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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI Tape Backup and other frills
Date: 30 Jun 1993 22:26:14 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Distribution: world
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I'm looking for information on Tape drives (DAT prefered/8mm) and
controller combinations to use under NS/I. I'll be using a Gateway
with a local bus IDE for the hard disk. I've downloaded alot of
stuff from nextanswers, but I suspect most of the "validation" of
hardware/SCSI controllers had to do with hard drives and not tape units.
Any war/peace stories would be appreciated.
Also I'd be interested in comments about software for use with the same
gear under Dos/Win3.1. I'm not all that picky about the software for
Dos/Win 3.1 but I need to backup and partition some large disks and I do
not want to do it by floppy. Is there anything in the dos world that
would do physical/logical backups of SCSI disks (w/o consideration of
the actual os installed)?
BTW, is the Dos partition accessible while running Nextstep on a machine
configured for dual boot?
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
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From: bhill@physics.ucla.edu (Brian Hill)
Subject: More minor details on AppleCD 300 [Was Re: what kind of CD-ROM NS doesn't love]
In-Reply-To: t90yuan@mp.cs.niu.edu's message of Wed, 30 Jun 1993 05:49:38 GMT
Message-ID: <BHILL.93Jun30140015@spike.physics.ucla.edu>
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References: <1993Jun30.054938.21188@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Date: 30 Jun 93 14:00:15
Having purchased an AppleCD 300 for a NeXTStation Color largely on the basis
of advice from this newsgroup, I would like to follow up with a couple of
minor observations, the conclusion of which is that I am so far quite
satisfied with this choice.
(1) My total cost was $460, including the SCSI cable to connect the NeXT
to the first SCSI device ($35), the terminator ($10), and tax ($30)
and shipping for the cables ($5).
(2) The drive comes with a clear vinyl storage case holding several
demonstration CD-ROM discs, most of which are useless for NeXT-owners.
(3) There is a warning in the documentation that some multimedia
disks may play back jerkily with a double-speed player, since they have
been created with assumptions about the length of delays that a slower-speed
player would have. There is Macintosh software included for switching the
player between double-speed and slower-speed. One exchange recently said:
>> My only concern is that after playing an
>> audio CD I believe the drive switched to the slower rotational speed and
>> I don't have a way to switch it back (I doubt it is automatic and the docs
>> don't mention it).
> I believe it is. It may even switch while reading diffrenet files on the
> same disk. Not sure 'bout that. At least, it should switch to double
> with non-audio disks, since it can recognize them.
Whether or not the switching is done automatically (I can't add anything on
that point), the warning in the documentation suggests that software for
doing the switching may be useful.
(4) When my player was paused on a music CD, through the headphones I
heard a quiet tick-tick-tick-tick which, if you are familiar with a
CD's normal rotational rate, has about that period. I contacted
other people who had posted their AppleCD 300 experiences and one of them
had noticed the same thing. I have now discovered that the ticking
noise is only heard when the hardware volume setting is near its maximum value.
If I turn the hardware volume setting down some, and compensate by turning
the software volume setting up, I can get all the volume I want in my
headphones, but avoid hearing the ticking noise when the drive is paused.
There is no analagous ticking noise in the only original NeXT CD-ROM drive
I have access to.
(5) As most other posters have said, the player is plug-and-play. I did
a rebuild of my hard disk during an NS 3.1 User install and it went
exactly as the installation directions said. The rebuild/installation
time was 50 minutes. As the directions for a non-Turbo machine said, the
boot floppy supplied with NS 3.1 User was necessary. --Brian Hill
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From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org
Subject: Re: e-mail of Intel
Message-ID: <1993Jun30.101446.5639@metasoft.fdn.org>
Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org
Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France.
References: <C9DH5s.E42@percy.rain.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1993 10:14:46 GMT
In article <C9DH5s.E42@percy.rain.com> billc@iceCuBE.rain.com (William J.
Coldwell) writes:
> In article <1993Jun24.080923.2340@metasoft.fdn.org>
> Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org writes:
> > I'm looking for an e-mail address of a technical staff guy
> > from Intel US, who knows one ?
>
> Sure you want Intel US, and not Intel England? Which product you need
> support on would help me point you in the right direction.
I was looking for C++ compilers for Intel i960, I found the Microtec
Research s one, is there any other ?
Thanks,
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Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax: (+33) 99 35 00 45
Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [NeXTmail welcome]
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From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Another TSENG LABS ET-4000 question.
Date: 30 Jun 1993 22:16:45 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20t3cdINNot@clem.handheld.com>
References: <1993Jun30.005440.15967@rchland.ibm.com>
In article <1993Jun30.005440.15967@rchland.ibm.com> tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
(Tom Gall) writes:
> In article <20qcr5INNpjl@clem.handheld.com>, jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De
Arras) writes:
> |> I located a second TS-4000 based card, and installed it, and configured
NSFIP
> |> to use it in 1024x768 mode. I get EXACTLY the same results as my other,
older,
> |> card, which is a video output at about 1/2 the correct horz and vert
rates.
> |> Too slow for the monitor to sync up on. The image is all there, and
correct, I
> |> can even operate the next if I can figure out which of the vertically
wrapped
> |> image sections the mouse is really in.
> |>
> |> Anyone have a similiar problem? Any solutions or advice? I have a 17"
monitor
> |> for this task, and using the standard VGA driver works, but makes
everything so
> |> HUGE!
> |>
> |> Jim
> |>
> |> --
> |> jmd@handheld.com
>
>
> Hmmm this is just speculation, but wouldn't a multi-sync monitor help? Or
is that Multi-scan? (I tend to mix the two up sometimes)
>
> As I remember those kinds of monitors adjust themselves to the incoming
signal over a wider range of signals.
>
I'm using a multi-sync. It's just that 30 hz vert is too slow, even if the
monitor would sync, the flicker would have you screaming and running out of the
room in minutes!
> Tom
>
>
> --
> tgall@rchvmw2.vnet.ibm.com (work -- NeXTMail NOT ok)
> gypsy!servo@csn.org (home -- NeXTMail ok)
> _________________________________________________________________________
> |o|Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed |o|
> |o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o|
> |o|Performance Tools III -- The Martian ____ |o|
> |o|006-2 / B209 /\___\ |o|
> |o|IBM Rochester 3-4558 #include<std.disclaimer.h> \/___/ |o|
Jim
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From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXTSTEP on AST?
Date: 30 Jun 1993 23:08:41 GMT
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Jul1010841@dannug.dannug.dk>
Hi.
I'm posting this on behalf of Geert Clemmensen, so please reply by
mail to the below address:
Anyone that has tried to install NEXTSTEP on an AST Premmia 4/66D? If yes, are there any pitfalls? If I install 2 MB VRAM, will I then be able to run 1024x768/4096 (the hw comp. guide only lists 1 MB VRAM which will give 800x600/4096)?
Anynone with availability info on the promised driver update disk (which seems to be required for the AST Premmia)?
Please reply to: gclem@dannug.dk
Thx.
Geert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: che@media.mit.edu (Natalio C. Pincever)
Subject: Faxmail on 486
Message-ID: <1993Jul1.150320.5918@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 15:03:20 GMT
I'm not sure which newsgroup is the right one, but...
I need to know ASAP if NeXTstep 486 still supports faxmail: you remember, it
was possible to fax ANYTHING on those wonderfull black pieces of
hardware. I'm making a recommendation on faxmail tomorrow, and need
this vital piece of information. Anything to spread the gospel...
Natalio Pincever, a NeRD in exile
PS: PLease reply via email, as I cannot read news too often...
From: brian@systemix.com (Brian Cuthie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI Tape Backup and other frills
Date: 1 Jul 1993 11:51:00 -0400
Organization: Systemix Software, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20v154INN4v5@systemix.com>
References: <20t3u6$1r8@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <20t3u6$1r8@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
>
> I'm looking for information on Tape drives (DAT prefered/8mm) and
>controller combinations to use under NS/I. I'll be using a Gateway
Rumor has it that you should use the Adaptec controller since there are
problems using the DPT with the current NS/FIP SCSI Tape driver.
As far as DAT drives go, the Exabyte 4200c available from Peripheral
Solutions (1800ALLDISK) is right around a killo-buck and holds in excess of
4 Gig per tape.
> Also I'd be interested in comments about software for use with the same
>gear under Dos/Win3.1. I'm not all that picky about the software for
>Dos/Win 3.1 but I need to backup and partition some large disks and I do
>not want to do it by floppy. Is there anything in the dos world that
>would do physical/logical backups of SCSI disks (w/o consideration of
>the actual os installed)?
From UNIX anyway, you could just dd the stuff from your hard disk to tape. You
can't get individual files back. You can't swap a different disk in. But, if
all you want is an image of your disk (not a bad idea) then this will work
just fine.
What's probably more useful is to have daily backups that allow you to recover
individual files or directories. Try the SafetyNet demo on the archives, it
may well do what you want.
> BTW, is the Dos partition accessible while running Nextstep on a machine
>configured for dual boot?
Sure.
Brian
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cdaggett@pac-man.arcade.uiowa.edu (Cheyne Daggett)
Subject: Tandberg 3600 work with NS/I
Message-ID: <1993Jul1.163012.14739@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Sender: news@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (News)
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 16:30:12 GMT
I just purchased a Tandberg 3600 SCSI Tape Drive and was wondering if it
will work with NS/I when I switch over to NS/I. I have a IBM VP 433DX/T
with a Adaptec 1542c SCSI card. Also whitch software should I use for
tape backups. Thanks.
Cheyne B. Daggett
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: t90yuan@mp.cs.niu.edu (yuan tzeng)
Subject: Wanted: ET4000 card
Message-ID: <1993Jul1.172045.30803@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 17:20:45 GMT
If you happen to have this card and don't use it, just tell me with
the $ you want :-) Thanks. --yuan
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[Tzeng Ruey Yuan] --yuan
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Drivers Updates Via NeXTanswers
Date: 1 Jul 1993 18:19:05 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <20v9qp$ml@fermat.mayo.edu>
Keywords: NeXT driver updates Nextanswers wingine epson
hey hey!
NeXT is supplying driver updates via NeXTanswers!
Obviously this is a good thing for those of use waiting for
functionality updates (We are hoping for a bug-fix for the Intel
ethernet driver any day now!). Hopefully NeXT will do the same
thing for things like layered software as well (SimpleNetworkStarter for one,
since it got _bashed_ in PCweeks eval of NS3.1/FIP).
(from 1001_Master_Index)
* Drivers 93-06-30
* EpsonWingineDriver.18502.1 93-06-30
1212 EpsonWingineDriver.pkg 93-06-30
1211 EpsonWingineDriver.ReadMe 93-06-30
First lines of the ReadMe...
[...]
Installing Update 1 of the Epson Wingine Graphics Adapter Device Driver for
NEXTSTEP Release 3.1 for Intel Processors
These instructions show you how to install the updated device driver for the
Epson Wingine graphics adapter on an Intel-based computer running NEXTSTEP
Release 3.1. The driver lets you take advantage of the 1120 x 832 display mode
supported by the Epson Wingine graphics adapter. The driver is distributed in
an Installer package file named EpsonWingineDriver.pkg.
--
- Geoff
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Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
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From: dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu (Doug Boyce)
Subject: Re: Another TSENG LABS ET-4000 question.
Message-ID: <C9I39C.7LJ@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
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References: <1993Jun30.005440.15967@rchland.ibm.com> <20t3cdINNot@clem.handheld.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 19:24:47 GMT
In article <20t3cdINNot@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes:
>
>I'm using a multi-sync. It's just that 30 hz vert is too slow, even if the
>monitor would sync, the flicker would have you screaming and running out of the
>room in minutes!
>
>Jim
>--
>jmd@handheld.com
Since loading 3.1 actual we tested a ET4000 VL-bus and a Cirrus 8426. The
ET4000 worked flawlessly (with a 15" CTX). The Cirrus had a lot of crap on
the screen. I'm going do some more jumper testing before I send in a bug
report.
--
Doug Boyce dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: saki@obelix (Stephane Ah-ki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Diamond Motherboard
Message-ID: <1993Jul1.170155.513@logibec.com>
Date: 1 Jul 93 17:01:55 GMT
Sender: news@logibec.com
Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Ltee, QC, Canada
Does anyone know Diamond FastBus ISA/VL-Bus motherdoard ?
It is very fast NU SI -> 157 vs 143 for almost 486/66
Does it works with NEXTSTEP 486 ?
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From: tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tony Maas)
Subject: RAM company suggestions
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul01.213931.14073@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1993 21:39:31 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
Can anyone give me some 800 numbers for companies with
decent prices on RAM? The best I've found so far is
for $127.50 per 4 meg SIMM(for a NeXTstation mono).
Thanks.
Tony Maas
tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
IBM Rochester, MN
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From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: Diamond Motherboard
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul02.001125.32279@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1993 00:11:25 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1993Jul1.170155.513@logibec.com>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <1993Jul1.170155.513@logibec.com>, saki@obelix (Stephane Ah-ki) writes:
|>
|> Does anyone know Diamond FastBus ISA/VL-Bus motherdoard ?
|> It is very fast NU SI -> 157 vs 143 for almost 486/66
|> Does it works with NEXTSTEP 486 ?
No this motherboard DOES NOT WORK. I have test installed on it and it failed. However this is hope. (See below) It got rather far into the installation which rather surprised me. (And bumed me out at the same time, being able to vary the speed of the motherboard from 33-38 Mhz was rather a nice idea!)
Anyway, the installation got to the point where it was asking which Hard disk to put NeXTSTEP on, asking for the language and basically died at the point where it partitions the drive just before pulling over the base OS.
My setup was a 486-66, with most everything turned off (caching, copyback etc), a 1542B adaptec SCSI card, an NEC CD-ROM drive and a 300 Meg SCSI hard disk.
NeXTSTEP complained something about could fdisk the drive, (which is weird because I'd installed NS/FIP before, and used this drive as a second drive) and as I remember one of the errors it popped out was something about IDE.
Hope:
Now the Diamond motherboard has IDE ON the motherboard. So it is possible that NeXTSTEP/FIP might install to an IDE harddisk. I DID NOT TRY THIS, so it might work.
Best of luck,
Tom
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_________________________________________________________________________
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|o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o|
|o|Performance Tools III -- The Martian ____ |o|
|o|006-2 / B209 /\___\ |o|
|o|IBM Rochester 3-4558 #include<std.disclaimer.h> \/___/ |o|
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Another TSENG LABS ET-4000 question.
Date: 2 Jul 1993 03:16:36 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2109akINN48c@clem.handheld.com>
References: <C9I39C.7LJ@acsu.buffalo.edu>
In article <C9I39C.7LJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu (Doug Boyce)
writes:
> In article <20t3cdINNot@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De
Arras) writes:
> >
> >I'm using a multi-sync. It's just that 30 hz vert is too slow, even if the
> >monitor would sync, the flicker would have you screaming and running out of
the
> >room in minutes!
> >
> >Jim
> >--
> >jmd@handheld.com
>
> Since loading 3.1 actual we tested a ET4000 VL-bus and a Cirrus 8426. The
> ET4000 worked flawlessly (with a 15" CTX). The Cirrus had a lot of crap on
> the screen. I'm going do some more jumper testing before I send in a bug
> report.
>
I tried two Cirrus boards, too, and both had "crap" in the display, I could
make out the image, but it was very noisy, like TV snow, except frozen! The
mouse left a trail, too!
That image was also out of sync spec. If anyone has a working ET4000, and a
scope, could you please measure the horz, and vert sync pulse rates?
The seller swears my monitor is non-interlaced 1024/768-ready. I get a damn
big, clear, image in Windows 3.1, even in the 1xxx by 1024 image size using
that board and monitor.
>
> --
> Doug Boyce dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu
Jim
--
jmd@handheld.com
From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.org>
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardwaee
Subject: Re: Maximum capacity of a CD-ROM
Message-ID: <930701.182148.4p3.rusnews.w165w@knex.via.mind.org>
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1993 18:21:48 EST
References: <C95CpM.E85@news.otago.ac.nz>
Organization: |<><>| Knowledge Exchange, GA, USA |<><>|
alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) writes:
>
> Hi Netters,
> For the project I am currently working on, we intend to distribute an
> image/video/audio database on CD-ROM. I was wondering what the limit
> of capicity of a CD-ROM is. I have never seen one with more than
> around 600MB, is this the limit? Or can one fit more? We really need
> to be able to fit around 1.2GB, can we do this without using two CDs?
>
The maximum capacity for CD-Rom is 74 minutes . This translates to
roughly 650MB. Yes, you should be able to store 1.2GB in two CDs.
GeSS
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CDPub List Admin. |<><>| {rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!uumind!knex!gess |<><>|
What is a CDRom? |<><>| 3 billion pits arranged in a 3 mile spiral! |<><>|
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From: bbrown@solana.com
Subject: Intel Machines: Benchmarks? Comparisons?
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Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 07:22:54 GMT
Message-ID: <bbrown.93Jul272254@ganesha>
Hi,
I need an Intel box that runs NS/FIP. I will buy a new machine
from one of the vendors which certifies their machines as
NS/FIP-safe. But, I need information that allows me to
compare and contrast the machines. So, I have some questions.
Is there any standard windowing benchmark for NS/FIP?
Does anyone have benchmark information for some of the
Intel machines which support NS/FIP?
Does anyone know if NEXTWORLD mag plans to do detailed
hardware reviews/comparisons?
Any annecdotal evidence w.r.t. performance would be appreciated
for the current list of vendors that support NS/FIP. I am
looking for a machine which will allow me to do NS
development, so portables and low power machines are
not interesting to me.
Thanks for your help.
Bill Brown
bbrown@solana.com.
From: zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel Machines: Benchmarks? Comparisons?
Date: 2 Jul 1993 12:31:03 GMT
Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <bbrown.93Jul272254@ganesha>
In article <bbrown.93Jul272254@ganesha> bbrown@solana.com writes:
>Hi,
> I need an Intel box that runs NS/FIP. I will buy a new machine
> from one of the vendors which certifies their machines as
> NS/FIP-safe. But, I need information that allows me to
> compare and contrast the machines. So, I have some questions.
>
> Is there any standard windowing benchmark for NS/FIP?
Try NXBench, available via ano-ftp.
> Does anyone have benchmark information for some of the
> Intel machines which support NS/FIP?
NX Bench reports on my machine (DX/2 66 with ATI GUP VLB):
Dhrystones:
ColorStation ca. 26000
DX/2 ca. 62000
NX Factor (graphics performance):
Station 1.0
ColorStation 0.6
DX/2 ATI GUP VLB 0.6
JAWS or Wingine graphic adapters should smoke the ATI.
Regards, Markus.
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From: nwc (Nick Christopher)
Subject: Re: Laptops
Message-ID: <C9JGq0.72s@ny.shl.com>
Sender: usenet@ny.shl.com (Net News)
Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc.
References: <1993Jun24.153252.11242@altsys.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 13:13:12 GMT
> I have the HW Compatability
> Guide, but I have it on good authority that the Compaq LTE Lite 4/25C
> is the way to go...
>
I am having problems with the Compaq LTE Lite 4/25e (the mono version). Only
an external keyboard works!?
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Intel Machines: Benchmarks? Comparisons? (Test results)
Date: 2 Jul 1993 13:49:28 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <211ed8$6am@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
In article <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei
R.Rabenseifner)) writes:
#In article <bbrown.93Jul272254@ganesha> bbrown@solana.com writes:
#>Hi,
#> I need an Intel box that runs NS/FIP. I will buy a new machine
#> from one of the vendors which certifies their machines as
#> NS/FIP-safe. But, I need information that allows me to
#> compare and contrast the machines. So, I have some questions.
#>
#> Is there any standard windowing benchmark for NS/FIP?
#Try NXBench, available via ano-ftp.
#
#> Does anyone have benchmark information for some of the
#> Intel machines which support NS/FIP?
#
#NX Bench reports on my machine (DX/2 66 with ATI GUP VLB):
#
#Dhrystones:
# ColorStation ca. 26000
# DX/2 ca. 62000
#
#NX Factor (graphics performance):
# Station 1.0
# ColorStation 0.6
# DX/2 ATI GUP VLB 0.6
#
#JAWS or Wingine graphic adapters should smoke the ATI.
#
Our ATI Ultra Pro cards had and NXFactor of .81 and .82 respectively...
Yeah they *should* but they don't in reality. The ATI Ultra Pro was the
second fasted graphics card we tested. We conducted benchmark tests on the
following systems (with the help of Wiltel of Houston):
Gateway2000 4DX2-66V with ATI Ultra Pro VLB card (66Mhz)
Compaq with QVision (66Mhz)
Dell DGX with Jaws (50Mhz)
Epson Progression with Wingine (50Mhz)
Ecesys with Wingine (66Mhz)
NeXTStation Mono (25Mhz)
NeXTStation Color (25Mhz)
The results are rather suprising. We used two benchmark programs:
BenchPress 1.0
NXBench2.0
Our results are in a PostScript file and can be found at:
uhoop.uh.edu:/pub/misc/BenchMarks.compressed
or via gopher:
gopher.uh.edu -> Engineering Gopher -> UHOOP Archive -> misc ->
BenchMarks.compressed
#/dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart
#/usr/spool/mail wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de
#~/.ircrc/nick Marsu
#/etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Intel - Come on and join!
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rcs002@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Intel Machines: Benchmarks? Comparisons? (Test results)
Message-ID: <1993Jul2.095510.1@acad.drake.edu>
Sender: news@dunix.drake.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
References: <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> <211ed8$6am@menudo.uh.edu>
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1993 15:55:10 GMT
In article <211ed8$6am@menudo.uh.edu>, sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:
> In article <2119q7$pqb@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
> zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei
> R.Rabenseifner)) writes:
> #In article <bbrown.93Jul272254@ganesha> bbrown@solana.com writes:
> #>
> #> [munch]
> #>
> Our ATI Ultra Pro cards had and NXFactor of .81 and .82 respectively...
>
> Yeah they *should* but they don't in reality. The ATI Ultra Pro was the
> second fasted graphics card we tested. We conducted benchmark tests on the
> following systems (with the help of Wiltel of Houston):
>
> Gateway2000 4DX2-66V with ATI Ultra Pro VLB card (66Mhz)
> Compaq with QVision (66Mhz)
> Dell DGX with Jaws (50Mhz)
> Epson Progression with Wingine (50Mhz)
> Ecesys with Wingine (66Mhz)
> NeXTStation Mono (25Mhz)
> NeXTStation Color (25Mhz)
>
> The results are rather suprising. We used two benchmark programs:
>
> BenchPress 1.0
> NXBench2.0
>
> Our results are in a PostScript file and can be found at:
>
> uhoop.uh.edu:/pub/misc/BenchMarks.compressed
>
> or via gopher:
>
> gopher.uh.edu -> Engineering Gopher -> UHOOP Archive -> misc ->
> BenchMarks.compressed
>
Many of us who would like NS/I, but we don't currently have
ability to display, or print a postscript file.
If someone could take a few minutes and summarize the results, or
even better type the document in, many of us would greatly appreciate
it.
Thanks
> #/dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart
> #/usr/spool/mail wenzel@rus.uni-stuttgart.de
> #~/.ircrc/nick Marsu
> #/etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Intel - Come on and join!
>
> --
> Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
> The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
> Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
> NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
> >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
> "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Robert C. Stiff
rcs002@acad.drake.edu
From: mmlee@athena.mit.edu (Mark M Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help with NeXT
Date: 2 Jul 1993 17:26:34 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <211r4a$gca@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Just stepped into the NeXT world by purchasing an used NeXTstation
Color with 16/250. I have two questions/problems with my
system....
1. I tried to hook up an ext. NEC CD (CDR-74) to the NeXTstation,
but the system doesn't seem to recognize it & refuses to boot up.
I am running NS 3.0 & the CD drive is multi-spin.....
2. Is there NS for alpha? Will there be one?
3. I borrowed an NeXT CD ROM drive from a friend, and I tried to run
the CD Player app. I followed the instruction to setup my system;
however, I don't hear any music coming out.....
Thanx for your help...
-mark
mmlee@athena.mit.edu
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: [rtf] BUG FIX: Gateway2000 incompatability fix for model 4DX2-66V
Date: 2 Jul 1993 23:45:10 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <212ha6$pn1@menudo.uh.edu>
Enclosed is a PostScript file that explains the simple fix that will
solve the keyboard/mouse problems with NEXTSTEP and the Gateway2000
4DX2-66V. This fix involves setting a jumper on the system board.
This fix has been tested and confirmed.
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: BUG FIX: Gateway2000 incompatability fix for model 4DX2-66V
Date: 2 Jul 1993 23:45:26 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <212ham$pps@menudo.uh.edu>
(The rtf version includes a PostScript document that has a diagram of the
location jumper that needs to be changed)
Gateway2000 4DX2-66V Fix
This the "official" fix from Gateway2000 concerning the problem with
installing and running NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors version 3.1. The cause
of the problem was that the PS2Mouse driver and the PS2Keyboard driver would
not work with the newer versions of the BIOS that Micronics started shipping
with a revised system board. Mainly it concerned the new Gateway ROM BIOS
PLUS Version 0.10 GJX30-05E (but it also works for the earlier GJX30
versions).
For NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors Release 3.1 to install correctly, the new
Gateways V-Series systems must have the PS2 style keyboard jumper ENABLED.
This jumper is not documented in the Gateway2000 Manuals as the PS2 style
keyboard jumper, instead it is listed as W7 - "Reserved".
Gateway ships these systems with the jumper disabled, and usually recommends
leaving the jumper disabled for use with system and keyboard drivers.
However, ou must change the W7 jumper to the "on" position (you will need to
find a jumper to use or locate a spare one). The W7 jumper is located right
next to the W40 jumper on the motherboard. See the diagram below.
Micronics (Motherboard OEM for Gateway) is currently running NEXTSTEP on a
new Gateway with the W7 jumper changed. This setup has worked with both
serial and bus mice.
NeXT's Quality Assurance group is testing this fix now.
[This has been tested and verified at the University of Houston with the
GJX30-01D verion of the BIOS.]
**** The PS2Mouse driver must be loaded for this to work. If [and only
if!!] you followed my earlier installation notes, you were told to remove
the PS2Mouse driver from the file
/usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table
which was in the line "Boot Drivers". A simple way to do this is to run
the
Configure.app
located in /NextApps and click on "save". The configure.app will
automatically add the PS2Mouse driver to the Instance0.table file.
Powerdown, then add the jumper and reboot. No need to mess with the turbo
switch or anything, it should come up in NEXTSTEP automatically. To quickly
verify if your keyboard will work, check if the NUM-Lock LED is off. If it
is not, then your keyboard WILL NOT work.
The W7 jumper is located next to the first LocalBus slot near the right-back
end of the system board. This diagram is for the Desktop configuration
only. The jumper may be located in a different location if you have a
tower case.
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Disk mirroring and multiprocessor support.
Message-ID: <1993Jul3.023209.4506@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <SCOTT.93Jul2151303@nic.gac.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 02:32:09 GMT
In article <SCOTT.93Jul2151303@nic.gac.edu> scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
writes:
> [2] As for disk mirroring, this is a REAL CURRENT request.
> As you may know, nearly every large NOVELL site now supports
> some type of disk mirroring schema. What would be required
> of a NEXTSTEP machine to support disk mirroring? Does
> anyone know of any other sites contemplating this and how
> it is being addressed?
There is no need for the OS to support it: spec out an independent,
standalone RAID unit. I saw one at PC Expo yesterday that supported the
full RAID-5 spec: I pulled out one of the five running disks myself, and
it kept on working! The unit had two power supplies as well. Both disks
and power supplies could be hot-swapped!
To NEXTSTEP, it will just look like a fast and wide SCSI-2 device.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: chrisl@mindvox.phantom.com (Chris Lesher)
Subject: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Message-ID: <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Sender: mindvox@mindvox.phantom.com (MindVox)
Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 07:18:32 GMT
Having spent more hours than I care to count exposed to the Windows
environment at work, and through an extended patronage of MindVox which
seems to be something of a NeXT mecca full of converts and true believers,
when the time came for me to purchase a new machine this fall for in-house
evaluation and future planning, I was quite excited by the prospects of
NeXTSTEP technology.
After arranging to view some of the NeXT's at Vox I came away with
a strange feeling that perhaps I should have listened to. I was stunned
by the user environment and in an office full of machinery the only only
ones that seemed to have any active use as workstations were two NeXT's,
and a Super NES ;-). But for the life of me, other than the obvious
observation that a lot of people smoke pot in a closed room, I was unable
to figure out what anybody there used the NeXT's for other than $10,000
paper weights which served as terminals to be hooked through an ethernet
to the servers, all of which were dull, dreary, with the monitors turned
off, but every single machine was some kind of Sun. In fact MindVox which
started on the NeXT had moved away from using them for anything except
fancy terminals as quickly as they could.
But no..... I listened to the advice of the people hanging around,
read and re-read the evangelists postings and sunk nearly $10,000 of my
company's money into a NeXTSTEP eval machine from Dell.
And what I now proudly possess is my very own $10,000 paperweight.
I plug it into the ethernet, RDP exception #6, the machine hangs every
time within a matter of hours. I plug in a modem, guess what, oh SORRY,
the serial port drivers have a few problems. I NEEDED A MACHINE THAT CAN
COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER MACHINES. A STAND-ALONE SYSTEM IS NEARLY WORTHLESS
TO ME AND RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE, BECAUSE ANY TIME I TRY TO PLUG IT
INTO A NETWORK OR CONNECT A MODEM, IT HANGS. *EVERY SINGLE TIME* To
suggest that the solution is waiting for NS3.2 to arrive in the 3rd
quarter, or 4th quarter, or whenever it gets here, is absolutely
preposterous. I have paid for something which does NOT work. For all its
garbage, Windows DOES work and rarely crashes and right now I'm using a
486dx/33 to get my work done, while I look at the NeXT and realize what I
should have known in the first place. The NeXT is a beautiful
paper-weight, which is championed by the sort of people who have SGI
Indigo^2's sitting in their houses because "they're so cool man", have
wardrobes from Armani, cars from Porsche, and make a living selling ATTITUDE.
In a word, that's the NeXT, because it certainly doesn't do
anything like FUNCTION as expected. When I brought these problems back to
the true believers I came away with the tremendous wisdom of "well, I
dunno, right now I just use kermit on the SGI or tip out" followed by
"NeXTSTEP is pretty to look at, but ya know, its like whatever, the Apple
][+ pretty much did everything I wanted a computer to do. It had a
terminal program called AE pro, and a word processor. Everything else are
neat toys to play with."
BINGO. So now I'm using Windows. And looking at OS/2.
NeXT, this is RIDICULOUS. Kindly assign one or two persons to
take the 3 hours needed to fix your serial port and ethernet drivers and
allow those of us who have invested into what you and your evangelists are
espousing, to at least make use of what we have purchased. There is no
way I could ever recommend NeXTSTEP to our purchasing department, I have
this sinking feeling I'd be left holding the bag, a feeling many people
who purchased black hardware in 1993 must be very familiar with.
chrisl@phantom.com
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/I Installation Problem: Gateway with MCM2 BIOS
Date: 3 Jul 1993 10:45:20 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <213o00$sq9@agate.berkeley.edu>
I'm having my own problems trying to install NS/I on a Gateway 4DX2-66V, but
unlike Paul Sears, my Gateway is the slightly older version (from February) with
the Micronics MCM2 BIOS chip set. NEXTSTEP doesn't recognize my Microsoft
serial mouse; I get the message
PC Pointer probe: mouseInit failure
and, later,
Using Default table for SerialMouse
SerialMouse: not attached
I get as far as the Select Your Computer box, but at that point there's no mouse
pointer (I'm assuming you use the mouse to select your computer) and no response
from the keyboard.
The mouse is attached to the only connector it will go on (labeled COM3). In
the BIOS setup, I've tried both the settings described in NeXTanswers:
On Board COMA: Disabled
COMA-IRQ: Disabled
and the settings suggested in the 3.1 installation guide for the "first serial
port" where a serial mouse is supposed to be attached:
On Board COMA: COM1
COMA-IRQ: IRQ 4
I didn't find a way to set this port to port 0x3f8 (as instructed in
the installation guide) in the BIOS setup (is there a way?), but I went
ahead and made the change in Windows (ridiculous, I'm sure, because
this change needs to be part of the permanent system configuration, right?).
To head off conflicts, I changed the switches on the Telepath internal modem
(the former COM1) to make it COM2 and use IRQ 3 and, when that didn't work, I
yanked out the modem and the Ethernet board to try to narrow things down.
Has anyone else solved a similar problem? The hardware I'm using is
Gateway 4DX2-66V with 16MB of RAM and Phoenix 80486 ROM BIOS PLUS Version 0.10
GLB01
Adaptec 1542B with latest BIOS; terminator removed; BIOS enabled
Maxtor MXT1240S hard drive with an active terminator
Apple CD SC CD-ROM drive, also with an active terminator
Thanks very much for your help!
Mitch Gass
mitch@mills.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: george@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (George Fankhauser)
Subject: Re: Intel Machines: Benchmarks? Comparisons? (Test results)
Message-ID: <C9L3C7.3Gr@bernina.ethz.ch>
Keywords: NEXTSTEP, Benchmarks, NXBench
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zurich, Switzerland
References: <1993Jul2.095510.1@acad.drake.edu> <212jjb$scp@menudo.uh.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 10:19:18 GMT
here are all the results that I received since I uploaded NXBench 2.0. it
includes intersting results as the from original cube and some very fast PCs
in gray scale mode.
Machine CPU/Speed/Cache Grafics Dhrystones NXFactor Submitted by
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
NeXT Station Turbo MC68040/33 NeXT 2-bit Mono 35335 1.4956 jon@savant.com (Jon C. Buffington)
NeXT Station Turbo MC68040/33 NeXT 2-bit Mono 34722 1.4265 Steven Fosdal <fosdal@phys-next1.physics.wisc.edu>
NeXT Station Turbo MC68040/33 NeXT 2-bit Mono 34924 1.3377 springs@wings.dartmouth.edu (David Fisher)
Compaq Deskpro 66m i486/66/64k 8-bit Mono (1280x1024x8) 63965 1.12 NWX93
NeXT Cube MC68040/25 NeXT 2-bit Mono 24732 1.0 george@uptime.ch
DECpc 466 d2 MTE i486/66/128 S3 805 (1024x768x8) (grayscale) 63291 0.963 David_LaVallee@NeXT.COM (David LaVallee)
DELL 450DE/2 i486/50/? DELL JAWS (1120x832x16) 44510 0.901 stephane_ahki@logibec.com
DELL 450DE/2 i486/50/? DELL JAWS (1120x832x16) 44052 0.8618 Rizzotti.Sven@ch.swissbank.com
DELL 466/ME i486/66/64k S3 VGA Onboard (1024x768x8) 54844 0.8344 Urs Gubser <gc4@ubszh.net.ch>
NeXT Turbo Cube, NextDimnesion MC68040/33 NeXT Dimension (32-bit Color), Run on ND screen which is set as primary 35169 0.8324 L J "Jim" Kiraly <jim@ljkiraly.lerc.nasa.gov>
Intel GX professional i486/66/64k ATI Ultra Pro (Onboard 1024x768x16) 59405 0.8112 george@uptime.ch
Compaq Deskpro 5/60 pentium/60/? ATI Ultra Pro (EISA 1024x768x16) 82872 0.81 NWX93
Gateway 4DX2-66V i486/66/256K ATI Ultra Pro VL-BUS (1024x768x16) 56710 0.7918 Cory Jones <jonesc@zippy.CS.ORST.EDU>
Intel GX professional i486/66/64k ATI Ultra Pro (Onboard 1024x768x16) 57581 0.7879 me@oceania.com
NeXTStation Turbo Color MC68040/33 NeXT 16-bit Color 35377 0.7852 Rizzotti.Sven@ch.swissbank.com
Intel GX Professional i486/66/64k ATI Ultra Pro (Onboard 1024x768x16) 57361 0.7767 fabien@free.fr (Fabien Roy)
Compaq Deskpro 66M i486/66/64K QVision 1024E (800x600x16) 64516 0.7052 emo@steve.mitre.org (E. Michael O'Neill)
AcerPower 466de i486/66/256k ATI Ultra Pro VESA (1024x768x16) 61728 0.6962 Michele Giardini <michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Compaq Deskpro 66M i486/66/64K QVision 1024E (800x600x16) 63559 0.6829 J. D. Smith <jdsmith@jdsmith.npd.provo.novell.com>
Gateway 2000 i486/66/256K ATI Ultra Pro VL-BUS (1024x768x16) 55350 0.6694 dadler@larry.pathology.washington.edu
Logisys 486 NX i486/66/? LGI Wingine (1024x768x16) 54844 0.6658 NWE demo account <demo@nwegate.nwe.andi.org>
NeXTStation Color MC68040/25 NeXT 16-bit Color 25884 0.5778 Jon H. Bohlke II <bohlke@radar.Rose-Hulman.Edu.>
DELL 466/ME i486/66/64k ATI Ultra Pro EISA (1024x768x16) 53097 0.5272 Steve Herndon <hern@locus.advtech.uswest.com>
Compaq Deskpro 66M i486/66/256k ATI Ultra Pro EISA (1024x768x16) 55555 0.4394 Alastair Thomson <alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz>
NeXT Cube '030 MC68030/25 2-bit Mono 5941 0.374 <ab@sonata.cc.purdue.edu>
NeXT Turbo Cube, NextDimnesion MC68040/33 2-bit Mono, RUN ON MONO SCREEN (SECONDARY SCREEN) 35169 0.3723 L J "Jim" Kiraly <jim@ljkiraly.lerc.nasa.gov>
DTK (no name clone) i486/50/32k ATI Ultra Pro EISA (1024x768x16) 37037 0.2495 Richard V. Nash <nash@poison.visus.com>
(use Edit to reformat it, it's tab-delimited)
George
From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Message-ID: <15745@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 3 Jul 93 13:21:31 GMT
References: <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
After my evangelizing here at the Library, we brought in an evaluation copy
of NS/FIP.
We tested it out and after several installation quirks, got it running.
However, it conks out after a period of a several hours on incoming IP
packets. Not good.
It is back in the box and on the shelf. Oh well, it was only $300.
NeXT dropped the ball putting this release out for general consumption.
It is UNUSABLE for network applications, the entire reason we are
evaluating new operating systems. Unixware is back on the machine.
C'est la NeXT!
--
** Casey Palowitch - cjp+@pitt.edu UWSA #570881 **
** Networked Information Services Group / Technical Services **
** U. of Pittsburgh Library Systems // NeXTSTEP... **
** ...the most respected piece of software on the planet BYTE10/92 **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nlaporte@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Nancy LaPorte)
Subject: Intresting questions
Organization: Florida State University ACNS
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 23:07:34 GMT
Message-ID: <C9M2wM.IFC@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
Hello all,
I have recently been asked a few questions about computers that got me to
thinking... And as I am usualy an Amiga user, I am more famular with my
machine, but I have heard about the abilities of the NeXT computer in this
arena, so...
Basicly, the idea is this... The ability to digatize audio signals and at
the same time, play other signals... At the same time. The sample rate on
both playing and digitizing should be a min of 20K. Also, direct-to-disk
digitizing and direct-from-disk playing should be emploied, as the samples
should be arround 5meg each...
Anyaway... Thanks fer the time...
- Ben
[posted by nlaporte@mailer.acns.fsu.edu for grimes@freenet.scri.fsu.edu as
he is my son and has no access to USENet directly. All responses via email
should be posted to him.]
--
**************************************************************************
"...it is folly not to extend the lessons of evolution and ecology to the
human and political realm. Life is not merely a murderous game in which
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Message-ID: <C9M0zt.K75@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <15745@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 22:26:16 GMT
In comp.sys.next.bugs article <15745@blue.cis.pitt.edu> you wrote:
> We tested it out and after several installation quirks, got it running.
>
> However, it conks out after a period of a several hours on incoming IP
> packets. Not good.
>
We haven't seen this... and we've beat up NS/Intel on an Epson Progression
NX, Intel Professional GX, Toshiba 6400C, and a Logisys (Lucky Goldstar).
We have also taken a look at many others. Matter of fact, at NeXTWORLD
Expo, we had a Logisys machine running as the *file server* for a twenty
machine network of mostly NS/FIP machines for three days (we used my
NeXTstation mono for the Internet SL/IP router 'cause of the serial port
driver fiasco however). However, we have only *heavily* used the Intel
EtherExpress card. One of the machines at our booth was a Dell DGX with
an SMC (used by DPT to show off thier SmartCache card), and it did not
have any problems running applications off the Logisys machine.
What kind of ethernet card did you have? What kind of machine? Are you
overspec on the ethernet?
I do agree that this release of NeXTSTEP/Intel is not for mass
consumption, and I hope NeXT makes good use of NeXTanswers to distribute
new/fixed drivers. Releasing the Epson driver is a good first step.
--
Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc.
VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group
Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
--
Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc.
VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group
Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Intel Machines: Benchmarks? Comparisons? (Test results)
Message-ID: <C9M1tq.KE3@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Sender: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <C9L3C7.3Gr@bernina.ethz.ch>
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 22:44:13 GMT
In article <C9L3C7.3Gr@bernina.ethz.ch> george@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch
(George Fankhauser) writes:
>
> here are all the results that I received since I uploaded NXBench 2.0.
> it includes intersting results as the from original cube and some very
> fast PCs in gray scale mode.
>
>
Please remove the Logisys entry from the table submitted by NWE demo
account <demo@nwegate.nwe.andi.org>. We (ANDI) had a direct Internet
connection at NeXTWORLD Expo, and somebody must have sent off the
benchmark results. Because of that, we cannot verify that it was a valid
benchmark run (matter of fact, it wasn't because the numbers are too low).
Most of the machines there were doing two or three things at once (ya
know, showing off).
Also, when compiling these benchmarks, please note what version of the OS
the test was run under. Just from NS 3.0 -> NS 3.1 on my NeXTstation
Mono, there was a 5% to 10% speed increase under NXBench. Also, drivers
make a huge impact, and some machines may have been tested under
pre-release software/drivers.
Thanks!
--
Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc.
VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group
Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
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Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: Intel Pro GX
Message-ID: <glenC9MA6J.ED4@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 01:44:42 GMT
I just purchased an Intel Pro GX and had a stupid question. It is suppose
to be the 486 DX2/66 model and was wondering is there suppose to be a
overdrive chip in the overdrive socket?????. When I run the EISA install
utility it says it is a 33mhz system and not 66 hmmmmm...
Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: andy@godel (Andrew Burday)
Subject: Re: Intel Pro GX
Message-ID: <1993Jul4.045618.25709@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <glenC9MA6J.ED4@netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 04:56:18 GMT
Steven Kornreich (glen@netcom.com) wrote:
: I just purchased an Intel Pro GX and had a stupid question. It is suppose
: to be the 486 DX2/66 model and was wondering is there suppose to be a
: overdrive chip in the overdrive socket?????. When I run the EISA install
: utility it says it is a 33mhz system and not 66 hmmmmm...
: Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Subject: NeXT memory
Message-ID: <1993Jul4.052521.12707@math.ucla.edu>
Sender: news@math.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 93 05:25:21 GMT
I have a general question about distributing memory
in the banks of a NeXT Cube 040 (25mhz). Can I get better
performance by rearranging, or will the gain (if
any) be nominal?
Current setup:
Slots 1-4 4 x 1 meg 100ns
Slots 5-8 4 x 1 meg 100ns
Slots 9-12 4 x 1 meg 80ns
Slots 13-16 4 x 4 meg 80ns
Thanks in advance.
From: matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Date: 4 Jul 1993 14:45:45 GMT
Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <216qep$gck@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <15745@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
I find all this talk about NeXTstep/Intel's unstability on the network rather
interesting. I suggest that everyone having said problems goes back and
checks their EISA or ISA config to make sure that the card is in there.
I've been using two NS/Intel machines on our network at work for months with
nary a problem. (Dell 450DE/2 with SMC Ethercard and a DEC PC with an Intel
EtherExpress).
It's still rather amusing that people are so quick to blame someone else for
such a catastrophic problem. I'm surprised that ANYONE would think NeXT
would release a product that couldn't use the network when they push the
machine as a CLIENT. The serial port issue is pretty lame, but I can see why
that isn't a high priority compared to some other issues.
------
Mike Matthews, matthewm@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted)
------
Ketterling's Law:
Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ijeff@hank.carleton.ca (Ian Jefferson)
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Message-ID: <ijeff.741799946@cunews>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <15745@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 15:32:26 GMT
Well my NS FIP is up and running fine on a very busy network. I've been
using it for a couple of weeks and just moved it into a new location.
I reboot it regulary to use the DOS partition.
jasper up 2 days, 31 mins, load average: 0.14, 0.16, 0.11
On the other hand I've also been using Windows on the same network and have
had to reboot every few minutes for one reason or another.
I suspect that the posters are experiencing genuine Intel PC hardware
nightmares. Check with NeXTANSWERS@next.com send help index as subject
and wait for a reply.
A couple of real gems:
Dell ME and ATI Card don't like each other.
Pro Audio board will crash your system. (had to remove mine from my Windows box)
IRQ 2 is unusable on some systems
What NeXT needs to have is a strong *competent* dealer channel
unfortunately although NS FIP "just works" the hardware "just doesn't
work" !
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From: bud@slip2.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jeff Fields)
Subject: Does NeXT still service or replace dim/blurry mono MegaPixels?
Sender: news@news.uiowa.edu (News)
Message-ID: <1993Jul4.191340.7865@news.uiowa.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 19:13:40 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Keywords: display, service, dim
I bought a NeXT Cube 040 about 17 months ago, and the monitor(one of the
older mono MegaPixels, serial # AAA5001131, made Oct. 1988) is getting
very blurry and dim. I have heard that NeXT will replace or fix these old
monitors, since they are apparently faulty. Could anyone verify for this
for me?
Jeff Fields
University of Iowa
jfields@chop.isca.uiowa.edu(use this address for replies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos)
Subject: Combi-boards ( EISA + VLB) Does they work with NS FIP 3.1?
Message-ID: <1993Jul4.170908.5082@marcon.ka.sub.org>
Sender: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos)
Organization: Marinos EDV - Consulting
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 17:09:08 GMT
Hi folks,
for my own PC I want to use an EISA + VLB motherboard to get maximum
performance. I've heard a lot about the MICRONICS EISA + VLB motherboard.
Now I have one question: DOES IT REALLY WORK ?
I tested another combi board and I had the problem that NS didn't recognize the
VLB ATI Ultra Pro. When running with an ATI Ultra Pro EISA version no problems
occured, but this was in PR2.
What BIOS version is needed to run the MOCRONICS combi board without problems?
Thank You for your help
Stathis
--
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Evstathios Marinos | Phone : +49 721 37 71 78
Gartenstr. 2 | Fax : +49 721 37 71 79
76133 Karlsruhe (GERMANY) | E-Mail: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org
From: fasano@nic.cerf.net (Christopher G. Fasano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: printers...
Date: 4 Jul 1993 21:33:24 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer
Message-ID: <217ib4$qj8@news.cerf.net>
Hello,
I have several questions about printers. First, is it possible to
use an Apple Imagewriter II on my Black Hardware? If so, where can
I find out how to do this...
Next question--is it possible to use one of the Cannon bubble jet
printers (BJ-XXX series) or HP bubble jet printers on my black
hardware...?
Please respond via email to fasnao@scarolina.cerfnet.com
Thanks!
Chris Fasano
fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com
Dept. of Chemistry and Physics
Francis Marion Univ.
Florence, SC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran)
Subject: Re: SCSI I/O error - trashed home directory(2)
Message-ID: <1993Jul3.163451.963@abulafia.in-berlin.de>
Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de
Organization: Volker Safran, Interprint, Berlin, Germany
References: <212ofiINN64s@clem.handheld.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1993 16:34:51 GMT
In article <212ofiINN64s@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim
De Arras) writes:
> In article <15513@blue.cis.pitt.edu> rcc@next1.math.pitt.edu (robert
cyphers)
> writes:
........
> > The server console log shows:
> >
> > Software Version 2.1 (Warp6.11)
> > Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 1
> > Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 2
> > Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 3
> > Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 4
> > Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 5
> > Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 6
> > Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 7
> > Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 8
> > Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1e8eb0H retry 9
> > d1 (2,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x13
> > SCSI Block in error = 2002608; Partition d F.S. sector 251144
.......
I want to add a - perhaps - similar problem to this one. I have an
external M2623SA hooked at my station and sometimes there is a "clack"
from the drive and my console window shows the following:
Target 2: HARDWARE ERROR; block 0H retry 1
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 1
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 2
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 3
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 4
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 5
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 6
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 7
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 8
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 9
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 10
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 11
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 12
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 13
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 14
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 15
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 16
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 17
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 18
Target 2: NOT READY; retry 19
sd1 (2,0): sense key:0x2 additional sense code:0x4
SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
This one repeated 2 or 3 times, after this everything seems OK. I have
tried out with different cable configurations, measured the voltage of
the power supply, it seemes ok to me (< 5%).
The drive is about 2 years old, sounds quite normal (besides this
"clack") and fsck finds nothing strange.
It seems to me, that the drive sometimes is just going down, due to a
scsi reset. But what can be the reason for this. Is it the drive,
termination, contacts or what?
Thanks for any tips, that can help me.
Volker
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: NeXT memory
Message-ID: <1993Jul4.232746.24237@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Jul4.052521.12707@math.ucla.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1993 23:27:46 GMT
In article <1993Jul4.052521.12707@math.ucla.edu> scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S.
Port) writes:
> I have a general question about distributing memory
> in the banks of a NeXT Cube 040 (25mhz). Can I get better
> performance by rearranging, or will the gain (if
> any) be nominal?
>
> Current setup:
>
> Slots 1-4 4 x 1 meg 100ns
> Slots 5-8 4 x 1 meg 100ns
> Slots 9-12 4 x 1 meg 80ns
> Slots 13-16 4 x 4 meg 80ns
No gain, as the SIMMs are accessed at 100 ns, so the 80 ns SIMMs
are read at the same speed as the 100 ns SIMMs.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS 3.1 installation system not recognizing CD-ROM (HELP!!!)
Date: 2 Jul 1993 17:30:42 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <211rc2$lbn@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
This is a pretty major problem, and I would really appreciate all the help
I can get.
We have been running the 3.1 beta release for a month or so on an intel
machine. We got the 3.1 final release package and attempted to install
it. I am getting some very wierd error messages, including something
about not being able to find the mouse, and then it fails to find the
CD-ROM and installation stops.
Has anyone had problems like these?
my system is as follows:
Intel GX/Professional Workstation
DPT EISA Bus SCSI Controller
SMC Elite 16 Combo Ethernet Controller
NEC SCSI CD-ROM Drive
Thanks for your answers!
My address is:
DAY@SATURN.AOML.ERL.GOV (Sorry no NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Boris <Boris@Dylan.demon.co.uk>
Subject: HELP! NEED HELP - WONT BOOT
Message-ID: <C9p945.wB@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk
Organization: BorMak Tech (Software consultants & Network Specialists)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 16:14:27 GMT
Hiya Folks,
I need YOUR help. We just got hold of a Next Cube but we can't get it
to work.(thats why it was given to us!)
As far as we know, the machine is basically okay inside, just we need the
boot disks!(simple enough)
The machine specs are as follows;
Model N1000 Cude
System Release 1.0
System Software Mach/Unix
It has one of them natty likkle optical drives in it, for booting I
guess. The machine worked once a few
months ago but died for no apparent reason. It was sitting in a store
room for 3 years, brought into the
world thorgh idle curiosity, died, shelved, scrapped (redirected to yours
truly).
It would be a sin to let the machine rot.
PLEASE, SOMEBODY, HELP ME TO GET IT TO WORK! ANY
HELP/HINTS/POINTERS(HANDLES?)>????
Where do I get system software? Can I get copies...send them to
me...I'll pay charges obviously.
HELP! HELP HELP HELP HELP!
Lots of Peace, Love and Good Happiness Stuff
Boris
XXXxxxXXX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Subject: E-mail address for Talus Imaging
Message-ID: <1993Jul5.165053.17437@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 16:50:53 GMT
Not being too sure my first post made it out, I'm trying this again...
Has anyone tried to contact Talus Imaging recently about their film
recorder hardware and software, ImageMate 2.2? I have both, and need to
as some questions, but I've had no response from info@talus.com or from
the people I talked to before. I kind of need to get a hold of them
fairly soon. I may have to resort to phone (ugh). Thanks! Replies can
be sent below.
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grad student/sys admin "For I am a Bear of Very
Department of Radiology Little Brain, and
University of Alberta Hospitals long words bother me."
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Winnie the Pooh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: brad%raven@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Brad Nelson)
Subject: Ethernet address
Message-ID: <1993Jul5.175550.772@raven.uucp>
Sender: brad@raven.uucp (Brad Nelson)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 17:55:50 GMT
I have here a piece of code that someone claimed would return the
ethernet address of a NeXT. It returns all zeros on my machine.
(a 68040 cube) Anyone got a fix?
---------
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/socket.h>
#include <net/if.h>
#include <netinet/in.h>
#include <netinet/if_ether.h>
main()
{ char hname[65];
struct ether_addr ea;
gethostname(hname, sizeof(hname));
ether_hostton(hname, &ea);
printf("%s\n", ether_ntoa(&ea));
}
---------
Failing that (or maybe better yet) does anyone know of a way of
getting the ethernet address of a NeXT without rebooting and
reading the messages displayed? I'd like to be able to do some
admin stuff from remote - this is a pain!
--
-Brad brad%shunda@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
bradley@cs.ualberta.ca
From: altitude@css.itd.umich.edu (Alex Tang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to use LJIII with Slab.
Date: 5 Jul 1993 18:44:56 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - ITD Consulting and Support
Message-ID: <219sr8$cq3@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
Hi. I'm trying to hook up a NON-PostScript LaserJet III to a Next Slab
running 3.0. How would I do that?
Thanx...alex...
Alex Tang -- ALTITUDE@UMICH.EDU...USERW00Y@UMICHUM.BITNET
U of M, SNRE: Student and Computer Consultant II
ITD/CSS Consultant and...General Fun Loving Guy :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Subject: IEEE Bus for NSFIP?
Message-ID: <1993Jul5.202902.4788@aplki.toppoint.de>
Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Organization: Andreas Ploeger
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 93 20:29:02 GMT
Hi,
Is there a company that makes an IEEE Interface for PCs with a driver for
NeXTstep for Intel?
Would it be difficult to write such a driver myself using the driver kit?
Thanks,
Andreas
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
Subject: Quieter Fans
Message-ID: <1993Jul5.205201.297@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 20:52:01 GMT
Does anyone know of a source for quieter fans for a NeXTstation? Avery
Wang posted a while back that he found some stations to be much quieter
than others. Mine seems rather on the loud side.
Anybody have experience putting in a new fan?
Thanks,
Scott Roy
Department of Computer Science
Stanford University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: Combi-boards ( EISA + VLB) Does they work with NS FIP 3.1?
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul05.204754.27803@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1993 20:47:54 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1993Jul4.170908.5082@marcon.ka.sub.org>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <1993Jul4.170908.5082@marcon.ka.sub.org>, emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos) writes:
|> Hi folks,
|>
|> for my own PC I want to use an EISA + VLB motherboard to get maximum
|> performance. I've heard a lot about the MICRONICS EISA + VLB motherboard.
|>
|> Now I have one question: DOES IT REALLY WORK ?
Don't know about the Micronics one, but I have an AIR EISA, VLB motherboard, (just picked it up Friday) and the system works just great. (AMI 1.1 EISA BIOS)
Best thing you can do is, simply get the dealer to allow you to do a test install. The little company I bought my system let me do this. They were very understanding, as I explained to them they were dealing with NeXTSTEP, and not just DOS/Windows....
|>
|> I tested another combi board and I had the problem that NS didn't recognize the
|> VLB ATI Ultra Pro. When running with an ATI Ultra Pro EISA version no problems
|> occured, but this was in PR2.
|>
Hmmmmm.... I don't have my ATI VLB card yet. Should be here by the end of the week. Till then, I'm running a Tseng4000 Diamond Speedstar. I'll let you know how it works out...
|> Thank You for your help
|>
|> Stathis
|> --
|> Marinos EDV - Consulting | NEXTSTEP Software and Consulting Services
|> Evstathios Marinos | Phone : +49 721 37 71 78
|> Gartenstr. 2 | Fax : +49 721 37 71 79
|> 76133 Karlsruhe (GERMANY) | E-Mail: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org
--
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gypsy!servo@csn.org (home -- NeXTMail ok)
_________________________________________________________________________
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|o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o|
|o|Performance Tools III -- Marvin Martian ____ |o|
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From: toml@skie.ECE.ORST.EDU (Tom Lieuallen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 16->20meg memory upgrade
Message-ID: <21a66cINNbu2@engr.orst.edu>
Date: 5 Jul 93 21:24:28 GMT
References: <1993Jun30.173917.29706@ctp.com>
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
In article <1993Jun30.173917.29706@ctp.com> gseng@ctp.com (Greg Sengle)
writes:
> I have a NeXT station mono 25mhz, rom revision 59 which
> shipped originally from NeXT as a 16/400 machine.
> I have just purchased 4x1meg simms to upgrade to 20 megs.
> Upon power up, the machine fails diagnostics and says something
> like mixed mode in bank 1.
>
> ALL 8 chips are non parity ram, 100ns.
> I simply put the new four chips in the empty slots, and rebooted.
>
> The machine will then boot if i tell it to, but of course it doesnt
> recognize the memory.
>
> I have tried reseating them. Is there some order they need to be in?
> Any thoughts? I have no reason to believe the chips are bad, as they
> came from another machine which went from 8 to 20 megs, and worked at
> that point.
> Ideas?
I haven't seen any follow ups to this one yet.
Does the machine see the memory when you are in the boot prom mode?
You can stop the boot by hitting <Alt>"`". Then type 'm' to see your
memory configuration. It would be interesting to see if the machine
recognizes the memory at that point.
I went from 8 to 20 in my machine. Of course I put the chips in
the wrong slots to begin with. The 4 MB chips went in the back --
towards the power supply (I believe).
Doubt this is of any help.....
--------
Tom Lieuallen
toml@ece.orst.edu
From: ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Dodamani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP on 486 Awfully Slow. Any Reasons?
Date: 5 Jul 1993 23:00:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <21abqa$jjg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
The 486 system that I am using is awfully slow. I am wondering why it is
so. It would be great if someone could comment.
Here is the configuration:
486-33 DX Clone(ISA)
32MB RAM - 70 ns
Fujitsu 512MB -12ms Hard Disk
Adaptec 1542C Controller configured for 5MB/sec data transfer
SMC EtherElite16 Ethernet card
Microsoft serial mouse
ATI Ultra Pro -2MB
ViewSonic 1024X768 - 72Hz monitor
CD-ROM Drive not connected(System Slower when connected)
The system has been with all the standard configuration
as specified by NeXT.
Thanks in advance for your comments
Ramesh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: Compaq Contura 4/25
Message-ID: <1993Jul5.150224.13743@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 5 Jul 93 15:02:23 PDT
Has anyone managed to bring up NS/Intel on a Compaq Contura? I
understand that this $2,000 486SL notebook has no expansion system,
which would make installation a problem (no SCSI CD-ROM).
I wonder, though, if NS/Intel could be installed via Ethernet, or even
by pulling out the 209MB harddisk, installing the disk in, say, an
Intel GX/Pro, installing NS on the disk, and then reinstalling the
disk in the Compaq.
Of course, the optimal solution would be for someone to sell the
Compaq Contura w/ NS already installed, or for NeXT to support some
parallel port SCSI adapter that would allow NS/installation.
/ivo welch
From: altitude@css.itd.umich.edu (Alex Tang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How to use LJIII with Slab.
Date: 6 Jul 1993 00:22:38 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - ITD Consulting and Support
Message-ID: <21agke$gd4@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
References: <219sr8$cq3@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
Alex Tang (altitude@css.itd.umich.edu) wrote:
: Hi. I'm trying to hook up a NON-PostScript LaserJet III to a Next Slab
: running 3.0. How would I do that?
Hi, actually, I would also like to know if there is any way to let the Slab
print PCL?
thanx...alex...
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ITD/CSS Consultant and...General Fun Loving Guy :)
From: adam@samsara.santa-cruz.ca.us (Adam Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Additional serial ports for black hardware
Date: 05 Jul 93 18:29:25
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <adam.93Jul5182925@samsara>
References: <1BXEBUSE@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Hi, I've just moved into a big house with a couple other hacker types,
and we've decided that my NeXT is to become the backbone machine of
the house, to which we'll attach all the terminals and modems. The problem,
though, is that I've only got two serial ports, one of which is already taken by
my modem. We're debating the best way to hook everything together... Our
options include getting a cheap ethernet card for a 286, and hooking the 286 and
the NeXT together over ethernet, and using the 286 to plug various devices into,
but it may be easier if we can just add more serial ports to the NeXT somehow.
It seems like what would be ideal is some sort of SCSI device that gives more
serial ports.... Does such a device exist, and where can I get one? Is it cheap?
Or are there better ways to do this? Basically we just want to hook up a bunch
of dumb terminals and a pool of modems.
Thanks in advance for anything you might be able to tell me.
-Adam
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Additional serial ports for black hardware
Message-ID: <1993Jul6.031037.4302@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <adam.93Jul5182925@samsara>
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 03:10:37 GMT
In article <adam.93Jul5182925@samsara> adam@samsara.santa-cruz.ca.us (Adam
Beeman) writes:
> Hi, I've just moved into a big house with a couple other hacker types, and
> we've decided that my NeXT is to become the backbone machine of the
> house, to which we'll attach all the terminals and modems. The problem,
> though, is that I've only got two serial ports, one of which is already
> taken by my modem. We're debating the best way to hook everything
> together... Our options include getting a cheap ethernet card for a
> 286, and hooking the 286 and the NeXT together over ethernet, and using
> the 286 to plug various devices into, but it may be easier if we can just
> add more serial ports to the NeXT somehow. It seems like what would be
> ideal is some sort of SCSI device that gives more serial ports.... Does
> such a device exist, and where can I get one? Is it cheap?
I'm working on reorganizing the FAQs right now, but here's a relevant
section...Someone reported that Uninet was out of business...?
Subject: P5. How may I attach more than two serial ports to the NeXT?
TTYDSP From Yrrid converts the DSP port into an additional serial port.
Yrrid Incorporated
507 Monroe St.
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
Voice: 919-968-7858
Fax: 919-968-7856
Email: yrrid@world.std.com
Uninet has a device, the SLAT-1, that will connect to the scsi bus.
Uninet Perhipherals, Inc.
Voice: 714-546-1100
sales@cpd.com
[Jacob Gore adds:]
Also, one can use an IP terminal server. In a non-Internet environment,
inexpensive terminal servers, which don't control access to the
network securely, can be used. If your network is an Internet subnet,
you must use a terminal server that controls either: (1) who can log into
the terminal server, or (2) which machines the terminal server will
access. These tend to be more expensive (around $250/port, but in
8-port increments), but it may be quite economical means of sharing
ports among many NeXTs (or other computers) on the network.
[Eric P. Scott adds:]
Particularly if one has a NeXT network, an Ethernet terminal server may
be the way to go. One that supports Linemode Telnet (such as the Xylogics
Annex III) will offer the best performance.
--
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PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: sspicy@stein.u.washington.edu (Misha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Ultra Pro for sale
Message-ID: <21aspi$42p@news.u.washington.edu>
Date: 6 Jul 93 03:50:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.21aspi$42p
Organization: University of Washington
We have an ATI Ultra Pro Video card for sale. It has 2MB video RAM and was used
for couple of hours in our first Intel Machine...
Best offer over $400
_________________________________________________________________
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From: zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP on 486 Awfully Slow. Any Reasons?
Date: 6 Jul 1993 10:20:29 GMT
Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <21bjld$mju@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <21abqa$jjg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
In article <21abqa$jjg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu writes:
>
>The 486 system that I am using is awfully slow. I am wondering why it is
>so. It would be great if someone could comment.
>
>Here is the configuration:
>
>486-33 DX Clone(ISA)
A 486 DX 33 is IMHO too slow for NS. Don't be surprised.
>32MB RAM - 70 ns
Are you sure your ISA board can cache the entire address space up to 32 MB?
>Fujitsu 512MB -12ms Hard Disk
>Adaptec 1542C Controller configured for 5MB/sec data transfer
Your data transfer rates will never reach 5 MB. Normally, NS uses
SCSI-1 asynchronous mode. So your effective rates are < 1 MB/s.
I benchmarked with 1542B and the same Fujitsu hard disk about
800 KB/s for reading and 430 KB/s for writing.
That's PC architecture :-((
>SMC EtherElite16 Ethernet card
>Microsoft serial mouse
>ATI Ultra Pro -2MB
If this card is neither localbus nor EISA, your screen performance
is of course poor.
Sorry for not turning water into wine.
--
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From: trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: SCSI hard disks on black hardware
Message-ID: <QY4EB8OR@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 10:37:31 GMT
Hi,
some days ago, I asked the community on their opinions/solutions
concerning 1GB scsi disks on black hardware. I only got two answers,
sigh but thanks John and Robert for your feedback.
Now I could get a Fujitsu 2694SA 1.0GB disk. Has anyone used this
disk *inside* a black slab for a longer time? I am convinced that
it will initially work (I use a Fujitsu 2624SA 500MB now), but I am
still worried about heat dissipation. I don't want my 68040 to die
in the heat of my hard disk.
Ciao, Stephan
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Date: 6 Jul 1993 12:41:53 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <21bruh$co0@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <ijeff.741799946@cunews>
In article <mmD06B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> ian@mindvox.phantom.com (Ian
Bainbridge) writes:
#lee@zoo.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) writes:
#
#> I read on comp.sys.next.bugs about how, with Intel machines
#> that are networked or using a modem, NS will hang or crash
#> very often. Has anyone out there had any SUCCESS in
#> networking using NS/FIP?
#
#With ethernet, partially to all the time, depends on the system and setup.
#
#With the modems, NEVER, EVER, period. They will always hang the system
#under the current drivers. I have talked with at least 15 people at
#MindVox and gotten the same response. They don't work.
#
# ian #################
# @ #Ian Bainbridge #
# mindvox. #
###############################################
# phantom. # I am not responsible for my opinons, I don't know or care!
#
# com
###############################################################
(This is for ETHERNET only)
We have 8 Gateway2000 4DX2-66V systems that are on ethernet with the SMC
Elite 16 Ethernet cards (truely some of the best). They have been on the
network (and on internet for that matter) since the end of May without even
a network glitch. No packet overruns, no bad frames or acks, no hiccups...
Too many people are blaming misconfigured devices on NeXT. If you make sure
your devices are on the compatability guide AND they are configured under
the guidelines listed in NeXTAnswers (details below), then you should not
have many problems.... Now for info on NeXTAnswers:
Here is the help file for NeXTAnswers:
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*
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again with the keyword "ASCII". If you still can't read the mail reply,
please request the document via FAX by calling (415) 780-3990 [NOT WORKING].
For help using NeXTanswers, send a request with the keyword "HELP".
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This system allows you to request on-line technical documents,
which are then e-mailed to you. The documents are sent as NeXTmail
attachments by default; you can request that they be sent as ASCII
text files instead.
To use this system, send requests to NeXTanswers@NeXT.com. To
request a document, include that document's ID number in the Subject
line or the body of the message. You can request several documents
in a single message.
You can also include the following keywords in the Subject line or
the body of the message:
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Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Date: 6 Jul 1993 12:44:04 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <21bs2k$cph@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <ijeff.741799946@cunews>
In article <ijeff.741799946@cunews> ijeff@hank.carleton.ca (Ian Jefferson)
writes:
#
#I suspect that the posters are experiencing genuine Intel PC hardware
#nightmares. Check with NeXTANSWERS@next.com send help index as subject
#and wait for a reply.
#
#A couple of real gems:
#
#Dell ME and ATI Card don't like each other.
#
Which ATI Card? The Ultra or the Ultra Pro (the latter is localbus)?
#Pro Audio board will crash your system. (had to remove mine from my Windows
box)
#
#IRQ 2 is unusable on some systems
#
#
Yes, this is true. IRQ 2is for the video card. Many cards use it, many
don't. Basically, IRQ 2 should be considered used by video...
#What NeXT needs to have is a strong *competent* dealer channel
#unfortunately although NS FIP "just works" the hardware "just doesn't
#work" !
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
#Ian Jefferson ijeff@ccs.carleton.ca No NeXT mail please!
# ijeff@computeractive.on.ca NeXT mail please!
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Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: shahrooz@rilian.ext.vt.edu (Shahrooz Feizabadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell DGX availability
Date: 6 Jul 1993 13:01:46 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21bt3q$c3g@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>
References: <m30n17INN48v@nada.cs.utexas.edu>
In article <m30n17INN48v@nada.cs.utexas.edu> dhs@cs.utexas.edu (Douglas H.
Steves) writes:
> Is the Dell DGX (JAWS) available on any of the current
> Dell machines? I picked up a recent Dell catalog and
> the DGX is not shown as an option, nor does it show the
> 450DE/2 which apparently has been discontinued.
> Thanks,
> Doug Steves
The DGX is available directly from Dell. However, we had trouble with the
17 inch Dell UltraScan monitor that they shipped with it. The fuzziness
of the monitor is a known problem according to NeXT's documentation about
Dell machines. They say that the NEC 6FG monitor does not have this
problem. BTW, you can get this document from NeXTAnswers@NeXT.COM
(NeXTanswers). The document number is 1154. Also, according to the
lastest NeXT ad in InfoWorld you can get NeXTSTEP pre-installed on Dell
machines.
Good luck!
--
Shahrooz Feizabadi
Extension Information Systems
Virginia Polytechnic Institute
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther)
Subject: NeXTs Optical's for nonCubes
Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System)
Message-ID: <C9qzsI.L9A@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 14:48:17 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Keywords: optical disk, MO
Does anyone know, if there is a MO drive, that can use the
Next optical disks, and that can be used on a station ?
Cause one of us has only a station, but we want to exchange
opticals with him too...
Please mail me direct, as I cant read News for the next 3 weeks.
Thanx
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From: kbacon@austin.onu.edu (C0d3 M0n$t3r)
Subject: Re: Combi-boards ( EISA + VLB) Does they work with NS FIP 3.1?
Sender: usenet@austin.onu.edu (Network News owner)
Message-ID: <1993Jul6.172312.21128@austin.onu.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 17:23:12 GMT
References: <1993Jul4.170908.5082@marcon.ka.sub.org>
Organization: Ohio Northern University
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Evstathios Marinos (emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org) wrote:
: Hi folks,
: for my own PC I want to use an EISA + VLB motherboard to get maximum
: performance. I've heard a lot about the MICRONICS EISA + VLB motherboard.
: Now I have one question: DOES IT REALLY WORK ?
I have a MINI-NICE EISA + VLB motherboard running w/the ATI Ultra Pro VLB
version, and have had no problems other then accessing the floppies,
but that is another story...:)
If you need details of the board, e-mail.
Kyle C. Bacon
kbacon@gauss.onu.edu (NeXTMail accepted)
: Stathis
: --
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: Evstathios Marinos | Phone : +49 721 37 71 78
: Gartenstr. 2 | Fax : +49 721 37 71 79
: 76133 Karlsruhe (GERMANY) | E-Mail: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org
From: lacsap@media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTs Optical's for nonCubes
Message-ID: <1993Jul6.173804.5466@news.media.mit.edu>
Date: 6 Jul 93 17:38:04 GMT
References: <C9qzsI.L9A@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
In article <C9qzsI.L9A@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes:
>
> Does anyone know, if there is a MO drive, that can use the
> Next optical disks, and that can be used on a station ?
This gets asked often enough it should be in the FAQ.
The answer to date is NO. Probably best to make plans
now to move your data off that technology ASAP.
pasc
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 16->20meg memory upgrade
Date: 6 Jul 93 18:03:04 GMT
Organization: IGD
Message-ID: <neuss.741981784@ramazzotti>
References: <1993Jun30.173917.29706@ctp.com>
gseng@ctp.com (Greg Sengle) writes:
>I have a NeXT station mono 25mhz, rom revision 59 which
>shipped originally from NeXT as a 16/400 machine.
>I have just purchased 4x1meg simms to upgrade to 20 megs.
>Upon power up, the machine fails diagnostics and says something
>like mixed mode in bank 1.
>ALL 8 chips are non parity ram, 100ns.
>I simply put the new four chips in the empty slots, and rebooted.
>The machine will then boot if i tell it to, but of course it doesnt
>recognize the memory.
Hm.. Your configuration is different from mine. But it looks like
you have mixed parity and non-parity RAM. Try to use the boot monitor
to turn off parity checking. If you are past a certain version (I dont
know which numbver), you can turn that off.
Then the machine should boot. Otherwise, get non-parity SIMMS.
Good luck
/*
* Christian Neuss % neuss@igd.fhg.de % ..in the humdrum
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cdl@chiton.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein)
Subject: Re: Additional serial ports for black hardware
Message-ID: <1993Jul6.191320.28928@chiton.ucsd.edu>
Organization: Marine Physical Lab, UC San Diego
References: <adam.93Jul5182925@samsara> <1993Jul6.031037.4302@cs.yale.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 19:13:20 GMT
In article <1993Jul6.031037.4302@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>
>
>Uninet has a device, the SLAT-1, that will connect to the scsi bus.
>
> Uninet Perhipherals, Inc.
The most recent phone number I have for Uninet is
714-263-4222
714-263-4299 (FAX)
Also they are by now up to the SLAT-2.
Speaking as a mostly happy customer.
carl
carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego
clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: npratt@gecko.modsys (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/I Installation Problem: Gateway with MC
Date: 6 Jul 1993 22:24:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21cu3m$t77@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <213o00$sq9@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article sq9@agate.berkeley.edu, mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass) writes:
> I'm having my own problems trying to install NS/I on a Gateway 4DX2-66V, but
> unlike Paul Sears, my Gateway is the slightly older version (from February) with
> the Micronics MCM2 BIOS chip set. NEXTSTEP doesn't recognize my Microsoft
> serial mouse; I get the message
I don't think the Microsoft mouse is in the compatibility guide.
Get another mouse.
Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jordan@netcom.com (Jordan A. Bortz)
Subject: Intelligent Serial/IO for 486 NS?
Message-ID: <jordanC9rnHB.E6H@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 23:19:58 GMT
I'm thinking about setting about a 486 based unix box
to run many serial ports (~50).... and am thinking about
NS versus Solaris vs Univell.
So... are there any good (digiboard like) drivers for NS/FIP?
How would/does NS/FIP compare performance wise as a terminal server
vs Solaris/Univel?
Also I read anbout poor disk performance in a previous article
blamed on pc archiecture --- if one were to use
an adaptec 1742 (32 bit) scsi controller, would performanfce
be comparable to Sparc based performance?
Jordan
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From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/I Installation Problem: Gateway with MC
Date: 7 Jul 1993 00:19:21 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21d4q9$14r@nic.umass.edu>
References: <213o00$sq9@agate.berkeley.edu> <21cu3m$t77@cnn.sim.es.com>
Nevin Pratt (npratt@gecko.modsys) wrote:
: In article sq9@agate.berkeley.edu, mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass) writes:
: > I'm having my own problems trying to install NS/I on a Gateway 4DX2-66V, but
: > unlike Paul Sears, my Gateway is the slightly older version (from February) with
: > the Micronics MCM2 BIOS chip set. NEXTSTEP doesn't recognize my Microsoft
: > serial mouse; I get the message
: I don't think the Microsoft mouse is in the compatibility guide.
I've seen this posted before...I've never had any trouble with MS mice and
NeXTstep/fip. When you are installing NS you must remember to remove the
PS2 mouse and add the "serial mouse" driver.
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
From: jlf@alf.dec.com (Jeff Finkelstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help needed installing NS/FIP
Date: 7 Jul 1993 00:45:37 GMT
Organization: digital equipment corporation
Sender: jlf@decatl.alf.dec.com (Jeff Finkelstein)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21d6bh$s0u@netnews.alf.dec.com>
This is most likely a FAQ, but here goes...
I am installing NS/FIP on a 486DX-50 with 36 MB of memory, SVGA 19" monitor,
420 MB SCSI disk, serial moure. It boots the install floppy and hangs after:
PCPointer Probe: mouseInit failure
Registering: PCKeyboard0
Any suggestions/pointers will be most welcome.
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jlf@alf.dec.com | ancestors, we borrow it from our
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: SCSI hard disks on black hardware
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.015757.16524@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <QY4EB8OR@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 01:57:57 GMT
In article <QY4EB8OR@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@desdemona.theo-phys.gwdg.de
(Stephan Trebels) writes:
> Hi,
>
> some days ago, I asked the community on their opinions/solutions
> concerning 1GB scsi disks on black hardware. I only got two answers,
> sigh but thanks John and Robert for your feedback.
>
> Now I could get a Fujitsu 2694SA 1.0GB disk. Has anyone used this
> disk *inside* a black slab for a longer time? I am convinced that
> it will initially work (I use a Fujitsu 2624SA 500MB now), but I am
> still worried about heat dissipation. I don't want my 68040 to die
> in the heat of my hard disk.
Some tidbits from the FAQ (which is being renovated as I post) (no, really):
FAQ-NeXT-Hardware-Peripherals: Questions about NeXT hardware peripherals
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: D1. What disk drives will work with the NeXT?
References: NextAnswers hardware.586, sysadmin manual
Most scsi disk drives will work without modifying /etc/disktab.
There are problems with the installation of boot blocks and badly
formed fstab generated by BuildDisk of NEXTSTEP 2.0. A disk connected
to the NeXT will need to have a NeXT specific label written to it before it
can be properly recognized by the system. If you get an error message
"Invalid Label..." this indicates that the drive was successfully
seen by the NeXT machine but it does not have the proper label, to install
a label use the /usr/etc/disk program on the raw disk device that the
system assigned to the device and use the label command to write the
label onto the disk. [how the NeXT assigns disk devices is explained in
the N&SA manual]
NEXTSTEP releases 2.0 and up provide a low level disk formatter,
sdform, which does not offer much flexibility, but gets the job done.
Most drives are already formatted at the factory.
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: D6. What is the procedure for installing a Fujitsu M2263SA/SB SCSI
Disk as the NeXT Boot Disk?
See Izumi Ohzawa's note in /pub/next/docs/fujitsu.recipe available via
anonymous ftp from sonata.cc.purdue.edu.
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Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: rory@nic.cerf.net (Rory Bolt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP Video cards
Date: 7 Jul 1993 02:09:47 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <21db9b$22u@news.cerf.net>
Summary: VLB S3 cards...
Keywords: S3 VLB video
I have installed NS/FIP on my Orchid 66Mhz 486DX2 clone machine with
mixed results... Standard VGA works, however, 800x600x65K does not
work with my Diamond stealth 24 card, which is a S3-805 VLB display
driver with 1MB ram. NextStep recognizes the card as an S3 based
adapter, however my screen is totally trashed as if my monitor
(a NEC 4FG) can not sync. Most annoying of all is that this caused me
to totally re-install all software...
Can anyone recommend a S3 based VLB display card known to work in the
800x600x65K mode?
Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: Intel PRO GX Video support
Message-ID: <glenC9rvpI.Itz@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 02:17:41 GMT
Does anyone know if the Intel Pro GX will ever support resolution of
1120x832 in 16bit mode???
Thanks, Steve
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From: kbacon@austin.onu.edu (C0d3 M0n$t3r)
Subject: Re: NS/I Installation Problem: Gateway with MC
Sender: usenet@austin.onu.edu (Network News owner)
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.031727.123653@austin.onu.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 03:17:27 GMT
References: <21cu3m$t77@cnn.sim.es.com>
Organization: Ohio Northern University
Nevin Pratt (npratt@gecko.modsys) wrote:
: In article sq9@agate.berkeley.edu, mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass) writes:
: > I'm having my own problems trying to install NS/I on a Gateway 4DX2-66V, but
: > unlike Paul Sears, my Gateway is the slightly older version (from February) with
: > the Micronics MCM2 BIOS chip set. NEXTSTEP doesn't recognize my Microsoft
: > serial mouse; I get the message
: I don't think the Microsoft mouse is in the compatibility guide.
: Get another mouse.
: Nevin
Even if it isn't on the compatibility list, I haven't had any problems
with mine, set to Serial Mouse.
Short System info:
486DX/50 EISA/VESA MINI-NICE MB
Adaptec 1542b
VL-ATI Ultra Pro
Kyle C. Bacon
kbacon@gauss.onu.edu
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How to use LJIII with Slab.
Date: 7 Jul 1993 01:56:45 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21dagtINNdts@clem.handheld.com>
References: <219sr8$cq3@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
In article <219sr8$cq3@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
altitude@css.itd.umich.edu (Alex Tang) writes:
> Hi. I'm trying to hook up a NON-PostScript LaserJet III to a Next
Slab
> running 3.0. How would I do that?
By installing a postscript cartridge! NS does not do PCL!
>
> Thanx...alex...
>
> Alex Tang -- ALTITUDE@UMICH.EDU...USERW00Y@UMICHUM.BITNET
> U of M, SNRE: Student and Computer Consultant II
> ITD/CSS Consultant and...General Fun Loving Guy :)
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From: jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope)
Subject: Installation woes
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.013641.23551@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Sender: news@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 01:36:41 GMT
I have a Adaptec 1540c scsi contoller and I'm trying to use with
a Fujitsu M2624FA and a sun cdrom. The Adaptec was left as is out
of the box ( scsi ID 7, int 11, dma 5, 5 mb/sec, blah blah blah ).
The drive was configured to run as scsi id 0, scsi II, and asynch mode
( jumpers 2, 10, 12 open ). This works fine if I don't want to
use the cdrom, but when it's connected I get the error
BIOS not installed, no INT 13h devices.
The cd-rom is set to scsi ID 1 (tried 1,2,3,4,5,6).
If I ask the Adaptec to search for BIOS on the scsi bus is
gives the same error but doesn't time out waiting for the cdrom.
The scsi card also doesn't see the Fujistu is the cdrom installed.
Thanks in advance
John Stanhope
jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu
Message-ID: <kp$@byu.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 93 23:40:44 MDT
From: erikp@digaudio.byu.edu (Erik Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSI 486 Install Problems
----------------- NeXTSTEP 486 Installation problems -----------------------
I'm having problems installing NSI on my system. I get to the prompt:
Ready to install NEXTSTEP
Type 1 to start. Type 2 to quit:
--->
I type 1 and shortly get repeating " Intr, dropping IRQ 7"
Then messages then say something about "I/O errror" and "Cannot initialize hard
disk".
I also get Keyboard and MouseInit Failures.
The system I'm using is as follows:
486DX-50 (NICE motherboard, AMI BIOS)
8MB RAM
BusLogic 542 SCSI card
Texel CD ROM
IDE 322MB Maxtor HDD
(
The FDISK utility reports the following inconsistancy:
Device 322 MB
Bios 321 MB
)
For some reason it doesn't seem to be properly recognizing my hard disk. I
don't know where the IRQ 7 business is comming from either.
Thanks for your help!
Erik Home: (801) 375-7081
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: NeXT memory
Message-ID: <C9p60n.A7@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Jul4.052521.12707@math.ucla.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1993 15:07:34 GMT
In article <1993Jul4.052521.12707@math.ucla.edu> scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S.
Port) writes:
# I have a general question about distributing memory
#in the banks of a NeXT Cube 040 (25mhz). Can I get better
#performance by rearranging, or will the gain (if
#any) be nominal?
#
#Current setup:
#
#Slots 1-4 4 x 1 meg 100ns
#Slots 5-8 4 x 1 meg 100ns
#Slots 9-12 4 x 1 meg 80ns
#Slots 13-16 4 x 4 meg 80ns
#
#Thanks in advance.
No gain at all.
Cubes that use standard SIMMS have no way of recognizing memory speed.
Anything faster than 100ns is treated just like 100ns.
Turbo machines are a different story but all SIMMS must be fast, if you mix
them in a turbo it behaves according to the slowest ram in the system.
Kent
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From: arb@andersen.co.uk (Phil Mellor)
Subject: Question to Nextstep/I installers.
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.085954.13851@andersen.co.uk>
Organization: Andersen Consulting (UK Practice)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 08:59:54 GMT
I have a question...
I have a Compaq 4/66i whcih has a 120Mb IDE drive, QVision graphics and a 3Com 3
c509 Ethernet card.
If I want to do a full installation can I choose to put the operating system on
my hard disk and the extra stuff ( dev stuff and all other non essential code )
on my Novell 3.11 network which has 22Gb free?
I would ideally like to have 10-20Mb free on my hard disk and I don't care how m
uch space I take up on my Novell server.
Also does NS/I come with drivers for 3c509's or do I have to ask 3com?
Also can I copy the entire contents of the NS/I CD to my server and boot up from
a DOS disk acces the server and install from there of am I talking rubbish ( it
wouldn't be the first time :^) )
That would be great coz I wouldn't have to cart a cd drive and adapter from PC t
o PC.
Thanks in advance.
Philip Buckley-Mellor
arb@andersen.co.uk
VC: (44) 61 435 5292
FX: (44) 61 435 5050
From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CD ROM players for a black old 68040 cube with OS 3.1
Date: 7 Jul 1993 10:32:55 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21e8on$qai@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
My Apple CD 300 doesn't work OK with my black old 68040 cube with OS 3.1 so I
need a reliable CD ROM to go with it. Can you recommend one specifically for
this "black old 68040 cube with OS 3.1"? Thanks. Take care...Paul
P.S. Please do not offer me to sell your CD player. I will use a purchase
order to buy a new one from a "legit" business such as a manufacturer or mail
order business etc.
P.S. The original NeXT CD ROM (borrowed it) worked well but I guess it's no
longer available.
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Michele Giardini)
Subject: Re: CD ROM players for a black old 68040 cube with OS 3.1
References: <21e8on$qai@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news-mail@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (News mail user)
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 11:31:41 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.113141.22514@ghost.dsi.unimi.it>
Paul Nevai writes
> My Apple CD 300 doesn't work OK with my black old 68040 cube with OS 3.1 so I
> need a reliable CD ROM to go with it. Can you recommend one specifically for
> this "black old 68040 cube with OS 3.1"? Thanks. Take care...Paul
We've had no problem plugging in a CD 300 to our 68040 cube (25Mhz) with 3.1
(Preliminary version :-( ). I've just played with a PhotoCd using PCD, and I've
taken a look at some other CD, and it seems to have no problem.
Michele
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Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
From: sgray@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Steven Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anybody tried 2-bit graphics adapter with NS/I?
Date: 7 Jul 1993 12:39:26 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Sender: sgray@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Steve Gray)
Message-ID: <21eg5u$h8p@news.acns.nwu.edu>
I'd appreciate hearing from anybody who's tried to get a Cirrus
(e.g. STB Horizon) or Tseng board to work with NS/Intel in 2-bit
grayscale mode. What board did you use? What monitor? What (if any)
problems did you have?
I'm sure I've seen a couple of postings on this, but I can't recall the
details.
Respond by e-mail if possible (but not NeXTmail). Thanks.
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/I Installation Problem: Gateway with MC
Date: 7 Jul 1993 13:00:40 GMT
Organization: Me
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21ehdo$q8b@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <213o00$sq9@agate.berkeley.edu> <21cu3m$t77@cnn.sim.es.com>
In article <21cu3m$t77@cnn.sim.es.com> npratt@gecko.modsys writes:
>In article sq9@agate.berkeley.edu, mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass) writes:
>> I'm having my own problems trying to install NS/I on a Gateway 4DX2-66V, but
>> unlike Paul Sears, my Gateway is the slightly older version (from February) with
>> the Micronics MCM2 BIOS chip set. NEXTSTEP doesn't recognize my Microsoft
>> serial mouse; I get the message
>
>I don't think the Microsoft mouse is in the compatibility guide.
>
>Get another mouse.
This is just untrue. The compatibility guide includes the Microsoft serial
mouse. I am using a Mouse Systems (optical) mouse in "Microsoft mode" with
no problems whatsoever.
Since the message you mentioned above has been deleted, I'm not sure if
this is related, but when I initially installed NS/I I had some problems
that were mouse-related. It turned out that the I/O card into which the
mouse was plugged was set up with the wrong IRQ. Switching the jumpers
on the card fixed the problem, and I was able to continue with the install.
Once the install was complete, however, I did have another mouse problem
because during the install where you have the opportunity to select your
hardware configuration I was given exactly *one* choice of mouse device:
PS2. I thought this was pretty ridiculous, since it was already working
fine with the serial mouse I actually had installed. Because it installed
itself with the PS2 driver, when NS/I did come up there was no mouse
control. Thanks to a tip from Robert Andersen, I was able to fix the
problem by booting in single user mode and modifying the system configura-
tion files by hand. If you are having a similar problem, let me know
and I will be glad to try to help.
Diana
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel PRO GX Video support
Date: 7 Jul 1993 13:53:59 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Message-ID: <21ekhn$lol@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <glenC9rvpI.Itz@netcom.com>
In article <glenC9rvpI.Itz@netcom.com> glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
writes:
> Does anyone know if the Intel Pro GX will ever support resolution of
> 1120x832 in 16bit mode???
> Thanks, Steve
I doubt it, unless Intel starts offering a version with more that 2Mb of
VRAM on the motherboard. There does not seem to be a place to add more.
I would be happy if a driver were available that supported 1120x832 8bit
grey scale. I very rarely need color, but I really miss the extra screen
real estate (yes, I have VirtSpace, but it isn't the same).
While we're on the subject of graphic capabilities, does anyone other than
me find 16 bit color to be amazingly annoying? The chunky dithering makes
me think I'm on a Mac or something. Although compiles are a lot snappier
with the 486 box, the hardware has a _long_ way to go before it can even
start to compare to a turbo color box (IMHO).
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: NS/I Installation Problem: Gateway with MC
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.121823.10704@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
References: <1993Jul7.031727.123653@austin.onu.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 12:18:23 GMT
In article <1993Jul7.031727.123653@austin.onu.edu>
kbacon@austin.onu.edu (C0d3 M0n$t3r) writes:
> Nevin Pratt (npratt@gecko.modsys) wrote:
> : In article sq9@agate.berkeley.edu, mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
writes:
> : > I'm having my own problems trying to install NS/I on a Gateway
4DX2-66V, but
> : > unlike Paul Sears, my Gateway is the slightly older version
(from February) with
> : > the Micronics MCM2 BIOS chip set. NEXTSTEP doesn't recognize
my Microsoft
> : > serial mouse; I get the message
>
> : I don't think the Microsoft mouse is in the compatibility guide.
>
> : Get another mouse.
>
> : Nevin
> Even if it isn't on the compatibility list, I haven't had any
problems
> with mine, set to Serial Mouse.
> Short System info:
> 486DX/50 EISA/VESA MINI-NICE MB
> Adaptec 1542b
> VL-ATI Ultra Pro
>
> Kyle C. Bacon
> kbacon@gauss.onu.edu
The SERIAL MS Mouse is in the 3.1 compatability list. The BUS MS
Mouse is not because it is not publicly documented.
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Adaptec 1540C & Intel GX/Professional
Message-ID: <Jul7.154008.43486@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 15:40:08 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
I'm experiencing some annoying quirks with the above combination.
Notably, they don't work together at all.
The Adaptec board fails its own self test with an "Unexpected
Timeout" error and never recognizes any other devices. Adaptec
is at a loss to explain it. Anyone out there using this
combination succesfully?
(The 1542B boards work just fine!)
--
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Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
| ... couldn't have been ME
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From: arb@andersen.co.uk (Phil Mellor)
Subject: NS/I and QVision adapter
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.144758.19139@andersen.co.uk>
Organization: Andersen Consulting (UK Practice)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 14:47:58 GMT
I know that NS/I will work just fine in colour on a EISA version of the QVision adapter that comes in Compaq Deskpro/M's. But will it also work and in how many colours on the ISA version that comes with the Compaq Deskpro/I's. I know the speed on the ISA version is about 25% slower but as far as I know the way you program to the EISA version is the same as on the ISA version.
Does anyone have a deskpro/i running NS/I?
Thanks in advance
Philip Buckley-Mellor
arb@andersen.co.uk
vc: (44) 61 435 5292
fx: (44) 61 435 5050
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wkwong@hood.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong)
Subject: Help on installing HD in CUBE -- WREN 8
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.160249.13921@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
References: <Jul7.154008.43486@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 16:02:49 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to install a WREN 8 ST41650N drive on my CUBE. Is there anyway
to reformat the drive to use 1024byte sector??
Any comment are welcome, Thanks in advance.
Andy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@adobe.com
Subject: Re: Help needed installing NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.163758.24813@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <21d6bh$s0u@netnews.alf.dec.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 16:37:58 GMT
In article <21d6bh$s0u@netnews.alf.dec.com> jlf@alf.dec.com (Jeff Finkelstein)
writes:
>
> This is most likely a FAQ, but here goes...
>
> I am installing NS/FIP on a 486DX-50 with 36 MB of memory, SVGA 19" monitor,
> 420 MB SCSI disk, serial moure. It boots the install floppy and hangs after:
>
> PCPointer Probe: mouseInit failure
> Registering: PCKeyboard0
>
> Any suggestions/pointers will be most welcome.
> --
> jeff finkelstein | "We do not inherit the Earth from our
> jlf@alf.dec.com | ancestors, we borrow it from our
> digital equipment corporation | children."
> customer support center | - me
There have been so many references to these two messages that I though I'd make
a couple of points about them. First, during the installation of 3.1 the system
actually tries a couple of different mouse drivers. Remember, at this point you
haven't yet configured your system to tell it what kind of mouse is attached.
Typically, one of the mouse driver fails (since you have another kind of mouse
attached) and you get the message:
PCPointer Probe: mouseInit failure
This is OK - that driver won't be used. Later you'll see a message saying that
PCPointer0 was registered. This is the other driver succeeding.
As to the message:
Registering: PCKeyboard0
This is emitted as the last act of the keyboard driver. If you see this
message, it almost always means that the keyboard driver has finished
initialization and that the system is on to initializing the next driver
(typically the floppy I think, but don't quote me on that).
Joe Pasqua
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: engelsma@elm.gvsu.edu (Ben Engelsma)
Subject: NEC CD-ROM and ADAPTEC 1542
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.165521.24628@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu>
Sender: news@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 16:55:21 GMT
Hi all:
I have a NEC CD-ROM that I want to use with the ADAPTEC
1542C controller for installation. ( The 1542C is cheaper than
the 1542B isn't it? ) First, will it work? Second, how does
the controller connect to the CD-ROM? Do I need to buy a cable?
Can someone out there tell me very explicitly what I have to do
and what I have to buy?
Thanx,
Ben Engelsma engelsma@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu
no NeXTMAIL please.
From: yslee@ux5.lbl.gov (yongsik lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 128MB MO with NeXTstation mono
Date: 7 Jul 1993 17:59:18 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Message-ID: <21f2tm$h2h@overload.lbl.gov>
References: <1993Jul7.165521.24628@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu>
Hi,
I asked about the feasibility of using 128MB MO (3.5") with NeXT.
Many of you replied positively. (Thanks folks!!)
So, I bought one from APS (a Mac hardware company.).
It is a Epson mechanism.
The MO drive was working well with Mac (plug and play.), but my Nextstation
does not recognize it.
Any comments are welcome. (yslee@ux5.lbl.gov)
My system setup is
Nextstation mono (25MHz) with NS 2.1 (yes, 2.1)
genuine Next scsi1-scsi2 cable
Epson drive is terminated externally.
scsi 1 = internal quantum 100MB disk
scsi 2 = epson MO
scsi 7 = cpu (probably)
Thanks in advance.
Yongsik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Subject: DAT Tape w/ DPT SCSI Controller
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.093357.16629@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Date: 7 Jul 93 09:33:56 PDT
Has anyone managed to connect a DAT Tape (vanilla WangDAT) to a DPT
SCSI Controller under NS/FIP?
I get control sense errors. DPT tells me they are waiting on a patch
from NeXT, but have not tried any DAT.
/ivo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wkwong@lyapunov.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong)
Subject: Help on installing HD in CUBE -- WREN 8
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.183130.14368@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 18:31:30 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to install a WREN 8 ST41650N drive on my CUBE. Is there anyway
to reformat the drive to use 1024byte sector??
The drive suppose to be 1.4G formatted, but I only got 1.18G formatted now.
How can I get the rest of the space??
Any comment are welcome, Thanks in advance.
Andy
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSI on AST Power Exec?
Date: 7 Jul 1993 14:16:39 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <21els7$8gg@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Subject tells all. If anyone has had luck/problems installing NSI on the
AST Power Exec notebook I'd appreciate hearing about it. I currently have
the 386SL version of it with a 60 MB HD/ 4MB RAM and need to know more
about what upgrades/peripherals I'll need to purchase to be able to run
NSI. I dont need color. Right now it looks like I'll need upgrades of the
motherboard (486 25-33 mhz sl), HD (to 200 mb), and ram (to 16-20 MB) in
addition to a docking station. Anything else I'll need? By the time
that's done it might be more cost effective to sell it and buy a NEC Versa
(but they also look pretty expensive). Does anybody take trade ins to
apply to the cost of a new notebook? Does anyone sell notebooks with NSI
preinstalled?
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help on installing HD in CUBE -- WREN 8
Date: 7 Jul 1993 18:15:38 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21f3saINNful@clem.handheld.com>
References: <1993Jul7.160249.13921@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
In article <1993Jul7.160249.13921@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
wkwong@hood.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to install a WREN 8 ST41650N drive on my CUBE. Is there
anyway
> to reformat the drive to use 1024byte sector??
>
> Any comment are welcome, Thanks in advance.
>
> Andy
Yes, use Formatter 1.2 from the archives. Did the trick on my drive!
Jim
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From: traupman-jonathan@yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel PRO GX Video support
Date: 7 Jul 1993 17:47:00 -0400
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Message-ID: <21fg8kINNstu@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>
References: <glenC9rvpI.Itz@netcom.com> <21ekhn$lol@fermat.mayo.edu>
In article <21ekhn$lol@fermat.mayo.edu> ray@mayo.edu writes:
>In article <glenC9rvpI.Itz@netcom.com> glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
>writes:
>> Does anyone know if the Intel Pro GX will ever support resolution of
>> 1120x832 in 16bit mode???
>> Thanks, Steve
>
>I doubt it, unless Intel starts offering a version with more that 2Mb of
>VRAM on the motherboard. There does not seem to be a place to add more.
>
>I would be happy if a driver were available that supported 1120x832 8bit
>grey scale. I very rarely need color, but I really miss the extra screen
>real estate (yes, I have VirtSpace, but it isn't the same).
>
>While we're on the subject of graphic capabilities, does anyone other than
>me find 16 bit color to be amazingly annoying? The chunky dithering makes
>me think I'm on a Mac or something. Although compiles are a lot snappier
>with the 486 box, the hardware has a _long_ way to go before it can even
>start to compare to a turbo color box (IMHO).
>
>Ray Ghanbari
>Mayo Foundation
>ray@mayo.edu
>
Actually, 2MB is enough ram for 1120x832 resolution. 2M=2097152 bytes,
while 1120x832x16=1863680 bytes, so the VRAM is not the problem. The limiting
factor is either the driver or the mach32 chip itself. If it is only the
driver, it may just be a matter of time until the ATI card does, 1120x832.
In fact, there have been reports that ATI and NeXT are working together on
a new driver that may just do that as well as run significantly faster. (If
anyone has any concrete info on this, please post.) The best bet with NSI
video is to wait a few weekes until the new crop of enhanced drivers arrive.
From what I can gather, the current generation of drivers (except for the
JAWS) are sort of quick and dirty hacks. They allowed NeXT to get NSI out
the door on time with broad hardware support, but they'll take a few months
to refine.
Jon
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Subject: Trying to install printer on NS/FIP.....
Message-ID: <1993Jul7.142100.5780@nic.csu.net>
From: jtmack@futon.sfsu.edu (James T. Mack)
Date: 7 Jul 93 14:20:59 PDT
I am trying to install a Epson FX-80 on my PC under NS.
Is this possible, so I can use lpr for printing out just plain text?
The printer is connected through the parallel port and I was trying
to access it in the printcap as lp=/dev/pp0 <- is this right?
If someone could email me a printcap or some instructions on what I
should do I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanx
jtmack@futon.sfsu.edu
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From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: Intel PRO GX Video support
Message-ID: <Jul7.225252.67880@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 22:52:52 GMT
References: <glenC9rvpI.Itz@netcom.com> <21ekhn$lol@fermat.mayo.edu>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
> > Does anyone know if the Intel Pro GX will ever support
> > resolution of 1120x832 in 16bit mode???
> > Thanks, Steve
> I doubt it, unless Intel starts offering a version with more
> that 2Mb of VRAM on the motherboard. There does not seem to be
> a place to add more.
No there isn't, but you wouldn't need it either. Quick, grab a
calculator!
1120 x 832 x 2 < 2 x 1024 x 1024
The reasons for not supporting it have more to do with the RAMDAC
than anything else at this point.
> I would be happy if a driver were available that supported
> 1120x832 8bit grey scale. I very rarely need color, but I
> really miss the extra screen real estate (yes, I have
> VirtSpace, but it isn't the same).
The GX/Professional DOES support a 1280 x 1024 8bit mode,
although the NeXTSTEP driver doesn't take advantage of it yet.
> While we're on the subject of graphic capabilities, does anyone
> other than me find 16 bit color to be amazingly annoying? The
> chunky dithering makes me think I'm on a Mac or something.
> Although compiles are a lot snappier with the 486 box, the
> hardware has a _long_ way to go before it can even start to
> compare to a turbo color box (IMHO).
Your humble opinion seems to have overlooked the fact that
rendering on 16-bit Intel uses the same dithered 12-bit color
that the Turbo ColorStation used. Some RAMDACs do a better job
than others at smoothing the results, but it isn't due to more
color depth!
--
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Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
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From: gabriel@corima.mty.itesm.mx (Gabriel Ramirez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 2 opticals in Cube possible?
Date: 7 Jul 93 23:03:36 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <gabriel.742086216@corima>
Anybody know if is possible put two opticals in a Cube and the configuration of the optical's cable.
Thanks
Gabriel Ramirez
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From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CD ROM players for a black old 68040 cube with OS 3.1
Message-ID: <69091@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 7 Jul 93 23:02:14 GMT
References: <21e8on$qai@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
In article <21e8on$qai@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> pali+@osu.edu writes:
> My Apple CD 300 doesn't work OK with my black old 68040 cube with OS 3.1
the apple CD 300 does work with my turbo slab running NS3.1
what exactly is the problem? is the device recognized during booting.
its one of the better CD rom devices, so it may be a config error of
some sort instead of a problem with the drive.
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From: traupman-jonathan@yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEC image series 3
Date: 7 Jul 1993 19:57:19 -0400
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <21fnsvINN356@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>
Keywords: Nextstep, intel, NEC
Has anyone heard any concrete info on the new NEC image series 3 PCs that were
revealed at PCexpo last week? From the little I've heard, they sound ideal.
They are suppossed to be fast and have a killer graphics system with
copious amounts of VRAM, but unfortunately no one (not even the sales rep
I talked to at NEC) said anything about actual statistics or cost.
I would greatly appreciate any info you might have.
Thanks,
Jon
(jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu - no NeXTmail please)
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From: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Subject: NeXSTEP Intel and Ethernet DRIVER
Message-ID: <C9tF81.23w@oceania.com>
Sender: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
References: <21bs2k$cph@menudo.uh.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 22:16:44 GMT
Well, I won't comment on Serial ports, but...
We have been testing several different 486 computers
here. All of them being used regularly.
All have Intel EtherExpress or SMC Elite 16 E-net
cards in them.
It is true that PC configuration is hard - no - really
a pain! This is all the ISA/ EISA stuff. If you can
get *that* right, NeXTStep is easy. (It was a *lot*
easier for me to get windows locked up!) It is
easy to see why there is such a large "support"
industry in the PC world. It is also easy to see why
almost every system comes with DOS and Windows
*pre-installed*.
At any rate, just to prove a point, here are the PC
uptimes on our network. Some are short because
we (I dare admit) use DOS/Windows on some of the PCs.
We have yet to get a PC to PANIC once it is configured
correctly.
intel up 19:34, load average: 0.41, 0.13, 0.09
ibm up 4 days, 23:53, load average: 0.07, 0.07, 0.05
compaq up 4 days, 23:18, load average: 0.21, 0.16, 0.13
dell up 8 days, 23:16, load average: 0.08, 0.07, 0.05
I have seen *no* problems with Ethernet, NFS, etc.
I have also done some hefty compiles on the PCs, hammering
the poor IDE disks. We also use the intel as a file server.
I have also noticed that a lot of people are using
"non-approved" boards and configurations. It is a bit
unfair to complain that NS Intel can't run on a machine it
was never tested on! My limited experience on 486s shows
that "clones" are actually quite different.
If you *really* want to get NeXTStep (and UNIX) running,
you need to be prepared to spend some serious time. Unfortunately,
many NeXTStep evaluators only know DOS/Windows, and they
are in for some surprises... :-) :-)
My $0.02,
John
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: 2 opticals in Cube possible?
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.024508.581@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <gabriel.742086216@corima>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 02:45:08 GMT
In article <gabriel.742086216@corima> gabriel@corima.mty.itesm.mx (Gabriel
Ramirez) writes:
> Anybody know if is possible put two opticals in a Cube and the
> configuration of the optical's cable.
The original NeXT Computer (68030 cube) usually had two connectors on
it's OD drive cable. NeXTstep 1.0 (note the spelling, take that, Steve)
had support for multiple OD volumes, but it was dropped by release 2.0.
In short: no, unless you go to a lot of trouble.
--
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Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: kaya@trystero.com (Kaya Bekiroglu)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP on 486 Awfully Slow. Any Reasons?
Message-ID: <C9tLsv.HH6@trystero.com>
Organization: The Trystero System (617) 625-7155 v.32/v.42bis
References: <21abqa$jjg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <21bjld$mju@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 00:38:52 GMT
In article <21bjld$mju@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> zryx0376@awssg6.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner)) writes:
>In article <21abqa$jjg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu writes:
>>Fujitsu 512MB -12ms Hard Disk
>>Adaptec 1542C Controller configured for 5MB/sec data transfer
>Your data transfer rates will never reach 5 MB. Normally, NS uses
>SCSI-1 asynchronous mode. So your effective rates are < 1 MB/s.
>I benchmarked with 1542B and the same Fujitsu hard disk about
>800 KB/s for reading and 430 KB/s for writing.
>That's PC architecture :-((
Are you saying that for the supported cards, NeXTSTEP/i doesn't support
SCSI-2? At all? If that is the case, mightn't it be better to go with
IDE, which gets 1mb/sec on my old '286-12? Unless, of course, I got
a DPT EISA SCSI-2 controller, which goes for about $550 and is, I
assume, very fast. Does anybody have any information on the DPTs?
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From: rustman@netcom.com (Rusty Hodge)
Subject: Re: AES/EBU Digital with SMPTE?
Message-ID: <rustmanC9u89H.J8z@netcom.com>
Keywords: AES, EBU, SMPTE
Organization: A+Plus Consulting
References: <1993Jun25.155720.3970@ulysses.att.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 08:44:05 GMT
Digidesign ProTools will do the job for you.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tommi@balou.stc.auc.dk
Subject: Driver for Handyscanner?
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.102652.3395@iesd.auc.dk>
Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News)
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Aalborg
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 10:26:52 GMT
Hi,
I have an old Logitech Handyscanner which I used some years ago with my
Atari... Is it possible to connect it to the NeXT? Does anybody have a
driver?
Thanks, tommi
-----------------------
Thomas Pfleiderer
tommi@balou.stc.auc.dk
NeXT-Mail preferred
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope)
Subject: Problems with HD, ATI GUP EISA
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.123718.29752@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Sender: news@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 12:37:18 GMT
I have been trying to install NS/FIP for 12 hours now and
getting a little tired.
Has anyone had problems with RDP exceptions being called after
powering off and then turning the system back on?
The main problem right now is that the HD is gettting corrupted
after every reboot, so much that NS won't load after a few
reboots (I'm pretty sure that this is because of improper scsi
termination). A side question, does anyone know the proper
jumper setting on a Fujitsu M2624FA so that it's properly
terminated?
I also discovered that my Nanoe F550i is having problems syncing
to the ATI card. Is any else had this trouble?
Thanks
John Stanhope
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS3.1/fip: Possible bug in formatting floppies? (Survey please)
Date: 8 Jul 1993 12:47:11 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <21h50f$8ka@menudo.uh.edu>
Keywords: Please, read, and, send, an, answer
I have found out last night (after talking with a vendor during our NEXTSTEP
User Group meeting) that they were having problems formating a floppy under
NS3.1/fip. They were using a custom clone box. When the formatting process
started, they would get a system panic and this was a consistant crash.
Everytime they attempted to format, the system would panic. Well I decided
to give it a try on our trusty old Gateway2000 systems (8 4DX2-66V systems).
And wouldn't you know, the format fails on these systems also with the
following messages:
Jul 7 19:30:04 redwood mach: DOS File System: Initialized
Jul 7 19:30:21 redwood mach: FloppyCntIo:flushIntMsgs:Stray Interrupt
Jul 7 19:30:25 redwood mach: fd0: Disk Unformatted
Jul 7 19:30:39 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:40 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:40 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RECALIBRATING
Jul 7 19:30:43 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:43 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:43 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RECALIBRATING
Jul 7 19:30:43 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:43 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:43 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RECALIBRATING
Jul 7 19:30:43 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:43 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:47 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RECALIBRATING
Jul 7 19:30:47 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:47 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:47 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RECALIBRATING
Jul 7 19:30:47 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:47 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: RETRYING
Jul 7 19:30:47 redwood mach: fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; Missing Address
Mark: FATAL
Fortunately we have 50 NeXTStations around so we can format our disks. Now,
I want to do a survey:
Try formatting a 1.44M floppy on your Intel box under NEXTSTEP. Let me know
the results (send any console messages, if possible). Also, include the
specs for your box (i.e, vendor, bios, type of floppy/disk controller [it
might be integrated like the Gateways], amount of ram, etc). I will
summarize this info and forward it on to a contact a NeXT to see if they are
aware of this problem and if they are working on it.
Thanks!
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Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
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From: marc@ecu.unice.fr (Marc Monticelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Video card performance
Date: 8 Jul 1993 13:19:49 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Message-ID: <21h6tl$ocb@taloa.unice.fr>
Hi,
I looking for a video card for Intel with high resolution
with the same (or more) performance that NeXTStation color turbo.
My revendor send me a Orchid fahrenheit but the moving of window is very
bad
as the displacement of cursor. We use a beautiful 17'' Sony Screen.
Is someone have test performance of video card with NS/FIP ?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pdc4d@amsun29.apma.Virginia.EDU (Philip D. Crow)
Subject: Black System Disk Won't Boot
Message-ID: <C9uJDr.FFu@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 12:44:14 GMT
This is a posting of desperation. Yesterday I was arranging disks
on my slab (adding one for more storage). During the file moving
I inadvertantly copied over some files in the root directory (including
but not necessarily limited to the total destruction of \bin).
Not realizing the gravity of the problem, I turned the machine off and
now it won't boot. In particular, shortly after moving from the
"Testing System" message in the boot panel to the "Loading From Disk"
(I think those are the words) the sequence is interrupted and a little
window is displayed (I think it is the nmi monitor window). Before I
can flinch, messages roll off the top of the window and "boot_rc" is
repeated every few seconds, followed by a couple of blank lines. The
machine still responds to the power key and I can turn it off.
Looking in the Network and System Admin manual I read how to get
the ROM monitor to come up and succeeded in starting the monitor.
Further reading suggests typing "bsd" to boot from the hard disk.
When I try that the "boot_rc" message repeats in the manner described
above.
Presumably only a few files were destroyed, but what can I do to fix
this problem? Is it possible to build a floppy as a bootable disk?
I have access to other nexts. Would such a build require root priveledge?
What about the my new hard drive? Could it become a boot drive?
If so, how?
System:
Mono Turbo
8Meg RAM
234MEG internal system disk (the one that won't boot anymore)
203MEG external drive (not bootable)
Running: NS 3.0
Thanks for bearing with my tail of woe. All comments appreciated
either to the group or to e-mail: pdc4d@virginia.edu (reply should
work).
Phil Crow
From: nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C Belog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ZyXEL modem list wanted
Date: 8 Jul 1993 13:48:20 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Message-ID: <21h8j4$j13@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
Hi all,
I looked in the archives, but I could't find anything ...
I am looking for a list of vendors that supply ZyXEL
modems. Prefferably, with comments on support
and service, etc...
If I don't get a response in the next week, I'll
probably post again asking for individual
Vendor names ... thanks all.
joel
Message-ID: <6p$@byu.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 13:34:32 MDT
From: erikp@digaudio.byu.edu (Erik Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP! HELP! HELP! NS 486
HELP! HELP! HELP! NS 486
======================================================================
I get repeating "Intr: dropped IRQ 7" messages when trying to install.
Eventually I get one of two messages:
"I/O error...can't initialize hard disk"
or
"panic...Raise RDP exception 6 sub 0"
Has anyone found a work-around for these errors.
Your help is deeply appreciated.
Erik Peterson
From: john@klein.Mines.Colorado.EDU (John Stockwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 1.2GB diskdrives and Fax Modems on NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.165344.37261@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: 8 Jul 93 16:53:44 GMT
Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Many thanks to all of those who replied to my
recent requests for info. One post was
regarding "fax modems for NeXTs" and
another post was regarding "1.2Gb diskdrives on NeXT".
John Stockwell
Center for Wave Phenomena
Colorado School of Mines
Golden, CO 80401
john@dix.mines.colorado.edu
From: strickla@aloha.usc.edu (Bryan Strickland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NICE super EISA
Date: 8 Jul 1993 13:21:32 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: strickla@aloha.usc.edu
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <21hvkc$21d@aloha.usc.edu>
Does anybody know if the NICE super EISA motherboard works with NextStep for
Intel?
thanks,
Bryan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
Subject: Re: Intel PRO GX Video support
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.145609.6180@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <Jul7.225252.67880@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 14:56:09 GMT
Intel is coming out with PCI video for the GX in Q1 94. Although, I
don't know if this helps in the resolution category. It will,
however, help speed up video performance. We'll probably see the
Pentium upgrade at that time too.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
In article <Jul7.225252.67880@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca
(Blake Stone) writes:
> > > Does anyone know if the Intel Pro GX will ever support
> > > resolution of 1120x832 in 16bit mode???
> > > Thanks, Steve
>
> > I doubt it, unless Intel starts offering a version with more
> > that 2Mb of VRAM on the motherboard. There does not seem to be
> > a place to add more.
>
> No there isn't, but you wouldn't need it either. Quick, grab a
> calculator!
>
> 1120 x 832 x 2 < 2 x 1024 x 1024
>
> The reasons for not supporting it have more to do with the RAMDAC
> than anything else at this point.
>
> > I would be happy if a driver were available that supported
> > 1120x832 8bit grey scale. I very rarely need color, but I
> > really miss the extra screen real estate (yes, I have
> > VirtSpace, but it isn't the same).
>
> The GX/Professional DOES support a 1280 x 1024 8bit mode,
> although the NeXTSTEP driver doesn't take advantage of it yet.
>
> > While we're on the subject of graphic capabilities, does anyone
> > other than me find 16 bit color to be amazingly annoying? The
> > chunky dithering makes me think I'm on a Mac or something.
> > Although compiles are a lot snappier with the 486 box, the
> > hardware has a _long_ way to go before it can even start to
> > compare to a turbo color box (IMHO).
>
> Your humble opinion seems to have overlooked the fact that
> rendering on 16-bit Intel uses the same dithered 12-bit color
> that the Turbo ColorStation used. Some RAMDACs do a better job
> than others at smoothing the results, but it isn't due to more
> color depth!
>
> --
> Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation
> Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
> | ... couldn't have been ME
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Anybody tried 2-bit graphics adapter with NS/I?
Date: 8 Jul 1993 20:56:00 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
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References: <21eg5u$h8p@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <21eg5u$h8p@news.acns.nwu.edu> sgray@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
(Steven Gray) writes:
> I'd appreciate hearing from anybody who's tried to get a Cirrus
> (e.g. STB Horizon) or Tseng board to work with NS/Intel in 2-bit
> grayscale mode. What board did you use? What monitor? What (if any)
> problems did you have?
>
> I'm sure I've seen a couple of postings on this, but I can't recall
the
> details.
>
> Respond by e-mail if possible (but not NeXTmail). Thanks.
Well, I FINALLY found an Tseng ET4000 board that WORKS! I've been
through 2 other ET4000 boards, and a few Cirrus ones, to no avail.
I got it from Alpine Computing MicroAge 801.268.8877, talk to Kris
Magnusson, NEXTSTEP sales and consulting.
It is an ISA board, and the first one I've seen with a crystal module
on it with a high enough frequency to scan the monitor correctly
non-interlaced!
Jim
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From: garyb@gcm.com (Gary Blumenstein)
Subject: Digiboard Serial Driver!
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.175234.7982@gcm.com>
Organization: Greenwich Capital Markets, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 17:52:34 GMT
Perhaps if more people (THAT MEANS YOU!) voiced an interest to Digiboard,
they might consider porting drivers for their low cost PC/X boards and
intelligent board products to NeXTSTEP FIP.
I can tell you their PC/X 4 and 8 port cards work like a charm under
System V R3 and R4 UNIX. They handle both modem control and hardware handshake
signals simultaneously at interface speeds up to 115Kbps!! I've been using
them for months under Dell SVR4. Now wouldn't it be just dreamy to have that
capability under NeXT!?
I called Digiboard's toll free number and spoke to Jim, their technical sales
liason. All I said was "hey, when WILL your NeXSTEP drivers be available?"
His response was "he was not aware they had any plans to do the port". I
said, "Hey, I think there may be a profitable market for Digiboard on NS/FIP
and you guys might want to consider doing it!" Jim agreed and promised
to speak to their marketing department and relay my interest and also mention
that I was willing to beta test their drivers should they do them.
So what does all this mean? Probably not much since I'm just all by my
lonesome. But what if other people called? What if for instance, ONE HUNDRED
NS/FIP users called to ask WHEN their NS drivers WILL be available? Who knows,
maybe this this kind of grass roots "out-of-the-blue" petitioning might awaken
these guys. I can tell you this has in fact worked with at least one other
well known serial board manufacturer in the past.
So, don't say I told you to call, but for those of you who may need to contact
Digiboard (for any reason :-), their toll-free number is: +1 (800)437-7238.
-Gary
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From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Subject: Re: Intel Machines: Benchmarks? Comparisons?
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.203618.8865@news.columbia.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News)
Organization: Columbia University
References: <bbrown.93Jul272254@ganesha>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 20:36:18 GMT
In article <bbrown.93Jul272254@ganesha> bbrown@solana.com writes:
> Hi,
> I need an Intel box that runs NS/FIP. I will buy a new machine
> from one of the vendors which certifies their machines as
> NS/FIP-safe. But, I need information that allows me to
> compare and contrast the machines. So, I have some questions.
>
> Is there any standard windowing benchmark for NS/FIP?
> Does anyone have benchmark information for some of the
> Intel machines which support NS/FIP?
> Does anyone know if NEXTWORLD mag plans to do detailed
> hardware reviews/comparisons?
> Any annecdotal evidence w.r.t. performance would be appreciated
> for the current list of vendors that support NS/FIP. I am
> looking for a machine which will allow me to do NS
> development, so portables and low power machines are
> not interesting to me.
Find "uhoop.uh.edu:pub/misc/Benchmarks.compressed" with a list of
Benchmarks as well as a description of their NXBench and BenchPress.
They test a Gateway, NeXTs, Compaq, eCesys (?), Dell and Epson.
NeXTworld is reputed to have a comparison of at least 8 systems in
their next issue.
Andreas Windemuth
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From: pasqua@adobe.com
Subject: Re: Intel PRO GX Video support
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.214450.18754@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <1993Jul8.145609.6180@hot.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 21:44:50 GMT
In article <1993Jul8.145609.6180@hot.com> Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com writes:
> Intel is coming out with PCI video for the GX in Q1 94. Although, I
> don't know if this helps in the resolution category. It will,
> however, help speed up video performance. We'll probably see the
> Pentium upgrade at that time too.
>
> Robert La Ferla
> Hot Technologies
Actually, until ATI revs the Mach32 chipset, it will remain the bottleneck in
the video performance of the GX, not the bus. ATI was supposed to have new
versions of the chip earlier this year, so hopefully they'll start appearing in
GX's at some point (as well as the standard VL bus boards with Mach32's).
Joe Pasqua
From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Disk mirroring and multiprocessor support.
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.211922.13978@news.columbia.edu>
Date: 8 Jul 93 21:19:22 GMT
References: <SCOTT.93Jul2151303@nic.gac.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News)
Organization: Columbia University
In article <SCOTT.93Jul2151303@nic.gac.edu> scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
writes:
>
> Gentle Readers:
> We are responding to a number of "RFP" s (request for
> proposal) for NEXTSTEP networks in which two criteria have come up
> (more than three times):
>
> o DISK MIRRORING
> o MULTIPROCESSOR SUPPORT
>
[...]
Would making a backup from one disk to another every half hour
or ten minutes or so using "rdist" qualify as "Disk Mirroring" ?
If so, that would be very easy to set up under NEXTSTEP. Rdist
is incremental and thus would not use much time if the disk doesn't
change much. On the other hand, for some purposes I can imagine
the mirroring might have to be instantaneous, in which case NEXTSTEP
will not help.
Multiprocessor support is imminent as it has been for years. It is
definitely in a working prototype stage, but has never been released,
most likely due to more pressing problems ... I guess it would be
fair to say NEXTSTEP inherently has multiprocessing capability.
Hope this helps ...
Andreas Windemuth
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From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Subject: Re: 1.2GB diskdrives and Fax Modems on NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.220308.19608@news.columbia.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News)
Organization: Columbia University
References: <1993Jul8.165344.37261@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 22:03:08 GMT
In article <1993Jul8.165344.37261@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
john@klein.Mines.Colorado.EDU (John Stockwell) writes:
> Many thanks to all of those who replied to my
> recent requests for info. One post was
> regarding "fax modems for NeXTs" and
> another post was regarding "1.2Gb diskdrives on NeXT".
>
> John Stockwell
> Center for Wave Phenomena
> Colorado School of Mines
> Golden, CO 80401
> john@dix.mines.colorado.edu
It would be a apropriate expression of your thankfulness
if you posted a summary of those replies, so that others
don't have to ask the same questions again. The net should
work both ways, favor taken, favor given. This little piece
of netiquette seems to have almost disappeared from the csn
groups ... It make reading them less and less worthwhile.
All you find are questions, hardly any answers.
That is very unfortunate.
Andreas Windemuth
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> John Stockwell
> Center for Wave Phenomena
> Colorado School of Mines
> Golden, CO 80401
> john@dix.mines.colorado.edu
It would be a apropriate expression of your thankfulness
if you posted a summary of those replies, so that others
don't have to ask the same questions again. The net should
work both ways, favor taken, favor given. This little piece
of netiquette seems to have almost disappeared from the csn
groups ... It make reading them less and less worthwhile.
All you find are questions, hardly any answers.
That is very unfortunate.
Andreas Windemuth
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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Thursday, 8 Jul 1993 16:39:11 EDT
From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Message-ID: <93189.16391134II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP: Installed fine, now hangs...
I installed NS/FIP on my Gateway 486dx/2-50 without any problems at all over
two weeks ago. I've been working with it since then -- again, without any
problems. I then read about the serial driver problems on some machine and
decided to check mine (when I did the original install, I did not install
the serial ports because I did not plan on using them for a while and
figured that I'd just add it later if I need to). So, I go and add my
two serial ports and then shutdown and reboot. When it came back up,
it seems to work fine (loads mouse and keyboard drivers) and then gets to:
"Configuring Device Drivers" and hangs. I tried another time, got the same
thing -- and then tried booting with "config=Default" to remedy the
situation... It loaded the Default instances, but still hangs at the
same spot! Shouldn't it not even try to do this since I booted with
the defaults?
Any/all help appreciated... (like, if I bring it up in single user mode and
edit the configs, will this help? If so, how do I do this?)
Thanks!
- John...
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From: brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill)
Subject: Washed out screen == washed out monitor?
Message-ID: <C9uy6q.A0p@sybase.com>
Sender: usenet@sybase.com
Organization: Sybase, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 18:04:01 GMT
I've come across a lonely little NeXT Cube with 8 megs of RAM and a very
washed-out monitor. It looks like a nice home machine if I can bring the
monitor back to life. When monitors become washed out, is there a way to
repair them or do I just toss it?
Thanks, ...Michael
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From: brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill)
Subject: RAM question
Message-ID: <C9uyD3.AAp@sybase.com>
Sender: usenet@sybase.com
Organization: Sybase, Inc.
References: <1993Jul8.123718.29752@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 18:07:50 GMT
I know this is a FAQ (and I apologize to Nathan), but I've temporarily lost
FTP access to the archives...
What sort of SIMMs fit in a NeXTCube? Are they the regular 72 pin PC SIMMS?
Actually if you could define them in terms of what Mac or PC they go in that
would be useful (I, perhaps, can swipe some from a Mac or PC).
Thanks, ...Michael
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From: ad@golem.ct (Axel Dittes)
Subject: Re: Combi-boards ( EISA + VLB) Does they work with NS FIP 3.1?
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.092922.18866@ix.de>
Keywords: Micronocs
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References: <1993Jul4.170908.5082@marcon.ka.sub.org>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 09:29:22 GMT
In article <1993Jul4.170908.5082@marcon.ka.sub.org>
emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos) writes:
> Hi folks,
>
> for my own PC I want to use an EISA + VLB motherboard to get maximum
> performance. I've heard a lot about the MICRONICS EISA + VLB
motherboard.
>
> Now I have one question: DOES IT REALLY WORK ?
I try to install NS3.1 on a Micronics EISA/VL-Board since two days but it
does not work. Can anybody help me?
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Date: Thursday, 8 Jul 1993 16:55:48 EDT
From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Message-ID: <93189.16554834II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: More NS/FIP serial port drivers tidbits...
Well, I just talked with NeXT tech support (at the 800-848-NeXT option 4 #)
and here's what he told me (nothing much that we didn't already know) after
putting me on hold to talk to someone else about it... (I simply asked him:
"So what's all this I hear about the serial drivers not working at all or
sometimes working but only up to about 9600 baud on Intel machines?"
Him: (not quoting, just memory):
Ok, I just went down and talked with the guy who wrote those serial
drivers. He said that Yes, there are some limitations in the drivers.
They had worked most of them out, but there are still a few limitations
that they couldn't get worked out before the release (i.e. they knew that
the problems were there. :( I hate to hear that from NeXT). They will
definately be fixed in the 3.2 release though.
Me:
Well, will there be a patch or update disk available for 3.1 -- 3.2 won't
be out until Fall, right?
Him:
Right, not until Fall. Well, I know that there is an update drivers
disk that is coming out in mid-July, but I'm not positive that there will
be a serial driver patch with it. We're still working on the details -- we
haven't decided if the update will be available by FTP or if we are going
to send it out on a floppy. It'd be best for you to wait until Mid-July
and then call back. (I don't think he though I already had NS/FIP -- I
think he thought I was just a possible customer asking about what I had
heard.)
Me:
Ok then. I'll do that. Thanks.
...and that's it. Looks like we'll all have to wait a couple weeks.
Hopefully this will be taken care of -- maybe we'll get lucky and see some
nice new video drivers too (although I still think my ATI Ultra Pro is doing
a fine job and looks quite nice... :)
- John...
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SUMMARY: Disk mirroring and multiprocessor support.
Date: 9 Jul 93 01:10:58
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Distribution: world
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References: <SCOTT.93Jul2151303@nic.gac.edu>
In-reply-to: scott@nic.gac.edu's message of 2 Jul 93 15:13:03
[Again, this is from gam@inherent.techlaw.com. Respond to he, not me -scott]
Thanks to everyone who responded about Multiprocessing and
Disk Mirroring. We appreciate the support. Turns out that I
should've mentioned the obvious: that we are trying to clarify our
client's requirements and had already suggested that NEXTSTEP is
not realy meant to be a server, thus the multiprocessing issue
should or could go away. We also suggested that distributed objects
might be their solution in disguise. At least 42 great minds thought
alike on that part.
As for disk mirroring, even at a small departmental level,
where they would deploy a Pentium machine with a gigabyte, they
want some insurance/redundancy. But for corporate wide settings,
they will likely look at a Sequent class machine to spin industrial
strength DBMS and tend a disk farm.
The bottom line is that we think this was purely a check-list
exercise in matching NT against NEXTSTEP. So went the query: "NT
handles multiprocessing out of the box, so, does NEXTSTEP?" NT
also handles mirroring out of the box by allowing one to configure
two disk drives in the SCSI chain to be mirrors. NEXTSTEP handles
it transparently by leaving it to hardware. Which brings us to our
summary.
DISK MIRRORING
In short, there are a number of vendors that supply turn
key RAID/disk mirroring solutions that appear to NeXTSTEP as just
another SCSI drive. Specifically, the DPT EISA SCSI controller
(2012/90 and 95) has a hardware mirroring module and these models
are supported by NEXTSTEP/FIP, according to the Compatibility Guide.
Mirroring is provided by an add-on card to the basic controller
(another card supporting up to 4.5 MB of cache is also available).
DPT's phone number is 1-800-322-4DPT. Game over.
MULTIPROCESSING
Run NEXTSTEP at the client level and leave the driving :-)
to Auspex, DG, or preferably Hewlett Packard. Besides, when you
consider Portable Distributed Objects, and the HP PA-RISC promise,
it looks like this is the way to go. Now all we need do is convince
the requestor that this is perfectly acceptable and perfectly on
par with NT's "in your face on any platform from your clients to
your servers" strategy. Incidentally, I personally have seen NT
running on an eight 486 processor Sequent Symmetry box.
There were too many respondents to list here; thanks to
all, but here is a list of some of the best contributions in no
order of importance:
NAME ORGANIZATION
Jay Finger Convex Computer Corp.
Bill Chin ANDI
Jonathan Weeks McCaw Cellular Corp.
Mark Roder RISE Inc.
Charles Lloyd Giant Leap Software (formerly with WilTel)
David Pollack Athena Design
Benjamin Cline Athena Design
Dave Heinen Inherent Technologies Inc. <blush>
Scott Hess NXeffects Ltd. (& Inherent contractor)
Thanks again
Gregory Miller
Inherent Technologies, Inc.
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/I Installation Adventures on a Gateway 4DX2-66V
Date: 9 Jul 1993 07:09:09 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21j5il$o70@agate.berkeley.edu>
Thanks to Lusty Diana and to everyone else who responded to my earlier
questions. For the benefit of anyone else trying to install NS/I on a
Gateway, here's what's happened during my installation.
THE SYSTEM
Gateway 4DX2-66V (February 1993). It has the motherboard with 4 72-pin SIMM
sockets and no Pentium socket.
16MB of RAM
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro VL-bus video card (see below)
Phoenix 80486 ROM BIOS PLUS Version 0.10 GLB01
Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller with latest BIOS (see below)
Maxtor MXT-1240S 1.2GB SCSI hard drive
Apple CD SC CD-ROM drive (and, later, an AppleCD 300)
UPGRADING THE ATI GRAPHICS ULTRA PRO
I upgraded the Ultra Pro shipped with the Gateway (which had only 1MB of VRAM
and the older RAMDAC) with an extra megabyte of VRAM and a new RAMDAC. This
upgrade is available from Gateway for $125. It turns out that the instructions
sent by Gateway for upgrading the RAMDAC were wrong. There are two different
sockets on the Ultra Pro for RAMDACs, one for a rectangular chip with two rows
of pins, and another for a square chip with lots of pins. The instructions
assume that your 1MB Ultra Pro came with the RAMDAC with two rows of pins, but
mine had a square RAMDAC in the same socket that's used for the new RAMDAC that
comes with the upgrade. (According to Gateway, the square RAMDAC included with
the upgrade *is* an upgrade, not just an equivalent chip, so I needed to replace
the old RAMDAC with the new one.) I couldn't figure out how to get
out the square RAMDAC, so I called Gateway, and they suggested getting a dental
scribe (the kind a dental hygienist uses to clean teeth) and use it to pry up
the corners. (I found a scribe at a big Pay Less drug store nearby.) The
scribe works, but you need to be *very* careful not to get the scribe under the
pins at the corners; it's very easy to bend the pins.
CONFIGURING THE ADAPTEC 1542B
Gateway sells the Adaptec 1542B for $210, which seems like a reasonable price.
(It includes a driver kit. You don't need the kit for NEXTSTEP, but it comes in
handy if you have a DOS partition and want to run DOS/Windows once in a while.
Note that the kit does *not* include the driver for CD-ROM drives under DOS.
The DOS CD-ROM driver is included in Adaptec's EZ-SCSI package, which is
available as an upgrade from Adaptec (for about half the street price) if you
already have the kit from Gateway.) To use a SCSI disk larger than a gigabyte,
I needed to get the BIOS upgrade for the 1542B from Adaptec. (This upgrade is
apparently only necessary for the 1542B; the 1542C supports disks larger than a
gigabyte). Getting the upgrade turned out to be easy, fast, and free: I just
called Adaptec Technical Support at 1-800-959-7274 and told them what I needed.
I got the upgrade the next day.
I got the ASCII version of the NeXTanswers note about the 1542B, and it doesn't
have a lot of information about the jumper settings. (It may be that the
PostScript and fax versions have illustrations of the jumpers, but I didn't
check.) Instead, I used the jumper settings described in the NeXTanswers note
for the 1542C, and they worked. One additional piece of information: it wasn't
clear whether the BIOS Enable jumper needs to be installed. It does.
After hearing about the many problems people have with SCSI termination and
cabling, I decided to play it safe and get an active terminator (the kind
required by the SCSI-2 specification, but hard to find) to connect to the
(external) CD-ROM drive, as well as a SCSI-2 cable. (My hard drive, a Maxtor
MXT-1240S, includes an active terminator, and I suspect any drive labeled SCSI-2
does, too.) I got both the terminator and cable from CS Electronics at (714)
259-9100 for what seemed like reasonable prices (about $35 for each). Service
was quite fast: I got the order (which included a custom cable) in 3 days.
Note that if you have both internal and external SCSI devices connected to the
Adaptec, you need to remove the Adaptec's built-in terminators (three identical
"chips", each with a single row of pins), as described in the Adaptec manual. A
little screwdriver with a thin blade will do the trick.
I used an old Apple CD SC (Apple's original CD-ROM drive) for installation, and
it worked fine. However, I needed to disable Sync Negotiation on the Adaptec,
as recommended by the NeXTanswers note. With an AppleCD 300 (which I got
later), I could enable Synch Negotiation. If you're shopping for a new CD-ROM
drive, you should definitely consider a double-speed drive like the AppleCD 300;
the installation with the older CD SC was *very* slow.
CONFIGURING THE SERIAL PORTS
As shipped, my Gateway has a Microsoft serial mouse that connects to a 9-pin
connector on the back labeled COM2. NEXTSTEP requires the serial mouse to be
connected to COM1. Here's the story: the 9-pin connector, as shipped, is
connected to COMA (one of two serial connectors, along with COMB, on the
motherboard). Althought the Phoenix BIOS Setup program allows you to specify
the port connected to COMA and the port connected to COMB, COMA can only be
configured as COM1 or COM3, while COMB can only be configured as COM2 or COM4.
This means that, to make the 9-pin connector COM1, I needed to
--switch the cables connected to COMA and COMB, so that COMA is connected to the
9-pin connector and COMB is connected to the 25-pin connector
--use the Phoenix BIOS setup program to make COMA COM1 and use IRQ 4, and to
make COMB COM2 and use IRQ 3
--change the switches on the back of my Gateway Telepath modem (formerly set to
COM1) to make it COM3 and use IRQ 5. (Note that I couldn't use COM4 for the
modem, because COM4 is apparently used by the Gateway video.)
OTHER ROM BIOS CHANGES
To install NEXTSTEP, the 3-1/2" floppy drive must be drive A. On my computer,
this meant switching the floppy drive cables. There is conflicting information
in NeXTanswers about whether the 5-1/4" drive can remain installed. It can on
my system.
IRQ CONFLICTS
As shipped, the Gateway uses IRQ 1 and 2. NEXTSTEP requires you to use IRQ 3
for COM2 and IRQ 4 for COM1. This left IRQ 5 for the Gateway Telepath modem
(the highest IRQ it can use). The Intel EtherExpress 16 Ethernet board I bought
with the Gateway used IRQ 11. Because NEXTSTEP requires the Adaptec SCSI
controller to use IRQ 11, I had to use another IRQ for the EtherExpress, but
which one? The only other choices that that the EtherExpress setup software
offers (besides IRQ 10; see below) are IRQs 3, 4, and 5, all of which are taken.
A possible solution--which I'll try tomorrow--is to use a Logitech bus mouse,
which will free up one of the COM ports and its IRQ for the modem.
PICKING A MOUSE
Although I have a Microsoft serial mouse, NEXTSTEP seems to want you to use a
PS/2 mouse instead. When you get to the Configure application during the
installation, only the PS/2 mouse appears in the window, even though NEXTSTEP
knows you have a serial mouse and is letting you use it. You *can*, however,
add the serial mouse: click the Add button, and Serial Mouse appears in a new,
bigger list of choices. You can also remove the PS/2 mouse while you're at it.
If you don't choose the kind of mouse you're using in Configure, your mouse
won't work when you finish the installation.
UNRESOLVED PROBLEMS
If IRQ 10 on my system were free, I could have avoided some of the juggling of
IRQs. I can't figure out what it is that's using IRQ 10; Microsoft Diagnostics
says it's unused, and the Intel EtherExpress 16 configuration software
recommends it (and if I use it, NEXTSTEP won't boot). If anyone knows what
might be using IRQ 10--Gateway Tech Support doesn't know; one person who wrote
me suggested the video--and whether I can get it to use some other, higher IRQ,
I'd love to hear from you.
The NEXTSTEP display is shifted to the right of the monitor, so that about a
third of the right-hand icons are off the screen and there's a fair bit of
unused screen real estate off to the left. I'll try to find a fix tomorrow in
the user documentation tomorrow. If necessary, I'll play with the ATI setup
software, but I'd like the screen to be centered in both NEXTSTEP and Windows.
Before installing NEXTSTEP, I created a primary DOS partition on my new hard
disk and copied the contents of my old IDE drive (using the Windows File
Manager) to it. When, during boot-up, I ask NEXTSTEP to boot from the DOS
partition, I get the message "Non-System disk or disk error". Anyone know why?
NEXTSTEP is in a very different time zone from DOS: 7 hours away, I believe.
If I fix the time in one operating system, it's wrong in the other.
Best,
Mitch Gass
mitch@mills.edu
From: dillon@moonshot.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 8 Jul 1993 23:40:53 -0700
Organization: Homeless Electron
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21j3tl$n2v@moonshot.west.oic.com>
References: <216qep$gck@umd5.umd.edu>
In article <216qep$gck@umd5.umd.edu> matthews@is-next.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
writes:
:
:It's still rather amusing that people are so quick to blame someone else for
:such a catastrophic problem. I'm surprised that ANYONE would think NeXT
:would release a product that couldn't use the network when they push the
:machine as a CLIENT. The serial port issue is pretty lame, but I can see why
:that isn't a high priority compared to some other issues.
:------
Anything that crashes the machine is unacceptable, it's as simple as
that. It's unfortunate that an overloaded BSD 4.3 system can stay up for
hundreds of days while a NeXT can barely make it past two weeks with light use.
The *only* reason we are using NeXTs at all is for the GUI, but it's getting
old real fast (the crashes, that is). Another few people and there will be
the necessary 2/3rds majority for going to another platform at this company :-(
-Matt
:Mike Matthews, matthewm@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted)
:------
:Ketterling's Law:
:Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Royal NS/I Installation a breeze
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.121602.391@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 12:16:02 GMT
I received my Royal EISA/VLB system yesterday at 3:30pm the user CD
was installed by 8:30 after a little playing with DOS to verify
speed, games access, and copy critical files. I needed to change
nothing in the Configure.app except delete the VGA driver and select
the ATI ddriver and resolution.
The install did hicup once and needed to be restarted (I presume a CD
read error). The second time worked fine. This morning I installed
the developer CD.
This is one inexpensive, fast well build system. The case is metal
and the keyboard has a nice feel. I highly recomend it, and it was
the least expensive I could find in PC Shopper.
Have Fun!
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: NS/I Floppy Problems
Message-ID: <1993Jul8.155221.527@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 93 15:52:21 GMT
Has anyone had problems with accessing floppies from NS/I.
When I try to read a NeXT or DOS floppy from NS/I it says it is
unreadable. When It tries to initialize I get a panic after an error
about the wrong DMA byte count. A DOS formatted floppy works from
NeXT to DOS then I can copy a file to the DOS partition.
I hope this is a config issue. The rest of the instal has been no
problem.
Please e-mail so I get the answer ASAP.
Thanks,
---
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
From: kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Video card performance
Message-ID: <110@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de>
Date: 9 Jul 93 04:48:59 GMT
References: <21h6tl$ocb@taloa.unice.fr>
Sender: news@rt.bosch.de.bosch.de
Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany.
Hi
I don't have the numbers in my head, but I will look for them.
If someone is interested email, I send the performance test of
2 cards.
The test was between a winner 2000 S3 928 and an ATI GUP both LB
But since NSFIP uses the graphics card as a linear frame buffer the test
were good to say what cards are good for NSFIP
One idea is to remember:
S3 928 is not supported yet. They want to with 3.2
The VLB versions of the cards above is twice faster than the EISA Versions
In all ways
If the Winner 2000 is 100% memory to screen (I can rememver 23MByte/s) then
the GUP is 70% of it (somewhere at 18MByte/s). And Memory to screen
is the most important thing in my eyes for NSFIP.
And the relationship between the 100% to 70% is nearly in all cases true.
Only exception:
?????????
There, the Winner is 36 MByte/s and the GUP only 24, but I don't remember
if it STOSD or something like that and how important it is.
These test were made by a german magazine.
Hope this helps
Don't blame you think I am wrong, tell me the truth this helps much more
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From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: AES/EBU Digital with SMPTE?
Date: 9 Jul 1993 06:15:49 -0700
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Message-ID: <21jr25$lvt@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
References: <1993Jun25.155720.3970@ulysses.att.com> <rustmanC9u89H.J8z@netcom.com>
Keywords: AES, EBU, SMPTE
In article <rustmanC9u89H.J8z@netcom.com> rustman@netcom.com (Rusty Hodge) writes:
>Digidesign ProTools will do the job for you.
>--
>Rusty H. Hodge <rustman@netcom.com> Hodge Interactive +1 310 478-8798
>13428 Maxella Avenue #456, Marina Del Rey, CA 90292 fax +1 310 434-0231
> Public Key via Finger
NeXT will also do the job for alot less, especially if you buy one
of the "old" black boxes plus Bill Southworths MaxAudio.
maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope)
Subject: Does the ATI card WORK
Message-ID: <1993Jul9.125011.15446@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Keywords: ATI, NANO, Problesms, Pissed Off
Sender: news@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 12:50:11 GMT
After what has been the 3 most hellish days I discovered the NS/I does not
work with the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA (2MB) and a NANO F550i monitor.
The problem is that once I log in and some disk activity starts (NS on and
IDE drive) the screen starts to flicker and then dies and my monitor just
sits there and beeps at me that its not getting the right signal or it's not
getting any signal at all.
I thought it might be due to alot stuff going over the EISA bus so I removed
the external CD-Rom. I also have an internal scsi drive but that should have
no affect since it has nothing on it. (NS didn't like it either) I also copy
the EISA config file into the rom so that system recognizes the card.
Is it possible that older cards do not work with NS/I, I just bought this card
but the diagnostic software said 92.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, has anyone seen this with any other even remotely
similiar configuration, I'm at my wits end after installing this thing 10
times. ( 640 480 2bit is completely unacceptable on a $ 5,000 + system ).
So if you have any experience with THE ATI GRAPHICS ULTRA PRO EISA CARD and a
NANO F550i MONITOR please tell you got it to work or that you sent everything
back and returned to using OS/2 ( which was not this hard to install ).
Thanks
John Stanhope
PS. Please some respond to this even if what you heard was hearsey or if the
problem was with another system.
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/I Installation Adventures on a Gateway 4DX2-66V
Date: 9 Jul 1993 14:33:07 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21jvj3$6sk@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <21j5il$o70@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <21j5il$o70@agate.berkeley.edu> mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
writes:
#Thanks to Lusty Diana and to everyone else who responded to my earlier
#questions. For the benefit of anyone else trying to install NS/I on a
#Gateway, here's what's happened during my installation.
#
#THE SYSTEM
#
#Gateway 4DX2-66V (February 1993). It has the motherboard with 4 72-pin
SIMM
#sockets and no Pentium socket.
#16MB of RAM
#ATI Graphics Ultra Pro VL-bus video card (see below)
#Phoenix 80486 ROM BIOS PLUS Version 0.10 GLB01
#Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller with latest BIOS (see below)
#Maxtor MXT-1240S 1.2GB SCSI hard drive
#Apple CD SC CD-ROM drive (and, later, an AppleCD 300)
#
#
#IRQ CONFLICTS
#
#As shipped, the Gateway uses IRQ 1 and 2. NEXTSTEP requires you to use IRQ
3
#for COM2 and IRQ 4 for COM1. This left IRQ 5 for the Gateway Telepath
modem
#(the highest IRQ it can use). The Intel EtherExpress 16 Ethernet board I
bought
#with the Gateway used IRQ 11. Because NEXTSTEP requires the Adaptec SCSI
#controller to use IRQ 11, I had to use another IRQ for the EtherExpress,
but
#which one? The only other choices that that the EtherExpress setup
software
#offers (besides IRQ 10; see below) are IRQs 3, 4, and 5, all of which are
taken.
#A possible solution--which I'll try tomorrow--is to use a Logitech bus
mouse,
#which will free up one of the COM ports and its IRQ for the modem.
#
This is interesting. The Gateways that were shipped to us now have the DB9
connector as COMA and the 25pin connector as COMB...
#PICKING A MOUSE
#
#Although I have a Microsoft serial mouse, NEXTSTEP seems to want you to use
a
#PS/2 mouse instead. When you get to the Configure application during the
#installation, only the PS/2 mouse appears in the window, even though
NEXTSTEP
#knows you have a serial mouse and is letting you use it. You *can*,
however,
#add the serial mouse: click the Add button, and Serial Mouse appears in a
new,
#bigger list of choices. You can also remove the PS/2 mouse while you're at
it.
#If you don't choose the kind of mouse you're using in Configure, your mouse
#won't work when you finish the installation.
#
Actually, during the install, only the "default" devices are used. There is
only so much you can fit on a 1.44M boot floppy and most of that was used by
the mini-kernel. So, there are not any drivers on the floppy, and the
default chosen by NeXT was for PS2 compatible devices. Thus during the
install, it assumes that you have a PS2 Style Keyboard (usually not a
problem anyway) and a PS2 Style Mouse (this can cause problems). The PS2
Style Mouse uses IRQ12 which might, or might not be available on a
particular system...
However, in most cases, you should be able to install correctly with the PS2
drivers, and then in Configure.app (after the complete installation), you
can change devices. Again, this works in _most_ cases.
There are notable exceptions. One, for example, are systems that are using
the Micronics ISA/LocalBus System Board (Like Gateway2000 in their
4DX2-66V). On this particular system board, Micronics does not enable
jumper W7 which enables the BIOS to emulate a PS2 Style Keyboard. This was
the exact problem we had with the Gateways. Install a jumper on W7 and
installation and running NEXTSTEP was a breeze....
#UNRESOLVED PROBLEMS
#
#If IRQ 10 on my system were free, I could have avoided some of the juggling
of
#IRQs. I can't figure out what it is that's using IRQ 10; Microsoft
Diagnostics
#says it's unused, and the Intel EtherExpress 16 configuration software
#recommends it (and if I use it, NEXTSTEP won't boot). If anyone knows what
#might be using IRQ 10--Gateway Tech Support doesn't know; one person who
wrote
#me suggested the video--and whether I can get it to use some other, higher
IRQ,
#I'd love to hear from you.
#
As far as I can tell, IRQ10 is available on the system also. We are using
SMC Elite 16 Ethernet cards in our Gateways. No problems. I have heard
that there are some problems with the Intel Cards. It might be
configuration problem with the card itself...
#The NEXTSTEP display is shifted to the right of the monitor, so that about
a
#third of the right-hand icons are off the screen and there's a fair bit of
#unused screen real estate off to the left. I'll try to find a fix tomorrow
in
#the user documentation tomorrow. If necessary, I'll play with the ATI
setup
#software, but I'd like the screen to be centered in both NEXTSTEP and
Windows.
#
#Before installing NEXTSTEP, I created a primary DOS partition on my new
hard
#disk and copied the contents of my old IDE drive (using the Windows File
#Manager) to it. When, during boot-up, I ask NEXTSTEP to boot from the DOS
#partition, I get the message "Non-System disk or disk error". Anyone know
why?
#
Hmmm. Did you simply copy? If so, DOS can't find the proper BOOT sector.
DOS is _very_ picky about this. You might need to format /s (make a system
disk) on that partition to make it bootable... I am not really sure because
I try to stay away from DOS :-)
#NEXTSTEP is in a very different time zone from DOS: 7 hours away, I
believe.
#If I fix the time in one operating system, it's wrong in the other.
#
That is mentioned in the release notes (page 3, under Preferences):
o If your clock in the Date & Time Preferences is set to a time zone other
than Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), and you restart your computer using another
operating system, the system clock in the other operating system might show
the incorrect time. This is because NEXTSTEP calculates time based on an
internal clock set to Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), while other operating
systems assume the internal clock is set to the local time zone. You'll
have to reset the clock in the other operating system, then change it back
when you next run NEXTSTEP.
#Best,
#
#Mitch Gass
#mitch@mills.edu
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke)
Subject: Re: Does the ATI card WORK
Message-ID: <1993Jul9.224936.15950@sol.UVic.CA>
Keywords: ATI, NANO, Problesms, Pissed Off
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
References: <1993Jul9.125011.15446@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 22:49:36 GMT
In article <1993Jul9.125011.15446@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) writes:
>After what has been the 3 most hellish days I discovered the NS/I does not
>work with the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA (2MB) and a NANO F550i monitor.
>The problem is that once I log in and some disk activity starts (NS on and
>IDE drive) the screen starts to flicker and then dies and my monitor just
>sits there and beeps at me that its not getting the right signal or it's not
>getting any signal at all.
>
Even though Nano makes an excellent monitor, when I looked at the specs
a few months back, I think the bandwidth was not quite high enough to
support the VESA 800x600 standard (72Hz) at higher resolutions (at or
above 1024x768).
You might want to reconfigure the Ultra-Pro for a lower refresh rate,
say 60Hz and see what happens. Hope it's not too hard on the eyes if
this works. The NEC 5fg will sync a 1280x1024 signal at 72Hz, so this
would be another option.
Dennis dmanke@sanjuan.uvic.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kunal@passion.pilot.dmg.ml.com (Kunal Singh)
Subject: Re: Black System Disk Won't Boot
Message-ID: <C9wHLo.1I4@tigadmin.ml.com>
Sender: kunal@passion (Kunal Singh)
Organization: Merrill Lynch Debt Markets Group
References: <C9uJDr.FFu@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 14:01:00 GMT
In article <C9uJDr.FFu@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, pdc4d@amsun29.apma.Virginia.EDU (Philip D. Crow) writes:
|> This is a posting of desperation. Yesterday I was arranging disks
|> on my slab (adding one for more storage). During the file moving
|> I inadvertantly copied over some files in the root directory (including
|> but not necessarily limited to the total destruction of \bin).
|> Not realizing the gravity of the problem, I turned the machine off and
|> now it won't boot. In particular, shortly after moving from the
|> "Testing System" message in the boot panel to the "Loading From Disk"
|> (I think those are the words) the sequence is interrupted and a little
|> window is displayed (I think it is the nmi monitor window). Before I
|> can flinch, messages roll off the top of the window and "boot_rc" is
|> repeated every few seconds, followed by a couple of blank lines. The
|> machine still responds to the power key and I can turn it off.
|>
|> Looking in the Network and System Admin manual I read how to get
|> the ROM monitor to come up and succeeded in starting the monitor.
|> Further reading suggests typing "bsd" to boot from the hard disk.
|> When I try that the "boot_rc" message repeats in the manner described
|> above.
|>
|> Presumably only a few files were destroyed, but what can I do to fix
|> this problem? Is it possible to build a floppy as a bootable disk?
|> I have access to other nexts. Would such a build require root priveledge?
|> What about the my new hard drive? Could it become a boot drive?
|> If so, how?
|>
|> System:
|> Mono Turbo
|> 8Meg RAM
|> 234MEG internal system disk (the one that won't boot anymore)
|> 203MEG external drive (not bootable)
|> Running: NS 3.0
|>
|> Thanks for bearing with my tail of woe. All comments appreciated
|> either to the group or to e-mail: pdc4d@virginia.edu (reply should
|> work).
|>
|> Phil Crow
If you have access to other Next's, the easiest way for you to boot would be to borrow an external-bootable-root drive from one of the machines. Change its SCSI id to be 0 -- this should be the only disk with this id.
When you boot, you can mount the other disk to your filesystem,
i.e. 'mount /dev/sd1a /InternalDisk'
Once having mounted the disk, you can restore the bin directory. As to how to identify other damaged files, you can probably do selective diffs of certain directories, unless you want to replace the entire root partition.
Yes, you can make the external a bootable drive. Once having done a builddisk for the external, you can write the boot block to the disk with /usr/etc/disk, set the scsi-id of the new drive to be 0, and reboot.
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does the ATI card WORK
Date: 10 Jul 1993 13:26:31 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <21mg27$l3f@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <1993Jul9.125011.15446@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> <1993Jul9.224936.15950@sol.UVic.CA>
Dennis Manke (dmanke@sanjuan) wrote:
: In article <1993Jul9.125011.15446@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) writes:
: >After what has been the 3 most hellish days I discovered the NS/I does not
: >work with the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA (2MB) and a NANO F550i monitor.
: >The problem is that once I log in and some disk activity starts (NS on and
: >IDE drive) the screen starts to flicker and then dies and my monitor just
: >sits there and beeps at me that its not getting the right signal or it's not
: >getting any signal at all.
: >
: Even though Nano makes an excellent monitor, when I looked at the specs
: a few months back, I think the bandwidth was not quite high enough to
: support the VESA 800x600 standard (72Hz) at higher resolutions (at or
: above 1024x768).
: You might want to reconfigure the Ultra-Pro for a lower refresh rate,
: say 60Hz and see what happens. Hope it's not too hard on the eyes if
: this works. The NEC 5fg will sync a 1280x1024 signal at 72Hz, so this
: would be another option.
The Nanao 550i can do 1024x768 at 72Hz. It can only do 1280x1024 at 60Hz,
but the 560i can (though it costs ~$550 more). The 550i is an ideal monitor
for the ATI GUP when running in color mode.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does the ATI card WORK
Date: 10 Jul 1993 16:48:21 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Message-ID: <21mrsl$jia@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Jul9.125011.15446@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> <1993Jul9.224936.15950@sol.UVic.CA>
Keywords: ATI, NANO, Problesms, Pissed Off
Dennis Manke writes:
>
>Even though Nano makes an excellent monitor, when I looked at the specs
[for the Nanao 550i]
>a few months back, I think the bandwidth was not quite high enough to
>support the VESA 800x600 standard (72Hz) at higher resolutions (at or
>above 1024x768).
According to my Nanao brochure, the Nanao 550i supports 1024 X 768 at
75Hz. For what it's worth, the Nanao 560i in my setup works great with
a local-bus ATI Graphics Ultra Pro.
Mitch Gass
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: Combi-boards ( EISA + VLB) Does they work with NS FIP 3.1?
Message-ID: <1993Jul9.181825.1425@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
References: <1993Jul8.092922.18866@ix.de>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 93 18:18:25 GMT
In article <1993Jul8.092922.18866@ix.de> ad@golem.ct (Axel Dittes)
writes:
> In article <1993Jul4.170908.5082@marcon.ka.sub.org>
> emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos) writes:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > for my own PC I want to use an EISA + VLB motherboard to get
maximum
> > performance. I've heard a lot about the MICRONICS EISA + VLB
> motherboard.
> >
> > Now I have one question: DOES IT REALLY WORK ?
>
> I try to install NS3.1 on a Micronics EISA/VL-Board since two days
but it
> does not work. Can anybody help me?
>
> +------------------------------------------------+
> | Axel Dittes email: ad@ix.de |
> | c't-Redaktion voice: +49 511 5352-300 |
> | Postfach 61 04 07 fax: +49 511 5352-417 |
> | 3000 Hannover 61 timezone: GMT+1 |
> | Germany |
> +------------------------------------------------+
The HINT Super ISA & VESA motherboard seems to work quite well.
Supports 32 bit DMA, up to 128MB of RAM and was no problem for setup.
This is the one used by ROYAL.
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
From: grant@Manticore.COM (Grant J. Munsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Experiences with Maxtor MXT-1240S in a NeXTstation?
Message-ID: <384@gouche.UUCP>
Date: 10 Jul 93 17:07:28 GMT
Sender: grant@gouche.UUCP
I have a net impaired friend who has this question about disks for
NeXTstations:
The Maxtor MXT-1240S is available from NCA in San Jose for $1239. 3.5", 256K
cache, 8.5ms access, 3 year warranty. Does anyone have this working on in a
25MHz slab and is there a better price around. This drive is supposed to be
really quiet and have an awesome transfer rate.
This joke is offered in payment for information:
Q. What is the difference between IBM and Jurassic Park.
A. One is a high-tech theme park dominated by dinosaurs.
The other is a Stephen Spielberg movie.
----
Grant Munsey, Mainticore, Inc., (408)252-1135, fax: (408)446-9355
grant@manticore.com or uunet!ub-gate!gouche!grant
From: grant@Manticore.COM (Grant J. Munsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which monitor better Nec or Nanao?
Message-ID: <385@gouche.UUCP>
Date: 10 Jul 93 17:10:52 GMT
Sender: grant@gouche.UUCP
I have a choich between a Nanao F750i and a Nec 6FG. Any comments about
which would be better for a color NeXT system?
----
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grant@manticore.com or uunet!ub-gate!gouche!grant
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From: qrs@newshost.dartmouth.edu (Quabidur R. Safi)
Subject: Re: NS/I Installation Adventures on a Gateway 4DX2-66V
Message-ID: <C9yv54.Do4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Sender: news@dartvax.dartmouth.edu (The News Manager)
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
References: <21j5il$o70@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 20:48:40 GMT
Thanks for that great summary Mitch.
Quabid
Mitch Gass (mitch@mills.edu) wrote:
: Thanks to Lusty Diana and to everyone else who responded to my earlier
: questions. For the benefit of anyone else trying to install NS/I on a
: Gateway, here's what's happened during my installation.
: mitch@mills.edu
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Subject: Re: Which monitor better Nec or Nanao?
Message-ID: <1993Jul11.003351.3216@digifix.com>
Sender: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Organization: Digital Fix Development
References: <385@gouche.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 00:33:51 GMT
Grant J. Munsey writes
>
> I have a choich between a Nanao F750i and a Nec 6FG. Any comments about
> which would be better for a color NeXT system?
If you have the choice, the Nanao beats EVERYTHING hands down. While
the NEC is certainly a good monitor, the Nanao has been reviewed VERY highly by
the PC magazines.
I've been running a Nanao T560i for over a year on a color Slab and a
PC and it is very easy on the eyes.
--
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From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: Upgrade for NeXT Color to Turbo NeXT color??
Message-ID: <glenC9zGtG.2uF@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 04:36:51 GMT
Does anyone know if there is or was an upgrade through NeXT for a 33mhz
Color Station??
Steve
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Experiences with Maxtor MXT-1240S in a NeXTstation?
Date: 11 Jul 1993 07:15:58 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <21oene$siu@agate.berkeley.edu>
>The Maxtor MXT-1240S is available from NCA in San Jose for $1239...
>...is there a better price around.
I found one for $1099 at Pixel USA in San Jose. Their number is
(408) 929-7218. Unfortunately, mine is not silent; it makes a high-
pitched whine, but it seems to be getting quieter as it settles in.
Mitch Gass
mitch@mills.edu
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC CD-ROM and ADAPTEC 1542
Date: 11 Jul 1993 08:14:46 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Message-ID: <21oi5m$t6o@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Jul7.165521.24628@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu>
Ben Engelsma writes:
>
> I have a NEC CD-ROM that I want to use with the ADAPTEC
>1542C controller for installation. ( The 1542C is cheaper than
>the 1542B isn't it? ) First, will it work? Second, how does
>the controller connect to the CD-ROM? Do I need to buy a cable?
>Can someone out there tell me very explicitly what I have to do
>and what I have to buy?
The 1542B has been replaced by the 1542C, but the 1542B is still
available and is usually a fair bit cheaper, although it lacks
the configuration software of the 1542C (you have to make all
configuration changes by changing jumpers). The 1542B is apparently
less sensitive to SCSI termination problems and bad cables than the
1542C.
You'll need a SCSI cable (one with a male Centronics connector on one
end to connect to the 1542 and the appropriate connector for your CD-ROM
drive on the other). Does the NEC have a terminator switch? If so,
you enable the terminator (assuming the CD-ROM is the only external SCSI
device you have). If it doesn't have switchable termination or an
internal terminator, you need a terminator to go on the other connector
on the CD-ROM drive. Active terminators tend to work better than
passive terminators; you can order a passive terminator (and a SCSI
cable, for that matter) from CS Electronics at (714) 259-9100. Follow
the directions in the Adaptec instructions for what to do with the
terminator on the card; on the 1542B, you leave the terminator
in place if you have external SCSI devices (such as the CD-ROM drive)
but no internal SCSI devices (such as a hard drive). If you have both
internal and external devices, you need to remove the on-board terminator
(which, on the 1542B, are three chips with single rows of pins). The idea
is to have a terminator on each end of the SCSI chain, and no
terminators anywhere else.
The NeXTanswers notes for the 1542B and C describe the necessary
jumper settings. Be sure to check the NeXTanswers notes for any
equipment you'll be using. One piece of information that's not in
either note: you need to keep the BIOS Enable jumper installed.
The SCSI newsgroup has a FAQ you might want to check out. I learned
a lot from it.
Good luck!
Mitch Gass
mitch@mills.edu
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: NS/I Floppy support?
Message-ID: <1993Jul11.004845.274@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 00:48:45 GMT
I would like to know if anyone has gotten 3.1 to work with their
floppy drive, and if so was there some configuration you needed to do
to make it work?
I have been unable to read or initialize floppies.
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
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From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland)
Subject: Booting NS black with CD in Texel drive?
Message-ID: <1993Jul11.085143.1078@splunge.uucp>
Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 08:51:43 GMT
Well, it seems I spoke a bit too soon. I picked up a Texel 3024
CD-ROM drive today, and installed it in my external SCSI enclosure.
Everything seemed to work just ducky, so I posted over in the
CDPlayer.app thread to that effect.
Now I find out everything is not so great. It seems that I can't
boot my system with a CD in the drive. If I try, during the point
in the boot cycle where the various SCSI devices are identified and
(presumably) initialized, the floppy drive and both my hard disks
get successfully set up. Then I hear the CD-ROM click four times
or so; the Texel device does not appear in the list of SCSI devices,
but the boot sequence continues anyway.
If I happen to be trying to boot from the CD-ROM, say to install NS
3.1, things blow up when the boot process tries to mount the root
filesystem and doesn't have a CD-ROM device. The kernel panics and
everything halts. (Just for kicks, I tried installing NS 3.0 and it
does the same thing.)
I can get a little farther along if I don't insert the CD into the
drive until the "Waiting for drive to come ready..." message appears.
Then, after several SCSI error messages, the Texel and its CD are
recognized and the boot proceeds. However, when I answer all the
install questions, the install starts, gets past the "Writing
/usr/standalone/boot" message, and then hangs for awhile. Eventually,
things blow up with an endless sequence of "IO Error on pagein
(breadDirect)" messages (or something close). I have to kill the
install and reboot, leaving the NS 3.1 target disk half-baked.
If I'm not trying to boot from the CD-ROM, everything works okay,
except that I can't ever access a CD in the drive, since NS doesn't
know the drive exists.
I have tried the various jumpers on the drive, e.g. enabling and
disabling parity mode, dual spin mode, etc. I've switched SCSI IDs
and tried removing my main boot disk (a 1.2GB disk) from the SCSI
chain (I'm trying to put NS 3.1 on the slab's 105MB internal to
test 3.1 before trying it on my main disk).
The drive works fine if I don't boot with a CD in it. I can access
all of my software CDs, and I can play audio CDs.
Has anybody got a Texel drive working with NS on black hardware? I
have seen several posts recently from a gentleman who is having
trouble installing NS 3.1 Intel using a PC with a Texel drive. Dunno
if the two problems are related.
All suggestions appreciated; send mail and I'll summarize. Thanks.
--
Royce Howland, DKW Systems Corp. | "And since OS/2 2.0 is a 32-bit
Everything is IMHO | operating system, programs are
royce@splunge.uucp (NeXTMail OK) | easier to write and run faster,
or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce | too." -ad for OS/2 2.0
From: amlovell@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Anthony M Lovell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Bottom Line, please: Intel or black?
Message-ID: <1993Jul11.150240.280@Princeton.EDU>
Date: 11 Jul 93 15:02:40 GMT
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster
I need the bottom line.
Is a 66 MHz Gateway 66V with 24 MB & 2 MB ATI GUP & IDE disk going to
run NS/FIP better than a black 040 at 25 (or 33) MHz?
I have an order in on such a 486 and want to know if I should cancel
and buy used black instead. Also relevent: so far, how good has NeXT
support (3.1) been for the black hardware?
tony
(reply to tony@wildfire.com)
--
amlovell@phoenix.princeton.edu ...since 1963.
From: thor@sushi.uib.no
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Registering CallerID on a ZyXEL with NXFax???
Message-ID: <1993Jul11.171341.24992@alf.uib.no>
Date: 11 Jul 93 17:13:41 GMT
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Hi.
I have a ZyXEL U1496E and NXFax, and wondered about a few things.
NXFax currently does not support Caller ID function of the ZyXEL, but I
would like to register which numbers have called my modem. The standard
NXFax log gives only information for calls which are successful (i.e. it
gets the fax number of the calling machine from the remote machine). I don't
have an answering machine (I have am, but too bad it doesn't work with
NXFax :-( but registering the Caller ID would be almost as useful for me.
Additionally, I suspect (my paranoia :-) someone has been calling the
machine trying to log in... I know, I could just turn off data calls, but
I use it, and I would like to catch this individual, if it is really happening.
Below is the `standard' NXFax log. How hard would it be to write a script or daemon that went to the modem and got the caller ID info after such an entry
was logged, and logged it in a file? For a non-programmer...
I know the modem command AT*T returns the last Caller ID. Could a small script
watch over the ZyXEL log, and upon seeing the `ring 3' string (maybe `call
complete' would be more appropriate) wait some seconds, establish a connection
with the modem, issue AT*T and save the resulting string into a file with a
date/timestamp?
Would it maybe be better to find some way to log the Caller ID info directly
from the modem/program while NXFax is answering/looking for a remote fax?
As a non-programmer, I assume that the above is certainly perhaps the most
difficult way to accomplish what I want, so if anyone (who knows what they
are talking about :-) has any suggestions or tips, I would welcome them.
BTW - NXFax is an incredible program - I am 100% pleased with their product,
service, and support!
%> NXFax: ZyXEL modem
%> NXFax: U1496E V 6.01 M
%> NXFax: wait for incoming call
%> NXFax: activity on port Tue Jun 22 15:30:17 1993
----------NXFax Driver Version 1.03a----------
%> NXFax: Tue Jun 22 15:30:19 1993
%> NXFax: incoming call
%> NXFax: wait for connect
%> NXFax: ring 2
%> NXFax: ring 3
%> NXFax: carrier not found on line
%> NXFax: call complete
---------------------------------------------
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | "This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..."
University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors
NORWAY | edmtl@edb.uib.no
From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: empty socket on V0.0 mono slab baords
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 13:34:51 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ggE4wvH0BwyO84Col=@transarc.com>
What's that square socket near the 040 on a mono CPU board for? I saw
this while adding memory ... thanks for answering the (simple) question.
--
Ward C. Travis Pittsburgh PA USA "The fact is the sweetest dream that
travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: cleaning/replacing/reconditioning cube's OD filter?
Message-ID: <CA0MJq.FwF@sounds.wa.com>
Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <OLSTAD.93Jun30153305@kl.msc.edu>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 19:38:14 GMT
Ken Olstad writes
| The filter for the optical disk drive on my NeXT cube is getting
| pretty dirty. I'd like to replace just the filter material itself,
| but don't know just what material it is, or where to get such
| material. Does anybody know?
I can't answer your question directly, but what about vacuuming out the filter
instead of replacing the material? The local University of Washington service
center suggests this, although I would hesitate to recommend it as any kind of
"official" procedure since I have such limited knowledge/experience.
Logically, it seems like you could just use the vacuum to force air in the
opposite direction the filter is normally used - this should clear enough dust
from the filter so that the original air flow is (nearly) restored. As long as
you are careful not to damage the filter, it should still provide safe
protection for the OD.
Just my few $.01's worth.
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE, NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Experiences with Maxtor MXT-1240S in a NeXTstation?
Message-ID: <CA0n4y.GAw@sounds.wa.com>
Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <384@gouche.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 19:50:58 GMT
Grant J. Munsey writes
| The Maxtor MXT-1240S is available from NCA in San Jose for $1239. 3.5", 256K
| cache, 8.5ms access, 3 year warranty. Does anyone have this working on in a
| 25MHz slab and is there a better price around. This drive is supposed to be
| really quiet and have an awesome transfer rate.
I have an MXT-1240S as the boot drive installed in my NeXTdimension. With the
large NeXTcube fan blowing directly on it, I don't notice an extraordinary
amount of heat. However, a local friend installed the same Maxtor drive in his
Turbo Color Station and has noticed that it runs very hot. He may have even
needed to beef up the fan, I'm not sure. On a positive note, he has had the
drive longer than I've had mine, and I haven't heard any horror stories of
failure.
Someone else mentioned a high pitch whine. Mine has this (or something is my
setup does, other than the monitor), but it isn't very loud at all. It is
still quieter than any other drive in my experience.
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE, NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: NeXTdimension Turbo recommendations
Message-ID: <CA0o5p.H41@sounds.wa.com>
Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 20:13:01 GMT
What is the general consensus on the speed improvement provided by upgrading a
25 MHz '040 dimension to a 33 MHz Turbo motherboard? I assume it would be
quite difficult at this point to get a NeXTcube Turbo motherboard, but if I
were to find one, I'd like to know what to expect.
Are there any new problems when running a NeXTdimension board along with the 33
MHZ NeXTcube Turbo motherboards? How much faster is the machine given similar
RAM and drive configurations? Basically, would upgrading my main board from 25
MHz to 33 MHz be a major hassle (negative performance), a waste of time (no
change), a small improvement, or a vast improvement?
Thanks for any experience (e-mail preferred, I will provide a summary if there
are interesting responses).
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE, NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
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From: Jim_Brownfield@radical.com (Jim Brownfield)
Subject: How do you set two stop bits on a serial port?
Message-ID: <1993Jul11.212340.314@Radical.Com>
Sender: jbrow@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 21:23:40 GMT
This is probably a really stupid question (at least I hope it is), but I
haven't been able to find a solution.
How can you set a serial port on NS/FIP for two stop bits (CSTOPB in
POSIX/System 7)? There are POSIX calls to do it (tcsetattr), but there is no
way to build a POSIX application in 3.1 (at least according to the release
notes, and I can't find a library with this call - also, there doesn't seem to
be a way to set stop bits in 3.1's expanded ioctl's). The device I'm talking
to has no adjustments and requires 8 bits/two stop bits (so there's no faking
it with 7 bits and a bogus 8th bit).
I can't believe there wouldn't be a way to set this, but I can't find it. And
I don't mind feeling really stupid when someone points out the obvious answer
:-).
Thanks, in advance, for your help.
--
Jim Brownfield (Jim_Brownfield@Radical.Com) NeXTmail accepted
Radical System Solutions, Inc.
rad i cal \'rad-i-kel\ n -- a basic principle: FOUNDATION
From: dickw@stan.xx.swin.OZ.AU (WEST R)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dell DGX & NeXT 21" Colour Monitor
Date: 12 Jul 93 00:36:29 GMT
Organization: Swinburne University of Technology
Message-ID: <dickw.742437389@stan>
Summary: Connecting a Dell DGX to NeXT Colour Megapixel 21" Monitor
Keywords: NeXT Megapixel 21" Dell DGX
After being forwarded a post on 21" Monitors and DGX's I ordered a DGX on
my trip to NeXTWorld Expo. Unfortunately, I can get no sensible responses
from NeXT or Dell on how to hook these up. Apparently NeXT had a Megapixel
driver on 3.1 PR2 but took it out at the last minute! The original posting
I was given talked about putting sync on green (as the VGA connector has
Horiz & Vert sync separate).
Please - could anyone help me either with a wiring description/diagram
to connect VGA from DGX to a 21" Monitor (it is an ADB one) or with details
on where I can get the Megapixel driver (will it still work with the final
release of 3.1) ? I'm getting a bit frustrated using 640x480 2-bit grayscale
at the moment (i.e. I'm not really using the computer at all!).
P.S. A similar posting may have been put out about a week ago by a friend
but I received no responses (our news feed was down). If anyone has a
_definite_ solution could you please also mail me so I get it just in case
something happens with our news again.
P.P.S. Sorry if this is posted twice but I got 'article not posted' when I
tried to post this from another machine (makes me suspicious of our news
programs!).
Thanks in advance,
Richard West dickw@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au
Swinburne University (NeXT-Mail welcome)
From: ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Dodamani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DBKit: Data not being sorted - Solved
Date: 12 Jul 1993 01:31:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <21qetn$5th@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
The problem:
Data retrieved from the database was not being sorted, even though I
specified the sort order using "addRetrieveOrder: for:"
Solution as pointed out by Art Isbell:
In your FetchGroup delegate:
// Set the sort order before the actual fetch.
- fetchGroupWillFetch:aFetchGroup
{
[[aFetchGroup recordList] addRetrieveOrder:DB_AscendingOrder
for:sortProp];
return self;
}
The sort order is set just before fetching, so if you set it too early, it
gets reset to the default which is no retrieve order.
Thanks to all who responded.
Ramesh
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: Which monitor better Nec or Nanao?
Message-ID: <1993Jul11.112649.438@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
References: <385@gouche.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 11:26:49 GMT
In article <385@gouche.UUCP> grant@Manticore.COM (Grant J. Munsey)
writes:
>
> I have a choich between a Nanao F750i and a Nec 6FG. Any comments
about
> which would be better for a color NeXT system?
> ----
> Grant Munsey, Mainticore, Inc., (408)252-1135, fax: (408)446-9355
> grant@manticore.com or uunet!ub-gate!gouche!grant
I am using the 6FG on a clone system and it is beautyful! I believe
it will synch at higher resolution and keep the high refresh rate
whereas the Nanao needs to drop the refresh rate to get to maximum
resolution, but otherwise I have heard good things about it also.
The choise comes down to seeing them.
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
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From: gerry@wright.iba (Gerry Brush)
Subject: Headless NeXTstation? How?
Message-ID: <1993Jul12.114644.23188@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 93 11:46:44 BST
I have a spare NeXTstation (25MHz, NS3.0) which I would like to use as
a small server, but running without its monitor and keyboard. Is this
possible, ie is there any danger to the power supply, etc, if the
monitor is not connected? If it is possible to do this, then how does
one set it up? One problem, for instance, is how does one turn the
machine on if the keyboard and monitor are not connected?
Thanks,
Gerry Brush
brush@vax.ox.ac.uk
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: HELP = read error on Next partition in NS/I
Message-ID: <1993Jul12.133556.761@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 93 13:35:56 GMT
How do I boot from the NS/I CD in standalone mode?
I need to run fsck on my NS/I partition and if possible repair it or
just reinstall the boot/kernael files.
Any help appreciated.
Please us e-mail or if possible voice mail.
---
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
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From: pdc4d@amsun29.apma.Virginia.EDU (Philip D. Crow)
Subject: Re: Black System Disk Won't Boot
Message-ID: <CA23M1.7D2@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 14:44:24 GMT
Thanks to all who replied to my plea for help. Many people gave
good advice. In the end a person in the computer center at my
university built my external disk, making it bootable, which solved
the problem. Setting its SCSI device number to 0 caused my slab to
use it as the boot device. This is the easiest way to go, if you
have another external hard disk handy.
The other solution which people suggested was to build a bootable
floppy using a script from the archives. archie -c BootFloppy
delivers this reference (among others)
Host sonata.cc.purdue.edu
Location: /pub/next/3.0/src
FILE -rw-r--r-- 12589 May 28 18:09 BootFloppy3.0.tar.Z
as pointed out by Magnus Nordborg <magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU>
The scripts which come out of that tar REQUIRE root privilege. I did
not try this solution.
Thanks again to all who replied (and to Pete if he's listening).
Phil Crow
pdc4d@virginia.edu
Part of my original post follows (in case you are wondering what I'm
talking about).
> This is a posting of desperation. Yesterday I was arranging disks
> on my slab (adding one for more storage). During the file moving
> I inadvertantly copied over some files in the root directory (including
> but not necessarily limited to the total destruction of \bin).
> Not realizing the gravity of the problem, I turned the machine off and
> now it won't boot.
[stuff deleted]
> System:
> Mono Turbo
> 8Meg RAM
> 234MEG internal system disk (the one that won't boot anymore)
> 203MEG external drive (not bootable)
> Running: NS 3.0
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From: kunal@passion.pilot.dmg.ml.com (Kunal Singh)
Subject: Re: Experiences with Maxtor MXT-1240S in a NeXTstation?
Message-ID: <CA22Bp.7oK@tigadmin.ml.com>
Sender: kunal@passion (Kunal Singh)
Organization: Merrill Lynch Debt Markets Group
References: <384@gouche.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 14:16:37 GMT
In article <384@gouche.UUCP>, grant@Manticore.COM (Grant J. Munsey) writes:
|> I have a net impaired friend who has this question about disks for
|> NeXTstations:
|>
|> The Maxtor MXT-1240S is available from NCA in San Jose for $1239. 3.5", 256K
|> cache, 8.5ms access, 3 year warranty. Does anyone have this working on in a
|> 25MHz slab and is there a better price around. This drive is supposed to be
|> really quiet and have an awesome transfer rate.
|>
|> This joke is offered in payment for information:
|>
|> Q. What is the difference between IBM and Jurassic Park.
|>
|> A. One is a high-tech theme park dominated by dinosaurs.
|> The other is a Stephen Spielberg movie.
|>
|> ----
|> Grant Munsey, Mainticore, Inc., (408)252-1135, fax: (408)446-9355
|> grant@manticore.com or uunet!ub-gate!gouche!grant
I recently installed this drive for my Next Mono 25MHz. Works fine. I'm satisfied with its performance although I haven't done any benchmarks. All I know is that it seems faster than my Seagate 760 MB 15ms.
I got it for about the same price.
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From: kunal@passion.pilot.dmg.ml.com (Kunal Singh)
Subject: Re: Experiences with Maxtor MXT-1240S in a NeXTstation?
Message-ID: <CA22Ey.7q6@tigadmin.ml.com>
Sender: kunal@passion (Kunal Singh)
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Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 14:18:34 GMT
In article <21oene$siu@agate.berkeley.edu>, mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass) writes:
|> >The Maxtor MXT-1240S is available from NCA in San Jose for $1239...
|> >...is there a better price around.
|>
|> I found one for $1099 at Pixel USA in San Jose. Their number is
|> (408) 929-7218. Unfortunately, mine is not silent; it makes a high-
|> pitched whine, but it seems to be getting quieter as it settles in.
|>
|> Mitch Gass
|> mitch@mills.edu
Is that in an external subsystem or bare-drive ?
Just wondering because I paid something close to $1200 as well for this drive in an external configuration.
From: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/I Floppy support?
Date: 12 Jul 1993 17:22:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
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References: <1993Jul11.004845.274@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Originator: apl@santos.doc.ic.ac.uk
In article <1993Jul11.004845.274@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>, harit@kripalu.com writes:
|> I would like to know if anyone has gotten 3.1 to work with their
|> floppy drive, and if so was there some configuration you needed to do
|> to make it work?
|>
|> I have been unable to read or initialize floppies.
|> --
|> Michael Allen Latta
|> Kripalu Center
|> harit@kripalu.com
|> (413)448-3288
On my system with a combination floppy drive (both 3.5 and 5.25 in same unit)
the floppy worked first time with the configuration out of the box. Even though
the manual said to disconnect the second floppy.
Ari
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Subject: Next LaserPrinter compatible Paper Trays?
Message-ID: <1993Jul12.182251.5850@digifix.com>
Sender: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 18:22:51 GMT
Well, after 2 and 1/2 years of heavy use, I need to change the toner in my
NeXT laser printer. I figured it was a good time to ask about compatible
Laser Printer products..
What "off the shelf" toner cartridges fit this printer?
What "off the shelf" paper trays fit?
I think I am OK for toner, I didn't expect it to last this long, and bought
4 boxes of it when I bought the printer... does this stuff have an expiry date?
--
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From: fasano@nic.cerf.net (Christopher G. Fasano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Imagewriter II and NS 3.1
Date: 12 Jul 1993 21:37:48 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer
Message-ID: <21sljc$cn3@news.cerf.net>
Hello,
I have been trying to get an imagewriter working on my NeXTStation,
and I just can't seem to get it to print ANYTHING. I am using iwf-2.0
and I believe that I have the correct printcap entry and cable. Now I
am beginning to wonder if iwf-2.0 doesn't work with NS 3.1. Has anyone
tried this. I heard some noise on the net about serial ports being
"broken" under 3.1... Is this what I am seeing? Is there a newer
version of iwf?
Please respond to fasano@scarolina.cerfnet.com
Thanks!
Chris Fasano
Dept of Chemistry and Physics
Francis Marion Univ.
Florence, SC 29501
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From: jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory)
Subject: Status of AST/ATI 68800 driver?
Message-ID: <1993Jul13.012312.559@proforma.com>
Sender: jgg@proforma.com
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Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 01:23:12 GMT
We have an AST Premmia 466/d here that is running NS in 640x480 2-bit
grayscale. This is one of the machines that is listed as "Driver
Update Required" in the NeXT hardware compatibility guide.
Does anyone in a similar situation know what the status of driver
support for this configuration is? We are willing to beta test a
driver if necessary.
Is there anything I can do to get other resolutions and/or color
combinations? I really expected to get color at least, and we need
it to test the color code in our system. I am currently running the
"Default VGA Adapter" as described in Configure.app. Is there
anything else I can try?
By the way, this was another case of "PC vendors are all liars and
cheats". At least their salesmen are. Installation was a breeze
once the hardware was what NeXT said would work, but getting that
from the vendor, who claimed all kinds of stuff about how expert they
were in NeXTSTEP, was the real chore.
--J Gregory
From: hacker@access.digex.net (Dark Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do you set two stop bits on a serial port?
Date: 12 Jul 1993 22:16:24 -0400
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Message-ID: <21t5to$3lt@access.digex.net>
References: <1993Jul11.212340.314@Radical.Com>
In article <1993Jul11.212340.314@Radical.Com> Jim_Brownfield@Radical.Com writes:
>
>This is probably a really stupid question (at least I hope it is), but I
>haven't been able to find a solution.
>
>How can you set a serial port on NS/FIP for two stop bits (CSTOPB in
>POSIX/System 7)? There are POSIX calls to do it (tcsetattr), but there is no
>way to build a POSIX application in 3.1 (at least according to the release
>notes, and I can't find a library with this call - also, there doesn't seem to
Can't this be done by pumpping physical strings into the port and letting
the driver change its settings. As I recall to change the parity and stop
bits for UUCP I send something like "NO_PARITY" into the port and the driver
acts accordingly. Wierd. I don't recall where its documented if at all.
- Hacker
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Subject: HP 97548S and Wren IV jumper block config and booting difficulties...
Message-ID: <TSPENCER.93Jul12141418@gribble.eecs.wsu.edu>
From: tspencer@gribble.eecs.wsu.edu (Tim Spencer - EECS System Staff Slave)
Date: 12 Jul 93 14:14:18
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Hello! I have an HP 97548S 660 meg drive that I want to
become my root device because my normal Wren IV is having problems.
However, it is not working, causing the system to hang or have a nice
kernel panic no matter what I do. I believe that it is a termination
problem, and would be eternally grateful for a month or two if a kind
soul could send me the map of what the jumper blocks do on the HP, and
possibly what configuration you use on your HP drive if you boot off
of it as well!
Also, if somebody could send me the same info for the Wren IV, since
I'm going to have to move it external, and want to un-terminate it, I would
again be extremely happy! Thanks, and Have Fun!
--
Tim Spencer: junior somebody at WSU. With EECS Systems Support
I want Ethernet!! I like NeXT's!!
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From: dillon@moonshot.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which monitor better Nec or Nanao?
Date: 12 Jul 1993 20:52:16 -0700
Organization: Homeless Electron
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References: <1993Jul11.003351.3216@digifix.com>
In article <1993Jul11.003351.3216@digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
Anguish) writes:
:Grant J. Munsey writes
:>
:> I have a choich between a Nanao F750i and a Nec 6FG. Any comments about
:> which would be better for a color NeXT system?
:
:
: If you have the choice, the Nanao beats EVERYTHING hands down. While
:the NEC is certainly a good monitor, the Nanao has been reviewed VERY highly
by
:the PC magazines.
:
: I've been running a Nanao T560i for over a year on a color Slab and a
:PC and it is very easy on the eyes.
:
:--
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:sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
:next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
I have a Nanao as well.. F550i-W, and it works fine with an ATI card.
The Nanao monitors are also low radiative types.
-Matt
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: ZyXEL modem list wanted
Message-ID: <C9vqDr.3EA@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1993 04:13:03 GMT
This is a list I've had for a while it may be kind of old.
In article <1993Mar21.221844.6050@news.uiowa.edu>,
kgoodwin@icaen.uiowa.edu (Kirk W Goodwin) writes:
>DISCLAIMER: I have NO affiliation with any of the following companies
>nor
>ZyXEL although I DO believe that their modem is one of the finer
>available.
>ALSO, not all prices are necessarily current, nor is this the
>"definative"
>list of ZyXEL resalers. PLEASE email me any additions, corrections, or
>>updates to kgoodwin@icaen.uiowa.edu.
>
>PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION: Call around to some of the places and check
>about
>their "extra" charges and personal warranties. The lowest price does
>not
>necessarily mean the lowest cost. Some companies charge extra for
>credit
>card usage.
>
>Note: U1496 and U1496+ have been previously been called S and S+
>respectively.
>
>Company Phone Number U1496E U1496E+ U1496
>U1496+
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>--------
>ZyXEL List Prices (714)693-0808 469.00 649.00 899.00
>989.00
>ZyXEL USA Fax:(714)693-8811
>4920 E. LaPalma Ave (800)255-4101
>Anaheim, CA 92807
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>--------
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>--------
>Sparco Computers (601)323-5360 289.00 409.00
>609.00
>MS State, MS Fax:(601)324-6433
>mac1@ra.msstate.edu
>
>Athena Microsystems Inc. (415)962-8686 299.00 439.00
>629.00
>100 W.El Camino Real#68 Fax:(415)969-3361
>Mountain View, CA 94040
>tiger@netcom.com
>
>Greenfield Distributors (518)271-2473 310.00
>lingy@rpi.edu
>
>Software Resources Co. (619)743-4761 314.00
>CA Fax:(619)743 2417
>
>Golden Everstar (714)594-4168 325.00 435.00
>
>Kandy Shack (800)638-1170 329.00 469.00
>669.00
>12531 Strathmore Fax:(714)636-6970
>Garden Grove, CA. 92640
>
>SUNDOS Communications (800)955-5000 329.00 479.00 529.00
>699.00
>28083 Langside Ave. Fax:(805)251-7679
>Santa Clarita CA 91351
>76470.1105@CompuServe.com
>
>
>Micronet (800)729-8966 345.00 465.00
>645.00
>745 W. Lambert Road Fax:(714)671-1949
>Brea CA, 92621
>
>Magictek Computer (714)939-9220 345.00 485.00
>
>Eagle Computing (302)657-9303 345.00
>
>CTS (615)966-3667 348.25
>
>Boston Computers&Peripherals (617)551-0166 349.00
>
>The Questor Project (604)682-6659 350.00 450.00 520.00
>620.00
>Vancouver, BC
>system@questor.org
>
>WorldNet MicroSystems (510)770-1158 350.00
> Fax:(510)770-1159
>
>Micro City (attn. Roger) (619)689-0660 495.00
>8969 Kenamar Drive Fax:(619)689-0567
>San Diego, CA 92121
>
>Black & White Software (802)496-5113 ???.??
>
>HyTek Computers (206)456-7656 ???.??
>Hytec@cup.portal.com
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------
>ZyXEL (SYSOP PRICE ONLY) (800)255-4101 299.00 399.00
>
>--
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------+
>| Kirk Goodwin | * Thought of the Week * |
>kgoodwin@icaen.uiowa.edu |
>| 41 W.Burlington 221| There's a fine line be- |
>kirk-goodwin@uiowa.edu |
>| Iowa City, Iowa | tween fishing and standing | Grad. Biomedical
>Eng. |
>| (319)-339-0299 | on the bank like a fool. | University of Iowa
>|
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Next LaserPrinter compatible Paper Trays?
Message-ID: <CA2yCv.15C@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Jul12.182251.5850@digifix.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 01:48:30 GMT
In article <1993Jul12.182251.5850@digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
Anguish) writes:
#Well, after 2 and 1/2 years of heavy use, I need to change the toner in my
#NeXT laser printer. I figured it was a good time to ask about compatible
#Laser Printer products..
#
# What "off the shelf" toner cartridges fit this printer?
#
# What "off the shelf" paper trays fit?
The off the shelf toner you want is an EP-S cart. it's the same one that
fits the LaserJet II/III and the Apple LaserWriter.
Also the paper trays are the same as the LaserJet also.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: RAM question
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Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
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Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 01:35:10 GMT
In article <C9uyD3.AAp@sybase.com> brill@sybase.com (Michael Brill) writes:
#I know this is a FAQ (and I apologize to Nathan), but I've temporarily lost
#FTP access to the archives...
#
#What sort of SIMMs fit in a NeXTCube? Are they the regular 72 pin PC SIMMS?
#Actually if you could define them in terms of what Mac or PC they go in that
#would be useful (I, perhaps, can swipe some from a Mac or PC).
If it's not a Turbo regular 30 pin Mac (non-parity) or PC (parity) SIMMS
will work fine. I just put an additional 16 Megs in my machine for a total
of 28 on an '040 cube.
Kent
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Next LaserPrinter compatible Paper Trays?
Date: 13 Jul 1993 03:19:11 -0500
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <21tr6d$t6e@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1993Jul12.182251.5850@digifix.com>
sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes:
>I think I am OK for toner, I didn't expect it to last this long, and bought
>4 boxes of it when I bought the printer... does this stuff have an expiry date?
My HP brand toner cartridge that I got spare with my printer did
indeed have an expiration date. I am currently about a year past
that date and have just started the toner. It seems to be working
just fine. Hopefully it can't gum anything up if it gets too old.
(it wouldn't seem like it could...what it could gum up would be
replaced when you get a new toner cartridge)
It is amazing how long those carts last when you are the only person
using the printer.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
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From: jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope)
Subject: !!!! NeXT goes belly up !!!!
Message-ID: <1993Jul13.121907.1386@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Sender: news@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 12:19:07 GMT
JUST KIDDING. But I wanted to get your attention.
Does anyone have any experience using the ATI EISA card under NS/I. Since
it didn't "just work" I tried other numerous settings and other worthless
crap just trying to get the entire test program to display something but
the card still blanks my Nano F550i at resolution higher than 640x480.
I have removed all other cards from my system (Dell 450DE). I tried ATI
support but there closed by the time I can get home to play with my system.
I tried dell support and 1 guy said that another guy got it working by
disbaling the memory aperture in the ATI config but enabling it in the EISA
config, but that didn't work either. I also moved the memory aperture
location around and tried various power configurations.
PLEASE, PLEASE, if you know anyone or you personally have set up this card and
had it work please tell what you did, even if you didn't do anything. And if
you have this card working and can boot to DOS please run the install programs
diagnostics and tell me if everything came up OK, screen doesn't die at 1024x768,
because this means my card is most likely bad.
I am eagerly awaiting your reponse espicially if you have the answer to my
problem. If I can't get this working its back to OS/2 and another very
dissatisified customer of NeXT's fabulous service and support.
thanks
John Stanhope
PS. I know I've posted this before but so far nothing has worked and I get just
a little tired of this crap especially since everything I have is listed under
the compatibilty quide.
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From: t90yuan@mp.cs.niu.edu (yuan tzeng)
Subject: Again, Is Mistumi CDROM drive working with NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Jul13.184740.17027@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 18:47:40 GMT
I asked this question several days back and some of you folks
sent me some helpful message. Thanks. Most of the replies said
that "you just plug & play". Now I am going to order the new
PC. I need to double-check if this $199 Mistumi (IDE controller?)
will work with NS or not. Is there anybody who do use this
drive tell me something. Thanks again for any info.
--
[Tzeng Ruey Yuan] --yuan
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From: kramer@nx27.mik.uky.edu (mike d andrews)
Subject: CD-ROM recommendations
Message-ID: <kramer.742587985@mik.uky.edu>
Sender: news@ms.uky.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 18:26:25 GMT
At the risk of asking a frequently asked question (the FAQ's expired here..)
I've only caught bits and pieces of the threads on multispeed CDROM drives
and such, and as I'm in the market for a drive, I'd like some suggestions
on what would be good under $400 (rules out the Toshiba 3401 unfortunately,
unless someone actually sells one that cheap)... I was looking at the
Texel 3024 drive, but there was a post a few days back saying it couldn't
be booted from... I think there's a Panasonic and a Sony drive in the
same price range with about the same specs (multisession photo CD, etc)?
Email responses preferred.... (including the relevant sections of the FAQ,
if it's in there :)
--
Mike Andrews
root@fragile.termfrost.org [NeXTmail OK]
kramer@wittenberg.edu (school) "This guy's pretty bizarre, Gus."
kramer@mik.uky.edu (hometown) -- Primus
From: volks@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.CA (Lorraine Van Wingerden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pen-based computing for the NeXT ???
Date: 13 Jul 1993 15:51:35 -0400
Organization: The Ohio State University
Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <9307131946.AA03532@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca>
Hello,
Is anyone doing pen-based computing using NeXTstep
(either for Intel, or on black hardware)?
Is it possible?
I am interested in finding any information on any
hardware or software that supports pen-based computing
of any kind in the NeXTstep environment. Are there
any development supports?
I noticed that there is a tablet installer (InstallTablet.app)
on our system in /NextAdmin. Has anyone connected a tablet
to a NeXT system?
Thank you for any comments or information.
Lorraine Van Wingerden
(please send e-mail to volks@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca)
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From: shawnb@ecst.csuchico.edu (S.E.P. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTstep on 386?
Date: 13 Jul 1993 19:24:40 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
Message-ID: <21v25oINNed8@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>
I am thinking about running NeXTstep, and am wondering if it will run
on my AMD 386/40 with 387 with 16megs of RAM... I've seen that it will
run on 486sx/25 which is not a whole lot faster than the 386/40. Anyone
know about this?
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From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Subject: NEC CD ROM 74-1
Message-ID: <1993Jul13.210524.3279@cc.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 21:05:24 GMT
Can antone tell me if they have installed NSI
with a DPT 2012b/90 SCSI controller and the CD-ROM
drive mentionned above ? (1,2G SCSI HD)
I have a problem where the SCSI CD ROM works
well under DOS and Windows but will trash the
system when booting NIS installation.
I had the beta version working on the system
installed with a IBM CDROM drive. I bought that NEC
drive and it will not work.
I get: LUN 0 ID 0 errors with write failures
to the HD. (ID 0)
JM
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
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From: john@klein.Mines.Colorado.EDU (John Stockwell)
Subject: Faxmodems on NeXTStations (long)
Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Message-ID: <1993Jul13.204835.21412@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 20:48:35 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Keywords: faxmodems
By popular demand, I have distilled a summary of the information
from the majority of the mail messages that I received in response
my netpost "requesting information about faxmodems on
NeXTStations, posted 3 or 4 of weeks ago". This
post is not intended to be an advertisement for any particular
disk drive or subsystem manufacturer. I am not an employee,
or in any other way affiliated with any of the companies mentioned.
I have left the user's names in place but have deleted their e-mail
addresses to preserve their privacy.
-John Stockwell
Center for Wave Phenomena
Colorado School of Mines
Golden CO, 80401
john@dix.mines.colorado.edu
This first message gives a comprehensive list of Faxmodems:
sherlock forwards the following message from Sara Benson of NeXT
>>=====================================================================
>>
>>Attached below is a list of the fax modems known to work with NeXT
hardware
>>as of last October. I believe that HSD is no longer selling their
product,
>>but I think all the others are.
>>
>>B&W Software : NXFax__ high speed data v.42 bis. Automatically switches
from
>>data to fax mode and back. 802-496-8500
>>
>>Dove Computer Corporation : DoveFax-9600 baud fax modem and 2400 baud
data
>>modem. 1-800-622-7627 or 919-763-7918
>>
>>HSD Microcomputer, Inc. : FaxMaxter 24/96 X-2400 baud data and 9600 baud
fax
>>modem bundled with OCR Servant. 415-964-1400
>>
>>Neuron, Inc. : Neuron Fax 1414-9600 baud Fax, v.32bis data (up to 38,400
bps)
>>mode; autoswitching between fax and data. Neuron Fax 1414+-also supports
4
>>wire leased line systems and front panel programming. 609 243 7538.
>>
>>Visual Understanding Systems, Inc : Fax Modem VS-24-9600 baud fax modem
that
>>can vector call to a fax machine if busy. 412-488-3600
>>
>>Additionally, I saw information on the net in February regarding Total
System
>>Software's product DFax, which is the software driver to work with the
>>SupraFAX modems. My notes say it is being shipped by Complete Computer
>>Solutions Inc. (CCSI), who can be reached at 1-800-452-7608. This
company
>>may also be known as Alembic Systems International (both companies have
the
>>same phone number and address in my notes).
>>
>>I have no recommendations on what the best choice is. I have been using
an
>>Abaton fax modem for the last two years, but they are no longer being
>>manufactured. I haven't had an opportunity to evaluate any of the other
>>products. I hope that this at least gives you a jump start in your
search.
>>Good luck!
>>
>>Sara Benson
>>NeXT Computer, Inc.
>>
One user was satisfied with the Supra Faxmodem:
>Tom writes:
>
>I saw your post and want to say that the best two modems to get for
>this purpose are the Supra Fax Modem or the Zyxel. Both run at 14.4
>data/FAX and both work "out of the box" with stations. I personally have
>the Supra and the DFAX software and they work absolutely flawlessly, and
>I know several others in the same boat. The Zyxel seems to have a
somewhat
>better reputation overall, but as I say, my Supra works perfectly :)
>
>You should be able to get either one for about $300 for the modem, and
the
>corresponding software is about $125. I have information on all of this
and
>can send it to you (the DFAX people are located in Denver, which might be
>convenient for you) if you want.
>
However, the big winner among users apparently is
the ZyXEL U-1496-E with NXFax (Black and >White Software).
>=====================================================================
>
>Thor Legvold writes:
>
>I bought a ZyXEL and NXFax bundle from Blac&White Software.
>It costs $600 and was worth every penny. You _can_ get a
>ZyXEL for under $300, NXFax is around $150, and you need a
>cable, but the support is excellent, ZyXEL bug fixes/patches
>are released the moment they are made, and they are made the
>moment someone reports them. Unknown to many, ZyXEL E and S
>models (most) can be upgraded (a simple hack at home with a
>soldering iron :-) to a plus model pretty easily. But I did'nt
>reccommend that you do this!
>
>From what I found on comp.dcom.modem (reccommended reading),
>nothing beats the ZyXEL, and you should avoid modems with the
>Rockwell chipset - they have BIG problems (ex. Supra...)
>
>Andreas Mueller writes:
>
>ZyXEL U-1496E+, got one in Switzerland for sfr 950, divide by
>two to get approximate prices for the US. Wonderful maching,
>works perfectly for Fax and UUCP.
>
>need NXFax for faxing: absolutely great software, especially
>version 1.03 (runs only on NS3.0, on NS2.1 You need 1.02)
>
>Make sure You get proper cable: the wiring in descibed in the
>NeXT docu is a must, Mac modem cables won't work.
>
>Charles C. Lloyd writes:
>
>A very popular brand for NeXT is the ZyXEL U-1496-E with NXFax (Black and
>White Software). I got my modem from Sparco Computers 1-601-324-7324.
>
>Art Isbell writes:
>
>ZyXel U1496E and NXFax software. The hardware-software package is
available
>for $600 from B. & W. Software (nxfax@bandw.com, I believe). The
software is
>$135 alone and you can probably find the modem for less than $465, but
you
>won't have the same level of support. However, the NXFax software takes
care
>of all modem configuration issues, so it is really plug-and-play.
>
>Danny Tomasevich writes:
>
>that the ZyXEL 1496E is a good buy. Made in USA, upgradeable, 5 year
>warranty.
>It is a 14400 data, 14400 fax modem with LED indicators. ZyXEL makes them
>in black/white; supports Caller-ID if your local phone company offers it.
>
> ZyXEL has ads in BYTE, and at the factory they sell it for $469.
>But there are dealers that sell it for $350 or less. Netters say: just
plug
>and play. The ZyXEL 1496 PLUS has a LCD display and goes for $600.
>Here is the company address. When I called, they were very quick to send
>brochures about their products.
>
> ZyXEL USA tel.(800) 255-4101
> 4920 E. La Palma Avenue (714) 693-0808
> Anaheim CA 92807 fax (714) 693-8811
>
> Last week I was at NeXTWorld Expo, and saw both versions of ZyXEL
>modems. NeXT has built-in fax capabilities, but modem companies still do
>not have a standard yet. So regular modems made buy Intel, Hayes, Supra,
>Practical Peripherals, Telebit, Boca,... will not work as fax modems.
>For the data part - they all should work OK with NeXT.
>
> DOVE and HSD have worked with NeXT and their fax modems should
work
>out of the box with NeXT.
>
> I stopped buy the NX Fax booth at the expo. NX Fax makes a fax
driver
>(software) to work with ZyXEL 1496 modems, and are selling it for $135.
>I found this explaination of the NX Fax staff person interesting:
>
>"We make a driver for the ZyXEL modem, that uses the NeXT built-in fax
>capabilities. So our product does not completely replace the NeXT
built-in
>fax, just makes use of it."
>
>Black & White Software makes the NXFax. A demo can be found on the NeXT
>archive sites purdue.edu ; cs.orst.edu
>
>Black & White Software (802) 496-8500
>Bridge Street Marketplace fax (802) 496-5112
>Waitsfield VT 05673-1210 email nxfax@bandw.com
>
> 14400 data/fax modems go start at $300 and up, so I think ZyXEL is
>a good buy, considering all it offers. But I don't know how much money
>you intend to spend. I don't own a ZyXEL.
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From: john@klein.Mines.Colorado.EDU (John Stockwell)
Subject: 1.2 GB diskdrives on NeXTStations
Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Message-ID: <1993Jul13.205020.20771@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 20:50:20 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Keywords: diskdrives
By popular demand, I have distilled a summary of the information
from the majority of the mail messages that I received in response
my netpost "requesting information about 1.2GB diskdrives on
NeXTStations, posted 2 or 3 of weeks ago". This
post is not intended to be an advertisement for any particular
disk drive or subsystem manufacturer. I am not an employee,
or in any other way affiliated with any of the companies mentioned.
I have left the user's names in place but have deleted their e-mail
addresses to preserve their privacy.
-John Stockwell
Center for Wave Phenomena
Colorado School of Mines
Golden CO, 80401
john@dix.mines.colorado.edu
>Jonathan Kruger writes:
>
>Maxtor MXT-1240 ------ Check out Computer Shopper for the best price.
>
>John B Salomon writes:
>
>I use Micropolis 2112 SCSI drive in my 25 MHz slab. The slab recognizes
>the drive and it works fine -- just plug and play with NS3.0. I got the
>drive from East Coast Electronics for $1,450.00. I noticed in the recent
>issue of Processor that they have the drive for $1,050.00.
>If you are not familiar with this drive some of the specs are 10ms
>average seek, 5yr warranty, fast SCSI-2, 300,000 MTBF.
>East Coast's numbers are 508.683.0339, 215.431.9777,
>or 713.821.8366. The 508 (Mass.) area code is the office I called.
>They have a technical support group at 215.431.1527 and they are a
>pretty cool bunch. One other item, the 2112 drive is 1.2 Meg and formats
>down to 1.05 Meg.
>
>
>Robert Frank writes:
>
>I've installed two types: one is a DEC 3.5" 1GB drive (DSP3105S) and the
>others were Seagate 3.5" 1GB drives (Seagate st11200N).
>
>Prices? The DEC drive was bought in New York (8 months ago), cost me
>$1800.00. it's bound to be cheaper now! The others were bought here in
>Switzerland. It is now possible to get 1GB drives for 2000 swiss franks,
>approx. US$1300.
>
>Buy from: any dealer with reasonable service (not that you'l need it, but
it
>does help in case of problems!) and reasonable prices.
>
>Ease of installation: IMPORTANT: get the specs sheets so that you know
where
>the jumpers are and how to configure them, you'll NEED that - and most
(US)
>vendors won't ship the specs with the drives! The rest is simply plug and
>play.
>
>You can put a 3.5" drives into the slab replacing the one delivered with
the
>machine (my slab is now noticably quieter with the DEC drive).
>
>To install internally, the drive MUST have the terminators in place and
MUST
>provide termination power. If you want to keep the standard
configuration,
>set the SCSI id to 1. For external installation, NO drives should provide
>termination power and only the LAST drive on the chain MUST provide
>termination. An external disk with a SCSI id of 0 will be used as primary
>boot device. All external devices MUST be powered before the NeXT is
turned
>on.
>
>Formatting (assuming you are running 3.0): If the disk isn't already soft
>formatted for either NeXT or Mac, the automounter will ask whether to
format
>or not. You can specify yes here and the disk will be (soft) formatted
and
>mounted under the user who formatted. If it is already formatted, it will
be
>mounted immediately, where the Mac formatted disks will have an apple as
>icon...
>
>When letting the automounter mount the disk, all files and directories
will
>be of the person logged in - regardless of who wrote them to disk. To
make
>the disk a fixed disk, you must hard mount using the /etc/fstab and
reboot
>the system. NOTE: do not use the 'noauto' switch for any other than the
>primary (boot) disk!
>
>If you plan to install a system on the disk from CD rom, you may want to
let
>the installer format the disk.
>
>If you want to get the very last out of the disk, you will have to look
>around for disk utilities to (hard and soft) format the disk. I didn't do
>that as I didn't mind 'loosing' a few KBytes.
>
>
>Anand Mehta writes:
>
>I just bought a Quantum P1225. It is very fast <10ms and very quiet.
>I bought it from HDSS for a total of $1478 final price. The drive is a
>half height 3.5" unit, and the enclosure is very well made. I couldn't
>be happier.
>
>You might want to contact HDSS at 408-739-9010
>
>btw, that price was with next day shipping.
>
>
>Bob Love writes:
>
>..I bought a 1.2 G drive from R-Squared on Arapahoe Ave. They are local
>(for Colorado users) and quick. Maybe you can get better prices but they
>weren't that bad.
>
>
>Art Isbell writes:
>
>I ordered a DEC DSP3105 1.2 GB, 9.5 ms., 5400 RPM, 3.5" drive from Larry
>Cohen
>at Peripheral Solutions (800-ALL-DISK). I ordered it installed in a
small
>black single-drive case with voltage-adapting power supply, cooling fan,
and
>externally-settable SCSI address. The total a couple of months ago came
to
>around $1,400 plus shipping and tax (if any). Larry sells a Seagate with
>similar specs for about $100 less, but even though both have a 5-year
>warranty,
>DEC has a 48-hour warranty replacement policy whereas Seagate can take up
to
>2
>weeks, so I went with DEC.
>
>I'm happy with the drive. It makes a little more whirring sounds than my
>internal Maxtor 330 in my Cube, but then its spinning faster. Seek
sounds
>are
>like a rattling noise rather than the deeper, more muffled sounds made by
the
>Maxtor. I'm quite used to the change now and like the extra speed and
space.
>
>
>G. Philippe Menos writes:
>
>The best source I could find, recently, was the
>... Seagate 1.2 Gigabyte Disk Drive, with external case
>and cable for NeXTstation Slab. Price: $1540 from...
>
>Cube Route
>680 Kingman Avenue
>Santa Monica, CA 90402
>VOICE: 800-CUBERTE
>FAX: 310-459-6055
>
>Irving Wolfe writes:
>
>I've been happy with the Seagate 5.25" drives, mounted in a
>separate box. I wanted that so if a computer failed, it would be
>easy to move the big disk (which other machines on our network
>would be mounting and using) to a backup machine.
>
>Tony Maas writes:
>
>My story isn't complete, since I haven't received my drive yet, but I
>just ordered a 1.2G Fujitsu drive from Peripheral Solutions(I'm not sure
>where the company is).
>
>The more exact specifications are:
>
>1.2GB Fujitsu 3.5" HH 10ms SCSI-2 drive
>-- Not sure if this is formatted size, or how much smaller
> the size is if formatted
>5 year warranty
>$1235.00
>
>There are cheaper drives out there, and I'll give you a list at the end
>of this post, but the reason I bought this drive is because of the help
>I received from a guy named Don Miller - he always returned my phone
>calls as promptly as possible, plus he was knowledgeable about NeXTs in
>general. You can call Peripheral at 1-800-255-3475. You can get an
>external enclosure with power supply for about another $200, but instead
>I bought a black mini-tower case with power supply for around $90, so I
>can add other stuff later on (like another HD, CDROM, floppy,
>whatever...) I can't remember offhand what company I got that from,
>but it was in the Computer Shopper magazine. I could've gotten a
>mini-tower for about $50, but I wanted a UL-listed power supply(which
>most don't have), plus the black color isn't common, so I ended up
>paying more. I just couldn't resist getting it in black...
>
>Another note about Peripheral Solutions is that they might have 1.2G
>refurbished drives for $895 - full height Maxtor's with a 1-year
>warranty( you can buy a 5 year warranty for $100).
>
>Here's a list of 1.2G drives from a company called Silicon Warehouse
>Hard Drives, at 1-800-347-4887:
>
> 1.2 Gig Maxtor Panther 13ms FH SCSI/SCSI-2 $969.oo
> 1.2 Gig Seagate ST41200N 15ms FH SCSI/SCSI-2 $969.oo
> 1.2 Gig Toshiba 12ms 3.5" HH SCSI/SCSI-2 $1059.oo
> 1.2 Gig Seagate ST11200N 11ms 3.5" HH SCSI-2 $1099.oo
> 1.2 Gig Maxtor 1240S 8.5ms 3.5" HH SCSI-2 $1169.oo
>
>A couple things about this company:
>
>-- It was near impossible getting someone to return
> my phone calls.
>-- The Maxtor drives only come with a 1-year warranty,
> although you can buy extensions(~$100 for 5 years)
>-- They don't package the drives into external cases for
> you - they recommend buying a mini-tower case
> for them.
>Robert E. Brown writes:
>
>I recently bought a Maxtor 1240 S from SAG -- they advertise in the back
of
>Mac magazines and other computer rags. The disk is probably the fastest
1.2
>Gb
>on the market today and only costs about $1200 or $1300.
>
>Bob Peirce writes:
>
>I just went thru this excersize and finally selected a DEC DSP 3105
>which I bought from Spin Peripherals in a box with power supply for
>$1099. A SCSI cable was $14. I also got a WangDat for $1199 if
>you are interested. The phone is 800-466-1200 and I talked to Chuck.
>I placed the order on a Friday and had it the following Tuesday
>(6/29/93). Very good.
>
>The next best deal I found was Alliance Peripherals at 800-233-7550.
>They had an Archive Python for $1149 and the Quantum drive for $1219.
>Acropolis at 800-735-4311 had the DEC for $1195.
>
>This being a week later, prices are probably down 10% :-).
>
>I had no problem with either and the DEC is now my boot drive. One
>thing. The drive is formatted with 512 byte sectors and I had no
>program to re-format it. I ended up with 1.05Gb. I am told that 1024
>byte sectors will give you more space, but you have to have a way to
>re-format the drive. With 330Mb in my Cube, I didn't worry too much
>about this. The disk program sets the drive up wityh 1024 byte logical
>blocks and tha was okay by me.
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From: clark@bruce.nist.gov
Subject: NeXT laser printer mechanical problem
Message-ID: <CA4L07.A0n@dove.nist.gov>
Sender: news@dove.nist.gov
Organization: NIST
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 22:55:18 GMT
My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - gets stuck
on the last 3/4 inch or so. Sheets can be pulled out fairly easily by
hand the rest of the way - they feel like they're caught in some
rollers.
Has anyone else had this problem and solved it ?
Charles Clark
National Institute of Standards and Technology
From: marc@alisa.ucla.edu (Marc Day)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Maxtor LXT340SY SCSI formats small
Date: 13 Jul 1993 23:11:02 GMT
Organization: ucla
Sender: marc@alisa (Marc Day)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <21vfe7$qi7@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Keywords: SCSI, format
The usual apologies if this is a FAQ in some other newsgroup, but here goes...
I just bought a new Maxtor LXT340SY. I saw this disk advertized to be 380
meg, formatting to 341 meg. But I just installed 3.0 NS using the default
formatter, and only got 324 meg out of it. Since the system stuff takes
~240 meg, I kinda need all I could get for installing all that neat NeXT
freeware (not to mention that I need space for my own work!).
The guy who advertized that it formats to 341 meg seemed well intentioned
enough. Am I missing some trick here? I found a freeware "formatter_2.0"
utility, that claims that it should give me a few more meg, but any
reformat is gonna take me another day to reinstall. Is this my best bet?
(and maybe blow my Mathematica license?)
Anyone with a clue?
Thanks,
(Email response please, my news access is limited.)
M
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University of California
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From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Third party monitors for NeXT Stations
Date: 13 Jul 1993 19:19:01 GMT
Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics
Message-ID: <21v1r5$nk@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
Yesterday, the 17" color monitor on our NeXT Color Station went out and a
call to those friendly folks at Bell Atlantic revealed that it would cost
a minimum of $950 to fix. Furthermore, according the Bell folks,
schematics for NeXT equipment will become available publically at some
point soon after hell freezes over.
In various postings, people have reported using third-party monitors with
their NeXT Stations (Nanaos seem to be a favorite). We would like to hear
from people who have had success with this. In particular we would like
to know:
a) What models will work with NeXT Stations (color or mono)?
b) What are their costs?
c) How does one obtain cables for hooking them up with a NeXT?
We have already replaced the monitor on our color slab once while it was
under warranty. We feel that it might be better to move to a different
brand, black case or no black case.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give us. Please reply to:
rlarson@semlab1.sbs.sunysb.edu
Richard Larson
Dept. of Linguistics
SUNY - Stony Brook
Stony Brook, NY 11794-4376
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From: sandman@well.sf.ca.us (W. Sanford May)
Subject: Re: Maxtor LXT340SY SCSI formats small
Message-ID: <CA4wxo.F8q@well.sf.ca.us>
Keywords: SCSI, format
Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
References: <21vfe7$qi7@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 03:12:59 GMT
Marc,
Very few manufacturers or resellers seriously promote their drives for black
NeXT hardware. Even fewer actually provide technical specs for NeXT.
There's a decent chance that you were quoted a formatted capacity for the
use of that drive on PC or Macintosh system. Different formatters for
different systems futz around in unique ways with low-level formats.
I don't know this as fact, but 324 meg could be the maximum rating for that
drive on a NeXT.
Sanford
sandman@well.sf.ca.us
From: altitude@css.itd.umich.edu (Alex Tang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Setting the speed of a serial port
Date: 14 Jul 1993 04:35:12 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - ITD Consulting and Support
Message-ID: <2202e0$4h2@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
Hi. I'm trying to set the speed of the serial port to use with a PCL printer
(Yes folks, a PCL printer). I'm trying to modify a deskjet filter for a PCL
laserJetIII. I'm having problems with just setting up the thing to be a line
printer. Should I use /etc/ttys? I don't knwo how to set that up? Thanx
all ...alex...
--
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U of M, SNRE: Student and Computer Consultant II
ITD/CSS Consultant and...General Fun Loving Guy :)
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From: pspriet@xlan.fdn.org (Paul Spriet)
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Message-ID: <1993Jul13.133456.5590@xlan.fdn.org>
Sender: news@xlan.fdn.org
Organization: X&LAN - Bordeaux, France.
References: <15745@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 13:34:56 GMT
In article <15745@blue.cis.pitt.edu> cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
writes:
> After my evangelizing here at the Library, we brought in an evaluation
copy
> of NS/FIP.
>
> We tested it out and after several installation quirks, got it running.
>
> However, it conks out after a period of a several hours on incoming IP
> packets. Not good.
>
> It is back in the box and on the shelf. Oh well, it was only $300.
>
> NeXT dropped the ball putting this release out for general consumption.
>
> It is UNUSABLE for network applications, the entire reason we are
> evaluating new operating systems. Unixware is back on the machine.
>
> C'est la NeXT!
>
I think that guys like you are UNUSABLE too !
If you not strong enough to test NeXTStep, and to evaluate it in good
conditions, please, don't do it and don't give us your feelings.
NeXTStep is a DREAM for network applications, and easy to install too.
Don't talk about NeXTStep anymore, that will save you from saying stupid
things.
Thanx.
>
> --
> ** Casey Palowitch - cjp+@pitt.edu UWSA #570881 **
> ** Networked Information Services Group / Technical Services **
> ** U. of Pittsburgh Library Systems // NeXTSTEP... **
> ** ...the most respected piece of software on the planet BYTE10/92 **
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From: dylan@angst.com (Dylan Kohler)
Subject: Hang during bootup
Message-ID: <1993Jul13.172044.592@angst.com>
Keywords: NBIC present hang reboot boot bootup
Sender: dylan@angst.com
Organization: Angst Animation Post Production
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 17:20:44 GMT
When I reboot my Turbo Cube w/ Dimension, the following hang occurs
regularly. It gets so far and then sits there:
init arg: -xx
kernel flag nbuf = 0x80
NeXT ROM Monitor 3.2 v72
NeXT Mach 3.1: Fri Apr 30 08:31:15 PDT 1993;
root(rcbuilder):mk-149.22.3.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
FPU version 0x41
physical memory = 64.00 megabytes.
available memory = 61.55 megabytes.
using 128 buffers containing 1.00 megabytes of memory
NBIC present
I have to actually cycle power on the machine to get it to boot properly.
During a normal boot, the next lines are:
fc0 at 0x2014100
Sony MPX-111N as fd0 at fc0 slave 0
I've checked internal cables to the hard and floppy drives, but they seem
secure. Does anyone have any experience like this? Any ideas?
Thanks in advance! I'll summarize.
--
=====================================================================
Dylan Kohler dylan@angst.com
Angst Animation Post Production (NeXTmail welcome)
From: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Quantum PD210S: low level format?
Date: 14 Jul 1993 09:18:02 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <220j0a$pg1@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Subject says it mostly. This disk, 200MB, shipped with most Next stations,
seems not to be formattable. In detail, sdform or disk -F state "illegal
iocommand". I also saw somewhere mentioned that newer Quantum drives are
shipped preformatted and cannot be formatted again.
Now a friend of mine is in luck to have a media error on his disk. As he
can't reformat it (initialize from the Workspace doesn't help, it is only
logically), he has to tell the operating system in another way how to
avoid the defect block. He found a program named reassignblock which works
quite well.
Now my question: What happens when too many blocks have to be reassigned.
To my knowledge the reserved tracks on the disk are very limited. You
can't reformat it either. Have you to throw it away then? (This case
didn't happen, good luck, but I am very interested what the experts out
there would do in such a case. Is it a solution at all to reformat the
drive?)
Answers are gladly excepted and will be summarized.
--
== Andreas ==
Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail
accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ian@its.com
Subject: Compaq QVision in 486 portable
Message-ID: <1993Jul13.222548.14261@its.com>
Sender: ian@its.com (Ian Gibbs)
Organization: Information Technology Solutions
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1993 22:25:48 GMT
Greetings,
Many thanks to all of you who have responded with help on the Compaq
memory question I posed last week. The answer turned out to be "make the
memory 'linear' rather than 'Compaq'"
The question this week: I've also got the QVision card installed within
this portable system. I should be able to use it to attach an external
monitor to get 1024 X 768 8 bit greyscale, right? When I try this, (using
the "Configure" program), I just get a bunch of static on the screen. It
looks pretty - in a psychadelic sort of way, but isn't very functional.
(There is no inteligable image whatsoever.)
Has anybody properly installed the Compaq QVision card?
Many thanks again,
Ian
--
Ian Gibbs
ian@its.com
Information Technology Solutions
NeXT/NEXTSTEP Consulting
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (david.k.kallman)
Subject: Dead Mouse - how to fix?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 12:11:16 GMT
Message-ID: <CA5Lv4.2t5@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Folks,
We have a dead mouse on a (slightly older than one year
old) Turbo Color Nextstation - it double clicks when
pressed once. How does one get a new one/get this one
repaired? Can Bell Atlantic help with this? Any other
ideas?
Thanks.
Dave Kallman
--
----
Dave Kallman, AT&T, 480 Red Hill Rd., Middletown, NJ 07748
d_k_kallman@att.com, (908)615-2989, fax: (908)615-2507
From: catapmsd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Matt Stephen DeBergalis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTstep on 386?
Date: 14 Jul 1993 13:12:38 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2210o6$q55@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <21v25oINNed8@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>
Keywords: NeXT
In article <21v25oINNed8@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>
shawnb@ecst.csuchico.edu (S.E.P. Brown) writes:
> I am thinking about running NeXTstep, and am wondering if it will run
> on my AMD 386/40 with 387 with 16megs of RAM... I've seen that it will
> run on 486sx/25 which is not a whole lot faster than the 386/40. Anyone
> know about this?
No can do. The NeXTstep operating system was designed for use with Intel
80486 chips and compatibles (including the upcoming AMD clone and the
Intel Pentium). Because of design differences between the 386 family and
486 family, the OS will not run on a 386. The speed here is not the major
concern.
Additionally, I have a feeling that it would be awful slow of a 386-40 or
a 486-25. I have seen this run, and the speed was pretty good on a
486DX2-50. I don't think I would want to run it with anything less than a
486DX-33.
Later - Matt DeBergalis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Photo CD Creation Question
Message-ID: <1993Jul14.113715.2156@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 93 11:37:15 GMT
Is it possible to have a photo CD made from prints or negatives? Or
do thay require slides?
If needed I can make slides from the prints but if I do not need
to...
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
From: ridgway@inls3.ucsd.edu (Doug Ridgway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is the ATI XLR compatible?
Date: 14 Jul 1993 16:17:56 GMT
Organization: Intstitute for Nonlinear Science, UCSD
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <221bjkINN6go@network.ucsd.edu>
Originator: ridgway@inls3
Hi,
I just ordered a Gateway 66V and found out that they are no longer
shipping with an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, but with an ATI XLR. The
salesman thought that the XLR was okay, but wasn't sure. A couple of
calls to Next left me running in circles.
Does anyone know if the ATI XLR is Nextstep compatible?
Is it superior to the ATI GUP?
Should I call Gateway back and ask to get the GUP instead?
Thanks,
doug.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Ivan Vesely)
Subject: Re: !!!! NeXT goes belly up !!!!
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 16:50:39 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jul14.165039.7621@julian.uwo.ca>
References: <1993Jul13.121907.1386@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
In article <1993Jul13.121907.1386@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu
(John D Stanhope) writes:
> JUST KIDDING. But I wanted to get your attention...
>
Let me guess. You talk about bombs in a loud voice when you're going through
the cow gates at the airport, right? We had a member of parlament who did the
same thing at an airport because he thought it was funny. Well, the next day
there was a big article in the paper that he got arrested and fined really big.
Now THAT was REALLY funny!
Ivan Vesely, Electrical Engineering and Medical Biophysics
University of Western Ontario, vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jon@afs.com
Subject: bare floppy drive in cube...
Message-ID: <1993Jul14.135646.1293@afs.com>
Sender: jon@afs.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 13:56:46 GMT
Anybody who has installed a bare 2.8 meg floppy in their cube, please email me.
I need some information.
Thanks,
Jon
--
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<jon@afs.com> I'll be writing more in a week or two.
I can make it deeper if you like the style,
I can change it round and I want to be an ObjectWare Writer
From: sean@digaudio.byu.edu (Sean Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dead Mouse - how to fix?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 14 Jul 1993 17:55:21 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <sean-140793174731@rm2221m6.cs.byu.edu>
References: <CA5Lv4.2t5@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
In article <CA5Lv4.2t5@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
(david.k.kallman) wrote:
>
>
> Folks,
>
> We have a dead mouse on a (slightly older than one year
> old) Turbo Color Nextstation - it double clicks when
> pressed once. How does one get a new one/get this one
> repaired? Can Bell Atlantic help with this? Any other
> ideas?
Actually, it's not too tough to do, if it's just the microswitches.
First off, does this happen with just one of the mouse buttons, or both?
If it's just one (or *possibly* both), it could be the microswitch.
If this is the case, then do this:
1) Go to your local electronics guru store and buy microswitches.
Ones that look just like the two switches on the NeXT mouse's board
should look fine. Except that the NeXT mouse has the little metal
levers on the microswitches removed. You can do that with a pair
of tweezers yourself, if you're careful.
2) Take out the board in your NeXT mouse. Heat up a soldering iron and
hold it against the tips of a microswitch so all six of 'em heat up
at once. BE CAREFUL NOT TO HEAT UP ANY OTHER PARTS!!!
3) When the tips have been heated for a bit, keeping the microswitch-side
of the board face-down, bap your arm holding the board against a table.
Inertia should pop the microswitch out. This is much easier than using
braid, etc., and MUCH cleaner. Just be careful not to break the board!
4) Solder the new microswitch in, in the same rotation as the old one.
5) Repeat for the second microswitch if needed.
OR, you could just go to your local computer guru, and
1) Give him these instructions.
Now, if it's something other than just the microswitch contacts (which
break quite often, I'm afraid), then it's a bit nastier. However, there is
a Logitech
to NeXT wiring for hooking up Logitech bus mice to a NeXT keyboard. I
don't
have it right now. Anyone?
So, anyway, there are solutions.
Oh, and I renounce any accountability, expressed or implied, for any
incidental or consequential damages resulting from the above suggestion.
Or whatever.
Sean Luke
sean@digaudio.byu.edu
From: pedja@midgard.cs.umd.edu (Pedja Bogdanovich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Recomendations for NS/I hardware
Message-ID: <PEDJA.93Jul14134734@midgard.cs.umd.edu>
Date: 14 Jul 93 17:47:34 GMT
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Can anyone suggest sources for NS/I platforms? I have the following
features in mind:
Motherboard: 486DX2/66, VESA-VL, EISA
Memory: 16MB (in 4MB simms)
Graphics Card: ATI Ultra Pro VLB w/2MB RAM
Floppy: 1.4MB 3.5"
HD Controller: DPT 2012B-90 or -95 SCSI (or Adaptec 1542C SCSI)
Mouse:
Keyboard:
Network Card: Intel EtherExpress 16
Case: Mid tower, 230W Power
Hard Disk: .5 to 1.2 Gig
Monitor: 17"
Thanks. Pedja
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: NEC CD ROM 74-1
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul14.172622.34575@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 17:26:22 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1993Jul13.210524.3279@cc.gatech.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <1993Jul13.210524.3279@cc.gatech.edu>, debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud) writes:
|> Can antone tell me if they have installed NSI
|> with a DPT 2012b/90 SCSI controller and the CD-ROM
|> drive mentionned above ? (1,2G SCSI HD)
|>
|> I have a problem where the SCSI CD ROM works
|> well under DOS and Windows but will trash the
|> system when booting NIS installation.
Don't sappose you could post what it puts out for messages when booting could you?
|>
|> I had the beta version working on the system
|> installed with a IBM CDROM drive. I bought that NEC
|> drive and it will not work.
|>
|> I get: LUN 0 ID 0 errors with write failures
|> to the HD. (ID 0)
Hmmm thinking about it.... what's the SCSI ID of your harddisk and of your CD-ROM?
Make sure your harddisk is SCSI 0. And then you CD-ROM drive can be anything above that...
|>
|> JM
|> debaud@cc.gatech.edu
--
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gypsy!servo@csn.org (home -- NeXTMail ok)
_________________________________________________________________________
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From: dyu@bacchanal.ee.ufl.edu (David Yu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: nextstation B/W monitors
Date: 14 Jul 1993 18:13:32 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Message-ID: <221iccINNjjr@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Keywords: monitors
Does anyone know if there are replacements available for the
black and white monitors for the nextstation/nextcube
thank you
From: dyu@bacchanal.ee.ufl.edu (David Yu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: nextstation B/W monitors
Date: 14 Jul 1993 18:13:40 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Message-ID: <221ickINNjjs@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Keywords: monitors
Does anyone know if there are replacements available for the
black and white monitors for the nextstation/nextcube
thank you
From: dyu@bacchanal.ee.ufl.edu (David Yu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: B/W Next Monitors
Date: 14 Jul 1993 18:15:58 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Message-ID: <221iguINNjkl@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Does anyone know if there is a replacement available for the B/W nextstation
monitors?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hamachi@adobe.com (Gordon Hamachi)
Subject: Re: Dead Mouse - how to fix?
Message-ID: <1993Jul14.191709.18922@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <CA5Lv4.2t5@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 19:17:09 GMT
david.k.kallman writes
>
> We have a dead mouse on a (slightly older than one year
> old) Turbo Color Nextstation - it double clicks when
> pressed once. How does one get a new one/get this one
> repaired? Can Bell Atlantic help with this? Any other
> ideas?
For starters, you can switch from left mouse button to right mouse button. Go
to your Preferences application, select the mouse, and set the menu button to
be the left mouse button. I had the same problem, and the right mouse button
works fine for clicking.
For a real solution, I have heard of people replacing the microswitches on
their mouse. Others have talked about drilling out the rivet on the
microswitch, squirting in some contact cleaner, and reassembling with a bolt in
place of the rivet.
--Gordon Hamachi
From: catapmsd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Matt Stephen DeBergalis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTstep on 386?
Date: 14 Jul 1993 21:56:33 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <221veh$sra@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Keywords: NeXT
I still don't think that NeXTstep will run on an i386 or lower, but
hey...you never know. Tell us what happens. Remember though, the i486 is
not just a souped-uip i386 with cache and coprocessor attached. It has a
number of new instructions, and I have the feeling that an operating
system written for use on an i486 would not work on a 386.
Why would the folks at NeXT want to eliminate those with 386's from
running their OS anyway? NeXT is not trying to sell 486 chips. Why limit
your market to just 486 and Pentium when you could also have the 386 base?
I doubt many people would use NeXTstep on a 386, but I suppose a 386-40
with a math co-processor would be acceptable.
On another note, don't you find it fascinating that NeXTstep fits on fewer
disks than OS/2. I am not cutting on OS/2 -- I think it's the best IBM
native system out there. But the folks at NeXT have really done something
good if they can get the best (opinion) OS for Intel-based systems on 19
disks.
later - matt debergalis
From: cse0075@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: UPS Trashes NeXT Printer?
Message-ID: <1993Jul14.211137.4812@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
Date: 14 Jul 93 21:11:37 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services
Dear NeXT netters:
I recently purchased a used NeXT Laser Printer (on its first toner
cartridge). However, when UPS delivered it, it made a rattling noise
which we think is coming from the drive motor. UPS contends that this
damage could not result from mishandling during shipping.
What is your opinion as to whether or not this damage could have
occured during shipment?
The UPS IS inspector theorizes that, in the two weeks between the
printer's last use and its arrival at my door, all the lubricant
in the drive motor magically disappeared, causing the motor to break.
The printer still prints fine although it is quite noisy. It should
arrive at Bell Atlantic tomorrow, so I will soon know the exact
problem.
Mark LaPlante
cse0075@uoft02.utoledo.edu (NeXTMail OK).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: Q: Adaptec 1520/1522 SCSI & NS/I ?
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.050922.6858@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 05:09:22 GMT
Any hope to get that above mentioned SCSI card to support CD-ROM drive
with NEXTSTEP for Intel to install that OS on AT/IDE hard disk?
My first impression was that it didn't work for me (but I didn't try
it that hard...).
-harri-
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///// Anonymous ftp site moderator at garbo.uwasa.fi (128.214.87.1)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 01:17:28 CDT
From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Message-ID: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on IBM Thinkpad?
Does anyone (everyone) know if NS will run on IBM's Thinkpad. Specifically
the color one - I think it's the 700C or something like that. My dad is sold
on the Thinkpad, and I might have him sold on NS - if it runs on it.
Sorry for the basic question, but I just don't know that much about the IBM's.
Thanks!
-tom nawara
nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu
ideaLABS
From: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Quantum PD210S: low level format?
Date: 15 Jul 1993 10:48:14 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <223cle$9ud@email.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <220j0a$pg1@email.tuwien.ac.at>
In article <220j0a$pg1@email.tuwien.ac.at> ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas
Haleger) writes:
>
> Subject says it mostly. This disk, 200MB, shipped with most Next
stations,
> seems not to be formattable. In detail, sdform or disk -F state "illegal
> iocommand". I also saw somewhere mentioned that newer Quantum drives are
> shipped preformatted and cannot be formatted again.
>
> Now a friend of mine is in luck to have a media error on his disk. As he
> can't reformat it (initialize from the Workspace doesn't help, it is
only
> logically), he has to tell the operating system in another way how to
> avoid the defect block. He found a program named reassignblock which
works
> quite well.
>
> Now my question: What happens when too many blocks have to be
reassigned.
> To my knowledge the reserved tracks on the disk are very limited. You
> can't reformat it either. Have you to throw it away then? (This case
> didn't happen, good luck, but I am very interested what the experts out
> there would do in such a case. Is it a solution at all to reformat the
> drive?)
>
> Answers are gladly excepted and will be summarized.
>
I have to followup to my own posting. Circumstances got worse. Now the
Next doesn't recognize the disk anymore when booting. The disk does not
make odd noises, so I beleive, it could be repaired by reformatting. Any
hints urgently needed.
BTW: Guarantee: The local dealer informed my friend that guarantee for all
parts of a Next is one year, although nearly all newer drives have
guarantees for at least 3 years, but Next just doesn't forward this to the
end user. Can anybody confirm this?
== Andreas ==
Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail
accepted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kunal@passion.pilot.dmg.ml.com (Kunal Singh)
Subject: Re: Maxtor LXT340SY SCSI formats small
Message-ID: <CA63oB.8x6@tigadmin.ml.com>
Keywords: SCSI, format
Sender: kunal@passion (Kunal Singh)
Organization: Merrill Lynch Debt Markets Group
References: <21vfe7$qi7@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1993 18:36:11 GMT
In article <21vfe7$qi7@news.mic.ucla.edu>, marc@alisa.ucla.edu (Marc Day) writes:
|>
|>
|> The usual apologies if this is a FAQ in some other newsgroup, but here goes...
|>
|> I just bought a new Maxtor LXT340SY. I saw this disk advertized to be 380
|> meg, formatting to 341 meg. But I just installed 3.0 NS using the default
|> formatter, and only got 324 meg out of it. Since the system stuff takes
|> ~240 meg, I kinda need all I could get for installing all that neat NeXT
|> freeware (not to mention that I need space for my own work!).
|>
|> The guy who advertized that it formats to 341 meg seemed well intentioned
|> enough. Am I missing some trick here? I found a freeware "formatter_2.0"
|> utility, that claims that it should give me a few more meg, but any
|> reformat is gonna take me another day to reinstall. Is this my best bet?
|> (and maybe blow my Mathematica license?)
|>
|> Anyone with a clue?
|>
|> Thanks,
|>
|> (Email response please, my news access is limited.)
|>
|>
The amount of space you have available for usage in a unix file system depends on several file system parameters. When 'newfs' creates a new file system, you can specify the partition density (#bytes/inode). Basically if you expect the partition to contain large files, you allocate fewer inodes by using larger density factors. If you expect the partition to contain many small files, you allocate more inodes by using a smaller density factor.
This can affect the space available on your new file system significantly.
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Bottom Line, please: Intel or black?
Date: 15 Jul 1993 12:06:44 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <223h8k$n00@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Jul11.150240.280@Princeton.EDU>
In article <1993Jul11.150240.280@Princeton.EDU>
amlovell@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Anthony M Lovell) writes:
#
# I need the bottom line.
#
# Is a 66 MHz Gateway 66V with 24 MB & 2 MB ATI GUP & IDE disk going to
#run NS/FIP better than a black 040 at 25 (or 33) MHz?
#
Yup. But it will run it at a lower resolution (1024x768) and the floppy
drives don't auto-sense and auto-eject the disks... And the "PC Style"
keyboards take a while to get used to (some keys are in different
locations). But other than that, I would go for intel hardware. There are
some other issues that may or may not concern you. For instance, we have
yet to find a way to get these intel machines to netboot (for diagnostic
purposes) or a way to prevent a user from entering single-user mode without
a password (i.e., there is not a "simulated" hardware password in the boot
manager, which really would be nice... NeXT pay attention) but we are
working on a hack to the boot manager...
# I have an order in on such a 486 and want to know if I should cancel
#and buy used black instead. Also relevent: so far, how good has NeXT
#support (3.1) been for the black hardware?
#
Another advantage of an Intel box: support and flexiblity.
#tony
#
#(reply to tony@wildfire.com)
#
#--
#amlovell@phoenix.princeton.edu ...since 1963.
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From: jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope)
Subject: ATI & Adaptec in a DELL ?
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.133537.1152@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
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Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 13:35:37 GMT
I heard that the ATI EISA card and the Adpatec scsi card are
incompatible with each other in a DELL machine. This was from
someone who had a 450ME, I have a 450DE. Can anyone confirm
or deny this? If its true does ISA buslogic card work in place
of the Adaptec? If it doesn't, what's the lowest price for a
DPT 2012/90 EISA controller?
Thanks
John Stanhope
From: kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Floppy or Motherboard Problem?
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Date: 15 Jul 93 12:59:20 GMT
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Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany.
Hi
here the short description of the bug. If you want to know
the whole story read all.
I have an EISA/VLB Board with Adaptec 1542B and 486/66Mhz
SIS Chipsatz, Award Bios (:-(), ATI GUP VLB and 32 MB RAM
When I want to boot, the following message is printed:
Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: Retrying
This happens twice then instead of Retrying Recalibrating occurs.
This happens 4 or 5 times then it says failed I get some messages.
At the end it says:
RDP........(type 'c' to continue) but with c nothing happens.
Any idea?
I installed NSFIP on an ISA Board with AMI BIOS 16MB RAM and ADAptec
1542B and ATI GU ISA BUS.
Everything went fine. I changed the board and card and now I had colours
and a fast machine (look above). I could mount floppies and so on.
Then I decided to install all, the developpers, too so I had to
reinstall
everything. I tried, but the message above stopped me.
DOes anyone know the problem?
Isn't it strange that it works when NSFIP is installed and it works
with all other OS? Only the boot disk at boot time. But the disk
is ok, with the other board I can boot and install.
:-(
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From: arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS/I and portables...
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Date: 15 Jul 93 13:43:46 GMT
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Anyone had any luck with NeXTstep/Intel on portables using either PCMCIA or
parallel-port based SCSI controllers or ethernet adaptors? I would love to run
NeXTstep on a TI, NEC or Toshiba, but the prospect of getting a docking station
just for the bus given the advances in PCMCIA is troublesome (and expensive!).
--
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University of Pennsylvania arzt@dccs.upenn.edu
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From: iraf@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ira Frosch)
Subject: Re: NS on IBM Thinkpad?
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.135907.18113@rchland.ibm.com>
Sender: icf@oliverwjones.rchland.ibm.com (Ira Frosch)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 13:59:07 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
|> Does anyone (everyone) know if NS will run on IBM's Thinkpad. Specifically
|> the color one - I think it's the 700C or something like that. My dad is sold
|> on the Thinkpad, and I might have him sold on NS - if it runs on it.
|> Sorry for the basic question, but I just don't know that much about the IBM's.
|> Thanks!
|>
|>
|> -tom nawara
|> nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu
|> ideaLABS
Actually, according to my latest Thinkpad price list, there are a few color ones. The brand new 720C won't work, because it's Microchannel. I don't think the 700C is and neither is the 350C (they're both ISA), BUT, I would highly doubt that you can right now (translate to "probably never for the 1992/1993 models :-(. I was even surprised when I saw that there was even ValuePoints on the original compatibility list.
--
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Will 3.2 Support Adaptec 1542C Floppy Port?
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.142109.2733@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
Organization: Kripalu Center
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 14:21:09 GMT
Subject says it all.
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
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From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Subject: Alternative Keyboards.
Message-ID: <scott.742748087@shrug>
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 14:54:47 GMT
In the never ending battle to type faster and more comfortably, I'm
interested in knowing if it is possible to convert a PC keyboard to work
on a NeXTStation Colour 25MhZ machine....would it be possible to make
a little box that would somehow convert the connectors, or is there a
lot more involved than that?
Any ideas?
Scott
--
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"Did you know that the computer invented itself?" - SNL
From: lois@ecu.unice.fr (Lois Hoffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sources for Hard Disks in Europe
Date: 15 Jul 1993 14:45:22 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Distribution: Europe
Message-ID: <223qi2$6dn@taloa.unice.fr>
Hi. I'm new to the equipment-buying game, and I need to get a good price
on a hard disk to add to my slab. I'm looking for something that is
a) 700Mb or larger (fully formatted at 1024/block...if the price is good,
I'll probably go for a 1.2Gbyte one)
b) external, in a case, with a power supply of it's own, and maybe even an
externally set-able SCSI address (THAT is icing on the cake though!)
I've been reading the recent postings and I have a list of brands that I
hear will work, etc. My problem is that 99% of the companies I can find
with GREAT prices, especially those recommended on the nets, are in the
States, have 1-800 numbers (that are useless from here in France), and
some also don't ship over here because they don't want to bother with the
paperwork. So...
Anyone here on the Continent, especially in France, know of a good SOURCE
for (NeXT compatible) hard drives? Someone who has actually HEARD of a
NeXT? A responsible company that will not tell you it can't be done when
you ask for the spec sheets for info about the jumpers, etc? How about for
the strange SCSI-1 plug to SCSI-2 plug cable that I understand one needs?
Anyone got a "real" number for some of the other places mentioned like
Spin Peripheral or Peripheral Solutions?
Please reply to me directly and I'll summarize.
And Thanks!
Lois Hoffer
____________________________________________________________
Institut Nonlineaire de Nice Fax: +33.93.52.98.48
Universite de Nice-Sophia Antipolis
Parc Valrose Phone: +33.93.52.90.24
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From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: NS on IBM Thinkpad?
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.160812.37295@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 16:08:12 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
|> Does anyone (everyone) know if NS will run on IBM's Thinkpad. Specifically
|> the color one - I think it's the 700C or something like that. My dad is sold
|> on the Thinkpad, and I might have him sold on NS - if it runs on it.
|> Sorry for the basic question, but I just don't know that much about the IBM's.
|> Thanks!
|>
|>
|> -tom nawara
|> nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu
|> ideaLABS
The IBM Thinkpad 700C uses the 486 SLC processor. If I remember my hardware list correctly, the SLC processors are NOT on that list so indeed the 700C may not in fact work with NeXTSTEP. Then again, this doesn't mean it won't work either.
After try various pieces of hardware, configurations, IRQs etc on my quest to get NS/FIP on a machine for myself, I found the best thing to do was just try it. Most dealers are open to letting folks test drive systems. Lets you as a user show them a thing or two as well if the installation works.
Tom
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From: traupman-jonathan@yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI GUP VLB availability
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 15 Jul 1993 12:53:27 -0400
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <224227INN6i8@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>
Keywords: ATI,GUP,Graphics,Video
Does anyone have info on the availability of the VL-bus version of the
ATI GUP? I saw a number of adds for it in Computer Shopper, but when
I called ATI, they said only the OEM version was available. They said
the retail model would be available in August. If this is so, what are
all the vendors advertising it selling and how are people who post to
this group describing their systems gettinggit?
Jon
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From: tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tony Maas)
Subject: Problems with Fujitsu 2624 1.2G drive
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.182152.31908@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 18:21:52 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
I just bought a Fujitsu 1.2G 3.5" HH drive, and I'm
having problems trying to initialize the disk. For
future reference I have a monochrome NeXTstation.
I wanted to put the drive internal on my machine,
so my first attempt was to put the drive inside the
slab, boot off CD-ROM and initialize the disk from there.
Well, after a few tries with the SCSI connections we
managed to get the system to where it would recognize
the drive, and it would go through the first few stages
of installing the OS but when the system tried to
initialize it I'd get MEDIA ERRORs.
We then did an sdform and that seemed to work ok - no
errors were reported. Still failed on the initialization
step.
Next effort was to put my old Quantum drive back as
the internal drive(has 3.0 on it), put the 1.2G in an
external case, and boot under 3.0. The system came
up fine, and when I logged in as root the system asked
me if I wanted to initialize or repair the external drive,
since it wasn't formatted. Once again, no go on the
installation. Same media errors, except this time it
told me that there was a bad superblock, whatever that
means.
Short of sending the drive back and getting a new one,
is there a semi-easy way to fix this? If so, can
somebody help me out and send me a complete fix?
Thanks very much.
Tony
IBM Rochester, MN
tmaas@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
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From: philip@nexus.yorku.ca (Phil McDunnough)
Subject: Re: uncalled for message
Message-ID: <CA822F.Bzp@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
References: <1993Jul13.121907.1386@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> <1993Jul14.165039.7621@julian.uwo.ca>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 19:56:39 GMT
In article <1993Jul14.165039.7621@julian.uwo.ca> vesely@next.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Ivan Vesely) writes:
>In article <1993Jul13.121907.1386@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu
>(John D Stanhope) writes:
>> JUST KIDDING. But I wanted to get your attention...
>>
>Let me guess. You talk about bombs in a loud voice when you're going through
>the cow gates at the airport, right? We had a member of parlament who did the
>same thing at an airport because he thought it was funny. Well, the next day
>there was a big article in the paper that he got arrested and fined really big.
>Now THAT was REALLY funny!
Quite true. I don't feel the original poster's "joke" was funny at all. Is it my
imagination or has the nature of comp.sys.next.* changed dramatically over the
past few months? It's beginning to have comp.sys.amiga.* overtones. One gets
postings of the sort " I saw a NeXT on TV..." and that sort of thing.
In anycase something odd is happening here and I don't know what it is ...
--
Philip McDunnough
philip@nexus.yorku.ca
From: sta@logibec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dead Mouse - how to fix?
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.160912.1045@logibec.com>
Date: 15 Jul 93 16:09:12 GMT
References: <1993Jul14.191709.18922@adobe.com>
Sender: news@logibec.com
Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Ltee, QC, Canada
In article <1993Jul14.191709.18922@adobe.com> hamachi@adobe.com (Gordon
Hamachi) writes:
> david.k.kallman writes
> >
> > We have a dead mouse on a (slightly older than one year
> > old) Turbo Color Nextstation - it double clicks when
> > pressed once. How does one get a new one/get this one
> > repaired? Can Bell Atlantic help with this? Any other
> > ideas?
>
>
> For starters, you can switch from left mouse button to right mouse button.
Go
> to your Preferences application, select the mouse, and set the menu button to
> be the left mouse button. I had the same problem, and the right mouse button
> works fine for clicking.
>
> For a real solution, I have heard of people replacing the microswitches on
> their mouse. Others have talked about drilling out the rivet on the
> microswitch, squirting in some contact cleaner, and reassembling with a bolt
in
> place of the rivet.
>
> --Gordon Hamachi
You still can open the mouse and switch the click stuff.
I already have to do that for a dead mouse (left button).
Stephane Ah-ki
sta@logibec.com
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From: jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope)
Subject: I was not actually trying to be funny
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.205454.18334@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Sender: news@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 20:54:54 GMT
> Quite true. I don't feel the original poster's "joke" was funny at all. Is it my
It was not actually my intent to be funny but to get people to respond to my
question since no one had responded to an earlier post. FYI I had considiered
something worse but realized that I might be blamed for blowing up an airport
or something.
John
Lighten Up.
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Subject: Using ADB on a Color Turbo
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.215043.5608@digifix.com>
Sender: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 21:50:43 GMT
I remember a while back someone posted regarding what
NeXT Color Turbo's can run ADB by just replacing the
sound box. Apparently you could tell just by the
serial number of the computer.
Does anyone know what that number is?
--
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From: Peter Burke <pburke@macc.wisc.edu>
Subject: NeXTStep, OS/2 and Windows NT on one boot disk?
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.222739.28212@macc.wisc.edu>
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Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 93 22:27:39 GMT
You read the subject line correctly! This is exactly what
we are planning to do. The machine for this project hasn't
been speced out yet, so I'd like to hear from others if
they've done this. All three OS support multiple partitions
with different OS on each of them. One large SCSI disk
would be more economical, than to get 3 different external
disks. Has anybody done this before? We can only afford one
demo box for these three OS, so there is no way around
this.
Peter
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Installation on a Compaq ProSignia Server???
Date: 15 Jul 1993 23:24:57 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <224p09$t7t@menudo.uh.edu>
Has anyone installed NEXTSTEP on the following configuration (highly
unlikely):
Compaq ProSignia Server/Multimedia system (EISA)
36M Ram
*1.0G SCSI Internal drive
SVGA
Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Soundcard
*SMC EtherExpress 32
Plus internal tape, CD-Rom, etc...
The (*) means that I don't think that these devices are currently supported.
Does anyone know if the SMC EtherElite 16 driver will work with the 32 bit
card? (well, I guess I will know tomorrow :-) Also, I believe that the
SCSI card in the system is of Compaq origin and thus it might not be usable
either which means no NEXTSTEP on this baby since there is not an IDE
drive...
Btw, my first attempt to install failed when I tried to use my trusty
Adaptec 1540C SCSI card and NeXT CD-Rom drive (a winning combination, which
worked for every other system I installed). I couldn't get the card to be
accepted in the configuration with the silly configuration utility. It
seems that on this server, every card slot that is used must be explicitly
defined and the proper config installed and it won't auto recognize ISA
cards (why am I not surprised?)...
I am going to try the Compaq SCSI tomorrow because I didn't have the needed
SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cable (the adaptec has an SCSI-1 connector, as well as the
NeXT CD-Rom so I only had my SCSI-1 to SCSI-1 cable with me...)
Anyway, does anyone have an hints on configuring this beast (and I mean
beast!). The manuals aren't very clearly written and sometimes
contradicting... Any tips would be greatly appreciated (yeah and this from
the guy who figured out the Gateway2000 mess....)
:-)
Thanks...
--
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Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
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"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dead Mouse - how to fix?
Date: 16 Jul 1993 00:30:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <224sr8$da0@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <sean-140793174731@rm2221m6.cs.byu.edu>
In article <sean-140793174731@rm2221m6.cs.byu.edu> sean@digaudio.byu.edu (Sean Luke) writes:
>In article <CA5Lv4.2t5@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, dkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
>(david.k.kallman) wrote:
>>
>> We have a dead mouse on a (slightly older than one year
>> old) Turbo Color Nextstation - it double clicks when
>> pressed once. How does one get a new one/get this one
>> repaired? Can Bell Atlantic help with this? Any other
>> ideas?
>
>However, there is a Logitech to NeXT wiring for hooking up Logitech
>bus mice to a NeXT keyboard. I don't have it right now. Anyone?
I have replaced 3 NeXT mice with Logitech MouseMan Bus mouses.
I chopped off the cable and soldered an 8-pin Mini DIN connector
to the cable. It works fine.
I had to reverse Xa Xb in the wiring diagram posted RTF by Sean Luke
some time ago.
For Logitech MouseMan, Bus, my wiring is:
8pin Mini DIN Color of Logitech mouse cable (pin# inside the mouse body)
1 Black (4)
2 Brown (7)
3 Red (8)
4 Orange(9)
5 Yellow(10)
6 Gray (3)
7 Green(1) + Purple(2)
8 White (6)
Left and Middle buttons are wired together to become Left button for
NeXT.
One drawback is that Logitech MouseMan-Bus is a bit more sensitive
than the NeXT Mouse so the pointer moves too fast, and none of the
Preferences' 5 speed settings work right for the Logitech.
To slow down the pointer to my taste, I have the following in a
shell script.
dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "4 1 1 8 2 9 4 10 7"
Disclaimer:
Use this info at your own risk. If you blow the mouse port or
the mouse itself, you alone are responsible.
I had to throw away the PC plug-in card that came with the
bus mouse. I wonder if you can just buy the mouse by itself
without the adapter card.
--
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From: ddaniel@power-drill.media.mit.edu (Daniel Bromberg)
Subject: motherboard & video card compatibility
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.002913.6748@news.media.mit.edu>
Keywords: motherboard video card compatiblity Diamond chipset BIOS
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 00:29:13 GMT
Hi, I'm trying to put together a NeXTSTEP system on PC hardware
(nitemare!)
I'd like to know if anyone has any advice/knowledge/problems/techniques
with Diamond SpeedStar Pro video cards (with 2MB). Also, the compatibility
guidelines list very few video cards, so has anyone out there tried other
ones and has it worked?
Similar info desired for motherboard compatibility. I called one
manufacter and he said the thing to worry about is the chipset and the AMS
BIOS ROM version. Is this sort of bogus? I thought there was an industry
standard or something. He said their board uses UMG or USA chipsets. Any
ideas? Thanks,
Daniel Bromberg
ddaniel@athena.mit.edu
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From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Photo CD Creation Question
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.002237.21713@pixar.com>
Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster)
Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California
References: <1993Jul14.113715.2156@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 00:22:37 GMT
In article <1993Jul14.113715.2156@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
harit@kripalu.com writes:
> Is it possible to have a photo CD made from prints or negatives? Or
> do thay require slides?
>
> If needed I can make slides from the prints but if I do not need
> to...
> --
Kodalux (which is where most PhotoCD creation ends up happening these days
when you drop film off at your local non-pro house) prefers negative film
over slides. I think it might actually be a wee bit more expensive for
slides than film (more labor intensive). I believe they will take prints
too, but if so, the quality will be lower and the price will probably be
higher (again, more labor intensive).
This is from memory, which is known to be faulty. These days, I only
shoot Ektar (a Kodak print film, usually 1000, but sometimes 100 or 25)
and go right to PhotoCD without getting additional prints made. That's
the cheapest route, and it works for me...
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From: imj1@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Imad M Jureidini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 3COM 3C509 problems
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.015852.20134@news.columbia.edu>
Date: 16 Jul 93 01:58:52 GMT
Sender: usenet@news.columbia.edu (The Network News)
Organization: Columbia University
Hi!
I recently installed a 3COM 3C509TP ethernet adapter on my machine. It
is setup at IRQ 15 and IO port 360. I know it works, since I have been able to
use it under DOS. However, when I run NEXTSTEP/FIP, I cannot reach anything
else than my own computer. When I try telneting somewhere, I get a "network
is unreachable" message. I cannot ping anything else than my computer either.
Another problem I have that might be related to this one happens when
I try telneting to my self. It just write "trying *my adress*" and just sits
there.
Has anyone succeded in getting this network card to work? If yes,
what IRQ and IO base address are you using?
Thanks a lot!
*******************************************************************************
* imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu Imad "Hexabyte" Jureidini *
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From: me@nextix.ka.sub.org (Ulrich Meumann)
Subject: Re: Experiences with Maxtor MXT-1240S in a NeXTstation?
Message-ID: <CA8490.8B@nextix.ka.sub.org>
Sender: me@nextix.ka.sub.org (Ulrich Meumann)
Organization: Ulrich Meumann SoftwareEntwicklung
References: <384@gouche.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 20:43:47 GMT
In article <384@gouche.UUCP> grant@Manticore.COM (Grant J. Munsey) writes:
> I have a net impaired friend who has this question about disks for
> NeXTstations:
>
> The Maxtor MXT-1240S is available from NCA in San Jose for $1239. 3.5",
256K
> cache, 8.5ms access, 3 year warranty. Does anyone have this working on
in a
> 25MHz slab and is there a better price around. This drive is supposed to
be
> really quiet and have an awesome transfer rate.
I installed this drive in my 25MHz Mono-Slab. It s definitely *NOT* as
quiet as it is supposed to be. Like my previous HD, a Seagate 1480N, it
emits a high-frequent sound, just like an old television set.
Somebody told me, that all BIG drives have the same problems, due to their
fast rotations (Maxtor: 6300 RPM!).
>
> This joke is offered in payment for information:
>
> Q. What is the difference between IBM and Jurassic Park.
>
> A. One is a high-tech theme park dominated by dinosaurs.
> The other is a Stephen Spielberg movie.
>
> ----
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> grant@manticore.com or uunet!ub-gate!gouche!grant
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From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore)
Subject: Re: Maxtor LXT340SY SCSI formats small
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.035133.644@imani.cam.org>
Sender: nico@imani.cam.org
References: <CA4wxo.F8q@well.sf.ca.us>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1993 03:51:33 GMT
In article <CA4wxo.F8q@well.sf.ca.us> sandman@well.sf.ca.us (W. Sanford May)
writes:
[original post completely deleted. Sad.]
> Marc,
>
> Very few manufacturers or resellers seriously promote their drives for black
> NeXT hardware. Even fewer actually provide technical specs for NeXT.
> There's a decent chance that you were quoted a formatted capacity for the
> use of that drive on PC or Macintosh system. Different formatters for
> different systems futz around in unique ways with low-level formats.
> I don't know this as fact, but 324 meg could be the maximum rating for that
> drive on a NeXT.
>
> Sanford
> sandman@well.sf.ca.us
Hi
Don't want to break your "let's bash vendors" thread, but doesn't Mach take 5%
(number could be wrong) away from the HD to use as a "scratch" file when
writing stuff on the HD?
I read somewhere that's what fsck tries to figure out (amongst other things,
I'm sure. 8^)) when booting a non-properly shut-down system. My system's drive
(a Quantum PD425S) gives me a 16 Megs discrepancy between the "df" output
(402597 total size) and "disk" output (416415 size). "Disk", BTW, also mentions
"10%" a the "Minimum free". The discrepancy adds up to about 4%. Could be due
to bad sectors, I don't know, but 16 Megs seem in the ballpark for the original
poster.
So, sorry to interrupt, and I do hope the above helps the original poster, or
at least allows us all to learn more about this beautiful machine! 8^>
BTW I know vendors are _NOT_ perfect, but who is?
Ciao
Nicolas Dore
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From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dot Matrix printers on NS/i?
Message-ID: <1993Jul15.230243.70060@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 15 Jul 93 23:02:43 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
Is anyone out there using Nextstep Intel with any dot matix printers? What is
your experience with them? I am about to take on a project that I will need to
output information to a dot matrix (multi-page forms) and I am curious on how
the next handles it, and what the print looks like.
On the same note, is there any way to have more than one paralell port in a
Nextstep Intel machine? Is there some board you can get etc. I would like to
have two paralell dot matrix printers hanging off of one machine...now if Next
could only get the serial port driver fixed I would be set for my project. Has
there been any "official" word on when we can expect the new driver? I for one
cannot wait until 3.2, and I would hate to have to drop Nextstep development
just so I can use a serial port on a PC.
John Zollinger
Moore BCS
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From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore)
Subject: Re: Photo CD Creation Question
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.033107.872@imani.cam.org>
Sender: nico@imani.cam.org
References: <1993Jul14.113715.2156@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 03:31:07 GMT
In article <1993Jul14.113715.2156@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu> harit@kripalu.com
writes:
> Is it possible to have a photo CD made from prints or negatives? Or
> do thay require slides?
Photo-CD currently (07-15) accepts 35mm negatives, possibly slides. Most
certainly slides taken out of their holder ("positives"). Larger formats (up to
5x7, I've heard, with ~6000x~4000 resolution! A whole 72 Megs per picture!!!)
are to come within the summer.
I've been bugging every photo store about when the larger are coming, They were
saying July. Now, they're not...
Ciao
> If needed I can make slides from the prints but if I do not need
> to...
> --
> Michael Allen Latta
> Kripalu Center
> harit@kripalu.com
> (413)448-3288
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Subject: Any experience with PIONEER DRM 604-X on a NeXT?
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 08:23:49 GMT
Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn
Sender: news@pilhuhn.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn)
Message-ID: <CA90np.AI5@pilhuhn.sub.org>
Has anybody tried to get a PIONEER DRM 604-X CD-ROM drive running on a
NeXTstation?
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From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Subject: Configuration of IBM 1GB 1" drive for NeXT?
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 08:26:26 GMT
Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn
Sender: news@pilhuhn.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn)
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Has anybody tried to configure the new IBM 1GB slim drive for NeXT hardware?
Like the old H12/L12 it still doesn't work right away.
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From: ken@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Subject: Re: Dead Mouse - how to fix?
In-Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu's message of 16 Jul 1993 00:30:32 GMT
Message-ID: <KEN.93Jul16194958@ieyasu.phys.titech.ac.jp>
Sender: news@phys.titech.ac.jp (Usenet News System)
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology
References: <sean-140793174731@rm2221m6.cs.byu.edu>
<224sr8$da0@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 10:49:58 GMT
In article <224sr8$da0@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) writes:
...
I have replaced 3 NeXT mice with Logitech MouseMan Bus mouses.
I chopped off the cable and soldered an 8-pin Mini DIN connector
to the cable. It works fine.
[useful info for hooking up logitech to NeXT deleted]
This is very useful information which should be in the FAQ if
it is not there already. It gets posted every once in a while.
However, I have one suggestion: Why don't you just buy the
ends that attach to the NeXT kbd and the logitech mouse
and do the wiring so that you make an adapter rather
than chopping up the Logitech and the NeXT mice?
This way, you can switch the logitech mice trivially rather
than having to resolder to another logitech.
Doesnt hurt the poor mice either. I suspect places
like Radio Shack carries the connectors, whatever the spec was.
I think this is a good project for some enterpreneuring
minds. Make a few hundred of them and sell
these at a reasonable price, and
this would be a service to the NeXT community and
you earn some bucks. You dont hurt the NeXT mouse,
get an option to use Logitech if you feel like it.
Sure it's cheap and trivial to make one, but
it's usually not worth ones time to figure
out what to do, collect the parts, solder stuff, etc,
just to make one adapter.
I would buy one if it's priced under $15.
I mentioned this to NeXTconnection a few months
ago but so far, they do not seem to have done it.
Any takers?
Final note: this was NOT my idea. I was discussing this
with another physicist and he thought of it.
(What can I say... physicists are smart :-)
He unfortunately does not even read usenet, so I took
the liberty of posting it for him.
--
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Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
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From: andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen)
Subject: Re: 3COM 3C509 problems
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.132406.1422@glv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@glv.uucp
Organization: Encompass
References: <1993Jul16.015852.20134@news.columbia.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 13:24:06 GMT
Imad M Jureidini writes
> I recently installed a 3COM 3C509TP ethernet adapter on
> my machine. It is setup at IRQ 15 and IO port 360. I
> know it works, since I have been able to use it under DOS.
> However, when I run NEXTSTEP/FIP, I cannot reach anything else
> than my own computer. When I try telneting somewhere, I get a
> "network is unreachable" message. I cannot ping anything else
> than my computer either.
>
> Another problem I have that might be related to this one
> happens when I try telneting to my self. It just write
> "trying *my adress*" and just sits there.
>
> Has anyone succeded in getting this network card to work?
> If yes, what IRQ and IO base address are you using?
I also had a similar problem with my 3COM card. I talked to NeXT and they
said that the 3COM card doesn't work very well, if at all. If you can I would
get an Intel EtherExpress or SMC Elite 16. I purchases an Intel card for ~
$100 and it worked perfectly out of the box, I just plugged it an an blammo
network connection.
--
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Encompass 113 Edinburgh South Suite 200
Cary, NC 27511
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From: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Quantum PD210S: low level format?
Date: 16 Jul 1993 14:45:19 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <226etv$rv9@email.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <223cle$9ud@email.tuwien.ac.at>
In article <223cle$9ud@email.tuwien.ac.at> ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas
Haleger) writes:
> In article <220j0a$pg1@email.tuwien.ac.at> ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas
> Haleger) writes:
> >
> > Subject says it mostly. This disk, 200MB, shipped with most Next
> stations,
> > seems not to be formattable. In detail, sdform or disk -F state
"illegal
> > iocommand". I also saw somewhere mentioned that newer Quantum drives
are
> > shipped preformatted and cannot be formatted again.
> >
> > Now a friend of mine is in luck to have a media error on his disk. As
he
> > can't reformat it (initialize from the Workspace doesn't help, it is
> only
> > logically), he has to tell the operating system in another way how to
> > avoid the defect block. He found a program named reassignblock which
> works
> > quite well.
> >
> > Now my question: What happens when too many blocks have to be
> reassigned.
> > To my knowledge the reserved tracks on the disk are very limited. You
> > can't reformat it either. Have you to throw it away then? (This case
> > didn't happen, good luck, but I am very interested what the experts
out
> > there would do in such a case. Is it a solution at all to reformat the
> > drive?)
> >
> > Answers are gladly excepted and will be summarized.
> >
>
> I have to followup to my own posting. Circumstances got worse. Now the
> Next doesn't recognize the disk anymore when booting. The disk does not
> make odd noises, so I beleive, it could be repaired by reformatting. Any
> hints urgently needed.
>
> BTW: Guarantee: The local dealer informed my friend that guarantee for
all
> parts of a Next is one year, although nearly all newer drives have
> guarantees for at least 3 years, but Next just doesn't forward this to
the
> end user. Can anybody confirm this?
Okay, following up myself a third time. The only suggestion I received is
to contact Quantum. Does anybody have an email-address of Quantum?
--
== Andreas ==
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Using ADB on a Color Turbo
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.160520.21433@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Jul15.215043.5608@digifix.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 16:05:20 GMT
In article <1993Jul15.215043.5608@digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
Anguish) writes:
> I remember a while back someone posted regarding what
> NeXT Color Turbo's can run ADB by just replacing the
> sound box. Apparently you could tell just by the
> serial number of the computer.
ADB requires:
- "turbo" board machine
- later series of cable (part number starts with 4 instead of
2)(machine-soundbox-display)
- v74 ROM
- ADB soundbox
- ADB capable-display
- ADB keyboard
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From: ews@netcom.com (Ed Sznyter)
Subject: I can't mount mac external FS's anymore
Message-ID: <ewsCA9q6s.JK1@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 17:35:15 GMT
I haven't changed anything in the hardware, and the drive (which still
works fine on the mac) used to mount just fine. I've tried two different
external mac drives (Actually, the drive that gives the following error
is the 104M Quantum that came originally with my color slab.) Has
anyone run into this sort of problem?
Jul 15 16:29:02 babel mach: SEAGATE ST11200N Rev 8240 as sd0 at sc0 target 2 lun
0
Jul 15 16:29:02 babel mach: Disk Label: NewDisk
Jul 15 16:29:02 babel mach: Disk Capacity 1042MB, Device Block 1024 bytes
Jul 15 16:29:02 babel mach: FUJITSU M2266S-1024 Rev 0014 as sd1 at sc0 target 3
lun 0
Jul 15 16:29:02 babel mach: Disk Label: fuji
Jul 15 16:29:02 babel mach: Disk Capacity 1090MB, Device Block 1024 bytes
Jul 15 16:29:02 babel mach: s0 (4,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:10 scsi status:0x0
Jul 15 16:29:02 babel mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Jul 15 16:29:02 babel mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg1 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
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From: carlier@venus.ycc.yale.edu
Subject: looking for MO w/ NSI
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.153956.1@venus.ycc.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale Computer Center (YCC)
Date: 16 Jul 93 15:39:56 EDT
Hi,
I am looking for a magneto-optical drive that will work
with NEXTSTEP Intel. I would like a 3.5" drive either
128 MB or 256 MB (I have not decided yet), but a pretty
fast one.
I would really appreciate recommendations. There are quite
a lot of MO around now and I want to be sure I get one that
will work w/ NSI. I called NeXT but they told me that they
haven't tried any. I would thing that they don't require
a special driver and just work like SCSI HD.
If you have one please tell me about its speed, access time,
what you think of it, etc.
Are the access times given in ads -like the 19 ms of the
Pinnacle drives- measured the same way they are on hard drives,
or do they use a different procedure, like 1/3 stroke?
My e-mail address is:
carlier@pressure.eng.yale.edu (No NeXTMail on that one)
Thanks
Claude
Department of Chemical Engineering
Yale University
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Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer mechanical problem
Message-ID: <CA9t45.MEE@hawk.cs.ukans.edu>
From: stubbs@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Jerry Stubbs)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 18:38:29 GMT
References: <CA4L07.A0n@dove.nist.gov>
Organization: University of Kansas Computer Science Dept
In article <CA4L07.A0n@dove.nist.gov> clark@bruce.nist.gov writes:
>My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - gets stuck
>on the last 3/4 inch or so. Sheets can be pulled out fairly easily by
>hand the rest of the way - they feel like they're caught in some
>rollers.
it's a small 14 tooth gear in the fuser assy'. Chenesko
laser products sells a replacement for $3.
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Subject: Re: Dead Mouse - how to fix?
Message-ID: <CA9t81.MGp@hawk.cs.ukans.edu>
From: stubbs@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Jerry Stubbs)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 18:40:49 GMT
References: <CA5Lv4.2t5@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> <sean-140793174731@rm2221m6.cs.byu.edu>
Organization: University of Kansas Computer Science Dept
>> Folks,
>>
>> We have a dead mouse on a (slightly older than one year
>> old) Turbo Color Nextstation - it double clicks when
>> pressed once. How does one get a new one/get this one
I wonder if some tv tuner cleaner sprayed in the switch
might help.
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI timer fails - WHY?
Date: 17 Jul 1993 00:25:33 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2276cd$7fv@cc.tut.fi>
I dug up the following message out of the /usr/adm/messages:
Jul 16 12:05:08 nexus mach: SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at 0x2014000
Jul 16 12:05:08 nexus mach: QUANTUM PD425S as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0
Jul 16 12:05:08 nexus mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Jul 16 12:05:08 nexus mach: root on sd0
Jul 16 13:44:53 nexus mach: sd0 (1,0): scsi_timer: timeout op:0x28 sd_state:0 scsi status:0x0
I remember that I started an application and it took ages to get started.
But NeXT didn't panic or crash, so I think it didn't do any harm.
This is a 030 NeXT, but that shouldn't make any difference, since the
controller is the newer one. Any ideas why it failed? I found another
similar message from messages.old file, it was dated two weeks ago.
Before that, nothing. I haven't noticed any mysterious crashes or anything,
so this seems a bit weird, doesn't it.
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP: NS/I installation probs
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 16 Jul 93 13:18:14 PDT
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.131815.28682@crash>
References: <1993Jul16.103740.17037@crash>
Followup to original post.
I've already gotten some responses from various folks. Thanks!
The summary so far is:
* Try another mouse
* Check your SCSI card & Cables
Ok, fine, but according to the June 1st 1993 HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY GUIDE
published by NeXT, Inc. (the horse's mouth, in other words), it lists the
Logitech MouseMan Bus mouse as being ok for 3.1. So I drove out to
CompUSA and bought one, HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY GUIDE in my hand.
Surely the mouse should work, no? It is set to IRQ5, and I doublechecked
with Logitech tech support and they recommended IRQ5 too.
The SCSI card, hmm, well, not sure what could be wrong with that, it
runs through its diagnostics OK, and it is set up exactly as specified
in one of the NeXTAnswers docs.
I really don't want to call NeXT tech support and pay them money to
help me install their own software (absolutely incredible policy NeXT
has there -- I cannot think of another UNIX company that has such an
insane policy -- and I have installed SCO UNIX, XENIX, ODT, UHC UNIX,
AT&T System V R4, COHERENT, Solaris/SunSoft, etc., etc., and none has
had such a policy, but anyways...).
I would greatly greatly appreciate further suggestions... I still
believe this machine should work fine. And the Fahrenheit VLB board
is, by the way, a 2MB VRAM board -- might I be able to get at least
1024x768x16 on it? I sure hope so. Right now I will settle for 640x480
mono if I can get the mouse working... :-)
-- brian
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP: NS/I installation probs
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 16 Jul 93 13:41:52 PDT
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.134153.29796@crash>
References: <1993Jul16.131815.28682@crash>
Follow-up to the previous followup:
Well, well, well! I got it to install!!!
All I did was change a SCSI cable. Literally. And when I rebooted
the mouse worked. Weird, but true.
So I got the hardware configuration dialog box, and I wanted to
reset the video to S3-based SuperVGA but it said there was a
conflict with the SCSI device. So I will go change that and
hopefully I can get everything working.
My goal is to get 16-bit 1024x768 color graphics on this machine.
The Orchid Fahrenheit VL board with 2MB VRAM should be able to
handle that, no? I was under the impression it had an S3 chip on it.
Anyone else had experience with this board, at 16-bit color levels?
From: low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu (Richard Low)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dual booting NS/FIP, OS/2 2.x, and DOS
Keywords: OS/2 NEXTSTEP DOS
Message-ID: <17819@news.duke.edu>
Date: 16 Jul 93 21:35:44 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Has anyone had any luck installing NS/FIP in a boot manager to allow dual
booting into either NEXTSTEP, OS/2 2.x or DOS?
Thanks for any help.
=================================================================
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP: NS/I installation probs
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 16 Jul 93 13:54:19 PDT
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.135419.86@crash>
References: <1993Jul16.103740.17037@crash>
Spoke too soon....
The installation started --- I had specified only to install the
NeXT Essentials and the English.lproj stuff, and it got to 7%
completed and then "Internal error" -- a dialog box came up and
says an internal error occurred, and that I should quit and run
BuildDisk again. BuildDisk, what's that? I mean, that was
never mentioned before.
So I selected "Quit", it rebooted, I got back to same point, and
again, at the 7% completed point, the "Internal error" came up again.
Any ideas?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP: NS/I installation probs
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 16 Jul 93 14:02:31 PDT
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.140232.349@crash>
References: <1993Jul16.103740.17037@crash>
The saga continues...
NOW when I boot the machine, it boots OK, and as soon as it switches
into the grey graphics screen, the mouse cursor appears, goes away,
appears, turns into a beach ball busy cursor, then the screen erases,
the "Next Mach Operating System" window comes up, the "frame buffer"
error flickers by too fast to read, then the window goes away, the mouse
cursor is back, then busy, then "NeXT Mach Operating System" window, then
"frame buffer", then.... well, you get the idea.
It's in an infinite loop, and I'm starting to get frustrated :-).
Any help?
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Zyxel modem order info?
Date: 17 Jul 1993 01:13:09 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <227jn5$6rs@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
After reading on the net about all the great things that can be done
with this modem, and having been considering the purchase of a new
modem for a little while now anyway, I was wondering if somebody could
give me the info on ordering this modem. I need all the basics, like
price, company phone and address, etc. in order to properly weigh this
purchase.
Thanks in advance!
Joe
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From: bobc@sed.stel.com (Bob Combs)
Subject: Color Printer Choice?
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.180141.11479@sed.stel.com>
Organization: SED, Stanford Telecom, Reston, VA 22090
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 93 18:01:41 GMT
My office is considering the purchase of a color printer.
We need advice on available postscript printers that
are compatible with NeXT black hardware, and our DOS
machines, and possibly our Mac stuff.
If anyone has any experience in this area, can you tell
me what printer you would recommend?
Thanks,
Bob Combs
.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope)
Subject: Dell and Adaptec
Message-ID: <1993Jul16.184504.12770@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Sender: news@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 93 18:45:04 GMT
Has anyone got the below error on there system and been able to fix
it?
AHA interrupt: bad status ff
sd0: INVALID STATUS (Internal error): FATAL ERROR
target:0 lun: 0 op: Read block: some # blockcount: some #
I am trying to get NS/i to use the scsi drive with out totally
destroying it before any serious work can be done. I tried
3 different irq's (10,11,15) and 3 dma channels (5,6,7) and they
gave me this error when booting. And when I woudl try to
intialize the disk using disk I would get write error and newfs
would fail. If I use the settings specified by NeXT I can init
the disk and use it for a while but eventualy causes a system
panic.
If any out there has been able to get the ATI EISA card and an
Adaptec card to work PLEASE respond. If any has an Adaptec card
working in a Dell 450[DM]E please tell, especially if you had to
do some tweaking to get it to work.o
Even though some said this is a conflict between the two cards and
the DELL I seem to remember having the same problem using an
older ATI card for the VGA display. Could this be a DRIVER BUG?
Any and all responses are welcomed.
John Stanhope
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bff@teal.csn.org (Brendan Forsyth)
Subject: Re: 3COM 3C509 problems
Message-ID: <CAAHGK.M91@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
References: <1993Jul16.132406.1422@glv.uucp>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 03:24:20 GMT
andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen) writes:
: Imad M Jureidini writes
: > I recently installed a 3COM 3C509TP ethernet adapter on
: > my machine. It is setup at IRQ 15 and IO port 360. I
: > know it works, since I have been able to use it under DOS.
: > However, when I run NEXTSTEP/FIP, I cannot reach anything else
: > than my own computer. When I try telneting somewhere, I get a
: > "network is unreachable" message. I cannot ping anything else
: > than my computer either.
: >
: > Another problem I have that might be related to this one
: > happens when I try telneting to my self. It just write
: > "trying *my adress*" and just sits there.
: >
: > Has anyone succeded in getting this network card to work?
: > If yes, what IRQ and IO base address are you using?
:
: I also had a similar problem with my 3COM card. I talked to NeXT and they
: said that the 3COM card doesn't work very well, if at all. If you can I would
: get an Intel EtherExpress or SMC Elite 16. I purchases an Intel card for ~
: $100 and it worked perfectly out of the box, I just plugged it an an blammo
: network connection.
:
: --
: Robert John Andersen andersen@reality.glv.com
: Encompass 113 Edinburgh South Suite 200
: Cary, NC 27511
: 919-460-3285 Voice 919-460-3295 Fax
I have the same card in my system and had big troubles getting it to work.
However, here is a sort-of workaround. Configure your card to work using the
AUI (external) port and connect a mini-mau to it (if you are only running a
10-Base T network). This works much better. I also configured mine with
300 as the base address. I am still having a problem getting autonfsmount
to work (error 'can't get system address'). I am not sure if this is directly
connected to the 3c509 problem, if anyone has any suggestions please forward.
Hope this helps.
Brendan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Augustine Wong)
Subject: Support the SB-16 +CD-ROM (IDE)
Message-ID: <CAAMr0.n3v@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 05:18:36 GMT
This is a strong please for NeXT or anyone to support the SoundBlaster 16
ASP with Wave Table addon + their typical non-SCSI inexpensive CD-ROM, such
as a Philips or Panasonic. The SB is by far the most popular PC sound
board and these Philips' CD-ROM are Kodak multi-session comapatible. Also
the e-mu chip on th eWave Table addon is as close as we will get to a NeXT
sound without getting a MultiSound card.
The PAS-16 has had very mixed reviews. It is a pain to set up, not great
sound and NS/I doesn't even support the one advantage is does have ( a SCSI
interface for CD-ROM's).
The PC has a sound standard now. It is the Sound Blaster, and this latest
offering is very nice.
I can get a reasonable CD-ROM for $200CDN, as long a sit's IDE or semi-SCSI.
Gateway bundles CD-ROM's! Please NeXT...
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nick@ludwig.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Nick Walker)
Subject: where are the FAQ's ??
Message-ID: <CA9wMt.6GM@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Distribution: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 19:54:28 GMT
Can anybody let me know where I can get hold of the FAQ files. I'm just
starting to get interested in running NS on an Intel PC, but my knowledge
of PC's is, to say the least, poor!
Thanks.
Nick Walker.
--
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Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-3677
Pager: (415) 424-7335
From: jmb@tyche.merit.edu (Jim Blum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Problems with S3 video - HELP!
Date: 17 Jul 1993 05:49:27 GMT
Organization: Merit Network, Inc. Ann Arbor, MI
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2283t7$a9@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I just got NSI going on my new machine. However, there is one big problem with
it. When I start it up in the 800 X 600 color mode or the 1024 X 768 grey scalemode, my screen is out of sync. Anybody have any ideas on how to correct this?
I am using a STB Powergraph VL-24 (S3 I think), and a CTX 1561 monitor (multi-
sync)
Thanks in advance.
phone (313) 851-1996, e-mail jmb@merit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP: NS/I installation probs
Message-ID: <1993Jul17.065452.28803@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
References: <1993Jul16.103740.17037@crash>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 06:54:52 GMT
In article <1993Jul16.103740.17037@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear) writes:
>It installs enough so that you can boot from the hard disk.
>(I note whenever I boot now, I get a rather scary message saying
>"BIOS not found! No INT13 devices!!!" -- what does that mean?)
I've seen this message and I think it means that SCSI card doesn't
find any hard disks (?).
>-- brian
-harri-
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From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: NSFIP/ Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Message-ID: <1993Jul17.154949.2545@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Sender: usenet@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 15:49:49 GMT
A recent post included a description of a floppy related problem:
> When I want to boot, the following message is printed:
> Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
> fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: Retrying
>
> This happens twice then instead of Retrying Recalibrating occurs.
>
Did anyone figure out what the problem is? I'm trying to install NS on a
Gateway 2000 486DX2 66 EISA with ATI Ultra Pro, Adaptec 1540, SMC Elite16,
etc.
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From: starpath@bard.MIT.EDU (David E. Hollingsworth)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone,athena.forsale,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WANTED: 70 ns 4 MB SIMMS
Date: 17 Jul 1993 17:04:24 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <229beo$3gl@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: 4MB SIMMS 70ns
I al looking for 4 4MB 70ns SIMMS (like a lot of other people.) Must be
486 motherboard compatible. Under $130. I'm using someone else's account
right now, please e-mail at:
ddaniel@athena.mit.edu
Thanks,
Daniel Bromberg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: optadm7@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (J.Cassidy - Optometry)
Subject: Frame Grabber availability?
Message-ID: <CABKnC.EI6@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 17:30:48 GMT
I am searching for any company that produces a low end frame
grabber for Intel machines running NeXTSTEP. If anyone knows
of such a company (or perhaps on that produces one for the
NeXT that might also be planning one for Intel boxes) I would
be greatful if they could send me their phone number.
It doesn't have to be some special multimedia type board just
something to allow some NeXTSTEP apps I am writing do some
video analysis.
On another issue, does NS/FIP 3.1 support DeskJet printers, or
is that not until 3.2?
Thanks in advance!
Jim.
=========================================================================
Jim Cassidy jcassidy@focus.uwaterloo.ca
University of Waterloo optadm7@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
200 University Ave. VE3RTS
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 ext. 6240
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP: NS/I installation probs
Date: 17 Jul 1993 19:34:04 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <229k7c$e05@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <1993Jul17.065452.28803@uwasa.fi>
In article <1993Jul17.065452.28803@uwasa.fi> hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
writes:
#In article <1993Jul16.103740.17037@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian
Dear) writes:
#>It installs enough so that you can boot from the hard disk.
#>(I note whenever I boot now, I get a rather scary message saying
#>"BIOS not found! No INT13 devices!!!" -- what does that mean?)
#
#I've seen this message and I think it means that SCSI card doesn't
#find any hard disks (?).
#
Yep. I see this on the Adaptec 154xC cards which have the BIOS option
enabled. It basically scans the SCSI bus for BIOS devices. Well, it
doesn't find any. Ignore the message....
#>-- brian
#
#-harri-
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From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEC CD ROM 74-1
Message-ID: <1993Jul17.204607.1774@cc.gatech.edu>
Date: 17 Jul 93 20:46:07 GMT
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
|> Can antone tell me if they have installed NSI
|> with a DPT 2012b/90 SCSI controller and the CD-ROM
|> drive mentionned above ? (1,2G SCSI HD)
|>
|> I have a problem where the SCSI CD ROM works
|> well under DOS and Windows but will trash the
|> system when booting NIS installation.
!Don't sappose you could post what it puts out for messages when booting
! could you?
Okay the last system message was 'NO CD-ROM' or something
like that.
I then reconfigured the COMPAQ 4/66M I have with the
DPT card and made that one I/O 'secondary-non bootable'.
The system failed many times. Hanged on registering
the sc0 device or something like that.
I then tried with a NEXT CD-ROM (ID6) and I got
the same type of problem.
Basically, it RESETS the SCSI BUS.
then registers my SCSI HD (Id0 LUN0 ...)
and then hang triying to access the CD-ROM.
I can see the light and hear the noise periodically (5sec)
comming out of the device. Repeats that for ever.
Any help ?
(yes the disk is ID0 and the NEC-CD/ROM was ID1 and the NEXT is ID6)
Jm
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles@oneworld.wa.com
Subject: NIS Install on Zeos Help!!
Message-ID: <1993Jul18.071648.16510@oneworld.wa.com>
Organization: OneWorld Enterprises/OneWorld Computing Resources
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 07:16:48 GMT
I have a ZEOS 486 DX2 66MHZ computer
Phoenix Bios
8mb of RAM (I know but enough to get started...)
1.2gig SCSI Toshiba Harddrive
245mb IDE (currently not connected to system)
VESA Diamond Stealth VLB card
NEC Intersect CD ROM drive external
Adaptec 1542C scsi controller with onboard bios
I am experiencing problems in that the NIS install gets to the point of
registering devices but fails to register the CDROM therefore, can't
install. (even though the SCSI board registered it in the initial host
adapater boot)
This ZEOS board has an Adaptec SCSI on the motherboard but that is set to
a different IRQ than the 1542C so it shouldn't be conflicting. ( I could
be wrong).
This is supposed to be a pretty standard bios (Phoenix) but It may have
some Zeos specific things in it. Has anyone had success installing on a Zeos?
Also, has anyone installed on a machine with a VEGA motherboard with
Symphony Bios? I am contemplating actually swapping out my Zeos board for
one of these as I can move the cpu components over. I've been told this is
a popular clone board. Anyone using it?
Thanks in advance for any info you can send.
Charles W. Cooper II |OneWorld Enterprises |
(206)453-8766 |OneWorld Computing Resources | - space for rent -
(206)453-7083 fax/data |203 Bellevue Way N.E. STE 314 |
charles@oneworld.wa.com |Bellevue, WA 98004 USA |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: SIGBUS() on rdump
Message-ID: <CAD87B.8DL@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 14:57:11 GMT
I've been successfully using rdump for a while to back up a NeXT cube's
internal and external drives. Recently the drive pooped out and I got a
replacement. Ever since, an attempt to use the same rdump command
generates a SIGBUS() error that says it can't use the tape, and would I
like to replace the tape. I have tried three different tapes on two
different tape drives, and always get the same message. Does anyone know what might be going on? Incidentally, this happens with both the new
external and the internal that was giving me no problems before.
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu tried three different tapes on tw
From: Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS/FIP can't see my CD_ROM
Message-ID: <85792@cup.portal.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 93 11:11:49 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
Yet another person with NS/FIP installation problems. (I've tried
calling the NeXT support line, but so far haven't managed to talk
to a human yet, just the answering machine.)
I'm trying to install on a DELL 466M machine. I have an external
CD-ROM drive plugged in as SCSI Id 0, which works fine under DOS,
but the NS install program can't seem to see it (message "No
CD-ROM drive found")
I also seem to be getting some Objective-C runtime error messages
from the install program (e.g. "configureDriver: Coulnd't find
class named SMC16")
The following are all the messages (that hadn't already scrolled
off the screen) I got while trying to install:
Resetting SCSI bus
Registering: hc0
IDE drive 0 using MultiSector Mode
Registering: hd0
Registering: hd0a
hd0: no valid disk label
hd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
hd0: Device Capacity: 432 Mb
Registering fc0:
Registering fd0:
Registering fd0a:
fd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
fd0: Device Capacity; 1440 Kb
fd0: Disk Label: Install_3.1
class `SMC16' not linked into application
configureDriver: Coulnd't find class named SMC16
class `EtherExpress16' not linked into application
configureDriver: Couldn't find class named EtherExpress16
Registering: VGADisplay0
Registering: event0
Registering: kmDevice0
No CD-ROM drive found:
use sd%d, hd%d, or fd%d
root device?
Anybody seen these messages before, or know what to do about
them?
Thanks,
Lee Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com
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From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Silhouette Trackball, Mac KB & NeXT ADB upgrade ?
Message-ID: <1993Jul18.142822.3852@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 14:28:22 GMT
I am going to buy a NeXTcube Turbo from comp.sys.next.marketplace.
I am trying to buy an ADB version, because I love to use the Silhouette
Trackball (a comfortable trackball for Mac, any better suggestion ?)
and want to try the new Apple Adjustable Keyboard (the one separated
into two half).
Is it possible to hook those things up ? Is there any driver(s)
available for them ?
As I didn't see any NeXTcube Turbo with ADB in the
comp.sys.next.marketplace post, is it possible to buy upgrade kit for
such config ? And is it same as the originally equiped ADB ?
Thanks
Mr.WONG Sai-Kee
Graduate Student
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jimu@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au (James Uther)
Subject: Hardware For email site?
Organization: sydney university
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 02:22:40 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jul19.022240.18873@cs.su.oz.au>
Sender: news@cs.su.oz.au (News)
I'm looking into setting up a student access machine so that those poor
unfortunate arts students without internet access can have an email address.
I'm doing this with the postgraduate association, which is pretty poor, but
the requirements (individual accounts, good interface, mult-tasking for
simultaneous modem access, ethernet) sort of limit the choices to unix
with a worthwhile interface, ie NeXTstep.
2 questions:
what is the cheapest setup anyone has yet found (this is not for
power users or use for long intervals) for running NSFIP
Answer the above question again given that the university in question
is in Australia. (those Cannon people? speak up!).
thanks heaps
jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: charles@oneworld.wa.com
Subject: Re: NS/FIP can't see my CD_ROM
Message-ID: <1993Jul19.042345.20133@oneworld.wa.com>
Organization: OneWorld Enterprises/OneWorld Computing Resources
References: <85792@cup.portal.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 04:23:45 GMT
This is exactly my problem as well but on a ZEOS computer.
I'm using an NEC interset CD Drive. A very standard one.
Any ideas/workarounds would be most appreciated.
Charles W. Cooper II |OneWorld Enterprises |
(206)453-8766 |OneWorld Computing Resources | - space for rent -
(206)453-7083 fax/data |203 Bellevue Way N.E. STE 314 |
charles@oneworld.wa.com |Bellevue, WA 98004 USA |
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From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Subject: Cube On Side
Message-ID: <CAEBzn.7x@fafnir.com>
Sender: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 05:16:35 GMT
Is it a bad idea to operate a Cube on its side? This is a fairly old
one, as Cubes go, with an OD and a 330M internal. We're trying to put
things into a cabinet, and the Cube is a tad too tall.
--
The gentle journey jars to stop. The drifting dream is
done. The long gone goblins loom ahead; the deadly,
that we thought were dead, stand waiting, every one.
-- Walt Kelly Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
From: marc@ecu.unice.fr (Marc Monticelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: A new video card problems
Date: 19 Jul 1993 13:43:45 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Message-ID: <22e8eh$qd6@taloa.unice.fr>
Hi,
1 - I tried 2 or 3 Cirrus-Logic last week. Apparently, we have the driver,
but the speed was more than 72 Hz. Top speed for our multiscan.
2 - In the same times I tried several ET4000 card. Screen allocation: 1024
* 768. Reality: 800 * 600 on the multiscan video screen.
Is someone meet similar problems? How resolve them? Is it du to driver or
du to little difference from one card to an other?
Do you know if new drivers will arrived ? For p9000 for example?
Thanks.
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| Universite de Nice - Sophia Antipolis |
| Parc Valrose, 06108 Nice Cedex 2, France |
| Tel (33)93.52.98.36, Fax 93.52.98.48 |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP can't see my CD_ROM
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul19.135915.15872@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 13:59:15 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <85792@cup.portal.com>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <85792@cup.portal.com>, Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com writes:
|>
|> I'm trying to install on a DELL 466M machine. I have an external
|> CD-ROM drive plugged in as SCSI Id 0, which works fine under DOS,
|> but the NS install program can't seem to see it (message "No
|> CD-ROM drive found")
Yup, seen this problem before, first thing, check SCSI termination. Is your CD-ROM terminated? (It should be)
|>
|> I also seem to be getting some Objective-C runtime error messages
|> from the install program (e.g. "configureDriver: Coulnd't find
|> class named SMC16")
|>
|> The following are all the messages (that hadn't already scrolled
|> off the screen) I got while trying to install:
|>
|> Resetting SCSI bus
|> Registering: hc0
|> IDE drive 0 using MultiSector Mode
|> Registering: hd0
|> Registering: hd0a
|> hd0: no valid disk label
|> hd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
|> hd0: Device Capacity: 432 Mb
|> Registering fc0:
|> Registering fd0:
|> Registering fd0a:
|> fd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
|> fd0: Device Capacity; 1440 Kb
|> fd0: Disk Label: Install_3.1
|> class `SMC16' not linked into application
|> configureDriver: Coulnd't find class named SMC16
|> class `EtherExpress16' not linked into application
|> configureDriver: Couldn't find class named EtherExpress16
|> Registering: VGADisplay0
|> Registering: event0
|> Registering: kmDevice0
|> No CD-ROM drive found:
|>
|> use sd%d, hd%d, or fd%d
|>
|> root device?
|>
|> Anybody seen these messages before, or know what to do about
|> them?
|>
Well by the looks of it, you are very close to getting this thing to install. If like I mentioned above, SCSI termination isn't the problem, time to go chasing after the IRQ #'s. You're most likely your SCSI card isn't set up quite right. What are you using for a SCSI card?
If you have an Adaptec card, I can help you.
|> Thanks,
|> Lee Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com
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From: Stelios_Makrinos@macbeth.bellcore.com (Stelios Makrinos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problem installing NEXTSTEP 3.1
Message-ID: <1993Jul19.143109.28110@walter.bellcore.com>
Date: 19 Jul 93 14:31:09 GMT
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Organization: Bell Communications Research
Hi,
Here at work, we just purchased a copy of NEXTSTEP 3.1 Evaluation Kit,
and we are trying to install it on a clone tower 486/33.
The installation started smoothly enough, but after the mini-system was
loaded and the system was rebooting to complete the installation, I get
mouse and keyboard errors and when the screen comes up, to let me choose
my system, the keyboard and mouse do not work.
They keyboard is a KB101 (PS/2 style keyboard). And the mouse is a
Microsoft Mouse.
Some of the errors I got were as follows:
Unexpected ack from keyboard.
Mouse init failure
Serial mouse not attached.
I checked the PCs configuration, and the serial ports as set to the
addressed specified in the installation booklet.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Stelios Makrinos
Bell Communications Research
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From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Subject: 2 bootable partitions on 1 harddisk?
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1993 19:25:14 GMT
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Is it possible to install 2 bootable partitions on 1 harddisk? However,
BuildDisk doesn't support it. You can only select an entire harddisk.
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From: botma@cs.utwente.nl (Bart Botma)
Subject: Re: NSFIP/ Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Message-ID: <1993Jul19.152258.15133@cs.utwente.nl>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 15:22:58 GMT
I saw those same messages again this afternoon (after
having missed my computer for a week due to delivery damage).
I read somewhere that you can eject the floppy disk after
the next title line appears. Maybe that helps. I didn't try
because my cd drive is still missing (also damaged by
the package delivery service). Please report to the net
if you find any clues/answers/solutions/ect.
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From: botma@cs.utwente.nl (Bart Botma)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP can't see my CD_ROM
Message-ID: <1993Jul19.153927.15316@cs.utwente.nl>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 15:39:27 GMT
Mine neither (EISA VLB/ATI VLB/3401B/DPT).
Unfortunately, my unit was damaged by the package transport service
and upon return at the supplier (which has to file suit)
they found out that the cd drive was defective. So, now I don't
know whether it was brooken in the first place (and the dpt
controller couldn't find it), or some settings were wrong.
Since more people have shared this agony this fault can not
only be hardware related.
Bart
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From: marc@ecu.unice.fr (Marc Monticelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Screen or video machine
Date: 19 Jul 1993 16:21:05 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Message-ID: <22ehlh$j5@taloa.unice.fr>
Hi,
is anyone heard about a video card with similar caracteristic as NeXTdim'
called screen machine or video machine from the UK ?
It seems that it exists for mac and intel.
Thanks for yours answers
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From: Ken Burner <kb13+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,pgh.next-users,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Next Broker?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 16:46:27 -0400
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Does anyone know of a computer broker who is interested in buying
NeXT hardware? We have about a dozen machines to sell and I'm having
trouble finding a buyer. Any suggestions? Please copy me directly on
replies, as I do not frequent these lists.
-Ken Burner
Carnegie Mellon Computing Services
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From: kovacs@next.ilab.sztaki.hu (Laszlo Kovacs)
Subject: Keyboard and mouse pass away - Overheating problem? HELP needed
Message-ID: <CAFI2A.Dys@sztaki.hu>
Keywords: hardware failure
Sender: news@sztaki.hu (News system)
Organization: Computer and Automation Institute
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 20:25:22 GMT
After several minutes (1-30) the keyboard and mouse go away and even the
ROM monitor can't be reached. Only the Power button responds but the other
buttons are completely dead (therefore I can't switch off).
And now the interesting point:
After immediate unplugging and reboot the boot process stops at the
hardware test (just after Sound Out) and the keyboard is dead again. If we
wait several minutes the machine boots again well but this error occurs
again after several minutes (1-30) run without any problem. If the system
is booted properly it can be reached from the network and everything seems
to be OK but the local keyboard and mouse are down. This happened with
other keyboards as well. It seems to be a real hardware failure
(overheating ???).
I run a NeXTstation mono (25Mhz) with 32MB RAM, 100MB internal disk (under
3.0 System). The temperature of the office is relatively very high with
high humidity.
ANY HELP IS WELCOMED.
We are completely orphaned as even a single NeXTdealer doesn't exist here
in Hungary.
P.S. This text is written when the cover of the station is off.
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From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Subject: Re: Screen or video machine
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 18:45:08 GMT
Message-ID: <CAFDF9.71u@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
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In article <22ehlh$j5@taloa.unice.fr> marc@ecu.unice.fr (Marc Monticelli)
writes:
> Hi,
> is anyone heard about a video card with similar caracteristic as
NeXTdim'
> called screen machine or video machine from the UK ?
> It seems that it exists for mac and intel.
>
> Thanks for yours answers
(written while perusing the promotional brochure...)
The Screen Machine II is a "16-bit" card for PC's running NS/FIP 3.1 or
higher. Not clear if it's ISA or what. Has 3 video inputs for composite
and SVHS, supports NTSC, PAL, SECAM, has bundled video effects (negative,
zoom, posterizing, etc.), 24-bit color, 1MB frame store, and a proprietary
"Animator" module that sounds sort of like Quicktime (allows you to record
and play back short video clips, and distrbute them w/ a runtime player).
It can grab frames, record short videos, and manipulate them, it seems, as
well as allow live video viewing. It DOES NOT do video output. A hardware
compression daughterboard is promised soon, and optional add-ons include a
TV tuner and stereo audio output. The NeXTSTEP software bundled with it
seems to allow a lot of control for developers, including the ability to
address the board as you would a NeXTdimension. Alembic Systems are
distributing it in the USA, d'ART in Europe (I think). All in all, not a
bad set-up, and currently the only thing on the market to do video stuff
on a NeXTSTEP PC. US price from Alembic in the neighborhood of $1800.00
for the basic model.
I don't work for Alembic Systems or FAST Electronics; I'm just interested
in NeXT multimedia. Hope this helps; I left out a lot of stuff. Ask d'ART
or someone for a brochure. Any errors are mine alone.
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on IBM Thinkpad?
Date: 19 Jul 1993 23:51:13 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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References: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
tom nawara <nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu> writes:
> Does anyone (everyone) know if NS will run on IBM's Thinkpad.
> Specifically the color one - I think it's the 700C or something
> like that. My dad is sold on the Thinkpad, and I might have him
> sold on NS - if it runs on it.
Which got helpful responses from
iraf@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ira Frosch)
and tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Well, for what it's worth: I'll be interested in hearing about anyone's
successes on a color Thinkpad. I intend to buy an NS-Intel box sometime
soon, and I'm still torn between getting a portable (such as a Thinkpad) or
getting some workstation-ish machine. I'd kinda like a Thinkpad, if the
hard disk is big enough (or I could hook up a large scsi disk when "docked"
at home), and if my bank account can afford all this.
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From: pwm@csis.dit.csiro.au (Peter Milne)
Subject: remapping bad disk blocks
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.001529.18620@csis.dit.csiro.au>
Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 00:15:29 GMT
I've had a couple of recent instances where a bad block was reported on
my NeXTSTATION's internal disk. The most recent was:
Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 65fe0H retry 1
Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 65fe0H retry 2
I didn't note the details of the previous error which happenned a couple of
weeks ago, however it was successful after a second retry. Unfortunately
I don't know whether it was on the same block or not.
A week or so after the first error my file system got corrupted and I had
to re-initialize the disk. Following this most recent error I can't help
wondering if a bad block was responsible for crashing the file system.
Whilst I understand that one probably needn't get too worried about a very
occasional bad block being reported, especially if they are different blocks,
I would like to find out what options I have for remapping bad blocks on
a NeXTSTATION. I've consulted the manuals and online documentation without
finding anything. In particular can you remap blocks without having to
rebuild the whole disk?
Thanks,
Peter
(milne@csis.dit.csito.au)
From: sotoc@frith.egr.msu.edu (Ciro Soto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printer problem
Date: 20 Jul 1993 00:43:50 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University
Distribution: world
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I want to see the FAQ file about the NeXT printer.
The paper is getting jammed all times.
Where can I find the FAQ files?
Thanks
ciro
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From: bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz)
Subject: Age-old OD problem. Fix?
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.012925.7112@mdd.comm.mot.com>
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Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 01:29:25 GMT
Hi, I've come upon an original Cube with the optical drive that had been
sitting around a while unused. Last week, the
drive began shutting down and starting up until I rebooted. After that,
it seems to be physically impossible to insert a disk. Over poring over
the archives, it seems that this problem was quite prevalent earlier but
other than sending the drive back under warranty, there was no solution
listed. Note that my fan was blowing the correct way into the cube.
Does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? Any clues would
be appreciated.
Thanks,
Martin Bublitz
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,cmu.misc.market.computers
Subject: NeXT Mono Workstation for Sale
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 22:00:32 -0400
Organization: Club account, Campus Activities Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4gGp70200WB34WnnoI@andrew.cmu.edu>
68040 Mono Workstation
4 megs of RAM
100 meg HD
CD-ROM Player
Monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc.
NeXT Step 3.0 on CD ROM
All original boxes
Please make a reasonable offer.
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From: basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS on IBM Thinkpad?
Date: 20 Jul 1993 02:46:08 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <22fm9g$gd@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <22fc1h$5ar@usenet.rpi.edu>
My dream system is a Thinkpad-class machine docked to an external
monitor, hard drive and keyboard. The internal drive would be my
DOS partition while the external monitor would be at 1024x768.
While away from the dock, I'd run DOS and (gag) Windows for games
and portable notetaking. When docked, I'd use Nextstep exclusively
and would choose my wordprocessors to be compatible across the systems.
Naturally, this will never happen for a variety of reasons. (not the
least of which is the lack of a high-speed bus for video...sigh)
David Basiji
UW Bioengineering
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Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer mechanical problem
Message-ID: <CAFM1A.4zq@hawk.cs.ukans.edu>
From: stubbs@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Jerry Stubbs)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 21:51:10 GMT
References: <CA4L07.A0n@dove.nist.gov> <CA9t45.MEE@hawk.cs.ukans.edu>
Organization: University of Kansas Computer Science Dept
That gear is from Chenesko; 800-221-3516
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Cube On Side
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 03:35:39 GMT
In article <CAEBzn.7x@fafnir.com> mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
writes:
#Is it a bad idea to operate a Cube on its side? This is a fairly old
#one, as Cubes go, with an OD and a 330M internal. We're trying to put
#things into a cabinet, and the Cube is a tad too tall.
You ever thought of removing the feet and putting some of the shorter PC
adhesive feet on the cube. The standard cube feet are kind of tall.
Kent
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From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: python DAT drives
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.070611.845@moksha.uucp>
Keywords: dump parameters
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 07:06:11 GMT
I know that the Archive python 4mm DAT will work with a NeXT. Can someone
kindly tell me the blocksize (variable or 512 for example ) and density
to use with dump ?
Thanks ....
e-mail if you wish: mgb@stetson.bitnet or mgb@moksha.uucp
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From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Cube On Side
Message-ID: <CAGpG7.Bzx@news.cis.umn.edu>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 12:00:58 GMT
kent@infoserv.com wrote:
: In article <CAEBzn.7x@fafnir.com> mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
: writes:
: #Is it a bad idea to operate a Cube on its side? This is a fairly old
: #one, as Cubes go, with an OD and a 330M internal. We're trying to put
: #things into a cabinet, and the Cube is a tad too tall.
: You ever thought of removing the feet and putting some of the shorter PC
: adhesive feet on the cube. The standard cube feet are kind of tall.
Keep in mind that the ventilation holes are on the bottom so there does
need to be sufficient clearance. Use good judgement...
peter
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From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Subject: Sony Megapixel Display: Service Manual?
Message-ID: <1993Jul19.120326.706@aplki.toppoint.de>
Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Organization: Andreas Ploeger
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 93 12:03:26 GMT
Hi,
Does anybody know where to get service manuals (especially schematics) for
NeXT's monochrome Megapixel display (Model N 4000). It's a Sony (SMC 311A).
Thanks,
Andreas
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From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: python DAT drives
Date: 20 Jul 1993 13:25:49 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <22grot$qjl@nic.umass.edu>
References: <1993Jul20.070611.845@moksha.uucp>
Michael Branton (mgb@moksha.uucp) wrote:
: I know that the Archive python 4mm DAT will work with a NeXT. Can someone
: kindly tell me the blocksize (variable or 512 for example ) and density
: to use with dump ?
I would like to know the same thing...so if you have the answer, please mail
me too (or post it).
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
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From: laux@lxki.toppoint.de (Thorsten Laux)
Subject: Re: Dell and Adaptec
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.120709.6512@lxki.toppoint.de>
Organization: Private uucp site
References: <1993Jul16.184504.12770@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 12:07:09 GMT
jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) writes:
>Has anyone got the below error on there system and been able to fix
>it?
>AHA interrupt: bad status ff
>sd0: INVALID STATUS (Internal error): FATAL ERROR
> target:0 lun: 0 op: Read block: some # blockcount: some #
I have exactly the same problem trying to install Nextstep for Intel
on 2 different Eisa Systems with ATI ISA Ultra Pro and another
Graphics Card and a 1542b Controller. I suspect you cannot get the
1542b to work in an Eisa System. Has anybody succeeded in doing this ?
Thorsten Laux
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Re: NS on IBM Thinkpad?
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.110839.1089@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>
Sender: harit@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu
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References: <22fm9g$gd@news.u.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 93 11:08:39 GMT
In article <22fm9g$gd@news.u.washington.edu>
basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>
> My dream system is a Thinkpad-class machine docked to an external
> monitor, hard drive and keyboard. The internal drive would be my
> DOS partition while the external monitor would be at 1024x768.
> While away from the dock, I'd run DOS and (gag) Windows for games
> and portable notetaking. When docked, I'd use Nextstep exclusively
> and would choose my wordprocessors to be compatible across the
systems.
>
> Naturally, this will never happen for a variety of reasons. (not
the
> least of which is the lack of a high-speed bus for video...sigh)
>
> David Basiji
> UW Bioengineering
Look at the NEC Versa it has VLB video and runs NeXTSTEP as well as
any 640x480 portable could. The 25Mhz speed is a bit limiting but
not bad if you plan to do light work.
--
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: NS on IBM Thinkpad?
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.140027.28468@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 14:00:27 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <22fc1h$5ar@usenet.rpi.edu> <22fm9g$gd@news.u.washington.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <22fm9g$gd@news.u.washington.edu>, basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
|>
|> My dream system is a Thinkpad-class machine ....
|>
|> David Basiji
|> UW Bioengineering
My opinion too. The Thinkpad is a wonderful portable. (The color is even right too! ;-) ) The harddisk on the thinkpads are modular so you can say, purchase two harddisks, and plug and play the operating system of choice before booting.
But the fly in my soup when it comes to portables and running NeXTSTEP on them, is simply, 640x480 just doesn't hack it as a viable resolution for running NeXTSTEP. I've done it for a while and it certainly was painful at times. The resolution is a drag on one's productivity. You can do things, just not alot of things.....
I settled for a Desktop system, and I wouldn't trade it for a world right now.... (tho I must admit I have dreamed of a thinkpad, running NeXTSTEP, with a cellular modem, running SLIP, ftping or telneting into the net, from anywhere on the planet.... 8-) )
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From: mcconnap@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Andy McConnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on Zeos machines?
Date: 20 Jul 1993 14:39:20 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <22h02o$fno@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
I've heard some good points about Zeos machines, but it would all be for naught
if NS wouldn't work. Has anyone tried or heard of any success (or failures?)
- Andy
--
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Fluid Science Learning Center Developer
Lt, USAF CS BS '93 Rose-Hulman Institute Of Technology
"The beaurocratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby)
Subject: trouble Installing on Gateway
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.100801.902@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
Distribution: hardware, misc,sysadmin
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 10:08:01 GMT
We are trying to install NEXTSTEP on a Gateway 4DX2-66V with a
microsoft mouse on com1 irq4, and have ran into a snag. We fixxed
the keyboard jumber and booted off the floppy just fine. It loaded
the sytem on the harddisk and rebooted. While it was rebooting it
said somthing to the effect that it was probing for the mouse and
didn't find it.
It then came all the way up to the panal that asks what kind of
machine you have, but we had no mouse or keboard. If you boot in
single user mode, in UNIX, we can use the keyboard, but one we get up
in NEXTSTEP it doesnt work any more.
ANY IDEAS!!!!
From: traupman-jonathan@yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Installing NS/i on clone hardware
Date: 20 Jul 1993 12:37:47 -0400
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <22h70rINNnhn@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>
Keywords: NeXTstep,intel,clone
Has anyone had any success installing NS/i on clone hardware similar to:
AIR EISA/VLB motherboard
ATI GUP video card (VLB)
Bustek 747 EISA SCSI
Viewsonic V7 monitor
Fujitsu 1080MB hard drive
Serial mouse
I am planning to purchase a system like this to run NeXTstep and would greatly
appreciate any reports of success/failure as well as any suggestion of
particular install pitfalls. Thanks.
Also, has anyone successfully used the NEC Intersect CDR-74 CDROM drive to
install NS. I've heard some problems about it and the DPT card, but I've
heard nothing about it and either the Adaptec or Bustek boards.
Thanks alot,
Jon
--
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From: blaw@bogus.next.com (Bassanio Law)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: looking for a HSD modem
Date: 19 Jul 1993 22:21:43 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <22f6pn$jta@rosie.next.com>
Seeking a fax modem for a PC running NEXTSTEP. I prefer the HSD because of
the plug and play (no extra software) advantage. I will pay fair market
price for any used or new modem in good working condition (original
documentation strongly prefered).
Please email blaw@next.com or call 415-780-4645. Thanks!
-Bassanio
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker)
Subject: Re: python DAT drives
Message-ID: <CAH4Ft.I68@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology
References: <1993Jul20.070611.845@moksha.uucp> <22grot$qjl@nic.umass.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 17:26:14 GMT
In article <22grot$qjl@nic.umass.edu> fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD) writes:
>Michael Branton (mgb@moksha.uucp) wrote:
>: I know that the Archive python 4mm DAT will work with a NeXT. Can someone
>: kindly tell me the blocksize (variable or 512 for example ) and density
>: to use with dump ?
>
>I would like to know the same thing...so if you have the answer, please mail
>me too (or post it).
dump 0ufs /dev/rst0 120000
Works fine for me.
Steve
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From: rmarano@astro.ge.com (Robert F Marano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WANTED --> NeXT Station or CUBE or Dimension COLOR System
Date: 20 Jul 1993 13:36:52 -0400
Organization: G.E./Martin Marietta AstroSpace
Sender: rmarano@astro.ge.com
Message-ID: <22hafkINNjk3@np1153.astro.ge.com>
Summary: NeXT enthusiast wants a NeXT to purchase!
Keywords: NeXT Station Cube Dimension workstation
To all those NeXT workstation owners:
My name is Rob Marano and I am a NeXT enthusiast! I have had to wait
a long time till I got the opportunity to buy a NeXT workstation. So
now is the time for me to buy and be happy! So here is the used NeXT I
would like to purchase:
1- NeXT COLOR Station, Cube, or Dimension `040 system
2- Color MegaPixel or equivalent NeXT compatible monitor
3- NeXT or compatible CD-ROM drive
4- NeXT 400dpi laser printer w/cables
5- NeXT Step 3.0 or higher operating system
6- Mathematica 2.0 or higher, WriteNow, and whatever other
software goodies
7- if possible, X-Window binaries
8- if possible, c/c++ compiler
9- optical drive
10- any other NeXT goodies, such as SoftPC, Adobe Illustrator, etc..
If you could furnish any of the above goodies, the little kid inside me
would truly appreciate the offer! Please contact me as soon as possible,
I would like to have the system in my hands before Christmas!
Have a fun-tastic day and thank you,
Rob Marano
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| AstroSpace Division | Mel Brooks |
| ====================================================================== |
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From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cube On Side
Date: 20 Jul 1993 19:20:33 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <22hgi1INNr6a@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <CAEBzn.7x@fafnir.com> <CAG1zF.II@infoserv.com>
In article <CAG1zF.II@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com writes:
>In article <CAEBzn.7x@fafnir.com> mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
>writes:
>#Is it a bad idea to operate a Cube on its side? This is a fairly old
>#one, as Cubes go, with an OD and a 330M internal. We're trying to put
>#things into a cabinet, and the Cube is a tad too tall.
>
>You ever thought of removing the feet and putting some of the shorter PC
>adhesive feet on the cube. The standard cube feet are kind of tall.
Do this only if you're certain that the lower height won't adversely affect
cooling air flow through the vents on the bottom of the Cube. Apparently
setting a Cube on pile carpet isn't a great idea due to the airflow restriction
this causes.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
From: cosc176t@menudo.uh.edu (Jason Asbahr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Hardware Wanted/Recommendations?
Date: 20 Jul 1993 19:18:43 GMT
Organization: /posole/cosc176t/.organization
Message-ID: <COSC176T.93Jul20141843@menudo.uh.edu>
Greets...
I'm looking for price/dealer recommendations for:
- SCSI Floppies
- B&W and Color Page Scanners
I'm also interested in talking to any net-person who has these
items for sale.
Also, what's the status of HSD software these days?
Thanks!
--
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asbahr@uh.edu Houston, Texas 77034
asbahr@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXTmail) (713) 941-8294 voice
asbahr@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov UH NeXT Consultant
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles@oneworld.wa.com
Subject: Re: NS on Zeos machines?
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.181321.5627@oneworld.wa.com>
Organization: OneWorld Enterprises/OneWorld Computing Resources
References: <22h02o$fno@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 18:13:21 GMT
Andy McConnell (mcconnap@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu) wrote:
: I've heard some good points about Zeos machines, but it would all be for naught
: if NS wouldn't work. Has anyone tried or heard of any success (or failures?)
:
: - Andy
: --
: Andy McConnell mcconnap@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
: Fluid Science Learning Center Developer
: Lt, USAF CS BS '93 Rose-Hulman Institute Of Technology
: "The beaurocratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Really? You heard something good about Zeos machines? I can't imagine
what...
.... a very dissatisfied zeos customer......
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jwdb@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl (Jan-Willem de Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Problem installing NEXTSTEP 3.1
Message-ID: <jwdb.743191578@dutnak2>
Sender: news@dutrun2.tudelft.nl (UseNet News System)
Organization: Delft University of Technology
References: <1993Jul19.143109.28110@walter.bellcore.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 18:06:18 GMT
In <1993Jul19.143109.28110@walter.bellcore.com> Stelios_Makrinos@macbeth.bellcore.com (Stelios Makrinos) writes:
Sorry to have a kind of me-too posting, but our problem is almost
exactly the same. I'll give a hardware specification below this excerpt
of the original post.
>The installation started smoothly enough, but after the mini-system was
>loaded and the system was rebooting to complete the installation, I get
>mouse and keyboard errors and when the screen comes up, to let me choose
>my system, the keyboard and mouse do not work.
>They keyboard is a KB101 (PS/2 style keyboard). And the mouse is a
>Microsoft Mouse.
>Some of the errors I got were as follows:
>Unexpected ack from keyboard.
>Mouse init failure
>Serial mouse not attached.
We have:
VESA Localbus CPU board with 16 MB,
IDE disk controller 428 MB,
Adaptec 1542 B SCSI controller,
ATI Ultra Pro VLB graphics card,
Logitech serial mouse (COM1: IRQ#4),
CD-ROM drive on SCSI id 0.
Some combination of ATI card, CPU board and floppy drive controller
does not work together. The floppy just gives out gibberish.
Configuring the ATI card to its slowest mode relieves this problem.
Installing went OK, although the keyboard and mouse messages mentioned
above also appeared. Our hardware specialist said that the mouse on
IRQ#12 (which is what the system figured out by itself) may not be right.
But how to change this?
The fact is, only after everything was installed, and the screen
appeared where one is asked to choose a language and keyboard, did
the mouse fail. Where before, while configuring the devices, it was
working OK. The keyboard still functions, but hey! no one can live
without a mouse.
We blundered on by pressing RETURN a few times and got a realistic
looking workspace for the user 'me', but no mouse functionality. It
stays frozen in one spot, although it shows disk activity with a spinning
disk. As long as you can do without the mouse (sort-of single tasking),
like using a Terminal window, you're alright. :-)
Anyone with these kind of symptoms, know what to do about them?
Thanks in advance,
Jan-Willem
--
Jan-Willem de Bruijn jwdb@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl
Lab. of Seismics and Acoustics NeXT-mail: jwdb@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl
Dep. of Applied Physics Discipline is never an end in itself,
Delft University of Technology only a means to an end.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: roland@spock.choate.edu (Dave Braun)
Subject: NS/i Video Boards
Message-ID: <CAHCIw.ADt@choate.edu>
Sender: usenet@choate.edu
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 20:20:56 GMT
I am looking to get NS/i and will get a new local bus motherboard and video
board for it - I need to know what video boards are supported - it Standard
ET4000 supported? I'd appreciate someone sending me a list of what boards
NS/i supports...
<roland>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: successful nextstep installation tale
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.202504.25889@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Sender: usenet@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 20:25:04 GMT
Spent most of my Saturday struggling with NSFIP installation. The system
was a Gateway 2000 486DX2 66 EISA:
Ultrastor 24F SCSI adapter
Adaptec 1540 SCSI adapter (yes, 2)
ATI EISA Ultra Pro w/ 2Mb RAM
16Mb RAM
500Mb SCSI hard drive
After switching the floppy drives so that 3 1/2 was A and then disabling
the 5 1/4" all together, borrowing a CDROM drive, removing the Ultrastor
and installing the Adaptec, and installing a new floppy controller, then
running the dreaded EISA configuration utilities, which take about a week
to do anything, we began the install. Every time it hung at the floppy
driver, with a message about timing out. We tried 3 additional floppy
controllers, with the same problem. So then we removed the adaptec, and
the floppy controller and just tried booting with the installation disk
and the Ultrastor card in place. Of course it didn't work, but the floppy
problem was gone and it instead could not find the hard drive. Strangely
enough, this was a breakthrough. I decided to use the Ultrastor 24F EISA
SCSI adapter as a floppy controller only. So we reinstalled the Adaptec
1540 SCSI adapter, and tried to install Nextstep again. It worked
flawlessly. NS is in color at 1024 x 768 and is quite speedy. We do have
an intermittent problem with the mouse. If after a system shut down, you
do not either turn off the power or hit the reset key, when NS comes back
up the mouse does not work. Despite removing the PS/2 driver, it is
mentioned in boot up, although invisible to Configure.app. But this is a
minor glitch.
I hope this helps someone with their installation. I hope there is an
UltraStor 24F driver in Next's future . . .
--
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From: jzinn@plevy (Joel Zinn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: modems
Date: 20 Jul 1993 20:34:32 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <22hkso$3dp@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: ZyXEL
I am having trouble getting a ZyXEL 1496E+ to dial out or accept
incoming calls. Has anyone done this on the NeXT? Any ideas?
I've tried using SLIP and kermit as well as just using a dumb terminal
without software.
Please contact me directly at jzinn@math.tamu.edu
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Talus Imaging's phone # ??
Date: 20 Jul 1993 21:10:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <22hmvc$chv@agate.berkeley.edu>
I am looking for the phone # of Talus Imaging.
Can anyone tell me?
I want to get ImageMate but can't get the ordering info.
Thanks.
--
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USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jon@afs.com
Subject: Another floppy-in-cube question
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.190933.2484@afs.com>
Sender: jon@afs.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 19:09:33 GMT
Does anyone know if it would be possible to use a 1.44 meg floppy in a cube? I
can yank one out of my dead Mac and use it, if it's possible. It would even
have auto sensing/eject. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
--
Jon Hendry It's a thousand classes, give or take a few,
<jon@afs.com> I'll be writing more in a week or two.
I can make it deeper if you like the style,
I can change it round and I want to be an ObjectWare Writer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: Installing NS/i on clone hardware
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.223253.40541@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 22:32:53 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <22h70rINNnhn@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: NeXTstep,intel,clone
In article <22h70rINNnhn@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>, traupman-jonathan@yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman) writes:
|> Has anyone had any success installing NS/i on clone hardware similar to:
|>
|> AIR EISA/VLB motherboard
|> ATI GUP video card (VLB)
|> Bustek 747 EISA SCSI
|> Viewsonic V7 monitor
|> Fujitsu 1080MB hard drive
|> Serial mouse
|>
|> I am planning to purchase a system like this to run NeXTstep and would greatly
|> appreciate any reports of success/failure as well as any suggestion of
|> particular install pitfalls. Thanks.
|>
Yup, I have a very similiar system setup. Mine is:
AIR EISA VLB motherboard (24 Meg Ram)
ATI GUP VLB video card (local bus)
Adaptec 1542B SCSI card
KFC 17" flatscreen monitor
Quantum 3.5" SCSI 512 Meg harddisk
Microsoft Serial mouse
NEC 74 Multispin CD-ROM
Works just great!
Only pitfall, make sure to change the mouse from PS/2Mouse to Serial mouse on setup or the mouse won't work. PS/2MOUSE is the default.
|> Also, has anyone successfully used the NEC Intersect CDR-74 CDROM drive to
|> install NS. I've heard some problems about it and the DPT card, but I've
|> heard nothing about it and either the Adaptec or Bustek boards.
|>
Hmmm my NEC 74 and Adaptec seem to get along just fine. No problems to report. I have not tried to play audio CDs or use photo CDs yet tho....
|> Thanks alot,
|> Jon
|> --
|> Jonathan Traupman |<-- not here for the summer. At:
|> PO Box 3124 Yale Station |1019 Prospect Ave.
|> New Haven, CT 06520-3124 |Bethlehem, PA 18018
|> jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu |(215) 868-4819s
--
bottem line, don't know about the SCSI card....besides that, I know you'll like it. OOOOooooo and one more thing, make sure the monitor can support all kinds of funny scan rates. I've heard stories about cheaper monitors not being able to handle the 1024x768 color mode scan rate.
tgall@rchvmw2.vnet.ibm.com (work -- NeXTMail NOT ok)
_________________________________________________________________________
|o|Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed |o|
|o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o|
|o|Performance Tools III -- Marvin Martian ____ |o|
|o|006-2 / B209 /\___\ |o|
|o|IBM Rochester 3-4558 #include<std.disclaimer.h> \/___/ |o|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: Problem installing NEXTSTEP 3.1
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul20.222624.36628@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 22:26:24 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1993Jul19.143109.28110@walter.bellcore.com> <jwdb.743191578@dutnak2>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <jwdb.743191578@dutnak2>, jwdb@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl (Jan-Willem de Bruijn) writes:
|> In <1993Jul19.143109.28110@walter.bellcore.com> Stelios_Makrinos@macbeth.bellcore.com (Stelios Makrinos) writes:
|>
[story of woah removed...]
|>
|> Installing went OK, although the keyboard and mouse messages mentioned
|> above also appeared. Our hardware specialist said that the mouse on
|> IRQ#12 (which is what the system figured out by itself) may not be right.
|> But how to change this?
well you'll want to figure out how to change the IRQ on your mouse. IRQ 12
is not right.
But you did say you had a logitech set at IRQ 4...which does sound right.
|> The fact is, only after everything was installed, and the screen
|> appeared where one is asked to choose a language and keyboard, did
|> the mouse fail. Where before, while configuring the devices, it was
|> working OK. The keyboard still functions, but hey! no one can live
|> without a mouse.
By the sounds of THIS, you installed the wrong mouse driver. On the initial
setup screen, after the very first reboot, (this is the screen where you set your
video mode, mouse, Ethernet card, sound etc), the mouse setup DEFAULTS
to a PS/2MOUSE. You MUST change this to a serial mouse.
If you can navigate the Workspace with the keyboard and fire up the
Configure.app from /NextAdmin great, if you can't, you've got to reinstall from
the ground up. sorry 8-( (You may have to anyway, simply because, NeXTSTEP
doesn't allow the user to control the mouse from the keyboard....HINT HINT
NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK WINK are you folks who work at NeXT listening??)
|> We blundered on by pressing RETURN a few times and got a realistic
|> looking workspace for the user 'me', but no mouse functionality. It
|> stays frozen in one spot, although it shows disk activity with a spinning
|> disk. As long as you can do without the mouse (sort-of single tasking),
|> like using a Terminal window, you're alright. :-)
|>
|> Anyone with these kind of symptoms, know what to do about them?
|>
|> Thanks in advance,
|>
|> Jan-Willem
|>
|>
|> --
|> Jan-Willem de Bruijn jwdb@dutnak2.tn.tudelft.nl
|> Lab. of Seismics and Acoustics NeXT-mail: jwdb@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl
|> Dep. of Applied Physics Discipline is never an end in itself,
|> Delft University of Technology only a means to an end.
Best of Luck!
--
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_________________________________________________________________________
|o|Tom Gall "Where's the ka-boom? There was supposed |o|
|o|Dept 45 N to be an earth shattering ka-boom!" |o|
|o|Performance Tools III -- Marvin Martian ____ |o|
|o|006-2 / B209 /\___\ |o|
|o|IBM Rochester 3-4558 #include<std.disclaimer.h> \/___/ |o|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller)
Subject: Re: Screen or video machine
Message-ID: <IRKFBF0L@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Sender: news@gwdu03.gwdg.de (USENET News System)
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <22ehlh$j5@taloa.unice.fr>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 13:29:02 GMT
Marc Monticelli (marc@ecu.unice.fr) wrote:
: Hi,
: is anyone heard about a video card with similar caracteristic as NeXTdim'
: called screen machine or video machine from the UK ?
: It seems that it exists for mac and intel.
Thats true. You can get info on ScreenMachine II for NSI at
info@interpc.de
Distribution is made by d'Art in Germany. There's also a big ad in the
last issue of NeXTworld.
: Thanks for yours answers
You're welcome
Meinrad
--
Meinrad Zeller
Foehrenweg 1
D-37077 Goettingen
Tel.: +49-551-300095
Email: mzeller@gwdg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pitre@n5160d.nrl.navy.mil (Richard Pitre)
Subject: NS on portables
Message-ID: <CAIpI3.HvM@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Keywords: portables
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 13:58:50 GMT
I need a portable machine to run Nextstep.
What are the problems and limitations with doing this.
If anyone knows of anything that works well, please post.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: How about NS/I on a clone like this?
Message-ID: <1993Jul21.150635.22462@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 15:06:35 GMT
I've been given a quote for the following, but would like to know it it
will indeed run NeXTSTEP:
1) 486 DX2/66 and Ocean DCA MB (dynamic cache) with 256K internal
cache.
2) Amax Impression 17" monitor (0.26" dot, non-interlaced, 1280x1024).
3) BusLogic BT-445S SCSI controller (VL-bus).
4) Diamond Viper with 2 MB VRAM and Weitek Processor.
Many thanks. I'd be pleased to give my business to the local guy offering
to make up this system, but he knows PCs, not NeXTSTEP.
Dick Silbar (NeXTMail acceptable)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby)
Subject: FIP Gateway problems
Message-ID: <1993Jul21.132831.4130@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 13:28:31 GMT
Thanks for all the responces that I received reguarding mouse
problems with the Gateway.......
Most of the problem was the cables for the on board serial port were
crossed. (Thanks Mitch).
Well, we got it installed, the configure app came up, and we had
keyboard, and mouse!! any way even though we were running a serial
mouse, the configure app had ps2mouse selected.
We figured "Its working good like this lets leave it alone"
BIG MISTAKE! After a reboot, it came up fine except no more mouse.
Well later in the evening we got another message from Mitch message
detailing his gateway installation that said something like this:
PICKING A MOUSE
Although I have a Logitech bus mouse, NEXTSTEP seems to want you to
use a PS/2 mouse instead. When you get to the Configure application
during the installation, only the PS/2 mouse appears in the window,
even though NEXTSTEP knows you have a bus mouse and is letting you
use it. (The same thing is true if you're using a serial mouse;
NEXTSTEP still only shows the PS/2 mouse in Configure.) You *can*,
however, add the bus or serial mouse: click the Add button, and Bus
Mouse and Serial Mouse appear in a new, bigger list of choices. You
can also remove the PS/2 mouse while you're at it. If you don't
choose the kind of mouse you're using in Configure (and you're not
using a PS/2 mouse), your mouse won't work when you finish the
installation.
======================================================
Well the same thing goes with serial mice, but we already screwed up.
Does any one know how to reboot the NEXTSTEP so that it starts up
with the configure panal like it does on the inital startup instead
of going into NEXTSTEP. Maybe we could have mouse control, and reset
it to a serial mouse..
If not, does anyone know what files could be edited by hand to set
up the serial mouse insted of the PS2 mouse.
Thanks
Rick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque)
Subject: 1542B & over 1 Gb capacity
Message-ID: <1993Jul21.155158.6812@cubx.com>
Sender: news@cubx.com
Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 15:51:58 GMT
Guys,
we have tried to use an Adaptec 1542B (in a Dell 466ME) with disks over 1
Gb and it is a "no-no". You'll never format those drive at maximum
capacity. Instead you'll have a "small" 1023 Mb...
The 1542C solves the problem
Just thought, I'd tell you...
Ed.
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: FIP Gateway problems
Date: 21 Jul 1993 18:20:32 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <22k1dg$ml2@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1993Jul21.132831.4130@ToTSySSoft.com>
In article <1993Jul21.132831.4130@ToTSySSoft.com> rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) writes:
[misc deleted]
>
>Well, we got it installed, the configure app came up, and we had
>keyboard, and mouse!! any way even though we were running a serial
>mouse, the configure app had ps2mouse selected.
>We figured "Its working good like this lets leave it alone"
>BIG MISTAKE! After a reboot, it came up fine except no more mouse.
>
Very annoying, especially since they updated NextAnswers for Gateway
a few days ago. Didn't mention a thing about this. This topic has
been the subject of much discussion here, so it wasn't a complete surprise.
>PICKING A MOUSE
>
>Although I have a Logitech bus mouse, NEXTSTEP seems to want you to
>use a PS/2 mouse instead. When you get to the Configure application
>during the installation, only the PS/2 mouse appears in the window,
>even though NEXTSTEP knows you have a bus mouse and is letting you
>use it. (The same thing is true if you're using a serial mouse;
>NEXTSTEP still only shows the PS/2 mouse in Configure.) You *can*,
>however, add the bus or serial mouse: click the Add button, and Bus
>Mouse and Serial Mouse appear in a new, bigger list of choices. You
>can also remove the PS/2 mouse while you're at it. If you don't
>choose the kind of mouse you're using in Configure (and you're not
>using a PS/2 mouse), your mouse won't work when you finish the
>installation.
>======================================================
>
>
>Well the same thing goes with serial mice, but we already screwed up.
>Does any one know how to reboot the NEXTSTEP so that it starts up
>with the configure panal like it does on the inital startup instead
>of going into NEXTSTEP. Maybe we could have mouse control, and reset
>it to a serial mouse..
>
>If not, does anyone know what files could be edited by hand to set
>up the serial mouse insted of the PS2 mouse.
>
I had the same problem on an install last night. I edited
/usr/Device/System.config/Instance0.table (I hope this is correct,
my NS/FIP is at home). I added SerialMouse and SerialPorts to Both lines
that listed drivers. This is probably not entirely correct, but it was
late, I was tired and use at your own risk.
My configuration:
Gateway 4DX2-66 with GXJ03 (or whatever) Bios, Microsoft Serial Mouse
W7 installed as in the latest NextAnswer Bulletin on Gateway machines,
IDE disk with dos and next partitions.
When I couldn't use my mouse I used Alt L to get workspace into
Listing mode, used the cursor keys to navigate to /NextApps/Terminal then
Return to run. From then on I was able to do an su and cd over to
the directories I needed mess with. You could boot with -s to
get into single user mode as well, but vi doesn't work real well so I
punted.
I strongly suggest making a copy of any file BEFORE you change anything.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Looking for competent 486-NS vendors
Message-ID: <69499@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 21 Jul 93 19:02:07 GMT
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: U of Maryland, Center for Automation Research, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
I am considering buying a 486 machine to run NS.
I haven't made up my mind as to which machine it will be,
so I'd like to call up some companies to check out their offers.
Since NS 3.1 imposes some restrictions on the kind of peripherals
that can be used, I would like to get in touch with sales/tech persons
who are familiar with NS and its requirements.
If you know of any such person (at Gateway, Dell, NEC, etc), please send
me their name, company, phone/fax (+extension #), email.
Since this is of potential interest to many netters, I will post a summary
to this Newsgroup.
Thanks, Greg.
******************************************************************************
* Gregory Baratoff e-mail : baratoff@cfar.umd.edu *
* Center for Automation Research *
* University of Maryland *
* College Park, MD 20742 *
******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Subject: INSTALLATION NS/i PROBLEM SOLVED !
Message-ID: <1993Jul21.194540.5556@cc.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 19:45:40 GMT
To everyone on the net who may have had this problem.
System: Compaq 486/66M
Qvision graphics
NEC CD-ROM 74-1 SCSI id 1
Quatum 1225S SCSI id 0
NEC Multisync 5gf
DPT 2012/B/90
SMC elite 16 card.
Problem 1. Would not recognize cd-rom in system.
Then: Configure DPT card for IRQ 15 edge trigerred.
Choose I/O mode to secondary/non bootable.
This with the EISA configure utility.
then,
Problem 2. System would then recognize the CD-ROM but still
crashed later on after resetting the SCSI BUS.
Actually it would loop forever on the cd-rom.
then: Configure DPT card with a maximum SCSI bus transfer
rate of 5 M/sec. I had 10 M/sec and it didn't work.
Note: That may have been a problem with my particular
CD-ROM.
Installation will then proceed.
JM
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
NOTE: FLAMES TO NeXT FOR THEIR INCAPACITY TO GIVE US MORE INSTALLATION
DETAILS ON THE PLATFORM (HARWARE SUCH AS THE DPT CARD) THEY
RECOMMENDED. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FROM A COMPANY THAT NOW
RELIES ON SOFTWARE. I NEARLY GAVE UP. I MUST NOT BE THE ONLY ONE.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gorden@jegnixa.hsc.missouri.edu (Jason E Gorden)
Subject: NE2000 drivers for NS486.
Message-ID: <1993Jul21.195359.2632@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 19:53:59 GMT
Hello,
I have recently endured a NS 486 installation including the problem
of ejecting the floppy after the grey bar comes up so that you don't
get the timeout messages... And I have done this only to discover to
the amazement and great frustration of my feeble mind that there is
no support for ne2000 boards. I have been using linux for about
a year and it supports all kinds of networking cards. So much for the
complaining... Now for the question...
QUESTION: Is there an NE2000 driver out there somewhere or is there
a kit that will allow someone to write a driver for an NE2000 card?
And if not, could someone who has a better understanding of the history
of NS for Intel explain to me how NeXT thinks it can even make a pathetic
attempt to become accepted in the marketplace if they don't provide drivers
for anything?
Thanks in advance for any help here......
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jason E Gorden gorden@jegnixa.hsc.missouri.edu
M331B HSC jason@wpogate.missouri.edu
1 Hospital Drive c598588@mizzou1.missouri.edu
University of Missouri Columbia
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From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 1542B & over 1 Gb capacity
Date: 21 Jul 1993 20:15:29 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <22k851$ei0@nic.umass.edu>
References: <1993Jul21.155158.6812@cubx.com>
Eric Dasque (edasque@cubx.com) wrote:
: we have tried to use an Adaptec 1542B (in a Dell 466ME) with disks over 1
: Gb and it is a "no-no". You'll never format those drive at maximum
: capacity. Instead you'll have a "small" 1023 Mb...
Not true...if you get the free upgrade to v3.2 of the bios you can deal with
drives >1 Gig. Heck, it's even a free phone call to tech support!
: The 1542C solves the problem
Good point...but the 1542 can be had for $99!
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: nwc (Nick Christopher)
Subject: NS3.1 & PLI Superfloppy
Message-ID: <CAJ7Au.28H@ny.shl.com>
Sender: usenet@ny.shl.com (Net News)
Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc.
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 20:23:18 GMT
A while back someone posted that the Superfloppy didn't work with NS3.1 can
anyone confirm or deny this rumor?
\n
Nicholas Christopher
Systemhouse
nwc@ny.shl.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: moose@antilles.nosc.mil (James B. Moosmann)
Subject: Video Out?
Message-ID: <1993Jul21.210625.7000@nrao.edu>
Sender: news@nrao.edu
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 21:06:25 GMT
-- Has anyone done anything using ND to edit video like the Video Toaster
stuff?
______________________
James Moosmann NeXT/E-Mail: moose@antilles.nosc.mil
703-786-0807 @ Home
703-602-8080 @ Work
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 16:13:15 CDT
From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Message-ID: <93202.161315U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Looking for competent 486-NS vendors
References: <69499@mimsy.umd.edu>
In article <69499@mimsy.umd.edu>, baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff) says:
>
>I am considering buying a 486 machine to run NS.
>I haven't made up my mind as to which machine it will be,
>so I'd like to call up some companies to check out their offers.
>Since NS 3.1 imposes some restrictions on the kind of peripherals
>that can be used, I would like to get in touch with sales/tech persons
>who are familiar with NS and its requirements.
>
>If you know of any such person (at Gateway, Dell, NEC, etc), please send
>me their name, company, phone/fax (+extension #), email.
>
>Since this is of potential interest to many netters, I will post a summary
>to this Newsgroup.
>
> Thanks, Greg.
>
Call Kris Magnusson at Alpine Computing/MicroAge. The # is 801.268.8877.
He has been dealing with NS/FIP systems as long as they have been a
possibility.
-tom nawara
nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu
From: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Michele Giardini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple CD300 and NeXT
Date: 21 Jul 1993 15:16:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Distribution: World
Message-ID: <22jmkn$78t@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
References: <22ioqgINNfo@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
ynakamur@sfu.ca writes
> Hi,
> Does anyone have an experience of using an Apple CD 300 CD-ROM drive with
> a NeXT slab? Can you just plug-and-play, or do you need a driver for the
> drive? Any info would be appreciated.
Just plug-and-play, at least on our cube. It works with the PhotoCD, also.
> =>Mike
Michele
--
Giardini Michele - So here I am once more (Marillion)
- Computer Science Department State University of Milan
- Coordinator of NeXT2You (The Italian NeXT User Group)
Via Comelico 39/41 - 20135 Milano
Tel. +39 2 55006385 Fax +39 2 55006373
Email: michi@cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (NeXT mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Laptop/Docking Wickedness
Message-ID: <1993Jul21.214832.25231@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 21:48:32 GMT
I saw an ad in Computer Shopper for an INSI VESA Local Bus laptop. It
advertises a 32 Bit VLB Video plus a Local Bus Port and Local Bus
docking station with 2 VESA slots, 2 speakers and a raft of other
things. The 800 number was bogus (I'll give it anyway 800.588.4674,
when I called it was a saddle-horn maker, no kidding) or 408.748.9781.
When I called the guy he didn't know if it was NS capable but would
try to find out. This sounds like the ultimate laptop because you
aren't limited to 640X480 (which is only tolerable for short periods
of time)
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
Altsys Technical Support 214.680.2518
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Re: Dell and Adaptec
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 14:45:42 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jul21.144542.2229@cyantic.com>
References: <1993Jul16.184504.12770@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> <1993Jul20.120709.6512@lxki.toppoint.de>
In article <1993Jul20.120709.6512@lxki.toppoint.de> laux@lxki.toppoint.de (Thorsten Laux) writes:
>jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) writes:
>
>>Has anyone got the below error on there system and been able to fix
>>it?
>
>>AHA interrupt: bad status ff
>>sd0: INVALID STATUS (Internal error): FATAL ERROR
>> target:0 lun: 0 op: Read block: some # blockcount: some #
>
>
>I have exactly the same problem trying to install Nextstep for Intel
>on 2 different Eisa Systems with ATI ISA Ultra Pro and another
>Graphics Card and a 1542b Controller. I suspect you cannot get the
>1542b to work in an Eisa System. Has anybody succeeded in doing this ?
According to the June 8 HW Compatibility Guide, NS/FIP does not support an
EISA Adaptec Controller (1740/1742). I wonder if this lack of support will
also prevent the ISA version from working in the EISA bus.
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kwang@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: Re: Maxtor LXT340SY SCSI formats small
Message-ID: <1993Jul21.233441.131172@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
References: <1993Jul15.035133.644@imani.cam.org>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1993 23:34:41 GMT
In comp.sys.next.hardware nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore) writes:
> (a Quantum PD425S) gives me a 16 Megs discrepancy between the "df"
output
> (402597 total size) and "disk" output (416415 size). "Disk", BTW, also
mentions
I would also like to add that (disk) uses 1000*1000 to reach 1 meg, not
1024*1024...
also, df "total size" *INCLUDES* the n% overflow. This number varies
according to how you generated the system. When I tried to format our
3gig external HD, BuildDisk wanted to put a 0% overflow!!!! I ended up
creating a disktab by hand, such that we could get reasonable amounts of
overflow space.
- Kevin Wang
From: michaell@swdev.research.otc.com.au (Michael Lofquist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTSTEP on TEXAS Travelmate ??
Date: 21 Jul 1993 23:11:24 GMT
Organization: Technical Development Group, Telstra International
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <22kies$46u@turin.research.otc.com.au>
Has anybody any experience running NS/I
on a Texas Travelmate Notebook ??
They make a 486-50MHz version which I am told
is pretty fast !!
Any comments/ experience ??.
Email and I will post result on net.
Thanks
Michael
--------------------------------------------
From: dkolbly@cs.utexas.edu (Donovan Kolbly)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Looking for SCMS spec --> cheap DAT backup?
Date: 21 Jul 1993 20:45:53 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <m4rsahINNp3k@ozona.cs.utexas.edu>
I am looking for the spec of the Serial Copy Management System (SCMS)
and associated mechanisms, both hardware and software, that allow
CD players and DAT recorders to talk to each other digitally.
My GOAL is to be able to take a DAT recorder, like the Casio DA-R100
I see advert. in J&R Music World for $550 and achieve the functionality
of a DAT backup system, like the APS DAT drive for $1200. The
overriding HOPE is that the digital interface to a DATR is suitable
to such an operation, given that I have a signal processor (DSP 56000)
in my computer (NeXT) that should be able to sustain the data rate.
Besides, if things are insanely cool, I can get new functionality
this way -- basically to use the DATR's A->D as a high-quality audio
capture system, as well as having a DAT component in my audio system.
Apart from pointers to the relevant specs, I welcome other comments
as to the likely success of my PLAN. In particular, relevant issues
are the data loss rate of Audio-suitable DATRs, the durability of
consumer-grade merchandise when used in such conditions, and just the
general ease of an average hacker hooking up to Real World Hardware.
[ Donovan Kolbly
--> technophile on a tight budget <--
dkolbly@cs.utexas.edu ]
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 1542B & over 1 Gb capacity
Date: 22 Jul 1993 02:18:17 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Message-ID: <22ktd9$97e@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Jul21.155158.6812@cubx.com> <22k851$ei0@nic.umass.edu>
>: we have tried to use an Adaptec 1542B (in a Dell 466ME) with disks over 1
>: Gb and it is a "no-no". You'll never format those drive at maximum
>: capacity. Instead you'll have a "small" 1023 Mb...
>
>Not true...if you get the free upgrade to v3.2 of the bios you can deal with
>drives >1 Gig. Heck, it's even a free phone call to tech support!
I've tried this and haven't gotten it to work. I've tried with the
Extended Translation jumper enabled (contrary to what's shown in the
NeXTanswers note), and I got a SCSI mailbox error for my trouble.
After that, I did a low-level format of the disk with the jumper
enabled, as suggested by Adaptec technical support, but that didn't
work either. NeXT technical support didn't have a solution. If anyone
has gotten this to work, I'd like to hear from you.
>: The 1542C solves the problem
>
>Good point...but the 1542 can be had for $99!
That's a great price. Where did you find it?
Mitch Gass
mitch@mills.edu
From: yslee@ux5.lbl.gov (yongsik lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Epson 128MB MO problem solved. - needed NS 3.x
Date: 22 Jul 1993 03:37:31 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <22l21s$lkm@overload.lbl.gov>
References: <22kies$46u@turin.research.otc.com.au>
Netters!
I can use Epson 128MB MO (3.5") with my Nextstation (25MHz, mono) now.
Thank you for all the help.
A detailed version will be post next.
Yongsik LEE
yslee@ux5.lbl.gov
From: yslee@ux5.lbl.gov (yongsik lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re:
Date: 22 Jul 1993 03:38:57 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <22l24h$lkn@overload.lbl.gov>
References: <22kies$46u@turin.research.otc.com.au>
Hi, netters.
A few weeks ago I posted about the 128MB MO problem.
Many helpful advices were available since then.
I really appreciate all the help of you guys.
Especially, Hyun C Sohn,
Bill(thorson@thphoon.atmos.colostate.edu), maurices@spock.dis.cccd.
edu, Tim(tpugh@oce.orst.edu), James (moose@antilles.mosc.mil), Garance (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu), Doug (wag1@cbnewsl.att.com) --- Thank You!!
Here is the summary of this happy ending story.
(problem) Nextstation (25MHz, mono) does not recognize 128MB Epson MO (APS).
(suggestions)
1. SCSI handling problem? (scsi id#, scsi cable, terminator?)
2. try verbose boot (I looked up Next manual first time since I purchased it).
3. Mac formatted MO diskette?
4. upgrade to NS 3.0 or NS 3.1
(My case)
case #4. Actually, I borrowed cd-rom floppy for NS 3.0. Once the program
on the floppy modifed the kernals, the machine recognize epson mo mechanism.
What heppened? I don't know, but it works ;-)
(Impression to Epson MO)
reasoably fast (better than floppy, please don't compare with CD-ROM drives).
plug-and-play.
formating takes 30 sec-45 sec.
Fan noise is disturbing... (this is APS assembled one. $1000)
Thank you again.
Yongsik LEE
yslee@ux5.lbl.gov
From: peterk@pknms.toppoint.de (Peter Kretzschmar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: Dell and Adaptec
Message-ID: <743334314peterk.postmast@pknms.toppoint.de>
Sender: postmast@pknms.toppoint.de
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 93 09:45:14 GMT
References: <1993Jul16.184504.12770@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> <1993Jul20.120709.6512@lxki.toppoint.de> <1993Jul21.144542.2229@cyantic.com>
Organization: private site
In article <1993Jul21.144542.2229@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes:
>In article <1993Jul20.120709.6512@lxki.toppoint.de> laux@lxki.toppoint.de (Thorsten Laux) writes:
>>jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) writes:
>>
>>
>>I have exactly the same problem trying to install Nextstep for Intel
>>on 2 different Eisa Systems with ATI ISA Ultra Pro and another
>>Graphics Card and a 1542b Controller. I suspect you cannot get the
>>1542b to work in an Eisa System. Has anybody succeeded in doing this ?
>
>According to the June 8 HW Compatibility Guide, NS/FIP does not support an
>EISA Adaptec Controller (1740/1742). I wonder if this lack of support will
>also prevent the ISA version from working in the EISA bus.
Last week, i've installed NS/FIP in a machine with EISA board
and 1542c, but without ATI. My fine 1742 went's into the shelf.
Peter
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From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.Virginia.EDU (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: Tseng Labs and no color
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We've got NSI installed on a 486-66 with a Tseng Labs ET 4000
graphics card and 1M VRAM. Eveerything seems to work wonderfully,
but we get no color. Is there a trick to getting color with
this card?
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu
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From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: Re: Dell and Adaptec
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In article <1993Jul21.144542.2229@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T.
Dornfeld) writes:
> In article <1993Jul20.120709.6512@lxki.toppoint.de>
laux@lxki.toppoint.de (Thorsten Laux) writes:
> >jds@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope) writes:
> >
> >>Has anyone got the below error on there system and been able to fix
> >>it?
> >
> >>AHA interrupt: bad status ff
> >>sd0: INVALID STATUS (Internal error): FATAL ERROR
> >> target:0 lun: 0 op: Read block: some # blockcount: some #
> >
> >
> >I have exactly the same problem trying to install Nextstep for Intel
> >on 2 different Eisa Systems with ATI ISA Ultra Pro and another
> >Graphics Card and a 1542b Controller. I suspect you cannot get the
> >1542b to work in an Eisa System. Has anybody succeeded in doing this ?
>
> According to the June 8 HW Compatibility Guide, NS/FIP does not support
an
> EISA Adaptec Controller (1740/1742). I wonder if this lack of support
will
> also prevent the ISA version from working in the EISA bus.
The Adaptec 1540 works for us in a Gateway 2000 66DX2 EISA, however we
resorted to using the EISA SCSI adapter that came with the system as a
floppy drive controller only.
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From: davis@masig.fsu.edu (Alan Davis)
Subject: Re: Age-old OD problem. Fix?
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In article <1993Jul20.012925.7112@mdd.comm.mot.com>
bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz) writes:
> Hi, I've come upon an original Cube with the optical drive that had been
> sitting around a while unused. Last week, the
> drive began shutting down and starting up until I rebooted. After that,
> it seems to be physically impossible to insert a disk. Over poring over
> the archives, it seems that this problem was quite prevalent earlier but
> other than sending the drive back under warranty, there was no solution
> listed. Note that my fan was blowing the correct way into the cube.
>
> Does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? Any clues would
> be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Martin Bublitz
We had the same problem with our OD, I finally got tired of not being able
to mount disks and decided to literally take matters into my own hands.
The trouble is usually caused by dirt/dust inside the drive. I took ours
apart and cleaned the inside of the drive paying special attention to the
optical parts. Anyone competent with a screwdrive can do the job, just
pay attention to which parts go where as you need to dismantle alot to do
the job right. Took a couple of hours, but was worth it as we can now
mount all 30 GB of our ODs without any problems.
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From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Adaptec 1542c problem
Message-ID: <CAJK7J.Eu7@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Summary: AHA Interrupt: bad status ff during pre-install boot
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Having replaced my Alpha Micro Adaptec 1540/42 series look alike with
a genuine Adaptec 1542c, I have overcome a variety of earlier
problems, like bad DMA transfers and not finding the CD-ROM.
However, after apparently doing everything right up to the point of
pulling the stuff off the CD-ROM, the first few times I got.
...
root on sd0
rootdev 600, howto 0
intr: dropped IRQ7
AHA interrupt: bad status ff
sd0: INVALID STATUS (internal error): FATAL ERROR
target: 0 lun: 0 op: read block: 220 blockCount: 1
panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mount root
panic: NeXT Mach 3.1: Thur Apr 29 23:44:40 PDT 1993; root (rcbuilder) objects/lnk-1
49.22.3.obj~2/RELEASE_I386
Raise RDP exception 6 code 3 subcode 0
Waiting for RDP connection (type 'c' to continue)
...
I have experimented with other SCSI address settings (notably 6). Recently
I have consistently a slightly different result after the "FATAL ERROR":
...
.........block:139728 blockCount: 1
Load of /etc/mach_init. errno 5, trying /etc/init
Load of /etc/init failed, errno 5
-------
There were other variants, notably the block number.
I have a Dell 466/ME with EISA Ultra Pro Graphics (2MB VRAM), NeXT (Sony
CDU 541) CD-ROM drive, with passive terminations correctly installed (one at
external end, one on the SCSI board), and controller settings as per
NeXTAnswers. I have tried several flavours of SCSI cable
I think I have a bad Adaptec 1542c, but maybe someone out there has a better
idea. Brief help emailed to me as below gratefully received. I will
gladly summarise. Thanks :-)
david
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From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: Tseng Labs and no color
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In article <CAKD89.483@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, jpw@sansfoy.lib.Virginia.EDU (John Price-Wilkin) writes:
|> We've got NSI installed on a 486-66 with a Tseng Labs ET 4000
|> graphics card and 1M VRAM. Eveerything seems to work wonderfully,
|> but we get no color. Is there a trick to getting color with
|> this card?
|>
Nope, there is no trick, the Tseng ET4000 will not do color in NeXTSTEP. There are a couple of technical reasons for this. The bottem line is, NeXT didn't impliment the Tseng ET4000 driver to do color.
1) If you are running in 1024x768, and want color, 1 Meg of VRAM will not be enough. (For 640x480 it would enough tho)
2) More than likely your graphics card isn't local bus. Color modes need to move many more bytes across the bus to get the job done. ISA can barely handle the job. (Have you noticed how jerky your display is when moving windows around in black and white? color would be much worse!)
|> John Price-Wilkin
|> jpw@virginia.edu
|> jpw@sansfoy.lib.Virginia.EDU (NeXTMail)
So sorry to say, you won't be able to do color, save up those pennies for a ATI local bus card or something to that effect. You'll be glad you did!
Tom
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From: nikos@cs.cornell.edu (Nikos P. Pitsianis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PROBLEM: sd0: Incomplete disk transfers
Message-ID: <1993Jul22.160850.10233@cs.cornell.edu>
Date: 22 Jul 93 16:08:50 GMT
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Have you seen this error message before?
sd0: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 1
sd0: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 2
...
sd0: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 9
sd0: Incomplete disk transfer; FATAL
I have an 040@25 cube running 2.1, with OD and a Micropolis 1588-15 (667MB)
drive that I installed on my own (**This might be the reason**).
Whenever I connect an external SCSI device (I tryied the PLI floppy drive
and the NeXT CD-rom) I get the above messages during the boot process whenever
the computer accesses sd0, no matter what the external device is.
I only tried it with only one external device at a time.
The external SCSI device is properly recognized but it gives me another message:
UNIT ATTENTION (I don't know if this is bad).
Despite that, the computer completes the boot, although it takes much longer, and you can actually login. When you insert a medium (suppose the CD-ROM is connected)
its icon appears in the workspace manager, you can see its contents and
run programs from it. So, the behavior appears normal except the fact that everything that deals with sd0 takes longer and things might timeout, like the
/tmp/console.log is never written.
Nothing of the above happens when I have no external SCSI device connected,
or connected but turned off.
I suspect the problem is improper termination of my internal drive (I made
the installation-configuration).
Can you help me? Please e-mail me your advice. On the next posting I will
describe my internal drive configuration.
Thank you
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From: janthony@nextsrv1.andi.org (Jay Anthony)
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Subject: Mouse won't work: Intel GX NS Install
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This has been driving me nuts...
I'm trying to install NS/FIP on an Intel/GX "workstation". I have a
Logitech Serial Mouse connected to COM1. When I boot up, a number of
error messages appear such as "PCPointer probe: mouseInit failure"
and such. When I get to the first NS screen where you select the
type of computer you have, I cannot use the mouse at all. (The
keyboard also doesn't work, though I don't know if that's related...)
I have the serial mouse plugged into COM1. I have the IRQ set to 4
(port 0x3f8 set too). I tried switching COM ports and IRQ's with no
luck.
Note the Intel/GX has a PS/2 mouse port, though I'm not using it
because I don't have a PS/2 mouse.
Anyone have any ideas? I've been trying to get this up since Monday!
:-(
Thank you!
Desperate,
Jason
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From: nikos@cs.cornell.edu (Nikos P. Pitsianis)
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Subject: SCSI bus termination and Micropolis 1588-15
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Date: 22 Jul 93 17:01:52 GMT
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Is anybody out there that uses this drive as an internal drive on a cube?
What are the correct jumpers to set in order to have it work properly?
My problem is that whenever I connect an external SCSI device I get the error
message
sd0: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 1
sd0: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 2
...
sd0: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 9
sd0: Incomplete disk transfer; FATAL
during the boot, everytime the computer accesses sd0. Please see a previous
posting of mine with title "sd0: Incomplete disk transfer".
From the Network and System Administration (2.0 Nextstep),
Configuring an Additional SCSI disk, page 168:
1 a [...] For external drives the power for the SCSI termination should be from the SCSI bus, rather than internally supplied. For internal drives, the drive with the termination must supply termination power.
I want my Micropolis to be my only internal drive and to boot from.
I have the terminator on. What shall I have the jumbers set in order to implement correctly the advice above? Here is what the 3 page manual that came with
the drive says about the jumpers:
-----
RN9 Interface Terminator
[we know this has to stay on, I skip it]
W1, W2, Terminator option
W1 and W2 select the source of termination power (+5V) for the interface terminator. If a jumper is installed at W1 and no jumper is installed at W2 the drive provides terminator power. If a jumper is installed on W2 the host adapter will suplly terminator power. If a jumper is installed at W2 and W11, and no jumper is installed at W1 the drive provides terminator power to its
on board terminators and also to the SCSI bus via interface connector J1, pin 26.
[my note, W1 and W2 share a "leg" so not both of them can be simultaneously in]
W11 Bus Option
W11 allows the drive to supply interface terminator power to the SCSI Bus. If W11 is not installed and W1 is jumpered, the drive does supply SCSI bus interface
terminator power.
W5 Spindle Option
[I don't think we care, I skip it]
W4 Bus Parity Option
[I skip it]
W28 Ground Options
W28 is used to connect the drive's logic ground to frame ground. When
a jumper is installed at W28, frame ground is connected to logic ground.
------
So, how can I configure my drive correctly?
I tried the following combinations, in all of them the drive works properly when
no external SCSI device is connected, but it gives the above error when an external device is connected (and on).
W1 W2 W11 W28
in out out out
out in in out
out in out in (don't ask me why ;-)
Please e-mail me your advice.
Thank you,
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From: edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque)
Subject: Re: 1542B & over 1 Gb capacity
Message-ID: <1993Jul22.124051.1955@cubx.com>
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 12:40:51 GMT
In article <22k851$ei0@nic.umass.edu> fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E
FITZGERALD) writes:
> Eric Dasque (edasque@cubx.com) wrote:
>
> : we have tried to use an Adaptec 1542B (in a Dell 466ME) with disks
> : Gb and it is a "no-no". You'll never format those drive at maximum
> : capacity. Instead you'll have a "small" 1023 Mb...
>
> Not true...if you get the free upgrade to v3.2 of the bios you can deal
> drives >1 Gig. Heck, it's even a free phone call to tech support!
>
> : The 1542C solves the problem
>
> Good point...but the 1542 can be had for $99!
>
> Joe Fitzgerald
> fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
We have 3.2 version of the Bios on our Adaptec 1542B and as I said : It
doesn't work
Ed.
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
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Subject: Postscript printing to Epson or IBM pro over NetWare?
Date: 22 Jul 1993 19:24:32 GMT
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Has anyone figured out how to print to one of the two supported
non-postscript printers that the NeXT rasters for over Novell NetWare?
Jim
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From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
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Subject: 030-board's serial flow control - possible?
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Does anyone know how 040 board's serial flow control is done? Is it possible
to build a kludge to make it work on 030 board as well? What chip does the
controlling or is it implemented with external logic? Any info appreciated.
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From: blenko-tom@CS.YALE.EDU (Tom M. Blenko)
Subject: Re: Age-old OD problem. Fix?
Message-ID: <1993Jul22.213314.4674@cs.yale.edu>
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 21:33:14 GMT
| In article <1993Jul20.012925.7112@mdd.comm.mot.com>
| bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz) writes:
| > Hi, I've come upon an original Cube with the optical drive that had been
| > sitting around a while unused. Last week, the
| > drive began shutting down and starting up until I rebooted. After that,
| > it seems to be physically impossible to insert a disk. Over poring over
| > the archives, it seems that this problem was quite prevalent earlier but
| > other than sending the drive back under warranty, there was no solution
| > listed. Note that my fan was blowing the correct way into the cube.
| >
| > Does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? Any clues would
| > be appreciated.
|
| We had the same problem with our OD, I finally got tired of not being able
| to mount disks and decided to literally take matters into my own hands.
| The trouble is usually caused by dirt/dust inside the drive. I took ours
| apart and cleaned the inside of the drive paying special attention to the
| optical parts. Anyone competent with a screwdrive can do the job, just
| pay attention to which parts go where as you need to dismantle alot to do
| the job right. Took a couple of hours, but was worth it as we can now
| mount all 30 GB of our ODs without any problems.
I also have had (complete, really) success by
disassembling the drive and cleaning certain of the
parts. In my case, it seems to take about 9 months before
the job needs to be done again.
Tom
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: INFO REQUEST: Scanners for NS/I
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 22 Jul 93 14:26:51 PDT
Message-ID: <1993Jul22.142651.8002@crash>
Can anyone recommend 1200dpi or 2400dpi color scanners that work with
the Intel GX workstation running NEXTSTEP/Intel? And I guess there would
need to be some software to go with it. I need to generate TIFF 8 and 24
bit color images from scanned pictures and artwork. I'm interested in
first-hand experience, and thanks in advance for any replies!
-- brian dear
coconut computing, inc.
From: davis@galaxy.ee.rochester.edu (Al Davis)
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Subject: Re: Age-old OD problem. Fix?
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Date: 22 Jul 93 23:53:00 GMT
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You can wipe the dust off with a tissue on a stick without taking it apart.
Open the little door. Look inside. Use a flashlight. You will see where.
It is a little thing behind the spindle on the bottom.
al.
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From: bff@next.dev.pvh.org (Brendan F. Forsyth)
Subject: tape backup devices
Message-ID: <CALByy.BnE@csn.org>
Keywords: tape NeXT compatibility
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 23:59:22 GMT
Are there any supported tape backup stategies for the Intel Platform?
Specifically, Colorado Memory Systems.
Thanks
Brendan
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From: michaell@swdev.research.otc.com.au
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Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on TEXAS Travelmate ??
Date: 22 Jul 1993 23:10:32 GMT
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I wrote:
> Has anybody any experience running NS/I
> on a Texas Travelmate Notebook ??
>
The lack of response prob. means that nobody with
netaccess has tried NS/I the Texas TravelMate
notebook ??
I guess I will have to try myself ( sigh ).
Does anybody have a US retail price for 4000 WinDX2/50 model ??
They cost an arm and a leg here in Australia.
Michael
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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: SUMMARY: NeXTdimension Turbo recommendations
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Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 23:50:34 GMT
I asked a couple of questions and promised a summary, so here goes a review of
the original article followed by all the responses (which have tapered off
recently and now tend to be questions rather than answers :-)
Brian Willoughby writes
| Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 20:13:01 GMT
|
| What is the general consensus on the speed improvement provided by upgrading
| a 25 MHz '040 dimension to a 33 MHz Turbo motherboard? I assume it would be
| quite difficult at this point to get a NeXTcube Turbo motherboard, but if I
| were to find one, I'd like to know what to expect.
|
| Are there any new problems when running a NeXTdimension board along with the
| 33 MHZ NeXTcube Turbo motherboards? How much faster is the machine given
| similar RAM and drive configurations? Basically, would upgrading my main
| board from 25 MHz to 33 MHz be a major hassle (negative performance), a waste
| of time (no change), a small improvement, or a vast improvement?
-----------------------------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 16:05:32 -0700
From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
I recently got an ND and a turbo board for my cube.
Quite noticeable improvement.
-----------------------------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 16:24:40 PDT
From: brianw (To: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell))
Thanks for the response, Steve. I'm curious, though: did you get both the ND
and the Turbo board at the same time? How long did you use the ND with the 25
Mhz board before upgrading to the 33 MHz Turbo one? The reason I ask is
because the ND is faster than the standard NeXTcube because all of the
Postscript and Renderman functions are handled by another processor. I'm
wondering how much of your improvement was due to adding the ND and how much is
on account of the Turbo board by itself.
I have an ND and a 25 MHz board.
-----------------------------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 17:46:00 -0700
From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
I got the turbo and the ND at the same time.
I have no basis for comparison in driving the ND,
but the system as a whole is much faster.
I'm not sure it's correct that PS and Renderman are handled by the ND.
I've been told by a person inside NeXT that all the ND processor does
is copy rectangles through a dual-port RAM. Apparently, the machine
wasn't designed very well for the intended purpose of outboard rendering,
and so the software was never written to accomplish that. This information
may not be true anymore, but I think it still is. Designing interfaces to
do what ND was supposed to do is not easy, and NeXT made at least one other
similar bad assumption in their hardware interfaces: the DSP.
Right now I'm running two heads, 32MB on the CPU and 8MB on the ND. I get
a little window shear that I understand would be corrected by more ND RAM.
Other than that, this is a very sweet machine.
-----------------------------------------------------
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 20:01:27 -0500
From: J.B. Nicholson-Owens <jeffo@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
Spherical Solutions has Turbo ND systems on sale now for $7k, I believe.
I would say that the ability of Turbo machines to hold more memory (128MB, I
believe) could all by itself make some RAM-hungry apps run faster if that 128MB
is enough to postpone a trip to the swapfile. Unfortunately, it probably takes
a lot of money to expand your machine with the proper ram to take advantage of
that.
Also, I believe the Turbo machines can access faster ram faster than the
non-Turbo machines can access the same ram.
-----------------------------------------------------
From: dylan@angst.com (Dylan Kohler)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 17:24:03 -0700
I haven't really noticed much of a difference between the Turbo and non-Turbo
Dimension cubes. This isn't anything I've checked empirically--just my opinion
that the extra cost wasn't worth it to me.
-----------------------------------------------------
From: Peter Eisch <peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 93 13:18:20 -0500
About going to 33MHz: I debated it for a long time. The 33's have only the
4 memory slots as the rest of the turbo crowd, so I'd have to shell out some
serious cash for ram to keep 64MB on my motherboard on top of the board itself.
In the same vein, you can take the 33's to >64MB of ram.
To specifically answer your question, I've never tried a turbo cube/ND and
you're surely to notice a difference (as in the NSC/NSTC's) but it may or
may not be worth the hassle. If money's no object -- go 'fer it.
-----------------------------------------------------
From: lance@insight.com (Lance Charlish)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 93 12:23:08 -0700
I upgraded my ND system to a turbo system and the change was DRAMATIC. Because
the display postscript is drawn on the 040 chip (rather than on the Intel RISC
chip) the faster interleaved memory, faster processor and the turbo memory
controller chip vastly increase the speed of the machine whenever an app has to
draw a lot of postscript.
If you want better performance, but can't get a board, make sure that you have
the memory at max. levels on the ND board. Whenever the ND board has to page
its memory of the screen, it also takes over the CPU on the system board, which
really hurts performance.
There were no problems to speak of doing the upgrade.
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From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey (Trey McClendon)
Subject: NS/FIP on a Gateway 2000 486/25: will it ever work?
Message-ID: <1993Jul22.212250.18837@tybrin4.uucp>
Sender: trey@tybrin4.uucp (Trey McClendon)
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation, Huntsville AL
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 21:22:50 GMT
I have been trying off and on over the past week to install NS/FIP on
a Gateway 2000 486/25 but, "it just don't work". Note that this machine
is NOT a 'V-series' machine.
It has a micronics keyboard, a (new) Logitech Mouseman Bus mouse, Adaptec
1542C, a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive, and a Fujitsu SCSI drive that had been
on a NeXTstation.
I _was_ using a Microsoft serial mouse, but someone said to get one from
a reputable dealer, so I did. That got rid of the PCPointer: mouseInit
failure message. This is what I have now.
Registering: PCPointer0
Registering: PCKeyboard0
It either hangs here with the floppy spinning or resets automatically.
I've done all that "unplug the keyboard while it boots" stuff, too.
Please, if anyone has successfully got NS/FIP installed on a Gateway 2000
486/25, tell me what you did. I have other things to do than fight this
confounded PC.
Thanks,
Trey
tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com
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From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: Re: Mouse won't work: Intel GX NS Install
Message-ID: <1993Jul23.053358.5379@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
References: <9307221648.AA11506@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 05:33:58 GMT
In article <9307221648.AA11506@nextsrv1.andi.org> janthony@nextsrv1.andi.org (Jay Anthony) writes:
>
>This has been driving me nuts...
>
>I'm trying to install NS/FIP on an Intel/GX "workstation". I have a
>Logitech Serial Mouse connected to COM1. When I boot up, a number of
>error messages appear such as "PCPointer probe: mouseInit failure"
>and such. When I get to the first NS screen where you select the
>type of computer you have, I cannot use the mouse at all. (The
>keyboard also doesn't work, though I don't know if that's related...)
>
>I have the serial mouse plugged into COM1. I have the IRQ set to 4
>(port 0x3f8 set too). I tried switching COM ports and IRQ's with no
>luck.
>
>Note the Intel/GX has a PS/2 mouse port, though I'm not using it
>because I don't have a PS/2 mouse.
I think you should disable that PS/2 mouse port or if it is not
possible get a PS/2 mouse.
>Anyone have any ideas? I've been trying to get this up since Monday!
>:-(
>
>Thank you!
>
>Desperate,
>Jason
>
>
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From: David.Kelman@launchpad.unc.edu (David Kelman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Maxtor Opticals
Date: 23 Jul 1993 13:18:49 GMT
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Does anyone have any experience with connecting either the Maxtor
MaxOptix optical drive or their WORM drive to black hardware? I recently
seen some good prices on this equipment, and I'm wondering how hard it would
be to get it to work, given what I've heard about opticals on the NeXT.
David Kelman
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From: Jim Blum <jmb@merit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Orchid Prodesigner IIs
Date: 22 Jul 1993 15:32:27 GMT
Organization: Merit Network, Inc.
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Message-ID: <22mbub$66v@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Will this card work with the NEXTSTEP ET4000 video driver?
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From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP on a Gateway 2000 486/25: will it ever work?
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul23.141808.19392@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 14:18:08 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1993Jul22.212250.18837@tybrin4.uucp>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <1993Jul22.212250.18837@tybrin4.uucp>, uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey (Trey McClendon) writes:
|> I have been trying off and on over the past week to install NS/FIP on
|> a Gateway 2000 486/25 but, "it just don't work". Note that this machine
|> is NOT a 'V-series' machine.
This sounds like my first week after the NeXTWORLD Expo. I think I *HAD* the same gateway as you do now. (Except mine was a 33)
|> It has a micronics keyboard, a (new) Logitech Mouseman Bus mouse, Adaptec
|> 1542C, a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive, and a Fujitsu SCSI drive that had been
|> on a NeXTstation.
I hope you don't mean, you have a MICRONICS motherboard.....if you do, what version of the Phoenix BIOS do you have. I believe I had v.10-17. Anyway, that version did NOT WORK with NeXTSTEP. If you have your heart set on installing on your gateway, you may need to upgrade your ROMs. (I did not try this, instead I sold my machine and bought a localbus, EISA motherboard....)
|> I _was_ using a Microsoft serial mouse, but someone said to get one from
|> a reputable dealer, so I did. That got rid of the PCPointer: mouseInit
|> failure message. This is what I have now.
|>
|> Registering: PCPointer0
|> Registering: PCKeyboard0
|>
|> It either hangs here with the floppy spinning or resets automatically.
|> I've done all that "unplug the keyboard while it boots" stuff, too.
|>
Yup, that's what mine would do. At that point, it's trying or about to access the SCSI bus. I have the same adaptec card as you have too btw. Anyway, I never got mine to go any further than that.
|> Please, if anyone has successfully got NS/FIP installed on a Gateway 2000
|> 486/25, tell me what you did. I have other things to do than fight this
|> confounded PC.
|>
|> Thanks,
|>
|> Trey
|> tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com
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From: sfosteri@nye.nscee.edu (Steven Foster)
Subject: modem/fax for NS/Intel ??
Message-ID: <1993Jul23.150801.4675@nevada.edu>
Sender: news@nevada.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: National Supercomputer Center for Energy and the Environment
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 15:08:01 GMT
Can anyone inform me about appropriate internal modems for NS/I systems?
Would like fax support under NS. What works, what doesn't ??
thanks,
Steve Foster
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP: Mouse and Keyboard answers
Date: 23 Jul 1993 15:07:32 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <22ourk$99c@menudo.uh.edu>
From my understanding with working with NeXT on the Gateway2000 4DX2-66V
Keyboard/Mouse problems the following assumptions about a system are made
during the install (these assumptions usually are the bane to everyones'
problems):
1) Your system has or supports a "PS2 Compatible/style" keyboard.
2) Your system has or supports a "PS2 Compatible/style" mouse.
These assumptions mean that the drivers for PS2 style devices will always be
loaded in the system (unless you resort to hacking the file
/usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table). The problems occur if your
system doesn't or can't support these PS2 devices. During the boot phase
the system probes for a PS2 Keyboard and a PS2 Mouse. If it fails to find a
compatible device or receives a strange ACK, it will later attempt to look
for other input devices. However, apon initial probe failure, the drivers
(PS2Mouse and PS2Keyboard) seem to somehow destroy each other and thus, no
keyboard or mouse (there is more to it than this but these are the basics).
There may or may not be a solution for your particular system. Some systems
support PS2 Style devices by default. Others don't. The ones that don't
can possibly be made to be compatible either through a change in the BIOS or
jumpers on the system board (as in the case of the Gateway2000 4DX2-66V
series, place a jumper on W7) but those solutions are vendor dependent.
Also, it seems that there are some systems out there that just won't
adequately "emmulate" PS2 style devices and thus the install or boot won't
work. In these cases you need to dwell into the system more deeply and
modify the system configurations (i.e., add or remove drivers from
/usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table) or alter the hardware (use a
different device such as a BUS Mouse, change the BIOS, change the system
board, etc...). There are too many different possible combinations of
configuration and hardware that may or may not work so you might have to
spend a little time investigating the problem and you might have to contact
your vendor.
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From: mbreslow@nyx.cs.du.edu (M. Todd Breslow)
Subject: What is a Soundbox??
Message-ID: <1993Jul23.153923.2708@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 93 15:39:23 GMT
Subject says it all, what is a soundbox? Also, what's the difference
between NS 3.0 and 3.1??
Thanks,
Todd
mbreslow@nyx.cs.du.edu
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From: bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz)
Subject: Re: Age-old OD problem. Fix? (more)
Message-ID: <1993Jul23.165032.1314@mdd.comm.mot.com>
Sender: news@mdd.comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola, Wireless Data Group - Richmond, BC
References: <1993Jul20.012925.7112@mdd.comm.mot.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 16:50:32 GMT
In <1993Jul20.012925.7112@mdd.comm.mot.com> bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz) writes:
>Hi, I've come upon an original Cube with the optical drive that had been
>sitting around a while unused. Last week, the
>drive began shutting down and starting up until I rebooted. After that,
>it seems to be physically impossible to insert a disk. Over poring over
>the archives, it seems that this problem was quite prevalent earlier but
>other than sending the drive back under warranty, there was no solution
>listed. Note that my fan was blowing the correct way into the cube.
>Does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? Any clues would
>be appreciated.
Ok, thanks to everyone to responding. I did as all of you recommended and
did a thorough dusting, but to no avail.
I think an important thing that I did not mention initially is that upon
power up, the drive does not even start spinning - like it's not getting
power something. I tried exchanging power plugs with my hard drives, and
it's not the physical connections, but something to do with the drive
itself. Is my drive dead? :-(
Martin
From: fl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: B/w Monitors
Date: 23 Jul 1993 18:34:32 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Message-ID: <22pavoINN3rl@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Keywords: monitor
I am having a problem with all of our B/W nextstation monitors, they are all
gradually losing their briteness. I have tried the internal black level
adjustments, with only a slight improvement. Is there anyone else out there
with the same problem?
Alse, can you use a third part b/w monitor with the next boxes?
Thank you
David
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: remapping bad disk blocks
Message-ID: <CALuvz.1Mn@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Jul20.001529.18620@csis.dit.csiro.au>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 06:47:59 GMT
In article <1993Jul20.001529.18620@csis.dit.csiro.au> pwm@csis.dit.csiro.au
(Peter Milne) writes:
#I've had a couple of recent instances where a bad block was reported on
#my NeXTSTATION's internal disk. The most recent was:
#
#Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 65fe0H retry 1
# Target 1: HARDWARE ERROR; block 65fe0H retry 2
#
#I didn't note the details of the previous error which happenned a couple of
#weeks ago, however it was successful after a second retry. Unfortunately
#I don't know whether it was on the same block or not.
#
#A week or so after the first error my file system got corrupted and I had
#to re-initialize the disk. Following this most recent error I can't help
#wondering if a bad block was responsible for crashing the file system.
#
#Whilst I understand that one probably needn't get too worried about a very
#occasional bad block being reported, especially if they are different blocks,
#I would like to find out what options I have for remapping bad blocks on
#a NeXTSTATION. I've consulted the manuals and online documentation without
#finding anything. In particular can you remap blocks without having to
#rebuild the whole disk?
Read this ------------------------------------------
REASB(8) UNIX Programmer's Manual REASB(8)
NAME
reasb - reassign SCSI logical block
SYNOPSIS
/usr/etc/reasb raw_device SCSI_block_number [ -r ]
DESCRIPTION
This command causes a logical block on a SCSI disk drive to
be reassigned to a new location on the disk. The actual
relocation and reassignment is performed by the disk drive
(as opposed to the operating system). The algorithms used to
allocate spare sectors vary between drive manufacturers.
SCSI_block_number is generally obtained from console error
information, printed by the SCSI disk driver upon detection
of media errors reported by the drive during normal opera-
tion.
OPTIONS
-r When this flag is specified, 20 attempts are made to
read the current contents of SCSI_block_number. If any
one read attempt is successful, the reassignment takes
place and then the previously read contents of
SCSI_block_number are written back to the newly relo-
cated sector. If all 20 read attempts result in
errors, the user will be notified and asked whether or
not to continue with the reassign block command.
Responding with anything other than 'y' results in the
operation being aborted with no further I/O.
FILES
/dev/rsd?
SEE ALSO
sd(4)
BUGS
Some SCSI drives do not implement the SCSI Reassign Block
command; reasb will fail on these drives. Also, blocks in a
given area of a disk can in general only be reassigned a
small number of times before the drive runs out of spare
locations. The reasb command should be used sparingly.
The reasb command takes a decimal SCSI block number as an
argument, but the sd driver reports media errors in hexade-
cimal.
--------------------------------------------
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Flatbed Scanners
Message-ID: <CAMFnt.1qD@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 14:16:41 GMT
What do I need to do to get a SCSI flatbed scanner to work on my cube?
I can get an Abaton 300/S16 or a 300/GS real cheap and I'd like to know
what I have to do to get it to work?
I know Abaton is no more, it was adivision of Everex but at the price I'm the
scanner I don't care.
Kent
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From: jla@hpy.fi (Janne L{hdem{ki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NTSC to PAL
Date: 23 Jul 1993 19:35:51 GMT
Organization: Helsinki Telephone Company
Message-ID: <22pej5$fag@marvin.hpy.fi>
Keywords: video PAL NTSC
Does anyone know if NeXTDimension (PAL-version) can convert video
signal from NTSC 3.58 LaserVideoDisk to european PAL-video signal?
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From: baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: summary : vendors of NS/i systems
Message-ID: <69565@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 23 Jul 93 20:17:26 GMT
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: U of Maryland, Center for Automation Research, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
A couple of days ago I posted the following message :
>I am considering buying a 486 machine to run NS.
>I haven't made up my mind as to which machine it will be,
>so I'd like to call up some companies to check out their offers.
>Since NS 3.1 imposes some restrictions on the kind of peripherals
>that can be used, I would like to get in touch with sales/tech persons
>who are familiar with NS and its requirements.
>
>If you know of any such person (at Gateway, Dell, NEC, etc), please send
>me their name, company, phone/fax (+extension #), email.
>
>Since this is of potential interest to many netters, I will post a summary
>to this Newsgroup.
>
> Thanks, Greg.
>
Here's a summary of the answers I got :
Company : Advance2000 Inc
Address : Buffalo, NY
Phone : 1-800-9ADVANCE
Contact : Doug or Brian
Company : Alpine Computing
Address : Salt Lake City, UT
Phone : (801) 268-8877
Contact : Kris Magnusson
Email : yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Kris' email)
Company : Continental Computer Systems
Address : Hartford, CT
Phone : 1-800-776-8649
Contact : Jim Pinto (sales, ext. 133)
Joe Bacher (NS support, ext. 137)
Company : GEC computers
Address :
Phone : 1-800-486-1500
Contact : Jeannie
Company : Tri-star Computers
Address : Chandler, AZ
Phone : (602) 961-3401
Contact : Bob Padua (ext. 4459) (call 1pm - 5pm)
Company : TCS Consulting Services
Address : Saint Paul, MN
Phone : (612) 771-3830
Contact : Gregory Youngblood
email : tcs-systems-info@tcscs.com
Company : Workstation 2000
Address : Fallbrook, CA
Phone : (619) 723-4827
Fax : (619) 723-4392
Contact : Tim Finn
email : tfinn@cerf.net (might not work anymore)
Company : Gateway 2000
Phone : 1-800-846-2042
Contact : Andy Edlund (ext. 5401)
I haven't tried out all of these, I'm just passing them on.
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From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: MaxAudio
Message-ID: <CAn1wJ.901@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 22:17:07 GMT
Can someone please tell me what " Bill Southworths (?) MaxAudio" is all about?
I heard some noise about it and I am curious to find out its capabilities.
Is it better to invest in an SMPTE/Mid/audio interface for black hardware or, i\
nstead to network a Mac with a NeXT and take get digital audio through (for ins\
tance) an audiomedia card on the Mac?
Cheers.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: clr@next_c.pai.com (Charles Robinson)
Subject: Re: Looking for competent 486-NS vendors
Message-ID: <1993Jul23.215545.3544@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <69499@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 21:55:45 GMT
In article <69499@mimsy.umd.edu> baratoff@cfar.umd.edu (Gregory Baratoff)
writes:
>
> I am considering buying a 486 machine to run NS.
> I haven't made up my mind as to which machine it will be,
> so I'd like to call up some companies to check out their offers.
> Since NS 3.1 imposes some restrictions on the kind of peripherals
> that can be used, I would like to get in touch with sales/tech persons
> who are familiar with NS and its requirements.
>
We had great luck just going to one of our friendly (but competent)
clone vendors, handed him our CD and left. Some time latter a 66 MHz DX2
EISA machine with 32 MB of RAM and 1 GIG SCSI drive landed in our offices
with our NextStep pre-loaded yet.
Admitedly a little more complicated than that with quotes etc., but not
much more. Price was approx. $6,300 with a Viewsonic 17 monitor and 9 ms
Fujitsu drive.
He had some fun, gained some experience, made a sale.
NeXT got a little more exposure including people walking in off the steet
while he was "testing" our system. (The public reaction was favorable).
We got an Intel box to sit along side our color station and cube + local
hardware support under warranty. (He even packaged it in a black
mini-tower at our request).
For the record the dealer was
Compel Computers
6512 N. Lincoln Ave.
Lincolnwood, Ill. 60645
(708)679-2667
Seriously, its an idea you might try.
Support your local vendors and they will support you.
BTW The deal was "the machine supports NextStep or no sale."
--
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Datec Inc.
333 W. Wacker Drive, Suit 1040
Chicago, Ill. 60606-1225
Voice: (312) 629-0880
From: marc@ashley.ucla.edu (Marc Day)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Default boot, "device not found"
Date: 23 Jul 1993 22:59:06 GMT
Organization: ucla
Sender: marc@ashley (Marc Day)
Distribution: world
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Thanks to all that replied to my Maxtor disk formatting question.
It turns out that the 340 IS the formatted size, if you count like a
human. If you count like a CPU (base 1024), the size is 324.
Another dumb question...
I have a NeXTstation (8Meg, the Maxtor 324Meg drive, and the standard floppy)
I set the SCSI target number of the hard disk to 1. It comes up as target 1, device
sd 0. I use the "p" command at the NeXT console prompt, and reset the boot
command to "bsd", "b sd", "bsd(0,0,0)", "b sd(0,0,0)", "bsd sdmach", "b" etc...
and always I get "default boot device not found" and the NeXT prompt.
I then just type "bsd", it comes back with "b sd(0,0,0)sdmach" and boots fine, showing
me all the steps, whether or not "verbose test mode" has been set.
Q: What are the settings for the boot command that will give me back that nice
picture of a spinning disk, and allow the machine to boot right at powerup?
Thanks
M
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Looking for competent 486-NS vendors
Message-ID: <1993Jul23.232046.3387@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <1993Jul23.215545.3544@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 93 23:20:46 GMT
Charles Robinson writes
> We had great luck just going to one of our friendly (but competent)
> clone vendors, handed him our CD and left. Some time latter a
> 66 MHz DX2 EISA machine with 32 MB of RAM and 1 GIG SCSI drive
> landed in our offices with our NextStep pre-loaded yet.
>
> Seriously, its an idea you might try.
> Support your local vendors and they will support you.
>
> BTW The deal was "the machine supports NextStep or no sale."
Sounds good. Of course, you have quite a bit more leverage if you go
in trying to buy a $6,000 machine than if you go on trying to put
together a bare-bones cheapest possible NS system.
Now if the local vendors were on the ball, _they'd_ set up a
bare-bones system that they'd offer with NS pre-installed. They'd
probably end up selling more $6,000 systems that way, too. And
they'd probably do this if NeXT was seen as a credible force... or
even just `seen.' :-(
--
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spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: bkeeley@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Brian Keeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD sampling
Message-ID: <52343@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Date: 23 Jul 93 05:24:12 GMT
Sender: news@sdcc12.ucsd.edu
Followup-To: poster
Howdy. This is a potentially stupid question, but here goes:
Can anyone suggest what kind of software and hardware I might use to
create sound files using a CompactDisc as the source? I essentially
want to do some "sampling".
I've seen CD-ROM players hooked up to NeXTs, but they seem to only
have two capabilities: 1) read CD-ROM data and 2) *play* CDs through
the NeXT speakers (or through the RCA jacks into a stereo system).
I want to be able to read the data on a music CD into .snd, .au, or
any other NeXT-playable sound file.
Is there an obvious way to do this?
Please email me... I'll report my findings back here.
Thanks,
Brian
From: root@valis.uucp (Kevin ROOT Fluet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: UltraStor34F ?
Message-ID: <1993Jul23.190458.1277@valis.uucp>
Date: 23 Jul 93 19:04:58 GMT
Organization: V.A.L.I.S. Public Access Linux, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Hi all,
I understand that the UltraStor SCSI adaptors aren't supported under 3.1,
but does anyone know if they are planned for inclusion in 3.2?
Thanks.
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From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: NS3.1 & PLI Superfloppy
Message-ID: <Jul24.063926.59139@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 06:39:26 GMT
Distribution: na
References: <CAJ7Au.28H@ny.shl.com>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
> A while back someone posted that the Superfloppy didn't work
> with NS3.1 can anyone confirm or deny this rumor?
I've been using two cubes running 3.1 with PLI SuperFloppy drives
with no new operational problems (the power supplies are still
touch and go and one of the drives has a three way termination
switch which baffles me to this day).
Oddly, though, 3.1 uses a removable cartridge icon for DOS and
Mac floppies inserted in the drive (unless they're
write-protected, in which case it uses a CD-ROM icon). I guess
they just assume all SCSI devices are going to fall into those
categories.
--
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Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
| ... couldn't have been ME
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help with SMC Ethernet AUI connection
Date: 24 Jul 1993 08:00:21 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
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We are trying to configure an Intel GX system with an SMC Elite 16 Combo
Ethernet card. The SMC Card and Configure.app are both set for
IRQ 10, port address 300, and Memory base 16k at CC000.
This particular system needs to hook up via an AUI drop cable. The cable
we have does not have all 15 pins, it has pin #:2,3,4,5,6,9,10,12,13
The problem is, when we configure everything using HostManager (with addresses
given to us by MIT), things don't connect when we try to use the network
(via telnet or ftp to a remote site). I think the cable is working fine
because I plugged it into an existing MIT machine with an AUI port, and it
worked. But I fear the SMC card needs to have all 15 pins on the AUI cable
for it to work properly. Does anyone know what if this is the problem or not?
Also, when everything is hooked up, and I run NetInfo Manager, it won't launch.
(I should indicate that we configured the system with NetInfo Binding turned
off under HostManager).
Oh, also, we get this error during boot: autonfsmount: Can't find my address.
But I don't think that makes a difference since we are not using NFS for
anything.
Thanks in advance for the help
-Eric
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: INFO REQUEST: Scanners for NS/I
Message-ID: <1993Jul23.004709.5060@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
References: <1993Jul22.142651.8002@crash>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 93 00:47:09 GMT
Brian Dear writes
> Can anyone recommend 1200dpi or 2400dpi color scanners that work
> with the Intel GX workstation running NEXTSTEP/Intel? And I
> guess there would need to be some software to go with it. I need
> to generate TIFF 8 and 24 bit color images from scanned pictures
> and artwork. I'm interested in first-hand experience, and thanks
> in advance for any replies!
GoldLeaf gave a very impressive demo of the Epson ES800 and their
eXTRASCAN software at last night's BANG meeting. The ES800 scans at
up to 800dpi, and up to 1600 dpi using interpolation. Both looked
very good.
You can reach them at 800-999-8844 or info@goldleaf.com.
Standard disclaimers
--
-
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: pkim@titania (Peter Kim)
Subject: Printer question
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 13:16:13 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jul24.131613.29283@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
Keywords: Printer
Sender: news@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com (Net News)
Hi.
What kind of printers can I use with a NeXT?
Thanks.
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From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: **LONG** NS/I bugs/problems (5.5 pages)
Message-ID: <CAMyD7.rx@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
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Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 21:00:42 GMT
Possible explanation of variable success (or lack of it)
when installing & using NeXTSTEP on Intel-based hardware
-----------------------------------------------------------
by David R. Hill, P.Eng., hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
-----------------------------------------------------------
Many people are having strange problems trying to install NeXTSTEP
on various Intel configurations, even when the items that make up
the configuration are taken from the approved compatibility list. We
have had such problems ourselves.
In particular, we have tried both an Alpha S425S (Adaptec 1540/42 series
compatible SCSI controller) and, more recently, a genuine Adaptec 1542c.
The latter board is generally described as "sensitive" or "picky", and
there are those who suggest it works better with active terminators in
place of passive. Electrically, this does not make much sense. Either
will provide an equivalent impedance match, which is what is needed, so
any differences can only be due to component quality and tolerances affecting
the exact impedance match provided. This is a factor affecting both kinds.
What such sensitivity does mean is that if one terminator
doesn't allow the SCSI board to work,while another does, then the board driving
the SCSI bus is only driving the bus marginally, and small changes in impedance
have an unwarranted effect. In fact it pretty well ensures that the board
can *never* drive the bus reliably simply because it must be marginal if
slight differences in termination can have such an effect. Now the SCSI
has proved a pretty robust standard and works well in many systems. So why
have so many of us had problems in which sometimes things work and sometimes
they don't, when installing NSFIP? We suspect it isn't exactly a SCSI problem.
If it were, why would DOS/Windows work reasonably reliably using exactly
the same drivers, cables etc.? It has to be a software problem, but one which
relates to the hardware-software interface and, in particular, interrupt
handling in an under-specified environment. We elaborate the argument below.
We think our evidence is persuasive even though not conclusive.
Ok, for information, this is our current configuration:
* Dell 466/ME (66-MHz internal/33MHz external i486 chip with Math coprocessor),
16 MB RAM, on-board floppy controller, PS/2 compatible mouse port,
on-board IDE disk controller with 1GB Micropolis drive,
& local bus VGA graphics with 1MB video RAM (but *disabled* because of
next item)
* ATI EISA bus Graphics Pro Ultra video card with 2MB Video RAM
* Nanao 530i.w Flexscan 17" monitor
* Adaptec 1542c SCSI controller with the on-board floppy controller disabled
and all other options as per list in NeXTAnswers
* Ariel DSP56 Signal Processing Card
* Mouse Systems Corporation PC Mouse III PS/2 & Microsoft compatible mouse
* 3.5" floppy
* NeXT CD-ROM Drive (Sony CDU 541)
--------
The system runs DOS 6 and Windows 3.1 just fine. Under DOS/Windows we add a
Pinnacle Micro PMO-650 removable erasable optical drive that also works just
fine. If we leave it attached, when trying to install NeXTSTEP, it is
recognised and causes no problems (but we actually take it out now to keep
possibilities restricted).
When we try to install NeXTSTEP, behaviour is inconsistent (an important
clue in our opinion). A typical sequence goes normally until it gets to:
root on sd0
rootdev 600, howto 0
and starts to read the CD-ROM. Usually it then gets one or more:
intr: dropped IRQ 7
lines, then says:
AHA interrupt: bad status ff
sd0: INVALID STATUS (internal error): FATAL ERROR
target: 0 lun: 0 op:Read block:<some #> blockCount:<some #>
and may "panic" or, if it got far enough, it may produce:
Load of /etc/mach_init, errno 5, trying /etc/init
Load of /etc/init failed, errno 5
It also sometimes fails to get to reading the CD-ROM because it "can't find
the CD-ROM".
Looks like SCSI driving problems, right??? ;-) Well, not exactly, but
probably in part--in the sense that timing is involved, and timing on the
PC bus is ill-defined (originating with the 4.77 MHz 8088 and progressing
unfavourably as clock speeds for the processor have increased whilst the bus
got stuck at 8 MHz)(some systems have faster busses, maybe as high as 16 or
20 MHz). Any SCSI driving problems, or even variations within spec, could
adversely affect PC bus timing problems.
At some point, as a result of an ISA or EISA board asserting an
interrupt, the processor is delivered a four-bit value representing the
IRQ. The four-bit value is read, and used to dispatch the interrupt to an
appropriate handler. If the interrupt ID does not match an expected interrupt,
the interrupt is cleared and dismissed--nothing can be done. But if an
interrupt is genuine, *but misidentified*, this action means that whatever
caused the interrupt will not get serviced, and some kind of error will result
(like internal over-run if the device's output is not suitably buffered).
(Note that in our problem, the next thing after dropping the IRQ 7, we get
an AHA "internal error". Likely the board gets knotted as a result of not
being serviced).
The interrupt controller chip that provides the ID code does so on the basis of
individual lines from the devices (boards) on the motherboard or the PC bus.
It is supposed to take care of races (e.g. when two interrupt lines are
asserted simultaneously). This is too complex to address fully here, but is
usually solved by synchronous logic and a well defined clock. Exactly
what this implies depends on the chip designer(s) and the board designer(s).
In theory, the design takes care of all the problems, except those that are
left to the software designer (see neighbouring paras.). The PC architecture
does not help.
Spurious interrupts are
possible, simply because of the noise on the PC bus, for example.
*Misidentification* is possible if the timing is not exactly right when the
processor responds to the interrupt from the interrupt controller, and picks
up the 4 bit ID code when it is not stable. Given high speeds and clock
doublers, such mistiming is not as unlikely as you might think, and is most
likely to occur when the interrupt controller is being bombarded with many
interrupts, some of which differ from the majority. Tests have shown
that the wrong interrupt ID can be picked up every few seconds when the
processor is doing nothing but deal with interrupts. The solution to this
problem is to check the interrupt ID a second time in the actual interrupt
handling code. If the handler finds the ID is not what the interrupt
controller claims, it can dismiss the interrupt without clearing it, and the
interrupt should then re-occur and get correctly dispatched.
If a *spurious interrupt* occurs due to noise, for a device that has no
handler, or is not in use, the interrupt may safely be dismissed ("dropped").
If a spurious interrupt occurs for a device that *is* in use, then again,
problems and errors may occur, since the processor will try to service the
device at what may be an inappropriate time. The solution then is to check the
device status before servicing it. These are all standard precautions in
managing interrupts in less than perfect hardware (e.g white as
opposed to black!! :-))
Our diagnosis is based on what we have just outlined. It thus seems to
be an inherent problem with
the PC architecture (or lack of it!) that has an easy workaround
in software, if NeXT are willing to co-operate. To save space, we
won't give all the byways and tests that led us to the diagnosis, but we
think you will find it plausible even in abbreviated form.
**Tentative diagnosis & possible solution**
--------------------
SYMPTOMS
We have given our specific symptoms. Most reported behaviour is intermittent
and/or variable. For example the SCSI CD-ROM will sometimes work
long enough to use the machine under NeXTSTEP, sometimes long enough to
get part-way through installation, and sometimes won't even be recognised.
Some people with some combinations of hardware
feel there's no problem, and that those who have problems haven't configured
something properly, terminated things properly, used the right flavour of
terminator or other hardware, have finger trouble, etc. etc. This diagnosis
may be correct in some cases, but not likely in all. All kinds of strange
problems show up, including serial ports that hardly work at all, and
are currently under urgent revision. Myths develop about cures (like the
active versus passive terminator cure) because the symptoms are so variable,
and the possibility of success so subject to chance, that people latch
onto whatever change was last made when the process (whatever it is) finally
and perhaps only temporarily works.
First you must realise that the timing on the PC bus is undefined. You build
boards to interface to it by copying what someone else did, by luck, or by
having a pact with Murphy. The real system clock is not available on the bus!
The clock is some irrational fraction of the real clock, which almost
guarantees timing problems. Then you must realise that system clock speeds
have been increasing. Finally, you must take account of the previous
discussion about interrupt recognition. We can now consider specifics
of our problems which we think have general implications.
You will remember the failure to boot is usually preceded by a dropped IRQ 7.
IRQ 7 is assigned to the LPT1 on the Dell system. It shouldn't be causing
interrupts as it is output only, and nothing is connected to it. Now
"eisacfg" is used to set up many system parameters including the EISA
allotment and board attributes, mother board stuff and so on. WE TURNED
OFF the LPT1 assignment, and also tried setting it to the alternate (which
changes the IRQ ID to IRQ 5). BUT THE IRQ 7 MESSAGE JUST BEFORE FAILURE
PERSISTED!!!
TENTATIVE DIAGNOSIS
We believe there is a timing or noise problem that causes an IRQ 7 to replace
the SCSI IRQ 11 interrupt (in the case of our problem). The occurrence of this
will depend on the exact hardware configuration (due to line loading and
device characetristics, service demands, etc.) and things like the processor
speed (we would expect most problems with a 66 MHz DX2 i486, all other things
being equal). The SCSI bus is not the same as the PC bus, but any timing
problems will propagate, so SCSI cables, terminators, and the like can have
an effect, even if the SCSI bus itself "works" in some sense. Equally,
the devices you plug in, the motherboard you use, and what else is going
on in the system can all have an effect. That is the difficulty with this
kind of problem.
If an IRQ 7 replaced IRQ 11, the system would decide it was an unrecognised
interrupt and dismiss it without processing it. That would be fine if it were
spurious noise with no real action required. However, in the case
of misrecognition, the SCSI controller
would have asked for service without being serviced, and would then
generate an error, which is what we actually see. If it happened when trying
identify the CD-ROM on the SCSI bus, the CD-ROM might simply not be recognised.
Again, we see that happen.
That is our diagnosis of what is most likely going wrong, based on our
limited access to information.
A POSSIBLE SOLUTION
The workaround?? Fairly simple for the systems people. When an interrupt
occurs, the routine that handles the interrupt should re-read the state of the
interrupt code. If the current state is not what the interrupt controller
claimed when generating the interrupt DO NOT CLEAR THE INTERRUPT, BUT
SIMPLY RETURN FROM INTERRUPT. The next time round (immediate), things should
have stabilised, and the correct handler will deal with the problem.
This could possibly cause other problems, but they are easily dealt with and
I omit the details to reduce confusion.
When the interrupts claimed and seen are the same, check the device status
before attempting any operation on the device, just in case the
interrupt is spurious. This adds a little overhead, but is a good firewall
for such critical code, in the PC environment.
We'd be interested in reaction to this, our first rough cut at what seems
to be a real problem with NSFIP. Maybe if you check how Microsoft handle
interrupts, you'll find out that this is what they do (if they'll tell you!).
However, these are well known tricks to those who have worked with
ill-specified hardware in the past.
If we are right, our problem may not be the only one caused by the
ill-defined timing etc. that is characteristic of the PC architecture. Our
valiant NeXT programmers are used to working in a much better defined
hardware environment than that provided by the white hardware, and should not
be taken to task for overlooking this rather obscure possibility, if it should
turn out we are right. However, they do have the facilities and information
to check out our theory, and we very much hope they do.
*** NeXT**** PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THIS THEORY AND CHECK IT OUT****
***** IT COULD HELP EVERYONE!!*****
Acknowledgements
----------------
I acknowledge, with gratitude, the helpful criticisms and advice provided
--
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voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge.
nextmail: hill@flip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca | (Albert Einstein)
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Software for ND
Message-ID: <CAKKsH.AD@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 14:12:16 GMT
What software, public domain or comrecial, is available to do cool
stuff on a NeXTDimension?
I now have a ND system and want to play around with some video stuff.
Is there anything available that will allow you to overlay computer images
with the live video, etc?
Kent
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From: ted@nxbir1.us.dg.com (Ted on NeXT System)
Subject: Re: NS on portables
Sender: usenet@webo.dg.com (Usenet Administration)
Message-ID: <1993Jul24.012326.3667@webo.dg.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 93 01:23:26 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.next
References: <CAIpI3.HvM@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Organization: Data General Corp.
In article <CAIpI3.HvM@ra.nrl.navy.mil> pitre@n5160d.nrl.navy.mil (Richard
Pitre) writes:
> I need a portable machine to run Nextstep.
> What are the problems and limitations with doing this.
> If anyone knows of anything that works well, please post.
>
NeXTWorld, June/July had an overview of NeXTStep for Intel PCs with two
portables, NEC Ultralite Versa 25c and Compaq Portable '486/66. Both of
them were capable of VGA only, therefore you won't get the full NeXT
screen...only a 640x480 screen with bigger icons and less of them.
Also, I can't figure out a reasonable way of taking a NeXT portable into a
hotel room and dialing out to pick up NeXTMail messages. Especially, if
sound or pictures are attached.
These are just a couple of observations off the top of my head, I'm sure
there are more.
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: INFO REQUEST: Scanners for NS/I
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 24 Jul 93 09:58:35 PDT
Message-ID: <1993Jul24.095836.25222@crash>
References: <1993Jul23.004709.5060@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Stefano Pagiola (spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu) wrote:
: Brian Dear writes
: > Can anyone recommend 1200dpi or 2400dpi color scanners that work
: > with the Intel GX workstation running NEXTSTEP/Intel? And I
: > guess there would need to be some software to go with it. I need
: > to generate TIFF 8 and 24 bit color images from scanned pictures
: > and artwork. I'm interested in first-hand experience, and thanks
: > in advance for any replies!
:
: GoldLeaf gave a very impressive demo of the Epson ES800 and their
: eXTRASCAN software at last night's BANG meeting. The ES800 scans at
: up to 800dpi, and up to 1600 dpi using interpolation. Both looked
: very good.
:
: You can reach them at 800-999-8844 or info@goldleaf.com.
:
: Standard disclaimers
: --
: -
: Stefano Pagiola
: Food Research Institute, Stanford University
: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
: spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Thanks for the reply. I think I goofed, I didn't know common desktop
scanners can't do 1200dpi or 2400dpi. Several folks emailed me saying
2400dpi scanners cost $40,000 and up. Shows how much I know about scanners.
I think this Epson ES800 sounds good. Will investigate.
-- brian dear
coconut computing, inc.
la jolla, california
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From: bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com (Martin Bublitz)
Subject: 68040 board won't bootup
Message-ID: <1993Jul24.200412.4523@mdd.comm.mot.com>
Sender: news@mdd.comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola, Wireless Data Group - Richmond, BC
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 20:04:12 GMT
I've just acquired a 68040 board (thank you J.C. Lee!!) and I am
running into difficulties getting it to start up. I've issued the
"disk -b /dev/rsd0a" from root (I'm running 2.1) and I get the following
error message after it attempts to boot from the SCSI disk:
Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x4380000
Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x100b758
Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x1003f2a
Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x10040ca
I only get one of the above at a time, but after sending the "b" command,
the last figure sometimes changes.
Can anyone interpret this error for me since I can't find it anywhere
in the documentation.
Thanks,
Martin Bublitz
From: jirapa@nextover.pe.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: installing tablet problem
Message-ID: <88575@ut-emx.uucp>
Date: 24 Jul 93 20:56:48 GMT
Sender: news@ut-emx.uucp
Distribution: usa
Hi,
I am having trouble installing a summagraphics mm1812 tablet to the serial port
B on the NeXT 040 cube. I have tried to play with the /etc/ttys logged in as
root but InstallTablet would not recognize the device. I am sure that the
tablet is on and connected to the port B by a mac modem cable.
Does anybody know how I can solve this problem?
Thanks
Jirapa
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From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: Help with SMC Ethernet AUI connection
Message-ID: <1993Jul25.010430.12943@news.csuohio.edu>
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Organization: Cleveland State University
References: <22qq6l$bqs@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 01:04:30 GMT
Eric M Hermanson (zmonster@athena.mit.edu) wrote:
: We are trying to configure an Intel GX system with an SMC Elite 16 Combo
: Ethernet card. The SMC Card and Configure.app are both set for
: IRQ 10, port address 300, and Memory base 16k at CC000.
: This particular system needs to hook up via an AUI drop cable. The cable
: we have does not have all 15 pins, it has pin #:2,3,4,5,6,9,10,12,13
: The problem is, when we configure everything using HostManager (with addresses
: given to us by MIT), things don't connect when we try to use the network
: (via telnet or ftp to a remote site). I think the cable is working fine
: because I plugged it into an existing MIT machine with an AUI port, and it
: worked. But I fear the SMC card needs to have all 15 pins on the AUI cable
: for it to work properly. Does anyone know what if this is the problem or not?
This is just a guess, and a suggestion, but try using the EZSETUP to
configure the card to your specificatins, then reattach and try to
reinstall via the NeXTSTEP route. Maybe this will help.
If you need the files on the Super Disk ftp to
trans.csuohio.edu:/pub/smc/sprdsk51.exe (self extracting zip file)
[137.148.22.51].
Good luck,
Joe
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From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Subject: Re: NS on IBM Thinkpad?
Message-ID: <1993Jul25.014923.3350@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
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References: <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> <1993Jul15.160812.37295@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 93 01:49:23 GMT
In article <1993Jul15.160812.37295@rchland.ibm.com> tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes:
>In article <93196.011728U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>|> Does anyone (everyone) know if NS will run on IBM's Thinkpad. Specifically
>|> the color one - I think it's the 700C or something like that. My dad is sold
>|> on the Thinkpad, and I might have him sold on NS - if it runs on it.
>|> Sorry for the basic question, but I just don't know that much about the IBM's.
>|> Thanks!
>|>
>|>
>|> -tom nawara
>|> nirvana@boss.math.uic.edu
>|> ideaLABS
>
>The IBM Thinkpad 700C uses the 486 SLC processor. If I remember my hardware list correctly, the SLC processors are NOT on that list so indeed the 700C may not in fact work with NeXTSTEP. Then again, this doesn't mean it won't work either.
>
>After try various pieces of hardware, configurations, IRQs etc on my quest to get NS/FIP on a machine for myself, I found the best thing to do was just try it. Most dealers are open to letting folks test drive systems. Lets you as a user show them a thin
g or two as well if the installation works.
>
> Tom
>
>
>--
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>gypsy!servo@csn.org (home -- NeXTMail ok)
>_________________________________________________________________________
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I've got a ThinkPad floating around the office. I'll commandeer it and try
a NS/I installation and report back in the future.
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From: delozier@mcs.kent.edu (Greg Delozier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problem initializing IDE drive during Dell installation...
Date: 25 Jul 1993 04:46:55 GMT
Organization: Kent State University
Message-ID: <22t37v$87j@usenet.mcs.kent.edu>
We're trying to install NS on a Dell 466M (486,DX2,etc.) with a 450 meg
IDE hard drive and the CDROM on an Adaptec SCSI 1540B controller (controller
ID=7, CDROM ID = 0).
First, every now and then it gets as far as printing the label on the CDROM
and then freezes. Very perplexing.
But with a little patience, we can usually get as far as telling it to
go ahead and install. Then we get messages during the disk preparation
activity (after the fdisk operations) that look like this:
[...Stray Interrupt:IdeWriteMultiple]
and some various complaints about IRQ7's being dropped.
Any ideas? We'd really appreciate it, as we're pretty well stuck...
-greg
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: **LONG** NS/I bugs/problems (5.5 pages)
Date: 25 Jul 1993 04:42:42 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <22t302$pdd@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <CAMyD7.rx@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Okay, I'll take a make a few comments, though I won't claim to be a
Nextstep, SCSI or PC guru. Misc. stuff deleted.
In article <CAMyD7.rx@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes:
>Possible explanation of variable success (or lack of it)
>when installing & using NeXTSTEP on Intel-based hardware
>Many people are having strange problems trying to install NeXTSTEP
>on various Intel configurations, even when the items that make up
>the configuration are taken from the approved compatibility list. We
>have had such problems ourselves.
>
>In particular, we have tried both an Alpha S425S (Adaptec 1540/42 series
>compatible SCSI controller) and, more recently, a genuine Adaptec 1542c.
>The latter board is generally described as "sensitive" or "picky", and
>there are those who suggest it works better with active terminators in
>place of passive. Electrically, this does not make much sense. Either
>will provide an equivalent impedance match, which is what is needed, so
>any differences can only be due to component quality and tolerances affecting
>the exact impedance match provided. This is a factor affecting both kinds.
Well, the SCSI bus is a combination of controller, disk, cables and
terminators all of which have to work in unison to operate properly.
I've seen cases where cheap cables are at fault. A little crosstalk
between signals, a little noise, a little impedance mismatch and your
data is toast. Also timing issues and signal jitter are never quite as
dependable as "Standards" make them out to be, there's plenty of room
for a device to meet the spec, but be incompatible with other devices.
Additionally, IMHO PC scsi cards are inferior in performace and reliabilty
to those in workstations (DEC,NeXT,Sun etc...). In any case, someone with
a commerical SCSI Bus Analyzer could probably get to the bottom of this
problem quite quickly.
>If it were, why would DOS/Windows work reasonably reliably using exactly
>the same drivers, cables etc.? It has to be a software problem, but one which
>relates to the hardware-software interface and, in particular, interrupt
>handling in an under-specified environment. We elaborate the argument below.
>We think our evidence is persuasive even though not conclusive.
>
Dos is a simple (okay stupid) operating system running a 486 most of the
time in 16 bit mode. NeXT is running 32 bits. There are all
sorts flaws that have yet to be discovered. Microsoft is proably more
aware of these bugs and possible workarounds than NeXT could be.
The it works for DOS/doesnt work in NEXT so it must be NEXT's fault
isn't always valid. You can't blame or forgive NEXT until you actually
get to the root of your problem.
>Ok, for information, this is our current configuration:
>* Dell 466/ME (66-MHz internal/33MHz external i486 chip with Math coprocessor),
> 16 MB RAM, on-board floppy controller, PS/2 compatible mouse port,
> on-board IDE disk controller with 1GB Micropolis drive,
> & local bus VGA graphics with 1MB video RAM (but *disabled* because of
> next item)
>* ATI EISA bus Graphics Pro Ultra video card with 2MB Video RAM
>* Nanao 530i.w Flexscan 17" monitor
>* Adaptec 1542c SCSI controller with the on-board floppy controller disabled
> and all other options as per list in NeXTAnswers
>* Ariel DSP56 Signal Processing Card
>* Mouse Systems Corporation PC Mouse III PS/2 & Microsoft compatible mouse
>* 3.5" floppy
>* NeXT CD-ROM Drive (Sony CDU 541)
>--------
okay, a resonable (and familiar) configuration. You might want to tell us
about your bios and any bios shadowing options. I'm rusty on mice, I
assume the Microsoft mouse is not a BUS mouse. Personally, I'd take out
the ariel card and anything not required for a minimal system until the you
make it a few steps farther. Who made your SCSI cables and how long are
they.
>The system runs DOS 6 and Windows 3.1 just fine. Under DOS/Windows we add a
I think this is irrelevant.
>Pinnacle Micro PMO-650 removable erasable optical drive that also works just
>fine. If we leave it attached, when trying to install NeXTSTEP, it is
>recognised and causes no problems (but we actually take it out now to keep
>possibilities restricted).
That makes sense.
>
>When we try to install NeXTSTEP, behaviour is inconsistent (an important
>clue in our opinion). A typical sequence goes normally until it gets to:
>
> root on sd0
> rootdev 600, howto 0
>
>and starts to read the CD-ROM. Usually it then gets one or more:
>
> intr: dropped IRQ 7
>
I get this alot too. I don't know if its a result of probing around
looking for hardware or something misprogrammed. Doesn't bother
my system, but I admit to not being too keen on seeing it.
>lines, then says:
>
> AHA interrupt: bad status ff
> sd0: INVALID STATUS (internal error): FATAL ERROR
> target: 0 lun: 0 op:Read block:<some #> blockCount:<some #>
>
>and may "panic" or, if it got far enough, it may produce:
>
> Load of /etc/mach_init, errno 5, trying /etc/init
> Load of /etc/init failed, errno 5
>
>It also sometimes fails to get to reading the CD-ROM because it "can't find
>the CD-ROM".
>
>Looks like SCSI driving problems, right??? ;-) Well, not exactly, but
>probably in part--in the sense that timing is involved, and timing on the
I wouldn't say "driving". Any component in the SCSI could be at fault.
IMHO I'd make sure I had nice short high quality cable (My axe to grind,
I've been burned several times on cheap cables). Can you slow the system
down? Or install it on another system and move the disk over to this one?
[Rest of speculation deleted].
>left to the software designer (see neighbouring paras.). The PC architecture
>does not help.
>
Damn straight.
>Spurious interrupts are
>possible, simply because of the noise on the PC bus, for example.
>*Misidentification* is possible if the timing is not exactly right when the
>processor responds to the interrupt from the interrupt controller, and picks
>up the 4 bit ID code when it is not stable. Given high speeds and clock
>doublers, such mistiming is not as unlikely as you might think, and is most
>likely to occur when the interrupt controller is being bombarded with many
>....
You have my agreement, the interrupt design for PC's is and always has
been entirely inadequate.
>If a *spurious interrupt* occurs due to noise, for a device that has no
>handler, or is not in use, the interrupt may safely be dismissed ("dropped").
>If a spurious interrupt occurs for a device that *is* in use, then again,
>problems and errors may occur, since the processor will try to service the
>device at what may be an inappropriate time. The solution then is to check the
>device status before servicing it. These are all standard precautions in
>managing interrupts in less than perfect hardware (e.g white as
>opposed to black!! :-))
True, but I suspect the environment the system is running under, booted off
of the Next floppy is quite restricted in memory and therefore flexibility
to deal with these problems.
>
>You will remember the failure to boot is usually preceded by a dropped IRQ 7.
>IRQ 7 is assigned to the LPT1 on the Dell system. It shouldn't be causing
>interrupts as it is output only, and nothing is connected to it. Now
>"eisacfg" is used to set up many system parameters including the EISA
>allotment and board attributes, mother board stuff and so on. WE TURNED
>OFF the LPT1 assignment, and also tried setting it to the alternate (which
>changes the IRQ ID to IRQ 5). BUT THE IRQ 7 MESSAGE JUST BEFORE FAILURE
>PERSISTED!!!
Again, this may be the result of some bus probing during booting.
>
>TENTATIVE DIAGNOSIS
>We believe there is a timing or noise problem that causes an IRQ 7 to replace
No Flames intented but as I said, my system survives the IRQ 7. Perhaps
this has nothing to do with your problem? I know its annoying as hell to
not be able to configure your system. Given what you and I know about the
(damn) PC architecture, it will take NeXT some time to master additional
platforms. I'm sure they are aware of some or all of these issues and will
climb the learning curve quickly. I'd love it if NS/FIP was a mindless
install. It is not (yet), but it is still incredibly simple for the
complexity of the operating system.
Why don't you share a few more configuation details and perhaps
with the help of others we can help you along.
Oh yeah, I supposed to install NS/FIP on a system identical to yours
next week :-(
--
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j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
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From: drarick@panther.weeg.uiowa.edu (David Rarick)
Subject: HELP! Video on my MegaPixel
Message-ID: <1993Jul25.044021.13220@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Keywords: NTSC S-video MegaPixel
Sender: news@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (News)
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 04:40:21 GMT
Can anyone help me with this? I want to use my 21" MegaPixel as a video
monitor, with either an NTSC or S-video source. Can anyone tell me if this
is possible? And I don't want to do it through the slab. I want it to
stand alone, and run off of a VCR.
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David A. Rarick
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From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT??
Date: 23 Jul 1993 23:49:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu>
Keywords: Fax modem ZyXEL
Could someone who has successfully used a ZyXEL high-speed modem on a NeXT
please contact me? The literature claims it will work, but I am unable to:
1) Dial out via tip or kermit
2) Log in once I dial up the modem from outside
3) Send a fax out via the built-in OS 3.0 fax software
4) Receive a fax
In other words, I cant do anything with the thing! ZyXEL has not been able to
give my any help at all since they have no NeXTs there. They claim it works
fine when run via the software from Black and White -- but cant help me get it
working for simple things like using the modem as a regular dial-in dial-out
modem, which does not involve its fax capabilities at all.
Here is some further information:
The modem is a ZyXEL U-1496E.
I have a "68040 Modem Cable" from NextConnection, which is wired correctly for
hardware flow control (I checked).
I have tried many many different settings for the getty process -- using
/dev/ttyda and /dev/ttydfa, using std.2400, std.19200, D19200, etc., etc.
When I attempt to connect to the modem via tip or kermit, the process hangs as
soon as it (supposedly) connects to the modem, and I get no response from the
modem, and I have to reboot the machine to kill the tip or kermit process!
If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very grateful!
Thanks.
--
Douglas Scott (805)893-8352
Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (alex)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT??
Message-ID: <88587@ut-emx.uucp>
Date: 25 Jul 93 16:09:38 GMT
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Douglas Scott writes
>The modem is a ZyXEL U-1496E.
>
>I have a "68040 Modem Cable" from NextConnection, which is wired
>correctly for hardware flow control (I checked).
>
>I have tried many many different settings for the getty process -- using
>/dev/ttyda and /dev/ttydfa, using std.2400, std.19200, D19200, etc., etc.
>
>When I attempt to connect to the modem via tip or kermit, the process
>hangs as oon as it (supposedly) connects to the modem, and I get no
>response from the modem, and I have to reboot the machine to kill the tip
>or kermit process!
>
>If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very grateful!
Part of your problem is that you need to be using the /dev/cua or dev/cufa
devices instead of the tty devices. Normally the tty devices are reserved
for directly connected terminals. There is no need to change the ttys
file. All I did was add an entry in the /etc/remote file:
a38400|cua38400|Dial-out on cua at 38400 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cua:br#38400:tc=BASIC:
(for the cua device, and...)
fa38400|cufa38400|Dial-out on cufa at 38400 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cufa:br#38400:tc=BASIC:
(for the cufa device.)
Here is a copy of my .kermrc file:
---------------------------- cut here -------------------------------
set modem hayes
set line /dev/cua
set speed 38400
set block 3
set window 3
set send packet-length 2084
set receive packet-length 1913
set flow xon/xoff
set dial speed-matching off
set file type binary
set file names literal
set file display on
define cls echo \27[H\27[J
if def \$(Workspace) -
set file display full
else set file display crt
define bsend set file type binary, send \%1 \%2 ; Send binary file(s)
define tsend set file type text, send \%1 \%2 ; Send text file(s)
c
---------------------------- cut here -------------------------------
.. after which I manually dial with "atdt 475-9996" or whatnot.
This should make kermit work just fine. These settings are for a SupraFAX
v.32bis but I am pretty sure they'll work for you too.
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From: anash@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Adam Nash)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1993 19:08:13 GMT
Subject: NextStep on PPC?
Message-ID: <90270001@hpldsla.sid.hp.com>
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Is NextStep being ported to the Power PC?
I've gotten conflicting reports...
Comments, please ...
-Adam
From: karthy@dannug.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT??
Date: 25 Jul 1993 16:18:12 GMT
Organization: Dannug - Danish NeXT Users Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Jul25181812@dannug.dannug.dk>
References: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu>
In-reply-to: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu's message of 23 Jul 1993 23:49:48 GMT
>>>>> On 23 Jul 1993 23:49:48 GMT, doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott) said:
Douglas> Could someone who has successfully used a ZyXEL high-speed modem on a NeXT
Douglas> please contact me? The literature claims it will work, but I am unable to:
Douglas> 1) Dial out via tip or kermit
Douglas> 2) Log in once I dial up the modem from outside
Douglas> 3) Send a fax out via the built-in OS 3.0 fax software
Douglas> 4) Receive a fax
I use ZyXEL with great success, but:
1) To dial out using tip I use this entry added in /etc/remote:
# Next added karthy 920716
b38400|comm|Hardwire on ttyb at 38400 baud:\
:dv=/dev/cufb:br#38400:el=^C^S^Q^U^D:ie=%$:oe=^D:
The I type: "tip comm" where after the modem returns with "connected"
and I can issue modem commands like "atdt12345678" where the number is
a phone number. You can also issue other modem commands like "ati". I
have been using this setup during a very long time without any
problems.
2) To dial in you need to configure /etc/ttys. I use this entry:
# modem should be on
ttydfb "/usr/etc/getty D38400" vt100 on
I can't remember if D38400 is a standard entry in /etc/gettytab, but
here is my entry anyway:
w|D38400|Fast-Dial-38400:\
:nx=D19200:tc=38400-baud:
3 + 4) It is not possible to either send or receive fax with the
standard 3.0 NeXTSTEP operating system. To use the fax capabilities,
you need to get an external fax program. I use NXFax with great
success. NXFax provides transparent faxing so that you can use the
standard NeXT printpanel to send faxes and use NeXT Faxreader to view
received faxes. It also supports both dialin and receive of fax on the
same port and it works with tip, kermit, SLiP and PPP.
If you still have problems, then let me know and you can get a copy of
my setup files.
Good luck,
Karsten.
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: B/w Monitors
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA
Date: 25 Jul 93 16:19:17 PDT
Message-ID: <1993Jul25.161917.21925@crash>
References: <22pavoINN3rl@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
fl wrote:
: I am having a problem with all of our B/W nextstation monitors, they are all
: gradually losing their briteness. I have tried the internal black level
: adjustments, with only a slight improvement. Is there anyone else out there
: with the same problem?
: Alse, can you use a third part b/w monitor with the next boxes?
:
: Thank you
: David
We have a NeXTcube with a mono MegaPixel display. We bought it in 1990.
We just in the past few days bought and installed an Intel GX Professional
running NEXTSTEP for Intel. And call it coincidence or not, our MegaPixel
display has begun the infamous fade-out. It is noticeably dimmer than
normal.
We too are interested in others' experiences in rectifying this situation.
I am esp. interested in hearing of anyone's experience dealing with
Bell Atlantic for the repair of mono MegaPixels. I assume that's who we
have to call, right?
-- brian
From: chi@watnxt08.uucp (Lung-chi Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: what is EISA bus support?
Keywords: 486 Eisa VLB
Message-ID: <34631@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Date: 26 Jul 93 01:33:34 GMT
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Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Riverside.
I read the system requirement for NS/FIP ... it says EISA Bus support...
and then at the graphic card requirement it says ATI VLB Graphic???? I am
confused... if I have a VESA Local Bus motherboard without EISA bus slot
will NeXTStep still run under it? Do I really need to have bother EISA
bus and VESA SLOTS on my mother board?
Somebody please answer my question...
Thanks for your help!
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From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann)
Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT??
Message-ID: <ntomczak.743594464@vega>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu> <KARTHY.93Jul25181812@dannug.dannug.dk>
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 10:01:04 GMT
It looks like that everybody responding to this question propose
to dial with 'atdt ...', whatever. This is, obviously, one way,
but for more often used numbers you may add, for kermit, in your
.kermrc lines like this:
define this dial 5555555
define that dial 6666666
and just type 'this' or 'that' at a kermit prompt. This strings
can more complicated, including requests for a pause when going
through switchboard, and the like.
For tip this requires a cooperation of your sysadmin, but it is possible
to add in /etc/remote something in this style:
this|this corp:\
:cm=atz\r:pn=5555555:hd:tc=dial38400:
that|other place:\
:cm=at&k0&n14&m0\r:pn=6666666,:hd:tc=tip38400:
If a number is @ then a file phones is searched (from PHONES env
variable, default /etc/phones). Then a tip user may just try
tip this (or tipx this)
tip that
(This capability may depend on a particular version of tip. Your
mileage may vary).
Michal Jaegermann
ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca
From: pnguyen@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Peter Nguyen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SLIP help
Message-ID: <40053@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: 26 Jul 93 03:08:36 GMT
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
I would like to setup SLIP from my NeXT blackbox Netinfo server to my
Intel NeXT box. Please provides a sw package and/or instruction on
how to do this. Thanks
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From: raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam)
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In article <22t302$pdd@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
>Okay, I'll take a make a few comments, though I won't claim to be a
>Nextstep, SCSI or PC guru. Misc. stuff deleted.
>
>
>In article <CAMyD7.rx@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes:
>>Possible explanation of variable success (or lack of it)
>>when installing & using NeXTSTEP on Intel-based hardware
>>Many people are having strange problems trying to install NeXTSTEP
>>on various Intel configurations, even when the items that make up
>>the configuration are taken from the approved compatibility list. We
>>have had such problems ourselves.
>>
>>In particular, we have tried both an Alpha S425S (Adaptec 1540/42 series
>>compatible SCSI controller) and, more recently, a genuine Adaptec 1542c.
>>The latter board is generally described as "sensitive" or "picky", and
>>there are those who suggest it works better with active terminators in
>>place of passive. Electrically, this does not make much sense. Either
>>will provide an equivalent impedance match, which is what is needed, so
>>any differences can only be due to component quality and tolerances affecting
>>the exact impedance match provided. This is a factor affecting both kinds.
>
>Well, the SCSI bus is a combination of controller, disk, cables and
>terminators all of which have to work in unison to operate properly.
>I've seen cases where cheap cables are at fault. A little crosstalk
>between signals, a little noise, a little impedance mismatch and your
>data is toast. Also timing issues and signal jitter are never quite as
>dependable as "Standards" make them out to be, there's plenty of room
>for a device to meet the spec, but be incompatible with other devices.
>
>
>Additionally, IMHO PC scsi cards are inferior in performace and reliabilty
>to those in workstations (DEC,NeXT,Sun etc...). In any case, someone with
>a commerical SCSI Bus Analyzer could probably get to the bottom of this
>problem quite quickly.
>
>
>>If it were, why would DOS/Windows work reasonably reliably using exactly
>>the same drivers, cables etc.? It has to be a software problem, but one which
>>relates to the hardware-software interface and, in particular, interrupt
>>handling in an under-specified environment. We elaborate the argument below.
>>We think our evidence is persuasive even though not conclusive.
>>
>
>Dos is a simple (okay stupid) operating system running a 486 most of the
>time in 16 bit mode. NeXT is running 32 bits. There are all
>sorts flaws that have yet to be discovered. Microsoft is proably more
>aware of these bugs and possible workarounds than NeXT could be.
>The it works for DOS/doesnt work in NEXT so it must be NEXT's fault
>isn't always valid. You can't blame or forgive NEXT until you actually
>get to the root of your problem.
>
>
>
>
>>Ok, for information, this is our current configuration:
>>* Dell 466/ME (66-MHz internal/33MHz external i486 chip with Math coprocessor),
>> 16 MB RAM, on-board floppy controller, PS/2 compatible mouse port,
>> on-board IDE disk controller with 1GB Micropolis drive,
>> & local bus VGA graphics with 1MB video RAM (but *disabled* because of
>> next item)
>>* ATI EISA bus Graphics Pro Ultra video card with 2MB Video RAM
>>* Nanao 530i.w Flexscan 17" monitor
>>* Adaptec 1542c SCSI controller with the on-board floppy controller disabled
>> and all other options as per list in NeXTAnswers
>>* Ariel DSP56 Signal Processing Card
>>* Mouse Systems Corporation PC Mouse III PS/2 & Microsoft compatible mouse
>>* 3.5" floppy
>>* NeXT CD-ROM Drive (Sony CDU 541)
>>--------
>
>okay, a resonable (and familiar) configuration. You might want to tell us
>about your bios and any bios shadowing options. I'm rusty on mice, I
>assume the Microsoft mouse is not a BUS mouse. Personally, I'd take out
>the ariel card and anything not required for a minimal system until the you
>make it a few steps farther. Who made your SCSI cables and how long are
>they.
>
>>The system runs DOS 6 and Windows 3.1 just fine. Under DOS/Windows we add a
>
>I think this is irrelevant.
>
>>Pinnacle Micro PMO-650 removable erasable optical drive that also works just
>>fine. If we leave it attached, when trying to install NeXTSTEP, it is
>>recognised and causes no problems (but we actually take it out now to keep
>>possibilities restricted).
>
>That makes sense.
>
>>
>>When we try to install NeXTSTEP, behaviour is inconsistent (an important
>>clue in our opinion). A typical sequence goes normally until it gets to:
>>
>> root on sd0
>> rootdev 600, howto 0
>>
>>and starts to read the CD-ROM. Usually it then gets one or more:
>>
>> intr: dropped IRQ 7
>>
>
>I get this alot too. I don't know if its a result of probing around
>looking for hardware or something misprogrammed. Doesn't bother
>my system, but I admit to not being too keen on seeing it.
>
>>lines, then says:
>>
>> AHA interrupt: bad status ff
>> sd0: INVALID STATUS (internal error): FATAL ERROR
>> target: 0 lun: 0 op:Read block:<some #> blockCount:<some #>
>>
>>and may "panic" or, if it got far enough, it may produce:
>>
>> Load of /etc/mach_init, errno 5, trying /etc/init
>> Load of /etc/init failed, errno 5
>>
>>It also sometimes fails to get to reading the CD-ROM because it "can't find
>>the CD-ROM".
>>
>>Looks like SCSI driving problems, right??? ;-) Well, not exactly, but
>>probably in part--in the sense that timing is involved, and timing on the
>
>I wouldn't say "driving". Any component in the SCSI could be at fault.
>IMHO I'd make sure I had nice short high quality cable (My axe to grind,
>I've been burned several times on cheap cables). Can you slow the system
>down? Or install it on another system and move the disk over to this one?
>
>[Rest of speculation deleted].
>
>>left to the software designer (see neighbouring paras.). The PC architecture
>>does not help.
>>
>
>Damn straight.
>
>>Spurious interrupts are
>>possible, simply because of the noise on the PC bus, for example.
>>*Misidentification* is possible if the timing is not exactly right when the
>>processor responds to the interrupt from the interrupt controller, and picks
>>up the 4 bit ID code when it is not stable. Given high speeds and clock
>>doublers, such mistiming is not as unlikely as you might think, and is most
>>likely to occur when the interrupt controller is being bombarded with many
>>....
>
>You have my agreement, the interrupt design for PC's is and always has
>been entirely inadequate.
>
>>If a *spurious interrupt* occurs due to noise, for a device that has no
>>handler, or is not in use, the interrupt may safely be dismissed ("dropped").
>>If a spurious interrupt occurs for a device that *is* in use, then again,
>>problems and errors may occur, since the processor will try to service the
>>device at what may be an inappropriate time. The solution then is to check the
>>device status before servicing it. These are all standard precautions in
>>managing interrupts in less than perfect hardware (e.g white as
>>opposed to black!! :-))
>
>True, but I suspect the environment the system is running under, booted off
>of the Next floppy is quite restricted in memory and therefore flexibility
>to deal with these problems.
>
>>
>>You will remember the failure to boot is usually preceded by a dropped IRQ 7.
>>IRQ 7 is assigned to the LPT1 on the Dell system. It shouldn't be causing
>>interrupts as it is output only, and nothing is connected to it. Now
>>"eisacfg" is used to set up many system parameters including the EISA
>>allotment and board attributes, mother board stuff and so on. WE TURNED
>>OFF the LPT1 assignment, and also tried setting it to the alternate (which
>>changes the IRQ ID to IRQ 5). BUT THE IRQ 7 MESSAGE JUST BEFORE FAILURE
>>PERSISTED!!!
>
>Again, this may be the result of some bus probing during booting.
>
>
>>
>>TENTATIVE DIAGNOSIS
>>We believe there is a timing or noise problem that causes an IRQ 7 to replace
>
>No Flames intented but as I said, my system survives the IRQ 7. Perhaps
>this has nothing to do with your problem? I know its annoying as hell to
>not be able to configure your system. Given what you and I know about the
>(damn) PC architecture, it will take NeXT some time to master additional
>platforms. I'm sure they are aware of some or all of these issues and will
>climb the learning curve quickly. I'd love it if NS/FIP was a mindless
>install. It is not (yet), but it is still incredibly simple for the
>complexity of the operating system.
>
>Why don't you share a few more configuation details and perhaps
>with the help of others we can help you along.
>
>Oh yeah, I supposed to install NS/FIP on a system identical to yours
>next week :-(
>
>
>
>--
>Jerry S. Weiss
>j-weiss@nwu.edu
>Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
>%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
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In article <22t302$pdd@news.acns.nwu.edu> you write:
>Okay, I'll take a make a few comments, though I won't claim to be a
>Nextstep, SCSI or PC guru. Misc. stuff deleted.
>
>
>In article <CAMyD7.rx@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes:
>>Possible explanation of variable success (or lack of it)
>>when installing & using NeXTSTEP on Intel-based hardware
>>Many people are having strange problems trying to install NeXTSTEP
>>on various Intel configurations, even when the items that make up
>>the configuration are taken from the approved compatibility list. We
>>have had such problems ourselves.
>>
>>In particular, we have tried both an Alpha S425S (Adaptec 1540/42 series
>>compatible SCSI controller) and, more recently, a genuine Adaptec 1542c.
>>The latter board is generally described as "sensitive" or "picky", and
>>there are those who suggest it works better with active terminators in
>>place of passive. Electrically, this does not make much sense. Either
>>will provide an equivalent impedance match, which is what is needed, so
>>any differences can only be due to component quality and tolerances affecting
>>the exact impedance match provided. This is a factor affecting both kinds.
>
>Well, the SCSI bus is a combination of controller, disk, cables and
>terminators all of which have to work in unison to operate properly.
>I've seen cases where cheap cables are at fault. A little crosstalk
>between signals, a little noise, a little impedance mismatch and your
>data is toast. Also timing issues and signal jitter are never quite as
>dependable as "Standards" make them out to be, there's plenty of room
>for a device to meet the spec, but be incompatible with other devices.
>
>
>Additionally, IMHO PC scsi cards are inferior in performace and reliabilty
>to those in workstations (DEC,NeXT,Sun etc...). In any case, someone with
>a commerical SCSI Bus Analyzer could probably get to the bottom of this
>problem quite quickly.
>
>
>>If it were, why would DOS/Windows work reasonably reliably using exactly
>>the same drivers, cables etc.? It has to be a software problem, but one which
>>relates to the hardware-software interface and, in particular, interrupt
>>handling in an under-specified environment. We elaborate the argument below.
>>We think our evidence is persuasive even though not conclusive.
>>
>
>Dos is a simple (okay stupid) operating system running a 486 most of the
>time in 16 bit mode. NeXT is running 32 bits. There are all
>sorts flaws that have yet to be discovered. Microsoft is proably more
>aware of these bugs and possible workarounds than NeXT could be.
>The it works for DOS/doesnt work in NEXT so it must be NEXT's fault
>isn't always valid. You can't blame or forgive NEXT until you actually
>get to the root of your problem.
>
>
>
>
>>Ok, for information, this is our current configuration:
>>* Dell 466/ME (66-MHz internal/33MHz external i486 chip with Math coprocessor),
>> 16 MB RAM, on-board floppy controller, PS/2 compatible mouse port,
>> on-board IDE disk controller with 1GB Micropolis drive,
>> & local bus VGA graphics with 1MB video RAM (but *disabled* because of
>> next item)
>>* ATI EISA bus Graphics Pro Ultra video card with 2MB Video RAM
>>* Nanao 530i.w Flexscan 17" monitor
>>* Adaptec 1542c SCSI controller with the on-board floppy controller disabled
>> and all other options as per list in NeXTAnswers
>>* Ariel DSP56 Signal Processing Card
>>* Mouse Systems Corporation PC Mouse III PS/2 & Microsoft compatible mouse
>>* 3.5" floppy
>>* NeXT CD-ROM Drive (Sony CDU 541)
>>--------
>
>okay, a resonable (and familiar) configuration. You might want to tell us
>about your bios and any bios shadowing options. I'm rusty on mice, I
>assume the Microsoft mouse is not a BUS mouse. Personally, I'd take out
>the ariel card and anything not required for a minimal system until the you
>make it a few steps farther. Who made your SCSI cables and how long are
>they.
>
>>The system runs DOS 6 and Windows 3.1 just fine. Under DOS/Windows we add a
>
>I think this is irrelevant.
>
>>Pinnacle Micro PMO-650 removable erasable optical drive that also works just
>>fine. If we leave it attached, when trying to install NeXTSTEP, it is
>>recognised and causes no problems (but we actually take it out now to keep
>>possibilities restricted).
>
>That makes sense.
>
>>
>>When we try to install NeXTSTEP, behaviour is inconsistent (an important
>>clue in our opinion). A typical sequence goes normally until it gets to:
>>
>> root on sd0
>> rootdev 600, howto 0
>>
>>and starts to read the CD-ROM. Usually it then gets one or more:
>>
>> intr: dropped IRQ 7
>>
>
>I get this alot too. I don't know if its a result of probing around
>looking for hardware or something misprogrammed. Doesn't bother
>my system, but I admit to not being too keen on seeing it.
>
>>lines, then says:
>>
>> AHA interrupt: bad status ff
>> sd0: INVALID STATUS (internal error): FATAL ERROR
>> target: 0 lun: 0 op:Read block:<some #> blockCount:<some #>
>>
>>and may "panic" or, if it got far enough, it may produce:
>>
>> Load of /etc/mach_init, errno 5, trying /etc/init
>> Load of /etc/init failed, errno 5
>>
>>It also sometimes fails to get to reading the CD-ROM because it "can't find
>>the CD-ROM".
>>
>>Looks like SCSI driving problems, right??? ;-) Well, not exactly, but
>>probably in part--in the sense that timing is involved, and timing on the
>
>I wouldn't say "driving". Any component in the SCSI could be at fault.
>IMHO I'd make sure I had nice short high quality cable (My axe to grind,
>I've been burned several times on cheap cables). Can you slow the system
>down? Or install it on another system and move the disk over to this one?
>
>[Rest of speculation deleted].
>
>>left to the software designer (see neighbouring paras.). The PC architecture
>>does not help.
>>
>
>Damn straight.
>
>>Spurious interrupts are
>>possible, simply because of the noise on the PC bus, for example.
>>*Misidentification* is possible if the timing is not exactly right when the
>>processor responds to the interrupt from the interrupt controller, and picks
>>up the 4 bit ID code when it is not stable. Given high speeds and clock
>>doublers, such mistiming is not as unlikely as you might think, and is most
>>likely to occur when the interrupt controller is being bombarded with many
>>....
>
>You have my agreement, the interrupt design for PC's is and always has
>been entirely inadequate.
>
>>If a *spurious interrupt* occurs due to noise, for a device that has no
>>handler, or is not in use, the interrupt may safely be dismissed ("dropped").
>>If a spurious interrupt occurs for a device that *is* in use, then again,
>>problems and errors may occur, since the processor will try to service the
>>device at what may be an inappropriate time. The solution then is to check the
>>device status before servicing it. These are all standard precautions in
>>managing interrupts in less than perfect hardware (e.g white as
>>opposed to black!! :-))
>
>True, but I suspect the environment the system is running under, booted off
>of the Next floppy is quite restricted in memory and therefore flexibility
>to deal with these problems.
>
>>
>>You will remember the failure to boot is usually preceded by a dropped IRQ 7.
>>IRQ 7 is assigned to the LPT1 on the Dell system. It shouldn't be causing
>>interrupts as it is output only, and nothing is connected to it. Now
>>"eisacfg" is used to set up many system parameters including the EISA
>>allotment and board attributes, mother board stuff and so on. WE TURNED
>>OFF the LPT1 assignment, and also tried setting it to the alternate (which
>>changes the IRQ ID to IRQ 5). BUT THE IRQ 7 MESSAGE JUST BEFORE FAILURE
>>PERSISTED!!!
>
>Again, this may be the result of some bus probing during booting.
>
>
>>
>>TENTATIVE DIAGNOSIS
>>We believe there is a timing or noise problem that causes an IRQ 7 to replace
>
>No Flames intented but as I said, my system survives the IRQ 7. Perhaps
>this has nothing to do with your problem? I know its annoying as hell to
>not be able to configure your system. Given what you and I know about the
>(damn) PC architecture, it will take NeXT some time to master additional
>platforms. I'm sure they are aware of some or all of these issues and will
>climb the learning curve quickly. I'd love it if NS/FIP was a mindless
>install. It is not (yet), but it is still incredibly simple for the
>complexity of the operating system.
>
>Why don't you share a few more configuation details and perhaps
>with the help of others we can help you along.
>
>Oh yeah, I supposed to install NS/FIP on a system identical to yours
>next week :-(
>
>
>
>--
>Jerry S. Weiss
>j-weiss@nwu.edu
>Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
>%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
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Subject: Re: **LONG** NS/I bugs/problems (5.5 pages)
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From raf Sun Jul 25 21:00:45 1993
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Subject: NS/I - Audio drops out 50% of time
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Help!
On my NS/I box, I've just got the MediaVision ProAudio Spectrum 16 card,
and can only shuff it on DMA channel 7 (since SCSI and floppy use
5 and 6 respectively).
50% of the time on playback the machine goes quiet during disk access
and then resumes playback. This is quite obiously unacceptable, does
anybody know either - a software fix to this, or a way to change the
DMA channel around on the Adaptec 1542B card so that SCSI and floppy
are at a lower priority to the audio card. I presume DMA channels
do follow some kind of prioirty system, which is why MediaVision
suggest using the upper DMA channels for 16 bit sound, and the lower
ones for 8 bit sound.
Any clues anybody ? I also have this thing on IRQ 3, but that shouldn't
make any difference I presume.
Many thanks,
BrIAN LeAKE.
Subject: NS/I - Audio drops out 50% of time
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Help!
On my NS/I box, I've just got the MediaVision ProAudio Spectrum 16 card,
and can only shuff it on DMA channel 7 (since SCSI and floppy use
5 and 6 respectively).
50% of the time on playback the machine goes quiet during disk access
and then resumes playback. This is quite obiously unacceptable, does
anybody know either - a software fix to this, or a way to change the
DMA channel around on the Adaptec 1542B card so that SCSI and floppy
are at a lower priority to the audio card. I presume DMA channels
do follow some kind of prioirty system, which is why MediaVision
suggest using the upper DMA channels for 16 bit sound, and the lower
ones for 8 bit sound.
Any clues anybody ? I also have this thing on IRQ 3, but that shouldn't
make any difference I presume.
Many thanks,
BrIAN LeAKE.
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Why 3+ days to transfer data from CD-ROM to HD.
Date: 26 Jul 1993 00:45:23 -0700
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
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I have a habit of transferring all data from a CD-ROM to the
hard disk and then review and delete from there. I didn't use
to have problems until I did the following:
1) Change the NBUF
2) Remove the 2 gig HD to an external drive
3) Upgrade the RAM to 20 meg
No a days, depending on the CD-ROM, it takes almost two
days to read the data and then another 1.5 days to copy
it over to the hard drive. Another thing that occurs is that
the process stops at every link even when "repeat" is checked.
I'm running NS3.0 and don't remember these problems with 2.1.
Getting a proper nbuf parameter would be nice since I think
my problems are rooted there. Anybody know?
maurices
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MaxAudio
Date: 26 Jul 1993 01:11:05 -0700
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In article <CAn1wJ.901@acsu.buffalo.edu> jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques) writes:
>Can someone please tell me what " Bill Southworths (?) MaxAudio" is all about?
>I heard some noise about it and I am curious to find out its capabilities.
>Is it better to invest in an SMPTE/Mid/audio interface for black hardware or, i\
>nstead to network a Mac with a NeXT and take get digital audio through (for ins\
>tance) an audiomedia card on the Mac?
>Cheers.
>
I've got a MaxAudio thingy on order and have checked it out thoroughly.
It seems to do everything, as it sure does everything I need and the price
is remarkable when compared to other products. Plus, it technically has
little to do with NeXT black hardware from a proprietary standpoint mainly
because it interfaces through the DSP port. Although I think the software
that controls it was written for NeXTSTEP writing for other platforms should
be a snap.
MaxAudio has no relation to Audiomedia because they are too different
animals--if I recall correctly. For example, if Audiomedia had a DSP port
for the Motorola 56001 than MaxAudio would be the A/D/A interface at
18-bits (switchable to 16) at 48 or 44.1khz (approx. $1200 elsewhere).
It would also act as an AES/EBU interface to maybe a dat machine (approx.
$600 elsewhere). Then you'd have a midi interface (Approx. $50) and also
a digital pre-amp (optional, have no idea about price elsewhere).
Anyway, you'd get all that for around $650, cheaper without the pre-amp.
And to top it all off, it is rack mountable and made with the ability
to be easily upgraded or expanded in the future.
I am quite excited about this product and Bill Southworth has been
around for a very long time. Remember the Jambox on the Mac?
I've gone into a bit of detail because I don't have Bill's number
handy. Maybe someone else can post it. This thing is supposed
to ship any day now. Does anyone have it yet? I'd like
to hear about it.
Bye,
maurices
maurices
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From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby)
Subject: FIP Gateway problems solved
Message-ID: <1993Jul26.091433.1150@ToTSySSoft.com>
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 09:14:33 GMT
Thanks for all the responses regarding our problems getting FIP to run on a
Gateway. (I think comp.sys.next should bill NeXT for the Great support
provided). :^D
Anyway, all in all we only had 2 problems. The first one wa solved by Mitch
Glass here is his solution:
>I had a similar problem with my Gateway, and it turned out
>that the internal cables to the serial connectors were swapped, so that
>what I thought was COMA/COM1 was really COMB/COM2. You might
>double-check both the cables and the Phoenix BIOS setup to
>make sure the COM ports are what you think they are.
Sure enough that was it. He posted a
"summary of my Gateway installation adventures"
a few weeks ago..
Mitch, I think you should repost it every couple of weeks for a while until
things settle down!!!
Any way between the time we got his first message which solved the problem, and
his summary, we got it up. We were able to setup the configuration. When we
got to the mouse, we knew we had a serial mouse, and that it was set to a
PS2mouse, but it was working, so we decided to not fool with it.
Well after the reboot no mouse and no way to set it. We tried editing the
config files by hand, but never got it to work.
That night we got home and found Mitch's summary which said that you must
select the serial mouse on setup... If only we had read it a few hours
earlier.
Well back to the net to ask advice.
Thanks to the countless people who sent the solution. (I guess they read the
manual. I myself am a highly principled person, and that's against my
principals. :^) [Just kidding]
The solution is to type at the boot prompt:
config=Default
Seriously we had read about it, and even tried it when we had the first
problem, but of course it didn't work then. So we forgot about it and never
came back to it.
Well it worked it puts you in a minimal mode that has mouse control no matter
what you are using. You log in as root, set your mouse up reboot, and its all
fixed.
Again, Thanks for all the help.
Now, any advice on those serial ports. Is there any way to use them safely?
Any way to get mail up between to machines at any speed without crashing??
Rick
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From: kbacon@austin.onu.edu (C0d3 M0n$t3r)
Subject: Re: 1542B & over 1 Gb capacity
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Message-ID: <1993Jul26.134732.191508@austin.onu.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 13:47:32 GMT
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Eric Dasque (edasque@cubx.com) wrote:
: Guys,
: we have tried to use an Adaptec 1542B (in a Dell 466ME) with disks over 1
: Gb and it is a "no-no". You'll never format those drive at maximum
: capacity. Instead you'll have a "small" 1023 Mb...
: The 1542C solves the problem
A call to Adaptec and a FREE BIOS upgrade for the 1542b solves the problem
just as well.
Kyle C. Bacon
kbacon@gauss.onu.edu
: Just thought, I'd tell you...
: Ed.
From: kimmel@nic.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel,A155 LGRC,(413) 545-1607,)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CD-ROM question
Date: 26 Jul 1993 14:44:08 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts/Amherst
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <230qjo$2vc@nic.umass.edu>
I have a question about CD-ROM drives for the "black" systems. I recently bought
a used '030 cube that came with the NS 3.0 CD but no CD-ROM drive. I'd like
to buy a CD-ROM drive for the system so I can use the NS CD (as well as others
I have). The question is, can I use just any SCSI CD-ROM drive with the cube,
or do I need to buy an "official" NeXT CD-ROM drive in order to get full
functionality (including the ability to boot from CD, etc.)?
-Matt
--
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From: yting@cs.umr.edu (Yu-Han Ting)
Subject: Will this HW configuration works for NS/i?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 14:28:45 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO
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Message-ID: <1993Jul26.142845.8857@umr.edu>
Hi, netters
I'm considering to get an edu. bundle of NS/i. After reading some
frustrating installation stories, I wonder if someone could tell me will
the following hardware configuration work for NS/i?
VESA local bus motherboard (the same one used by the old Gateway-66)
500MB IDE drive (not a SCSI one)
Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller
NEC 4FG monitor
ATI Graphics Ultra (not PRO)
NEC CDR-84J CDROM
Thanks in advance.
Yu-Han Ting
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Question concerning CD-ROM and audio
Date: 26 Jul 1993 15:01:18 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
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Message-ID: <230rju$4d3@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
To anyone:
I have hooked up a NEC CD-ROM drive to my cube. I am trying to use
the CDPlayer program to play cd-audio off the CD-ROM drive and it
is not working. Any suggestions?
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From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: FIP: Internal Fax Modem?
Date: 26 Jul 1993 16:12:09 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Message-ID: <230voq$1b6@news.mic.ucla.edu>
My local CompUSA store is selling 2400/9600 Fax cards for $29.95.
Because I now have an Intel GX/Pro, it would even fit into my
computer. All I'd like is to do outbound faxing from NS/FIP.
Is this possible?
/ivo welch
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From: jheiser@adobe.com (James Heiser)
Subject: Problem with Cube
Message-ID: <1993Jul26.152242.20201@adobe.com>
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 15:22:42 GMT
I just installed NEXTSTEP 3.1 from scratch on my Cube here at work and the ROM
Monitor is repeating the message "sc: parity error". When there are no
external SCSI devices hooked up this message will just repeate after the
systems tests pass and the "bsd" command is given. If there are other SCSI
devices hooked up it tries to boot off of them. Does any one know what this
means? What I should do? I don't think its 3.1's fault... HELP!
Thanks,
--
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Adobe Systems, Incorporated
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: 68040 board won't bootup
Message-ID: <CApJ58.3nB@infoserv.com>
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References: <1993Jul24.200412.4523@mdd.comm.mot.com>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1993 06:24:44 GMT
In article <1993Jul24.200412.4523@mdd.comm.mot.com> bublitz@mdd.comm.mot.com
(Martin Bublitz) writes:
#I've just acquired a 68040 board (thank you J.C. Lee!!) and I am
#running into difficulties getting it to start up. I've issued the
#"disk -b /dev/rsd0a" from root (I'm running 2.1) and I get the following
#error message after it attempts to boot from the SCSI disk:
#
#Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x4380000
#Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x100b758
#Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x1003f2a
#Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x10040ca
#
#I only get one of the above at a time, but after sending the "b" command,
#the last figure sometimes changes.
#
#Can anyone interpret this error for me since I can't find it anywhere
#in the documentation.
Sounds like a memory error.
You might try booting with onlyt one bank installed to find the bad SIMM.
You can boot an '040 with only 4 megs but it will swap like crazy.
THis is fine since all you want to do is isolate a problem
Kent
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From: volks@tempest.cis.uoguelph.CA (Lorraine Van Wingerden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Summary: Re: Pen-based computing for the NeXT ???
Date: 26 Jul 1993 13:12:28 -0400
Organization: The Ohio State University
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Message-ID: <9307261810.AA00275@tempest.cis.uoguelph.ca>
I recently posted a question to the net requesting information about
penbased computing. Here is my original question:
> Hello,
>
> Is anyone doing pen-based computing using NeXTstep
> (either for Intel, or on black hardware)?
> Is it possible?
>
> I am interested in finding any information on any
> hardware or software that supports pen-based computing
> of any kind in the NeXTstep environment. Are there
> any development supports?
>
> I noticed that there is a tablet installer (InstallTablet.app)
> on our system in /NextAdmin. Has anyone connected a tablet
> to a NeXT system?
>
> Thank you for any comments or information.
>
> Lorraine Van Wingerden
> (please send e-mail to volks@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca)
>
I have received a bit of information. Here is a very quick summary of
the information:
From: serge@talus.com (Serguei Bakhteiarov)
> Talus Corp. already did the driver for LightPen from
> Design Technology (Certainly for NS/FIP). It.... just
> works .... :-) as NeXT's officials like to tell....
>
He also told me that Design Technology has the rights for the
distribution, and they can be reached at:
11489 Woodside Avenue
Santee, CA 92071-4724
ph: (619) 448-2888
(619)488-3044 (fax)
e-mail: 73650.443@compuserve.com
so I contacted them and received some more information:
From: David Wineberg <73650.443@CompuServe.COM>
> We have a driver for our internal card for NeXT 486,
[some stuff deleted]
> We have
> several {_pen models available: anodized aluminum,
> stainless steel, plastic sheathed, in nosetip switch or
> sideswitch versions. Also a long range (10-12 feet) for
> handicapped applications.
> The internal card is already available for use in IBM PCs,
> compatibles. The external interface is already
> available for IBM PCs, compatibles, and PS/2.
> We're not ready with NeXT literature, but if you'd like, I
> could mail you hard copy of our literature for IBM
> systems. We hope to have the NeXT version available in a
> matter of weeks.
I hope to be receiving some more information from them.
Thank you to the people who responded.
Of course, more information is always welcome!
Lorraine Van Wingerden
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From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Kensington Trackballs
Date: 26 Jul 1993 18:38:26 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Message-ID: <2318b2$1ie@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Do Kensington trackballs work with NS/FIP?
/ivo welch
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From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: Will this HW configuration works for NS/i?
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Message-ID: <1993Jul26.180454.30217@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 18:04:54 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1993Jul26.142845.8857@umr.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <1993Jul26.142845.8857@umr.edu>, yting@cs.umr.edu (Yu-Han Ting) writes:
|> Hi, netters
|>
|> I'm considering to get an edu. bundle of NS/i. After reading some
|> frustrating installation stories, I wonder if someone could tell me will
|> the following hardware configuration work for NS/i?
|>
|> VESA local bus motherboard (the same one used by the old Gateway-66)
|> 500MB IDE drive (not a SCSI one)
|> Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller
|> NEC 4FG monitor
|> ATI Graphics Ultra (not PRO)
|> NEC CDR-84J CDROM
|>
|> Thanks in advance.
|>
|> Yu-Han Ting
I'd say you'll PROBABLY be ok. But remember, I'm not an expert. (but I play one on TV ;-) )He's the potential list of problems you MIGHT run into.
1) Keyboard/Mouse not working.
There have been some "fixes" for this posted here. You might want to print/save them before they get delete from you local news site.
(And if you use a serial mouse, make sure to choose the SERIAL driver when you install!)
2) BIOS, make sure to check out what they have for BIOS. Old BIOS can get you.
3) IDE Harddisk, might not cooperate. (Most unlikely -- but I have seen it)
Best of luck to you. You'll enjoy it once you get it up and running!
--
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From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM question
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 18:06:18 GMT
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References: <230qjo$2vc@nic.umass.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <230qjo$2vc@nic.umass.edu>, kimmel@nic.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel,A155 LGRC,(413) 545-1607,) writes:
|> I have a question about CD-ROM drives for the "black" systems. I recently bought
|> a used '030 cube that came with the NS 3.0 CD but no CD-ROM drive. I'd like
|> to buy a CD-ROM drive for the system so I can use the NS CD (as well as others
|> I have). The question is, can I use just any SCSI CD-ROM drive with the cube,
|> or do I need to buy an "official" NeXT CD-ROM drive in order to get full
|> functionality (including the ability to boot from CD, etc.)?
|>
|> -Matt
|> --
|> Matt Kimmel Networking Assistant Univ. of Mass.
|> E-mail: kimmel@nic.umass.edu Phone: (413) 545-1607
|> Fax: (413) 545-3203
|> ------------ Opinions! Hundreds of 'em! And all MINE!! -------------
|>
Nope, any SCSI CD-ROM drive should do. Especially check out the Multispin drives. They really cut down on the installation time.
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From: jheiser@adobe.com (James Heiser)
Subject: Re: Problem with Cube (SOLVED)
Message-ID: <1993Jul26.181814.24106@adobe.com>
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 18:18:14 GMT
In article <1993Jul26.152242.20201@adobe.com> jheiser@adobe.com (James Heiser)
writes:
> I just installed NEXTSTEP 3.1 from scratch on my Cube here at work and the
ROM
> Monitor is repeating the message "sc: parity error". When there are no
> external SCSI devices hooked up this message will just repeate after the
> systems tests pass and the "bsd" command is given. If there are other SCSI
> devices hooked up it tries to boot off of them. Does any one know what this
> means? What I should do? I don't think its 3.1's fault... HELP!
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> James B. Heiser
> Adobe Systems, Incorporated
>
> NeXTmail accepted
The mystery is now solved. Thanks to all who replied. The problem was a bad
cable on the inside. From what I understand the disk was replaced recently...
James Heiser
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why 3+ days to transfer data from CD-ROM to HD.
Message-ID: <1282@rtbrain.rightbrain.com>
Date: 26 Jul 93 19:08:32 GMT
References: <23022k$ec5@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
Sender: glenn@rightbrain.com
Maurice Shihadi writes
> 1) Change the NBUF
...
> No a days, depending on the CD-ROM, it takes almost two
> days to read the data and then another 1.5 days to copy
> it over to the hard drive.
> Getting a proper nbuf parameter would be nice since I think
> my problems are rooted there. Anybody know?
Just leave it alone. NeXTSTEP works just fine in its default
configuration. You mess with NBUF, observe ridiculous disk
copy times, suspect that messing with NBUF might be the problem,
but you miss the obvious solution: leave it alone and let it
use the default. End of problems.
--
Glenn Reid NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
RightBrain Software 415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
Palo Alto, California Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-ROM question
Date: 26 Jul 1993 21:27:51 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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kimmel@nic.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel,A155 LGRC,(413) 545-1607,) writes:
> I'd like to buy a CD-ROM drive for the system so I can use the
> NS CD (as well as others I have). The question is, can I use
> just any SCSI CD-ROM drive with the cube, or do I need to buy an
> "official" NeXT CD-ROM drive in order to get full functionality
> (including the ability to boot from CD, etc.)?
Pretty much any SCSI CD-ROM will do for regular file access (such as
standard CD-ROM discs). You may have problems trying to get CDPlayer.app to
work for music CD's with some CD-ROM drives, particularly older drives. It
won't work with the Apple CD150, for instance, but it will work with the
Apple CD300.
The CD300 is a multi-speed drive, and it can read standard CD-ROM discs (ie,
non-Music discs) at double the speed of older drives. You *may* experience
some trouble with multi-speed drives on the NeXT. I have (with a few
different multi-speed drives), but I've only seen those problems pop up when
I'm processing photo CD's. Perhaps the problem I've seen is limited to
photo CD's (and to only some of those).
--
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Monday, 26 Jul 1993 14:14:00 PST
From: <NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Message-ID: <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Choosing a 486DX2/66
I have recently (as of three months ago) decided to purchase a good
486DX2/66MHz machine. My work involves mostly heavy numerical stuff
and desktop publishing. For the last two years I have been NeXT
based, running primarily Mathematica and my own codes. NeXT's
decision to go 486 and pressure from my wife, who uses windows based
applications for her work made me decide to get a PC. The problem is
three months ago, I knew absolutely nothing about the subject: now I
know a little more, but still have more questions than answers.
Some of the decisions I have (rightly or wrongly) already made. They
are to go with a machine with a VESA local bus, and to have a 500+ MB
hard disk on a SCSI controller. If I am to run NS/FIP, it seems some
of my hardware choices are limited(?). Do I necessarily *have* to
have the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro card (isn't the Diamond Viper
better??)? and the ADAPTEC 1542B(C) SCSI controller?
Other questions that are holding me back are the choice of expansion
bus I have decided to go with a SCSI hard disk for both speed and
because eventually I would like to move into the >GB class. While
reading this net and the various publications, I have formed the
opinion that SCSI+ISA is faster than IDE. The question is, is
SCSI+EISA better still??, and as single machine user, do I need EISA
expansion slots at all?? If I have an EISA SCSI controller, will
NS/FIP work with that??
I have been looking a several vendors which make such machines. They
are Gateway 2000 (surprise surprise), Comtrade, DELL. Gateway looks
nice, and has had *much* coverage on the net, but as far as I can
tell, does not have a EISA-VLB option(?). Comtrade does, and recent
Computer Shopper review smiled quite well on them. Any experience
with any of these machines, or pointers to other machines which I
haven't yet considered, would be welcome.
To summarize, my requirements are:
24-32 MB RAM (expandable to 64MB)
256K Cache
>500 MB Hard disk (SCSI + ISA (EISA?))
VESA local bus video accelerator
CD-Rom dive
FAX-Modem
The requirement of being NeXTSTEP compatible is desirable, but I am
willing to forgo that one for speed (I can *always* learn another
operating system).
As I am sure I am not the only PC-ignorant person asking such
questions (indeed, I have seen most of them in one fashion of another
asked already and If I get enough response, I will post some sort of
summary after I have made a purchase decision.
Thanks in advance for any and all help and advice.
Nick Walker.
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center,
Stanford University,
California.
voice (415) 926-3677
email nick@slac.stanford.edu
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From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Subject: Successful Install on ProLinea 4/66
Message-ID: <1993Jul26.174126.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 22:41:26 GMT
For those curious:
I successfully installed NextStep 3.1 for Intel on a Compaq Prolinea 4/66 and
connected to an existing NetWare 3.11 network with one small catch:
When given the option to reserve a portion of the hard disk for DOS,
if a DOS partition was created, NS failed to initialize the hard drive.
The entire drive had to be NS.
The system had the following hardware:
Adaptec 1542 SCSI adaptor
Intel EtherExpress 16 net card
Default VGA
101 kybd
Maxtor 340MB IDE hard drive
NEC intersect CD-ROM
16 MB RAM
If anyone else has had this problem, and has found a solution, please email me
directly (sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu)
Scott
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From: jbowyer@cis.vutbr.cz (Bowyer Jeff)
Subject: International Software
Organization: Technical University of Brno, Czech Republic
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 07:21:33 GMT
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From: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Subject: Re: Looking for competent 486-NS vendors
Message-ID: <CAsH6C.BG@oceania.com>
Sender: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
References: <1993Jul23.215545.3544@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 20:34:55 GMT
Charles Robinson writes
> Seriously, its an idea you might try.
> Support your local vendors and they will support you.
> BTW The deal was "the machine supports NextStep or no sale."
Been there.
Done that.
Still waiting for our "local vendor" to take away
the hardware that is incompatible with NS (That
we didn't even order - local vendor ordered and
delivered the wrong stuff.) - "No Sale".
In talking with our "local vendors" (in the heart
of the Silicon Valley!), I have *not* gotten such a
positive experience. In fact, it was impossible to
make "the deal" because most vendors don't even know
what NeXTStep is.
Caveat Emptor ;-)
John
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From: newman@pokey.fnal.gov (Mark Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Date: 26 Jul 1993 22:24:48 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelator Lab
Sender: newman@pokey (Mark Newman)
Distribution: world
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References: <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
In article <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, <NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
|> I have been looking a several vendors which make such machines. They
|> are Gateway 2000 (surprise surprise), Comtrade, DELL. Gateway looks
|> nice, and has had *much* coverage on the net, but as far as I can
|> tell, does not have a EISA-VLB option(?).
As of sometime in the past two weeks, Gateway changed their 66E system to
have (at least some) VESA support. I'm sorry that I can't tell you more,
but that's all I know, as it was blurbed to my by the salesman there as I
ordered my 66E systems. If you get more info from them, please let us all
know about the changes...
Regards,
Mark Newman
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From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Connor 540MB Drive and NS Intel
Message-ID: <CAr1o6.23t@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 02:02:30 GMT
I'm having some trouble with a Conner 540MB (503MB formatted) IDE Drive.
It's the CP30544, it is 1" high and seems quite fast under DOS... but I can't
get it to work with NeXTSTEP.
The machine is an Intel GX/66 with it as the Master IDE drive, all the setting
are correct on the machine. We have installed NS on a whole bunch of GXs, but
we have always used MAXTOR drives this was the first Conner experiment... and
is failing.
NS install phase one just fine, did the fix for the DMA, now tried to boot off
of the drive and nothing.
It does the:
NeXT boot1 v.1.17
then seems to lock up, seems is the key word, it continues to boot at a snail's
pace (we are talking hours here) while loading the kernel each "+" takes about
15min. Then it can't find some table and finally boots in single user mode,
but this takes about 4 hours to get to that phase. The IDE light stays on the
whole time.
I have now removed all boards and nothing has changed.
The Conner has a bunch of jumpers, I assume that one (or more) is incorrectly
set.
If anyone has this drive working, please send me the jumper setting.
Thanks
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed technologies, inc.
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Monday, 26 Jul 1993 16:08:43 PST
From: <NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Message-ID: <93207.160844NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Choosing a 486DX2/66
I have recently (as of three months ago) decided to purchase a good
486DX2/66MHz machine. My work involves mostly heavy numerical stuff
and desktop publishing. For the last two years I have been NeXT
based, running primarily Mathematica and my own codes. NeXT's
decision to go 486 and pressure from my wife, who uses windows based
applications for her work made me decide to get a PC. The problem is
three months ago, I knew absolutely nothing about the subject: now I
know a little more, but still have more questions than answers.
Some of the decisions I have (rightly or wrongly) already made. They
are to go with a machine with a VESA local bus, and to have a 500+ MB
hard disk on a SCSI controller. If I am to run NS/FIP, it seems some
of my hardware choices are limited(?). Do I necessarily *have* to
have the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro card (isn't the Diamond Viper
better??)? and the ADAPTEC 1542B(C) SCSI controller?
Other questions that are holding me back are the choice of expansion
bus I have decided to go with a SCSI hard disk for both speed and
because eventually I would like to move into the >GB class. While
reading this net and the various publications, I have formed the
opinion that SCSI+ISA is faster than IDE. The question is, is
SCSI+EISA better still??, and as single machine user, do I need EISA
expansion slots at all?? If I have an EISA SCSI controller, will
NS/FIP work with that??
I have been looking a several vendors which make such machines. They
are Gateway 2000 (surprise surprise), Comtrade, DELL. Gateway looks
nice, and has had *much* coverage on the net, but as far as I can
tell, does not have a EISA-VLB option(?). Comtrade does, and recent
Computer Shopper review smiled quite well on them. Any experience
with any of these machines, or pointers to other machines which I
haven't yet considered, would be welcome.
To summarize, my requirements are:
24-32 MB RAM (expandable to 64MB)
256K Cache
>500 MB Hard disk (SCSI + ISA (EISA?))
VESA local bus video accelerator
CD-Rom dive
FAX-Modem
The requirement of being NeXTSTEP compatible is desirable, but I am
willing to forgo that one for speed (I can *always* learn another
operating system).
As I am sure I am not the only PC-ignorant person asking such
questions (indeed, I have seen most of them in one fashion of another
asked already and If I get enough response, I will post some sort of
summary after I have made a purchase decision.
Thanks in advance for any and all help and advice.
Nick Walker.
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center,
Stanford University,
California.
voice (415) 926-3677
email nick@slac.stanford.edu
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From: skrbec@rtsg.mot.com (Brad Skrbec)
Subject: lowcost PC/NeXT printer setup
Message-ID: <skrbec.743717451@bone15>
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Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 20:10:51 GMT
I have a friend who has a color NeXTstation, without a printer. She's
looking for a way to temporarily use a lowcost (dotmatrix) printer that
she can swap between the NeXT and some PC's.
Are there any good solutions to this problem out there?
Thanks in advance,
Brad
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From: traupman-jonathan@yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Two questions on PC hardware for NS/i
Date: 26 Jul 1993 20:01:08 -0400
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <231r84INNsvu@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>
Keywords: hardware, PC, video, disk, SCSI
Hello,
I have two questions on PC hardware for NeXtstep:
1. Does anyone know anything about the Buslogic 747S EISA SCSI card. The
compatibility guide says that it works; NeXTanswers describes a similar
board, the BT-742A card, but says that it is officially unsupported; the
guy I talked to at NeXT had know idea, and someone on the net said that it
wouldn't work. I really need to straighten this out, because I want EISA
SCSI, the DPT isn't compatible with my CDROM, and I don't want to wait
until Nov for 3.2.
2. Does anyone have data on raw performance of PC video cards--not
meaningless winmark stuff, but figures more pertinent to NS. I ask this
because the guy I talked to at NeXT said that they're going to support the
Orchid 3MB P9000 card real soon now, and if the speed is ok, it should be
able to do 1280x1024. However, I saw figures in Computer Shopper in July,
that said the P9000 boards only did about 12000 MB/sec bitblts, while the
ATI did 27000 MB/sec. If these one can guage NS video performance by these
figures, it looks like the ATI will smoke the P9000s in spite of a lower
winmark rating. 1280x1024 would by great, but not if the speed is unbearable.
Thanks,
Jon
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From: hatfield@raven.bdc.ubc.ca (Todd Hatfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: fax modem question
Date: 25 Jul 1993 19:34:51 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <22un8rINN3vo@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
There are some remarkably inexpensive fax modems (14.4k) out there for PCs
(e.g. U.S. Robotics, SupraFax). Can these be a) plugged straight into a
slab, and b) use the NextStep 3.0 fax software?
Thanks very much for a reply (here, or to e-mail).
Todd Hatfield
hatfield@bcu.ubc.ca
From: hatfield@raven.bdc.ubc.ca (Todd Hatfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: RAM vendors?
Date: 25 Jul 1993 19:40:33 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <22unjhINN402@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
I am looking to buy 2 X 4 MB, or 2 X 8 MB RAM chips for a turbo slab. Does
anyone out there have a mail order vendor to recommend, or know what is a
reasonable price for these little do-hickeys?
If there is a FAQ for this (likely) oft-asked question, please tell me
where.
Many thanks!
reply here or to email
Todd Hatfield
hatfield@bcu.ubc.ca
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From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Adaptec 1540/42 with Dell: **SUMMARY**
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Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 20:50:50 GMT
Many thanks to those who responded to my query about problems with an
Adaptec 1540/42 in a Dell 466/ME system. The consensus of the replies
was "use better terminators", and a suggestion that removing the ATI
EISA GRAPHICS ULTRA PRO card and using an older video card had helped
another installation. One responder obtained active terminators from
CS Electronics (714-259-9100) for $35 each. Another said only "force
perfect" terminators were really effective. One responder said he got
a similar set-up to work fine, with Adaptec as set up by a vendor for Windows.
The theories about termination were supported by a batch of several earlier
postings which one responder forwarded, where termination was variously
described as 110% critical, etc. Another response said changing cables solved
his problem. Yet another gave detailed information about how to construct a
properly made SCSI cable from scratch, recommended cable with twisted pairs
(ground twisted around signal) rather than straight ribbon, and said to check
that terminator power (+5V, pin 26) was actually connected!! (and remember the
signal wires are numbered according to the layout in a ribbon cable, so
watch what numbers the pins get), and that pin 25 should be disconnected.
One responder pointed out that many error messages that get generated were
bogus, and should be treated with skepticism and also provided the whereabouts
of the SCSI FAQ:
>The SCSI FAQ gets posted periodically to comp.periphs.scsi,
>comp.answers, and news.answers.
Since my original posting, I have sent out a rather long posting of my
own, giving more detail of my configuration, and what else we have found out.
I am not convinced the SCSI is the prime culprit at all. I had played
with different cables and terminators already. If one reasonably kosher
cable/terminator worked and another didn't, I would NOT be very happy anyway
because I would have merely gone from marginally non-working to marginally
working, and would not have a lot of confidence (vis a vis temperature
changes, modifications to my configuration etc.). In any case, how
could my system pick up a spurious IRQ 7 due to a noisy SCSI
bus, when the SCSI controller uses IRQ 11, unless there's something going
wrong with timing nearer the CPU. Modern logic is very good, but the PC
hardware design is awful, from point of view of reliable timing. You
wouldn't have to do very much to screw up the IRQ ID read from the
interrupt controller, on the white hardware. We have lab reports showing
a similar problem on other systems (NOT NeXT). Sensible systems
programmers build firewalls into their low-level interrupt handlers to
give protection against such hardware glitches. I suspect Microsoft
did so (otherwise how could they have reliable DOS & Windows). I suspect
NeXT programmers have worked on much better designed hardware, and haven't
needed the precautions before, so they didn't take them.
Blake Stone (Article 5109) replied to my long posting (Thanks, Blake!
BTW I did return the Adaptec board you so kindly lent me--yesterday, you were
out; & I *didn't* say the Alpha board was on NeXT's compatibility list :-) ).
Blake thinks the problems are due to the Rev. c board, not cabling or
termination, on the grounds that c boards don't work with identical setups
to b boards. He seems to agree that the problem may lie in the interaction
between NeXTSTEP and the complete hardware (though he describes it as "they ask
more of the hardware"). He had an interesting suggestion in this respect.
If it works with DOS/Windows and not with NeXTSTEP, try it with NT. If
it works, the problem must have been NeXTSTEP, otherwise the problem is
a newer OS pushing the hardware. This was not quite how he put it, but gets
the essence.
Thanks again for all the input, people. Those who contributed, directly, or
indirectly were:
jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope)|mitch@ella.mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
harit@kripalu.com (Michael Allen Latta)|df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
andrew@wire.gatech.edu (andrew abernathy)|chow@TC.Cornell.EDU(Christopher Chow)
urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)|watters@cranel.com (David Watters)
mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)|jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
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From: ta-sav2@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cheap CD ROM Drive
Date: 27 Jul 1993 02:18:06 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <23238u$4n6@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <230qjo$2vc@nic.umass.edu> <231i8n$q3s@usenet.rpi.edu>
Tiger Software, a Mac mail order place is selling a NEC CDR-25 drive
for $199.00. I assume from the price it's not a double-speed drive.
That's pretty cheap. The next best price I've found is $399.00 for the
Apple CD 300 drive, which is a double-speed drive.
My question is, for those of us who aren't in to the current "Multishmedia"
trend, is it worth the extra $200.00 for the double speed?
Have people found they use their CD Roms for a lot more than NS installations?
I'd be curious to know, and I'd post a summary.
Thanks
Sean Varah
P.S. Tiger Software's number is 1-800-666-2562
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"Too much reverb!"
Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, ta-sav2@cunixa.columbia.edu
******************************************************************************
From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Two questions on PC hardware for NS/i
Date: 27 Jul 1993 03:24:52 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <232764$u8@nic.umass.edu>
References: <231r84INNsvu@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>
Jonathan Traupman (traupman-jonathan@yale.edu) wrote:
: 1. Does anyone know anything about the Buslogic 747S EISA SCSI card. The
The 747S does work...quite well actually. I use it in my NS/fip machines.
It is setup using the adaptec 1542 driver in the configure.app though, so I
don't know if speed is any better.
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: B/w Monitors (Bell Atlantic)
Message-ID: <1993Jul27.032612.24473@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Jul25.161917.21925@crash>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 03:26:12 GMT
In article <1993Jul25.161917.21925@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
writes:
> We too are interested in others' experiences in rectifying this situation.
> I am esp. interested in hearing of anyone's experience dealing with
> Bell Atlantic for the repair of mono MegaPixels. I assume that's who we
> have to call, right?
Here is some info I'm putting into the FAQ right now...
Repair costs for NeXT monitors vary according to the type of monitor.
The NeXT monochrome monitors and the NeXT color monitors made by FIMI are
repaired by Bell inhouse. There is a flat charge of $400 for monitor repair
(BW or color) under the arrangement where you send them your monitor (you pay
shipping out), they fix it and ship it back (they pay return shipping).
There is an alternative arrangment where they will simply send you a monitor
immediately and you send them your old one within 10 days (i.e., a swap).
That costs in the neighborhood of $600.
The NeXT color monitors made by Hitachi and Sony have to be sent by Bell to
outside factories to be fixed. Their repair cost is much higher: $950.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT??
Keywords: Fax modem ZyXEL
Message-ID: <69687@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 27 Jul 93 02:51:51 GMT
References: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu>
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Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
In article <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu> doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu writes:
>
> Could someone who has successfully used a ZyXEL high-speed modem on a NeXT
> please contact me? The literature claims it will work, but I am unable to:
>
> 1) Dial out via tip or kermit
> 2) Log in once I dial up the modem from outside
> 3) Send a fax out via the built-in OS 3.0 fax software
> 4) Receive a fax
>
> In other words, I cant do anything with the thing! ZyXEL has not been able to
> give my any help at all since they have no NeXTs there. They claim it works
> fine when run via the software from Black and White -- but cant help me get it
> working for simple things like using the modem as a regular dial-in dial-out
> modem, which does not involve its fax capabilities at all.
>
> Here is some further information:
>
> The modem is a ZyXEL U-1496E.
>
> I have a "68040 Modem Cable" from NextConnection, which is wired correctly for
> hardware flow control (I checked).
>
> I have tried many many different settings for the getty process -- using
> /dev/ttyda and /dev/ttydfa, using std.2400, std.19200, D19200, etc., etc.
>
> When I attempt to connect to the modem via tip or kermit, the process hangs as
> soon as it (supposedly) connects to the modem, and I get no response from the
> modem, and I have to reboot the machine to kill the tip or kermit process!
>
> If anyone has any suggestions, I would be very grateful!
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Douglas Scott (805)893-8352
> Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
> University of California, Santa Barbara
> Internet: (NeXTMail ok) <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
it works fine for me.
here is my /etc/tty entry:
ttydfa "/usr/etc/getty D38400" vt100 off
here is my .kermrc
set line /dev/cufa
set speed 38400
set modem hayes
set file names literal
set file type binary
set file display fullscreen
set receive packet-length 740
set window-size 8
set block-check 3
set parity none
set flow none
set terminal bytesize 8
set terminal character-set ascii ascii
for fax stuff, make sure you run the NXFaxInstaller program.
B&W software will answer questions and help you with that.
there is also some useful help in the NXFax on line help and
NeXT sysadmin docs.
first see if you can get to the modem to speak hayes commands to it.
%kermit
>connect
at
OK
at&v -- show settings
ati0 -- show ROM version, should 6.02 at least
at&f -- sets modem back to factory default settings DO THIS
atz -- resets
at$ -- help
then try atdt to somewhere
if that works, try dial in and add fax last
good luck
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the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT??
Message-ID: <69688@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 27 Jul 93 03:11:00 GMT
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In article <88587@ut-emx.uucp> mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:
> Part of your problem is that you need to be using the /dev/cua or dev/cufa
> devices instead of the tty devices. Normally the tty devices are reserved
> for directly connected terminals. There is no need to change the ttys
> file. All I did was add an entry in the /etc/remote file:
> fa38400|cufa38400|Dial-out on cufa at 38400 baud:\
> :dv=/dev/cufa:br#38400:tc=BASIC:
that's useful for dialing out if you resort to tip,
but the /etc/ttys file determines which ports allow dial in access.
I think it is necessary to at least check this file if you
wish to allow data calls in, though I think the NXFax installation
may take care of it for you.
there are comments in the top of the file and the zs man page is helpful.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: RAM vendors?
Message-ID: <1993Jul27.033037.24630@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <22unjhINN402@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 03:30:37 GMT
In article <22unjhINN402@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> hatfield@raven.bdc.ubc.ca (Todd
Hatfield) writes:
> I am looking to buy 2 X 4 MB, or 2 X 8 MB RAM chips for a turbo slab. Does
> anyone out there have a mail order vendor to recommend, or know what is a
> reasonable price for these little do-hickeys?
>
> If there is a FAQ for this (likely) oft-asked question, please tell me
> where.
Here is the appropriate FAQ, which will be posted any day now...
FAQ-NeXT-Hardware-RAM
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: R1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin
"Announcing NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo"
NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz),
NeXTcube (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 16
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 30-pin low profile
SIMM access rating: 100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB
The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in
the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the
small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install
the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide
the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously.
Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT machines,
but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040 boards with
ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity memory to detect
parity errors.
[One user adds the following unverified claims:]
It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not
boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb
parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an
exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from Next.
You can pay $30, or you may be able to squawk and get one for free. I
have found Next to be pretty responsive, once I find the right person.
[Jimmie Quan, NeXT Hardware Service, adds:]
The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this series
of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the second paragraph.
NeXTdimension boards (i860):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4, 8 MB (256Kx32, 1Mx32, 2Mx32)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB (32 MB official NeXT)
NeXT didn't officially bless the use of 8 MB SIMMs, but they seem to
fit and work.
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
Faster SIMMS (80 ns) don't make the memory system work any
faster than the 100 ns units.
NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 4
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 128 MB
For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns will
be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to 100 ns.
NeXT manufacturing introduced the new 25 MHz NeXTstation CPU board
into production in late June '92. To verify which SIMM type your machine
uses, check the system's memory configuration. You can do this by using
the ROM monitor s print memory configuration command m. Start with
your machine powered down. Press the Power key to power on. As soon as the
message Testing system... disappears, press
command-command-tilde (~ on the numeric keyboard). Under these
circumstances, this will access the ROM monitor. In the ROM monitor,
type m and press return. Turbo-designed boards including new 25 MHz
NeXTstations and all Turbo systems will return messages reporting
the memory configuration contained in four sockets (sockets 0 -3); old
25 MHz boards will return messages for more than four sockets (usually
8). You can tell a Turbo-designed board, and the accompanying 72 pin, 70
nanosecond SIMMs, by the fact it only reports information for only four
sockets.
[John Graves, Hardware Engineering, NeXT Computer, Inc. adds]
The memory system has programmable memory timing such that the number
of processor clocks needed to access a given amount of data can be
tailored to the speed of the memory installed. 70 ns memory is just
enough faster than 80 ns memory to allow the cpu to access the data with
fewer clock cycles. This improves memory system performance.
"70 ns" memory is faster than "80 ns" memory in many parameters other
than just RAS access time. The faster CAS access time in particular
allows the memory system to respond quicker to burst (16 bytes) bus
transfers.
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: R2. What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
The tool came with 68040 upgrade kits for NeXTcubes.
It really makes removing SIMMs easy. It looks like a dental tool: about
six inches long with a 1/2" long head offset at 90 degrees. To remove
SIMMs, you slip the head into the hole on one side of the SIMM, rest the
head on the SIMM socket next to the SIMM you are pulling, and pivot the
tool back, using the simple fulcrum to gently pry the SIMM up about 1/8"
from the socket on that side. Repeat on the other side, and the SIMM can be
then removed by hand.
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: R3. Where can I purchase memory for a NeXT?
This list contains only a few vendors; prices listed may change and are
provided as examples only.
There is significant day-to-day fluctuation in prices, especially
since the destruction of a factory in Japan in July that manufactured
resin used in chips. Prices are currently very high.
First Tech Stratum Technologies
Austin, TX
800-533-1744
512-258-3570
512-258-3689 (fax)
Contact: Gayla
[Prices current as of 11-Jun-93] [A sad reminder of how cheap prices were
before the current prices]
30 Pin SIMMs
1x8-70ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 30
4x8-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 127
1x9-80ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 37.50
4x9-80ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 147
72 Pin SIMMs
1x32-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 129
2x32-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 260
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 555
1x36-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 147.50
2x36-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 285
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 640
Lifetime Warranty.
Marco International
800-621-4668 (Within US/Canada)
303-449-9191
Contact: Lisa
800 447 8448 (CT Office)
[Prices current as of 6-May-93]
30 Pin SIMMs
1x8-80ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 30
4x8-80ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 125
72 Pin SIMMs
1x32-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 135
2x32-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 255
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 540
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 580
-70ns 32 Mb SIMM $2300 (no parity)
Parity available for some sizes.
Lifetime Warranty, toll-free support, 24hr RMA.
"NeXT certified".
Chip Merchant
9541 Ridgehaven Court
San Diego, CA 92123
(800) 426-6375
South Coast Electronics
Tustin, CA
(800) 289-8801
714-669-9503
Contact: Jim
Impediment
(617) 837-8877
Contact: Alex
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From: csilva@cs.sunysb.edu (Claudio Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Orchid Prodesigner IIs
Date: 27 Jul 1993 03:10:19 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2326ar$75g@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
References: <22mbub$66v@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Jim Blum (jmb@merit.edu) wrote:
: Will this card work with the NEXTSTEP ET4000 video driver?
No, I tryed a Prodesigner IIs on NSI 3.1 and unless I am
doing something really wrong it only works at 640x480(Standard VGA).
Does anybody know how to get it to work at 1024x768 or it just does not work
at all ? Is it a bug or should I get another motherboard that
supports VLB cards ?
Thanks a lot,
Claudio. (csilva@cs.sunysb.edu)
From: michaell@swdev.research.otc.com.au ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WHAT TO ASK WHEN LOOKING AT NOTEBOOKS ??
Date: 27 Jul 1993 00:41:30 GMT
Organization: Technical Development Group, Telstra International
Sender: michaell@swdev.research.otc.com.au (Michael Lofquist)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <231tjq$7fn@turin.research.otc.com.au>
Hi,
I am just wondering what to look for when
I try and decide what Notebook to buy to run NS/I.
I guess I can follow the NeXT HW Guide, which will
give a few choices ( Compaq LTE4, NEC VERSA, Toshiba ).
But what if I would like run it another machine.
I understand that the IBM Thinkpad is not supported
because it utiilises MCA (?) And some 486 processors are
not supported (?)
But what questions should I ask about these machines vendors
to ensure that I have chance of running NS/I on them.
- what architecture is used in Notebooks
and which are supported in the current NS/I ??
- what about graphic cards on Notebooks ?
I find it a bit confusing !!
Sorry, I do not know anything about PC architecture; my
background are workstations ( and NeXT 68040 versions ).
Help would be appreciated before I go out and spend money
on something that is useless for NS/I.
Michael
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: tape backup devices
Date: 25 Jul 1993 11:44:28 -0000
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <22trms$av@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <CALByy.BnE@csn.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Keywords: tape NeXT compatibility
bff@next.dev.pvh.org (Brendan F. Forsyth) writes:
>Are there any supported tape backup stategies for the Intel Platform?
I do my backups with a Sankyo CP525 SCSI-QIC streamer. This was a
rather inexpensive solution compared to DAT drives, and I am pleased
with it.
Regards,
Markus.
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/etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Cray computers? Where? When? How?
From: delozier@mcs.kent.edu (Greg Delozier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Spurious IRQ-7's (was: Re: Adaptec 1540/42 with Dell: **SUMMARY**)
Date: 27 Jul 1993 06:05:07 GMT
Organization: Kent State University
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <232gij$ghg@usenet.mcs.kent.edu>
References: <CAosKr.9HI@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes:
[ advice about SCSI terminators deleted ]
>In any case, how
>could my system pick up a spurious IRQ 7 due to a noisy SCSI
>bus, when the SCSI controller uses IRQ 11, unless there's something going
>wrong with timing nearer the CPU. Modern logic is very good, but the PC
>hardware design is awful, from point of view of reliable timing. You
>wouldn't have to do very much to screw up the IRQ ID read from the
>interrupt controller, on the white hardware.
This is a question we're seeking the answers too, as well, since this IRQ
business (Spurious interrupts reported during the install process, then
install aborts) has us stopped in our tracks during installation.
Do I understand this correctly, that a SCSI controller on IRQ11 is generating
these IRQ7 events? That doesn't seem likely to me, but I'd be willing to try
just about anything. We've got an Adaptec 1540B, Dell 466M, and a 450 meg IDE
drive.
Any suggestions or ideas about this IRQ7 stuff?
Thanks very much,
-greg
From: jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jim Blevins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Incorrect Block Count Error
Date: 27 Jul 93 11:51:01
Organization: University of Western Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <JBLEVINS.93Jul27115101@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
Shortly after installing 3.1 Extended on a non-turbo slab (though the
timing may be coincidental), I have begun encoutering problems with
system startup and shutdown. Roughly every second time I attempt to
power down via the login window option, the system hangs indefinitely
with a blank screen until I hit the power button on the keyboard. The
next time I start up, there is considerable (3-5 min) thrashing during
the "Checking Disks" routine, at the end of which I get the following
error message (along with a couple of others that I did not manage to
record):
/dev/rsd0a: Incorrect Block Count
I = 231663 (1 should be 0)
(CORRECTED)
...
(The slab has a 100MB internal with 3.0 which is used as a backup, the
boot disk is a 1GB external Seagate Imprimis daisy-chained with a NeXT
CD-ROM.)
I would greatly appreciate any diagnosis of this problem and/or
suggestions for dealing with it.
Thanks,
/jim
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Connor 540MB Drive and NS Intel
Message-ID: <bchin.743743787@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <CAr1o6.23t@ripple.uunet>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 03:29:47 GMT
df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes:
>I'm having some trouble with a Conner 540MB (503MB formatted) IDE Drive.
>It's the CP30544, it is 1" high and seems quite fast under DOS... but I can't
>get it to work with NeXTSTEP.
>The machine is an Intel GX/66 with it as the Master IDE drive, all the setting
>are correct on the machine. We have installed NS on a whole bunch of GXs, but
>we have always used MAXTOR drives this was the first Conner experiment... and
>is failing.
At ANDI, we've experienced similar problems. After talking to Conner
and Intel tech support, it seems that the rev of the Phoenix BIOS the
Intel Pro/GX has doesn't like the Conner. One possible symptom is that
while things *seem* to be fine under DOS, in reality, thing get corrupted.
Try a Quantum drive or go back to Maxtor instead.
Isn't IDE fun? It's 1993 and we still have to look up heads/cylinders/etc.
Good luck!
--
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VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group
Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
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From: edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque)
Subject: 1542B,C on EISA DELL system and a 3.6 Gb Micropolis HD
Message-ID: <1993Jul27.071835.16327@cubx.com>
Sender: news@cubx.com
Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 07:18:35 GMT
Subject says it all (almost). NeXTSTEP doesn't seem to find any drive when
it look for drives to install NS/FIP on. At the Adaptec BIOS boot, it
looks fine. At the NS boot, there is a 3.6 Gb SCSI drive but then...it
can't find any !?!
Pointers ?
Ed.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: raul@pencom.com (Raul Alvarez)
Subject: ESDI Driver for NS/FIP?
Message-ID: <1993Jul27.124410.1577@pencom.com>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (News system)
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 12:44:10 GMT
The title says is all:
Does anyone know if there is an ESDI driver available for NS/FIP?
Thanks!
--
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Remember: If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.
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From: harryt@world.std.com (Harry D Tirrell)
Subject: Overrun errors
Message-ID: <CAtw5K.5yG@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 14:56:08 GMT
hope someone out there can help. When I signed on to my system
this morning the console log was filled with the following message:
Jul 27 09:23:11 ruatha_hold mach: tty2817: canon input overrun\
Jul 27 09:23:11 ruatha_hold last message repeated 73 times\
Jul 27 09:23:12 ruatha_hold mach: tty2817: canon input overrun\
Jul 27 09:23:12 ruatha_hold last message repeated 22 times\
Jul 27 09:23:13 ruatha_hold mach: tty2817: canon input overrun\
Jul 27 09:23:13 ruatha_hold last message repeated 97 times\
Jul 27 09:23:13 ruatha_hold mach: tty2817: canon input overrun\
Jul 27 09:23:13 ruatha_hold last message repeated 39 times\
These messages just came scrolling accross the screen. At first
I thought it was the laser but disconnecting the laser did not
help. Any pointers would be appreciated.
harry
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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Tuesday, 27 Jul 1993 08:25:28 EDT
From: John Goggan <34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Message-ID: <93208.08252834II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: **LONG** NS/I bugs/problems (5.5 pages)
Distribution: na
References: <CAMyD7.rx@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Well, I've seen people write books about SCSI when answering this, but not
really helping the installation work, so here goes my 1.6 cents (I'm half
Canadian, so I lose a little on the exchance... :)
> * NeXT CD-ROM Drive (Sony CDU 541)
> sd0: INVALID STATUS (internal error): FATAL ERROR
> target: 0 lun: 0 op:Read block:<some #> blockCount:<some #>
I had these same EXACT problems using a Chinon CDS-431 CDROM drive on a
Gateway 2000 486DX/2-50 (ISA) with an Adaptec 1542B controller... It
was under PreRelease 1... We also thought that it was a SCSI bus problem.
After hours (many!) of frustration, we located a different CDROM drive (one
person had written and said that he thought the Chinon CDS-431 was too slow
of a drive, but at first we couldn't get ahold of a different one). We
switched to an AppleCD 150 and everything went fine from there on! That is
also the drive I used to eventually install "the real thing" -- which also
went very smoothly...
Hope that at least helps a little -- in the least, I'd try a different CDROM
drive (and yes, I realize that others have used the drive you are using,
but it's worth a try in my opinion...)
- John...
From: uprao@mcl.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Date: 27 Jul 1993 15:13:01 GMT
Organization: U.C. Santa Barbara
Message-ID: <233glt$sv0@hub.ucsb.edu>
References: <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
In <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
>I have recently (as of three months ago) decided to purchase a good
>486DX2/66MHz machine. My work involves mostly heavy numerical stuff
>and desktop publishing. For the last two years I have been NeXT
>based, running primarily Mathematica and my own codes. NeXT's
>decision to go 486 and pressure from my wife, who uses windows based
>applications for her work made me decide to get a PC. The problem is
>three months ago, I knew absolutely nothing about the subject: now I
>know a little more, but still have more questions than answers.
>To summarize, my requirements are:
> 24-32 MB RAM (expandable to 64MB)
This pretty much forces you to EISA. With ISA, you have too many
compatibility problems if you want to add more than 16 megs (ISA
has a 24 bit DMA line, which means DMA transfers can only see 16
megs. Some machines do all sorts of hokey things to get around this,
but it usually ends up not working -- the extra RAM is either a RAM
disk or useless). You *WILL* see performance benefits on EISA in
any 32 bit OS (I use OS/2, and its a huge increase). EISA is not
that much more than ISA nowadays if you are buying a whole new system
(versus upgrading your old machine, in which case you should [but
don't have too -- ISA cards can fit in EISA] upgrade all your
cards).
>The requirement of being NeXTSTEP compatible is desirable, but I am
>willing to forgo that one for speed (I can *always* learn another
>operating system).
Make sure you're getting a good motherboard, no matter what. Good un's
are Micronics, AMI Enterprise III's, Hippo IV's from Ocean [got one,
its awesome!], and NICE Super-EISA's (avoid their mini-EISA, it bites).
I posted this in case any corrections are in order. :-)
--
parik rao prao@cs.ucsb.edu, rao@cmc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kfilipps@dgim.doc.ca (Ken Filipps)
Subject: Floppy Drive Troubles...Help!
Message-ID: <1993Jul27.154734.21637@clark.dgim.doc.ca>
Sender: news@clark.dgim.doc.ca (#Usenet News)
Organization: Communications Canada
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 93 15:47:34 GMT
I have just recently received the NeXT evaluation Kit for Intel 3.1 and
immediately ran into problems installing it. As it turns out I can't get
any support in Canada because I purchased the kit directly from NeXT. As
well the help line created for the evaluation kit users is only good in
the US... That aside I decided I will try this...
My problem:
The most major problem I have run into is when booting up and running
through the floppy drive sense I get the following message:
Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: Retrying
It goes on doing this forever. I have tryed two different floppy drives
as well as two different floppy controllers (built into IDE controller
card) but continue to get the same thing.
My system is a 486-50 Clone with 16MB RAM, ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA,
ProAudio Spectrum, Adaptec 1542C (for the CD-ROM - device 0), and a
Seagate ST-08a IDE controller for a Maxtor IDE drive (destination for
NeXT), and an AMI Hi-Flex BIOS.
This may be my only way to get support so I would appreciate any help...
Thanks in Advance...
Ken
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Subject: **LONG** NS/I bugs/problems: SOLUTION
Message-ID: <1993Jul27.163725.15147@cc.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
References: <CAMyD7.rx@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <93208.08252834II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 16:37:25 GMT
!> * NeXT CD-ROM Drive (Sony CDU 541)
!> sd0: INVALID STATUS (internal error): FATAL ERROR
!> target: 0 lun: 0 op:Read block:<some #> blockCount:<some #>
!I had these same EXACT problems using a Chinon CDS-431 CDROM drive on a
!Gateway 2000 486DX/2-50 (ISA) with an Adaptec 1542B controller... It
!was under PreRelease 1... We also thought that it was a SCSI bus problem.
!After hours (many!) of frustration, we located a different CDROM drive (one
!person had written and said that he thought the Chinon CDS-431 was too slow
!of a drive, but at first we couldn't get ahold of a different one). We
!switched to an AppleCD 150 and everything went fine from there on! That is
!also the drive I used to eventually install "the real thing" -- which also
!went very smoothly...
Well, we had that same problem for a while ... It is very stupid
but one has to know about that.
FLAME NEXT FOR NOT GIVING PRECISE SPEC ON THE HARDWARE THEY SUPPORT
Ok, I feel better.
All you have to do is to set the DPT controller to a maximum
I/O transfer rate to 5Meg/s using the EISA configuration utility.
It is that simple.
On the Adaptec (that i don't know), there has to be DIP switches
to configure the rate of data transfer. Set it to 5meg/s at most.
Then it should work.
JM
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT??
Message-ID: <69705@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 27 Jul 93 17:18:29 GMT
References: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu> <KARTHY.93Jul25181812@dannug.dannug.dk> <ntomczak.743594464@vega>
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
In article <ntomczak.743594464@vega>,
ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann) writes:
> for more often used numbers you may add, for kermit, in your
> .kermrc lines like this:
> define this dial 5555555
> and just type 'this' ... at a kermit prompt.
or even better, make a command script called ~/myfavorite-host
containing a kermit style chat script like
set input timeout-action quit
dial (999) 999-9999
output \13
input 10 login:
output myname\13
input 20 password:
output mypassword\13
connect
and then the kermit command "take ~/myfavorite-host" dials and logs you in
then since kermit can be given a command file as input on startup,
you can define an alias
alias myhost kermit ~/myfavorite-host
so you dont even have to enter kermit, just type myhost at the shell prompt
this is just the surface, kermit is one really nice comm package
P.S. if anyone has figured out how to get kermit to dial a defender,
wait for the callback and then login, please let me know.
--
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the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 27 Jul 1993 17:50:21 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <233pst$no0@nic.umass.edu>
References: <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <233glt$sv0@hub.ucsb.edu>
: >The requirement of being NeXTSTEP compatible is desirable, but I am
: Make sure you're getting a good motherboard, no matter what. Good un's
: are Micronics, AMI Enterprise III's, Hippo IV's from Ocean [got one,
: its awesome!], and NICE Super-EISA's (avoid their mini-EISA, it bites).
Make sure you get an EISA/VESA motherboard...and if you want to run NeXTSTEP
for Intel Processors then don't get the Micronics EISA/VESA -- it doesn't work
due to a keyboard incompatibility (although the motherboard itself is one of
the best around).
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
From: msb@gondolin.UUCP (Michael S. Barthelemy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Instance0.table for SerialMouse Driver
Date: 27 Jul 1993 16:43:52 -0400
Organization: The Ohio State University
Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <9307262321.AA00431@gondolin>
Could someone please e-mail me the Instance0.table from inside of
/usr/Devices/SerialMouse.config wrapper for a working serial mouse on
com port 1 (0x3f8 - perhaps com 0 to NEXTSTEP...The first serial port
in any case) I am starting to wonder if my mouse is incompatible
(really cheap Microsoft compatible) or if it is my serial card which
does not have 16550's on it like it should according to the next
answers help.
Congrats to NeXT however, as configuring my system without a mouse was
not impossible since all of the data files are just flat ascii text
files. (Having to use ed was not fun however. ;-)
Thanks,
Mike Barthelemy
NEXTSTEP Developer
msb@its.com
(Please note my reply to field is probably messed up - please send
replies to msb@its.com)
From: ta-sav2@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cheap CD ROM Drive
Date: 27 Jul 1993 22:10:16 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <234948$hm7@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <230qjo$2vc@nic.umass.edu> <231i8n$q3s@usenet.rpi.edu> <23238u$4n6@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Just to add on to my previous posting. I called NEC and . . .
Turns out these Nec CDR-25s are not Multisession capable, though they
are single-session photo-cd compatible. They're a discontinued model
that's been around for a few years. The question is, has anyone loaded
NS from one of these drives? I'd like to get one, as it's so cheap.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. For those who didn't read the last posting,
see below.
Sean
- - - - - - - - -
Tiger Software 1-800-666-2562 is selling NEC CDR-25 CD ROM drives for
$199.00 complete with interface for Macintosh. Careful, their salesmen
are crooks and will try to sell you the $700.00 NEC drives.
******************************************************************************
"Too much reverb!"
Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, ta-sav2@cunixa.columbia.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller)
Subject: Re: Is anyone using a ZyXEL Fax modem on black NeXT??
Message-ID: <5TRFB6QT@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <22ptes$3gk@hub.ucsb.edu>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 22:15:05 GMT
Douglas Scott (doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu) wrote:
: Could someone who has successfully used a ZyXEL high-speed modem on a NeXT
: please contact me? The literature claims it will work, but I am unable to:
Get a copy of NXFaxDemo from your fauvorite ftp-server. Then things will
(should) work.
With the NeXT fax daemon I think you cant do simultaneously fax and modem (dial in)
services with the Zyxel - actually I don't know any modem which would do that.
With the NXFax software you can do this very smoothly.
In the demo mode of NXFax you can simultaneously send one page faxes #and#
enable dialin - and of course dial out.
I work w/ NXFax for quite some time and it runs very nice.
Meinrad
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Foehrenweg 1
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Tel.: +49-551-300095
From: danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to run a headless cube?
Date: 28 Jul 1993 05:16:12 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23522s$hpm@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
i know this can be done; i've seen posts here about it before (but
of course didn't save them).
I would suspect what i need to do is:
o specify "serial a is alternate console" in ROM monitor
o modify /etc/ttys appropriately
o hook up a dumb terminal
o muck up some piece of hardware to hook up to the monitor port
to turn on the cube
the last one is the hard part. I tried just unplugging the
monitor while the system was running, but that cut the power to
the cube, which was a drag.
can anyone supply me with a diagram for what I'd have to wire up to the
monitor port?
thanks, danno
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: ND Software
Message-ID: <CAupxM.5yE@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 01:39:21 GMT
I asked a very general question about ND software last week.
I should have asked a more specific question.
Is there any software to capture video clips and send them out the digital
output on the board?
Is the ND capable of mixing video from 2 of the inputs and sending it out the
output?
Is the ND capable of overlaying an image on the computer onto live video as
is passes from the ND input to the output.
last thing I got my ND from someone who had it sitting on a shelf with no Docs.
If anyone has the docs or any technical info on the ND it would be nice if you
can send it. NeXTmail is fine.
I'll post all email responses to the net.
Thanks,
Kent
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From: edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque)
Subject: Re: Orchid Prodesigner IIs + Farhenheit 1280+ VLB
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.085702.21315@cubx.com>
Sender: news@cubx.com
Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
References: <2326ar$75g@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 08:57:02 GMT
In article <2326ar$75g@sbcs.sunysb.edu> csilva@cs.sunysb.edu (Claudio
Silva) writes:
> Jim Blum (jmb@merit.edu) wrote:
> : Will this card work with the NEXTSTEP ET4000 video driver?
>
> No, I tryed a Prodesigner IIs on NSI 3.1 and unless I am
> doing something really wrong it only works at 640x480(Standard VGA).
>
> Does anybody know how to get it to work at 1024x768 or it just does not
work
> at all ? Is it a bug or should I get another motherboard that
> supports VLB cards ?
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Claudio. (csilva@cs.sunysb.edu)
The Farhenheit 1280+ VLB (and 100% compatible) has been tested by Jean
Pierre Lai-Chong (President of Man Magazine, the French NeXTSTEP
newsletter, info@man.fdn.org ). It seems to be working quite well at :
800x600x16 bit color
1024x768x8 bit grayscale.
(486DX2/66Mhz ISA VL-BUS w/ NS/FIP 3.1)
Apparently, NeXT doesn't know/tell that.
Just though, I'd let yall know...
Ed.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque)
Subject: Re: Orchid Prodesigner IIs + Farhenheit 1280+ VLB
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.090702.21582@cubx.com>
Sender: news@cubx.com
Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
References: <1993Jul28.085702.21315@cubx.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 09:07:02 GMT
In article <1993Jul28.085702.21315@cubx.com> edasque@cubx.com (Eric
Dasque) writes:
> In article <2326ar$75g@sbcs.sunysb.edu> csilva@cs.sunysb.edu (Claudio
> Silva) writes:
> > Jim Blum (jmb@merit.edu) wrote:
> > : Will this card work with the NEXTSTEP ET4000 video driver?
> >
> > No, I tryed a Prodesigner IIs on NSI 3.1 and unless I am
> > doing something really wrong it only works at 640x480(Standard VGA).
> >
> > Does anybody know how to get it to work at 1024x768 or it just does
not
> work
> > at all ? Is it a bug or should I get another motherboard that
> > supports VLB cards ?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> >
> > Claudio. (csilva@cs.sunysb.edu)
>
> The Farhenheit 1280+ VLB (and 100% compatible) has been tested by Jean
> Pierre Lai-Chong (President of Man Magazine, the French NeXTSTEP
> newsletter, info@man.fdn.org ). It seems to be working quite well at :
> 800x600x16 bit color
> 1024x768x8 bit grayscale.
>
> (486DX2/66Mhz ISA VL-BUS w/ NS/FIP 3.1)
>
> Apparently, NeXT doesn't know/tell that.
> Just though, I'd let yall know...
>
> Ed.
Also thought, I'd add that the Farhenheit 1280+ ISA doesn't work. Probably
because it uses a 801 S3 instead of a 805.
Also I forgot my sig...
Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French Guy"
Cub'x Systemes only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease...
ed@cubx.com It all started 2 full back-up ago...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: drew@cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.095819.15150@colorado.edu>
Sender: news@colorado.edu (The Daily Planet)
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
References: <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <233glt$sv0@hub.ucsb.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 09:58:19 GMT
In article <233glt$sv0@hub.ucsb.edu> uprao@mcl.ucsb.edu writes:
>In <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
>>I have recently (as of three months ago) decided to purchase a good
>>486DX2/66MHz machine. My work involves mostly heavy numerical stuff
>>and desktop publishing. For the last two years I have been NeXT
>>based, running primarily Mathematica and my own codes. NeXT's
>>decision to go 486 and pressure from my wife, who uses windows based
>>applications for her work made me decide to get a PC. The problem is
>>three months ago, I knew absolutely nothing about the subject: now I
>>know a little more, but still have more questions than answers.
>
>>To summarize, my requirements are:
>
>> 24-32 MB RAM (expandable to 64MB)
>
>This pretty much forces you to EISA. With ISA, you have too many
>compatibility problems if you want to add more than 16 megs (ISA
>has a 24 bit DMA line, which means DMA transfers can only see 16
>megs.
>Some machines do all sorts of hokey things to get around this,
>but it usually ends up not working -- the extra RAM is either a RAM
>disk or useless).
BS. Any reasonable operating system will double buffer when using
an ISA DMA device and transfering to memory > 16M. We even do this
with ISA SCSI controllers in Linux (written by about thirty major
contributors scattered all over the net).
>You *WILL* see performance benefits on EISA in any 32 bit OS
>(I use OS/2, and its a huge increase).
You WON'T see any performance benefits on EISA unless you have
your peripherials (ie, SCSI board) on the EISA bus, which can
cost significantly more than those on ISA.
The biggest bus hog in any system is video, your best bet is going
to be sticking that on VESA local bus, ethernet, disk traffic,
etc all pale in comparison.
>>The requirement of being NeXTSTEP compatible is desirable, but I am
>>willing to forgo that one for speed (I can *always* learn another
>>operating system).
>
>Make sure you're getting a good motherboard, no matter what. Good un's
>are Micronics, AMI Enterprise III's, Hippo IV's from Ocean [got one,
>its awesome!], and NICE Super-EISA's (avoid their mini-EISA, it bites).
Whatever motherboard you get, get a *guarantee* that it will work with
your operating system, in your configuration.
We've run into cases where Linux was 6X as fast on a 16M machine
than on the same machine with 32M of memory because the broken
chipset disabled the cache (internal and external) when over
16M of memory installed.
--
Boycott USL/Novell for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit. |
Condemn Colorado for Amendment Two. | Drew Eckhardt
Use Linux, the fast, flexible, and free 386 unix | drew@cs.Colorado.EDU
Will administer Unix for food |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Becki Kain <beckers@imagine.com>
Subject: intel gx systems
Message-ID: <1993Jul27.201736.846@imagine.com>
Sender: beckers@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1993 20:17:36 GMT
who sells them with nextstep installed?
beckers
--
Becki Kain - Imagine Multimedia - beckers@imagine.com nextmail welcome
"the love gone bad turned my world to black"
From: imj1@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Imad M Jureidini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NICE Motherboard
Date: 28 Jul 1993 12:51:09 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <235snt$ila@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Hi!
I am thinking of getting a new motherboard for my system. As I was
grazing through Computer Shopper, I noticed this NICE-MCCI motherbaord. It
is a 486 DX2/66, with 6 EISA slots and 2 VESA slots. It also comes with 1
megabyte of cache. It's price is $1139 (from motherboards int., p. 654).
Does anyone have any experience with this motherbaord, and especially
using NextSTEP?
Thanks!
*******************************************************************************
* imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu Imad "Hexabyte" Jureidini *
*******************************************************************************
From: imj1@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Imad M Jureidini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NICE Motherboard
Date: 28 Jul 1993 12:57:11 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <235t37$iod@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Hi!
I am thinking of getting a new motherboard for my system. As I was
grazing through Computer Shopper, I noticed this NICE-MCCI motherbaord. It
is a 486 DX2/66, with 6 EISA slots and 2 VESA slots. It also comes with 1
megabyte of cache. It's price is $1139 (from motherboards int., p. 654).
Does anyone have any experience with this motherboard? Are there any
penalties in the fact that the VESA slots are built on ISA slots, while the
other ones are EISA slots? Does is support 32 bit DMA? And finally, does
anyone know whether it works with NextSTEP?
Thanks!
*******************************************************************************
* imj1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu Imad "Hexabyte" Jureidini *
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: mjh@cs.vu.nl (Huisjes MJ)
Subject: Motorola NeXT compatible DSP cards for NS/FIP ?
Message-ID: <CAvq0p.Cr5@cs.vu.nl>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Keywords: dsp,fip,ariel,ilink
Sender: news@cs.vu.nl
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 14:38:48 GMT
Does anybody know of a Motorola NeXT compatible DSP card for NS/FIP ?
I know about the one from Ariel, it has the same dsp chip but there
are no drivers (yet) and it is quite expensive. Also there is a company in
Berlin called Ilink which is trying to make a compatible card & drivers for
NS/FIP, but they are not planning a release soon. Anybody else ?
Something with drivers is preferred.
PS. We actually used the DSP to transfer a real time full duplex 2Mb PCM stream
from/to the NeXT computer. If you have ideas how to accomplice this
another way, let me know.
Thanks, Maarten.
--
Maarten Huisjes. mjh@cs.vu.nl (192.31.231.42)
(..!uunet.uu.net!cs.vu.nl!mjh)
From: cathomas@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Domain -- Services problem
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.115111.1558@indyvax.iupui.edu>
Date: 28 Jul 93 11:51:11 -0500
With HOSTMANAGER I accidentally changed domain from the default (/) to mydomain
now when the cube boots it retries indefinitely to find the yp server.
How do I cancel the retries.
Is this problem fatel and in need of a rebuild?
I use NS 3.0 on a 030 booting from an internal 350MB SCSI.
CT
CATHOMAS@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam)
Subject: 16 bit audio on NS/I
Message-ID: <CAw0x2.KB0@unix.portal.com>
Summary: Only 8 bit possible?
Keywords: NEXTSTEP Intel ProAudio Audio 8 16 bit
Sender: raf@shell.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 18:34:13 GMT
I recently installed a MediaVision ProAudio Spectrum card in our
NEXTSTEP/Intel box.
Can anybody confirm it isn't possible to get 16 bit audio out of
this board using an ISA+LocalBus machine with Adaptec 1542B?
It doesn't like working with the high-order DMA channels.
Only 8 bit low-order DMA channels work.
If it wont work with this combination, then what combination does
it work with?
Cheers for any advice,
Brian Leake.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam)
Subject: Re: Question concerning CD-ROM and audio
Message-ID: <CAw12u.Kq3@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
References: <230rju$4d3@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 18:37:41 GMT
In article <230rju$4d3@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) writes:
> I have hooked up a NEC CD-ROM drive to my cube. I am trying to use
>the CDPlayer program to play cd-audio off the CD-ROM drive and it
>is not working. Any suggestions?
I have no advice to offer, I'm afriad BUT - I have the NEC CD-ROM drive
on my machine also, except this time it's an Intel box. This drive
is quite capable of playing audio from <gulp> MS Windows.
Hmm...
From: ckuhn@sgcl1.unisg.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI vs. IDE
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.193814.906@sgcl1.unisg.ch>
Date: 28 Jul 93 19:38:13 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland
Hi
does anyone know if it pays to use a SCSI instead of an IDE harddisk with NeXT
Mach OS? The price differences
are quite significant between those two architectures.
Christoph Kuhn
IWI_4
University of St. Gallen
From: ckuhn@sgcl1.unisg.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SVGA mode with ET4000 on an ISA
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.194706.907@sgcl1.unisg.ch>
Date: 28 Jul 93 19:47:06 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland
Hi
I have a Tseng Lag ET4000 card on my machine with 1 MB of memory, but
unfortunatley I can only run NeXT successfully in VGA mode. When I install the
ET4000 driver, the screen flickers (strong) when it changes to graphics mode.
I have a NEC multysync 5D monitor which supports all the graphic levels of my
card (I have verified that under DOS with a demo program).
Does the ET4000 driver only support a certain ROM date of the Tseng cards or
only from a special manufacturer?
Thank you for any replies.
Christoph Kuhn
IWI_4
University of St. Gallen
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: URGENT _ Help on hardware purchase!
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.142835.15520@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 28 Jul 93 14:28:35 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
I am buying 13 486 machines - 12 clients and a server"
for an NSF funded lab. project. I would appreciate any
help or comments on the following facts as I near the
end of my search --
1. We have a very limited budget - We can just afford
the 13 machines - 32MB Ram in server, 1.0-1.6GB disk,
17" monitor and in the clients - 16 MB, 240 MB disk,
and 15" monitors. (Plus a floating scsi card for the
12 clients for software loading - Assuming that they
have IDE drives.)
2. If I get my best deal on a major manufacturer -
HP, for example, I will have about $25 left in the
grant after buying the OS, cables, and required
software. But, memory prices seem to be rapidly
going up and major manufacturers seem to be stable
for the moment of memory prices.
3. Clones, such as those put together by Alpine
Systems in Utah seem to be a good deal. Alpine will
configure a system and test it with NeXTstep. But,
clone memory seems to be going through the roof,
making such a system expensive and possibly pushing
our limits.
I need to buy a system within a few weeks - If memory
prices are really going up fast, it seems that I
should try to rush an order through immediately.
So, should I buy a clone or an HP? Anyone have
experience with HP video performance - latest
Vectra or NetServer486? Or with low-end Epsons.
Are memory prices and/or availability really that
bad or will waiting weeks or even months (maybe
not possible) help (or hurt)?
Thanks in advance for comments.
Thomas J. Herbert
Department of Biology
University of Miami
therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Tiger Software (was Re: Cheap CD ROM Drive)
Date: 28 Jul 1993 19:48:19 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <236l63$pcd@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <23238u$4n6@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <234948$hm7@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <CAw1vx.BuI@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Phil McDunnough writes:
>>
>>Tiger Software 1-800-666-2562 is selling NEC CDR-25 CD ROM drives for
>>$199.00 complete with interface for Macintosh. Careful, their salesmen
>>are crooks and will try to sell you the $700.00 NEC drives.
>
>I have had many dealings with them and have found them to be helpful and
>reliable. There was a time when they had trouble due to a hurricane, but
>I think it's a bit much to be broadcasting statements of this type to the
>world ( i.e. "their salesmen are crooks" ). This is yet another sign of
>just how much the next newsgroups have changed over the past few months.
>
>> Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, ta-sav2@cunixa.columbia.edu
Another data point: I once ordered a grammar checker from Tiger Software
only to find out the next day that it was not the most recent version.
I tried at least four times to get them to take back the older version and
send me the latest version. They agreed on the phone to ship the new
version, but instead they shipped the old version a second time and,
if I remember right, a third time. I never did get the new version but,
some months later, after a very angry letter, I got a refund check.
Mitch Gass
mitch@mills.edu
From: stoney@oyster.smcm.edu (Stanley Toney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: WANTED : Vendors of new/used NeXT printers, etc
Date: 28 Jul 1993 20:43:08 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <236ocs$6nb@umd5.umd.edu>
We have need to purchase black box addons for our existing NeXT stations
specificially printers and wonder can any body recommend a good reseller or
distributer who has a good stock. Email replies welcome.
thanks in advance
stan
--
Stanley Toney stoney@oyster.smcm.edu NeXTMail - OK
Division of Mathematics and Natural Sciences
St. Mary's College of Maryland
St. Marys City MD 20686
my opinions are my own, not my employers
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NextStep on PPC?
Date: 28 Jul 1993 20:58:30 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <236p9m$cbf@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <90270001@hpldsla.sid.hp.com>
Keywords: Power PC
In article <90270001@hpldsla.sid.hp.com> anash@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Adam Nash)
writes:
| Is NextStep being ported to the Power PC?
|
| I've gotten conflicting reports...
|
| Comments, please ...
|
| -Adam
|
IBM says it is. Rumor says by Canon. Send me some NeXTstep PA-RISCs and I'll
forget about IBM and Canon.
--
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Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: uprao@mcl.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Date: 28 Jul 1993 21:22:17 GMT
Organization: U.C. Santa Barbara
Message-ID: <236qm9$1rc@hub.ucsb.edu>
References: <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <233glt$sv0@hub.ucsb.edu> <1993Jul28.095819.15150@colorado.edu>
In <1993Jul28.095819.15150@colorado.edu> drew@cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt) writes:
>In article <233glt$sv0@hub.ucsb.edu> uprao@mcl.ucsb.edu writes:
>>In <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
>>This pretty much forces you to EISA. With ISA, you have too many
>>compatibility problems if you want to add more than 16 megs (ISA
>>has a 24 bit DMA line, which means DMA transfers can only see 16
>>megs.
>>Some machines do all sorts of hokey things to get around this,
>>but it usually ends up not working -- the extra RAM is either a RAM
>>disk or useless).
>BS. Any reasonable operating system will double buffer when using
>an ISA DMA device and transfering to memory > 16M. We even do this
>with ISA SCSI controllers in Linux (written by about thirty major
>contributors scattered all over the net).
Well, I find double buffering pretty hokey, imho. The machine puts the
data in the lower 16 megs, and automatically copies it onto the right
place in the >16MB area. Thats a performance hit right there,
which is avoided with a good EISA mboard. Granted, memory->memory
moving is pretty fast, but why not just avoid it.
--
parik rao prao@cs.ucsb.edu, rao@cmc.com
From: robbie@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: help: need recommendation on 2.5 Gb SCSI disk drive for NeXT (black)
Message-ID: <10055@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca>
Date: 28 Jul 93 12:51:42 GMT
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine
I'm looking for recommendations on 2.5 Gb SCSI disk drives for my
NeXT Turbo (NS 3.0).
At the moment, price isn't important. I'm more interested in whether the
drive is compatible with the NeXT.
One vendor is recommending either a Seagate (ST42400N) or Fujitsu (M2624SA).
Another vendor claims that there has been a lot of problems with Seagate
drives on NeXT (black) boxes and therefore will not sell me a Seagate.
I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has a Seagate on their
NeXT. Any suggestions/comments are greatly welcomed.
Rob Arrabito
DCIEM
e-mail: robbie@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
phone: (416) 635-2033
fax: (416) 635-2104
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Intel GX Professional Support Contacts
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.221551.18570@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 22:15:51 GMT
I was concerned about not receiving a warranty card with my Intel
GX Professional 486DX2/66 computer, which I purchased from Avnet
Computer. So I did some digging and came up with the following
info:
According to Intel, all you need for warranty service is the
model no. and serial no. of your computer. Intel knows when each
computer left the factory, so all you need is to provide the
two numbers to get service from Intel.
Repairs, Tech Support, Sales Info:
800-INTEL4U
Intel BBS (driver updates, etc.):
916 356-3600
Intel FAX-back service:
800 628-2283
Hope this info helps sooth worries about tech support and contacts.
--
Michael McCulloch
mmcculloch@nebula.tbe.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
From: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Any problems with SIS chipset + ATI GUP?
Date: 28 Jul 1993 22:39:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Sender: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <236v7gINNila@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
The subject says it all. I'm considering buying a motherboard with this
chipset, either EISA or VL-bus, and connecting an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro
2MB version. Any experiences with NSI with this configuration?
Ari
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From: jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum)
Subject: Floppy in cube
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.025044.24963@Princeton.EDU>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 02:50:44 GMT
I know thatt there was a thread concerning floppy drives in cubes,
but it has now expired at this site...at least I can't find it anymore.
If someone saved this thread, could they please email me a copy? I am
trying to decide between a Teac 2.88MB drive and an Iomega 21MB SCSI drive.
If anyone has experience with installing either in a turbo cube, please let
me know about advantages/disadvantages.
Thanks much!
-jeff
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From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: Re: SVGA mode with ET4000 on an ISA
Message-ID: <1993Jul29.052932.28198@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
References: <1993Jul28.194706.907@sgcl1.unisg.ch>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 05:29:32 GMT
In article <1993Jul28.194706.907@sgcl1.unisg.ch> ckuhn@sgcl1.unisg.ch writes:
>Hi
>
>I have a Tseng Lag ET4000 card on my machine with 1 MB of memory, but
>unfortunatley I can only run NeXT successfully in VGA mode. When I install the
>ET4000 driver, the screen flickers (strong) when it changes to graphics mode.
>
>I have a NEC multysync 5D monitor which supports all the graphic levels of my
>card (I have verified that under DOS with a demo program).
>
>Does the ET4000 driver only support a certain ROM date of the Tseng cards or
>only from a special manufacturer?
The one that I have: 2theMax ET4000 works for me (I've tested that
with ADI 4A and old Nec Multisync Plus).
>Thank you for any replies.
>
>
>Christoph Kuhn
>IWI_4
>University of St. Gallen
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: what is EISA bus support?
Date: 27 Jul 1993 22:29:12 -0000
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Keywords: 486 Eisa VLB
chi@watnxt08.uucp (Lung-chi Chuang) writes:
>I read the system requirement for NS/FIP ... it says EISA Bus support...
>and then at the graphic card requirement it says ATI VLB Graphic???? I am
>confused... if I have a VESA Local Bus motherboard without EISA bus slot
>will NeXTStep still run under it? Do I really need to have bother EISA
>bus and VESA SLOTS on my mother board?
Nono. VESA and EISA are two different bus concepts that primarily don't
hurt each other. You can use (and pay for) both if you want to, but you needn't.
The ATI card works for NS/I as VESA _or_ EISA board. VESA has the better
throughput, EISA the better hardware architecture (i.e. VESA is sort of
a dirty hardware hack, especially if you have boards clocked above 33 MHz).
NS/I runs with an VESA ATI and no EISA slots, of course. On the other hand,
you can avoid some troubles with EISA, especially the interference between
the ProAudio Spectrum and the ISA Adaptec 1542 - both want to be busmaster,
which results in crashes on ISA/VESA architecture and is no problem on EISA.
The ideal configuration (= the most expensive one) would be an VESA
graphics adapter and an EISA SCSI controller (DPT, Adaptec 1742 in 3.2).
Hope that helps,
Markus.
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Motorola NeXT compatible DSP cards for NS/FIP ?
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.184123.19089@cs.yale.edu>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 18:41:23 GMT
In article <CAvq0p.Cr5@cs.vu.nl> mjh@cs.vu.nl (Huisjes MJ) writes:
> Does anybody know of a Motorola NeXT compatible DSP card for NS/FIP ?
> I know about the one from Ariel, it has the same dsp chip but there
> are no drivers (yet) and it is quite expensive. Also there is a company in
> Berlin called Ilink which is trying to make a compatible card & drivers for
> NS/FIP, but they are not planning a release soon. Anybody else ?
There was a small company at Expo that displayed an ISA DSP56001 card
along with a great a/d/smpte box and software. I think it was Cambridge
Soundworks, but I'm not sure.
--
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Systems Manager, Axel T. Brunger Lab
Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
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Fax: 203 432 3923
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From: dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke)
Subject: Re: Any problems with SIS chipset + ATI GUP?
Message-ID: <1993Jul29.060028.11428@sol.UVic.CA>
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References: <236v7gINNila@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 93 06:00:28 GMT
In article <236v7gINNila@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen) writes:
>
>The subject says it all. I'm considering buying a motherboard with this
>chipset, either EISA or VL-bus, and connecting an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro
>2MB version. Any experiences with NSI with this configuration?
>
>Ari
>
I'm curious too. I believe I'll be buying a SIS based system soon.
When I last had a chance to digest some of the latest
performance results of 66Mhz DX2 machines, the top memory access and
processor scores (excluding a couple proprietary systems such as Compaq)
were consistently scored with SIS chipset mthbrds sporting 60ns RAM.
70ns systems were a little slower and 80ns systems were significantly
slower.
It's been so long since I've played with Intel machines, can anyone
also add if the bios allows a setup to configure the memory speed, so
one can make the most of performance? Most vendors around here supply
their systems with 70ns RAM.
Dennis dmanke@sanjuan.uvic.ca
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From: philip@nexus.yorku.ca (Phil McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Cheap CD ROM Drive
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 18:55:09 GMT
In article <234948$hm7@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> ta-sav2@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah) writes:
[ ]
>
>Tiger Software 1-800-666-2562 is selling NEC CDR-25 CD ROM drives for
>$199.00 complete with interface for Macintosh. Careful, their salesmen
>are crooks and will try to sell you the $700.00 NEC drives.
I have had many dealings with them and have found them to be helpful and
reliable. There was a time when they had trouble due to a hurricane, but
I think it's a bit much to be broadcasting statements of this type to the
world ( i.e. "their salesmen are crooks" ). This is yet another sign of
just how much the next newsgroups have changed over the past few months.
> Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, ta-sav2@cunixa.columbia.edu
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Subject: Grafix Adapters for NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Jul29.121454.1@nl103.ittpub.nl>
From: pmiso_jv@nl103.ittpub.nl
Date: 29 Jul 93 12:14:54 WET+0100
Organization: ITT Publitec R+D BV, Amsterdam
Nntp-Posting-User: hans
I'm planning on buying a new grafics adapter and would like to know
if certain adapters are compatible with NeXTSTEP for Intel.
I'm interested in buying one of these ATI Graphics Ultra Pro boards,
but I think they are rather expensive.
To my surprise I found one shop nearby that has ATI cards for a much
lower price, but is listed as 'ATI Ultra Pro Mach 32 VL Bus'. The
sales-person of the shop is just that and didn't know anything about
the technical side of hardware at all.
My question is: is this card compatible with NeXTSTEP/FIP and if yes,
is it any good?
thanx
Jurjen
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From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery)
Subject: FIP Manual editing (was Re: Instance0.table ...)
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.114937.3196@ToTSySSoft.com>
Keywords: editing, FIP, configuration
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
References: <9307262321.AA00431@gondolin>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1993 11:49:37 GMT
In article <9307262321.AA00431@gondolin> msb@gondolin.UUCP
(Michael S. Barthelemy) writes:
[snip]
-> Congrats to NeXT however, as configuring my system
-> without a mouse was not impossible since all of the
-> data files are just flat ascii text files.
-> (Having to use ed was not fun however. ;-)
Actually, you can change your terminal with TERM= (Bourne
shell) or set term (csh) and use vi in ed mode -- it's a
little better! At least you can ``cursor'' through the
lines with hjkl
Bruce
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From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: SVGA mode with ET4000 on an ISA
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Jul29.180756.40602@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 18:07:56 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1993Jul28.194706.907@sgcl1.unisg.ch>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <1993Jul28.194706.907@sgcl1.unisg.ch>, ckuhn@sgcl1.unisg.ch writes:
|> Hi
|>
|> I have a Tseng Lag ET4000 card on my machine with 1 MB of memory, but
|> unfortunatley I can only run NeXT successfully in VGA mode. When I install the
|> ET4000 driver, the screen flickers (strong) when it changes to graphics mode.
|>
|> I have a NEC multysync 5D monitor which supports all the graphic levels of my
|> card (I have verified that under DOS with a demo program).
Well, actually it probably didn't do ALL modes your card can do. Remember to a certain extent display cards are programmable.
I have a KFC monitor, and it worked just fine with a Diamond Speedstar ET-4000 card. But when I booted up Windoze and configured my ATI card for 8514a mode, my monitor started to flicker. So I guess problems like that go both ways.....
|>
|> Does the ET4000 driver only support a certain ROM date of the Tseng cards or
|> only from a special manufacturer?
|>
|> Thank you for any replies.
|>
|>
|> Christoph Kuhn
|> IWI_4
|> University of St. Gallen
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From: walter@iscp.bellcore.com (Walter Schwendemann)
Subject: Ultrastor 34f
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.175135.765@walter.bellcore.com>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 17:51:35 GMT
Does anyone know if a driver is available fir the ultrastor 34f ????
--
_________________________________________________________________________________________
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From: kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: intel gx systems
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Date: 29 Jul 93 20:17:58 GMT
References: <1993Jul27.201736.846@imagine.com>
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Becki Kain (beckers@imagine.com) wrote:
: who sells them with nextstep installed?
: beckers
: --
: Becki Kain - Imagine Multimedia - beckers@imagine.com nextmail welcome
: "the love gone bad turned my world to black"
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From: ttg242@newton.sps.mot.com (David Thornewill von Essen)
Subject: Oracle keyboard resource file
Message-ID: <1993Jul29.203742.29913@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Sender: news@newsgate.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola ASIC Division
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 20:37:42 GMT
Is anyone out there running Oracle forms V3.0 using the CoXist
emulator on a Next. If so could you point me towards the right
.r file.
An email response is preferred, but I will scan these groups for
10 days or so.
Many thanks,
David TvE
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From: mgilula@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu (Marshall Gilula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: intel gx systems
Date: 29 Jul 1993 21:01:07 GMT
Organization: RSMAS/University of Miami
Message-ID: <239dqj$qum@umigw.miami.edu>
References: <18432@news.duke.edu>
In article <18432@news.duke.edu> kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt Bollacker)
writes:
> Becki Kain (beckers@imagine.com) wrote:
> : who sells them with nextstep installed?
I heard that Alpine can do this...
but I also heard that Gateway gave better
prices.
<<<munch>>>>>
-73-
Marshall Gilula
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From: johnw@vti.com (John Wiegley)
Subject: Getting a DAT drive to work
Message-ID: <CAy4Ix.84M@vti.com>
Organization: Virtual Technologies Inc.
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 21:47:20 GMT
I have a 1 Gig SCSI DAT drive (the Archival DDT-1100). It's
about 4 years old.
I can send SCSI commands just fine, but if I try to read or
write, I get an I/O Error.
Then I tried using a C program that manipulates the SCSI
device drivers (both "rst0" and "sg0"). The error I get
is 2 (check sense), with the sense code being 8 (blank check).
Why idea what's going on here? I'd REALLY like to get this
tape drive to work, since my system's never been backed up
before.
And just to let you know:
The SCSI ID is unique
I'm using MRS tapes
I've tried: cpio, tar, dd, dump
"mf" works ok
I've yet to get a single byte on or off the tape
I can't even change the way it behaves!!
I could really use some help.
Thanks,
John
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From: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Subject: Ethernet Cards and 3.1 - SMC vs. Intel - use Intel
Message-ID: <CAy7DI.x0@oceania.com>
Sender: john@oceania.com (John Robison)
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 22:48:53 GMT
Hi all,
We have been tracking down an intermittent Ethernet
problem now for several weeks. It seems that NeXTStep
often goes "out to lunch", for over a second, every
once in a while when doing Ethernet-intensive tasks.
While this is annoying, it by no means cripples the
system. (Already reported to NeXT.)
However, we did a bunch of testing with the two
Ethernet cards we had in house, and found that
the SMC Ethernet card works particularly poorly
when running NeXTStep 3.1 for Intel.
We ran the Intel cards with IRQ10 (a 16-bit
slot configuration) with all settings
except the IRQ at factory defaults. These cards
*never* go "out to lunch", and seem to perform
as good or better than the SMC cards.
So, (I wish *I* had known this earlier) to help
those of you faced with deciding between two almost
equally priced cards, go with the Intel!
We are not sure if the problem is related to the
3.1 SMC driver, NeXTStep and the SMC cards, or
the SMC cards themselves. We do not do hardly
any DOS stuff over the network, and have not been
able to establish any patterns in that area. The
problem could even be related to our rather
long "thinnet" network (unlikely - we recently
re-partitioned the net into smaller segments,
but continue to have trouble). At any rate, the NeXT,
Sun, and IBM machines we have all work fine. So
do the PCs with Intel cards.
The bottom line: I recommend that people
buy INTEL ethernet cards for NeXTStep computers
running 3.1 NeXTStep. (If you have a choice.)
My $0.02,
John
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From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How to run a headless cube?
Date: 30 Jul 1993 06:42:24 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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References: <23522s$hpm@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu>
In article <23522s$hpm@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu> danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Dan Pritts) writes:
>the last one is the hard part. I tried just unplugging the
>monitor while the system was running, but that cut the power to
>the cube, which was a drag.
The secret is is an old SupportBulletin. Older cubes, before a certain
serial number actually REQUIRED the load of the monitor in order to
function. Thus you need to get a new power supply.
RWW.
--
Robert W. Wong Jr.
wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
Crasher of Automated Banking Machines and Keeper of the ZyXEL FAQ
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From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: SCSI controllers
Message-ID: <1993Jul30.005323.590@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 00:53:23 GMT
In article <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
<NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
> Other questions that are holding me back are the choice of expansion
> bus I have decided to go with a SCSI hard disk for both speed and
> because eventually I would like to move into the >GB class. While
> reading this net and the various publications, I have formed the
> opinion that SCSI+ISA is faster than IDE. The question is, is
> SCSI+EISA better still??, and as single machine user, do I need EISA
> expansion slots at all?? If I have an EISA SCSI controller, will
> NS/FIP work with that??
You can use an EISA SCSI controller, and the performance is *much* better.
NS 3.2 will offer more options, but for 3.1, your only choice is between
DPT 2012 and DPT 2022 and Bus Logic 747. The 2022 replaces the 2012 and is
much better. The Bus Logic works well also.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Dell and Adaptec
Message-ID: <1993Jul30.005757.646@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Jul21.144542.2229@cyantic.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 00:57:57 GMT
In article <1993Jul21.144542.2229@cyantic.com> mark@cyantic.com (Mark T.
Dornfeld) writes:
> According to the June 8 HW Compatibility Guide, NS/FIP does not support
an
> EISA Adaptec Controller (1740/1742). I wonder if this lack of support
will
> also prevent the ISA version from working in the EISA bus.
No.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: del@adied.oz.au (D Elson)
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Message-ID: <del.744015553@ss1>
Organization: Australian Defence Industries
References: <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <233glt$sv0@hub.ucsb.edu> <233pst$no0@nic.umass.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 06:59:13 GMT
>: Make sure you're getting a good motherboard, no matter what. Good un's
>: are Micronics, AMI Enterprise III's, Hippo IV's from Ocean [got one,
>: its awesome!], and NICE Super-EISA's (avoid their mini-EISA, it bites).
Can anyone give me the phone or fax number of a mail order dealer of
these? Preferably not a 80-number, I can't use those from Australia.
Del
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From: glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Subject: Who supplies 2.8 MB floppy drives?
Message-ID: <1993Jul29.155438.1070@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Sender: glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 15:54:38 GMT
Who else, other than PLI, supplies 3 1/4" 2.8 Megabyte SCSI floppy
disk drives? Recommendations welcome, as well.
--
Glen Biagioni
Software Developer
glen@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (small NeXTmail accepted)
604 872-7116 604 872-7125 fax
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From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Motorola NeXT compatible DSP cards for NS/FIP ?
Message-ID: <1993Jul30.092300.27759@pixar.com>
Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster)
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References: <1993Jul28.184123.19089@cs.yale.edu>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 09:23:00 GMT
In article <1993Jul28.184123.19089@cs.yale.edu>
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> In article <CAvq0p.Cr5@cs.vu.nl> mjh@cs.vu.nl (Huisjes MJ) writes:
> > Does anybody know of a Motorola NeXT compatible DSP card for NS/FIP ?
> > I know about the one from Ariel, it has the same dsp chip but there
> > are no drivers (yet) and it is quite expensive. Also there is a
company in
> > Berlin called Ilink which is trying to make a compatible card &
drivers for
> > NS/FIP, but they are not planning a release soon. Anybody else ?
>
> There was a small company at Expo that displayed an ISA DSP56001 card
> along with a great a/d/smpte box and software. I think it was Cambridge
> Soundworks, but I'm not sure.
>
Nathan has the general vicinity right, but Cambridge SoundWorks is a
speaker company (founded by Henry Kloss, founder of other great speaker
companies). Unfortunately, I've lost the mail from Charles Perkins which
had the name of this company. I remember sending e-mail to them after
Expo and never getting a reply, but Charles was quite excited about their
product.
Maybe Harvard Soundworks? shoot, I wish I could remember...
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cheap CD ROM Drive
Message-ID: <69785@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 29 Jul 93 16:28:39 GMT
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In article <234948$hm7@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> ta-sav2@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah) writes:
> Turns out these Nec CDR-25s are not Multisession capable, though they
> are single-session photo-cd compatible. They're a discontinued model
> that's been around for a few years. The question is, has anyone loaded
> NS from one of these drives? I'd like to get one, as it's so cheap.
a warning, be careful. make sure you can return it if it doesnt work.
I bought a different model cheap Nec CDR CD Rom drive. it was double
speed and multisession capable, but the NeXT turbo still wouldnt
recognize it. the tech support guy thought the cheap drive probably
didnt implement all the SCSI commands that the NeXT driver depended upon.
I cant remember the model number, it was from MacWarehouse and cost
about $300 about 4 weeks ago. it didnt even have external termination.
as far as I know, the better NEC drives work.
--
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tar@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com (Rimlinger Tim)
Subject: Problem in 1/4" tape on NeXTStation
Message-ID: <1993Jul30.114432.12191@knight.vf.ge.com>
Sender: news@knight.vf.ge.com
Organization: Martin Marietta M&DSO - VF
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 11:44:32 GMT
I have an 040 NeXTStation Color running NeXTStep 3.0 and am trying to interface a
generic SCSI 60 MB 1/4" cartrage tape drive previously attached to a Sun. The
system also has a 600MB internal SCSI disk and a 600MB external SCSI disk. After
connecting the tape drive and booting the machine I get the following bootup
messages:
for each sd2,3,4,5,6 I get:
sd2 at sc0 target 4 lun 5
ERROR: Invalid device block length of zero
sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved: 0x0, resid=0x1c48, retry 1
DISK UNFORMATTED
Then finally what I had wanted to see:
Rev as st0 at sc0 target 4 lun 0
After the machine comes up, I log in and get repeated dialog boxes,
The hard disk is unreadable
Ignore Initialize
I assume these are due to the system trying to access the tape as a disk during
bootup.
Anyway I try to read a tape using tar. After inserting a tape I issue the command:
tar tvf /dev/rst0
and get:
tar: tape read error: I/O error
and in the console:
st: cmd: 0x8 sr_io_status=2H
Sense Key=0x5 Sense Code=0x0
I found in NeXTAnswers, what I thought should be the fix, in hardware.762. This
fix executes an ioctl to set MTIOCFIXBLK for fixed sized block data transfers.
Initially I used a block size of 512. The same tar command tried to access
the tape and yielded:
tar: tape read error: I/O error
and in the console:
st: cmd=0x8 sr_io_status=2H
Sense Key=0x8 Sense Code 0x0
I also tried various block sizes in the ioctl, the Sense Key remained 0x8.
Any Ideas?
Thanks,
Tim
tar@mdso.vf.ge.com
From: corey@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Contractor - John Corey)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1993 20:00:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Zyxel modem order info?
Message-ID: <71670002@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
References: <227jn5$6rs@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I would be interested in the best price that people have found.
I know one person who got the basic model for $295. I remember
that earlier this year a company I worked with ordered one from
a reseller in Miss. for about $260.
Baker
baker@tciltd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: opus@ipnh.mv.com (David C. Jedlinsky)
Subject: Re: Motorola NeXT compatible DSP cards for NS/FIP ?
References: <1993Jul28.184123.19089@cs.yale.edu> <1993Jul30.092300.27759@pixar.com>
Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (Rob Chesler)
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 14:40:31 GMT
Message-ID: <CAzFFK.BsM@mv.mv.com>
In article <1993Jul30.092300.27759@pixar.com> wave@pixar.com writes:
>In article <1993Jul28.184123.19089@cs.yale.edu>
>nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>> In article <CAvq0p.Cr5@cs.vu.nl> mjh@cs.vu.nl (Huisjes MJ) writes:
>> > Does anybody know of a Motorola NeXT compatible DSP card for NS/FIP ?
>>
>> There was a small company at Expo that displayed an ISA DSP56001 card
>> along with a great a/d/smpte box and software. I think it was Cambridge
>> Soundworks, but I'm not sure.
>
>Maybe Harvard Soundworks? shoot, I wish I could remember...
>
Actually, it's Harvard ToolWorks, based in Harvard, MA. Naturally, I
don't have the phone number. I have the MaxAudio processor on order
from them, the demo at the Expo was quite impressive. It does A/D and
D/A, SMPTE (VITC and LTC), and MIDI I/O. It also has AES/EBU and
S/PDIF digital connectors.
In addition, they have a DSP56001 card for Intel machines; it's
waiting on a driver so that it will work with the SoundKit and
MusicKit.
>--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com
>--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
>--> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
-Dave Jedlinsky
opus@ipnh.mv.com
From: zeta@tcscs.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Updated information for TCS from vendors list
Message-ID: <2R5H8B2w165w@tcscs.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 93 09:03:12 CDT
Organization: TCS Consulting Services
I'm posting this followup to the original to update everyone's information
about TCS. TCS has moved and undergone a name change. We are now
TCS Computer Systems. The new information is below in the same format of
the original post. In case someone missed it I'm including the rest of the
list as well.
Company : TCS Computer Systems
Address : 25799B Madrone Drive; Willits, CA 95490
Phone : (707) 489-7500
Contact : Gregory Youngblood
email : info@tcscs.com
Sorry for the confusion.
And, here's the rest of the list...much thanks to Gregory Baratoff for
compiling this list and posting for the rest of us.
Company : Advance2000 Inc
Address : Buffalo, NY
Phone : 1-800-9ADVANCE
Contact : Doug or Brian
Company : Alpine Computing
Address : Salt Lake City, UT
Phone : (801) 268-8877
Contact : Kris Magnusson
Email : yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Kris' email)
Company : Continental Computer Systems
Address : Hartford, CT
Phone : 1-800-776-8649
Contact : Jim Pinto (sales, ext. 133)
Joe Bacher (NS support, ext. 137)
Company : GEC computers
Address :
Phone : 1-800-486-1500
Contact : Jeannie
Company : TCS Computer Systems
Address : 25799B Madrone Drive; Willits, CA 95490
Phone : (707) 489-7500
Contact : Gregory Youngblood
email : info@tcscs.com
Company : Tri-star Computers
Address : Chandler, AZ
Phone : (602) 961-3401
Contact : Bob Padua (ext. 4459) (call 1pm - 5pm)
Company : Workstation 2000
Address : Fallbrook, CA
Phone : (619) 723-4827
Fax : (619) 723-4392
Contact : Tim Finn
email : tfinn@cerf.net (might not work anymore)
Company : Gateway 2000
Phone : 1-800-846-2042
Contact : Andy Edlund (ext. 5401)
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From: jmh@iro.umontreal.ca (Jean-Marc Heneman)
Subject: ABATON SCAN 300/COLOR DRIVER NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Jul30.161229.11192@vlsi.polymtl.ca>
Summary: looking for NeXT driver
Keywords: NEXT MAC ABATON SCANNER DRIVER
Sender: news@vlsi.polymtl.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 16:12:29 GMT
I own a Abaton SCAN300/COLOR. I'm looking for technical info in order to
write a driver for NeXTSTEP for intel...
Does anybody know this hardware?
--
jmh
jean-marc heneman = jmh@info.polymtl.ca
if mail bounces, try jm_hene@pavo.concordia.ca or jmh@aircanada.ca
I prefer ASCII mail for now, but you can send me NextMail for attachment
__
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__/ / /
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Ethernet Cards and 3.1 - SMC vs. Intel - use Intel
Date: 30 Jul 1993 16:56:12 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23bjrc$3u7@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <CAy7DI.x0@oceania.com>
In article <CAy7DI.x0@oceania.com> john@oceania.com (John Robison) writes:
>[...]
> However, we did a bunch of testing with the two
> Ethernet cards we had in house, and found that
> the SMC Ethernet card works particularly poorly
> when running NeXTStep 3.1 for Intel.
>
> We ran the Intel cards with IRQ10 (a 16-bit
> slot configuration) with all settings
> except the IRQ at factory defaults. These cards
> *never* go "out to lunch", and seem to perform
> as good or better than the SMC cards.
Counterpoint: (never say never)
Ray Ghanbari (now at Mayo) has seen the Intel cards
'hang' on his NS/FIP box. He has reported this bug
to NeXT and NeXT has replied that a) it's a software
driver bug, and b) it's fixed for the next driver release.
However, under the currently shipping 3.1, the Intel card
will cause your Intel ethernet to hang under heavy packet load
(NXHosting to the Intel box from an app on a black box was the common
suspect load).
Just so you know, and in case Ray isn't listening...
- Geoff
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [Q] Gateway with ATI XLR video board
Date: 30 Jul 1993 18:04:21 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23bnr5$nkg@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Gateway is now shipping a difference video board instead of the the ATI
Ultra Pro (VL bus) in its 4dx2-66 systems. Its called the XLR. Any idea
if this works with Nextstep.
Damn I hate instance obsolesence, my machine is only 4 weeks old.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: johnw@vti.com (John Wiegley)
Subject: Re: Problem in 1/4" tape on NeXTStation
Message-ID: <CAzpxI.MtM@vti.com>
Organization: Virtual Technologies Inc.
References: <1993Jul30.114432.12191@knight.vf.ge.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 18:27:17 GMT
Rimlinger Tim (tar@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com) wrote:
> I have an 040 NeXTStation Color running NeXTStep 3.0 and am trying to interface a
> generic SCSI 60 MB 1/4" cartrage tape drive previously attached to a Sun. The
> system also has a 600MB internal SCSI disk and a 600MB external SCSI disk. After
> connecting the tape drive and booting the machine I get the following bootup
> messages:
>
> for each sd2,3,4,5,6 I get:
> sd2 at sc0 target 4 lun 5
> ERROR: Invalid device block length of zero
> sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved: 0x0, resid=0x1c48, retry 1
> DISK UNFORMATTED
>
> Then finally what I had wanted to see:
> Rev as st0 at sc0 target 4 lun 0
>
> After the machine comes up, I log in and get repeated dialog boxes,
>
> The hard disk is unreadable
> Ignore Initialize
This sounds like a SCSI ID collision.
> tar: tape read error: I/O error
> and in the console:
> st: cmd=0x8 sr_io_status=2H
> Sense Key=0x8 Sense Code 0x0
>
> I also tried various block sizes in the ioctl, the Sense Key remained 0x8.
I am having the EXACT same problem with my SCSI DAT drive. I've posted
this same question to 3 sources, but have gotten no reply whatsoever.
I've tried everything I can think of (even accessing the "sg0" driver),
but cannot fix this error.
That darn sense key 8 (which my utility says is "blank check", but which
is not documented anywhere in "nextdev/scsireg.h") is all I get out of
my SCSI tape drive too.
If you find any kind of answer to this question, PLEASE let me know.
I'll send you the source to a utility I pulled off from an FTP archive
that supposed to let you use SCSI tape drive wht NS2.1. It may work for
you, but it certainly hasn't worked for me.
John
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From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Ethernet Cards and 3.1 - SMC vs. Intel - use Intel
Date: 30 Jul 1993 19:49:12 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Message-ID: <23btvo$5l7@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <CAy7DI.x0@oceania.com>
In article <CAy7DI.x0@oceania.com> john@oceania.com (John Robison) writes:
..
>
> The bottom line: I recommend that people
> buy INTEL ethernet cards for NeXTStep computers
> running 3.1 NeXTStep. (If you have a choice.)
>
> My $0.02,
>
> John
> --
> John Robison |
> john@oceania.com | This Space Available
> NeXTMail Accepted. | Call: 555-SIGS
> Opinions are my own. |
Be careful out there. My machine (Intel GX/P with Intel EtherExpress
card) hangs hard every couple days, requiring a one-finger salute (reset
button on front of box). Of course, fsck'ing a 1Gb drive is not the most
fun thing to wait through, to say nothing of work lost. Unfortuately, a
couple times I've had to run fsck by hand to try to recover the disk,
which is even less fun.
It seems that there is a driver problem with the Intel EtherExpress driver
(according to someone from within NeXT) that it is due to a deadlock
problem between the CPU and the 82586, the LAN coprocessor on the
EtherExpress card. I see the problem most when running DPS intensive app
NXHost from a black machine, although heavy NFS load have also brought my
system down. About every two weeks or so, it seems to lock up without
much of a load at all. Only work around: don't send or receive packets
(yeah right)
A fixed driver is apparently in the works for 3.2, but I dearly hope that
NeXT can bump up their schedule and start getting driver fixes out there
(2 since early May when 3.1 got frozen doesn't seem like that many,
considering the advantage that DriverKit supposedly gives you) From my
perspective, having an ether net driver that crashes your machine hard
isn't too nice a feature on a UNIX box in a heavily networked environment.
--
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
ray@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: snk@pampero.ka.sub.org (Sebastian Kowalski)
Subject: Re: Problem in 1/4" tape on NeXTStation
Message-ID: <1993Jul30.204802.23890@pampero.ka.sub.org>
Sender: snk@pampero.ka.sub.org
Organization: Just another one's black hardware scene in Karlsruhe, Germany
References: <1993Jul30.114432.12191@knight.vf.ge.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 20:48:02 GMT
In article <1993Jul30.114432.12191@knight.vf.ge.com>
tar@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com (Rimlinger Tim) writes:
> I have an 040 NeXTStation Color running NeXTStep 3.0 and am trying to
interface a
> generic SCSI 60 MB 1/4" cartrage tape drive previously attached to a
Sun. The
> system also has a 600MB internal SCSI disk and a 600MB external SCSI
disk. After
> connecting the tape drive and booting the machine I get the following
bootup
> messages:
>
> for each sd2,3,4,5,6 I get:
> sd2 at sc0 target 4 lun 5
> ERROR: Invalid device block length of zero
> sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved: 0x0, resid=0x1c48,
retry 1
> DISK UNFORMATTED
>
> Then finally what I had wanted to see:
> Rev as st0 at sc0 target 4 lun 0
>
> After the machine comes up, I log in and get repeated dialog boxes,
>
> The hard disk is unreadable
> Ignore Initialize
>
> I assume these are due to the system trying to access the tape as a disk
during
> bootup.
>
> Anyway I try to read a tape using tar. After inserting a tape I issue
the command:
>
> tar tvf /dev/rst0
> and get:
> tar: tape read error: I/O error
> and in the console:
> st: cmd: 0x8 sr_io_status=2H
> Sense Key=0x5 Sense Code=0x0
>
> I found in NeXTAnswers, what I thought should be the fix, in
hardware.762. This
> fix executes an ioctl to set MTIOCFIXBLK for fixed sized block data
transfers.
> Initially I used a block size of 512. The same tar command tried to
access
> the tape and yielded:
>
> tar: tape read error: I/O error
> and in the console:
> st: cmd=0x8 sr_io_status=2H
> Sense Key=0x8 Sense Code 0x0
>
> I also tried various block sizes in the ioctl, the Sense Key remained
0x8.
>
> Any Ideas?
>
I've got the same problem and give it up. The problem is that the scsi
controller of the tapedrive (my one was a EMULEX MT02) seems incompatible
with the standards required for NeXT. On a BSD kernel, you can add the
required parameters for this controller in a file named
/sys/scsi/targets/st_conf.c and rebuild the kernel. But i don't know about
doing something like this with NeXT's mach kernel.
The errors after setting the driver to fixed blocksize are results of
communication errors on the scsi bus.
--
Sebastian Kowalski, Karlsruhe, Germany | snk@pampero.ka.sub.org (NeXTMail OK)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How to run a headless cube?
Date: 30 Jul 1993 23:02:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23c9a8$9r9@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <23afsg$87a@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
In article <23afsg$87a@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) writes:
>The secret is is an old SupportBulletin. Older cubes, before a certain
>serial number actually REQUIRED the load of the monitor in order to
>function. Thus you need to get a new power supply.
Or put a dummy load and heat your coffee mug.
Should be cheaper than a new power supply.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Epson can't do 1120x832...Help!!!
Message-ID: <1993Jul30.181329.70589@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 30 Jul 93 18:13:29 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
I recently received a number of Epson progression machines. I got the new
Wingine driver from NeXT and I am trying to get the Epson to use the higher
(1120x832) resolution. I am using a Nanao FlexScan T560i 17" monitor (A VERY
nice monitor by the way), and it is definately capable of up to 1280x1024. I
have tried all of the refresh rates...but it still will not work. The top half
of the screen looks great, but the bottom half is either shifted over about
half a screen to the right, or else its just garbage. Has anyone gotten their
Epson to use the higher resolution? If so, how? Help...this is a tad annoying
to be mild.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
John Zollinger
slv0y@cc.usu.edu
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Date: 29 Jul 1993 08:54:30 -0000
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <238386$1bg@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <233glt$sv0@hub.ucsb.edu>
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
uprao@mcl.ucsb.edu (Parik Rao) writes:
>>To summarize, my requirements are:
>> 24-32 MB RAM (expandable to 64MB)
>This pretty much forces you to EISA. With ISA, you have too many
>compatibility problems if you want to add more than 16 megs (ISA
>has a 24 bit DMA line, which means DMA transfers can only see 16
>megs. Some machines do all sorts of hokey things to get around this,
>but it usually ends up not working -- the extra RAM is either a RAM
>disk or useless).
This is not true in general. ISA/VLB boards like mine (ST) don't have
problems with RAM above 16 MB either (I have 32 and it works great).
It really depends on the board's design, and of course EISA never worries
with RAM above 16 MB, but ISA needn't, if you got a good board.
>>The requirement of being NeXTSTEP compatible is desirable, but I am
>>willing to forgo that one for speed (I can *always* learn another
>>operating system).
>Make sure you're getting a good motherboard, no matter what. Good un's
>are Micronics, AMI Enterprise III's, Hippo IV's from Ocean [got one,
>its awesome!], and NICE Super-EISA's (avoid their mini-EISA, it bites).
The Micronics board is rumoured not to work with NS/I. Correct me if
anyone is out there who got it running.
Regards, Markus.
--
/dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart
/usr/spool/mail mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
~/.ircrc/nick Marsu
/etc/motd NeXTSTEP for Cray computers? Where? When?? How???
From: paul@traveler.com (Paul Goldstone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Request Info regarding Active Teminators
Message-ID: <23csv1$b6m@pnext.traveler.com>
Date: 31 Jul 93 04:37:53 GMT
Sender: paul@pnext.traveler.com
Organization: Hoopy Froods, Inc.
I have an 040 Cube, running 3.0. Currently on the system is a scanner (Scan-X
Professional), two hard disks both within the Cube (a 1.2 gig Maxtor and a 1.6
gig Seagate) and a Sony 128 Mag Optical. If I attempt to add any other SCSI
devices to the system the SCSI chain fails. I have made every effort to keep
the SCSI chain to a minimum length. It totals about 2 meters long. It has been
suggested that I try using Active Terminators. Might someone explain to me
what are Active Terminators, where there can be purchased or shed any other
light on this problem? It would be greatly appreciated! I certainly will
summarize if the responses seem to warrant it.
Thanks in advance,
--
Paul Goldstone
paul@traveler.com
--
Paul Goldstone
paul@traveler.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lutzray@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Lutz Raymond)
Subject: Internal CDROM drive in a Cube?
Message-ID: <1993Jul31.042903.28283@cc.umontreal.ca>
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 04:29:03 GMT
Bonjour,
I plan to buy a CDROM drive for my cube, probably
the T-3401 from Toshiba, because it can transmit
CD musical data through its SCSI interface (the
Apple 300CD drive too). Here are my questions:
What are the differences between an external and an
internal drive?
internal = external - box - power supply ?
Does an internal CDROM drives fit into the cube, just
behind the extinct MO aperture? Is this hole big enough
for the CD drawer? What about power? Does internal SCSI
drives are powered by the computer power supply?
My problem is that I know nothing about drives
and would like an internal one for my cube, ordering
an external drive would be less complicated and safer
but less fun !
What a sleek CD player it would be! it would fit nicely
aside my *black* Bang & Olufsen system 8^)
Well... I don't have a B&O system, the fan is too
noisy, and I'm more interested in a DAT player...
merci!
Raymond Lutz
etudiant 2e cycle
departement de physique, etat solide,
Universite de Montreal
lutzray@ERE.UMontreal.CA (ascii only)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby)
Subject: Any word on the new FIP serial Drivers
Message-ID: <1993Jul30.070908.4042@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 07:09:08 GMT
Has anyone heard anything more about the new serial driver.
These ones seem "unsafe at any speed". Ive got the modem running at 2400,
and while it last longer between craches, It still does crash. We need to have
the serial port drivers RSN, or our customers will go with something else.
No e-mail on a UNIX machine is sad
Rick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jbardt@trumpet.calpoly.edu (Joshua Bardt (3josh))
Subject: Re: Kensington Trackballs
Message-ID: <1993Jul31.080850.197710@zeus.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
References: <2318b2$1ie@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 08:08:50 GMT
In article <2318b2$1ie@news.mic.ucla.edu>,
Ivo Welch <iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu> wrote:
>
>Do Kensington trackballs work with NS/FIP?
>
>/ivo welch
Also - the bus card that comes with the bus verion of the Kensington Turbo
mouse let you set the irq to justs about anything (8 or 16 bit irq). Does
this card work under NS486? Under all irq settings, or only the 8 bit ones?
thanks..
josh
jbardt@oboe.calpoly.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Motorola NeXT compatible DSP cards for NS/FIP ?
Message-ID: <CAyovt.2HH@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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References: <1993Jul28.184123.19089@cs.yale.edu>
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 05:07:04 GMT
#There was a small company at Expo that displayed an ISA DSP56001 card
#along with a great a/d/smpte box and software. I think it was Cambridge
#Soundworks, but I'm not sure.
#
#--
#Nathan Janette
#Systems Manager, Axel T. Brunger Lab
It was Harvard Toolworks in Harvard, MA.
Telephone 508-772-4420
Email is whs@magdalen.dmc.com - his name is Bill Southworth
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: How to run a headless cube?
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Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <23c9a8$9r9@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 07:16:57 GMT
In article <23c9a8$9r9@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi
Ohzawa) writes:
#In article <23afsg$87a@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
writes:
#
#>The secret is is an old SupportBulletin. Older cubes, before a certain
#>serial number actually REQUIRED the load of the monitor in order to
#>function. Thus you need to get a new power supply.
#
#Or put a dummy load and heat your coffee mug.
#Should be cheaper than a new power supply.
That's what I figured I'd do if I ever lost my mono monitor.
I'd put a soundbox for the keyboard and a dummy load to imitate the
mono monitor.
Well I now have a spare monitor, keyboard, mouse, and monitor cable so I guess
I don't need to worry anymore.
Kent
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From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Ethernet Cards and 3.1 - SMC vs. Intel - use Intel
Message-ID: <1993Jul30.160356.2128@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <CAy7DI.x0@oceania.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1993 16:03:56 GMT
In article <CAy7DI.x0@oceania.com> john@oceania.com (John Robison) writes:
> [That he has found Intel Ethernet cards to work better than SMC cards
> when running NEXTSTEP].
I've formed the same opinion. However, SMC has just introduced a
completely new card, so I'll reserve judgement until I can test it.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kevins@bmd.com
Subject: Mouse pinouts; FAQ I'm sure
Message-ID: <1993Jul31.095223.16492@bmd.com>
Sender: kevins@bmd.com (Kevin Solie)
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc.
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 09:52:23 GMT
I am interested in changing the mouse on my NEXTSTATION Color. Anyone happen to
know the pinouts so I can add a PS/2 (serial I guess) type mouse???
--
I'll cross my heart and hope to die
but the needle's already in my eye.
Kevin Solie
--
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but the needle's already in my eye.
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From: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu (David Meyer)
Subject: flickering monitor on color NeXTstation
Message-ID: <CB1HBp.ED@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 17:16:36 GMT
The monitor on my color 'station just started jumping around and
flickering. It will flicker for a few seconds, then stop for a while,
then flicker again. As far as I've been able to tell, the intervals
are completely random. a) Is there anything I can do to fix it
myself? b) Is there anything I can do to keep it from getting worse?
c) Why is it happening?
Thanks,
Dave
--
David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
NeXTmail ok
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SVGA mode with ET4000 on an ISA
Date: 31 Jul 1993 16:38:34 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23e76aINNnpu@clem.handheld.com>
References: <1993Jul28.194706.907@sgcl1.unisg.ch>
In article <1993Jul28.194706.907@sgcl1.unisg.ch> ckuhn@sgcl1.unisg.ch writes:
> Hi
>
> I have a Tseng Lag ET4000 card on my machine with 1 MB of memory, but
> unfortunatley I can only run NeXT successfully in VGA mode. When I install
the
> ET4000 driver, the screen flickers (strong) when it changes to graphics
mode.
>
> I have a NEC multysync 5D monitor which supports all the graphic levels of my
> card (I have verified that under DOS with a demo program).
>
> Does the ET4000 driver only support a certain ROM date of the Tseng cards or
> only from a special manufacturer?
>
Most ET4000 cards I tried do NOT work. Most seem to lack a source of clock
high enough to drive the big display in NON-interlaced mode. The Diamond
Speedstar was the only one that worked for me. I got mine from Kris Magnusson,
who can be reached at (801) 268-8877 at Alpine Computing MicroAge during MDST
business hours. Or as <yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu>. Price and delivery were fine.
He builds NS/FIP systems, and so has tested what he sells in the "right"
environment!
> Thank you for any replies.
>
>
> Christoph Kuhn
> IWI_4
> University of St. Gallen
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From: bobf@milne.geology.yale.edu (Bob Fischer)
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Message-ID: <1993Aug1.004010.3485@cs.yale.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <93207.141400NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <233glt$sv0@hub.ucsb.edu> <233pst$no0@nic.umass.edu> <del.744015553@ss1>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 00:40:10 GMT
The best way to see if system X works with NeXTSTEP is to call NeXT.
They also publish a NeXT hardware compatibility guide.
--- Bob
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Saturday, 31 Jul 1993 19:18:15 PST
From: <NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Message-ID: <93212.191815NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: EISA-VLB
I'm looking to purchase an EISA + VESA LB system to run NS/FIP. Can anybody
recommend motherboards, and machines which use them? I have heard that the
Micronics EISA-VLB board that Gateway has just started using does not work
with NS due to a keyboard problem. Anybody know anything about this??
Thanks in advance.
Nick Walker
SLAC, Stanford University, CA
voice (415) 926-3677
fax (408) 253-4733
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Saturday, 31 Jul 1993 19:24:44 PST
From: <NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Message-ID: <93212.192444NICK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Many Thanks (was Choosing a 486DX2/66
Many many thanks to all the people who responded to my post. All
the information was very useful, and some of it (inevitably) contradictory!
I will try (as promised) to post some sort of summary in the next few weeks.
Thanks again.
Nick Walker
SLAC, Stanford University, CA
voice (415) 926-3677
FAX (408) 253-4733
From: corey@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Contractor - John Corey)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 01:56:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Hardware For email site?
Message-ID: <71670003@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
References: <1993Jul19.022240.18873@cs.su.oz.au>
Understand that the only way to get a "nice" interface is to have
a single user workstation. The serial ports, etc. can be used with
terminal sessions but then the users have to understand mail from
the command line. If the email messages are not straight ascii (or
uuencoded, etc.) then terminals will not be very friendly (are they
anyways?).
Baker
baker@tciltd.com
PS. Never having been to Aus I am not sure but I doubt that it really makes
any difference when it comes to a internet mail connection. You need a
feed and you do not want to spend a great deal of money. Common problems
around the world. Solved for a price everywhere.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: SCSI Cards, DMA and more than 16 Megabytes of RAM...
Message-ID: <1993Aug1.052747.8990@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 05:27:47 GMT
I have heard that using a SCSI card with more than 16 Megs of RAM doesn't
work on ISA machines because the DMA addresses are only 24 bits. I have also
heard info contrary to this. Could someone with experience tell me?
thanks,
greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Epson can't do 1120x832...Help!!!
Message-ID: <bchin.744136497@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1993Jul30.181329.70589@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1993 16:34:57 GMT
slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes:
>I recently received a number of Epson progression machines. I got the new
>Wingine driver from NeXT and I am trying to get the Epson to use the higher
>(1120x832) resolution. I am using a Nanao FlexScan T560i 17" monitor (A VERY
>nice monitor by the way), and it is definately capable of up to 1280x1024. I
>have tried all of the refresh rates...but it still will not work. The top half
>of the screen looks great, but the bottom half is either shifted over about
>half a screen to the right, or else its just garbage. Has anyone gotten their
>Epson to use the higher resolution? If so, how? Help...this is a tad annoying
>to be mild.
Here at ANDI we saw the same problem when we upgraded our driver yesterday.
I had thought it was because we had a pre-production machine. Has
anyone tried the Lucky Goldstar 1120x832 driver?
--
Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc.
VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group
Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Connor 540MB Drive and NS Intel
Message-ID: <1993Jul31.221419.18257@pencom.com>
Date: 31 Jul 93 22:14:19 GMT
References: <CAr1o6.23t@ripple.uunet>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (Usenet Pseudo User)
Organization: Pencom Software
In article <CAr1o6.23t@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
writes:
>
> I'm having some trouble with a Conner 540MB (503MB formatted) IDE Drive.
> It's the CP30544, it is 1" high and seems quite fast under DOS... but I
can't
> get it to work with NeXTSTEP.
>
> The machine is an Intel GX/66 with it as the Master IDE drive, all the
setting
> are correct on the machine. We have installed NS on a whole bunch of GXs,
but
> we have always used MAXTOR drives this was the first Conner experiment...
and
> is failing.
>
> NS install phase one just fine, did the fix for the DMA, now tried to boot
off
> of the drive and nothing.
>
> It does the:
> NeXT boot1 v.1.17
>
> then seems to lock up, seems is the key word, it continues to boot at a
snail's
> pace (we are talking hours here) while loading the kernel each "+" takes
about
> 15min. Then it can't find some table and finally boots in single user mode,
> but this takes about 4 hours to get to that phase. The IDE light stays on
the
> whole time.
>
> I have now removed all boards and nothing has changed.
>
> The Conner has a bunch of jumpers, I assume that one (or more) is
incorrectly
> set.
>
> If anyone has this drive working, please send me the jumper setting.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dirk Fromhein
> df@watershed.com
> Watershed technologies, inc.
Those were the first drives we tried to use on some of our Intel GX boxes.
The problem is not NEXTSTEP but the BIOS in the Intel GX which is incompatible
with those drives.
The weird thing is that the machine is not locked up. The operating system
will eventually install and load. It takes about 24 hours. I'm not
kidding!!! Once the BIOS loads the operating system everything works fine.
But you have to go through this pain every time you reboot. 24 hours, I'm not
kidding. I even tried to install DOS 6.0 and the same exact thing happened.
We ended up returning those drives. We called Conner and they confirmed to us
that it was a bug in the Phoenix BIOS that was causing the incompatibility.
Then we call Phoenix BIOS and they did not have a fix for it. That was long
time ago, so they might have a fix for it.
Ricardo J. Parada
Pencom Software
Austin, Texas
From: traupman-jonathan@yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Q] Gateway with ATI XLR video board
Date: 1 Aug 1993 18:20:46 -0400
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23hfjuINN6oh@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>
References: <23bnr5$nkg@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Keywords: video, XLR, ATI, Gateway
In article <23bnr5$nkg@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
>Gateway is now shipping a difference video board instead of the the ATI
>Ultra Pro (VL bus) in its 4dx2-66 systems. Its called the XLR. Any idea
>if this works with Nextstep.
>
>
>Damn I hate instance obsolesence, my machine is only 4 weeks old.
>
>
>--
>Jerry S. Weiss
>j-weiss@nwu.edu
>Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
>%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
I called ATI one day last week and asked them about the XLR card that
Gateway was advertising. The salesperson I spoke to said she had never heard of an
XLR card and said that ATI certainly wasn't selling one. There also was no info on
it on ATI's FaxBack line. Therefore, I suspect this may be just a fancy name Gateway
is using for their mach32 based VLB video card.
Jon
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From: jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: floppy drive and '030 board wanted
Message-ID: <1993Aug2.034813.706@Princeton.EDU>
Date: 2 Aug 93 03:48:13 GMT
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster
Hi! I am still looking for a floppy drive for my cube. I have no room left
inside the cube, however, so am looking at my options. I can either buy an
external scsi drive or an internal one with a separate case. If I buy
another case, I can hopefully place other devices into it as well, cutting
down the cost of buying a CD-ROM drive, another SCSI HD, etc. Has anyone
used a PC case for such a purpose? Good/bad experiences or suggestions?
I am thinking of a baby tower or some such box with a power supply.
I know little about this, so don't even know if this is ffeasible/prudent.
I also have an OD in the cube, which is useless since the 33Mhz 040 board
(I believe) doesn't support the OD. If anyone is selling an 030 board
*really* cheaply, I am considering purchasing one just to control the OD.
Let me know if you have such a beast for sale.
Thanks much!
-jeff
--
"His eyes were eggs of unstable crystal, vibrating with a frequency whose
name was rain and the sound of trains, suddenly sprouting a humming
forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
####################################################################
From: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Epson can't do 1120x832...Help!!!
Date: 2 Aug 1993 13:44:10 GMT
Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, TX
Message-ID: <23j5na$gdj@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
References: <1993Jul30.181329.70589@cc.usu.edu> <bchin.744136497@news.andi.org>
In article <bchin.744136497@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes:
>
>>I recently received a number of Epson progression machines. I got the new
>>Wingine driver from NeXT and I am trying to get the Epson to use the higher
>>(1120x832) resolution. I am using a Nanao FlexScan T560i 17" monitor (A VERY
>>nice monitor by the way), and it is definately capable of up to 1280x1024. I
>>have tried all of the refresh rates...but it still will not work. The top half
>>of the screen looks great, but the bottom half is either shifted over about
>>half a screen to the right, or else its just garbage. Has anyone gotten their
>>Epson to use the higher resolution? If so, how? Help...this is a tad annoying
>>to be mild.
>
>Here at ANDI we saw the same problem when we upgraded our driver yesterday.
>I had thought it was because we had a pre-production machine. Has
>anyone tried the Lucky Goldstar 1120x832 driver?
>
>bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Before reading this message I was very close to ordering an Epson
system to run Nextstep. Other than this (hopefully transient) problem
with the Wingine driver, are people generally pleased with the Epson
machine? Would you recommend it to someone else over other 486s
running Nextstep?
Thanks,
rick
--
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Houston, Tx 77030 | Phone:(713)798-3346|Internet: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
NeXTMail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: Motorola NeXT compatible DSP cards for NS/FIP ?
Message-ID: <CB47H9.7sL@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Keywords: dsp,fip,ariel,ilink
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <CAvq0p.Cr5@cs.vu.nl>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 04:36:44 GMT
In article <CAvq0p.Cr5@cs.vu.nl> mjh@cs.vu.nl (Huisjes MJ) writes:
>Does anybody know of a Motorola NeXT compatible DSP card for NS/FIP ?
>I know about the one from Ariel, it has the same dsp chip but there
>are no drivers (yet) and it is quite expensive. Also there is a company in
>Berlin called Ilink which is trying to make a compatible card & drivers for
>NS/FIP, but they are not planning a release soon. Anybody else ?
>
>Something with drivers is preferred.
>
>PS. We actually used the DSP to transfer a real time full duplex 2Mb PCM stream
> from/to the NeXT computer. If you have ideas how to accomplice this
> another way, let me know.
>
>Thanks, Maarten.
>--
>Maarten Huisjes. mjh@cs.vu.nl (192.31.231.42)
> (..!uunet.uu.net!cs.vu.nl!mjh)
The i-link card is not a full replacement for the Motorola facilities in
its present incarnation because it only runs at 8Khz sample rate. They may up
the sample rate.
Harvard Toolworks (91 Ann Lee Road, Harvard, MA 01451, USA, 508-772-4420 Fax
508-772-4603 have a full replacement board in final stages of
prototyping.
The problem with both boards is that NeXT's Driver Kit does not provide
a generic Sound Driver. One is promised for 3.2. But then there's the
problem of integrating all the DSP functions into the current
Sound Kit and Music Kit.
I believe both companies have looked at writing (or getting written) custom
Mach drivers, but so far nothing seems to be available. We hope to get
something as soon as it is available. We'd be interested in you come
up with other products. There's a real need.
david
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From: mjulku@cs.joensuu.fi (Mikko Julku)
Subject: Re: Any problems with SIS chipset + ATI GUP?
Message-ID: <1993Aug2.140305.19225@cs.joensuu.fi>
Organization: University of Joensuu
References: <236v7gINNila@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> <1993Jul29.060028.11428@sol.UVic.CA>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 14:03:05 GMT
dmanke@sanjuan (Dennis Manke) writes:
>In article <236v7gINNila@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen) writes:
>>
>>The subject says it all. I'm considering buying a motherboard with this
>>chipset, either EISA or VL-bus, and connecting an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro
>>2MB version. Any experiences with NSI with this configuration?
>>
>>Ari
>>
>I'm curious too. I believe I'll be buying a SIS based system soon.
I have experienced the Diamond Stealth VLB card w/S3 805 doesn't work with
SIS chip set in windows. Ok, called to local Stealth importer where I was told
the SIS , UMC and XXX chip set companies has difficulties with these chip sets.
I do not remember the XXX company, sorry, but it is not OPTI, because now the
Stealth works fine with OPTI chip set.
The problems were: sudden lockups, memory parity errors ( SIMMs were changed 3
times, and now same SIMMs are in use at OPTI equipped mother board), flashes at
screen etc.
Ok, all my expenriences were with ONE brand of motherboard, but ...
DO not flame me for this.
>Dennis dmanke@sanjuan.uvic.ca
mjulku@cs.joensuu.fi mjulku@tolsun.oulu.fi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Epson can't do 1120x832...Help!!!
Message-ID: <1993Aug1.185940.7208@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Jul30.181329.70589@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 18:59:40 GMT
In article <1993Jul30.181329.70589@cc.usu.edu> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes:
> I recently received a number of Epson progression machines. I got the
new
> Wingine driver from NeXT and I am trying to get the Epson to use the
higher
> (1120x832) resolution.
Epson used to make a machine called the Progression which was large and
had five ISA slots on the motherboard. Now they make a machine called the
NX which is smaller and has four ISA slots mounts on a daughterboard.
There has been confusion because Epson was marketing something called a
Progression NX (I never could figure out what that was). Anyway, the new
video driver only works with the NX--the Progression uses a RAMDAC which
is incapable of 1120x832.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Message-ID: <1993Aug1.214458.7599@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug1.004010.3485@cs.yale.edu>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 21:44:58 GMT
In article <1993Aug1.004010.3485@cs.yale.edu> bobf@milne.geology.yale.edu
(Bob Fischer) writes:
> The best way to see if system X works with NeXTSTEP is to call NeXT.
Not quite true. There are many systems which work that NeXT has not
tested. The best way to see if system X works with NEXTSTEP is to test it.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: jblevins@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Jim Blevins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <JBLEVINS.93Jul27115101@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
Control: cancel <JBLEVINS.93Jul27115101@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
Date: 2 Aug 93 16:28:43
Organization: University of Western Australia
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller)
Subject: Re: Internal CDROM drive in a Cube?
Message-ID: <L7XFB55D@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <1993Jul31.042903.28283@cc.umontreal.ca>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 15:20:32 GMT
Lutz Raymond (lutzray@ERE.UMontreal.CA) wrote:
: Bonjour,
: I plan to buy a CDROM drive for my cube, probably
: the T-3401 from Toshiba, because it can transmit
: CD musical data through its SCSI interface (the
: Apple 300CD drive too). Here are my questions:
: What are the differences between an external and an
: internal drive?
: internal = external - box - power supply ?
Quite correct.
: Does an internal CDROM drives fit into the cube, just
: behind the extinct MO aperture? Is this hole big enough
: for the CD drawer? What about power? Does internal SCSI
: drives are powered by the computer power supply?
: My problem is that I know nothing about drives
: and would like an internal one for my cube, ordering
: an external drive would be less complicated and safer
: but less fun !
I've put the NeXT CD-ROM out of its box and in my cube, while
I didn't have an OD (my old one's gone ...). It fits perfectly.
And looks great! If I remember properly the only drawback was the
eject button - I think it was hidden, but I'm not sure. For the
couple of weeks the software eject worked fine...
That might get you into trouble some time. But for that beauty
I'm sure you'll find a work around.
You can get the Apple CD - internally its the same as the NeXT CD-ROM.
Only the lid isn't black - nothing some black paint can't help.
BTW, there's a reference for the black color to use in the NeXT answers
I think.
: What a sleek CD player it would be! it would fit nicely
: aside my *black* Bang & Olufsen system 8^)
: Well... I don't have a B&O system, the fan is too
: noisy, and I'm more interested in a DAT player...
: merci!
Have fun with it!
Meinrad
--
Meinrad Zeller
Foehrenweg 1
D-37077 Goettingen
Tel.: +49-551-300095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: blaine@catt.ncsu.edu (Grey Mull)
Subject: SOUND BOX: how to open?
Message-ID: <blaine-020893123642@catgw05.catt.ncsu.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: NCSU Computer and Technologies
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 16:36:51 GMT
How do I open my NeXT sound box???
Grey Mull ***********************************************
V.P. Conservative Society * If you voted for CHANGE... *
North Carolina State U. * then you better start counting it! *
blaine@catt.ncsu.edu ***********************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Subject: Looking for that Turbo ND summary article...
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 17:54:37 GMT
Message-ID: <CB58F1.Hqx@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Keywords: NreXT, NeXTdimension, summaries
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Help!
I'm sure I'm not losing my mind; I read a fine summary article about the
Turbo NeXTdimensions in one of the NeXT newsgroups and now I can't find
it! (Probably the only article in weeks I haven't saved, too.) Will the
author, or some other kind soul, please e-mail me this item?
Thanx!!
Steve Weintz
scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: katzung@swissbank.com (Brian Katzung)
Subject: Re: Ethernet Cards and 3.1 - SMC vs. Intel - use Intel
Message-ID: <1993Aug2.180605.10370@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
References: <CAy7DI.x0@oceania.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 18:06:05 GMT
John Robison writes
> However, we did a bunch of testing with the two
> Ethernet cards we had in house, and found that
> the SMC Ethernet card works particularly poorly
> when running NeXTStep 3.1 for Intel.
>
> We ran the Intel cards with IRQ10 (a 16-bit
> slot configuration) with all settings
> except the IRQ at factory defaults. These cards
> *never* go "out to lunch", and seem to perform
> as good or better than the SMC cards.
>
> So, (I wish *I* had known this earlier) to help
> those of you faced with deciding between two almost
> equally priced cards, go with the Intel!
I did some testing using the "ttcp" tools. For the parameters I was
using, I found that the Intel hung quite consistently, while the SMC
did not.
-- Brian Katzung
Disclaimer: The views expressed are my own, and do not necessarily
reflect those of my employer, my clients, or anybody else.
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ZyXEL upgrade?
Date: 2 Aug 1993 08:28:49 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <23ij81$10h@localhost.dk>
Keywords: Eproms
Hi World
I ve got a ZyXEL U1496E,which works ok most of the time, but once in a
while it fails me in strange.
I ve been recommended to upgrade the eproms inside to a newer version,
since mine is version 4.09h.
Did anyone of you upgrade, and if so, how did you go about it, did you
email the ZyXEL Corporation, and if, do you have an email address, that I
can use? Or did you purchase the eproms from some retailer, and if so,
could you let me have an address or a phone number?
Thanks a lot in advance
Best regards
Michael
PS. Email me if you like that better!
---
_____________________________________________
Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark
NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk
NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com
Voice: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
Fax: Int + 45 43 53 34 33
_____________________________________________
From: me@galois.uoregon.edu (My Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SoundBox FORSALE
Date: 2 Aug 1993 19:28:27 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Message-ID: <23jpsr$b1g@pith.uoregon.edu>
I have one sound box forsale. I have a ND with two monitors so I have
never even touched this little beauty.
Make an offer. I am interested in Soft PC. Maybe a trade can be
arranged. Let me know.
Boyd
From: tyfung@uclink.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help needed on bootup of NXstation
Date: 2 Aug 1993 19:35:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <23jqan$j11@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi,
Recently, my NeXTstation no longer boots up automatically when
I press the Power key. Instead, I am taken to the ROM Monitor, with the
message :
Exception #3(0xc) at 0x1000374
I can bootup by typing bsd in the ROM Monitor, however.
Help is appreciated. Thanks.
From: kimmel@nic.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel,A155 LGRC,(413) 545-1607,)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to autolaunch CDPlayer when audio CD inserted?
Date: 2 Aug 1993 16:24:01 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts/Amherst
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23jf31$piu@nic.umass.edu>
Hi,
I recently bought a used NeXTcube, which came with NS3.0 installed. I attached
an Apple CD300 CD-ROM drive to it, and found that when I inserted an audio CD,
the CDPlayer app launched automatically. Then I re-installed NS3.0 from scratch,
including the Demonstration package (i.e. the CDPlayer app and the cdaudio.fs
stuff), and CDPlayer will now no longer autolaunch as before. When I insert an
audio CD, it gets ejected (after a bit of disk activity) and in console.log I
get "cdaudio.util: could not open CDPlayer". I've tried making symlinks to
/NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer in some obvious places (/LocalLibrary
and /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs), but nothing works. How do I get autolaunching
of CDPlayer to work again??
Thanks!
-Matt
--
Matt Kimmel Networking Assistant Univ. of Mass.
E-mail: kimmel@nic.umass.edu Phone: (413) 545-1607
Fax: (413) 545-3203
------------ Opinions! Hundreds of 'em! And all MINE!! -------------
From: mek@twain.ucs.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to autolaunch CDPlayer when audio CD inserted?
Date: 2 Aug 1993 14:45:25 -0400
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <23jnc5INN8ue@twain.ucs.umass.edu>
Hi,
I recently bought a used NeXTcube, which came with NS3.0 installed. I attached
an Apple CD300 CD-ROM drive to it, and found that when I inserted an audio CD,
the CDPlayer app launched automatically. Then I re-installed NS3.0 from scratch,
including the Demonstration package (i.e. the CDPlayer app and the cdaudio.fs
stuff), and CDPlayer will now no longer autolaunch as before. When I insert an
audio CD, it gets ejected (after a bit of disk activity) and in console.log I
get "cdaudio.util: could not open CDPlayer". I've tried making symlinks to
/NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer in some obvious places (/LocalLibrary
and /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs), but nothing works. How do I get autolaunching
of CDPlayer to work again??
Thanks!
-Matt
--
Matt Kimmel Networking Assistant Univ. of Mass.
E-mail: kimmel@nic.umass.edu Phone: (413) 545-2690
From: kimmel@nic.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel,A155 LGRC,(413) 545-1607,)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to autolaunch CDPlayer.app when audio CD inserted?
Date: 2 Aug 1993 17:56:40 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts/Amherst
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23jkgo$rmu@nic.umass.edu>
Hi,
I recently bought a used NeXTcube, which came with NS3.0 installed. I attached
an Apple CD300 CD-ROM drive to it, and found that when I inserted an audio CD,
the CDPlayer app launched automatically. Then I re-installed NS3.0 from scratch,
including the Demonstration package (i.e. the CDPlayer app and the cdaudio.fs
stuff), and CDPlayer will now no longer autolaunch as before. When I insert an
audio CD, it gets ejected (after a bit of disk activity) and in console.log I
get "cdaudio.util: could not open CDPlayer". I've tried making symlinks to
/NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer in some obvious places (/LocalLibrary
and /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs), but nothing works. How do I get autolaunching
of CDPlayer to work again??
Thanks!
-Matt
--
Matt Kimmel Networking Assistant Univ. of Mass.
E-mail: kimmel@nic.umass.edu Phone: (413) 545-1607
Fax: (413) 545-3203
------------ Opinions! Hundreds of 'em! And all MINE!! -------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: [Q] Gateway with ATI XLR video board
Message-ID: <Aug2.203118.58312@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 20:31:18 GMT
References: <23bnr5$nkg@news.acns.nwu.edu> <23hfjuINN6oh@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: video, XLR, ATI, Gateway
> I called ATI one day last week and asked them about the XLR
> card that Gateway was advertising. The salesperson I spoke to
> said she had never heard of an XLR card and said that ATI
> certainly wasn't selling one.
Call again and ask about the differences between the Mach32 rev 3
and the recently released rev 6a. The newer revision supports
fewer wait-states and therefore should be 60-100% faster than the
older rev 3 for direct memory writes... the only way NeXTSTEP
uses the chipset. OEM suppliers can call boards based on it
anything they want to, and obviously Gateway wanted to
differentiate the newer boards from the older, slower boards.
Intel will be releasing a new version of the GX/Professional that
incorporates the rev 6a chipset, too. It should be incorporated
into machines made this month.
On the other hand, I haven't talked to anyone who has tried the
rev 6a chipset with NeXTSTEP.
> There also was no info on it on ATI's FaxBack line. Therefore,
> I suspect this may be just a fancy name Gateway is using for
> their mach32 based VLB video card.
.. but a fancy name that makes a significant performance
difference!
--
Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation
Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
| ... couldn't have been ME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: Epson can't do 1120x832...Help!!!
Message-ID: <Aug2.202704.47438@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 20:27:04 GMT
Distribution: na
References: <1993Jul30.181329.70589@cc.usu.edu> <bchin.744136497@news.andi.org>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
> > I recently received a number of Epson progression machines.
> > I got the new Wingine driver from NeXT and I am trying to get
> > the Epson to use the higher (1120x832) resolution.
Note: If the driver documentation doesn't mention it, it should.
The new driver supports 1120 x 832 on the Epson NX, NOT the Epson
Progression NX. These are two slightly different machines.
The hardware on the Progression NX would need to be altered to
support the higher resolution and I've heard no indication that
it will be.
> Here at ANDI we saw the same problem when we upgraded our
> driver yesterday. I had thought it was because we had a
> pre-production machine. Has anyone tried the Lucky Goldstar
> 1120x832 driver?
Tsk. ANDI should be aware of these things!
--
Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation
Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
| ... couldn't have been ME
From: Ken Burner <kb13+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,pgh.next-users
Subject: NeXT Hardware Brokers
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 16:10:57 -0400
Organization: Hardware Maintenance, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <EgLLHFa00WBOE4LV0b@andrew.cmu.edu>
In response to a recent query I made on the above topic, I received
referrals to the following companies in the NeXT hardware buying/selling
business. I have not conducted business with anyone on the list, so I
can't recommend any of them one way or another. I'm posting this
summary because of the large number of people who wrote asking if I had
individual systems or parts to sell (I don't, but these people do).
Thanks to all who responded to my original message.
NeXT Equipment Brokers:
Advanced Business Systems, David Briggman, (919) 682-1126
ComputerActive, Kevin Ford, (613) 225-4824
Crisis Computers, Ned, (800) 726-0726
Dancing Bear Enterprises, Tim Griswold (tim@servare.com), (800) 221-2217
National Computer Exchange, Eleazer Lewis, (800) 659-2468
Northstar Technologies, Kursh Birdie, (212) 267-4100 ext.100
Spherical Solutions, Sam Goldberger (smg@orb.com), (415) 383-7512
-Ken Burner
Carnegie Mellon Computing Services
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Kensington Expert Mouse
Date: 2 Aug 1993 21:44:19 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Message-ID: <23k1rj$54l@news.mic.ucla.edu>
For those of you who don't know this, the Kensington Expert Mouse is a
very large track-bacll pointing device. Although not approved by NeXT,
it seem to work on my Intel GX/Pro. However, the mouse driver does not
roll fast enough---that is, we need some faster Preferences setting
for the mouse, and perhaps a linear setting, too (because this mouse I
believe has the non-linearity built-in).
Lobby NeXT!
/ivo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mw2630@albnyvms.bitnet
Subject: Help!!! Printer Revolt!
Message-ID: <1993Aug2.214758.13084@sarah.albany.edu>
Sender: news@sarah.albany.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Albany, SUNY
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 93 21:47:58 GMT
Hiyas all,
I wonder if ya can help me. I think my printer is possessed. Well, that's what the users are screaming at me.
Recently I have installed NextStep on an Intel 486-66 running NextStep, and just today I tried to connect it via paralell to a HP laserjet 4 printer. It hasn't exactly gone as planned. I tried to set up the printer in the printer manager, but when I try to test it, it prints out a cyrptic page-break error, and spews out about fifty blank sheets. Arg. I've tried to talk to the people at Next, but so far it's doing little. Does anybody have any suggestions ro
or ever have to deal with something like this before? I
would appreciate any help I could get. Thanx.
Micah Wyenn
Cellular One
Paramus NJ
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From: djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PAS-16 and NS/FIP
Date: 2 Aug 1993 23:05:19 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <23k6jf$b5n@transfer.stratus.com>
I recently saw a post from an individual that had spent considerable time is
configuring a PAS-16 on NS/FIP. I have "lost" his post, and I am interested
in any ideas on getting the damn thing to work. I am able to get it
installed and it will "play" short sounds, but longer ones have "drop-outs".
I have tried a couple of different configurations with no luck.
I am using the "default" configurations for the remaining cards...
Everything else works fine, slow serial, parallel printing ...
My configuration is:
486/66 EISA/VLB "NICE" motherboard
1542C
3 - HP SCSI II 540mb Drives
20mb ram
ATI Ultra Pro video
Logitec Bus Mouse
no network card
Thanks,
-david jepson-
Stratus Computer Inc.
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Kensington Expert Mouse
Date: 2 Aug 1993 23:43:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23k8r0$ne4@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <23k1rj$54l@news.mic.ucla.edu>
In article <23k1rj$54l@news.mic.ucla.edu> iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
>
>For those of you who don't know this, the Kensington Expert Mouse is a
>very large track-bacll pointing device. Although not approved by NeXT,
>it seem to work on my Intel GX/Pro. However, the mouse driver does not
>roll fast enough---that is, we need some faster Preferences setting
>for the mouse, and perhaps a linear setting, too (because this mouse I
>believe has the non-linearity built-in).
>
>Lobby NeXT!
Seems to still work for 3.0
From preferences.775 NeXTAnswers:
mouse scaling
Q: How can I get my mouse pointer to stop jumping around, and to glide smoothly across the screen?
A: Type the following command into a shell window:
% dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "string"
Where "string" contains a single value indicating the number of integer pairs to follow, followed
by the actual pairs. The integer pairs are (speed, acceleration) pairs. These integer pairs make
the mouse movement on the screen dependent both on the distance the mouse was moved on the pad, and
its acceleration and speed. When you change the mouse speed through the Preferences application,
it creates one of these. Here's the format of a MouseScaling argument:
% dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "N x1 a1 x2 a2 x3 a3 x4 a4 ... xN aN"
To give the mouse a smoother motion across the screen, you must make the mouse movement linear
(uniform, but slow). This dwrite will do the trick:
% dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "1 1 1"
This means that if you move the mouse x amount on the pad, it moves it by kx pixels on the screen
regardless of how long it took. (k is the constant which translates the mouse pad coordinate system
to the screen coordinate system.)
Warning: we cannot guarantee the support of dwrites in future releases, so do not put this in your
application or rely on it in any way.
QA775
Not-tested for 1.0
Valid for 2.0
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Connect a printer to the serial port of 486 PC
Message-ID: <1993Aug3.002534.2592@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 00:25:34 GMT
Hi,
I know that there is a serious bug in the serial driver of NS/FIP 3.1. Would
this bug let the connection of a printer to a PC via serial port become failed?
Also, does the HP DJ500 printer work with NS/FIP ?
Thanks for any help!
TC Huang
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Kensington Expert Mouse
Date: 3 Aug 1993 00:38:59 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23kc33$7q6@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <23k1rj$54l@news.mic.ucla.edu> <23k8r0$ne4@agate.berkeley.edu>
.... and some good news from NeXT: NS 3.2 will offer the proper
support (i.e. more and linear mouse speeds).
/ivo welch
From: "Ryan B. Troll" <ry+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Gateway 2000 Question
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 20:31:48 -0400
Organization: University Libraries - Library Automatio, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ogLP7o600Vk7E5W2cR@andrew.cmu.edu>
I am looking for some feedback from people who have installed
NeXTStep/FIP on Gateway 2000 DX2/66V machines. Do you have any
suggestions / comments / warnings?
I've successfully installed NS on a friends' homebrew system (Adaptek
1542c SCSI, 8M memory, 1G harddrive (model unknown), standard VGA
card, DX2/66 Vesa Localbus motherboard (HiNT corporation with Phoenix
bios)), and was somewhat disappointed with the performance.
Hopefully, the problem is a cross between the amount of memory and
video card, but I don't really know.
So, any news about Gateway performance would really be appreciated.
Thanks!
-Ryan
From: tcollins@cisco.com (Tracy Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: flickering monitor on color NeXTstation
Date: 3 Aug 1993 00:07:43 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems
Message-ID: <23ka8fINNpmr@cronkite.cisco.com>
References: <CB1HBp.ED@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
David Meyer (dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu) wrote:
:
: The monitor on my color 'station just started jumping around and
: flickering. It will flicker for a few seconds, then stop for a while,
: then flicker again. As far as I've been able to tell, the intervals
: are completely random. a) Is there anything I can do to fix it
: myself? b) Is there anything I can do to keep it from getting worse?
: c) Why is it happening?
:
: Thanks,
: Dave
: --
: David M. Meyer Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering
: dmm0t@rincewind.mech.virginia.edu University of Virginia
: NeXTmail ok
I have seen similar problems on my color station. This started happening
after I moved into a house that has dubious wiring. I suspect that my
AC power isn't the best it could be. Heck, the lights in the place sometimes
flicker! I need a power conditioner or I need to move...
tracy
tcollins@cisco.com
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (charles d. kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Good vendors to talk to?
Keywords: NS/FIP, Intel, Vendors
Message-ID: <23kh23INNau8@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Date: 3 Aug 93 02:03:46 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Hello,
I am not in the market for an intel machine (I've got my sleek
black machine right here. :-), so I haven't been following the
discussions about purchases too much. Now, however, someone who might buy
or recommend a lot of machines for the University has asked me about
knowledgable vendors. Man! I would love to be able to get more NeXT's...
oops! that's more machines running NEXTSTEP on this campus. So I am
asking for the net's help.
One of the things I did read about vendors was about one in
Colorado (I think) who knew what he was doing. Does this ring a bell for
anyone? Can someone send me info on this person?
Actually, if people can send me info on vendors that they've
worked with and their recommendations, good or bad, I'll summarize them
for the net. Everything will be hearsay, of course, but isn't everything
we know really just hearsay? (Sorry. I'm part nihilist. :-)
So, send me your tired, your poor, your good vendors and your bad.
I'll collect, summarize and disseminate the information.
Thanks,
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
"It's crackers to slip the rozzer the dropsy in snide."
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway 2000 Question
Date: 3 Aug 1993 02:27:54 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <23kifa$jl7@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <ogLP7o600Vk7E5W2cR@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <ogLP7o600Vk7E5W2cR@andrew.cmu.edu> "Ryan B. Troll" <ry+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>I am looking for some feedback from people who have installed
>NeXTStep/FIP on Gateway 2000 DX2/66V machines. Do you have any
>suggestions / comments / warnings?
>
>I've successfully installed NS on a friends' homebrew system (Adaptek
>1542c SCSI, 8M memory, 1G harddrive (model unknown), standard VGA
>card, DX2/66 Vesa Localbus motherboard (HiNT corporation with Phoenix
>bios)), and was somewhat disappointed with the performance.
>Hopefully, the problem is a cross between the amount of memory and
>video card, but I don't really know.
>
>So, any news about Gateway performance would really be appreciated.
>Thanks!
>
16 Mb is probably the minimum you should consider. The video card should
be local bus or EISA. AT bus isn't fast enough. Performance on
a Gate2000 4dx2-66 is similar to the NextStation turbo Color systems.
CPU is slightly faster and video is slightly slower. The local
bus IDE controller is nothing to right home about. Its usable though.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu ()
Subject: Connecting a NS/I box to a cube
Message-ID: <1993Aug3.021141.6782@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu>
Sender: news@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 02:11:41 GMT
Hi:
I've just put an Intel EtherExpress (TP only) into my NS/I box and I'd
like to hook it up to my 040 cube. Does anybody know how I have to hack
a TP cable so that I can directly hook the two machines up? (ie, w/out a
hub - just straight cable from one machine to the other). I seem to recall
that you can do something similiar to how you would hack a modem cable into
a null modem cable.
If anyone has a pinout or description of how this can be done (or to
disvalidate this possibility), that would be great.
Thanks...
- Jim Wissner
wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam)
Subject: Re: PAS-16 and NS/FIP
Message-ID: <CB5x9E.8yy@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
References: <23k6jf$b5n@transfer.stratus.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 02:51:12 GMT
In article <23k6jf$b5n@transfer.stratus.com> djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson) writes:
>I recently saw a post from an individual that had spent considerable time is
>configuring a PAS-16 on NS/FIP. I have "lost" his post, and I am interested
>in any ideas on getting the damn thing to work. I am able to get it
>installed and it will "play" short sounds, but longer ones have "drop-outs".
>
>486/66 EISA/VLB "NICE" motherboard
>1542C
^^ Try replacing this board for a Adaptec 1740 when 3.2 comes out in
October.
>3 - HP SCSI II 540mb Drives
>20mb ram
>ATI Ultra Pro video
>Logitec Bus Mouse
>no network card
>
There is a problem with the firmware on Adaptec 1542-B cards in that
they cannot DMA 16bits at a time, higher DMA channels cause 2 x 8 bit
transfers which take a long time, this is causing the drop-outs in audio.
Try lowering the DMA channel to 3 which defaults transfers to 8 bit audio.
This should fix the problem. Alternatively, get an EISA SCSI card
such as the 1740 in October, when support in 3.2 is added.
Anybody agree with this conclusion?
Brian Leake.
x
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Epson can't do 1120x832...Help!!!
Message-ID: <bchin.744352130@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1993Jul30.181329.70589@cc.usu.edu> <bchin.744136497@news.andi.org> <Aug2.202704.47438@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 04:28:50 GMT
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes:
>> > I recently received a number of Epson progression machines.
>> > I got the new Wingine driver from NeXT and I am trying to get
>> > the Epson to use the higher (1120x832) resolution.
>Note: If the driver documentation doesn't mention it, it should.
>The new driver supports 1120 x 832 on the Epson NX, NOT the Epson
>Progression NX. These are two slightly different machines.
>The hardware on the Progression NX would need to be altered to
>support the higher resolution and I've heard no indication that
>it will be.
Thanks for the clarification...
>> Here at ANDI we saw the same problem when we upgraded our
>> driver yesterday. I had thought it was because we had a
>> pre-production machine. Has anyone tried the Lucky Goldstar
>> 1120x832 driver?
>Tsk. ANDI should be aware of these things!
You're right... and now we know. :-)
Unfortunately, we just didn't have a monitor available to test this
until just recently. We *will* check out the Lucky Goldstar
soon though. (It's currently my pick as the best platform
for NS/Intel).
--
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VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group
Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Grafix Adapters for NS/FIP
Date: 1 Aug 1993 16:55:05 -0000
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <23gsh9$g4@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <1993Jul29.121454.1@nl103.ittpub.nl>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
pmiso_jv@nl103.ittpub.nl writes:
>To my surprise I found one shop nearby that has ATI cards for a much
>lower price, but is listed as 'ATI Ultra Pro Mach 32 VL Bus'. The
>sales-person of the shop is just that and didn't know anything about
>the technical side of hardware at all.
>My question is: is this card compatible with NeXTSTEP/FIP and if yes,
>is it any good?
The card is the same I'm using and it works fine. Only Wingine and
Dell Jaws graphics boards are faster at the moment.
Regards, Markus.
--
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 3 Aug 1993 00:19:52 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23kp18$6e4@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong
elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific
questions about NeXT's implementation or porting
issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups
(comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript,
comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that
may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU
Minor editing: Scott Anguish
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From: gadinger@galadriel.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Gadinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Do Micronics 486/50 motherboards work with NS?
Date: 3 Aug 1993 11:31:05 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <23li9p$jab@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Keywords: NS for Intel
I've got a Micronics 486/50 machine with SCSI controller etc. and would
like to run black software (NS 3.1) on it. But in next.advocacy someone
hinted that Micronics motherboards don't work AT ALL with NS. Has someone
tried this before?
Alex Wilkie, currently gadinger@saruman.neuro.tuwien.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: botma@cs.utwente.nl (Bart Botma)
Subject: FAST scsi-2 with CD?
Message-ID: <1993Aug3.111658.346@cs.utwente.nl>
Sender: usenet@cs.utwente.nl
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 11:16:58 GMT
I have a DPT 2012 fast scsi-2 controller and at the end of the
week I hope to receive my toshiba 3401 cd-rom player. I've
read in one post that due to speed problems with a sony
cd-rom player that person was forced to disable the fast
scsi-2 10Mb/s transfer rate and switch back to 5Mb/s.
Because to my knowledge the DPT controller does not support
transfer rates on a scsi id basis, am I too forced to
disable fast scsi, or should I order an external cd-rom
drive (the external scsi connector speed is 5Mb/s)?
Any one out there with both the 2012 and the 3401?
Bart
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jcg@world.std.com (Joan C Goodkind)
Subject: BNC and UTP at the same time?
Message-ID: <CB6s7y.Gst@world.std.com>
Summary: Can NeXT Cube handle UTP and BNC at the same time?
Keywords: NeXT, BNC, TCP, [Q]
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 13:59:56 GMT
Hey all:
We have a NeXT Cube that has both a BNC connector and a UTP
connector. Right now we have a BNC network plugged into the NeXT, and the
NeXT acts as file server, we are planning to network our campus and we are
going to go with Fiber-optic and UTP. Is there any way that we can leave
the BNC network hooked into the NeXT AND hook the NeXT into a UTP hub? We
would like to have everything NFSed, and need to know if the NeXT terminals
will be able to access the rest of the network. Is it possible? Our
alternative is to go all UTP, but that would be kind of a waste of the
thin-coax in place. :-(
Jim
From: mmh10@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (Mara M Helmuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Wanted: Ariel ISPW board
Date: 3 Aug 1993 14:59:28 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <23lugg$8ue@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
I would like to buy an IRCAM Signal Processing Workstation
board for the NeXT cube. Please send mail to:
mmh10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
or mara@silvertone.princeton.edu
Mara Helmuth
or call (212) 864-2667 before August 14.
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: IMPORTANT: Problem with NEXTSTEP 3.1 fip CDs (please read and pass this info on!!)
Date: 3 Aug 1993 15:25:53 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <23m021$7l1@menudo.uh.edu>
(Please alert your vendor of this potential problem!!! Also tell anyone you
know who isn't on the net...)
We have discovered a potentially serious problems with some shipments of
NEXTSTEP 3.1/fip CDs that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to install NEXTSTEP on any
hardware because the CD cannot be read:
There seems to have been a defect in the packaging phase during the
production of batch of NEXTSTEP 3.1 CDs. These CDs are "fogged." That is,
they have a thin film over the back of the CD (side opposite of the label).
At first we thought it was due to humidity, but now we are not sure what it
is. However, we believe that the defect happened during the packaging phase
because all of our 22 copies (from the same shipment) of NEXTSTEP 3.1/fip
had this film. Copies from an earlier shipment were fine.
We believe that this is not an isolated incident and that other shipments
may also be affected.
This problem can be fixed if you carefully clean the CD. We sucessfully
used "computer screen cleaner" and Windex without any problems. Apply the
cleaner to a lint-free cloth and wipe the film off the CD. After the CD is
cleaned, installation and use of the CD should be problem free (that is if
there aren't any other problems like hardware incompatiblity).
We would like to know if you come across a CD with this "defect" so please
send me email.
You can send email if you have any questions too!
--
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From: raf@shell.portal.com (Man Wei Tam)
Subject: Re: Do Micronics 486/50 motherboards work with NS?
Message-ID: <CB6wtG.GKB@unix.portal.com>
Keywords: NS for Intel
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
References: <23li9p$jab@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 15:39:13 GMT
In article <23li9p$jab@email.tuwien.ac.at> gadinger@galadriel.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Gadinger) writes:
>I've got a Micronics 486/50 machine with SCSI controller etc. and would
>like to run black software (NS 3.1) on it. But in next.advocacy someone
>hinted that Micronics motherboards don't work AT ALL with NS. Has someone
>tried this before?
>
Yes -
They work fine. We have 486/66 ISA with 2 LocalBus slots, ATI Graphics
Ultra Pro, Adaptec 1542B, SMC Elite 16 ethernet, CD-ROM, 2 SCSI drives,
Logitech Mouse (bus) and MediaVision ProAudio Spectrum Basic (same as 16).
This all works together fairly well, that isn't to say there arn't minor
niggles, that may or may not be 3.1's fault. Most annoying of which is
8 bit only audio due to ISA backplane.
Give it a shot. Take it one component at a time, ading new ones as you
find they work.
Brian Leake.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: Do Micronics 486/50 motherboards work with NS?
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Aug03.150436.38364@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1993 15:04:36 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <23li9p$jab@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Organization: IBM Rochester
Keywords: NS for Intel
In article <23li9p$jab@email.tuwien.ac.at>, gadinger@galadriel.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Gadinger) writes:
|> I've got a Micronics 486/50 machine with SCSI controller etc. and would
|> like to run black software (NS 3.1) on it. But in next.advocacy someone
|> hinted that Micronics motherboards don't work AT ALL with NS. Has someone
|> tried this before?
|>
|> Alex Wilkie, currently gadinger@saruman.neuro.tuwien.ac.at
Yes they do work. You just have to watch your BIOS. IE what version of BIOS do you have?
All BIOS is not created equal....
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Subject: Special Color Ink Jet Printer Paper?
Message-ID: <1993Aug3.134902.252@stone.com>
Keywords: Color Laser Paper
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 13:49:02 GMT
Does anyone know a source to Canon's SP-1015 LTR ink jet paper, or an
equivalent?
None of the paper houses around here have any, and it's remarkable how
much better output looks on the special coated paper as compared to
standard paper.
Thanks!
andrew
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kjell@oops.se(Kjell Nilsson)
Subject: Problems with EtherLink III
Message-ID: <1993Aug3.161636.16895@oops.se>
Sender: kjell@oops.se
Organization: OOPSart - ObjectWareHouse
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 16:16:36 GMT
When I choose the Etherlink III driver and reboots the
boot stops (hangs) when "Configuring drivers".
The card is there and the net is up and running.
My machine is an Dell 486D/66. Have someone a clue why??
Thanks
--Kjell
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kjell@oops.se(Kjell Nilsson)
Subject: Problems with Cyrrus Logic GD 542 Graphic Card
Message-ID: <1993Aug3.160324.16694@oops.se>
Sender: kjell@oops.se
Organization: OOPSart - ObjectWareHouse
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 16:03:24 GMT
I have problem with running a 486 with a Cyrrus Logic GD 542 Graphic card
and1 MB Video RAM.
The Monitor is a MICROSCAN 4G ADI.
The Screen flickers quite a lot when I run NEXTSTEP (1024 x 768) but it works
fine if I run Windows at 1024x768..hmm strange this card should work.
Another odd thing is that the monitor got some LEDs on it and when I run
NEXTSTEP it displays
a "3" on the LED, running Windows at the same resolution results in a "8" .
Are there anyone out there that have some similar problems with Cyrrus Logic
GD 542 ??
Thanks
--Kjell
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kjell@oops.se(Kjell Nilsson)
Subject: Problems with 1742 SCSI
Message-ID: <1993Aug3.160453.16758@oops.se>
Sender: kjell@oops.se
Organization: OOPSart - ObjectWareHouse
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 16:04:53 GMT
I ve got a 1742 SCSI card its supposed to have 1542 B fallback mode or be
compatible but I can t
get it to work, the installation just stopps.
Have anyone of you folks out there tested a 1742 and managed to get it going.
I sure would appreciate some feedback on this.
Thanks
- Kjell
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kerchen@k2.cs.ucdavis.edu (Paul Kerchen)
Subject: NS/I on an HP Vectra
Message-ID: <CB705x.14v@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: U.C. Davis, Computer Security Lab
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 16:51:32 GMT
I'd like to hear from anyone who has experience with NS/I on an HP
Vectra. I've been charged with investigating whether or not the
Vectra is a good platform for NS/I. So please, if you have any
experiences (good or bad), I'd like to hear 'em. I'll post a summary
if the response(s) is(are) useful.
E-mail to address below or post to c.s.n.h. Thanks!
| "Disembodied gutteral noise need not make sense" |
| Paul Kerchen |
| kerchen@cs.ucdavis.edu |
From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Do Micronics 486/50 motherboards work with NS?
Date: 3 Aug 1993 17:22:08 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <23m6s0$p2l@nic.umass.edu>
References: <23li9p$jab@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Anton Gadinger (gadinger@galadriel.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
: I've got a Micronics 486/50 machine with SCSI controller etc. and would
: like to run black software (NS 3.1) on it. But in next.advocacy someone
: hinted that Micronics motherboards don't work AT ALL with NS. Has someone
: tried this before?
Not all Micronics boards work, and unlike what some people might tell you
it isn't just the BIOS that matters. I don't know if the 486/50 works, but
I can definately say that the Micronics EISA/VESA board that I have does
not work -- and Micronics tech support says it probably won't either. The
keyboard is apparently sufficiently different from a PS2 keyboard that the
installation chokes on it and Micronics does not have a fix (there is no
jumper on this board to change this, unlike the early Gateway 2000 boards).
I know some other Micronics boards do indeed work...just stay away from
thier EISA/VESA board.
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer)
Subject: what is new in V-LAN for NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Aug3.142501.25176@uriela.in-berlin.de>
Keywords: V-LAN
Sender: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de
Organization: NeXAPP
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 14:25:01 GMT
I am very interested in controlled video-frame-by-frame-output via
V-LAN-control to professional VTRs.
any hints are welcome
please set answers to:
grisu@uriela.in-berlin.de
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From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha Rao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/Intel on PC laptops? Many new models are emerging, with nice trackballs.
Date: 3 Aug 1993 17:27:23 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <23m75r$hkj@menudo.uh.edu>
Keywords: display on external monitor....
I am investigating possible choices of a PC laptop running NS/Intel which will
display resolutions of 640x480 on its own screen 1024x768 (gray scale only, I
suppose) on an external monitor. What are the capabilities of a fullyloaded
NEC Versa Ultralite?
Ideally, the laotop should also have a front mounted trackball (like in the
powerbooks), and I was surprised to see so many new PC laptops which have this
feature (new ones are Austin PC's 486 DX2 laptop, and the one by the new IBM
company AMBRA (sp?) ). Will these trackballs require different driver software
or are they Microsoft mouse compatible serial devices???
I have looked at the hardware compatibility guide but am not clear if a local
bus video laptop can display 1024x768 on an external monitor.
Thanks.
--
Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@tree.egr.uh.edu
Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535
University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503
Houston, TX 77204-4792
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tom@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Tom Arnow)
Subject: Help Help Boot Problem
Message-ID: <1993Aug3.174155.2438@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 17:41:55 GMT
System hangs at
Master CPU at slot 0
I suspect the hard disk because of the sound it makes. Anybody have any
ideas? I would prefer not to swap without a clearer idea of what is going
on.
Thanks
Tom Arnow
From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pentium systems, anyone?
Date: 3 Aug 1993 19:12:07 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23mda7$h1a@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Has anybody installed or used NS/I on a Pentium system?
The floating point performance of Pentium seems to be
quite a lot better than the 486, which would be good
for DPS and 3D graphics. ALR is selling Pentium systems
now, and I believe they are listed in the compatibility
guide (albeit for 486 systems). Does NS/I not run on
Pentium at all?
good
for DPS and 3D graphics. ALR is selling Pentium systems
now, and I believ
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From: t_pascal@oxy.edu (Wilson)
Subject: Re: BNC and UTP at the same time?
Message-ID: <1993Aug3.200022.2197@cheshire.oxy.edu>
Sender: usenet@cheshire.oxy.edu (System Account)
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA. USA
References: <CB6s7y.Gst@world.std.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 20:00:22 GMT
In article <CB6s7y.Gst@world.std.com> jcg@world.std.com (Joan C Goodkind)
writes:
> We have a NeXT Cube that has both a BNC connector and a UTP
>connector. Right now we have a BNC network plugged into the NeXT, and the
>NeXT acts as file server, we are planning to network our campus and we are
>going to go with Fiber-optic and UTP. Is there any way that we can leave
>the BNC network hooked into the NeXT AND hook the NeXT into a UTP hub? We
>would like to have everything NFSed, and need to know if the NeXT terminals
>will be able to access the rest of the network. Is it possible? Our
>alternative is to go all UTP, but that would be kind of a waste of the
>thin-coax in place. :-(
>
Usually, you can buy a repeater with both 10baseT ("UTP") and 10base2
("thin-coax") ports. Not knowing your setup, I'd suggest getting a 10baseT
repeater with at least one 10base2 ("thin") port. Then, you can use the
AUI ("thick") port for the fibre.
---------
T. Pascal, King of Pascal | "He travels fastest who travels alone,
1600 Campus Road, Box 829 | but not when the frost drops below zero
Los Angeles, CA 90041 | fifty degrees or more."
| -Old eskimo saying
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From: stephane@planon.qc.ca
Subject: Re: Special Color Ink Jet Printer Paper?
Message-ID: <1993Aug3.204215.984@CAM.ORG!planon>
Sender: stephane@CAM.ORG!planon
References: <1993Aug3.134902.252@stone.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 20:42:15 GMT
In article <1993Aug3.134902.252@stone.com> andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
writes:
> Does anyone know a source to Canon's SP-1015 LTR ink jet paper, or an
> equivalent?
>
> None of the paper houses around here have any, and it's remarkable how
> much better output looks on the special coated paper as compared to
> standard paper.
>
It is not special paper, it is just simple coated paper. The best place to
find it is at a local print shop (not copy shop). They usually have it in
very large sheet, so you have to ask them to cut it at a dimension you
want to use (for example 8.5" X 11", 8.5" X 14" or 11" X 17").
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Q] Gateway with ATI XLR video board
Date: 3 Aug 1993 22:30:49 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23moup$f3g@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <23bnr5$nkg@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <23bnr5$nkg@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry
Weiss) writes:
#Gateway is now shipping a difference video board instead of the the ATI
#Ultra Pro (VL bus) in its 4dx2-66 systems. Its called the XLR. Any idea
#if this works with Nextstep.
#
Actually it is the same card but it has a newer revision of the video bios.
Works great (100% compatible with the Ultra Pro)...
#
#Damn I hate instance obsolesence, my machine is only 4 weeks old.
#
#
#--
#Jerry S. Weiss
#j-weiss@nwu.edu
#Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
#%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: [Q] Gateway with ATI XLR video board
Date: 3 Aug 1993 22:34:38 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <23mp5u$g1f@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <Aug2.203118.58312@acs.ucalgary.ca>
In article <Aug2.203118.58312@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake
Stone) writes:
#> I called ATI one day last week and asked them about the XLR
#> card that Gateway was advertising. The salesperson I spoke to
#> said she had never heard of an XLR card and said that ATI
#> certainly wasn't selling one.
#
#Call again and ask about the differences between the Mach32 rev 3
#and the recently released rev 6a. The newer revision supports
#fewer wait-states and therefore should be 60-100% faster than the
#older rev 3 for direct memory writes... the only way NeXTSTEP
#uses the chipset. OEM suppliers can call boards based on it
#anything they want to, and obviously Gateway wanted to
#differentiate the newer boards from the older, slower boards.
#
#Intel will be releasing a new version of the GX/Professional that
#incorporates the rev 6a chipset, too. It should be incorporated
#into machines made this month.
#
#On the other hand, I haven't talked to anyone who has tried the
#rev 6a chipset with NeXTSTEP.
#
30 of our Gateway2000 4DX2-66V tower systems came in with the new cards.
They work fine with the ATI Ultra Pro drivers under NEXTSTEP 3.1. I haven't
really noticed the speed difference though, but that is relative anyway :-)
#> There also was no info on it on ATI's FaxBack line. Therefore,
#> I suspect this may be just a fancy name Gateway is using for
#> their mach32 based VLB video card.
#
#... but a fancy name that makes a significant performance
#difference!
#
#--
#Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation
#Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
#bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
# | ... couldn't have been ME
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway 2000 Question
Date: 3 Aug 1993 22:36:34 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <23mp9i$g5k@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <23kifa$jl7@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <23kifa$jl7@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry
Weiss) writes:
#In article <ogLP7o600Vk7E5W2cR@andrew.cmu.edu> "Ryan B. Troll"
<ry+@CMU.EDU> writes:
#>I am looking for some feedback from people who have installed
#>NeXTStep/FIP on Gateway 2000 DX2/66V machines. Do you have any
#>suggestions / comments / warnings?
#>
#>I've successfully installed NS on a friends' homebrew system (Adaptek
#>1542c SCSI, 8M memory, 1G harddrive (model unknown), standard VGA
#>card, DX2/66 Vesa Localbus motherboard (HiNT corporation with Phoenix
#>bios)), and was somewhat disappointed with the performance.
#>Hopefully, the problem is a cross between the amount of memory and
#>video card, but I don't really know.
#>
#>So, any news about Gateway performance would really be appreciated.
#>Thanks!
#>
#
#
#16 Mb is probably the minimum you should consider. The video card should
#be local bus or EISA. AT bus isn't fast enough. Performance on
#a Gate2000 4dx2-66 is similar to the NextStation turbo Color systems.
#CPU is slightly faster and video is slightly slower. The local
#bus IDE controller is nothing to right home about. Its usable though.
#
Our Gateways are averaging 38Mips compared to the 25-26 Mips for our Color
Turbos... They are significantly faster on CPU intensive tasks....
#--
#Jerry S. Weiss
#j-weiss@nwu.edu
#Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
#%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Do Micronics 486/50 motherboards work with NS?
Date: 3 Aug 1993 22:38:51 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <23mpdr$g84@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <23m6s0$p2l@nic.umass.edu>
In article <23m6s0$p2l@nic.umass.edu> fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E
FITZGERALD) writes:
#Anton Gadinger (gadinger@galadriel.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
#: I've got a Micronics 486/50 machine with SCSI controller etc. and would
#: like to run black software (NS 3.1) on it. But in next.advocacy someone
#: hinted that Micronics motherboards don't work AT ALL with NS. Has someone
#: tried this before?
#
#Not all Micronics boards work, and unlike what some people might tell you
#it isn't just the BIOS that matters. I don't know if the 486/50 works, but
#I can definately say that the Micronics EISA/VESA board that I have does
#not work -- and Micronics tech support says it probably won't either. The
#keyboard is apparently sufficiently different from a PS2 keyboard that the
#installation chokes on it and Micronics does not have a fix (there is no
#jumper on this board to change this, unlike the early Gateway 2000 boards).
#
Please note that in the Gateway2000 4DX2-66V, they use the Micronics
ISA/VESA system board, not a EISA/VESA. This is a significant difference.
And btw, the ISA/VESA boards still have the jumper (W7) on them.... :-)
#I know some other Micronics boards do indeed work...just stay away from
#thier EISA/VESA board.
#
#Joe Fitzgerald
#fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Special Color Ink Jet Printer Paper?
Date: 4 Aug 1993 00:01:16 GMT
Organization: Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, TX
Message-ID: <23mu8d$mac@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
References: <1993Aug3.134902.252@stone.com>
Keywords: Color Laser Paper
In article <1993Aug3.134902.252@stone.com> andrew@stone.com writes:
>Does anyone know a source to Canon's SP-1015 LTR ink jet paper, or an
>equivalent?
>
>None of the paper houses around here have any, and it's remarkable how
>much better output looks on the special coated paper as compared to
>standard paper.
>
>Thanks!
>
>andrew
We get ours from a local place:
BRITCO
8179 ALMEDA
HOUSTON, TX 77054
(713) 748-8405
Contact: Barbara
Stock Number: Canon # F51-1181-200
Description: box of treated 8 1/2"x11" paper for bubble jet 800 series
color printer (200 sheets) $17.90 (that was our price/box in Jan 93)
--
Rick Gray, Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, Tx 77030 | Phone:(713)798-3346|Internet: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
NeXTMail accepted
From: william@pinoko.berkeley.edu (William E. Grosso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Kensington Expert Mouse
Date: 4 Aug 1993 00:44:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <23n0oi$j9m@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <23k1rj$54l@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Ivo Welch writes
>
> For those of you who don't know this, the Kensington Expert Mouse is a
> very large track-bacll pointing device. Although not approved by NeXT,
> it seem to work on my Intel GX/Pro. However, the mouse driver does not
> roll fast enough---that is, we need some faster Preferences setting
> for the mouse, and perhaps a linear setting, too (because this mouse I
> believe has the non-linearity built-in).
>
I called a friend who works at Kensington's tech support and
(s)he (no desire for attribution) said that
"Our beta testers tell us that it works fine. However,
we won't have an official position until we do more
testing ourselves."
Note that this means the ExpertMouse itself works fine. The software
that Kensington supplies (to custom configure the mouse) is DOS/Windows
based and hence, doesn't work.
Bill Grosso
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ZyXEL upgrade?
Date: 4 Aug 1993 04:24:47 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <23ndmf$l27@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <23ij81$10h@localhost.dk>
Keywords: Eproms
In article <23ij81$10h@localhost.dk> work@dannug.dk writes:
>I ve got a ZyXEL U1496E,which works ok most of the time, but once in a
>while it fails me in strange.
>
>I ve been recommended to upgrade the eproms inside to a newer version,
>since mine is version 4.09h.
>
>Did anyone of you upgrade, and if so, how did you go about it, did you
>email the ZyXEL Corporation, and if, do you have an email address, that I
>can use? Or did you purchase the eproms from some retailer, and if so,
>could you let me have an address or a phone number?
The latest version of the ZyXEL ROMs is v6.01. That's the good news.
The bad news is that your modem only has ROM sockets that fit the 512Kbit
ROMs, not the newer 1Mbit ROMs. (The v6.01 ROMs are the 1Mbit variety.)
Solution, modify the circuit board of the modem and pop in the new ROMs.
If you are uncomfortable with the procedure, your retailer/distributor/etc
should be able to help you out.
Some people have paid ZyXEL USA to do the hardware modifications and for
ZyXEL USA to put in the latest ROMs.
Disclaimer: I am the keeper of the ZyXEL FAQ and I am also a ZyXEL reseller.
RWW.
--
Robert W. Wong Jr.
wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
Crasher of Automated Banking Machines and Keeper of the ZyXEL FAQ
From: bohlkejh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jon H. Bohlke II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ZyXEL upgrade?
Date: 4 Aug 1993 05:53:27 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <23nisn$e3s@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <23ndmf$l27@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
In article <23ndmf$l27@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) writes:
> The latest version of the ZyXEL ROMs is v6.01. That's the good news.
>
> The bad news is that your modem only has ROM sockets that fit the 512Kbit
> ROMs, not the newer 1Mbit ROMs. (The v6.01 ROMs are the 1Mbit variety.)
>
I have version 4.0x ROMS in my ZyXEL and I have the right sockets for 1Mbit EPROM. Check
you circuit board before you buy you EPROM.
Jon
From: bohlkejh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jon H. Bohlke II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ZyXEL upgrade?
Date: 4 Aug 1993 05:53:42 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <23nit6$e40@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <23ndmf$l27@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>
In article <23ndmf$l27@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) writes:
> The bad news is that your modem only has ROM sockets that fit the 512Kbit
> ROMs, not the newer 1Mbit ROMs. (The v6.01 ROMs are the 1Mbit variety.)
>
I have version 4.0x ROMS in my ZyXEL and I have the right sockets for 1Mbit EPROM. Check
you circuit board before you buy you EPROM.
Jon
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PLI's 2.88 M floppy on a 030 cube
Date: 4 Aug 1993 09:16:31 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23nk7v$t82@cc.tut.fi>
Is it possible to attach PLI's 2.88 M floppy drive to a 030 cube with
newer SCSI controller chip (model A)? The connector of the floppy drive
must be changed, but will it work? Anyone tried to do this? How about
mounting the drive inside the cube and attaching it to internal SCSI
bus? Any ideas adding a 2.88 M floppy to a 030 cube are welcome.
--
Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks
Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Comments on the Python DAT Drive for NeXT 68K??
Date: 4 Aug 1993 02:45:24 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23nlu4$8gj@digifix.digifix.com>
Currently LaCie (quantum) has a summer sale going on
where they are selling 1 Gig Quantum Pro drives for $1000
and 1.2 Gig DAT drives for $999
The DAT is an external with a Python mechanism.
Any comments on the DAT drive, or the Hard Drive?
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ian_stewart@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Re: Epson can't do 1120x832...Help!!!
Message-ID: <CB7ry1.84@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: ABC Company. We specialize in classic chewing gum!
References: <bchin.744352130@news.andi.org>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 02:51:36 GMT
The EPSON NX with NEXTSTEP pre-install is available to resellers with a
current ingram account. If you are not a reseller and interested in a few
machines, let me know and I will get someone to help you out.
Ian
In article <bchin.744352130@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
Chin) writes:
> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes:
>
> >> > I recently received a number of Epson progression machines.
> >> > I got the new Wingine driver from NeXT and I am trying to get
> >> > the Epson to use the higher (1120x832) resolution.
>
> >Note: If the driver documentation doesn't mention it, it should.
> >The new driver supports 1120 x 832 on the Epson NX, NOT the Epson
> >Progression NX. These are two slightly different machines.
>
> >The hardware on the Progression NX would need to be altered to
> >support the higher resolution and I've heard no indication that
> >it will be.
>
> Thanks for the clarification...
>
> >> Here at ANDI we saw the same problem when we upgraded our
> >> driver yesterday. I had thought it was because we had a
> >> pre-production machine. Has anyone tried the Lucky Goldstar
> >> 1120x832 driver?
>
> >Tsk. ANDI should be aware of these things!
>
> You're right... and now we know. :-)
> Unfortunately, we just didn't have a monitor available to test this
> until just recently. We *will* check out the Lucky Goldstar
> soon though. (It's currently my pick as the best platform
> for NS/Intel).
>
> --
> Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc.
> VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group
> Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: chris@aardvark.rain.com (Chris Lamb)
Subject: Gateway 2000, chickens, and eggs. Help!
Message-ID: <CB7uv8.1LC@aardvark.rain.com>
Summary: If it ain't one thing, it's another
Keywords: hang boot kill maim destroy pull out hair
Organization: Steve's UNIX System, Portland, Oregon
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 03:54:43 GMT
I'm trying to install NeXTSTEP for Intel on a Gateway 2000 4DX2/66V
and it just ain't happenin'.
I gots the new BIOS, so I know about the keyboard thing.
I disabled the floppy on the Adaptec board, and plugged the drive
into the motherboard.
I removed the stupid non-SCSI CD-ROM card, removed the Pro Audio sound
card, disconnected the modem and printer, went through the BIOS setup
and have tried to get this thing down to a reasonable "bare minimum."
I boot from the NeXT floppy. It churns away for a while and gets to
Registering: fc0
and hangs. If I eject the floppy after it resets the SCSI bus, it gets
past that point, and says
root on sd1
rootdev 608, howto 0
and hangs. If I boot from the floppy, and don't mount the CD-ROM in the
drive, then whether I leave the the floppy in or not, I get
RDP exception blah blah blah
... press 'c' to continue...
and it loops endlessly, asking me to press c to continue.
It does see the CD-ROM drive and the hard disk when it probes the bus,
and does tell me that the CD has a valid label. (I even checked for a
"fogged" CD, as someone recently warned about. :-) The CD-ROM has been
at ID 1 and ID 6, with no difference in (mis)behavior. :-)
I've tried everything; screwed with all the jumper settings on the disk
(Seagate 500MB) the CD-ROM drive (a SONY CDU-8012 rev 3.1a, from a Sun
shoebox) and the Adaptec board. Of course, I did this *one tweak at a
time*, so I've rebooted this damn machine at least 70 or 80 times.
(BONUS POINTS: Is there a way to disable the bloody memory test on startup? :-)
I even thought that I was just being impatient; it seemed to be making floppy
noises, so I left the room, and hoped it was just being slow. Teeth have been
nashed, heads scratched, possibilities pondered.
HELP!!
I *know* there are folks out there that reported this same problem, but I missed
the solution (if one was posted). I *know* that there are successful Gateway
installs, so hopefully someone out there can give me some tips.
Thanks,
-- Chris
--
Chris Lamb, Sr. Alchemist
chris@alchemy.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: stefan@initiera2 (Stefan Kruger)
Subject: Problems w/ CirrusLogic
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.080815.4540@sics.se>
Sender: news@sics.se
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 08:08:15 GMT
Hi,
My graphics card seems to start up in the wrong resolution. His
configuration:
50Mhz 486 AMI bios
CirrusLogic GD542 1Mb VRAM
MicroScan 4G ADI Screen
The screen goes all flickery just as if the card uses a much higher
resolution than the screen. The system works fine running Windoze,
but when NeXTSTEP is up the little display on the screen says that
the card not properly tells the screen what resolution is being used.
Any ideas ?
/Stefan (stefan@initiera.upnet.se)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: stefan@initiera2 (Stefan Kruger)
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.092204.8932@sics.se>
Sender: news@sics.se
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
References: <1993Jul13.133456.5590@xlan.fdn.org>
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 09:22:04 GMT
In article <1993Jul13.133456.5590@xlan.fdn.org> pspriet@xlan.fdn.org (Paul
Spriet) writes:
> In article <15745@blue.cis.pitt.edu> cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
> writes:
> > After my evangelizing here at the Library, we brought in an evaluation
> copy
> > of NS/FIP.
> >
> > We tested it out and after several installation quirks, got it
running.
> >
> > However, it conks out after a period of a several hours on incoming IP
> > packets. Not good.
> >
> > It is back in the box and on the shelf. Oh well, it was only $300.
> >
> > NeXT dropped the ball putting this release out for general
consumption.
> >
> > It is UNUSABLE for network applications, the entire reason we are
> > evaluating new operating systems. Unixware is back on the machine.
> >
> > C'est la NeXT!
> >
> I think that guys like you are UNUSABLE too !
>
> If you not strong enough to test NeXTStep, and to evaluate it in good
> conditions, please, don't do it and don't give us your feelings.
>
> NeXTStep is a DREAM for network applications, and easy to install too.
>
> Don't talk about NeXTStep anymore, that will save you from saying stupid
> things.
Hey - don't make the mistake of coming down on people like a ton of
bricks just because they experience problems that YOU find ridiciulous.
We all benefit from NeXTSTEP gaining market shares - so please show
some understanding !
Stefan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: stefan@initiera2 (Stefan Kruger)
Subject: 9 bit SIMMs on black hw
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.123720.16891@sics.se>
Sender: news@sics.se
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 12:37:20 GMT
Hello,
is it ok to use 9 bit SIMMs on a NeXT color slab ?
Sincerely,
Stefan (stefan@initiera.upnet.se)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jmh@iro.umontreal.ca (Jean-Marc Heneman)
Subject: Power Backup Autoshutdown NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.133959.545@vlsi.polymtl.ca>
Summary: Is there a driver to support autoshudown on power failure via power backup?
Keywords: POWER FAILURE BACKUP AUTOSHUTDOWN SHUTDOWN DRIVER
Sender: news@vlsi.polymtl.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 13:39:59 GMT
Is there a driver to support autoshutdown on power failure via power
backup like UPS device?
--
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jean-marc heneman = jmh@info.polymtl.ca
if mail bounces, try jm_hene@pavo.concordia.ca or jmh@aircanada.ca
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From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Special Color Ink Jet Printer Paper?
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.145938.5088@altsys.com>
Keywords: Color Laser Paper
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <1993Aug3.134902.252@stone.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 14:59:38 GMT
In article <1993Aug3.134902.252@stone.com> andrew@stone.com writes:
>Does anyone know a source to Canon's SP-1015 LTR ink jet paper, or an
>equivalent?
>
>None of the paper houses around here have any, and it's remarkable how
>much better output looks on the special coated paper as compared to
>standard paper.
>
>Thanks!
>
>andrew
>
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>!! andrew@stone.com <> Stone Design Corp !!
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I have used "generic" ink jet paper with excellent results. I went
down to the local Bizniz Things R Us and bought some lableled for HP
ink jets and it was almost as good as the wackily overpriced paper
from Canon.
--
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269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jmh@iro.umontreal.ca (Jean-Marc Heneman)
Subject: Re: Power Backup Autoshutdown NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.145034.1170@vlsi.polymtl.ca>
Sender: news@vlsi.polymtl.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
References: <1993Aug4.133959.545@vlsi.polymtl.ca>
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 14:50:34 GMT
i found that a company (dunno the name) sell POWER GUARDIAN for ns/fip.
does anybody know the name of the compagny and the e-mail address?
Jean-Marc Heneman (jmh@iro.umontreal.ca) wrote:
: Is there a driver to support autoshutdown on power failure via power
: backup like UPS device?
--
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jean-marc heneman = jmh@info.polymtl.ca
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: stephane@planon.qc.ca
Subject: Re: what is new in V-LAN for NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.140909.299@CAM.ORG!planon>
Sender: stephane@CAM.ORG!planon
References: <1993Aug3.142501.25176@uriela.in-berlin.de>
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 14:09:09 GMT
In article <1993Aug3.142501.25176@uriela.in-berlin.de>
perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer) writes:
>
> I am very interested in controlled video-frame-by-frame-output via
> V-LAN-control to professional VTRs.
>
>
> any hints are welcome
We do not use V-LAN to control professional VTR, but we use another
controller call the Pro:MC from ARTI. We have been using it on a daily
basis for automation of a television station for over a year now. The
control software was written here on NEXTSTEP. This controller is much
more complete than the V-LAN one, at least for what we saw of it.
Stephane Savard
Director R&D
Planon Telexpertise Inc.
1370 Joliot-Curie #708
Boucherville, Quebec
Canada, J4B 7L9
Email: stephane@planon.qc.ca (NeXTmail accepted and appreciated!)
From: kjb@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin J. Barth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Advice solicited for the "best laptop for NS-I"
Message-ID: <08Dj036pd8=c00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>
Date: 4 Aug 93 10:36:41 GMT
References: <23bnr5$nkg@news.acns.nwu.edu> <23moup$f3g@menudo.uh.edu>
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Maybe this is not available/possible, but what has anyone heard about
current offerings of laptops that can run NS-I and have the following
minimum characteristics:
- 486 25Mhz
- 16MB RAM
- 200MB hard drive
- 640x480 active matrix color display
- ethernet port (either built in, or a way to connect it with another
device that NS-I supports)
- 2400/9600bps fax/modem
Also, if anyone has any information about forthcoming laptops/notebooks
with these capabilities or better, please let me know about them.
Please include list prices (if known).
I'll post a summary to the net.
Cheers,
Kevin Barth
kjb@uts.amdahl.com
PS: For those interested, I'm curious to see if there is anything out
there in PC-INTEL land that comes *close* to the SPARCBOOK II from
Tadpole Technologies. This beast is an amazing notebook that comes
with up to 512MB Hard disk, 32MB ram, external scsi port, 2 serial
ports, 4800/9600bps fax modem, beautiful high resolution active matrix
color display (I forgot the resolution specs), built in ethernet, and
a 40Mhz SPARC cpu. A really a nice machine, but, alas, it is
NeXTSTEP-hostile!! ;-) .....Oh, and I almost forgot, it is *damn*
expensive, at about $11000 (on discount in the UK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jq@phcs.com (Jim "NeXT" Quick)
Subject: DPT SCSI controllers
Message-ID: <CB8yKE.CFy@phcs.com>
Keywords: DPT, SCSI, controller
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 18:12:14 GMT
Today I got some more information from DPT on their 2022 and 2122
controller boards. These are the 2 new products which are replacing
the 2012 SCSI adaptor.
I spoke with Steve in the technical support department of DPT today
to ask about the relative speeds of these boards. The 2022 and 2122
boards provide basically the same functionality but have MC68000 and
MC68020 chips respectively.
The 2122 board was designed primarily for use on servers running a
multi-threaded OS. The MC68020's additional horsepower will improve
disk response time on heavily loaded SCSI chains with lots of requests
going to multiple drives.
Though the MC68000 powered 2022 board is less beefy, you should not
see a significant speed difference vs. 2122 until you have ~4+ fast
drives banging away at once.
He (Steve) said that a good rule of thumb to use is 3MB/sec per drive.
Since 4 VERY active drives approach 12MB/sec (greater than the SCSI 2
rating of 10MB), this is likely to be the cutoff at which 2122 will
significantly improve throughput. If you plan on having 4 or more
drives in very heavy use than it will make sense to wait another
3-4 weeks for the 2122. Otherwise the 2022 should be enough for you.
Several suppliers have 2022s in stock now.
good prices seem to be:
~$360 for 2022/90 and ~$375 for 2022/95
Remember that you will need a firmware upgrade from DPT for this.
They will ship it to you via UPS free of charge.
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From: nick@ludwig.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Nick Walker)
Subject: Re: Do Micronics 486/50 motherboards work with NS?
Message-ID: <CB920E.36L@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <23mpdr$g84@menudo.uh.edu>
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 19:26:38 GMT
In article <23mpdr$g84@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S.
Sears) writes:
> In article <23m6s0$p2l@nic.umass.edu> fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH
E
> FITZGERALD) writes:
> #Anton Gadinger (gadinger@galadriel.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
> #: I've got a Micronics 486/50 machine with SCSI controller etc. and
would
> #: like to run black software (NS 3.1) on it. But in next.advocacy
someone
> #: hinted that Micronics motherboards don't work AT ALL with NS. Has
someone
> #: tried this before?
> #
> #Not all Micronics boards work, and unlike what some people might tell
you
> #it isn't just the BIOS that matters. I don't know if the 486/50 works,
but
> #I can definately say that the Micronics EISA/VESA board that I have
does
> #not work -- and Micronics tech support says it probably won't either.
The
> #keyboard is apparently sufficiently different from a PS2 keyboard that
the
> #installation chokes on it and Micronics does not have a fix (there is
no
> #jumper on this board to change this, unlike the early Gateway 2000
boards).
> #
>
> Please note that in the Gateway2000 4DX2-66V, they use the Micronics
> ISA/VESA system board, not a EISA/VESA. This is a significant
difference.
> And btw, the ISA/VESA boards still have the jumper (W7) on them.... :-)
Unfortunately, GW2000 66E machine now uses the Micronics EISA-VLB board,
which is a shame because I was just about to buy one *sigh*.
--
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Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-3677
Pager: (415) 424-7335
From: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: EISA ATI Graphics Ultra Pro won't work, any ideas?
Date: 4 Aug 1993 20:26:13 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Sender: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23p615INNaqq@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Having carefully read the hardware compatibility guide, I went out and
bought an EISA GUP with 2MB. Of course, it works under Windows/DOS with
no problems. I tried to configure it for NS FIP, and when booting the
boot texts said (approximately)
"Assuming ATI is local bus"
"Cannot map memory aperture - priviledge violation"
Anyone else had this problem? Alternatively, is there something special
I have to do to the EISA configuration?
One thing that strikes me as odd is that Next assumes there will be a 2MB
aperture whereas all the ati utilities say it's 4MB.
Any help appreciated.
Ari
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland)
Subject: Re: [Q] Gateway with ATI XLR video board
Message-ID: <1993Aug2.060511.9388@splunge.uucp>
Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood
References: <23bnr5$nkg@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 06:05:11 GMT
jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
>Gateway is now shipping a difference video board instead of the the ATI
>Ultra Pro (VL bus) in its 4dx2-66 systems. Its called the XLR. Any idea
>if this works with Nextstep.
>Damn I hate instance obsolesence, my machine is only 4 weeks old.
Hey, welcome to the wonder world of Intel PCs. Get to like it,
or learn to live with the hate. :~/
--
Royce Howland, DKW Systems Corp. | "And since OS/2 2.0 is a 32-bit
Everything is IMHO | operating system, programs are
royce@splunge.uucp (NeXTMail OK) | easier to write and run faster,
or kakwa!atlantis!splunge!royce | too." -ad for OS/2 2.0
From: holmes@cs.umd.edu (Holmes S. Liao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Next printer
Message-ID: <70048@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 4 Aug 93 21:11:06 GMT
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
This might be an FAQ in this group. But please allow me, a newcomer of
the Next community...
Is it possible to hook up a Next printer to a non-Next computer that
supports Postcript, such as a Mac? If so, what add-ons are necessary
(software, hardware)? Thanks in advance,
holmes liao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@adobe.com
Subject: Re: EISA ATI Graphics Ultra Pro won't work, any ideas?
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.231155.1826@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <23p615INNaqq@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 23:11:55 GMT
In article <23p615INNaqq@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P
Laakkonen) writes:
> Having carefully read the hardware compatibility guide, I went out and
> bought an EISA GUP with 2MB. Of course, it works under Windows/DOS with
> no problems. I tried to configure it for NS FIP, and when booting the
> boot texts said (approximately)
>
> "Assuming ATI is local bus"
> "Cannot map memory aperture - priviledge violation"
>
> Anyone else had this problem? Alternatively, is there something special
> I have to do to the EISA configuration?
> One thing that strikes me as odd is that Next assumes there will be a 2MB
> aperture whereas all the ati utilities say it's 4MB.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Ari
When you see the message:
"Assuming ATI is local bus"
it means that the device driver failed to determine whether the ATI card is
EISA, ISA, or VLB. In that case it just assumes that it is a VLB card. The
second message is just a result of the first. I have to admit that I am at a
bit of a loss as to why this test would have failed. The only thing I can
suggest without looking at the GUP manual (I don't have a copy in front of me)
is that the jumpers on the card are set incorrectly.
I have run an EISA GUP in several machines including Compaq's and NEC's and it
worked just fine. By the way, does your motherboard have a built-in display
controller (like a super VGA)? If so, it needs to be disabled for the GUP to
work properly.
Joe Pasqua
From: seward@shale.cps.msu.edu (Robert D Seward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is a Comtrade EISA box a good choice for NeXTstep?
Date: 5 Aug 1993 00:24:41 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <23pk09$sak@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
I am a poor college student seeking the optimum NeXTstep hardware platform
that will fit into a meager student's budget. Good luck right? Anyway I
think I may have found the 486 box that will fit the bill, however I would
like to get some recommendations for or against it.
I found this PC in a Comtrade add in the 8/93 Computer Shopper p. 104.
EISA motherboard 2 VLB slots.
8 MB Ram.
32 - bit VL-bus Fast ASPI SCSI-2 HD controller.
340 MB SCSI-2 drive.
32 - bit VL-bus WinPro Graphics Card ( 1MB ram )
14 inch NI SVGA Monitor (1024*768).
Serial Mouse.
350 ms CD-ROM.
for $2025
Is this a good PC to run NeXTstep in grayscale on? I know the video is
garbage so running Color on it is out of the question. What I am concerned
with is purchasing a good solid base to expand in the future ( 2-3 years
maximum life ). I was wondering, would it be possible to find a driver
that made the ASPI SCSI controller look like an Adaptek? And if so how
reliable would it be? Next question, if the SCSI controller turns out to
be junk, can I replace it with an Adaptek 1542b? Does the 1542b support
the SCSI-2 standard? Any comments or recommendations can be mailed via
EMAIL (NeXT mail welcome) to seward@cps.msu.edu. Thank you in advance for
your help.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische)
Subject: Re: Special Color Ink Jet Printer Paper?
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.111544.913@lkba.uucp>
Sender: lkb@lkba.uucp (Larry Blische)
Organization: LKB Associates, Inc.
References: <1993Aug3.134902.252@stone.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 11:15:44 GMT
In article <1993Aug3.134902.252@stone.com> andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
writes:
> Does anyone know a source to Canon's SP-1015 LTR ink jet paper, or an
> equivalent?
>
> None of the paper houses around here have any, and it's remarkable how
> much better output looks on the special coated paper as compared to
> standard paper.
>
> Thanks!
>
> andrew
And how about the ink? Can the cartridges be refilled?
---
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LKB Associates, Inc. NeXTmail Welcome!
3118 Dunglow Road 410 285 2262
Dundalk, Maryland 21222-5304 USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Maxtor MXT-1240N and NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CB9LFL.6o@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 02:26:08 GMT
Maxtor MXT-1240N
Has anyone gotten this drive to work with NeXTs?
I have tried in on a NeXT and on an Intel GX Pro, in both cases I get SCSI
errors (on the NeXT it gets something like sc: unsynch msg, on the GX with an
Adaptec 1542c (that works with other drives) I get SCSI timeout during init).
I called Maxtor and there is special "generic" as they call it firmware for the
Mac, and some other kind of firmware... well I don't have the kind for the Mac
and it will not work.
What are people using for drives >1GIG (SCSI, 3.5") for either NeXT's or Intel
boxes.
Thanks
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ltinyman@leland.Stanford.EDU (Maurice Rabb)
Subject: Help: NS full dev kit on portable.
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.171118.19384@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 93 17:11:18 GMT
I want to put the NS full developers kit on a portable machine. (I work in
several different cities.) Unfortunately, the only portable that seems to be
able to support a large enough hard drive for the dev kit is the compaq
"luggable". It also is the only one that has a bus and card slots that can
support an external color monitor. (I would like to use the big color monitor
at my base location.)
Does anyone know of a existing or up coming option to this compaq beast which
weights 17.5 POUNDS and can cost a pretty penny?
Is anyone using this device? Any problems? Know where to get a good price?
Many thanx in advance!
Sincerely,
Maurice Rabb
ltinyman@leland.stanford.edu
415-965-4500
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Routers
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.210530.6071@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 21:05:30 GMT
I need contact information and any comments on the Nethopper and the
Rockwell Dialup router,
Thanks
--
Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome)
The Weston Group
8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: Problem with NEXTSTEP 3.1 fip CDs (please read and pass this info on!!)
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.225309.15578@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 4 Aug 93 22:53:09 EDT
References: <23m021$7l1@menudo.uh.edu>
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
In article <23m021$7l1@menudo.uh.edu>, sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:
>
> (Please alert your vendor of this potential problem!!! Also tell anyone you
> know who isn't on the net...)
>
> We have discovered a potentially serious problems with some shipments of
> NEXTSTEP 3.1/fip CDs that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to install NEXTSTEP on any
> hardware because the CD cannot be read:
>
> There seems to have been a defect in the packaging phase during the
> production of batch of NEXTSTEP 3.1 CDs. These CDs are "fogged." That is,
> they have a thin film over the back of the CD (side opposite of the label).
> At first we thought it was due to humidity, but now we are not sure what it
> is. However, we believe that the defect happened during the packaging phase
> because all of our 22 copies (from the same shipment) of NEXTSTEP 3.1/fip
> had this film. Copies from an earlier shipment were fine.
>
> We believe that this is not an isolated incident and that other shipments
> may also be affected.
>
> This problem can be fixed if you carefully clean the CD. We sucessfully
> used "computer screen cleaner" and Windex without any problems. Apply the
> cleaner to a lint-free cloth and wipe the film off the CD. After the CD is
> cleaned, installation and use of the CD should be problem free (that is if
> there aren't any other problems like hardware incompatiblity).
>
> We would like to know if you come across a CD with this "defect" so please
> send me email.
>
> You can send email if you have any questions too!
>
> --
> Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
> The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
> Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
> NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
> >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
> "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Yes - We received 13 copies from NACSCorp - Academic packages. All 13
packages have both user and developer disks fogged. The coating seems
slightly sticky, also. I used Windex also and a soft cloth and got the
disks to read.
I called NeXT and informed them of the problem - I am really disappointed
in NeXT - We are not terribly inconvenienced but this incident seems to
be one more tiny way in which NeXT is trying to kill its great software.
A little more attention to details in manufacturing would really help
NeXTstep! (Just letting off a bit of smoke - NeXT had not shown
a lot of care in handling "details" with its hardware sales and support
and seems to be right on its old track, here.)
Thomas J. Herbert
Department of Biology
University of Miami
therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: brian@wucs1.wustl.edu (Brian)
Subject: Re: SOUND BOX: how to open?
Message-ID: <1993Aug5.033843.22702@wuecl.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO
References: <blaine-020893123642@catgw05.catt.ncsu.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 03:38:43 GMT
In article <blaine-020893123642@catgw05.catt.ncsu.edu> blaine@catt.ncsu.edu
(Grey Mull) writes:
>
> How do I open my NeXT sound box???
>
>
From what I remember, you just need a screwdriver. I'm not sure what we did
with our Sound Boxes, so I can't look to be sure, but the screws are probably
under the rubber pads, if you can't see them.
brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory)
Subject: Need NSFIP printer recommendations
Message-ID: <1993Aug5.015442.2002@proforma.com>
Sender: jgg@proforma.com
Organization: LoftTech Incorporated
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 01:54:42 GMT
I have an immediate need to obtain a printer that will work with an
Intel GX Professional running NEXTSTEP. I would like to hear from
anyone who has a printer directly connected to an NSFIP machine.
I know the serial ports do not work, so they are out. Are there
parallel port solutions? Is the parallel port supported by NSFIP?
Are there color PostScript level II printers that work off the
parallel port? How about black&white? B-size? Is an ethernet
printer an option? Are their such things as SCSI printers?
By all means, if you know when the serial drivers will be fixed, let
me know! It could have significant impact on the decision.
Any and all information would be helpful. Reply via email, I will
summarize if asked. Thanks in advance. Vendor responses welcome; we
are looking to buy within 30 days.
--J Gregory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: 22hozak@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Kurt Hozak)
Subject: S3 928 cards, next driver release
Message-ID: <1993Aug5.042443.2917@sol.cs.wmich.edu>
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 04:24:43 GMT
We have a local bus machine that we would like to use with a local bus
graphics card. We have been told that our only choice now of a local
bus graphics card that works in color with NS is the JAWS card, which we
do not want to use.
I have called NeXT, but they could/would not tell what cards/chipsets
would be supported in the next driver release, which I have heard was
supposed to be released last month but will hopefully be shipping RSN.
Because we typically have a month delay due to the way purchasing is
handled, we would like to order a card now.
If you HAD to buy a FAST card NOW that was local bus and supported color,
what would you get, based on what NeXT will likely support?
We have heard that the S3 928 cards are good and popular, and thus will
likely be supported. Do you agree?
Thanks a lot!
Kurt Hozak
22hozak@cs.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: austin@netcom.com (Tony Austin)
Subject: HELP - Keyboard hangs on Gateway install
Message-ID: <austinCB9t7C.6pq@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 05:13:59 GMT
HELP - My keyboard hangs during install on a Gateway.
I get the "boot:" prompt I press return, it continues, it finds the
CD-ROM, it goes up to the point where it asks me to specify the
language to use, at this point the keyboard doesn't respond.
I've got the following:
Gateway 2000 486dx/2-66v
424 IDE drive
Adaptec SCSI 1542C controller
NEC-74, Toshiba CD-ROM(s) (Only one is on at a time)
SONY CD-ROM (non-SCSI)
ATI Ultra Pro w/2meg
24 Meg ram
I've followed the installation "instructions" to the letter. Any
help would be appretiated greatly.
Thanks,
Greg Lindholm
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need NSFIP printer recommendations
Date: 5 Aug 1993 05:33:36 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <23q63g$ees@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1993Aug5.015442.2002@proforma.com>
In article <1993Aug5.015442.2002@proforma.com> jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory) writes:
>I have an immediate need to obtain a printer that will work with an
>Intel GX Professional running NEXTSTEP. I would like to hear from
>anyone who has a printer directly connected to an NSFIP machine.
>
>I know the serial ports do not work, so they are out.
Huh, They work reliably enough at 9600 baud to get most things
done. Granted this isn't fun, buts not like they are totally gone.
> Are there
>parallel port solutions? Is the parallel port supported by NSFIP?
>Are there color PostScript level II printers that work off the
>parallel port? How about black&white? B-size? Is an ethernet
>printer an option? Are their such things as SCSI printers?
>
>By all means, if you know when the serial drivers will be fixed, let
>me know! It could have significant impact on the decision.
>
>Any and all information would be helpful. Reply via email, I will
>summarize if asked. Thanks in advance. Vendor responses welcome; we
>are looking to buy within 30 days.
HP has released the HP 4ML with level 2 postscript and 4 Megs memory
standard (B+W only). It runs roughly $1k. It has an 80960 (?) risc
processor. I don't know if it works with anything but Windoze/Mac. Its
comes with some specialized software, and the hardware itself has only
limited front panel controls. I called HP looking for PPD files and was
told that they only had a Version 8 driver for the Mac (yuck) and no
PPD files for the 4ML.
I suspect you may have to configure it initially under Windoze/Mac and then
it will work fine with NS, but I have to verify this.
It automatically switches between PS and PCL and does 4 ppm.
IMHO even slow serial 9600 should be usable until the new drivers come out.
I believe the 4ML has both serial and parallel, perhaps even the enhanced
parallel that HP has been advocating.
=======
Editoral Comment:
HEY NEXT, how about some Serial Drivers and SLIP support already. A lot of
us bought these things to run at home. Please!
=======
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: EISA ATI Graphics Ultra Pro won't work, any ideas?
Date: 5 Aug 1993 08:58:23 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Sender: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk
Message-ID: <23qi3fINN5rj@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
References: <23p615INNaqq@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
In article <1993Aug4.231155.1826@adobe.com> pasqua@adobe.com writes:
>When you see the message:
> "Assuming ATI is local bus"
>it means that the device driver failed to determine whether the ATI card is
>EISA, ISA, or VLB. In that case it just assumes that it is a VLB card.
...
>I have run an EISA GUP in several machines including Compaq's and NEC's and it
>worked just fine. By the way, does your motherboard have a built-in display
>controller (like a super VGA)? If so, it needs to be disabled for the GUP to
>work properly.
No, the motherboard doesn't have built-in vga. It does seem like the ATI
is a recent version.. when NS boots up, it scans the eisa slots and finds
the card in slot #4. Its number is 4402. When I installed the CFG file
for the card, only ati4400.cfg was available on the disk and I used that.
Could it be that NS recognizes the card by its number? Has the number changed,
does anyone have an ati that's recognized as 4402 and works?
Ari
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jds@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (John D Stanhope)
Subject: What modem would you recommend
Message-ID: <CB96o6.H30@netnews.jhuapl.edu>
Sender: usenet@netnews.jhuapl.edu
Organization: Johns Hopkins U. Applied Physics Lab
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 21:07:18 GMT
I realize that NS/i serial drivers are useless but when they fix
them I want to setup a slip connection at 14400. What kind of modem
would best suit this situation? I would also like to know what slip
or other useful communication program exist for us losers who missed
out on the balck hardware.
--jds
----------------------------------------------------
Otto "Apes don't read philoshpy"
Wanda "Yes they do, they just don't understand it"
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From: user1@valis.ampr.ab.ca (Kevin Fluet)
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
References: <1993Aug1.004010.3485@cs.yale.edu> <1993Aug1.214458.7599@BlueRose.com>
Organization: V.A.L.I.S. Public Access Linux, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 16:44:14 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug4.164414.10497@valis.ampr.ab.ca>
m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes:
>In article <1993Aug1.004010.3485@cs.yale.edu> bobf@milne.geology.yale.edu
>(Bob Fischer) writes:
>> The best way to see if system X works with NeXTSTEP is to call NeXT.
>Not quite true. There are many systems which work that NeXT has not
>tested. The best way to see if system X works with NEXTSTEP is to test it.
>M Carling
>President, Bay Area NeXT Group
What!? You're saying that if I want to run NeXSTEP, I should go out and
spend thousands of dollars on a machine and thousands of dollars for
NeXSTEP, and THEN see if the two work together? Gimme a break!
-- Kevin
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From: pjt@snakemail.hut.fi (Pekka J Taipale)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Date: 05 Aug 93 10:55:36 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <PJT.93Aug5125536@gamma.hut.fi>
References: <1993Aug1.004010.3485@cs.yale.edu> <1993Aug1.214458.7599@BlueRose.com>
<1993Aug4.164414.10497@valis.ampr.ab.ca>
In-reply-to: user1@valis.ampr.ab.ca's message of Wed, 4 Aug 1993 16:44:14 GMT
In article <1993Aug4.164414.10497@valis.ampr.ab.ca> user1@valis.ampr.ab.ca (Kevin Fluet) writes:
>What!? You're saying that if I want to run NeXSTEP, I should go out and
>spend thousands of dollars on a machine and thousands of dollars for
>NeXSTEP, and THEN see if the two work together? Gimme a break!
If you WANT to run NeXSTEP, you'll spend that thousands of dollars for
NeXSTEP anyway (or otherwise acquire the OS), right?
Then you'll just walk to the dealer and test it. A good dealer will
allow you to test an OS his machine and will, in fact, be interested
in the results as well. A bad dealer won't, but then you shouldn't buy
your computer from such a place anyway.
So what's the big deal?
--
Pekka.Taipale@hut.fi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: stefan@initiera.upnet.se (Stefan Kruger)
Subject: TsengLabs won't work
Message-ID: <1993Aug5.101237.15087@sics.se>
Sender: news@sics.se
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 10:12:37 GMT
Anyone's got any experience of the TsengLabs ET-4000AX ?
We get lots of errors of the type
can't open FrameBuffer
and then, screen goes black.
Works fine in standard VGA mode.
--
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_)| (/ | (_| |) |\ | (_| (_| (/ | Initiera Systemdesign AB
| _) Email: stefan@initiera.upnet.se
From: gadinger@galadriel.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Gadinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can one use a HP Deskjet 500C with NS 3.1?
Date: 5 Aug 1993 10:34:07 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <23qnmv$ab@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Keywords: NeXT printing
O.K., it IS a silly question - is there a way to hook a HP DJ 500C to NS
3.1 on a 486? Do HP sell a driver or something to make these lowmarket
things (software side) PostScriptable? Please tell if you know!
Alex Wilkie, currently no email@addr! (sorry)
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Notebook computers
Message-ID: <18156@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 5 Aug 93 13:56:58 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
I would appreciate hearing from people who have had good experience
with installing NS/FIP on a notebook computer. What is the model and
options you have and where and for how much was the machine purchased?
Are you pleased with performance?
Thanks very much for your help, Yadin.
yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu
From: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI GUP + EISA : solved
Date: 5 Aug 1993 14:52:47 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Sender: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23r6rvINNfk6@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Hi,
I posted earlier about problems I had with my ATI Graphics Ultra Pro on
my homebrew EISA system.
It turns out that the ATI board is a new version, and ATI4402 is the new
id number for it. To get the board to work, I had to hack the driver.
But Next says that they are bringing out drivers which can handle the
new card.
Now my attention turns to the speed of the card, are there any benchmark
programs out there which could measure video performance? Any results
to compare them with?
Ari
From: npratt@madmax.modsys (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need NSFIP printer recommendations
Date: 5 Aug 1993 16:06:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23rb6a$dsb@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <23q63g$ees@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article ees@news.acns.nwu.edu, jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
> HP has released the HP 4ML with level 2 postscript and 4 Megs memory
> standard (B+W only). It runs roughly $1k. It has an 80960 (?) risc
> processor. I don't know if it works with anything but Windoze/Mac. Its
> comes with some specialized software, and the hardware itself has only
> limited front panel controls. I called HP looking for PPD files and was
> told that they only had a Version 8 driver for the Mac (yuck) and no
> PPD files for the 4ML.
My recommendation:
Buy a basic (no extra memory, no PostScript) HP 4 (not the 4ML or the 4M), hook
it up parallel, and buy Dots from Alembic Systems to drive it. Let NeXTSTEP
do the rastorizing-- just like the old black laser did.
You'll get 600 DPI instead of 300 DPI, unlimited printer memory, and automatic
PostScript upgrades that way, for roughly the same money as an HP 4ML.
Nevin
From: npratt@madmax.modsys (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Date: 5 Aug 1993 16:10:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23rbe6$dsb@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <1993Aug4.164414.10497@valis.ampr.ab.ca>
In article 10497@valis.ampr.ab.ca, user1@valis.ampr.ab.ca (Kevin Fluet) writes:
> >> The best way to see if system X works with NeXTSTEP is to call NeXT.
>
> >Not quite true. There are many systems which work that NeXT has not
> >tested. The best way to see if system X works with NEXTSTEP is to test it.
>
> >M Carling
> >President, Bay Area NeXT Group
>
> What!? You're saying that if I want to run NeXSTEP, I should go out and
> spend thousands of dollars on a machine and thousands of dollars for
> NeXSTEP, and THEN see if the two work together? Gimme a break!
>
> -- Kevin
That's what I did. It worked fine.
Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Power Backup Autoshutdown NS/FIP
Message-ID: <MAX.93Aug5113513@Kolmogorov.gac.edu>
From: max@Kolmogorov.gac.edu (Max Hailperin)
Date: 5 Aug 93 11:35:13
References: <1993Aug4.133959.545@vlsi.polymtl.ca>
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, MN
In-reply-to: jmh@iro.umontreal.ca's message of Wed, 4 Aug 1993 13:39:59 GMT
In article <1993Aug4.133959.545@vlsi.polymtl.ca> jmh@iro.umontreal.ca
(Jean-Marc Heneman) writes:
Is there a driver to support autoshutdown on power failure via power
backup like UPS device?
I patched Best's CheckUPS shutdown program (generic BSD Unix version)
to work with NeXTstep, and also worked out (with help from their tech
support) what the cable needed to look like to connect the Best
Fortress's communications port to a NeXT serial port (black hardware
-- for white hardware the cable Best provides should work).
I provided the information to Best's tech support people, so they
should probably be able to find it in their files (under NeXT) and
pass it on to you. Alternatively, if that fails you can get it from
me. Note that what I did was patch a program that Best sells for
money (and owns the copyright on), so I can't just give you the whole
program in already-patched form.
For the record, I'm real happy with Best. They're phone is (800)
356-5794, or outside the US+Canada 1+ (608) 565-7200. Note that their
products are available much more cheaply from resellers that direct
from Best. I bought through Quality Power Products, (800) 525-7502 or
1+ (404) 242-1901, and am also very happy with them.
-Max Hailperin
Gustavus Adolphus College
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eric%basilisk@src.honeywell.com (Eric D. Engstrom)
Subject: Re: Mouse pinouts; FAQ I'm sure
Message-ID: <CBAnrv.CG7@basilisk.uucp>
Sender: eric@basilisk.uucp (Eric D. Engstrom)
Organization: anonymous
References: <CB3Euw.11u@infoserv.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 16:14:18 GMT
kevins@bmd.com writes:
> #I am interested in changing the mouse on my NEXTSTATION Color. Anyone
> happen to #know the pinouts so I can add a PS/2 (serial I guess) type
> mouse???
kent@infoserv.com replies:
> You need a mouse with quadrature output. An Amiga/Atari type mouse
> will work with a cable hack.
> (No, I don't have the cable hack around. I did post it twice a couple of
> months ago. Maybe someone else has it.)
I saved it. (BTW, it is also possible to hack a Logitech mouse up, though
I've not done it)
Eric
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Trackballs - detail
Date: 17 Apr 93 00:11:34 GMT
Reply-To: kent@infoserv.com
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
My original post was this
: For those interested I have connected a Kraft TripleTrack trackball for
: the Amiga/Atari. It works and the feel isn't too bad. I've dumped the
: mouse and the only disadvantage is that the unit isn't black.
: It has a drag lock button that is great for moving files, etc.
: The cost around here at the local Amiga stores is $45.00.
: I have it wired in the Atari mode but the Amiga mode also works.
: Kent
:
This is a non-ADB system (if it was ADB I wouldn't be worried about a
trackball).
The NeXT pinouts are as follows and can be obtained from the reference
manuals.
6 7 8
3 4 5
1 2
Signals:
1 +5V
2 XA
3 XB
4 YA
5 YB
6 Right Button
7 Left Button
8 Ground
Shell Chassis Ground
Now on the Amiga/Atari the connector is different and needs a cable hack.
The connector looks like this:
-------------------
\ 5 4 3 2 1 /
\ 9 8 7 6 /
--------------
For the Amiga
1 V pulse
2 H pulse
3 VQ pulse
4 HQ pulse
5 Middle button (optional)
6 Left Button
7 +5V
8 Ground
9 Right Button
I connected the mouse as follows
NeXT Amiga
-----------------------------
+5V +5V
XA HQ pulse
XB H pulse
YA VQ pulse
YB V pulse
RB Right Button
LB Left Button
Ground Ground
For The Atari
1 XB
2 XA
3 YB
4 YA
5 Middle Button (optional)
6 Left Button
7 +5V
8 Ground
9 Right Button
So I set in the Atari ST mode and opened the case removed the original
cable and used an old serial cable to make a new cable to connect to the
NeXT. I found that the mouse worked better in the Atari mode vs. the Amiga
mode when wired correctly although both will work. The Atari mode seemed
to offer better control.
Will need an Ohm meter to determine which pin corresponds to which wire in
the
mouse, actually a simple test light will work.
I have scrapped my mouse - LONG LIVE MY TRACKBALL. (No I don't plan to sell
the mouse because I may decide to use it later.)
BTW - This trackball is set up so that you move the ball wit you fingers
and click with your thumb. To activate the drag hold button you use your
forefinger (right hand). When wired the center button behaves as the
NeXT right button and the two outside buttons are the left button.
From: dgd@nantucket.West.Sun.COM (Dan Donovan - Sun San Francisco SE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Maxtor MXT-1240N and NeXTSTEP
Date: 5 Aug 1993 17:01:26 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23red6INNgn8@west.West.Sun.COM>
References: <CB9LFL.6o@ripple.uunet>
In article 6o@ripple.uunet, df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes:
>
>Maxtor MXT-1240N
>Has anyone gotten this drive to work with NeXTs?
>
>I have tried in on a NeXT and on an Intel GX Pro, in both cases I get SCSI
>errors (on the NeXT it gets something like sc: unsynch msg, on the GX with an
>Adaptec 1542c (that works with other drives) I get SCSI timeout during init).
>
>I called Maxtor and there is special "generic" as they call it firmware for the
>Mac, and some other kind of firmware... well I don't have the kind for the Mac
>and it will not work.
>
>What are people using for drives >1GIG (SCSI, 3.5") for either NeXT's or Intel
>boxes.
>
>Thanks
>
>Dirk Fromhein
>df@watershed.com
Dirk,
I have used mine on both my NeXTcube (now gone) and currently on a 486 box with
an Adaptec 1542B. No problems to report.
Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes)
Subject: Where to get info on IntelGX machines?
Message-ID: <CBAv0v.I78.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 18:50:55 GMT
I called up Intel today to get some literature on their P/GX machines
to run NeXTStep on, and the guy I talked to on their literature line
denies that any such beast exists, "we only make processors". This is
the same guy I got last night too. I know Intel makes PC's - we have
a few at work - all I want is literature and specs - anybody out there
know where I can get this from?
Thanks,
Aaron
--
Aaron Hughes DoD#0482 The Freedom Junkie
rane+@pulsar.fac.cs.cmu.edu Bad cop. No donut.
From: christ@park.bu.edu (Christian Mannes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP - possessed new NeXT printer
Date: 5 Aug 93 16:56:40
Organization: B.U. Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <CHRIST.93Aug5165640@park.bu.edu>
Hi,
I just bought and installed a new NeXT printer for my NextStation
color,
running 3.0, and the strangest things have happened: At first, the
monitor acted up, scrambling the image beyond recognition. Even more
strangely, the problem automagically vanished. The printer then
printed
a couple of pages ok, then started to transform everything into black
pages with periodic, thin white stripes. There is a faint impression
of the actual printed page there, but it's very hard to make out in
all that garbage.
Also, when I try nppower, I am told that /dev/np0 cannot be opened.
Maybe the whole thing has something to do with PrinterManager, which
I used to change the name of the printer several times.
Does anybody have any idea what this might be?
Thank you very much in advance,
Christian
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Christian Mannes
Dept. of Cognitive and Neural Systems
Boston University
christ@cns.bu.edu
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Christian Mannes
Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems
Boston University
christ@cns.bu.edu
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From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: Can one use a HP Deskjet 500C with NS 3.1?
Message-ID: <1993Aug5.211531.424@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <23qnmv$ab@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 93 21:15:31 GMT
In article <23qnmv$ab@email.tuwien.ac.at> gadinger@galadriel.tuwien.ac.at
(Anton Gadinger) writes:
> O.K., it IS a silly question - is there a way to hook a HP DJ 500C to NS
> 3.1 on a 486? Do HP sell a driver or something to make these lowmarket
> things (software side) PostScriptable? Please tell if you know!
>
> Alex Wilkie, currently no email@addr! (sorry)
We're selling a printer-driver, called "Dots", which allows you to output to
many non-PostScript printing devices, including the HP Deskjet 500C.
Dots uses NEXTSTEP Display PostScript to generate high quality PostScript
output. Printers that are connected with Dots are available throughout the
network, just like the NeXT Laserprinter.
Currently there are four different categories:
Dots monochrome supports
Epson 24 dot matrix printers (and compatible)
NEC 24 dot matrix printers (and compatible)
IBM Proprinter XL24 AGM (and compatible)
HP PCL II, III, V
Canon BJ-300/330 (and compatible)
Canon BJ-10/10e/10ex (and compatible)
HP LaserJet II, III, IV (and compatible)
HP DeskJet 500, 510
Dots color supports
HP Deskjet 500C
HP Deskjet 550C
HP Deskjet 1200C
HP Paintjet XL300
Dots CLC10 supports scanning and printing on the CJ 10 Canon Color Copier.
Dots CLC500 supports scanning and printing on the CLC300 and CLC500 Canon Color
Copiers.
All versions require NEXTSTEP 3.0 or NEXTSTEP 3.1.
Dots Version 3.3 or higher supports both Intel and Motorola CPUs.
Here are the list prices for the Dots driver package (per printer):
Europe International
Dots monochrome 198 DM 149 Dollars
Dots color 298 DM 199 Dollars
Dots CLC10 1.398 DM 799 Dollars
Dots CLC500 1.998 DM 1,199 Dollars
IMPORTANT: If you are using NEXTSTEP on non-NeXT hardware, you must add the
cost of a PostScript output license, which is (or will soon be) available from
NeXT.
Our current information is that the license fee for printers with a suggested
US retail price below 1,000 dollars is 50 dollars.
The HP Deskjet 500C and 550C are in that category. So the total cost for the
printer driver (Dots + PostScript output license) would be 249 dollars.
Dots is available from many NeXT resellers and distributors.
Our Austrian distributor is Hard & Soft NeXTcenter, Vienna
Our US distributor is Alembic Systems International, Englewood, Colorado
d'ART Software GmbH
Virchowstrasse 17-19
22767 Hamburg
Germany
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From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
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Message-ID: <1993Aug05.213741.15136@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1993 21:37:41 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1993Aug4.164414.10497@valis.ampr.ab.ca> <23rbe6$dsb@cnn.sim.es.com>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <23rbe6$dsb@cnn.sim.es.com>, npratt@madmax.modsys (Nevin Pratt) writes:
|> In article 10497@valis.ampr.ab.ca, user1@valis.ampr.ab.ca (Kevin Fluet) writes:
|>
|> > >> The best way to see if system X works with NeXTSTEP is to call NeXT.
|> >
|> > >Not quite true. There are many systems which work that NeXT has not
|> > >tested. The best way to see if system X works with NEXTSTEP is to test it.
|> >
|> > >M Carling
|> > >President, Bay Area NeXT Group
|> >
|> > What!? You're saying that if I want to run NeXSTEP, I should go out and
|> > spend thousands of dollars on a machine and thousands of dollars for
|> > NeXSTEP, and THEN see if the two work together? Gimme a break!
|> >
|> > -- Kevin
1) Chill out.
2) Many many many dealers in the land, will happily agree for you to attempt to install NeXTSTEP on their system. If it works, you buy the system, if not, keep shopping. You'd be surprised on the number of systems that work fine.
BUT
---
Make sure the video adapter, and SCSI card are on the hardware capability list else you are just wasting your time.
3) Don't want to buy NeXTSTEP first, ok fine, then buy a turn key solution from Epson, or Intel or Compaq or whatever.
4) You can build your own system. That's what I did. Saves you money, and you end up with something that works just great in the end too. But you have to be an adventurous lad with a bit of experience working under the hood to do it.
|>
|>
|> That's what I did. It worked fine.
|>
|> Nevin
Tom
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From: koelman@cuby.stc.nl (Ton Koelman)
Subject: Monochrome video for NeXTSTEP/FIP
Message-ID: <CBA646.BK3@stc.nato.int>
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 09:52:52 GMT
I'm thinking of going monochrome with NeXTSTEP/FIP.
What are my video (card+monitor) hardware options in general?
Please indicate prices.
thanks
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From: u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: HP Deskjet 500 and NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Aug5.233316.7945@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 23:33:16 GMT
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From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Subject: /dev/sg generic SCSI driver in NS/Intel
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 23:29:31 GMT
Hi,
I have an app for driving a SCSI scanner. It works fine under NS
black, but not under NS/I. I have added appropriate #ifdefs for
endianness but that isn't where the problem is occuring. The first
thing I do is to attach to each SCSI id in turn and send an inquire
command. Where there is no id, I get a select timeout, just as
expected. When I get to the scanner, I get a SR_IOST_RESET (Bus was
reset during processing of command according to <bsd/dev/scsireg.h>
Any ideas? What was resetting the bus, the system or the scanner?
By the way, we are using 3.1 PR1 on a Compaq DeskPro 66M, with a
DPT2012B SCSI adapter.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Re: Need NSFIP printer recommendations
Message-ID: <1993Aug6.002226.9347@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
References: <23q63g$ees@news.acns.nwu.edu> <23rb6a$dsb@cnn.sim.es.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 00:22:26 GMT
Nevin Pratt (npratt@madmax.modsys) wrote:
: In article ees@news.acns.nwu.edu, jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
: > HP has released the HP 4ML with level 2 postscript and 4 Megs memory
: > standard (B+W only). It runs roughly $1k. It has an 80960 (?) risc
: > processor. I don't know if it works with anything but Windoze/Mac. Its
: > comes with some specialized software, and the hardware itself has only
: > limited front panel controls. I called HP looking for PPD files and was
: > told that they only had a Version 8 driver for the Mac (yuck) and no
: > PPD files for the 4ML.
: My recommendation:
: Buy a basic (no extra memory, no PostScript) HP 4 (not the 4ML or the 4M), hook
: it up parallel, and buy Dots from Alembic Systems to drive it. Let NeXTSTEP
: do the rastorizing-- just like the old black laser did.
: You'll get 600 DPI instead of 300 DPI, unlimited printer memory, and automatic
: PostScript upgrades that way, for roughly the same money as an HP 4ML.
: Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tutui@ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takashi TSUTSUI)
Subject: My PCI MB have NCR SCSI ctrlr
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Sender: news@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp
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Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 00:50:20 GMT
Hi,
I have just bought a pci mother board, and it works as poor as
the old pc's MB with next step using adaptec controller.
Adaptec seems to be suseptive to electric noise to the other peripherall
connected with scsi. It hangs by the adaptec.
Putting aside the adaptec, I would like to use the on
board NCR scsi II coroller. Does anyone have already bought such MBs?
Or does any one have any idea or driver to use NCR scsi controller?
--
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Dept. of Medical Informatics ,KYOTO Univ. Hospital
SAKYO-ku KYOTO JAPAN Zip 606 Phone +81-75-751-3647
Fax +81-75-771-3826
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From: kbacon@austin.onu.edu (C0d3 M0n$t3r)
Subject: Re: ATI GUP + EISA : solved
Sender: usenet@austin.onu.edu (Network News owner)
Message-ID: <1993Aug6.015151.128289@austin.onu.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 01:51:51 GMT
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Organization: Ohio Northern University
Ari P Laakkonen (apl@doc.ic.ac.uk) wrote:
: Hi,
: I posted earlier about problems I had with my ATI Graphics Ultra Pro on
: my homebrew EISA system.
: It turns out that the ATI board is a new version, and ATI4402 is the new
: id number for it. To get the board to work, I had to hack the driver.
: But Next says that they are bringing out drivers which can handle the
: new card.
: Now my attention turns to the speed of the card, are there any benchmark
: programs out there which could measure video performance? Any results
: to compare them with?
NXBench would be what you are looking for...avail. at major NS sites in MAB/FAT
form.
: Ari
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From: benkt@ie1next.me.umn.edu ()
Subject: Floppy doesn't work under NS/I
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Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 03:06:36 GMT
Hi:
I am runnning a Gateway2000 with NS/I. I used to have a Adaptec
1542c and a bad Gateway2000 motherboard (the on board floppy slot doesn't
work). The floppy worked find. Now, I have a 1542B and a fully
functional Gateway 2000 motherboard. Now the Check for DISK doesn't work
for the NS/I.
If you have some information on how to set the configuration on
the Adaptec 1542B, please send me email!
Thanks in advance
Ben
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ken@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
In-Reply-To: stefan@initiera2's message of Wed, 4 Aug 1993 09:22:04 GMT
Message-ID: <KEN.93Aug6120247@nobunaga.phys.titech.ac.jp>
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References: <1993Jul13.133456.5590@xlan.fdn.org> <1993Aug4.092204.8932@sics.se>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 03:02:47 GMT
In article <1993Aug4.092204.8932@sics.se> stefan@initiera2 (Stefan Kruger) writes:
In article <1993Jul13.133456.5590@xlan.fdn.org> pspriet@xlan.fdn.org (Paul
Spriet) writes:
> In article <15745@blue.cis.pitt.edu> cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
> writes:
....
> > It is UNUSABLE for network applications, the entire reason we are
> > evaluating new operating systems. Unixware is back on the machine.
> >
> > C'est la NeXT!
> >
> I think that guys like you are UNUSABLE too !
......
> Don't talk about NeXTStep anymore, that will save you from saying stupid
> things.
Hey - don't make the mistake of coming down on people like a ton of
bricks just because they experience problems that YOU find ridiciulous.
Well, I did find the flame a bit too much, but on the other hand,
I too found the sweeping statement in the original article annoying.
To my knowledge, NS is NOT unuseable for network applications.
Yes, the serial driver seems to be buggy.
But it should be pointed out, IMO, that
Installations into heavy duty networking will be using ethernet.
I have not noticed anybody mentioning serious problems on this aspect.
Also, some people have reported that the serial port *does* work
for slower speeds (seem to depend on the config, some say
up to 9600..) So it is not completely out.
Hopefully, the serial driver fix will be out any minute....
We all benefit from NeXTSTEP gaining market shares - so please show
some understanding !
Stefan
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**
> > ** Networked Information Services Group / Technical Services
**
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**
> > ** ...the most respected piece of software on the planet BYTE10/92
**
>
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> +----------------------------------------------------------+
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Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Message-ID: <1993Aug5.135032.3138@Princeton.EDU>
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References: <1993Aug4.164414.10497@valis.ampr.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 13:50:32 GMT
In article <1993Aug4.164414.10497@valis.ampr.ab.ca>
user1@valis.ampr.ab.ca (Kevin Fluet) writes:
> m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes:
> What!? You're saying that if I want to run NeXSTEP, I should go out
and
> spend thousands of dollars on a machine and thousands of dollars for
> NeXSTEP, and THEN see if the two work together? Gimme a break!
Not necessarily the point. If you find a good vendor, retail or mail
order, they should be willing to work with you to find something that
works. A vendor that is not interested in selling a high end PC, to
help you run NEXTSTEP, may not be worth your time.
Phil
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Soemthing did not work Was...Re: TsengLabs won't work
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 13:53:28 GMT
In article <1993Aug5.101237.15087@sics.se> stefan@initiera.upnet.se
(Stefan Kruger) writes:
> Anyone's got any experience of the TsengLabs ET-4000AX ?
> We get lots of errors of the type
> can't open FrameBuffer
>
> and then, screen goes black.
> Works fine in standard VGA mode.
Yes, I tested this one. No glitches to report. Worked great in 1024
by 768 in 2 bit grey, and pretty fast too, with just 12 meg of RAM.
Your problem probably lies elsewhere.
Good luck,
Phil
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Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes)
Subject: Help me choose-Mac 840av or Intel box + NeXTStep for Intel
Message-ID: <CBBrx5.EtI.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 06:41:29 GMT
I'm sure you are all tired of people asking for these kind
of reccomendations, but here I am anyway :)
I am pretty familiar with NeXT's and NS - I should be, I play
unofficial administrator here at CMU's cs department for our
NeXT machines, and I have one on loan from the dept, here in
my apartment ( coming to you live via SLIP). I'm also fairly
familiar with Mac's - my parents own a IIci, which I helped
them choose.
My consternation lies in the fact that I wish to get into
rendering/animation/basic virtual reality stuff. The
840av comes with a ton of stuff that I could really find
useful in this regard - 24 bit color built in (well, I need
to add a little VRAM to get 24bits, but thats trivial), a DSP,
NTSC video IO and capture, 40 MHZ 68040, the ability to go to
128 megs of RAM on the motherboard, and an upgrade path to the
new PowerPC architecture when it becomes available (there are
other things as well that I find pretty neat, but don't relate
to graphics). For approx. $3400 I can get 8megs of RAM, 230 megs
of drive space, 14" monitor, keybd,mouse - the basics, (through
U of Pitt's bookstore - I just work here, I'm a student there.)
I haven't really priced a similar intel configuration, though I
imagine for one of the GX boxes, graphics card, monitor, drive and
controller, RAM, and operating system, the price will be about
the same - probably a little more.
I realize that NSI comes with RenderMan (which is what I would use
on the Mac) and while I like the OS, the lack of Apps and 24bit color
on NextStep nags at me.
I suppose I could go with OS/2 or Windows, but 1) yuk 2) I'd really
rather not and 3) I wouldn't really need NeXTStep then.
Is 24 bit color support on the way?
Is there anything that I missed? I'm sure there is.
Thanks,
Aaron
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From: u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: 3-button mouse and NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Aug6.072926.18126@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 07:29:26 GMT
Hi,
I have a 3 button, mouse system and MS compitable mouse connect to my PC
running NS/FIP. When Iuse the mouse in MS mode ( that is, 2 button ), it works
just fine. When I use it in mouse system mode ( 3 button mode ), it does not
work. When I connect a Logitech serial mouse ( 3 button mode only ), it doesn't
work. How can I use a Logitech 3 button serial mouse to work with NS/FIP?
TC Huang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Problems with 1742 SCSI
Message-ID: <1993Aug6.043410.18424@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug3.160453.16758@oops.se>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 04:34:10 GMT
In article <1993Aug3.160453.16758@oops.se> kjell@oops.se(Kjell Nilsson)
writes:
>
> I ve got a 1742 SCSI card its supposed to have 1542 B fallback mode or
be
> compatible but I can t
> get it to work, the installation just stopps.
There is a bug in Adaptec's firmware that prevents the 1742 from working
with NEXTSTEP's 1542 driver. NEXTSTEP 3.2 provides a workaround.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: TsengLabs won't work
Message-ID: <1993Aug6.043919.18486@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug5.101237.15087@sics.se>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 04:39:19 GMT
In article <1993Aug5.101237.15087@sics.se> stefan@initiera.upnet.se
(Stefan Kruger) writes:
> Anyone's got any experience of the TsengLabs ET-4000AX ?
> We get lots of errors of the type
> can't open FrameBuffer
The TsengLabs ET-4000AX driver in NEXTSTEP 3.1 does not support every card
that uses the chipset.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: marcus@amg (Marcus Brueggemann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP on monochrome Monitors
Date: 6 Aug 1993 14:01:16 GMT
Organization: AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23to7cINN284@hagen.amg.de>
Keywords: NeXTSTEP,INTEL,Monitor,mono
Hi!
Can anybody tell me what monochrome Monitors do work with a Tseng E4000
Graphics-Adapter. I was wondering if there are any 17" or 19"
Mono-Monitors on the market.
If anybody has some experiance with Mono-Displays and NS/FIP please let me
know.
Marcus Brueggemann
AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH
From: hugh@ear.mit.edu (Hugh Secker-Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,mit.bboard
Subject: Pop goes the NeXTstation
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 6 Aug 93 10:12:28
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <HUGH.93Aug6101228@ear.mit.edu>
I had to power-cycle my NeXTstation (mono) last night in preparation
for upgrading to 3.1. When I switched the power strip back on I was
greeted by a sickening "pop" from the back of the monitor. The
peripherals (SCSI disk, CD-ROM, modem) appear to be fine, but the
NeXTstation is dead, totally unresponsive to presses of the Power key.
I don't have a service contract so I need to settle on a repair course
and get back in business. I'd appreciate suggestions from anyone
having had a similar failure or any Hardware Detectives on how to go
about isolating the problem; please respond via email, I'll summarize.
Here are some more details:
I had to power-down in order to connect the CD-ROM drive I borrowed to
install 3.1. I have the Preferences set to power-up automatically
which means the machine goes through its power-down sequence, the
monitor shuts down, and then it switches right back on. As usual, I
switched off the power strip as soon as the monitor shut down. As
usual, the monitor clicked and flashed for a moment as it tried to
switch back on; I've always hated that.
I connected the CD-ROM drive to my external SCSI drive. I've used
this CD drive with no problems on two separate occasions. Although I
had connected this drive to the SCSI chain and had its power switch
on, I had failed to plug it into the power strip. I don't know if
this oversight could have anything to do with the problem.
As I said, when I switched the power strip back on I heard a "pop"
from the back of the monitor. It sounded like the pop that
loudspeakers make when a really cheap stereo is turned on. I don't
know if it came from the monitor's speaker (there was no fried
resistor smell or anything like that). I pressed the Power key
on the keyboard, but nothing happened. I switched the power strip
off.
I confirmed that the power strip was working, and the the SCSI drive,
CD-ROM drive, and modem had not blown fuses and powered-up or spun-up
by themselves. I didn't check the printer. The problem appears to be
isolated to the NeXTstation/monitor hardware.
I opened up the pizza box but didn't see anything amiss; however, my
inspection was cursory and I didn't open the power supply. Finally I
set up the pizza box, monitor, keyboard and mouse with no peripherals
and tried one last time. Nothing happened when the power strip was
turned on and nothing happened when the Power key was pressed. I went
to bed :-(
Any suggestions on how to proceed would be appreciated. I can easily
work with the electronics inside the pizza box or monitor, although I
haven't yet opened up the monitor. I have access to a cube but I
hesitate to start mixing and matching for fear that my pizza box could
blow up someone else's monitor; unlikely I know, but the cube is being
used to write a PhD thesis, i.e. mission critical.
Thanks in advance.
Hugh
--
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jon@afs.com
Subject: Re: NS/FIP on monochrome Monitors
Message-ID: <1993Aug6.163221.1602@afs.com>
Sender: jon@afs.com
References: <23to7cINN284@hagen.amg.de>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 16:32:21 GMT
In article <23to7cINN284@hagen.amg.de> marcus@amg (Marcus Brueggemann) writes:
| Hi!
|
| Can anybody tell me what monochrome Monitors do work with a Tseng E4000
| Graphics-Adapter. I was wondering if there are any 17" or 19"
| Mono-Monitors on the market.
| If anybody has some experiance with Mono-Displays and NS/FIP please let me
| know.
|
| Marcus Brueggemann
| AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH
You might have more luck looking in the Macintosh market. I believe Radius and
Supermac both sell large grayscale monitors. Whether or not they will work with
a PC graphics board, I can't say. Most likely you should try contacting them
directly. (Sorry, I don't have any numbers).
Good luck.
--
Jon Hendry
<jon@afs.com>
Jiggers! It's the cops!
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need NSFIP printer recommendations
Date: 6 Aug 1993 17:45:01 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23u5at$psr@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <23q63g$ees@news.acns.nwu.edu> <23rb6a$dsb@cnn.sim.es.com>
In article <23rb6a$dsb@cnn.sim.es.com> you write:
>My recommendation:
>
>Buy a basic (no extra memory, no PostScript) HP 4 (not the 4ML or the 4M), hook
>it up parallel, and buy Dots from Alembic Systems to drive it. Let NeXTSTEP
>do the rastorizing-- just like the old black laser did.
>
>You'll get 600 DPI instead of 300 DPI, unlimited printer memory, and automatic
>PostScript upgrades that way, for roughly the same money as an HP 4ML.
>
>Nevin
>
Interesting solution but the bare HP4 goes for around $300 more than the
HP4ML (ML=~$950 equal discounts etc weighed in), not counting the $200 or so
for Dots. I think this is roughly equal to the 4M in cost. Where are you
buying your HP4's from?
Personally, this is getting way over my budget. Not that I wouldn't like the
extra speed and resolution. If I had a III or 4 laying around here I'd
might give it a go. I'm not as concerned with the memory problem as we've
been using III's with postscript cards and 2MB ram on our Black machines at
work for years w/o problems.
Getting a PPD file or "driver" is another hassle admittedly. It probably
runs fine with an PPD from an older model, but the tech support consultants
at HP are so DOS-Brain-Dead that they think everthing from the toaster to
the lawn sprinker requires a "new" driver these days. I used to think that
PC's (+ DOS/Windows applications) were in perpetual BETA Hell. Now I just
think they are in perpetual BETA driver Hell.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: jon@starburst.umd.edu (Jonathan Kruger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Do NOT use 3c509 card with NS/FIP!
Date: 6 Aug 1993 19:07:07 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <23ua4rINNa34@cbl.umd.edu>
When I configured my 486 system on a component level I figured the
3c509 was the ideal card. In DOS PC's it is MUCH faster than the
other two supported cards (Intel EtherExpress and SMC Elite 16).
As it turns out, the 3c509 is NOT designed to work in UNIX PC's. I
tried several configurations on the card and the best performance I
could get out of the card was 30 KB/sec on large ftp batches. NFS was
also very slow when it didn't timeout or crash the machine. Another
lovely feature I discovered was that a very brief interruption in the
thinnet wiring would cause a panic.
Anyway, I ordered an SMC Elite16 Combo card from PC Connection ($139 +
$5 for overnight delivery) and being sure to run Configure *BEFORE*
switching cards, I installed it.
Now ftp gives me a transfer rate of ~120 KB/sec, NFS works like a
charm, and I can unplug the ethernet and it doesn't crash!
Performance still isn't that hot, and I know there are bugs in this
driver, but hopefully we can expect some serious improvements when the
new drivers come out. At least it's usable, unlike the 3c509...
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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U of MD Center for Environmental and Estuarine Studies, Chesapeake Bio Lab
From: npratt@madmax.modsys (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need NSFIP printer recommendations
Date: 6 Aug 1993 19:55:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23ucvm$hp0@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <23u5at$psr@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article psr@news.acns.nwu.edu, jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
>
> In article <23rb6a$dsb@cnn.sim.es.com> you write:
> >My recommendation:
> >
> >Buy a basic (no extra memory, no PostScript) HP 4 (not the 4ML or the 4M), hook
> >it up parallel, and buy Dots from Alembic Systems to drive it. Let NeXTSTEP
> >do the rastorizing-- just like the old black laser did.
> >
> >You'll get 600 DPI instead of 300 DPI, unlimited printer memory, and automatic
> >PostScript upgrades that way, for roughly the same money as an HP 4ML.
>
> Interesting solution but the bare HP4 goes for around $300 more than the
> HP4ML (ML=~$950 equal discounts etc weighed in), not counting the $200 or so
> for Dots. I think this is roughly equal to the 4M in cost. Where are you
> buying your HP4's from?
You're partly right. An HP4ML =~ $950, HP4 =~$1300, HP4M =~$1800,
HP4 + Dots =~ $1500.
> Personally, this is getting way over my budget. Not that I wouldn't like the
> extra speed and resolution. If I had a III or 4 laying around here I'd
> might give it a go. I'm not as concerned with the memory problem as we've
> been using III's with postscript cards and 2MB ram on our Black machines at
> work for years w/o problems.
Dots will drive all the various HP lasers, so this is another option with a II
or a III without a postscript card.
So, I guess we have a number of options at a number of price points.
Incidentally, contrary to what I previously believed, my NS/FIP drove a
24-pin Epson dot-matrix right out of the box, so apparently the dot-matrix
support that came into existence on the black machines starting with NS 3.0
is also there for NS/FIP, in spite of the Postscript licensing change.
Nevin
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From: dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield)
Subject: Re: Gateway 2000, chickens, and eggs. Help!
In-Reply-To: chris@aardvark.rain.com's message of Wed, 4 Aug 1993 03:54:43 GMT
Message-ID: <DEAN.93Aug6113028@world.std.com>
Sender: dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <CB7uv8.1LC@aardvark.rain.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 16:30:28 GMT
I can answer the BONUS question:
How do you bypass the memory check in a Gateway 2000 boot sequence?
Hit the spacebar. Not documented. Has helped as I am now aware of the
keyboard thing (although not yet tried it), and I have rebooted alot!
-Dean
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Darien, CT 06820
From: morrison@ppc.ubc.ca (Rick Morrison - ppc sysadm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Colour Film Recorders for NeXT/Unix
Date: 6 Aug 1993 21:38:34 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23uj0q$g57@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
We have been considering the purchase of a colour film recorder.
Most of the devices appear to be dumb, with the smarts being
provided in software (e.g. the Agfa Procolor Premier).
Unfortunately, Agfa charges ~ $20k for its Postscript
support (hardware).
There is plenty of support for DOS and Macintosh.
Can someone recommend a hardware + software solution
to producing colour slides for NeXT?
- Rick
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Morrison Tel: 604/822-6063
System Manager, Laboratory for Process Control Fax: 604/822-8563
UBC Pulp & Paper Centre Internet: morrison@ppc.ubc.ca
2385 East Mall
Vancouver, B.C.
Canada V6T 1Z4
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP - Keyboard hangs on Gateway install
Date: 7 Aug 1993 00:27:14 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <23ust2$59f@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <austinCB9t7C.6pq@netcom.com>
In article <austinCB9t7C.6pq@netcom.com> austin@netcom.com (Tony Austin)
writes:
#HELP - My keyboard hangs during install on a Gateway.
#
#I get the "boot:" prompt I press return, it continues, it finds the
#CD-ROM, it goes up to the point where it asks me to specify the
#language to use, at this point the keyboard doesn't respond.
#
#I've got the following:
# Gateway 2000 486dx/2-66v
# 424 IDE drive
# Adaptec SCSI 1542C controller
# NEC-74, Toshiba CD-ROM(s) (Only one is on at a time)
# SONY CD-ROM (non-SCSI)
# ATI Ultra Pro w/2meg
# 24 Meg ram
#
#I've followed the installation "instructions" to the letter. Any
#help would be appretiated greatly.
#
#Thanks,
#Greg Lindholm
#
If you have a recent model with the X30 Bios instead of the MCM2, then you
need to place a jumper on W7. Where is W7? If you can receive NEXTmail,
then I can send you a diagram of the location of the jumper and an
explanation of what the jumper does...
This really should be a FAQ by now.... Nathan? :-)
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: QMS-410 print problem
Date: 7 Aug 1993 02:17:28 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <23v3boINNk8r@gap.caltech.edu>
We have both a NeXT printer and a QMS-410 printer on
our network. When I send a multi-page document
to the NeXT printer its no problem, but when I send
the same docuemnt to the QMS-410, I only get the first three
pages and then I get an annoying "Due to a PostScript
language error ...". Well the postscript worked fine
on the next machine. Any suggestions?
advTHANKSance
John Stevenson
jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: How to see a Dos partition in a dual boot hard disk
Message-ID: <1993Aug7.033939.10440@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 03:39:39 GMT
From: christ@park.bu.edu (Christian Mannes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Printer puzzle, part II -- Any takers?
Date: 7 Aug 93 00:15:45
Organization: B.U. Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <CHRIST.93Aug7001545@park.bu.edu>
I have a very puzzling problem with my (new) NeXT laser printer,
connected to a NextStation running 3.0. Right now, I'm trying to
determine whether it is necessarily caused by a hardware failure,
possibly the cable, or by a software problem. Any help will be
appreciated, I posted a cry for help earlier, but now I have
a better idea of the symptoms. If you figure out what the problem
is, you win as many beers as you can drink in one evening
in a Boston pub :)
Symptoms summary
================
If the printer has been off for a sufficiently long time, the first
few print jobs come out ok (the number depends on the time the
printer has been off, it seems, but never more than 4. Note that the
number of pages per job does not matter--I printed very long
documents, too---only the number of print jobs) The quality of
those first printouts is perfect, After that, the following documents
invariably produce garbage: black pages with horizontal white
stripes. It looks like a scrambled version of the image. And, no
matter now many pages you send, just one scrambled page comes out,
usually with an pq entry similar to:
Rank Owner Job Files Total Size
active christ 34 0 bytes
^^^
(Although the 0 bytes entry occurs for working printouts, too, and
bad prints have had the correct number of bytes listed by lpq)
The jobs that come out as garbage sometimes get stuck in the queue.
There have been other types of garbage (solid black vertical stripe,
2.5 inch on an otherwise ok page, completely black pages), but I have
not found consistent conditions for their occurrence, and they have
happened only once each.
Turning off the printer for less than ~2 hours has no effect;
keeping it turned off (with nppower off) for longer than that allows
a few perfect quality prints (well, the black pages leave a little
toner that smears the backside of the pages), then the problem recurs.
ANY TAKERS?
------------------------------------------------------------------
Christian Mannes
Dept. of Cognitive and Neural Systems
Boston University
christ@cns.bu.edu "I am NOT a merry man"
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--
Christian Mannes
Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems
Boston University
christ@cns.bu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik)
Subject: Formatting a floppy in NS/FIP
Message-ID: <CBDKH3.LrJ@well.sf.ca.us>
Keywords: Floppies, Initialization
Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 05:55:50 GMT
I am experiencing strange behaviour with the floppy drive in my NS PC
clone.I have been able to use the drive to install NextStep and several 3rd
partyapps. I can also read from and write to Mac disks without any
problems.However I have been unable to initialize a floppy in any format.
Afternumerous attempts I usually get a message in the console saying "should
be48,0. found 0,0. errors." Is this a bug in 3.1 or might I have a
bustedfloppy drive?
Michael Rutchik
ludwig@well.sf.ca.us
From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hack question
Message-ID: <1993Aug7.070027.2609@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
Date: 7 Aug 93 07:00:27 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu
Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci.
I was looking through a copy of MacWorld today, and came across
an ad for a strange hack that lets you put two simms in each of
a Mac's simm slots, thus doubling your available RAM.
Does anyone out there in net-land (perhaps an ex-NeXT hardware type)
have any idea whether such a thing might work on a NeXT? Are NeXT
machines "smart" enough to figure it out. It seems like that would
be a good way to upgrade memory, especially considering the price of
RAM these days.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: EISA ATI Graphics Ultra Pro won't work, any ideas?
Message-ID: <CBCzy3.7G@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <23p615INNaqq@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> <23qi3fINN5rj@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 22:32:27 GMT
In article <23qi3fINN5rj@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen) writes:
>In article <1993Aug4.231155.1826@adobe.com> pasqua@adobe.com writes:
>>When you see the message:
>> "Assuming ATI is local bus"
>>it means that the device driver failed to determine whether the ATI card is
>>EISA, ISA, or VLB. In that case it just assumes that it is a VLB card.
>...
>>I have run an EISA GUP in several machines including Compaq's and NEC's and it
>>worked just fine. By the way, does your motherboard have a built-in display
>>controller (like a super VGA)? If so, it needs to be disabled for the GUP to
>>work properly.
>
>No, the motherboard doesn't have built-in vga. It does seem like the ATI
>is a recent version.. when NS boots up, it scans the eisa slots and finds
>the card in slot #4. Its number is 4402. When I installed the CFG file
>for the card, only ati4400.cfg was available on the disk and I used that.
>Could it be that NS recognizes the card by its number? Has the number changed,
>does anyone have an ati that's recognized as 4402 and works?
>
>Ari
>
>
>
>
>
>
I tried using an ATI EISA GUP in my Dell 466/ME. It didn't work and caused
all sorts of strange problems. Apparently this is a known problem and
I received advice from NeXT about (a) updating the ROM on the ATI to
the latest version--there are two chips. The older ROMS are
112-19100-100 and 112-19101-100. You need 112-19100-101 and 112-19101-101.
Also, apparently the ATI simply doesn't work with the Adaptec board. You
need to use a DPT SCSI controller if you want to use the ATI GUP!! Maybe
Adaptec will fix the problem, or maybe ATI will. I suspect ATI are
the most likely cause of the conflict, but that is only an opinion. Adaptec
are unaware of the problem (or were!).
I shall be posting a proper summary of my experience firing up NeXTSTEP
on the Dell 466/ME shortly, because it will likely help others.
One other point. After removing the ATI board, I was able to boot using the
Dell onboard graphics, but I got LOTS of "intr: dropped IRQ 7" messages
which, apparently, can safely be ignored. Like I got several hundred!!
david
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From: phaedrus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Avery Wang)
Subject: Re: Can one use a HP Deskjet 500C with NS 3.1?
Message-ID: <1993Aug6.170419.29038@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
References: <23qnmv$ab@email.tuwien.ac.at> <1993Aug5.211531.424@dart.de>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 17:04:19 GMT
In article <1993Aug5.211531.424@dart.de> wbeeck@dart.de writes:
>In article <23qnmv$ab@email.tuwien.ac.at> gadinger@galadriel.tuwien.ac.at
>(Anton Gadinger) writes:
>> O.K., it IS a silly question - is there a way to hook a HP DJ 500C to NS
>> 3.1 on a 486? Do HP sell a driver or something to make these lowmarket
>> things (software side) PostScriptable? Please tell if you know!
>>
>> Alex Wilkie, currently no email@addr! (sorry)
>
>We're selling a printer-driver, called "Dots", which allows you to output to
>many non-PostScript printing devices, including the HP Deskjet 500C.
>
Instead of using Dots you might also want to take a look at the stuff
I hacked together using Ghostscript for driving the HP550C. I posted
the instructions on sonata.cc.purdue.edu several months ago.
It's in /pub/next/lore/HPDeskJet550C.tar.Z
You just have to select the 500C instead of the 550C when compiling
Ghostscript.
By now, Ghostscript has gone through several revisions and the
instructions may have to be changed a little bit.
My method results in passable quality color/text output.
On the other hand, if you are willing to shell out the $250 for
Dots, it is actually pretty good. I had a chance to see it in
action where I work and I was impressed.
Good luck,
Avery Wang
Institut fuer Neuroinformatik (until September 1993, then back)
Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum (to Stanford)
ND 03/32, Postfach 10 21 48
44780 Bochum
Germany
Tel: +49-234-700-7994 (office)
-7094-210 (Fax)
email: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu
avery@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu ()
Subject: Re: Formatting a floppy in NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Aug7.151643.7920@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu>
Keywords: Floppies, Initialization
Sender: news@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI
References: <CBDKH3.LrJ@well.sf.ca.us>
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 15:16:43 GMT
In article <CBDKH3.LrJ@well.sf.ca.us> ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik) writes:
>
>I am experiencing strange behaviour with the floppy drive in my NS PC
>clone.I have been able to use the drive to install NextStep and several 3rd
>partyapps. I can also read from and write to Mac disks without any
>problems.However I have been unable to initialize a floppy in any format.
>Afternumerous attempts I usually get a message in the console saying "should
>be48,0. found 0,0. errors." Is this a bug in 3.1 or might I have a
>bustedfloppy drive?
>
>Michael Rutchik
>ludwig@well.sf.ca.us
Well, I unfortunately don't have an answer to your problem - but I can say
that I've had just the same problem. Worse even, maybe. When I try to
initialize a diskette, if the system is feeling sympathetic, it will just
fail with a bunch of errors. If not, it does things such as hang my machine
or even reboot the computer. If anyone else knows the origin of this problem
it would be great to hear about it. I'm getting sick of trying to fix
trashed filesystems from all the resulting crashes. I have been assuming
that it is a result of my cheapo IDE controller (one of those $15 2H2F2SPG
deals), and am waiting to borrow a good one from a friend. I'll let you
know what this turns up - but until then I thought I'd at least let you know
that you aren't the only one with this very frustrating problem.
Jim Wissner
wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery)
Subject: Re: Power Backup Autoshutdown NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Aug7.112448.12737@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
References: <MAX.93Aug5113513@Kolmogorov.gac.edu>
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 11:24:48 GMT
In article <MAX.93Aug5113513@Kolmogorov.gac.edu> writes:
-> In article <1993Aug4.133959.545@vlsi.polymtl.ca>
jmh@iro.umontreal.ca
-> (Jean-Marc Heneman) writes:
->
-> Is there a driver to support autoshutdown on power
-> failure via power backup like UPS device?
->
-> I patched Best's CheckUPS shutdown program (generic
-> BSD Unix version) to work with NeXTstep, and also
-> worked out (with help from their tech support) what
-> the cable needed to look like to connect the Best
-> Fortress's communications port to a NeXT serial port
-> (black hardware -- for white hardware the cable Best
-> provides should work).
A quick thought on this...
A quite simple script which awaits a raise in DTR on the
notify port, with a shutdown -p command should handle this
quite nicely. With two extrememly simple C programs...
Launched as if a getty by init...
pseudocode/description
open /dev/ttyda (or /dev/ttydb) according to parameter
passed from the /etc/ttys entry.
fork, performing an execv from the fork of shutdown -p
with an appropriate timeout specified
set an interrupt on loss of DTR and sleep permanently.
IF interrupted by drop of DTR, locate and kill the
shutdown process.
Dressing it up would make it display an Inform panel which
pops up whether or not anyone is logged in (like the
NeXT-printer Inform panel)... non-root users would be
prevented from logins by the nologins flag... any process
checking for shutdown via that nologins flag would easily shut
down gracefully. Time delay before actual shutdown could be
easily passed in the /etc/ttys entry, thus sysadmin
configurable with Edit.app
Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com
Total System Software
NeXT-Mail (preferred) or MIME-Mail or plain old RFC-822 text.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Choosing a 486DX2/66
Message-ID: <1993Aug6.144147.19955@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug4.164414.10497@valis.ampr.ab.ca>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 14:41:47 GMT
In article <1993Aug4.164414.10497@valis.ampr.ab.ca> user1@valis.ampr.ab.ca
(Kevin Fluet) writes:
> m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes:
> >Not quite true. There are many systems which work that NeXT has not
> >tested. The best way to see if system X works with NEXTSTEP is to test
it.
>
> What!? You're saying that if I want to run NeXSTEP, I should go out and
> spend thousands of dollars on a machine and thousands of dollars for
> NeXSTEP, and THEN see if the two work together? Gimme a break!
Testing whether or not NEXTSTEP runs on system X doesn't necessarily
involve risking thousands of dollars. One can 1) stay with NeXT's Hardware
Compatibility Guide, 2) tell the vendor that you'll buy it only if he
preinstalls NEXTSTEP (after providing him with NEXTSTEP if necessary), or
3) get a 30 day money back guarantee from a trustworthy vendor.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: Problem with NEXTSTEP 3.1 fip CDs (please read and pass this info on!!)
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 03:10:30 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug8.031030.28214@bilver.uucp>
References: <23m021$7l1@menudo.uh.edu> <1993Aug4.225309.15578@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
In article <1993Aug4.225309.15578@umiami.ir.miami.edu> therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
>In article <23m021$7l1@menudo.uh.edu>, sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:
>>
>> (Please alert your vendor of this potential problem!!! Also tell anyone you
>> know who isn't on the net...)
>> We have discovered a potentially serious problems with some shipments of
>> NEXTSTEP 3.1/fip CDs that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to install NEXTSTEP on any
>> hardware because the CD cannot be read:
>> There seems to have been a defect in the packaging phase during the
>> production of batch of NEXTSTEP 3.1 CDs. These CDs are "fogged." That is,
>> they have a thin film over the back of the CD (side opposite of the label).
>> At first we thought it was due to humidity, but now we are not sure what it
>> is. However, we believe that the defect happened during the packaging phase
>> because all of our 22 copies (from the same shipment) of NEXTSTEP 3.1/fip
>> had this film. Copies from an earlier shipment were fine.
...
>> This problem can be fixed if you carefully clean the CD. We sucessfully
>> used "computer screen cleaner" and Windex without any problems. Apply the
>> cleaner to a lint-free cloth and wipe the film off the CD. After the CD is
>> cleaned, installation and use of the CD should be problem free (that is if
>> there aren't any other problems like hardware incompatiblity).
>> We would like to know if you come across a CD with this "defect" so please
>> send me email.
Just checked my copy, that I picked up earlier this week. The OS was
that way, the development dis was not (see later).
>Yes - We received 13 copies from NACSCorp - Academic packages. All 13
>packages have both user and developer disks fogged. The coating seems
>slightly sticky, also. I used Windex also and a soft cloth and got the
>disks to read.
>I called NeXT and informed them of the problem - I am really disappointed
>in NeXT - We are not terribly inconvenienced but this incident seems to
>be one more tiny way in which NeXT is trying to kill its great software.
>A little more attention to details in manufacturing would really help
>NeXTstep! (Just letting off a bit of smoke - NeXT had not shown
>a lot of care in handling "details" with its hardware sales and support
>and seems to be right on its old track, here.)
I wouldn't blame NeXT for a manufacturing problem like that. I've
purchased commercial CDs with the same problem.
What they could be blamed for is if they let it continue and don't
inform their vendor. Plants to make these are most certainly shrink
wrapping the whole package.
Now - when I looked I saw an area that was not fogged. Sort of
eliptical. Lo and behold, on the CD case itself there is a small
serial number label. And the placement looks like it could be the
same.
And my developer disk was okay. The difference is the plastic in the
OS was black while the developer was white. I suspect it may be
out-gassing from the plastic cases, and the serial number limited the
coating in that area.
All it takes is a vendor who supplies a chemical to make an
insignificant change (he thought) that causes problems with your
formulation. I saw this happen when I worked in a recording studio and
Ampex came an pulled all of our tape stock because it got sticky. A
vendor had changes a component they used to make the binder, and
reacted adversely to other chemicals in the binder. Don't blame NeXT,
they didn't make the disk, but get them to fix them however.
--
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.uucp OR bill@bilver.oau.org
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From: jayce@hart.Princeton.EDU (Jason Ehrlich)
Subject: Re: Need NSFIP printer recommendations
Message-ID: <1993Aug6.165852.13664@Princeton.EDU>
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1993 16:58:52 GMT
It is written:
>>> I called HP looking for PPD files and was
>>> told that they only had a Version 8 driver for the Mac (yuck) and no
>>> PPD files for the 4ML.
I just purchased a 4ML (unpacked it yesterday, in fact!). The Mac software
came with HP's version of the Apple/Adboe LaserWrite 8.0 driver, and a PPD
file for the 4ML. I also have a PPD file and the new HP LW8.0 driver for
my LaserJet 4M at work.
jason
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From: jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum)
Subject: how to make 030 board work with turbo board
Message-ID: <1993Aug7.013457.19968@Princeton.EDU>
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I am about to buy an 030 board to run an OD drive in my turbo cube.
DOes anyone have the directions for making it work with the existing
board? I'd like to see how difficult it is before I buy the board.
Thanks!
-jeff
--
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name was rain and the sound of trains, suddenly sprouting a humming
forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
From: somayaji@athena.mit.edu (Anil B Somayaji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: QIC-80 (Colorado) support for Nextstep?
Date: 8 Aug 1993 05:39:38 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
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Is anyone out there, at NeXT or anywhere else, working on drivers for
NS/FIP to support non-SCSI tape drives such as the Colorado Jumbo 250,
which uses QIC-80 tapes? I talked to Colorado systems, and apparently
they have no such plans. Their drive is controlled through the floppy
controller, and apparently writing a driver for them is quite a job.
I believe they are, however, supporting SCO and (I think) Interactive UNIX...
I have a clunky way of using my drive right now - make a tar file of
the things I want to backup, move the file to a MS-DOS partition, and
then write it to a tape. My system is new, so I have some space to
play around with now, but soon I'll probably just have to buy a cheap
drive to make tape images (sigh).
I would consider writing a drive if 1) I wasn't new to Nextstep, and
2) I've never written a driver in my life.
Also, just out of curiosity, are the QIC standards simply media
standards, or are they hardware interface standards too?
Thanks!
--Anil Somayaji
somayaji@athena.mit.edu
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From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Colour Film Recorders for NeXT/Unix
Message-ID: <1993Aug7.142348.22433@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <23uj0q$g57@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 14:23:48 GMT
In article <23uj0q$g57@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> morrison@ppc.ubc.ca (Rick
Morrison - ppc sysadm) writes:
> Can someone recommend a hardware + software solution
> to producing colour slides for NeXT?
Talus T-1 Film Recorder/ImageMate, Talus Corp. info@talus.com
Nominated Best of Breed by NeXTWorld magazine.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Ate my BIOS!! Sort of.
Message-ID: <1993Aug7.143050.22499@BlueRose.com>
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References: <1993Aug7.014114.15999@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 14:30:50 GMT
In article <1993Aug7.014114.15999@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Rumplestiltskin) writes:
>
> I finally got my SCSI controller today (DPT2022) and couldn't wait to
> install NS/FIP. I was really psyched and against all logic, thought I
> might actually be able to get it to install on the first try. Foolish
> I know admit.
>
> My configuration is as follows:
> EISA Motherboard (no manufacturer label, has a passive backplane
> 6 EISA slots and 1 ISA. In big letters it says
> Modular EISA Back Board.)
> AMI 486 EISA Bios 1990
> DTC 2290 EISA IDE Controller
> Quantum LPS240 Hard Disk
> DPT 2022/95 (Floppy Disabled)
> Toshiba 3401 Internal CDROM at SCSI ID 0
> 3.5" Floppy attached to the DTC controller. No 5.25" floppy
> ATI Graphics Ultra 1MB (Older Mach 8)
Could be an incompatible motherboard, but don't assume so just yet. I'd be
surprised if the Mach 8 ATI card works beyond VGA.
> and tried the config=default line at the boot: prompt however all I got
> was a dozen lines saying "can't find /usr/*.config"
That needs to be Default (capital D).
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: chris@aardvark.rain.com (Chris Lamb)
Subject: The Net works its magic! THANKS! (long, was Chickens and Eggs :-)
Message-ID: <CBFMD0.ELv@aardvark.rain.com>
Summary: Netters offer advice, NS/FIP now installed!
Keywords: hold your mouth right, cross your fingers :-)
Organization: Steve's UNIX System, Portland, Oregon
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 08:31:46 GMT
Well, I'm really happy to say that I managed to get NS/FIP
installed on my Gateway 2000! And I want to thank all the kind
folks who sent email with suggestions and encouragement:
j-weiss@nwu.edu
mitch@ella.mills.edu
tacchi@cc.umanitoba.ca
ridgway@inls3.ucsd.edu
cedman@lynx.ps.uci.edu
austin@netcom.com
ian_stewart@pyrian.com
dean@rdcalr.realdec.com
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu
One of the above is a NeXT employee, who very kindly offered to
let me call him at work for assistance!! I really appreciate the
offer, but thankfully I'm up and running now (but if you don't
mind random Fanatics calling up and raving about how NeXT should
reopen the hardware division, I'd be glad to call! :-).
I had posted the "chicken and egg" problem. If I left the floppy
in I couldn't get to the CD-ROM drive, but if I left the CD-ROM
out of the drive I obviously couldn't mount it as the root device
to do the install...
Well, although I'm extremely grateful to those who responded, many
with good suggestions, as it turns out, none of you were right. :-)
This is one of those "hold your mouth just right, and wait for the
planets to align, and try something really *silly* because it just
might work" kind of fixes. The CD-ROM drive was just a little odd,
or it didn't like my Adaptec board, or maybe NeXT's install floppy
was doing something strange. (Not sure if this is something for
"bug_next"?) Basically, I had to
Put the NS/FIP CD in the caddy, but not insert it;
Boot the machine, and wait until *just the right moment*,
(right after the second "Resetting SCSI bus..." message), and
Pop that sucker in and cross my fingers!
As my recollection of SCSI protocol is rather fuzzy, the gist of
this problem was that the NS installer wasn't being patient, OR
the drive was just a little slow on the uptake. I got errors from
the SCSI controller that led me to believe that the drive was
essentially "off line", so I gambled that if I popped the CD in
at just the right time, perhaps everything would jive. It did.
So if you're trying to use a Sun-provided CD-ROM for your NS install
maybe this is a useful tidbit. :-)
A hunch. Blind luck. Whatever. I now have NeXTSTEP on this damned
PC, and for now, Life Is Good. :-)
HOWEVER,
Is it just me, or does everyone with an ATI Ultra Pro get those horrible
lines across the left edge of the display? I've tried all the available
resolutions and refresh rates, but there are strange tick marks (and they
change when I move or scroll things, they aren't just static) at evenly
spaced intervals along the left side...
I haven't had any keyboard related problems whatsoever, since I had
installed the W7 jumper as mentioned here on the net a while ago. The
mouse hung completely after the first reboot from the hard disk, but
I managed to sorta almost use just the keyboard to log out cleanly, and
that problem hasn't reoccured. (Yes, I crashed the machine and took my
chances. :-)
I also got bit by one of the documented Pro Audio Spectrum sound card
bugs, which was quite humorous: I set my system beep sound to the
bullfrog (NeXT still has a marvelous sense of fun, I suspect :-) and
launched the 3D Reality demo I'd copied from the Third Party CD-ROM.
Welp, they say that in some circumstances the card will get stuck and
keep playing the same sound over and over and over again... The croaking
bullfrog had me in stitches... but the only workaround I've found is to
reboot when that happens, which is kind of a pain.
As for speed...well, if I had any money I'd load this thing up with
RAM, first of all. But I *really* miss the extra real-estate I enjoyed
on our beloved Black Hardware. And even a poor old 25MHz '040 seemed to
do a *much* better job shoving the bits around on-screen than this
supposedly faster PC... I guess the world is doomed to be memory and
i/o bound, like us humans. Time to swap out, head off to bed, and dream
of an '060 daughterboard for my cube... (But that's another post. :-)
Once again, thanks all!
-- Chris
--
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From: trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels)
Subject: split this newsgroup
Message-ID: <LQ5FB7LJ@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 12:55:59 GMT
Hello folks,
PROPOSAL:
Split the hardware group into comp.sys.next.{i386,m68k,hp,...}
There should be a comp.sys.next.<hardware> for any hardware
NeXT supports, <hardware> named the way NeXT does it to avoid
confusion.
WHY?
One hardware group has been ok, when there was on NeXT hardware.
Now we have got two running, facing even more, I hope. Even with
two hardware architectures, I spend much time finding the info
I'm interested in. Think what is going to happen when PowerPc, HP,
Alpha,... are started. I won't dig through lots of messages
regarding problems installing NeXTSTEP on HP, Alpha, PeeCees just
to find the message matching my own hardware. Today that's only
annoying, but in future it will be a must!
I wouldn't mind other names like comp.sys.next.hardware.{i386,m68k,hp}
but I think that the other names are good enough to be recognized.
ciao, Stephan
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+--------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: EISA ATI Graphics Ultra Pro won't work, any ideas?
Message-ID: <CBEL4L.6H1@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
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Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1993 19:07:32 GMT
In article <CBCzy3.7G@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes:
>In article <23qi3fINN5rj@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen) writes:
>>In article <1993Aug4.231155.1826@adobe.com> pasqua@adobe.com writes:
>>>When you see the message:
>>> "Assuming ATI is local bus"
>>>it means that the device driver failed to determine whether the ATI card is
>>>EISA, ISA, or VLB. In that case it just assumes that it is a VLB card.
>>...
>>>I have run an EISA GUP in several machines including Compaq's and NEC's and it
>>>worked just fine. By the way, does your motherboard have a built-in display
>>>controller (like a super VGA)? If so, it needs to be disabled for the GUP to
>>>work properly.
>>
>>No, the motherboard doesn't have built-in vga. It does seem like the ATI
>>is a recent version.. when NS boots up, it scans the eisa slots and finds
>>the card in slot #4. Its number is 4402. When I installed the CFG file
>>for the card, only ati4400.cfg was available on the disk and I used that.
>>Could it be that NS recognizes the card by its number? Has the number changed,
>>does anyone have an ati that's recognized as 4402 and works?
>>
>>Ari
>>
>>
>I tried using an ATI EISA GUP in my Dell 466/ME. It didn't work and caused
>all sorts of strange problems. Apparently this is a known problem and
[munch]
>Also, apparently the ATI simply doesn't work with the Adaptec board. You
>need to use a DPT SCSI controller if you want to use the ATI GUP!! Maybe
[munch]
I should have emphasised that NeXT's advice and my experience and comments
referred specifically to Dell ME systems. Perhaps other systems also have
strange problems with the ATI/Adaptec combination???
>
>david
>
>
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From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Dead Microsoft Mouse with Gateway: help requested
Message-ID: <CBG2wD.8vn@news.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 14:29:01 GMT
Well, finally got our first 486 machine and spent yesterday loading
NeXTstep (sigh.... I still like the old "spelling" best) on it. Thanks to
the many helpful posts about the idiosyncracies of this system, in
particular the one by Paul Sears, the installation went pretty
straightforwardly. The only problem is that at the end of it all the mouse
is completely dead --- odd since it works just fine in the intermediate
steps needed to get the OS installed. As per Paul's post, I gave me a
password, then became root, used the arrow keys to open a terminal and
Edited the file
/usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table
and removed the PS2Mouse entry from the boot drivers, and then rebooted.
Still dead. The Turbo button was never ennabled "which I assume means,
"pushed in" at any time in the installation or boot process.
I'm completely stymied at this point and actively seeking help from someone
willing to offer it. Paul's post was from mid-June, and I've not paid much
attention to the Gateway related threads in the interim, so perhaps there
is an update as to what causes this problem with the Mickey Mouse?
Another question: what is the Gateway equivalent to command-command-~ on
black hardware? Have needed to do a couple of hard reboots already and
would like to avoid that in the future.
Thanks for any and all help in advance!
Tom
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From: trefan@fractal.phys.unt.edu (Gyorgy Trefan)
Subject: serial mouse and keyboard
Message-ID: <1993Aug8.184847.12335@mercury.unt.edu>
Sender: usenet@mercury.unt.edu (UNT USENet Adminstrator)
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 18:48:47 GMT
Hi Guys,
Could anyone install NS/I with serial mouse and keyboard? How? (We could
install NS/I on PS2 style architecture but serial mice and keyboard do not
work neither for installation nor for operation.)
Your positive answer would be a big big help. Thanks George.
From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: The alternative console
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 17:50:57 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UgNLJ1SSMUkHFFJYc=@transarc.com>
The ROM monitor allows us to set up serial port 'A' as an alternative
console; the documentation says that this will be used whenever the
keyboard or monitor is not attached. Well, with either of the above
missing, the system cannot be turned on (it is an 030 cube). Can anyone
describe what is required (pinouts please! :-) there? What sort of fake
circuit I need to place on the display connector to have an on-off
switch? And what the alternative serial port support expects to hear on
the serial port (baud, parity, byte length) from the console?
Send mail or post; I'll compile a summary and ask to put it into the FAQ.
--
Ward C. Travis Pittsburgh PA USA "The fact is the sweetest dream that
travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
From: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: EISA ATI Graphics Ultra Pro won't work, any ideas?
Date: 9 Aug 1993 00:47:46 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Message-ID: <2446ri$kb3@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
References: <23qi3fINN5rj@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> <CBCzy3.7G@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <CBEL4L.6H1@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
In article <CBEL4L.6H1@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) writes:
..
>>I tried using an ATI EISA GUP in my Dell 466/ME. It didn't work and caused
>>all sorts of strange problems. Apparently this is a known problem and
..
>>Also, apparently the ATI simply doesn't work with the Adaptec board. You
>>need to use a DPT SCSI controller if you want to use the ATI GUP!! Maybe
..
>I should have emphasised that NeXT's advice and my experience and comments
>referred specifically to Dell ME systems. Perhaps other systems also have
>strange problems with the ATI/Adaptec combination???
Well, I don't have a Dell but I do have an Adaptec and the ATI GUP (EISA).
And it works, now, after some hacking on the driver.
On my system, the timings from NXBench were
48000 dhrystones
30.48 mips
0.455 nxfactor
Since it's a homebrew EISA with a 486/50, comparing to the table of
other NXBench results, this seems ok. What really pulls the graphics
performance down is the window moving/redrawing test. Would it be
awfully difficult for NeXT to insert a few speedups to use hardware
bitblts for these common operations, anyone know about this?
Ari
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From: "M. Yoshida" <MIDORI@MUSICM.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Advice on IBM486SLC2-66Mhz Please!
Message-ID: <08AUG93.22367032.0014@VM.MPG.MCGILL.CA>
Sender: usenet@MUSICM.MCGILL.CA
Organization: McGill University Systems Inc (MUSIC/SP)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 01:42:36 GMT
Hi!
The following information is August's PC Magazine about IBM's
486SLC2-66 Mhz motherboard:
System Board Specifications
Technical specifications:
-100% IBM PC/AT compatible
-CPU: IBM 486SLC2-66Mhz
-16K onchip cache**
-ETEQ 486SLC single core logic chip
-Hardware turbo clock switch
-Software turbo clock switch
-Bus speed changable
-Easy access to front panel connector setting
-Battery backup for CMOS configuration and real time clock/calendar
-Board size = 200 mm(W) x 270 mm(L)
-NPU included (I believe from Cyrix)
-BIOS: AMI
Memory:
-64K cache expandable to 128K
-0M - 16M board memory
-Shadow RAM
-Page mode memory memory design
-Unlimited DRAM configurations
Expansion
-Seven 16-bit Bus slot
Three year warranty
Price: US$365 + $20 shipping
Is this IBM486SLC2-66 motherboard a good buy according to the above
specifications? Thank you for your advice.
M. Yoshida (midori@musicm.mcgill.ca)
From: gisie@wam.umd.edu (Death)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Ultrastor 34F SCSI Controller Support? 3.2?
Date: 9 Aug 1993 03:04:25 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <244erp$5gv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Does anyone know if NeXT will support the Ultrastor 34F VLB SCSI
controller in 3.2?
Also, after I reinstalled my 1542 card, I found out I have a set of
the "sticky cd's" that are floating around. So I wipe them off as
best as I can, and alas, they still won't install.
Anyone know if NeXT is offering to replace these CD's?? I hope so or
I am oing to be PO'd.
Thanks,
Tim
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"How will these windows affect my final document??"
From: gisie@wam.umd.edu (Death)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS 3.2/FIP
Date: 9 Aug 1993 03:10:42 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <244f7i$5nd@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Can someone email me what the 3.2 upgrade will entail?
Thanks,
Tim
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"How will these windows affect my final document??"
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM PC's - ? on Video performance
Date: 9 Aug 1993 03:32:21 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <244gg5$nr5@usenet.rpi.edu>
I'd like to buy a genuine IBM PC to run NeXTSTEP on. However, as I read
over various things I get the impression that I just can't get snazzy video
performance and NeXTStation-Color quality on an IBM ValuePoint system. Am I
just reading this wrong?
Commentary: I wish IBM would trot a few people over to NeXT and get MCA
support in NeXTSTEP/FIP. Hmm, probably need to add XGA-2 video support too,
along with support for 2.88meg floppies. I'd think that IBM would get a
good return out of that small investment, as NeXTSTEP is an OS that might
justify people buying the high-end IBM systems. Arrrrg....
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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From: dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield)
Subject: Re: Dead Microsoft Mouse with Gateway: help requested
In-Reply-To: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov's message of Sun, 8 Aug 1993 14:29:01 GMT
Message-ID: <DEAN.93Aug8235441@world.std.com>
Sender: dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <CBG2wD.8vn@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 04:54:41 GMT
In article <CBG2wD.8vn@news.iastate.edu> tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) writes:
> the many helpful posts about the idiosyncracies of this system, in
> particular the one by Paul Sears, the installation went pretty
> straightforwardly. The only problem is that at the end of it all the mouse
> is completely dead --- odd since it works just fine in the intermediate
> steps needed to get the OS installed.
I suffer the same fate. Sorry this is not an aid, but merely commiseration
in the sense that you are not alone, and that this may be a widespread problem.
Any keyboard method to move between buttons on the logout panel, so that I
am not forced to perform a hard reboot, thereby leaving files open? Would
rather logout in the 'power off the system' mode. TIA.
-Dean
--
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From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: Zeos 486/66 and NS/FIP
Message-ID: <rorCBHIBB.7nM@netcom.com>
Summary: Zeos: will this machine work with NeXTSTEP?
Keywords: Zeos, NeXTSTEP/FIP
Organization: Pigdog WorldWide
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 08:59:34 GMT
I have a Zeos 486/66 VLB with 16 megs of RAM and 450meg drive. It has
on-board Adaptec SCSI, but I also have an Adaptec 1542B card. I have both
a Texel 5024 CD ROM and an Apple CD 300. Has *anyone* been able to get a
similar Zeos setup, or *any* Zeos machine to work with NeXTSTEP/FIP?
I've heard that there may be problems. If there are, can someone enlighten
me as to what they might be? I'm hoping there is some way to get this
machine to work with NeXTSTEP because I can't afford a new motherboard. I
can barely afford NeXTSTEP.
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From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin)
Subject: UK fax modem supplier?
Message-ID: <1993Aug9.100305.4969@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news)
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 10:03:05 GMT
Can somebody tell me where in the UK I may find a suitable fax modem for black
hardware running NS 3.0? Thank you.
----------------------------------------------------
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Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge
Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K.
Internet: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (NeXTMail is acceptable)
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From: jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum)
Subject: turbo cube won't consistently power up.
Message-ID: <1993Aug8.064814.412@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 06:48:14 GMT
I have a turbo cube that does not consistently power on. When I press the
power key on the keyboard, it just sits there. Definitely not the intended
behavior. I tried fiddling with the cables, but this did not seem to help.
I then removed the motherboard, took out the battery, waited a few minutes
and replaced it. The machine powered up just fine. When I tried it again
a few hours later, it once again failed to power up.
In addition, the machine often loses the boot command that I set in the
monitor -- I set it to "sd" so it boots from the hard drive, but it almost
always tries booting from "en" even though I am not attached to a network.
Are these symptoms indicitive of any particular problem? Any suggestions on
what I should check next? Is it likely that these two problems are related?
Thanks much for any assistance!
-jeff
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From: chuck@benatong.com (Charles G. Bennett)
Subject: Re: Power Backup Autoshutdown NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Aug8.213749.12040@cypher.cmhnet.org>
Sender: chuck@cypher.cmhnet.org
Organization: BenaTong, inc.
References: <1993Aug4.145034.1170@vlsi.polymtl.ca>
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 21:37:49 GMT
In article <1993Aug4.145034.1170@vlsi.polymtl.ca> jmh@iro.umontreal.ca
(Jean-Marc Heneman) writes:
> i found that a company (dunno the name) sell POWER GUARDIAN for ns/fip.
> does anybody know the name of the compagny and the e-mail address?
>
> Jean-Marc Heneman (jmh@iro.umontreal.ca) wrote:
> : Is there a driver to support autoshutdown on power failure via power
> : backup like UPS device?
>
> --
> jmh
>
> jean-marc heneman = jmh@info.polymtl.ca
> if mail bounces, try jm_hene@pavo.concordia.ca or jmh@aircanada.ca
> I prefer ASCII mail for now, but you can send me NextMail for attachment
> __
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> __/ / /
PowerGuardian works with American Power Conversions SMART and BACK UPS
series and is available for both NS/I and Mot.
If anyone has a particular UPS they would like to see supported, please send us
email.
We are just finishing the ONEAC Inc. version and will be adding support for
other vendors UPS's as demand warrants.
We can be reached for more info at info@benatong.com.
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From: lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Rumplestiltskin)
Subject: NS/FIP Ate my Bios! Sort of.
Message-ID: <1993Aug9.135108.2464@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Keywords: NS/FIP Bios Installation
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 13:51:08 GMT
I have gotten three responses so far. Two said that I should type
"config=Default" instead of "config=default" as I posted. Well, the
typo occured in my post not my installation. Even with a capital D
I get those "failed to find /usr/Device/*.config" messages (the "*"
is used by myself to denote that I get about 10 of these messages,
this is not what actually appears on the screen). But why can't these
files be found? Are they on the floppy or the CD-ROM? What can I do
so that they will be found?
The third reply said that my DPT firmware my not be the appropriate
one. I have yet to check on this, though I received the board only
this past friday. Just so I know, What is the current revision #?
Thanks in advance for any advice. It's killing me to have the best
development tools anywhere sitting on my desk and not being able to use
them.
-Jason-
Jason LaPierre
University of Rochester
lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
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From: sandman@well.sf.ca.us (W. Sanford May)
Subject: Help! Fujitsu disk/black hardware
Message-ID: <CBHynp.F4A@well.sf.ca.us>
Keywords: Fujitsu drive
Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 14:52:36 GMT
I've installed a Fujitsu 500 meg hard drive in my '030 cube. I'm
running NS 3.0 and the build disk application recognizes and
reports a successful build for the disk. The file systems
recognizes the drive as a valid volume and the system software
does get copied to the drive. But, the system won't boot
from the Fujitsu hard drive. Booting normally, the system
hangs at the booting from SCSI dialog box. Booting through
the ROM monitor the system displays an error "Unexpected SCSI msg"
which repeats over and over.
If anyone knows the trick to make the Fujitsu a bootable disk,
please send email to both sandman@well.sf.ca.us _and_
sanford.may@aldus.com (if you can only send to one, please send
to the WELL address). If there's a FAQ, please advise which one
and where to get it.
Thanks
Sanford
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH CARL DAVIS)
Subject: HELP: monitor blacks on brightness key
Message-ID: <1993Aug9.141858.3675@ncsu.edu>
Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: NCSU Project Eos
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 14:18:58 GMT
Hello Netters:
OK, I have a problem with my NeXTstation Mono monitor. we had an electrical
storm the other day ( oh boy, this is going to be good ) and our power
went out. this has happened many times before with no ill effects
(however, i usually unplug the thing during a storm, but I wasn't home).
Anyway, when I powered up, the monitor seemed to stay black. The computer
goes through all of the normal noises of doing fsk and coming up, but
I can't see a damn thing on the monitor. OK, so I decided to do some
research:
1) as it first boots up with 'testing', the screen is dim, but normal
( the screen always comes up dim and then brightens during boot up )
2) when the screen says 'booting from disk,' the monitor suddenly goes
completely black and stays that way while the computer boots up. After
it boots up, i can even log in. I type my login and password and it
makes the right noises for logging in ( i am quite familiar with these,
so i am very sure that the login process is going on ). however, i
can't see anything.
3) if i get into the monitor after the 'testing' window, the monitor
remains lighted (normally) until the normal dimming kicks in.
4) if, however, i press the brightness key during this time, the monitor
immediately goes dark.
5) on re-observing the boot process from the monitor, the screen goes
dark after the monitor shows the disks' locations and sizes.
CONCLUSION: something in the brightness controls is shorted/open/broken
that causes any access of the brightness controls (either
by software or hardware ) to blacken the monitor to the
minimum brightness.
QUESTION: What the hell can i do about it? I don't think that this
should be a debilitating problem. It *should* be fixable.
Does anyone out there have information on how the brightness
controls are configured? Is it all in the monitor? If so,
where, and what is the schematic. I am an electrical
engineer, but that doesn't do me much good without a
schematic or some idea of how things work. I am really
rather anxious about opening the monitor without some knowledge
of what I am looking for.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME? I am a graduate student and can not afford to
replace my monitor.
thanks in adavance for any help.
regards,
jcd
.
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From: riclim@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Siew Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Neded info on NeXTSTEP requirements
Date: 9 Aug 1993 08:40:13 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Message-ID: <2452hd$581@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
Hello all,
I couldn't find a FAQ anywhere...so I'm posting here. Recently, I read
about the NeXTSTEP specials that were offered in Australia and would
like more info on NeXTSTEP. If I do buy it, I'll buy the Academic
version.
I've come from a DOS background but been using OS/2 and Linux recently.
Come to think of it, I'm more familiar with Linux now. So, I want to know
how much different is Linux to NeXTSTEP...note that all the utilities I
get for Linux are freeware so I am interested to know how hard it is to
get commercial programs for NS (and cost) and what kind of freeware are
available for NS.
My questions are :-
1) What are the hardware requirements of NeXTSTEP??
2) What is the difference with NeXTSTEP 3.1 and NeXTSTEP 486 (and when
will NS 486 be released??)
3) What does the Academic version include??
a) Some kind of windowing system (pref. X)??
b) DOS emulator of some kind or WABI equiv??
c) What compilers?? I've used only gcc and g++ on UNIX.
d) TeX??
e) etc.
4) How is it distributed (floppies or CD-ROM only)??
5) Comparison to Linux...
a) How much faster or slower??
6) How about porting software?? Easy?? (SGI used to give me a big
headache)
7) Anything else you think I should know??
Thank you very much...
Sean Chan
riclim@tartarus.uwa.edu.au
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From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: DPT firmware upgrade
Message-ID: <CBI4qw.4L@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <CB7uv8.1LC@aardvark.rain.com> <DEAN.93Aug6113028@world.std.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 17:04:07 GMT
I just got the firmware upgrade for the DPT 2022 controller board.
In fact, they arrived the same day that the board itself arrived.
Here is how to tell whether or not a board needs the upgrade.
+------------------------------------------+
| |
| |
| |
| |
| XXXX |
| XXXX |
+------------------------------------------+
||||||||||||||||||||
Read the serial number of the two roms on the bottom left hand side.
The old firmare on my board (that doesn't work with NSFIP) are labeled:
FW-230-DPT and, FW-230-DPT
05A-E 05A-O
the new chips (work with NSFIP) are:
FW-230-DPT and, FW-230-DPT
05A1-E 05A1-O
note the A1 on the new chips.
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From: wardm@well.sf.ca.us (Ward Mullins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which EISA/VESA MBs work?
Date: 9 Aug 1993 16:47:32 GMT
Organization: THOUGHT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <245v34$6l8@male.EBay.Sun.COM>
I'm interesting in finding an inexpensive 486DX2-66 EISA/VESA motherboard which
works with NSFIP. Some people mentioned that they had partial success with a
SIS based motherboard. I know I can always shell out $1000 bucks for an AIR or
NICE, but I was hoping to find a *decent* board which wasn't as expensive.
Oh I already tried a HINT 486, but it locked shortly after it scanned for SCSI
devices, leaving the floppy light no, but with no output.
Any information would be appreciated!
ward
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Dead Microsoft Mouse with Gateway: EVERYBODY PLEASE READ THIS!!!!
Date: 9 Aug 1993 17:16:03 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <2460oj$o0m@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <DEAN.93Aug8235441@world.std.com>
I have recently read a few articles (such as the one at the end of this
post) that discuss problems and fixes to the imfamous Gateway2000 "Dead
Keyboard and Mouse under NEXTSTEP" bug. Well..... The problem has been
fixed and my old "hacks" no longer apply (I posted the following "official
fixes" to these same newsgroups a while back!!)
So... If you are a Gateway2000 Owner or you are considering buying one, then
please ignore the old hacks and use the following information to install
NEXTSTEP!!!!!!!
Gateway2000 4DX2-66V Fix (This probably applies to the 4DX2-50V also)
This the "official" fix from Gateway2000 concerning the problem with
installing and running NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors version 3.1. The cause
of the problem was that the PS2Mouse driver and the PS2Keyboard driver would
not work with the newer versions of the BIOS that Micronics started shipping
with a revised system board. Mainly it concerned the new Gateway ROM BIOS
PLUS Version 0.10 GJX30-05E (but it also works for the earlier GJX30
versions).
For NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors Release 3.1 to install correctly, the new
Gateways V-Series systems must have the PS2 style keyboard jumper ENABLED.
This jumper is not documented in the Gateway2000 Manuals as the PS2 style
keyboard jumper, instead it is listed as W7 - "Reserved".
Gateway ships these systems with the jumper disabled, and usually recommends
leaving the jumper disabled for use with system and keyboard drivers.
However, you must change the W7 jumper to the "on" position (you will need
to find a jumper to use or locate a spare one). The W7 jumper is located
right next to the W40 jumper on the motherboard. See the diagram below
(only included for RichText).
Micronics (Motherboard OEM for Gateway) is currently running NEXTSTEP on a
new Gateway with the W7 jumper changed. This setup has worked with both
serial and bus mice.
NeXT's Quality Assurance group is testing this fix now.
[This has been tested and verified at the University of Houston with various
GJX30-01 versions of the BIOS.]
**** THE PS2Mouse DRIVER MUST BE LOADED FOR THIS TO WORK!!!
If [and only if!!] you followed my earlier installation notes, you were told
to remove the PS2Mouse driver from the file
/usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table
which was in the line "Boot Drivers". A simple way to do this is to run
the Configure.app located in /NextApps and click on "save". The
configure.app will automatically add the PS2Mouse driver to the
Instance0.table file. Powerdown, then add the jumper and reboot. No need
to mess with the turbo switch or anything, it should come up in NEXTSTEP
automatically. To quickly verify if your keyboard will work, check if the
NUM-Lock LED is off. If it is not, then your keyboard WILL NOT work.
The W7 jumper is located next to the first LocalBus slot near the right-back
end of the system board. This diagram is for the Desktop configuration
only. The jumper may be located in a different location if you have a
tower case.
In article <DEAN.93Aug8235441@world.std.com> dean@world.std.com (Dean S
Banfield) writes:
#In article <CBG2wD.8vn@news.iastate.edu> tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom
Marchioro) writes:
#
#> the many helpful posts about the idiosyncracies of this system, in
#> particular the one by Paul Sears, the installation went pretty
#> straightforwardly. The only problem is that at the end of it all the
mouse
#> is completely dead --- odd since it works just fine in the intermediate
#> steps needed to get the OS installed.
#
#I suffer the same fate. Sorry this is not an aid, but merely commiseration
#in the sense that you are not alone, and that this may be a widespread
problem.
#Any keyboard method to move between buttons on the logout panel, so that I
#am not forced to perform a hard reboot, thereby leaving files open? Would
#rather logout in the 'power off the system' mode. TIA.
#-Dean
#
#--
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#22 Thorndal Circle email: dean@world.std.com
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From: mw2630@albnyvms.bitnet
Subject: Monitor Flickers
Message-ID: <1993Aug9.171201.7424@sarah.albany.edu>
Sender: news@sarah.albany.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Albany, SUNY
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 17:12:01 GMT
Heyas All,
I was wondering, I have three users who are complaining of their monitors flickering. The monitors are E-Machine 1024x1024 16" jobs,...real heavy. Anyway, I was thinking that it could be one of three things.
It could be that the monitors can be overheating (?), a hardware problem with the monitors themselves, or it could be a bug with the software (next?). I thought I saw a thread talking about it before, but I missed it. Has anybody ever heard of this bug before? Thanx.
Micah Wyenn
Cellular One
Paramus, NJ
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From: mw2630@albnyvms.bitnet
Subject: Monitors
Message-ID: <1993Aug9.171532.7533@sarah.albany.edu>
Sender: news@sarah.albany.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Albany, SUNY
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 17:15:32 GMT
Heyas,
I was wondering, has anyone ever heard of any bugs or hardware problems,that would cause a monitor to sporadically black out. I was wondering if it
could perhaps be a next problem.
Micah Wyenn
Cellular One
Paramus, NJ
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| |
| Qoute for the day: "The crown your honor, will show that the witness that|
| now stands before you, was caught red-handed showing |
| feeeeling, showing feeling of an almost human nature. |
| This will not do." Pink Floyd, The Wall |
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Dead Microsoft Mouse with Gateway: help requested
Date: 9 Aug 1993 17:41:19 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <24627v$4t9@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <CBG2wD.8vn@news.iastate.edu> <DEAN.93Aug8235441@world.std.com>
In article <DEAN.93Aug8235441@world.std.com> dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield) writes:
>In article <CBG2wD.8vn@news.iastate.edu> tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro) writes:
>
>> the many helpful posts about the idiosyncracies of this system, in
>> particular the one by Paul Sears, the installation went pretty
>> straightforwardly. The only problem is that at the end of it all the mouse
>> is completely dead --- odd since it works just fine in the intermediate
>> steps needed to get the OS installed.
>
>I suffer the same fate. Sorry this is not an aid, but merely commiseration
>in the sense that you are not alone, and that this may be a widespread problem.
>Any keyboard method to move between buttons on the logout panel, so that I
>am not forced to perform a hard reboot, thereby leaving files open? Would
>rather logout in the 'power off the system' mode. TIA.
>-Dean
>
On the login panel you can type "console". The window server will
exit and give you a plain old tty like login prompt. Enter root (or me ?)
and then you can use the shutdown or reboot utilities from csh.
As far as dead mice, during the bootstrap at the b prompt you
can enter "config=Default" (watch the capitalization) and you should
get to state where you can run configure with an active mouse. Be sure
to include a serial mouse regardless of what the system thinks it has.
Be sure to work with the latest installation notes from
nexanswers@ftp.next.com
If you are still stuck, email or post your progress.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
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From: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary Chang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Monitors
Date: 9 Aug 1993 17:42:09 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL USA
Message-ID: <24629h$4tf@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1993Aug9.171532.7533@sarah.albany.edu>
In article <1993Aug9.171532.7533@sarah.albany.edu>
mw2630@albnyvms.bitnet writes:
&- Heyas,
&- I was wondering, has anyone ever heard of any bugs or hardware
problems,that would cause a monitor to sporadically black out. I was
wondering if it
&- could perhaps be a next problem.
&-
It happened once in the lifetime to my NeXT 17" Color monitor. I
had to switch it from on-to-off-to-on to bring the world back. A reboot
does not help at all, so I guess it's soly the monitor hardware problem.
--
+----------------+
| Gary I. Chang |
+----------------+
Northwestern Univ. E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (NeXT-Mail O.K.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ND gone belly up?
Message-ID: <1993Aug8.163421.70907@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu
Date: 8 Aug 93 16:34:20 MDT
Distribution: usa
Well, we apparently had a power outage over the weekend
and when I attempted a reboot of my double-headed ND,
everything went fine, right up till the very end, when it
said:
NextDimension Board in Slot 2
ROM version 43...
8 Mbytes DRAM....
tumbleweed Windowserver[171]: Windowserver exception caught: PS-102 on
host tumbleweed, user=root
Memory access exception on address 0x4000000: invalid address (SIGSEGV)
Now, I've removed the ND board and it boots fine on the monochrome
Megapixel. I've replaced the files in /usr/lib/NextStep/Displays/
NeXTdimension. No luck, same problem.
Does anyone have any idea what may be wrong here, or has my ND board
just bit the big one.
Thanks for any help
Howard Cole
USU Space Dynamics Lab
hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu
From: robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu (Robin Bush)
Subject: Advice Needed on Replacing Printer Gear
Message-ID: <2C669597.3728@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 9 Aug 93 18:21:11 GMT
The last gear that shoves the paper out of my NeXT printer is shot. I
already have a replacement gear.
Does anyone have any advice about the best way to do this repair? I don't
want to take the printer apart any more than I have to.
Thanks
----------------------------------------------------------
Robin
From: Randy Antler
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MIDI on the NeXT (black h/w)
Date: 9 Aug 1993 19:01:21 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2466u2$dq9@news.cerf.net>
Keywords: MIDI NeXT black h/w
I'm tring to find information regarding MIDI interfacing from Black h/w to
a MIDI keyboard. Is it correct that all that is req'd is a cable that
connects from the NeXT serial port (B I presume) to a MIDI device? I've
found a variety of boxes that provide MIDI connectivity for Macintosh
hardware, but I'm not so sure that this h/w will work on the NeXT. Any
information related to music programming and MIDI connectivity (vendors?)
would be MUCH appreciated.
--
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randy@nacm.com doesn't mean they're not
nacmra@cerf.net.com out to get me!
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Hardware help for NS/I PLEASE!!
Date: 9 Aug 1993 19:59:06 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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Message-ID: <246aaa$rv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I am planning on putting together a NeXTstep Intel system, and I am having
a very difficult time deciding what is the best hardware to buy that will
give the best performance for price.
I have tried to buy a complete system from both Dell and Epson without
success - both companies seem determined not to sell their computers!
Thus, I would like to assemble my own system, and I have looked through the
PC hardware compatibility guide. Here are my questions:
Video card:
what video card gives the best performance & resolution? Does the CPU speed
improve performance? How much faster will video be using an EISA motherboard
vs. localbus, if any? Does NeXT currently support (or plan to support) any
of the following cards: Cirrus Logic Local Bus, Orchid Fahrenheit Local Bus,
Diamond Viper Local Bus, Diamond Speedstar Pro, ATI Graphics Ultra Pro?
Sound:
Which sound card have people used and favor? Is there one that allows you
to record voice just like on the NeXTstations? Is there a sound card with
a Motorola 56001 DSP that works just like on the old hardware?
CD-Rom:
Does the CD-ROM have to be a SCSI device? If not, can you still boot from a
CD-ROM connected through an IDE controller? Anybody have any experience with
multi-session CD-ROMs? Any advantage to buying one of these for a NeXTstep
system?
SCSI Controller:
Anybody with experience with the choices supported have any recommendations?
Monitor:
Can the original Fimi or Hitachi 17" and 21" NeXT color megapixel displays
be used on an intel system? Does anybody have any information/experience
with the cable to connect the video card to the above monitors?
Bus:
ISA vs EISA - does the EISA bus really make much difference with system
performance?
CPU:
How much difference does the system CPU speed matter? Would people recommend
spending ~$300 more for a 66 mhz DX2 over a 33 mhz DX? Anybody with experience
with a pentium system?
If you have any information on the above questions, please PLEASE respond.
I will summarize the replies to the net if people are interested. Thanks
in advance,
Varun
mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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From: "M. Yoshida" <MIDORI@MUSICM.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Help: IBM's 486SLC2-66 Mhz Motherboard
Message-ID: <07AUG93.21946848.0017@VM.MPG.MCGILL.CA>
Sender: usenet@MUSICM.MCGILL.CA
Organization: McGill University Systems Inc (MUSIC/SP)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1993 01:19:16 GMT
Hi!
I have decided to buy the IBM made 486SLC2-66Mhz motherboard (with
CPU and math co-op). I was told that the 486SLC2-66 is IBM's latest
product. Does anyone know the speed index of 486SLC2-66 comparing
with Intel's 486DX and 486DX2 ? Also, is it true that 256K, 1 MB
and 2MB memory chips can all be pluged into the motherboard ?
Any information about tthe 486SLC2-66 will be appreciated. Thank
you in advance!
M. Yoshida
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CHEAP Color Printer.
Message-ID: <Aug.9.19.45.28.1993.16325@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 9 Aug 93 23:45:28 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
The NeXT color printer is awsome, but you cant easily get them anymore, and moreover if you want to use the printer outside of NS your out of luck... Now most know that the NCP is really a re done Cannon 820 color printer, Apple's color printer is also based on the Cannon 820. The question is, do either the cannon 820 or the apple color printer work with NSi. Is there a driver out for either of these printers?
Any and all info would be most cool.
Later, John
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Advice Needed on Replacing Printer Gear
Message-ID: <1993Aug10.010341.25705@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <2C669597.3728@news.service.uci.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 01:03:41 GMT
In article <2C669597.3728@news.service.uci.edu> robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu
(Robin Bush) writes:
> The last gear that shoves the paper out of my NeXT printer is shot. I
> already have a replacement gear.
>
> Does anyone have any advice about the best way to do this repair? I don't
> want to take the printer apart any more than I have to.
Here are instructions I received via email for this repair.
I ordered the parts as described, but a different gear was worn. I was
able to have a new gear reduced in width to the appropriate size.
However: I don't know what the heck happened, but after I went through
the hours of hassle taking the printer apart and putting it together,
the damn thing *exploded* in sparks and flame upon powering-up!!!
Oh well, Bell Atlantic offers a $550 replacement deal...
[begin email]
I got the part numbers straight and they are :RS1-0132, RS1-0116; $2.31 ea.
The first part number is the one we needed, Chenesko recommended the second
one as insurance against future failure. The price is right, so why not.
I get to the fuser by first removing the three screws under the lid,
removing the lid, removing the back door and the outer main case cover.
Then remove the fuser assy', remove the covers from the end of the
fuser. The gears should now be visible. Remove the clips holding
the gear(s)on the shaft. Replace the gear and reassemble everything.
The hardest parts to reassemble (for me) were the covers on the end
of the fuser. I had a second printer to refer to for the reassembly,
if you don't just try to lay things out carefully as you remove them,
make notes if neccessary, and try to get the parts ahead of time so
you can reassemble the printer the same day.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: bff@csn.org (Brendan Forsyth)
Subject: NSFIP and DPT Controller
Message-ID: <CBIu22.6n2@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (news)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 02:10:49 GMT
Anybody have any experience with DPT controllers and installing NSFIP.
I understand that there may be a problem with getting a NeXT CDROM to work.
Thanks
Brendan
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP works on the ALR Evolution V (Pentium!)
Date: 10 Aug 1993 04:38:51 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2478or$mtp@umd5.umd.edu>
Well, my ALR Evolution V (60 MHz Pentium!) just came in (ordered it in
May!), and I installed my copy of NS/FIP on it *without* a hitch.
My configuration:
Adaptec 1542C SCSI card
ATI GUP (VL)
660MB Fujitsu HD
Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM
8 MB RAM (soon to be 40 MB :-)
Mouse Systems mouse (using PS/2 port)
NXBench reported the dhrystones to be ~88K/s (~56 VAX MIPs).
Norton's SI gave an index of ~135.
BTW, the computer came in a baby-AT case, instead of the full size case
that ALR previously advertised (I much prefer the smaller case).
The list price of this puppy (stripped -- no drive, 1 floppy, no video,
8 MB RAM) is $2450.
Ross.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: NS/FIP ethernet hardware
Message-ID: <bchin.744955862@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 04:11:02 GMT
I've installed NS/FIP on a Lucky Goldstar Logisys machine. Nice. Fast.
However, I could not get the Intel EtherExpress TP card to work... we've had
an Intel with coax work flawlessly for months now in an Epson, but the TP
version doesn't see the network. Pop in an SMC Elite TP, and all is fine, albiet
a little slow.
Looking through the new August Hardware Compatibility Guide from NeXT, the
chart says "Support of TP port requires a driver update." Does anyone know
when this driver will come out? At NWE, we used a bunch of older
Intel EtherExpress TP's (with the LED's stacked vertically, instead of
horizontally). If the driver isn't available soon, does anyone know where
we can get our hands on the older rev?
Also, I saw an ad for the new SMC Ultra card. Does anyone know if this
is fully compatible with the current card - do we need a driver update?
People have said before that the reason that the current SMC is slow is
because of it small buffer (2 or 4 kbytes). This new card has 16k and
some "simultasking" mumbo jumbo.
Thanks in advance for any info!
--
Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc.
VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group
Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Wingine picture jumpyness
Message-ID: <bchin.744956350@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 04:19:10 GMT
We're noticing some wierd behavior with the Logisys 486 with the new
Epson/LGI driver update. We've got it hooked up to a Nanao F550iW,
and when logged in, the picture jumps left and right every so often.
Doesn't happen at the login panel. Just when logged in. Strange.
Any ideas?
I'm thinking maybe the Adaptec 1542c is causing some problems.
The system seems to work flawlessly otherwise - except the network card
(in a previous post).
I'll post the NXBench figures later... however, they really don't do
this display justice. It feels *faster* than a turbo color, and
the ATI Mach32 feels really clunky in comparison. Can't wait to see
how an Epson NX stacks up.
BTW, I talked to the motherboard/display card designers of the LGI
machine - apparently the Wingine card they use cannot be adapted to
VL-bus because the VL-bus isn't rich enough. The Wingine really
looks like part of system memory to the CPU and less like a peripheral.
(This is what I can gather from a conversation way above my head -
I'm not a hardware weenie. Just a software one that dabbles in hardware
once in a while)
Now we just need a VL-bus SCSI card. Any takers? :-)
--
Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc.
VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group
Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: turbo cube won't consistently power up.
Date: 10 Aug 1993 08:39:53 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <247msp$f4u@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1993Aug8.064814.412@Princeton.EDU>
jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) writes:
>Are these symptoms indicitive of any particular problem? Any suggestions on
>what I should check next? Is it likely that these two problems are related?
Yes, they are indicative of a 'bad motherboard'. Could be a bad
CMOS configuration chip, or other parts on the motherboard. We have
had several color stations with such problems. Since they were in
warranty, we generally just swapped the motherboards and since then,
no problems.
--
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University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
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From: droux@hei.unige.ch
Subject: Dell system configuration
Message-ID: <1993Aug10.141933.1@hei.unige.ch>
Sender: usenet@news.unige.ch
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 12:19:33 GMT
I'm planning to buy soon a PC to run NEXTSTEP with the following
configuration. Will this system works with NS/FIP ? Does somebody
have some comment, suggestion or warnings ?
Dell System 466/ME (80486 DX2-66)
32 MB RAM (Bundled)
SCSI Controller (EISA) "
SCSI CD-ROM "
1.2 GB SCSI HD IBM-0663
ATI Ultra-Pro (2MB EISA)
17'' Monitor "
I've also few questions about this configuration :
1. Is the CD-ROM sold by Dell compatible with Photo-CD ?
2. Is it easy to replace the on-board S3 graphic adapter
by an ATI for example ?
3. What kind of EISA SCSI controller is bundled with the
Dell system ? (DPT ??) and is it supported by NEXTSTEP ?
4. Is there some well known configuration problems when
running NEXTSTEP ?
Any comment welcome !
Nicolas Droux
droux@info.isbiel.ch
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Monitors
Date: 10 Aug 1993 09:09:10 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <247e26$8tp@cc.tut.fi>
References: <1993Aug9.171532.7533@sarah.albany.edu> <24629h$4tf@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <24629h$4tf@news.acns.nwu.edu> garyc@eecs.nwu.edu writes:
>In article <1993Aug9.171532.7533@sarah.albany.edu>
>mw2630@albnyvms.bitnet writes:
>&- Heyas,
>&- I was wondering, has anyone ever heard of any bugs or hardware
>problems,that would cause a monitor to sporadically black out. I was
>wondering if it
>&- could perhaps be a next problem.
>&-
> It happened once in the lifetime to my NeXT 17" Color monitor. I
>had to switch it from on-to-off-to-on to bring the world back. A reboot
>does not help at all, so I guess it's soly the monitor hardware problem.
There is a some sort of protection circuit in Megapixel. If +-12 V
(from which the 25 kV is generated by a switching power supply)
is not stabile, Megapixel will shut down itself. I have a PC power supply
+ external 4 A +-12 V supply for Megapixel and I used to have a problem
with the external power supply. Sometimes output was 11 V, (->shut down),
sometimes 13 V (-> D1 diode burned and once a resistor after it).
Nowdays external power supply is stabile, as well, and everything
works fine. But that might be the problem, if megapixel sometimes
goes blank and won't come up again unless you start the NeXT again.
--
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33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Video digitizer on DSP port
Date: 10 Aug 1993 15:31:05 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2484e9$l5u@cc.tut.fi>
References: <199308101015.AA00812@steffi>
I'm thinking of building a video digitizer, that could hold one
PAL frame in a frame buffer so that NeXT could read it afterwards.
However I've never used DSP and that port seems very suitable for
the digitizer. The interface looks like this:
videodigitizer NeXT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<- start digitizing
(digitizes the next
frame in the frame
buffer)
frame ready ->
<- request next byte
byte ->
<- request next byte
byte ->
.
.
.
etc.
So those commands are some numbers (I haven't decided them yet) and
that's how digitizer and NeXT are supposed to be talking to each others
when user clicks DIGITIZE button. The question: Is it possible
to use DSP port for that or is there a more suitable port (serial??)?
Serial port is quite slow..Transferring 64 kB shouldn't take more than
1 second. Any ideas? Code fragments how to do this with DSP are welcome..
--
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33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bbrown@solana.com
Subject: DEC MTE d2 / S3-928
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 09:22:36 GMT
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Hi,
Does anyone out there have experience with the DEC MTE d2 machine? Does anyone know anything about the S3-928 chip set? This appears to be the only machine available which can do 1280/1024 in monochrome and color. Has anyone benchmarked the machine?
My current contact at DEC is Al Fiore at 1-800-722-9332 extension 7809. He is not very knowledgeable yet but, he is interested in learning about NextStep. The more questions he gets the more he'll know. Thanks much.
Bill
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From: paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom)
Subject: success story (Long)
Message-ID: <CBJ0L9.qz@np.com>
Organization: NP Consulting, San Francisco
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 04:31:56 GMT
A couple of people have mentioned that they would appreciate hearing
from someone who had successfully installed NS/I, especially on a
non-standard machine. Hence this post.
Hardware:
AST Premmia 486/66 (EISA)
40MB memory
525MB IDE drive
2.1GB SCSI drive
ATI Graphics UltraPro (EISA)
ZyXEL U-1496E modem
HP LaserJet 4M
Toshiba 3401 External CD-ROM
Persona PC speakers
Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller (floppy disabled)
ProAudio Spectrum 16 sound card
NEC MultiSync 6FG
My reasoning for going with the AST was as follows. The AST had the
following advantages over the other PCs available when I bought the
system (early June). First, it supports up to 128MB of memory on
the motherboard, something I consider important. Second, the
upgrade path to Pentium is via a card which plugs into the slot
provided for the optional external cache card (which I did not buy).
I considered this preferable to the more common P24 socket. Third,
AST has a good reputation for quality. Fourth, the system was
attractively priced, and available with a 30 day money back
guarantee from PCs Compleat, a mail order house.
Installation
Apparently, I had minimal problems compared to most. I ran into a
few glitches, all of which have been discussed here at one point or
another. I configured my internal disk with a 100MB DOS partition,
leaving 425MB for NS/I. My system booted fine from the NS/I floppy,
it saw the CD-ROM rom (id 0), and after a little playing with the
Adaptec configuration, my SCSI disk as well. I never had to deal
with ejecting the floppy at any other point than when the install
requests this before a reboot. I was a bit put off by an error
message regarding a failed probe for my PS/2 mouse, but this error
(which never actually caused any problems!) went away by itself when
my setup was complete.
My next problem (on which I spent considerable time) was in
attempting to get NS to use the onboard graphics on the Premmia. I
had hoped that because the VLB graphics on the Premmia are based on
the same (Mach32) chipset as the GUP, that the GUP drivers would
work. I was able to get the system to function fine in standard VGA
mode, but I was unsuccesful at convincing NS/I to use any higher
resolution. Therefore, I was forced to purchase the ATI card. I am
still hoping that NeXT will support my onboard graphics with some
future release (3.2?), as the onboard graphics were *much* faster.
I also had one problem with the GUP card. Initially, when I
physically installed it in the machine, my system would no longer
boot; in fact, it would not even perform the memory test before the
POST. Technical support at PCs Compleat were unable to help, as
were the TS staff at ATI. AST TS has a 24 hour phone support desk,
but the guy I talked to at 2:00 AM was not able to provide any
suggestions. However, the first person I spoke to on the following
day told me instantly that the problem was a bug in the AST Premmia
1.00 bios; AST has a bulletin board from whom I downloaded the 1.01
bios. This fixed the problem, and I had no further video problems.
I find the video speed using the GUP card to be acceptable, but not
great. The quality of the display at 1024x768 is very, very, good,
but of course I would like to see 1120x832. The NEC monitor is
awesome.
Since I had no netnews access at the time, I did not know about the
serial port bug. NeXT tech support clued me in, though, and I have
settled on a scheme that is very much a kluge, but it works for me.
I have set up uucp to run at 2400 baud, which is the highest speed
that works with any reliability (== crashes system ~5% of the time).
I have also found that the reliability of serial communications is
dramatically affected by whether the system is swapping or not.
Hence, I have set up rc.local to poll my email provider (netcom) at
every reboot. Whenever I am not going to be using my system for a
period of time, I restart the machine (via the logon screen) so mail
and news happen. I also avoid logging in until uucp is done. If I
need the machine right away, I disconnect the phone call via the
modem's data/voice switch. I have successfully done faxes a couple
of times, but it only works 25% of the time, so I avoid that. It
takes a long time to fsck 2.5 GB of disk :-(
Summary
The system seems to work very well. I do plan to upgrade to a DPT
2022 SCSI card as soon as NS/I supports it. On the other hand,
NXBench reports only 35500 dhrystones, 22.6 Mips, and a NXFactor
of .70, which are definitely at the low end of the scale. Perhaps
the optional external cache is called for. I plan to look into
this further as soon as I get a chance, and if it seems worthwile
I will post a followup.
--
--
Paul Nordstrom
NP Consulting
paul@np.com
From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Token Ring cards, anyone?
Date: 10 Aug 1993 15:12:38 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <248dt6INN2pu@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Since running TCP/IP over Token Ring nets is now supported in NS3.1/Intel,
I was curious as to people's general experiences using the TokenExpress
cards to do this.
Successes, failures, etc. are welcome.
Hubert Hickman
hickman@cse.unl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: Hardware help for NS/I PLEASE!!
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Aug10.142527.15443@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 14:25:27 GMT
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References: <246aaa$rv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <246aaa$rv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes:
|>
|> I am planning on putting together a NeXTstep Intel system, and I am having
|> a very difficult time deciding what is the best hardware to buy that will
|> give the best performance for price.
|>
|> I have tried to buy a complete system from both Dell and Epson without
|> success - both companies seem determined not to sell their computers!
bummer, I remember the Epson machines from the NeXTWorld Expo. They were rather nice.
|> Thus, I would like to assemble my own system, and I have looked through the
|> PC hardware compatibility guide. Here are my questions:
|>
|> Video card:
|> what video card gives the best performance & resolution? Does the CPU speed
|> improve performance? How much faster will video be using an EISA motherboard
|> vs. localbus, if any? Does NeXT currently support (or plan to support) any
|> of the following cards: Cirrus Logic Local Bus, Orchid Fahrenheit Local Bus,
|> Diamond Viper Local Bus, Diamond Speedstar Pro, ATI Graphics Ultra Pro?
You WANT local bus. PERIOD. Simply put, NeXTSTEP, needs all of the bus bandwidth it can get when it comes to your video card. Local bus is the best option.
As for a graphics adapter card, from your list above, I'd recommend the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro, local bus card with 2 Megs of memory. Works well.
|>
|> Sound:
|> Which sound card have people used and favor? Is there one that allows you
|> to record voice just like on the NeXTstations? Is there a sound card with
|> a Motorola 56001 DSP that works just like on the old hardware?
I have the Pro Audio Spectrum card. Its a 16 bit card. Sounds like the NeXT black hardware. Word of warning there have been comments about hickups in the sound. Since you don't NEED a soundcard right off the bat, I'd suggest waiting on sound until 3.2 simply because I expect the choice of compatible sound cards to expand.
|>
|> CD-Rom:
|> Does the CD-ROM have to be a SCSI device?
yes
|> If not, can you still boot from a
|> CD-ROM connected through an IDE controller?
no
|> Anybody have any experience with
|> multi-session CD-ROMs? Any advantage to buying one of these for a NeXTstep
|> system?
Go for a Multispin too. Much faster on speed.
|>
|> SCSI Controller:
|> Anybody with experience with the choices supported have any recommendations?
The adaptec 1542B has served me well.
|>
|> Monitor:
|> Can the original Fimi or Hitachi 17" and 21" NeXT color megapixel displays
|> be used on an intel system? Does anybody have any information/experience
|> with the cable to connect the video card to the above monitors?
anyone?
|>
|> Bus:
|> ISA vs EISA - does the EISA bus really make much difference with system
|> performance?
|>
Yes, EISA throughput is greater than ISA. Not by a long country mile but it is better. If you don't plan to buy any EISA cards, a local bus, ISA motherboard will suit you fine.
|> CPU:
|> How much difference does the system CPU speed matter? Would people recommend
|> spending ~$300 more for a 66 mhz DX2 over a 33 mhz DX?
Go for the 66. More is always better. In this case it just happens to be economical. (As comparied to a Pentium)
|> Anybody with experience with a pentium system?
|>
|>
|> If you have any information on the above questions, please PLEASE respond.
|> I will summarize the replies to the net if people are interested. Thanks
|> in advance,
|>
|> Varun
|> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
|>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: carr@frabits (Curt Carr)
Subject: ISA vs. EISA and NextStep
Message-ID: <1993Aug10.155407.7570@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov>
Sender: usenet@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (For NNTP so rrn will be able to post)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 15:54:07 GMT
I have heard that NS 3.1 for the 486 systems does not take advantage
of the 32 bit data path EISA supports and therefore there is no current
advantage to get EISA over ISA. Is this true? Does anyone know if and when
NeXT is going to use the 32 bit path over the 16 bit one or does it
really matter?
Thanks in advance for your time and response.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: icf@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ira Frosch)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on IBM PC's - ? on Video performance
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Aug10.155447.6740@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 15:54:47 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <244gg5$nr5@usenet.rpi.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <244gg5$nr5@usenet.rpi.edu>, gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:
|> I'd like to buy a genuine IBM PC to run NeXTSTEP on. However, as I read
|> over various things I get the impression that I just can't get snazzy video
|> performance and NeXTStation-Color quality on an IBM ValuePoint system. Am I
|> just reading this wrong?
|>
|> Commentary: I wish IBM would trot a few people over to NeXT and get MCA
|> support in NeXTSTEP/FIP. Hmm, probably need to add XGA-2 video support too,
|> along with support for 2.88meg floppies. I'd think that IBM would get a
|> good return out of that small investment, as NeXTSTEP is an OS that might
|> justify people buying the high-end IBM systems. Arrrrg....
|>
|> --
|> Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
|> ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
|> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
It was posted on the net about a month ago that MicroChannel will be supported later this year. I cheered this when I saw it.....
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From: bbrown@solana.com
Subject: HP scanjet IIc
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Hi,
Can I use an HP scanjet IIc with NS/Black and/or NS/FIP? Does anyone out there use this scanner? I have been offered a used model. Does anyone have an opinion about this model. Thanks much.
Bill Brown
bbrown@solana.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: icf@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ira Frosch)
Subject: 256 byte sectors for drives for Cubes
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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 16:22:12 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
Followup-To: iraf@vnet.ibm.com
In an unbelievable set of circumstances, I have managed to find two Cubes floating around that I want to set up for some file/print serving. They did not have hard drives, so I have found a couple of drives I *THINK* should work. However, does NeXTSTEP understand 256-bytes/sector? The drives I have are at 520 bytes (which I know DOES NOT work). (Why at 520? Long story). I'm trying to reformat off the NeXT's, but.....
Thanks.
Ira
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@adobe.com
Subject: Re: ISA vs. EISA and NextStep
Message-ID: <1993Aug10.172718.13880@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <1993Aug10.155407.7570@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 17:27:18 GMT
In article <1993Aug10.155407.7570@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> carr@frabits (Curt
Carr) writes:
> I have heard that NS 3.1 for the 486 systems does not take advantage
> of the 32 bit data path EISA supports and therefore there is no current
> advantage to get EISA over ISA. Is this true? Does anyone know if and when
> NeXT is going to use the 32 bit path over the 16 bit one or does it
> really matter?
>
> Thanks in advance for your time and response.
This is incorrect. EISA does provide a performance advantage over ISA when you
use EISA cards. If you plug an ISA card (16 bit) into an EISA bus, there is no
speed advantage since the card (not the bus) is only capable of 16 bit
transfers. To realize the performance advantage of machines with an EISA bus,
you must also use EISA cards.
Joe Pasqua
From: eh@rio70.bln.sni.de (eckhard henkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need NSFIP printer recommendations
Date: 10 Aug 1993 18:57:03 +0200
Organization: siemens nixdorf informationssysteme ag
Message-ID: <248k0v$rv@rio70.bln.sni.de>
References: <1993Aug5.015442.2002@proforma.com> <23q63g$ees@news.acns.nwu.edu>
jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
>I believe the 4ML has both serial and parallel, perhaps even the enhanced
>parallel that HP has been advocating.
I saw, the HP 4ML has an enhanced parallel port and an AppleTalk port, no
serial one.
I'm not firm with AppleTalk, therefore is my question:
Is it possible to connect a device like this printer to my NeXTstation
(NeXTstep 2.1, not yet updatet to 3.0/3.1) at a serial port?
With NS 3.0 ?
Is AppleTalk a protocol which can use a serial port? Speed ?
Eckhard Henkel
henkel.bln@sni.de
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 10 Aug 1993 15:20:55 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <248sen$3c4@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong
elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific
questions about NeXT's implementation or porting
issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups
(comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript,
comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that
may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU
Minor editing: Scott Anguish
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From: hibbitt@strings1.ph.qmw.ac.uk (John Hibbitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell system configuration
Date: 10 Aug 1993 19:25:20 GMT
Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK
Message-ID: <248sn0$fo1@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
References: <1993Aug10.141933.1@hei.unige.ch>
In article <1993Aug10.141933.1@hei.unige.ch> droux@hei.unige.ch writes:
>
> I'm planning to buy soon a PC to run NEXTSTEP with the following
> configuration. Will this system works with NS/FIP ? Does somebody
> have some comment, suggestion or warnings ?
>
> Dell System 466/ME (80486 DX2-66)
> etc.
I'm not sure which EISA SCSI interface Dell supply but there are a very
limited number supported by NEXTSTEP 3.1 for Intel. They are:
Bus Logic 747S
DPT 2012/90
DPT 2012/95
Therefore you should definitely ask and if they don't supply any of the above,
then go elsewhere for the card.
I wouldn't imagine disabling the on-board S3 would be a problem.
The Dell 466/ME is listed in the NEXTSTEP hardware compatability guide - which
is why we've bought one. ***HOWEVER***, we're having all sorts of trouble
installing NEXTSTEP. See article "Dell 466/ME - Anyone succeeded ?".
John Hibbitt
Dept of Physics
Queen Mary & Westfield College (University of London)
Mile End Road
London E1 4NS
United Kingdom
Email: J.Hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk (including NeXTMail)
Tel: +44 71-975-5055
From: hibbitt@strings1.ph.qmw.ac.uk (John Hibbitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dell 466/ME - Anyone succeeded ?
Date: 10 Aug 1993 19:26:18 GMT
Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK
Message-ID: <248soq$fr3@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
I've been charged (for my sins) with installing NEXTSTEP on a Dell 466/ME.
I seem to have missed some of the articles on this and haven't found any
record of success as yet. HAS ANYONE SUCCEEDED ?.
My experiences are listed below.
Having succeeded installing NEXTSTEP on another 486 using a SCSI hard disk,
Adaptec 1542C SCSI interface and NeXT CD-ROM, we put the same Adaptec card and
CD-ROM into the Dell and tried to install on the 430MB IDE hard drive. The
install program repeatedly (but erratically) failed due, apparently, to IDE
write errors and "Dropped IRQ 7" errors.
It has been mentioned that such unpredictable behaviour is due to a
combination of an early model of the 1542C, which according to Adaptec is
fully SCSI-2 compliant, and SCSI cables which aren't SCSI-2 compliant.
Adaptec have modified the card to be more tolerant of poor cabling but
unfortunately we've got the early version (visibly distinguishble from the
modified one).
I've tried two different SCSI cables to no avail so whilst the above
explanation sounds plausible, I'm not 100% convinced
John Hibbitt
Dept of Physics
Queen Mary & Westfield College (University of London)
Mile End Road
London E1 4NS
United Kingdom
Email: J.Hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk (including NeXTMail)
Tel: +44 71-975-5055
From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium systems, anyone?
Date: 10 Aug 1993 20:06:33 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <248v49INN7qh@gap.caltech.edu>
References: <23mda7$h1a@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) writes:
>Has anybody installed or used NS/I on a Pentium system?
>The floating point performance of Pentium seems to be
>quite a lot better than the 486, which would be good
>for DPS and 3D graphics. ALR is selling Pentium systems
>now, and I believe they are listed in the compatibility
>guide (albeit for 486 systems). Does NS/I not run on
>Pentium at all?
Yes, I have seen the ALR Evolution V (Pentium) series running under NS/I.
However, I never was able to get the sound card to work on the EvolutionV
which is an ISA machine. But everything ran perfectly under the Ve, an EISA
machine.
Tal
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From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP works on the ALR Evolution V (Pentium!)
Date: 10 Aug 1993 20:08:46 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <248v8eINN7u4@gap.caltech.edu>
References: <2478or$mtp@umd5.umd.edu>
rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
>Well, my ALR Evolution V (60 MHz Pentium!) just came in (ordered it in
>May!), and I installed my copy of NS/FIP on it *without* a hitch.
>My configuration:
> Adaptec 1542C SCSI card
> ATI GUP (VL)
> 660MB Fujitsu HD
> Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM
> 8 MB RAM (soon to be 40 MB :-)
> Mouse Systems mouse (using PS/2 port)
>NXBench reported the dhrystones to be ~88K/s (~56 VAX MIPs).
>Norton's SI gave an index of ~135.
>BTW, the computer came in a baby-AT case, instead of the full size case
>that ALR previously advertised (I much prefer the smaller case).
>The list price of this puppy (stripped -- no drive, 1 floppy, no video,
>8 MB RAM) is $2450.
Note, this is their ISA machine and it will crash if you try to use an
audio card. Other than that it runs great.
>Ross.
>--
>Ross Cutler
>University of Maryland, College Park
>Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
Tal
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From: matt@zeb.ame.nd.edu (Matthew J. Grismer)
Subject: NeXT laser printer problem
Message-ID: <1993Aug10.204745.9182@news.nd.edu>
Keywords: printer,next,laser
Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 20:47:45 GMT
I have access to a NeXT laser printer that is confused about paper jams.
It will print one page, and then a window will come up and say that the
paper is jammed, even though this is not the case. From then on, no matter
what you do, it thinks it is jammed, and will not print. If you turn it
off for a while, and reboot the NeXTstation driving it, it will once again
print a page, and then say there is a paper jam. The pages it prints are
fine, so the print mechanism seems ok. Any ideas on what is wrong, and how
it can be fixed?
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From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: August 10, 1993 NEXTSTEP Hardware Guide
Date: 10 Aug 1993 15:24:58 -0500
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NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3.1 FOR INTEL PROCESSORS
Hardware Compatibility Guide
August 10, 1993
For easy readability of this Hardware Guide:
If you are reading this with Mail.app, be sure to set
your font preference for this message to a smaller
proportional font (Ohlfs 10 point font).
This document describes in general terms, the types of PC-compatible
hardware that is supported by NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3.1 for Intel
Processors. Although may different vendors' systems will work with
NEXTSTEP, the systems listed here have been tested and found to be
compatible with NEXTSTEP. For any hardware specification or
purchase, please contact NeXT for the latest update to this guide.
PC compatibles, portables and laptops from the following
vendors are now supported:
ALR
ALTIMA
AST
COMPAQ
DATA GENERAL
DEC
EPSON
GATEWAY
HEWLETT PACKARD
IBM
INTEL
LOGISYS/LUCKY GOLDSTAR
NCR
NEC
TOSHIBA
UNISYS
ZENITH
CONTINENTAL COMPUTERS
GEC COMPUTERS
Driver updates:
Information on device driver updates may be obtained by sending
email to NeXTanswers@next.com with the subject of "INDEX HELP".
You will receive the master index for NeXTanswers.
NeXT and third parties are constantly developing and enhancing
drivers for NEXTSTEP. Updates to existing drivers, or new drivers
can be downloaded from the Internet via email or ftp. NeXTanswers
provides an easy method to obtain drivers by e-mail as described
above. (Note: you must be able to receive NeXTMail in order to
be able to receive drivers via email.) To obtain drivers via ftp:
use ftp to access ftp.next.com and login as anonymous with any
password and "cd" to /pub. Drivers can be downloaded from the
NeXTanswers directory.
** TABLE OF CONTENTS **
-> NEXTSTEP-COMPATIBLE Desktop Systems
-> NEXTSTEP-COMPATIBLE Portable Systems
-> NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors: Graphics Adapters
-> NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors: Other Devices and Adapters
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
-> NEXTSTEP-COMPATIBLE Desktop Systems
General Requirements for Desktop Systems:
CPU - i486 based or Pentium based PC Compatible Computer. This
includes 486SX, 486SL, 486DX, 486DX/2 or Pentium. 486SX systems
require a floating-point coprocessor, or upgrade to 486DX or DX2.
EXPANSION BUS - ISA or EISA expansion bus.
AVAILABLE HARD DISK SPACE - NEXTSTEP supports multiple partitioned
hard disks, allowing the user to install and boot several operating
systems from the same local hard disk. Larger local disks are
recommended for standalone systems or for systems with a local
non-NEXTSTEP partition.
NEXTSTEP User Environment
- 120 MB (megabyte) partition minimum
- 200 MB recommended for standalone systems
NEXTSTEP User + Developer Environments
- 330 MB partition minimum
- 400 MB recommended
RAM REQUIREMENTS - Ram requirements vary depending upon selection of
graphics adapter.
GRAPHICS MINIMUM RAM RECOMMENDED RAM
16 bit color 16 Megabytes 24 Megabytes
8 bit grayscale 12 Megabytes 16 Megabytes
2 bit grayscale 8 Megabytes 12 Megabytes
GRAPHICS ADAPTERS - See "NEXTSTEP for INTEL PROCESSORS GRAPHICS"
in this Guide for details on graphics support.
DISK INTERFACES - IDE and several SCSI Hard Disk Interfaces are
supported. NOTE: a SCSI adaptor and SCSI CDROM are
required for installation of NEXTSTEP.
POINTING DEVICES - Microsoft compatible PS/2 and serial mice. Logitec
PS/2, serial and bus mice.
PRINTERS - Any Postscript printer connected via a serial or
parallel port, including the NeXT Color Printer (connected
via a SCSI port). NeXT recommends color Postscript printers
with Postscript Level II for proper color support.
NETWORKING - Several Ethernet and Token Ring networking adapters are
supported. A networking adapter is optional.
SOUND - NEXTSTEP can support certain PC sound cards for
both playback and recording. A Sound card is optional.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
NEXTSTEP-Compatible Desktop Systems
PC MANUFACTURERS
Below appear the following graphics configurations for
NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors compatible hardware:
I. 16 Bit Color Systems
II 8 Bit Grayscale Systems
III. 2 Bit Grayscale Systems
I. 16 Bit Color Systems
ALR
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For ALR: 1MB VRAM is required for 800x600
For ALR: 2MB VRAM is required for 1024x768
(Driver Update required)
486DX, 486DX2
ALR Evolution IV/e EISA 33 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
VL-Bus
ALR Evolution IV/e EISA 50 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
VL-Bus
ALR Evolution IV/e EISA 66 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
VL-BUS
AST
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For AST Power Premium: see Add-On Graphics adapter chart
486DX, 486DX2
AST Power Premium EISA 33 Mhz Add-on EISA card
AST Power Premium EISA 50 Mhz Add-on EISA card
AST Power Premium EISA 66 Mhz Add-on EISA card
(Driver Update required)
486DX, 486DX2
AST Premmia 4/d EISA 33 Mhz Localbus ATI 68800
AST Premmia 4/d EISA 66 Mhz Localbus ATI 68800
COMPAQ
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
____________________________________________________________________
For all Compaq systems: see Graphics Adapter chart
486DX
Compaq Deskpro L EISA 50 Mhz EISA QVision
486DX, 486DX2
Compaq Deskpro M EISA 33 Mhz EISA QVision
Compaq Deskpro M EISA 50 Mhz EISA QVision
Compaq Deskpro M EISA 66 Mhz EISA QVision
Pentium
Compaq Deskpro 5M EISA 60 Mhz EISA QVision
Compaq Deskpro 5M EISA 66 Mhz EISA QVision
DATA GENERAL
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
486DX
DG Dasher LE2 EISA 66 Mhz Localbus ATI 68800
DEC
Vendor Model Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
DEC MTE-d2 system: requires 1 MB VRAM for 800x600 w/ Localbus S3-805
DEC MTE-d2 system: requires 1 MB VRAM for 800x600 w/ Localbus S3-928
DEC MTE-d2 system: requires 2 MB VRAM for 1024x768 w/ Localbus S3-928
DEC MTE-d2 system: requires 4 MB VRAM for 1280x1024 w/ LocalbusS3-928
486 DX2
(Driver Update required)
DEC MTE-d2 EISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
486 DX2
(Driver Update required)
DEC MTE-d2 EISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-928
DELL
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For 450DE/2 DGX: 2MB of VRAM - 16 bit color resolution is 1120 x 832
For Dell ME, L, M Series: 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600
486DX2
Dell 450DE/2 DGX EISA 50 Mhz Localbus JAWS
486DX, 486DX2
Dell ME Series EISA 33 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
Dell ME Series EISA 50 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
Dell ME Series EISA 66 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
486DX, 486DX2
Dell M Series ISA 33 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
Dell M Series ISA 50 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
Dell M Series ISA 66 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
486DX2
Dell L Series ISA 66 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
EPSON
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For Epson Progression NX: 2MB VRAM Version supports 1024x768
For Epson Progression: 2MB VRAM Version supports 1024x768
For Epson Progression: 1MB VRAM Version supports 800x600
For Epson Progression: 2MB VRAM Version supports 1120x832
(Driver update available for Progression, 1120x832)
486DX, 486DX2
Epson Progression NX ISA 33 Mhz Localbus C&T Wingine
Epson Progression NX ISA 66 Mhz Localbus C&T Wingine
Epson NX ISA 33 Mhz Localbus C&T Wingine
Epson NX ISA 66 Mhz Localbus C&T Wingine
Epson Progression ISA 33 Mhz Localbus C&T Wingine
Epson Progression ISA 66 Mhz Localbus C&T Wingine
GATEWAY
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For Gateway: requires 2MB VRAM for the 1024x768 16 bit color;
requires 1MB VRAM for the 800x600 16 bit color
486DX. 486DX2
Gateway Series V ISA 33 Mhz VL-bus ATI 68800
VL-Bus
Gateway Series V ISA 50 Mhz VL-bus ATI 68800
VL-Bus
Gateway Series V ISA 66 Mhz VL-bus ATI 68800
VL-Bus
HEWLETT PACKARD
Vendor Model Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For HP N and NI series: 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600 16 bit color
For HP Vectra XM series: 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600 16 bit color
For HP Vectra XM series: 2 MB VRAM supports 1024x768 16 bit color
[HP Vectra XM series: driver update required.]
[Vectra NI and XM-Series: LAN adapter not yet supported.]
486DX, 486DX2
Hewlett Vectra EISA 33 Mhz Add-on EISA card
Packard U
Hewlett Vectra EISA 50 Mhz Add-on EISA card
Packard U
Hewlett Vectra EISA 66 Mhz Add-on EISA card
Packard U
Hewlett Vectra ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard N
Hewlett Vectra ISA 50 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard N
Hewlett Vectra ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard N
Hewlett Vectra ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard NI
Hewlett Vectra ISA 50 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard NI
Hewlett Vectra ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard NI
Hewlett Vectra ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-928
Packard XM
Hewlett Vectra ISA 50 Mhz Localbus S3-928
Packard XM
Hewlett Vectra ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-928
Packard XM
IBM
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For IBM Value Point systems: 1MB VRAM for 16 bit - 800x600 resolution
(Please contact NeXT for an application note on installation)
(For NEXTSTEP 3.1: Driver Update required for all IBM systems)
486DX, 486DX2
IBM ValuePoint ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/S VL-BUS
IBM ValuePoint ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/S VL-BUS
IBM ValuePoint ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/D VL-BUS
IBM ValuePoint ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/D VL-BUS
IBM ValuePoint ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/T VL-BUS
IBM ValuePoint ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/T VL-BUS
INTEL
Vendor Model Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For Intel: 2MB VRAM for 1024x768 16 bit color
486DX2
Intel GX/Pro EISA 66 Mhz LocalBus ATI 68800
LOGISYS/LUCKY GOLDSTAR
Vendor name Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For Lucky Goldstar: 2 MB VRAM for 1024 x 768 resolution
486DX, 486DX2
Logisys/Lucky VL-Bus
Goldstar LG 486NX ISA 33 Mhz Localbus C&T Wingine
Logisys/Lucky VL-Bus
Goldstar LG 486NX ISA 66 Mhz Localbus C&T Wingine
NCR
Vendor Model Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
486DX2
ISA
NCR 3333 VL-Bus 66 Mhz VL-Bus graphics adapter
NEC
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For NEC: requires Compaq QVision 1024/E for 800x600 or ATI
Graphics Ultra Pro EISA with 2MB VRAM for 1024x768
486DX, 486DX2
NEC PowerMate Express
DX/2 EISA 33 Mhz Add-on EISA card
NEC PowerMate Express
DX/2 EISA 50 Mhz Add-on EISA card
NEC PowerMate Express
DX/2 EISA 66 Mhz Add-on EISA card
UNISYS
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For UNISYS: requires high resolution RAMDAC for NEXTSTEP support.
On-board SCSI & LAN not yet supported.
UNISYS U6000 DT2: Requires 1MB VRAM for 800x600
UNISYS U6000 DT2: Requires 2MB VRAM for 1024x768
486DX2
UNISYS U6000 DT2 EISA 66 Mhz Localbus ATI 68800
ZENITH
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
486DX, 486DX2
ZENITH Z-station XEn EISA 33 Mhz Add-on EISA
ZENITH Z-station XEn EISA 50 Mhz Add-on EISA
ZENITH Z-station XEn EISA 66 Mhz Add-on EISA
HARDWARE SYSTEM INTEGRATORS
16 bit Color Systems
CONTINENTAL COMPUTERS
Integrator Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For Continental computers: 1MB VRAM for 800x600 16 bit color;
2MB VRAM for 1024x768 16 bit color
486DX, 486DX2
CONTINENTAL 3800 NeXT EISA EISA 33 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
CONTINENTAL 3800 NeXT EISA EISA 50 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
CONTINENTAL 3800 NeXT EISA EISA 66 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
486DX, 486DX2
CONTINENTAL 3800 NeXT ISA ISA 33 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
CONTINENTAL 3800 NeXT ISA ISA 50 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
CONTINENTAL 3800 NeXT ISA ISA 66 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
GEC COMPUTERS
Vendor Model Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For GEC computers: 1MB VRAM for 800x600 16 bit color;
2MB VRAM for 1024x768 16 bit color
486DX, 486DX2
GEC Jet F86 ISA 33 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
GEC Jet F86 ISA 50 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
GEC Jet F86 ISA 66 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
486DX, 486DX2
GEC Jet F86 EISA 33 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
GEC Jet F86 EISA 50 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
GEC Jet F86 EISA 66 Mhz VL-Bus ATI 68800
II. 8 Bit Grayscale
COMPAQ
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
____________________________________________________________________
For all Compaq systems: see Graphics Adapter chart
486DX
Compaq Deskpro L EISA 50 Mhz EISA QVision
486DX, 486DX2
Compaq Deskpro M EISA 33 Mhz EISA QVision
Compaq Deskpro M EISA 50 Mhz EISA QVision
Compaq Deskpro M EISA 66 Mhz EISA QVision
Pentium
Compaq Deskpro 5M EISA 60 Mhz EISA QVision
Compaq Deskpro 5M EISA 66 Mhz EISA QVision
DEC
Vendor Model Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
DEC MTE-d2 system: requires 1 MB VRAM for 1024x768 w/ Localbus S3-805
DEC MTE-d2 system: requires 1 MB VRAM for 1024x768 w/ Localbus S3-928
DEC MTE-d2 system: requires 2 MB VRAM for 1280x1024 w/ LocalbusS3-928
486 DX2
(Driver Update required)
DEC MTE-d2 EISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
486 DX2
(Driver Update required)
DEC MTE-d2 EISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-928
DELL
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For Dell ME Series: 1 MB VRAM supports 8 bit - 1024x768 resolution
For Dell M Series: 1 MB VRAM supports 8 bit - 1024x768 resolution
For Dell L Series: 1 MB VRAM supports 8 bit - 1024x768 resolution
486DX, 486DX2
Dell ME Series EISA 33 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
Dell ME Series EISA 50 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
Dell ME Series EISA 66 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
486DX, 486DX2
Dell M Series ISA 33 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
Dell M Series ISA 50 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
Dell M Series ISA 66 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
486DX2
Dell L Series ISA 66 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
HEWLETT PACKARD
Vendor Model Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For HP N and NI: requires 1 MB VRAM for 8 bit - 1024x768 resolution
For HP Vectra XM series: 1 MB VRAM supports 8 bit - 1024x768
For HP Vectra XM series: 2 MB VRAM supports 8 bit - 1280x1024
[HP Vectra XM series: driver update required.]
[Vectra NI and XM-Series: LAN adapter not yet supported.]
486DX, 486DX2
Hewlett Vectra ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard N
Hewlett Vectra ISA 50 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard N
Hewlett Vectra ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard N
Hewlett Vectra ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard NI
Hewlett Vectra ISA 50 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard NI
Hewlett Vectra ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
Packard NI
Hewlett Vectra ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-928
Packard XM
Hewlett Vectra ISA 50 Mhz Localbus S3-928
Packard XM
Hewlett Vectra ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-928
Packard XM
IBM
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
(Please contact NeXT for an application note on installation)
(For NEXTSTEP 3.1: Driver Update required for all IBM systems)
For IBM Value Point systems: 1MB VRAM for 8 bit- 1023x768 resolution
486DX, 486DX2
IBM ValuePoint ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/S VL-BUS
IBM ValuePoint ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/S VL-BUS
IBM ValuePoint ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/D VL-BUS
IBM ValuePoint ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/D VL-BUS
IBM ValuePoint ISA 33 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/T VL-BUS
IBM ValuePoint ISA 66 Mhz Localbus S3-805
466DX2/T VL-BUS
NCR
Vendor Model Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
486DX2 ISA
NCR 3333 VL-Bus 66 Mhz VL-Bus graphics adapter
NEC
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For NEC: Select add-on EISA Graphics adapter
486DX, 486DX2
NEC PowerMate
Express DX/2 EISA 33 Mhz Add-on EISA card
NEC PowerMate
Express DX/2 EISA 50 Mhz Add-on EISA card
NEC PowerMate
Express DX/2 EISA 66 Mhz Add-on EISA card
ZENITH
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
486DX, 486DX2
ZENITH Z-station XEn EISA 33 Mhz Add-on EISA
ZENITH Z-station XEn EISA 50 Mhz Add-on EISA
ZENITH Z-station XEn EISA 66 Mhz Add-on EISA
III. 2 Bit Grayscale
AST
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
640x480 2 bit grayscale
486DX, 486DX2
AST Power Premium EISA 33 Mhz Built-in VGA
AST Power Premium EISA 50 Mhz Built-in VGA
AST Power Premium EISA 66 Mhz Built-in VGA
DELL
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For Dell L Series: 1 MB VRAM supports 1024x768 - 2 bit grayscale
486DX, 486DX2
Dell L Series ISA 33 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
(ET4000W32)
Dell L Series ISA 66 Mhz LocalBus S3-805
(ET4000W32)
HEWLETT PACKARD
Vendor Model Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
For HP: Built-in VGA supports 640-480 2 bit grayscale
486DX, 486DX2
Hewlett Vectra EISA 33 Mhz Built-in VGA
Packard U
Hewlett Vectra EISA 50 Mhz Built-in VGA
Packard U
Hewlett Vectra EISA 66 Mhz Built-in VGA
Packard U
NEC
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
Built-in VGA supports 1024x768 2-bit grayscale
486DX, 486DX2
NEC I-series ISA 33 Mhz LocalBus ET4000AX
NEC I-series ISA 50 Mhz LocalBus ET4000AX
NEC I-series ISA 66 Mhz LocalBus ET4000AX
486DX2
NEC Image 466 ISA 66 Mhz LocalBus ET4000W32
Built-in VGA supports 640x480 2-bit grayscale
486DX, 486DX2
NEC PowerMate
Express DX/2 EISA 33 Mhz Built-in VGA
NEC PowerMate
Express DX/2 EISA 50 Mhz Built-in VGA
NEC PowerMate
Express DX/2 EISA 66 Mhz Built-in VGA
ZENITH
Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
_____________________________________________________________________
Built-in VGA supports 640x480 2-bit grayscale
486DX, 486DX2
ZENITH Z-station XEn EISA 33 Mhz Built-in VGA
ZENITH Z-station XEn EISA 50 Mhz Built-in VGA
ZENITH Z-station XEn EISA 66 Mhz Built-in VGA
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-> NEXTSTEP-COMPATIBLE Portable Systems
OVERVIEW
CPU - i486 based PC Compatible Portable Computer. This
includes 486SX, 486SL, 486DX, 486DX/2. 486SX systems
require a floating-point coprocessor, or upgrade to 486DX
or DX2.
EXPANSION BUS - AC powered portables require at least one ISA or EISA
slot for a SCSI adapter to install NEXTSTEP from CD-ROM.
BATTERY-POWERED PORTABLES AND DOCKING STATIONS - Battery powered
portables require a docking station with at least one ISA slot for a
SCSI adapter to install NEXTSTEP from a CD-ROM. Once NEXTSTEP is
installed, the portable may be used away from the docking station.
AVAILABLE HARD DISK SPACE - NEXTSTEP supports multiple partitioned
hard disks, allowing the user to install and boot several operating
systems from the same local hard disk. Larger local disks are
recommended for standalone systems or for systems with a local
non-NEXTSTEP partition:
NEXTSTEP User Environment
- 120 MB (megabyte) partition minimum
- 200 MB recommended for standalone systems
NEXTSTEP User + Developer Environments
- 330 MB partition minimum
- 400 MB recommended
RAM REQUIREMENTS - RAM requirements vary depending upon selection of
graphics adapter:
GRAPHICS MINIMUM RAM RECOMMENDED RAM
16 bit color 16 Megabytes 24 Megabytes
8 bit grayscale 12 Megabytes 16 Megabytes
2 bit grayscale 8 Megabytes 12 Megabytes(+)
Note: Since 16 bit color and 8 bit color grayscale
support require LocalBus, VL-Bus, PCI, or EISA graphics
adapters, only AC-powered portables with EISA slots can
support 16 bit color or 8 bit grayscale.
(+) - NeXT recommends a minimum of 12MB or RAM for acceptable
performance on portables.
GRAPHICS ADAPTERS - Current display panel technology in popular
PC-compatibles is limited to 640x480 resolution and cannot yet
display 16 bit color. These systems do not yet support the linear
buffer NEXTSTEP requires for 16 bit color or 8 bit grayscale.
Therefore, NEXTSTEP supports these systems with 2-bit grayscale at
640x480. Active matrix or plasma panels are recommended for better
cursor tracking response. ISA systems (AC-powered or through a
docking station) can support add-on, high resolution 2-bit grayscale
graphics adapters and EISA-based AC-powered portables can support
16-bit color or 8-bit grayscale graphics with an add-on EISA graphics
adapter.
DISK INTERFACES - Both built-in IDE and add-on SCSI Hard Disk
Interfaces are supported. Battery powered portables require a
docking station to install a SCSI hard disk interface card.
POINTING DEVICES - Microsoft and Logitec compatible PS/2 and serial
mice are supported.
PRINTERS - Any Postscript printer connected via a serial or
parallel port, including the NeXT Color Printer (connected
via a SCSI port). NeXT recommends color Postscript printers
with Postscript Level II for proper color support.
NETWORKING - Ethernet and Token Ring networking adapters are
supported. Battery-powered portables require a docking station to
install a networking adapter. A networking adapter is optional.
SOUND - NEXTSTEP can support certain PC sound cards for both
playback and recording. Battery-powered portables require a docking
station to install a sound card. A Sound card is optional.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
NEXTSTEP-Compatible Portable Systems
PC MANUFACTURERS
I. Built-in Panel Portables
ALTIMA
Vendor Model Power Panel CPU Dock. Max disk
Source type Speed Exp. /RAM
_____________________________________________________________________
486DX
ALTIMA 433D Battery Passive 33 Mhz ISA 200/20
Matrix
Mono
Built-in panel supports 640x480 2-bit grayscale
Built-in expansion: Fax/modem
Send email to nextanswers@next.com for update on pointer
support for Altima 433D.
AST
Vendor Model Power Panel CPU Dock. Max disk
Source type Speed Exp. /RAM
_____________________________________________________________________
486SL
AST Power- Battery Passive 25 Mhz ISA 200/32
Exec Color KMM
4SL or Mono MS
AST Power- Battery Active 25 Mhz ISA 200/32
Exec Matrix KMM
4SL Mono MS
Built-in panel supports 640x480 2-bit grayscale
Built-in expansion: Fax/modem
COMPAQ
Vendor Model Power Panel CPU Dock. Max disk
Source type Speed Exp. /RAM
_____________________________________________________________________
486DX, 486DX2
COMPAQ 486/M AC Passive 25 Mhz 525/32
Port. Matrix
Mono
COMPAQ 486/M AC Passive 33 Mhz 525/32
Port. Matrix
Mono
COMPAQ 486/C AC Active 25 Mhz 525/32
Port. Matrix
Color
COMPAQ 486/C AC Active 33 Mhz 525/32
Port. Matrix
Color
486SL
COMPAQ LTE Battery Active 25 Mhz ISA 200/20
Lite Matrix KMM
4/25c Color MS
Built-in panel supports 640x480 2-bit grayscale
Built-in expansion: Fax/modem (EISA expansion for 486/C and 486/M)
NEC
Vendor Model Power Panel CPU Dock. Max disk
Source type Speed Exp. /RAM
_____________________________________________________________________
486SX
NEC Pro- AC Active 20 Mhz 200/20
Speed Matrix
486C Color
486SL
NEC Ultra- Battery Passive 20 Mhz ISA 180/12
lite Matrix MS
Versa M Mono KMM
NEC Ultra- Battery Passive 25 Mhz ISA 180/12
lite Matrix MS
Versa M Mono KMM
NEC Ultra- Battery Active 20 Mhz ISA 180/12
lite Matrix MS
Versa C Color KMM
NEC Ultra- Battery Active 25 Mhz ISA 180/12
lite Matrix MS
Versa C Color KMM
Built-in panel supports 640x480 2-bit grayscale
Built-in expansion: Fax/modem (EISA expansion for ProSpeed 486C)
Built-in expansion: PCMCIA for Ultralite Versa C & M models
ProSpeed 486C requires floating point upgrade.
Send email to nextanswers@next.com for update on built-in trackball
support for LTE Lite 4/25c.
TOSHIBA
Vendor Model Power Panel CPU Dock. Max disk
Source type Speed Exp. /RAM
_____________________________________________________________________
486DX, 486DX2
TOSHIBA T6400DX AC Passive 33 Mhz 200/32
Mono or
Plasma
TOSHIBA T6400DX AC Passive 50 Mhz 200/32
Mono or
Plasma
TOSHIBA T6400 AC Active 33 Mhz 200/32
DXC Matrix
Color
TOSHIBA T6400 AC Active 50 Mhz 200/32
DXC Matrix
Color
486SX
TOSHIBA T4400SX Battery Passive 25 Mhz ISA 120/20
Mono or MS
Plasma KMM
TOSHIBA T4400 Battery Active 25 Mhz ISA 120/20
SXC Matrix MS
Color KMM
486DX
TOSHIBA T4400C Battery Active 25 Mhz ISA 120/20
Matrix MS
Color KMM
Built-in panel supports 640x480 2-bit grayscale
Built-in expansion: Fax/modem (ISA expansion for T6400DX and T6400DXC
models)
T4400SX and T4400SXC require floating point upgrades.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
-> NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors: Graphics Adapters
OVERVIEW
NEXTSTEP GRAPHICS SYSTEM
NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors' Display Postscript graphic system
supports such advanced capabilities as scalable fonts, unified
imaging model for both screen display and printing, image
transparency (also known as alpha channel), Pantone color matching,
and Pixar Interactive Renderman 3D imaging. NEXTSTEP's window server
composites multiple layers of images, and allows the user to work
with images of any quality with any supported imaging model, in other
words users can work with a 32 bit color image even on a 2-bit
grayscale system! In order to provide these sophisticated
capabilities NEXTSTEP requires a "workstation"-style linear frame
buffer graphics system and a high performance 32-bit data path to the
frame buffer. The number of colors or shades of gray, depth of
transparency, etc., varies depending on the image model supported.
** TABLE FOR NEXTSTEP IMAGING **
Imaging Model Colors or Transparency Window Server Support
Shades of (alpha channel) for Renderman 3D
Gray Graphics
_____________________________________________________________________
32-bit color 24-bit - 8-bit (256 YES
16 million levels)
colors
16-bit color 12-bit - 4-bit (16 YES
4096 colors levels)
32-BIT COLOR
2-bit color support on Intel-based PCs is planned for
a future release of NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors.
16-BIT COLOR
Graphics Architectures Supported - Intel JAWS (such as DELL
Processor-Direct Graphics), Chips and Technologies Wingine, ATI
Graphics Ultra Pro (68800), S3-805 and Compaq QVision. Due to the
performance requirements of 16-bit color, these graphics adapters
must be connected via LocalBus, VESA LocalBus (VL-Bus), PCI or EISA.
The ISA expansion bus does not provide the 32-bit data path, or
adequate performance to support NEXTSTEP 16-bit color. Future
support is planned for the Tseng Labs ET-4000W32i and S3-928. Refer
to the Desktop Systems and Add-on Graphics Adapter charts for
specific adapter support.
Supported Resolutions: 800x600, 1024x768, 1120x832. Specific
support varies by graphics adapter and graphics frame buffer size.
8-BIT GRAYSCALE
Graphics Architectures Supported - S3-805 and Compaq QVision. Due to
the performance requirements of 8-bit grayscale, these graphics
adapters must be connected via LocalBus, VESA LocalBus (VL-Bus), PCI
or EISA. The ISA expansion bus does not provide the 32-bit data, or
adequate performance to support NEXTSTEP 8-bit color. Future
support is planned for the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro (68800), Tseng Labs
ET-4000W32i and S3-928. Refer to the Desktop Systems and Add-on
Graphics Adapter charts for specific adapter support.
Supported Resolutions: 1024x768 or 1280x1024. Specific
support varies by graphics adapter and graphics frame buffer size.
2-BIT GRAYSCALE
NeXT has devoted a special driver that simulates the linear frame
buffer required by NEXTSTEP's graphics system on segmented frame
buffer graphics adapters such as standard VGA and Super VGA cards.
This allows NEXTSTEP to support most standard VGA cards as well as
certain Super VGA cards. Refer to the Desktop Systems and Add-on
Graphics Adapter charts for specific adapter support.
Graphics Architectures Supported - Standard VGA compatible and
certain Super VGA graphics adapters using the Tseng Labs ET-4000AX or
Cirrus Logic GD 542X. These graphics adapters can be connected via
LocalBus, VESA LocalBus (VL-BUS), PCI, EISA or ISA.
Supported Resolutions: 640x480 (Standard VGA) or 1024x769 (Super
VGA).
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NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors Graphics
MANUFACTURERS OF GRAPHICS ADAPTERS
ATI 68800
Vendor Model Bus Driver Graphics Resolutions Supported
_____________________________________________________________________
ATI Ultra- VL-BUS ATI 16 bit color:
Pro Ultra- 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600
Pro 2 MB VRAM supports 1024x768
ATI Ultra- VL-BUS ATI 16 bit color:
Pro Ultra- 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600
Pro 2 MB VRAM supports 1024x768
ATI Ultra- EISA ATI 16 bit color:
Pro Ultra- 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600
Pro 2 MB VRAM supports 1024x768
ATI Ultra- EISA ATI 16 bit color:
Pro Ultra- 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600
Pro 2 MB VRAM supports 1024x768
COMPAQ QVISION
Vendor Model Bus Driver Graphics Resolutions Supported
_____________________________________________________________________
COMPAQ QVision EISA Compaq 16 bit color:
1024/E QVision 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600
8 bit grayscale:
1 MB VRAM supports 1024x768
COMPAQ QVision EISA Compaq 16 bit color:
1280/E QVision 1 MB VRAM supports 800x600
2 MB VRAM supports 1024x768
8 bit grayscale:
1 MB VRAM supports 1024x768
2 MB VRAM supports 1280x1024
CIRRUS LOGIC GD542X
Vendor Model Bus Driver Graphics Resolutions Supported
_____________________________________________________________________
STB Horizon ISA Cirrus 2 bit grayscale:
Logic .5 MB VRAM supports 1024x768
GD542X
JAWS
Vendor Model Bus Driver Graphics Resolutions Supported
_____________________________________________________________________
DELL 450DE/2 Local- DELL 16 bit color:
DGX bus JAWS 2 MB VRAM supports 1120x832
DGX
Note: Upgrade for Dell 450DE only.
TSENG LABS ET-4000AX
Vendor Model Bus Driver Graphics Resolutions Supported
_____________________________________________________________________
ISA Tseng 2 bit grayscale:
Labs .5 MB VRAM supports 1024x768
ET4000
STANDARD VGA
Vendor Model Bus Driver Graphics Resolutions
_____________________________________________________________________
various various ISA VGA 2 bit grayscale
Adapter 640x480 resolution
(default)
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
-> NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors: Other Devices and Adapters
NEXTSTEP supports a variety of additional devices and add-on
adapters:
DISK INTERFACES
Both IDE and several SCSI hard disk interfaces are supported.
POINTING DEVICES
Microsoft compatible PS/2 and serial mice. Logitec PS/2,
serial, and bus mice.
PRINTERS
Any Postscript printer connected via a serial or
parallel port, including the NeXT Color Printer (connected
via a SCSI port). NeXT recommends color Postscript printers
with Postscript Level II for proper color support.
NETWORKING
Several Ethernet and Token Ring networking adapters are
supported. A networking adapter is optional.
SOUND
NEXTSTEP can support certain PC sound cards for
both playback and recording. A Sound card is optional.
ADDITIONAL DEVICES
Other popular PC peripherals such as FAX/Modems will be
supported.
DRIVERKIT
NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors incorporates a newly developed
object-oriented driver architecture called DriverKit. DriverKit
allows the quick development of device drivers for new peripherals
and add-on cards for Intel-based PCs running NEXTSTEP. DriverKit's
architecture allows drivers to be loaded at run-time, thereby
allowing users to add additional cards or devices to their systems
without re-installing the main operating system. Loadable device
drivers also allow NeXT and third parties to easily distribute
additional drivers as they become available. NeXT is actively
working with hardware manufacturers and third parties to provide
additional drivers for NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors.
Developers interested in the DriverKit should contact Developer
Support (1-800-848-6398) and join the registered developer program.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors
ADDITIONAL DEVICE SUPPORT PRODUCTS
FLOPPY DISK
Vendor Model Bus Driver
_____________________________________________________________________
3.5 inch Floppy Disk
1.44MB floppy Controller
IDE HARD DISK INTERFACE
Vendor Model Bus Driver
_____________________________________________________________________
IDE IDE Disk Controller
SCSI HARD DISK INTERFACE
Note on Adaptec 1542c & 1742, DPT 2011/95 & 2012/95: built-in floppy
disk interface not supported
Vendor Model Bus Driver Additional Features
_____________________________________________________________________
Adaptec 1540B ISA Adaptec 1542B
SCSI adapter
Adaptec 1540C ISA Adaptec 1542B Built-in floppy disk
SCSI adapter not supported
Adaptec 1740 EISA Planned for 3.2
release of NEXTSTEP
Adaptec 1742 EISA Planned for 3.2
release of NEXTSTEP
Bus 542B ISA Adaptec 1542B
Logic SCSI adapter
Bus 747S EISA Adaptec 1542B
Logic SCSI adapter
DPT 2012/90 EISA DPT 2012B EISA 512K-16.5MB cache
SCSI Adapter upgradable
DPT 2012/95 EISA DPT 2012B EISA 512K-16.5MB cache
SCSI Adapter upgradable
(Built-in floppy not
supported)
DPT 2011/90 ISA 512K-16.5MB cache
upgradable
planned for 3.2
DPT 2011/95 ISA 512K-16.5MB cache
upgradable
planned for 3.2
(Built-in floppy not
supported)
SCSI TAPE
Vendor Model Bus Driver Additional Features
_____________________________________________________________________
SCSI SCSI tape Driver update
tape driver available
PARALLEL PORT
Vendor Model Bus Driver Additional Features
_____________________________________________________________________
Standard On-board
Parallel Port Parallel port
SERIAL PORT
Vendor Model Bus Driver Additional Features
_____________________________________________________________________
Standard On-board Supports COM1 & COM2
Serial Ports serial ports
LOCAL AREA NETWORK ADAPTERS
Note on Intel Etherlink: support of TP port requires Driver update
Vendor Model Bus Driver Additional Features
_____________________________________________________________________
3COM Etherlink III ISA 3COM Ethernet coax or
(3C509) Etherlink III twisted pair
ethernet adapter
SMC Etherlink 16 ISA SMC Ethernet coax or
(8013) Elite 16 twisted pair
ethernet adapter
INTEL EtherExpress 16 ISA Intel Ether- Ethernet coax or
(TP, Coax or Combo) Express twisted pair
ethernet adapter
INTEL TokenExpress ISA Intel Token- Token ring
Express ISA
Token Ring
POINTING DEVICES
Vendor Model Bus Driver
_____________________________________________________________________
Microsoft MS mouse serial mouse serial mouse
Microsoft MS mouse PS/2 mouse port PS/2 mouse
Logitec Mouse Man serial mouse serial mouse
(Right or adapter
Left)
Logitec Mouse Man PS/2 mouse PS/2 mouse
(Right or adapter
Left)
Logitec Mouse Man Bus Bus mouse Bus mouse
adapter
AUDIO DEVICES
NOTE: Driver updates required for Intel and Compaq audio devices
Vendor Model Bus Driver Features
_____________________________________________________________________
Media ProAudio ISA ProAudio Up to CD quality
Vision Spectrum 16 Spectrum 16 stereo record & play
Media Pro ISA ProAudio Up to CD quality
Vision Studio 16 Spectrum 16 stereo record & play
Intel GX/Professional CPU planned for Up to CD quality
board NEXTSTEP 3.2 stereo record & play
Compaq Business Audio CPU planned for Up to CD quality
board NEXTSTEP 3.2 stereo record & play
Compaq Standard PC CPU System beep System audio alerts
speaker support board driver only
Microsoft
Sound System ISA Up to CD quality
Microsoft
Standard
PC speaker CPU System beep System audio alerts
board driver only
PRINTERS
Vendor Model Bus Interface
_____________________________________________________________________
NeXT Color Printer SCSI
Standard Adobe Postscript Serial or parallel
Printers
(Postscipt Level II recommended for proper color support.)
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
August 10, 1993
NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3.1 FOR INTEL PROCESSORS
Hardware Compatibility Guide
- end -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello)
Subject: Re: success story (Long)
Message-ID: <1993Aug10.201602.6896@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <CBJ0L9.qz@np.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 20:16:02 GMT
In article <CBJ0L9.qz@np.com> paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom) writes:
> A couple of people have mentioned that they would appreciate hearing
> from someone who had successfully installed NS/I, especially on a
> non-standard machine. Hence this post.
>
> Hardware:
>
> AST Premmia 486/66 (EISA)
> 40MB memory
> 525MB IDE drive
> 2.1GB SCSI drive
> ATI Graphics UltraPro (EISA)
> ZyXEL U-1496E modem
> HP LaserJet 4M
> Toshiba 3401 External CD-ROM
> Persona PC speakers
> Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller (floppy disabled)
> ProAudio Spectrum 16 sound card
> NEC MultiSync 6FG
>
> Installation
>
> Apparently, I had minimal problems compared to most. I ran into a
> few glitches, all of which have been discussed here at one point or
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> [munch on what I would call a whole bunch of glitches]
>
> Paul Nordstrom
> NP Consulting
> paul@np.com
I haven't been following this newsgroup very closely, but every time I do
I see stories like this one. The owner is very satisfied with NS/I once it
is installed (the good news), but the installation process is filled with
potholes (the bad news). (And the above posting was entitled a SUCCESS
story) Now this is understandable given the googolplex possible
combinations of PC hardware components.
However, is anyone archiving all these stories?
When I finally get around to buying a PC and installing NS/I, I would
appreciate knowing in advance some of the problems I might run into
without getting them solved one at a time over a couple of anxious weeks
using this newsgroup (like everyone else seems to be doing). And I don't
want to keep monitoring and saving messages from here in the meantime.
I guess you might call me PC-naive compared to some of the posters I've
seen here. I'm used to black hardware where installation just worked (now
of course sys admin was another thing entirely...I suspect that's even
worse with NS/I).
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Colello
Carnegie Institution, Department of Plant Biology
Stanford University
gcolello@biosphere.stanford.edu (NeXT mail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Compaq LTE 4/25E for NS/I ?
Message-ID: <1993Aug10.204342.7996@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 20:43:42 GMT
The latest NS/I hardware compatibility guide lists the Compaq LTE
Lite 4/25C as being NS/I qualified. This model has a color active
matrix display. I've just received some literature from Compaq
touting their new LTE 4/25E, which has a black and white active
matrix (which makes it cheaper and gives it more battery life). Does
anyone know if this model will run NS/I? Except for the B&W screen,
it seems to have the same specs as the 4/25C.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: success story (Long)
Date: 10 Aug 1993 21:22:03 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <2493hs$40c@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <CBJ0L9.qz@np.com> <1993Aug10.201602.6896@leland.Stanford.EDU>
In article <1993Aug10.201602.6896@leland.Stanford.EDU> gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello) writes:
>In article <CBJ0L9.qz@np.com> paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom) writes:
>> A couple of people have mentioned that they would appreciate hearing
>> from someone who had successfully installed NS/I, especially on a
>> non-standard machine. Hence this post.
>> [misc deleted]
>> Apparently, I had minimal problems compared to most. I ran into a
>> few glitches, all of which have been discussed here at one point or
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>I haven't been following this newsgroup very closely, but every time I do
>I see stories like this one. The owner is very satisfied with NS/I once it
>is installed (the good news), but the installation process is filled with
>potholes (the bad news). (And the above posting was entitled a SUCCESS
>story) Now this is understandable given the googolplex possible
>combinations of PC hardware components.
>
>However, is anyone archiving all these stories?
>
>When I finally get around to buying a PC and installing NS/I, I would
>appreciate knowing in advance some of the problems I might run into
>without getting them solved one at a time over a couple of anxious weeks
>using this newsgroup (like everyone else seems to be doing). And I don't
>want to keep monitoring and saving messages from here in the meantime.
>
>I guess you might call me PC-naive compared to some of the posters I've
>seen here. I'm used to black hardware where installation just worked (now
>of course sys admin was another thing entirely...I suspect that's even
>worse with NS/I).
>
As you say there are a googolpex of PC configurations to deal with so
in essence each NS/FIP installation is a small victory. Like yourself
I am relatively PC naive, having chosen or been able to skip all this
this PC/MSDOZE junk for the blackhardware. Since much of the initial
installations has little to do with NS itself, it is probably a good
thing that those with limited PC knowledge are able to achieve success.
Whether those with less technical knowledge will be as successful is still
a concern. Fortunate for Next that most of the early 3.1 Intel pioneers
are already Next fanatics.
It will be interesting to see if anything we've learned in 3.1 installation
makes it to 3.2 improvements. If so, then I think NeXT will be well
on its way to having the common folk install Nextstep. Hopefully that
next wave of users is already on its way. I hope Next is ready.
As far as an archive, I think it may be a little too early for that.
Most of us are still fresh from our installs and not quite anywhere
near the plateau of the learning curve. After the 3.2 release there
will be more time and need for that.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: wardm@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: another installation success (finally)
Date: 10 Aug 1993 22:01:21 GMT
Organization: THOUGHT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2495rh$6l8@male.EBay.Sun.COM>
After a lot of fiddling, and re-reading the release notes over and over again for
any clues, I managed to get NS/FIP up and running!
Platform as follows
HINT 386/486 EISA/VESA Motherboard with a DX2-66 installed
16MB of ram
Adaptec 1542B
SCSI CD-ROM
Maxtor 200MB SCSI HD
IDE FD/HD controller with serial/parallel ports and HD disabled
Diamond Speedstar ET4000 running as a VGA card because of the monitor
Interlaced SVGA monitor (Time for that upgrade!)
The first problem is that the ET4000 doesn't display *any* of the booting
messages past the loading the kernel message (i.e. I had to install it in the
dark by reading the installation manual and answering the questions (Thank you
NeXT for putting all of them accurately in the installation manual! I have had
problems from other Operating Systems with this particular ET4000 card (It was
the first Hi-color one that Diamond manufactured) so I'm not *overly* suprised
that NeXTstep didn't handle it well.
This motherboard requires the floppy to be ejected after it loads the kernel
and starts querying the scsi devices. This was a *hard* combo of problems to
figure out!
The good news is that once the mini-system was installed, and I could boot it
config=Default, the system ran really well! I was really suprised that I even
found the graphics performance acceptable! But then I upgraded from a 25Mhz 386
so it had *better* seem fast.
The only anomoly I have noticed is that it won't boot sometimes, it will lock
after the configuration files are loaded and I have to reset it. But once the
system is booted it runs very well. I think this is a problem with my SCSI
termination, but I just haven't pulled all of my drives to make sure that
termination is done correctly.
It was a pain in the but installing it, but it was worth it to see the Workspace
Manager running on my screen!
The motherboard was only $692 and it comes with 3 ISA, 3 EISA/ISA and 2 VESA/ISA
slots, 256K cache and goes up to 128MB of memory and a Pentium capable ZIF Socket
with the DX2-66 CPU already installed. A reasonably inexpensive upgrade
since I already owned the rest of the components.
If anyone is interested in purchasing the same board, I purchased it from
MC Technology of Hayward California, the number is (510) 670-0636 ask
for IRIS and tell her that Ward sent you.
Good luck to everyone, and I hope this helps others!
Ward Mullins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ken@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
Subject: Re: success story (Long)
In-Reply-To: gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU's message of Tue, 10 Aug 93 20:16:02 GMT
Message-ID: <KEN.93Aug11103907@nobunaga.phys.titech.ac.jp>
Sender: news@phys.titech.ac.jp (Usenet News System)
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology
References: <CBJ0L9.qz@np.com> <1993Aug10.201602.6896@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 01:39:07 GMT
In article <1993Aug10.201602.6896@leland.Stanford.EDU> gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello) writes:
In article <CBJ0L9.qz@np.com> paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom) writes:
> A couple of people have mentioned that they would appreciate hearing
> from someone who had successfully installed NS/I, especially on a
> non-standard machine. Hence this post.
^^^^^^^^^^^
> Installation
>
> Apparently, I had minimal problems compared to most. I ran into a
> few glitches, all of which have been discussed here at one point or
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> [munch on what I would call a whole bunch of glitches]
>
> Paul Nordstrom
> NP Consulting
> paul@np.com
I haven't been following this newsgroup very closely, but every time I do
I see stories like this one. The owner is very satisfied with NS/I once it
is installed (the good news), but the installation process is filled with
potholes (the bad news). (And the above posting was entitled a SUCCESS
story) Now this is understandable given the googolplex possible
combinations of PC hardware components.
.....
I guess you might call me PC-naive compared to some of the posters I've
seen here. I'm used to black hardware where installation just worked (now
of course sys admin was another thing entirely...I suspect that's even
worse with NS/I).
Me too, I am PC naive, definitely. Yes these stories are scary.
But, what should be pointed out (perhaps Greg just failed to mention
it) is that these success stories, esp. this one, is for
a home brew system, not the ones with the official NeXT
seal of approval.
Call me an optimist, but I assume that
a. for every one of these non-standard configuration
success stories, there are a hundred trivial installs on
approved hardware.
b. installation will get more stable with 3.2 and later releases.
and
c. pretty soon, there will be a lot of pre-installed machines
on the market with competitive prices so that all these
problems will be easy to avoid. (yeah, right.)
Btw, I administered a few networked NeXT's and it was
no more difficult than ordinary unix boxes --- I would
claim that it is easier. I would expect no worse with
NS/FIP *once* you have the machine working with NS.
(That is, with ethernet cards, drivers, etc, working.)
--
Kenichiro Aoki (ken@phys.titech.ac.jp), Department of Physics,
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Oh-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, JAPAN
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jakc@world.std.com (john a curry)
Subject: Re: how to make 030 board work with turbo board
Message-ID: <CBKyqL.J3C@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <1993Aug7.013457.19968@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 05:47:08 GMT
jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum) writes:
>I am about to buy an 030 board to run an OD drive in my turbo cube.
>DOes anyone have the directions for making it work with the existing
>board? I'd like to see how difficult it is before I buy the board.
>Thanks!
>-jeff
>--
>"His eyes were eggs of unstable crystal, vibrating with a frequency whose
>name was rain and the sound of trains, suddenly sprouting a humming
>forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
You can indeed use your 030 board in your turbo cube but you must slightly
modify some of your hardware to do it.
First you must modify your backplane in the cube itself because the CPU board
must think it is in slot 0 to work properly. Unfortunatly I am writing to you
on a whim and on my cube so I do not have it apart to tell you exactly what to
do to your backplane. Essentialy you must play with the jumper traces which
are next to each nextbus slot in order to set the slot which you are going to
install your 030 into to 0 just like the turbo's slot.
NeXT you remove the nextbus chip from the motherboard, this is the black VLSI
chip next to the bus connector on the CPU you can now connect a monitor and
simply net-boot your machine by connecting ethernet from one CPU to the
other. I would suggest as much ram as possible and even a swapdisk if there
is space. if you do not want to use a monitor mail me back and I can tell
you how to build a little switch to allow you to turn the machine on
monitorless.
Robert Houllahan using jakc's account at the world
From: mikew@pencom.com (Michael E. Wren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell system configuration
Message-ID: <1993Aug10.153254.7108@pencom.com>
Date: 10 Aug 93 15:32:54 GMT
References: <1993Aug10.141933.1@hei.unige.ch>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (Usenet Pseudo User)
Organization: Pencom Software
In article <1993Aug10.141933.1@hei.unige.ch> droux@hei.unige.ch writes:
>
> I'm planning to buy soon a PC to run NEXTSTEP with the following
> configuration. Will this system works with NS/FIP ? Does somebody
> have some comment, suggestion or warnings ?
>
> Dell System 466/ME (80486 DX2-66)
> 32 MB RAM (Bundled)
> SCSI Controller (EISA) "
> SCSI CD-ROM "
> 1.2 GB SCSI HD IBM-0663
> ATI Ultra-Pro (2MB EISA)
> 17'' Monitor "
>
> I've also few questions about this configuration :
>
> 2. Is it easy to replace the on-board S3 graphic adapter
> by an ATI for example ?
Yes, it works fine. Just do the installation of NeXTSTEP without the ATI
card first.
Then use Configure.app to set your video to ATI Ultra pro. Make sure you
have the correct scan rate for your monitor and resolution.
Power off.
Insert your ATI card. Connect your monitor to the ATI. Turn your monitor
on before turning your system on (ATI card senses your monitor type at
boot up time.)
Reboot with the EISA utility disk. Tell EISA about your card by following
the instructions with your program. (This is so you won't get a Config
Error in Slot N when you boot up, but otherwise I don't think it means
anything.)
Reboot into NeXTSTEP.
If you do something incorrectly, you might get some double images or other
yucky stuff. (If this happens, EMail me.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: james@stst.com (James St.Clair)
Subject: system panic when dumping to an Archive DAT
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.045033.1325@stst.com>
Keywords: dump,DAT,Archive
Sender: james@stst.com
Organization: Saint Street,Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 04:50:33 GMT
We have an Archive Python DAT(no HW compression).It has been used
successfully to perform a level 0 dump of a color NeXTstation.
Unfortunately, when we use the DAT to perform a level 0 dump of either
of two Turbo NeXTstations we get a system panic before the dump is
complete. It is repeatable. We have tried it twice on each Turbo with
exactly the same result.We always do the dump in single user mode which
has been preceded by a successful fsck. The dump command we use is
dump 0unsdf 10240 61000 /dev/rst0.
The s and d values were recommended by tech support at Archive.
The DAT is using Archive's firmware revision 2.50 which is the version
recommended by Archive for use on NeXT computers.
The exact error message we receive on the system panic is as follows:
panic:(Cpu 0) dma_list: zero pfnum
NeXT ROM Monitor 3.0 v70
panic: NeXT Mach 3.0: date and so forth
Any clues on what is causing this problem would be appreciated.
--
James St.Clair
Saint Street, Inc.
james@stst.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Dell system configuration
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.053735.4414@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <248sn0$fo1@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 05:37:35 GMT
In article <248sn0$fo1@beta.qmw.ac.uk> hibbitt@strings1.ph.qmw.ac.uk (John
Hibbitt) writes:
> I'm not sure which EISA SCSI interface Dell supply but there are a very
> limited number supported by NEXTSTEP 3.1 for Intel. They are:
>
> Bus Logic 747S
> DPT 2012/90
> DPT 2012/95
The DPT 2022 (which replaces the 2012) is now available, and much better.
Make sure you get the newer one (which works fine with NEXTSTEP).
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: ISA vs. EISA and NextStep
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.053847.4470@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug10.155407.7570@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 05:38:47 GMT
In article <1993Aug10.155407.7570@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> carr@frabits
(Curt Carr) writes:
> I have heard that NS 3.1 for the 486 systems does not take advantage
> of the 32 bit data path EISA supports and therefore there is no current
> advantage to get EISA over ISA. Is this true?
No. Did you hear it from a Microsoft employee?
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP ethernet hardware
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.054345.4530@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <bchin.744955862@news.andi.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 05:43:45 GMT
In article <bchin.744955862@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
Chin) writes:
> Also, I saw an ad for the new SMC Ultra card. Does anyone know if this
> is fully compatible with the current card - do we need a driver update?
Yes, you need a new driver.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: c1126770@comp.hkbc.hk (Chow Wing Siu)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Hardware help for NS/I PLEASE!!
Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 12 Aug 1993 01:09:59 GMT
Organization: HONG KONG BAPTIST COLLEGE
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <24c597$a1c@ctsc.hkbc.hk>
References: <246aaa$rv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Varun Mitroo (mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: CD-Rom:
: Does the CD-ROM have to be a SCSI device? If not, can you still boot from a
: CD-ROM connected through an IDE controller? Anybody have any experience with
: multi-session CD-ROMs? Any advantage to buying one of these for a NeXTstep
: system?
: SCSI Controller:
: Anybody with experience with the choices supported have any recommendations?
Please email to me if anyone has answer.
Chow Wing Siu
c1126770@comp.hkbc.hk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu (Doug Boyce)
Subject: WANTED: Beta tester for ethercard driver
Message-ID: <CBLIzp.4nG@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: University at Buffalo
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 13:04:36 GMT
I have somewhat successfully ported a Linux driver for NE2000, NE1000,
D-Link, and Cabletron compatible ethernet cards to the NeXT via the much
touted DriverKit. Our current in-house test card is a EN-2000 so I can't
personally test the other configurations. And since our current network is
a single NeXT machine and a NOVELL network (cringe) I have a very narrow
test base.
So if you are brave drop me a line.
Doug Boyce
courtesy of Advance 2000, Inc.
--
Doug Boyce dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: twinhead/compudyne notebooks
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 13:49:16 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.134916.5537@julian.uwo.ca>
Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
I've been looking at the twinhead notebook computers. they have a
486DX/66 that screams.
the only hitch i see in putting NeXTstep on it is that the only way to
attach a scsi CD-ROM is via a Trantor MiniSCSI.
is this a supported way of getting the OS onto the machine?
thanks.
--
Lance R. Bailey System/Network Manager Robarts Research Institute
NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
fax: +1 519 663 3789 P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108 London, Canada N6A 5K8
Duct tape is the force:a dark side,a white side, & holding the universe
together
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: Dell system configuration
Message-ID: <CBKx99.2v9@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Summary: ATI GUP *doesn't work* in Dell unless latest BIOS/ROMs & use DPT SCSI
Keywords: Dell, SCSI, ATI GUP, solution
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <1993Aug10.141933.1@hei.unige.ch>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 05:15:09 GMT
I tried for a long time to get a configuration similar to yours to work.
In the end, it turned out that the ATI GUP simply won't work with an
Adaptec style (original or clone) SCSI controller. I received help from
NeXT Tech support. They say:
-----
Subject: Installing a ATI UltraPro (EISA) card in a Dell ME
There are two problems with using a ATI UltraPro EISA card in a Dell ME
systems. A fixable problem where the system hangs during reboot, and a
incompatibility problem between the ATI card and the Adaptec host adapter.
The first problem is the system will hang after a reboot and you will have to
press the reset button to continue. This problem can be fixed by one of two
options (or both).
1. Update the bios on the Dell to version A04 (the version is displayed in the
startup messages). Dell will send you a floppy that will update the flash bios.
This takes about 5 minutes and is easy to do. This is the preferred method.
To get the latest upgrade revision, call Dell Tech Support @ 800/624-9896.
2. Get new ROMs from ATI. Update from version 112-19100-100 to version
112-19100-101. There are two chips (112-19100-100 and 112-19101-100) labeled
odd and even. Both need to be updated to the -101 version. You can get these
new proms from ATI. Their support number is (416) 756-0711.
The second problem is an incompatibility between the Adaptec (1542B and 1542C)
scsi host adapters and the ATI UltraPro when used in the Dell ME system. You
may see an error messages from the Adaptec card when you boot up and your hard
disk may be trashed. Here are the messages you will see:
AHA interrupt: bad status ff
sd0: INVALID STATUS (Internal error): FATAL ERROR
target:0 lin 0:op: Read block:123248 blockcount:4
I called Adaptec but they know nothing about this problem.
Everything works fine when using a DPT scsi card.
The bottom line is the ATI card will work in a DELL ME system if you get one
or both of the two fixes listed above for the reboot problem, and use a DPT
SCSI card.
(NeXT Technical Support)
--------
I hope this saves you the grief I suffered!!
david
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From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Subject: NS/FI on Ambra boxes
Message-ID: <CBLMt9.8Kp@imag.fr>
Sender: news@imag.fr (Administration des news)
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 14:27:09 GMT
Did anyone try to install NS/Fi on one of those 486SLC2 based Ambra
boxes?. (the SLC2 is a 486 manufactured by IBM, it has no fpu but
16 k of internal cache). I know NS can't run without fpu, but i've
been told you could insert a 80387 inside without problem. Does anyone
know WHY NS needs absolutely the FPU (a normal Unix box can do without
fpu and won't lose performance).
Thanks.
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From: royce@splunge.uucp (Royce Howland)
Subject: Re: Formatting a floppy in NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Aug9.205422.750@splunge.uucp>
Keywords: Floppies, Initialization
Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood
References: <CBDKH3.LrJ@well.sf.ca.us> <1993Aug7.151643.7920@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 20:54:22 GMT
wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu () writes:
>In article <CBDKH3.LrJ@well.sf.ca.us> ludwig@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Rutchik) writes:
>>
>>I am experiencing strange behaviour with the floppy drive in my NS PC
>>clone.I have been able to use the drive to install NextStep and several 3rd
>>partyapps. I can also read from and write to Mac disks without any
>>problems.However I have been unable to initialize a floppy in any format.
>>Afternumerous attempts I usually get a message in the console saying "should
>>be48,0. found 0,0. errors." Is this a bug in 3.1 or might I have a
>>bustedfloppy drive?
>Well, I unfortunately don't have an answer to your problem - but I can say
>that I've had just the same problem. Worse even, maybe. When I try to
>initialize a diskette, if the system is feeling sympathetic, it will just
>fail with a bunch of errors. If not, it does things such as hang my machine
>or even reboot the computer. If anyone else knows the origin of this problem
>it would be great to hear about it. I'm getting sick of trying to fix
>trashed filesystems from all the resulting crashes. I have been assuming
>that it is a result of my cheapo IDE controller (one of those $15 2H2F2SPG
>deals), and am waiting to borrow a good one from a friend. I'll let you
>know what this turns up - but until then I thought I'd at least let you know
>that you aren't the only one with this very frustrating problem.
I had a lot of problems like the above while evaluating NEXTSTEP PR1
(beta). However, since moving up to the production release, I have not
had a floppy disk glitch. The hardware I'm using is all stuff off the
compatibility list, e.g. Compaq DeskPro, Epson Progression NX, Intel GX,
Dell 466/L, etc. Just now I tried formatting a cheap, generic HD disk
as DOS, Mac and NeXT. I used an Epson Progression NX, and all three
formats seemd to work fine.
I would suggest that in the short term, cheap (not just "inexpensive")
hardware may well be at the root of the above problems. This can
possibly be worked around in the floppy drivers, though, and so we
can hope for these problems to decrease over time. So you can either
try getting better floppy controllers now (I guess it's also possibly
the fault of the disk drives themselves), or wait for the 3.2 upgrade
which may or may not fix things.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: droux@hei.unige.ch
Subject: Canon BJC-880 and NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.182935.1@hei.unige.ch>
Sender: usenet@news.unige.ch
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 16:29:35 GMT
I'm actually looking for a color printer to be connected to a PC
running NS/FIP. The Canon BJC-880 seems to be a good choice and
seems to be a postscript printer and thus supported by NEXTSTEP.
Is it true ?
Nicolas Droux
droux@info.isbiel.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Upgrade '030 Cube to NS 3.1?
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.123148.19427@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
From: mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (Michael Jones)
Date: 11 Aug 93 12:31:47 -0500
I have 8 original '030 NeXT Cubes I would like to upgrade from NS 2.0 to
NS 3.1. However, these machines only have the Optical read write drives
in them, and I am told a CD-Rom drive cannot be hooked up to them without
a hardware upgrade.
So I have two questions:
1) is there any way to hook up a CD-ROM to these the way they are?
2) Can the 3.1 distribution fit on a 256 meg optical disk if I copied it
using a machine with a CD-ROM? (also, can the development rom be copied
onto another one?).
Any suggestions on how I could get a 3.1 upgrade insatalled on these would
be greatly appreciated. Looking for minimal costs above the upgrade cost.
*** Please email replies.
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From: mark@dtl.tamu.edu (Mark Doucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Touch Screen for NeXT
Date: 11 Aug 1993 17:02:20 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <24b8ms$727@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Does anyone know of a touch srcreen product that will work with NEXTSTEP
on either the black or white hardware?
Thanks in advance
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dirk@incom.de (Dirk Koeppen)
Subject: Re: Do NOT use 3c509 card with NS/FIP!
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.163231.13056@dksoft.incom.de>
Sender: news@dksoft.incom.de (Owner of the news stuff)
Organization: Dirk Koeppen EDV-Beratung, D-63073 Offenbach, Germany
References: <23ua4rINNa34@cbl.umd.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 16:32:31 GMT
Jonathan Kruger writes
> As it turns out, the 3c509 is NOT designed to work in UNIX PC's. I
>
The 3C509 has only 2K buffer, if the CPU is not fast enough to empty
the buffer you'll loose packages. This appears on 8K NFS framented
writes if the system is loaded.
I found that the new SMC EtherCard Ultra is the best card.
It has a 16K fast RAM buffer, is compatible to the Elite (on NeXTstep the PC
must be rebooted by RESET in order to find the card) and supports parallel
tasking which is probable not supported by the current Elite drivers.
ciao,
dirk
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From: dagerk@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jim Gerken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Diamond ViperVLB Supported???
Date: 11 Aug 1993 17:01:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Message-ID: <24b8kv$66l@hub.ucsb.edu>
Summary: Diamond Tech Support says Viper supports NeXTSTEP???
Keywords: NeXTSTEP Viper Weitek P9000
The July PC Magazine is running a series on the "Perfect PC".
Unfotunately they forgot to base it on a real OS.... but they
did provide Tech Support numbers for a lot of component manu-
facturers. So I started looking into my idea of the "Perfect
PC" based on NS/I.
Lo and Behold when I called Diamond Computer Systems Tech
Support ( 408-736-2000) and asked "Does the VIPER VLB support
NeXTSTEP?" I get a "Yes." And it wasn't just a yes, it was
a "Well Duh, everybody knows that" yes. So I ask a couple
more questions like "That's the Weitek P9000 card?" and
"You mean for NeXTSTEP for Intel?" and I keep getting that
same yes....
Did I get a completely ignorant sales/tech person?
Is this the world's second best kept secret?
Has anyone else heard/tried this?
Jim Gerken
gerken@rdl.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: milov@uwlax.edu (Milo Velimirovic)
Subject: Experience with Conner CP31370 SCSI disks?
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.155038.10800@purelogic.cs.uwlax.edu>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: usenet@purelogic.cs.uwlax.edu (News Poster)
Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 15:50:38 GMT
Does anyone have any experience (good, bad or indifferent) with Conner
CP31370 SCSI disks using NSFIP?
Our proposed configuration includes:
Dell 4066/XE (i486 66MHz EISA), 24MB
DPT 2012 with a DEC DSP 3105 1.05Gb drive, HP 4mm DAT, Sony CD-ROM
Intel Ether express
Please respond via e-mail, I'll summarize and post a followup.
-- Milo
Milo Velimirovic -- milov@uwlax.edu
Unix Computer Network Administrator
University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bau@cs.cornell.edu (David Bau)
Subject: TO NeXT: When Can We Expect Support For Other Graphics Cards?
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.172352.8523@cs.cornell.edu>
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 17:23:52 GMT
I've bought my copy of NEXTSTEP/FIP, but I can't use it yet: I'm waiting
for my hardware!
There is a current scarcity of ATI Graphics Ultra PRO VLB 2MB cards
that is so bad that I may have to wait seven weeks before I can get
one. (I have ordered one bundled with my system through Gateway.)
However, there are dozens of other (and superior) graphics cards
on the market that I could get right away. The graphics card is such
a minor fraction of the whole system that I hate to wait so long for
it to arrive. My question to NeXT and the in-the-know subset of the
net community:
Are new graphics drivers going to be avaliable any time soon? (i.e.,
in the next seven weeks) I'm sure there are plenty of people who
would be delighted to use them right away. My own vote goes for a
driver for the Diamond Viper VLB card.
I would have nothing against using a beta version of a driver until a
production quality driver comes out. I'm sure many people feel the
same way.
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bau@cs.cornell.edu (David Bau)
Subject: Market Penetration: one small data point.
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.173036.8930@cs.cornell.edu>
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
References: <1993Aug11.172352.8523@cs.cornell.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 17:30:36 GMT
How well is NEXTSTEP on Intel doing?
According to my Gateway saleman, about one sales call per day asks
about systems that can run NEXTSTEP/FIP. He says that accounts for
about 3 or 4% of the units he sells right now. Many of these people
are corporate accounts who want to do development in NEXTSTEP.
Most of the others are individuals who want to have the *option* to
try out and use NEXTSTEP as well as other operating systems.
Just thought it was interesting (and positive), but it was just
the opinion of one salesman of one vendor.
David
From: kaelin@Bridge.COM (Kaelin Colclasure)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Disable second floppy???
Message-ID: <1676@racerx.bridge.COM>
Date: 11 Aug 93 17:45:30 GMT
Sender: kaelin@racerx.bridge.COM
Organization: Bridge Information Systems
After successfully installing NeXTSTEP on my no-name 486 clone, I noticed
a paragraph in the release notes saying that systems with dual floppies
must disable the second drive in order to run NeXTSTEP.
Is there a reason to do this that I just haven't encountered yet, or is it
merely a poorly phrased admonition that the second drive cannot be accessed
from NeXTSTEP? My system has been up and in use for several days with
no visible ill effects...
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From: eric_t@larch.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille)
Subject: Re: TO NeXT: When Can We Expect Support For Other Graphics Cards?
Message-ID: <CBLwtv.E4A@cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
References: <1993Aug11.172352.8523@cs.cornell.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 18:03:31 GMT
In article <1993Aug11.172352.8523@cs.cornell.edu> bau@cs.cornell.edu (David
Bau) writes:
> I've bought my copy of NEXTSTEP/FIP, but I can't use it yet: I'm waiting
> for my hardware!
>
> There is a current scarcity of ATI Graphics Ultra PRO VLB 2MB cards
> that is so bad that I may have to wait seven weeks before I can get
> one. (I have ordered one bundled with my system through Gateway.)
> However, there are dozens of other (and superior) graphics cards
> on the market that I could get right away. The graphics card is such
> a minor fraction of the whole system that I hate to wait so long for
> it to arrive. My question to NeXT and the in-the-know subset of the
> net community:
>
> Are new graphics drivers going to be avaliable any time soon? (i.e.,
> in the next seven weeks) I'm sure there are plenty of people who
> would be delighted to use them right away. My own vote goes for a
> driver for the Diamond Viper VLB card.
>
> I would have nothing against using a beta version of a driver until a
> production quality driver comes out. I'm sure many people feel the
> same way.
>
> David
--
The same for me ! The Dimond Viper VLB seems one of the hottest graphic vlb
card... and NEXTSTEP like that ! Micron Computers seems very well optimized PC
and use this card. If the driver for this card would have been ready, I would
have allready bought one of Micron Computer 486. BTW, I'm sur that some are
waiting for a 24/32 bit color card in 1280*1024... no ?
Cheers,
- Eric
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From: sanchezp@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dell DGX configuration
Date: 11 Aug 1993 19:12:44 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SANCHEZP.93Aug11121244@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
I'm setting up a Dell DG/X system for my wife, but her monitor is
back-ordered. Meanwhile I've got a VGA monitor connected. The
NeXTAnswers file for Dell says:
The Dell DG/X provides 1120 x 832 in 16 bit color under NEXTSTEP.
NEXTSTEP also supports SVGA on the Dell DG/X at 1024 x 768.
Does anyone know what to set to actually achieve the SVGA resolution
with Configure? The "Default VGA" setting is lo-res.
Thanks for any help.
--paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: canau@june.fct.unl.pt (Carlos Canau)
Subject: FloppyDrive and DOS disks
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.091618.6685@fct.unl.pt>
Sender: news@fct.unl.pt (USENET News System)
Organization: Universidade Nova de Lisboa, PORTUGAL
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 09:16:18 GMT
Hi!
In every NeXT machine that I use (four or five, NS2.0 and NS3.0) this
problem allways happens. When I copy files to DOS disks and I try to read
the disks on DOS machines, the format information is lost more or less
randomly on the middle of the disk. Formating the disk in DOS after the
problem works fine.
I've tried tar, dd and even mtools allways with the same result. The only
time that I had some success was when I used BuildDOS to format the disk
and then copy files to the disk. Some copies later the disks show the same
problem.
Has this happened with anybody else ? To me it seems very weird...
by(e) canau
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: NXBench wanted.
Message-ID: <CBM08D.4wt@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 19:17:01 GMT
Could someone please mail me a copy of NXBench?
Both NeXTMail and uuencoded tarfiles are OK.
We are accepting deliver of hardware that has never run
NEXTSTEP before and (if it loads) want to provide benchmarks
and installation howto's for the new hardware (AIR EISA/VESA
from Zenon).
Sorry to waste the band-width on this, but we are in a bind.
We will not be able to ftp for the next few months (company moving)
and will have only uunet until then.
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From: kafka@cats.ucsc.edu (Gary Andrew Yuen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: TO NeXT: When Can We Expect Support For Other Graphics Cards?
Date: 11 Aug 1993 20:12:58 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <24bjsaINNkim@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <1993Aug11.172352.8523@cs.cornell.edu>
>Are new graphics drivers going to be avaliable any time soon? (i.e.,
>in the next seven weeks) I'm sure there are plenty of people who
>would be delighted to use them right away. My own vote goes for a
>driver for the Diamond Viper VLB card.
>
>I would have nothing against using a beta version of a driver until a
>production quality driver comes out. I'm sure many people feel the
>same way.
S3 928 drivers should be available by the end of August. You can call
up NeXT and ask. They have a schedule listing when certain drivers will
be available. Also, the new Hardware Compatability List lists S3 928 in
there.
Now I just need UltraStor 34F drivers and I'm set.
Gary
kafka@cats.ucsc.edu
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ISA vs. EISA and NextStep
Date: 11 Aug 1993 20:25:17 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Message-ID: <24bkjd$1u6@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <1993Aug10.155407.7570@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> <1993Aug11.053847.4470@BlueRose.com>
Let me add to the confusion: NS requires that the EISA DPT card is set
to run at 5MB/sec (at the 10MB/sec, it becomes unstable; at least
here, and I was told by NeXT to run at 5MB/s).
As far as I understand, ISA handles 5MB/sec just fine. Doesn't this
imply that we can expect EISA to be of help only if NS/FIP could run
reliably with faster SCSI at 10MB/sec?
/ivo welch
PS: Incidentally, I am having infinite trouble with more than 3
devices hanging off the DPT card (and all 2-3' cables). This SCSI just
isn't stable enough. My next try is a "forced perfect" terminator to
see if it helps (see comp.periphs.scsi for a recent discussion).
In article <1993Aug11.053847.4470@BlueRose.com> m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes:
>In article <1993Aug10.155407.7570@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> carr@frabits
>(Curt Carr) writes:
>> I have heard that NS 3.1 for the 486 systems does not take advantage
>> of the 32 bit data path EISA supports and therefore there is no current
>> advantage to get EISA over ISA. Is this true?
>
>No. Did you hear it from a Microsoft employee?
>
>M Carling
>President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Ethernet IP problems. Fixed?
Date: 11 Aug 1993 20:29:24 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Message-ID: <24bkr4$1ue@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I cannot rdump reliably to another tape or ftp on my NS/FIP (SMC).
After many megabytes of transfer, it just stops. A number of other
people also noted this 1-2 months back. Has it been fixed? Is there a
patch? This is obviously a major problem.
Also, the first time I tried the new FIP SCSI tape driver on my
WangDAT (device is /dev/rxt0), the system just rebooted instantly. Has
anyone been using a WangDAT on a NS/FIP?
/ivo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ddaniel@power-drill.media.mit.edu (Daniel Bromberg)
Subject: Re: TO NeXT: When Can We Expect Support For Other Graphics Cards?
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.192451.25650@news.media.mit.edu>
Keywords: graphics video card support driver drivers diamond viper
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
References: <CBLwtv.E4A@cs.uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 19:24:51 GMT
In article <CBLwtv.E4A@cs.uiuc.edu> eric_t@larch.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric
de_la_Tribouille) writes:
> In article <1993Aug11.172352.8523@cs.cornell.edu> bau@cs.cornell.edu
(David
> Bau) writes:
> > I've bought my copy of NEXTSTEP/FIP, but I can't use it yet: I'm
waiting
> > for my hardware!
> >
> > There is a current scarcity of ATI Graphics Ultra PRO VLB 2MB cards
> > that is so bad that I may have to wait seven weeks before I can get
> > one. (I have ordered one bundled with my system through Gateway.)
> > However, there are dozens of other (and superior) graphics cards
> > on the market that I could get right away. The graphics card is such
> > a minor fraction of the whole system that I hate to wait so long for
> > it to arrive. My question to NeXT and the in-the-know subset of the
> > net community:
> >
> > Are new graphics drivers going to be avaliable any time soon? (i.e.,
> > in the next seven weeks) I'm sure there are plenty of people who
> > would be delighted to use them right away. My own vote goes for a
> > driver for the Diamond Viper VLB card.
> >
I recently called NeXTSTEP (1-800-TRY-NEXT) (as I'm sure we all know) and
was informed that they have received many requests for the Diamond Viper
card and it is currently in testing. It and more third-party products will
be supported in Release 3.2. I'm just waiting for that, so various
wrinkles such as a scarcity of video choices and other bugs can be worked
out. So in the next seven weeks? No. Probably about twelve. It's worth the
wait for me. Hopefully a Driver Library will develop over time where the
user just selects from a list and boom, it works.
Daniel Bromberg
ddaniel@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen)
Subject: NSFIP For Pentium?
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.210057.1057@glv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@glv.uucp
Organization: Encompass
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 21:00:57 GMT
Has anyone gotten NS to run on a Pentium box? What kind of performance does
it have?
--
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From: andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen)
Subject: NSFIP Com Port ?
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.210226.1122@glv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@glv.uucp
Organization: Encompass
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 21:02:26 GMT
How do you get access to the com ports? I have a modem connected to com3 and
want to see if I an dial out.
--
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Encompass 113 Edinburgh South Suite 200
Cary, NC 27511
919-460-3285 Voice 919-460-3295 Fax
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Projection system problems
Date: 11 Aug 1993 22:03:14 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Message-ID: <24bqb3INNmmd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
We've got a pressing problem trying to set up a projection system to work with
a NeXTstation Color. The symptom is that the projected display shudders so
badly when anything changes (cursor movement, typing, etc.) that it's basically
unviewable.
The projector apparently is one that NeXT has said should work. We use an
Extron video signal splitter with one leg connected to the NeXT monitor and the
other, to the projector. The monitor works normally. The projector reports a
horizontal sync rate of 61 Hz which seems low to me and a vertical sync rate of
68 Hz.
If anyone has a quick suggestion (the demo is at 8:00 AM CDT on Thursday),
please send email to art@cubicsol.com.
Thanks
--
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NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <24bqb3INNmmd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Control: cancel <24bqb3INNmmd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Date: 11 Aug 1993 23:24:35 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Message-ID: <24bv3jINNo3h@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <24bqb3INNmmd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
<24bqb3INNmmd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> was cancelled from within rn.
--
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NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Projection system problems
Date: 11 Aug 1993 23:26:32 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Message-ID: <24bv78INNo7g@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <24bqb3INNmmd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Our projector problem has been solved. The A/V guys connected the black sync
outlet on the Extron to the projector which apparently isn't kosher for NeXT
systems. Life is again good...
--
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NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: blum@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Blum)
Subject: RN
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.232439.17476@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
References: <1993Aug11.210057.1057@glv.uucp>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 93 23:24:39 GMT
I wanted to get a hold of rn news tool for my NeXTStation so that I can
read news from my home using a slow modem. I was wondering if there was
anybody that knew how to get a hold of either the source code or the
binary for a NeXT machine.
Steve Blum
blum@eggplant.stanford.edu
NeXTmail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tfang@netcom.com (Tanming Fang)
Subject: Can I remove the cap in a memory chip?
Message-ID: <tfangCBMBJ6.K5A@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 23:21:05 GMT
Sorry if this question has been asked here before.
I found two 72-pin 70ns 36-bit memory chips, but I couldn't get them
to fit into the memory slots of my 25Mhz Station Color because the
chips have two little capacitors on the right side edge. Some one
said there were there only for filtering out power line noise, and
could be removed.
Since my machine only needed 80ns memory chips, I hoped the extra
10ns margin could compensate for the extra noise. Or I was mixing
speed margin and noise margin up?
Bottom line: Can I remove the capacitors?
My NeXT will thank you for any help,
Tanming Fang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Subject: Is the ATI Ultra Pro VL-Vus dead?
Message-ID: <CBMFID.EJz@news.otago.ac.nz>
Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff)
Organization: University of Otago
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 00:47:00 GMT
Hi,
I was just talking to my hardware supplier, and he indicated that ATI
will not be re-starting manufacturing of the VL-Bus ATI GUP. He said
that they were putting their investment into PC-MCI(???) cards. Has
anyone heard anything about this? What is PC-MCI?
Alastair
--
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Programmer, | Fax +64-3-479-8529
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University of Otago, Dunedin |
New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@adobe.com
Subject: Re: Dell DGX configuration
Message-ID: <1993Aug12.010212.11290@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <SANCHEZP.93Aug11121244@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 01:02:12 GMT
In article <SANCHEZP.93Aug11121244@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
sanchezp@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) writes:
> I'm setting up a Dell DG/X system for my wife, but her monitor is
> back-ordered. Meanwhile I've got a VGA monitor connected. The
> NeXTAnswers file for Dell says:
>
> The Dell DG/X provides 1120 x 832 in 16 bit color under NEXTSTEP.
> NEXTSTEP also supports SVGA on the Dell DG/X at 1024 x 768.
>
> Does anyone know what to set to actually achieve the SVGA resolution
> with Configure? The "Default VGA" setting is lo-res.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> --paul
The Dell DG/X actually has two completely seperate display controllers in it -
the JAWS and an ET4000. You'll notice that there are two place to plug in
monitors. To use your Dell in 1024x768 2 bit gray, use Configure.app to
configure the ET4000 driver. When you get your new monitor, use Configure.app
again to replace the ET4000 driver with the JAWS driver.
Joe Pasqua
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dirk@incom.de (Dirk Koeppen)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP ethernet hardware
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.224218.14937@dksoft.incom.de>
Sender: news@dksoft.incom.de (Owner of the news stuff)
Organization: Dirk Koeppen EDV-Beratung, D-63073 Offenbach, Germany
References: <1993Aug11.054345.4530@BlueRose.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 22:42:18 GMT
M Carling writes
> In article <bchin.744955862@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill
> Chin) writes:
> > Also, I saw an ad for the new SMC Ultra card. Does anyone know if this
> > is fully compatible with the current card - do we need a driver update?
>
> Yes, you need a new driver.
>
> M Carling
> President, Bay Area NeXT Group
NO !
I have it working very well over here. You just must reboot the
PC via RESET. Otherwise the driver does not find the card it's
because the 16 bit memory access switch of the NS8390 Ethernet
chip which must be reset.
The Ultra is faster than the Elite, hopefully they change
drivers to support the parallel-tasking feature of the Ultra.
ciao,
dirk
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Phone: +49 69 89 3000 * FAX: +49 69 89 3004 * email: dirk@incom.de
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP ethernet hardware
Date: 12 Aug 1993 03:20:17 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <24ccthINNodn@cbl.umd.edu>
References: <bchin.744955862@news.andi.org>
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>I've installed NS/FIP on a Lucky Goldstar Logisys machine. Nice. Fast.
>However, I could not get the Intel EtherExpress TP card to work... we've had
>an Intel with coax work flawlessly for months now in an Epson, but the TP
>version doesn't see the network. Pop in an SMC Elite TP, and all is fine, albiet
>a little slow.
>Looking through the new August Hardware Compatibility Guide from NeXT, the
>chart says "Support of TP port requires a driver update." Does anyone know
>when this driver will come out? At NWE, we used a bunch of older
>Intel EtherExpress TP's (with the LED's stacked vertically, instead of
>horizontally). If the driver isn't available soon, does anyone know where
>we can get our hands on the older rev?
>Also, I saw an ad for the new SMC Ultra card. Does anyone know if this
>is fully compatible with the current card - do we need a driver update?
>People have said before that the reason that the current SMC is slow is
>because of it small buffer (2 or 4 kbytes). This new card has 16k and
>some "simultasking" mumbo jumbo.
The current WD8013EPT (was EBT) already has 16KB. The idea behind
these new 'parallel/multitasking' ethernet cards is that they don't
need as much memory because they can start packet processing before
the entire packet is even received, so the host knows sooner and can
start doing I/O sooner and in parallel with the rest of the packet
transmission.
I think the jury may be out on this with respect to multitasking
OS's like UNIX because I beleive this means the card needs servicing
more often by the host CPU. For MSDOS this is fine, nothing else
is (ever :-]) going on. Indeed the 3C509 is lightening fast compared
to just about all the other 16bit ISA cards for DOS, but performance
in NeXTstep/FIP is abysmal and buggy. However, BSDI's BSD/386 UNIX
works VERY well with the 3C509, someone put a lot of time into
that driver. But again, I think it eats a lot of CPU. So, for
server applications perhaps a larger shared memory buffer is better.
Any comments?
>Thanks in advance for any info!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: What is the serial port problem?
Message-ID: <rorCBMqBz.82B@netcom.com>
Summary: Serial I/O problem with NeXTSTEP/FIP 3.1
Keywords: Serial Port
Organization: Pigdog Journal
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 04:40:47 GMT
What exactly is the problem with the serial ports with NeXTSTEP/FIP? I
mean, can one at least hook up a 14.4 modem and use a terminal program to
call out?
--
ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NS/FI on Ambra boxes
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.182620.6192@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <CBLMt9.8Kp@imag.fr>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 18:26:20 GMT
In article <CBLMt9.8Kp@imag.fr> oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
> Did anyone try to install NS/Fi on one of those 486SLC2 based
Ambra
> boxes?. (the SLC2 is a 486 manufactured by IBM, it has no fpu but
> 16 k of internal cache). I know NS can't run without fpu, but i've
> been told you could insert a 80387 inside without problem. Does
anyone
> know WHY NS needs absolutely the FPU (a normal Unix box can do
without
> fpu and won't lose performance).
Display Postscript.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Upgrade '030 Cube to NS 3.1?
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.222225.6693@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug11.123148.19427@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 22:22:25 GMT
In article <1993Aug11.123148.19427@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> writes:
> I have 8 original '030 NeXT Cubes I would like to upgrade from NS 2.0 to
> NS 3.1. However, these machines only have the Optical read write drives
> in them, and I am told a CD-Rom drive cannot be hooked up to them
without
> a hardware upgrade.
>
> So I have two questions:
> 1) is there any way to hook up a CD-ROM to these the way they are?
> 2) Can the 3.1 distribution fit on a 256 meg optical disk if I copied it
> using a machine with a CD-ROM? (also, can the development rom be copied
> onto another one?).
To do it directly, you need an OD which is configured to boot the CD-ROM.
I once borrowed one from someone at NeXT. The better way is to use
BuildDisk on another machine to build (fresh from CD-ROM) 3.1 onto an OD,
and then use that OD to BuildDisk your 030s. If you omit the
Literature.pkg and the languages, it should fit onto an OD.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: TO NeXT: When Can We Expect Support For Other Graphics Cards?
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.223529.6779@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug11.172352.8523@cs.cornell.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 22:35:29 GMT
In article <1993Aug11.172352.8523@cs.cornell.edu> bau@cs.cornell.edu
(David Bau) writes:
> Are new graphics drivers going to be avaliable any time soon? (i.e.,
> in the next seven weeks)
Yes.
> My own vote goes for a driver for the Diamond Viper VLB card.
That one won't happen in the next seven weeks.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Diamond ViperVLB Supported???
Message-ID: <1993Aug11.224025.6838@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <24b8kv$66l@hub.ucsb.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 22:40:25 GMT
In article <24b8kv$66l@hub.ucsb.edu> dagerk@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jim Gerken)
writes:
>
> The July PC Magazine is running a series on the "Perfect PC".
> Unfotunately they forgot to base it on a real OS.... but they
> did provide Tech Support numbers for a lot of component manu-
> facturers. So I started looking into my idea of the "Perfect
> PC" based on NS/I.
>
> Lo and Behold when I called Diamond Computer Systems Tech
> Support ( 408-736-2000) and asked "Does the VIPER VLB support
> NeXTSTEP?" I get a "Yes." And it wasn't just a yes, it was
> a "Well Duh, everybody knows that" yes. So I ask a couple
> more questions like "That's the Weitek P9000 card?" and
> "You mean for NeXTSTEP for Intel?" and I keep getting that
> same yes....
>
> Did I get a completely ignorant sales/tech person?
Yes, completely. I was over at NeXT when one a Diamond Viper card arrived
for NeXT to begin evaluating the possibility of doing a driver. I won't
say when that was, but it was not long enough ago for a driver to be
available now and probably not anytime before 3.2.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NSFIP For Pentium?
Message-ID: <1993Aug12.032207.7544@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug11.210057.1057@glv.uucp>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 03:22:07 GMT
In article <1993Aug11.210057.1057@glv.uucp> andersen@reality.glv.com
(Robert Andersen) writes:
> Has anyone gotten NS to run on a Pentium box? What kind of
> performance does it have?
See the September issue of NeXTWorld.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: NS problem or monitor problem?
Message-ID: <1993Aug12.043929.14121@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 04:39:29 GMT
I just bought an NEC 6FG monitor to use with an Intel GX system. The
monitor specs indicate support for 1024 x 768 at 76 hz. However, when I
tried the 76 hz setting in Configure.app, the monitor had very noticeable
patterns (1/4" concentric circles on both sides of the display.) I reset
to 72 hz and the display looked OK. I don't necessarily need to run it at
76 hz, but I am curious as to whether these patterns are attributable to
software problems or hardware problems.
I always thought the NeXT 21" Hitachi monitor was a killer to lift or
move. The NEC 6FG makes it look like a lightweight! The shipping weight
was 100 lbs. According to Intel, the case can support up to 90 lbs, so I
guess that means a change in my plans for arranging the computer. Does
anyone know of a heavy-duty low-rise monitor support stand that could
possibly straddle the Intel so that I could still have the monitor above
it instead of putting it off to one side?
From: k0s8160@chenext1.tamu.edu (Kenji Seto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: system panic when dumping to an Archive DAT
Date: 12 Aug 1993 12:08:59 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <24dbsr$epu@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1993Aug11.045033.1325@stst.com>
In article <1993Aug11.045033.1325@stst.com> james@stst.com (James St.Clair)
writes:
> We have an Archive Python DAT(no HW compression).It has been used
> successfully to perform a level 0 dump of a color NeXTstation.
>
> The exact error message we receive on the system panic is as follows:
>
> panic:(Cpu 0) dma_list: zero pfnum
> NeXT ROM Monitor 3.0 v70
> panic: NeXT Mach 3.0: date and so forth
>
I have an Exabyte DAT drive, and I use gnutar to perform my
backups, and about 50% of the time, I experience the same thing.
From my experience, it seems that 1 reboot is all that is needed
to get past this problem. I feel that I can either reboot it
before I start the backup, or wait til the back up panics the
machine, and then reboot and restart my backup.
It is interesting to note that I did not always have this problem.
It only started when I added another disk to my scsi chain. I am
beginning to wonder if I should have re-formatted that disk as it
still has a boot block on it, and it isn't being used as a boot disk.
The existence of that boot block is the ONLY difference that I
see between that disk, and the other disks in my chain.
FYI, my gnutar not only catches parts of the 3 local disks on my server,
but also many NFS mounted directories.
From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is the ATI Ultra Pro VL-Vus dead?
Date: 12 Aug 1993 13:51:26 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <24dhsu$r9b@nic.umass.edu>
References: <CBMFID.EJz@news.otago.ac.nz>
Alastair Thomson (alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz) wrote:
: Hi,
: I was just talking to my hardware supplier, and he indicated that ATI
: will not be re-starting manufacturing of the VL-Bus ATI GUP. He said
: that they were putting their investment into PC-MCI(???) cards. Has
: anyone heard anything about this? What is PC-MCI?
I assume he meant PCI cards... PCI is Intel's local-bus specification, and
yes ATI is strongly committed to PCI; however, I believe your supplier was
mistaken. ATI has recently begun shipping a new version of the Mach32, so
maybe your supplier meant that the old Mach32 (the one most stores are still
selling) will not be going out for another production run (which I believe is
true). The new Mach32 is available on a VL-bus card...I believe gateway is
already selling it.
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: Dell system configuration
Message-ID: <CBM1EG.6D@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <1993Aug10.141933.1@hei.unige.ch> <248sn0$fo1@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 19:42:16 GMT
In article <248sn0$fo1@beta.qmw.ac.uk> j.hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1993Aug10.141933.1@hei.unige.ch> droux@hei.unige.ch writes:
>>
>> I'm planning to buy soon a PC to run NEXTSTEP with the following
>> configuration. Will this system works with NS/FIP ? Does somebody
>> have some comment, suggestion or warnings ?
>>
>> Dell System 466/ME (80486 DX2-66)
>> etc.
>
>I'm not sure which EISA SCSI interface Dell supply but there are a very
>limited number supported by NEXTSTEP 3.1 for Intel. They are:
>
> Bus Logic 747S
> DPT 2012/90
> DPT 2012/95
>
>Therefore you should definitely ask and if they don't supply any of the above,
>then go elsewhere for the card.
>
>I wouldn't imagine disabling the on-board S3 would be a problem.
>
>The Dell 466/ME is listed in the NEXTSTEP harNdware compatability guide-which
>is why we've bought one. ***HOWEVER***, we're having all sorts of trouble
>installing NEXTSTEP. See article "Dell 466/ME - Anyone succeeded ?".
>
>
>
>John Hibbitt
>Dept of Physics
>Queen Mary & Westfield College (University of London)
>Mile End Road
>London E1 4NS
>United Kingdom
>
>Email: J.Hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk (including NeXTMail)
>Tel: +44 71-975-5055
I have installed NeXTSTEP on my custom-configuration Dell 466/ME-based
system. This is the configuration I *started* with:
* Dell 466/ME (66-MHz internal/33MHz external i486 chip with Math coprocessor),
16 MB RAM, on-board floppy controller, PS/2 compatible mouse port,
on-board IDE disk controller with 1GB 2112A Micropolis drive,
& local bus VGA graphics with 1MB video RAM (but *disabled* because of
next item)
* ATI EISA bus Graphics Pro Ultra video card with 2MB Video RAM
* Nanao 530i.w Flexscan 17" monitor
* Alpha Research S425S Adaptec 5140/42 series clone SCSI controller with
on-board floppy controller disabled
* Ariel DSP56 Signal Processing Card
* Mouse Systems Corporation PC Mouse III PS/2 & Microsoft compatible mouse
* 3.5" Mitsumi D359T-3 1.44MB floppy
Attached to the SCSI Bus:
* NeXT CD-ROM Drive (Sony CDU 541)
* Pinnacle Micro PMO-650 Writable/Erasable/Removable Optical Disc drive
Initial installation did not succeed. To cut a long story short, I tried
"real Adaptec" SCSI controllers (both a 1540c and a 1542b), configured
correctly. INSTALLATION ONLY SUCCEEDED WHEN I REMOVED THE ATI GUP BOARD!
I also removed the PMO-650, and the Ariel board, as well as trying different
SCSI cables and terminators (these latter turned out to be a total red
herring, though net mythology places great store by them--the real answer is
any decent terminator (active or passive) and cable should work, and they
were not, in any case, relevant to my problems.
I received the following information from NeXT Technical Support:
---Begin Include---
Subject: Installing a ATI UltraPro (EISA) card in a Dell ME
There are two problems with using a ATI UltraPro EISA card in a Dell ME
systems. A fixable problem where the system hangs during reboot, and a
incompatibility problem between the ATI card and the Adaptec host adapter.
The first problem is the system will hang after a reboot and you will have to
press the reset button to continue. This problem can be fixed by one of two
options (or both).
1. Update the bios on the Dell to version A04 (the version is displayed in the
startup messages). Dell will send you a floppy that will update the flash bios.
This takes about 5 minutes and is easy to do. This is the preferred method. To
get the latest upgrade revision, call Dell Tech Support @ 800/624-9896.
2. Get new ROMs from ATI. Update from version 112-19100-100 to version
112-19100-101. There are two chips (112-19100-100 and 112-19101-100) labeled
odd and even. Both need to be updated to the -101 version. You can get these
new proms from ATI. Their support number is (416) 756-0711.
The second problem is an incompatibility between the Adaptec (1542B and 1542C)
scsi host adapters and the ATI UltraPro when used in the Dell ME system. You
may see an error messages from the Adaptec card when you boot up and your hard
disk may be trashed. Here are the messages you will see:
AHA interrupt: bad status ff
sd0: INVALID STATUS (Internal error): FATAL ERROR
target:0 lin 0:op: Read block:123248 blockcount:4
I called Adaptec but they know nothing about this problem.
Everything works fine when using a DPT scsi card.
The bottom line is the ATI card will work in a DELL ME system if you get one or
both of the two fixes listed above for the reboot problem, and use a DPT scsi
card.
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 93 08:33:37 -0700
---------
End of include
---------
I did get the kind of error messages noted. I also got literally hundreds
of "intr: dropped IRQ 7" messages when installing successfully. You have to
ignore them and also be patient when it looks as if the system is infintely
looping (check to see if the system is reading the CD-ROM by checking
noises/lights). You will see meaningful messages interspersed amongst the
"intr:..." messages. But, ONCE I TOOK THE ATI GUP OUT, everything went
very smoothly. I am still using the onboard local bus graphics. The
disadvantage is that I only get 800x600 resolution. The original compatibility
guide is simply incomplete in suggesting that the ATI EISA GUP will give you
1024x768. It fails to mention that you can't USE the ATI EISA GUP if
you have chosen an Adaptec SCSI controller.
It seems that if you want to use the ATI GUP with the Dell
466/ME you have to use some SCSI controller other than an Adaptec or Adaptec
compatible (the DPT controller, for example), and make sure you have the
latest ROMs and BIOS.
One piece of news--the Alpha Research S425S SCSI controller seems
identical to the Adaptec 1540/42 series, with the latest ROM update (talk to
Lance at Alpha Research (512-836-0709) if you have any doubts/problems).
I hope this summary helps others with their custom systems. I now have
a very high performance system--better than if I'd bought off-the-shelf,
ready installed. It was worth some effort. My only problem is
graphics, but then any PC system has problems with decent graphics!!
Roll on NeXTSTEP on the Power PC :^) !!
david
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From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Next Laser Printer
Date: 12 Aug 1993 15:10:12 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <24dmgk$49t@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Forgive me for asking a question I'm fairly certain I've seen on here
before, but how does one connect a Next laser printer to an Intel
machine? i.e., what type of cable do you need, is it more than just a
cable, etc.
Diana
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@adobe.com
Subject: Re: NS/FI on Ambra boxes
Message-ID: <1993Aug12.171921.20306@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <1993Aug11.182620.6192@BlueRose.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 17:19:21 GMT
In article <1993Aug11.182620.6192@BlueRose.com> m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
writes:
> In article <CBLMt9.8Kp@imag.fr> oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
> > Did anyone try to install NS/Fi on one of those 486SLC2 based
> Ambra
> > boxes?. (the SLC2 is a 486 manufactured by IBM, it has no fpu but
> > 16 k of internal cache). I know NS can't run without fpu, but i've
> > been told you could insert a 80387 inside without problem. Does
> anyone
> > know WHY NS needs absolutely the FPU (a normal Unix box can do
> without
> > fpu and won't lose performance).
>
> Display Postscript.
>
> M Carling
> President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Actually, the Appkit is a fairly heavy user of floating point in it's view
related code. Display PostScript uses floating point only when the range of
data involved requires it. Internally computation is performed in fixed point
(integer) whenever possible. The greatest use of floating point within DPS,
rasterization of characters from outlines, was completely expunged quite some
time ago. Adobe has to run PostScript interpreters on lots of systems without
floating point (printer controllers) so it is important that this work well. To
make this happens requires a very fast floating point emulator and a very low
overhead mechanism for getting to the emulator (OS traps are a very high
overhead method).
Joe Pasqua
Joe Pasqua
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dirk@incom.de (Dirk Koeppen)
Subject: ATI Ultra Pro: EEPROM settings and BW mode
Message-ID: <1993Aug12.083231.16452@dksoft.incom.de>
Sender: news@dksoft.incom.de (Owner of the news stuff)
Organization: Dirk Koeppen EDV-Beratung, D-63073 Offenbach, Germany
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 08:32:31 GMT
Hi,
I tried to use my Sun monitor on NX/FIP. It works well on DOS and
MS-Windows if I set all the parameters by the ATI INSTALL program.
The Sony monitor has a limited ability to sync.
When I then start up NX/FIP with the EEPROM settings I find that it
ignores the EEPROM and uses it's own parameters.
Is there any chance to change the monitor settings maybe by patching the
parameters into the code ?
Another questions is how to use the ATI in BW mode ? The NEXT-ANSWER #1122
states:
"In Configure.app, the 'width' and `height' parameters are the width and height
of the display in pixels. The `refresh' parameter is the refresh rate of the
monitor in Hz. The `colorspace' parameter is of the form `BW:x' where `x' is
the number of bits/pixel, or `RGB:xyz/w' where 'x', 'y', and 'z' are the number
of bits/component and `w' is the number of bits/pixel."
I have not found that this works. Anyone with better experiences ?
Thanks,
dirk
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cbsmith@ccnga.waterloo.edu
Subject: Re: Help me choose-Mac 840av or Intel box + NeXTStep for Intel
In-Reply-To: rane+@cs.cmu.edu's message of Fri, 6 Aug 1993 06:41:29 GMT
Message-ID: <CBSMITH.93Aug12140744@ccnga.waterloo.edu>
Sender: news@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waterloo, Canada.
References: <CBBrx5.EtI.3@cs.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 19:07:44 GMT
rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes) writes:
>I'm sure you are all tired of people asking for these kind
>of reccomendations, but here I am anyway :)
>
>I am pretty familiar with NeXT's and NS - I should be, I play
>unofficial administrator here at CMU's cs department for our
>NeXT machines, and I have one on loan from the dept, here in
>my apartment ( coming to you live via SLIP). I'm also fairly
>familiar with Mac's - my parents own a IIci, which I helped
>them choose.
>
>My consternation lies in the fact that I wish to get into
>rendering/animation/basic virtual reality stuff. The
>840av comes with a ton of stuff that I could really find
>useful in this regard - 24 bit color built in (well, I need
>to add a little VRAM to get 24bits, but thats trivial), a DSP,
>NTSC video IO and capture, 40 MHZ 68040, the ability to go to
>128 megs of RAM on the motherboard, and an upgrade path to the
>new PowerPC architecture when it becomes available (there are
>other things as well that I find pretty neat, but don't relate
>to graphics). For approx. $3400 I can get 8megs of RAM, 230 megs
>of drive space, 14" monitor, keybd,mouse - the basics, (through
>U of Pitt's bookstore - I just work here, I'm a student there.)
>
>I haven't really priced a similar intel configuration, though I
>imagine for one of the GX boxes, graphics card, monitor, drive and
>controller, RAM, and operating system, the price will be about
>the same - probably a little more.
>
>I realize that NSI comes with RenderMan (which is what I would use
>on the Mac) and while I like the OS, the lack of Apps and 24bit color
>on NextStep nags at me.
>
>I suppose I could go with OS/2 or Windows, but 1) yuk 2) I'd really
>rather not and 3) I wouldn't really need NeXTStep then.
1) No kidding
2) ditto
3) No, you'd still need it for when you want to use a real OS. :-)
>Is 24 bit color support on the way?
Seriously though, when I was reading BYTE's (or was it PC Magazine?)
review of UNIX OSes for Intel boxes, they described NeXTStep for Intel
as being the only UNIX package that had built in 24-bit support. So Id
say 24-bit graphics is on the way.
>Is there anything that I missed? I'm sure there is.
Yeah, Mac's rule. :-)
--Chris
--
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cbsmith@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
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(519) 885-1211x3581
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What is the serial port problem?
Date: 12 Aug 1993 19:31:01 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <24e5pl$nrn@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <rorCBMqBz.82B@netcom.com>
Keywords: Serial Port
In article <rorCBMqBz.82B@netcom.com> ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher) writes:
>What exactly is the problem with the serial ports with NeXTSTEP/FIP? I
>mean, can one at least hook up a 14.4 modem and use a terminal program to
>call out?
>--
>ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
Works for me on a Gateway 2000. Don't try to do alot of other
stuff at the same time and it will be okay. The systems tend to
hang with speeds of 19200 and above. 9600 is pretty reliable.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is the ATI Ultra Pro VL-Vus dead?
Date: 12 Aug 1993 19:39:11 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <24e68v$nth@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <CBMFID.EJz@news.otago.ac.nz> <24dhsu$r9b@nic.umass.edu>
In article <24dhsu$r9b@nic.umass.edu> fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD) writes:
>Alastair Thomson (alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz) wrote:
>: Hi,
>: I was just talking to my hardware supplier, and he indicated that ATI
>: will not be re-starting manufacturing of the VL-Bus ATI GUP. He said
>: that they were putting their investment into PC-MCI(???) cards. Has
>: anyone heard anything about this? What is PC-MCI?
>
>I assume he meant PCI cards... PCI is Intel's local-bus specification, and
>yes ATI is strongly committed to PCI; however, I believe your supplier was
>mistaken. ATI has recently begun shipping a new version of the Mach32, so
>maybe your supplier meant that the old Mach32 (the one most stores are still
>selling) will not be going out for another production run (which I believe is
>true). The new Mach32 is available on a VL-bus card...I believe gateway is
>already selling it.
>
I have the new ATI XLR board and it works fine with NeXtStEp. It looks
generally the same as the Ultra, but Gateway advertising sezz its
optimized for some multimedia stuff. Not that this is relevant to the
way Next uses the board. Its a plug and play replacement works with the
ATI Ultra Drivers for NS.
There is no speed or performance difference as measured with NXBench.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is the ATI Ultra Pro VL-Vus dead?
Date: 12 Aug 1993 19:37:19 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <24e65f$lka@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <24dhsu$r9b@nic.umass.edu>
In article <24dhsu$r9b@nic.umass.edu> fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E
FITZGERALD) writes:
#Alastair Thomson (alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz) wrote:
#: Hi,
#: I was just talking to my hardware supplier, and he indicated that ATI
#: will not be re-starting manufacturing of the VL-Bus ATI GUP. He said
#: that they were putting their investment into PC-MCI(???) cards. Has
#: anyone heard anything about this? What is PC-MCI?
#
#I assume he meant PCI cards... PCI is Intel's local-bus specification, and
#yes ATI is strongly committed to PCI; however, I believe your supplier was
#mistaken. ATI has recently begun shipping a new version of the Mach32, so
#maybe your supplier meant that the old Mach32 (the one most stores are
still
#selling) will not be going out for another production run (which I believe
is
#true). The new Mach32 is available on a VL-bus card...I believe gateway is
#already selling it.
#
#Joe Fitzgerald
#fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
The new ATI card is the ATI XLR. It replaces the ATI Ultra Pro. It is 100%
compatible with the NEXTSTEP driver for the ATI Ultra Pro (we have 30
Gateway2000 machines with the ATI XLR which work great with NEXTSTEP).
Sadly, four more machines arrived the other day and they included the
following message:
Dear Customer,
The ATI XLR video card you ordered with your system is currently
unavailable. To expedite shipment, we upgraded your system to a Diamond
VIPER Local Bus video card at no additional cost to you. The Diamond
VIPER is a higher performance card that ordinarily retails for $70.00
more than the ATI XLR video card.
I hope NEXT gets the VIPER driver out real soon now....
--
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The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
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From: kaelin@Bridge.COM (Kaelin Colclasure)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP on DELL 466/M video modes???
Message-ID: <1678@racerx.bridge.COM>
Date: 12 Aug 93 20:44:07 GMT
Sender: kaelin@racerx.bridge.COM
Organization: Bridge Information Systems
Has anyone succeded in getting any video mode other than 640x480bw
running with the built-in S3 video?
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From: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is the ATI Ultra Pro VL-Vus dead?
Date: 12 Aug 1993 21:46:19 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Sender: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk
Message-ID: <24ednb$2gn@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
References: <24dhsu$r9b@nic.umass.edu> <24e65f$lka@menudo.uh.edu>
In article <24e65f$lka@menudo.uh.edu> sears@uh.edu writes:
>The new ATI card is the ATI XLR. It replaces the ATI Ultra Pro. It is 100%
>compatible with the NEXTSTEP driver for the ATI Ultra Pro (we have 30
>Gateway2000 machines with the ATI XLR which work great with NEXTSTEP).
Wow, this is amazing. I bought an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA about two weeks
ago, and I thought that with the current pc market, maybe it will remain
"current" for about 6 months or so, when suddenly no-one will support it
any more and I'll have to get another card to upgrade to the new standard
performance levels. But this is a record, after only two weeks I find my
card is obsolete.
Ari
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: steve@home.interaccess.com (Steve Norton)
Subject: Serial Ports at High Speed
Message-ID: <1993Aug12.211551.5423@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 21:15:51 GMT
I'm embarking on a project to connect some NeXT's to the Internet via
PPP connections. Not having worked with NeXTs before, can someone advise
me on the quality of their serial (RS232) ports?
What is the highest speed they will run at? Has anyone had problems
running these at 38,400baud, even 19,200 baud? Is there any special
modem that has or has not worked before?
Furthermore, are there serial line multiplexers available? (Cards that
will give 4/8/16+ serial ports on one machine?)
Thanks for the advice.
Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Doug Moore
Subject: NeXT hard disk on Mac trouble
Message-ID: <CBo3yz.DHo@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 22:25:47 GMT
I am trying to move a 210Mb drive from my station to a Centris 610. So
far I have not been able to get the &%#*@ Mac to recognize the drive.
Norton Utilities will see the disk but won't fix it.
How do you do a low level format of a disk on a Mac? If Norton can't,
will Silver Lining? Can I do the work using disk on the NeXT, or should I
just get another enclosure and have three hard drives here?
Why is the rest of the computing world so damn inferior all of the time?
Doug Moore
moor0002@student.tc.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Putting together a no-name NS/I system
Message-ID: <1993Aug12.225853.21384@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 93 22:58:53 GMT
Well folks, after much evangelizing and propagandizing, and with the
help of NeXT's great $249 edu pricing, our department's computer
manager is finally going to try out a NeXTSTEP system. The bad news
is it took me two years to get this far :-); the good news is that
the department is likely to turn over much of its computer installed
base in the next two years; if this works out they could be the NeXT
two years!
OK. Problem: he would like to get a local no-name shop (actually,
they do have a name: MS Engineering) to put together a system.
There's several reasons: they've had a long experience with this shop
and the cost would probably be reasonable (which is especially
important if they're going to contemplate going for more NeXT
systems). The shop is apparently willing to give it a try; they've
had other inquiries about NS and would like to be able to offer NS
configurations.
I would be grateful for any pointers (beyond what's in the compat
guide and release notes) on undertaking this task. Specifically, the
first system we'd like to put together would probably look something
like this: 50 or 66MHz 486, 16MB RAM, 500MB HD, 17" monitor, probably
an ethernet card. Additional systems would probably have smaller
HDs, maybe smaller or grayscale only monitors, perhaps slower 486s.
I used to know quite a bit about Intel hardware, but have lived in
blissful ignorance of that market segment since getting my slab two
years ago.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Next Laser Printer on PC?
Date: 12 Aug 1993 23:15:12 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24eiu0$p5f@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <24dmgk$49t@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: only on black
In article <24dmgk$49t@tamsun.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
writes:
|
| Forgive me for asking a question I'm fairly certain I've seen on here
| before, but how does one connect a Next laser printer to an Intel
| machine? i.e., what type of cable do you need, is it more than just a
| cable, etc.
|
| Diana
Sorry, no can do. The NeXT laser printer is a dumb "lay the bits down on
the paper" box which has to be hooked to a real NeXT (whose CPU converts
PostScript to a bitmapped image).
--
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Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu(Walter C. Daugherity)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: monitor blacks on brightness key
Date: 12 Aug 1993 23:35:44 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24ek4g$qk7@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1993Aug9.141858.3675@ncsu.edu>
Keywords: ROM monitor,screen goes black,brightness keys
In article <1993Aug9.141858.3675@ncsu.edu> jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH CARL
DAVIS) writes:
[description of how screen won't brighten after electrical glitch]
| CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME? I am a graduate student and can not afford to
| replace my monitor.
At least on early versions of the ROM monitor it is absolutely imperative that
you not touch the "brighten screen" or "dim screen" keys until NeXTSTEP has
completely booted. Otherwise the screen can go black. The only fix I know is
to type blind and power off and reboot till the login window appears (sometimes
you can barely see it in a pitch-black room), then (AND ONLY THEN) touch the
"brighten screen" key. Repeat until successful. If you can't do the preferred
power-off sequences you might have to pull the plug.
--
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Texas A & M University uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
College Station, TX 77843-3112 BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Rumplestiltskin)
Subject: NS/FIP Closer and Closer I creep. [Plea for help]
Message-ID: <1993Aug13.001320.6121@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Keywords: NS/FIP Install
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 00:13:20 GMT
Well, I'm almost there I think. The installation goes along its merry
way until it reaches the last message on the Mack Kernel screen. It was
only on briefly, so I'm not sure what it said.. Something about the root
drive I think. Anyway at about this point (not always the same) the computer
reboots. Here is my configuration:
SE2000 Modular EISA Motherboard 486 DX50
AMI Bios (current)
DPT 2022/95 (Floppy disabled, 230-5A1 firmware)
Toshiba 3401 Internal CD_ROM (SCSI ID 1)
Micropolis 2112S (SCSI ID 0)
1.44 Meg floppy. (1.2 is disabled)
ATI Graphics Ultra (Older Mach 8 version)
8 Meg of memory (can't afford more at current prices)
Is there anything inherently wrong with this configuration? Does anyone else
have this motherboard and have success? I realize I can only use the VGA
graphics driver, I've already been told this several times. Has anyone else
experiencec these symptoms and fixed it somehow?
I'm about ready to give in and get a motherboard I know will work. Anybody
have any suggestions for something that will definitely work? I'd like to get
something with no cache, no CPU and no memory, (read as affordable) and move
all my components into it.
Any insight would greatly be appreciated.
-Jason-
Jason LaPierre
University of Rochester
lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Next Laser Printer on PC?
Message-ID: <CBo9sB.8xn@world.std.com>
Keywords: only on black
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <24dmgk$49t@tamsun.tamu.edu> <24eiu0$p5f@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 00:38:35 GMT
In article <24eiu0$p5f@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
>In article <24dmgk$49t@tamsun.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
>writes:
>|
>| Forgive me for asking a question I'm fairly certain I've seen on here
>| before, but how does one connect a Next laser printer to an Intel
>| machine? i.e., what type of cable do you need, is it more than just a
>| cable, etc.
>|
>| Diana
>
>Sorry, no can do. The NeXT laser printer is a dumb "lay the bits down on
>the paper" box which has to be hooked to a real NeXT (whose CPU converts
>PostScript to a bitmapped image).
Yea, but it is not totally impossible, someone with time on their hands
could do an interface for the PC. The NeXT<->NLP interface is a simple
synchronous serial port, and a couple control lines. I would not doubt
that there is a PC card out there already which could handle the hardware
interface with an adaptor, then all you need is a driver and a small
proggy to pump bits at it.
Would be a fun product to do, but can't see getting flooded with orders.
shrug,
--
:: Christopher Lloyd :: Yrrid Incorporated :: lloyd@world.std.com ::
:: NEXTSTEP Special Forces ::
From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is the ATI Ultra Pro VL-Vus dead?
Date: 13 Aug 1993 00:58:25 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <24eovh$dgh@nic.umass.edu>
References: <24dhsu$r9b@nic.umass.edu> <24e65f$lka@menudo.uh.edu> <24ednb$2gn@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Ari P Laakkonen (apl@doc.ic.ac.uk) wrote:
: Wow, this is amazing. I bought an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA about two weeks
: ago, and I thought that with the current pc market, maybe it will remain
: "current" for about 6 months or so, when suddenly no-one will support it
: any more and I'll have to get another card to upgrade to the new standard
: performance levels. But this is a record, after only two weeks I find my
: card is obsolete.
I wouldn't say your card is obsolete. In fact, as far as NeXTSTEP is concerned
there is very little (if any) difference between the new card and the old one.
Also, the ATI is probably the most versatile card on the market, it is
supported by virtually every major platform out there with native Mach32
drivers...and on top of that you can always fall back to it's SVGA or 8514
capabilities.
Oh, there was also mention of the new card being labelled the ATI XLR. I
believe that ATI has NOT named the card...it is allowing the OEMs to call it
what they want (Gateway has chosen to call it the XLR).
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bnh@active.com (Brian Hess)
Subject: Re: What is the serial port problem?
Message-ID: <1993Aug13.023450.6015@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <24e5pl$nrn@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 02:34:50 GMT
In article <24e5pl$nrn@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry
Weiss) writes:
> In article <rorCBMqBz.82B@netcom.com> ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
writes:
> >What exactly is the problem with the serial ports with NeXTSTEP/FIP? I
> >mean, can one at least hook up a 14.4 modem and use a terminal program
to
> >call out?
> >ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
>
> Works for me on a Gateway 2000. Don't try to do alot of other
> stuff at the same time and it will be okay. The systems tend to
> hang with speeds of 19200 and above. 9600 is pretty reliable.
> Jerry S. Weiss
> j-weiss@nwu.edu
Fails for me on a Gateway 2000. It's much worse if you try to do a lot of
other stuff at the same time. But it's *never* perfectly safe after you
open /dev/ttya et. al. You'll crash sometime -- the only question is when.
Most often it will crash sometime later when opening a serial port again.
But sometimes it dies when it gets some random data from the port (like
"RING" or "login:" or the DTR line dropping) and you're no longer running
the comm program. Amd sometimes it just crashes because it crashes.
The way I've found to get it to last the longest yet have reasonable use of
it is (1) run at low speeds (4800 for me, because 9600 crashes too soon),
(2) *never* shut off the terminal program and close the port, and (3)
*never* switch out of its window while data is coming in at full speed.
But remember -- it's still a wild animal. We're talking ways to avoid an
attack for as long as possible, and how to live as minimally dangerously as
possible and still use the COM ports. For example, you can't really
prevent (3) above if some crontab entry starts to run at 2AM while you're
dialed up hacking. The only sure-file way to avoid a crash is to not use
the ports.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Next Laser Printer
Message-ID: <1993Aug13.021301.24996@pixar.com>
Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster)
Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California
References: <24dmgk$49t@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 02:13:01 GMT
In article <24dmgk$49t@tamsun.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
writes:
>
> Forgive me for asking a question I'm fairly certain I've seen on here
> before, but how does one connect a Next laser printer to an Intel
> machine? i.e., what type of cable do you need, is it more than just a
> cable, etc.
>
To my knowledge, you can't. The connector is nonstandard, among other
things. NeXT always said the ColorPrinter would be supported under Intel
(it's a SCSI device) but the old laser printer wouldn't be.
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: success story (Long)
Message-ID: <1993Aug12.051601.19273@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
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Organization: Princeton University
References: <KEN.93Aug11103907@nobunaga.phys.titech.ac.jp>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 05:16:01 GMT
In article <KEN.93Aug11103907@nobunaga.phys.titech.ac.jp>
ken@phys.titech.ac.jp (Ken-ichiro Aoki) writes:
> In article <1993Aug10.201602.6896@leland.Stanford.EDU>
gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello) writes:
> I guess you might call me PC-naive compared to some of the
posters I've
> seen here. I'm used to black hardware where installation just
worked (now
> of course sys admin was another thing entirely...I suspect that's
even
> worse with NS/I).
>
> Me too, I am PC naive, definitely. Yes these stories are scary.
> But, what should be pointed out (perhaps Greg just failed to mention
> it) is that these success stories, esp. this one, is for
> a home brew system, not the ones with the official NeXT
> seal of approval.
Ken-ichiro:
I think you are right. Installs on certified hardware, from Epson and
Intel, have just worked here.
Also, we've installed NS/I on non-certified-but-quality clone with
absolutely no hitches to report. I'll provide more details on
configuration and brand names within a couple of days. (Gotta run
now.)
Phil
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: NS/FI on Ambra boxes
Message-ID: <CBMIxs.5w6@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 02:01:04 GMT
In article <CBLMt9.8Kp@imag.fr> oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
# Did anyone try to install NS/Fi on one of those 486SLC2 based Ambra
# boxes?. (the SLC2 is a 486 manufactured by IBM, it has no fpu but
# 16 k of internal cache). I know NS can't run without fpu, but i've
# been told you could insert a 80387 inside without problem. Does anyone
# know WHY NS needs absolutely the FPU (a normal Unix box can do without
# fpu and won't lose performance).
#
# Thanks.
#
I though NS/I would run on an SX machine. I didn't think it needed FPU.
Kent
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From: robinson@nicmad.uucp (Dennis Robinson - Summer Intern)
Subject: Re: Pentium systems, anyone?
Message-ID: <1993Aug12.220600.9258@nicmad.uucp>
Organization: Nicolet Instrument Corp.
References: <23mda7$h1a@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <248v49INN7qh@gap.caltech.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 22:06:00 GMT
I can't believe they would have a Pentium processor coupled with an
ISA bus in the first place!
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From: stefan@initiera.upnet.se (Stefan Kruger)
Subject: NeXT Color printer on Mac
Message-ID: <1993Aug13.080540.9589@sics.se>
Sender: news@sics.se
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 08:05:40 GMT
Hi,
is it possible to connect a NeXT Color printer
to a Mac ?
--
Stefan Kruger, Initiera Systemdesign stefan@initiera.upnet.se
Scandinavian Distributor of NeXTSTEP
From: kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de (Kay Schulz K8/IVA Tel. ++49-7121-35-1341)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What is the serial port problem?
Message-ID: <199@boschrt.rt.bosch.de.bosch.de>
Date: 13 Aug 93 08:53:40 GMT
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Sender: news@rt.bosch.de.bosch.de
Organization: Robert Bosch GmbH., Reutlingen, Germany.
>Works for me on a Gateway 2000. Don't try to do alot of other
>stuff at the same time and it will be okay. The systems tend to
>hang with speeds of 19200 and above. 9600 is pretty reliable.
>--
>Jerry S. Weiss
>j-weiss@nwu.edu
>Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
>%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Mine crashes also with 2400!
---
/* Kay Schulz kschulz@iva.k8.rt.bosch.de */
/* ab 28.08.1993: kschulz@gold.t-informatik.ba-stuttgart.de */
From: Randy Antler
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Serial Ports at High Speed
Date: 12 Aug 1993 22:55:08 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: usa
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References: <1993Aug12.211551.5423@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
Keywords: serial port ports high speed
In article <1993Aug12.211551.5423@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
steve@home.interaccess.com (Steve Norton) writes:
> I'm embarking on a project to connect some NeXT's to the Internet via
> PPP connections. Not having worked with NeXTs before, can someone
advise
> me on the quality of their serial (RS232) ports?
...
We've been using a couple of Zyxel modems at 38.4K and 19.2K respectively
with out any problems to speak of (relating to the serial ports anyway).
I also use a USR modem at 19.2K on my black hardware at home and it works
just great!
--
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(randy@nacm.com) doesn't mean they're not
(nacmra@cerf.net.com) out to get me!
From: Randy Antler
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Serial Ports at High Speed
Date: 12 Aug 1993 22:55:23 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: usa
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References: <1993Aug12.211551.5423@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
Keywords: serial port ports high speed
In article <1993Aug12.211551.5423@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
steve@home.interaccess.com (Steve Norton) writes:
> I'm embarking on a project to connect some NeXT's to the Internet via
> PPP connections. Not having worked with NeXTs before, can someone
advise
> me on the quality of their serial (RS232) ports?
...
We've been using a couple of Zyxel modems at 38.4K and 19.2K respectively
with out any problems to speak of (relating to the serial ports anyway).
I also use a USR modem at 19.2K on my black hardware at home and it works
just great!
--
Randy Antler Just because I'm paranoid
(randy@nacm.com) doesn't mean they're not
(nacmra@cerf.net.com) out to get me!
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From: Becki Kain <beckers@imagine.com>
Subject: dell problems
Message-ID: <1993Aug10.202949.2663@imagine.com>
Sender: beckers@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 20:29:49 GMT
excuse me for being late on the scene, but what were people saying about
dells having trouble with the intel ether express cards? i have a dell
450 dgx that keeps hanging when a user is on it and it can't reboot from
the command line. if you type /etc/reboot or use the icon in the login
window, the machine syncs like normal, but then the bios never comes back
up. it's one of six, with a dpt card and the intel ethercard in it, and
the other five aren't having any trouble. the only difference between it
and the others is that is has the a/b combo drive and that the dpt is in
slot five and not four. i have disabled the b drive in the cmos and the
eisa config.
anyone have any ideas what's going wrong>?
thanks
beckers
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From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Scanner/software combo for fax service
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 13:28:37 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug13.132837.23778@cyantic.com>
We all know how easy it is to fax from an application in NS, but every so
often, a piece of paper or two needs to be faxed quickly. I'd like to not
have to buy a fax machine, so I thought about hooking up a scanner to my
black next that could be used as fax input.
Are there any combinations of hardware and software that can perform
this function adequately? I'd also prefer a SCSI interface for the scanner
since both serial ports on my Turbo are presently occupied.
Thanks
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which Nanao monitor?
Date: 13 Aug 1993 13:46:25 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Message-ID: <24g5vh$6d2@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
We are about to purchase some white hardware and need some advice on
monitors. Is the T560i monitor worth the extra money (compared with the
T550i)? As I understand it the T560i is a Sony Trinitron while the T550i
is a Mitsubishi. Which Nanao monitor is it that everyone is raving about?
Thanks to all for your kind advice,
Craig Rasmussen
Space Physics/Artificial Intelligence
University of Michigan
From: apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P Laakkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI GUP driver modifications
Date: 13 Aug 1993 15:39:55 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24gckb$jbc@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Originator: apl@santos.doc.ic.ac.uk
Hi,
Since a lot of people have asked me about what had to be done to the ATI GUP
driver to get it to work with the new ATI GUP, I'm posting a quick summary here.
This is also a reply to bagatin@pavone.ENET.dec.com, since my mail messages
can't get through to there.
The first change was to make the driver recognize the new ATI GUP EISA. The
EISA id has changed from ATI4400 to ATI4402. In hex, this is from 0x06894400 to
0x06894402. This number is hardcoded in the driver, and the driver uses the
number to see if the card is installed. I substituted the single occurrence
of this number with the new one. This makes those "Assuming local bus" messages
go away at boot, but still left me with the "cannot map frame buffer" messages.
The second change was to change the hardcoded memory aperture address in the
driver to the one which matched my EISA setup and the ATI power-on defaults.
There are two references to this in the driver (for EISA cards, it ignores
the settings in the driver control panel). One is a byte reference, as in
"movb 7e,al" and the other is "movl 0x07e00000,ecx". Once those had been fixed,
the driver started up ok.
The NXFactor for this card in my system (486/50 EISA) was 0.455. It's not great
but it seems like it was pulled down especially by the window moving and
redraw tests (approx 0.1). If these functions could be accelerated in the
window server (or whatever it is that does these things) to use hardware
bitblts with drivers, then I think we could see far better performance ratings...
windows 3.1 does this, so does NT, and Xfree86.
It seems silly, the hardware is capable of this, but it's just not being used.
Ari
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: What printer for both MacII and NeXT ?
Message-ID: <CBpFvE.Ht@acsu.buffalo.edu>
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 15:47:37 GMT
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.hp
Subject: NEXTSTEP HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: THE CORRECT NUMBERS
Date: 13 Aug 1993 15:52:26 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24gdbq$8hb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I am posting this to clear up the confusion surrounding NEXTSTEP hardware
requirements. There have been many incorrect postings as to the requirements
for NEXTSTEP. There have also been many people inquiring about the
requirements. These are the correct numbers, source: NEXTSTEP CD-ROM.
Eric Hermanson
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR NEXTSTEP 3.1 (Intel and Motorola)
NEXTSTEP *Requires* 8 MB Memory for 2-bit Greyscale
NEXTSTEP *Requires* 12 MB Memory for 8-bit Greyscale
NEXTSTEP *Requires* 16 MB Memory for 16-bit Color
NeXT *Recommends* 12 MB Memory for 2-bit Greyscale
NeXT *Recommends* 16 MB Memory for 8-bit Greyscale
NeXT *Recommends* 24 MB Memory for 16-bit Color
*SUMMARY* of NEXTSTEP Hard Drive Space *Requirements*:
NEXTSTEP *Requires* 120 MB for User Environment
NEXTSTEP *Requires* 330 MB for User Environment + Developer Tools
NeXT *Recommends* 200 MB For User Environment (full install)
NeXT *Recommends* 400 MB For User Environment + Developer Tools (full install)
Full User Environment: 136 MB (NeXT *Recommends* 200 MB for User)
Compressed User Environment: 109 MB
Bare User Environment: 50 MB
All Developer Tools: 100 MB (These numbers are the dev TOOLS only)
Compressed Dev. Tools: 78 MB
Bare Developer Tools: 66 MB
FULL USER + DEVELOPER: **236 MB (NeXT *Recommends* 400 MB for User+Dev)
Compressed USER + DEV: 187 MB
Bare USER + DEVELOPER: 116 MB
** THE ENTIRE USER+DEVELOPER RELEASE OF NEXTSTEP TAKES UP APPROXIMATELY 236 MB
*Detailed* Hard Drive Requirements:
NEXTSTEP consists of a number of independent packages, some of which
can be optionally installed.
USER ENVIRONMENT:
** INDICATES OPTIONAL PACKAGE
NEXTSTEP Essentials
This is the required software, including user environment, UNIX,
Renderman, NeXT Software (network stuff, NeXT Mail, etc), root & me accounts
Installed Size 47.1 MB
Languages
Users can install up to six languages on the system, each one takes up 3 MB
English 3MB, Italian, Sweedish, German, French, Spanish
**DigitalWebster.pkg
This package contains the Digital Webster application, the electronic edition
of Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary.
InstalledSize 18.8 MB
CompressedSize 16.3 MB
**Literature.pkg
This package contains the complete works of Shakespeare, the Oxford Dictionary
of Quotations, and the pictures for Digital Webster.
InstalledSize 40.7 MB
CompressedSize 29.9 MB
**Documentation.pkg
This package contains the NEXTSTEP Network and System Administration manual and
the UNIX manual pages. It also contains the complete set of PostScript Printer
Description (PPD) files.
InstalledSize 18 MB
CompressedSize 8 MB
**NeXTTeX.pkg
This is a full implementation of TeX (LaTeX) and METAFONT.
InstalledSize 8.1 MB
CompressedSize 4.5 MB
=============================================================================
TOTAL USER ENVIRONMENT: 136 MB Full Install
109 MB Compressed Optional Stuff
50 MB No Optional Software Installed
DEVELOPER TOOLS:
** INDICATES OPTIONAL PACKAGE
DeveloperTools.pkg
This package contains applications and files you need for NEXTSTEP development.
InstalledSize 36.4 MB
CompressedSize 18.6 MB
DeveloperLibs.pkg
This package contains software libraries you need to develop NEXTSTEP software.
InstalledSize 30 MB
CompressedSize 14.5 MB
**DeveloperDoc.pkg
This package contains the on-line edition of the NEXTSTEP Developer's Library.
InstalledSize 30 MB
CompressedSize 10 MB
**Demonstrations.pkg
This package contains demonstration applications and images.
InstalledSize 3 MB
CompressedSize 2 MB
=============================================================================
TOTAL DEVELOPER TOOLS: 100 MB Size of All Developer Tools
78 MB Size with Optional Stuff Compressed
66 MB Size with no Optional Software Installed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jose Tomas Henriques)
Subject: What printer for both MacIIci and NeXTslab
Message-ID: <CBpHMC.1KF@acsu.buffalo.edu>
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:25:23 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery)
Subject: Re: split this newsgroup
Message-ID: <1993Aug13.125505.7456@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
References: <LQ5FB7LJ@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 12:55:05 GMT
In article <LQ5FB7LJ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
(Stephan Trebels) writes:
-> Hello folks,
->
-> PROPOSAL:
-> Split the hardware group into
-> comp.sys.next.{i386,m68k,hp,...}
I do agree in principle, but not quite in execution.
I think we need
comp.sys.next.i386
comp.sys.next.m68k
comp.sys.next.i860
etc,.
In addition to a continuation of this group.
As you may have noted, many if not most of the postings here
of late have been for architecture specific SOFTWARE problems.
Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com
NeXT-Mail preferred, MIME-Mail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: THE CORRECT NUMBERS
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:44:07 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug13.164407.10475@julian.uwo.ca>
References: <24gdbq$8hb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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In article <24gdbq$8hb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>I am posting this to clear up the confusion surrounding NEXTSTEP hardware
>requirements. There have been many incorrect postings as to the requirements
>for NEXTSTEP. There have also been many people inquiring about the
>requirements. These are the correct numbers, source: NEXTSTEP CD-ROM.
>
>Eric Hermanson
Will it work with Trident or ET4000 video cards?
Will it work with non-Intel 486 clones?
From: mcomerfo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael C Comerford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FI on Ambra boxes
Date: 13 Aug 1993 17:09:33 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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References: <CBLMt9.8Kp@imag.fr>
In article <CBLMt9.8Kp@imag.fr> oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
> Did anyone try to install NS/Fi on one of those 486SLC2 based Ambra
> boxes?. (the SLC2 is a 486 manufactured by IBM, it has no fpu but
> 16 k of internal cache). I know NS can't run without fpu, but i've
> been told you could insert a 80387 inside without problem. Does anyone
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Beware! I called Ambra yesterday and the salesperson I spoke to assured me
there's no way of adding a coprocessor, be it 387 or 487 or whatever. He said
the only way of having the coprocessor present is to replace the IBM chip by a
full Intel 486 or by adding (replacing?) an Intel Overdrive chip. Kind of
defeats the purpose of the cheaper SLC2 chip, doesn't it?
Mike.
==============================================================================
Michael Comerford
Department of Geological Sciences
Ohio State University
comerford.1@osu.edu
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From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: THE CORRECT NUMBERS
Message-ID: <CBr4JE.Jp1@imag.fr>
Sender: news@imag.fr (Administration des news)
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
References: <1993Aug13.164407.10475@julian.uwo.ca>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 13:38:02 GMT
[DON'T SEND ME EMAIL PLEASE, I'M LEAVING TOMORROW FOR TWO MONTHS]
Wayne Smith (wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca) wrote:
: In article <24gdbq$8hb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
: >I am posting this to clear up the confusion surrounding NEXTSTEP hardware
: >requirements. There have been many incorrect postings as to the requirements
: >for NEXTSTEP. There have also been many people inquiring about the
: >requirements. These are the correct numbers, source: NEXTSTEP CD-ROM.
: >
: >Eric Hermanson
:
: Will it work with Trident or ET4000 video cards?
We have a system running with the ET4000 card (anonymous Tawianese
cheap card), the Orchide designer ET4000 based didn't work. IT's SLOWWWWWW.
Even when you run it in 4 bits Grayscale mode. We have another one with a
VLB ATI with 2 MB VRAM and it's relatively fast (but it's still not *THAT*
fast).
: Will it work with non-Intel 486 clones?
I already asked about the SLC2 (IBM) and i've gathered the following
answers:
1- NS won't work without fpu (i knew that already).
2- You WILL NEED the fpu (i didn't knew that, i thought at first it
was a marketing agreement among Next and Intel to favorise Intel CPU's).
3- All non-Intel 485 clones are fpu-less (except the AMD 486, but i've
never seen a machine with such a gem inside). A 486 clone (or 486SX)
+ fpu combo is still much slower in fpu calculation than a real 486DX,
esp with high clock rates.
Conclusion: All non-Intel CPU's actually available won't run (IF EVERY
THEY WILL) NS with acceptable performance. The AMD486 is an exception,
maybe the AMD486DX2 running at 40 MHz (80 Meg Internal) will be the
best iron for NS/FIP (AMD said they WOULD have one).
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From: dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu (Doug Boyce)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Beta tester for ethercard driver
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Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: University at Buffalo
References: <CBLIzp.4nG@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 15:21:35 GMT
If any sites have the following cards and would like to do a blind beta
test (since we don't have them in-house) drop me a line.
HP Lan Adaptors:
HP27247
HP27250
Doug Boyce
Advance 2000, Inc.
--
Doug Boyce dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cs000rdw@selway.umt.edu (Richard D Warner)
Subject: Can someone diagnose this hardware problem (25MHz Slab)
Message-ID: <1993Aug14.153211.13216@selway.umt.edu>
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 15:32:11 GMT
Hi there -
My slab periodically locks up, and it works again when I reboot,
but....does anyone have an idea what's going on? I can't afford to buy
harddrives and motherboards to swap out; a fix would be great.
About four or five times a week this will happen. The hard drive
will start making a noise that I interpret as it trying to access the
same block over and over. "Dit-dit-dit-dit-dit-dit-dit-dit-dit-dit-dit-
dit-dit-dit-dit-dit-diddldiddldit". It's doing it right now, as a matter
of fact, so I can give a lot of detail. After the noise, it waits right
at thirty seconds and does it again. I happen to know from experience
that as soon as I leave this window, the computer will be locked up.
When I've been at a terminal window and this happens, it kicks out a
"bus error" message. I have reinstalled the 3.0 software, but have not
done a complete rebuild on the hard drive. I can try that, but the bus
error message to me suggests more of a hardware problem.
Now the sound is continuous, instead of stopping and restarting.
Better post this message before it completely locks up on me...
Rich
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI Tape Drivers --- Re: Which Nanao monitor?
Date: 14 Aug 1993 15:45:28 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24j1ao$sl@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <1993Aug14.012309.2782@gcm.com> <24hnem$1ae@digifix.digifix.com>
In article <24hnem$1ae@digifix.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes:
|>
|> There are SCSI Tape Drivers now on ftp.next.com, and we will have
|> working serial drivers soon according to all indications.
|>
|> --
|> - Scott Anguish -
|> sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
|> next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
|>
Where on ftp.next.com? And are these just for White hardware or both black and
white?
thanks
john.
From: NTCLT019@TWNMOE10.Edu.TW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: THE CORRECT NUMBERS
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 93 23:44:25 EST
Organization: MOE Computer Center Taiwan, R.O.C.
Message-ID: <16C2A14DEE.NTCLT019@TWNMOE10.Edu.TW>
References: <1993Aug13.164407.10475@julian.uwo.ca> <CBr4JE.Jp1@imag.fr>
In article <CBr4JE.Jp1@imag.fr>
oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
> I already asked about the SLC2 (IBM) and i've gathered the following
> answers:
> 1- NS won't work without fpu (i knew that already).
> 2- You WILL NEED the fpu (i didn't knew that, i thought at first it
> 3- All non-Intel 485 clones are fpu-less (except the AMD 486, but i've
> never seen a machine with such a gem inside). A 486 clone (or 486SX)
> + fpu combo is still much slower in fpu calculation than a real 486DX,
> esp with high clock rates.
> Conclusion: All non-Intel CPU's actually available won't run (IF EVERY
> THEY WILL) NS with acceptable performance. The AMD486 is an exception,
> maybe the AMD486DX2 running at 40 MHz (80 Meg Internal) will be the
> best iron for NS/FIP (AMD said they WOULD have one).
I have tried to install NS/FIP in a special machine:
CPU: Cyrix 486DLC-33
FPU: Intel 387DX-33
RAM: 16MB
HDD: Maxtor 330MB ESDI + Ultrastor 12F ESDI Card
SCSI: Adaptec AHA-1542B
CD-ROM: Panasonic CD-501
Video: VL-BUS ET4000 with 1 MB DRAM
Surprisingly, it works correctly! I have tried to change HDD to Quantumn
LP240AT(IDE 234MB), and it still works *correctly*!!
One of my friend also tried AMD486DX-40 in a EISA/VL-BUS machine, and
it also works correctly and fast. I will try to install NS/FIP in an
IBM PS/VP2 with 486SLC2-66 machine plus Intel 387DX-33. I wish it still
works, and I will let you know if it doesn't work.
- Phobos
NTCLT019@TWNMOE10 (posting from TAIWAN)
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which Intel Suppliers
Date: 14 Aug 1993 15:58:02 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <24j22a$6e0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
I've been reading in this newsgroup about people having trouble porting
NeXTStep to Intel 486 boxes. My question is: Are there any manufacturers
who are supplying NeXTStep preinstalled who take complete responsibility for
the combined hardware-software environment similar to the way NeXT did before
they got out of the hardware business?
Jim Beauchamp
University of Illinois
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kerchen@k2.cs.ucdavis.edu (Paul Kerchen)
Subject: Diskless NeXT stations?
Message-ID: <CBrLzJ.KqB@ucdavis.edu>
Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: U.C. Davis, Computer Security Lab
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 19:54:55 GMT
I'm interested in running a few NeXT machines (486's) from a
centralized server & I'd like to know if it's possible for them to be
diskless. Or, alternatively, is it possible to load the "NeXT
terminals" with small HD's (for swap space, etc) but keep the bulk of
NeXTSTEP on a common server?
Thanks.\
| "Disembodied gutteral noise need not make sense" |
| Paul Kerchen |
| kerchen@cs.ucdavis.edu |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu ()
Subject: NS/I success? Right. In my dreams.
Message-ID: <1993Aug14.205806.14485@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 20:58:06 GMT
Well, I'm at a total loss - hopefully somebody
will be able to help. I cannot get past the initial
install phase. I'm using:
NICE Super-EISA 486/66 (AMI BIOS 6/6/92) w/20mb
Adaptek 1542c, NeXT CD-ROM drive (Sony CDU-541)
16-bit IDE controller, 3.5" floppy, 450mb drive
ATI VLB/GUP, Nanao F550i
MS-Serial mouse.
With the CD-ROM set to ID #0, the floppy and the
cd-rom in their respective drives, I boot the machine.
it loads the kernel fine, it gets through about a
screenfull of the boot process. After the second
"reseting SCSI Bus..." message, it "registers" the
hard drive fine, then says:
Registering: fc0
Registering: fd0
Registering: fd0a
Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: RETRYING
Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: RETRYING
Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: RECALIBRATING
(over and over and over)
So, firsted I swapped in a different IDE controller. Same thing.
Then I tried a different floppy drive. Same thing. Then I tried
another boot disk, thinking that perhaps this one was corrupt. Same
thing. The Adaptek is set correctly and on the lowest speed (3.3).
I used the same controller/cd-rom drive combo to successfully
install on another machine.
Interestingly, I tried ejecting the floppy just before it tries
to register the floppy, and it gets past that point, but gives
me a whole bunch of "Dropped IRQ #7" (which is the parallel port,
which I tried disabling - to no avail.) It keeps going, despite
the IRQ dropping message, but then finally dies with a "Raise RDP -
press c to continue" (or something like that) message. Pressing
c just brings the message up again.
The only difference (that I can see) between this and the other
machine that I installed is a different motherboard. Does the
NICE Super-EISA just not work?
Well, I hate these kinds of posts, but I simply don't know what to
try anymore. I'm severely bummed. Any help would be nicer than I
could explain.
Giving up for now because I've already wasted SO much time,
Jim
--
Jim Wissner
ex-Campus Consultant
Grand Valley State University
wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: split this newsgroup
Date: 14 Aug 1993 14:44:32 -0700
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Message-ID: <24jmc0$ofn@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
References: <LQ5FB7LJ@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
I agree. I think we should split this group up since our hardware
problems will be drastically different. NeXTCube/Station, other, etc.
would be great.
maurices
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI Tape Drivers --- Re: Which Nanao monitor?
Date: 14 Aug 1993 14:44:29 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24jbqd$4o6@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <24j1ao$sl@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
John G Shirlaw writes
> In article <24hnem$1ae@digifix.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott
Anguish) writes:
> |> There are SCSI Tape Drivers now on ftp.next.com, and we will have
> |> working serial drivers soon according to all indications.
> Where on ftp.next.com? And are these just for White hardware or both black
and
> white?
According to the NeXTanswers 1001_Master_Index file
1234 SCSITapeDriver.pkg 93-07-16
1235 SCSITapeDriver.ReadMe 93-07-16
so they would be in
ftp.next.com:/pub/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/1234.compressed
ftp.next.com:/pub/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/1235.compressed
From the README it looks like they are for 3.1 Intel only (since Drivers are
definately going to be hardware specific) .
From the README
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Installing Update 1 of the SCSI Tape Drive Device Driver for NEXTSTEP Release
3.1 for Intel Processors
These instructions show you how to install the updated SCSI tape drive device
driver on Intel-based computers running NEXTSTEP Release 3.1. The driver is
distributed in an Installer package file named SCSITapeDriver.pkg.
With this updated driver you can use the DPT 2012B SCSI controller with DAT
drives (such as the Archive Python SCSI DAT driver) and UNIX tape utilities,
including tar, dump, restore, and cpio. Note: This update doesn't make DPT
2012B SCSI controllers completely compatible with Exabyte 8MM tape drives.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: somayaji@athena.mit.edu (Anil B Somayaji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <SOMAYAJI.93Aug8013938@carbonara.mit.edu>
Control: cancel <SOMAYAJI.93Aug8013938@carbonara.mit.edu>
Date: 15 Aug 1993 02:45:28 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SOMAYAJI.93Aug14224528@primavera.mit.edu>
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Next Laser Printer on PC?
Keywords: only on black
Message-ID: <70374@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 15 Aug 93 04:20:55 GMT
References: <24dmgk$49t@tamsun.tamu.edu> <24eiu0$p5f@tamsun.tamu.edu> <CBo9sB.8xn@world.std.com>
Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
In article <24dmgk$49t@tamsun.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench) writes
> how does one connect a Next laser printer to an Intel machine?
In article <CBo9sB.8xn@world.std.com> lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd) writes:
> someone with time on their hands could do an interface for the PC.
> Would be a fun product to do, but can't see getting flooded with orders.
I seem to remember that would violate the Adobe license, which was changed
for NS/FIP - something like trading a lower license cost for giving up
the ability to render to the dumb printer.
--
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard,
the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: success story... (EISA/VLB) also OmniKey keyboard weirdness
Message-ID: <jlemonCBsBrp.90n@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 05:11:48 GMT
Well, I finally got my copy of NeXTSTEP up and running, with a minimum
of fuss. Keep in mind that I bought my hardware about two months before
3.1 was released, so this is a "generic" machine.
DX2/66, 7 EISA slots, 1 VLB, 32 MB RAM
SiS chipset, Award BIOS.t
Motherboard was made by MS Engineering, Cupertino, CA.
ATI GUP VLB, 2MB displaying on a NEC 5FG
Toshiba XM-3401B CD-ROM
Adaptec 1542C controller. (I had to buy this to get the system
up and running, since my original setup
had a 1742. C'mon, NeXT, release a 3.2
that has 1742 support, NOW!)
Generic IDE/FD/whatzit controller to support the floppy...
Logitec MouseMan serial mouse
OmniKey Ultra Keyboard
After I got the 1542B and IDE/FD boards to replace my 1742, everything
went fairly smoothly. The initial install mis-guessed my serial mouse
as a PS2 mouse, so when I got to the login screen, I couldn't move the
dratted thing... I ended up re-installing everything, selecting the correct
driver this time around.
Once up, I haven't had a single problem except some weirdness with the
keyboard:
The Omnikey has two Alt keys, and two Control keys, which can be
re-mapped to different locations in the keyboard hardware. The weirdness
is that sometimes only one or the other control/alt keys work. IE: when
Ctrl-Dragging a new connection in IB, only the left Control key is
effictive. When Ctrl-Dragging a new Matrix object in IB, only the right
Control key works. When Ctrl-clicking in Workspace, and on the scroller
buttons, only the right key is effective, again. Emacs will recognize
the left control key.
Has anyone else seen this oddity?
Please e-mail responses; I'll probably miss a reply in all the newsgroup
traffic lately.
--
Jonathan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: NS/FI on Ambra boxes
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 04:08:20 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug15.040820.27872@bilver.uucp>
References: <CBLMt9.8Kp@imag.fr> <24ghsd$7r0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In article <24ghsd$7r0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mcomerfo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael C Comerford) writes:
>In article <CBLMt9.8Kp@imag.fr> oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
>> Did anyone try to install NS/Fi on one of those 486SLC2 based Ambra
>> boxes?. (the SLC2 is a 486 manufactured by IBM, it has no fpu but
>> 16 k of internal cache). I know NS can't run without fpu, but i've
>> been told you could insert a 80387 inside without problem. Does anyone
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Beware! I called Ambra yesterday and the salesperson I spoke to assured me
>there's no way of adding a coprocessor, be it 387 or 487 or whatever. He said
>the only way of having the coprocessor present is to replace the IBM chip by a
>full Intel 486 or by adding (replacing?) an Intel Overdrive chip. Kind of
>defeats the purpose of the cheaper SLC2 chip, doesn't it?
Ambra also has computers with trued 486DX-66s in it. Pricing appears
to be really competitive. They start a bit under $2k.
What blew me away in the pricing was their Pentium based machine was
about $3000 less than any of the competition. $4259 - Pentium - 60
Mhz, 500+ meg hd, 8 meg ram, dual scsi's, 15" FTM display, ATI Ultra
Pro Mach 32 video card with 2MB - sounds like that could be a very
serious NeXTSTEP machine.
--
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.uucp OR bill@bilver.oau.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: austin@netcom.com (Tony Austin)
Subject: Re: The Net works its magic! THANKS! (long, was Chickens and Eggs :-)
Message-ID: <austinCBsK0w.2uF@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <CBFMD0.ELv@aardvark.rain.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 08:10:08 GMT
Chris Lamb (chris@aardvark.rain.com) wrote:
: Well, I'm really happy to say that I managed to get NS/FIP
: installed on my Gateway 2000! And I want to thank all the kind
: folks who sent email with suggestions and encouragement:
: j-weiss@nwu.edu
: mitch@ella.mills.edu
: tacchi@cc.umanitoba.ca
: ridgway@inls3.ucsd.edu
: cedman@lynx.ps.uci.edu
: austin@netcom.com
: ian_stewart@pyrian.com
: dean@rdcalr.realdec.com
: gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu
I too would like to thank the above plus Chris. With ever ones help
I was also able to get NS loaded on my Gateway.
I didn't experience any of the CD-ROM problems he described, and
I don't seem to have the ATI-bright-line problem either.
The only problems I have left are getting the internal modem working
and how to configure the PAS-16 on an IDE machine. It seems that
all the usable DMA slots are in use , specifically 2 & 3 are used by
the IDE drive and the floppy.y.
Thanks Everyone.
Greg Lindholm
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: (laser power failed) == throw out OD ???
Date: 15 Aug 1993 08:40:53 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <24ksql$ddp@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi,
after nearly three years of operating without failure my optical drive
suddenly got into this permanent spin-up/spin-down cycle other people
already described in this forum. The only way to get out of this was to
go into monitor and issue the "ej" command.
/usr/adm/messages contains something like this :
Aug 12 00:13:50 fool mach: od0a: write re-spin (laser power failed) block 116640 phys block 118080 (11529:0:0)
Aug 12 00:14:45 fool mach: od0?: write re-spin (tracking servo failed) block 246896 phys block 246915 (19581:0:3)
Aug 12 00:15:01 fool mach: od0?: write re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 246896 phys block 246915 (19581:0:3)
Aug 12 00:15:46 fool last message repeated 3 times
... etc.
I powered down the system and cleaned cube and optical drive (with Q-tips).
Rebooted the system, inserted a new optical disk : same behavior.
So it looks like the drive is kaputt, or could anybody fix this problem ?
Thanks for any info, Ernst.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ernst Kloecker phone: ++49-30-6181635 e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Diskless NeXT stations?
Message-ID: <1993Aug14.233435.7129@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <CBrLzJ.KqB@ucdavis.edu>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 23:34:35 GMT
In article <CBrLzJ.KqB@ucdavis.edu> kerchen@k2.cs.ucdavis.edu (Paul
Kerchen) writes:
> I'm interested in running a few NeXT machines (486's) from a
> centralized server & I'd like to know if it's possible for them to be
> diskless. Or, alternatively, is it possible to load the "NeXT
> terminals" with small HD's (for swap space, etc) but keep the bulk of
> NeXTSTEP on a common server?
For performance and security reasons, it is a bad idea. I believe that on
white hardware, you will need 3.2 to do it anyway.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: austin@netcom.com (Tony Austin)
Subject: Re: PAS-16 and NS/FIP
Message-ID: <austinCBsLCL.4M6@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <CB5x9E.8yy@unix.portal.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 08:38:45 GMT
Man Wei Tam (raf@shell.portal.com) wrote:
: In article <23k6jf$b5n@transfer.stratus.com> djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson) writes:
: >I recently saw a post from an individual that had spent considerable time is
: >configuring a PAS-16 on NS/FIP. I have "lost" his post, and I am interested
: >in any ideas on getting the damn thing to work. I am able to get it
: >installed and it will "play" short sounds, but longer ones have "drop-outs".
: >
: >486/66 EISA/VLB "NICE" motherboard
: >1542C
: ^^ Try replacing this board for a Adaptec 1740 when 3.2 comes out in
: October.
: >3 - HP SCSI II 540mb Drives
: >20mb ram
: >ATI Ultra Pro video
: >Logitec Bus Mouse
: >no network card
: >
: There is a problem with the firmware on Adaptec 1542-B cards in that
: they cannot DMA 16bits at a time, higher DMA channels cause 2 x 8 bit
: transfers which take a long time, this is causing the drop-outs in audio.
: Try lowering the DMA channel to 3 which defaults transfers to 8 bit audio.
: This should fix the problem. Alternatively, get an EISA SCSI card
: such as the 1740 in October, when support in 3.2 is added.
: Anybody agree with this conclusion?
: Brian Leake.
: x
I'm interested to know if it's possible to get PAS-16 working on an
ISA machine with IDE drive. NeXTANSWERS says you can't use DMA
channels 0, 5, 6, and 7, and IDE and floppy take DMA 2 and 3. There's
none left!
Anyone have any useful input? (or useless input as long as it's clever.)
Greg Lindholm
From: Randy Antler
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Serial Ports at High Speed
Date: 12 Aug 1993 22:54:56 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <24eho0$1bq@news.cerf.net>
References: <1993Aug12.211551.5423@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
Keywords: serial port ports high speed
In article <1993Aug12.211551.5423@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
steve@home.interaccess.com (Steve Norton) writes:
> I'm embarking on a project to connect some NeXT's to the Internet via
> PPP connections. Not having worked with NeXTs before, can someone
advise
> me on the quality of their serial (RS232) ports?
...
We've been using a couple of Zyxel modems at 38.4K and 19.2K respectively
with out any problems to speak of (relating to the serial ports anyway).
I also use a USR modem at 19.2K on my black hardware at home and it works
just great!
--
Randy Antler Just because I'm paranoid
(randy@nacm.com) doesn't mean they're not
(nacmra@cerf.net.com) out to get me!
Sender: news@stasys.sta.sub.org
From: ram@ramsys.sta.sub.org (Reimer A. Mellin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Putting together a no-name NS/I system
Date: 15 Aug 1993 00:48:56 GMT
Organization: at home
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24k15o$1e4@ramsys.sta.sub.org>
References: <1993Aug12.225853.21384@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Stefano Pagiola writes
> OK. Problem: he would like to get a local no-name shop (actually,
> they do have a name: MS Engineering) to put together a system.
> There's several reasons: they've had a long experience with this shop
> and the cost would probably be reasonable (which is especially
> important if they're going to contemplate going for more NeXT
> systems). The shop is apparently willing to give it a try; they've
> had other inquiries about NS and would like to be able to offer NS
> configurations.
>
> like this: 50 or 66MHz 486, 16MB RAM, 500MB HD, 17" monitor, probably
> an ethernet card. Additional systems would probably have smaller
Hmm,
I would go for a system like:
only ISA, but VESA slots
adaptec 1542c
an S3-928 card for graphics for color or
an S3-805 card for 2-bit graphics
Etherexpress or SMC
optional: external cache
The reason for a non-EISA system:
- 3mb/sec is the max. throughput for the isa bus. It should suffice
for most HD's.
- ISA/VESA combinations are cheap and available everywhere, EISA not!
The cache can make some difficulties. It may happen that you have to disable
it to make NSfIP run.
Be sure to get the future S3 driver! you may need more than 16 mb if you
plan to use color!
Comments?
cheers
Reimer
---
Reimer A. Mellin, ram@ramsys.sta.sub.org
Aidenbachstr. 131/6, 81479 Muenchen,
+ 49 89 7849411
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From: dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu (Doug Boyce)
Subject: Re: NS/I success? Right. In my dreams.
Message-ID: <CBt7Au.7Cv@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: University at Buffalo
References: <1993Aug14.205806.14485@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 16:32:54 GMT
In article <1993Aug14.205806.14485@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu () writes:
>Well, I'm at a total loss - hopefully somebody
>will be able to help. I cannot get past the initial
>install phase. I'm using:
>
>NICE Super-EISA 486/66 (AMI BIOS 6/6/92) w/20mb
>Adaptek 1542c, NeXT CD-ROM drive (Sony CDU-541)
>16-bit IDE controller, 3.5" floppy, 450mb drive
>ATI VLB/GUP, Nanao F550i
>MS-Serial mouse.
>
>Registering: fc0
>Registering: fd0
>Registering: fd0a
>Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
>fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: RETRYING
>Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
>fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: RETRYING
>Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
>fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: RECALIBRATING
>(over and over and over)
>
If you have a "DMA START/CMD" option in the advanced chipset option of your CMOS
setup, enable it and try again. If that doesn't work you may have to wait
for an updated floppy driver. The floppy driver has problems with some EISA
motherboards.
Doug
Advance 2000, Inc.
--
Doug Boyce dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Attempted Fax Card Hookup + Needed Drivers?
Date: 15 Aug 1993 17:04:31 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <24lqav$9o4@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I recently bought a $30 2400-baud/9600-baud (Compudyne) internal modem. I
had the card assume it is COM1, and installed/tested it under DOS. The card
does not interfere with booting NS (e.g., unlike a 5.25" floppy).
Unfortunately, when I installed a fax modem (choosing the first entry)
under PrinterManager, I got a NS freeze, and had to reboot/repair hard.
fsck reported that some modem file under netinfo ("read") was dead, and my
netinfo data base disappeared. I understand that a lot of things don't
work; what I do not understand is that the operating system cannot recover
from such problems, and simply terminate this process/thread.
I presume I failed because of the serial driver, not because the fax modem
answered incorrectly. So, I'll join the line and wait for a serial driver.
Once NeXT supplies a serial port driver, I'd like to buy a relatively
generic simple Type-1 Fax modem driver? All I want is the ability to fax
out, never to use the data part or to receive incoming faxes.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu(Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How do I set up ND board?
Date: 15 Aug 1993 19:15:57 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <24m21d$f15@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
I just bought an ND board with 8MB of RAM and a 21" monitor but received no
documentation at all. I placed the ND board in the inside slot opposite the
main board and powered up the system but I get a message at the end of the
boot process: Aug 15 12:53:46 monolith mach: NeXTdimension Board in Slot 4
failed to reset.
Does anyone know what is up? Am I doing something wrong or do I need to load
additional software?
When I run the preferences app and select the double monitor icon I get a
split second flash of something and then it says Not Applicable.
Help!
--
====================================
Alex Currier
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Multiple Architecture NeXTSTEP User
NeXTmail preferred!
====================================
From: kent@mnementh.cs.mcgill.ca (Kent Tse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Laser Printer Accounting??
Date: 15 Aug 1993 19:32:34 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24m30j$ma9@homer.cs.mcgill.ca>
Summary: accounting, laser
Originator: kent@mnementh.cs.mcgill.ca
Hello all,
Does anyone have a laser accounting program which works with the
NeXT Laser Printer on black hardware? This program should be
able to keep a list of users and how much they have initially
paid and then deduct from their accounts when they print. I
should refuse to print the job if they do not have any funds.
I know that I can keep track of who has printed and how many
pages using the printcap entry, but I need to restrict access to
the printer when a user has not paid for the use of the printer.
Please e-mail me at kent@cs.mcgill.ca with any suggestions and I
will summarize. Thanks.
- Kent
--
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System Programmer McGill University
kent@cs.mcgill.ca 3480 University Street, Room 318
(514) 398-6697 Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H3A 2A7
FAX: (514) 398-3883 SOCS Help Desk: (514) 398-7087
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ALR Evolution V benchmarks
Date: 15 Aug 1993 20:43:02 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <24m74m$hhf@umd5.umd.edu>
Hi,
Here are the results of running BenchPress on an ALR Evolution V (60 MHz
Pentium) system with the following configuration:
40 MB RAM
Adaptec 1514C
ATI GUP VLB (2 MB VRAM)
Fujitsu 2263
Animate tensor logo: 125.360374
Draw color ramps: 186.907425
Draw polygons: 101.221451
Draw lines: 92.286453
Text manipulation: 95.744888
Image scaling: 252.159103
Image Decompression: 197.512375
Image compositing:94.224960
Threads (50): 88.191353
Threads (100): 100.490700
Dhrystone: 408.269806
Floating Point: 268.203400
Integer: 275.514709
Trig: 1123.145630
Seeking: 249.658249
Writes: 46.484921
Seq. reads: 391.962372
Random reads: 239.825027
These numbers are relative to a NeXTstation Color (25 MHz) (which has a value
of 100). The total tensor value is 241. As a comparison, the Dell DGX has
a value of 157.
Ross.
PS: If you are interested in the ALR, call them at 800-444-4ALR for details.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
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From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische)
Subject: Re: Next Laser Printer on PC?
Message-ID: <1993Aug15.161555.7128@lkba.uucp>
Sender: lkb@lkba.uucp (Larry Blische)
Organization: LKB Associates, Inc.
References: <70374@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 16:15:55 GMT
In article <70374@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> In article <24dmgk$49t@tamsun.tamu.edu> lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
writes
> > how does one connect a Next laser printer to an Intel machine?
>
> In article <CBo9sB.8xn@world.std.com> lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd)
writes:
> > someone with time on their hands could do an interface for the PC.
> > Would be a fun product to do, but can't see getting flooded with
orders.
>
> I seem to remember that would violate the Adobe license, which was changed
> for NS/FIP - something like trading a lower license cost for giving up
> the ability to render to the dumb printer.
Yes, but I believe that Abode will grant a license to do this for about $50
US. Anybody know what to ask for? Does it come from NeXT or Adobe?
---
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From: gshaw@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP on a DX-50 with VLB for video
Date: 15 Aug 1993 21:26:07 +1000
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32bis
Message-ID: <24l6gfINN49b@kralizec.zeta.org.au>
Hi all,
I am currently running NS/FIP on a 486DX-50 using the standard SVGA
drivers. Yeah, its very congested and only in black and white (2-bit
grey scale).
The video card I am looking at is the ATI Graphics Ultra-Pro with 2MB.
The story I have been getting is that video card manufacturers will not
guarantee their cards performance at anything greater than a bus speed
of 40Mhz. As VLB runs at the processor speed that means that my
processor is too fast for the ATI card. Is this true and has anyone had
any experience is getting a high-performance video card suitable for
NS/FIP to work on a 486DX-50 with ISA and VLB buses.
I suspect that my only solution is going to be exchanging my
motherboard for a DX2-66 which will cut the bus speed to 33Mhz.
It seems silly to me to manufacture a 50Mhz VLB motherboard when you
know that video cards can't use it.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
Greg Shaw.
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From: jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum)
Subject: turbo cube still won't power on/off consistently
Message-ID: <1993Aug15.224834.9322@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 22:48:34 GMT
Hi! A week or so ago I posted about my turbo cube that won't power on
consistently, and loses the boot parameters that I set in the monitor.
Several people responded stating that it was due to a weak battery. However,
I just installed a brand new battery, and the problems persist. In fact,
the machine doesn't even respond to the power key in order to turn the machine
*off*!
I received one other reply to my other post, stating that this is due to a
"bad motherboard." I am stuck with this board, however, as it is not under
warranty. If anyone else has had this problem, and come up with a fix, no
matter how bizarre, please let me know. It is quite frustrating to have this
beautiful board, and not be able to turn it on consistently.
Thanks much!
-jeff
--
"His eyes were eggs of unstable crystal, vibrating with a frequency whose
name was rain and the sound of trains, suddenly sprouting a humming
forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
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From: anderson@biztech.com (Ken Anderson)
Subject: Re: Which Intel Suppliers
Message-ID: <1993Aug15.155227.702@biztech.com>
Sender: news@biztech.com
Organization: Biztech, Inc.
References: <24j22a$6e0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 15:52:27 GMT
In article <24j22a$6e0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
(James Beauchamp) writes:
> I've been reading in this newsgroup about people having trouble porting
> NeXTStep to Intel 486 boxes. My question is: Are there any
manufacturers
> who are supplying NeXTStep preinstalled who take complete responsibility
for
> the combined hardware-software environment similar to the way NeXT did
before
> they got out of the hardware business?
>
> Jim Beauchamp
> University of Illinois
Jim,
It seems like the company doing the most to support NEXTSTEP is
Epson (from personal experience). Also, there are small vendors (such as
Continental Computer in CT) that are putting together machines guaranteed
to run NEXTSTEP.
Ken Anderson
anderson@biztech.com
Stamford, CT
From: cosc176t@menudo.uh.edu (Jason Asbahr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Laser Printer problem, minor
Date: 16 Aug 1993 00:37:11 GMT
Organization: /posole/cosc176t/.organization
Message-ID: <COSC176T.93Aug15193711@menudo.uh.edu>
Greets!
Is there any way to get rid of the occasional horizontal white line
that appears in (as you might expect) black areas of the page?
Adjusting the toner knob in the NLP (settings 1-9) appears to have
no effect. Except for the occasional line, the NLP output is beautiful
as usual...
Is this just one of those Signs From Above that indicate I need
new toner? :-)
Thanks,
--
Jason Asbahr 116 E. Edgebrook #603
asbahr@uh.edu Houston, Texas 77034
asbahr@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXTmail) (713) 941-8294 voice
asbahr@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov UH NeXT Consultant
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FI on Ambra boxes
Date: 16 Aug 1993 02:50:33 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <24mslp$aaa@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <CBLMt9.8Kp@imag.fr> <24ghsd$7r0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <
In article <1993Aug15.040820.27872@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermilli
on) writes:
>In article <24ghsd$7r0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mcomerfo@magnus.acs.oh
io-state.edu (Michael C Comerford) writes:
>>In article <CBLMt9.8Kp@imag.fr> oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
>>> Did anyone try to install NS/Fi on one of those 486SLC2 based Ambra
>>> boxes?. (the SLC2 is a 486 manufactured by IBM, it has no fpu but
>>> 16 k of internal cache). I know NS can't run without fpu, but i've
>>> been told you could insert a 80387 inside without problem. Does anyone
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>> Beware! I called Ambra yesterday and the salesperson I spoke to assured
me
>>there's no way of adding a coprocessor, be it 387 or 487 or whatever. He said
>>the only way of having the coprocessor present is to replace the IBM chip by
a
>>full Intel 486 or by adding (replacing?) an Intel Overdrive chip. Kind of
>>defeats the purpose of the cheaper SLC2 chip, doesn't it?
>
>Ambra also has computers with trued 486DX-66s in it. Pricing appears
>to be really competitive. They start a bit under $2k.
>
>What blew me away in the pricing was their Pentium based machine was
>about $3000 less than any of the competition. $4259 - Pentium - 60
>Mhz, 500+ meg hd, 8 meg ram, dual scsi's, 15" FTM display, ATI Ultra
>Pro Mach 32 video card with 2MB - sounds like that could be a very
>serious NeXTSTEP machine.
>
I agree with Bill. The Ambra system that I saw (in U.S. News & W. R.) looked
very enticing. Even the minitower with a 66mhz DX2 looked good. In either
case an additional 8meg of RAM would needed.
I think that I'll wait until NeXT is running on PowerPC...
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From: dirk@incom.de (Dirk Koeppen)
Subject: Re: Diskless NeXT stations?
Message-ID: <1993Aug15.215407.1898@dksoft.incom.de>
Sender: news@dksoft.incom.de (Owner of the news stuff)
Organization: Dirk Koeppen EDV-Beratung, D-63073 Offenbach, Germany
References: <1993Aug14.233435.7129@BlueRose.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 21:54:07 GMT
M Carling writes
> In article <CBrLzJ.KqB@ucdavis.edu> kerchen@k2.cs.ucdavis.edu (Paul
> Kerchen) writes:
> > I'm interested in running a few NeXT machines (486's) from a
> > centralized server & I'd like to know if it's possible for them to be
> > diskless. Or, alternatively, is it possible to load the "NeXT
> > terminals" with small HD's (for swap space, etc) but keep the bulk of
> > NeXTSTEP on a common server?
>
> For performance and security reasons, it is a bad idea. I believe that on
> white hardware, you will need 3.2 to do it anyway.
We developed a PROM which does diskless boot on TCP/IP for DOS and some UNIX
boxes. So far we have no NeXT support for it. I wrote to NeXT but they
did not answer yet. Maybe somebody hears me know.
ciao,
dirk
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From: lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Rumplestiltskin)
Subject: List of NS/FIP Motherboards? [exist?]
Message-ID: <1993Aug16.130315.27467@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Keywords: NS/FIP Motherboards
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 93 13:03:15 GMT
I'd just like to know if there is such a thing. I think it would
be useful for there to be a sensible list of motherboards that have
been reported to work (reliably), their specs, configuration, and
and maybe even addresses of people who have them working, in order
to give newcomers (such as myself) someone to communicate with.
Any info or comments welcomed.
-Jason-
Jason LaPierre
University of Rochester
lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
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From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which Nanao monitor?
Date: 13 Aug 1993 17:53:15 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Message-ID: <24gkeb$pgi@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <24g5vh$6d2@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
In article <24g5vh$6d2@zip.eecs.umich.edu> rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) writes:
>We are about to purchase some white hardware and need some advice on
>monitors. Is the T560i monitor worth the extra money (compared with the
>T550i)? As I understand it the T560i is a Sony Trinitron while the T550i
>is a Mitsubishi. Which Nanao monitor is it that everyone is raving about?
Both the 550i and 560i get good reviews. The 560i, which I have, is
sharp enough to use at 1280 X 1024, has considerably
lower radiation that the 550i, for what it's worth, and is also
shielded in the back, which makes it possible to put another monitor
alongside it without distortion.
The July 26 issue of InfoWorld included reviews of 17" monitors, and
the 560i did not come out on top, although it did get the highest scores
for overall display quality and for color fidelity. It lost points for
its 1-year warranty (NEC and others have a 3-year warranty), for some
geometric distortion, and for its high price (it had the highest list
price of all the monitors tested). The NEC 5FG and Sony CPD-1730 were
the winners.
Mitch Gass
mitch@mills.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which Nanao monitor?
Date: 13 Aug 1993 14:20:44 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24gm1s$3lb@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <24gkeb$pgi@agate.berkeley.edu>
Mitch Gass writes
> In article <24g5vh$6d2@zip.eecs.umich.edu> rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu
(Craig E Rasmussen) writes:
> >We are about to purchase some white hardware and need some advice on
> >monitors. Is the T560i monitor worth the extra money (compared with the
> >T550i)? As I understand it the T560i is a Sony Trinitron while the T550i
> >is a Mitsubishi. Which Nanao monitor is it that everyone is raving about?
>
> Both the 550i and 560i get good reviews. The 560i, which I have, is
I also have the T560i (and Nathan Janette does to)
I find that it works very well for me. Sharp, excellent anti-glare
coating.
I haven't noticed the distortion that one of the PC mags wrote about.
I've had this one running on a NextStation Color for about 18 months now.
Its very sharp. and there is a whole mess of adjustments that can be
made and memorized on the front panel. Including color diddling.
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From: bff@csn.org (Brendan Forsyth)
Subject: Re: HP scanjet IIc
Message-ID: <CBprD0.Etq@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (news)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
References: <bbrown.93Aug109553@ganesha>
Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 19:55:47 GMT
I just hooked up a 1200c with PostScript connected to a HP/Apollo
(accessing it across the network) and it works great.
It has 6 Megs of memory.
Very good quality and fast.
Brendan
################################
bbrown@solana.com wrote:
: Hi,
: Can I use an HP scanjet IIc with NS/Black and/or NS/FIP? Does anyone out there use this scanner? I have been offered a used model. Does anyone have an opinion about this model. Thanks much.
: Bill Brown
: bbrown@solana.com
From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium systems, anyone?
Date: 13 Aug 1993 20:29:19 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24gtiv$47t@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <1993Aug12.220600.9258@nicmad.uucp>
In article <1993Aug12.220600.9258@nicmad.uucp> robinson@nicmad.uucp
(Dennis Robinson - Summer Intern) writes:
> I can't believe they would have a Pentium processor coupled with an
> ISA bus in the first place!
For all I know, the ISA is a limitation just for the cards that you
plug in it.
In the ALR Evolution V, for example, CPU to memory is a 64 bit data
path, IDE drive control is on-board, and there are some VLB slots to
put cards in, like the ATI GUP. Seems to me the problems with ISA
are the sound card, the ethernet and SCSI drives. Those problems
remain the same, regardless of wether a Pentium or a 468 is used.
Andreas Windemuth
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From: root@drdhh (Bjoern Kriews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pop goes the NeXTstation
Date: 12 Aug 1993 10:05:26 GMT
Organization: Digital Island
Message-ID: <24d4l6$36i@drdhh.hanse.de>
References: <HUGH.93Aug6101228@ear.mit.edu>
In article <HUGH.93Aug6101228@ear.mit.edu> hugh@ear.mit.edu (Hugh
Secker-Walker) writes:
> I had to power-cycle my NeXTstation (mono) last night in preparation
I once had my station coming up with a grey screen and nothing else.
I had to remove the lithium cell for HOURS (yes, I shortened the
contacts on the board after taking it out) to bring it back to life.
Another idea: Attach a LED in series with a 100 Ohm resistor to the
lithium cell on the board and check it's voltage. I don't know what
a station with empty backup supply does.
This sounds like the backup battery since the config ram is only needed
during startup.
Otherwise, open your KBD and check the IRQ line from the power key,
it should show 5V in normal operation and go down to 0V when pressed.
Good luck, Bjoern
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From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky)
Subject: Removable disks for NeXT and Unix
Message-ID: <dgursky.745260766@news.andi.org>
Summary: Need recommendations for removable HD for NeXT / Unix box
Keywords: Megneto-Optical, NeXT, Unix
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:52:46 GMT
I want to add a removable hard drive of some form to the NeXTstation
on my disk. I'm specifically thinking about some high capacity
(128Mb or 256Mb) magneto-optical drive, although I'm open to other
suggestions. I would like to hear recommendations from folks on the
net who have done such things. As an alternative, I could also
connect the drive to our Sun 4 or HP 720, but I would prefer not to.
David M. Gursky MIME and NeXTMail accepted
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Subject: Re: ND gone belly up
Message-ID: <1993Aug13.165822.71196@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 13 Aug 93 16:58:21 MDT
I would like to thank the collective wisdom of *all* the
people who were so kind to respond - - *NOT*. The response
to my problems with the ND was completely underwhelming.
For those few who may still use cubes with ND boards, it
turned out that the power glitch over the weekend corrupted
my netinfo database. Restoring /etc/netinfo/local.nidb
cured the problem, and I'm now back up and running.
I also discovered that it is possible to reproduce this
anomolous behavior by turning off the ND board from the
preferences. In 3.1, this will put your machine in a
nearly unbootable state. That is - it will only boot if
you disable the netinfo crap ( I did this by disconnecting
my network wire), booting single user, and restoring the
databases.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Howard Cole |
Nichols Research Corp. | hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu
DBA Space Dynamics Lab |
1787 N. Research Pkwy | "Leaders on the trailing
Logan, UT 84321 | edge of technology"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Which Nanao monitor?
Message-ID: <1993Aug14.013353.18515@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <24gkeb$pgi@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 01:33:53 GMT
In article <24gkeb$pgi@agate.berkeley.edu> mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
writes:
> In article <24g5vh$6d2@zip.eecs.umich.edu> rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu
(Craig E Rasmussen) writes:
> >We are about to purchase some white hardware and need some advice on
> >monitors. Is the T560i monitor worth the extra money (compared with the
> >T550i)? As I understand it the T560i is a Sony Trinitron while the T550i
> >is a Mitsubishi. Which Nanao monitor is it that everyone is raving about?
>
> Both the 550i and 560i get good reviews.
We have T560i displays and love them.
There is also a new, updated 550 model that should be available soon, and
cost under $1,000, although it's not a trinitron tube like the T560i.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which drive: Maxtor MXT540 or Micropolis 2105?
Message-ID: <1993Aug13.150743.22750@Princeton.EDU>
Date: 13 Aug 93 15:07:43 GMT
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster
This is for one of the early slabs.
Any recommendation on whether to get a
Maxtor MXT540 (540 Meg) ~ $773 (at MacTown)
Macropolis 2105 (560 Meg) ~ $795 (at Direct Tech)
Fujitsu M2624FA (520 Meg) ~ $650 (at Direct Tech)
Also, I have never quite understood the SCSI-II capabilities
of the early slabs. It is my understanding that the
interface for the internal drive is SCSI-I, and that the external
SCSI interface is "almost" SCSI-II. Can I get a true SCSI-II
interface with an external drive, using NS 3.1. Would it be
better to use the drive externally rather than internally?
Tim
--
Timothy Van Zandt (609)258-4050 tvz@Princeton.EDU (NeXTMail)
Dept. of Economics, Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544
From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Running NS/FIP on a TI 4000 WinDX2/50
Keywords: TI portable NS/FIP TexaInstruments Texa Instruments
Message-ID: <1993Aug13.153537.29862@Princeton.EDU>
Date: 13 Aug 93 15:35:37 GMT
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster
TI makes a nice portable which has a DX2/50. You can get an 8 meg RAM, 200 meg
disk version (monochrome) for about 3K. This seems like an ideal NextStep
portable (of course, you have to figure out how to load NextStep). Anybody had
any experience with this machine?
Serge J. Goldstein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: garyb@gcm.com (Gary Blumenstein)
Subject: Re: Which Nanao monitor?
Message-ID: <1993Aug14.012309.2782@gcm.com>
Organization: Greenwich Capital Markets, Inc.
References: <24g5vh$6d2@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 01:23:09 GMT
Craig E Rasmussen (rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu) wrote:
: We are about to purchase some white hardware and need some advice on
: monitors. Is the T560i monitor worth the extra money (compared with the
: T550i)? As I understand it the T560i is a Sony Trinitron while the T550i
: is a Mitsubishi. Which Nanao monitor is it that everyone is raving about?
:
: Thanks to all for your kind advice,
I use the T560i since my eyesight problems make reading anything but the
sharpest displays difficult. The T560i is perhaps the best I've seen so
far. It has a very small dot pitch (.25mm) and it runs at 1024x768 at
76Hz making it a very sharp flickerless display when used with the right
graphics card.
I run mine with an ATI GUP and under NeXTSTEP it was beautiful to look at but
the tearing effect was quite apparent and window movement was slow compared
to say, the Dell JAWS machine. Ultimatley I was forced to de-install NeXSTEP
in favor of old trusty Unix since NeXTEP HAS UNUSABLE HIGH SPEED SERIAL PORTS
AND NO !@#$%! SCSI TAPE DRIVER! Ahhhh!
-Gary
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom)
Subject: Re: What is the serial port problem?
Message-ID: <CBqAFF.9x@np.com>
Keywords: Serial Port
Organization: NP Consulting, San Francisco
References: <rorCBMqBz.82B@netcom.com> <24e5pl$nrn@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 02:47:38 GMT
In article <24e5pl$nrn@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
> In article <rorCBMqBz.82B@netcom.com> ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher) writes:
> >What exactly is the problem with the serial ports with NeXTSTEP/FIP? I
> >mean, can one at least hook up a 14.4 modem and use a terminal program to
> >call out?
> >--
> stuff at the same time and it will be okay. The systems tend to
> hang with speeds of 19200 and above. 9600 is pretty reliable.
> --
caveat: your mileage may vary. My system works reliably at 1200, not
so good at 2400, poorly at any faster speed.
--
--
Paul Nordstrom
NP Consulting
paul@np.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI Tape Drivers --- Re: Which Nanao monitor?
Date: 13 Aug 1993 23:50:46 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24hnem$1ae@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <1993Aug14.012309.2782@gcm.com>
Gary Blumenstein writes
> I use the T560i since my eyesight problems make reading anything but the
> sharpest displays difficult. The T560i is perhaps the best I've seen so
> far. It has a very small dot pitch (.25mm) and it runs at 1024x768 at
> 76Hz making it a very sharp flickerless display when used with the right
> graphics card.
>
> I run mine with an ATI GUP and under NeXTSTEP it was beautiful to look at but
> the tearing effect was quite apparent and window movement was slow compared
> to say, the Dell JAWS machine. Ultimatley I was forced to de-install NeXSTEP
> in favor of old trusty Unix since NeXTEP HAS UNUSABLE HIGH SPEED SERIAL PORTS
> AND NO !@#$%! SCSI TAPE DRIVER! Ahhhh!
There are SCSI Tape Drivers now on ftp.next.com, and we will have
working serial drivers soon according to all indications.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DSP inputs
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 01:10:53 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ogP7DReSMUkH80vF0E@transarc.com>
If anyone has had success interfacing a YM2201K or YM2061 signal
processing chip up to the DSP, please let me know. This is the signal
processor found in many OLD Yamaha CD players. I've tried using the SDO,
SDSY, phi2, R/L, and GND pins; it gives me STATIC which 'sndrecord' and
the examples play back in about an eighth of the right duration. Maybe I
have them crossed... GND is easy. R/L is obviously the frame signal
(SC2). But the rest... ? I begin to think that the serial data clock is
not on the pinouts...
--
Ward C. Travis Pittsburgh PA USA "The fact is the sweetest dream that
travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pop goes the NeXTstation
Date: 14 Aug 1993 10:17:53 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <24i3j1$ib3@cc.tut.fi>
References: <HUGH.93Aug6101228@ear.mit.edu> <24d4l6$36i@drdhh.hanse.de>
In article <24d4l6$36i@drdhh.hanse.de> root@drdhh (Bjoern Kriews) writes:
>I once had my station coming up with a grey screen and nothing else.
>I had to remove the lithium cell for HOURS (yes, I shortened the
>contacts on the board after taking it out) to bring it back to life.
IMHO, removing the battery didn't help you.. Battery is needed to
-to keep internal clock in time
-to snoop if power key is pressed and wake up the power supply if so
-to keep configurations alive
>Another idea: Attach a LED in series with a 100 Ohm resistor to the
>lithium cell on the board and check it's voltage. I don't know what
>a station with empty backup supply does.
It does nothing. It won't fire up, because power supply won't wake up.
>Otherwise, open your KBD and check the IRQ line from the power key,
>it should show 5V in normal operation and go down to 0V when pressed.
It's not an IRQ, it's a special line on Megapixel connector (pins 6 (gnd) and
16 (hot)). There's a logic that gives the interrupt when pin 16 on
Megapixel connector is grounded IF system is UP. If PON (power on) signal
is down, it will give a +3.0 V PUP (power up) signal to the power supply.
--
Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks
Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Which drive: Maxtor MXT540 or Micropolis 2105?
Message-ID: <1993Aug14.033448.4103@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug13.150743.22750@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 03:34:48 GMT
In article <1993Aug13.150743.22750@Princeton.EDU>
tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) writes:
> This is for one of the early slabs.
>
> Any recommendation on whether to get a
>
> Maxtor MXT540 (540 Meg) ~ $773 (at MacTown)
Screaming fast new design, questionable reliability.
> Macropolis 2105 (560 Meg) ~ $795 (at Direct Tech)
Poor SCSI firmware, questionable reliability.
> Fujitsu M2624FA (520 Meg) ~ $650 (at Direct Tech)
Old design: slower, louder, more heat.
>
>
> Also, I have never quite understood the SCSI-II capabilities
> of the early slabs. It is my understanding that the
> interface for the internal drive is SCSI-I, and that the external
> SCSI interface is "almost" SCSI-II. Can I get a true SCSI-II
> interface with an external drive, using NS 3.1. Would it be
> better to use the drive externally rather than internally?
Go ahead and mount it internally, especially if it is a 1" high drive.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Subject: COMPAQ SIMMS memory question
Message-ID: <1993Aug16.152322.18630@cc.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 15:23:22 GMT
Does anyone knows how NextStep for intel reads the SIMMS
installation on a memory expansion boards ? This for a COMPAQ
486/66M.
I have 26 meg RAM recognized by DOS and WINDOWS without
any problems. At boot up, machine tests all of it also.
Yet, NIS will recognize only 16 MEG. The first SIMM I have
of the expansion card is 8 meg. The rest is made of 2 meg SIMMs.
Processor boards has 8 meg RAM.
Does this means I must have same size SIMMs or what ?
Any help appreciated.
JM
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: kent@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Diskless NeXT stations?
Message-ID: <CBu13t.9ns@infoserv.com>
Date: 16 Aug 93 03:16:40 GMT
References: <1993Aug14.233435.7129@BlueRose.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Distribution: na
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
In article <1993Aug14.233435.7129@BlueRose.com> m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
writes:
#In article <CBrLzJ.KqB@ucdavis.edu> kerchen@k2.cs.ucdavis.edu (Paul
#Kerchen) writes:
#> I'm interested in running a few NeXT machines (486's) from a
#> centralized server & I'd like to know if it's possible for them to be
#> diskless. Or, alternatively, is it possible to load the "NeXT
#> terminals" with small HD's (for swap space, etc) but keep the bulk of
#> NeXTSTEP on a common server?
#
#For performance and security reasons, it is a bad idea. I believe that on
#white hardware, you will need 3.2 to do it anyway.
On white hardware you will need more than just 3.2
You need a bios and network card that will go polling the network
interface for booting. Just NS/I supporting it will not do.
The hardware has to support it also.
Kent
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore)
Subject: Re: split this newsgroup
Message-ID: <1993Aug16.150128.7941@imani.cam.org>
Sender: nico@imani.cam.org
References: <1993Aug13.125505.7456@ToTSySSoft.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 15:01:28 GMT
In article <1993Aug13.125505.7456@ToTSySSoft.com> bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce
Gingery) writes:
> In article <LQ5FB7LJ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> trebels@theo-phys.gwdg.de
> (Stephan Trebels) writes:
> -> Hello folks,
> ->
> -> PROPOSAL:
> -> Split the hardware group into
> -> comp.sys.next.{i386,m68k,hp,...}
>
> I do agree in principle, but not quite in execution.
>
> I think we need
> comp.sys.next.i386
> comp.sys.next.m68k
> comp.sys.next.i860
^^^^
A whole newsgroup for ND users, who can't even access the i860 directly? Silly idea,
if you ask me!
Ciao
> etc,.
> In addition to a continuation of this group.
> As you may have noted, many if not most of the postings here
> of late have been for architecture specific SOFTWARE problems.
To add my 0.02$, I don't think this is such a good idea: right now, I, along with
others, I guess, am cultivating myself on NS-PCs. If there were separate groups, I
may not take the trouble to read them.
MOHO
> Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com
> NeXT-Mail preferred, MIME-Mail ok
--
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> "Just once I'd like to meet an alien nuisance <
> that isn't immune to bullets" Policeman, in Dr Who <
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: NS/I success? Right. In my dreams.
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Aug16.173631.9638@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 17:36:31 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1993Aug14.205806.14485@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <1993Aug14.205806.14485@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>, wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu () writes:
|> Well, I'm at a total loss - hopefully somebody
|> will be able to help. I cannot get past the initial
|> install phase. I'm using:
|>
|> NICE Super-EISA 486/66 (AMI BIOS 6/6/92) w/20mb
|> Adaptek 1542c, NeXT CD-ROM drive (Sony CDU-541)
|> 16-bit IDE controller, 3.5" floppy, 450mb drive
|> ATI VLB/GUP, Nanao F550i
|> MS-Serial mouse.
|>
|> With the CD-ROM set to ID #0, the floppy and the
|> cd-rom in their respective drives, I boot the machine.
|> it loads the kernel fine, it gets through about a
|> screenfull of the boot process. After the second
|> "reseting SCSI Bus..." message, it "registers" the
|> hard drive fine, then says:
|>
|> Registering: fc0
|> Registering: fd0
|> Registering: fd0a
|> Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
|> fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: RETRYING
|> Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
|> fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: RETRYING
|> Floppy Controller Reset: Command Timeout
|> fd0: Sector 0 cmd = Read; fd_ioreq.timeout exceeded: RECALIBRATING
|> (over and over and over)
|>
|> So, firsted I swapped in a different IDE controller. Same thing.
|> Then I tried a different floppy drive. Same thing. Then I tried
|> another boot disk, thinking that perhaps this one was corrupt. Same
|> thing. The Adaptek is set correctly and on the lowest speed (3.3).
|> I used the same controller/cd-rom drive combo to successfully
|> install on another machine.
Believe it or not, you have not tried one thing, replace the floppy controller cable. I have experienced the same thing, and it turned out to be the floppy cable. I have seen floppy cable work for DOS/Windoze that would do this on NeXTSTEP sometimes, that also proved to be the floppy cable.
[...]
|>
|> Jim
|> --
|> Jim Wissner
|> ex-Campus Consultant
|> Grand Valley State University
|> wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
--
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_________________________________________________________________________
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From: slv0y@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cannon Color Laser Copiers...Anyone?
Message-ID: <1993Aug16.122230.71259@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 16 Aug 93 12:22:30 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
Is anyone using a Cannon Color Laser Copier with their Next machines? We are
looking into getting one and I was looking for experiences, comments etc.
Also, I have yet to get ahold of anyone at Cannon that even knows what they
are, so any phone numbers would also be helpful. I have used the following:
1-800-423-2366 & 1-516-488-6700. All they seem to know about is bubble jet
printers.
Can the Next RIP for the Cannon or do you need one of the Fiery RIPs?
Thanks a lot,
John Zollinger
slv0y@cc.usu.edu
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is the ATI Ultra Pro VL-Vus dead?
Date: 16 Aug 1993 21:14:52 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <24otcc$3sl@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <24ednb$2gn@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
In article <24ednb$2gn@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> apl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ari P
Laakkonen) writes:
#In article <24e65f$lka@menudo.uh.edu> sears@uh.edu writes:
#>The new ATI card is the ATI XLR. It replaces the ATI Ultra Pro. It is
100%
#>compatible with the NEXTSTEP driver for the ATI Ultra Pro (we have 30
#>Gateway2000 machines with the ATI XLR which work great with NEXTSTEP).
#
#Wow, this is amazing. I bought an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA about two
weeks
#ago, and I thought that with the current pc market, maybe it will remain
#"current" for about 6 months or so, when suddenly no-one will support it
#any more and I'll have to get another card to upgrade to the new standard
#performance levels. But this is a record, after only two weeks I find my
#card is obsolete.
#
#Ari
#
#
Welcome to the PC world..... :-)
--
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The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 16 Aug 1993 17:36:46 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <24oulc$gdi@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong
elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific
questions about NeXT's implementation or porting
issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups
(comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript,
comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that
may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU
Minor editing: Scott Anguish
From: pcnot4me@cs.montana.edu (Craig Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP/Seagate/SCSI questions
Date: 17 Aug 1993 00:25:21 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Montana State University, Bozeman, MT
Message-ID: <24p8hh$pe@pdq.coe.montana.edu>
Summary: Why so slow?
Keywords: HP Seagate SCSI NeXT
I'm perplexed.
Recently I got a 1G HP D2076A hard drive for my NeXTstation TurboColor
to replace the 400M Seagate ST-1480 that was in there. I connected
the drive externally, ran BuildDisk on it which formatted the disk and
copied most of the stuff over. I copied the rest manually. I then
installed it internally and it boots and runs fine - just slower than
the ST-1480 that was in there. Being ignorant about hard drive and file
system tuning, I'd like to know why it runs so much slower and if
there's a way to speed it up.
For the ST-1480, iozone reported: (12M file)
779842 bytes/second for writing the file
951138 bytes/second for reading the file
For the HP D2076A, iozone reported: (12M file)
498641 bytes/second for writing the file
606212 bytes/second for reading the file
I'd greatly appreciate any experiences you've had with this drive
and any suggestions for speeding it up.
Some notes:
- I didn't know which way the on-board terminators should go.
Strangely enough, the drive operates with them in *either* way.
I haven't tried it with them removed. (no external devices)
- It makes a clicking noise every 4-5 seconds
- The NeXT on-board SCSI controller flashes frequently w/o accessing
the HP drive
- NeXT's "scsimodes" program reports the following:
SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a
Drive type: HP D2076A
512 bytes per sector
74 sectors per track
15 tracks per cylinder
1872 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders)
12 spare sectors per cylinder
30 alternate tracks per volume
2059139 usable sectors on volume
I don't know if the problem is hardware or file system related. I'm
sure the 400M Seagate drive that came with my system was tuned for
optimal performance under NeXTstep.
Thanks in advance...
--
Craig Pratt Craig.Pratt@cs.montana.edu
Montana State University, Bozeman MT gcp1070@msu.oscs.montana.edu
"I don't like stuff that sucks. Ah uh-hu hu-hu..." - Butthead
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tom@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Tom Arnow)
Subject: Help! System won't boot with NeXT Dimension Board
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.001035.23549@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 00:10:35 GMT
Systen gives message "Init exited 1" and dies with NexT Dimension board
installed. This comes right after
"Master CPU on Slot 0"
Works when NeXT dimension is removed.
Please help me if you can!
Thank
Tom Arnow
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
From: cdouty@jarthur.claremont.edu (Christopher Douty)
Subject: Which DAT drive to buy?
Message-ID: <CBvpH8.M3@news.claremont.edu>
Keywords: DAT tape backup
Sender: news@news.claremont.edu (The News System)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 01:00:44 GMT
I am looking at DAT drives from Archive, Exabyte, HP, ans WangDAT. They
all seem to be similarly priced, so I am wondering about what characteristics
distinguish between them. e.g. Which has a faster transfer rate? Which
is FH and which is HH? Are the tapes compatible between brands? Has anyone
had problems or a success story with any DAT drive?
Any responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Christopher Douty
cdouty@jarthur.claremont.edu | MIME and | "I ask you, which government
christov@tellink.net | NeXTmail OK | is more threat to liberty, the
----------------------------------------------+ weak, severely limited
government of 1789, or the mega-state of today that takes 40 to 50 percent
of our income, has minions as numerous as the stars in the heavens and
seeks to dominate all aspects of our lives?" - Don Feder
From: jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/I ISA graphics
Date: 17 Aug 1993 02:13:34 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <24peseINN2dc@gap.caltech.edu>
Since installing NS/I on my ISA machine in May, I have
attempted to obtain a video card that will give me the
high resolution 2 bit grayscale I so desire. The hardware
compatibility guide (both April and August) states that two
types of video cards will work, STB Horizon and ET4000AX.
STB Horizon: Though directly referenced by NeXT, this board
does NOT work. Extensive discussions and complaints to
STB have uncovered this cryptic message:
"change internal resister 1F from 24h to 22h or even 20h"
Neither STB nor anyone else I've talked to has any idea
what this means. Unless you know what this means (and please
tell me if you do) the STB Horizon will not work.
ET4000AX: This chip set is used by various manufacturers, and from
what I can tell, some work and some don't. The good news is,
thanks to jmd@handheld.com's suggestion, I got a Diamond Speedstar that
WORKS, straight out of the box. The bad news is Diamond no longer
makes this board, and no one can find any surplus. Oh well.
I am currently chasing a 2theMax ET4000 as recommended by
hv@uwasa.fi.
So, as it stands now, three months after release, it is very
difficult, if not impossible, to get high resolution 2-bit
grayscale on a ISA machine, even though NeXT says you can.
If you have any better info, or know how to set an
internal register, please, please, let me know.
John Stevenson
jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
From: edx@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do I set up ND board?
Message-ID: <1993Aug16.212408.71291@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 16 Aug 93 21:24:08 MDT
References: <24m21d$f15@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Organization: Utah State University
In article <24m21d$f15@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu(Alex Currier) writes:
>
> I just bought an ND board with 8MB of RAM and a 21" monitor but received no
> documentation at all. I placed the ND board in the inside slot opposite the
> main board and powered up the system but I get a message at the end of the
> boot process: Aug 15 12:53:46 monolith mach: NeXTdimension Board in Slot 4
> failed to reset.
>
> Does anyone know what is up? Am I doing something wrong or do I need to load
> additional software?
>
> When I run the preferences app and select the double monitor icon I get a
> split second flash of something and then it says Not Applicable.
>
> Help!
>
> --
> ====================================
> Alex Currier
> mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
> Multiple Architecture NeXTSTEP User
> NeXTmail preferred!
> ====================================
Ha - hahhahahahahah... You bought an ND? hahahahhah... Boy, you've
been *reamed*... Your ND is dead.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby)
Subject: Re: What is the serial port problem?
Message-ID: <1993Aug15.071157.10333@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
References: <24e5pl$nrn@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 07:11:57 GMT
In article <24e5pl$nrn@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry
Weiss) writes:
> In article <rorCBMqBz.82B@netcom.com> ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher) writes:
> >What exactly is the problem with the serial ports with NeXTSTEP/FIP? I
> >mean, can one at least hook up a 14.4 modem and use a terminal program to
> >call out?
> >--
> >ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
>
>
> Works for me on a Gateway 2000. Don't try to do alot of other
> stuff at the same time and it will be okay. The systems tend to
> hang with speeds of 19200 and above. 9600 is pretty reliable.
> --
> Jerry S. Weiss
> j-weiss@nwu.edu
> Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
> %SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
I couldn't get it to work for more that 1 min at a time even at 2400
Did you have your ttys file enabled to answer?
From: warren@cyberspace.com (Warren Victorian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What are these?
Date: 16 Aug 1993 21:33:33 -0700
Organization: (CYBERSPACE) Public Internet 206.286.1600
Message-ID: <24pn2t$1jn@cyberspace.com>
Cc:
I found these wierd international phone sex lines in a magazine the
otherday and I was just wondering how these people can offer a service
like this for free. It makes no sence to me. Anyways it is pretty hardcore
and anyone into that type of stuff should give it a shout.
011-239-129-2618
or
011-239-129-2620
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 04:46:11 GMT
From: jik@GZA.COM (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Message-ID: <jik.cancel.930817044611.137.165@GZA.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,control
Subject: cmsg cancel <24pn2t$1jn@cyberspace.com>
Control: cancel <24pn2t$1jn@cyberspace.com>
.
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From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: Intel GX simms usable on NSC?
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.045407.17985@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 04:54:07 GMT
I've got a couple of 4MB simms that I removed from my Intel GX. Are these
puppies likely to be usable in any way for either a NeXTstation Color or a
NeXTstation Turbo? I've only got 16MB in both of those and I'd love to
bump them up with this leftover 8MB. I'm no SIMM expert so I'm not sure
whether it is even safe to experiment. Can I hurt anything by trying them?
If this won't work, anybody looking for extra memory for an Intel GX? :-)
John Bartley
john@wpa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
Subject: Re: How do I set up ND board?
Message-ID: <abellCBw712.HM7@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <24m21d$f15@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <1993Aug16.212408.71291@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 07:19:49 GMT
After mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex Currier) posted about his troubles
with a new ND board, edx@cc.usu.edu writes:
>Ha - hahhahahahahah... You bought an ND? hahahahhah... Boy, you've
>been *reamed*... Your ND is dead.
Hmmm... Sounds like a freshman. Probably a wimpy nerd freshman who
has to sublimate his never-to-be-requited sexuality by programming
computers and laughing at people whose troubles he tries to persuade
himself are bigger than his own. Can you hear his braying laughter,
intermingled with uncontrollable snorts? Can you see his polyester
pants, too short, almost knickers? Can you smell his rank odor,
emanating from shirts and underwear worn too many times because
he hasn't been home to mommy for weeks and weeks?
As a matter of fact, Alex's board *isn't* dead, but is now up and
running, making beautiful graphics.
Go away, little boy. You belong in the Nintendo groups.
Steve abell@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Another NS/FIP success story... NOT!!!! (long)
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.043806.22270@radical2.radical.com>
Keywords: next nextstep intel micronics gateway
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 04:38:06 GMT
Another NS/FIP success story ... N O T !!!!
Hello, is this the NS/FIP Crisis Center? Well, here I am standing at the
edge of the Great Abyss, trying to decide whether to jump in, toss my PC
in, pitch NS/FIP 3.1 in, or all of the above. One can get very
discouraged after several months of trying to load NS/FIP on a PC.
Luckily, I have black hardware to live for!
I've faithfully monitored this newsgroup for all of the latest tips and
tricks and contacted some of you via e-mail. I've received the latest
information from NeXT Answers. Even after all of the great suggestions,
this is as far as I can get installing NS/FIP:
NeXT Mach Operating System
NeXT Mach 3.1: Thu Apr 29 23:44:40 PDT 1993;
root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-149.22.3.obj~2/RELEASE_I386
physical memory = 8.00 megabytes.
using 20 buffers containing 0.15 megabytes of memory
available memory = 5.64 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 2d3
ISA bus
Warning: Using internal backup device configuration tables
PCPointer Probe: mouseInit failure
Registering: PCKeyboard0
AT THIS POINT THE FLOPPY DRIVE LIGHT STAYS LIT AND THE BOOT DISK JUST
SPINS AND SPINS AND SPINS ...
I've tried everything I've ever seen in this newsgroup. I've tried
unplugging the keyboard. After the umpteenth time of that, the keyboard
died! I've tried a generic non-programmable keyboard. I've tried yanking
the floppy out at the Mach Banner. I've tried leaving the CD ROM out of
the drive. I've tried every possible combination of settings in my BIOS.
I've even tried to get a BIOS upgrade and there is none available.
HERE'S MY ANTIQUE HARDWARE CONFIGURATION:
Gateway 2000 486/33C (October 1991)
Micronics Gemini ISA AT Motherboard (Tower)
Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 0.10 G14 01/15/88
Intel 486DX / 33 MHz with 8 KB Internal Cache
64 KB External Cache
8 MB RAM (8 - 1X3 70 ns SIMM's)
8.3 MHz I/O Bus Speed
System and video BIOS can be relocated to RAM
Micronics Gemini 32-bit Memory Expansion Card (0 MB)
Maxiswitch Anykey 124 Key Programmable Keyboard (New)
Multi - I/O Expansion Card
Floppy Drive A: 3.5" 1.44 MB
Floppy Drive B: 5.25" 1.2 MB
IDE Hard Drive 1: 210 MB Western Digital Piranha 4200
IDE Hard Drive 2: (disabled)
Serial Port COM1: Microsoft Serial Mouse
Serial Port COM2: (disabled)
Parallel Port LPT1: TI MicroLaser PS17
Game Port: (disabled)
Diamond Speedstar Plus SVGA Card
988 Tseng Lab, Inc. 03/01/91 V4.23X
1 MB VRAM
Adaptec 1542C SCSI Controller Card
SCSI ID 7, Internal Termination
Floppy Disabled
TEXEL DM-3024 Internal CD ROM Drive
SCSI ID 0, Internal Termination
Double Speed
Twincom 144DFI Internal FAX/Modem
Set to serial port COM2
HERE'S A TYPICAL BIOS CONFIGURATION:
Phoenix Technologies Ltd. Version
System Configuration Setup 4.03 M1
Time: 20:27:30
Date: Mon Aug 16, 1993
Diskette A: 3.5 Inch, 1.44 MB
Diskette B: 5.25 Inch, 1.2 MB Cyl Hd Pre LZ Sec Size
Hard Disk 1: Type 43 987 12 0 987 35 202
Hard Disk 2: Not Installed
Base Memory: 640 KB
Extended Memory: 7168 KB
Display: VGA/EGA
Keyboard: Installed
CPU Speed; Fast
BIOS Relocate Disabled
486 Cache: Enabled
External Cache: Enabled
Coprocessor: 80387
Reserved Memory; 384 KB
HERE'S MY IRQ INFORMATION (as reported by Microsoft MSD.EXE):
IRQ 0 Timer Click
IRQ 1 Keyboard
IRQ 2 Second 8259A (video card)
IRQ 3 COM2 (fax/modem)
IRQ 4 COM1 (serial mouse)
IRQ 5 LPT2 (NOT detected)
IRQ 6 Floppy Disk (detected)
IRQ 7 LPT1 (detected)
IRQ 8 Real-Time Clock (detected)
IRQ 9 Redirected IRQ 2 (detected)
IRQ 10 (Reserved)
IRQ 11 (Reserved) (SCSI controller NOT detected, no DOS drivers loaded)
IRQ 12 (Reserved)
IRQ 13 Math Coprocessor (detected)
IRQ 14 Fixed Disk (detected)
IRQ 15 (Reserved)
If anyone out there has had any success installing NS/FIP on a similiar
system, please let me know how you did it!!!! If you have an identical
system, I'd also like to know about failures. Do I have any hope at all
waiting for NS/FIP 3.2?
BY THE WAY, my system runs DOS/Windows and Windows NT (March Beta) just
fine. Yes, late at night after the wife and kids have gone to bed, I use
Microsoft Windows. Hey, it works on my hardware and the price was right!
Thanks for listening. I'm feeling much better now. I'm not sure why. :-)
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the
usual or traditional: EXTREME
From: kdae1372@servus08.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Ernst Willand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: panic: during NSFIP-Installation, Please Help
Date: 17 Aug 1993 12:11:54 GMT
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Uni Stuttgart
Message-ID: <24qhua$uuk@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Content-Length: 1272
Hello, maybe someone can help me to get NSFIP installed...
Here is my problem:
I tried to install NSFIP using combibations of three different
mother-boards, 4 diff. floppy drivers and 2 diff. scsii-cotrolers and
allways got the same error codes.
Therefore I think that I am making a principle error?
I used an ADAPTEC 1542B (1542C) with floppy-controler disabled and
a SCSII-Harddisk (ID0) and a SCII-CD-Rom (ID1) both connected to the
internal SCSII-Port. The Harddisk is new (unformatted).
The floppy is connected to an ISA-controler (IDE disabled)
Grafic-card: ATI Ultra pro
The boot process looks like this:
------------------------------------------------------------
boot:
reading system ...
loading mach_kernel ...
...
Next Mach ...
...
root on sd1
rootdev 608, howto 0
panic: (cpu0) vfs_mountroot cannot mount root
panic: Next Mach 3.1 ... root (rcbuilder) objects/mk-1 ...
Raise for RDP connection 6 code 3 subcode 0
type 'c' to continue
-------------------------------------------------------------
the last two lines continue to come up when c is pressed and the
floppy remains active.
all devices seem to be properly recognized but I cant come over this
point.
ANY HINTS ? ? ? ?
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From: ward@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Luke Ward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Apple CD drive on NeXTStation?
Date: 17 Aug 1993 10:39:27 -0400
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <24qqiv$t8c@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>
Keywords: CD-ROM, Apple, Mac
Will an Apple CD ROM drive work on a NeXTStation? Specifically, an
AppleCD 150 or 300? Anyone have any first-person experience with this?
-L
--
Luke.Ward@vtssi.vt.edu, lukew@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu,
Network Research and Planning lukew@vtvm1.bitnet
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (703)231-6026
Blacksburg, Virginia, USA 24061
From: jkim@panix.com (Joachim Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: panic: during NSFIP-Installation, Please Help
Date: 17 Aug 1993 11:01:36 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <24qrsg$f7p@panix.com>
References: <24qhua$uuk@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
This is what I learned from my install:
the motherboard bios had to be tweek (i.e. shadowing turned off etc)
the adaptac (1542C) had to be set up in a 'standard' way (i.e. irq etc)
last but not least, as crazy as it sounds, i had to pull the install diskette out just before I started getting panic errors.
email me if you need more specific info but I do dread going near the install disks...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Becki Kain <beckers@imagine.com>
Subject: 3comm card twisted pair
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.142830.5097@imagine.com>
Sender: beckers@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 14:28:30 GMT
anyone have it working? i can get the thinnet card working fine, but the
twisted pair version doesn't want to work.
thanks
beckers
--
Becki Kain Imagine Multimedia NeXTmail welcome beckers@imagine.com
"amercians have the right to bear a lot of bad music" eldritch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: CD-ROM for Turbo and Intel
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 21:31:48 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.213148.7575@cyantic.com>
Can anyone verify whether the Toshiba 3401E CD-ROM Reader will work with
NeXT HW and with Intel HW. If not, what works and with both platforms?
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: RE: Another NS/FIP success story ... NOT!!!!
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.203829.27373@radical2.radical.com>
Keywords: next nextstep intel
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 20:38:29 GMT
RE: Another NS/FIP success story ... NOT!!!!
I've received several e-mail responses to my initial post about my NS/FIP
installation problem. Several of you suggested physically disconnecting the
5.25" floppy drive and disabling it in the BIOS. I tried it and nothing
changed. This is still as far as the install gets:
NeXT Mach Operating System
NeXT Mach 3.1: Thu Apr 29 23:44:40 PDT 1993;
root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-149.22.3.obj~2/RELEASE_I386
physical memory = 8.00 megabytes.
using 20 buffers containing 0.15 megabytes of memory
available memory = 5.64 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 2d3
ISA bus
Warning: Using internal backup device configuration tables
PCPointer Probe: mouseInit failure
Registering: PCKeyboard0
AT THIS POINT THE FLOPPY DRIVE LIGHT STAYS LIT AND THE BOOT DISK JUST
SPINS AND SPINS AND SPINS ...
Keep those bits and bytes coming.
Thanks to all who have responded thus far.
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual
or traditional: EXTREME
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/I ISA graphics
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.153406.9110@Princeton.EDU>
Date: 17 Aug 93 15:34:06 GMT
References: <24peseINN2dc@gap.caltech.edu>
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster
In article <24peseINN2dc@gap.caltech.edu> jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C.
Stevenson) writes:
> So, as it stands now, three months after release, it is very
> difficult, if not impossible, to get high resolution 2-bit
> grayscale on a ISA machine, even though NeXT says you can.
> If you have any better info, or know how to set an
> internal register, please, please, let me know.
I've tested the vesa localbus version of the "Lexar 1400" (which uses
the Tseng Labs chip set. I'll find out if there is an ISA-only
version of this card, and post anything I find out. (Lexar can be
reached at: 609-890-9000 (ask for Page Douglas, ext. 12).
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Diskless NeXT stations?
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.212815.29387@Princeton.EDU>
Date: 17 Aug 93 21:28:15 GMT
References: <1993Aug15.215407.1898@dksoft.incom.de>
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster
In article <1993Aug15.215407.1898@dksoft.incom.de> dirk@incom.de (Dirk Koeppen)
writes:
> M Carling writes
> > In article <CBrLzJ.KqB@ucdavis.edu> kerchen@k2.cs.ucdavis.edu (Paul
> > Kerchen) writes:
> > > I'm interested in running a few NeXT machines (486's) from a
> > > centralized server & I'd like to know if it's possible for them to be
> > > diskless. Or, alternatively, is it possible to load the "NeXT
> > > terminals" with small HD's (for swap space, etc) but keep the bulk of
> > > NeXTSTEP on a common server?
> >
> > For performance and security reasons, it is a bad idea. I believe that on
> > white hardware, you will need 3.2 to do it anyway.
>
> We developed a PROM which does diskless boot on TCP/IP for DOS and some UNIX
> boxes. So far we have no NeXT support for it. I wrote to NeXT but they
> did not answer yet. Maybe somebody hears me know.
>
> ciao,
> dirk
>
>
> --
> Dirk Koeppen * Holzwiesenweg 22 * D-63073 Offenbach * Germany
> Phone: +49 69 89 3000 * FAX: +49 69 89 3004 * email: dirk@incom.de
A number of vendors will sell your PROMs that fit on most PC ethernet cards (we
got ours from Lanworks -- it works with SMC and Intel cards) and that support
bootp. The problem is not with bootp, however; the problem is with the design
of the Intel NextStep kernel. This is what Next told me when I asked if it was
possible to boot an Intel Next over the network.
At boot time, the kernel wants to figure out what kind of devices you have on
your Intel box (with ISA-bus machines, you can't get that information from the
hardware). The kernel gets this information by reading a hard-coded file from
the "hard disk" --- specifically, it uses the basic PC bios to read from
whatever disk is available on the machine. If you haven't got a disk, you're
out of luck. I was told the kernel would have to be re-designed to support
bootp. Apparently, it's a very low priority with Next. They said something
about looking into it after 3.2 was out, if there was enough demand.
Serge J. Goldstein
Next SysAdmin
Princeton University CIT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nessus@media.mit.edu (Douglas Alan)
Subject: TRANSFER ERROR
Message-ID: <NESSUS.93Aug17194021@twitch.media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Kate Bush and Butthole Surfers Fandom Center
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 00:40:21 GMT
My /usr/adm/messages error log is getting filled up with messages
something like this (from memory, so this isn't exact):
sd0: TRANSFER ERROR, expected 8192 bytes, received 0 bytes
So, apparently something is wrong with my SCSI bus, or there is some
sort of incompatability between my disk drive and my SCSI controller
(it's an Adaptec).
Strangely enough, the system works fine, except for being unbelievably
slow. I thought the slowness problem was due to only having 8
megabytes of memory, but one day it worked at a sort of acceptable
rate of annoying sluggishness for a while, and then after a while went
back to being unbelievably slow again. This led me to believe that
poerhaps this weird SCSI disk error is dragging things way down.
Does anyone know how I might fix this?
|>oug /\lan
<nessus@mit.edu>
P.S. Another question: NeXTstep doesn't seem to understand my ET4000
card, so I've been using it in VGA mode. If I tell NeXTstep to try to
use SVGA, it sort of works, but the monitor can't sync to whatever
NeXTstep is trying to do. Does anyone know of a fix for this?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: van@group1.com (Van Bagnol)
Subject: Appletalk/Localtalk with NS/FIP?
Organization: Group One Ltd.; San Francisco, CA
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 00:44:41 GMT
Message-ID: <CBxJEI.FJ5@group1.com>
Summary: Anyone connect Locatalk to NS?
Keywords: AppleTalk LocalTalk NeXTStep Intel
Has anyone successfully connected an Intel NeXT machine to a Macintosh
Appletalk network? Specifically, has anyone gotten a LocalTalk card (not
Ethernet) installed on a white NeXT box? Are there Appletalk drivers
available for NS/FIP 3.1?
I am considering ways to connect (1) a NeXT machine (not purchased yet),
(2) my Mac IIci, and (possibly) (3) my HP DeskWriter at home. I'm not so
sure about the DeskWriter, although I've heard that someone has written
something to get the NeXT to print to a HP DeskJet.
Thanks,
Van
--
Van Bagnol / Group One, Ltd. / (415) 398-7565 / fax: (415) 986-8380
van@group1.COM / "Parang lumalakad ako sa loob ng panaginip..."
Teatro ng Tanan / Asian American Theatre Company / Windsurfing
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do I set up ND board? (The Answer)
Date: 18 Aug 1993 02:01:41 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <24s2i5$17i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <24m21d$f15@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In article <24m21d$f15@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu(Alex Currier) writes:
>
> I just bought an ND board with 8MB of RAM and a 21" monitor but received
> no documentation at all. I placed the ND board in the inside slot
> opposite the main board and powered up the system but I get a message at
> the end of the boot process: Aug 15 12:53:46 monolith mach:
> NeXTdimension Board in Slot 4 failed to reset.
>
> Does anyone know what is up? Am I doing something wrong or do I need to
> load additional software?
>
> When I run the preferences app and select the double monitor icon I get
> a split second flash of something and then it says Not Applicable.
Many thanks to the numerous responses I received for this question.
Particular thanks to Sam Goldberger for taking time out to answer my pesky
questions. This problem has been solved.
First off, the ND board goes in Slot 2. That's the slot closest to the
power supply on the left side if yu're looking into the open back of the
cube. Secondly (and more to the point), there must be at least four SIMMS
present on the ND board for it to function. I was unaware of this and
after buying two more SIMMS and placing them on the board I installed the
ND and powered up the system and it worked immediately and perfectly (and
boy does it look good!). By the way, the SIMMS should be placed in the
slots on the leading edge first as opposed to the slots closer to the
center of the board.
Well, everything works fine now and I hope these bits of information might
be useful to someone else as they were to me. Once again I thank the
people who took the time and effort to help with my problem and make warm,
happy sounds at the NeXT community at large (a NeXT user's greatest
resource).
--
====================================
Alex Currier
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Multiple Architecture NeXTSTEP User
NeXTmail preferred!
====================================
From: ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Dodamani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Systems from Advance2000 and Continental
Date: 18 Aug 1993 02:14:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <24s39g$go@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello
We are planning to buy a NEXTSTEP-Ready 486-66/EISA system and have
decided to get from one of Adavance200,Buffalo and Continental Systems,
Connecticut. I would like to know how their support and service is. If
anybody had any experience with these vendors, I would appreciate a reply.
Thanks in advance
Ramesh
rxd20@po.cwru.edu
From: ddaniel@bard.MIT.EDU (Daniel E. Bromberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New ambra line!
Date: 18 Aug 1993 02:46:37 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <24s56d$hd8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: Ambra IBM
Potential NS/FIP users:
I'm in love with the new Ambra line of PCs, put out by a "subsidiary" of
IBM! Their prices are quite competetive with discount vendors like
Gateway...AND the new "Blue lightning" line of processors come with a
larger (16 KB) cache, increasing speed by a MIP.
Example:
Model D466Bl
486 Blue lighting DX/66
Pentium ready
8MB RAM
256KB processor cache
3.5" floppy
240MB HD
Onboard SCSi
2 VESA slots
video card w/ 1MB
15" flat square monitor, NI
network-ready (ethernet 10BaseT)
Desktop case
5 16 bit ISA slots
MS-DOS, windows, mouse
$1979 + shipping
or...custom configurable with a variety of options
(1-800-25AMBRA, open til 9PM on weekdays)
Not bad, eh? Now, the question is, does anyone know about possible plans
NeXT might have to support this baby or have any compatibility info
already? It seems like a key major player product that NeXT could support
out of the box. There's a version with CD-ROM installed, so NeXT should
feel obligated to support the onboard SCSI, CD-ROM, and various
controllers the way IBM ships it. It would probably help their marketshare
a lot. Major companies already do a lot of business with IBM. Anyways, any
and all info would be appreciated and I'll post a summary.
Discussion/comments are encouraged!
Excitedly,
Daniel Bromberg
ddaniel@athena.mit.edu
------------
This sentence talks about itself exclusively except for this phrase which
is mentioned at the end.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque)
Subject: a Pentium story, Pentium sorry
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com>
Keywords: DELL 4560/XE, Pentium, NEXTSTEP/FIP, for Pentium ?
Sender: news@cubx.com
Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 12:39:04 GMT
******************************************************
* a Pentium story, Pentium Sorry *
******************************************************
Dear All,
recently at Cub'x Systemes, France, we have received a Dell 4560/XE.
This nice looking 4-wheeled fridge-box Pentium system came with :
a 60 MHz Intel Pentium (mounted on a daughter-board filled with
ugly green straps, daughter-board which itself fits "nicely" in a
Dell 40xx/XE type 486 processor socket.)
32 Mb of RAM (expandable to 128 Mb, we'll get to that point later...)
a 128Ko secondary Cache
an EISA bus (w/ 8 connectors, includ. 2 slaves)
an S3-805 integrated "local-bus" video adapter (1 Mb of Video RAM)
a 3.5" FD
2 serial ports (16550 series) + 1 // port
a mouse, keyboard, Dell 21" Monitor, etc etc...
a big and somewhat ugly box.
NEXTSTEP almost installed free of problems. We'll get to the problem in a
bit.
We have successfully installed NEXTSTEP with
the Adaptec 1542C ISA.
the DPT 2012B/90 EISA.
the BUSLOGIC 747S EISA.
1) a Hard-Drive Story
Using a 2.8 Gb (formatted capacity) Full-Height 5.25" Micropolis was a
no-no.Build-Disk reported -1213 Mb for that same Disk (YES MINUS 1213 Mb)
MS/DOS (best of 4-5 tries) reported and formatted 2400 Mb
NEXTSTEP would (best of 10-15 tries) itself format only 900 Mb.
Then we've heard from Paul Nordstrom (NP Consulting, paul@np.com)
the following :
> In what fashion and with what program have you
> partitioned your disk? Are you aware that NS only
> supports partitions <2Gb?
We had never thought that such limitation could even exist. Anyway, we
chose to go to two 1.74 Gb Full-Height 5.25" (formatted capacity) instead
of the big 2.8 Gb (I forgot to say that our client WANTED at least that HD
capacity). Those 2 disks didn't cause much problems. Actually, they caused
only one. You could easily fit two full-size cows in that huge clumsy box
but you'd have to cut them in half-height bays. When your FD is installed
there is no way you can fit in more than one full-height 5.25" disk. Here
comes the chainsaw !
2) a RAM & Video Story
Our client wanted 128 Mb of RAM (Don't ask me !). Everything was O.K. with
32 Mb (16 Mb in two of the 4 SIMMS slots) but as we filled the last two
with two 16 Mb SIMMS, NEXTSTEP went wild. As the window server was
launched, the screen would fill with random though undoubtedly beautiful
colors. The problem was simple to find but impossible to solve. The memory
location of the S3 board is situated 63Mb after the beginning of the Main
Memory address space. Which makes it impossible to install more than 63 Mb
of RAM in the 4560/XE, 56 Mb being the real-world maximum. Nothing could
be done with the ECU (EISA configuration utility) or the NEXTSTEP
Configure.app. We'll have to wait for the EISA QVision 1280 (which Compaq
will supposedly deliver in late August) to use more than 56 Mb of RAM.
3) a performance Story
Then came the real problem. Let's sum-up. NEXTSTEP is running, on the S3
video-adapter (both in 256 Grayscale & 4096 Colors), with two 1.7 Gb HDs
and one of our (ADAPTEC, DPT or BUSLOGIC). In a second, NXBench is copied
from my floppy to the /me/Apps directory and launched. And gives (to our
big surprise) a poor result of 30 MIPS with an NXBench of 0.63 (in
800x600x16 w/ 32 Mb of RAM).
Let me highlight this : 30 MIPS with a Pentium !!!
I only have one question : WHY ?
Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French Guy"
Cub'x Systemes only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease...
ed@cubx.com 'cause I am the Fox and I do what I want...
From: rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple CD drive on NeXTStation?
Date: 17 Aug 1993 15:56:25 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Message-ID: <24qv39$a0i@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
> Will an Apple CD ROM drive work on a NeXTStation? Specifically, an
> AppleCD 150 or 300? Anyone have any first-person experience with this?
>
> Luke.Ward@vtssi.vt.edu, lukew@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu,
I have briefly used the AppleCD 150 on my NeXTstation. I could not get it
to play audio CD ROMS but I was able to mount the NeXT Education Sampler
disk without any problems.
Craig Rasmussen
University of Michigan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: panic: during NSFIP-Installation, Please Help
Message-ID: <Aug17.174233.62299@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 17:42:33 GMT
References: <24qhua$uuk@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
> I used an ADAPTEC 1542B (1542C) with floppy-controler disabled
> and a SCSII-Harddisk (ID0) and a SCII-CD-Rom (ID1) both
> connected to the internal SCSII-Port. The Harddisk is new
> (unformatted). The floppy is connected to an ISA-controler (IDE
> disabled)
>
> The boot process looks like this:
> ...
> rootdev 608, howto 0
> panic: (cpu0) vfs_mountroot cannot mount root
> ...
>
> ANY HINTS ? ? ? ?
From NeXTanswers #1108 - Adaptec 1542C:
"Some users have reported problems during the installation
process if the CD-ROM drive's SCSI ID is set to zero. The error
message will be "rootdev 608." Changing the SCSI ID has
frequently fixed the problem. Setting the CD-ROM drive's SCSI ID
to six has fixed the problem when nothing else seemed to work."
Hope this helps!
--
Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation
Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
| ... couldn't have been ME
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: scanners for black and white hardware
Date: 17 Aug 1993 18:06:14 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24r6mm$f2v@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
I'm thinking about getting a scanner (probably color, maybe mono). I want it to
work on my current black hardware, but I also want an upgrade path to white
hardware. What do people recommend?
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: Cannon Color Laser Copiers...Anyone?
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.183422.454@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <1993Aug16.122230.71259@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 18:34:22 GMT
In article <1993Aug16.122230.71259@cc.usu.edu> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes:
> Is anyone using a Cannon Color Laser Copier with their Next machines? We are
> looking into getting one and I was looking for experiences, comments etc.
> Also, I have yet to get ahold of anyone at Cannon that even knows what they
> are, so any phone numbers would also be helpful. I have used the following:
> 1-800-423-2366 & 1-516-488-6700. All they seem to know about is bubble jet
> printers.
>
> Can the Next RIP for the Cannon or do you need one of the Fiery RIPs?
Our printer driver DOTS supports scanning and printing on the Canon CLC 300 and
500 Color Laser Copiers.
DOTS uses NEXTSTEP Display PostScript to produce the image on the NeXT machine
and sends it thru SCSI to the Canon IPU, which functions as an interface to the
Copier.
Canon offers different sorts of IPUs. Some of those have PostScript build in.
But those are very expensive. With DOTS producing the PostScript image on the
NeXT, you can save a lot of money and stick with the more affordable IPU-10,
which is a non-PostScript IPU.
In order to be able to print out A3 sized documents in full colour, you need at
least 48MB of RAM on the IPU. And you should have a minimum of 32 MB RAM in
your NeXT system.
NOTE: If you want to use an Intel-Hardware, you must buy a separate PostScript
output license from NeXT or Adobe. This is included in the price of the
original NeXT Hardware. Also some Intel SCSI adapters, like the Adaptec won't
work with the Canon IPUs.
A demo version of DOTS is available from our US distributor Alembic, Englewood,
Colorado. We're also planning to put the demo on various archives next week.
d'ART Software GmbH
Virchowstrasse 17-19
22767 Hamburg
Germany
(++49) 40-38023-0
(++49) 40-38023-290 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Subject: Re: COMPAQ SIMMS memory question
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.192901.1972@cc.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: College of Computing
References: <1993Aug16.152322.18630@cc.gatech.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 19:29:01 GMT
Thanks for people who gave me a solution for that
problem. It worked and having 26meg is far better
than 16 !
JM
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do I set up ND board?
Date: 17 Aug 1993 22:12:42 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <24raja$fd2@cc.tut.fi>
References: <24m21d$f15@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <1993Aug16.212408.71291@cc.usu.edu> <abellCBw712.HM7@netcom.com>
In article <abellCBw712.HM7@netcom.com> abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) writes:
>As a matter of fact, Alex's board *isn't* dead, but is now up and
>running, making beautiful graphics.
So, what was the problem? Btw, why doesn't it work on a 030 cube?
I read that ND requires 040 to operate, why?
--
Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks
Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Intel GX simms usable on NSC?
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.160720.16434@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug17.045407.17985@nimno.wpa.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 16:07:20 GMT
In article <1993Aug17.045407.17985@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John
Bartley) writes:
> I've got a couple of 4MB simms that I removed from my Intel GX. Are
these
> puppies likely to be usable in any way for either a NeXTstation Color or
a
> NeXTstation Turbo?
Should work fine.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: a Pentium story, Pentium sorry
Date: 18 Aug 1993 09:00:46 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Message-ID: <24sr3u$orb@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com>
Keywords: DELL 4560/XE, Pentium, NEXTSTEP/FIP, for Pentium ?
In article <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com> edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque) writes:
>******************************************************
>* a Pentium story, Pentium Sorry *
>******************************************************
>
>
>Dear All,
>
>recently at Cub'x Systemes, France, we have received a Dell 4560/XE.
>This nice looking 4-wheeled fridge-box Pentium system came with :
>
> a 60 MHz Intel Pentium (mounted on a daughter-board filled with
> ugly green straps, daughter-board which itself fits "nicely" in a
> Dell 40xx/XE type 486 processor socket.)
{misc deleted}
>
>NEXTSTEP almost installed free of problems. We'll get to the problem in a
>bit.
>
{more deleted}
>1) a Hard-Drive Story
>
>Using a 2.8 Gb (formatted capacity) Full-Height 5.25" Micropolis was a
>no-no.Build-Disk reported -1213 Mb for that same Disk (YES MINUS 1213 Mb)
>MS/DOS (best of 4-5 tries) reported and formatted 2400 Mb
>NEXTSTEP would (best of 10-15 tries) itself format only 900 Mb.
>
>Then we've heard from Paul Nordstrom (NP Consulting, paul@np.com)
>the following :
>> In what fashion and with what program have you
>> partitioned your disk? Are you aware that NS only
>> supports partitions <2Gb?
>
>We had never thought that such limitation could even exist. Anyway, we
Most 32 Unix systems have this limitations. Use a signed 32 bit int
for a pointer and use negative numbers for errors and stuff and see
what you have left (ie around 2 Gig).
>
>2) a RAM & Video Story
>
>Our client wanted 128 Mb of RAM (Don't ask me !). Everything was O.K. with
>32 Mb (16 Mb in two of the 4 SIMMS slots) but as we filled the last two
>with two 16 Mb SIMMS, NEXTSTEP went wild. As the window server was
>launched, the screen would fill with random though undoubtedly beautiful
>colors. The problem was simple to find but impossible to solve. The memory
>location of the S3 board is situated 63Mb after the beginning of the Main
>Memory address space. Which makes it impossible to install more than 63 Mb
>of RAM in the 4560/XE, 56 Mb being the real-world maximum. Nothing could
>be done with the ECU (EISA configuration utility) or the NEXTSTEP
>Configure.app. We'll have to wait for the EISA QVision 1280 (which Compaq
>will supposedly deliver in late August) to use more than 56 Mb of RAM.
Well, this doesn't sound like Next's Problem. If you cannot find a hole
in the memory space for the video board, things are going to stop real fast.
>
>3) a performance Story
>
>Then came the real problem. Let's sum-up. NEXTSTEP is running, on the S3
>video-adapter (both in 256 Grayscale & 4096 Colors), with two 1.7 Gb HDs
>and one of our (ADAPTEC, DPT or BUSLOGIC). In a second, NXBench is copied
>from my floppy to the /me/Apps directory and launched. And gives (to our
>big surprise) a poor result of 30 MIPS with an NXBench of 0.63 (in
>800x600x16 w/ 32 Mb of RAM).
>
>Let me highlight this : 30 MIPS with a Pentium !!!
>
I'll take a wild guess.
Go back to your first Statement. You have a Pentium (Not a P24T) on a
daughter board plugged into a 486 socket. Basically a chip with a 64 bit
data path trying to talk to cache and memory through a 32 bit path.
The cache should at least be on the daughter board and 256K wouldn't
hurt. You've lost most of your performance going thru the 486 wide path.
You really need a motherboard capable of direct support for the Pentium.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cdouty@jarthur.claremont.edu (Christopher Douty)
Subject: Re: a Pentium story, Pentium sorry
Message-ID: <CBy7tv.F44@news.claremont.edu>
Keywords: DELL 4560/XE, Pentium, NEXTSTEP/FIP, for Pentium ?
Sender: news@news.claremont.edu (The News System)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
References: <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 09:32:18 GMT
In article <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com> edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque) writes:
>******************************************************
>* a Pentium story, Pentium Sorry *
>******************************************************
>
>
>Dear All,
>
>recently at Cub'x Systemes, France, we have received a Dell 4560/XE.
>This nice looking 4-wheeled fridge-box Pentium system came with :
>
> a 60 MHz Intel Pentium (mounted on a daughter-board filled with
> ugly green straps, daughter-board which itself fits "nicely" in a
> Dell 40xx/XE type 486 processor socket.)
>
>Let me highlight this : 30 MIPS with a Pentium !!!
>
>I only have one question : WHY ?
>
>Ed.
>--
>Erik Dasque "The French Guy"
>Cub'x Systemes only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease...
>ed@cubx.com 'cause I am the Fox and I do what I want...
The short answer: Pentiums aren't all that they're cracked up to be.
The longer answer:
Your description of the Dell machine sounds like all currently available
Pentium machines, a hack. Like _all_ of the PC mags have said, it will take
a while before motherboard maufacturers get the faintest idea of what to do
with the Pentium. Since the Pentium is on a daughter-board in the '486
slot, it's going to get 486-like performance to unimportant things like,
main memory and the video. Hopefully things will get better by Christmas
(i.e. after Comdex).
I too am disapointed in this "poor" performance. Didn't the Turbo
machines perform about as well as 486/66s? Oh well, looks like they better
get the HP PA-RISC port finished fast.
Christopher Douty
cdouty@jarthur.claremont.edu | MIME and | "I ask you, which government
christov@tellink.net | NeXTmail OK | is more threat to liberty, the
----------------------------------------------+ weak, severely limited
government of 1789, or the mega-state of today that takes 40 to 50 percent
of our income, has minions as numerous as the stars in the heavens and
seeks to dominate all aspects of our lives?" - Don Feder
From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: a Pentium story, Pentium sorry
Date: 18 Aug 1993 12:25:25 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <24t73l$s0d@nic.umass.edu>
References: <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com>
Eric Dasque (edasque@cubx.com) wrote:
: 2) a RAM & Video Story
: Our client wanted 128 Mb of RAM (Don't ask me !). Everything was O.K. with
: colors. The problem was simple to find but impossible to solve. The memory
: location of the S3 board is situated 63Mb after the beginning of the Main
: Memory address space. Which makes it impossible to install more than 63 Mb
The ATI Graphics Ultra Pro can place it's memory aperture as high as the
124-128 MB boundary. I realize that doesn't quite allow you to add 128 Megs,
but it's certainly closer.
: 3) a performance Story
: Let me highlight this : 30 MIPS with a Pentium !!!
: I only have one question : WHY ?
Well, I could only guess...but my first guess :-) is that just upgrading your
processor is not going to do a whole lot for you. The Pentium is a 64 bit
processor and should be accessing RAM using that full 64 bit (or more!) path.
I would still think you would get a little more performance out of it than
that, but...
If you want to check things out with a pentium you need a full-blown pentium
machine -- pick up an Acer, NCR...or better yet, wait a couple months so that
companies have time to design a good pentium motherboard.
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: a Pentium story, Pentium sorry
Date: 18 Aug 1993 12:27:31 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <24t77j$s0d@nic.umass.edu>
References: <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com> <24sr3u$orb@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Jerry Weiss (jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com> edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque) writes:
: Go back to your first Statement. You have a Pentium (Not a P24T) on a
: daughter board plugged into a 486 socket. Basically a chip with a 64 bit
: data path trying to talk to cache and memory through a 32 bit path.
: The cache should at least be on the daughter board and 256K wouldn't
Good point...but really, the pentium should have more like a 512K cache...
possibly dual 256K...
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cs000rdw@selway.umt.edu (Richard D Warner)
Subject: Re: Can someone diagnose this hardware problem (25MHz slab)?
Message-ID: <1993Aug18.131406.3317@selway.umt.edu>
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 13:14:06 GMT
Thanks to everyone who wrote regarding this problem. I want
to pass on some new info. Since posting I did a complete disk rebuild
and that didn't help at all. Have been able to get to NMI monitor a
couple times while it's happening (sometimes can't) and do a reboot.
On reboot here's the message I get: "READ: bad status detected in sdcmd:
0 read error load failed." Usually even if I can get to NMI I still have
to go to ROM monitor to powerdown. Sometimes I can't even get to ROM
monitor and have to use the Emergency Shutdown Procedure (yank on cord;->).
Rich
From: jbrierre@telenet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can NeXT 17" monitor run on Centris 650?
Message-ID: <2036@telenet.telenet.com>
Date: 18 Aug 93 13:30:04 GMT
Sender: news@telenet.com
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: na
Has anyone tried or succeeded in using a NeXT (Hitachi) 17" color
monitor on a Mac and specifically a Centris 650?
Any idea what kind of cable or cable adapter is required between the two?
Contemplating the purchase of a Centris 650, and take my time finding
a color monitor i can live with; so I would like to use the color monitor
from my 2-headed NeXT Cube for a while.
Any help would be much appreciated.
-------
Jacques Brierre
Alcatel Data Networks
703-689-6511
rainbow!jbrierre@telenet.com
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Systems from Advance2000 and Continental
Date: 18 Aug 1993 13:25:15 GMT
Organization: Athena Design, Inc.
Message-ID: <24tajr$59j@hermes.athena.com>
References: <24s39g$go@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
In article <24s39g$go@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh
Dodamani) writes:
>
> Hello
>
> We are planning to buy a NEXTSTEP-Ready 486-66/EISA system and have
> decided to get from one of Adavance200,Buffalo and Continental Systems,
> Connecticut. I would like to know how their support and service is. If
> anybody had any experience with these vendors, I would appreciate a reply.
>
I had some SCO/XENIX experience with Continental Systems a few years back. I
was very disappointed. They were big on promises and small on delivery. I
have never received all the items that I paid them for.
Sigh.
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
Subject: Why do purchasers of untested hardware flame NeXT?
Message-ID: <CRATH.93Aug18094125@bcarh20d.bnr.ca>
Sender: usenet@bcars6a8.bnr.ca (Use Net)
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 14:41:25 GMT
NeXT takes a lot of time to test an ever-growing number of Intel-based
hardware configurations. Why don't people follow their recommenda-
tions? Those who don't make their purchases based upon the
Compatibility Guide should stop whining and flaming NeXT?
I don't mean to imply that everyone who posts on this issue whines and
complains. However, it seems to me that a growing number of the posts
consist of people venting their spleens at NeXT. I have no objection
to seeing posts of people attempting to get NeXTSTEP up on untried
hardware configurations, it's the attitude of many of the posts that
bugs me.
If you are having trouble installing NeXTSTEP on hardware that exactly
matches something in the Compatibility Guide, then I want to know; I
want to see NeXT kept honest. But if your problems stem from trying
to configure the cheapest (or fastest, or whatever-est) system
possible, then the problems are YOUR problems, not NeXT's.
Am I the only one bugged by this?
Christopher
--
Christopher Rath | crath@bnr.ca
BNR Lab 5 |
Ottawa, ON, Canada | "Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless gas which, given
(613) 765-3141 | enough time, turns into people." -- Henry Hiebert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: panic: during NSFIP-Installation, Please Help
Message-ID: <CBx3L5.9Ln@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <24qhua$uuk@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 19:03:04 GMT
In article <24qhua$uuk@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> kdae1372@servus08.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Ernst Willand) writes:
>Content-Length: 1272
>
>Hello, maybe someone can help me to get NSFIP installed...
>
>Here is my problem:
>I tried to install NSFIP using combibations of three different
>mother-boards, 4 diff. floppy drivers and 2 diff. scsii-cotrolers and
>allways got the same error codes.
>Therefore I think that I am making a principle error?
>
>I used an ADAPTEC 1542B (1542C) with floppy-controler disabled and
[munch]
>The boot process looks like this:
>------------------------------------------------------------
>boot:
>reading system ...
[munch]
>panic: (cpu0) vfs_mountroot cannot mount root
>panic: Next Mach 3.1 ... root (rcbuilder) objects/mk-1 ...
>
>Raise for RDP connection 6 code 3 subcode 0
>type 'c' to continue
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>
>the last two lines continue to come up when c is pressed and the
>floppy remains active.
>all devices seem to be properly recognized but I cant come over this
>point.
>
>ANY HINTS ? ? ? ?
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Institute for geotechnique //// -------
> University of Stuttgart I G S ///// --------
> Prof,Dr.-Ing. U. Smoltczyk --------- ____////// ---------
> -------------------------- -------- /////////// ----------
> Dipl.-Ing. E. Willand -------- //////////// -----------
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
At least one major problem you *may* have is trying to use an Adaptec 1542b
or c with an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro. NeXT Technical support documents this
combination as incompatible with a Dell ME series system. Who knows if the
it may cause problems with others. It is what stopped me from easy
installation of NSFIP, until I took out the ATI GUP. Then everything worked as
it should and I have NSFIP running.
Here's what NeXT TS wrote:
---
Subject: Installing a ATI UltraPro (EISA) card in a Dell ME
There are two problems with using a ATI UltraPro EISA card in a Dell ME
systems. A fixable problem where the system hangs during reboot, and a
incompatibility problem between the ATI card and the Adaptec host adapter.
The first problem is the system will hang after a reboot and you will have to
press the reset button to continue. This problem can be fixed by one of two
options (or both).
1. Update the bios on the Dell to version A04 (the version is displayed in the
startup messages). Dell will send you a floppy that will update the flash bios.
This takes about 5 minutes and is easy to do. This is the preferred method. To
get the latest upgrade revision, call Dell Tech Support @ 800/624-9896.
2. Get new ROMs from ATI. Update from version 112-19100-100 to version
112-19100-101. There are two chips (112-19100-100 and 112-19101-100) labeled
odd and even. Both need to be updated to the -101 version. You can get these
new proms from ATI. Their support number is (416) 756-0711.
The second problem is an incompatibility between the Adaptec (1542B and 1542C)
scsi host adapters and the ATI UltraPro when used in the Dell ME system. You
may see an error messages from the Adaptec card when you boot up and your hard
disk may be trashed. Here are the messages you will see:
AHA interrupt: bad status ff
sd0: INVALID STATUS (Internal error): FATAL ERROR
target:0 lin 0:op: Read block:123248 blockcount:4
I called Adaptec but they know nothing about this problem.
Everything works fine when using a DPT scsi card.
The bottom line is the ATI card will work in a DELL ME system if you get one or
both of the two fixes listed above for the reboot problem, and use a DPT scsi
card.
--------
end of NeXT TS message
-------
I could email you a detailed report of our experience if you like.
--
david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more
voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge.
nextmail: hill@flip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca | (Albert Einstein)
From: zhao@nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Would my PC work with NextStep?
Date: 18 Aug 93 08:59:38
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.93Aug18085938@sparta.nmsu.edu>
I started looking around to get a good PC to run NS from few month
ago. And I got many helpful mail from netters. Because I want to run
image and video on this machine, now I put all the high-end
configuration compatible with NS-intel together as shown in the
enclosed. However, I found no vendor will supply me this kind of PC,
although DELL, COMPAQ, DEC, NEC, EPSON ... all commit to support NS.
Finally, I think, I've better assemble one for myself, since some
netters also suggest me to do so. Would you like to take a look of my
configuration list to tell me if it would work or not, or I would have
a lot of troublesome in assembling.
Regards,
ZiZi
:-( I have no enough equipments to do engineering,
I used to going it by reading, thinking and trying. :-)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
CPU:
Intel 486 50/66 mhz
Motherboard:
Intel Motherboard
3 VESA LocalBus Slots
5 EISA Slots
512k Level 2 Cache
Memory:
32 MB RAM
Hard Driver:
1.2 GB SCSI-2
Video Card:
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro w/ 2MB - VESA LocalBus
Ethernet card:
Intel 16 bit 10BaseT Card
SCSI Controller:
DPT series - DPT 2012/90 or DPT 2012/95
Power Supply: > 200w
Others:
1.44 MB 3.5" floppy drive (prefer 2.88 MB)
Logitec Bus Mouse
I/O board w/ serial, parallel ports
Desktop box, keyboard, etc.
No CD-ROM, No Modem, No Monitor. (I already have them.)
=====> ~ $5,000 ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: Re: a Pentium story, Pentium sorry
Message-ID: <1993Aug18.144438.23397@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
References: <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 14:44:38 GMT
In article <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com> edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque)
writes:
> ******************************************************
> * a Pentium story, mostly deleted *
> ******************************************************
> Anyway, we chose to go to two 1.74 Gb Full-Height 5.25" (formatted capacity)
> instead of the big 2.8 Gb You could easily fit two full-size cows in that
^^^^
> huge clumsy box but you'd have to cut them in half-height bays.
^^^^
An interesting menage of livestock in that box!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: RE: Another NS/FIP success story ... NOT!!!
Message-ID: <1993Aug18.143630.29522@radical2.radical.com>
Keywords: next nextstep intel
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 14:36:30 GMT
Another NS/FIP success story ... NOT!!!
I would like to THANK everyone who responded to my initial post about my NS/FIP
3.1 installation problem. I am amazed at how many people had the EXACT same
problem that I am having. What's even more amazing is that NO two solutions
were the same! Frightening, isn't it?
Here are some of the suggestions that I tried without success:
Physically disconnecting and disabling the 5.25" floppy drive.
Disabling the old floppy controller and using the Adaptec floppy controller.
Setting the CD ROM SCSI ID to 6.
Installing an external SCSI terminator on the Adaptec 1542C.
Disabling all cache.
Removing the boot floppy and inserting the CD at the mach banner.
None of these great suggestions changed a thing. Here is NS/FIP 3.1's epitaph
on my PC:
NeXT Mach Operating System
NeXT Mach 3.1: Thu Apr 29 23:44:40 PDT 1993;
root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-149.22.3.obj~2/RELEASE_I386
physical memory = 8.00 megabytes.
using 20 buffers containing 0.15 megabytes of memory
available memory = 5.64 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 2d3
ISA bus
Warning: Using internal backup device configuration tables
PCPointer Probe: mouseInit failure
Registering: PCKeyboard0
AT THIS POINT THE FLOPPY DRIVE LIGHT STAYS LIT AND THE BOOT DISK JUST
SPINS AND SPINS AND SPINS ...
< moment of silence >
I just happened to receive the Windows NT 3.1 Final Release yesterday. Windows
NT was up and running on my system in less than 30 minutes. At least I can be
amused until NS/FIP 3.2 arrives and I can try installing one more time.
Thanks again to everyone who responded to my cry for help.
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual
or traditional: EXTREME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: darcy@solutions.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Subject: Re: a Pentium story, Pentium sorry
Message-ID: <1993Aug18.153840.13982@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
References: <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 15:38:40 GMT
In article <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com> edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque)
writes:
> 1) a Hard-Drive Story
> Then we've heard from Paul Nordstrom (NP Consulting, paul@np.com)
> the following :
> > In what fashion and with what program have you
> > partitioned your disk? Are you aware that NS only
> > supports partitions <2Gb?
>
> We had never thought that such limitation could even exist. Anyway, we
> chose to go to two 1.74 Gb Full-Height 5.25" (formatted capacity) instead
> of the big 2.8 Gb (I forgot to say that our client WANTED at least that HD
> capacity). Those 2 disks didn't cause much problems. Actually, they caused
> only one. You could easily fit two full-size cows in that huge clumsy box
> but you'd have to cut them in half-height bays. When your FD is installed
> there is no way you can fit in more than one full-height 5.25" disk. Here
> comes the chainsaw !
Why didn't you just format the 2.8 disk to have two 1.2 partitions?
- db
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why do purchasers of untested hardware flame NeXT?
Date: 18 Aug 1993 12:24:00 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <24tl30$qfb@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <CRATH.93Aug18094125@bcarh20d.bnr.ca>
Christopher Rath writes
> NeXT takes a lot of time to test an ever-growing number of Intel-based
> hardware configurations. Why don't people follow their recommenda-
> tions? Those who don't make their purchases based upon the
> Compatibility Guide should stop whining and flaming NeXT?
[munch]
>
> Am I the only one bugged by this?
>
Nope, but I'm not surprised by it.
The funniest one I've seen so far has too be the guy who bitched
because he had his $1800 NEXTSTEP sitting there and it wouldn't work on his
386.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: weiss@pinfo100.informatik.uni-mannheim.de (Michael Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTConnection???
Date: 18 Aug 1993 17:20:08 GMT
Organization: University of Mannheim, Germany
Message-ID: <24toc8$4q7@darum.uni-mannheim.de>
Can anyone give me a pointer on how to contact NeXTConnection? In a recent
posting I read about NeXTConnection selling midi connectors, but the posting
didn't give an address. Thanks.
Cheers, Michael
Michael Weiss
Lehrstuhl fuer Praktische Informatik I
Universitaet Mannheim, D-68131 Mannheim, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: New ambra line!
Message-ID: <1993Aug18.151745.26190@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <24s56d$hd8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 15:17:45 GMT
In article <24s56d$hd8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ddaniel@bard.MIT.EDU
(Daniel E. Bromberg) writes:
> Potential NS/FIP users:
> I'm in love with the new Ambra line of PCs, put out by a
"subsidiary" of
One of IBM's competitors tells me that these are made by Acer in
Taiwan. Can anyone confirm this?
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gwhite@trevnx.bionet.bio.dfo.ca (George White 6-8509)
Subject: looking for NeXT mono monitor service info
Message-ID: <GWHITE.93Aug18160624@trevnx.bionet.bio.dfo.ca>
Sender: usenet@nstn.ns.ca (NNTP Entity)
Organization: Bedford Institute of Oceanography
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 20:06:24 GMT
We have a couple of sick NeXT mono monitors: one can't be adjusted to
be dim enough, the other can't be adjusted to be bright enough. We
feel we can have a good chance of repairing them locally if we can get
service manuals (since our gear spends a lot of time at sea, we like
to be self-sufficient -- UPS won't deliver without a _STREET_ address,
lat&long just won't do). NeXT referred me to Bell Atl. who offered a
board swap but who have been rather slow (24 hrs. and counting) about
getting a shipping label to me by FAX. Does anyone know if manuals
are available for these monitors and how to get them (i.e., a phone
number that works from Canada)?
--
/George White <GWhite@BIOnet.BIO.DFO.ca> Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Subject: Re: How do I set up ND board?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 19:26:20 GMT
Message-ID: <CByzBx.5CG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1993Aug16.212408.71291@cc.usu.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
In article <1993Aug16.212408.71291@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu writes:
> In article <24m21d$f15@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu(Alex Currier) writes:
[Alex's honest question deleted]
> Ha - hahhahahahahah... You bought an ND? hahahahhah... Boy, you've
> been *reamed*... Your ND is dead.
This bozo is free to display his quality to the rest of us, and we, I'm
sure, will shrug and go about our affairs.
I have a practical response (though not the needed answer to your
question, I'm afraid, Alex!). I will finally post the NeXTdimension
Compendium article (in 2 parts - it's HUGE) to this newsgroup before the
end of next week. (I'm waiting on permissions to quote the original
posters). It doesn't have all the answers (it's not really a FAQ, more
like a collection of Net wisdom and e-mail conversations) but it has a lot
of interesting and, I hope, useful stuff. Alex, when you find the answer
to your difficulty, would you allow me to include it?
The NeXTdimension was and is a flawed but brilliant piece of hardware, as
yet unmatched in its capabilities. I, for one, have no qualms about buying
one, and I've looked into the matter. As an aside to our guest, what the
hell do you know about them?
Steve Weintz
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (which I don't speak for)
scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Subject: Some perspective on NeXTSTEP's hardware requirements
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 20:09:11 GMT
Message-ID: <CBz1BC.67o@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <24tfd3$93h@polaris.cainc.com>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Keywords: NeXT, requirements, graphics, Photoshop
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
In regards to recent discussions regarding NeXTSTEP's hunger for
resources, it's worth looking at what some people are needing for similar
tasks on other platforms. Graphics and multimedia are one of NeXTSTEP's
greatest strengths and ones that drew me to NS in the first place. No one
gets away with Hardware Lite in this field:
In article <24tfd3$93h@polaris.cainc.com> pat@polaris.cainc.com (G Patrick
Stack) writes:
> In article <mac.84@novell.ur.utk.edu> mac@novell.ur.utk.edu (Mac
McDougald) writes:
> >How is Photoshop going to run on a PC (486/66 local bus, Cirrus
>> accelerator card) with 8 meg of RAM? How much RAM will WinDoze support?
>> Some folks say no limit, some say anything above 16 Meg is wasted?
> >
> >All responses greatly appreciated...
> >
> I have been using PhotoShop for MS-Windows for 3 months now with very
good results.> My config is 486/66 isa/local bus, 24 MB ram, #9 GxiTC
video card (you will> want a true color card, 16 or 24 bit), 877 MB SCSI,
and the usual other stuff, > CD, Bernoulli, 1/4 tape, Epson 600C scanner.
Windows can use as much> memory as your mother board can handle. I plan
on adding another 16 MB.> 8 MB is not nearly enough. You can figure
Windows will take about 4 MB,> with PhotoShop wanting 7 or 8 MB or real
memory.> I work on 8x10 original photos, scanned in at 300 dpi, in true
color mode. > That makes for a 20 MB image. My understanding is that
PhotoShop then uses> about 3 times that for internal working memory, or
about 60 MB. PhotoShop> does have it's own virtual memory handler, but it
does run slower.> Even on the MAC, I know of people with Quadras setup
with 140 MB of ram> for use with PhotoShop, so it's not just a MS-Windows
issue. Anyway, great product,
> I have used Aldus PhotoStyler and Micrografx Picture Publisher, and in
my opinion,
> PhotoShop is the best.
>
> --
> _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ pats@cainc.com
> _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
FWIW, (and NS is worth it!)
Steve Weintz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 1742 (EISA) board
Message-ID: <1993Aug18.124315.6228@nic.csu.net>
From: vqueved@nssnext.calstatela.edu (Victor Quevedo)
Date: 18 Aug 93 12:43:14 PDT
Keywords: SCSI Adaptec 1742
Is there a NS/I 3.0 driver for the Adaptec 1742 yet? I remember hearing
that NeXT will release drivers as they become (go through testing). Is
there on avaible?
Victor Quevedo
vqueved@nssnext.calstatela.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Rumplestiltskin)
Subject: Anyone use AMI Enterprise III?
Message-ID: <1993Aug18.211852.4083@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Keywords: Motherboard AMI NS/FIP
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 93 21:18:52 GMT
As the subject says, does anyone use, or rather -successfully- use
AMI's Enterprise III motherboard? And if so what peripherals are you
using on it?
I have replaced everything on my system (that needed it) with parts
from the NeXTSTEP hardware compatibility guide. However, upon trying
to install, it reboots after giving the message about mounting the
CD-ROM and skipping the filesystem check. Here's what I'm using:
DPT 2022/95 EISA SCSI-II controller (floppy disabled, new firmware)
Diamond Speedstart Plus 1Meg (ET4000)
Toshiba 3401B CD-ROM (id1)
Micropolis 2112 (id0)
Logitech Mouseman (Serial)
DTC EISA IDE controller w/ IDE disabled (only used for 3.5" floppy)
8Meg RAM
If anyone sees a problem here that may not be the motherboard I welcome
suggestions. I would like to do the AMI motherboard anyway because it
has more memory slots and I have access to more 1Meg SIMMS at the moment.
The mother board I'm currently using says BCM Advanced Research Corp.
It came in a computer from Standard Computer Corp. (no longer in business).
Thanks in advance
-Jason-
Jason LaPierre
University of Rochester
lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: scollins@lookout.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com (Steven Collins)
Subject: HP DAT tape drive not recognized on NS486
Message-ID: <CByrpG.uK@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>
Sender: news@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com (IT Netnews)
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 16:41:39 GMT
My NS486 system has a Seagate SCSI drive, a Toshiba 3401 CDROM,
and a HP DAT tape drive hooked up to an adaptec 1542b scsi controller.
I have tried multiple configurations and ordering of SCSI ID's
but the HP DAT tape drive is not recognized by the controller.
I works fine on Black hardware.
Anybody using the HP DAT tape drive or have any ideas?
Thanks
--
From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: a Pentium story, Pentium sorry
Date: 18 Aug 1993 22:03:19 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24u8v7$121@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com>
In article <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com> edasque@cubx.com (Eric
Dasque) writes:
>
> 3) a performance Story
>
> Then came the real problem. Let's sum-up. NEXTSTEP is running, on the S3
> video-adapter (both in 256 Grayscale & 4096 Colors), with two 1.7 Gb HDs
> and one of our (ADAPTEC, DPT or BUSLOGIC). In a second, NXBench is copied
> from my floppy to the /me/Apps directory and launched. And gives (to our
> big surprise) a poor result of 30 MIPS with an NXBench of 0.63 (in
> 800x600x16 w/ 32 Mb of RAM).
>
> Let me highlight this : 30 MIPS with a Pentium !!!
>
> I only have one question : WHY ?
>
Pretty dismal, I agree. Compare with the recently reported benchmarks
of the ALR Evolution V, giving ~56 MIPS and generally about a 1.5-2
fold increase in performance over the best 468 systems.
Andreas Windemuth
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From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 3d boards for white hardware? ( ND for ISA? )
Date: 18 Aug 93 18:34:36
Organization: /cis/lightning2/bwh/.organization
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <BWH.93Aug18183436@beach.cis.ufl.edu>
Are there 3d coprocessing boards available for the white hardware NS/FIP?
How much, who makes it, etc? Will ND be ported to the ISA or VLB?
Thanks,
Brian
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From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Subject: Re: Some perspective on NeXTSTEP's hardware requirements
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 22:44:12 GMT
Message-ID: <CBz8Hp.8zF@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <CBz1BC.67o@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Oops! I left out the source! this was from comp.graphics. ("10 demerits
for inadequate bibliographic skills, Mr. Weintz...")
In article <CBz1BC.67o@news.cso.uiuc.edu> scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu
(Steven C Weintz) writes:
> In regards to recent discussions regarding NeXTSTEP's hunger for
> resources, it's worth looking at what some people are needing for
similar
> tasks on other platforms. Graphics and multimedia are one of NeXTSTEP's
> greatest strengths and ones that drew me to NS in the first place. No
one
> gets away with Hardware Lite in this field:
[rest of my post]
From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on HP Vectra
Date: 18 Aug 1993 23:35:32 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Message-ID: <24uec4$krk@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
I'm looking into buying an HP Vectra and was just wondering if anyone out
there has any comments on how well NeXTstep runs on the Vectra.
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Jay
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Anyone use AMI Enterprise III?
Date: 18 Aug 1993 23:40:14 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <24ueku$348@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1993Aug18.211852.4083@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Keywords: Motherboard AMI NS/FIP
In article <1993Aug18.211852.4083@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> lapj_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Rumplestiltskin) writes:
> As the subject says, does anyone use, or rather -successfully- use
>AMI's Enterprise III motherboard? And if so what peripherals are you
>using on it?
>
<munch>
>CD-ROM and skipping the filesystem check. Here's what I'm using:
>
> DPT 2022/95 EISA SCSI-II controller (floppy disabled, new firmware)
> Diamond Speedstart Plus 1Meg (ET4000)
> Toshiba 3401B CD-ROM (id1)
> Micropolis 2112 (id0)
> Logitech Mouseman (Serial)
> DTC EISA IDE controller w/ IDE disabled (only used for 3.5" floppy)
> 8Meg RAM
>
I am using an AMI Enterprise III with NS/I. The hardware is as follows:
DPT 2012/90 EISA SCSI controller, floppy disabled
DTC RLL hard/floppy drive controller (for floppy support only)
[NOTE: I have both 5.25" and 3.5" floppies connected simultaneously,
with no ill effects. NS/I works fine, DOS uses both.]
ATI GUP VLB card with 2 MB VRAM
NeXT CD-ROM (id6)
Seagate 41200N(?) - 1 GB SCSI drive (id0)
MouseSystems optical mouse in Microsoft mode, connected to COM1
32 MB RAM
There were 2 quirks that I had installing NS/I. Actually, there were more
than that, but the rest were user error ;)
1) I found it necessary to start the install with the machine powered
down, at which point I fully inserted the boot floppy and half-
inserted the CD-ROM. *As soon* as the Mach title displayed in the
white band at the top of the screen, I had to immediately eject the
boot floppy and insert the CD-ROM. Failure to do so resulted in the
install hanging at about the Registering fd0... point.
2) At some times after the install was progressing I would start getting
SCSI errors and SCSI bus resets, which would escalate to the point that
I would get a system panic. At first I thought this was a temperature-
dependent problem (and it may be), because if I left the machine turned
off for an extended period it would run successfully longer than if it
had been turned on for a while (a while being approximately 20 minutes).
The solution to this problem was to set the maximum transfer rate on
the DPT card to 5 MB/s rather than 10.
Diana
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Anyone use AMI Enterprise III?
Date: 19 Aug 1993 01:17:28 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <24ukb8$bjq@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <1993Aug18.211852.4083@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <24ueku$348@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Keywords: Motherboard AMI NS/FIP
In article <24ueku$348@tamsun.tamu.edu> I stupidly wrote:
>DPT 2012/90 EISA SCSI controller, floppy disabled
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
err, that should be no floppy control available
Diana
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Systems from Advance2000 and Continental
Message-ID: <1993Aug19.040605.16220@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <24tajr$59j@hermes.athena.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 04:06:05 GMT
In article <24tajr$59j@hermes.athena.com> dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
writes:
> In article <24s39g$go@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu
(Ramesh
> Dodamani) writes:
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > We are planning to buy a NEXTSTEP-Ready 486-66/EISA system and have
> > decided to get from one of Adavance200,Buffalo and Continental Systems,
> > Connecticut. I would like to know how their support and service is. If
> > anybody had any experience with these vendors, I would appreciate a
reply.
> >
>
> I had some SCO/XENIX experience with Continental Systems a few years back.
I
> was very disappointed. They were big on promises and small on delivery. I
> have never received all the items that I paid them for.
That's interesting. They appear to be blessed by NeXT, having
sold thousands of NEXTSTEP machines for big sites. The system
I checked out a few weeks ago was fine, although the ATI video
card displayed weird black lines in some video modes.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel GX simms usable on NSC?
Message-ID: <19316@news.duke.edu>
Date: 19 Aug 93 04:52:40 GMT
References: <1993Aug17.045407.17985@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
John Bartley (john@wpa.com) wrote:
: I've got a couple of 4MB simms that I removed from my Intel GX. Are these
: puppies likely to be usable in any way for either a NeXTstation Color or a
: NeXTstation Turbo? I've only got 16MB in both of those and I'd love to
: bump them up with this leftover 8MB. I'm no SIMM expert so I'm not sure
: whether it is even safe to experiment. Can I hurt anything by trying them?
I have two Intel GX 4MB simms running in my ColorStation right now.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Kurt D. Bollacker Duke University Medical Center +
+ kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu Durham, NC 27710 +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: New ambra line!
Message-ID: <1993Aug18.173849.19116@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <24s56d$hd8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 17:38:49 GMT
In article <24s56d$hd8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ddaniel@bard.MIT.EDU
(Daniel E. Bromberg) writes:
> Potential NS/FIP users:
> I'm in love with the new Ambra line of PCs, put out by a "subsidiary" of
> IBM! Their prices are quite competetive with discount vendors like
> Gateway...AND the new "Blue lightning" line of processors come with a
> larger (16 KB) cache, increasing speed by a MIP.
The bad news is the the Blue Lightning chips don't have a FPU and
therefore don't run NEXTSTEP. Ambra does sell some nice machines with
Intel processors that do run NEXTSTEP.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NeXTConnection???
Message-ID: <1993Aug19.004956.20023@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <24toc8$4q7@darum.uni-mannheim.de>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 00:49:56 GMT
In article <24toc8$4q7@darum.uni-mannheim.de>
weiss@pinfo100.informatik.uni-mannheim.de (Michael Weiss) writes:
> Can anyone give me a pointer on how to contact NeXTConnection?
9 Mill Street
Marlow, NH 03456
800-800-NeXT
603-446-7771
603-446-7926 fax
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: corey@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Contractor - John Corey)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 18:36:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Routers
Message-ID: <71670004@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
References: <1993Aug4.210530.6071@weston.com>
PSI in Reston VA resells the device. They have had package pricing
where if you sign up for their internet feed service, they discount
the nethopper (last time you bought 6 months of service and the
nethopper was $699.00. Depending on the market area you are in,
PSI is either high or right in there for pricing.
I happen to like them because I move my equipment between to locations
(700 miles apart) and with PSI I can get on to the local POP with no
change in service.
Baker
baker@tciltd.com
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Systems from Advance2000 and Continental
Date: 19 Aug 1993 13:17:28 GMT
Organization: Athena Design, Inc.
Message-ID: <24vuh8$e10@hermes.athena.com>
References: <1993Aug19.040605.16220@cs.yale.edu>
In article <1993Aug19.040605.16220@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> >
> > I had some SCO/XENIX experience with Continental Systems a few years back.
> I
> > was very disappointed. They were big on promises and small on delivery. I
> > have never received all the items that I paid them for.
>
> That's interesting. They appear to be blessed by NeXT, having
> sold thousands of NEXTSTEP machines for big sites. The system
> I checked out a few weeks ago was fine, although the ATI video
> card displayed weird black lines in some video modes.
>
I was going through some old notes last night and it turns out that I had
another set of dealings with Continental. I had bought a high-performance
serial board for the SCO system. My local dealer had to order through
Continental. Continental substituted some "generic" connectors for the ones
that we ordered. It turns out that the generic connectors where not the same
and it took me 3 days of debugging my modem rack to discover the problem. The
folks at Continental couldn't figure out why I was so upset at their
un-announced substitution.
Sigh.
David
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New ambra line!
Date: 19 Aug 1993 14:06:22 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2501cu$q3a@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
References: <1993Aug18.173849.19116@BlueRose.com>
In article <1993Aug18.173849.19116@BlueRose.com> m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
writes:
> The bad news is the the Blue Lightning chips don't have a FPU and
> therefore don't run NEXTSTEP. Ambra does sell some nice machines with
> Intel processors that do run NEXTSTEP.
>
Could you tell us which models? Will then run NEXTSTEP out of the box?
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple CD drive on NeXTStation?
Date: 17 Aug 1993 15:56:25 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Message-ID: <24qv39$a0i@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
> Will an Apple CD ROM drive work on a NeXTStation? Specifically, an
> AppleCD 150 or 300? Anyone have any first-person experience with this?
>
> Luke.Ward@vtssi.vt.edu, lukew@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu,
I have briefly used the AppleCD 150 on my NeXTstation. I could not get it
to play audio CD ROMS but I was able to mount the NeXT Education Sampler
disk without any problems.
Craig Rasmussen
University of Michigan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: panic: during NSFIP-Installation, Please Help
Message-ID: <Aug17.174233.62299@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 17:42:33 GMT
References: <24qhua$uuk@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
> I used an ADAPTEC 1542B (1542C) with floppy-controler disabled
> and a SCSII-Harddisk (ID0) and a SCII-CD-Rom (ID1) both
> connected to the internal SCSII-Port. The Harddisk is new
> (unformatted). The floppy is connected to an ISA-controler (IDE
> disabled)
>
> The boot process looks like this:
> ...
> rootdev 608, howto 0
> panic: (cpu0) vfs_mountroot cannot mount root
> ...
>
> ANY HINTS ? ? ? ?
From NeXTanswers #1108 - Adaptec 1542C:
"Some users have reported problems during the installation
process if the CD-ROM drive's SCSI ID is set to zero. The error
message will be "rootdev 608." Changing the SCSI ID has
frequently fixed the problem. Setting the CD-ROM drive's SCSI ID
to six has fixed the problem when nothing else seemed to work."
Hope this helps!
--
Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation
Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
| ... couldn't have been ME
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: scanners for black and white hardware
Date: 17 Aug 1993 18:06:14 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - College of Literature, Science, and TheArts
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <24r6mm$f2v@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
I'm thinking about getting a scanner (probably color, maybe mono). I want it to
work on my current black hardware, but I also want an upgrade path to white
hardware. What do people recommend?
--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364 Dept of Economics
fax: 313-764-2364 Univ of Michigan
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: Cannon Color Laser Copiers...Anyone?
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.183422.454@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <1993Aug16.122230.71259@cc.usu.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 18:34:22 GMT
In article <1993Aug16.122230.71259@cc.usu.edu> slv0y@cc.usu.edu writes:
> Is anyone using a Cannon Color Laser Copier with their Next machines? We are
> looking into getting one and I was looking for experiences, comments etc.
> Also, I have yet to get ahold of anyone at Cannon that even knows what they
> are, so any phone numbers would also be helpful. I have used the following:
> 1-800-423-2366 & 1-516-488-6700. All they seem to know about is bubble jet
> printers.
>
> Can the Next RIP for the Cannon or do you need one of the Fiery RIPs?
Our printer driver DOTS supports scanning and printing on the Canon CLC 300 and
500 Color Laser Copiers.
DOTS uses NEXTSTEP Display PostScript to produce the image on the NeXT machine
and sends it thru SCSI to the Canon IPU, which functions as an interface to the
Copier.
Canon offers different sorts of IPUs. Some of those have PostScript build in.
But those are very expensive. With DOTS producing the PostScript image on the
NeXT, you can save a lot of money and stick with the more affordable IPU-10,
which is a non-PostScript IPU.
In order to be able to print out A3 sized documents in full colour, you need at
least 48MB of RAM on the IPU. And you should have a minimum of 32 MB RAM in
your NeXT system.
NOTE: If you want to use an Intel-Hardware, you must buy a separate PostScript
output license from NeXT or Adobe. This is included in the price of the
original NeXT Hardware. Also some Intel SCSI adapters, like the Adaptec won't
work with the Canon IPUs.
A demo version of DOTS is available from our US distributor Alembic, Englewood,
Colorado. We're also planning to put the demo on various archives next week.
d'ART Software GmbH
Virchowstrasse 17-19
22767 Hamburg
Germany
(++49) 40-38023-0
(++49) 40-38023-290 fax
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From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Subject: Re: COMPAQ SIMMS memory question
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.192901.1972@cc.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: College of Computing
References: <1993Aug16.152322.18630@cc.gatech.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 19:29:01 GMT
Thanks for people who gave me a solution for that
problem. It worked and having 26meg is far better
than 16 !
JM
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do I set up ND board?
Date: 17 Aug 1993 22:12:42 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <24raja$fd2@cc.tut.fi>
References: <24m21d$f15@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <1993Aug16.212408.71291@cc.usu.edu> <abellCBw712.HM7@netcom.com>
In article <abellCBw712.HM7@netcom.com> abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell) writes:
>As a matter of fact, Alex's board *isn't* dead, but is now up and
>running, making beautiful graphics.
So, what was the problem? Btw, why doesn't it work on a 030 cube?
I read that ND requires 040 to operate, why?
--
Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks
Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: CD-ROM for Turbo and Intel
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 21:31:48 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.213148.7575@cyantic.com>
Can anyone verify whether the Toshiba 3401E CD-ROM Reader will work with
NeXT HW and with Intel HW. If not, what works and with both platforms?
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: RE: Another NS/FIP success story ... NOT!!!!
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.203829.27373@radical2.radical.com>
Keywords: next nextstep intel
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 20:38:29 GMT
RE: Another NS/FIP success story ... NOT!!!!
I've received several e-mail responses to my initial post about my NS/FIP
installation problem. Several of you suggested physically disconnecting the
5.25" floppy drive and disabling it in the BIOS. I tried it and nothing
changed. This is still as far as the install gets:
NeXT Mach Operating System
NeXT Mach 3.1: Thu Apr 29 23:44:40 PDT 1993;
root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-149.22.3.obj~2/RELEASE_I386
physical memory = 8.00 megabytes.
using 20 buffers containing 0.15 megabytes of memory
available memory = 5.64 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 2d3
ISA bus
Warning: Using internal backup device configuration tables
PCPointer Probe: mouseInit failure
Registering: PCKeyboard0
AT THIS POINT THE FLOPPY DRIVE LIGHT STAYS LIT AND THE BOOT DISK JUST
SPINS AND SPINS AND SPINS ...
Keep those bits and bytes coming.
Thanks to all who have responded thus far.
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual
or traditional: EXTREME
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/I ISA graphics
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.153406.9110@Princeton.EDU>
Date: 17 Aug 93 15:34:06 GMT
References: <24peseINN2dc@gap.caltech.edu>
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster
In article <24peseINN2dc@gap.caltech.edu> jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C.
Stevenson) writes:
> So, as it stands now, three months after release, it is very
> difficult, if not impossible, to get high resolution 2-bit
> grayscale on a ISA machine, even though NeXT says you can.
> If you have any better info, or know how to set an
> internal register, please, please, let me know.
I've tested the vesa localbus version of the "Lexar 1400" (which uses
the Tseng Labs chip set. I'll find out if there is an ISA-only
version of this card, and post anything I find out. (Lexar can be
reached at: 609-890-9000 (ask for Page Douglas, ext. 12).
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Diskless NeXT stations?
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.212815.29387@Princeton.EDU>
Date: 17 Aug 93 21:28:15 GMT
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In article <1993Aug15.215407.1898@dksoft.incom.de> dirk@incom.de (Dirk Koeppen)
writes:
> M Carling writes
> > In article <CBrLzJ.KqB@ucdavis.edu> kerchen@k2.cs.ucdavis.edu (Paul
> > Kerchen) writes:
> > > I'm interested in running a few NeXT machines (486's) from a
> > > centralized server & I'd like to know if it's possible for them to be
> > > diskless. Or, alternatively, is it possible to load the "NeXT
> > > terminals" with small HD's (for swap space, etc) but keep the bulk of
> > > NeXTSTEP on a common server?
> >
> > For performance and security reasons, it is a bad idea. I believe that on
> > white hardware, you will need 3.2 to do it anyway.
>
> We developed a PROM which does diskless boot on TCP/IP for DOS and some UNIX
> boxes. So far we have no NeXT support for it. I wrote to NeXT but they
> did not answer yet. Maybe somebody hears me know.
>
> ciao,
> dirk
>
>
> --
> Dirk Koeppen * Holzwiesenweg 22 * D-63073 Offenbach * Germany
> Phone: +49 69 89 3000 * FAX: +49 69 89 3004 * email: dirk@incom.de
A number of vendors will sell your PROMs that fit on most PC ethernet cards (we
got ours from Lanworks -- it works with SMC and Intel cards) and that support
bootp. The problem is not with bootp, however; the problem is with the design
of the Intel NextStep kernel. This is what Next told me when I asked if it was
possible to boot an Intel Next over the network.
At boot time, the kernel wants to figure out what kind of devices you have on
your Intel box (with ISA-bus machines, you can't get that information from the
hardware). The kernel gets this information by reading a hard-coded file from
the "hard disk" --- specifically, it uses the basic PC bios to read from
whatever disk is available on the machine. If you haven't got a disk, you're
out of luck. I was told the kernel would have to be re-designed to support
bootp. Apparently, it's a very low priority with Next. They said something
about looking into it after 3.2 was out, if there was enough demand.
Serge J. Goldstein
Next SysAdmin
Princeton University CIT
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From: nessus@media.mit.edu (Douglas Alan)
Subject: TRANSFER ERROR
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My /usr/adm/messages error log is getting filled up with messages
something like this (from memory, so this isn't exact):
sd0: TRANSFER ERROR, expected 8192 bytes, received 0 bytes
So, apparently something is wrong with my SCSI bus, or there is some
sort of incompatability between my disk drive and my SCSI controller
(it's an Adaptec).
Strangely enough, the system works fine, except for being unbelievably
slow. I thought the slowness problem was due to only having 8
megabytes of memory, but one day it worked at a sort of acceptable
rate of annoying sluggishness for a while, and then after a while went
back to being unbelievably slow again. This led me to believe that
poerhaps this weird SCSI disk error is dragging things way down.
Does anyone know how I might fix this?
|>oug /\lan
<nessus@mit.edu>
P.S. Another question: NeXTstep doesn't seem to understand my ET4000
card, so I've been using it in VGA mode. If I tell NeXTstep to try to
use SVGA, it sort of works, but the monitor can't sync to whatever
NeXTstep is trying to do. Does anyone know of a fix for this?
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From: van@group1.com (Van Bagnol)
Subject: Appletalk/Localtalk with NS/FIP?
Organization: Group One Ltd.; San Francisco, CA
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 00:44:41 GMT
Message-ID: <CBxJEI.FJ5@group1.com>
Summary: Anyone connect Locatalk to NS?
Keywords: AppleTalk LocalTalk NeXTStep Intel
Has anyone successfully connected an Intel NeXT machine to a Macintosh
Appletalk network? Specifically, has anyone gotten a LocalTalk card (not
Ethernet) installed on a white NeXT box? Are there Appletalk drivers
available for NS/FIP 3.1?
I am considering ways to connect (1) a NeXT machine (not purchased yet),
(2) my Mac IIci, and (possibly) (3) my HP DeskWriter at home. I'm not so
sure about the DeskWriter, although I've heard that someone has written
something to get the NeXT to print to a HP DeskJet.
Thanks,
Van
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From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do I set up ND board? (The Answer)
Date: 18 Aug 1993 02:01:41 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
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In article <24m21d$f15@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu(Alex Currier) writes:
>
> I just bought an ND board with 8MB of RAM and a 21" monitor but received
> no documentation at all. I placed the ND board in the inside slot
> opposite the main board and powered up the system but I get a message at
> the end of the boot process: Aug 15 12:53:46 monolith mach:
> NeXTdimension Board in Slot 4 failed to reset.
>
> Does anyone know what is up? Am I doing something wrong or do I need to
> load additional software?
>
> When I run the preferences app and select the double monitor icon I get
> a split second flash of something and then it says Not Applicable.
Many thanks to the numerous responses I received for this question.
Particular thanks to Sam Goldberger for taking time out to answer my pesky
questions. This problem has been solved.
First off, the ND board goes in Slot 2. That's the slot closest to the
power supply on the left side if yu're looking into the open back of the
cube. Secondly (and more to the point), there must be at least four SIMMS
present on the ND board for it to function. I was unaware of this and
after buying two more SIMMS and placing them on the board I installed the
ND and powered up the system and it worked immediately and perfectly (and
boy does it look good!). By the way, the SIMMS should be placed in the
slots on the leading edge first as opposed to the slots closer to the
center of the board.
Well, everything works fine now and I hope these bits of information might
be useful to someone else as they were to me. Once again I thank the
people who took the time and effort to help with my problem and make warm,
happy sounds at the NeXT community at large (a NeXT user's greatest
resource).
--
====================================
Alex Currier
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Multiple Architecture NeXTSTEP User
NeXTmail preferred!
====================================
From: ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Dodamani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Systems from Advance2000 and Continental
Date: 18 Aug 1993 02:14:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <24s39g$go@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello
We are planning to buy a NEXTSTEP-Ready 486-66/EISA system and have
decided to get from one of Adavance200,Buffalo and Continental Systems,
Connecticut. I would like to know how their support and service is. If
anybody had any experience with these vendors, I would appreciate a reply.
Thanks in advance
Ramesh
rxd20@po.cwru.edu
From: ddaniel@bard.MIT.EDU (Daniel E. Bromberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New ambra line!
Date: 18 Aug 1993 02:46:37 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <24s56d$hd8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Keywords: Ambra IBM
Potential NS/FIP users:
I'm in love with the new Ambra line of PCs, put out by a "subsidiary" of
IBM! Their prices are quite competetive with discount vendors like
Gateway...AND the new "Blue lightning" line of processors come with a
larger (16 KB) cache, increasing speed by a MIP.
Example:
Model D466Bl
486 Blue lighting DX/66
Pentium ready
8MB RAM
256KB processor cache
3.5" floppy
240MB HD
Onboard SCSi
2 VESA slots
video card w/ 1MB
15" flat square monitor, NI
network-ready (ethernet 10BaseT)
Desktop case
5 16 bit ISA slots
MS-DOS, windows, mouse
$1979 + shipping
or...custom configurable with a variety of options
(1-800-25AMBRA, open til 9PM on weekdays)
Not bad, eh? Now, the question is, does anyone know about possible plans
NeXT might have to support this baby or have any compatibility info
already? It seems like a key major player product that NeXT could support
out of the box. There's a version with CD-ROM installed, so NeXT should
feel obligated to support the onboard SCSI, CD-ROM, and various
controllers the way IBM ships it. It would probably help their marketshare
a lot. Major companies already do a lot of business with IBM. Anyways, any
and all info would be appreciated and I'll post a summary.
Discussion/comments are encouraged!
Excitedly,
Daniel Bromberg
ddaniel@athena.mit.edu
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From: edasque@cubx.com (Eric Dasque)
Subject: a Pentium story, Pentium sorry
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.123904.3606@cubx.com>
Keywords: DELL 4560/XE, Pentium, NEXTSTEP/FIP, for Pentium ?
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Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 12:39:04 GMT
******************************************************
* a Pentium story, Pentium Sorry *
******************************************************
Dear All,
recently at Cub'x Systemes, France, we have received a Dell 4560/XE.
This nice looking 4-wheeled fridge-box Pentium system came with :
a 60 MHz Intel Pentium (mounted on a daughter-board filled with
ugly green straps, daughter-board which itself fits "nicely" in a
Dell 40xx/XE type 486 processor socket.)
32 Mb of RAM (expandable to 128 Mb, we'll get to that point later...)
a 128Ko secondary Cache
an EISA bus (w/ 8 connectors, includ. 2 slaves)
an S3-805 integrated "local-bus" video adapter (1 Mb of Video RAM)
a 3.5" FD
2 serial ports (16550 series) + 1 // port
a mouse, keyboard, Dell 21" Monitor, etc etc...
a big and somewhat ugly box.
NEXTSTEP almost installed free of problems. We'll get to the problem in a
bit.
We have successfully installed NEXTSTEP with
the Adaptec 1542C ISA.
the DPT 2012B/90 EISA.
the BUSLOGIC 747S EISA.
1) a Hard-Drive Story
Using a 2.8 Gb (formatted capacity) Full-Height 5.25" Micropolis was a
no-no.Build-Disk reported -1213 Mb for that same Disk (YES MINUS 1213 Mb)
MS/DOS (best of 4-5 tries) reported and formatted 2400 Mb
NEXTSTEP would (best of 10-15 tries) itself format only 900 Mb.
Then we've heard from Paul Nordstrom (NP Consulting, paul@np.com)
the following :
> In what fashion and with what program have you
> partitioned your disk? Are you aware that NS only
> supports partitions <2Gb?
We had never thought that such limitation could even exist. Anyway, we
chose to go to two 1.74 Gb Full-Height 5.25" (formatted capacity) instead
of the big 2.8 Gb (I forgot to say that our client WANTED at least that HD
capacity). Those 2 disks didn't cause much problems. Actually, they caused
only one. You could easily fit two full-size cows in that huge clumsy box
but you'd have to cut them in half-height bays. When your FD is installed
there is no way you can fit in more than one full-height 5.25" disk. Here
comes the chainsaw !
2) a RAM & Video Story
Our client wanted 128 Mb of RAM (Don't ask me !). Everything was O.K. with
32 Mb (16 Mb in two of the 4 SIMMS slots) but as we filled the last two
with two 16 Mb SIMMS, NEXTSTEP went wild. As the window server was
launched, the screen would fill with random though undoubtedly beautiful
colors. The problem was simple to find but impossible to solve. The memory
location of the S3 board is situated 63Mb after the beginning of the Main
Memory address space. Which makes it impossible to install more than 63 Mb
of RAM in the 4560/XE, 56 Mb being the real-world maximum. Nothing could
be done with the ECU (EISA configuration utility) or the NEXTSTEP
Configure.app. We'll have to wait for the EISA QVision 1280 (which Compaq
will supposedly deliver in late August) to use more than 56 Mb of RAM.
3) a performance Story
Then came the real problem. Let's sum-up. NEXTSTEP is running, on the S3
video-adapter (both in 256 Grayscale & 4096 Colors), with two 1.7 Gb HDs
and one of our (ADAPTEC, DPT or BUSLOGIC). In a second, NXBench is copied
from my floppy to the /me/Apps directory and launched. And gives (to our
big surprise) a poor result of 30 MIPS with an NXBench of 0.63 (in
800x600x16 w/ 32 Mb of RAM).
Let me highlight this : 30 MIPS with a Pentium !!!
I only have one question : WHY ?
Ed.
--
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Cub'x Systemes only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease...
ed@cubx.com 'cause I am the Fox and I do what I want...
From: npratt@madmax.modsys (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cannon Color Laser Copiers...Anyone?
Date: 19 Aug 1993 14:54:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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References: <1993Aug16.122230.71259@cc.usu.edu>
In article 71259@cc.usu.edu, slv0y@cc.usu.edu () writes:
> Can the Next RIP for the Cannon or do you need one of the Fiery RIPs?
Alembic Systems sells a version of DOTS that allows the NeXT to do the
RIPping-- no need for the Fiery RIP.
Don't have their phone # handy.
Nevin
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From: kbacon@austin.onu.edu (C0d3 M0n$t3r)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP on a DX-50 with VLB for video
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Greg Shaw (gshaw@kralizec.zeta.org.au) wrote:
: Hi all,
: I am currently running NS/FIP on a 486DX-50 using the standard SVGA
: drivers. Yeah, its very congested and only in black and white (2-bit
: grey scale).
: The video card I am looking at is the ATI Graphics Ultra-Pro with 2MB.
: The story I have been getting is that video card manufacturers will not
: guarantee their cards performance at anything greater than a bus speed
: of 40Mhz. As VLB runs at the processor speed that means that my
: processor is too fast for the ATI card. Is this true and has anyone had
: any experience is getting a high-performance video card suitable for
: NS/FIP to work on a 486DX-50 with ISA and VLB buses.
I have been running a Local Bus ATI Graphics Ultra-Pro in my
486DX/50 EISA/VESA machine w/out any problems under NeXTSTEP. Granted
ALL the cards in the machine get pretty hot, but with a few fans and
lots of luck I won't roach anything...:)
: Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
: Greg Shaw.
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From: paul@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Paul Lansky)
Subject: slow ethernet problem
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We are testing an IntelGX, with an SMC EtherCard+ Elite16-combo.
We simply put it in the place of a 68k NeXT running on a local
network. Ethernet speeds between the black machines was in the
range of 300k to 500k bytes per second. With this machine and
card, however, I'm only getting 130k bytes per second. Nothing
else on the network has changed.
Can somebody tell me what to tweak to get these rates up. This
speed is totally unacceptable. Thanks
Paul Lansky
paul@princeton.edu
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From: kerchen@k2.cs.ucdavis.edu (Paul Kerchen)
Subject: NS/I on HP Vectra (Summary)
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 18:04:08 GMT
Here's a summary of what I received when I posted a request for
people's experiences w/NS/I on HP Vectras.
Here's my original post:
> I'd like to hear from anyone who has experience with NS/I on an HP
> Vectra. I've been charged with investigating whether or not the
> Vectra is a good platform for NS/I. So please, if you have any
> experiences (good or bad), I'd like to hear 'em. I'll post a summary
> if the response(s) is(are) useful.
Enjoy!
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 93 11:00:35 -0700
From: "Ivan F. Crespo" <crespo@hpvclo.vcd.hp.com>
I am running NS/I on a Vectra 66ST with an Adaptec 1542C SCCI
controller and the ATI graphics ultra pro EISA and it runs great.
HP is just in the middle of introducing some new Vectras that have a
lot of nice features. I'm not familiar with the new models so I would
recommend that you check with your local sales rep, he should be give
you some info on the Vectra line and NeXT should be able to tell you
how they will perform with NS/I
------------------------------------------------------------------
Ivan F. Crespo Tel: (206) 944-2815
email: crespo@vcd.hp.com
usmail: Hewlett Packard
P.O. Box 8906
Vancouver, WA 98684
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 08:01:26 -0500
From: tshelton@il.us.swissbank.com (Ted Shelton)
I am responsible for NeXT engineering projects within Swiss Bank Corp. We have been extensively testing the HP product line
(amongst others). The machine that I have been happiest with is the HP XM -- a 66 Mhz 486 with local bus video (S3 928) and
local bus ethernet (not yet supported by NEXTSTEP).
In overall testing the HP XM ranked first for most performance benchmarks when compared to a NeXTstation Turbo, a Dell
DGX, an Epson Progression, and an old HP Vectra 66u. CPU performance was tested at as much as 160% of the performance
as a NeXTstation Turbo.
Two major drawbacks, however, are the video performance and the expansion capabilities. First on video performance, the
XM's S3 928 local bus video is better than the ATI local bus video but much worse than the Dell DGX and the Epson Wingine.
In performance benchmarks the HP XM ran at between 50% - 100% slower than a NeXT Color Turbo whereas the Dell DGX,
running at the full resolution, ran between 10-15% faster than the NeXT Color Turbo.
Secondly, HP made the decision to build their new line of Vectra's with only an ISA bus. Their rational for this decision was that
the video and ethernet were now on the localbus so the two subsystems most in need of EISA bus speeds now were built into
the system -- so they might as well save money and just put an ISA bus into the machine. This would be OK except that they
selected a 16 bit chipset for their localbus ethernet implementation. So there is now no way to provide the system with a high
performance network option...
------------------------------------
That's it!
| "Disembodied gutteral noise need not make sense" |
| Paul Kerchen |
| kerchen@cs.ucdavis.edu |
From: mjl@squid.jpl.nasa.gov (Mark J Lysek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Any experience with Data General Dasher II running nextstep
Date: 19 Aug 1993 18:51:21 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA
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Keywords: NextStep
Does anyone have any experience with the Data General Dasher II
486DX2/66LE2. Our proposed configuration has:
36Mb memory, 128 Kb cache
"High performance" EISA SCSI controller
520Mb SCSI drive
ATI68800 local bus video card w/2Mb RAM
3COM 3C579-TP EISA etherlink III ethernet adapter
CD-ROM drive
NEC model 5FG or 6FG color monitor
Any good/bad experiences with Data General? We might buy six of these.
We need 6 slots, otherwise the Lucky Goldstar would be our
first choice based on price. (The floppy controller on the LG is on the
IDE card, taking up an extra slot.)
Mark Lysek, Jet Propulsion Laboratory
email: mjl@squid.jpl.nasa.gov
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple CD drive on NeXTStation?
Message-ID: <70531@mimsy.umd.edu>
Date: 19 Aug 93 19:12:58 GMT
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Luke.Ward@vtssi.vt.edu, lukew@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu,
> Will an Apple CD ROM drive work on a NeXTStation? Specifically, an
> AppleCD 150 or 300? Anyone have any first-person experience with this?
An AppleCD 300 works fine with a NeXTStation Turbo, audio, photo CDs and all.
I'ld spend the extra dollars for the 300 to get double speed, multi-session
for photo CDs.
--
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard,
the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: npratt@madmax.modsys (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple CD drive on NeXTStation?
Date: 19 Aug 1993 19:55:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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In article a0i@zip.eecs.umich.edu, rasmussn@jupiter.eecs.umich.edu (Craig E Rasmussen) writes:
>
> > Will an Apple CD ROM drive work on a NeXTStation? Specifically, an
> > AppleCD 150 or 300? Anyone have any first-person experience with this?
> I have briefly used the AppleCD 150 on my NeXTstation. I could not get it
> to play audio CD ROMS but I was able to mount the NeXT Education Sampler
> disk without any problems.
>
> Craig Rasmussen
I have (basically) the same experience to report as Craig.
I have used an AppleCD 150 on a NeXT cube. Everything worked but
audio CD's.
I currently have an AppleCD 300 on my NeXTSTEP/Intel clone system.
Everything works, *including* audio CD's.
Nevin
From: npratt@madmax.modsys (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-ROM for Turbo and Intel
Date: 19 Aug 1993 21:29:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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References: <1993Aug17.213148.7575@cyantic.com>
In article 7575@cyantic.com, mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes:
> Can anyone verify whether the Toshiba 3401E CD-ROM Reader will work with
> NeXT HW and with Intel HW. If not, what works and with both platforms?
> --
>
> Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048
> 101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
> Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
A friend of mine recently purchased a Toshiba 3401 (>$525) for his NS/FIP
clone system. Works fine on his clone (w/ Adaptec 1542C) , except for the
audio-CD's.
Can't vouch for black hardware, though, but I bet it works.
Also, can't guarantee that it was an 'E' (3401E) model. Is there anything
else but the 'E' model 3401?
Nevin
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From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: New ambra line!
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 20:35:16 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug19.203516.14729@bilver.uucp>
Keywords: Ambra IBM
References: <24s56d$hd8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <24s56d$hd8@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ddaniel@bard.MIT.EDU (Daniel E. Bromberg) writes:
>Potential NS/FIP users:
>I'm in love with the new Ambra line of PCs, put out by a "subsidiary" of
>IBM! Their prices are quite competetive with discount vendors like
>Gateway...AND the new "Blue lightning" line of processors come with a
>larger (16 KB) cache, increasing speed by a MIP.
>
>Example:
>Model D466Bl
>486 Blue lighting DX/66
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Take a look again. There is NO SUCH ANIMAL.
There are 486 Blue Lightnings that run at 66 Mhz. They also have
machines that are 486SLCs, 486SX, 486DX and 486DX-2.
But the Blue Lightning is NOT a 486 DX chip. From what I understood
in conversation with some IBM'er a couple of weeks ago (and I may be
wrong, but I don't think so), the Blue LIghting is very similar in
concept to the 486SX. In other words, there is NO FPU in the chip. It
does many things a true 486 does, more than the 486SX chips, but not all
of the things the 486DX does. TO run NS/FIP you'd have to have an FPU
in there - and if it's like some of the other lower end machines that
may not be able to be added.
I'm getting more information from them - but so far the initial specs
look really impressive.
--
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.uucp OR bill@bilver.oau.org
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From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Systems from Advance2000 and Continental
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 20:42:39 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug19.204239.14972@bilver.uucp>
References: <24s39g$go@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <24tajr$59j@hermes.athena.com>
In article <24tajr$59j@hermes.athena.com> dpp@athena.com (David Pollak) writes:
>In article <24s39g$go@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh
>Dodamani) writes:
>>
>> Hello
>> We are planning to buy a NEXTSTEP-Ready 486-66/EISA system and have
>> decided to get from one of Adavance200,Buffalo and Continental Systems,
>> Connecticut. I would like to know how their support and service is. If
>> anybody had any experience with these vendors, I would appreciate a reply.
>>
>I had some SCO/XENIX experience with Continental Systems a few years back. I
>was very disappointed. They were big on promises and small on delivery. I
>have never received all the items that I paid them for.
And I had the opposite experience. I had a full SCO Unix
system drop shipped to the client site. Everything was there.
Ran out of the box. 24 ports, striped array, tape bu. They
asked me how I wanted the system partitioned before they
shipped it, and software - except two aps, was installed and
tested before shipping.
Had a minor problem when loading some of the additional software as
a driver was changed. Tech support had me running in under 15 minutes.
The support was good at that time. This was April '92.
--
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.uucp OR bill@bilver.oau.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wave@pixar.com (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: 3d boards for white hardware?
Message-ID: <1993Aug20.001651.23697@pixar.com>
Sender: news@pixar.com (Usenet Newsmaster)
Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California
References: <BWH.93Aug18183436@beach.cis.ufl.edu>
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 00:16:51 GMT
In article <BWH.93Aug18183436@beach.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu
(Brian Hook) writes:
>
> Are there 3d coprocessing boards available for the white hardware
NS/FIP?
Uh, no. I would never expect to see a 3d coprocessing board for NeXTSTEP,
not for a looonnggg time. Not even on NeXTSTEP/HP. NeXTSTEP is (rightly)
surfing the processor curve, not the coprocessor one.
--
--> Michael B. Johnson -- wave@media.mit.edu, wave@pixar.com
--> MIT Media Lab -- Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> P*I*X*A*R -- IceMan Group (for the summer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Bad Power Supplies
Message-ID: <1993Aug19.204105.6248@nic.csu.net>
From: vqueved@nssnext.calstatela.edu (Victor Quevedo)
Date: 19 Aug 93 20:41:04 PDT
Keywords: bad power supplies
I have had 2 power supplies for NeXTstation Colors go out in the last
month. Has anyone else had problems with power supplies? With some or
most NeXT hardware coming out of warrenty, it would be nice to get an idea
if others users are having problems. Has anyone had power supply
problems? If so are you going to Bell Atlantic for fixes? If not, are
there any other companies that can fix power supplies? Any suggestions or
experiences fixing the power supplies?
-Victor Quevedo
vqueved@nssnext.calstatela.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: zippy@cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts)
Subject: Canon making NeXTstations?
Message-ID: <zippy.745820102@berry.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 04:15:02 GMT
I seem to recall that, in return for it's investment and printer
engine, NeXT gave Cannon the right to distribute NeXTstations in
Japan.
With NeXT out of the hardware market, I was wondering if Cannon is
manufacturing NeXTs?
--Pat
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Apple CD drive on NeXTStation?
Date: 20 Aug 1993 07:00:18 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <251sq2$ki@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <70531@mimsy.umd.edu>
alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> Luke.Ward@vtssi.vt.edu, lukew@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu,
> > Will an Apple CD ROM drive work on a NeXTStation? Specifically, an
> > AppleCD 150 or 300? Anyone have any first-person experience with this?
>
> An AppleCD 300 works fine with a NeXTStation Turbo, audio, photo CDs
> and all. I'd spend the extra dollars for the 300 to get double speed,
> multi-session for photo CDs.
Some people (including me) have had trouble with the processing of some
photo CD's on any double-speed CD-ROM drive, including the Apple CD300. In
my case I'm running on NeXTstations running NS-3.0, maybe it works fine on
turbo stations. Seems to me I also tried it on NS-3.1, but I'm not sure on
that. Maybe this problem goes away with NS-3.1 or NS-3.2. I haven't had
any trouble with the CD300 except for some photo CD's (and even then, it's
only on some photo images on the photo CD, it's not like the disc is
unreadable).
Also, for now at least, the multi-session capability doesn't help you out.
NeXTSTEP doesn't understand multi-session CD's, even if the drive does. My
understanding is that NeXTSTEP will support multi-session CD's in the future
(probably in NS-3.2, I imagine).
The CD300 is a pretty nice drive, and Apple's selling at a great price (at
least for educational users). I'd cautiously recommend getting the CD300
too, but thought I should mention the above caveats just so you know ahead
of time. I'm hoping that NS-3.2 clears all these things up.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: New ambra line!
Message-ID: <1993Aug19.170442.21565@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug18.151745.26190@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 17:04:42 GMT
In article <1993Aug18.151745.26190@Princeton.EDU>
gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
> One of IBM's competitors tells me that these [Ambra] are made by Acer in
> Taiwan. Can anyone confirm this?
Acer in San Jose, CA as I understand it.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Internet Service Providers (was: Routers)
Message-ID: <1993Aug19.171056.21624@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <71670004@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 17:10:56 GMT
In article <71670004@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> corey@hpcc01.corp.hp.com
(Contractor - John Corey) writes:
> Depending on the market area you are in,
> PSI is either high or right in there for pricing.
In the Bay Area, PSI charges $150/month flat fee for UUCP with mail and
news. Netcom charges $45/month flat fee. Pricing for direct IP connections
is also lower. I've used both and found Netcom to be more reliable, though
PSI's support is better. Netcom is now installing POPs nationwide.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: New ambra line!
Message-ID: <1993Aug19.195240.22080@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <2501cu$q3a@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1993 19:52:40 GMT
In article <2501cu$q3a@controversy.math.lsa.umich.edu>
Hal.Varian@umich.edu writes:
> Could you tell us which models? Will then run NEXTSTEP out of the box?
Ambra is presently working with NeXT on certification. Try calling
1-800-25AMBRA, and ask for Anthony in tech. support. Keep in mind that the
Blue Lightning processor will not run NEXTSTEP because it has no FPU.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Any experience with Data General Dasher II running nextstep
Message-ID: <1993Aug20.002124.22567@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <250i39$66m@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 00:21:24 GMT
In article <250i39$66m@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> mjl@squid.jpl.nasa.gov
(Mark J Lysek) writes:
> Does anyone have any experience with the Data General Dasher II
> 486DX2/66LE2. Our proposed configuration has:
>
> 36Mb memory, 128 Kb cache
> "High performance" EISA SCSI controller
> 520Mb SCSI drive
> ATI68800 local bus video card w/2Mb RAM
> 3COM 3C579-TP EISA etherlink III ethernet adapter
> CD-ROM drive
> NEC model 5FG or 6FG color monitor
I have run NEXTSTEP on one of these. It is a nice machine. Two caveats:
1) Make sure that the EISA controller is a DPT 2022.
2) A driver for the EISA ethernet adaptor hasn't been release quite yet.
For more on this machine, see my review of it in the October NeXTWorld.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: t89djo@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (David Jonsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Using the PAS SCSI
Date: 20 Aug 1993 09:58:20 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <25277t$av2@corax.udac.uu.se>
The Pro Audio Spectrum soundcard has the ability of SCSI (not boot SCSI).
Does anyone have experience in using this from the NS/FIP?
Do I have to write a new driver, I have the DOS drivers.
I am booting the system from an IDE drive.
I have the opporunity to use the PAS-SCSI from DOS running inside NS but it
is very unpractical.
Davi
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Printer problem
Date: 20 Aug 1993 15:19:20 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Message-ID: <252q1oINNc24@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
For the past several weeks, my NeXT Printer has been producing "dirty"
output. Whenever a particularly black section is printed, a "shadow" is
printed farther down the page. This shadow is darker when printing on thicker
stock like envelopes.
It turns out that the shadow results from toner that remains on the drum for
some reason rather than all being transferred to the paper or being scavenged
off the drum before the next drum revolution. I can remove the cartridge and
carefully clean the drum, but the next time I print, the problem returns.
Although I have owned the Printer for a little over 3 years, I am still
using the original cartridge so the Printer doesn't get much use. I have
cleaned everything inside the printer as directed in the NEXTSTEP 2.0 docs to
no avail. I would really appreciate any suggestions about how to solve this
problem.
Thanks for your help.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: (408)335-2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM for Turbo and Intel
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 16:18:27 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug20.161827.17796@cyantic.com>
References: <1993Aug17.213148.7575@cyantic.com> <250rcb$qnm@cnn.sim.es.com>
In article <250rcb$qnm@cnn.sim.es.com> npratt@madmax.modsys writes:
>In article 7575@cyantic.com, mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes:
>> Can anyone verify whether the Toshiba 3401E CD-ROM Reader will work with
>> NeXT HW and with Intel HW. If not, what works and with both platforms?
>> --
>
>A friend of mine recently purchased a Toshiba 3401 (>$525) for his NS/FIP
>clone system. Works fine on his clone (w/ Adaptec 1542C) , except for the
>audio-CD's.
>
>Can't vouch for black hardware, though, but I bet it works.
>
>Also, can't guarantee that it was an 'E' (3401E) model. Is there anything
>else but the 'E' model 3401?
>
I have obtained a Toshiba XM3401B for evaluation and it works fine for data
and audio CDs on black HW. It also works fine on a DOS box. I hope to get
my hands on a Photo-CD and software to test it in that mode before I have
to give it back.
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: scsi boxes
Date: 20 Aug 1993 17:31:07 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2531orINNc2r@gap.caltech.edu>
I'm looking for a cheap, black, half-height 5.25" SCSI enclosure with
power supply. Any suggestions?
Mark Adler
madler@cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: zazula@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (Ralph Zazula)
Subject: Re: Another NS/FIP success story... NOT!!!! (long)
Message-ID: <1993Aug17.212355.12491@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>
Keywords: next nextstep intel micronics gateway
Sender: zazula@pri.com (Ralph Zazula)
Organization: Pinnacle Research, Inc.
References: <1993Aug17.043806.22270@radical2.radical.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 21:23:55 GMT
In article <1993Aug17.043806.22270@radical2.radical.com> Ralph_Jung@radical.com writes:
>
>Another NS/FIP success story ... N O T !!!!
>
>AT THIS POINT THE FLOPPY DRIVE LIGHT STAYS LIT AND THE BOOT DISK JUST
>SPINS AND SPINS AND SPINS ...
>
>I've tried everything I've ever seen in this newsgroup. I've tried
>unplugging the keyboard. After the umpteenth time of that, the keyboard
>died! I've tried a generic non-programmable keyboard. I've tried yanking
>the floppy out at the Mach Banner. I've tried leaving the CD ROM out of
>the drive. I've tried every possible combination of settings in my BIOS.
>I've even tried to get a BIOS upgrade and there is none available.
>
>HERE'S A TYPICAL BIOS CONFIGURATION:
>
>Diskette B: 5.25 Inch, 1.2 MB Cyl Hd Pre LZ Sec Size
Hi -
This is probably a good place to start. Directly from Page 3 of the
installation manual, section "Floppy Disk Drives":
"...If you have additional floppy disk drives, or if your drive is connected
as drive B, discconect them and make sure only drive A is connected. Then
use your computer's setup program to disable all floppy disk drives exept
A."
I had the spinning floppy problem just last week and solved it by:
1 - disabling floppy B (a 5.25" floppy drive)
2 - ejecting the install floppy at the Mach banner
Hope this helps,
Ralph
---
Ralph Zazula
President
Pinnacle Research, Inc.
THE NEXTSTEP UTILITY LAB
zazula@pri.com
voice: (602)529-1135
fax: (602)529-0117 / (602)299-9133
From: pitakc@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Good place to buy the DPT 2022 EISA SCSI interface card.
Message-ID: <2534tt$8t0@ursula.ee.pdx.edu>
Date: 20 Aug 93 04:25:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: ursula.2534tt$8t0
Distribution: usa
Organization: Portland State University
I am shopping for a DPT 2022 EISA SCSI interface card. If you know a place/
places that has/have a good deal on it please let me know.
I read in this newsgroup sometime ago that it works with NEXTSTEP. Can someone
reconfirm this ? Is there any specific model on this 2022 series that works
best with NEXTSTEP ?
Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Pitak
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From: green@ids.net (Andy Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Unrecognized Kernel Format on Boot, Lockups
Date: 20 Aug 1993 21:20:16 GMT
Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service
Message-ID: <253f6g$162@paperboy.ids.net>
Hello! I'm wondering if you folks can help me out - I'm having a bit of a problem
with my 486/66 running Intel NextStep.
First problem; at the boot: prompt, if I let it timeout and boot on its own, it
gets to the point where it tries to read the first "InstanceTable0" or whatever,
and then it comes back and says unrecognized kernel format and returns to
the boot prompt. It will do this indefinitely. However, if I specifically type in
sd()mach_kernel
It boots fine. Looking in the config setups, the kernel is labeled/typed
correctly in the files. Any idea what this could be? It might be important to
note that I'm using a 1.4 Gig Hard Drive (SCSI) with the "mapping for drives
greater than 1 gigabyte" turned on.
The second problem has to do with the TCP/IP system - every once in a while,
say every 24 hours or sometimes 4 hours or whatever, the TCP/IP system will
just stop working, so that I can't telnet in or out and no other TCP/IP activity
works - although the system appears to be fine. Does anyone know what would
cause this? I'm using an Intel Ether Express 16 card.
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated...
Andy, green@ids.net
From: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Mixing 9bit and 8bit SIMMs?
Date: 20 Aug 93 17:29:33
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <GISLI.93Aug20172933@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
The FAQ says not to mix parity and non-parity SIMMs.
I just did and everything works like a charm.
My configuration:
NeXTstation (non-Turbo)
4 4Mb SIMMs 8bit
4 1Mb SIMMS 9bit
The machine boots normally and reports 2OMb RAM.
What's the deal. Am I in for a nasty shock one of these
days or is everything hunky dory?
Gisli
--
...............................................................................
Gisli Ottarsson
Delenda est Carthago. University of Michigan
gisli@engin.umich.edu
...............................................................................
From: telaydi@portnoy.lbl.gov. (Tarek Elaydi [ITG])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Empty socket on 030 Cubes
Date: 20 Aug 1993 23:13:03 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <253lpv$73h@overload.lbl.gov>
Keywords:
I was putting in some new RAM in my 030 Cube and noticed
that a Big chip socket next to the 68030 was empty. Is this
socket for some kind of upgrade to an 040 or what? Everything
else is there (68882, DSP, etc).
Tarek
telaydi@george.lbl.gov
From: telaydi@portnoy.lbl.gov. (Tarek Elaydi [ITG])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Empty socket on 030 Cubes?
Date: 20 Aug 1993 23:17:15 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <253m1r$73h@overload.lbl.gov>
I was installing some RAM in my 030 Cube and I noticed
that there was this big empty socket next to the 68030.
Does anyone know what this socket was meant for...upgrade?
Tarek
telaydi@george.lbl
From: wwille.hanse.de!wwille (Winfried Wille)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anyone a hint for using 2 motherboards in a cube without modifications of the backplane
Date: 20 Aug 1993 14:31:12 GMT
Organization: Terraprolls
Message-ID: <252n7g$r32@wwille.hanse.de>
Hi,
I want to insert a additional 6830'er cube Board into my 6840'er cube.
I have got the instructions to do it via a modification of the backplane,
but I want to leave the backplane intact.
I know some people have sucessfully modified the 6830'er board for that
purpose.
Has anyone a hint for me.
Thanks in advance
Winfried Wille
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: poirot@mickey.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel Poirot)
Subject: Re: Another NS/FIP success story ... YES!!
Message-ID: <1993Aug21.011143.14622@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
Keywords: next nextstep intel
Sender: usenet@aio.jsc.nasa.gov (USENET News Client)
Organization: NASA / Johnson Space Center
References: <1993Aug17.203829.27373@radical2.radical.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1993 01:11:43 GMT
In article <1993Aug17.203829.27373@radical2.radical.com> Ralph_Jung@radical.com writes:
>
>RE: Another NS/FIP success story ... NOT!!!!
>
>I've received several e-mail responses to my initial post about my NS/FIP
>installation problem. Several of you suggested physically disconnecting the
>5.25" floppy drive and disabling it in the BIOS. I tried it and nothing
>changed. This is still as far as the install gets:
>
>
> NeXT Mach Operating System
>NeXT Mach 3.1: Thu Apr 29 23:44:40 PDT 1993;
>root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-149.22.3.obj~2/RELEASE_I386
>physical memory = 8.00 megabytes.
>using 20 buffers containing 0.15 megabytes of memory
>available memory = 5.64 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 2d3
>ISA bus
>Warning: Using internal backup device configuration tables
>PCPointer Probe: mouseInit failure
>Registering: PCKeyboard0
>
>AT THIS POINT THE FLOPPY DRIVE LIGHT STAYS LIT AND THE BOOT DISK JUST
>SPINS AND SPINS AND SPINS ...
Why aren't the important things easy to find in the docs?
I spent ALL of yesterday doing the same thing. I am glad to say that I
have a working Next system running on an UNSUPPORTED 340 Meg ESDI
drive.
The docs say that the machine MUST ONLY HAVE ONE 3.5 FLOPPY AS DRIVE A!
The Next kernel apparently can't handle two drives.
The first thing to do is remove EVERYTHING except VGA, IDE (or ESDI)
and SCSI cards. The problem I was having was with the install
proceedure hanging after finding the hard drives and then the floppy
drives. There is a line in the loose pages of the Release notes that
says to EJECT the floppy after you first see the banner message:
NeXT Mach Operating System
That's what worked for me! I went through three different computers,
different hard disks, controller cards, and had all the cards spread
out all over the lab before I got this figured out.
Good Luck!
--
Daniel Poirot poirot@aio.jsc.nasa.gov
NASA JSC "The mind is a terrible thing."
ER3 tel: (713)483-8793
Houston, TX 77058 fax: (713)483-3204
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSFIP Intel P/GX Sound Driver Caution
Date: 21 Aug 1993 06:11:43 GMT
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- PUBLIC ACCESS UNIX
Message-ID: <254eav$jq4@inxs.concert.net>
This is just a warning to those who have or who are going to purchase
the Intel P/GX and wish to use the new Sound Driver released recently.
One of my customers received a P/GX with the DPT 2012B SCSI (EISA)
Controller...this card must be set to IRQ 15, which just happens to
be the same IRQ that the sound driver utilizes. They replaced the
DPT with the Adaptec 1542C and the problem was corrected and the on-board
sound functions flawlessly.
The problem seemed to emulate a "broken record" ad infinitum.
--
Advanced Business Systems - "A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller"
(919) 682-8553 [Voice], (919) 682-1126 [Facsimile ONLY]
Authorized Reseller: Intel P/GX, Digital MTE and MTE d2, HP Vectras,
Epson Progression, Goldstar's LG466NX and NCR's 3333 (All NSFIP-certified)
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Another NS/FIP success story ... YES!!
Date: 21 Aug 1993 06:31:58 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <254fgu$ras@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <1993Aug21.011143.14622@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
In article <1993Aug21.011143.14622@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
poirot@mickey.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel Poirot) writes:
> The docs say that the machine MUST ONLY HAVE ONE 3.5 FLOPPY AS DRIVE A!
> The Next kernel apparently can't handle two drives.
>
> The first thing to do is remove EVERYTHING except VGA, IDE (or ESDI)
> and SCSI cards. The problem I was having was with the install
> proceedure hanging after finding the hard drives and then the floppy
> drives. There is a line in the loose pages of the Release notes that
> says to EJECT the floppy after you first see the banner message:
> NeXT Mach Operating System
Hmmm, so much for reading the docs. I'm running NS on an ISA machine with two
3.5" floppy drives, CD-ROM and 1.2GB SCSI drive and it boots just fine. I
booted the machine from drive A and did the install off the CD-ROM with no
problems *without ejecting the floppy disk until I was told to by the
software*. If you want more details about my system I would be happy to give
them via email.
Apparently the NS/FIP install software gives entirely new dimensions to the
phrase "Your mileage may vary".
--
====================================
Alex Currier
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Multiple Architecture NeXTSTEP User
NeXTmail preferred!
====================================
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pop goes the NeXTstation
Date: 21 Aug 1993 11:25:27 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: inet
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References: <HUGH.93Aug6101228@ear.mit.edu> <24d4l6$36i@drdhh.hanse.de> <24i3j1$ib3@cc.tut.fi>
t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha) writes:
>In article <24d4l6$36i@drdhh.hanse.de> root@drdhh (Bjoern Kriews) writes:
>>I once had my station coming up with a grey screen and nothing else.
>>I had to remove the lithium cell for HOURS (yes, I shortened the
>>contacts on the board after taking it out) to bring it back to life.
>IMHO, removing the battery didn't help you.. Battery is needed to
I am pretty sure that this is what helped.
I have had many stations that had a grey screen on powerup and
taking out the battery, shorting the holder terminals, and replacing
it has almost always fixed it. I believe that the CMOS info is
getting corrupted and this restores it to factory settings.
Our hardware guy always tells me "if you have a machine that does
this too often, we'll swap the motherboard."
So, you might consider getting that station's motherboard replaced
if you're still under warranty.
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From: bobf@milne.geology.yale.edu (Bob Fischer)
Subject: Black mice
Message-ID: <1993Aug21.134458.19237@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1993 13:44:58 GMT
I have some black NeXT hardware, and feel its mouse is too heavy.
Therefore, I'd like to use a different mouse with it. What are the
mouse pinouts? How can I convert another mouse, like an Atari, Amiga
or Serial mouse, to work with the NeXT?
Thanks,
--- Bob
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adjusting brightness of B/W Megapixel display
Date: 21 Aug 1993 15:24:28 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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Keywords: display brightness
Hello hardware folks!
Has anyone an idea how to adjust the contrast and the brightness of a
black & white megapixel display? I know there has to be some circuit
which does the brightness adjustment because it can be done via software,
but I'm looking for a way to increase the basic brightness because the
maximum sometimes is not enough on sunny days... :-(.
I already checked the board of the monitor and found some controls
for other parameters such as H-SIZE and V-SIZE etc. There's one control
which has no label (it's located in the middle of the board), but I didn't
dare to try it...
Any hint would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Axel
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From: gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How do you remove Hard Drive from a Cube?
Date: 21 Aug 1993 17:01:50 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <255kdu$cg2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I am trying to replace the hard drive and the optical
drive from my cube. Unfortunately I do not have the
instructions on removing the center piece and removing
the drives. Could someone please tell me how to remove
the drives from the cube.
Thanks,
Greg
gregory@athena.mit.edu
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From: eht@cmu.edu (Eric Thayer)
Subject: Re: Empty socket on 030 Cubes?
Message-ID: <CC49Bx.H3s.3@cs.cmu.edu>
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Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
References: <253m1r$73h@overload.lbl.gov>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1993 15:50:20 GMT
In article <253m1r$73h@overload.lbl.gov> telaydi@portnoy.lbl.gov. (Tarek Elaydi
[ITG]) writes:
>
> I was installing some RAM in my 030 Cube and I noticed
> that there was this big empty socket next to the 68030.
> Does anyone know what this socket was meant for...upgrade?
Here's a case of the blind leading the blind, but I believe it was for the NBIC
chip (the bus interface chip).
For what it's worth,
..eric
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: NSFIP Intel P/GX Sound Driver Caution
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 21 Aug 93 11:01:27 PDT
Message-ID: <1993Aug21.110127.22805@crash>
References: <254eav$jq4@inxs.concert.net>
David B Briggman -- Personal Account (briggman@rock.concert.net) wrote:
: This is just a warning to those who have or who are going to purchase
: the Intel P/GX and wish to use the new Sound Driver released recently.
:
: One of my customers received a P/GX with the DPT 2012B SCSI (EISA)
: Controller...this card must be set to IRQ 15, which just happens to
: be the same IRQ that the sound driver utilizes. They replaced the
: DPT with the Adaptec 1542C and the problem was corrected and the on-board
: sound functions flawlessly.
:
: The problem seemed to emulate a "broken record" ad infinitum.
:
: --
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: Epson Progression, Goldstar's LG466NX and NCR's 3333 (All NSFIP-certified)
Oh? The Sound Driver was released? From NeXT? Officially? Was there
a notice sent to registered customers? I have an Intel P/GX and have been
eagerly awaiting the Sound Driver's release.
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: NSFIP Intel P/GX Sound Driver Caution
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 21 Aug 93 11:08:06 PDT
Message-ID: <1993Aug21.110806.23912@crash>
References: <1993Aug21.110127.22805@crash>
I checked ftp.next.com and could find no Sound Driver for Intel Pro/GX.
Where was this released?
From: UC512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu (David K. Drum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Line level audio > ??? > DSP > nice 16 bit sample
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 93 14:50:30 CDT
Organization: University of Missouri
Message-ID: <16C31D0B9.UC512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
What hardware is available for black NeXTs that will feed a line-level
input into the DSP for sampling? Sampling through the mic in on the
back of the Sound Box invariably . . . sucks.
Regards,
David K. Drum
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From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Subject: Re: COMPAQ SIMMS memory question
Message-ID: <1993Aug21.203941.13504@cc.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: College of Computing
References: <1993Aug16.152322.18630@cc.gatech.edu> <1993Aug17.192901.1972@cc.gatech.edu>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1993 20:39:41 GMT
!Thanks for people who gave me a solution for that
!problem. It worked and having 26meg is far better
!than 16 !
! JM
! debaud@cc.gatech.edu
Ok shoot me because I did not post the solution as
MANY people made me aware of.
All you ahve to do to solve that problem is to use the ECU
utility and set your memory map to 'linear non-compaq'.
Upon reboot everything else is fine.
JM
From: besler@gdss.commerce.ubc.ca (Steven Besler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Turbo Upgradeable to ADB?
Date: 22 Aug 1993 02:26:01 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <256lfp$jpo@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
I have a NeXTSTATION Turbo, it is non-ADB.
I remember something to the effect that if it is new enough,
i.e. after a certain serial number, that it could be upgraded
to ADB. I remember checking, and seeing that mine was new enough.
So can this still be done?
--
Steven K. Besler <besler@gdss.commerce.ubc.ca> (NeXTmail)
UBC 3.5th yr CS Coop Student & NeXTSTEP Application Developer
"Being the richest man in the cemetery doesn't matter to me.
Going to bed at night saying we've done something wonderful . . .
that's what matters to me." Steven P. Jobs CEO of NeXT, Inc.
From: wang@cteq11.msu.edu (Xiaoning Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: error code 91
Date: 22 Aug 1993 03:32:01 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <WANG.93Aug21233202@cteq11.msu.edu>
Hi,
I am trying to reboot the NextStation, but it says file systems fail, and give
an error code 91. What does this mean ? What should I do now ?
Thanks !
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Turbo Upgradeable to ADB?
Message-ID: <1993Aug22.183833.1300@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <256lfp$jpo@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 18:38:33 GMT
In article <256lfp$jpo@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> besler@gdss.commerce.ubc.ca (Steven
Besler) writes:
> I have a NeXTSTATION Turbo, it is non-ADB.
>
> I remember something to the effect that if it is new enough,
> i.e. after a certain serial number, that it could be upgraded
> to ADB. I remember checking, and seeing that mine was new enough.
Subject: I7. How to convert a Turbo system to use ADB?
[From: Brad_Sime@NeXT.COM (Brad Sime)]
If ADB equipment are used with older NeXT systems they won't work properly.
Here are the ADB requiments:
a) A Turbo computer.
b) CPU eprom version 74.
c) New revision computer to soundbox/monitor cable. The part
number is molded at both ends of the connector:
Cable NEW OLD (Non ADB)
NeXTcube 4534 150
NeXTstation 4535 1532
NeXTstation color 4536 2286
d) New revision monitor which uses a vertical scan rate of 72hz
instead of 68hz, except on NeXTdimension systems color monitor
stays 68hz.
Monitor NEW (72hz) OLD (68hz)
17" mono ACX (N4000b) AAA (N4000a & N4000)
17" color ADF (N4006) ABG (N4001)
21" color ADB (N4005a) ABH (N4005)
e) ADB soundbox for color sytems. S/N prefix ADD instead of ABN.
--
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Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: fitzy@twain.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Another NS/FIP success story ... YES!!
Date: 22 Aug 1993 19:05:29 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <258g1p$a55@nic.umass.edu>
References: <1993Aug17.203829.27373@radical2.radical.com> <1993Aug21.011143.14622@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
Daniel Poirot (poirot@mickey.jsc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: In article <1993Aug17.203829.27373@radical2.radical.com> Ralph_Jung@radical.com writes:
: >
: >RE: Another NS/FIP success story ... NOT!!!!
: >
: >I've received several e-mail responses to my initial post about my NS/FIP
: >installation problem. Several of you suggested physically disconnecting the
: >5.25" floppy drive and disabling it in the BIOS. I tried it and nothing
: >changed. This is still as far as the install gets:
: >
: >Warning: Using internal backup device configuration tables
: >PCPointer Probe: mouseInit failure
: >Registering: PCKeyboard0
: >
: >AT THIS POINT THE FLOPPY DRIVE LIGHT STAYS LIT AND THE BOOT DISK JUST
: >SPINS AND SPINS AND SPINS ...
As I think I mailed you...Your motherboard probably does not conform to the
PS/2 keyboard standard well enough to work. This is exactly what happens with
my Micronics EISA/VESA board...and Micronics claims the keyboard to be the
culprit.
: The docs say that the machine MUST ONLY HAVE ONE 3.5 FLOPPY AS DRIVE A!
: The Next kernel apparently can't handle two drives.
I have several machines up with a 3.5" a: drive and a 5.25" b: drive. The only
problem I had was during installation...I had some IO_REQUEST timeout errors.
After install...no problems.
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
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From: mhae@jester.stgt.sub.org (Michael Haeuptle)
Subject: NS/FIP with DPT 2022?
Message-ID: <1993Aug20.110733.614@jester.stgt.sub.org>
Sender: mhae@jester.stgt.sub.org
Organization: Blue NeXT
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 11:07:33 GMT
Has anybody successfully installed NeXTStep486 on a "CMC Micronics" Eisa board
(Phoenix BIOS from 12/12/91) and a DPT 2022 SCSI Cache Controller (without
Floppycontroller)?
If I set the interrupt of the DPT to "Edge 15", I get a "RDP exception 2 code d
subcode 1110000".
The other interrupt options result in a "Registering sc0" message and the
system hangs after that.
Any pointers are appreciated.
Michael
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From: fitzy@twain.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Another NS/FIP success story ... YES!!
Date: 22 Aug 1993 19:26:21 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
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References: <1993Aug17.203829.27373@radical2.radical.com> <1993Aug21.011143.14622@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> <258g1p$a55@nic.umass.edu>
JOSEPH E FITZGERALD (fitzy@twain.ucs.umass.edu) wrote:
:As I think I mailed you...Your motherboard probably does not conform to the
:PS/2 keyboard standard well enough to work. This is exactly what happens with
:my Micronics EISA/VESA board...and Micronics claims the keyboard to be the
:problem. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
make that: and Micronics claims the keyboard interface to be the problem...
Joe Fitzgerald
fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu
From: rling@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Ling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: FIP installation problem.
Date: 23 Aug 1993 00:50:57 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <25949h$rl7@news.u.washington.edu>
I'm trying to install NS/FIP on an ALR Evolution-V (Pentium) with
an IDE hard disk using an Adaptec 1542C and a NeXT CD-ROM drive.
The Adaptec is configured as suggested by the NeXTanswers document.
The hard disk is partitioned into a primary DOS partition and an
extended partition. The optical disk works fine under DOS.
The installation boot process goes fine until it resets the SCSI bus,
registers the CD-ROM as sd0a and a bunch of SCSI related devices, and
then resets the SCSI bus again. It then hangs there at the second SCSI
bus reset.
Can someone tell me what the next thing the installation boot process
does? I'd like to find out if it is the SCSI that's causing the problem
or the "next" item in the boot sequence.
Any other suggestions and comments on the possible problem are also
welcomed.
- Robert Ling <rling@u.washington.edu>
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From: burns@bellcore.com (James E. Burns)
Subject: PLI SuperFloppy under 3.1 (again)
Message-ID: <BURNS.93Aug22210510@gauss.bellcore.com>
Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: 22 Aug 93 21:05:10
There was a lot of traffic recently about the problem of formatting
floppy disks in the NeXT format under 3.1 using the PLI SuperFloppy.
Having finally found the time to upgrade, I too am suffering from the
problem. Has anyone got a solution or a definitive explanation?
jim burns
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From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Subject: Diamond Viper Video Card?
Message-ID: <1993Aug22.221228.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 03:12:28 GMT
Hey - Has anyone out there heard of, or used, a Diamond Viper video card with
NS/FIP?
Scott Davenport
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
From: gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can you use a NeXT monitor with a Mac PB 160?
Date: 23 Aug 1993 04:49:10 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <259i86$ejg@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Is it possible to connect a NeXT monochrome monitor to a
Mac Powerbook 160. What cables are needed and what software
is needed.
-- Greg --
gregory@athena.mit.edu
From: pl0124@psilink.com (Steven C. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anyone used the NEC CDR-37 to install NS/FIP?
Date: 23 Aug 1993 00:11:57 -0500
Organization: scp
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <2955164667.1.pl0124@psilink.com>
All:
Anyone used the above CD-ROM with an Adaptec 1540B to do an NextStep
for Intel Processors installation?
TIA,
Steven C. Perkins pl0124@psilink.com
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From: prie@dali.cc.rochester.edu (Tod Rieger)
Subject: Troublesome Internal SCSI Port
Message-ID: <1993Aug23.050004.14801@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 93 05:00:04 GMT
Several weeks ago, my NeXTstation went down in a panic due to a SCSI
error. The source of the error was the internal SCSI port, to which my
auxiliary hard drive was attached. After rebooting and a manual fsck
on the auxiliary hard drive (my thanks to John Lam!), I noticed that I
could not consistently uncompress several large files on that drive.
I then removed the auxiliary hard drive, placed it in an external case,
and installed my boot drive at the internal SCSI port. The system booted
up fine, and I could uncompress the large files on the auxiliary drive.
I then powered down the system. When I tried to boot up later, however,
the system would not get past 'Starting Local Services.'
I swapped the drives once again, trying a new cable with the internal
(auxiliary) drive. But I again could not consistently uncompress the
large files on that drive. I copied several more large files onto the
auxiliary hard drive, removed it, and ordered another external case.
Both hard drives are now external, and I can uncompress the second set
of files that I had copied onto the auxiliary drive.
I have several questions: First, is there any additional troubleshooting
that I can try on the internal SCSI port? (It seems to be an intermittent
failure during 'read' operations.)
Second, how do I terminate the internal SCSI port? Although I haven't
noticed any problems with the present configuration, I suppose the
internal SCSI port should be properly terminated, nonetheless.
Third, what is the EP jumper for on Quantum hard drives? The internal
105 MB (from NeXT) had it set, but the external 210 (from Alliance
Peripheral Systems) did not. (I have since removed the 105's jumper.)
Please e-mail (prie@dali.cc.rochester.edu) and I'll summarize.
Thanks for any information!
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From: Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
Subject: Re: How do you remove Hard Drive from a Cube?
Message-ID: <CC5J5A.4rE@ensuing.com>
Sender: karl@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft)
Organization: Ensuing Technologies Inc.
References: <255kdu$cg2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 08:19:58 GMT
In article <255kdu$cg2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B
Howland) writes:
> I am trying to replace the hard drive and the optical
> drive from my cube. Unfortunately I do not have the
> instructions on removing the center piece and removing
> the drives. Could someone please tell me how to remove
> the drives from the cube.
>
Once you have removed the back:
Use the NeXT tool to remove the motherboard. Only pull it
out an inch or two, and then unplug the optical and hard drive
connectors.
Slowly remove the motherboard to a static free surface, or
re-insert in the slot furthest away from the power supply
(This is merely for safety sake, as the memory is real close
to the power supply).
The power supply is help in place by two screws which are
removed by the NeXT tool. These two screws are located in
the back at the bottom (They are silver, and are on the "inside"
of the case.
Once you have removed those two screws, the power supply slides
out.
The Optical can be removed using the NeXT tool. The hard
drive is attached with phillips screws.
From there it should be obvious.
--
_________
Karl Kraft
Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com (NeXT mail)
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From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: 128 MB SCSI optical drives
Message-ID: <1993Aug23.062405.6521@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 06:24:05 GMT
Relax Technologies is selling a 128MB optical drive (Sierra Ricoh T1) for
$799. I'd like to know if there is any reason why this drive couldn't work
on a plug-n-play basis with a NeXTstation. Does anyone have any experience
with this or similar optical drives?
If it will work OK, is $799 + $44 per OD an OK price? Who has drives like
this for less? (Used drive in good condition is acceptable.)
John Bartley
john@wpa.com
From: t89djo@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (David Jonsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Does Adaptec 1540A work?
Date: 23 Aug 1993 11:16:21 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <25a8u5$2qb@corax.udac.uu.se>
Does Adaptec 1540A work on NS/FIP 3.1?
The Compatibility Guide doesn't mention it but doesn't it just differ ftrom B
and C in physical format? Has anyone tested the card?
David
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From: kjell@oops.se(Kjell Nilsson)
Subject: Vectra XM drivers ???
Message-ID: <1993Aug23.121026.1545@oops.se>
Sender: kjell@oops.se
Organization: OOPSart - ObjectWareHouse
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 12:10:26 GMT
Hi netters,
Is there some onewho knows if the S3-928 adapter in the HP Vectra XM has a
driver and where I can get it.
The Vectra XM has also an onboard lan adapter, is there any driver for this
stuff?
Thanks
--Kjell
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From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Subject: Re: Empty socket on 030 Cubes?
Message-ID: <1993Aug21.184606.1725@aplki.toppoint.de>
Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Organization: Andreas Ploeger
References: <253m1r$73h@overload.lbl.gov>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 93 18:46:06 GMT
In article <253m1r$73h@overload.lbl.gov> telaydi@portnoy.lbl.gov. (Tarek Elaydi
[ITG]) writes:
>
> I was installing some RAM in my 030 Cube and I noticed
> that there was this big empty socket next to the 68030.
> Does anyone know what this socket was meant for...upgrade?
It's for the NeXT Bus Interface Chip (NBIC). You need the NBIC if you put
additional boards (e.g. NeXTdimension) in your Cube.
cu,
Andreas
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--------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: raul@pencom.com (Raul Alvarez)
Subject: Re: Empty socket on 030 Cubes?
Message-ID: <1993Aug23.151823.333@pencom.com>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (News system)
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
References: <253m1r$73h@overload.lbl.gov>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 15:18:23 GMT
In article <253m1r$73h@overload.lbl.gov> telaydi@portnoy.lbl.gov. (Tarek
Elaydi [ITG]) writes:
>
> I was installing some RAM in my 030 Cube and I noticed
> that there was this big empty socket next to the 68030.
> Does anyone know what this socket was meant for...upgrade?
No, it's not for an upgrade. If I remember right, NeXT was designing a
chip for its NuBus interface. I think the NuBus developer's kit used this
socket. I don't know what ever happened to the NuBus developer's kit or
chip.
--
Raul Alvarez raul@pencom.com 212-513-7777 NeXT Mail is encouraged
Remember: If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 23 Aug 1993 14:34:46 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <25b2k4$sv5@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong
elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific
questions about NeXT's implementation or porting
issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups
(comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript,
comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that
may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU
Minor editing: Scott Anguish
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: split this newsgroup
Message-ID: <1993Aug23.204035.6682@altsys.com>
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <LQ5FB7LJ@gwdu03.gwdg.de> <24jmc0$ofn@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1993 20:40:35 GMT
I think it's too early to split the group at this time. I enjoy
finding out about the problems and successes of other users.
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2518
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: sanchezp@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help with 3Com
Date: 23 Aug 1993 21:22:27 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SANCHEZP.93Aug23142227@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
I'm helping my wife set up a Dell DGX system with NS/FIP. Everything
seems to be working fine, except we can't get the ethernet hookup
working. We're using a 3Com etherlink combo. We installed the board,
used the supplied software to configure it as EISA, and then used the
EISA config utility to set it up for twisted pair. We didn't change
any other default settings, since there is not NextAnswers sheet for
3Come (that we've found, anyway).
The board seems to be fine according to diagnostics and EISA config.
The network administrator confirmed that the twisted pair is active,
using another machine. Ping works fine with 127.0.0.1 and with the
assigned ethernet address, but we can't get out with ping, nor do we
get a response trying to ping in from other systems.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
--paul
From: mriley@turtle.fisher.com (mriley@fisher.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Mid-line NS/FIP system (~$4000) from Dell?
Message-ID: <1993Aug23.111035.532@turtle.fisher.com>
Date: 23 Aug 93 11:10:35 CDT
Organization: Fisher Controls International, Austin, TX
Has anyone looked into using one of the new Dell 466V/XPS machines for NS/FIP?
In terms of pricing, they seem to be very competitive with GW2000's 466V.
A couple concerns, however,
- They <claim> that the factory-installed CD-ROM (internal) is SCSI....
- Their best display option seems to be the Diamond Viper (a problem)...
Other than those two, the system sounds pretty good:
base: 486/DX2 - 66, 2 VL-bus slots, 16MB RAM, 15" monitor,
450 IDE drive, 256k cache, 1.44 3.5 floppy,
1 year on-site (next day) service. $2800
add-on: + double-speed (SCSI) CD-ROM. $ 199
+ 8MB additional RAM $ 399
+ Diamond Viper w/ 2MB $ 199
The Diamond Viper is a step up from their standard "#9" driver. I know
that the viper isn't supported, but I couldn't find this "#9" adaptor
on the hardware guide, either. The Dell salesman is checking on other
display options.
This system will hopefully be a pretty good machine for NS/FIP. I'd prefer
to step up to a larger SCSI drive, more RAM, and larger monitor, but they'll
wait....
I'd appreciate any questions or comments people have on the above system before
I purchase...
-Mike
--
Michael Riley (512) 832-3347
Fisher-Rosemount Systems Division 8301 Cameron Rd. -- MD2
mriley@fisher.com Austin, TX 78753
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Parallel Port Speed & Cool printers?
Message-ID: <Aug.23.18.55.35.1993.6452@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 23 Aug 93 22:55:36 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
Quick questions 4 ya...
1) How fast is the typical parallel port (in megs p/s) and does anyone know how fast the printer port on a NeXTstation (cube) is?
2) Has anyone used an HP Deskjet 550c printer w/ parallel interface on NSi? If so how quick or slow is it--say compared to a NeXTcolor printer?
Thanks for all any info in advance.
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Mixing 9bit and 8bit SIMMs?
Message-ID: <1993Aug22.220628.8697@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <GISLI.93Aug20172933@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 22:06:28 GMT
In article <GISLI.93Aug20172933@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson) writes:
>
> The FAQ says not to mix parity and non-parity SIMMs.
> I just did and everything works like a charm.
>
> My configuration:
>
> NeXTstation (non-Turbo)
>
> 4 4Mb SIMMs 8bit
> 4 1Mb SIMMS 9bit
>
> The machine boots normally and reports 2OMb RAM.
>
> What's the deal. Am I in for a nasty shock one of these
> days or is everything hunky dory?
>
It worked (and will work) because you didn't enable parity checking in the
ROM-monitor. Try that and you will start to hate yourself :-)
A bit that is not used but present doesn't harm, but a bit that is used
but missing...
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bav@bergen.siodata.no (Bjorn Asle Valde)
Subject: NS/FIP: problems with 3COM509/TP ?
Message-ID: <1993Aug23.140131.24698@alf.uib.no>
Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 93 14:01:31 GMT
Hi,
We're having problems with a 3COm 3C509-TP card in an
ibm ps/vp2. It looks ok, but networking functions do
not work. It's looks strange to me, "netstat -r" works
ok, "arp -a" works, but not anything else.
Are there any known problems with the TP 3C509 ?
Regards, -bav
--
Bjorn Asle Valde - SiO Data Bergen, Christiesgt.13, N-5015 Bergen, Norway.
Email: valde@bergen.siodata.no Phones: +47-5-320240 Fax: +47-5-320238
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dekorte@scri.fsu.edu
Subject: How do I setup a two headed Cube?
Sender: usenet@mailer.cc.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University ACNS
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 02:10:54 GMT
Message-ID: <CC8rE6.AJE@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
I have a NeXTCube and a NeXTStation.
Can I put Station's CPU board in the cube and hook another monitor
etc. to it(could it be that simple?), or are Station CPU boards different?
Thanks for any help,
- Steve Dekorte
please respond via email to: dekorte@scri.fsu.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Diamond Viper Video Card?
Message-ID: <1993Aug24.025119.17704@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Aug22.221228.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 02:51:19 GMT
In article <1993Aug22.221228.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes:
> Hey - Has anyone out there heard of, or used, a Diamond Viper
> video card with NS/FIP?
Your site must expire articles quickly, there was a post on this subject
a few days ago. A poster "in the know" mentioned that NeXT had just
received a card for evaluation.
Gateway 2000, a vendor that has a good looking $3,000 NEXTSTEP system,
is having problems (5 week waiting) filling orders for the supported
ATI video card. They are offering to ship systems with the Diamond Viper
card instead. Not much use to anyone in these groups for now, sad to say...
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Empty socket on 030 Cubes?
Date: 24 Aug 1993 12:04:09 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <25cli9$ejk@cc.tut.fi>
References: <253m1r$73h@overload.lbl.gov> <1993Aug21.184606.1725@aplki.toppoint.de>
In article <1993Aug21.184606.1725@aplki.toppoint.de> ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de writes:
>It's for the NeXT Bus Interface Chip (NBIC). You need the NBIC if you put
>additional boards (e.g. NeXTdimension) in your Cube.
I thought that it was impossible to use ND with 030 board. Does anyone
know why it wouldn't work or is it just a false rumor I've heard?
--
Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks
Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fo6r@ellis.uchicago.edu (Eric's NeXT Fortune)
Subject: Monochrome Monitor - L board
Message-ID: <1993Aug24.153223.29715@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic & Public Computing
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 15:32:23 GMT
The left edge of my mono-monitor is starting to blur and the
images there are stretching vertically. I have spoken with
Bell Atlantic, and they suggest replacing the "L-board."
The L-board costs hundreds of dollars. Are there any other
options other than replacement? Should I fork out the extra
few hundred dollars to get a replacement monitor?
I'd like to hear from anyone who has replaced the L-board.
I want to know if it will solve my problem, and whether I can
replace it myself without causing severe personal injury.
Thanks,
- eric fortune
fo6r@midway.uchicago.edu
NeXTMail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: Flaky key repeat on Intel GX
Message-ID: <1993Aug24.151424.15733@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 15:14:24 GMT
This is pretty weird - the key repeat seems to come and go (it's gone at
the moment) on my Intel GX. The first time I noticed it, I went into
preferences and tried doing things in the test entry and after changing
the initial delay value, it started working. I haven't touched anything
since and everything is dead. I haven't tinkered with anything, so I am
puzzled about how this got messed up. I also don't have a clue about where
to start looking. Any suggestions?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Empty socket on 030 Cubes?
Message-ID: <CC9v6K.z0@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services
References: <253m1r$73h@overload.lbl.gov> <1993Aug21.184606.1725@aplki.toppoint.de> <25cli9$ejk@cc.tut.fi>
Distribution: inet
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 16:28:33 GMT
Tuominen Juha (t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi) wrote:
: I thought that it was impossible to use ND with 030 board. Does anyone
: know why it wouldn't work or is it just a false rumor I've heard?
there is a great difference between something working and something being useable...
Chances are that it will work.....whether or not it's useable is to be determined
by the fella who is stuck with the scenario.
: --
: Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks
: Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
: 33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
--
The trouble with an impressionist, he looks at a log
And he doesn't know who he is, standing, staring at this log...
peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peter.a.eisch@uwrf.edu
From: bkr@silence.next.com (Brian Raymor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Using the PAS SCSI
Date: 20 Aug 1993 18:00:38 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Message-ID: <2533g6$nps@rosie.next.com>
References: <25277t$av2@corax.udac.uu.se>
In article <25277t$av2@corax.udac.uu.se> t89djo@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (David
Jonsson) writes:
> The Pro Audio Spectrum soundcard has the ability of SCSI (not boot SCSI).
> Does anyone have experience in using this from the NS/FIP?
>
The NS/FIP driver does not provide access to the on-board SCSI port.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Subject: Printing transparencies on a NeXT 400 dpi laser printer
Message-ID: <CC9xA8.4Ds@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 17:15:43 GMT
Before I go ahead and try to print transparencies via the manual feed on my
NeXT laser printer, can someone who has tried it tell me if it is harmful to
the printer or not?
Please reply direct.
thx,
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@vm1.yorku.ca
Psychology Department NeXTmail: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: dcoder@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DAT drives and dump
Date: 24 Aug 1993 18:35:38 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <25dn1q$5tp@news.u.washington.edu>
Keywords: backup, NeXTCube, SCSI
I keep reading stories about the inability to get a DAT drive working with
black hardware, and then making dump/restore work reliably. Has anyone done
this successfully? The SCSI package in the archives is for NS/I.
The plan is to use a DAT drive to perform periodic data backups and restore
files as needed from DAT.
Dave Coder
dcoder@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com (Mark Frank)
Subject: DAT driver for NSI
Message-ID: <1993Aug24.174733.1230@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Sender: news@newsgate.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 17:47:33 GMT
Does anyone know anything about a DAT driver for an adaptec SCSI
controller? I could only find one for the DPT controller at ftp.next.com.
Can I use this one?
Thanks for your help.
--
Mark Frank frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com
Motorola Inc.
2100 E. Elliot MD508 Tempe, AZ 85284
From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI connector question
Date: 24 Aug 1993 19:45:48 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <25dr5c$2co@crcnis1.unl.edu>
I am looking into buying a (used) NeXT CD-ROM drive. I need to
know what type of SCSI connector cable I need to get.
My machine is a NeXTStation Color with an external hard drive
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The hard drive is a 660MB Wren 6 drive purchased from Tecor and
it is mounted in their 70 Watt "Trim Case". This drive is
connected to the NeXTStation Color by a SCSI 2-1 cable.
I want to chain the CD-ROM drive on after the external hard
drive. What kind of cable do I need? (note: I already have an
external terminator)
----------------------------------------------------------------
Dan Scott me@ienext.unl.edu NeXT mail welcome
----------------------------------------------------------------
From: dgd@nantucket.West.Sun.COM (Dan Donovan - Sun San Francisco SE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DAT driver for NSI
Date: 24 Aug 1993 20:15:23 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25dssrINNgth@west.West.Sun.COM>
References: <1993Aug24.174733.1230@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
In article 1230@newsgate.sps.mot.com, frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com (Mark Frank) writes:
>Does anyone know anything about a DAT driver for an adaptec SCSI
>controller? I could only find one for the DPT controller at ftp.next.com.
>Can I use this one?
>Thanks for your help.
>
>--
>Mark Frank frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com
>Motorola Inc.
>2100 E. Elliot MD508 Tempe, AZ 85284
Mark,
I'm using the updated SCSI tape device driver from NeXTanswers with my
Archive Python and 1542B. Works fine--no more problems with unrecognized
SCSI LUs either.
Dan
(Speaking only for myself....)
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Subject: Hardware requirement for NeXT STEP for intel
Message-ID: <2C7A7A78.2952@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 24 Aug 93 20:30:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Could anybody tell me where to get a copy of NeXT Hardware requirement
for intel machines? I currently have a 485/33Mhz PC clone(I do not even
know who made it) which has 8 meg memory and 130 meg disk space, a SVGA
card with 1 meg vedio memory. I would be willing to upgrade the memory
and disk space so that we can comfortably run NeXT Step on it if
it will not cost too much to do so.
Also, I understand one needs a CD-Rom to install NeXT step,
what kind of CD-ROM?
Thank you in advance.
Feng Liu
UC, Irvine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kjell@oops.se(Kjell Nilsson)
Subject: SUMMARY: HP Vectra XM drivers ???
Message-ID: <1993Aug25.092752.21981@oops.se>
Sender: kjell@oops.se
Organization: OOPSart - ObjectWareHouse
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 09:27:52 GMT
Hi,
here is a summary of the replies I recieved on my question about a driver to
the S3-928 for HP Vectra XM.
------------------- Peter_Kron@corona.com ----------------------------
The Aug 9 compatibility guide (says 3.1 but I think it means for 3.2) lists
the HP-XM as supported with the S3-928 at 1024X768. It specifically states
that the LAN adapter is not supported.
---------Stephane Ah-ki <Logibec.COM!sta@Logibec.COM>-----------------
It 's BETA and works fine.
I don't know if you can get it from NeXT.
-------- tshelton@il.us.swissbank.com (Ted Shelton) ------------------
Call up your local NeXT sales rep. NeXT has a driver under development
-- don't know when it will be shipping.
So it seems that there is a driver real soon now. I have tried to locate the
beta but have not yet succeded.
Thanks also to
"Gerard Philippe Menos" <gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU>
who replied to my question.
-----
Kjell Nilsson |WorkspaceManager error:
Bear-with-Me |WisePhraseMaker.app not running
OOPS - ObjectWareHouse |
kjell@oops.se |Try again later
(I love NeXTMail) |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Subject: SCSI timeouts
Message-ID: <scott.746273929@shrug>
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 10:18:49 GMT
I've been having some problems with my SCSI chain as of late, and am
looking for a bit of technical advice. The problem is a bit complicated
so instead of wasting bandwidth here, if someone happens to be a
SCSI guru then I'd appreciate hearing from them.
Thanks
Scott
--
EMAIL: scott@shrug.org (NeXTmail accepted) OR S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
SNAIL: Pyschment of Departology, University of Durham, Durham, DH1 3LE
"Network Unreachable"
From: mw@swiss.hp.com (Michael Wyrsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP Vectra XM support ???
Date: 25 Aug 1993 11:50:14 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Santa Clara Site
Message-ID: <25fjlm$av4@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
we try to install your NeXTSTEP package on a new
HP Vectra XM PC. But we got a lot of problems.
Is there any tips and hints available ?
Is this PC supported ?
Is the graphics chip S3 928 also supported
How should the internal CD drive (NEC) configured ?
(SCSI adress 0 is not supported and we are using IDE
harddisks )
nice ;-((
Any Information ????
Michael
From: me@ienext.unl.edu (Dan Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI connector question---Thanks!
Date: 25 Aug 1993 13:13:44 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <25foi8$3or@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <25ea3b$gm1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Thanks to all of you who posted or e-mailed me the answer to
this question! All agreed that the answer was a 50 pin SCSI1 to
SCSI1 cable.
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Dan Scott me@ienext.unl.edu NeXT mail welcome
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: greyham@research.canon.oz.au (Graham Stoney)
Subject: Re: How do you remove Hard Drive from a Cube?
Message-ID: <CCB2Fy.Lpu@research.canon.oz.au>
Sender: news@research.canon.oz.au
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
References: <255kdu$cg2@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <CC5J5A.4rE@ensuing.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 08:04:46 GMT
Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com writes:
>Once you have removed the back:
>Use the NeXT tool to remove the motherboard.
Karl means the CPU Board. The motherboard (usually called the backplane) is the
thing behind the power supply with all the slots that the boards plug into.
regards,
Graham
--
Graham Stoney
Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Ph: + 61 2 805 2909
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: louis.m.mcdonald@mve.aero.org (Louis McDonald)
Subject: Exceptional slow launch of documents on NS/486
Message-ID: <louis.m.mcdonald-250893092517@warrenton.aero.org>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 13:52:23 GMT
We are experiencing extremely long times in bringing up WordPerfect (WP)
documents on a NeXT Step (NS) 486.
The documents were originally written on a NeXT. The documents open
quickly on the NeXT. However, extremely long delays (5 to 20 minuits) have
been experienced the first time a document is opened on the NS 486. After
the document is opened the first time, it appears that it can be opened
again with minimal delay (4-8 seconds). Extensive tests have not yet been
performed to fully define the symptoms.
The NS 486 is a AST Power Premium 4/50d with 32 MB of memory.
The file server is a SPARC Station 10.
Has anyone else experienced performance?
Louis McDonald
703-318-5406 (office) 703-318-5409 (fax)
900-555-5406 (my special 900 number for information-holics)
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From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: Keynote commander DX266 laptop
Message-ID: <1993Aug25.135214.8167@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Keywords: Laptops
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 13:52:14 GMT
I'd like to know what laptops are known to support Nextstep. I am looking
at the Keynote Commander DX266 laptop with monochrome localbus video,
PCMIA slot, docking station, etc. Sounds like a perfect system for
Nextstep, but I have not seen it mentioned here. Does Nextstep support
PCMIA for things like a modem?
Maybe the best thing is for me to compile a list of supported laptops, if
no one is currently doing it. Send me a note describing the laptop you
use (model, configuration) for Nextstep and I'll summarize.
--
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From: bamberg@eecs.wsu.edu (Roberto Bamberger - Faculty)
Subject: NeXTStation Color Monitors
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 15:21:24 GMT
I know that this question has been asked several times before, but I could
not easily find the answer. I apologize for any inconvenience it may
cause.
I have a NeXTStation color and one of my color monitors (17") just went up
in smoke. I have a Tech that will take a look at it, but we have not had
very good success in repairing them. My question is, can I use an RGB
monitor instead. If so, how do I cable it, what type of RGB monitor, etc.
I have several RGB monitors just floating around my lab, so I would be
willing to put one of them to work!
Thanks in advance for your help.
Please email me as I do not regularly read this particular group.
--
Dr. Roberto H. Bamberger
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From: ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque)
Subject: Re: Parallel Port Speed & Cool printers?
Message-ID: <1993Aug25.074103.15973@cubx.com>
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Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
References: <Aug.23.18.55.35.1993.6452@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 07:41:03 GMT
In article <Aug.23.18.55.35.1993.6452@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> Hi All,
> Quick questions 4 ya...
>
> 1) How fast is the typical parallel port (in megs p/s) and does
anyone know how fast the printer port on a NeXTstation (cube) is?
>
> 2) Has anyone used an HP Deskjet 550c printer w/ parallel interface
on NSi? If so how quick or slow is it--say compared to a NeXTcolor
printer?
>
> Thanks for all any info in advance.
>
> Later, John
We've tried the Lexmark 4079 connected to one of our PC // port and this 4
Mb PostScript level 1 ink-jet printer is really cool. Despite its IBM
whitish color, it is a winner...
Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French Guy"
Cub'x Systemes only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease...
ed@cubx.com It all started 2 full back-up ago...
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From: Ted Shelton - Systems Engineering <tshelton>
Subject: Re: HP Vectra XM support ???
Message-ID: <1993Aug25.164433.28039@il.us.swissbank.com>
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References: <25fjlm$av4@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 16:44:33 GMT
In article <25fjlm$av4@hpscit.sc.hp.com> mw@swiss.hp.com (Michael Wyrsch)
writes:
> we try to install your NeXTSTEP package on a new
> HP Vectra XM PC. But we got a lot of problems.
> Is there any tips and hints available ?
> Is this PC supported ?
> Is the graphics chip S3 928 also supported
>
> How should the internal CD drive (NEC) configured ?
> (SCSI adress 0 is not supported and we are using IDE
> harddisks )
>
> nice ;-((
>
>
> Any Information ????
>
> Michael
There are a few problems with the HP XM but this will be a supported PC
(at least this is what HP and NeXT are telling me).
1.) The internal CD-ROM is not currently supported -- you'll need to
get a SCSI card and an external drive to load NEXTSTEP
2.) The S3 chipset family is being supported -- I don't know what the
time line is for a release of the drivers -- call you NeXT sales rep.
3.) The IDE drives that HP is currently shipping with the XM require a
firmware upgrade to work correctly with NEXTSTEP. Talk to you HP rep
about getting that firmware upgrade from Seagate.
The HP XM is a screamer -- one of the fastest 486 machines I have tested
with NEXTSTEP. The S3 928 is not quite as good as the C&T Wingine
technology but is still very respectable for full color NEXTSTEP
performance.
------------------------
OPINIONS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN AND NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF SWISS
BANK CORPORATION... tshelton@swissbank.com
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From: kathys@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Kathy Sturdevant)
Subject: Cube Noise Question
Message-ID: <1993Aug25.181453.18307@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov>
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 18:14:53 GMT
We have a NeXT cube running 3.0. The optical disk drive appears to
be making an unusual sound and I was hoping for some help from the
net. Here's my "high-tech" description :-):
def: power-up sound: cube goes from low to high pitch
def: power-down sound: cube goes from high to low pitch
scenario:
1- I put in the disk.
2- The cube makes a power-up sound and rattles
3- It makes a power-down sound
4- Then, it makes a power-up sound again
Steps 3 and 4 (power-down and extra power-up sounds) are new. We have
another cube which does just 1 and 2 which I've always observed as
"normal" for both machines.
Is this normal? Does it need service? Is it preparing to die?
Thanks!
kathys
kathys@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov
(NeXT mail: kathys@mojave.jpl.nasa.gov)
From: paul@argon.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Paul R Tognato-Haddad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Fujitsu M2263HA and NeXTstation
Date: 25 Aug 1993 20:02:58 GMT
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Howdy,
Short and simple. Does any one know if the Fujitsu M2263HA works with a NeXT?
---
Paul (NeXTmail preferred)
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From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Subject: The NeXTdimension Compendium, PART I
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 22:11:39 GMT
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Keywords: NeXTdimension, pro and con, tips and tricks
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
The NeXTdimension Compendium (or, How I Spent My Summer Vacation)
1.0 Starters
This is a VERY large document; so large, I've posted it in 3 parts. I
realize this can be an imposition of sorts on many readers. I could have
simply summarized people's comments, and left out the NeXTanswers.
However, I felt that it was important to present the original discussion
in a straightforward way, so there would be little chance of my distorting
someone's commentary or explanation. Also, I think that readers will enjoy
the lively give-and-take that is such a hallmark of electronic
correspondence. Those readers interested in the topic who take the trouble
to download this beast, will, I hope, not have to download the relevant
NeXTanswers for a follow-up. It's my hope that the NeXT community will
find this effort of value. I am responsible for my own opinions and any
errors of editing.
One thing is missing; my own e-mail! I forgot to save it all and I suspect
our sysadmin long ago vaporized it. I hope you get enough of the
discussion from my correspondents.
If you like what I've done, please let me know. (If you don't, let me know
that, too, but be reasonable.) I may be willing to update this thing from
time to time and upload it to an archive site. I'd also like to see some
kind of depository or watering hole where ND users can share custom
software, tips and tricks. let's see if we can't put something like this
together.
1.1 Table of Contents
There's a lot here, so I've tried to organize it in some logical way.
PART I
1.0 Starters
1.1 Table of Contents
1.2 Preface
1.3 Editing conventions used
1.4 Credits
1.5 My original post
2.0 Debating NeXTdimensions vs. Intels (and SGI's)
2.1 Basic info
2.2 Cons
2.3 Pros
2.4 The Crux of the Biscuit
PART II
3.0 More Power! Brian Willoughby's ND Turbo summary
4.0 Tips culled from the Net
4.1 Two-headed ND's (contains several posts)
4.2 ND booting problem and fix under 3.1
4.3 ND Slots
4.4 ND memory check
4.5 Video.App bugfix
PART III
5.0 NeXTdimension Lore [5.2, 5.3 not available yet - see note]
5.1 What happened to the C-Cube chip
5.2 Dick Phillips, MediaView, and the ND
5.3 NeXTWORLD's pre-production review of the ND
6.0 NeXTanswers about NeXTdimensions
5.1 1036 NeXTdimension Software
5.2 1037 NeXTdimension Upgrades
5.3 1052 NeXTdimension Configuration
5.4 1065 NeXTdimension demos
5.5 A NeXT FAQ fragment about ND's: color, memory
1.2 Preface
This project began as a personal quest. I came under the NeXT spell last
semester and resolved to have my own machine. Though a grad student, I
have some resources that I was willing to invest in top-of-the-line tools
for the brave new multimedia world that is upon us. I was able to attend
the NeXTWORLD Expo, and have become a regular reader and participant in
the c.s.n.* newsgroups. It remained to determine the hardware and software
I needed to get. To begin with, I dreamed of a NeXTdimension and made
plans for a loaded Intel system. Then I began negotiations for a Turbo
NeXTdimension and in the process solicited advice from many quarters.
Along the way I collected a body of useful information about the
NeXTdimensions and their software that I felt ought to be assembled in one
place. I carried on long and lively conversations with several people who
graciously shared their thoughts and experience with me, and have agreed
to allow their correspondence to become public. The debate swirled around
the pros and cons of the NeXTdimension vs. the new PC's. In its essence:
the black hardware remains unrivaled in many respects, but was never
properly supported and is ultimately obsolete. The white hardware is much
more open, possibly cheaper, and will probably be MUCH faster. But at the
moment it has too many kinks and its promise is as yet unfulfilled. I have
every confidence that NeXTSTEP will be a great success on the Intel
platform, and will really shine on more powerful architectures. But I'm
impatient. So...I'm buying that Turbo NeXTdimension. I'm also a romantic.
I think maybe most NeXT people are...
1.3 Editing conventions used
I pruned the following materials in a variety of ways for a variety of
reasons. So that as many people as possible can access this document, it's
in ASCII format, and so the cool graphics from the NeXTanswers material
aren't there. Please consult the originals if you want them ("call
numbers" are in the TOC). Often I removed material from the e-mail that
was either personal or not germane to the topic. These are indicated by
ellipses (...). All material added by me is enclosed by brackets ([ ]). I
don't want to publicly discuss my financial negotiations, so all
references to prices have been deleted. Correspondents at NeXT have been
made anonymous, to keep them from being deluged with e-mail while they're
working on our favorite OS :-).
1.4 Credits:
I had the gracious and thoughtful help from quite a number of people, and
availed myself of NeXTanswers.
Many, many thanks to the following (I literally couldn't have done it
without you!):
Lance Charlish (lance@insight.com)
Howard R. Cole (hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu)
Alex Currier(mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu)
Detlev Droege (droege@infko.uni-koblenz.de)
George Fankhauser (george@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch)
Robert Fischer <fischer@fokus.gmd.de>
Brian L Gottlieb <brian@arl1.wustl.edu>
Nathan F. Janette (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu)
Gene W Homicki (gwh@cs.mcgill.ca)
Simon F C Harwood (sfch@dmu.ac.uk)
Eric de La Tribouille (eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu)
Borre Ludvigsen (borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no)
Phillip MacDonough (philip@utstat.toronto.edu)
Dan Marusich (maru@pri.com)
Jeff Nicholson-Owens (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
Blake Stone (bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca)
Marcel Waldvogel (Marcel.Waldvogel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch)
Brian Willoughby (BrianW@SoundS.WA.com)
a NeXT employee who will remain anonymous
NeXTanswers On Line Technical Documentation (1036, 1037, 1052, 1065)
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1.5 My original post:
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Subject: Wanted: informed comments on NeXTDimensions
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1993 00:45:00 GMT
I'd like to hear from people who own and use (or have owned and used) the
NeXTDimension cubes for serious graphic work. I want to use maximum
graphics software and hardware for archaeological illustration and
presentation, and I love NeXTSTEP. Caveats and applause are both welcomed.
On the downside, I'm aware of the C-Cube controversy but I'd like to know
of any other little hiccups and shortcomings. On the upside, I understand
that it will be some time before Intel-based hardware can measure up to
the ND's performance. If you're selling your ND, what sort of systems are
you considering (or have purchased) as a replacement/upgrade? If you're
hanging on to one, what is your rationale? Would I blow as much if not
more cash on a fully pumped Intel box as on a used ND? Please e-mail your
comments to me, and, if there's enough general interest, I'll post a
summary.
Thanks!
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2.0 Responses
2.1 Basic Info
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[Dan Marusich, the art director for Pinnacle Research, Inc., loves his ND
and said so in his first message to me:]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 01:48:19 MST
From: maru (To: indy@uiuc.edu)
Subject: ND, or not to ND? That is the question.
Steven,
I use a NeXT Dimension to do free-lance graphic design for a few
companies but in particular I am the Art Director for PINNACLE Research, a
NEXTSTEP developer. The quality of images on the ND quickly stands above
anything currently available in an Intel machine. Possibly in the future
when PA-RISC and Pentium Systems are available, there will be a 32-bit
system to surpass the ND's capabilities. What I like is the ability to do
video grabs to create still images for video presentations or quick design
ideas. There are some problems associated with the PostScript
ImageOperator that on occaision can cause some interesting
problems(especially when running on two screens as I do.)
If you could find a reasonably priced ND I'd say jump on it. One thing to
consider is the amount of memory and storage you will have available. The
ND board comes with 4mb of VRAM and can hold up to 32 megs for display
memory(having all 32-megs radically speeds up performace over 16-less
swapping in of 32-bit windows) Again the more memory on the Cube's board
(upto 64mb, or 128mb in TurboCubes). I wish I had a bit more memory here
to handle running several apps.
I'm not sure what sort of archaeological illustration and
presentation you had in mind but an ND paired with the right software ( I
use our own WetPaint for image editing, Adobe illustrator for
tech-illustrations, Virtuoso-for flashier stuff, Paste-Up -for longer
items and piecing things together, Concurrence - for creating
video-slideshows, and a modified Video.app supplied in the developer
examples.
If you have more questions, or would like to talk about your projects I'd
be interested to help.
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He responded to my next question, regarding available software and
comparison of platforms, with this:]
From: maru@pri.com (Dan Marusich)
Date: [I think an early July date]
Steve,
The same software ships with all copies of NEXTSTEP the difference being
whether or not the hardware will run it.
NeXT TV
is a Next developer demo written by Kieth Olfs, it lives up to its name by
working very much like a real TV(it even uses the annoying primary
green/red screen controls). What NeXT TV is useful for, is watching TV
(or a movie - i.e Blade Runner- 1st thing I did) It also allows you to
output things via the ND's ports.
ScreenScape
Possibly the most useful developer demo for creating video work.
Basically, ScreenScape outputs a video sized chunk of the screen to the
ND's 3 out ports. I've used this for presentations and demos, because it
allows you to lock the area in place, say over a WetPaint document or a
Concurrence window and record things.
Video.app & the video class
this is part of the developer demos to show you how to use the Video
class. You compile the program yourself, and can make minor changes
easily (I have) You should look at the documentation for the Video Class,
it is very straight forward.
[see Section 4.0 - NeXTanswers 1065 (NeXTdimension Demos) - for more info]
NextTime is very cool, you should be able to output anything from it using
ScreenScape, if not a NextTime authoring app. (Did you see us at Expo?)
For NEXTSTEP-INTEL there is a product that d'art was showing called the
ScreenMachine II, it is essentially the same thing as a PC/Mac product
available from another german company(Fast GmbH) send mail to sm@dart.de,
I also believe that Alembic is working with them. This board is
supposedly very similar to the ND as far as still capture and things are
concerned.
[Screen machine II is indeed a fine piece of equipment, and can do some
things the ND can't: record short video clips, apply video effects, .
However, it does not allow video output and only supports 16-bit color.]
[...]
Photo CD is cool, the 3.1 app will feed a base resolution version of an
image to any basically any .app
5.) Look for a system you can use, I really am happy with my ND
regardless of who calls it obsolete. This isn't to say I don't have my
eye on a PA-RISC. Pentium, or Power architecture machine. It sounds like
you're looking for workstation level tools, Mac's do and don't have some
cool tools ( I worked on a IIci for more than a year at an old design
job). An Intel box with cards is nice because there will be more cards
available to take advantage of NextTime, MPEG and other media based
tools. The addition of custom tools is always a nice option, and is easier
on Nextstep, but I really don't think you need that. It sounds like you
need this software.
A real CAD program: to design accurate floor plan based dig sites
An Illustration program : for Maps, flashy print graphics and less
precise diagrams.
An image editor: WetPaint is excellent (Had to plug it, but it is)
A presentation program: i.e Concurrence
A RenderMan front end (Frontface or Intuitiv)
An Animator 2d or 3d or both
If the black hardware is a good deal jump on it, if not start pricing some
fast '486 boxes. I'd guess that a white hardware system would be at least
$7000 for a fast machine with Decent capacity. You can't buy a system to
last forever so make sure to get components and software that will travel
with you to that 200mips laptop (ah that's the dream)
good luck!
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[Lance Charlish and I discussed the system I'm going to purchase, and he
answered some of my questions.]
From: lance@insight.com (Lance Charlish)
Received:Tue, 27 Jul 93 11:09:15 -0700
>Do the 100ns SIMMS have a noticeable impact on performance? Do you >have
a >recommended source for SIMMS (when they rebuild that >factory!) Will it
be >possible or desirable to install 32MB SIMMS on >the ND board?
As far as the ND board goes, there does not seem to be any speed gain by
using SIMMS that are faster than 100 ns. Of course you can always use
faster SIMMS, but I believe that the SIMMS will actually run at the 100 ns
speed. I could be wrong about this. Only the one meg SIMMS are 100 ns
SIMMS and should probably be the first to be replaced. [...] (the SIMMS
are used in Macintosh's latest line of printers) [...].
The largest SIMMS that NeXT specified for the NeXTdimension board are 4 MB
simms. I have heard that 8 MB SIMMS work just fine as well. I cannot
think of why you would want more than 64 MB of RAM on the NeXTdimension
board. The ND's RAM primary function is to store the screen image, which,
mind you, is huge: Over 1,000,000 pixels X 32 bits per pixel = 32 MB of
Data on screen. A good question to ask would be whether or not the ND has
any use for anything more than 32 MB of RAM? There is at least one reason
to believe that the answer is yes. One of the ways that NeXT windows move
around the screen so quickly and remain "drawn" while they are moving is
that the window server buffers all the windows in memory. This means that
the screen could possibly have more than 32 MB of the screen in the memory
at one time. I do not know though, whether the window buffers are kept on
the ND board itself or if they are kept on the system board.
[...]
>Tim Griswold at Dancing Bear Enterprises has told me that the Turbo
Cube's >motherboard won't hold the 32MB SIMMS (too tall). After my friend
Jeff >Nicholson-Owens gave me a tour of the inside of his Cube, we decided
that this >should not be a problem if we could get longer ribbon
connectors from the >board to the drives and move the board over one slot.
Is this feasible/a good >idea?
I believe that there is a way to change the motherboard backplane slot #.
I'll look into it. I thought that 32 MB SIMMS did fit. You might want to
check into this more.
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2.2 Cons
[Many responses favored the new intel hardware over the ND.]
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[later, Dan Marusich had second thoughts about my planned purchase...]
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 93 03:05:17 -0700
From: Dan Marusich <maru@pri.com>
[...]
For 6 or 7k you should be able to get a good 16bit color Intel box, the
question is what is the cost of something like the Screen Machine II or a
Video Grinder, they may save you some money for more peripherals and
software. The ND's video is really cool, but after thinking about the
nearly $[lot of money] I think you should really look at a fast 486, a few
more mips for some Maps or 3d work may be worth it, 32 bit color is nice
but only neccesary if you are doing something that has to be photographic
quality. I do know that NeXT is working to address the 32-bit question in
cards from Tseng labs and other sources.
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[this sentiment was echoed by several respondants:]
From: [name and address deleted]
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 93 09:11:47 -0700
Steve,
[name deleted] forwarded me your question (I do graphics support).
Our engineers are usually not available to the public (given their already
hectic schedules!) and the usual support channel is the ask_next@next.com
e-mail alias (although, as you might have guessed, this costs money).
Your question would be a great one to post to usenet, if you have
access to comp.sys.programmer. However, my personal answer would be to go
with the Pentium machine. It runs graphics faster than the ND and is more
flexible (there will be video capture boards available by the end of the
year). You will also have the option of running PC software if you need
to.
[My question was along the lines of, "Is there a chance NeXT will improve
NeXTdimension performance in future software upgrades, as the printer
performance was increased (PS1 -> PS2)?"]
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu [Phillip MacDonough]
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 93 00:41 EDT
[...]
Well I have been dreaming of a ND for 3 years. But at this point I would
stay away, and I guess the thing to do would be to get a cheap clone with
12-16 bit graphics. I wouldn't buy a brand name NeXT PC. PC's are bad
enough
without having to endure crazy prices for what you can get for 1/2 without
the name. For years I only bought brand name PC's, and now see that it was
a
waste.
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 19:45:12 -0500
From: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex)
Subject: Re: re: Indy??
I already have half of a NeXTdimension setup (everything except the
Dimension board and color monitor) and I have been considering options
between that and one of the new AV macintosh systems. Basically the way I
see it it's going to be a matter of speed. The SGI machine, even the
"Speilberg starter kit" stripped down model, is going to flat out stomp
the
NeXT or Mac in terms of graphics performance. I could add multichannel
digital audio and 32bit graphics to my Cube but if I'm going to be
spending
the money why not go for the SGI? It's what the pros use and some day I
hope to be able to afford an Onyx... might as well start with SGI now that
I have that chance.
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[My good friend Eric de la Tribouille, an ND owner, felt strongly about
the matter:]
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 93 12:56:27 -0500
From: Eric de_la_Tribouille <eric_t@marula.cs.uiuc.edu>
[...]
hum... again, you might be disappointed... you should really be careful.
The problem with the NEXTDimension is that they (NeXT) had a very serious
problem with the managment of the swap file. When it's swapping, the
performance begins to decrease very fast, especially when you visualise
images.
Again, you should be careful. How much will you pay for this config ???
If you decide to buy it, there are some solutions to optimise the
performance:
- you need to have 32 Mb on the NeXT Dimension board.
- you need to have a second Hard Drive specialised to manage the
Swap !!! You might find a 100Mb HD at a good price, but you must have a
great performance (<10ms).
Then, it should be better.
About the Sphere which was not represented as a sphere under i3d
[Intuitiv'3D], it was because of the NeXTDimension. It seems to don't do
that anymore when the NeXTDimension as a lot of memory... but it's very
strange !
[When Eric and I loaded some JPEG images into his ND, it indeed ran very
slowly]
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 93
From: Eric de_la_Tribouille <eric_t@marula.cs.uiuc.edu>
[...]
To come back to your [purchase]... I really think that with $[lot of
money] you could have a really really hot PC : Just take a look at the ALR
Pentium Evolution VQ. Ask them to put the Wingine card from epson (locabus
graphic card). It's the fastest available graphic card supporting NEXTSTEP
actually. It enable a resolution of 1280*1024 (the highest resolution).
Ask then a configuration with a hot 17" color monitor that would support
this large resolution (ask then the price for a 21" monitor also). And you
will see that you'll have something really more powerfull that the ND !!!
The problem with the ND is the way the memory is manage... there is a
strong bug somewhere that will never change... because the ND card has
it's own server that NeXT will never improve. You must understand that...
I really think that you will regret this choice... like all the owner of a
ND I've meet !!!
Really, for $[lot of money], you would be able to buy this ALR... and it
would give you more than satisfaction ! You'll be able to evoluate... when
you'll not be able to do it with the ND !
Think again ! A ND is good only for 45 minutes... after that, you have to
save your work... to power off it... and to restart !
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2.3 Pros
[Those who liked their ND's (Lance, Brian) or had looked into them (Jeff),
had very different comments.]
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From: lance@insight.com (Lance Charlish)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 93 14:53:16 -0700
Steve,
I have never heard of this memory management problem and I certainly have
NEVER experienced it. I have never had to reboot the ND because of
swapfile problems, never.
[...]
As to the relative value of the two machines, everyone has their own
opinions. But the fact remains that the only 24/32 bit color computer
that runs NEXTSTEP presently and in the near future (my guess is at least
a year) is the ND. Not to mention that getting video in and out of the
ALR might be rather difficult. BTW, what is the bitblast rate on the
video on the ALR machine? And will NeXT support the resolution standard
(1280*1024) that he quotes? The Dell DGX/2 JAWS machine that we have in
our office is capable of 1280*1024, but NeXT does not support that
resolution. Remember that processor speed is only part of the
performance equation - video speed is critical (e.g. I saw some tests in
PC World that compared a Pentium machine with a standard SVGA video
adapter with a 486 machine that had local bus accelerated video and the
486 was faster in all the tests being done (Windows was the operating
system).
So, to summarize:
1) Not all ND owners regret their purchase - we all miss the C-Cube
compression chip, but lots of us love the machine.
2) I have never had any swapfile related problems with the ND. It could
be that the machine that he was familiar with might have been seriously
memory starved. "[...]" is not memory starved.
3) Watch out for the evolution arguments - if the computer that is on your
desk can't do what you want, then you have problem. If it can do what you
want, then you ought to be a happy man, IMHO.
4) My guess is that the relative costs of the machines, if made truly
comparable, might not be quite as equal as it is represented by your
friend.
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:32:02 -0500
From: J.B. Nicholson-Owens <jeffo@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
I can see Eric's points on how the Intel is what the future of NeXT is
(since they don't make their own hardware anymore) but I really don't
think that just because it's the latest it's also the greatest. I
illustrate why I think the ND is better for video and high palette
problems below.
>According to him, there is a fatal flaw in the ND's window server - 45
minutes >and the swapfile's full, and only a reboot wil cure it!
I can't say I'm familiar with this problem specifically on ND systems. I
understand (and have experienced) filling up the swapfile and crashing,
but that is something that I've experienced on every NS system. What I'd
like to know is the complete configuration of this troublesome ND system.
You said it had 8M RAM (is this ND RAM or system RAM or both?), but how
much swap space? If it's got a low amount of swap space with only 8M RAM,
it will fill up quickly (like I said before, shuffling 24+8-bit images
around is not particularly a low-RAM or low-HD thing to do.
As an example of what I feel to be a good swapfile for doing UNIX stuff
(terminal windows open, reading lots of news and mail, irc, long
scrollbacks in each of the term windows, etc.) I think 80M swap is good
(which is what I've got the other 25M is saved for my /tmp drive). For
images, I fill up my 80M pretty quickly. Showing about 12 large (1k x 1k
or larger) images really makes my system slow down if not crash because it
can't swap out.
Part of the problem is that NS' swap cannot free data from anyplace but
the tail of the swapfile. If you start up any swap-hungry application,
start up some other application that swaps even the littlest bit, quit the
swap-hungry app and continue working in the little-swap app, the swapfile
is still going to be just as large as if you had let the swap-hungry app
sit there and do nothing. The swap device needs fixing. The other part
of the problem is that it's simply too much data to swap out. Just
because I'm loading up 12 large JPEG images that don't come to 80M when I
do an ls -l command, that doesn't mean they won't swap out 80M or more.
After all, JPEG is a compressed format, so when you see a 10K JPEG file,
it's probably something around 30K or more graphic data.
For this problem I'd recommend more RAM. To answer the question "How much
RAM, Jeff?" I offer this from the 1993 Winter NeXTanswers file color.802:
Neither the DRAM nor the VRAM on the NeXTdimension can be memory mapped by
the application. When it becomes necessary, the i860 pages to disk via
the host 68040 it does not write directly to disk itself.
Whether you increase memory on the 68040 or the NeXTdimension depends upon
how you plan to use the system. In general we recommend that you keep
them fairly balanced. If you are going to be keeping lots of windows on
the ND system then we suggest that you keep the memory on the i860
somewhat ahead. The less paging you do the better. You cannot extend the
VRAM [video ram] on the NeXTdimension.
I add that it is impossible to keep them balanced forever even on the
non-turbo cubes, as the Dimension can hold less RAM than the cube can.
Since the ND does it's paging through the '040 system, I'm guessing that
there might be a chance that the '040 might be able to decide whether to
hold on to that data in the cube's RAM or page it to disk.
>To come back to your purchase... I really think that with $[lots of
money] you >could have a really really hot PC : Just take a look at the
ALR Pentium >Evolution VQ. Ask them to put the Wingine card from epson
(locabus graphic >card). It's the fastest available graphic card
supporting NEXTSTEP actually. >It enable a resolution of 1280*1024 (the
highest resolution). Ask then a >configuration with a hot 17" color
monitor that would support this large >resolution (ask then the price for
a 21" monitor also). And you will see that >you'll have something really
more powerfull that the ND !!!
My two cents:
1. The resolution is high on that card, but when will it support 2
monitors like the ND does? Will it support more than 2 monitors working
together to make a virtual monitor?
2. Where is the video in/out ports required for producing video tapes
of one's work? From what I see, you must buy proprietary hardware and
non-standard C libraries or ObjC classes to get these ports. Even then,
you cannot have just anyone with an NS system build apps that will "just
work" with the ND (NS comes standard with a video view that works
perfectly with the ND).
3. The Wingine card sounds nice for a works-okay-right-now solution,
but it only lets you display up to 16-bit (adjustable alpha, so I hear)
video? That means that you're not going to be doing that much better than
a NeXTstation color. Considering how much you can get a NeXTstation color
for these days, that slight increase in resolution doesn't sound like
enough to justify the cost and the hassle of getting drivers right (to
me). With the ND, you get 24+8-bit video across the machine, no tricks,
no hassle, just plug it in and go.1
4. With NS/I comes getting into the PC way of thought for adding
functionality: don't worry that your new hardware is proprietary, just
make a driver! Drivers aren't too bad but they don't seem to be that easy
to create. Perhaps this is just the problem of the programmers and not
the tools, but the new DriverKit doesn't seem to be helping anyone make
drivers (I've not seen anyone say they've made a driver for anything).
In the future the Intel machines might very well have what the ND has now,
but that's just the point. The ND has it now and the Intel machines
simply don't. It all depends on what each user is interested in, as the
Intel boxes are not for everyone. You got that ND system at a real steal,
if you ask me, and I think you'll be very happy with it.
>You'll be able to evoluate... when you'll not be able to do it with the
ND !
[...]
Anything you buy will be cheaper the minute after you buy it. If that
sentence was "You'll be able to evaluate..." I think that you most
certainly will be able to evaulate differences, but I haven't bumped into
any ND user that was as disappointed with the ND as Eric apparently is.
How he configured his machine makes me wonder though. I know that when I
had an 8/105M machine I wasn't exactly doing cartwheels over what I could
do on the machine. I had to uninstall a large part of the 2.1 user setup
to install a couple apps that I really needed at the time. I was not in
any position to do installation of stuff off the net and swapping killed
my machine frequently. When I added more memory and a good size hard disk
(for UNIX the standards tend to be higher than for DOS or Windows a 1G
hard disk is becoming more common for users of most types), my crashes all
but went away (I've crashed 4 times due to swapdrive fill-up) and I'm able
to actually use my system compiling stuff on it and getting into having
fun with it, not just open a no-scrollback Terminal window and kermit into
[a local UNIX machine].
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1 All the drivers you need to use are launched at boot time and come
with the system, no additional work needed. Conversely, if you don't have
the drivers needed for the Intel system you have to create them yourself,
hire someone to create them or do without. I've heard (in other words,
not confirmed) that the Wingine card allows deeper video (increase
on-screen palette) by adding more ram. That's good, but there is a limit
of 16-bit video, so no matter how much memory you add you'll never be able
to have enough for 24-bit video. This might be a Wingine software
limitation that might change with future Wingine software, but I don't
know for sure.
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2.4 The Crux of the Biscuit [any Frank Zappa fans out there? :-<)>]
[I think Jeff and Brian sum up the debate very well. Alex's and Eric's
final comments are excellent, too.]
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 93 18:51:16 -0500
From: J.B. Nicholson-Owens <jeffo@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
[...]
>but they strongly recommended the 486 or Pentium
This seems to be the big issue at hand, so I'll offer my two cents:
(all statements based on what you can do right now)
ND Turbo system Intel-based system
24-bit color + 8-bit alpha Best color is 16-bit with adjustable alpha
DSP standard No DSP (addons would be custom and not
easily standardized now)
Can use high-speed SIMMS Might be able to use high-speed SIMMS if
the
hardware supports it most I am familiar
with can not do this, however
Supports two monitors No multiple monitor support, no virtual
in a virtual screen monitor support
arrangement
Able to use all major kits Can not use Music Kit (a major kit for
dealing (can not use driver kit) with simultaneous sounds and DSP
support)
but can use driver kit
Can use TTYDSP for Must rely on whatever the serial port on
the
incredibly high serial rates machine has since adding a serial card
with
(far beyond 57.6k baud)1 enhanced capability would run into
customization problem again.
Can not run any OS but Can
run a variety of OS's, including free
NEXTSTEP UNIX ports [e.g., 386BSD and Linux],
Windows, OS/2 and MS-DOS
1 use of Yrrid's TTYDSP makes using the DSP for other things impossible.
Playing DSP music and using TTYDSP to dialup to a BBS would be impossible.
The workaround would be to play the music with the CPU and use TTYDSP for
the high-speed BBS work. Speaking from a personal viewpoint, once you use
SLIP, dialups will seem so archaic. Receiving mail at home and reading
news at home is such a nice thing. It might even make you consider
something like purchasing an ISDN connection which will require as much
speed as you can give it [one person I talked to is using an ISDN modem at
57.6k baud with TTYDSP on his NeXT hardware right now as I type this]. If
you ever considered living in a UIUC dorm with ethernet [the University of
Illinois is installing direct ethernet connections to the campus backbone
in University dormitories] in your room, that would be best, but ISDN is
second best.
>Reasons given: cheaper, much faster, and 24-bit color and video boards
>supposedly coming soon.
But if there are no 24+X-bit boards available, it is by definition neither
(1) cheaper nor (2) faster. They are comparing a 24+8-bit (palette+alpha)
display system (ND) to a 16+4(?)-bit display system (Intel) and telling
you the Intel system is faster. Of course it'll be faster, it has less
data to store, pass through the bus and retreive to draw and redraw
graphics. My 2+2-bit cube is going to be faster then their Intel system
by the same logic.
Also, I should mention that (for me) the phrase "coming soon" means
absolutely nothing to me. I know Windows, X and DOS users can enjoy
24-bit displays on their Intel machines now. If I were considering
switching to those OS's, I would care about that since I want color so
much. But a combination of things has to happen before there is an Intel
NS machine with the capability of the ND:
(1) 24+8-bit display or better card
(2) driver support for NS
(3) realtime video in/out ports on the card
(4) a driver that makes the hooks for using the ND video methods also able
to be used by the Intel card [otherwise you'll end up with some card that
is only able to work with some software something that goes strictly
against the NS work paradigm, if you ask me].
(5) driver support that allows ALL of NS to use the fabulous color ALL the
time, not just in a particular window or view, but all 24-bit icons come
up as 24-bit icons.
(6) A PAL version of the card for European users (since they do
development work also, there is no use in discounting them even though you
will want the NTSC card)
(7) Card and driver that support at least 2 monitors in a virtual monitor
hookup like the ND does right now.
There are no such cards for the Intel systems that can be used with NS
right now, and the only option I've heard of is this thing from a company
whose name escapes me that will allow animation editing. Their stuff does
not allow the entire system to become 24+8-bit display, however, therefore
to me it's just duplicating a fraction of what could be done with just
software on the ND. If "coming soon" matters to you so much, keep in
mind what you told me the demoers at NeXTtime said, how it'll run so well
on a ND system.
In order for any Intel display card to be compared to the ND, it will have
to compete on ALL the bases that the ND can compete on. I might have left
some ND features out, but you get the idea that a simple 24-bit frame
buffer is NOT in any way going to suffice as proper competition for the
ND.
Now, just so I don't seem totally pro-ND, here are some drawbacks:
* Little X usage (all the X programs run incredibly slow on ND systems, I
wouldn't expect to use X under ND at all. Since I don't use X this
doesn't matter one whit to me personally, but if your needs change and you
need X, this could easily matter)
* Maximum 2-monitor support: The ND cannot daisy-chain monitors so that
you could create a video wall.
* No combined PAL/NTSC video in/out: Unless you purchase two ND boards,
you cannot get both PAL and NTSC on one system. If you did purchase two
boards (and hooked up 4 monitors) you would have one two-monitor screens
duplicated once in PAL and once in NTSC (the same video would go out on
both ND boards). Not a 4-monitor single virtual-screen ND system.
* Increase swap and RAM usage: As with ANY system, the more data you
store, the more space you require in which to store it. With a 24+8-bit
system (such as the ND), you will require more RAM and swap space than
someone with a 2+2-bit system (such as me) because you will be storing
more data per color image (whether the image is on-screen or not) than I
will. This is not an ND flaw, per se, this is a basic operating fact of
all computers.
* Slower machine: The ND system will be slower than it's equally-equipped
B&W competitor (comparing a [...] Turbo Cube to an ND Turbo system with
equal amounts of RAM, swap space and running the same apps on the same
version of NS, for instance). The ND machine has to move at least 12
times the data across the same bus (compared to the Turbo Cube) to use the
full palette of the ND. The simple equation of rate=distance/time will
tell you that the ND machine will be slower at the same display tasks.
For me, the enhanced resolution (using a 2-monitor display doubles the
horizontal resolution, albeit across two monitors) and the enhanced
palette more than make up for that lack of speed. Programming can
(possibly totally) take care of that speed differential by using efficient
decompressing algorithms. A decent NeXTtime implementation running on an
ND system would answer the question of how much work is it to implement
such a good realtime display system.
[...]
I'm telling ya, if you want to do NS in real color, there are only two
options: (1) NeXTdimension or (2) wait and see what the Intel machine
offers. If you want to use NS real color now, there's only one way: ND.
[...]
Perhaps by the time you are in a position to buy something else or
something in addition to your ND box, there will be low-cost ND lookalikes
for 72MHz '486 or HP boxes that will scream your name. If you get another
NS machine, you might use that one to crank out the frames of some
animation and use the ND system to display them. You could then use the
HP system on a 2+2-bit display and ethernet the two machines together
(with a phone cable perhaps) to get the data from one machine to the
other.
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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 93 10:49:41 -0700
From: Brian Willoughby <brianw@sounds.wa.com>
I'll give you a few points of view that I have.
1)
Con: Compared to other video systems out there, especially motion video
systems designed after the NeXTdimension, it now seems like the dimension
is expensive. i.e. the cost/performance ratio is high. My common
"mistake" is to think about features like recording real-time video to
disk, simply because newer systems for the PC can handle this at low cost.
But I don't think this is a fair comparison considering when the
NeXTdimension was designed. The dimension cannot record high frame rates
directly to disk because there is no hardware support for real-time
compression. The only possibility would be to get a video playback device
with frame accuracy, and have the NeXT control the pause on each frame
long enough to convert and save the frame's image to disk.
Pro: If your requirements do not include recording live video to disk,
then the NeXTdimension is attractive at the right price. Real-time video
in a window, without storing to disk, is fully functional. Conversion and
display of still images is fantastic. There is no substitute for 24-bit
true color. The NeXTstation and most PC video cards do not come close in
quality. Taken as a whole package (instead of comparing the cost of the
dimension upgrade by itself against the cost of a NeXTcube), the
NeXTdimension has (or had?) the best price/performance ratio in the
workstation market. You'll especially benefit from purchasing a used
system (I purchased a demo system from the local NeXT dealer).
2)
Con: If you don't have the money for at least 32MB of dimension memory,
you are going to suffer. I have also been told that you need to keep the
amount of RAM on the main board balanced with amount on the ND (as close
as possible given the different number of slots and types of SIMM which
are accepted by each), although I don't know what the consequences are if
this advice is not followed.
Pro: This is an easy "problem" to solve. I started with 28+20MB (CPU/ND)
and now have 40+48MB, hoping to eventually reach 64+64MB. My system was
never very slow in the beginning, and is now even snappier. Many things
are faster than on the NeXTcube, but a few things are slower. I am happy
with the tradeoffs. A Turbo NeXTdimension might be the perfect combo.
What are you getting?
In summary, I like my machine. I would never own a 486 PC as my main
workstation, simply because there is no substitute for the computing power
and throughput of a workstation with an integrated design like the NeXT.
There are still far too many problems with the speed of PC bus systems,
and the peripheral are not designed to work together with several channels
of DMA for transferring several streams of data in a multitasking
environment.
You might want to consider some of the restrictions I had in mind when I
made my purchase decision. I had already decided, having owned an Apple
][ with only 6 colors, that any new computer purchase must be capable of
24-bit true color in its highest resolution. With this personal
preference, I was left with no other choice but the NeXTdimension (once I
found out that the SGI Indigo starts with 8-bit video for $8,000 plus a
$3,000 development package which didn't support 56001 development, I
decided that NeXT had the best price/performance ratio in the range I
could afford). As long as I don't get distracted by drooling over new
computer applications like live video compression and recording, I realize
that my machine does a great job of all the tasks that I had in mind when
I purchased it. If you're getting a reasonable price for this used
NeXTdimension, I would say "go for it".
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 18:01:22 -0500
From: Alex Currier <mycroft@monolith.cc.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: About NeXTdimensions...
Reply-To: mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
[...]
Certainly you can use what I said, even though I seem to have changed my
mind! The reason for this was I looked more closely at the specs on the
Indy and realized that for the base price of about 5K you get just the
basics. You'd have to add a HD (1.2GB, please) and a monitor (21" would be
nice) and more memory and even then you'd be running a brand new untested
OS (or GUI at least, whatever it is that "Magic" actually is) [Magic is
the recently-announced new SGI user environment]. The final cost for a
real performance system would be in the high 7K to low 9K region. At this
point in my life I don't need to (and can't afford to) spend that kind of
money on the Indy. I believe my ND system (at the astounding low price I
managed to pay for it) will meet my needs nicely for some time. If I need
more horsepower I can buy a second NeXT and distribute rendering or
whatnot between them. In a few years when there have been some real
strides made in computing power and storage capability I will consider
moving up to a higher level. Already I have more computer on my desk than
some small countries.
As for NeXT versus Intel hardware... I now have some experience in that
area too. PC hardware is pretty cool. It's faster and more configurable
but when you think about the system as a whole... I would rather buy a
machine designed by one company completely and solely for running NeXTSTEP
than buy a machine designed by 10 different companies and stuck together
which was never designed to run anything like NeXTSTEP. The
hardware/software integration of NS on NeXT hardware makes it worth buying
the orphaned equipment, in my opinion and for my applications. Users who
want raw speed probably should wait for NS ports to higher end machines...
users who want a cheap NS box should consider used NeXT hardware. My '040
cube 16/349 cost me $2000.
Of course this is all for me, other people may have very good reasons for
buying a PC machine to run NS. The CPU performance is definitely there...
a DX2/66 with 256K cache outperformes the Color Turbostation by a factor
of 150% to 250%. Video performance does suffer a bit (80% to 90% of the
NCT) but that will probably be remedied in the future with new hardware
designed with NS in mind and better drivers. I just don't like the idea of
a machine with so many variables... I have never been a big fan of Chow
Mein hardware (where you throw in whatever you have and hope it works).
That's what I always liked about Apple and NeXT. You get a well integrated
machine and (in Apple's case) you still have room to upgrade (though you
don't have to upgrade just to get basic functionality like good video and
SCSI and sound and whatnot).
alex
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Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 12:26:49 -0500
From: Eric de_la_Tribouille <eric_t@marula.cs.uiuc.edu>
I think that the main problem when you manage large images come from the
fact it really takes a lot of memory. So the same problem of swaping may
come from a PC. It would be very interesting to test that. Some guys tell
you that we'll wait at least one year before seeing 24bit supported under
NEXTSTEP FIP. I really hope it will be ready for the 3.2.... and it should
!
The main advantage of a PC comes from the fact you will allways be able to
find the solution, and it does not take a long wait.
I would say that the advice from the guy at NeXT to take a PENTIUM machine
is interesting...
But real live test is the best thing for sure ! If you could have this
NEXTDimension for one month with NEXTSTEP 3.1, we'll be able to test it
and to be sure it'll give you what you want. I don't know if it's
possible, but it would be the best choice !
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------[Dan Marusich reports (8/8/93) that 32-bit color will be supported
with Release 3.2. Hooray! Nevertheless, I'm proud to own an Original Black
Beauty]
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Subject: The NeXTdimension Compendium, PART II
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 22:13:07 GMT
Message-ID: <CCC5pv.10q@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Keywords: NeXTdimension, pro and con, tips and tricks
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
The NeXTdimension Compendium (or, How I Spent My Summer Vacation)
PART II
3.0 More Power! Brian Willoughby's ND Turbo summary
4.0 Tips culled from the Net
4.1 Two-headed ND's (contains several posts)
4.2 ND booting problem and fix under 3.1
4.3 ND Slots
4.4 ND memory check
4.5 Video.App bugfix
3.0 More Power! Brian Willoughby's ND Turbo Summary
[Brian Willoughby recently posted a summary of his survey regarding the
Turbo motherboards for NeXTdimension systems. I include it here with his
permission, and I take the liberty of assuming that the original authors
gave their consent to public posting with the original article.]
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------Subject: SUMMARY: NeXTdimension Turbo recommendations
Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 23:50:34 GMT
I asked a couple of questions and promised a summary, so here goes a
review of
the original article followed by all the responses (which have tapered off
recently and now tend to be questions rather than answers :-)
Brian Willoughby writes
| Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1993 20:13:01 GMT
|
| What is the general consensus on the speed improvement provided by
upgrading
| a 25 MHz '040 dimension to a 33 MHz Turbo motherboard? I assume it
would be
| quite difficult at this point to get a NeXTcube Turbo motherboard, but
if I
| were to find one, I'd like to know what to expect.
|
| Are there any new problems when running a NeXTdimension board along with
the
| 33 MHZ NeXTcube Turbo motherboards? How much faster is the machine
given
| similar RAM and drive configurations? Basically, would upgrading my
main
| board from 25 MHz to 33 MHz be a major hassle (negative performance), a
waste
| of time (no change), a small improvement, or a vast improvement?
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 16:05:32 -0700
From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
I recently got an ND and a turbo board for my cube.
Quite noticeable improvement.
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 16:24:40 PDT
From: brianw (To: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell))
Thanks for the response, Steve. I'm curious, though: did you get both the
ND
and the Turbo board at the same time? How long did you use the ND with
the 25
Mhz board before upgrading to the 33 MHz Turbo one? The reason I ask is
because the ND is faster than the standard NeXTcube because all of the
Postscript and Renderman functions are handled by another processor. I'm
wondering how much of your improvement was due to adding the ND and how
much is
on account of the Turbo board by itself.
I have an ND and a 25 MHz board.
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 17:46:00 -0700
From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
I got the turbo and the ND at the same time.
I have no basis for comparison in driving the ND,
but the system as a whole is much faster.
I'm not sure it's correct that PS and Renderman are handled by the ND.
I've been told by a person inside NeXT that all the ND processor does
is copy rectangles through a dual-port RAM. Apparently, the machine
wasn't designed very well for the intended purpose of outboard rendering,
and so the software was never written to accomplish that. This information
may not be true anymore, but I think it still is. Designing interfaces to
do what ND was supposed to do is not easy, and NeXT made at least one
other
similar bad assumption in their hardware interfaces: the DSP.
Right now I'm running two heads, 32MB on the CPU and 8MB on the ND. I get
a little window shear that I understand would be corrected by more ND RAM.
Other than that, this is a very sweet machine.
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 20:01:27 -0500
From: J.B. Nicholson-Owens <jeffo@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
Spherical Solutions has Turbo ND systems on sale now for $7k, I believe.
I would say that the ability of Turbo machines to hold more memory (128MB,
I
believe) could all by itself make some RAM-hungry apps run faster if that
128MB
is enough to postpone a trip to the swapfile. Unfortunately, it probably
takes
a lot of money to expand your machine with the proper ram to take
advantage of
that.
Also, I believe the Turbo machines can access faster ram faster than the
non-Turbo machines can access the same ram.
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From: dylan@angst.com (Dylan Kohler)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 93 17:24:03 -0700
I haven't really noticed much of a difference between the Turbo and
non-Turbo
Dimension cubes. This isn't anything I've checked empirically--just my
opinion
that the extra cost wasn't worth it to me.
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From: Peter Eisch <peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 93 13:18:20 -0500
About going to 33MHz: I debated it for a long time. The 33's have only
the
4 memory slots as the rest of the turbo crowd, so I'd have to shell out
some
serious cash for ram to keep 64MB on my motherboard on top of the board
itself.
In the same vein, you can take the 33's to >64MB of ram.
To specifically answer your question, I've never tried a turbo cube/ND and
you're surely to notice a difference (as in the NSC/NSTC's) but it may or
may not be worth the hassle. If money's no object -- go 'fer it.
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From: lance@insight.com (Lance Charlish)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 93 12:23:08 -0700
I upgraded my ND system to a turbo system and the change was DRAMATIC.
Because
the display postscript is drawn on the 040 chip (rather than on the Intel
RISC
chip) the faster interleaved memory, faster processor and the turbo memory
controller chip vastly increase the speed of the machine whenever an app
has to
draw a lot of postscript.
If you want better performance, but can't get a board, make sure that you
have
the memory at max. levels on the ND board. Whenever the ND board has to
page
its memory of the screen, it also takes over the CPU on the system board,
which
really hurts performance.
There were no problems to speak of doing the upgrade.
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[On July 3, 1993, George Fankhauser (george@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch) of
NiCE (NeXT User Group, Zurich, Switzerland) posted some NXBench benchmarks
for various NeXT and Intel configurations reported to him by users. A 25
MHz '040 NeXT Cube monochrome was used as a baseline (1.0). Jim Kiraly's
Turbo ND registered 0.8324, a hair faster than an Intel GX Pro (0.8112)
and only a little slower than a Dell JAWS machine (0.8618). These numbers
will certainly change with future driver updates, but the comparison is
interesting.]
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4.0 Tips culled from the Net
[This stuff I saved for my own reference library, but as it concerns the
NeXTdimension, and as some folks may have missed it, I'm including it here
with the permissions of the original authors.]
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4.1 Dual Headed NeXTdimensions
[This is comprised of several posts]
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4.1.1
References: <1993Jun23.005511.16355@cs.yale.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: nebel.uni-koblenz.de
In article <1993Jun23.005511.16355@cs.yale.edu>
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> In article <nelson.740790085@puff.socsci.umn.edu>
nelson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu
> (David Paul Nelson) writes:
[ ... ]
> > 4. A question for those having experience of NeXTDimension: is it
possible
> > to run two monitors simultaneously? That is, the 2-bit from the
> > motherboard, and the color from the ND board? What does the workspace
look
> > like?
>
> Yes, in fact you can even run multiple ND boards with associated
> displays, although I've never seen it done. The color display must be
> the main display.
No, either monitor can be the main display. It's chosen in Preferences,
section for multiple monitors ("Not Applicable" on normal machines).
You can choose which monitor to use as main display and adjust the
relative position of the monitors so the picture doesn't "jump" if you
drag a window across the displays. The displays work like one big
workspace,
windows can be partly on both at the same time. Menu and Dock
are kept on the "main" display.
Detlev Droege [.sig deleted]
[However, see also NeXTanswers 1052 on a problem with dual displays]
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4.1.2
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs
From: sfch@dmu.ac.uk (Simon F C Harwood)
Subject: Re: WSMgr: Windows on double-head
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 15:09:48 GMT
In article <1993Aug5.062547.4886@fokus.gmd.de> rfi@jeans.fokus.gmd.de
(Robert Fischer) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I'm sitting in front of a double-headed NeXT and do want to
>place my windows on the second screen too. That's possible,
>of course, but at new login time, the windows of the Workspace
>Manager doesn't care about my second screen: the position is
>correct, but on the wrong, the main (login) screen.
>
>Bug or feature?
This sounds like the system that I have got.. NeXT Cube with Dimension
board and colour monitor added at a later date. What you probably need to
do is to log in as root, then, using the "screens" section in the
Preferences application, tell the NeXT that you want the second screen
probably the mono one since installing the Dimension drivers sets the
colour screen to be the only one on) that you want the mono screen to be
on, and where it is relative to the colour screen. This makes it
automatically sort out the boundarys on the screens for you. After that,
log out and then "log in" (this doesn't really) as exit (no password) --
this re-starts your window server.
Simon..
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4.1.3
>To: Robert Fischer <fischer@fokus.gmd.de>
>From: rob@lighthouse.com
>I have the same problem on my NeXTDimension system. I think it's a bug.
Under
>NS3.0 the Workspace used to rembember the screen the windows were on.
[...]
>:-(
> - Rob Kedoin
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4.1.4
To: scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
On Tue, 10 Aug 1993 scwg0600@edu.uiuc.cso.sumter wrote:
[...]
Things like that should really be made known since it isn't
in the standard documentation. I worked it out by experimenting in order
to get it right. It is possible to have the second screen logically
anywhere around the main one. (Think about taking 2 pieces of rectangular
card and moving one around the other while keeping them touching... those
are the logical screen positions that you can get. It can be a bit fidley
moving the mouse between screens if you don't have a large section of edge
touching, I have them set at exactly the same height to get a "double-
width" screen; useful with the number of windows I have open when
developing software.)
[...]
Simon..
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4.1.5
From: J.B. Nicholson-Owens <jeffo@owens.slip.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Two dimensions in the same cube
Steve,
I believe I made a mistake in an earlier letter (a letter I think you
wanted to include in your summary). Before I said (on the words of
someone who's name I've long since forgotten) that two dimensions in
the same cube would give you the possibility of having two two-headed
displays where each two-headed display showed the same thing. This is
incorrect. According to Brian L Gottlieb <brian@arl1.wustl.edu>, you
get a single three-headed display and you can use the preferences panel
to set them up like this:
(if you had two color screens and a Megapixel screen, for instance)
--------------
| |
| ND2 |
| |
| |
--------------
----------------------------
| || |
| ND1 || Megapixel |
| || |
| || |
----------------------------
You can drag windows between all three of them just as with one ND you
can drag windows between two monitors.
For me to comment on what happens with a third ND card in the same cube
(the maximum for one cube) would be total speculation. I would guess
you then could get four monitors to work in tandem. It seems odd to me
that with one ND you get two screens yet with two NDs you get only
three screens, but perhaps the second screen for the second ND card is
being shown "twice"; once by the initial ND and once by the second ND
where that screen happens to be in the same place every time (in this
diagram, I guess that location would be the position marked as ND1).
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4.2 ND memory check [see also 5.5, NeXTanswers FAQ - Question "R1"]
From: gwh@cs.mcgill.ca (Gene W HOMICKI)
Subject: Re: Nextdimension memory (how much ya got)
Date: 20 Jun 1993 05:35:05 GMT
[posted originally in comp.sys.next.admin]
At bootup time, a message should be displayed telling you how much
memory is installed on your dimension board. If you leave those silly
bootup tiffs up and don't watch the messages as your machine boots up,
just check out the /usr/adm/messages file.
--Gene
gwh@cs.mcgill.ca
PS 'grep video /usr/adm/messages' should do the trick.
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4.3 ND Booting Problem and Fix Under 3.1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ND gone belly up
From: hcole@tumbleweed.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 13 Aug 93 16:58:21 MDT
[...]
For those few who may still use cubes with ND boards, it
turned out that the power glitch over the weekend corrupted
my netinfo database. Restoring /etc/netinfo/local.nidb
cured the problem, and I'm now back up and running.
I also discovered that it is possible to reproduce this
anomolous behavior by turning off the ND board from the
preferences. In 3.1, this will put your machine in a
nearly unbootable state. That is - it will only boot if
you disable the netinfo crap ( I did this by disconnecting
my network wire), booting single user, and restoring the
databases.
[NOTE: In a later note to me, Howard says:
[...] I've had one email reply from a person saying
he can't reproduce this behavior on his ND cube. He didn't say
what OS version he was running, and hasn't replied to my query,
so at this point, mine is just a single data point (it is still
quite reproducible on my cube though). You may use my post if
you wish, but I think it should be checked out on other machines
just to be sure it isn't some peculiar combination of parameters
I have set on my cube.]
------------------------------------------------
4.4 ND Slots
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do I set up ND board? (The Answer)
Date: 18 Aug 1993 02:01:41 GMT
Many thanks to the numerous responses I received for this question.
Particular thanks to Sam Goldberger for taking time out to answer my pesky
questions. This problem has been solved.
First off, the ND board goes in Slot 2. That's the slot closest to the
power supply on the left side if yu're looking into the open back of the
cube. Secondly (and more to the point), there must be at least four SIMMS
present on the ND board for it to function. I was unaware of this and
after buying two more SIMMS and placing them on the board I installed the
ND and powered up the system and it worked immediately and perfectly (and
boy does it look good!). By the way, the SIMMS should be placed in the
slots on the leading edge first as opposed to the slots closer to the
center of the board.
[...]
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4.5 Video.app Bugfix
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no (Borre Ludvigsen)
Subject: Re: Apps that don't work with 3.1 - Icon & VideoApp
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1993 08:24:50 GMT
Thnks for the answers.
Icon needs to have the 3.0 patch, the 2.1 resources and the public window
server preference on to work.
As for VideoApp:
> From: Marcel Waldvogel <Marcel.Waldvogel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>
> To: borrel@ludvigsen.dhhalden.no
> Subject: Re: Apps that don't work with 3.1 - Icon & VideoApp
> Newsgroups:
comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs
> Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zurich, Switzerland
>
> In article <1993Jul30.220744.19823@dhhalden.no> you write:
> >Also VideoApp and DVR refuse to run (I have a NextDimensions):
> >
> > Jul 30 22:05:26 Workspace: Cannot exec /borrel/Apps/DVR/DVR : Bad
> > executable (or shared library)
> > Jul 30 22:05:52 Workspace: Cannot exec /NextDeveloper/Demos/VideoApp
:
> > Bad executable (or shared library)
>
> What does 'ebadexec <path to executable>' say?
>
> -Marcel
Marcel,
Thank you kindly for the tip! This appears to be the workaround for now:
> 3%ebadexec /NextDeveloper/demo/VideoApp
> ebadexec: executable file: /NextDeveloper/demo/VideoApp does not exist
(No
such file or directory)
The libvideo_s.A.shlib picked up from NS 3.0 just made the whole machine
freeze
up, so this appears to be the solution:
> 6%ls -l /usr/shlib/libvideo_s.A.shlib
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 18 Aug 1 07:29
/usr/shlib/libvideo_s.A.shlib ->
libMedia_s.A.shlib@
Both VideoApp and DVR work now (though the DVR animations are not as
smooth as
I seem to remember them).
Thanks again.
- Barre Ludvigsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Subject: The NeXTdimension Compendium, PART III
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 22:14:28 GMT
Message-ID: <CCC5s4.11r@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Keywords: NeXTdimension, pro and con, tips and tricks
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
The NeXTdimension Compendium (or, How I Spent My Summer Vacation)
PART III
5.0 NeXTdimension Lore [5.2, 5.3 not available yet - see note]
5.1 What happened to the C-Cube chip
5.2 Dick Phillips, MediaView, and the ND
5.3 NeXTWORLD's pre-production review of the ND
6.0 NeXTanswers about NeXTdimensions
6.1 1036 NeXTdimension Software
6.2 1037 NeXTdimension Upgrades
6.3 1052 NeXTdimension Configuration
6.4 1065 NeXTdimension demos
6.5 A NeXT FAQ fragment about ND's: color, memory
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5.0 NeXTdimension Lore
[Various items of historical interest.]
[NOTE: I decided to "go to press" without including the text and
references for 2 NeXTWORLD articles about the ND. I'll post them when I
get permission from NeXTWORLD. Article 5.2 (NeXTWORLD Fall 1992) is about
Dick Phillips, the Los Alamos physicist, advisor to Steve Jobs, and
creator of MediaView, a public-domain multimedia authoring environment. In
a sense, the ND was designed to run MediaView. Article 5.3 (NeXTWORLD
Premiere Issue, Jan/Feb 1991) is the pre-release review of the ND - when
the prototype boards had working hardware video compression.]
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5.1 What happened to the C-Cube chip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: Deja Vu
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 03:28:49 GMT
References: <Aug10.195550.61082@acs.ucalgary.ca>
<24a4dj$j2v@paperboy.osf.org>
> Thompson also worked with NeXT on the ND board. The
> compression chip they've developed uses the JPEG standard -
> NeXT D. designers wanted to put this onto the ND, the problem
> was the silicon was 18 months away from being shipped and is
> not a moving picture standard. NeXT wanted real time, 30
> frames per second compression. One of the Thompson designers
> who visited NeXT said the ND folks were hopelessy unrealistic
> about what was possible. ND people were probably just
> deceiving themselves.
I think that's an unfair assessment. NeXT's engineers had
WORKING 30 frames / second ND boards using C-Cube's prototype
chips, and the production schedule for the chips would allow the
board to ship on time.
Given that NeXTTIME manages 18 frames / second compression and 24
frames / second decompression in SOFTWARE, I don't think the
hardware compression they were looking for was unrealistic.
Back on the C-Cube front, when I spoke to engineers at NeXT what
I was told is that:
A) The production chips came out VERY late and were quite buggy
B) The production chips differred from the the prototypes and the
specification in a significant fashion that prevented I/O and
compression from occurring simultaneously, cutting the frame
rate to 15 / second.
> I believe Thompson and C-Cube are the only people working in
> this market.
I'm surprised anyone deals with C-Cube anymore after the schedule
slips and broken promises... and I'm certain there are other
players in the field (what about DVI? And a dozen other proposed
"standards"...)
> Oh, last thing I heard was that SGS-Thompson will take your
> order today, but delivery will take 12 months !
... or it may never ship at all. You takes your chances.
Blake W. Stone
[Sigh...If Wishes Were Fishes...:-)]
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5.2 Dick Phillips, MediaView, and the NeXTdimension
5.3 The NeXTWORLD pre-release review of the NeXTdimension
[coming soon to a Usenet site near you...]
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6.0 NeXTanswers about NeXTdimensions
[I culled these from NeXTanswers during my search. The originals are worth
consulting (especially for the illustrations!) I'm including these for
those readers who may not have access to NeXTanswers but who have access
to Usenet. These are posted with NeXT's permission, in their entirety,
although they arrived without dates when I downloaded them]
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6.1 NeXTanswers #1036
The NeXTdimension Software
NeXT is now shipping system software, distributed as an Installer package,
to support the NeXTdimension. This software is pre-installed by our
factory on new NeXT computers when the NeXTdimension board is installed.
The software is also included in the NeXTdimension Upgrade Kit and must be
installed on NeXT computers that customers upgrade with the NeXTdimension
board.
The NeXTdimension Installer package includes the most recent version of
the Video Applications Programming Interface (API). The Video API has
changed since Release 2.1. Because of this change, any computers on which
video development is being done should also have the NeXTdimension
software package installed. However, unless such development is being
done, non-NeXTdimension machines will gain nothing from the NeXTdimension
Installer package: the package is for NeXT-dimension support only.
The Installer package includes new components of the Window Server that
support
NeXTdimension. To determine whether the NeXTdimension package has been
installed on a computer, examine the following:
- Look for a package installation receipt.
Package installation receipts are kept in various folders in the
/NextLibrary/Packages folder; the receipt for the NeXTdimension Installer
package will be in the Standard folder.
- Check the PostScript version in the Workspace Manager Info
Panel; the PostScript version will be 2.1.55.3 for Release 2.1 without the
NeXTdimension package installed, and will be 2.1.55.4 with the package
installed.
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6.2 NeXTanswers #1037
NeXTdimension Upgrades
Now that NeXTdimension, NeXT's complete high-end color system, is
shipping, what about upgrades? The NeXTdimension Board Upgrades are also
available for NeXTcube systems. Customers interested in upgrading the
original 68030 NeXT Computer with a NeXT-dimension Board must address
several issues.
First, NeXTdimension computers are designed to provide optimum performance
with the 68040 NeXT systems. NeXT recommends adding NeXTdimension Boards
to original NeXT Computers that have been upgraded with 68040 hardware or
to new 68040 NeXTcubes. If the customer wishes to use the NeXTdimension
upgrade with a 68030 computer, a NeXTbus Interface Chip (NBIC ) is
necessary to ensure proper functioning.
Second, NeXTdimension computers are designed to be able to work with both
a monochrome MegaPixel Display and a MegaPixel Color Display
simultaneously. Many owners may prefer to operate the NeXTdimension with
only a MegaPixel Color Display. If your computer's serial number is lower
than AAK0016370, and you prefer to work without a monochrome display
connected to your computer, you must upgrade your computer's power supply
with a Power Supply Upgrade Kit.
Your existing configuration will determine whether or not you need to
purchase additional upgrades for the NeXT Computer. The table below can be
used to determine whether an NBIC or a power supply upgrade is required.
NeXTdimension Upgrades Required
Existing System Power Supply NBIC
NeXTcube 040 System Not needed Not needed
NeXT Computer 030 System, computer Not needed $35
serial #AAK0016370 or higher
NeXT Computer 030 System, computer Not needed $35
serial # AAK0016369 or lower, one monochrome
MegaPixel Display, and one MegaPixel Color Display
NeXT Computer 030 System, computer $295 $35
serial # AAK0016369 or lower, and one
MegaPixel Color Display
Installation
The NeXTdimension Board is a customer installable upgrade. Customers may
contact the NeXT Service Operations team at 1-800-848-NeXT for
installation assistance or for information about local NeXT Authorized
Service Centers, who will provide installation services. Service centers
may charge the customer for NeXTdimension Board installation at their
standard installation rates. The NeXTdimension installation manuals are
available through NeXTedge.
Part numbers and pricing for the NeXTdimension Board Upgrade include:
NeXTdimension Board Upgrade, 8 MB RAM, N7014-08, $3,995
NeXTdimension Board Upgrade, 16 MB RAM, N7014-16, $5,495
NeXTdimension Board Upgrade, 32 MB RAM, N7014-32, $8,485
Additional requirements for upgrading a 68030 computer include:
Power Supply Upgrade Kit, N7029, $295
NBIC, N7008, $35
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6.3 NeXTanswers #1052
The Key to NeXTdimension Configurations
The key to NeXTdimension configurations is simple don't set the monochrome
MegaPixel Display as the default screen if you configure the NeXTdimension
system with both monochrome and color displays. This configuration causes
the NeXTdimension to run very slowly.
The NeXTdimension can be run either with just a color display, or with
both monochrome and color displays simultaneously. For best performance
when running with both displays, the color display should be set as the
default screen. Make sure that your customers don't configure their
systems to default to the monochrome display. This configuration works,
but works very slowly.
For example, zooming to 200 percent in Scene while looking at a large TIFF
file takes 130 seconds with the slow configuration. With any other
NeXTdimension configuration, it takes only about 20 seconds.
How does this happen? With a new NeXTdimension system or upgrade to an
existing NeXTcube, the system will power up and, by default, use only the
color display. To configure a system with multiple displays, the user must
run the Preferences application and use the multiple screens preference
item to enable the monochrome screen.
The only way to get into the slow configuration is to drag the loginwindow
icon over the monochrome screen to set it as the zero screen. Make sure
NeXTdimension customers don't do this.
Returning a Slow Configuration to Normal
Existing customers who may have already set this configuration can set the
zero screen back to the color screen by dragging the loginwindow icon over
to the color screen.
Until we can revise the user documentation to warn NeXTdimension customers
about this problem, please communicate this tip to your customers.
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6.4 NeXTanswers #1065
NeXTdimension demos
What are the NeXTdimension demos, you ask? Great tools for capturing and
manipulating color graphics and video! We encourage you to get acquainted
with them.
Some of the demos found in /NextDeveloper/Demos highlight the video and
imaging capabilities of the NeXTdimension system, such as live video in,
video out, and 32-bit accelerated graphics. These demos are installed with
the NeXTdimension Updates package.
CompressionLab
This application allows you to open up any TIFF image, compress it by
using one of three techniques-JPEG, LZW, and PackBits-and save the
resulting compressed file. The ScrollView on the left displays the TIFF
image. The ScrollView on the right displays the image after compression
and expansion. The Result box displays some statistics on the compression.
This demo works on all NeXT systems.
NeXTtv
NeXTtv is like having a TV monitor in your computer. It allows you to
display images from a video source in a video-like window and to control
the hue, saturation, brightness, sharpness, and gamma. It also captures
video images and allows for still video output control. This demo requires
a NeXTdimension system.
ScreenScape
ScreenScape transparently sends a partial view of your NeXTdimension
screen to the NeXTdimension video output ports. This view automatically
tracks the mouse as you work. At any time, you can freeze a frame so that
it no longer follows the mouse. This demo requires a NeXTdimension.
VideoApp
Planning to write a video application? Complete with source (in
/NextDeveloper/ Examples/VideoApp), the VideoApp program lets you exercise
the video Application Programming Interface (API) of the NXLiveVideoView.
It also includes image grab and video output of graphics. This demo
requires a NeXTdimension.
what video inputs and outputs are available?
Two composite video inputs, which use an RCA connector, and one Svideo
input, which uses a Din-5 connector, are available on the NeXTdimension
board. There is one composite video output, one Svideo output, and one
analog RGB video output, which uses a D-9 connector.
RCA composite is a one-channel signal that combines information about
chrominance, luminance, picture, and synch. This is the most common
connector found on consumer-level video equipment. Svideo (also known as
Y/C) produces a higher-quality picture than RCA composite because it
splits up the chrominance and luminance information into two separate
signals. Finally, analog RGB, generally found only in professional video
equipment, splits up the signal into red, green, and blue channels. RGB
provides the highest-quality video signal.
how can I show a video on the NeXTdimension?
You can use either NeXTtv or VideoApp to show a video on your
NeXTdimension display. First, connect a video source (such as a VTR, VCR,
laser disc player, or camcorder) to one of the inputs on the NeXTdimension
board.
In NeXTtv, select the appropriate video input on the NeXTtv monitor.
You'll find three selections for input (Ln1, Ln2, Ln3) and one for output
(Out1). Ln1 is the first RCA composite input, Ln2 is the second RCA
composite input, and Ln3 is the S-video input. Out1 is output-either the
RCA composite output, S-video output, or RGB output. Press the Power
button to start your video source and turn on the display.
To show a video in VideoApp, select the appropriate input in the source
section of the VideoView Inspector panel. SRC1 and SRC2 are the two RCA
composite video inputs, and SVHS is the S-Video input. Start your video
source and turn on VideoView by clicking the Start button on the VideoView
Inspector panel.
what are the up and down arrows on the Palette panel for?
You can use the up and down arrows on the Palette panel in NeXTtv to bring
a selection on the monitor to the front or send a selection to the back
(see figure 2). This applies to a live video grab selection or a TIFF file
that has been dragged or dropped into a NeXTtv window. You may have to
click the arrows more than once.
can I overlay characters or an image on the video?
You can overlay any image on the video on the NeXTtv monitor, but you
can't send it to video out.
how can I control my video device from the NeXTdimension?
Not a lot of consumer electronics equipment, whether it costs two hundred
dollars or two thousand, has direct serial control connections or the
intelligence to use a serial control protocol. In most cases, in order to
advance or rewind to a particular frame, you'll need a device capable of
converting a signal from serial to the proprietary control language of the
video source you're using. These are some of the available conversion
devices:
Pioneer has a PCM (pulse code modulation) input that accepts their
proprietary SR-Remote protocol. This feature was originally developed to
connect various Pioneer components and control them from one remote
control.
Sony Corporation has done the same thing by adding a port called
Control-S, Control-L/LANC. This type of control is found on many types of
Sony machines.
The SIAIII box from Visual Data Systems converts a signal from serial into
Pioneer SR-Remote or Sony Control-S. This control is asynchronous.
Such a conversion device is the only additional hardware you'll need. You
still have to write the application to control the video source, however.
Note: A few devices do allow direct serial communication. Two laser disc
players, the Pioneer LDB-4200 and the Sony MDP-1100 are lower in cost.
(They cost approximately $800 and $1,500.) The Vbox is another example. It
is Sony's new video/computer interface CL-1000. It can accept serial input
(ViSCA-a protocol invented by Sony) and translate it into a Control-S or
Control-L/LANC protocol (nonserial) for controlling such devices as
Handycams , Video-8, Hi8 VCRs, and even Sony laser disc players. Future
consumer video devices from Sony will have ViSCA ports built in.
can I save a single frame on the NeXTdimension?
You can save an entire frame of video using NeXTtv or VideoApp. With
NeXTtv, you can also save a selected portion of a frame.
To save a single frame of video using VideoApp, follow these steps:
1. Start a video from the VideoView Inspector panel.
2. Choose Select All.
3. Click the Stop button to freeze the video.
4. Click the Grab button. This will bring up the Save panel.
5. Name the file and click OK.
Now you've saved a single frame of video as a TIFF file.
To save an entire frame using NeXTtv, follow these instructions:
1. Start a video on the display.
2. Click the camera to pause the video on the display.
3. Choose Copy from the Edit menu.
4. Start up Icon (located in /NeXTDeveloper/Demos).
5. Choose New from the Image menu in Icon.
6. Choose Paste from the Edit menu in Icon.
7. Choose Save As from the Image menu in Icon.
8. Name the image and click OK.
To save a portion of a frame using NeXTtv, complete the following
instructions:
1. Start a video on the monitor.
2. Click the camera to pause the video on the monitor.
3. Choose Palette from the Tools menu in NeXTtv.
4. Click the button with the square and the arrow in the Palette panel.
5. Select a rectangular area on the screen by dragging the arrow over the
desired area and releasing the mouse button.
Now follow steps 3 through 8 in the previous procedure.
can I set a still video as the background in NeXTtv or VideoApp?
Yes, both NeXTtv and VideoApp have this capability.
To set a still video as the background using NeXTtv, follow these steps:
1. Start up NeXTtv.
2. Select Out1 on the monitor.
3. Click the Power button on the monitor.
4. Choose Tools from the NeXTtv menu.
5. Click Palette to bring up the Palette panel.
6. Select Still Video in the Output Background section of the Palette
panel.
7. Select an image in the File Viewer.
8. Drag the icon of that image into the NeXTtv monitor screen.
To set a still video as the background using VideoApp, follow these steps:
1. Start up VideoApp.
2. Click Output in the VideoView Inspector panel.
3. Click the Open Image button in the VideoView Inspector panel. An Open
panel will appear.
4. Select the image that you want for the background and click OK.
5. If you want the image to fill up the entire VideoView Inspector panel,
choose Scale to Fit. (This feature is not available in NeXTtv.)
Can I set the background color or gradation in NeXTtv or VideoApp?
You can set the background color and gradation only in NeXTtv. To do so,
complete the following steps:
1. Start up NeXTtv.
2. Select Out1 on the monitor.
3. Click the Power button.
4. Choose Tools from the NeXTtv menu.
5. Click Palette to bring up the Palette panel.
6. Double-click the border of the Drawing Color box to bring up the Colors
panel.
7. Select Color in the Output Background section of the Palette panel.
8. Select a color in the Colors panel and drag a swatch of the color you
want into the Drawing Color box in the Palette panel.
9. If the color doesn't appear on your screen, click Ln1, Ln2, or Ln3 and
then click Out1.
To set the background gradation, complete steps 1 through 6 for setting a
background color and then continue as follows:
1. Choose Tools from the NeXTtv menu.
2. Click Gradations to bring up the Gradations box.
3. Drag a swatch of the color you want from the Colors panel into either
of the two small squares on the Gradations panel.
------------------------------------------------
6.5 NeXTdimension FAQ's [oiks, I forgot where I got this; I think I
downloaded it from sonata or orst. My apologies!]
*** Subject: I4. How many colors can NeXT machines display?
[...]
NeXTdimension can combine 8 bits of red, green and blue
for 16,777,216. There are not 16 million points on the
display so all can not be displayed at once. Further
display technology limits the usable color space.
None of the NeXT products support color look up tables
where the user can define their own color palette on a per
window basis. This feature is useful for displaying
images which have adaptive lookup tables, and display
pure grayscale images on the color NeXTstation. On the
NeXTdimension images can be converted to full 24 bit
representation.
*** Subject: I5. Why is my machine so slow when I run the monochrome and
NeXTdimension displays?
There is a bug with the window system in which if you select
the monochrome display as your primary display the
server will be much much slower. The solution for those
wishing to use both displays is to select the color
(NeXTdimension) display as the primary display. The
most optimal configuration at present with the
NeXTdimension is to run only the color display.
*** Subject: R1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
[...]
NeXTdimension boards (i860):
These boards have 8 SIMM slots. SIMMs must be installed in
groups of four on the NeXTdimension board.
Use 72-pin 1, 4, or 8 MB SIMMs with 80 ns or faster access
time. The SIMMs are organized 256Kx32 or 1Mx32 for
non-parity systems, and 256Kx36 and 1Mx36 for parity.
[If 8 MB SIMMs are used in all 8 slots, then you can install 64 MB on the
NeXTdimension board. While this was never suggested by NeXt to my
knowledge, it seems to work fine.]
__________________________________________________________________________
_____
T-t-that's all, folks!
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2263HA and NeXTstation
Date: 25 Aug 1993 22:27:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25gp01$l6m@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <25gghi$32e@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
In article <25gghi$32e@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> paul@argon.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Paul R
Tognato-Haddad) writes:
>Howdy,
>
>Short and simple. Does any one know if the Fujitsu M2263HA works with a NeXT?
I believe "HA" model comes with *differential* SCSI port rather than
single-ended type used by most machines including NeXT.
So, it won't work as is, but with an adapter it will.
Call up Fujitsu and ask for sources of a differential to single-ended
SCSI converter. I heard such a thing is available.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Subject: help needed with NS/IP hardware requirement and performance
Message-ID: <2C7BD89D.8614@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 25 Aug 93 21:24:45 GMT
Thanks to all those who sent me info on getting the hardware compatibility
Guide. After reading it, I have the following questions.
(1) my pc: 486/33 8mb ram, 125mb ide hard disk, svga card with 1mb memory.
according to the Hardware Guide, these all fall in the minimum
requirements for a user Environment 2-bit grayscale setup.
I intend to use this machine on the network with other unix
workstations, including a NeXT 040 monostation. Most of the time the
machine will be used as window access to other machines and to do
some black-white x-y plots and contour plots plus some word processing
The total 125MB of system disk can be used exclusively for NeXT Step.
All user files and some software can be stored in a separate
disk attached to another machine through NFS. My concern here is:
Is this minimum system going to be usable at all or too
slow to be tolerable?
Currently the PC is just used as a window to other machines through
eithernet. It is hardly used for anything else. I hope with NeXT Step
we can put it to better use.
Any info from Anybody who has experience with similar setup as mine
will be appreciated.
(2) The Hardware guide mentions Adaptec 1542B or 1542C SCSI adapter.
But it says it may have a problem when setting the CD_ROM id to be 0.
But the CD-ROM id has to be 0 if NS 3.1 is to be installed on a IDE
hard disk. Anybody had this problem? How did you solve it?
If I can make NS 3.1 work on this minimum machine by just buying
a SCSI adapter, I will imediately order a copy of NS/FIP.
Thank you and I apologize for the long post.
Feng Liu
UC, Irvine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: karl@khaos.com (Karl Hanzel)
Subject: MOD cartridge compatibility?
Message-ID: <1993Aug24.135056.3860@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: karl@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 13:50:56 GMT
Hello,
I'm considering a Sony SMO-S501-11 Magneto-Optical drive. Does anyone
know if the cartridges for this drive are compatible with whatever NeXT
uses for MODs (Canon?)? In otherwords, can i use this drive to share data
with Cubes having internal MODs? Are MOD cartridges compatible "across
the board"... is there a cartridge "standard" that dictates this?
This may be of general enough interest to post an answer, but please email
me as well, so's i don't miss it.
Thanks much!
pax,
Karl
*----->
Karl Hanzel
karl@khaos.com (NeXT Mail) or hanzel@comet.ucar.edu
(303)443-6602 -home- (303)497-8479 -work-
--
Karl Hanzel
karl@khaos.com (NeXT Mail) or hanzel@comet.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: anderson (Ken Anderson)
Subject: New ATI card (rev 6) works well
Message-ID: <1993Aug25.140508.258@biztech.com>
Sender: news@biztech.com
Organization: Biztech, Inc.
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 14:05:08 GMT
We have upgraded the ATI UltraPro in our Gateway 2000 system to the new
(rev 6) board, and bit blitting speed has visibly improved.
Ken Anderson
anderson@biztech.com
Stamford, CT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hbergh@nl.oracle.com (Herbert vd Bergh)
Subject: driver for fax modem Dynalink Ufomate wanted
Message-ID: <CCCxo6.2wE@nl.oracle.com>
Keywords: fax modem driver
Sender: news@nl.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Europe
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 08:16:53 GMT
I tried to use my Dynalink Ufomate fax/data modem with a
NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 3.0. According to the docs it only
supports one particular fax modem (forgot which), and there were
two choices in the install panel. I noticed the drivers for the
two choices were linked to each other, so they probably are the
same.
As you can imagine, my modem didn't work. It did do some fax
like things, like beeping after it dialed, but failed to
transmit faxes. So I think it came close, but not close enough.
The question is: does anyone know of a driver for this fax modem
or any other fax modem? Source code would be good, so I can
adapt it to my modem. Instructions on how to write a driver
would be nice too. And perhaps someone can point me to some
information on the fax modem commands and fax protocol, because
all I got with my modem was a list of the fax commands.
Thanks,
Herbert van den Bergh
hbergh@nl.oracle.com
Newsgroups: comp.music,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mk@musik.auc.dk (Martin Knakkergaard)
Subject: MIDI-interface for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1993Aug26.102822.2550@vaxc.aud.auc.dk>
Sender: news@vaxc.aud.auc.dk (USENET News System)
Organization: Aalborg University Center, Denmark
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 10:28:22 GMT
We re having some difficulties trying to MIDI-interface our
NeXT-computers. Using the Altech MIDIFace LX (for the Mac) seems to be
impossible although the NeXT docs claims that any Mac-interface will do.
We ve tried using different cables with no lock (someone mentioned that
the cables very often caused the failure). However, utilizing the MTP_II
does the trick, proving that the NeXT-MIDI-Driver and the connections
we ve made are OK. So there should be no problem except that we don t want
to buy a lot of MTP_IIs - they are to expensive, and we don t need the
kind of power they offer in the first place - but would like to use a more
economical solution instead. Does anybody know which of the many
Mac-MIDI-interfaces will work with the NeXT??
Martin Knakkergaard
Dept.of Music, Aalborg University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: The NeXTdimension Compendium, PART I
Message-ID: <CCCKuF.x5@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <CCC5nF.zH@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 03:39:51 GMT
In article <CCC5nF.zH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven
C Weintz) writes:
#The NeXTdimension Compendium (or, How I Spent My Summer Vacation)
#
#think of why you would want more than 64 MB of RAM on the NeXTdimension
#board. The ND's RAM primary function is to store the screen image, which,
#mind you, is huge: Over 1,000,000 pixels X 32 bits per pixel = 32 MB of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not to nitpick but that's 32 megabits or 4 megabytes.
32 bits/8 bits/byte = 4 bytes.
4 bytes per pixel = 4 megabytes per screen.
Kent
BTW - The info is good since I just got a ND board for my system
about 1 month ago. ;-) --- Very cool
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From: hibbitt@strings1.ph.qmw.ac.uk (John Hibbitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP LaserJet 4 + Black H/ware problems
Date: 26 Aug 1993 15:11:23 GMT
Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK
Message-ID: <25ijqr$p9l@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
We have an HP LaserJet 4 connected a NeXTStation which is taking a very long
time to print. We're using (perhaps wrongly) the 600dpi 'ppd' supplied with
NeXTSTEP for Intel. Perhaps the cabling/handshaking is wrong ?.
Does anyone have such a configuration working satisfactorily ?.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
John Hibbitt
Dept of Physics
Queen Mary & Westfield College (University of London)
Mile End Road
London E1 4NS
United Kingdom
Email: J.Hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk (including NeXTMail)
Tel: +44 71-975-5055
From: mbecker@cs.uml.edu (Mark E. Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 68030 NeXT cube locks up on boot. HELP
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 26 Aug 1993 13:44:00 GMT
Organization: A hair above random noise
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25ien0$j2e@ulowell.uml.edu>
Summary: '030 hangs on Sound Out test.
Keywords: broken older NeXT
Hello *
Forgive me if this is posted to the wrong newsgroup; it appeared to be
a good place to start. Flames to /dev/null, constructive comments
welcome.
----
An acquaintance without net access has an older ('030, FPU, 8M RAM,
340M disk, monochrome) NeXT boxes that has recently malfunctioned.
Failure mode:
Turn the unit on using the keyboard ON key.
Everything seems to power up. However, the unit hangs at the "Sound
Out" self-test. The hang is not consistant.
If the unit manages to get past the Sound Out test, the keyboard and
mouse don't work.
Questions:
1. Shop repair? Does anyone repair these things anymore?
2. Self repair? Suggestions as to what might be dead/broke would be
appreciated. I'm no stranger to things like broken cables.
Your time is appreciated.
Regards,
Mark
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
| Mark Becker <mbecker@cs.uml.edu> | #include <std.disclaimer>|
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
From: powell@tropic.aoml.erl.gov (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Hard drive info
Date: 26 Aug 1993 15:23:04 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <25ikgo$j3e@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
I am looking for a used/cheap/or kit SCSI hard drive that I can use as
additional storage for my new slab colorstation at home. Currently I have
a 105 MB HD. Im thinking of keeping it as the system and swap drive and
adding an external 400-500 MB drive for most storage. Can someone point
me to where I can find specs that will help determine which SCSI drives
will be appropriate and what I will have to do to get them to work on the
slab. This kind of stuff used to be posted occasionally as an FAQ but I
havent seen it for a while. Thanks!
--
Dr. Mark D. Powell
Research Meteorologist, CCM (Swimmer, Windsurfer, user of NEXTSTEP)
NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply)
Miami, Fl 33149
From: David.Kelman@launchpad.unc.edu (David Kelman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Fax/Modem advice needed
Date: 26 Aug 1993 17:11:50 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25iqsm$2bl@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Keywords: modem fax help
Hello all,
I'm thinking about getting a 14.4 faxmodem, and am curious what
all people recommend as far as brand. Data transmission is more important
to me than the fax portion, and I'm not looking to spend a lot of money
(this is for home use). I am interested in setting up a SLIP line on it
as well. I've got a 25MHz color slab running 3.1. Thanks in advance
David Kelman
kelman@niehs.nih.gov
--
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North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
internet: laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kathys@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Kathy Sturdevant)
Subject: Optical Drive cleaning
Message-ID: <1993Aug26.172954.20576@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov>
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 17:29:54 GMT
Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about the extra
spins my NeXT cube was making when a disk was inserted.
In their responses, everyone said it needed cleaning. Rather than
try it myself with q-tips, I took the suggestion to track down the
cleaning kit.
The cleaning kit is available. I ordered it from Bell Atlantic
1-800-499-6398 option 2, part #S3902, cost $25 + tax. Apparently
it is a disk and I was told it could be reused.
Thanks,
kathys
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP: problems with 3COM509/TP ?
Message-ID: <1993Aug25.191545.10947@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug23.140131.24698@alf.uib.no>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 19:15:45 GMT
In article <1993Aug23.140131.24698@alf.uib.no> bav@bergen.siodata.no
(Bjorn Asle Valde) writes:
> Are there any known problems with the TP 3C509 ?
The twisted pair port on the EISA version doesn't work with NS3.1. I don't
know whether or not it will work with 3.2. The coax port works fine, but
is very slow because the 3C509 has such a small cache.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Subject: Parallel port doesn't work on NS/FIP
Message-ID: <CCDqo8.Fwp@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 18:43:18 GMT
Are there any reasons why a parallel port would not be able to
work under NS/FIP. I've been trying to get my NS/FIP to work
with my Deskjet, and it appears that the message is getting
garbled.
Here's what happens! The deskjet is set up for the parallel port as
an "Unknown" printer. I send straight text to the printer which
the deskjet should interpret as text and simply spit characters
to the page. The printer receives the message, does a line feed,
and then turns the busy light on. The busy light stays on
forever.
The printer work fine under DOS and Windows. Why would it
bomb under NextStep.
Brad Wright
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: drarick@panther.weeg.uiowa.edu (David Rarick)
Subject: NeXT MegaPixel as video monitor?
Sender: news@news.uiowa.edu (News)
Message-ID: <1993Aug26.183427.11756@news.uiowa.edu>
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 18:34:27 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Is there a way to use my 21" MegaPixel as a video monitor? I have an extra
monitor cable, so that I can use the plug from one end of it.
--
David A. Rarick
________________________________________
NeXTmail: drarick@panther.weeg.uiowa.edu
From: mpelzshe@man104-1.ucsd.edu (Michael Pelz-Sherman)
Newsgroups: comp.music,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: MIDI-interface for NeXT?
Message-ID: <53763@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Date: 26 Aug 93 19:15:18 GMT
References: <1993Aug26.102822.2550@vaxc.aud.auc.dk>
Sender: news@sdcc12.ucsd.edu
Followup-To: comp.music
Organization: University of California, San Diego
In article <1993Aug26.102822.2550@vaxc.aud.auc.dk> mk@musik.auc.dk (Martin Knakkergaard) writes:
>We re having some difficulties trying to MIDI-interface our
>NeXT-computers. Using the Altech MIDIFace LX (for the Mac) seems to be
[etc.]
I would guess that the Altech box is not self-powered - i.e. - it
draws its power from the Mac. If that's the case, it probably means
that the NeXT serial ports require a self-powered interface. There
are plenty of those around which cost less than the MTP.
-Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
From: gadallah@wu2.wl.aecl.ca (Larry Gadallah; WL-B300-1-115; x2603)
Subject: NeXT and SCSI disk wisdom sought...
Message-ID: <1993Aug26.195101.21485@cu23.crl.aecl.ca>
Followup-To: poster
Summary: Help with SCSI disk configurations
Keywords: SCSI NeXT Controller
Sender: gadallah@wu2.wl.aecl.ca (Larry Gadallah)
Organization: AECL Research, Whiteshell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 19:51:01 GMT
I am contemplating putting a large (> 1 Gb) fast (< 10 mS)
drive into a cube. A number of questions occurred to me
regarding this:
1. How fast is the NeXT controller? Is it worth the expense
to go from a 10 mS drive to a 8 mS drive, or is the
controller sufficiently slow to remove any performance
advantage?
2. Does the NeXT OS support command disconnection (I forget
the exact word) where commands are issued to a SCSI device
and then the controller disconnects; The device reconnects
to the controller when it is done.
3. What kind of disk configuration produces the best results:
a single large drive or a group of smaller drives?
Thanks in advance,
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: woo@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu (J. W. Wooten)
Subject: Serial Interfacing Lab Instruments?
Message-ID: <1993Aug26.200930.20788@ornl.gov>
Sender: usenet@ornl.gov (News poster)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 20:09:30 GMT
I have a laboratory with 12 Turbo NeXTs that we use to assist schools in
science and math education. At present we use it mostly for internet training
and some computer training. I'd like to expand its use by adding units that
use instruments to measure salinity, ph, temperature, force, magnetic field,
current, etc. I'd like for them to use the serial interface if possible so
that they will port to other platforms.
Does anyone have sources for the equipment, descriptions, software for the NeXT
Turbo, modules which use these, etc.?
Would also be willing to use units which use the DSP, but don't want to invest
much time or energy in them.
Dr. John Wooten
Educational Technology Coordinator
Oak Ridge National Laboratory.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert)
Subject: Maximum RAM for color slab?
Message-ID: <1993Aug26.193236.11763@icaen.uiowa.edu>
Sender: usenet@icaen.uiowa.edu (UseNet News daemon)
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 19:32:36 GMT
What's the maximum memory that can be put in a color station, and what
configurations are legal? Is there some sort of hardware/software limit of
32M, or has someone out there succeeded in putting in more? How about using
8M or 16M SIMMS? I know space is tight in there and doubled-sided SIMMS won't
work, but how about those composed of higher-density chips? (4Mx4 or 16Mx1)
I'm not going to buy right now, SIMM prices are too high, but I'm interested
in knowing what my options are for the future. Thanks!
--
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"Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would
not have been informed." --Someone more clever than I
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From: cary@fiu.edu (Cary Bakker)
Subject: Problems with SCSI hard drive: MAXTOR MXT540SL
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 20:40:06 GMT
Message-ID: <CCDw2u.9py@fiu.edu>
Sender: news@fiu.edu (Usenet Administrator)
I am posting this to see if anyone has any information
concerning the above SCSI hard drive. I am using it with
an Intel-GX running NeXT 3.1.
PROBLEMS:
-As of yet, files have been mysteriously lost and found
with no apparent reason.
The most recent episode damaged system files making it impossible
to boot the computer after it became hung. The first problem
occured before I started using this computer, but also required
reinstallation of the operating system.
EXACT DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HAPPENED:
- The system seemed to be bogged down when I was using the
workspace manager to scroll through a list of files (not doing
anything really). When I went to work on a project I had, everything
in my user directory was gone. I was trying to figure out what
was going on, and wanted to see if I could copy anything to the
directory. When I copied a file into the directory that lost its files
, all of the other files reappeared. I continued working and then
all of the sudden the system froze up on me and I had to reboot
the computer.
Does anyone have any information on this kind of problem?
Also, I noticed that if the SCSI drive is not terminated properly
it will appear to work properly, and be munching data at
the same time. The model that I have is internally terminated
so that can theoretically be ruled out as the cause.
Thanks for the help,
Cary A. Bakker
From: C622245@mizzou1.missouri.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: advice wanted on purchase of mono nextstation turbo
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 15:29:36 CDT
Organization: University of Missouri
Message-ID: <16C36D9E0.C622245@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
I'm about to purchase my first computer and have narrowed the choice down to
either a used nextstation turbo (monochrome) or an IBM 486 (66mhz, 24RAM, 500
HD) running NS/FIP. I can get both for about the same price. I am interested
in anyone's opinion about either choice, or about ns/fip in general.
From: jon@starburst.umd.edu (Jonathan Kruger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP: problems with 3COM509/TP ?
Date: 26 Aug 1993 21:01:14 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <25j8aqINNg3q@cbl.umd.edu>
References: <1993Aug23.140131.24698@alf.uib.no> <1993Aug25.191545.10947@BlueRose.com>
m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes:
>The coax port works fine, but is very slow because the 3C509 has such
>a small cache.
In my experience, things like heavy ethernet traffic, a brief
interruption in the cable, or unplugging the T-connector from the card
will all cause NS 3.1 to panic when using the 3c509.
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Maximum RAM for color slab?
Message-ID: <1993Aug27.013449.27918@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Aug26.193236.11763@icaen.uiowa.edu>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 01:34:49 GMT
In article <1993Aug26.193236.11763@icaen.uiowa.edu> dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu
(Doug Siebert) writes:
>
> What's the maximum memory that can be put in a color station, and what
> configurations are legal? Is there some sort of hardware/software limit of
> 32M, or has someone out there succeeded in putting in more? How about
using
> 8M or 16M SIMMS? I know space is tight in there and doubled-sided SIMMS
won't
> work, but how about those composed of higher-density chips? (4Mx4 or 16Mx1)
>
> I'm not going to buy right now, SIMM prices are too high, but I'm
interested
> in knowing what my options are for the future. Thanks!
NeXT-Hardware-RAM-FAQ
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: R1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin
"Announcing NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo"
NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz),
NeXTcube (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 16
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 30-pin low profile
SIMM access rating: 100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB
The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in
the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the
small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install
the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide
the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously.
Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT machines,
but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040 boards with
ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity memory to detect
parity errors.
[One user adds the following unverified claims:]
It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not
boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb
parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an
exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from Next.
You can pay $30, or you may be able to squawk and get one for free. I
have found Next to be pretty responsive, once I find the right person.
[Jimmie Quan, NeXT Hardware Service, adds:]
The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this series
of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the second paragraph.
NeXTdimension boards (i860):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4, 8 MB (256Kx32, 1Mx32, 2Mx32)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB (32 MB official NeXT)
NeXT didn't officially bless the use of 8 MB SIMMs, but they seem to
fit and work.
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
Faster SIMMS (80 ns) don't make the memory system work any
faster than the 100 ns units.
NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 4
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 128 MB
For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns will
be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to 100 ns.
NeXT manufacturing introduced the new 25 MHz NeXTstation CPU board
into production in late June '92. To verify which SIMM type your machine
uses, check the system's memory configuration. You can do this by using
the ROM monitor s print memory configuration command m. Start with
your machine powered down. Press the Power key to power on. As soon as the
message Testing system... disappears, press
command-command-tilde (~ on the numeric keyboard). Under these
circumstances, this will access the ROM monitor. In the ROM monitor,
type m and press return. Turbo-designed boards including new 25 MHz
NeXTstations and all Turbo systems will return messages reporting
the memory configuration contained in four sockets (sockets 0 -3); old
25 MHz boards will return messages for more than four sockets (usually
8). You can tell a Turbo-designed board, and the accompanying 72 pin, 70
nanosecond SIMMs, by the fact it only reports information for only four
sockets.
[John Graves, Hardware Engineering, NeXT Computer, Inc. adds]
The memory system has programmable memory timing such that the number
of processor clocks needed to access a given amount of data can be
tailored to the speed of the memory installed. 70 ns memory is just
enough faster than 80 ns memory to allow the cpu to access the data with
fewer clock cycles. This improves memory system performance.
"70 ns" memory is faster than "80 ns" memory in many parameters other
than just RAS access time. The faster CAS access time in particular
allows the memory system to respond quicker to burst (16 bytes) bus
transfers.
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: R2. What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
The tool came with 68040 upgrade kits for NeXTcubes.
It really makes removing SIMMs easy. It looks like a dental tool: about
six inches long with a 1/2" long head offset at 90 degrees. To remove
SIMMs, you slip the head into the hole on one side of the SIMM, rest the
head on the SIMM socket next to the SIMM you are pulling, and pivot the
tool back, using the simple fulcrum to gently pry the SIMM up about 1/8"
from the socket on that side. Repeat on the other side, and the SIMM can be
then removed by hand.
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: R3. Where can I purchase memory for a NeXT?
This list contains only a few vendors; prices listed may change and are
provided as examples only.
There is significant day-to-day fluctuation in prices, especially
since the destruction of a factory in Japan in July that manufactured
resin used in chips. Prices are currently very high.
First Tech Stratum Technologies
Austin, TX
800-533-1744
512-258-3570
512-258-3689 (fax)
[Prices current as of 11-Jun-93] [A sad reminder of how cheap prices were
before the current prices]
30 Pin SIMMs
1x8-70ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 30
4x8-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 127
1x9-80ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 37.50
4x9-80ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 147
72 Pin SIMMs
1x32-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 129
2x32-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 260
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 555
1x36-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 147.50
2x36-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 285
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 640
Lifetime Warranty.
Marco International
800-621-4668 (Within US/Canada)
303-449-9191
800 447 8448 (CT Office)
[Prices current as of 6-May-93]
30 Pin SIMMs
1x8-80ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 30
4x8-80ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 125
72 Pin SIMMs
1x32-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 135
2x32-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 255
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 540
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 580
-70ns 32 Mb SIMM $2300 (no parity)
Parity available for some sizes.
Lifetime Warranty, toll-free support, 24hr RMA.
"NeXT certified".
Chip Merchant
9541 Ridgehaven Court
San Diego, CA 92123
(800) 426-6375
South Coast Electronics
Tustin, CA
(800) 289-8801
714-669-9503
Impediment
(617) 837-8877
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Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: michaell@swdev.research.otc.com.au (Michael Lofquist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ACER running NS ??
Date: 26 Aug 1993 23:01:37 GMT
Organization: Technical Development Group, Telstra International
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25jfch$kgf@turin.research.otc.com.au>
Anybody out there tried to install and run NeXTSTEP
on a ACER 486 machine with success.
Email back if possible ??
Michael
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hard Drive runs a little hot; suggestions?
Date: 26 Aug 1993 20:20:31 -0700
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Message-ID: <25juhv$nvo@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
I recently acquired a 2 gig HD 3.5" and it runs a little hot.
Can I stick something underneath it in our NeXTstation. It
currently sits on a bracket that sits on the motherboard. I've
got it isolated in an external chassis but payed a little more to
be able to stick it in the NeXTstation. Any ideas?
maurices
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fax/Modem advice needed
Keywords: modem fax help
Message-ID: <Aug.27.00.11.03.1993.6356@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 27 Aug 93 04:11:03 GMT
References: <25iqsm$2bl@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
David.Kelman@launchpad.unc.edu (David Kelman) writes:
> I'm thinking about getting a 14.4 faxmodem, and am curious what
>all people recommend as far as brand. Data transmission is more important
If fancy features are not important I would go with the Zyxel 1496e. It can go up to 16.8kbs proprietary and can be had for about 295.00. This still does a lot of fancy features and is rock solid. The 1496e+ will go up to 19.2kbps and has advanced voice mail compression ability--it goes for about 100bux more.
The max througput on the 96e is 57kbps (w/compressiong).
"" 96e+ is 76kps (w/compression).
Darn fast modems and expandable.
If you need a bit cheaper then the Supra Line of modems is good too.
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wolf@beta.lanl.gov (David R. Wolf)
Subject: Telebit T2SAA Modem - Need help
Message-ID: <1993Aug27.005940.26614@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 00:59:40 GMT
I need help with the following modem, since it arrived w/o manual.
The modem is a telebit T2SAA, ROM BA4.00.
What I need to know is how do I configure it for 19.2 / pep mode?
David Wolf, wolf@beta.lanl.gov
From: marsella@athos.rutgers.edu (Stacy Marsella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: sound from a headless next
Message-ID: <Aug.23.17.29.23.1993.28690@athos.rutgers.edu>
Date: 23 Aug 93 21:29:24 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
How does one get sound output from a monitorless cube? In particular,
what is the nature of the sound output that the next cpu provides the
monitor - is it a digital stream or is it the actual analog signal?
And if it is a digital stream, are there any suggestions as to how to
go about converting it to audio.
Thanks for any help.
Stacy Marsella
marsella@ruccs.rutgers.edu
From: kdae1372@servus09.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Ernst Willand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP NSFIP can not rcognize RAM properly PLEASE
Date: 27 Aug 1993 08:23:27 GMT
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Uni Stuttgart
Message-ID: <25kg9v$9eq@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Hello,
I'm trying to install NeXTSTEP for Intel on:
ASUS-EISA-Local board 486 SV1 (16MB Ram, 486DX2-66)
DPT 2022/95 SCSII Controler (no CACHE)
Fiutsu 1GB SCSII Hard-disk (unit 0)
Texel CD-Rom (unit 1)
ATI-ULTRA VLB
and always run into trouble. It seems to me that NeXTSTEP can't recognize
that 16 MB Ram are installed. Assuming to have 32 MB Ram it writes
some parts of the cernel into nirwana and fails. Is that possible?
DOS runs fine with Harddisk and CD-Rom and recognizes the Ram-Configuration
properly.
Here is a typical boot up result:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
NeXT boot1f v1.17
........................
>> NeXTSTEP 486 boot v1.17
>> 638 conventional / 15360 extended memory <-- look here
Type ? for information about advanced startup options
boot:
reading system config .... instance0.table
loading mach kernel
..+++++++++++++.+.+..
NeXTMach 3.1: thu Apr 23.44.40 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk_149.22.3.
obj~2/REALEASE_I386
Physical memory = 32.00 megabytes
using 81 buffers containing 0.63 megabytes of memory <-- and look here!!
available memory=28.92 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = e76
CPU: EISA id 06754901
slot 2: EISA id 1214a410
Warning: Using internal backup device configuration tables
PCPointer probe: mouseInit failure
Registering: PCKeyboard0
Registering: PCPointer0
Resetting SCSII Bus ...
Registering: fc0
Registering: fd0
Registering: fd0a
class 'SMC16' not linked into application
configureDriver: Couldn't find class named 'SMC16'
class 'EtherEspress16' not linked into application
configureDriver: Couldn't find class named 'EtherExpress16'
Registering: VGADisplay0
Registering: event0
Registering: kmDevice0
No CD-ROM drive found
use sd%d, hd%d or fd%d
root device ?
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Now the results are the same if I input sd0 or hd0 (Nextstep is
allready partly on Harddisk and boot from Harddisk leads to the same
results)
What follows is one screen full of garbage, the PC-Speaker gives a
never ending sound and the last line says:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Raise RDP exeption 6 code 3 subcode 0
Waiting for RDP conection (type 'c' to continue)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Is there anyone around with similar problems or could someone
help me in solving this Problem? (PLEASE)
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Institute for Geotechnique
University of Stuttgart Pfaffenwaldring 35 70569 Stuttgart
From: yates@hiker.sas.upenn.edu (John H. Yates)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: extending printer cable
Message-ID: <143461@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 27 Aug 93 12:26:48 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia
I was told this would not work but is there a workaround?
I extended the printer serial cable with an HP Serial Printer/
Plotter cable (DB9 F - DB25 M) and an AT Serial Adapter
DB9 M - DB25 F (so effectively it was a DB9 M - DB9 F cable
extension).
When I try to print, the printer starts up, then the box pops
up saying cannot print some or all of the pages. I tried putting
a null modem adapter in line, and got the same behavior.
Is it really a length problem, or a pinout problem?
Thanks, John
yates@hiker.sas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: NS/I and BJ-300 printers?
Message-ID: <1993Aug27.170022.10355@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 17:00:22 GMT
I am getting an Intel machine for home, where I already have a Canon BJ-300
printer. Hoping to use that, I worried about whether there was a driver for
the BJ-300. "Dots is the way to go", I was told. Unfortunately, Alembic, the
Dots distributor, tells me
You will need Dots Monochrome version 2.0.3 to support your BJ300.
It will run fine under NS3.x, however - it is not FAT and will not run on
Intel. There is a new Dots version due out very soon (version 3.4) and it
may be important to note the BJ300 will NOT be one of the supported printers.
It doesn't look like d'ART will be supporting it again in future versions.
Bummer! Does anyone know of any other solutions?
--
Dick Silbar (NeXTMail OK)
505-667-5253
From: dbbrown@otter.mrj.com (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP 97560 Hard Drive Inquiry
Date: 27 Aug 1993 14:38:10 -0400
Organization: MRJ, Inc./Oakton, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <25lkai$l4d@otter.mrj.com>
I am posting this for a friend so please send responding e-mail to:
jjobe@mrj.com
I have a NeXT Cube with an 030 board. I am thinking about purchasing
the following hard drive.
HP 97560
1.335 Gigabytes (Formatted)
13.5 ms access time
SCSI II interface
5.25 Full Height
Does anyone have any experience or comments on this drive and any advice
on what problems I may have connecting it to my machine.
Thanks,
Jason Jobe (jjobe@mrj.com)
From: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Another NS/FIP success story... NOT!!!! (long)
Date: 27 Aug 1993 19:26:37 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <25ln5d$eid@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <1993Aug17.043806.22270@radical2.radical.com>
In article <1993Aug17.043806.22270@radical2.radical.com> Ralph_Jung@radical.com
(Ralph Jung) writes:
> . . . .
>
> I've tried everything I've ever seen in this newsgroup. I've tried
> unplugging the keyboard. After the umpteenth time of that, the keyboard
> died! I've tried a generic non-programmable keyboard. I've tried yanking
> the floppy out at the Mach Banner. I've tried leaving the CD ROM out of
> the drive. I've tried every possible combination of settings in my BIOS.
> I've even tried to get a BIOS upgrade and there is none available.
>
> HERE'S MY ANTIQUE HARDWARE CONFIGURATION:
>
> Gateway 2000 486/33C (October 1991)
>
> Thanks for listening. I'm feeling much better now. I'm not sure why. :-)
>
> --
>
We have a Gateway system of the same vintage motherboard. It simply doesn't
work. There is some problem with the old gateway motherboards and NS/FIP
(probably having to do with the keyboard interface hardware). We are
considering getting a motherboard upgrade from Gateway - they do have one
available. Anyway, I don't know of any other solutions for this system.
As a side note - all the installations of NS on other Intel systems we have
went relatively smoothly.
--
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From: Jon_Hendry@afs.com
Subject: ALR Pentium- Done "right"?
Message-ID: <1993Aug27.183318.6217@afs.com>
Sender: jon@afs.com
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 18:33:18 GMT
Is the ALR evolution Pentium machine a good implementation of a Pentium machine
or is it just a 486 with a Pentium slapped on? It's really tempting, but I
don't want to shell out for one if the pentium is bottle-necked all over the
place. (Case in point- the Compaq reviewed in the latest NeXTWorld)
Does anyone know enough about the ALR's hardware to comment?
Thanks.
--
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<jon@afs.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: SIGBUS() error: what is it?
Message-ID: <CCFonq.1M3@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 19:55:02 GMT
Ever since replacing an external disk drive, a NeXT cube has been
generating a SIGBUS() error whenever I try to do an /etc/dump or
/etc/rdump. Prior to that, it always worked. Now, whether I have
any drives attached or not, it always generated the SIGBUS() error,
which stops the entire process. The only other thing that
coincided with the beginning of the problem was a move down one
floor in the building (altitude problems?) that was extremely
uneventful. Any help in resolving this will be appreciated.
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edue entire process. The only other thing that
coincide
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace)
Subject: Re: HP 97560 Hard Drive Inquiry
Message-ID: <jgraceCCFpwC.LzF@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <25lkai$l4d@otter.mrj.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1993 20:21:47 GMT
In article <25lkai$l4d@otter.mrj.com> dbbrown@otter.mrj.com (Dan Brown) writes:
>I have a NeXT Cube with an 030 board. I am thinking about purchasing
>the following hard drive.
>
> HP 97560
> 1.335 Gigabytes (Formatted)
> 13.5 ms access time
> SCSI II interface
> 5.25 Full Height
>
>Does anyone have any experience or comments on this drive and any advice
>on what problems I may have connecting it to my machine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason Jobe (jjobe@mrj.com)
I have a 2 Gig HP drive, the C3010 (SCSI-II...).
My advice is... think at least twice before buying an HP drive.
I found out the hard way (trying to get my drive repaired) that
HP does not warranty the drive to the end-user but only to the
distributor. The distributor didn't want to repair the drive
since my vendor (Tecor) is now out of business. Eventually, HP
took over a month to replace my drive with "expedited" service
and only did so begrudgingly. HP refused to deal with me
directly but required me to deal with their distributor
(middle-man) to have the distributor have HP repair the drive.
Furthermore, HP personnel were duplicitous, unreliable, and
unprofessional to deal with. They never did ship me a new drive
as they promised (instead they shipped a low serial number
refurbished drive, I believe). This service nightmare was very
recent ("ended" July 29, 1993). Needless to say, I would not buy
an HP again without carefully exploring the so-called "HP"
warranty. I hope my current HP equipment never requires service
again.
If anyone would like a copy of the letter I sent to Lew Platt,
President of HP, outlining the problems HP has with their
customer service, I can forward a copy. Mr. Lew Platt didn't
care to reply though I requested he do so. Also, the HP "reply"
from Mr. Bruce Spenner, General Manager of Disk Memory Division
at HP, did not address the full issues I raised in my carefully
prepared letter. Instead, the General Manager's short, cursory
letter concluded:
If you should have any additional questions regarding our
warranty policy, please contact Eric Abrahms [mis-spelled!]
([xxx/xxx-xxxx]), located in the corporate office of our
authorized distributor, Arrow Electronics, Inc.; Commercial
Systems Group.
Even dealing with customer service issues explicitly, my
experience is HP stonewalls and isolates itself from the
customer. For a premium, mission-critical piece of equipment, a
$3,785.00 hard drive at time of purchase, I expected much more
reasonable service.
If you do choose to go with HP, try to get a copy of "your" 5
year "HP" warranty first and see what, if anything, you get!
Then ask what the advertised "5 year" warranty means if it
doesn't extend to you! :-) :-) :-)
My bottom-line advice is: caveat emptor!
(By the way, the DEC drives looked pretty nice to me as I was
preparing to buy a replacement drive since HP missed its third
return deadline. However, I suppose you should check DEC's
warranty too. I never got that far before discovering HP had
lied to me about a "shortage" of C3010 drives.)
Cheers,
= Joe =
p.s., technologically the HP drives seem fine (though my original
drive did fail). My foremost gripe would be the noise of the
drives, especially when seeking. The DEC drives are supposedly
relatively quiet.
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSFIP & Rendition IV Graphics Board?
Date: 27 Aug 1993 22:31:35 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <25m207$m6d@morrow.stanford.edu>
I set up a DEC 466ST running NextStep and now I'd like to move beyond VGA
display mode. The machine has an 'Appian Rendition IV Intelligent Graphics
Controller' which appears to have various high resolution, Super VGA and VGA
modes but I haven't a clue how to switch to any of the non-VGA modes.
Is it possible to use this board for other than VGA under 3.1 or do I have to
get one of the officially supported graphics cards to do that?
Thanks for any information,
- Christopher
From: worstell@ece.ucdavis.edu (Glen Worstell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cyrix CPU
Date: 27 Aug 1993 19:18:35 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9308280018.AA25193@madrone.ece.ucdavis.edu>
In case anyone is interested, NextStep can run on a Cyrix 486DLC CPU,
contrary to the FAQ, even though it is not officially supported.
A few months ago I purchased a no-name clone with a Cyrix CPU and a (387?)
coprocessor. I suspected NS might run, and one day I tried it. Success!
The system was used for a couple of weeks for software development with
no apparent problems.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: ALR Pentium- Done "right"?
Message-ID: <1993Aug28.041418.18065@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Aug27.183318.6217@afs.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 04:14:18 GMT
In article <1993Aug27.183318.6217@afs.com> Jon_Hendry@afs.com writes:
>
> Is the ALR evolution Pentium machine a good implementation of a Pentium
machine
> or is it just a 486 with a Pentium slapped on? It's really tempting, but
I
> don't want to shell out for one if the pentium is bottle-necked all over
the
> place. (Case in point- the Compaq reviewed in the latest NeXTWorld)
All of the Pentium machines available today are bottlenecked to a
considerable extent--most of them worse than the Compaq I reviewed for
NeXTWorld. I haven't tested the ALR, and I don't remember enough of the
design to comment on it.
M Carling
Contributing Editor, NeXTWorld Magazine
From: gregory@athena.mit.edu (Gregory B Howland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTStep on ThinkPad
Date: 28 Aug 1993 19:24:11 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25obcr$s71@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Has anyone tried installing NS3.1 on a ThinkPad 350 or 720?
-- Greg
From: admin@bock.freiburg.sub.org (FreiNet Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: how to mount a DOS-OD with NS-3.1 ?
Date: 27 Aug 1993 12:32:44 GMT
Organization: FreiNet, a VzF* InterNetNews site
Message-ID: <25kutc$s9c@bock.freiburg.sub.org>
Hi,
i want to know if it is possible to mount a external OD which is DOS
formatted !
Every time i put the OD into the drive (it's a sony :) the NeXT give me
the choice to format the disk as an unix or mac disk. But he doesn't
recognize that this disk is already formatted as a DOS disk :-(
The NeXT is a "black" machine running NS 3.1.
If anyone has managed this with success, please give me a hint !!!
- Flo
From: dlm40629@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel L. Marks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Bypassing Nextstep Filesystem on SCSI hard disk
Date: 28 Aug 1993 20:52:42 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <25ogiq$m4b@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: SCSI Hard Disk Bypassing Filesystem Direct Access
How does one access the SCSI disk on a Nextstation at the block level?
(bypassing the file system)
We are creating a very large database (~6 GB) and saving the space that
a filesystem requires is desirable because we plan to dedicate the
entire hard disk to the database (which is one large file) and then
perhaps use the raw SCSI device to access that file.
Also, will the disk blocks be read in the same contiguous order in the
Nextstep 486 and Nextstep '040 raw devices?
Also, which drive parameters can be used to minimize the amount of overhead
required when formatting a SCSI drive that is not necessarily needed for
the Nextstep file system? We intend to squeeze every byte possible out of
a SCSI disk.
Reply by mail please. Will post summary.
Thank you
Dan Marks
dlm40629@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: Zeos and NEXSTEP for Intel 3.1...
Message-ID: <rorCCHvK1.94L@netcom.com>
Summary: Has anyone been able to get NEXTSTEP to run on a Zeos?
Keywords: Zeos, NEXTSTEP
Organization: Pigdog Journal
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 00:19:13 GMT
I'm just wondering whether there's been any news on whether Zeos machines
can run NEXTSTEP. Has anyone been attempting this lately? I'm still
waiting on my copy of NEXTSTEP 3.1 which should be in soon. I'll post
about what happens when I try to install it on my Zeos 486/66.
In the meantime, is there anything wrong with my plan?
I have a desktop Zeos 486/66dx2 with 16 megs of RAM, 450 meg IDE HD
(Seagate) local bus controlled, VESA local bus Diamond Stealth 24 video
card, Nec 4fg 15" monitor, and the on-board SCSI option. I also have 2
CD-ROM drives, a TEXEL 5024, and an Apple CD 300.
NEXTSTEP 3.1 does not support the Adaptec on-board SCSI in the Zeos,
however NEXTSTEP must be installed via a SCSI CD-ROM drive. It also
requires a video card with 2 megs of VRAM to do color.
Here's my plan:
1) Install an Adaptec 1542B or 1542C SCSI controller card, which NEXTSTEP
does support.
2) Replace my video card with an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro (VESA) with 2
megs.
3) Hook up one of the CD-ROM drives, and Install NEXTSTEP.
Any help, comments, or suggestions will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks for
your time and help in advance.
--
ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
From: dhirenje@girtab.usc.edu (Dhiren Jeram Patel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Will NS use local bus IDE controller on Gateway 2000?
Date: 28 Aug 1993 20:53:38 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: dhirenje@girtab.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25p982$c55@girtab.usc.edu>
The subject line says it -- does anyone know if NS will use the local
bus IDE controller that is integrates onto the motherboard of Gateway 2000
V-series systems? If so, how is the performance?
Daren Patel [^_^]
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From: khare@cco.caltech.edu (Rohit Khare)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ALR Pentium- Done "right"?
Date: 29 Aug 1993 04:35:39 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <25pbmrINNb4j@gap.caltech.edu>
References: <1993Aug27.183318.6217@afs.com> <1993Aug28.041418.18065@BlueRose.com>
m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes:
>All of the Pentium machines available today are bottlenecked to a
>considerable extent--most of them worse than the Compaq I reviewed for
>NeXTWorld. I haven't tested the ALR, and I don't remember enough of the
>design to comment on it.
I have replied directly to Jon, but I also wanted to address this one in
public, now that M mentioned it.
The ALR board has been built from the ground up to support the Pentium.
Repeat after me: ALR has the only shipping single-user Pentium-optimized
system today. (I'm not including things like the NCR multiprocessors).
I just installed one yesterday, which leads to my second observation:
PC hardware sucks.
Right now, I have a 2 machine network between my NS Classic Mono and this
latest hot box (64Mb ram, too). Relative to the slab, the Evolution is
fully 4x on cpu, something marginally better on disk, 1.0 on graphics (running
color, but only at 800x600 (so far), and with ugly flicker lines (in the image,
not the signal)), leading to system perceived performance increases of at most
2x. 1) the NeXTStation was a marvel of custom silicon (and the Cubes even more
so). 2) the best PC hardware money can buy ain't much. Oh, and I installed
a sound card (for which you have to have an Eisa system, which implies spending
a few k more for the tower "Quadflex Architecture"), which is the noisiest
POS I have ever seen pass for digital audio (and the PAS16 is one of the most
highly rated PC sound cards, too).
All in all, the Evolution V (Tower) is the best and worst of NeXTSTEP systems:
The best performance money can possibly buy for NS
The best proof that I would gladly have paid twice as much for an NRW.
4 years went between the designs of these two machines, and it scares the sh*t
out of me that the slab is the more usable, pwerful, and impressive of the 2
(esp. with dsp included!).
Rohit Khare
NeXTWorld Freelancer
The eText Project at Caltech
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rob@shw.optics.rochester.edu (Rob Smith)
Subject: DEC hardware -1024x1280- any opinions
Message-ID: <1993Aug29.073736.13562@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester Computing Center
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 93 07:37:36 GMT
I'm thinking about buying a DEC 486 system, since they seem to have the only
hardware currently, given a driver upgrade due out a while ago, offering the
possibility of 1024x1280 color. I must say that I'm a bit horrified of having
only a single vendor to choose from.
1) Any opinions of DEC machines: Speed, Reliability, Support?
2) Am I misinterpreting the value of a 1024x1280 or is it nearly twice the
screen real estate of, say my MegaPixle?
3) Anybody know why only one vendor is currently offering this option?
4) Will I suffer any appreciable penalties for opting for this size monitor?
thanks
rob
Email preferred
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Micropolis 1924
Date: 29 Aug 1993 10:41:24 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25pmj4$krj@cc.tut.fi>
Keywords: micropolis
I'm increasing the disk capasity of my 030 cube and one very good
offer came up. The disk is Micropolis 1924 with fast scsi-2 interface.
Formatted capasity is 2.1 G. I'm using NS2.1. Is there any problems with
formatting the disk for NeXT? Should it be divided in two using
two partitions of equal size? If there's anyone out there using this
particular disk with NeXT, please contact me. I'd like to know
some details regaring the power consumption.
--
Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks
Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ian_stewart@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP: problems with 3COM509/TP ?
Message-ID: <CCIEMr.qp@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: ABC Company. We specialize in classic chewing gum!
References: <1993Aug23.140131.24698@alf.uib.no>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 07:11:14 GMT
You may consider using the Intel card it is faster (bigger buffer) and
cheaper. The 3com card no matter what NeXT does is always have a slower
performance due to the buffer size. TP is NOT supported. Hope that helps.
ian
In article <1993Aug23.140131.24698@alf.uib.no> bav@bergen.siodata.no
(Bjorn Asle Valde) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> We're having problems with a 3COm 3C509-TP card in an
> ibm ps/vp2. It looks ok, but networking functions do
> not work. It's looks strange to me, "netstat -r" works
> ok, "arp -a" works, but not anything else.
>
> Are there any known problems with the TP 3C509 ?
>
> Regards, -bav
> --
> Bjorn Asle Valde - SiO Data Bergen, Christiesgt.13, N-5015 Bergen,
Norway.
> Email: valde@bergen.siodata.no Phones: +47-5-320240 Fax: +47-5-320238
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ian_stewart@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP with DPT 2022?
Message-ID: <CCIEp8.rG@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: ABC Company. We specialize in classic chewing gum!
References: <1993Aug20.110733.614@jester.stgt.sub.org>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 07:12:44 GMT
If this is the Micronics board that only has a serial keyboard interface
you are out of luck. This board will never work. The DPT card is great
though. Make sure you have firmware versions 5A2 or 5A5 and you should be
fine.
ian
In article <1993Aug20.110733.614@jester.stgt.sub.org>
mhae@jester.stgt.sub.org (Michael Haeuptle) writes:
>
> Has anybody successfully installed NeXTStep486 on a "CMC Micronics" Eisa
board
> (Phoenix BIOS from 12/12/91) and a DPT 2022 SCSI Cache Controller
(without
> Floppycontroller)?
>
> If I set the interrupt of the DPT to "Edge 15", I get a "RDP exception 2
code d
> subcode 1110000".
> The other interrupt options result in a "Registering sc0" message and
the
> system hangs after that.
>
> Any pointers are appreciated.
>
> Michael
>
>
> --
> Michael Haeuptle | How can we dance when our earth is
turning
> Biberweg 43, 70806 Kornwestheim | How do we sleep while our beds are
burning
> +49 7154 16442 |
(Midnight Oil)
> mhae@jester.stgt.sub.org |
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Micropolis 1924
Date: 29 Aug 1993 21:09:12 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <25r5to$phu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Simply, has anyone ever installed one of these on a NeXT? I have
one that has given me persistent media errors on track 0. I first
reformatted it at the advice of the VAR, then sent it back for new
firmware, formatted it again, and it wasn't in service more than 10
hours without these errors:
Aug 27 23:59:55 antietam mach: reselect timeout - target 3
Aug 27 23:59:57 antietam mach: Target 3: BUSY; retry 1
Aug 28 02:11:42 antietam mach: reselect timeout - target 3
Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1
Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2
Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3
Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4
Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5
Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6
Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7
Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8
Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9
Also, on bootup, we get msgs like this:
Aug 28 10:19:36 antietam mach: MICROP 1924-21MZ1077803 Rev as sd1 at sc0 targe
t 3 lun 0
Aug 28 10:19:36 antietam mach: Disk Label: server
Aug 28 10:19:36 antietam mach: Disk Capacity 2000MB, Device Block 512 bytes
[...]
Aug 28 10:19:36 antietam mach: master cpu at slot 0.
Aug 28 10:19:36 antietam mach: reselect timeout - target 3
Aug 28 10:19:36 antietam mach: sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:7 scsi status:0
x0
Aug 28 10:19:36 antietam mach: Killing all processes
Aug 28 10:19:36 antietam mach: continuing
Aug 28 10:19:36 antietam mach: rebooting Mach...
when that drive is in the fstab. (when it tries to mount it)
Does anyone have any words of wisdom for me? I really would like to make
this drive work, the VAR and manufacturer seem to be really clueless when
it comes to NeXTs.
Thanks in advance.
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
From: dblakele@acpub.duke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Original MegaPixel Behavior Changes
Message-ID: <19694@news.duke.edu>
Date: 30 Aug 93 03:26:29 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.
Originator: dblakele@raphael.acpub.duke.edu
I've got an upgraded 68040 NeXTcube with one of the original MegaPixel
monitors (translated: no built-in microphone) that has been behaving
somewhat strangely as of late. There will be periods of time after
being turned on that the screen images will bow in at the middle
and look all the world like somebody taking a square sheet of rubber
and pulling it out at all four corners.
Now, is this a sign of perhaps impending death or something that could
be fixable? Also, could this change have effects elsewhere in the
system? Thanks in advance.
Peace
--
| Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco |
| Duke University _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne |
| Center for Health Policy \\// NeXTmail happily accepted |
| Durham NC 27710 \/ #include <disclaim.duke.h> |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tc152678@hkpu01.hkp.hk (Yiu Hou Cheung)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: THE CORRECT NUMBERS
Message-ID: <CCJ8ML.556@cpccspc.cphk.hk>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: usenet@cpccspc.cphk.hk
Organization: Hong Kong Polytechnic
References: <1993Aug13.164407.10475@julian.uwo.ca> <CBr4JE.Jp1@imag.fr> <16C2A14DEE.NTCLT019@TWNMOE10.Edu.TW>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1993 17:59:09 GMT
NTCLT019@TWNMOE10.Edu.TW wrote:
: In article <CBr4JE.Jp1@imag.fr>
: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
: > I already asked about the SLC2 (IBM) and i've gathered the following
: > answers:
: > 1- NS won't work without fpu (i knew that already).
: > 2- You WILL NEED the fpu (i didn't knew that, i thought at first it
: > 3- All non-Intel 485 clones are fpu-less (except the AMD 486, but i've
: > never seen a machine with such a gem inside). A 486 clone (or 486SX)
: > + fpu combo is still much slower in fpu calculation than a real 486DX,
: > esp with high clock rates.
: > Conclusion: All non-Intel CPU's actually available won't run (IF EVERY
: > THEY WILL) NS with acceptable performance. The AMD486 is an exception,
: > maybe the AMD486DX2 running at 40 MHz (80 Meg Internal) will be the
: > best iron for NS/FIP (AMD said they WOULD have one).
:
: I have tried to install NS/FIP in a special machine:
:
: CPU: Cyrix 486DLC-33
: FPU: Intel 387DX-33
: RAM: 16MB
: HDD: Maxtor 330MB ESDI + Ultrastor 12F ESDI Card
: SCSI: Adaptec AHA-1542B
: CD-ROM: Panasonic CD-501
: Video: VL-BUS ET4000 with 1 MB DRAM
:
: Surprisingly, it works correctly! I have tried to change HDD to Quantumn
: LP240AT(IDE 234MB), and it still works *correctly*!!
:
: One of my friend also tried AMD486DX-40 in a EISA/VL-BUS machine, and
: it also works correctly and fast. I will try to install NS/FIP in an
: IBM PS/VP2 with 486SLC2-66 machine plus Intel 387DX-33. I wish it still
: works, and I will let you know if it doesn't work.
:
: - Phobos
:
: NTCLT019@TWNMOE10 (posting from TAIWAN)
:
Hello,
I would like to ask does NS/FIP cpme in CD-ROM format. Is Toshiba XM-3401 supported natively ?
BR.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bnh@active.com (Brian Hess)
Subject: Re: Will NS use local bus IDE controller on Gateway 2000?
Message-ID: <1993Aug30.050257.12375@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <25p982$c55@girtab.usc.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 05:02:57 GMT
Yes, NS/FIP definitely will use the IDE controller that comes with the
Gateway 2000 DX2/66V system. I think it's fast, but I don't have a lot to
compare it to -- just the ISA Adaptec SCSI card, which isn't exactly a
speed demon. I had two identical drives when I was playing: a Micropolis
2112S (SCSI) and Micropolis 2112A (IDE). Neither seemed a lot better than
the other, but I did not time them.
Anyway, remember the three standard caveats:
1) If you boot DOS, make sure you have no more than 512Mb per IDE drive, as
the BIOS won't deal with bigger. (For example, I have a Micropolis 2112A
1.05Gb drive, and this is such a well-known problem that it has a hardware
jumper to turn it into two logical hardware drives.)
2) You still need to buy the SCSI card to get the CD-ROM hooked up the
first time.
3) If you have more than 16Mb memory, I believe the paging is slower in the
higher memory addresses, since the DMA doesn't work over 16Mb. (?somebody
correct me if I got the number wrong?) (For example, I have 24Mb in my
system, and although there's no way to tell where NS is paging to/from and
thus no way to tell how well or poorly it's doing, you can *definitely*
tell under DOS because buffers for the included Microsoft disk cache are
allocated in extended memory, top-down, and it's *slower* turning on the
disk cache than leaving it off, at least with this fast drive!)
Brian
Active Ingredients, Inc.
bnh@active.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Apple Adjustable Keyboard on an ADB NeXT??
Date: 30 Aug 1993 03:29:16 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25sa8c$994@digifix.digifix.com>
I really considering upgrading my turbo color so I can run ADB hardware.
Has anyone tried Apple's Adjustable Keyboard on an ADB NeXT? I would
assume that mice are mice and they should work, but the keyboard seems a
little more suspect.
Any responses would be appreciated!
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pom@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening)
Subject: Audio CD on NeXT CD-ROM drive?
Message-ID: <63SGBDNB@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de>
Sender: usenet@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de (USENET News System)
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 10:52:31 GMT
The manual of the NeXT CD-ROM drive tells me that by use of special
software the drive could play audio CDs. What is this special software?
Moreover is there software that plays audio CDs via the computer's
speaker?
--
Klaus Pommerening
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation
der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet
D-55101 Mainz, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca ()
Subject: Re: Parallel Port Speed & Cool printers?
Message-ID: <CCKK98.FCn@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
References: <Aug.23.18.55.35.1993.6452@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <1993Aug25.074103.15973@cubx.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 11:07:56 GMT
In article <Aug.23.18.55.35.1993.6452@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> 1) How fast is the typical parallel port (in megs p/s) and does
anyone know how fast the printer port on a NeXTstation (cube) is?
I think the typical parallel port is about the same speed as Localtalk
on a Mac - about 250Kbps.
I expect the protocol could go to ethernet speed - 10Mbps with the right
hardware and not too long a cable.
The printer port on a NeXT sends raster to the printer in real time.
There are about 15M bits on a page and it takes about 5 seconds to print,
so 3Mbps would be a very rough lower bound.
--
.. Richard <tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca> NextMail OK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Audio CD on NeXT CD-ROM drive?
In-Reply-To: pom@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.DE's message of 30 Aug 93 10:52:31 GMT
To: pom@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Aug30094626@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <63SGBDNB@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 13:46:26 GMT
In article <63SGBDNB@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de> pom@anke.imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening) writes:
The manual of the NeXT CD-ROM drive tells me that by use of special
software the drive could play audio CDs. What is this special software?
CDPlayer.app.
Moreover is there software that plays audio CDs via the computer's
speaker?
Not with the NeXT CD ROM drive. Only a few of the more modern CD ROM
drives have the hardware to do this at all and all of those implement
it incompatibly. These drives include the Toshiba 3401, the NEC
[78]4-1 and the Apple CD 300. Of all of these to the best of my
knowledge a NeXT player program is only publicly available for the
Toshiba 3401.
Carl Edman
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New EtherExpress Driver
Date: 30 Aug 1993 15:09:37 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Message-ID: <25t57h$9o3@fermat.mayo.edu>
Looks like NeXT has uploaded the new Intel EtherExpress driver in
ftp.next.com in the directory
/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers/EtherExpressDriver.41190.1
Here is part of the README file:
***************************************************************
With this updated driver, you can connect your computer to your network
using your Intel EtherExpress network adapter's BNC, AUI, or RJ-45
connector.
The following models of the EtherExpress network adapter have been tested
with this driver:
EtherExpress16, first generation (BNC and AUI connectors)
EtherExpress16TP, first and second generations (RJ-45 and AUI
connectors)
EtherExpress16C (BNC, RJ-45, and AUI connectors)
In addition, the second generation of the EtherExpress16 is anticipated to
work, but has not been tested.
--
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
ray@mayo.edu
From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCMCIA on Vectra XM
Date: 30 Aug 1993 17:54:35 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Message-ID: <25tesr$637@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
Does anyone know if NS for Intel supports the use of PCMCIA cards on the
HP Vectra XM?
Thanks for any info.
Jay Trimble
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: root@next1de.scri.fsu.edu (Operator)
Subject: long monitor cord on station?
Sender: usenet@mailer.cc.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University ACNS
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 18:08:18 GMT
Message-ID: <CCL3pu.899@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
Can I use the long monitor cord for a cude on a NeXTstation?
Thanks for any info,
- Steve
(Please respond by email)
From: giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: A new twist to read/initialize problems with NS/I
Date: 30 Aug 1993 19:26:59 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25tka3$qlv@news.doit.wisc.edu>
The latest in the problems I've been having with the floppy drive on an
NS/Intel system:
I formatted a Verbatim DataLife on PLI Cube Floppy to 1.44.
It produced some read/write errors on the toshiba (4400c) NS/I disk drive
when trying to copy to/from it.
I initialized it on the Toshiba with NS/I, and initialization failed,
giving the message:
read I/O error block 2862 block_count 18
I booted up the same machine (Toshiba 4400C) in DOS and used the format
command on the same floppy, with verify on. It formatted fine. So, I
booted NS/Intel again and tried to format the same floppy, and
initialization failed again.
In summary, both DOS, and separate black harware running NS could format
this floppy, but NS/I could not.
This is seeming more and more like a software problem with NS/I. This
leads me to believe it may be a timeout problem as someone mentioned
priorly. Does anyone have any other ideas what may be causing this?
Thanks
Michael Giddings
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles@oneworld.wa.com
Subject: Re: Zeos and NEXSTEP for Intel 3.1...
Message-ID: <1993Aug30.180648.530@oneworld.wa.com>
Organization: OneWorld Enterprises/OneWorld Computing Resources
References: <rorCCHvK1.94L@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 18:06:48 GMT
The Diamond Stealth card is not supported in anything other than monochrome.
You may experience some problems with the installer which is looking for
particular DMA channels/irq's. I ended up having to use another computer
to build my disk and configure the program. If you are able to configure
your system, you may be able to use your hardware to build the disk.
You are correct that the onboard scsi doesn't work with NEXTSTEP and in fact
can cause the DMA/irq problems alluded to above.
Good luck! I'm planning to either buy a completely new system to run
NeXTSTEP or swap out the mother board on my Zeos. I'm completely fed
up with them doing anything other than plain vanilla dos/windows.
RatSnatcher (ror@netcom.com) wrote:
: I'm just wondering whether there's been any news on whether Zeos machines
: can run NEXTSTEP. Has anyone been attempting this lately? I'm still
: waiting on my copy of NEXTSTEP 3.1 which should be in soon. I'll post
: about what happens when I try to install it on my Zeos 486/66.
:
: In the meantime, is there anything wrong with my plan?
:
: I have a desktop Zeos 486/66dx2 with 16 megs of RAM, 450 meg IDE HD
: (Seagate) local bus controlled, VESA local bus Diamond Stealth 24 video
: card, Nec 4fg 15" monitor, and the on-board SCSI option. I also have 2
: CD-ROM drives, a TEXEL 5024, and an Apple CD 300.
:
: NEXTSTEP 3.1 does not support the Adaptec on-board SCSI in the Zeos,
: however NEXTSTEP must be installed via a SCSI CD-ROM drive. It also
: requires a video card with 2 megs of VRAM to do color.
:
: Here's my plan:
:
: 1) Install an Adaptec 1542B or 1542C SCSI controller card, which NEXTSTEP
: does support.
:
: 2) Replace my video card with an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro (VESA) with 2
: megs.
:
: 3) Hook up one of the CD-ROM drives, and Install NEXTSTEP.
:
: Any help, comments, or suggestions will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks for
: your time and help in advance.
:
:
:
: --
: ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
From: tcarr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: slab won't boot!!
Date: 30 Aug 1993 20:52:31 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <25tpaf$m46@news.acns.nwu.edu>
It figures that just 2 weeks before I defend my thesis, when I need to
finish up my dissertation, and when I need to prepare my presentation that
MY SLAB WON'T BOOT!!! Ahhhhhhhhh!
I have a NeXTstation (slab) running NeXTStep 2.1.
Here's is what happens:
Power on the system
"Testing System" icon appears on monitor
An error brings up the ROM monitor which says,
"Default boot device not found"
I've been able to work around this by executing the command "bsd" which
tells it to boot from the scsi device. Everything proceeds normally after
this and the computer will then boot and run properly. It sure was a panic
sticken hour till I figure out this fix!
How can I get the slab to boot properly during the power on process?
Thanks, Tom
--
************************************************************************
Thomas W. Carr tcarr@nwu.edu (not NeXTmailable)
Dept. of Engineering Sciences & Applied Mathematics office# 708-491-3345
Northwestern University, Evanston, Il 60208 fax# 708-491-2178
From: David.Kelman@launchpad.unc.edu (David Kelman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Faxmodem advice needed
Date: 30 Aug 1993 21:16:01 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25tqmh$r3i@samba.oit.unc.edu>
I'd like to thank all the folks who responded to my request for
advice on what faxmodem to purchase. The overwhelming favorite was the ZyXEL,
particularly the package offered by Black and White Software.
Thanks again,
David Kelman
--
The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
internet: laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: THE CORRECT NUMBERS
Message-ID: <1993Aug30.224657.15415@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <CCJ8ML.556@cpccspc.cphk.hk>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 22:46:57 GMT
In article <CCJ8ML.556@cpccspc.cphk.hk> tc152678@hkpu01.hkp.hk (Yiu Hou
Cheung) writes:
> I would like to ask does NS/FIP cpme in CD-ROM format.
> Is Toshiba XM-3401 supported natively ?
NEXTSTEP for Intel systems is only distributed on CDROM. NEXTSTEP
currently only supports SCSI CDROM drives.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nils@daisy.flens.toppoint.de
Subject: Help: WEITEK P9000 (Diamond Viper) Driver for NS486 wanted !
Message-ID: <1993Aug30.200919.389@daisy.flens.toppoint.de>
Sender: nils@daisy.flens.toppoint.de
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 93 20:09:19 GMT
Hi, NeXT folks !
I bought a Diamond Viper 2 VLB Graphics Card with the WEITEK P 9000
Graphics Controller (like the Orchid P9000).
Recently, there was a posting about P9000 Drivers beeing developed
for NSfIP, and I wonder if I already can get my Hands on a ( Alpha, Beta,
..) Version of this Driver, because I hate 640 x 480 Resolution !!!
Thanx for any Advices : Nils Heidorn !
( By the way: Does anybody know, what will be new in 3.2 ??? )
--
--
Nils Heidorn nils@daisy.flens.toppoint.de
Muehlenstrasse 21b
24937 Flensburg
0461 / 55049 ( am Wochenende 04674 / 1477 )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Subject: Re: DEC hardware -1024x1280- any opinions
Message-ID: <CCKo2A.153@zoodle.robin.de>
Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Organization: meow!!!
References: <1993Aug29.073736.13562@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 12:30:09 GMT
In article <1993Aug29.073736.13562@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
rob@shw.optics.rochester.edu (Rob Smith) writes:
> 2) Am I misinterpreting the value of a 1024x1280 or is it nearly twice the
> screen real estate of, say my MegaPixle?
1024 x 1280 = 1310720
1120 x 832 = 931840
1310720 / 931840 = 1.407
not twice as much, but quite a lot more
> 4) Will I suffer any appreciable penalties for opting for this size monitor?
If it works, then probably not. Except your money bag that is...
Bye,
Uli
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: zexel@netcom.com (Zexel Corp)
Subject: help needed with NS/IP hardware requireme
Message-ID: <zexelCCLn5s.9K8@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 01:08:16 GMT
This is a response to 'feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu' who wrote:
+++
Thanks to all those who sent me info on getting the hardware compatibility
Guide. After reading it, I have the following questions.
(1) my pc: 486/33 8mb ram, 125mb ide hard disk, svga card with 1mb memory.
according to the Hardware Guide, these all fall in the minimum
requirements for a user Environment 2-bit grayscale setup.
++++
This is just a warning, gotten from my own experiences, that the minimum
requirement section of the Hardware Compatibility Guide, does not represent
minimum requirements. Nextstep is not Windows, and will not run on just
any PC. Nextstep is much more finicky than that, and requires a quite
specialized set of hardware specifications. In particular, you basically
need to buy one of the complete systems that are listed in the guide, since
you can get burned if you try to build your own. For example, I bought the
Micronics VESA/EISA motherboard, which definitely satisfies the "minimum
requirements", however, since Micronics apparently fixed some HW bug in the
BIOS, and since Nextstep does not even look at the BIOS, this board is
not, and will never be compatible with Nextstep. This, I believe, is a major
defect in the Hardware Compatibility Guide, in that it does not explicitly
that you must buy one of the listed systems.
So, since Next in no way feels responsible to you if you have not bought one
their listed systems, I recommend that you think again before you pluck
down any money for Nextstep for the 486. Really, $300 is way too much if
it won't run.
Brian
brian@zexel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: NeXT Optical and CD-ROM on Intel?
Message-ID: <westesCCLo0u.BGu@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 01:26:54 GMT
As someone who never bought a black NeXT box, could someone please
educate me on several issues:
1) Was NeXT's read-write optical drive a separate product from their
CD-ROM drive, or did one drive do both?
2) Can you use their read-write optical in a PC running DOS or
Windows/NT?
3) Can you use their read-write optical in a PC running NeXTSTEP?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Connor 540 disktab & scsi address info?
Date: 31 Aug 1993 03:27:58 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <25ugfuINNor1@network.ucsd.edu>
Proverbially: Help!
Just purchased a Connor CP30540 (540MB) drive for use with a NeXTStation
Color, NS 3.1. Of course the drive came with no information on how to set
the SCSI address, and with NO jumpers on the relevent set of pins, the
address defaulted to 6! We tried a small number of jumper combinations,
and one of them seems to have resulted in the following situation: the
NeXT can no longer read the disk label on the connor, nor can anything be
done with /etc/disk; the best we get is "target 6 not ready." I take it
that with an appropriate disktab entry we can solve this. Does anyone
have one? Also does anyone know how to set the address to 0 on this
drive? The pins look like this:
. . . . . .
. . . . . .
Thanks a zillion.
--
Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy
alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD
NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093
************************************************
Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions
expressed by anyone at any time.
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help: WEITEK P9000 (Diamond Viper) Driver for NS486 wanted !
Date: 31 Aug 1993 04:15:20 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <25uj8o$7ll@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <1993Aug30.200919.389@daisy.flens.toppoint.de>
In article <1993Aug30.200919.389@daisy.flens.toppoint.de> nils@daisy.flens.toppoint.de writes:
>
>Hi, NeXT folks !
>
>I bought a Diamond Viper 2 VLB Graphics Card with the WEITEK P 9000
>Graphics Controller (like the Orchid P9000).
>
>Recently, there was a posting about P9000 Drivers beeing developed
>for NSfIP, and I wonder if I already can get my Hands on a ( Alpha, Beta,
>..) Version of this Driver, because I hate 640 x 480 Resolution !!!
>
>Thanx for any Advices : Nils Heidorn !
>
>( By the way: Does anybody know, what will be new in 3.2 ??? )
>
>
I am also very interested in knowing about this, since I am on the verge
of buying a 486 system to run NeXTstep. I have heard that support for the
Diamond Viper will be available for 3.2, but no information as to the
resolution/speed or availability.
If anybody has more information, please post!
Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rcs002@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: DEC hardware -1024x1280- any opinions
Message-ID: <1993Aug30.235603.1@acad.drake.edu>
Sender: news@dunix.drake.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
References: <1993Aug29.073736.13562@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 05:56:03 GMT
In article <1993Aug29.073736.13562@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, rob@shw.optics.rochester.edu (Rob Smith) writes:
>
>
> I'm thinking about buying a DEC 486 system, since they seem to have the only
> hardware currently, given a driver upgrade due out a while ago, offering the
> possibility of 1024x1280 color. I must say that I'm a bit horrified of having
> only a single vendor to choose from.
>
> 1) Any opinions of DEC machines: Speed, Reliability, Support?
>
> 2) Am I misinterpreting the value of a 1024x1280 or is it nearly twice the
> screen real estate of, say my MegaPixle?
>
> 3) Anybody know why only one vendor is currently offering this option?
>
> 4) Will I suffer any appreciable penalties for opting for this size monitor?
>
> thanks
>
> rob
>
> Email preferred
>
>
Rob is not the only person wondering about the DEC machine. I would also
like to have a 16 bit color 1024x1280 machine.
While rob prefers email, I would rather have people share, and post any info
here.
Thanks
RCS
rcs001@acad.drake.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Does Adaptec 2742 EISA SCSI-2 Work on NT/NeXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <westesCCLxL6.JL5@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 04:53:29 GMT
Adaptec has recently released the next-generation of its EISA SCSI
host adapters, the 2742. They are claiming a 25% increase in overall system
throughput.
Has anyone tested this card with Windows NT or NeXTSTEP? Did the
old Adaptec 1742 EISA adapter work well with these systems?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fmlin@netcom.com (Frank M. Lin)
Subject: black hardware questions ( I don't own one yet :)
Message-ID: <fmlinCCLzLv.71z@netcom.com>
Organization: EMG
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 05:37:07 GMT
I've seen some pretty ( to me atleast ) good deals on mono cubes. I'm
wondering, what if I ever what to upgrade to color, what happens?
If I ever want color, I'll probably want a ND. Is ND on its own
motherboard? Do I add it to the cube, and have 2 boards or do I replace
it?
What is the black hardware's software status right now? I think I've
read NeXT will support it for atleast few more years. So is the latest
NeXTstep 3.2? ( or 3.1? )
Thanks in advance.
--
frank m. lin
fmlin@netcom.com
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micropolis 1924
Date: 31 Aug 1993 08:48:41 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <25uonp$2n3@cc.tut.fi>
References: <25r5to$phu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
First I wrote:
I'm increasing the disk capasity of my 030 cube and one very good
offer came up. The disk is Micropolis 1924 with fast scsi-2 interface.
Formatted capasity is 2.1 G. I'm using NS2.1. Is there any problems with
formatting the disk for NeXT? Should it be divided in two using
two partitions of equal size? If there's anyone out there using this
particular disk with NeXT, please contact me. I'd like to know
some details regaring the power consumption.
and then...
In article <25r5to$phu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@uiuc.edu writes:
>Simply, has anyone ever installed one of these on a NeXT? I have
>one that has given me persistent media errors on track 0. I first
>reformatted it at the advice of the VAR, then sent it back for new
>firmware, formatted it again, and it wasn't in service more than 10
>hours without these errors:
>Aug 27 23:59:55 antietam mach: reselect timeout - target 3
>Aug 27 23:59:57 antietam mach: Target 3: BUSY; retry 1
>Aug 28 02:11:42 antietam mach: reselect timeout - target 3
>Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1
>Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2
>Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3
>Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4
>Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5
>Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6
>Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7
>Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8
>Aug 28 02:13:12 antietam mach: Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9
I got your point :-) No really, is this a common error with Micropolis 1924
or is it just a coinsidence? Someone told that there's a size limit for
disks which is about 1.7 G. I don't know if this is true, but that
might be the answer for your problems. But if you managed to get the
disk work without errors for 10 hours, it seems that in your case there
might be something else wrong, too..
--
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33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jmorgan@mobius (Justin Morgan)
Subject: Re: ALR Pentium- Done "right"?
Message-ID: <1993Aug30.224718.21294@pencom.com>
Keywords: ALR ProAudio Spectrum graphics VLB ATI Ultra
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (Usenet Pseudo User)
Organization: Pencom Software
References: <25pbmrINNb4j@gap.caltech.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 22:47:18 GMT
Rohit Khare writes...
>
> ...Relative to the slab, the [ALR Evolution V]
> is fully 4x on cpu, something marginally better on disk,
> 1.0 on graphics (running color, but only at 800x600 (so far), and
> with ugly flicker lines (in the image, not the signal)), leading to
> system perceived performance increases of at most 2x. 1)
Out of curiosity, what graphics card are you using? If I recall the
specs correctly, the basic Evolution V ships as a case with a bare
motherboard with VLB and ISA slots open. If NeXTWORLD Magazine is
correct, you should be seeing roughly 50% of the performance of a
NeXTstation Color Turbo's graphics if you're using an ATI Ultra Pro
2MB VLB.
We had a very nice Dell pre-production computer in-house (Dell is
just a block down the road) a couple of weeks ago. I can't talk
about the specifics of the computer, but it demonstrated the same
type of flicker you describe, which _seemed_ to be caused by a
shortage of VRAM.
> ...I installed a [ProAudio Spectrum 16] sound card (for which you
> have to have an Eisa system)...which is the noisiest POS I have
> ever seen pass for digital audio (and the PAS16 is one of the most
> highly rated PC sound cards, too).
The local ComputerLand retailer demonstrated a PAS 16 for me running
in some kind of clone, and the board sounded splendid (even compared
to the NeXTstation/cube's DSP sound). Are your sure it's the
hardware causing the poor sound and not the software?
> All in all, the Evolution V (Tower) is the best and worst of
> NeXTSTEP systems:
> The best performance money can possibly buy for NS
> The best proof that I would gladly have paid twice as much for
> an NRW.
Absolutely!
> Rohit Khare
> NeXTWorld Freelancer
> The eText Project at Caltech
Justin Morgan
<speaking only for myself>
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From: rpb@psy.ox.ac.uk (Ray Bellis)
Subject: Need recommendations for 1Gb disk for NeXTstation
Message-ID: <RPB.93Aug31113438@brain.psy.ox.ac.uk>
Organization: Dept. of Experimental Psychology, Oxford, England.
Date: 31 Aug 93 11:34:38
Could people please e-mail me recommendations for a decent
(cheap & fast) 1GB SCSI disk for a NeXTstation.
I haven't been able to find out from what limited documentation
I have available whether the SCSI on the NeXTstation is SCSI-1
or SCSI-2, and whether it's single ended or differential.
Thanks,
Ray.
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From: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DEC hardware -1024x1280- any opinions
Date: 31 Aug 1993 11:44:41 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <25vdj9$6u3@email.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <1993Aug30.235603.1@acad.drake.edu>
In article <1993Aug30.235603.1@acad.drake.edu> rcs002@acad.drake.edu
writes:
> In article <1993Aug29.073736.13562@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>,
rob@shw.optics.rochester.edu (Rob Smith) writes:
> >
> >
> > I'm thinking about buying a DEC 486 system, since they seem to have
the only
> > hardware currently, given a driver upgrade due out a while ago,
offering the
> > possibility of 1024x1280 color.
I am just sitting in front of a DECpc 466de MTE. There is a S3-928
graphics card installed, but, guess what, only one MB in it. So here are
the reports of NXBench and DrivePerformance meassured with 16MB RAM and a
DEC 230MB IDE drive. As soon as I receive 3MBs for the graphic card and
the driver update, I will inform you about feeling and benchmarks.
NXBench.app:
Dhrystones: 61855
VAX Mips: 39.27
NXFactor: 1.36 (1024*768 8bit gray, only have 1MB)
Line: 1.38
Arc/Bezier: 1.31
Fill: 1.30
Transform: 1.88
Composite: 1.13
Userpath: 2.07
Text: 1.25
Window: 0.57
DrivePerformance.app reported about 0.9 last time. I don't have enough MBs
free on the disk to test it now.
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Subject: Help on Using Laser Jet III with NeXTstation (BLACK SLAB)
Message-ID: <93243.021102JTRQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
From: <JTRQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 31 Aug 1993 02:11:02 EDT
Organization: City University of New York
Hi..
I have a HP LaserJet III and I'm going to use it on a NeXTStation black slab
and I was wondering, is it easy to set uP???????
All i have to do is connect it to the serial port then goto
Printmanager and create a new printer specfying Laser Jet III Postscript cart
???????? and That's that??? (i have a Postscript cart. and extra mem for
the printer)??????? I don't have the Manual for the printer (It was a gift)
and I was wodnering do i need to set some internal jumpers so that I could
use the serial port on the printer????? Help???? PLEASE>>>>
Thanks!
James T. Romano
Student/Consultant/Slave to my Boss/Has one awesome looking girlfriend
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore)
Subject: Re: ALR Pentium- Done "right"?
Message-ID: <1993Aug31.020824.4945@imani.cam.org>
Sender: nico@imani.cam.org
References: <1993Aug27.183318.6217@afs.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 02:08:24 GMT
In article <1993Aug27.183318.6217@afs.com> Jon_Hendry@afs.com writes:
>
> Is the ALR evolution Pentium machine a good implementation of a Pentium machine
> or is it just a 486 with a Pentium slapped on? It's really tempting, but I
> don't want to shell out for one if the pentium is bottle-necked all over the
> place. (Case in point- the Compaq reviewed in the latest NeXTWorld)
>
> Does anyone know enough about the ALR's hardware to comment?
As a general comment, any Pentium-PC currently available is not letting the Pentium
express itself to it's fullest. EISA and VL-Bus can't quite keep up, and PCI is not
yet available, that I know of... It's not the Pentium, it's what's around it.
(Remember, 32bits at 66mHz is ~240MBps - I'm talking I/O, not memory - is a _LOT_.
VL-Bus does ~120MBps (32 bits at 33mHz), theorically, while a Pentium will need
those ~240 _practically_.
To get to the point, one of the PC Mags has a review of Pentium hardware, and ALR's
is reviewed. They seem to think it's slow. Didn't read that carefully, so I can't
elaborate. I think it's PCWorld or something, but it is not PCMag or Byte. It's the
cover feature.
For non-bottle-necked Pentiums, I guess you'll have to wait at least 'till PCI is
out at least at 60 mHz, and get the fastest HD, ENet and video stuff around.
Hope this helps.
Ciao
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Jon Hendry Give me your finest #11 vinyl headsack. Cost is no object!
> <jon@afs.com>
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From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: THE CORRECT NUMBERS
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 13:43:30 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug31.134330.19579@cyantic.com>
References: <CCJ8ML.556@cpccspc.cphk.hk> <1993Aug30.224657.15415@cs.yale.edu>
In article <1993Aug30.224657.15415@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>In article <CCJ8ML.556@cpccspc.cphk.hk> tc152678@hkpu01.hkp.hk (Yiu Hou
>Cheung) writes:
>
>> I would like to ask does NS/FIP cpme in CD-ROM format.
>
>> Is Toshiba XM-3401 supported natively ?
>
>NEXTSTEP for Intel systems is only distributed on CDROM. NEXTSTEP
>currently only supports SCSI CDROM drives.
>
>--
>Nathan "USENET" Janette
I thought a more direct answer was needed here. The XM-3401 is a SCSI
CD-ROM drive and works under NS/FIP and NS-Black. I have heard, but not
been able to confirm that there is a problem with Photo-CD's on the Toshiba
drive i.e. they cannot be read.
Can anyone help out here? Is this a software problem?
--
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101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DEC hardware -1024x1280- any opinions
Date: 31 Aug 1993 14:20:25 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <25vmn9$aeu@email.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <25vdj9$6u3@email.tuwien.ac.at>
In article <25vdj9$6u3@email.tuwien.ac.at> ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas
Haleger) writes:
> In article <1993Aug30.235603.1@acad.drake.edu> rcs002@acad.drake.edu
> writes:
> > In article <1993Aug29.073736.13562@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>,
> rob@shw.optics.rochester.edu (Rob Smith) writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm thinking about buying a DEC 486 system, since they seem to have
> the only
> > > hardware currently, given a driver upgrade due out a while ago,
> offering the
> > > possibility of 1024x1280 color.
>
> I am just sitting in front of a DECpc 466de MTE. There is a S3-928
> graphics card installed, but, guess what, only one MB in it. So here are
> the reports of NXBench and DrivePerformance meassured with 16MB RAM and
a
> DEC 230MB IDE drive. As soon as I receive 3MBs for the graphic card and
> the driver update, I will inform you about feeling and benchmarks.
>
> NXBench.app:
> Dhrystones: 61855
> VAX Mips: 39.27
>
> NXFactor: 1.36 (1024*768 8bit gray, only have 1MB)
> Line: 1.38
> Arc/Bezier: 1.31
> Fill: 1.30
> Transform: 1.88
> Composite: 1.13
> Userpath: 2.07
> Text: 1.25
> Window: 0.57
>
> DrivePerformance.app reported about 0.9 last time. I don't have enough
MBs
> free on the disk to test it now.
>
Okay, following up to myself, but in reality replying to "Thomas J. Baker"
<tjb@wintermute.unh.edu> who asked the following.
> Is this the standard DEC MTE that lists for magazines $2949? Also, did
you get the DEC monitor? If you don't mind, could you provide me with a
few more details like scsi controller, installation woes, etc. You could
also post to the net instead of replying directly to me if you prefer.
I didn't see it in the magazines, but it should be THE MTE. It's a small
tower with three 5 1/4 and two 3 1/2 '' slots, has EISA and LocalBus.
Looks very good and is easy to open (just turning a key, no screwing).
Yes, I got the DEC monitor, a sign on it says "VRC16 Low Emission Monitor"
and is able to do 1280*1024. I am not very fond of it, because it's not
really straight on the sides. Although there are small red lines at the
edges. In my opinion the Nec 5D is better.
For installation I plugged in an Adaptec 1542B, connected a CD-ROM and it
just worked. There is also an SMC Elite 16 Ehernet adaptor in it. Had no
problems installing Nextstep.
--
== Andreas ==
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From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: THE CORRECT NUMBERS
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 14:27:13 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Aug31.142713.22389@julian.uwo.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
i've been trying to get nextstep on a notebook that does not have a dock.
now there is a scsi adapter from trantor which doens't quite yet support
the adaptec standards (but they are apparently working on it.)
i've been wondering, how much does the installation procedure set up the
system based on the hardware evident?
could i install NSI on a desktop system, REMOVE the harddisk and then put it
into a notebook?
--
Lance R. Bailey System/Network Manager Robarts Research Institute
NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
fax: +1 519 663 3789 P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108 London, Canada N6A 5K8
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: rjmathia@novell.com (Robert Mathias)
Subject: Re: Does Adaptec 2742 EISA SCSI-2 Work on NT/NeXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <1993Aug31.174641.27558@novell.com>
Sender: news@novell.com (The Netnews Manager)
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
References: <westesCCLxL6.JL5@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 17:46:41 GMT
In article <westesCCLxL6.JL5@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>Adaptec has recently released the next-generation of its EISA SCSI
>host adapters, the 2742. They are claiming a 25% increase in overall system
>throughput.
PC WEEK just evaluated the new SCSI II controllers and lo and behold they
found that the older Adaptec 174x was still the fastest of the bunch.
>
>Has anyone tested this card with Windows NT or NeXTSTEP? Did the
>old Adaptec 1742 EISA adapter work well with these systems?
The 1742 works great with Windows NT but a friend of mine could not get the
1742 to work with NextStep. He exchanged it for a DPT controller. This also
failed but DPT gave him updated ROMS which allowed him to run NextStep.
>
>--
>Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Bob Mathias
rjmathia@Novell.com
CSERV: 70340,165
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ?Slab serial cable same as Sun IPC
Date: 31 Aug 1993 18:19:44 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <2604o0$9jt@gamera.umd.edu>
I have a NeXT slab serial cable (ends in male DB25). Quick question: is the
cable the same (or can be used in place of) one for the serial ports
on Sun IPC/IPX/II systems? Or is it wired different. Connector looks
the same.
Thanks.
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From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: THE CORRECT NUMBERS
Date: 31 Aug 1993 00:20:33 GMT
Organization: Tech Support, NeXT Computer, Inc.
Message-ID: <25u5gh$5u0@rosie.next.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Makemail: v1.9d
Dmail: v1.6hx
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu writes in comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware:
> In article <CCJ8ML.556@cpccspc.cphk.hk> tc152678@hkpu01.hkp.hk (Yiu Hou
> Cheung) writes:
>
> > I would like to ask does NS/FIP cpme in CD-ROM format.
>
> > Is Toshiba XM-3401 supported natively ?
>
> NEXTSTEP for Intel systems is only distributed on CDROM. NEXTSTEP
> currently only supports SCSI CDROM drives.
The list of supported hardware is available from NeXTanswers, NeXT's
automated information retrival system. You can use NeXTanswers from
email, fax, or anonymous ftp.
Here's the help file:
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this Subject line requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call 1-800-848-6398.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please call 1-800-848-6398.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-848-NeXT to speak to a
NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. (If your site has a NeXT support
contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline.
Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis.)
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
--
Dan Grillo grio@next.com [NeXTmail, PrivateMail, MIME welcome]
From: cnayak@bcm.tmc.edu (Chiraprakash Nayak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Educational price for nextstep-386
Date: 31 Aug 1993 21:05:40 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Message-ID: <260ef4$eg4@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
What is the current educational price for nextstep(developer's) on 386/486's.
Do any h/w suppliers sell it bundlled at that price?
Thanks a lot for all the info.
--Chip
(cnayak@bcm.tmc.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.intel
From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille)
Subject: Re: ALR Pentium- Done "right" with NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <CCn8Ku.L6A@cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
References: <1993Aug31.020824.4945@imani.cam.org>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 21:48:30 GMT
In article <1993Aug31.020824.4945@imani.cam.org> nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas
Dore) writes:
> In article <1993Aug27.183318.6217@afs.com> Jon_Hendry@afs.com writes:
> >
> > Is the ALR evolution Pentium machine a good implementation of a Pentium
machine
> > or is it just a 486 with a Pentium slapped on? It's really tempting, but I
> > don't want to shell out for one if the pentium is bottle-necked all over
the
> > place. (Case in point- the Compaq reviewed in the latest NeXTWorld)
> >
> > Does anyone know enough about the ALR's hardware to comment?
>
> As a general comment, any Pentium-PC currently available is not letting the
Pentium
> express itself to it's fullest. EISA and VL-Bus can't quite keep up, and PCI
is not
> yet available, that I know of... It's not the Pentium, it's what's around it.
> (Remember, 32bits at 66mHz is ~240MBps - I'm talking I/O, not memory - is a
_LOT_.
> VL-Bus does ~120MBps (32 bits at 33mHz), theorically, while a Pentium will
need
> those ~240 _practically_.
>
> To get to the point, one of the PC Mags has a review of Pentium hardware, and
ALR's
> is reviewed. They seem to think it's slow. Didn't read that carefully, so I
can't
> elaborate. I think it's PCWorld or something, but it is not PCMag or Byte.
It's the
> cover feature.
>
> For non-bottle-necked Pentiums, I guess you'll have to wait at least 'till
PCI is
> out at least at 60 mHz, and get the fastest HD, ENet and video stuff around.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Ciao
>
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Jon Hendry Give me your finest #11 vinyl headsack. Cost is no
object!
> > <jon@afs.com>
> --
> Nicolas Dore nico@imani.cam.org
> - - - - - - - - - CAREFUL! NERDIE TV SHOW QUOTE ZONE! - - - - - - -
> > "Just once I'd like to meet an alien nuisance <
> > that isn't immune to bullets" Policeman, in Dr Who <
The ALR tested was the ISA machine... not the Evolution VQ. Only the evolution
VQ seems interesting for NEXTSTEP. I'd really like to see such a configuration
running with the Dimond Viper P9000 on VLB. Does anyone in the press listen ?
Cheers,
- Eric
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| University of Illinois at
| Urbana-Champaign
From: npratt@madmax.modsys (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Connor 540 disktab & scsi address info?
Date: 31 Aug 1993 19:54:11 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <260a93$cj5@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <25ugfuINNor1@network.ucsd.edu>
In article 25ugfuINNor1@network.ucsd.edu, alevine@ucsd.edu () writes:
> Proverbially: Help!
>
> Just purchased a Connor CP30540 (540MB) drive for use with a NeXTStation
> Color, NS 3.1. Of course the drive came with no information on how to set
> the SCSI address, and with NO jumpers on the relevent set of pins, the
> address defaulted to 6!
> Also does anyone know how to set the address to 0 on this
> drive? The pins look like this:
>
> . . . . . .
> . . . . . .
I have a Connor CP30540. I don't recognize your "pin-out" diagram.
The pin-outs of the jumpers for setting SCSI ID are not staggered like this,
and use standard jumper blocks to jumper them, like this:
. . . . . .
. . . . . .
I don't remember the number of pins, so the number shown above is not necessarily
accurate. However, I *do* remember than the jumpers are labeled (J2, J3,
J4, etc.). The lowest jumper (the left-most) is not labeled. I *think* there
are six sets of jumpers, as shown above.
With the drive situated such that the lower-labeled jumpers are to
the left, the left-most set of pins are address line 0, the next to the left set
are address line 1, and the next are address line 2. Therefore, for a SCSI
address of 6, the left-most set will *NOT* be jumpered, but the next two sets
*WILL* be jumpered:
. . . . . .
. | | . . .
<-- lower number jumpers this way
higher number jumpers this way -->
I don't remember which, if any, of the other jumpers to the right of these
three SCSI address jumpers might be jumped. My diagram shows none of these
others jumpered, but I'm sure this was not the case.
To set the SCSI address to 0, remove the two jumpers shown above.
With the drive situated as described above, this jumper block will be near the
middle of the circuit card on the back of the drive, but a little up and to
the right, about where the X's are below, if the below diagram is the circuit
card:
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT crashing at random times. Any ideas?
Message-ID: <OLEG.93Aug31165756@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU>
From: oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (Oleg Kibirev)
Date: 31 Aug 1993 23:57:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University inFresno
Our NeXT pizzabox have recently faced three disasters at one: it
was upgraded to NextStep 3, moved to another room and the power cord
was accidently unplugged when the system was running. Ever since then
it has two kinds of interminient failures. First, roughly once a day,
it starts getting a lot of hard errors from an internal 400M Seagate
SCSI. Shortly, it finds an error in swap space and panics. After this,
it sits forever in PROM monitor waiting for internal drive to come up.
Also, sometimes it panics with "Zero divide error". I have never seen
it on other workstations running the same version of NextStep.
After both failures, if the machine is left off for a couple of
minutes, it works fine again. Turning it on immediatelly causes
problems.
We don't have NeXT support (or $$$ for it), so I wonder if there are
things I can try myself before giving up on the machine. I tried
replacing internal SCSI cable and it doesn't make any difference.
--
Oleg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXT crashing at random times. Any ideas?
Message-ID: <OLEG.93Aug31171720@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU>
From: oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (Oleg Kibirev)
Date: 01 Sep 1993 00:17:20 GMT
References: <OLEG.93Aug31165756@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU>
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University inFresno
In-reply-to: oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU's message of 31 Aug 1993 23:57:55 GMT
In article <OLEG.93Aug31165756@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU> oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (I) write:
...
Sorry for replying to myself, but I think I should add more information. I
don't think the HD crashed, because dd bs=8192 </dev/rsd0a >/dev/null completes
without errors or retries. Someone here suggested that the problem is related
to temperature, byt crashes happen 24 hours a day, even at 5am when the room is
reasonably cool - yup, even in Fresno.
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Oleg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ijeff@beauty.carleton.ca (Ian Jefferson)
Subject: Re: Exceptional slow launch of documents on NS/486
Message-ID: <CCnIo8.D60@cunews.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <louis.m.mcdonald-250893092517@warrenton.aero.org>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 01:26:31 GMT
In article <louis.m.mcdonald-250893092517@warrenton.aero.org>
louis.m.mcdonald@mve.aero.org (Louis McDonald) writes:
>
> We are experiencing extremely long times in bringing up WordPerfect (WP)
> documents on a NeXT Step (NS) 486.
>
<crunch>
You might check out the export options in NFS manager. I have had similar
delays opening files in general due to too large a NFS read/write buffer.
Try reduceing the buffers size to 4K from the default 8K. This is also a
problem with DOS machines running NFS. It seems like the 16K buffers
typical of the PC cards can't handle the heat since they can only really
hold one 8K NFS packet.
Most of my experience is with SMC cards with 16K buffer I would expect
that the Intel card might work out a little better since it has 32K of
buffer.
Someone with a little more understanding of network protocols might want
to comment on this. It dosn't make that much sense to me since ethernet
packets are only 1500 bytes or so, but I have run across this time and
time again, pc-route, pc-bridge, and Beame&Whiteside NFS all benefit from
reduce buffer sizes, especially on busy networks.
Hope this helps.
From: murshid@unit.unit.edu (Murshid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: vidio & audio input for color slab
Date: 1 Sep 1993 04:11:46 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Message-ID: <2617e2INN3dg@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: digital eye
Reply-To: murshid@unit.edu
Distribution: world
Does any one have such a device for sale?
murshid @unit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features
Message-ID: <CCnqGo.CMy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
References: <26099h$ja3@digifix.digifix.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 04:14:48 GMT
In article <26099h$ja3@digifix.digifix.com> Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger) writes:
>
>* Additional Graphic Drivers support
>The ATI Graphics Ultra Pro and S3 805 drivers have been
>enhanced to provide support for additional RAM DAC and
>resolutions. In addition, S3 928 support has been added to
>Release 3.2.
>
Does this mean that ATI GUP users will be getting higher
resolution graphics, or has the driver just been optimized for speed?
Anyone know?
Rob
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: meyergru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Uwe Meyer-Gruhl)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: THE CORRECT NUMBERS
Keywords: Toshiba 3401, CD-ROM, Photo-CD
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
References: <CCJ8ML.556@cpccspc.cphk.hk> <1993Aug30.224657.15415@cs.yale.edu> <1993Aug31.134330.19579@cyantic.com>
Originator: meyergru@hpradigc.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Sender: news@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (USENET Newssystem)
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 08:50:36 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Sep1.085036.4011@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
In article <1993Aug31.134330.19579@cyantic.com>, mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) writes:
|> In article <1993Aug30.224657.15415@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
|> >In article <CCJ8ML.556@cpccspc.cphk.hk> tc152678@hkpu01.hkp.hk (Yiu Hou
|> >Cheung) writes:
|> >
|> >> I would like to ask does NS/FIP cpme in CD-ROM format.
|> >
|> >> Is Toshiba XM-3401 supported natively ?
|> >
|> >NEXTSTEP for Intel systems is only distributed on CDROM. NEXTSTEP
|> >currently only supports SCSI CDROM drives.
|> >
|> >--
|> >Nathan "USENET" Janette
|>
|> I thought a more direct answer was needed here. The XM-3401 is a SCSI
|> CD-ROM drive and works under NS/FIP and NS-Black. I have heard, but not
|> been able to confirm that there is a problem with Photo-CD's on the Toshiba
|> drive i.e. they cannot be read.
|>
|> Can anyone help out here? Is this a software problem?
|> --
|>
Well, the SONY drive delivered by NeXT treats Photo-CDs (XA-mode) like a
standard CD-ROM, i.e. 2048 bytes/sector. XA-mode CDs like Photo-CDs have a
header before the real data which is suppressed by the drive logic.
That way, a Photo-CD looks like a standard CD-ROM to the operating system.
The Toshiba drive normally handles XA-mode differently. The header is being read
and delivered to the operating system, which can make no use of it.
The solution to this is to select another 'density' in the Toshiba drive.
This tells the drive to act like the SONY box by simply cutting the headers
off. This has no impact on standard mode CDs nor on DA-CDs, so one could
start the appropriate program to do this one in /etc/rc.local, say, and
otherwise forget about it (However, if you use digital-audio data readout,
you would have to reset the density to the correct value afterwards, since that
is also done by a mode select.).
There are still two remaining problems:
1. Since the handling of XA-mode is that much manufacturer-dependent, there is
no simple procedure to handle them correctly. This is especially true for
multi-session CDs. The original NeXT SONY box can't handle them at all,
and there is no support in the OS for the Toshiba's way of doing it, as
far as I know.
2. The Toshiba drive also deals differently when it comes to adjusting
the volume of DA-CDs. This means that CDPlayer.app cannot set the volume.
Matter-of-fact I do not have the program at hand. It would be nice to incorporate
that function into Carl Edman's (?) program 'play3401' which does digital audio
data readout and plays it over the NeXT. It would have to reset the mode afterwards
anyway, and one could add a function to save .snd files.
cheers, Uwe
Uwe Meyer-Gruhl "And if I die today I'll be the happy phantom
Lehrstuhl Informatik IX and I'll go chasing nuns out in the yard" (TA)
Technische Universitaet Muenchen email:MeyerGru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE
Orleansstr. 34, D-81667 Muenchen tel: ++49 89 48095-209
From: sbart@atlantis.tamu.edu (Stephen Bartholomew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT laser printer mechanical problem
Date: 1 Sep 1993 13:50:59 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <2629c3$it3@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU>
Help!
My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - gets stuck
on the last 3/4 inch or so. Sheets can be pulled out fairly easily by
hand the rest of the way - they feel like they're caught in some
rollers. I think there is a small gear that is broken. Can anyone tell me
were I can get a replacement gear?
Stephen Bartholomew
sbart@atlantis.tamu.edu
From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Choice of DAT drives for NS/fip?
Message-ID: <1993Sep1.101800.15701@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 1 Sep 93 10:18:00 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
I have a clone Intel machine set to arrive soon - It will
have an Adaptac 1542C SCSI card. I got the SCSI tape
driver from ftp.next.com and the docs say it will work
with a DPT 2012B SCSI controller - Will it work with
the Adaptac card? This seems likely since someone recently
reported success with the Adaptac 1542B and the Archive
Python. Any comments?
Second question - I had thought about buying a PLI DAT
drive. Will this work?
Finally, what is the Archive Python - how do I contact
Archive?
Any help will be appreciated since I don't want to make
a big mistake and buy the wrong drive.
Thomas J. Herbert
University of Miami
therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu (NO NeXTmail - for a few more
weeks, at least!)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer mechanical problem
Date: 1 Sep 1993 11:42:36 -0400
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <262ftc$9tl@seine.cs.umd.edu>
References: <2629c3$it3@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU>
In article <2629c3$it3@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> sbart@atlantis.tamu.edu (Stephen Bartholomew) writes:
> My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - ...
> I think there is a small gear that is broken. Can anyone tell me
> were I can get a replacement gear?
get the csn FAQ. I think they are on sonata.cc.purdue.edu
it tells what to do. its a cheap part, but the minimum order is $25.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kravitz@foxtail.com (Jody Kravitz)
Subject: New Disk for Old '040 Cube
Message-ID: <1993Sep1.145823.6730@foxtail.com>
Organization: The Foxtail Group
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 14:58:23 GMT
The disk evaluation article in the month's Byte Magazine
has left me thinking about upgrading the disk in my '040
cube. I once tried, unsuccessfully, to connect a
Seagate ST11200N (3.5", 5400 RPM, 1.2 Gig). Has anyone had
success connecting this, or any of the higher performance
drives to an '040 cube ?
I'd appreciate recommendations via e-mail with the disk model
number and rev of NeXTStep you are using, along with comments
you'd care to share.
Thanks
Jody Kravitz (kravitz@foxtail.com) (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: shill@ccsi.com (Sean L. Hill)
Subject: Re: Educational price for nextstep-386
Message-ID: <1993Sep1.131648.441@ccsi.com>
Sender: shill@ccsi.com
Organization: Crystal Computer Systems, Inc.
References: <260ef4$eg4@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 13:16:48 GMT
In article <260ef4$eg4@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> cnayak@bcm.tmc.edu
(Chiraprakash Nayak) writes:
> What is the current educational price for nextstep(developer's) on
386/486's.
> Do any h/w suppliers sell it bundlled at that price?
>
> Thanks a lot for all the info.
>
> --Chip
> (cnayak@bcm.tmc.edu)
>
>
Don't believe that it will run on a 386.
Here is how to get it:
1. Tell your campus store you want NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors
2. Tell your store to call NACSCORP at 1-800-321-3883 and place the order
3. Tell them to order the educational version (user + developer = $249)
of NEXTSTEP (the NACSCORP id. number is ISBN #9301023296)
Be sure to check the latest Hardware Compatability guide on ftp.next.com
-Sean
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From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Laptop questions - anyone using a NEC Ultralite Versa 33Mhz?
Date: 1 Sep 1993 16:26:34 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <262ifq$kaa@crcnis1.unl.edu>
The latest hardware guide only lists the 20 and 25Mhz varieties of
the Versa. Is anyone using the 33Mhz version? I would assume
that NSi would run fine on it, but would like to hear from any
users running NSi on the 33Mhz kind.
Also, has anyone tried loading NS/i on the Compat LTE 4/25E (not the
4/25C)? The 4/25E has an active matrix mono screen and is a good bit
cheaper than the 4/25C. Again, the 4/25E is not on the hardware guide,
but it would be a viable option if it worked.
Thanks,
Hubert Hickman
hickman@cse.unl.edu
P.S. Any general comments from laptop users would also be
welcome!
From: khare@cco.caltech.edu (Rohit Khare)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ALR Pentium- Done "right"?
Date: 1 Sep 1993 18:03:04 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <262o4oINNfg@gap.caltech.edu>
References: <25pbmrINNb4j@gap.caltech.edu> <1993Aug30.224718.21294@pencom.com>
Keywords: ALR ProAudio Spectrum graphics VLB ATI Ultra
jmorgan@mobius (Justin Morgan) writes:
>Out of curiosity, what graphics card are you using? If I recall the
>specs correctly, the basic Evolution V ships as a case with a bare
>motherboard with VLB and ISA slots open. If NeXTWORLD Magazine is
>correct, you should be seeing roughly 50% of the performance of a
>NeXTstation Color Turbo's graphics if you're using an ATI Ultra Pro
>2MB VLB.
We are using a 2MB ATI GUP VLB... again, this is basically the best PC
money can buy, and let me tell you, money can't buy all that much PC hw :)
As far as the flicker, it is some sort of bus interference, since it only
occurs during window updates.
>The local ComputerLand retailer demonstrated a PAS 16 for me running
>in some kind of clone, and the board sounded splendid (even compared
>to the NeXTstation/cube's DSP sound). Are your sure it's the
>hardware causing the poor sound and not the software?
Again, the PAS seems like a nice enough card, but it's suffereing from
electrical whims -- artifacts that don't show up in custom hw. Also, you
need to have headphones and work in a quiet office -- this flaw won't show
up on a PC speaker or in a crowded floor. We need the card for continuous
audio narration, so these are fair standards. Also, I didn't detect
so much noise when we tested it at the ALR factory, but neither MediaVision
nor NeXT will take responsibilty to help sort out the problem (it may have to
do with bus behavior of the Adaptec 1542B).
Any hints?
Rohit Khare
The eText Project at Caltech
From: jaw@legendre.ucsd.edu (Jon A. Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ibm ambra
Date: 1 Sep 1993 17:59:40 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <262nucINNh4t@network.ucsd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer)
Subject: Writing drivers for video cards (486) ?
Message-ID: <1993Sep1.173713.302@wavehh.hanse.de>
Organization: Hanse Networking e. V., Hamburg, Germany
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 93 17:37:13 GMT
Does anybody know, if there is enough documentation on the screen
server of NeXTStep/486 to write an own server/driver for a special
video card?
If yes, is there a sample server to base my work on?
[The display in question is a 1660/1200 - pixel 2bit grayscale
framebuffer, yes I know, that this will be slow]
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features
Message-ID: <CCovB1.586@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <26099h$ja3@digifix.digifix.com> <CCnqGo.CMy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 18:57:01 GMT
In article <CCnqGo.CMy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes:
>In article <26099h$ja3@digifix.digifix.com> Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger) writes:
>>
>>* Additional Graphic Drivers support
>>The ATI Graphics Ultra Pro and S3 805 drivers have been
>>enhanced to provide support for additional RAM DAC and
>>resolutions. In addition, S3 928 support has been added to
>>Release 3.2.
>>
>
> Does this mean that ATI GUP users will be getting higher
>resolution graphics, or has the driver just been optimized for speed?
>Anyone know?
>
>
>Rob
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>| Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
>| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted
>--
The ATI GUP can only accept 2MB of VRAM, therefore you will not see
1280x1024 resolution in 16-bit. This requires a card with 4MB of VRAM.
I know that S3-928 boards are sold which have 4MB of VRAM on them.
I was talking to Brian Maouad today from Advance 2000. They are
expecting a beta driver for S3-928 any day now. They will be testing
this board/driver on all their NeXTStep configurations.
Also of note is that they are in the process of testing a new
EISA/VESA model which incorporates a DX2/80 chip (40Mz external
80Mz internal). If their S3-928 pans out at the higher frequency,
I'm definitely going to look into it.
For under a grand extra 20% more CPU speed + 60% more pixels.
N.B. the ATI GUP is known to fail at speeds > 33Mz.
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From: mccarthy@banana.wustl.edu (John McCarthy)
Subject: Color terminals
Message-ID: <1993Sep1.190241.8394@wuecl.wustl.edu>
Sender: usenet@wuecl.wustl.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: Washington University, School of Engineering, St. Louis MO
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 19:02:41 GMT
I'm sure this is a FAQ, but I can't find a list of FAQ's, so
accept my apologies.
I have access to a color NeXTstation which doesn't have a terminal.
What sort of terminals can be used (and what do I need to connect them)?
I am a computer ignoramus, and don't want to fork out thousands of
dollars for something that won't work.
Thanks,
john mccarthy
mccarthy@math.wustl.edu
From: jaw@legendre.ucsd.edu (Jon A. Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: next step and ibm-ambra dx2 66
Date: 1 Sep 1993 19:27:32 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
Message-ID: <262t34INNi59@network.ucsd.edu>
References: <26099h$ja3@digifix.digifix.com> <CCnqGo.CMy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
ibm's new company, ambra markets a dx2 66mhz (not the blue
lightning) it can be configured with an ultra pro video card.
will next step run on this platform? the main problem would
seem to be the scsi interface. does it work with nextstep?
ambra also supplies a cdrom with the machine. is it adequate for
installing nextstep? are there any other potential problems such as
bios?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features
Message-ID: <CCp0E8.HKp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
References: <26099h$ja3@digifix.digifix.com> <CCnqGo.CMy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <CCovB1.586@phcs.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1993 20:46:55 GMT
In article <CCovB1.586@phcs.com> jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick) writes:
>
>The ATI GUP can only accept 2MB of VRAM, therefore you will not see
>1280x1024 resolution in 16-bit. This requires a card with 4MB of VRAM.
>
Right, but the driver for the ATI GUP right now supports only
1024x768x16 with 2MB. Memory doesn't seem to be a problem in bumping
that up to NeXT-native resolution 1120x832x16 (1863680 bytes).
Rob
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From: rwerner@samadhi.esd.sgi.com (Ross Werner)
Subject: Re: The NeXTdimension Compendium, PART I
Message-ID: <k5v445e@zuni.esd.sgi.com>
Keywords: NeXTdimension, pro and con, tips and tricks
Sender: news@zuni.esd.sgi.com (Net News)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
References: <CCC5nF.zH@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 93 23:09:03 GMT
I am one of the architects and hardware designers of ND. I'd be
happy to answer ND hardware related questions for any ND users.
I'm doing this on my own time, because I'm proud of what we created.
(Yes, that's a less than flattering picture of me in the Fall '91
NeXTworld. Seems like that was an eternity ago.)
Disclaimers:
I am no longer at NeXT.
I have no access to any NeXT-confidential ND documentation,
just my memory.
So if you want the REAL story about compression on ND, or have an
ND related hardware question, I'll do what I can. Please be
sensitive to the fact that I am no longer at NeXT and won't be
able to help in all cases.
Ross Werner
Organization: City University of New York
Date: Wednesday, 1 Sep 1993 12:07:38 EDT
From: <JTRQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Message-ID: <93244.120738JTRQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer mechanical problem
References: <2629c3$it3@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU>
I have a similar problem...... Please forward or reply with necessary info
on how to correct this problem
James T. Romano
Ciao!
From: jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re.: SVGA
Date: 2 Sep 1993 01:34:21 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <263iitINNd6r@gap.caltech.edu>
the key question is: what bus do you have?
If its EISA, the ATI Graphics UltraPro works great, enjoy.
If your answer is ISA, oh boy, you got troubles.
I have not found a Cirrus Logic board that works with
NSI, not even the horizon board on the hardware list.
I did finally get a Diamond speedstar with the ET4000AX to
work. It works really well. But.. Diamond no longer
makes this card and ther are no surplus (at least in the USA).
So.. I do not know of a dependable source for ISA SVGA yet.
However, I have ssen it work and it is beautifull. I thinks its
faster than the VGA. Cool! I haven't given up yet. Some one
in Finland said a'To The Max' board with a ET400AX works, but I
can't find the manufacturer. Don;'t give up, its worth the effort.
And if you find a board, please let me know. I have one Diamond
speedstar, but three ISA machines.
Also be sure and use a good monitor. Our ISA board worked with
a NEC 4FG monitor, but *NOT* with a NEC Multisync 3D.
Good luck, and if -no- when u find more boards I'll
post it.
John Stevenson
jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
From: jimc@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Jim Cathey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Connor 540 disktab & scsi address info?
Message-ID: <3946@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>
Date: 2 Sep 93 01:23:50 GMT
References: <25ugfuINNor1@network.ucsd.edu>
Organization: Olivetti North America, Spokane, WA
In article <25ugfuINNor1@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes:
>Just purchased a Connor CP30540 (540MB) drive for use with a NeXTStation
>Color, NS 3.1. Of course the drive came with no information on how to set
>the SCSI address, and with NO jumpers on the relevent set of pins, the
>address defaulted to 6! We tried a small number of jumper combinations,
>
>drive? The pins look like this:
>
> . . . . . .
> . . . . . .
That's funny. I'm sitting next to an openfaced CP3540 (540MB) Connor.
No '0', I don't know if this is a different model or a typo by the poster.
Anyway, that pin pattern looks suspiciously like the ones on the front of
the drive which _ain't_ the drive select jumpers. They're used for the
activity LED, and for a diagnostic port on the drive. The drive select
jumpers are leetle bitty ones at the side of the PCB away from the crystal.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer mechanical problem
Message-ID: <1993Sep2.022226.15478@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <262ftc$9tl@seine.cs.umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 02:22:26 GMT
In article <262ftc$9tl@seine.cs.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
writes:
> In article <2629c3$it3@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> sbart@atlantis.tamu.edu (Stephen
Bartholomew) writes:
> > My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - ...
> > I think there is a small gear that is broken. Can anyone tell me
> > were I can get a replacement gear?
>
> get the csn FAQ. I think they are on sonata.cc.purdue.edu
> it tells what to do. its a cheap part, but the minimum order is $25.
Be warned, it's no small task to change that gear. It involves removing
many, many screws and practically stripping the printer to get at the
well-hidden parts.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: andersen@reality.glv.com (Robert Andersen)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features
Message-ID: <1993Sep2.140242.10973@glv.uucp>
Sender: usenet@glv.uucp
Organization: Encompass
References: <CCovB1.586@phcs.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 14:02:42 GMT
Jim Quick writes
> I know that S3-928 boards are sold which have 4MB of VRAM on them.
> I was talking to Brian Maouad today from Advance 2000. They are
> expecting a beta driver for S3-928 any day now. They will be testing
> this board/driver on all their NeXTStep configurations.
>
> Also of note is that they are in the process of testing a new
> EISA/VESA model which incorporates a DX2/80 chip (40Mz external
> 80Mz internal). If their S3-928 pans out at the higher frequency,
> I'm definitely going to look into it.
>
> For under a grand extra 20% more CPU speed + 60% more pixels.
>
> N.B. the ATI GUP is known to fail at speeds > 33Mz.
The company I work for is also looking to get the 80Mz machine as well. As
soon as they get the driver and test it out we should be hearing from them.
--
Robert John Andersen
andersen@reality.glv.com
Encompass
919-460-3285
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kidd@kronos.sphs.indiana.edu (Gary Kidd)
Subject: Uninet Peripherals serial port expander
Message-ID: <CCqL41.Br1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 17:11:59 GMT
Does anyone know what happened to Uninet Peripherals, the maker of the
SLAT-1 serial port expander for NeXT workstations? I got a message about
a new address at the beginning of the year, but I get no response at the
new email address and information has no phone number for them. I'm
trying to determine whether their serial port expander will work with NS
3.1 without having to try it myself. If anyone has a SLAT-1 and knows
about its compatibility with new version of NS, I'd appreciate hearing
about it.
--
Gary R. Kidd
Department of Speech and Hearing Sciences
Indiana University
Bloomington, IN 47405
kidd@kronos.sphs.indiana.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Subject: Re: Connor 540 disktab & scsi address info?
Message-ID: <1993Sep2.114705.1192@aplki.toppoint.de>
Keywords: Conner, SCSI
Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Organization: Andreas Ploeger
References: <25ugfuINNor1@network.ucsd.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 93 11:47:05 GMT
In article <25ugfuINNor1@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes:
> ...Also does anyone know how to set the address to 0 on this drive?
Just had a look at comp.periphs.scsi FAQ:
----8<-----
====
QUESTION: What is the telephone number and address of Conner Peripherals?
ANSWER From: ekrieger@quasar.hacktic.nl (Eric Krieger)
====
CONNER PERIPHERALS, Incorporated WATTS LINE:
3081 Zanker Road PAY LINE: (408)456-4500
San Jose CA 95134 FAX LINE:
BBS LINE: (408)456-4415 (V.32)
CONNER (408)456-3200
====
QUESTION: What are the jumpers on my Conner drive?
ANSWER From: ekrieger@quasar.hacktic.nl (Eric Krieger)
====
QUICK INSTALLATION GUIDE
SCSI
Most SCSI host adapters are compatible with Conner drives.
Software drivers and installation instructions are provided with
the host adapter.
The drives are shipped with SCSI ID set to 7. To select a
different ID refer to the following:
Table A Table B
ID E-1 E-2 E-3 ID E2 E3 E4
0 out out out 0 out out out
1 in out out 1 in out out
2 out in out 2 out in out
3 in in out 3 in in out
4 out out in 4 out out in
5 in out in 5 in out in
6 out in in 6 out in in
7 in in in 7 in in in
Parity is always ENABLED on the CP3200,CP30060,CP30080,CP30100.
All other models, jumper E-4 to disable parity.
SCSI drive parameters:
Model Hds Cyl Sec Table LED
CP2020 2 642 32 A n/a
CP340 4 788 26 B 1
CP3020 2 622 33 A 1
CP3040 2 1026 40 A 1
CP3180 6 832 33 A 1
CP3100 8 776 33 A 1
CP30060 2 1524 39 A 2
CP30080 4 1053 39 A 2
CP30100 4 1522 39 A 2
CP30200 4 2119 49 A 2
CP3200 8 1366 38 A 2
CP3360 8 1806 49 A 2
CP3540 12 1806 49 A 2
LED 1 LED 2
J-4 Pin 1 = + J-1 Pin 3 = +
Pin 2 = - Pin 4 = -
-----8<------
Your model CP30540 (540MB) is not in the list but it shouldn't be that
different. Hope this helps,
Andreas
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From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: TI Travelmate 4000 and NS/FIP
Message-ID: <563@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 2 Sep 93 17:49:35 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Does anyone know what is the reason that the notebook computer TI
travelmate 486/DX250 is not included in the NS compatibility list?
What is the source of the incompatibility?
Thanks, Yadin.
(yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu)
From: haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C Haugeland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 256mb MO -- Success story (easy)
Message-ID: <564@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 2 Sep 93 17:50:05 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
From time to time, there have been various questions and reports in
this group about 3.5" magneto-optical drives and the NeXT. Also, earlier
in the summer, there was some uncertainty about the continued viability
of MOST, the sole supplier of 256mb drive mechanisms. So, I thought it
might be useful to add an up-to-date (and happy) data point.
MOST has apparently made some design changes, and are manufacturing
the 256mb mechanisms again; and several OEMs are selling them.
I ordered a unit (last week) from Airbourne Computer Technologies in
(of all places) Billings Montana, phone # 800-436-8207. (They have
full-page ads in the back of MacWeek, listing a range of Mac peripheral
hardware.) Their 256mb is $1500, which is a few hundred less than
some other vendors; but what mostly attracted me was their 30 day mbg,
in case it didn't work with the NeXT.
Well, it's plug-n-play: I mean, plug it in, turn everything back on,
and It Just Works.
FYI: The unit they shipped me is a NuDesign (brand), though this isn't
specified in the ad. It has a metal case, push-putton SCSI selector, and
two convenience outlets (9.75"w x 11"d x 2.3"h). The fan is slightly
noisier than that in my external Maxtor, but the drive itself is very
quiet. It came with a SCSI cable, terminator, and one disk.
I thought I would try to give a rough idea of its performance, but I'm
a little perplexed by my (unsystematic) observations. One thing is clear:
it's much faster at reading than at writing. I tried two things: loading
and storing a fairly large (1.6mb) file from RAM (edit), and copying a whole
directory tree from hard disk to optical disk (as one would do for backup).
Reading the file takes 10 or 11 seconds (compared to 8 or 9 seconds from
the internal 105 harddisk). Writing that same file, however, gave me
wildly varying results: several times it took only 23 or 24 seconds, but
several other times it took about 70 seconds. (Writing the file to the
105 took only 6 seconds -- faster than reading it, to my surprise.)
The directory I copied contained multiple levels of subdirectories, with
about 15mb in several hundred files all told. Copying it took about 13
minutes -- in other words, it was pretty slow. So, large-scale back-ups
won't be painless; but keeping seldom-used files off-line on these little
disks should work pretty well.
Your mileage may vary.
John
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (charles d. kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which SIMMS work - 70ns or slower
Date: 2 Sep 1993 19:19:33 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Message-ID: <265h05INNlda@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Hello,
I want to purchase some SIMMS and have found some that meet all of
the requirements specified in the FAQ, except they are 70ns instead of
80ns or 100ns. I have a NeXTstation with serial number below ABB0026300.
Can I use the 70ns SIMMS or do I _have_ to have 80ns or 100ns.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
--
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Univ. of Florida Pres: G-ville NeXT Users Group
From: mv@cs.tu-berlin.de (Martin Vetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Serial connection to LJ4
Date: 2 Sep 1993 20:05:45 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <265jmp$j1m@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Summary: LaserJet 4 at serial port of NeXTstation
Keywords: LaserJet 4, serial, NeXTstation
Hello NeXT-friends out there,
I'm running NeXTstep 3.1 on a NeXTstation color and want
to buy a HP LaserJet 4 (or 4M), which I want to connect
to one of the NeXT's serial ports. So would someone
be so kind to answer the question of questions
What does the wiring of the serial NeXT-to-LJ4
cable look like?
Thanks in advance,
Martin Vetter <mv@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu ()
Subject: Where are the S3-928 drivers?
Message-ID: <1993Sep2.200802.13031@news.yale.edu>
Originator: jont@minerva
Keywords: video drivers
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 20:08:02 GMT
Does anyone have any idea when the s3-928 video drivers will be available
(or at least in beta)? With the ATI cards back ordered until about 2003,
the s3 cards appear to the only hope for a decent 3rd party display
solution. Everytime I call NeXT, they tell me to wait about a week. (This
has been going on since late July)
Thanks,
Jon
--
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PO Box 3124 Yale Station |1019 Prospect Ave.
New Haven, CT 06520-3124 |Bethlehem, PA 18018
jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu |(215) 868-4819
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: THE CORRECT NUMBERS
Message-ID: <chris.746999129@vincent2.iastate.edu>
Keywords: Toshiba 3401, CD-ROM, Photo-CD
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
References: <CCJ8ML.556@cpccspc.cphk.hk> <1993Aug30.224657.15415@cs.yale.edu> <1993Aug31.134330.19579@cyantic.com> <1993Sep1.085036.4011@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 19:45:29 GMT
In <1993Sep1.085036.4011@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> meyergru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Uwe Meyer-Gruhl) writes:
>|> >> I would like to ask does NS/FIP cpme in CD-ROM format.
>|> >
>|> >> Is Toshiba XM-3401 supported natively ?
>|> >
>|> >NEXTSTEP for Intel systems is only distributed on CDROM. NEXTSTEP
>|> >currently only supports SCSI CDROM drives.
You don't want a slow IDE CD-ROM under Unix/NeXTSTEP.
>|> I thought a more direct answer was needed here. The XM-3401 is a SCSI
>|> CD-ROM drive and works under NS/FIP and NS-Black. I have heard, but not
>|> been able to confirm that there is a problem with Photo-CD's on the Toshiba
>|> drive i.e. they cannot be read.
One thing other than Photo CD can be commented here. I have a
AHA-1542C and XM-3401 connected to each other. Problems arise under
DOS and Windows and OS/2. However, no problems in NeXTSTEP/FIP. The
problem is XM-3401 cannot work in sync mode under DOS/Windows/OS/2.
Adaptec and Toshiba blame each other. However, NeXTSTEP's driver work
around the problem of the Adaptec AHA-1542C and it works perfectly
with the XM-3401. The only thing I'm not sure is that if there is any
problem with the Photo-CD. I don't have any Photo-CD yet.
>|> Can anyone help out here? Is this a software problem?
Who knows if it's a software problem? They only blame each others and
ignore us, the poor consumer.
>Well, the SONY drive delivered by NeXT treats Photo-CDs (XA-mode) like a
>standard CD-ROM, i.e. 2048 bytes/sector. XA-mode CDs like Photo-CDs have a
>header before the real data which is suppressed by the drive logic.
>That way, a Photo-CD looks like a standard CD-ROM to the operating system.
>The Toshiba drive normally handles XA-mode differently. The header is being read
>and delivered to the operating system, which can make no use of it.
>The solution to this is to select another 'density' in the Toshiba drive.
>This tells the drive to act like the SONY box by simply cutting the headers
>off. This has no impact on standard mode CDs nor on DA-CDs, so one could
>start the appropriate program to do this one in /etc/rc.local, say, and
>otherwise forget about it (However, if you use digital-audio data readout,
>you would have to reset the density to the correct value afterwards, since that
>is also done by a mode select.).
Could you give us a example here?
>There are still two remaining problems:
>1. Since the handling of XA-mode is that much manufacturer-dependent, there is
> no simple procedure to handle them correctly. This is especially true for
> multi-session CDs. The original NeXT SONY box can't handle them at all,
> and there is no support in the OS for the Toshiba's way of doing it, as
> far as I know.
Isn't PC industry great? >;)
>2. The Toshiba drive also deals differently when it comes to adjusting
> the volume of DA-CDs. This means that CDPlayer.app cannot set the volume.
>that function into Carl Edman's (?) program 'play3401' ..........
Where is play3401? In sonata?
--
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sybase client-server connection problem
Date: 2 Sep 1993 22:06:26 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <265qp2INN41u@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
I have run out of ideas why I cannot connect to a Sybase server port on black
hardware from a client on an Intel GX/Professional with an EtherLink III
Ethernet card. I have used black hardware as a client with no problem, but
I've not set up clients very often, so I've probably done something wrong.
Basically, I can successfully telnet from the client to a variety of well-known
ports on the server with no problem (telnet port, rlogin port, etc.). But I
get a "Connection refused" message when I try to connect to the Sybase port
from the client (I can connect to the same port from the server with no
problem).
Can some hardware setup be to blame? What UNIX permissions or setup problems
might cause this problem?
Any help would be appreciated.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: vanhaits@elm.gvsu.edu (Tim VanHaitsma)
Subject: buying a NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Sep2.222737.416@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 22:27:37 GMT
I am considering to purchase a NeXT station for my personal use.
What should I look for. I am a student and am specializing in comp. sci.
I also would be interesting in hearing NeXT user's thoughts on the indy
system from silicon graphics. Does it compete with a NeXT system? Also
what is the NeXT future? is it Obsolete?
You can reach me best with E-mail at:
Vanhaits@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eric@whyanext.whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz)
Subject: Interfacing *.* with the NeXT
Message-ID: <ERIC.93Sep2160756@whyanext.whyanext.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: WhyaNeXT, Inc.
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 00:07:55 GMT
Fellow hardware hackers,
I have a handful of things I'd like to interface to my NeXTstation,
and I'm sure that some of these have been done before:
1. Pioneer Laserdisc (8000?). I would like to experiment with
controlling video images on an external monitor in sync (perhaps) with
things happening on the NeXT's screen. Has anyone gone beyond just
hooking up the laserdisc's RS-232 interface? Does anyone have
software to do neat things?
2. HP plotters. Are there any public domain printer/plotter drivers
for the NeXT (2.1) to interface with some of the desktop color
plotters?
3. NeXT <--> telephone line. I have a Radio Shack box that couples
the audio from the phone line to tape-recorder type jack which can be
plugged into the microphone input. That lets me record voices on the
phone into NeXTmail messages, which I recently did. But what would it
take to set up some kind of voicemail system, with or without using
the DSP port? The other thing I'm interested in is having my NeXT
dial out to a pager number when certain events happen (when my MOO
crashes, for example). Has anyone done this?
4. Simple DSP stuff. I know nothing about the DSP port yet, other
than the pinouts in the NeXT documentation. I am a beginning
programmer, and could use some tips and code for polling the DSP to
check the status of some TTL inputs from various boxes I've built.
5. Serial-port multiplexers. Has anyone found a way of making use of
those 1 to 8 serial port boxes? I have been managing with a
4-position switch box, but it would be nice to expand the machines
serial ports somehow.
Thanks!
Eric
--
Eric Schwartz
eric@whyanext.com (NeXTmail spoken here)
Have you ever run into someone who was gruntled, ruly, or peccable?
From: Tim Pugh <tpugh@oce.orst.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: buying a NeXT
Date: 2 Sep 1993 23:06:46 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
Message-ID: <265ua6$hn8@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
References: <1993Sep2.222737.416@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
In article <1993Sep2.222737.416@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> vanhaits@elm.gvsu.edu (Tim
VanHaitsma) writes:
>
> I am considering to purchase a NeXT station for my personal use.
> What should I look for. I am a student and am specializing in comp. sci.
> I also would be interesting in hearing NeXT user's thoughts on the indy
> system from silicon graphics. Does it compete with a NeXT system? Also
> what is the NeXT future? is it Obsolete?
>
> You can reach me best with E-mail at:
> Vanhaits@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu
--
Forget the SGI machine. It's niche market machine. If you buy a 486 machine, you can
run NEXTSTEP, NT, DOS, OS/2, Solaris and more because the disk can boot into any 4
operating systems. Plus your not locked into one OS per machine. Try them all out and
pick the best of the lot.
The Indy will compete with the 486 box, and the graphics will be better, but you'll get
better software (and cheaper software) with the 486 machine. I think the SGI hardware is
better designed but it does not run NEXTSTEP. And, the hardware is much cheaper.
For the educational price of $249 for NEXTSTEP OS and development tools (including Obj-C,
C++ and ANSI C compiler), you can't beat it. Just look at the feature list.
- Tim -
P.S. I tried to mail rather than post but it bounced, twice, with both addresses.
---
Tim Pugh
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University
tpugh@oce.orst.edu
From: Martin David Frankel <mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: S/PDIF to 56001 chip
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 19:19:12 -0400
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ggVbxkm00Uh78A53Zh@andrew.cmu.edu>
Hi. I've heard from time to time about a chipset made by Crystal
Semiconductor that converts S/PDIF (consumer electronics digital format,
used by CD player digital outputs and so forth) to Moto 56001 format
(used by the NeXT DSP port). I need to find a source for these chips
and data on them. In fact, I don't even know a part number. Has anyone
sucessfully built such an interface? If so, could they give me some
tips? Thanks,
-- Martin
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: buying a NeXT
Date: 2 Sep 1993 23:58:36 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2661bc$1mc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <1993Sep2.222737.416@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
In article <1993Sep2.222737.416@beech.csis.gvsu.edu> vanhaits@elm.gvsu.edu
(Tim VanHaitsma) writes:
>
> I am considering to purchase a NeXT station for my personal use.
> What should I look for. I am a student and am specializing in comp.
sci.
> I also would be interesting in hearing NeXT user's thoughts on the indy
> system from silicon graphics. Does it compete with a NeXT system? Also
> what is the NeXT future? is it Obsolete?
Well, I'll offer you my thoughts. (I tried mailing this but no go, so...)
I'm a student, too, but in anthropology. I'm buying a maxed-out NeXT for
desktop publishing and 3D graphics work. I don't program and I 'm only
middling familiar with UNIX, but personally I've found NeXTs to be magic
machines. I love their integrated multimedia capabilites, the elegance
and beauty of the user interface, and the styling of the machines
themselves. The one I'm buying is still under warranty and I count on Bell
Atlantic to service it later. NeXT built to last, although some of their
stuff is a little flaky. (although my experience is based on seriously
overused campus machines). NeXT has committed to supporting black hardware
at least into 1995 (probably through Release 4.0). Ultimately, of course,
NeXTs are obsolete, as even the 33MHz Turbo systems become eclipsed by
cheap Pentium- and RISC-based systems. But NeXT is an unusual company that
made unusual machines. Not least of their appeal to me is their collectors
value.
I gave serious thought to buying an SGI Indy, and concluded that the cost
of graphics software for SGI's is prohibitive. This may change if the Indy
is a success and creates a low-end market. NeXTSTEP shrinkwrapped apps are
quite cheap for students and of very good quality. The Indy strikes me as
SGI's answer to the NeXT -even their new user interface sounds very
NeXTSTEP-like. I haven't yet actually seen one, but they sound impressive.
If you want to match most of the Indy's video abilities on original NeXT
hardware, look in comp.sys.next.marketplace for someone selling a
NeXTdimension system. They aren't cheap -around $8-10,000, comparable to a
24-bit Indy. But check them out. they will usually come with more memory,
disk space, and bundled software than the equivalent Indy system.
Ultimately, it comes down to what you want to do with your personal
computer. Many UNIX wizards are apparently unhappy with NeXT's partcular
flavor of UNIX and its sometime incompatibility. As a user I think they're
the greatest thing since sliced bread, and hate to use UNIX's power any
other way.
My $0.02 worth. Regards, Steve Weintz scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kapela@poly.edu (Theodore S. Kapela)
Subject: NS/IP on Mylex MB w/Prodesigner IIs SVGA?
Message-ID: <CCrC64.78r@poly.edu>
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 02:56:27 GMT
I've checked the FAQ's and hardware compatibility guides, but found
no other info.
Is NextStep 486 compatible with Mylex EISA motherboards? I have had
no problems running various other OS's (including 386BSD and Linux).
Also, Is it compatible with an Orchid Prodesigner IIs? I have found
this card to be *very* compatible with OS's and Applications. I haven't
found an ET4000AX driver that doesn't work yet (and I've tried many)
Just wondering, since this is the platform I'd like to run
NS/IP on, but I'm having a problem getting the install floppy to
boot. After the Mach Kernel is loaded, a few lines are displayed
on the screen and the machine reboots. This happens too fast to
read (even when I have all caches disabled, and all speeds turned
down as slow as possible).
There is also a BusLogic (formerly bustek) 747s (which is listed as
being compatible) SCSI-2 controller, which is the only other adapter
installed.
Any help/comments would be greately appreciated.
--
Theodore S. Kapela
Center for Applied Large-Scale Computing
Polytechnic University
kapela@poly.edu
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sybase client-server connection problem
Date: 3 Sep 1993 06:05:45 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <266mrpINNcq0@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <265qp2INN41u@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
I have solved my Sybase client-server connection problem by "massaging"
NetInfo. Why this worked I'm not sure. I had defined a hostname alias for
localhost which is identical to the hostname of my NetInfo server (they are the
same physical machine, but maybe this was confusing). I had also specified the
same Ethernet address for this same localhost and the NI server (again, they're
the same machine, but maybe this was confusing). This all happened when I made
my standalone a NI server so that I could create a NI network for the additiona
of the Intel machine. I obviously don't understand NI as well as I should (but
I know a lot more now than I did 48 hours ago :-)
Thanks to those who offered assistance.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Soundblaster() support? ( 3rd request)
Message-ID: <CCrJ6D.Iu5@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 05:27:48 GMT
Does anyone know if NeXT (or any company!) plans to provide support
for the SoundBlaster-16 in 3.x ? There is an odd silence regarding this
issue.
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: znih!dbhinz (David Hinz)
Subject: FAX Modems
Message-ID: <1993Aug28.044601.1225@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Keywords: Fax Modems
Sender: dbhinz@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Hz Consulting
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 04:46:01 GMT
In the announce area there was some information on which modems will work for
faxing from the NeXT. Unfortunately I deleted the post before saving it
(oops!). Could someone e-mail that info to me again. Also if I have a fax modem
that is unsupported what standards does the modem need to meet in order to work
with the Interfax or HSD (the two listed on the fax modem setup window)? I
would appreciate any info someone could send.
David Hinz
Hz Consulting
dbhinz@znih.rmnug.org
From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Summary of Ambra discussion?
Message-ID: <633@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 3 Sep 93 13:13:08 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: cjp@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu
Did anyone save the relevant points of the Ambra compatibility
discussion? Please post if you have any information. Their line of
machines are competitively priced, including Pentium systems for $4295.
How will they work with NSFIP, though?
--
** Casey Palowitch - cjp+@pitt.edu UWSA #570881 **
** Networked Information Services / Technical Services **
** U. of Pittsburgh Library Systems // NeXTSTEP... **
** ...the most respected piece of software on the planet BYTE10/92 **
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: NeXT won't power down.
Message-ID: <CCs5Az.BMs@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 13:25:47 GMT
The subject pretty much says it all. I hit the power button
and then tell it to "turn it off" and it powers down, but then
comes right back on.
I'm running 3.0.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
--
Jon Haveman ,_~o Krannert School of Mgmt
_-\_<, Purdue University
jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (*)/'(*) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310
(317) 497-3527 (Home) (317) 494-6156 (Office)
(317) 494-9658 (Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: dlgover@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca (Donald L. Gover)
Subject: Cirrus logic video how????
Message-ID: <1993Sep2.201715.834@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca>
Organization: DLG Systems
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 20:17:15 GMT
I'm trying to run NS For Intel with a Cirrus logic GD542X board and a
view sonic 6FS monitor. All works ok in 640x480 mode the H/W guide
states that this should run in 1024x768 2 bit grey. When I enable the
Cirrus logic driver I get the 1024x768 but there are vertical bars at
the top and bottom of the screen as if the monitor can't sync. Any
ideas as to what is wrong here???
Don....
--
=============================================================================
Donald L. Gover New Era Systems Services
PHONE: (403) 231-9818
INTERNET: DLGover@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features
Date: 3 Sep 1993 15:21:54 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <267nei$ec7@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <26099h$ja3@digifix.digifix.com> <CCnqGo.CMy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <CCovB1.586@phcs.com>
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features
Date: 3 Sep 1993 15:24:44 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <267njs$ec7@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <26099h$ja3@digifix.digifix.com> <CCnqGo.CMy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <CCovB1.586@phcs.com>
Jim Quick (jq@phcs.com) wrote:
: In article <CCnqGo.CMy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes:
: >In article <26099h$ja3@digifix.digifix.com> Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger) writes:
: >>
: >>* Additional Graphic Drivers support
: >>The ATI Graphics Ultra Pro and S3 805 drivers have been
: >>enhanced to provide support for additional RAM DAC and
: >>resolutions. In addition, S3 928 support has been added to
: >>Release 3.2.
: >>
: >
: > Does this mean that ATI GUP users will be getting higher
: >resolution graphics, or has the driver just been optimized for speed?
: >Anyone know?
: >
: >
: >Rob
: >--
: >| Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
: >| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted
: >--
: The ATI GUP can only accept 2MB of VRAM, therefore you will not see
: 1280x1024 resolution in 16-bit. This requires a card with 4MB of VRAM.
1280x1024*2 = 2.5MB.
Ross.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: butler@snoopycomm.mot.com (Jim Butler)
Subject: NeXT 17" specs (can I use w/ Mac or Sun?)
Organization: Shared Systems Divisions
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 18:54:20 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Sep3.185420.4189@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
Sender: butler@snoopy (Jim Butler)
I've got a CoLOR NeXTslab that I use from time to time doing
audio processing (for business and pleasure!). Anyway, oftentimes the
machine is off, i.e., the monitor's unused.
I would like to use the NeXTslab's 17" color monitor on my
Mac, if possible. So, I ask (NoTE: I'm display-challenged):
(1) Who manufactured this monitor, and is their pin-out similar
to any other monitors?
(2) Are the signals required to drive this monitor "standard" in
any appropriate sense of the word?
(3) (related issues)
If anyone has any comments I would really like to hear from them.
Thanks,
Jim
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Motorola, Inc. | FAX: 708-576-6150
Shared Systems Division | Phone: 708-576-5962
Schaumburg, Illinois USA |
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From: ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Probably an FAQ,No Recycler On 2nd HD?
Date: 3 Sep 1993 21:11:59 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Math, Statistics and Computer Science
Message-ID: <268buv$g6e@spool.mu.edu>
Hello,
This is probably an FAQ, but what do I need to do to an initialized
second SCSI HD on 3.0 to get a recycler?
Thanks,
Alec
--
Alec Ellsworth
Marquette University Dental School
alec@carie.mcs.mu.edu
NeRD #3859
From: tpugh@oce.orst.edu (Tim Pugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Probably an FAQ,No Recycler On 2nd HD?
Message-ID: <268g0b$ncq@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Date: 3 Sep 93 22:20:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.268g0b$ncq
References: <268buv$g6e@spool.mu.edu>
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
In article <268buv$g6e@spool.mu.edu> ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth)
writes:
> Hello,
>
> This is probably an FAQ, but what do I need to do to an initialized
> second SCSI HD on 3.0 to get a recycler?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alec
>
> --
> Alec Ellsworth
> Marquette University Dental School
> alec@carie.mcs.mu.edu
> NeRD #3859
--
FROM NEXTANSWERS:
hard disk external recycler
Q: How do I get a recycler on my external hard disk?
Q: My new external disk displays a panel indicating "No recycler for device..."
A: In order to have recycler on an external disk, you must have a .NextTrash
directory at the mount point for the drive. As an example, here is how you would create
a recycler for an external disk mounted as /archive (issue the following commands as root
in a Terminal window):
machine# cd /archive
machine# df .
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/sd2b 216311 152584 42095 78% /archive
machine# mkdir .NextTrash
machine# chown root.wheel .NextTrash
machine# chmod 1777 .NextTrash
machine# ls -ldg .NextTrash
drwxrwxrwt 19 root wheel 1024 Sep 30 10:42 .NextTrash/
After completing these steps, you'll need to reboot the system for the new recycler to be
properly recognized.
QA812
Valid for 2.0
---
Tim Pugh
College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Oregon State University
tpugh@oce.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 2 ODs for sale
Message-ID: <sean-030993150224@128.187.73.66>
From: sean@digaudio.byu.edu (Sean Luke)
Date: 3 Sep 93 15:02:13 -0700
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University
I've had two optical disks sitting in a drawer for a while, almost never
used (to my knowledge). I don't know the going price for optical disks
nowadays, so if you're interested, make an offer!
____________________________________________________________
Sean Luke
Brigham Young University MILK: It Comes From Cows
sean@digaudio.byu.edu
____________________________________________________________
From: christ@park.bu.edu (Christian Mannes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help please: trying to get 3COM Etherlink card to work
Date: 3 Sep 93 18:59:29
Organization: B.U. Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <CHRIST.93Sep3185929@park.bu.edu>
Hi,
I have a problem connecting to ethernet with NS 3.1 on a
Gateway 2000, using the 3COM Etherlink III 3C509-TP card.
After following the instructions, and making sure that both
card and wiring are ok, ping reports 100% packet loss, although
ifconfig en0 tells me that the network is up and running.
Other machines can't ping to mine, either.
According to NeXT customer support, the card should work,
but they tell me that it's tricky to configure it. Does
anybody know what it takes to get that thing to connect
to the ethernet? Is there any tricks I need to know about
broadcast addresses, ethernet addresses, netmask, and the
like?
Any help would be appreciated,
Thanks,
-------------------------------------
Christian Mannes
Dept. of Cognitive and Neural Systems
Boston University
christ@cns.bu.edu
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: The NeXTdimension Compendium, PART I
Date: 3 Sep 1993 23:13:53 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <268j3h$n7d@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <k5v445e@zuni.esd.sgi.com>
In article <k5v445e@zuni.esd.sgi.com> rwerner@samadhi.esd.sgi.com (Ross
Werner) writes:
> So if you want the REAL story about compression on ND, or have an
> ND related hardware question, I'll do what I can. Please be
> sensitive to the fact that I am no longer at NeXT and won't be
> able to help in all cases.
Thanks for offering to answer questions about the ND.
I have one, what is the connector on the ND that looks like some daughter
board might fit into it? I don't see it on any of the ND literature.
--
====================================
Alex Currier
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
NeXTcube #1302 / ND and proud of it.
NeXTmail preferred!
====================================
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/IP on Mylex MB w/Prodesigner IIs SVGA?
Date: 3 Sep 1993 23:18:59 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <268jd3$n8d@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <CCrC64.78r@poly.edu>
In article <CCrC64.78r@poly.edu> kapela@poly.edu (Theodore S. Kapela) writes:
> Is NextStep 486 compatible with Mylex EISA motherboards? I have had
> no problems running various other OS's (including 386BSD and Linux).
Yes, NS/FIP does work with the Mylex EISA motherboard. I've used a Mylex EISA
with 256K cache (and 128K as well) and a DX2/66. I was using the DPT 2022 and
ATI video card in that system... I could help you with these parts but I
couldn't tell you how to set up with anything else.
--
====================================
Alex Currier
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
NeXTcube #1302 / ND and proud of it.
NeXTmail preferred!
====================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: montyb@avalon.mlo.dec.com (Monty Brandenberg)
Subject: Re: Interfacing *.* with the NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Sep4.000538.7366@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
Sender: usenet@nntpd.lkg.dec.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
References: <ERIC.93Sep2160756@whyanext.whyanext.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 00:05:38 GMT
In article <ERIC.93Sep2160756@whyanext.whyanext.com>, eric@whyanext.whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz) writes:
|
|1. Pioneer Laserdisc (8000?). I would like to experiment with
|controlling video images on an external monitor in sync (perhaps) with
|things happening on the NeXT's screen. Has anyone gone beyond just
|hooking up the laserdisc's RS-232 interface? Does anyone have
|software to do neat things?
|
I'll take a hit at this one. I have an LD-V8000 and wanted to manage
it with my cube. The only commercial package that might attempt this
is from Xanthus based in the Netherlands, I believe (they did many of
the tools used to put together the Electronic AppWrapper). At the time
I enquired, they didn't have a backend specifically for the 8000 but
that should be relatively trivial with OC. There is a package in the
archives that does manage a Sony but I never looked at it.
monty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.next.misc,comp.sys.next
From: kapela@poly.edu (Theodore S. Kapela)
Subject: NS/IP install in endless reboot - HELP
Message-ID: <CCsxsq.4qB@poly.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 23:41:13 GMT
I've been trying to install NeXTStep 486 on a Northgate 486/33 EISA tower.
Configuration:
33MHz Mylex 486 EISA motherboard
8 MB Ram
5 1/4" floppy
3 1/2" floppy
340MB IDE hard drive
Buslogic 747S Fast SCSI-2
Toshiba 330 CDROM
Orchid Prodesigner IIs SVGA w/1MB ram (ET4000AX)
PS/2-style Microft mouse.
I have disabled and unplugged the 5 1/4" floppy, and made the 3 1/2"
drive A:
When the boot starts, I get the boot: prompt, and I hit <return>. The
Mach kernel loads, and starts. A few lines are displayed, and the
machine reboots almost immediately. After slowing everything down
as much as possible, I still can't read what is on the display.
I have used various other OS's, including DOS (yuck), MS windows,
386BSD and Linux. Nothing else has had any problems.
I've experimented with almost every possible configuration and combination
of jumber settings.
I tried booting with "config=Default", but this resulted in lots
of messages about other Default config files not being found. After pressing
a key, the machine reboots again.
A call to Northgate Tech Support resulted in the response "What
do you want to run???". It seems they only know DOS.
32MB ram is on the way, and I may be upgrading the video card, but I
want to know if it is worth continuing trying to get NS/IP running.
I'd really like to see it going on this machine.
Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
--
Theodore S. Kapela
Center for Applied Large-Scale Computing
Polytechnic University
kapela@poly.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: matt@nightfly.uucp (Matt Emerson)
Subject: will NeXT cdrom drive work as a boot device on a sun?
Message-ID: <1993Sep3.230632.924@nightfly.uucp>
Organization: Matt's computer in Medina, Ohio
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 23:06:32 GMT
can one boot a sun sparc 1+ using a NeXT cdrom drive?
-matt
--
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412 E. Homestead St. / Medina, OH 44256-1763 / voice: +1 (216) 722-2077
Sender: news@stasys.sta.sub.org
From: cmarq@salyko.cube.net (Christoph Marquardt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT won't power down.
Date: 4 Sep 1993 11:39:07 GMT
Organization: CUBENet Multiline BBS
Message-ID: <269uor$sto@salyko.cube.net>
References: <CCs5Az.BMs@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Jon Haveman (jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu) wrote:
> The subject pretty much says it all. I hit the power button
> and then tell it to "turn it off" and it powers down, but then
> comes right back on.
It's not a bug it's a feature!
Newer black hardware is able to power on automatically (e.g.
network servers if they get powered down accidentally ).
You should go in Preferences and look for the start-up preferences
inspector
(next to the clock preferences button). There you can disable automatic
power
on.
Christoph Marquardt
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Re: NeXT won't power down.
Message-ID: <CCu4o5.56n@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
References: <269uor$sto@salyko.cube.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 15:07:17 GMT
In article <269uor$sto@salyko.cube.net> cmarq@salyko.cube.net (Christoph
Marquardt) writes:
> Jon Haveman (jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu) wrote:
> > The subject pretty much says it all. I hit the power button
> > and then tell it to "turn it off" and it powers down, but then
> > comes right back on.
>
> It's not a bug it's a feature!
>
> Newer black hardware is able to power on automatically (e.g.
> network servers if they get powered down accidentally ).
>
> You should go in Preferences and look for the start-up preferences
> inspector
> (next to the clock preferences button). There you can disable automatic
> power
> on.
>
> Christoph Marquardt
Oh, right! I completely forgot about this.
Thanks much.
--
Jon Haveman ,_~o Krannert School of Mgmt
_-\_<, Purdue University
jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (*)/'(*) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310
(317) 497-3527 (Home) (317) 494-6156 (Office)
(317) 494-9658 (Fax)
From: guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: NeXTSTEP/FIP & i860
Date: 4 Sep 1993 18:09:03 GMT
Organization: The Smelly Ditch
Message-ID: <26aljv$d80@bradley.bradley.edu>
Saw the other day (in Mondo 2000) that Video 7 (I thought
they were gone/renamed?) is coming out with an i860 based video
card for ibm compatibiles. Does anyone know of plans to port
the ND displayserver to other i860 based cards?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gwhite@trevnx.bio.dfo.ca (George White 6-8509)
Subject: Seeking advice on replacing dim mono CRT's
Message-ID: <GWHITE.93Sep4121611@trevnx.bio.dfo.ca>
Sender: usenet@nstn.ns.ca (NNTP Entity)
Organization: Bedford Institute of Oceanography
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 16:16:11 GMT
We have a couple 1989 vintage mono Megapixel displays that are getting
rather dim (I gather that this is a common problem; we did try adjusting
them but the effect was only temporary). I checked with Bell Atlantic,
but they won't ship replacement CRT's so we would have to send the
monitors to them, which would leave us without a system while the
monitor is being shipped to CA and back. Fast shipping (with customs
broker fees, etc.) would cost $300-400 per monitor, slow shipping
only half that. The savings would even pay for a spare (dim) monitor
to let us keep working while the older ones are being fixed, but
even better would be to do the repairs locally.
Is there any other source for the CRT's used in the older Megapixel
mono screens? I had a local shop take one apart to get the part
numbers. Although the label says "Toshiba", neither the US not
Canadian Toshiba parts people could find the P/N in their systems.
Before I call Japan I wanted to see if the net can help.
--
/George White <GWhite@BIOnet.BIO.DFO.ca> Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
From: cruiser1@stein1.u.washington.edu (Astrolog)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ARGH! Power outage crashed my optical disk! :(
Date: 5 Sep 1993 08:37:30 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <26c8ga$pao@news.u.washington.edu>
Summary: Help!
Keywords: NeXT optical disk
I have one of those 256 megabyte NeXT read/write optical disks. I was
running with it inserted in the drive on one of those black cube
machines. My current working directory in the terminal window I was
using was on the optical disk a few subdirectories down from its root.
I wasn't doing any disk access then (but the OS may have been doing
stuff in the background).
Suddenly a fuse blew in the building, and as a result one of the two
rows of NeXT machines in it (i.e. the line I was on) gets its power
cut off to its half dozen machines. Ok, so my machine went dead with
the optical disk still in the drive. When power came back and the
machine rebooted, I went to insert and remount my disk. But, oh no, I
now got the message:
"Optical disk '/od1' is damaged. <eject> <initialize> <repair>".
Well eject leaves me where I started, and no way in the world do I
want to wipe out 150 megabytes of data, so I picked <repair>. The
result is that the machine read and wrote intensely on the disk for a
minute, which was promising, but then I got:
"Could not repair. <eject>".
So no choice left here but to eject. I tried inserting the disk again
a few more times, but always got the same damaged message. Hit repair
again, and again got a could not fix after a minute.
Now, I don't know how reliable this optical disk technology is.
Before this incident I would occasionally get some disk IO error
reading some random directory or file. But frequently trying a few
times or later would work. One time after doing nothing special I got
the "disk damaged, repair?" dialog upon inserting this same disk, but
here the repair succeeded after a minute and everything behaved
normally afterward.
Sorry if I sound like a clueless newbie, but I'm no NeXT hardware
expert! Does anyone know or can guess exactly happened here? Was there
a disk write going on as the power blew? Did some surge blast into the
disk? Is just the root directory corrupted? How does this "repair"
functionality work?
So, is there any couse of action I can take to get some or all of my
data back? Even if some surge or something wiped out the root
directory, I doubt that the entire disk's contents would be corrupted?
For other PC's I know of disk munchers with direct track readers, so
even without a directory one can do things like directly read disk
segments into memory and then search through them until you find your
bytes of data. Is there any such utility for NeXT optical disks? Or
any other ideas someone might have?
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+ Walter D. "Cruiser1" Pullen | cruiser1@stein.u.washington.edu +
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: S/PDIF to 56001 chip
Message-ID: <CCsrLE.2Ep@infoserv.com>
Date: 3 Sep 93 21:27:13 GMT
References: <ggVbxkm00Uh78A53Zh@andrew.cmu.edu>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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In article <ggVbxkm00Uh78A53Zh@andrew.cmu.edu> Martin David Frankel
<mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
#Hi. I've heard from time to time about a chipset made by Crystal
#Semiconductor that converts S/PDIF (consumer electronics digital format,
#used by CD player digital outputs and so forth) to Moto 56001 format
#(used by the NeXT DSP port). I need to find a source for these chips
#and data on them. In fact, I don't even know a part number. Has anyone
Crystal Semiconductor is in Austin, Texas.
The part numbers are 8402/8412 for receiving and transmitting.
They have an evaluation board for the 5336/5338 and 5339 that also covers
the 8402 AES/EBU and S/PDIF transmitter chip.
#sucessfully built such an interface? If so, could they give me some
#tips? Thanks,
I have built an interface with the 5326 A/D and 8402/8412 chips.
My best advice is to not try to hook up the transmitter w/out the
application note for the evaluation board. It takes only a short time
to do with the notes but takes a long time w/out because they don't
fully explain all the functions of the pins as they pertain to AES/EBU
and S/PDIF although they do detail how to connect the pins.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT 17" specs (can I use w/ Mac or Sun?)
Message-ID: <CCv3ur.3Ht@infoserv.com>
Date: 5 Sep 93 03:47:14 GMT
References: <1993Sep3.185420.4189@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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In article <1993Sep3.185420.4189@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
butler@snoopycomm.mot.com (Jim Butler) writes:
#
#
# I've got a CoLOR NeXTslab that I use from time to time doing
#audio processing (for business and pleasure!). Anyway, oftentimes the
#machine is off, i.e., the monitor's unused.
#
# I would like to use the NeXTslab's 17" color monitor on my
#Mac, if possible. So, I ask (NoTE: I'm display-challenged):
#
# (1) Who manufactured this monitor, and is their pin-out similar
#to any other monitors?
Philips for the FIMI monitors. Unless it's ADB I don't think you would have
a SONY. You can get a cable that connects to the 15 pin out on a Mac to
the weird connectors on the back of SUN and NeXT monitors. It is a
standard connector.
#
# (2) Are the signals required to drive this monitor "standard" in
#any appropriate sense of the word?
Yep, it's standard the funny connector just had the RGB on tiny RCA type
connectors in the main connector.
THe monitor will work on a Mac provided you have one of the high end
video cards. i have seen it work with several of the 16 and 24bit cards.
The bad things ae that for the picture to look good the monitor would have to
adjusted.
The cable that is standard swaps the blue and red.
Kent
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From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd)
Subject: Do Some PC Serial Ports Work With Current Drivers?
Message-ID: <1993Sep5.193634.2891@gleap.sccsi.com>
Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com
Organization: GiantLeap Software
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 19:36:34 GMT
I heard that the problem with the current serial drivers (for white hardware)
is that most PC serial cards are not "uart compliant" or something like that.
Is it true that there are some serial boards that do not have any problem with
the existing serial drivers? If so, which ones and why?
--
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GiantLeap Software
From: kent@cs.mcgill.ca (Kent TSE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Repair of NeXT MegaPixel Displays
Date: 5 Sep 1993 22:26:00 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <26dp1o$b8i@homer.cs.mcgill.ca>
Keywords: MegaPixel, focus, repair
I'm looking for a place where I can have some NeXT MegaPixel
Displays repaired. The main problem with them is that they are
out of focus and very dim. I need to have over 40 Displays
replaced.
- Kent
--
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System Programmer McGill University
kent@cs.mcgill.ca 3480 University Street, Room 318
(514) 398-6697 Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H3A 2A7
FAX: (514) 398-3883 SOCS Help Desk: (514) 398-7087
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Repair of NeXT MegaPixel Displays
Message-ID: <1993Sep6.005053.29377@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <26dp1o$b8i@homer.cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 00:50:53 GMT
In article <26dp1o$b8i@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> kent@cs.mcgill.ca (Kent TSE)
writes:
> I'm looking for a place where I can have some NeXT MegaPixel
> Displays repaired. The main problem with them is that they are
> out of focus and very dim. I need to have over 40 Displays
> replaced.
Archive-name: NeXT-Hardware-General-FAQ
Last-modified: Fri Aug 27 01:27:51 EDT 1993
Version: 3.0
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: K1. Where to obtain hardware service?
[Jeff Hite jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu]
USA hardware service has been purchased by Bell Atlantic. They will be
supporting the Authorized Service Centers and are selling extended
warranty contracts.
Bell Atlantic Computing Technology Services
Voice: 800 499 6398, or 800 848 NeXT
Fax: 510 732 3078
____________________________________________________________________________
Archive-name: NeXT-Hardware-Peripherals-FAQ
Last-modified: Fri Aug 27 01:27:51 EDT 1993
Version: 3.0
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: M23. How to adjust MegaPixel Display brightness and focus?
[From: Charles William Swiger <infidel@cmu.edu>]
I have adjusted several monitors with no problems, but make sure you
know what you are doing before opening anything. I expressly disclaim
responsibility for any ill results that may occur.
In order to adjust NeXT's MegaPixel display (called 'the monitor'
hereafter), you'll need (a) the NeXTtool (or a 3mm Allen wrench), (b) a
plastic adjustment tool (preferred) or a thin bladed screwdriver, and
possibly (c) a Phillips-head screwdriver.
(NB: A similar procedure will work for color monitors, but you should
either know what you're doing or you'll probably be better off letting a
pro deal with it.)
Turn off the computer. Disconnect all cables to the monitor. Look at the
back of the monitor. There will be 4 screws there; use the NeXTtool (or
Allen wrench) to remove them. Remove the plastic back of the monitor and
put it out of your way.
Reconnect the cables and turn the computer back on. As the machine
powers up, examine the back of the monitor. You'll see a metallic box
(usually silver, though some are black) surrounding the monitor's
vitals. This protects you against the dangerous voltages inside, and
also insulates the monitor from electromagnetic noise. On the back of
this box are several holes for performing adjustments. There are two
focus controls (labeled 'focus' and 'dynamic focus'), a brightness
control (labeled 'brightness' or possibly 'black level') and several
others that adjust various things like screen size and position.
Depending on the exact placement of the controls on the circuit board of
your specific monitor, some of these controls may be difficult (or
impossible) to adjust from the back. If this is the case, I will describe
what's necessary below. Otherwise, adjust the appropriate controls
using either an adjustment tool or a screwdriver. Be warned that a
screwdriver probably will cause some interesting video effects when
it enters the case. Ignore this the best you can, or find a plastic
adjustment tool, which is what you *really* should be using anyway.
Using a flashlight will help you see into the hole so that you can align
the business end of the tool correctly.
Focus and position controls are fairly obvious. Adjust them slowly
until you're happy with the results. Don't muck with anything you don't
need to; the factory settings are usually pretty decent.
To correctly adjust the brightness, follow this procedure: Turn the
brightness of the monitor all the way down using the keyboard. Adjust
the brightness control on the back of the monitor until a barely
noticeable picture forms. Then turn the brightness down a little so
this picture disappears completely. Check that you can get adequate
brightness by using the keyboard to brighten the screen. If the display
isn't bright enough, adjust the brightness control on the rear of the
monitor high enough so that the monitor display is adequate. Note that
you won't be able to dim the screen completely from the
keyboard...sorry.
Once you're finished, shut down the computer, take off the cables,
reattach the back of the monitor, and reconnect the cables. You're
done.
If the control you need to adjust proves to be difficult, you may need to
enter the metal case. This happened on one monitor's focus control and
another's brightness.
WARNING: THE VOLTAGES INSIDE THE MONITOR'S CASE ARE VERY DANGEROUS,
EVEN WHEN THE MONITOR IS OFF. BE VERY CAREFUL, OR YOU CAN SERIOUSLY
INJURE OR EVEN KILL YOURSELF. Do not perform the next instructions
unless you are confident that you know what you are doing.
You'll have to power off the computer again, and disconnect the cables.
Looking at the monitor from the back, notice a section of metallic
shielding on the right side of the metal box that extends to the picture
tube. This is where the flyback transformer is connected. It shields a
wire that is charged to about 25,000 V. DO NOT TOUCH THIS WIRE, IT CAN
SHOCK YOU THROUGH ITS INSULATION. Being very careful of this, remove
the metal case by unscrewing the Philip's head screws that hold the case
on. Don't touch the screws that hold the picture tube into the front of
the monitor's case.
Once you've gotten the metal box off, reconnect the cables. Figure out
what control you're going to adjust, and make sure that you can do so
without touching anything else inside. Again, *watch out* for the wire
that connects to the picture tube on the right side.
Power up the computer. I recommend that you use only one hand to make the
adjustment, and that your other hand be placed in your pocket (or
similar equivalent, if you're wearing clothes lacking pockets). This
precaution reduces the chances that you'll make a short circuit
between one hand, your heart, and the other hand-- a good idea. Perform
the necessary adjustment(s), being very careful not to touch anything
inside. Then shut down and reassemble the monitor, following the
directions given above.
Hopefully, these instructions will prove useful. Once again, please
be very careful...I don't want your death and/or injury on my
conscience (or a lawsuit, for that matter, either :-)
--
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PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: yono@donald.cc.utexas.edu (Suryono Adisoemarta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to set to 800x600 on NS/FIP ?
Date: 5 Sep 1993 20:33:00 -0500
Organization: The University of Texas - Austin
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <26e40c$abt@donald.cc.utexas.edu>
Hi, I just install the NS/FIP 3.1 on my Tseng4000 based machine,
but it started at 640x480 (VGA) resolution.
How to change it to 800x600 ?
I tried using the Tseng4000 driver, but it gave strange result (looks like
the screen wraps in horizontal direction, 1280x1024 ? )
Thanks for all pointers,
Yono
--
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Petroleum Engineering Dept. paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (NeXT!)
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From: "Kharim Hogan" <kharim@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Looking for MARTIN VETTER!!!
Message-ID: <1993Sep5.203719.22198@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 20:37:13 -0500
Hi,
I received mail from Martin Vetter on the 4th of September who apparently
got my name from one of the NeXT newsgroups. I've been trying to answer
him at the address he gave me (mv@cs.tu-berlin.de) and it keeps bouncing
back to me. If you're out there Martin, could you write to me again and
perhaps give me another address to catch you at or let me know what's up
with the address I have?
Or if anybody else knows how I can find him, please let me know.
Thanks,
Kharim Hogan
kharim@cs.indiana.edu
From: michaell@swdev.research.otc.com.au (Michael Lofquist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which SCSI Disks/DAT for motorola NeXT ??
Date: 6 Sep 1993 02:00:49 GMT
Organization: Technical Development Group, Telstra International
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26e5kh$i09@turin.research.otc.com.au>
Hi,
I need a good SCSI disk ( 500 - 1000 MB external )
for our NeXT station and also a good DAT. But I want
something with good price/performance !!
Any recommendations ??
If you could email some distributers names and fax numbers
from US, we will import direct.
Anybody had any luck using ARTECON products ??
As far as I can see they are SUN specific drives / tapes !!
But the SCSI versions would work with NeXT stations ??
Help me before I go out spend to many $$ on something
that is not to good with our NeXTSTATION ??
Thanks
--
--------------------------------------------
Michael Lofquist
Email: michaell@swdev.research.otc.com.au
michaell@research.otc.com.au
--------------------------------------------
From: otto@coactive.com (Otto Lind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Power supply blew up
Date: 6 Sep 1993 01:14:25 GMT
Organization: Coactive Aesthetics Inc.
Message-ID: <26e2thINN92@disc.coactive.com>
Keywords: power-supply,hardware
We suffered our first hardware related casualty here at Coactive, and need to
replace the power supply in one of our mono (non-turbo) workstations. Where
is a good (and cheap) source for black hardware parts like power supplies?
Also, we have both color and mono workstations and would like to buy a spare
power supply for them. Is the power supply the same on both machines?
Thanks in advance,
Otto
--
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otto@coactive.com P.O. Box 425967, San Francisco, CA 94142
netcom!coactive!otto voice:(415)626-5152 fax:(415)626-6320
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Power supply blew up
Message-ID: <1993Sep6.052435.1813@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <26e2thINN92@disc.coactive.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 05:24:35 GMT
In article <26e2thINN92@disc.coactive.com> otto@coactive.com (Otto Lind)
writes:
> We suffered our first hardware related casualty here at Coactive, and need
to
> replace the power supply in one of our mono (non-turbo) workstations.
Where
> is a good (and cheap) source for black hardware parts like power supplies?
> Also, we have both color and mono workstations and would like to buy a
spare
> power supply for them. Is the power supply the same on both machines?
Archive-name: NeXT-Hardware-General-FAQ
Last-modified: Fri Aug 27 01:27:51 EDT 1993
Version: 3.0
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: K1. Where to obtain hardware service?
[Jeff Hite jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu]
USA hardware service has been purchased by Bell Atlantic. They will be
supporting the Authorized Service Centers and are selling extended
warranty contracts.
Bell Atlantic Computing Technology Services
Voice: 800 499 6398, or 800 848 NeXT
Fax: 510 732 3078
--
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PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features
Message-ID: <1993Sep6.072341.8494@cubx.com>
Sender: news@cubx.com
Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
References: <267njs$ec7@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 07:23:41 GMT
In article <267njs$ec7@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross
Garrett Cutler) writes:
> Jim Quick (jq@phcs.com) wrote:
> : In article <CCnqGo.CMy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis) writes:
> : >In article <26099h$ja3@digifix.digifix.com> Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM
(Conrad Geiger) writes:
> : >>
> : >>* Additional Graphic Drivers support
> : >>The ATI Graphics Ultra Pro and S3 805 drivers have been
> : >>enhanced to provide support for additional RAM DAC and
> : >>resolutions. In addition, S3 928 support has been added to
> : >>Release 3.2.
> : >>
> : >
> : > Does this mean that ATI GUP users will be getting higher
> : >resolution graphics, or has the driver just been optimized for speed?
> : >Anyone know?
> : >
> : >
> : >Rob
> : >--
> : >| Robert Davis
davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
> : >| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail
accepted
> : >--
>
> : The ATI GUP can only accept 2MB of VRAM, therefore you will not see
> : 1280x1024 resolution in 16-bit. This requires a card with 4MB of
VRAM.
>
> 1280x1024*2 = 2.5MB.
>
> Ross.
Not !
1280x1024x2 = .31 Mo (320 Ko) [4 grays]
1280x1024x8 = 1.5 Mo [256 grays]
1280x1024x16 = 2.5 Mo [4096 colors]
[
Color Depth (bits/pixel) / 8 (1 Byte = 8 bit) / 1024 (1 Kb = 1024 bytes)
/ 1024 (1 Mb = 1024 Kb) * xxxx (H res) * yyyy (V res)
= Memory Size Needed in Mb
8/8/1024/1024*1024*1280=1280/1024=1.5
]
While the ATI GUP memory could be big enough to display 256 Grays at that
resolution (1280x1024), it wouldn't be for 16 bit colors)
Whether the ATI GUP can display any of those is another story (driver
related & RAMDAC related, I believe)
My $99.95 worth ;)
Ed.
--
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ed@cubx.com It all started 2 full back-up ago...
From: hibbitt@strings1.ph.qmw.ac.uk (John Hibbitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: will NeXT cdrom drive work as a boot device on a sun?
Date: 6 Sep 1993 12:42:54 GMT
Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK
Message-ID: <26fb8e$6ks@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
References: <1993Sep3.230632.924@nightfly.uucp>
In article <1993Sep3.230632.924@nightfly.uucp> matt@nightfly.uucp (Matt
Emerson) writes:
> can one boot a sun sparc 1+ using a NeXT cdrom drive?
>
> -matt
> --
> Matt Emerson fmsystm!nightfly!matt or nightfly!matt@fmsystm.ncoast.org
> 412 E. Homestead St. / Medina, OH 44256-1763 / voice: +1 (216) 722-2077
I haven't been able able to do so but I'd like to know if it's
possible.
'probe-scsi' in 'new command' mode from the monitor PROM reveals
that the sytem has picked it up. However, with the Solaris 1.1 CD
inserted, 'b (0,6,2)' results in something like:
Bad magic in disk label, disk unreadable
You'd imagine it should be possible since it's actually just a
SONY CDU-541 or something.
Anybody ?
Thanks
--
John Hibbitt
Dept of Physics, Queen Mary & Westfield College (University of London)
Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, United Kingdom
Email: J.Hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk (including NeXTMail)
Tel: +44 71-975-5055
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bruce@TotSysSoft.com (Bruce Gingery)
Subject: Re: Seeking advice on replacing dim mono CRT's
Message-ID: <1993Sep6.094307.2428@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
References: <GWHITE.93Sep4121611@trevnx.bio.dfo.ca>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 09:43:07 GMT
In article <GWHITE.93Sep4121611@trevnx.bio.dfo.ca>
gwhite@trevnx.bio.dfo.ca (George White 6-8509) writes:
-> We have a couple 1989 vintage mono Megapixel displays
-> that are getting rather dim (I gather that this is a
-> common problem; we did try adjusting...
[snip]
-> even better would be to do the repairs locally.
->
-> Is there any other source for the CRT's used in the
-> older Megapixel mono screens? I had a local shop take
-> one apart to get the part numbers. Although the label
-> says "Toshiba", neither the US not Canadian Toshiba
-> parts people could find the P/N in their systems.
-> Before I call Japan I wanted to see if the net can help.
The tube used in the older MegaPixle displays (we have one
which we had to have refurbished) is a fairly common CRT. The
back-end electronics, however are NOT the most common for the
tube. There are some places around (sorry cannot give you a
name and address at present) which remove the back-end, and
actually rebuild the Tube. Again be sure that they use the
CORRECT filament -- it is NOT the most common voltage.
Bruce Gingery bruce@TotSysSoft.com
Total System Software
NeXT-Mail preferred, MIME-Mail ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sib@at-mail-server.vitro.com
Subject: Best (i.e. easiest) CDROM drive for NSFIP installation
Message-ID: <1993Sep6.125240.25941@vitro.com>
Keywords: CD-ROM drive
Sender: news@vitro.com (USENET News System)
Organization: TheNews
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 12:52:40 GMT
Well, NSFIP has finally arrived... (Hurray!) What are the Net's
recommendations for CD-ROM drives to use for installation? Which SCSI
cards work best? Please post reponses to this group.
Thanks,
Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Subject: Problems running NS/I on ALR Evo V Pentium w/ ATI 2 MB
Message-ID: <1993Sep6.160230.29396@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 93 16:02:30 GMT
I'm evaluating NS/I on an ALR Evolution V for Alpine's NEXTSTEP marketing
effort. The Evo V came from ALR with the 2 MB ATI VL-Bus card, which has
never worked properly with NS in 16-bit color, though it works fine in
default VGA mode.
The problem is when I boot at any resolution, with any color depth, using
the ATI drivers included with NS/I, the Workspace comes up with eight
vertical red stripes, yellow garbage behind the stripes, and with the
Workspace behind the whole lot in psychedelic patterns. I'm reasonably
confident there are no sync problems, as the monitor I'm using is a Nanao
T560i, which should sync at least in 10 x 7 @ 60 hz.
The machine boots fine in Windows standard mode, with no weird color
banding, though I can't use the enhanced ATI drivers due to a media error
in the Windows installation that wiped out the enhanced mode driver. Also,
on an interesting note, when I attempt to install OS/2 2.1, I get to the
point where OS/2 will attempt to boot into the system defaults panel. But
instead of seeing the system defaults panel, the Nanao shuts itself off,
complaining that it isn't receiving any signal. I of course followed TFM,
where IBM has special instructions for booting OS/2 with the ATI G.U.P.
card.
The only problem I get when performing the self tests on the ATI card is a
DAC failure. I've never had this problem before on other ATI cards, so I'm
going to swap it out with an ATI card in one of my Cobra machines that I
know works before I declare the Evo V unusable under NS/I for my purposes.
If anyone who has successfully booted NS/I in 16-bit color on the Evo V
would be kind enough to share his or her experiences, I would appreciate
it most greatly. I'd hate to have to recommend one fewer Pentium machine.
Kris Magnusson
Alpine Computing MicroAge
Advanced Information Systems
(a NEXTSTEP- and Unix-only division of Alpine)
801/268-8877
--
Yan Fang-Magnusson <yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dirk@incom.de (Dirk Koeppen)
Subject: Re: will NeXT cdrom drive work as a boot device on a sun?
Message-ID: <1993Sep6.072917.1828@dksoft.incom.de>
Sender: news@dksoft.incom.de (Owner of the news stuff)
Organization: Dirk Koeppen EDV-Beratung, D-63073 Offenbach, Germany
References: <1993Sep3.230632.924@nightfly.uucp>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 07:29:17 GMT
Matt Emerson writes
> can one boot a sun sparc 1+ using a NeXT cdrom drive?
>
NO !
Because the Sony has 2048 bytes/sectors and the Sun can only use 512
bytes/sector. I replaced the NeXT Sony CDROMs firmware ROM with the
one of a Sun Sony drive.
It now works with the Sun and the NeXT.
ciao,
dirk
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From: dirk@incom.de (Dirk Koeppen)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features
Message-ID: <1993Sep6.073841.2059@dksoft.incom.de>
Sender: news@dksoft.incom.de (Owner of the news stuff)
Organization: Dirk Koeppen EDV-Beratung, D-63073 Offenbach, Germany
References: <267njs$ec7@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 07:38:41 GMT
Ross Garrett Cutler writes
> : The ATI GUP can only accept 2MB of VRAM, therefore you will not see
> : 1280x1024 resolution in 16-bit. This requires a card with 4MB of VRAM.
>
> 1280x1024*2 = 2.5MB.
Maybe I am wrong but isn't the alpha channel included in the 16 bit color ?
So if we have 4 bit alpha, and 12 bit RGB the calculation should be:
1280x1024 * 1.5 = 1920KB
That would fit because the alpha is not stored in VRAM.
ciao,
dirk
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: dnichols@d-and-d.com (DoN. Nichols)
Subject: Re: will NeXT cdrom drive work as a boot device on a sun?
Message-ID: <1993Sep6.170648.9262@d-and-d.com>
Sender: usenet@d-and-d.com (Usenet)
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References: <1993Sep3.230632.924@nightfly.uucp> <26fb8e$6ks@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 17:06:48 GMT
In article <26fb8e$6ks@beta.qmw.ac.uk> j.hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1993Sep3.230632.924@nightfly.uucp> matt@nightfly.uucp (Matt
>Emerson) writes:
>> can one boot a sun sparc 1+ using a NeXT cdrom drive?
[ ... ]
>I haven't been able able to do so but I'd like to know if it's
>possible.
>
>'probe-scsi' in 'new command' mode from the monitor PROM reveals
>that the sytem has picked it up. However, with the Solaris 1.1 CD
>inserted, 'b (0,6,2)' results in something like:
>
> Bad magic in disk label, disk unreadable
>
>You'd imagine it should be possible since it's actually just a
>SONY CDU-541 or something.
The Sony supplied by Sun has custom firmware to make the default
sector size 512 bytes. The default for a CD-ROM is otherwise 2048 bytes.
If the CD-ROM is connected at boot time, the kernel will detect it and issue
the appropriate SCSI command(s) to set the sector size to 512 - *TILL THE
DRIVE IS TURNED OFF*. Thus, if you boot from the hard drive, and keep the
CD-ROM powered up full time, it will work for normal access from within the
booted os. (My experience here was with SunOs 4.1.1). However, it can't
*boot* from one which is not defaulting to 512 bytes.
You might be able to boot from one mounted on another machine
accessed via the net, however.
Good Luck
DoN.
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From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: will NeXT cdrom drive work as a boot device on a sun?
Date: 6 Sep 1993 21:01:50 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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References: <26fb8e$6ks@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
hibbitt@strings1.ph.qmw.ac.uk (John Hibbitt) writes:
> matt@nightfly.uucp (Matt Emerson) writes:
> > can one boot a sun sparc 1+ using a NeXT cdrom drive?
> >
> > -matt
> > --
> > Matt Emerson nightfly!matt@fmsystm.ncoast.org
> > 412 E. Homestead St. / Medina, OH 44256-1763
>
> I haven't been able able to do so but I'd like to know if it's
> possible.
>
> 'probe-scsi' in 'new command' mode from the monitor PROM reveals
> that the sytem has picked it up. However, with the Solaris 1.1 CD
> inserted, 'b (0,6,2)' results in something like:
>
> Bad magic in disk label, disk unreadable
>
> You'd imagine it should be possible since it's actually just a
> SONY CDU-541 or something.
You probably can't use it as a bootup device without changing the ROM's in
the drive. Sun wants CD-ROM drives to have 256-byte sectors (or something
like that), while the NeXT CD-ROM drive (and most PC and Mac CD-ROM drives)
want to talk in 2048 byte sectors.
[those specific numbers might be wrong, but the description of the problem
is generally correct]
I know one of my friends got my NeXT CD-ROM drive and my Apple CD300 working
on his Sparc 10 by patching something in the kernel. However, that wouldn't
be an option for you if the kernel you're getting is on the CD-ROM, so you
probably can't use the CD-ROM drive as a *boot* drive without getting a
different set of ROMs in the CD-ROM drive.
--
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: davida@guinness.huma.yorku.ca (David Aspinall)
Subject: Re: NeXT crashing at random times. Any ideas?
Message-ID: <CCyJt0.55M@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University, Humanities Department
References: <OLEG.93Aug31171720@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 00:24:35 GMT
oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (Oleg Kibirev) writes:
: In article oleg@gd.cs.CSUFresno.EDU (I) write:
: ...
: Sorry for replying to myself, but I think I should add more information. I
: don't think the HD crashed, because dd bs=8192 </dev/rsd0a >/dev/null
: completes without errors or retries. Someone here suggested that the
: problem is related to temperature, byt crashes happen 24 hours a day,
: even at 5am when the room is reasonably cool - yup, even in Fresno.
:
:
: --
:
: Oleg
Hmmm, how do you feel about reinstalling... as in wipe the HD and boot
from the CD? With this kind of problem I'm sure you made BACKUP's your
number 1 priority.. RIGHT! AT any rate, if it is currupted data on your
HD, then a reinstall -might- fix it. If it is a hardware problem then you
are at least no worse off :)
David
Remember: backups are our friends.
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NeXTMail: dave@ccs.yorku.ca | rich than stupid
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From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problems with ALR...Surprising? Not!
Date: 7 Sep 1993 00:32:27 GMT
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- PUBLIC ACCESS UNIX
Message-ID: <26gkqr$ln9@inxs.concert.net>
Just a few unkind words about the ALR systems as a whole (yes, I will
stereotype in this instance).
Having sold microcomputers first PCs (1st and 2nd tier products) and then
migrating to Macintosh and then to NeXT, I feel that I've had enough
experience with a lot of mass-produced hardware to know what might give
you trouble and what might not.
ALR for many years has low-balled most other PCs when it comes to cost
and sometimes features, however, when it has come to delivering a
consistent, quality product - ALR has most of the time, fallen short.
From time to time ALRs most ballyhoed (spelling) machines have had trouble
running DOS/Novell - something most of their machines are certified for -
let alone NeXTSTEP. Consistency is very important as far as internal parts
go as most of us who are installing NSFIP on hardware as finding out.
ALR at one time would switch motherboards/specifications on systems without
telling there resellers (which is why I could never recommend them).
Why else would the largest computer distributor in the world have dropped
them?
When it comes right down to it, a question you have to ask is:
If IBM, Compaq, NEC, Intel, DEC could build such a powerhouse, feature-
filled system and sell it at the price ALR is - don't you think they would.
If any reseller could get it to run - Kris could - if it were possible.
Dave Briggman
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 6 Sep 1993 21:14:59 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <26gnag$1f2@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong
elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific
questions about NeXT's implementation or porting
issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups
(comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript,
comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that
may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU
Minor editing: Scott Anguish
Additions from: Greg Anderson (greg@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (michael@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: lbotez@netcom.com (Lynda Botez)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP/FIP & i860
Message-ID: <lbotezCCyqF3.3L3@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <26aljv$d80@bradley.bradley.edu>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 02:47:26 GMT
There's a new issue of Mondo out? Great!
BTW, I read on the "Wired" feed that Wired will be going monthly...
just in case any of you propeller heads out there were interested.
<grin>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: matt@nightfly.uucp (Matt Emerson)
Subject: booting from non-sun cdrom drives
Message-ID: <1993Sep7.022743.807@nightfly.uucp>
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Matt's computer in Medina, Ohio
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 02:27:43 GMT
i posted a few days ago asking whether one could boot a sun
from a NeXT cdrom drive. several postings reported that
the answer is no. the sun cdrom drive has firmware which
causes the drives to use 512 byte sectors rather than the
2048 byte sectors which the NeXT cdrom drive uses by default.
the sun boot prom requires 512 byte sectors.
so, is it possible to obtain firmware to convert the NeXT
drive to 512 byte sectors so it can boot a sun?
if not, can i make bootable tapes by using my NeXT to dd
files off the sunos distribution cdrom onto tapes?
failing all that, what (inexpensive) cdrom drives can
boot a sun?
*please* email replies directly to me, and i'll summarize.
-matt
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412 E. Homestead St. / Medina, OH 44256-1763 / voice: +1 (216) 722-2077
From: kdae1372@servus08.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Ernst Willand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Kernel Trap NSFIP can not recognize Ram, Please HELP
Date: 7 Sep 1993 08:12:17 GMT
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Uni Stuttgart
Message-ID: <26hfp1$19f2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Hello,
I'm trying to install NeXTSTEP for Intel on:
ASUS-EISA-Local board 486 SV1 (16MB Ram, 486DX2-66)
DPT 2022/95 SCSII Controler (no CACHE, floppy disabled)
Fiutsu 1GB SCSII Hard-disk (unit 0)
Texel CD-Rom (unit 1)
ATI-ULTRA VLB
with no success!!
NeXTSTEP can not recognize that 16 MB Ram is installed on the motherboard.
(4 times 4Mb-simms, bank 0 is full) The EISA configuration is set properly
to 16 Mb, but it seems to have no influence setting it to other values.
I allready changed the motherboard to a new one of the same type,
changed the simms and put 32 Mb Ram on the board (8 X 4Mb-simms)
but always got the same boot up result:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
NeXT boot1f v1.17
........................
>> NeXTSTEP 486 boot v1.17
>> 638 conventional / 15360 extended memory <== look here
Type ? for information about advanced startup options (if 32 Mb
it is
boot: recognized)
reading system config .... instance0.table
loading mach kernel
..+++++++++++++.+.+..
NeXTMach 3.1: thu Apr 23.44.40 PDT 1993; root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk_149.22.3.
obj~2/REALEASE_I386
Physical memory = 32.00 megabytes <== !!!!!!!!!!
using 81 buffers containing 0.63 megabytes of memory <== and look here!!
available memory=28.92 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = e76 same for 16/32Mb
CPU: EISA id 06754901
slot 2: EISA id 1214a410
Warning: Using internal backup device configuration tables
PCPointer probe: mouseInit failure
Registering: PCKeyboard0
Registering: PCPointer0
Resetting SCSII Bus ...
Registering: fc0
Registering: fd0
Registering: fd0a
class 'SMC16' not linked into application
configureDriver: Couldn't find class named 'SMC16'
class 'EtherEspress16' not linked into application
configureDriver: Couldn't find class named 'EtherExpress16'
Registering: VGADisplay0
Registering: event0
Registering: kmDevice0
Resetting SCSI Bus
EATA Controler at irq 15
Registering sc0
Kernel Trap
unexpected Kernel Trap d eip 102840
Rais RDP exception 2 code d subcode 2120000
Waiting for RDP connection (type 'c' to continue)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
typing 'c' doesn't help.
Is there anyone around with similar problems or could someone
help me in solving this Problem? (PLEASE)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
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-------------------------- -------- /////////// ----------
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From: bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CDC Wren V specs?
Message-ID: <1993Sep7.154702.12179@cs.wisc.edu>
Date: 7 Sep 93 15:47:02 GMT
Sender: news@cs.wisc.edu (The News)
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
I have a CDC WREN V (573 MB formatted) in an NeXTcube I bought used.
Unfortunately I have no manual or anything for it. Recently, I needed
to change the SCSI id# and had no idea what jumpers went where.
Does anybody out there have one of these and would be willing to photocopy
the manual for me (I'll pay for it). Also, if you do have a WREN V, is it
possible to reformat it to get more than 573MB? I thought its spec's are
660MB unformatted and 90MB seems a lot to lose in the formatting process.
Thanks,
- Gareth
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 32bit Graphics on Intel
Message-ID: <Sep.7.11.42.14.1993.13341@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 7 Sep 93 15:42:15 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
A scary thought considering how pathetic my 16bit VESA ATI is, but I want my white box to be more like my ND black box.
I know that next is planning to support some S3928 compatible cards with 4megs, which is a good start and should do 32bit at the native 1180X832 next resolution. But I want BIGGER!!! I have a monitor that will do up to 1600X1200 and I want to use all of those pixels at 32bits and that will take 8meg VRAM. 1280X1024 would be nice too and that will take at least 5 or 6 megs of VRAM. So are there any cards that can do this?
I heard some really nice things about the Matrox MGA Impression video card. I guess it has at least 4meg VRAM, does anyone know if it can handle more. Also I would be afraid that the S3 cards would be slow like the ATI is (even more so with the bigger bits per pixel, and more pixels). I know that the Matrox board has a 64bit CPU co-processor that should make it darn fast!!! (Actually this card sounds a lot like the ND). I wonder if NEXT is planning on supporting this card or any card that will do 1600
X1200 at 32bits? (My 21" monitor is dying to use its full potential :)
Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 486 MotherBoard that NSi works on...
Message-ID: <Sep.7.11.49.28.1993.13805@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 7 Sep 93 15:49:28 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi, just thought I would share some info...
The NICE Super EISA Rev 1 motherboard will run NSi (with all the right peripherals just fine).
It comes with 256k cache (supports up to 1 meg cache).
1 VESA LB Slot
7 EISA Slots
16 Simm socket (which is awsome-uses 30pin simms)
It will take all kinds of 486's at different speeds
Has a Ziff socket so its pentium ready
All in all a pretty nice board made by a 'NICE' :) company in the USA.
I got this puppy for $399.00 from AGAMMA inc. You can call them at:
818 891-6710. (that 399 is without CPU-my stupid HINT MB dont work so I already got the CPU).
Hope that helps some one out there--Since NeXT only has a list of supported systems it dont help me as much as a list of supported MB's.
Later, John
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 486 MotherBoard that NSi works on...
Date: 7 Sep 1993 16:29:15 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <26icsr$jej@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <Sep.7.11.49.28.1993.13805@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <Sep.7.11.49.28.1993.13805@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>Hi, just thought I would share some info...
>
>The NICE Super EISA Rev 1 motherboard will run NSi (with all the right peripherals just fine).
>It comes with 256k cache (supports up to 1 meg cache).
> 1 VESA LB Slot
> 7 EISA Slots
> 16 Simm socket (which is awsome-uses 30pin simms)
> It will take all kinds of 486's at different speeds
> Has a Ziff socket so its pentium ready
>
>All in all a pretty nice board made by a 'NICE' :) company in the USA.
>I got this puppy for $399.00 from AGAMMA inc. You can call them at:
>818 891-6710. (that 399 is without CPU-my stupid HINT MB dont work so I already got the CPU).
>
>Hope that helps some one out there--Since NeXT only has a list of supported systems it dont help me as much as a list of supported MB's.
>
>Later, John
I have been exploring the possibilities of building my own NS/486 system, and
I looked into the NICE motherboard. I heard that this board's EISA is actually
not true 32 bit, but 24 bit, & gives slower performance when transferring
large amounts of data.
If people are interested, I can be more specific by asking my source EXACTLY
what this means - this was enough for me to stay away from it.
Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mark G. Tacchi)
Subject: Re: Help please: trying to get 3COM Etherlink card to work
Message-ID: <CCzrpv.JoE@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
References: <CHRIST.93Sep3185929@park.bu.edu>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 16:13:06 GMT
In <CHRIST.93Sep3185929@park.bu.edu> christ@park.bu.edu (Christian Mannes) writes:
>Hi,
>I have a problem connecting to ethernet with NS 3.1 on a
>Gateway 2000, using the 3COM Etherlink III 3C509-TP card.
>After following the instructions, and making sure that both
>card and wiring are ok, ping reports 100% packet loss, although
>ifconfig en0 tells me that the network is up and running.
>Other machines can't ping to mine, either.
>According to NeXT customer support, the card should work,
>but they tell me that it's tricky to configure it. Does
>anybody know what it takes to get that thing to connect
>to the ethernet? Is there any tricks I need to know about
>broadcast addresses, ethernet addresses, netmask, and the
>like?
>Any help would be appreciated,
The 3COM Etherlink III 3C509-TP does not work. There is an error in
the compatibility guide.
If you want, use TP use the Intel EtherExpress. It works great.
-Mark
--
Mark G. Tacchi tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca
"Medicine will cure death and government will repeal taxes
before Steve will fail." -G.Kawasaki
From: bond007@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Matt R Burback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Looking for info on DEC MTE/66 using NeXTSTEP...
Date: 7 Sep 1993 17:28:32 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26igc0INN69j@uwm.edu>
Originator: bond007@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Hello,
Does anyone have any comments about DEC's MTE/66 Mini Tower using NS/FIP?
If so, what size hard drive do you recommend? Video? S3-928 with how
much VRAM? Monitor size? Overall speed?
Also, if I install NS/FIP with an Adaptec 1542B ISA Card do I need to
have it present when running NS/FIP?
Thanks,
Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: raul@pencom.com (Raul Alvarez)
Subject: Re: NeXT crashing at random times. Any ideas?
Message-ID: <1993Sep07.192039.8644@pencom.com>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (News system)
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
References: <CCyJt0.55M@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1993 19:20:39 GMT
I had a Next once that was crashing several hour after anyone logged into
it. It took about a month before I realized what was going on. As it
turned out, netinfo was sending stuff to the console, so whenever the
console grew large, and the machine ran out of disk space, it would crash.
A swap file, or console file that grows too large may make the system
panic in what would appear to be random times.
--
Raul Alvarez raul@pencom.com 212-513-7777 NeXT Mail is encouraged
Remember: If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron)
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
Message-ID: <1993Sep07.2@corona.com>
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features
References: <267njs$ec7@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1993 10:17:41 PDT
> Maybe I am wrong but isn't the alpha channel included in the 16 bit color ?
> So if we have 4 bit alpha, and 12 bit RGB the calculation should be:
>
> 1280x1024 * 1.5 = 1920KB
>
> That would fit because the alpha is not stored in VRAM.
The driver for my S3, however, is set up at RGB:555/16. I assume, 5 bits are used for each color, though only 4 may be significant, and the 16th bit is just wasted.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features
Message-ID: <Sep7.201539.40685@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 20:15:39 GMT
References: <267njs$ec7@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1993Sep6.073841.2059@dksoft.incom.de>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
> > > The ATI GUP can only accept 2MB of VRAM, therefore you will
> > > not see 1280x1024 resolution in 16-bit. This requires a card
> > > with 4MB of VRAM.
> > 1280x1024*2 = 2.5MB.
> Maybe I am wrong but isn't the alpha channel included in the 16
> bit color ? So if we have 4 bit alpha, and 12 bit RGB the
> calculation should be:
>
> 1280x1024 * 1.5 = 1920KB
This arguement was true with NeXT hardware which actually
supported a 12 bit-per-pixel graphics mode, but we're talking
about PC hardware which has no such mode. NeXTSTEP uses PC
graphics hardware in 16 bit-per-pixel mode with 4-bit RGB values
mapped into the 16-bit word as 4-4-4 or 5-5-5 RGB leaving the
additional bits unused.
> That would fit because the alpha is not stored in VRAM.
It still won't fit because of the 4 unused bits in each pixel,
but you're quite right otherwise... alpha is used only in
backing-store, not the framebuffer.
--
Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation
Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
| ... couldn't have been ME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu ()
Subject: Re: 486 MotherBoard that NSi works on (MAYBE)...
Message-ID: <1993Sep7.195902.253@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI
References: <Sep.7.11.49.28.1993.13805@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <26icsr$jej@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 19:59:02 GMT
In article <26icsr$jej@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes:
>In article <Sep.7.11.49.28.1993.13805@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>>Hi, just thought I would share some info...
>>
>>The NICE Super EISA Rev 1 motherboard will run NSi (with all the right peripherals just fine).
>>It comes with 256k cache (supports up to 1 meg cache).
>> 1 VESA LB Slot
>> 7 EISA Slots
>> 16 Simm socket (which is awsome-uses 30pin simms)
>> It will take all kinds of 486's at different speeds
>> Has a Ziff socket so its pentium ready
>>
A word of caution. I have this exact board with a DX-2/66 and the following
components:
ATI GUP/VLB, Nanao F550i
Generic ISA IDE Controller and Hard Drive
Adaptek 1542c/NeXT CD-Rom drive
and it will NOT run NeXTSTEP. I tried all the little tricks that I saw
on here (and more) to no avail. As a last resort, I bought a $150 cheapo
ISA/VLB board, popped in my CPU and all other components (read: EXACT same
configuration except the board) and it fired up first try and has been
running ever since. I have also heard from other people who have had troubles
with this board.
[munch]
>I have been exploring the possibilities of building my own NS/486 system, and
>I looked into the NICE motherboard. I heard that this board's EISA is actually
>not true 32 bit, but 24 bit, & gives slower performance when transferring
>large amounts of data.
If I am correct, the board in question (NICE Super-EISA) is indeed a full
32-bit board. The NICE mini-EISA is the one that you might be thinking of.
Someone, correct me if I'm wrong.
At any rate, the NICE Super-EISA is a great board. Hopefully I'll someday
be able to pop mine back in my machine. If some of you are able to get it
to work, more power to you. To those who have yet to get one, I'll
just caution you that it might not work, at least with the configuration
listed above.
- Jim
--
Jim Wissner
ex-Campus Consultant
Grand Valley State University
wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems running NS/I on ALR Evo V Pentium w/ ATI 2 MB
Date: 7 Sep 1993 20:56:18 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <26ishi$bb2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <1993Sep6.160230.29396@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Yan Fang (yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu) wrote:
: I'm evaluating NS/I on an ALR Evolution V for Alpine's NEXTSTEP marketing
: effort. The Evo V came from ALR with the 2 MB ATI VL-Bus card, which has
: never worked properly with NS in 16-bit color, though it works fine in
: default VGA mode.
: The problem is when I boot at any resolution, with any color depth, using
: the ATI drivers included with NS/I, the Workspace comes up with eight
: vertical red stripes, yellow garbage behind the stripes, and with the
: Workspace behind the whole lot in psychedelic patterns. I'm reasonably
: confident there are no sync problems, as the monitor I'm using is a Nanao
: T560i, which should sync at least in 10 x 7 @ 60 hz.
: The machine boots fine in Windows standard mode, with no weird color
: banding, though I can't use the enhanced ATI drivers due to a media error
: in the Windows installation that wiped out the enhanced mode driver. Also,
: on an interesting note, when I attempt to install OS/2 2.1, I get to the
: point where OS/2 will attempt to boot into the system defaults panel. But
: instead of seeing the system defaults panel, the Nanao shuts itself off,
: complaining that it isn't receiving any signal. I of course followed TFM,
: where IBM has special instructions for booting OS/2 with the ATI G.U.P.
: card.
: The only problem I get when performing the self tests on the ATI card is a
: DAC failure. I've never had this problem before on other ATI cards, so I'm
: going to swap it out with an ATI card in one of my Cobra machines that I
: know works before I declare the Evo V unusable under NS/I for my purposes.
: If anyone who has successfully booted NS/I in 16-bit color on the Evo V
: would be kind enough to share his or her experiences, I would appreciate
: it most greatly. I'd hate to have to recommend one fewer Pentium machine.
I have a ALR Evolution V with an ATI GUP VLM (2 MB) video card, and it works
*great*. Sounds like your ATI card is bad. Ross.
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with ALR...Surprising? Not!
Date: 7 Sep 1993 21:08:14 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <26it7u$bb2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <26gkqr$ln9@inxs.concert.net>
David B Briggman -- Personal Account (briggman@rock.concert.net) wrote:
: Just a few unkind words about the ALR systems as a whole (yes, I will
: stereotype in this instance).
[ALR flame deleted]
: When it comes right down to it, a question you have to ask is:
: If IBM, Compaq, NEC, Intel, DEC could build such a powerhouse, feature-
: filled system and sell it at the price ALR is - don't you think they would.
: If any reseller could get it to run - Kris could - if it were possible.
Well, IBM (Ambra) did! Have you seen their Pentium system? ALR is not all
that inexpensive -- it just happens to be one of the first out that is
reasonably priced. That's been true for ALR's products when the 386 and
486 were new too.
BTW, I've used many ALR's for over 4 years now, and have never had any
problems with them (can't say that for the AST's, IBM's, Dell's, and esp.
Gateways I've bought).
I've had NS running on my ALR Evolution V (Pentium) for over a month now,
and I can truly say I'm 100% satisfied with its performance and quality.
: Dave Briggman
: --
: ___________________________________________________________________________
: Advanced Business Systems, 919.682.8553 & 919.682.1126 [fax]
: A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller
: Intel - Digital - Epson - Goldstar - Hewlett Packard
Hmmm, was this an unbiased opinion of ALR :-)
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with ALR...Surprising? Not!
Date: 7 Sep 1993 21:07:43 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26it6v$o6d@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <26gkqr$ln9@inxs.concert.net>
In article <26gkqr$ln9@inxs.concert.net> briggman@rock.concert.net
(David B Briggman -- Personal Account) writes:
> Just a few unkind words about the ALR systems as a whole (yes, I will
> stereotype in this instance).
>
[...]
>
> If any reseller could get it to run - Kris could - if it were possible.
>
Now, I did see more than one report on the Net about successful
NS/I installations on the ALR Evolution V. Someone random at NeXT
happened to be sitting on just such a machine when I called.
All this proves, Kris's aptitude notwithstanding, that it is
actually possible to get it to run. And, judging from benchmarks
published in this group, it actually runs pretty well.
From what Kris reported it seems there is something wrong with his
ATI card. You seem to have had no experience with this particular
machine at all, yet you go ahead and bash the company in public.
Not very nice, I should say. Understandable, though, since the
machines your company carries are slower and more expensive
than theirs.
Andreas Windemuth
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 486 MotherBoard that NSi works on (MAYBE)...
Message-ID: <Sep.7.17.13.12.1993.18417@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 7 Sep 93 21:13:12 GMT
References: <Sep.7.11.49.28.1993.13805@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <26icsr$jej@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1993Sep7.195902.253@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu writes:
>A word of caution. I have this exact board with a DX-2/66 and the following
>components:
>ATI GUP/VLB, Nanao F550i
>Generic ISA IDE Controller and Hard Drive
>Adaptek 1542c/NeXT CD-Rom drive
>and it will NOT run NeXTSTEP. I tried all the little tricks that I saw
>on here (and more) to no avail. As a last resort, I bought a $150 cheapo
>ISA/VLB board, popped in my CPU and all other components (read: EXACT same
>configuration except the board) and it fired up first try and has been
>running ever since. I have also heard from other people who have had troubles
>with this board.
>If I am correct, the board in question (NICE Super-EISA) is indeed a full
>32-bit board. The NICE mini-EISA is the one that you might be thinking of.
>Someone, correct me if I'm wrong.
GOSH this intel hardware thing is a NIGHTMARE >-) Anyway I have this board and one, im pretty sure its pure 32bit. It works for me with NO problems, but I have the following peripherals--so your milage may vary, but with the below listed peripherals Im experiencing no problems.
ATI GUP/VLB, Hitatchi 21" CM2187MU(I dont think the monitor matters)
DPT 2012/90 (I also tried it with the 2012/95 and it works too)
Segate Wren VIII & Quantum 1.2 gig HD's
Toshiba 3401 CDROM drive (NeXT CDROM works too)
Regular Floppy controller
GSI-EHD Model 11 2.88mb "Super Floppy" Controller also works
BTW
The GSI-EHD Model 11 2.88mb "Super Floppy" Controller is the coolest frloppy controller. It can handle 2.88meg floppies and in fact I am using a 2.88 meg floppy drive with it. It handles professional high speed duplicating floppies too. The coolest thing about it is that you can disable and enable floppies without physically unplugging the drives. I can set my A: drive to be the B: drive without changing cables! You do it all in firmware. Also you can tell the controller to use a 2.88 meg floppy as
a 1.44 meg floppy and that way its compatible with NSi; eventually if NEXT supports a 2.88meg floppy you just tell the controller to use the 2.88meg floppy as a 2.88meg floppy.
I think it would be great if there were a list of supported MB's and peripherals somewhere. It would make a lot of people's lives that much more pleasant.
Later, John
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP User Release 3.2 Features
Date: 7 Sep 1993 21:19:54 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <26ittq$bb2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <267njs$ec7@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1993Sep6.072341.8494@cubx.com>
Erik Dasque (ed@cubx.com) wrote:
: In article <267njs$ec7@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross
: Garrett Cutler) writes:
: > Jim Quick (jq@phcs.com) wrote:
: > : In article <CCnqGo.CMy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
: > : The ATI GUP can only accept 2MB of VRAM, therefore you will not see
: > : 1280x1024 resolution in 16-bit. This requires a card with 4MB of
: VRAM.
: >
: > 1280x1024*2 = 2.5MB.
: >
: > Ross.
: Not !
: 1280x1024x2 = .31 Mo (320 Ko) [4 grays]
: 1280x1024x8 = 1.5 Mo [256 grays]
: 1280x1024x16 = 2.5 Mo [4096 colors]
: [
: Color Depth (bits/pixel) / 8 (1 Byte = 8 bit) / 1024 (1 Kb = 1024 bytes)
: / 1024 (1 Mb = 1024 Kb) * xxxx (H res) * yyyy (V res)
: = Memory Size Needed in Mb
: 8/8/1024/1024*1024*1280=1280/1024=1.5
: ]
Obviosly the 2 in my "1280x1024*2" is in bytes. Bit plane notation would have
been "1280x1024x2", right?
Anyway, the only ATI product that has > 2MB RAM is the PCI version of the
GUP, which will be able to do 1280x1024x16. Ross.
From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with ALR...Surprising? Not!
Date: 7 Sep 1993 21:25:33 GMT
Organization: E&S
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26iu8d$4n8@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <26gkqr$ln9@inxs.concert.net>
In article ln9@inxs.concert.net, briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account) writes:
[...munch...]
> ALR for many years has low-balled most other PCs when it comes to cost
> and sometimes features, however, when it has come to delivering a
> consistent, quality product - ALR has most of the time, fallen short.
>
> From time to time ALRs most ballyhoed (spelling) machines have had trouble
> running DOS/Novell - something most of their machines are certified for -
> let alone NeXTSTEP. Consistency is very important as far as internal parts
> go as most of us who are installing NSFIP on hardware as finding out.
> ALR at one time would switch motherboards/specifications on systems without
> telling there resellers (which is why I could never recommend them).
>
> Why else would the largest computer distributor in the world have dropped
> them?
[...munch...]
> If any reseller could get it to run - Kris could - if it were possible.
And Kris did. I just talked to him on the phone.
One (of two) problems was that the ALR was shipped with a faulty ATI GUP
card. Swapping ATI cards didn't immediately cure the problem, however,
since there was a second problem also. Re-seating the memory SIMM's seem
to make it settle down with the 2nd ATI card. The original ATI card
has never worked.
Impressive.
Nevin
From: austin@after.usask.ca (Alvin Austin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: [HELP PLEASE!] Getting Hi-Res Graphics on HP Vectra 486/66N
Date: 7 Sep 1993 21:57:24 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26j044$5r4@tribune.usask.ca>
Keywords: HP Vectra 486/66N
I am having trouble getting more than 640x480 (2-bit) resolution
on our HP Vectra 486/66N PCs running NeXTSTEP 3.1/FIP.
This *is* a supported configuration according to the
compatibility guide, which says that this model should
be capable of 1024x768 in 8-bit grayscale, or 800x600 in
16-bit color.
The machines have been upgraded with the VRAM kit (to 1 MB).
Upgrading the Vectra BIOS from T.04.03 to T.04.04 did not help.
Choosing the S3 driver in the Configuration program and
rebooting causes a barrage of the following messages (which
repeat continuously):
Sep 7 14:34:49 localhost mach: class `frame buffer' not linked into
application<3>
Sep 7 14:34:50 localhost WindowServer[147]: Problem starting the
MegaPixel driver. Continuing.
Sep 7 14:34:51 localhost mach: class `frame buffer' not linked into
application<3>
Sep 7 14:34:51 localhost WindowServer[147]: Problem starting the
CirrusLogicGD542X.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
Sep 7 14:34:51 localhost mach: class `frame buffer' not linked into
application<3>
Sep 7 14:34:51 localhost WindowServer[147]: Problem starting the
TsengLabsET4000.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
Sep 7 14:34:52 localhost mach: class `frame buffer' not linked into
application<3>
Sep 7 14:34:52 localhost WindowServer[147]: Problem starting the
VGA.psdrvr driver. Continuing.
Sep 7 14:34:52 localhost WindowServer[147]: InitDrivers: Help! No
Display drivers loaded!
Sep 7 14:34:53 localhost mach: class `frame buffer' not linked into
application<3>
Sep 7 14:34:53 localhost mach: class `frame buffer' not linked into
application<3>
Does anyone have this configuration WORKING at more than 640x480?
If so, could you email me or post your video settings from the
Configuration program, please??
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Alvin
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Department of Computational Science (NeXTmail ok!)
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From: mriley@turtle.fisher.com (mriley@fisher.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Dell Dimension XPS system problems...
Message-ID: <1993Sep7.144521.553@turtle.fisher.com>
Date: 7 Sep 93 14:45:21 CDT
Organization: Fisher Controls International, Austin, TX
This is more a word of warning than anything else...
(Anybody out there at Dell listening?)
If you're buying a new Dell system, check your system very carefully...
I just purchased a new 486 (Dimension XPS) machine from Dell for home use...
It was shipped to me (you can't pick the systems up any more) and it
did arrive early (a good thing).
Base information on the system: 486/66 (24MB RAM),
Diamond Viper (2MB),
450 IDE,
CD-ROM (no sound card),
DOS/windows...,
mouse, keyboard...
(This system is eventually intended to run Nextstep)
The bad news started when I unpacked it:
- No mouse
- No Docs or Diskettes for:
- Windows
- CD-ROM
- Viper video card
(I checked the Dell Diskette Librarian, but all it has in
it are the mouse drivers, which are great without a mouse)
- Bad diagnostics diskette (incompatible revision)
- Wrong machine manuals
And then when I turned it on:
- 8MB of system RAM is bad
(The memory check at boot counts up to 48MB, starts over at 0 and
then experiences a "failure" at 15380KB)
- The Windows driver needed to play audio CD's on the CD-ROM drive
hasn't been loaded (and no Windows diskettes).
- I've heard that there should be some sort of configuration utility
for the Viper card under windows, but it's not there either.
Any one of these things by itself wouldn't be THAT bad, but put them all
together and if Gateway didn't have a 4 week lead time on their machines,
this one would have already been dropped back off at the Dell building...
I can't believe that this machine was checked over at all, let alone powered
up, before it shipped...
(And if anyone knows the name of someone in Dell Customer Service who this
can go to, please let me know...)
-Mike
--
Michael Riley (512) 832-3347
Fisher-Rosemount Systems Division 8301 Cameron Rd. -- MD2
mriley@fisher.com Austin, TX 78753
From: austin@after.usask.ca (Alvin Austin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ==> NEW SERIAL PORT DRIVERS RELEASED!!
Date: 7 Sep 1993 22:35:19 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26j2b7$796@tribune.usask.ca>
I just noticed on FTP.NEXT.COM that Update 1 of the serial
port drivers for NeXTSTEP/FIP have been released.
From the master index...
* SerialPortDriver.22106.1 93-09-07
1327 SerialPortDriver.pkg 93-09-07
1326 SerialPortDriver.ReadMe 93-09-07
The dates within the ReadMe file is 93-09-03 ...
These files are located in the directory:
/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers/SerialPortDriver.22106.1
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(Mail) 1C101 Engineering Building Office: 145.1 Arts Building
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From: tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mark G. Tacchi)
Subject: Re: Probably an FAQ,No Recycler On 2nd HD?
Message-ID: <CD08Ko.4xr@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
References: <268buv$g6e@spool.mu.edu>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 22:17:11 GMT
In <268buv$g6e@spool.mu.edu> ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth) writes:
>Hello,
>This is probably an FAQ, but what do I need to do to an initialized
>second SCSI HD on 3.0 to get a recycler?
>Thanks,
>Alec
In order to have recycler on an external disk, you must have a .NextTrash directory at the mount point for the drive. As an example, here is how you would create a recycler for an external disk mounted as /archive (issue the following commands as root in a Terminal window):
localhost# cd /archive
localhost# df .
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/sd2b 216311 152584 42095 78% /archive
localhost# mkdir .NextTrash
localhost# chown root.wheel .NextTrash
localhost# chmod 1777 .NextTrash
localhost# ls -ldg .NextTrash
drwxrwxrwt 19 root wheel 1024 Sep 30 10:42 .NextTrash/
After completing these steps, you'll need to reboot the system for the new recycler to be properly recognized.
-Mark
--
Mark G. Tacchi tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca
"Medicine will cure death and government will repeal taxes
before Steve will fail." -G.Kawasaki
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Serial Port Driver for NEXTSTEP (Product Available)
Date: 7 Sep 1993 18:16:39 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9309072235.AA05659@seawolf.next.com>
Hello,
The NEXTSTEP 3.1 Intel Serial Port Driver is now available from
NeXTanswers. The serial driver is available via anonymous ftp from
ftp.next.com under the file names:
/pub/NeXTanswers/CompressedFiles/Drivers/
1326_SerialPortDriver.ReadMe.compressed
and 1327_SerialPortDriver.pkg.compressed
To retrieve the files via email, send an email message to
"nextanswers@next.com" with the subject of "1326 1327".
Conrad Geiger
NeXT
From: shiac@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help! FAQ? System won't boot!!
Date: 7 Sep 1993 23:20:05 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Message-ID: <00972334.8282F0C0@vms.csd.mu.edu>
Hi,
Sorry if this is a FAQ. My one month old NEXT won't boot. During
the start procedure the system keep give me the repeated "boot_rc" text.
An manual boot using ROM setup won't help. I am new to this machine, please
help. If this is a FAQ, please response to the email address:
shiac@vms.csd.mu.edu
Thanks in advance!! -C.Y. Shia-¯õ
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From: eric_t@cs.uiuc.edu (Eric de_la_Tribouille)
Subject: Re: Problems running NS/I on ALR Evo V Pentium w/ ATI 2 MB
Message-ID: <CD0BtJ.25J@cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
References: <26ishi$bb2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 23:27:18 GMT
In article <26ishi$bb2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett
Cutler) writes:
> Yan Fang (yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu) wrote:
> : I'm evaluating NS/I on an ALR Evolution V for Alpine's NEXTSTEP marketing
> : effort. The Evo V came from ALR with the 2 MB ATI VL-Bus card, which has
> : never worked properly with NS in 16-bit color, though it works fine in
> : default VGA mode.
>
[...]
>
> I have a ALR Evolution V with an ATI GUP VLM (2 MB) video card, and it works
> *great*. Sounds like your ATI card is bad. Ross.
Who has an ALR Evolution VQ ?
- Eric
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From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall)
Subject: Original Printer
Message-ID: <1993Sep7.220833.1351@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 22:08:33 GMT
Hi,
We purchased one of the first Cube packages several years ago and are now
having problems with the printer. The last paper rollers do not bind
enough on the paper sufficiently such that the last few inches of a
printed page remain in the printer, i.e. jammed.
Does anyone have any suggestions from experience, e.g. new springs, new
rollers, ship it for repair? We do have an able electronics technician on
site albeit with not much NeXT experience and wonder if a rebuild kit may
be purchased from somewhere for this printer that he could use.
Thanks for your advice,
Brendan McDougall
Physics Dept.
Brandeis University
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Looking for info on DEC MTE/66 using NeXTSTEP...
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.005926.22370@cs.yale.edu>
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 00:59:26 GMT
In article <26igc0INN69j@uwm.edu> bond007@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Matt R Burback)
writes:
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone have any comments about DEC's MTE/66 Mini Tower using NS/FIP?
> If so, what size hard drive do you recommend? Video? S3-928 with how
> much VRAM? Monitor size? Overall speed?
I've seen one post from someone running NEXTSTEP on this box. He had the
S3-928 card, which release 3.1 only supports for 1024x768x8-bit
grayscale. NeXT claims improved video drivers with release 3.2, as
well as support for the EISA 1740 SCSI board DEC lists as an option for
these systems.
We've ordered a system with S3-928 card and 1740 card, so we'll have to
wait for 3.2 to try it out.
DEC has a 16" Sony display for about $1K that might be nice if you have to
stick to one vendor source.
> Also, if I install NS/FIP with an Adaptec 1542B ISA Card do I need to
> have it present when running NS/FIP?
Only if you have a SCSI disk ;-)
--
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Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Remote <Terminal> Access
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 93 18:15:46 -0600
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2956525874.1.p00378@psilink.com>
I am trying to connect a WYSE 60 terminal to my NeXTStation Mono. I
only want to access the <Terminal> prompt for code review and debugging
while my NeXT is busy working with someone else. Does anyone have any ideas?
I am simply trying to find something to do with my WYSE 60s since my
migration to NeXTStep. Don't fire on me because I'm trying to
interface via the WYSE thank you.
James
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Manually Setting SCSI IDs on Factory 105MB HDs
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 93 18:24:25 -0600
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2956526279.2.p00378@psilink.com>
I've recently swapped out my internal 105MB HD from my NeXTStation Mono and
dropped in a Fujitsu M2624T 525MB HD. Everything's great!
However, I don't want to toast my 105MB drive and since it was my boot
drive, I know it was set at SCSI ID=0. I'd like to use it as an
external drive, but I can't seem to figure out how to set the SCSI ID
while the drive is sitting in my hand. Can anyone help me?! The
external case I'm using can accomodate a SCSI ID switch but it doesn't
seem as if this 105MB HD can. Does anyone have any suggestions, solutions.
James
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From: mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press)
Subject: How to add serial ports?
Message-ID: <mrossCD0MKo.AE7@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 03:19:36 GMT
Is the only solution to adding serial ports to a NeXTcube to add another
mother board?
Does anyone have experience using two CPUs? How does one deal with this
and is the configuration complicated?
Thanks!
--
--------------
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Antigone Press mross@netcom.com
San Francisco CA FAX +1.415.431.3650
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: How to add serial ports?
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.042844.23837@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <mrossCD0MKo.AE7@netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 04:28:44 GMT
In article <mrossCD0MKo.AE7@netcom.com> mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press)
writes:
>
> Is the only solution to adding serial ports to a NeXTcube to add another
> mother board?
>
> Does anyone have experience using two CPUs? How does one deal with this
> and is the configuration complicated?
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M16. How may I attach more than two serial ports to the NeXT?
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: M16. How may I attach more than two serial ports to the NeXT?
TTYDSP From Yrrid converts the DSP port into an additional serial port.
Yrrid Incorporated
507 Monroe St.
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
Voice: 919-968-7858
Fax: 919-968-7856
Email: yrrid@world.std.com
Unitnet has a device, the SLAT-1, that will connect to the scsi bus.
Uninet Perhipherals, Inc.
Voice: 714-546-1100
sales@cpd.com
[Jacob Gore adds:]
Also, one can use an IP terminal server. In a non-Internet environment,
inexpensive terminal servers, which don't control access to the
network securely, can be used. If your network is an Internet subnet,
you must use a terminal server that controls either: (1) who can log into
the terminal server, or (2) which machines the terminal server will
access. These tend to be more expensive (around $250/port, but in
8-port increments), but it may be quite economical means of sharing
ports among many NeXTs (or other computers) on the network.
[Eric P. Scott adds:]
Particularly if one has a NeXT network, an Ethernet terminal server may
be the way to go. One that supports Linemode Telnet (such as the Xylogics
Annex III) will offer the best performance.
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From: (slugg jello)
Subject: NSFIP with the Creative Labs ASP 16
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.043307.13169@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com>
Sender: slugg@mouthers.nwnexus.wa.com
Organization: Mouthing Flowers
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 04:33:07 GMT
Anyone ever try running NSFIP with the Creative Labs ASP 16 sound board?
Thanks.
--
Doug Kent
Mouthing Flowers, Inc.
slugg@mouthers.wa.com
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From: mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press)
Subject: What to do with a second mother board?
Message-ID: <mrossCD12KJ.Bqr@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 09:05:07 GMT
Forgive if a FAQ (although i looked!)...
How does a cube function with a second motherboard? How is it addressed?
How are the serial ports configured to be accessible?
Thanks!
--
--------------
Michael Ross mross@antigone.com (preferred)
Antigone Press mross@netcom.com
San Francisco CA FAX +1.415.431.3650
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cannon Color Laser Copiers...Anyone?
Date: 8 Sep 1993 10:41:45 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <26kct9$ckb@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1993Aug16.122230.71259@cc.usu.edu> <1993Aug17.183422.454@dart.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) writes:
>Our printer driver DOTS supports scanning and printing on the Canon CLC 300 and
>500 Color Laser Copiers.
>DOTS uses NEXTSTEP Display PostScript to produce the image on the NeXT machine
>and sends it thru SCSI to the Canon IPU, which functions as an interface to the
>Copier.
There are other drivers as well. Better ones, too. But with sucky merketing,
though that will change soon. Look for an announcement.
>Canon offers different sorts of IPUs. Some of those have PostScript build in.
>But those are very expensive. With DOTS producing the PostScript image on the
>NeXT, you can save a lot of money and stick with the more affordable IPU-10,
>which is a non-PostScript IPU.
Shows you how much he knows.
The IPU-10 is MORE expensive than Canon's PS-IPU. However, you get MUCH better
print quality from it.
( Hi Wilfried, check your facts, and once you have them, don't keep
spreading misinformation. )
>NOTE: If you want to use an Intel-Hardware, you must buy a separate PostScript
>output license from NeXT or Adobe.
You will have to get it from Adobe, because NeXT can only sell licenses
for lower cost equipment.
However, I have never heard of end users obtaining licenses from Adobe.
The manufacturer is resposible for that. Getting software that violates
Adobe licenses sounds like a bad idea, since about half the company is
their legal department. Heck, they used to have people scanning all
advertisement copy for the use of the word "PostScript" and making
unfriendly calls afterwards, before noticing that they were being
silly.
Marcel
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From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler)
Subject: Compaq Deskpro 66M: is it a winner for NS/FIP?
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 10:23:11 GMT
Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Sender: news@tkymail.sps.mot.com
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.102311.14623@tkymail.sps.mot.com>
I'd like to hear if Compaq Deskpro 66M users/owners are happy with their
hardware performance. I recall that the Pentium version of this box did not get a full thumbs-up from some of our more distinguished net.experts, and was curious to hear if the 486 version would be a liveable compromise on the price/performance scale... I seem to recall that Qvision was slo
w, although it seems that this would not be the only video option (I think).
Please email/NeXTmail to me and I will follow up here.
Thanks in advance...
---
Michael Shaler
Tokyo Design Center
Nippon Motorola Ltd.
+813 3280 8245 voice
+813 3440 0033 fax
mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail]
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with ALR...Surprising? Not!
Date: 8 Sep 1993 11:33:35 GMT
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- PUBLIC ACCESS UNIX
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While Andreas, has sufficiently busted my chops, my earlier posting reflects
experience with ALR from back in the late 1980s and from Articles read in PC
Magazine and Byte within the past year or two.
Another complaint was that the products ABS carries were all more expensive
that the Evolution VQ, which simply isn't true, however, because it has been
a number of years since I personally have played with an ALR, I will attempt
to take advantage of a newly authorized reseller on the net and acquire one
from him <<Sam Goldberger, sphere@netcom.com>>.
Because I do resell hardware, I will refrain from commenting on other
vendor's platforms in the future.
Sorry for any feathers ruffled.
Dave Briggman
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From: bjanzen@lexmark.com
Subject: Intel TokenExpress
Message-ID: <16C4210E1E.BJANZEN@lexmark.com>
Sender: usenet@lexmark.com (News Dude)
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 00:12:30 GMT
Is the driver written? Is anyone using it?
bjanzen@lexmark.com
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From: bjanzen@lexmark.com
Subject: IBM ValuePoint
Message-ID: <16C4210F07.BJANZEN@lexmark.com>
Sender: usenet@lexmark.com (News Dude)
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 00:16:23 GMT
Is anyone running NEXTSTEP on ValuePoints? My understanding as of today is
that the IDE (hence the hard drive and floppy) wont work, and the S3 driver
will be here shortly? Is any one with more pull than me trying to wake up
1-800-IBM-2YOU? Thanks.
bjanzen@lexmark.com
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From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Subject: Re: Problems running NS/I on ALR Evo V Pentium w/ ATI 2 MB
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.144700.22317@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
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References: <1993Sep6.160230.29396@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <26ishi$bb2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 93 14:47:00 GMT
For an eval machine, this Evolution V was poorly chosen by ALR.
The ALR is suffering from a combination of extreme quality control
problems, including an ATI card with a bad DAC, that not only prevented
NS/I from launching in 16-bit color but also prevented OS/2 and Windows
enhanced mode from running correctly. My service technicians and I believe
that niggling intermittent problems stem from a hairline fracture in the
motherboard.
I swapped ATI cards from a Cobra machine I was configuring and installed
it in the ALR. But the machine wouldn't boot up afterward with or without
the ATI card, the Adaptec card, the ProAudioSpectrum, etc. After
reseating the RAM, making sure the mboard was seated correctly, etc., we
got the thing to fire up in 16-bit color. But it only stayed up for five
minutes or so (long enough for my colleagues to oooh and aah over 3View's
near-instantaneous rendering) and then crashed. The machine failed to boot
until we re-reseated the RAM, etc.
I'm going to call this a draw and get ALR to send me another machine. If
the next one exhibits the same or related behavior I will not recommend
the sale of ALR machines to clients.
Kris Magnusson
Alpine Computing MicroAge
Advanced Information Systems
(NeXT is doing so well they gave me my own division)
In article <26ishi$bb2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler) writes:
>Yan Fang (yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu) wrote:
>: I'm evaluating NS/I on an ALR Evolution V for Alpine's NEXTSTEP marketing
>: effort. The Evo V came from ALR with the 2 MB ATI VL-Bus card, which has
>: never worked properly with NS in 16-bit color, though it works fine in
>: default VGA mode.
>
>: The problem is when I boot at any resolution, with any color depth, using
>: the ATI drivers included with NS/I, the Workspace comes up with eight
>: vertical red stripes, yellow garbage behind the stripes, and with the
>: Workspace behind the whole lot in psychedelic patterns. I'm reasonably
>: confident there are no sync problems, as the monitor I'm using is a Nanao
>: T560i, which should sync at least in 10 x 7 @ 60 hz.
>
>: The machine boots fine in Windows standard mode, with no weird color
>: banding, though I can't use the enhanced ATI drivers due to a media error
>: in the Windows installation that wiped out the enhanced mode driver. Also,
>: on an interesting note, when I attempt to install OS/2 2.1, I get to the
>: point where OS/2 will attempt to boot into the system defaults panel. But
>: instead of seeing the system defaults panel, the Nanao shuts itself off,
>: complaining that it isn't receiving any signal. I of course followed TFM,
>: where IBM has special instructions for booting OS/2 with the ATI G.U.P.
>: card.
>
>: The only problem I get when performing the self tests on the ATI card is a
>: DAC failure. I've never had this problem before on other ATI cards, so I'm
>: going to swap it out with an ATI card in one of my Cobra machines that I
>: know works before I declare the Evo V unusable under NS/I for my purposes.
>
>: If anyone who has successfully booted NS/I in 16-bit color on the Evo V
>: would be kind enough to share his or her experiences, I would appreciate
>: it most greatly. I'd hate to have to recommend one fewer Pentium machine.
>
>I have a ALR Evolution V with an ATI GUP VLM (2 MB) video card, and it works
>*great*. Sounds like your ATI card is bad. Ross.
>
--
Yan Fang-Magnusson <yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu>
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From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with ALR... Not!
Date: 8 Sep 1993 15:38:11 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26ku93$714@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <26kfug$o5l@inxs.concert.net>
In article <26kfug$o5l@inxs.concert.net> briggman@rock.concert.net
(David B Briggman -- Personal Account) writes:
> Another complaint was that the products ABS carries were all more expensive
> that the Evolution VQ, which simply isn't true,
That was V, not VQ, and that probably makes the statement
very close to true. The VQ could be well worth the extra
money, though. Can anyone contribute
experience on the
difference? I believe a benchmark was posted for the
ALR Evolution V, does anyone have an ALR Evolution VQ?
Andreas Windemuth
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From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Subject: Re: Problems with ALR...Surprising? Not!
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.150743.22826@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Sender: news@fcom.cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
References: <26gkqr$ln9@inxs.concert.net> <26iu8d$4n8@cnn.sim.es.com> <26kfug$o5l@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 93 15:07:43 GMT
Actually, Alpine Computing has sold ALR machines for years and had its
share of problems with them as well as problems with every other brand of
computer we sell. Ask me one day about the Quadra 950 we had in the
service department for months. I, however, until I received my evaluation
unit, had never actually played with an ALR. My experience has been poor
due to the most extreme QC problems I have ever seen, but I will not call
it statistically significant until the second (or even third) unit
exhibits similar problems.
The jury's still out on this one, folks. I'll repost when I get my second
machine.
Kris
--
Yan Fang-Magnusson <yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque)
Subject: Re: EtherExpress16 driver: only 8 bit?
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.113036.18037@cubx.com>
Sender: news@cubx.com
Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
References: <20118@news.duke.edu>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 11:30:36 GMT
In article <20118@news.duke.edu> lee@daruma.zoo.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg)
writes:
> I just installed an Intel EtherExpress16 twisted pair network
> card in a Gateway2000 4DX2 66-V. Using Configure.app I set
> the network driver to say:
>
> Port Addresses
> 16 bytes at 0x300
>
> and
>
> IRQ Levels
> 10
>
> But when NS/I 3.1 boots up, it says a couple of times in the
> startup messages:
>
> EtherExpress16 8 bit only
>
> Is this proper?
> Has anyone else had (or NOT had) this experience with the EtherExpress16
> and NS/I 3.1?
> Would there be some problem with the card or the expansion slot that is
> causing it to come up as 8 bit and not 16 bit?
> Is the NS/I driver for the Intel EtherExpress16 only capable of running
> it as 8 bit?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Lee Altenberg
> altenber@acpub.duke.edu
Using your SoftSet program under DOS, you'll need to re-map the cache RAM
to an un-used space. The Intel card seems to have 32 Kb of RAM which is
wrongly mapped by default (your mileage may vary, mine did). Booting with
16 bit ethernet seems to speed things up, a little bit.
Ed
--
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Cub'x Systemes only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease...
ed@cubx.com It all started 2 full back-up ago...
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From: ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque)
Subject: -> OK with 16 Mb, very slow with 32 Mb on my 486 ISA/VLB
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.114852.18318@cubx.com>
Sender: news@cubx.com
Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 11:48:52 GMT
Girls and boys,
I have an ISA/VLB motherboard which runs NS/FIP nicely with 16 Mb of RAM.
It usually gives a 28-32 MIPS performance rating w/ NXBench.
My config is the following :
ATI GUP w/ 2 Mb RAM
Adaptec 1542 B w/ 500 Mb Fujitsu
Intel EtherExpress
Serial Card (w/ UART 16550)
Logitech Bus Mouse
When I add 16 Mb for a total of 32 Mb then it sloooooowwwwwws down to 2-10
MIPS (very Variable). DOS and Windows performance are not affected, only
NS/FIP 3.1 (Probably because DOS is 640k dum and Windows 16 Mb idiot)
I am about to throw the motherboard away and put my 486 DX2/66 on (Yet)
Another ISA/VLB motherboard. So my questions are :
1) Would anybody know what is happening ?
2) and less important : Does anybody have good experience with any
EISA/VLB clone motherboard ?
Thanks in advance,
Ed.
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Cub'x Systemes only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease...
ed@cubx.com It all started 2 full back-up ago...
From: roder@mayo.edu (Mark N. Roder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Faster Serial Ports- Solution?
Date: 8 Sep 1993 17:08:11 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26l3hr$fmm@fermat.mayo.edu>
Anybody going to dive into DriverKit and see how difficult a
driver for this board would be?
Later
Mark
NeXTMail Roder.Mark@mayo.edu
This is from comp.dcom.isdn.
------------snip--------snip-----------
From: trutter@hayes.com
Subject: Hayes announces Higher Speed Serial port
Date: 8 Sep 93 11:07:36 EDT
For Immediate Release
H-2093+++AT
HAYES PAVES WAY FOR 115.2 KBIT/S AND HIGHER SPEEDS
- - - - - - Introduces New,
Single Port, 16-bit Hayes ESP
Communications Accelerator
ATLANTA, GA, 7 September 1993 -- Hayes Microcomputer
Products, Inc. today announced a single port, 16-bit
Hayes ESP Communications Accelerator which supports
speeds up to 921.2 kbit/s. Hayes will debut this product
at Windows Solutions exhibition in Santa Clara,
California, on 16-18 September 1993 (Booth #909).
Available worldwide this month for US$99 and CDN$125,
Hayes ESP Communications Accelerator Version 2.0 is an
enhanced serial board for IBM PCs and compatibles that
maximizes data transmission speeds and prepares the way
for high-speed modems or ISDN applications. This
half-card board incorporates a dedicated
communications co-processor with built-in automatic
flow control. The board ensures data integrity by
eliminating buffer overrun errors experienced with
even the 16550 UART at speeds of 115.2 kbit/s or higher. To
maximize the PC's performance, Hayes ESP
Communications Accelerator provides dual 1024 byte
send/receive buffers and a 16-bit PC Bus interface. The
product works with most high-speed modems and ISDN
terminal adapters and is fully compatible with Windows
communications software.
"With this version of Hayes ESP Communications
Accelerator, we clear the way for the highest
transmission speeds using technologies such as V.Fast
Class (V.FC) modems and ISDN with data compression,"
said Hayes President Dennis C. Hayes. "With these
advanced transmission speeds, the standard serial port
or even 16550 UARTs are no longer effective."
Hayes ESP Communications Accelerator comes with
communications driver software for Windows 3.0, 3.1 and
Windows for Workgroups, as well as a Windows-based
installation and set-up program for easy configuration
without the need for dip switches. While the ESP board is
designed for speeds up to 921.2 kbit/s, with the current
Windows driver software, users can still reach the high
speeds of 115.2 kbit/s. As communications drivers and
communications software are enhanced to support higher
speeds, owners of Hayes ESP Communications Accelerator
v2.0 can have the added benefit of speeds higher than
115.2 kbit/s.
As part of Hayes continued research and development into
high-speed communications, Hayes developed the Hayes
Communications Bus Interface Controller (COM-bic)
which is a single chip communications co-processor
solution that replaces the majority of the circuitry
required for the first generation Hayes ESP
Communications Accelerator. This single chip solution
supports serial data rates of up to 921.2 kbit/s with two
internal send/ receive buffers of 1024 bytes each. In
addition, a special purpose communications
co-processor manages the buffer, automatic flow
control, and system interface to maximize performance
and prevent data loss due to buffer overflow. Hayes has
incorporated COM-bic on Hayes ESP Communications
Accelerator v2.0 and will make the chip available to
computer manufacturers to integrate into their
mother-boards.
Best known as the leader in microcomputer modems, Hayes
develops, supplies and supports computer
communications equipment and software for personal
computers and computer communications networks. The
company distributes its products in over 60 countries
through a global network of authorized distributors,
dealers, mass merchants, VARs, systems integrators and
original equipment manufacturers.
###
Hayes and ESP are
trademarks of Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: jmbreuer@trek.nbg.sub.org
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Message-ID: <1993Sep7.134921.1503@trek.nbg.sub.org>
Organization: private
References: <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 13:49:21 GMT
chrisl@mindvox.phantom.com (Chris Lesher) writes:
>Having spent more hours than I care to count exposed to the Windows
>environment at work, and through an extended patronage of MindVox which
>seems to be something of a NeXT mecca full of converts and true believers,
>when the time came for me to purchase a new machine this fall for in-house
>evaluation and future planning, I was quite excited by the prospects of
>NeXTSTEP technology.
> After arranging to view some of the NeXT's at Vox I came away with
>a strange feeling that perhaps I should have listened to. I was stunned
>by the user environment and in an office full of machinery the only only
>ones that seemed to have any active use as workstations were two NeXT's,
>and a Super NES ;-). But for the life of me, other than the obvious
>observation that a lot of people smoke pot in a closed room, I was unable
>to figure out what anybody there used the NeXT's for other than $10,000
>paper weights which served as terminals to be hooked through an ethernet
>to the servers, all of which were dull, dreary, with the monitors turned
>off, but every single machine was some kind of Sun. In fact MindVox which
>started on the NeXT had moved away from using them for anything except
>fancy terminals as quickly as they could.
>
> But no..... I listened to the advice of the people hanging around,
>read and re-read the evangelists postings and sunk nearly $10,000 of my
>company's money into a NeXTSTEP eval machine from Dell.
>
> And what I now proudly possess is my very own $10,000 paperweight.
> I plug it into the ethernet, RDP exception #6, the machine hangs every
>time within a matter of hours. I plug in a modem, guess what, oh SORRY,
>the serial port drivers have a few problems. I NEEDED A MACHINE THAT CAN
>COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER MACHINES. A STAND-ALONE SYSTEM IS NEARLY WORTHLESS
>TO ME AND RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE, BECAUSE ANY TIME I TRY TO PLUG IT
>INTO A NETWORK OR CONNECT A MODEM, IT HANGS. *EVERY SINGLE TIME* To
>suggest that the solution is waiting for NS3.2 to arrive in the 3rd
>quarter, or 4th quarter, or whenever it gets here, is absolutely
>preposterous. I have paid for something which does NOT work. For all its
>garbage, Windows DOES work and rarely crashes and right now I'm using a
What exactly does "rarely" for you? Once every half an hour? :-|
I once TRIED to do some "amateur" DTP using Windows (and the two
thousand utilities you need to run it). Oh, no...
>486dx/33 to get my work done, while I look at the NeXT and realize what I
>should have known in the first place. The NeXT is a beautiful
>paper-weight, which is championed by the sort of people who have SGI
>Indigo^2's sitting in their houses because "they're so cool man", have
>wardrobes from Armani, cars from Porsche, and make a living selling ATTITUDE.
>
> In a word, that's the NeXT, because it certainly doesn't do
>anything like FUNCTION as expected. When I brought these problems back to
>the true believers I came away with the tremendous wisdom of "well, I
>dunno, right now I just use kermit on the SGI or tip out" followed by
>"NeXTSTEP is pretty to look at, but ya know, its like whatever, the Apple
>][+ pretty much did everything I wanted a computer to do. It had a
>terminal program called AE pro, and a word processor. Everything else are
>neat toys to play with."
>
> BINGO. So now I'm using Windows. And looking at OS/2.
>
> NeXT, this is RIDICULOUS. Kindly assign one or two persons to
>take the 3 hours needed to fix your serial port and ethernet drivers and
>allow those of us who have invested into what you and your evangelists are
>espousing, to at least make use of what we have purchased. There is no
>way I could ever recommend NeXTSTEP to our purchasing department, I have
>this sinking feeling I'd be left holding the bag, a feeling many people
>who purchased black hardware in 1993 must be very familiar with.
>
> chrisl@phantom.com
Hmmm... maybe those people [NeXT Inc.] should have kept on making the
real thing.
I was quite upset with DOS/Windoze, and finally replaced my
I-Blame-Myself-compatible equipment with a NeXTcube w/ dimension.
And, whoa!, the machine stayed up for one week, two weeks, three
weeks, a month, half a year... and, in fact, is still running and
doing anything I need and want to do.
I do not experience any strange problems with connecting the cube to
about any Ethernet Network or modem, (how else could I write this
letter), and I still have not seen any GUI comparable to NS.
The problem mentioned above comes down to the basic philosophy of
buying computers: Either you try to stay "in fashion" (good luck to
your bank account or wherever you get your money from), or you try and
find a computer that does anything you want it to do with the speed
you need it being done, and do not really need to keep up to date. I,
personally, chose the second option, and I cannot imagine replacing
the Cube with anything else. It does what I want it to do, and it does
not need hours of personal care. Have you tried to configure, say, an
IBM-Comp. to run one of these wonderful memory managers (like QEMM,
which is not bad at all) and something weird like a CD-ROM driver to
have more than 450 KB of base memory free (which Windoze desperatly
needs to run)? Yes, it works, but good luck, take your time, and don't
ever dare to add some more peripherals which need drivers... or take
the time again.
If DOS/Windows does everything you want your computer to do, fine!
I don't try to persuade anyone to turn away from a working equipment.
I just want to tell those people who do want to work with their
computers (instead of doing a full-time-job configuring them) that I
found a solution which works fine for me.
I am not pro-NeXT (well, at least not in the extreme), I just don't like
equipment that does not work, imagine a car sold with the following
instructions:
Yes, the new engine can be put in "enhanced mode", which
gives you some hundred percent more performance, but it
also uses a different kind of fuel, which is very difficult
to get (although it really is not); and the other parts of
the car were not really built to facilitate the engine being
run in enhanced mode. Therefore we recommend you to run your
engine in "compatibility mode".
... that is about the reason why I am "anti-IBM".
Again, this is not meant to be a flame, I would just like to put
things a bit differently:
NeXT did make a mistake, that's right, they moved to unsuitable
hardware for NS and are now (apparently) not able to handle it.
IBM somehow managed to sell its "it-just-might-work...perhaps"-
Computers to about everyone... and now you blame NeXT for not
being able to cope with old-fashioned architecture restrictions.
Just wanted to say that,
Joe
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From: gld@mhoro.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.arch
Subject: Will Canon go PowerPC on their NeXT boxes?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 8 Sep 1993 18:09:15 GMT
Organization: The Bloomingdale Insane Asylum (now Columbia University)
Message-ID: <26l74b$cgk@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
The title says it all: will Canon go PowerPC on their NeXT boxes?
I know that NeXTstep has been ported to Intel, and can't see it
not going that way with the PowerPC. Since Apple will release
Macintoshs with the PowerPC 601 early next year (supposedly), will
Canon hedge their investment in this hardware platform in this way?
Interested in your thoughts ...
gld
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare Montreal Canadiens,
> gld@columbia.EDU 1993 Champions!
> gld@cunixc.BITNET La Coupe Stanley Cup
From: mgrmja@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J. Allard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Manually Setting SCSI IDs on Factory 105MB HDs
Date: 8 Sep 1993 18:48:22 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <26l9dm$lm1@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <2956526279.2.p00378@psilink.com>
In article <2956526279.2.p00378@psilink.com> "James Gaines"
<p00378@psilink.com> writes:
> I've recently swapped out my internal 105MB HD from my NeXTStation Mono
> and dropped in a Fujitsu M2624T 525MB HD. Everything's great!
>
> However, I don't want to toast my 105MB drive and since it was my boot
> drive, I know it was set at SCSI ID=0. I'd like to use it as an
> external drive, but I can't seem to figure out how to set the SCSI ID
> while the drive is sitting in my hand. Can anyone help me?! The
> external case I'm using can accomodate a SCSI ID switch but it doesn't
> seem as if this 105MB HD can. Does anyone have any suggestions,
> solutions.
>
> James
If it was a Quantum 105MB drive, I have one sitting right in front of me (a
Quantum ProDrive LPS). If you turn the drive PC-board-side up, and have the
SCSI/power connectors towards you, the SCSI ID jumpers are in the far lower
right side of the PC board. They are labeled (on my drive) as A0, A1, A2.
These look suitable for one of those external SCSI ID switches.
BTW, I thought NeXT supplied internal hard drives set to SCSI ID 1 so that
you could install an external boot drive without having to crack open the
case (just set the external drive to ID 0). At least every NeXT *I've* ever
cracked open was this way, and that's a lot of NeXTs. :-)
Mike
--
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Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, IN 812-877-8273
E-Mail: <Michael.Allard@rose-hulman.edu> Fax: 812-877-3198
#import <std/disclaimer.h> -- NeXTmail Friendly! -- HAMnet: KA9VDC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: engelsma@birch.gvsu.edu (Ben Engelsma)
Subject: Re: Best (i.e. easiest) CDROM drive for NSFIP installation
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.193013.11560@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University
References: <1993Sep6.125240.25941@vitro.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 19:30:13 GMT
In article <1993Sep6.125240.25941@vitro.com> sib@at-mail-server.vitro.com
writes:
> Well, NSFIP has finally arrived... (Hurray!) What are the Net's
> recommendations for CD-ROM drives to use for installation? Which SCSI
> cards work best? Please post reponses to this group.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
Depends on the system that you are installing on. I installed on
a Gateway 2000 V with no problems using an ADAPTEC 1542C (no soft-
ware required, just bare card) for $210 and a NEC CD-ROM which you
may be able to borrow from someone...
Ben Engelsma
engelsma@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: bruce@phantom.com (Bruce Fancher)
Subject: Accessing a NeXT printer over ethernet?
Message-ID: <1993Sep8.215058.27451@mindvox.phantom.com>
Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com
Organization: Phantom Access Technologies, Inc. / Mindvox
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 21:50:58 GMT
I can't seem to export the NeXT printer to let my SparcStation use
it. The f**king NeXT seems to want a NetInfo network. What can I do?
Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker)
Subject: Cube to Megapixel Cable?
Message-ID: <CD1rvL.M2n@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 18:11:44 GMT
We just had a failure in the cable which connects the cube to the
megapixel monitor in one of our NeXT computers. Does anyone have
a source for these?
Steve
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From: wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: RE: Faster Serial Ports-Solution? <problem msg?>
Date: 8 Sep 1993 22:46:54 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26lncuINNg26@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
I have had a devil of a time reading this message. Every time
I try to open it with NewsGrazer, my modem drops the slip line.
Humm... some control character must have somehow gotten into it.
Anyone else had trouble reading it?
- William Morse
=================================================================
Consult. / ITD Emory Law Student
=================================================================
From: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Accessing a NeXT printer over ethernet?
Date: 8 Sep 93 18:43:11
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <GISLI.93Sep8184311@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <1993Sep8.215058.27451@mindvox.phantom.com>
In-reply-to: bruce@phantom.com's message of Wed, 8 Sep 1993 21:50:58 GMT
>>>>> bruce@phantom.com (Bruce Fancher) writes:
BF> I can't seem to export the NeXT printer to let my SparcStation
BF> use it. The f**king NeXT seems to want a NetInfo network. What
BF> can I do?
My situation is even worse. I occasionally need to print from an
Apollo computer (try exporting a NeXT printer to an Apollo).
With the Apollo in .rhosts on the NeXT I simply type:
cat <filename> | rsh <the NeXT> lpr
from an Apollo prompt. Works great.
Gisli
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Grad Student and a Gentleman
Delenda est Carthago.
University of Michigan
gisli@engin.umich.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Accessing a NeXT printer over ethernet?
Date: 8 Sep 1993 19:05:38 -0400
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <26log2$jgb@seine.cs.umd.edu>
References: <1993Sep8.215058.27451@mindvox.phantom.com>
In article <1993Sep8.215058.27451@mindvox.phantom.com> bruce@phantom.com (Bruce Fancher) writes:
> I can't seem to export the NeXT printer to let my SparcStation use
> it. The f**king NeXT seems to want a NetInfo network. What can I do?
you could start by reading the f**king manual
(the _wonderful_ NeXT wants a netinfo network but can deal with f**king NIS etc)
look in chapter 11, section 1 of the 3.0 sysadmin docs
--
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard,
the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Trinitron (17") and White HW
Date: 8 Sep 1993 23:44:57 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <26lqpp$3oo@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
I think this has been discussed before.
Can the NeXT 17" Trinitron ADB monitor be used with a Mac or
Intel based HW? If so, how?
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
From: jcd@aladdin.aero.org (John C Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printer wont suck paper in
Date: 8 Sep 1993 23:47:01 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Message-ID: <26lqtl$jk6@news.aero.org>
Keywords: Printer, failure, help
I have a NLP and for some reason it will not pull the paper all the way
into the printer. Everytime I try to print something from the tray it
gets jammed halfway into the printer, I can use the manual feed to print
something but this is just to timeconsuming. Can anyone tell me what
parts I need to replace or if I have to send it to repair?
Thanks
John C Davis
jcd@aladdin.aero.org(NeXTMail OK)
From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: -> OK with 16 Mb, very slow with 32 Mb on
Date: 8 Sep 1993 23:41:39 GMT
Organization: E&S
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26lqjj$do5@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <1993Sep8.114852.18318@cubx.com>
In article 18318@cubx.com, ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque) writes:
> Girls and boys,
>
> I have an ISA/VLB motherboard which runs NS/FIP nicely with 16 Mb of RAM.
> It usually gives a 28-32 MIPS performance rating w/ NXBench.
>
> My config is the following :
> ATI GUP w/ 2 Mb RAM
> Adaptec 1542 B w/ 500 Mb Fujitsu
> Intel EtherExpress
> Serial Card (w/ UART 16550)
> Logitech Bus Mouse
>
> When I add 16 Mb for a total of 32 Mb then it sloooooowwwwwws down to 2-10
> MIPS (very Variable). DOS and Windows performance are not affected, only
> NS/FIP 3.1 (Probably because DOS is 640k dum and Windows 16 Mb idiot)
>
> I am about to throw the motherboard away and put my 486 DX2/66 on (Yet)
> Another ISA/VLB motherboard. So my questions are :
>
> 1) Would anybody know what is happening ?
>
> 2) and less important : Does anybody have good experience with any
> EISA/VLB clone motherboard ?
I experienced the *exact* same symptoms when I went from 16MB to 32MB.
I also have the *exact* same configuration-- sans the EtherExpress card.
What's going on?
Nevin
From: marcos@kaleida.com (Paul Marcos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Will Canon go PowerPC on their NeXT boxes?
Date: 9 Sep 1993 00:06:30 GMT
Organization: Kaleida Labs, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26ls26INN9p5@golden.kaleida.com>
References: <26l74b$cgk@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
In article <26l74b$cgk@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> gld@mhoro.cc.columbia.edu
(Gary L Dare) writes:
>
> The title says it all: will Canon go PowerPC on their NeXT boxes?
> I know that NeXTstep has been ported to Intel, and can't see it
> not going that way with the PowerPC. Since Apple will release
> Macintoshs with the PowerPC 601 early next year (supposedly), will
> Canon hedge their investment in this hardware platform in this way?
> Interested in your thoughts ...
>
I think the title should really say, "Will Canon go *NeXTSTEP* on their
*PowerPC* boxes" :)
The word that I heard on a recent trip to NeXT was that canon would almost
for sure go along with a PowerPC box....however it wouldn't be running
NeXTSTEP initially. They would probably opt for NT, MacOS, etc that have
some decent market share. Apparently NeXT is more interested in pursuing
development on platforms that already have some market share (Intel,
PA-RISC, ...) than to invest too much time/effort in the NRW. Makes sense
if you want to sell more copies of NS.
...................................................................
Paul Marcos NeXTMail appreciated
Kaleida Labs, Inc. marcos@kaleida.com
...................................................................
From: cuthie@cs.umbc.edu (brian cuthie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Reformatting DAT (WangDAT only)
Date: 8 Sep 1993 20:30:04 -0400
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Message-ID: <26ltecINNd6@checkers.cs.umbc.edu>
References: <1993Mar22.195050.26552@ohsu.edu>
In article <1993Mar22.195050.26552@ohsu.edu> filibert@ohsu.edu writes:
>
>If there is any interest, I found out how to reformat my DAT tapes from
>uncompressed to compressed (or vice versa) on a WangDAT (Microtech Eclipse
>2.0T). This comes in very handy, since the DAT drive sensed the type of data
>on the tape when it is inserted, and most software (crappy RunningBack, in
>particular) doesn't allow for forcing a reformat in the opposite compression
>mode, which means once formatted w/o compression, always formatted w/o
>compression, ugh! Well, I now have seen the light...
>
Which WangDAT do you have ? If it's the 2600, then you only get to format the
tape into compressed/uncompressed mode when you first begin to write it. which-
ever you choose, you're stuck until you start writing from the beginning again.
(But then, you knew this...)
However, any of the newer DATs (all with compression except the dreaded wangDAT
2600) allow compression with block level granularity. SafetyNet will allow you
to choose whether a backup is compressed or not on an individual basis, even
after the tape has some data on it.
Cheers,
Brian
From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: -> OK with 16 Mb, very slow with 32 Mb
Date: 9 Sep 1993 00:56:45 GMT
Organization: E&S
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26lv0d$do5@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <26lqjj$do5@cnn.sim.es.com>
In article do5@cnn.sim.es.com, npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt) writes:
> In article 18318@cubx.com, ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque) writes:
[...munch...]
> > When I add 16 Mb for a total of 32 Mb then it sloooooowwwwwws down to 2-10
> > MIPS (very Variable). DOS and Windows performance are not affected, only
> > NS/FIP 3.1 (Probably because DOS is 640k dum and Windows 16 Mb idiot)
> I experienced the *exact* same symptoms when I went from 16MB to 32MB.
> I also have the *exact* same configuration-- sans the EtherExpress card.
>
> What's going on?
>
> Nevin
I discovered the problem.
The CMOS setup (the Advanced Chipset Setup) had an option
for enabling/disabling caching of memory accesses that
occured above the 16M point. It was disabled. Enabling it
tripled the speed.
Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: knudsens@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Steven K Knudsen)
Subject: Connecting SupraFax V.32bis for dial-in: how to?
Message-ID: <1993Sep9.012805.17705@newton.ccs.tuns.ca>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 01:28:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
hello,
The title about says it. I've tried connecting the modem as suggested
by the online doc and with reference to the about.modem post, but I've
had no luck dialing into the computer. I am able to get the modems
to handshake and establish a connection, but I cannot get the dial-in
modem/NeXT combo to issue a login prompt. I assume there is something
amiss with the getty process or table or both. But What? :#(
I am able to dialout with this modem setup using tip or cu and can
transfer files. I've tried all kinds of gettytab references in the
ttys file "ttydfa" line... no luck
Can anyone who has a SupraFax working as a dial-in modem please
give me some answers.
Waiting to connect...
Steven
--
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TUNS | man is dressed in white clothes.
Department of Electrical Engineering | Everybody says that he's mad -
knudsens@tuns.ca | Nobody knows the things that he knows.
From: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Accessing a NeXT printer over ethernet?
Date: 8 Sep 93 22:35:40
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <GISLI.93Sep8223540@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <1993Sep8.215058.27451@mindvox.phantom.com>
<GISLI.93Sep8184311@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
In-reply-to: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu's message of 8 Sep 93 18:43:11
>>>>> In article <GISLI.93Sep8184311@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>, gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson) writes:
myself> NNTP-Posting-Host: liapunov.eecs.umich.edu
>>>>> bruce@phantom.com (Bruce Fancher) writes:
BF> I can't seem to export the NeXT printer to let my SparcStation
BF> use it. The f**king NeXT seems to want a NetInfo network. What
BF> can I do?
myself> My situation is even worse. I occasionally need to print
myself> from an Apollo computer (try exporting a NeXT printer to an
myself> Apollo).
myself> With the Apollo in .rhosts on the NeXT I simply type:
myself> cat <filename> | rsh <the NeXT> lpr
myself> from an Apollo prompt. Works great.
Actually, before I get more messages, let me clarify. The Apollos
I referred to aren't on an ethernet at all. They are on a Token
Ring with a sometimes flaky, sometimes nonexistent NFS.
Needless to say, tips for overcoming this are welcomed, but till then
I'll merrily pipe into the rsh.
Gisli
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Delenda est Carthago.
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Cube to Megapixel Cable? (FAQ!!!)
Message-ID: <1993Sep9.024151.6276@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <CD1rvL.M2n@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 02:41:51 GMT
In article <CD1rvL.M2n@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) writes:
>
> We just had a failure in the cable which connects the cube to the
> megapixel monitor in one of our NeXT computers. Does anyone have
> a source for these?
Yes, but you'll have to check the FAQs in the announce group for that
information...and much more!
--
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PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: NeXT Trinitron (17") and White HW
Message-ID: <1993Sep9.024316.6346@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <26lqpp$3oo@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 02:43:16 GMT
In article <26lqpp$3oo@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea
Brooks) writes:
> I think this has been discussed before.
>
> Can the NeXT 17" Trinitron ADB monitor be used with a Mac or
> Intel based HW? If so, how?
Yes, it has... and the answer is...
check NeXTanswers via email!
They have a quick list of what they claim will work with other hardware.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Faster Serial Ports-Solution? <problem msg?>
Date: 8 Sep 93 20:39:15
Organization: Dubious.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MCGLK.93Sep8203915@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
References: <26lncuINNg26@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
In-reply-to: wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu's message of 8 Sep 1993 22:46:54 GMT
wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) writes:
| I have had a devil of a time reading this message. Every time I try to open
| it with NewsGrazer, my modem drops the slip line. Humm... some control
| character must have somehow gotten into it.
Interestingly enough, the original post had a line reading "H-2093" followed by
three plus signs (the Hayes command for "Hey, I'm talking to the modem now")
followed by "AT". After that, whitespace, until the "H" in "Hayes." Bingo.
Instant hangup.
Here's the post again, without that line:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: roder@mayo.edu (Mark N. Roder)
Subject: Faster Serial Ports- Solution?
Date: 8 Sep 1993 17:08:11 GMT
Anybody going to dive into DriverKit and see how difficult a driver for
this board would be?
Later
Mark
NeXTMail Roder.Mark@mayo.edu
This is from comp.dcom.isdn.
------------snip--------snip-----------
From: trutter@hayes.com
Subject: Hayes announces Higher Speed Serial port
Date: 8 Sep 93 11:07:36 EDT
For Immediate Release
HAYES PAVES WAY FOR 115.2 KBIT/S AND HIGHER SPEEDS
Introduces New, Single Port, 16-bit Hayes ESP Communications Accelerator
ATLANTA, GA, 7 September 1993 -- Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc.
today announced a single port, 16-bit Hayes ESP Communications Accelerator
which supports speeds up to 921.2 kbit/s. Hayes will debut this product at
Windows Solutions exhibition in Santa Clara, California, on 16-18 September
1993 (Booth #909).
Available worldwide this month for US$99 and CDN$125, Hayes ESP
Communications Accelerator Version 2.0 is an enhanced serial board for IBM PCs
and compatibles that maximizes data transmission speeds and prepares the way
for high-speed modems or ISDN applications. This half-card board incorporates
a dedicated communications co-processor with built-in automatic flow control.
The board ensures data integrity by eliminating buffer overrun errors
experienced with even the 16550 UART at speeds of 115.2 kbit/s or higher. To
maximize the PC's performance, Hayes ESP Communications Accelerator provides
dual 1024 byte send/receive buffers and a 16-bit PC Bus interface. The product
works with most high-speed modems and ISDN terminal adapters and is fully
compatible with Windows communications software.
"With this version of Hayes ESP Communications Accelerator, we clear the
way for the highest transmission speeds using technologies such as V.Fast Class
(V.FC) modems and ISDN with data compression," said Hayes President Dennis C.
Hayes. "With these advanced transmission speeds, the standard serial port or
even 16550 UARTs are no longer effective."
Hayes ESP Communications Accelerator comes with communications driver
software for Windows 3.0, 3.1 and Windows for Workgroups, as well as a
Windows-based installation and set-up program for easy configuration without
the need for dip switches. While the ESP board is designed for speeds up to
921.2 kbit/s, with the current Windows driver software, users can still reach
the high speeds of 115.2 kbit/s. As communications drivers and communications
software are enhanced to support higher speeds, owners of Hayes ESP
Communications Accelerator v2.0 can have the added benefit of speeds higher
than 115.2 kbit/s.
As part of Hayes continued research and development into high-speed
communications, Hayes developed the Hayes Communications Bus Interface
Controller (COM-bic) which is a single chip communications co-processor
solution that replaces the majority of the circuitry required for the first
generation Hayes ESP Communications Accelerator. This single chip solution
supports serial data rates of up to 921.2 kbit/s with two internal send/
receive buffers of 1024 bytes each. In addition, a special purpose
communications co-processor manages the buffer, automatic flow control, and
system interface to maximize performance and prevent data loss due to buffer
overflow. Hayes has incorporated COM-bic on Hayes ESP Communications
Accelerator v2.0 and will make the chip available to computer manufacturers to
integrate into their mother-boards.
Best known as the leader in microcomputer modems, Hayes develops, supplies
and supports computer communications equipment and software for personal
computers and computer communications networks. The company distributes its
products in over 60 countries through a global network of authorized
distributors, dealers, mass merchants, VARs, systems integrators and original
equipment manufacturers.
###
Hayes and ESP are trademarks of Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: davel@mindvox.phantom.com (Dave Lowens)
Subject: What's the best monitor?
Message-ID: <2DDL0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Originator: davel@mindvox
Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com
Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 04:09:12 GMT
We are planning to purchase 35 systems which will be NeXTSTEP ready. After
evaluating systems from Intel, Compaq, Epson and Dell, we have decided on the
Dell DGX "Jaws" systems, the visual speed of these machines being the primary
consideration (yes I know they are running at 50mhz, being that 95% of the
user's time will be spent looking at the screen, we have found that the
performance of other available systems at the present time doesn't compare
favorably with the Jaws).
The systems will be used mostly for data visualization of monetary market
transactions, running custom in-house applications and some of the base
NeXTSTEP features. The displays will stagger roughly half 17" monitors,
the other half 21" monitors.
This is where I would like to get a little input. We have been told repeated
horror stories about the Dell Ultrascan (Mitsubishi Diamondscan Pro) 17"
monitor and Jaws, having heard nothing but negative, we have steered clear
of these. However we have a DGX with a 21" Mitsubishi running, and the display
is sharp, in focus and has no bleeding problems, in fact this is the same
monitor that SGI routinely ships with their Indigo workstations. We're happy
with the overall quality and curious whether the 17" Ultrascan stories are
fact or fiction in light of how well the 21" works.
If you've had personal experience with a few monitors, or are sitting in front
of one right now that you really like, I'd like to hear the pros and cons, the
models we have heard about that are good at 17" include Nanao, Nec and Sony,
and at 21" Nanao, Sony, Mitsubishi. With negative reviews of the Nec's at the
larger 21" monitor size and conversely negative reviews of the
Mitsubishi's at
17" size.
Any model numbers, or makers that anyone would care to recommend, presuming
price isn't a problem and the highest possible picture quality with the jaws
systems is the priority?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom)
Subject: RFC: NS/I Backup Hardware/Software
Message-ID: <CD01Bn.EB@np.com>
Organization: NP Consulting, San Francisco
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 19:40:35 GMT
I would like to request comments from the NS/I community regarding the
backup media/hardware/software of choice. Just for point of
reference, I have two disks totalling 2.5GB, and I also have
applications that generate large amounts of data (~20MB/day) that I
need to store (offline). I consider the following (non-exclusive)
points relevant (in no particular order):
Time involved in a complete backup
Ease of recovery from a disk failure
Reliability of hardware/media combination
Suitability for data exchange (i.e. popularity and/or interoperability
with others in the NeXT and/or technical community at large)
Cost (hardware, media, software)
Type of access (i.e. random & sequential or sequential only)
Level of automation
Ease of setup
Obviously a MO drive with 1TB capacity for ~$1000, cartridges
$10/each, and 10uS access would solve the hardware problem :-) But
seriously, what kind of decision have *you* made, and are you happy
with the tradeoffs involved? I know about lots of the options; what I
am particularly interested in is your "package solution". What have
you put together that works?
BTW, I will, of course, summarize to the net both mailed and posted
responses if the volume justifies.
--
Paul Nordstrom
NP Consulting
paul@np.com
(NeXTMail Appreciated)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon)
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 05:59:13 GMT
Message-ID: <CD2oMq.8o5@well.sf.ca.us>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
References: <LTo46B3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> <1993Sep7.134921.1503@trek.nbg.sub.org>
Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
jmbreuer@trek.nbg.sub.org wrote:
: chrisl@mindvox.phantom.com (Chris Lesher) writes:
: >Having spent more hours than I care to count exposed to the Windows
: >environment at work, and through an extended patronage of MindVox which
: >seems to be something of a NeXT mecca full of converts and true believers,
: >when the time came for me to purchase a new machine this fall for in-house
: >evaluation and future planning, I was quite excited by the prospects of
: >NeXTSTEP technology.
: > After arranging to view some of the NeXT's at Vox I came away with
: >a strange feeling that perhaps I should have listened to. I was stunned
: >by the user environment and in an office full of machinery the only only
: >ones that seemed to have any active use as workstations were two NeXT's,
: >and a Super NES ;-). But for the life of me, other than the obvious
: >observation that a lot of people smoke pot in a closed room, I was unable
: >to figure out what anybody there used the NeXT's for other than $10,000
: >paper weights which served as terminals to be hooked through an ethernet
: >to the servers, all of which were dull, dreary, with the monitors turned
: >off, but every single machine was some kind of Sun. In fact MindVox which
: >started on the NeXT had moved away from using them for anything except
: >fancy terminals as quickly as they could.
: >
: > But no..... I listened to the advice of the people hanging around,
: >read and re-read the evangelists postings and sunk nearly $10,000 of my
: >company's money into a NeXTSTEP eval machine from Dell.
: >
: > And what I now proudly possess is my very own $10,000 paperweight.
: > I plug it into the ethernet, RDP exception #6, the machine hangs every
: >time within a matter of hours. I plug in a modem, guess what, oh SORRY,
: >the serial port drivers have a few problems. I NEEDED A MACHINE THAT CAN
: >COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER MACHINES. A STAND-ALONE SYSTEM IS NEARLY WORTHLESS
: >TO ME AND RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE, BECAUSE ANY TIME I TRY TO PLUG IT
: >INTO A NETWORK OR CONNECT A MODEM, IT HANGS. *EVERY SINGLE TIME* To
: >suggest that the solution is waiting for NS3.2 to arrive in the 3rd
: >quarter, or 4th quarter, or whenever it gets here, is absolutely
: >preposterous. I have paid for something which does NOT work. For all its
: >garbage, Windows DOES work and rarely crashes and right now I'm using a
: What exactly does "rarely" for you? Once every half an hour? :-|
: I once TRIED to do some "amateur" DTP using Windows (and the two
: thousand utilities you need to run it). Oh, no...
: >486dx/33 to get my work done, while I look at the NeXT and realize what I
: >should have known in the first place. The NeXT is a beautiful
: >paper-weight, which is championed by the sort of people who have SGI
: >Indigo^2's sitting in their houses because "they're so cool man", have
: >wardrobes from Armani, cars from Porsche, and make a living selling ATTITUDE.
: >
: > In a word, that's the NeXT, because it certainly doesn't do
: >anything like FUNCTION as expected. When I brought these problems back to
: >the true believers I came away with the tremendous wisdom of "well, I
: >dunno, right now I just use kermit on the SGI or tip out" followed by
: >"NeXTSTEP is pretty to look at, but ya know, its like whatever, the Apple
: >][+ pretty much did everything I wanted a computer to do. It had a
: >terminal program called AE pro, and a word processor. Everything else are
: >neat toys to play with."
: >
: > BINGO. So now I'm using Windows. And looking at OS/2.
: >
: > NeXT, this is RIDICULOUS. Kindly assign one or two persons to
: >take the 3 hours needed to fix your serial port and ethernet drivers and
: >allow those of us who have invested into what you and your evangelists are
: >espousing, to at least make use of what we have purchased. There is no
: >way I could ever recommend NeXTSTEP to our purchasing department, I have
: >this sinking feeling I'd be left holding the bag, a feeling many people
: >who purchased black hardware in 1993 must be very familiar with.
: >
: > chrisl@phantom.com
: Hmmm... maybe those people [NeXT Inc.] should have kept on making the
: real thing.
: I was quite upset with DOS/Windoze, and finally replaced my
: I-Blame-Myself-compatible equipment with a NeXTcube w/ dimension.
: And, whoa!, the machine stayed up for one week, two weeks, three
: weeks, a month, half a year... and, in fact, is still running and
: doing anything I need and want to do.
: I do not experience any strange problems with connecting the cube to
: about any Ethernet Network or modem, (how else could I write this
: letter), and I still have not seen any GUI comparable to NS.
: The problem mentioned above comes down to the basic philosophy of
: buying computers: Either you try to stay "in fashion" (good luck to
: your bank account or wherever you get your money from), or you try and
: find a computer that does anything you want it to do with the speed
: you need it being done, and do not really need to keep up to date. I,
: personally, chose the second option, and I cannot imagine replacing
: the Cube with anything else. It does what I want it to do, and it does
: not need hours of personal care. Have you tried to configure, say, an
: IBM-Comp. to run one of these wonderful memory managers (like QEMM,
: which is not bad at all) and something weird like a CD-ROM driver to
: have more than 450 KB of base memory free (which Windoze desperatly
: needs to run)? Yes, it works, but good luck, take your time, and don't
: ever dare to add some more peripherals which need drivers... or take
: the time again.
: If DOS/Windows does everything you want your computer to do, fine!
: I don't try to persuade anyone to turn away from a working equipment.
: I just want to tell those people who do want to work with their
: computers (instead of doing a full-time-job configuring them) that I
: found a solution which works fine for me.
: I am not pro-NeXT (well, at least not in the extreme), I just don't like
: equipment that does not work, imagine a car sold with the following
: instructions:
: Yes, the new engine can be put in "enhanced mode", which
: gives you some hundred percent more performance, but it
: also uses a different kind of fuel, which is very difficult
: to get (although it really is not); and the other parts of
: the car were not really built to facilitate the engine being
: run in enhanced mode. Therefore we recommend you to run your
: engine in "compatibility mode".
: ... that is about the reason why I am "anti-IBM".
: Again, this is not meant to be a flame, I would just like to put
: things a bit differently:
: NeXT did make a mistake, that's right, they moved to unsuitable
: hardware for NS and are now (apparently) not able to handle it.
: IBM somehow managed to sell its "it-just-might-work...perhaps"-
: Computers to about everyone... and now you blame NeXT for not
: being able to cope with old-fashioned architecture restrictions.
: Just wanted to say that,
: Joe
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From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems running NS/I on ALR Evo V Pentium w/ ATI 2 MB
Date: 9 Sep 1993 06:14:02 GMT
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- PUBLIC ACCESS UNIX
Message-ID: <26mhja$c2s@inxs.concert.net>
References: <1993Sep6.160230.29396@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <26ishi$bb2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1993Sep8.144700.22317@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
No Comment on Kris' second post in this subject!
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From: nico@imani.cam.org (Nicolas Dore)
Subject: Re: Will Canon go PowerPC on their NeXT boxes?
Message-ID: <1993Sep9.062139.5434@imani.cam.org>
Sender: nico@imani.cam.org
References: <26ls26INN9p5@golden.kaleida.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 06:21:39 GMT
In article <26ls26INN9p5@golden.kaleida.com> marcos@kaleida.com (Paul Marcos)
writes:
> In article <26l74b$cgk@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> gld@mhoro.cc.columbia.edu
> (Gary L Dare) writes:
[munch, munch]
> The word that I heard on a recent trip to NeXT was that canon would almost
> for sure go along with a PowerPC box....however it wouldn't be running
> NeXTSTEP initially. They would probably opt for NT, MacOS, etc that have
> some decent market share. Apparently NeXT is more interested in pursuing
> development on platforms that already have some market share (Intel,
> PA-RISC, ...) than to invest too much time/effort in the NRW. Makes sense
> if you want to sell more copies of NS.
Since when does Steve Jobs care about sales? 8^) Having a kid sure has changed
him...
Anyway, it's good to see the NRW coming out (someday?!?), but it is sad not to have
be the fourth NS platform right away (after NeXT, i=>486 and HP-PA, of course...).
Maybe Alpha? (Hey, there's another thread right there! Like we need one more!?! 8^))
Ciao
> ...................................................................
> Paul Marcos NeXTMail appreciated
> Kaleida Labs, Inc. marcos@kaleida.com
> ...................................................................
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> "Just once I'd like to meet an alien nuisance <
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From: ah@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Looking for info on DEC MTE/66 using NeXTSTEP...
Date: 9 Sep 1993 14:27:37 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <26negp$b57@email.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <1993Sep8.005926.22370@cs.yale.edu>
In article <1993Sep8.005926.22370@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> In article <26igc0INN69j@uwm.edu> bond007@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Matt R
Burback)
> writes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Does anyone have any comments about DEC's MTE/66 Mini Tower using
NS/FIP?
> > If so, what size hard drive do you recommend? Video? S3-928 with how
> > much VRAM? Monitor size? Overall speed?
>
> I've seen one post from someone running NEXTSTEP on this box. He had
the
> S3-928 card, which release 3.1 only supports for 1024x768x8-bit
> grayscale. NeXT claims improved video drivers with release 3.2, as
> well as support for the EISA 1740 SCSI board DEC lists as an option for
> these systems.
>
That was me. Here once again my post:
I am just sitting in front of a DECpc 466de MTE. There is a S3-928
graphics card installed, but, guess what, only one MB in it. So here are
the reports of NXBench and DrivePerformance meassured with 16MB RAM and a
DEC 230MB IDE drive. As soon as I receive 3MBs for the graphic card and
the driver update, I will inform you about feeling and benchmarks.
NXBench.app:
Dhrystones: 61855
VAX Mips: 39.27
NXFactor: 1.36 (1024*768 8bit gray, only have 1MB)
Line: 1.38
Arc/Bezier: 1.31
Fill: 1.30
Transform: 1.88
Composite: 1.13
Userpath: 2.07
Text: 1.25
Window: 0.57
DrivePerformance.app reported about 0.9 last time. I don't have enough MBs
free on the disk to test it now.
I installed Nextstep myself and there was no problem.
--
== Andreas ==
Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail
accepted.
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Which Fax Modem for NS/I
Message-ID: <1993Sep9.142006.26132@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 14:20:06 GMT
Yes, I know the serial driver is not ready for prime time. But when
it is I want to put a fax modem on my NS/I machine --one that does not
cost too much and will work with MS Windows as well...
Anyone have any comments or recommendations,
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: NeXSTEP Intel and SERIAL PORT DRIVER == JOKE
Message-ID: <1993Sep9.163626.6707@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Sep7.134921.1503@trek.nbg.sub.org>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 16:36:26 GMT
In article <1993Sep7.134921.1503@trek.nbg.sub.org>
jmbreuer@trek.nbg.sub.org writes:
> NeXT did make a mistake, that's right, they moved to
unsuitable
> hardware for NS and are now (apparently) not able to handle
it.
With all due respect, I would disagree with this statement. Yes, I
know that the currently supported lan cards should be faster. Yes, I
know about the serial port problems. Yes, the non-Wingine graphics
options should be faster. But all these issues are being addressed,
to our satisfaction. And, we (at the Princeton University Libraries)
currently have several working NS/I color networked machines that are
fast enough for intricate quality control work (in developing a very
large image database). And they have been extremely stable (no
crashes, so far --knock on wood!).
I know that things will get even better as the supported conncetions
and peripherals expands. But for a first release, NS/I is one of the
best products I've seen in the past 12 years of computer work.
Yes, I'd rather have a color risc station at home; but I could not
afford the color nextstations, and I doubt I will be able to afford NS
on Hewlett Packard. So, I'm quite happy with NS/I, overall.
With all best wishes,
Phil
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voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: rfadden@glacier.sim.es.com (Rick Fadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems running NS/I on ALR Evo V Pentium... NOT!
Date: 9 Sep 93 13:36:45
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., S.L.C. UT
Message-ID: <RFADDEN.93Sep9133645@vermont.glacier.sim.es.com>
References: <1993Sep6.160230.29396@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <26ishi$bb2@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
<1993Sep8.144700.22317@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <26mhja$c2s@inxs.concert.net>
In-reply-to: briggman@rock.concert.net's message of 9 Sep 1993 06:14:02 GMT
I own the ALR Evolution V that Kris Magnusson tested. I gave the
machine to him for a couple of days for this testing. My experience was:
the machine ran flawlessly for five days before I put it back in the box
and gave it to Kris. Then I read Kris's postings to this Newsgroup.
I got the machine back last night - reassembled the original pieces, and
sure enough its dead!
This could be a case of hardware "infant mortality" after about a
week of use - or it could be a case of "rough handling".
I'd like to hear the opinion of others on the net. I am assuming that
this was most likely a case of infant mortality. The machine might have
had a problem, and the people who swapped boards could have just pushed a
board in and brought out the problem.
The chances of a problem with "rough handling" are probably small.
Here's the good news: when Kris called and told me the machine was
dead I called ALR and their service staff was excellent. They are having
a carrier pick up the machine, and they are sending a new one out which
they say should be here within a week. All of my experiences dealing
directly with ALR have been great. (Avoid the "middle man" and save some
money. In my opinion ALR handles mail order very well, and they seem to
take good care of their customers.)
By the way, I was very impressed with the physical design of the
Evolution V. When I took it out of the box I was initially impressed with
the strong and elegant case design, and then everywhere I looked I saw
excellent design and quality construction. I like everything about the
machine, including the styling and layout of the front panel.
Kris says that while the machine was running NextStep it was
amazingly fast. I am really looking forward to getting the new machine,
installing NextStep on a SCSI drive, and then seeing this performance.
I like ALR, and I especially like this Evolution V design.
(And by the way I am not affiliated with ALR in any way, and this is my
first experience with them. I work on Flight Simulator hardware and
software, and I've successfully avoided the PC business up until now.)
Email: rfadden@vermont.sim.es.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.misc
From: spenton@irie.Colorado.EDU (Steve Penton)
Subject: External HD cases -- What's Good ?
Message-ID: <1993Sep9.202922.3098@colorado.edu>
Sender: news@colorado.edu (The Daily Planet)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 20:29:22 GMT
Greetings,
I need to add an external HD, and I can't seem to find
a good source for external cases. I need a case (black of course)
that has room for multiple drives.
Anybody have any good recommendations ?
Thanks, Steve
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From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Faster Serial Ports-Solution? <problem msg?>
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Orlando / Winter Park, FL
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 19:42:39 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Sep9.194239.1511@bilver.uucp>
References: <26lncuINNg26@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> <MCGLK.93Sep8203915@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
In article <MCGLK.93Sep8203915@yang.cpac.washington.edu> mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) writes:
>wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse) writes:
>| I have had a devil of a time reading this message. Every time I try to open
>| it with NewsGrazer, my modem drops the slip line. Humm... some control
>| character must have somehow gotten into it.
>Interestingly enough, the original post had a line reading "H-2093" followed by
>three plus signs (the Hayes command for "Hey, I'm talking to the modem now")
>followed by "AT". After that, whitespace, until the "H" in "Hayes." Bingo.
>Instant hangup.
You don't suppose Hayes, or someone very pro-Hayes imbedded that on
purpose to show how 'fragile' modems that use the TIES (Time
Independant Escape Sequence) protocols are, compared to the true Hayes
Time DEPENDANT Escape Sequence that they want everyone to license.
A possibility.
Nah - no one in this squeaky clean industry would even consider doing
anything like that would they.
And - is this next line neccesary (I'd better include it to be sure).
))))
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From: scollins@lookout.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com (Steven Collins)
Subject: Problems with new SERIAL driver
Message-ID: <CD3Mqn.DLu@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>
Sender: news@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com (IT Netnews)
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 18:15:59 GMT
Has anyone had any problems with the new Serial
driver?
I installed the new driver and on reboot,
the console gets to "Configuring Drivers" and
then hangs. Same problem of course when I
reboot using config=Default. I have yet
to get the system back to the original
configuration.
-Steve
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From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: Re: Will Canon go PowerPC on their NeXT boxes?
Message-ID: <CD3r3p.uD@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley)
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
References: <1993Sep9.062139.5434@imani.cam.org>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 19:50:12 GMT
In article <1993Sep9.062139.5434@imani.cam.org> nico@imani.cam.org
(Nicolas Dore) writes:
> Anyway, it's good to see the NRW coming out (someday?!?), but it is sad
not to have
> be the fourth NS platform right away (after NeXT, i=>486 and HP-PA, of
course...).
>
> Maybe Alpha? (Hey, there's another thread right there! Like we need one
more!?! 8^))
A month or two ago, there were some rumblings on the net about NS-related
things that were happening at DEC. I got the impression that NS not only
ran well on their 486/Pentium? box, but that they also had an alpha Alpha
version running "in the labs." The thought police must have clamped down
because I haven't had any further communication from the guy. I wouldn't
mind having a screaming Alpha/NS box on my desk instead of an Intel GX.
John Bartley
From: dgd@nantucket.West.Sun.COM (Dan Donovan - Sun San Francisco SE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with new SERIAL driver
Date: 10 Sep 1993 00:00:35 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26og33$ovj@newscast.West.Sun.COM>
References: <CD3Mqn.DLu@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>
In article DLu@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com, scollins@lookout.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com (Steven Collins) writes:
>
> Has anyone had any problems with the new Serial
>driver?
>
> I installed the new driver and on reboot,
>the console gets to "Configuring Drivers" and
>then hangs. Same problem of course when I
>reboot using config=Default. I have yet
>to get the system back to the original
>configuration.
>-Steve
>
>--
Steve,
I followed the instructions to the letter:
1. Use Config to Remove the Serial Drivers
2. Install the new drivers
3. Use Config to Add the Serial Drivers
4. Restart
My system works fine. Haven't really wrung it out at 38.4K with uucp, but
tip works.
Dan
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: No Nextanswer on NeXT Monitor
Date: 10 Sep 1993 01:38:42 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <26olr2$ogf@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi,
the only Nextanswer I could find about the possible use of
the Next color monitors with Intel boxes had no mention of
whether they meant the 17 or 21", Trintron or Fimi, ADB
model or non ADB... It states merely that Next color monitors are
compatible ONLY with the Dell GX, nothing else.
Is this true?
How can I hook the Next monitor to the Dell? Has anyone got one
hooked to anything else? (anything, from Intel to Mac; I'd
like to know).
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
Johns Hopkins
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Soundblaster() support? ( 3rd request)
Message-ID: <1993Sep5.103945.26178@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <CCrJ6D.Iu5@utstat.toronto.edu>
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1993 10:39:45 GMT
In article <CCrJ6D.Iu5@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu
(Philip McDunnough) writes:
> Does anyone know if NeXT (or any company!) plans to provide support
> for the SoundBlaster-16 in 3.x ? There is an odd silence regarding this
> issue.
The silence is very odd concerning all future drivers. I could ask the
same question about Future Domain SCSI, virtually every ethernet card on
the market, and the variant S3 and ET4000 cards.
The lack of a driver for the SoundBlaster is especially strange, given
that it was the only board supported by the alpha NS/FIP.
I understand that writing sound drivers will be supported by the 3.2
version of the DriverKit.
Paul
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P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228 76711.451@compuserve.com
From: 0603dp35@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Zaldivar, Edwar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: dos/NeXtstep
Date: 10 Sep 1993 00:16 CST
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <10SEP199300163239@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.42
Is it possible to have DOS and NeXtstep on the same HD? If so is it possible
to have a choice at bootup?
Any response will be appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: schwartz@mindvox.phantom.com (Dave Schwartz)
Subject: NSintel and Canon bj-200 printer?
Message-ID: <oZFN0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Originator: schwartz@mindvox
Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com
Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 07:00:35 GMT
I have installed nextstep 3.1 and found that it only support postscript
printers. Is there some sort of driver either public domain or
commercially supported to allow the Canon BJ-200 to work under NS? its a
very nice inkjet, supports 360dpi, and works well, if it did work under ns
that is!
-]Dave
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which hardware to buy for network rendering?
Date: 10 Sep 1993 08:05:10 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <26pcfm$d4d@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
I am not sure if this is a hardware question or a software question really,
probably both. I am considering buying a second NeXT to attach to my Cube to
do network distributed rendering. Obviously an Intel based machine would be
considerably faster and since video, sound, serial and parallel device
attachment would be irrelevant I could probably get by a lot cheaper just
buying an ISA based DX2/66 with lots of memory and HD space. Does anyone see
any flaw in this logic? Has anyone tried this yet, had good or bad experiences
with networking NS/FIP and Black Hardware? Ultimately I could just add PC
machines as I needed additional rendering power and do all my I/O through the
NeXTdimension system.
Given that this is not a bad idea, should I go ISA or EISA for best network
speed? Would an IDE drive be sufficient? Is there anything else I should
consider?
Thank you for your input.
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From: bbrown@solana.com
Subject: DEC MTE/d2
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Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (Rob Chesler)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 06:03:28 GMT
Message-ID: <bbrown.93Sep106328@ganesha>
Hi,
Below is a compilation of a couple of mail message that have been floating around about the MTE d2. I have been very pleased with the machine so far. In particular, it has been free of any of the nasty installation problems that I have read about on the net. It feels fast and, with the 5FG, the display looks great. I have not yet had a chance to benchmark the machine. I'm just waiting for the new drivers.
Bill
bbrown@solana.com
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <bbrown.93Aug1092236@ganesha> you wrote:
> Hi,
> Does anyone out there have experience with the DEC MTE d2 machine? Does anyone know anything about the S3-928 chip set? This appears to be the only machine available which can do 1280/1024 in monochrome and color. Has anyone benchmarked the machine?
> My current contact at DEC is Al Fiore at 1-800-722-9332 extension 7809. He is not very knowledgeable yet but, he is interested in learning about NextStep. The more questions he gets the more he'll know. Thanks much.
>
> Bill
I am just sitting in front of a DEC MTE d2. It is one of the fastest machines we benchmarked (NXBench reports 63000 Dhrystones, 40 VAX Mips). DrivePerformance.app reports 1.0 for the integrated 230 MB IDE hard disk.
NXFactor of the S3-928 is 1.4 (8 bit grayscale, 1024*786, we only have 1 MB currently installed in the card). As soon as I receive more MBs and the driver update (which is said to be released very soon), I will benchmark the graphics card in color.
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== Andreas ==
Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail accepted.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi,
Thanks for the information. Based on the numbers you mentioned, the MTE appears to be a real winner. I have one on order and hope to receive the machine in 2-3 weeks. How much memory do you have installed in the machine? Can you compare the machine to an Epson NX? Some folks claim that an NX does not benchmark as well as it feels. If you don't mind, I'll publish your results in comp.sys.next.hardware. Thanks again.
Bill
bbrown@solana.com
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Hi,
> Thanks for the information. Based on the numbers you mentioned, the MTE appears to be a real winner. I have one on order and hope to receive the machine in 2-3 weeks. How much memory do you have installed in the machine?
While benchmarking there were 16MB installed.
> Can you compare the machine to an Epson NX? Some folks claim that an NX does not benchmark as well as it feels.
Sorry, have no access to this machine.
> If you don't mind, I'll publish your results in comp.sys.next.hardware.
Feel free.
== Andreas ==
Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail accepted.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi,
I have a couple of question about the MTE d2.
1. Once while in single user mode, I lost the ability to use my keyboard. Has this ever happened to you?
2. The last I heard, you were using the MTE in 8 bit grayscale but you were going to try the machine out in color. When I attempted to use the s3 based driver in color mode, a bad thing happened. Most of the screen turned black. The only regions on the screen with turned on pixels appeared to be those sections which were supposed to appear in color. Both white and black sections of the screen appeared black. Grey sections of the screen appeared as a deep blue. If DOS is booted on the mach
ine, the colors used look normal. Is the standard s3 driver simply incapable of handling the 928 based board in color mode?
3. Do you know anyone that makes a keyboard for PCs that I could use with the MTE that has both a good keyboard feel and the cntrl key in a sane location?
Thanks much,
Bill Brown
bbrown@solana.com
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Hi,
> I have a couple of question about the MTE d2.
>
> 1. Once while in single user mode, I lost the ability to use my keyboard. Has this ever happened to you?
>
No, never happened.
> 2. The last I heard, you were using the MTE in 8 bit grayscale but you were going to try the machine out in color. When I attempted to use the s3 based driver in color mode, a bad thing happened. Most of the screen turned black. The only regions on the screen with turned on pixels appeared to be those sections which were supposed to appear in color. Both white and black sections of the screen appeared black. Grey sections of the screen appeared as a deep blue. If DOS is booted on the ma
chine, the colors used look normal. Is the standard s3 driver simply incapable of handling the 928 based board in color mode?
>
Your guess is right, the standard S3 driver cannot handle color when using this card. We will have to wait for the driver update, which should now really come very soon (I am already waiting for two months).
> 3. Do you know anyone that makes a keyboard for PCs that I could use with the MTE that has both a good keyboard feel and the cntrl key in a sane location?
>
While thinking back I can't remember of any PC keyboard having the control key in a sane location, but I am no PC guru. The only thing I know is that the DEC keyboard is a PS2 style keyboard.
Hope, it was of any help.
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== Andreas ==
Wir entschuldigen uns fuer die Strapazen (Douglas Adams). NeXTmail accepted.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi,
I received the MTE d2 on Friday, so I had the whole long weekend with the machine. Thanks for your efforst vis a vis shipping. The machine is working well. NeXTStep 486 version 3.1 installed on the machine with only one small hitch, I had the floppy drive cable installed backward. Installing NeXTStep 3.1 this easily is unusual. For reference, my configuration is the following:
DEC MTE d2
32 meg RAM
928 based board with 4 meg video ram
NEC 5FG monitor
Apple CD-ROM drive
MAXTOR 535 SY SCSI drive
3.5 inch 1.44 meg floppy
Adaptec 1540b SCSI card
Intel Etherexpress ISA based Ethernet
Pro-Audio Spectrum 16
If you get any more NeXTstep customers, you can tell them that this configuration works as well as the current operating system allows.
I do have a couple of complaints:
1. I did not get a SCSI drive cable with the Adaptec 1540b. According to the contents list, I should have received one. Order number 17-03459-02
2. I did not get an Activity indicator cable for the SCSI board. Order number 17-03457-01.
3. I did not get the Adaptec AHA-1540b/1542 User's Manual. Order number ER-TAXAD-UG.
4. I did get three versions of the Adaptec AHA-1540B SCSI Adapter Installation Summary card. I probably should have only received one.
The manuals are important to me. Thanks much.
Bill
(Editor: Al Fiore has subsequently short-shipped me the missing parts. He was quite apologetic about the mistakes. Bill )
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi,
I like the feel of the DEC keyboard. It's quite nice actually. However, as a UNIX user, I hate the placement of the cntrl key. The delete key is also a bit small, but I can live with that. Do you have a UNIX keyboard with the cntrl key where the caps lock key is on the normal PC keyboard? Do you know any company that makes such a keyboard that will work with the MTE d2? The key placement is really driving me nuts.
Bill Brown
bbrown@solana.com
(Editor: The answer to the keyboard question is no. Is there any way for me to change the key mapping for the Cntrl key? Thanks much. bill)
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From: bbrown@solana.com
Subject: Keyboard Mapping
Content-Type: text/plain
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Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 06:14:05 GMT
Message-ID: <bbrown.93Sep106145@ganesha>
Hi,
Is there any way on Intel hardware for me to re-bind my cntrl key to say the caps lock key? The position of my cntrl key is driving me nuts. Thanks much.
Bill
bbrown@solana.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel)
Subject: cube burning
Message-ID: <1993Sep10.115355.1555@next.cambridge.ma.us>
Sender: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us
Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 11:53:55 GMT
Apparently, this never got posted...
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 19:11:02 EST
From: simsong (To: druby)
To: druby
Subject: cube burning
Cc: edit
To: Dan Ruby, Editor, NeXTWORLD Magazine
From: Simson L. Garfinkel, Senior Editor, NeXTWORLD Magazine
Subject:NeXTCube Serial Number AA001032
Date: March 16, 1993
Dear Dan,
I am writing this memo to explain what happened to the case our NeXTCube
Computer, Serial Number AA001032.
As you know, years ago, when NeXT first contemplated making computers,
Steve Jobs decided that machines should be in the shape of a cube, and that
they should be built from cast magnesium. Although magnesium is a relatively
expensive metal, it is remarkably strong and lightweight. No doubt, this let
NeXT save on shipping expenses, although the added handling and manufacturing
costs was one of the factors which led to the cube's high cost. At the time
that NeXT brought their system to market, the only other company to incorporate
a magnesium case was Grid, which was making a portable computer. (I am told
that Apple also uses magnesium for the inside case of its Duo computers, but I
haven't been able to verify this fact.)
As a former chemist, I was attracted to the NeXT's magnesium case for a
different reason: magnesium burns with a brilliant white flame. When I was in
high school, I used to steal magnesium metal from the chemistry lab and set it
on fire in my backyard. A two-inch long strip would burn for nearly a minute,
the white-hot flame slowly turning the shiny grey metal into a plume of white
smoke (magnesium oxide --- a harmless material which is the main ingredient in
milk of magnesia.)
When NeXT announced that the first NeXT Cube was made of cast magnesium,
I am sure that I was not the only person who imagined what fun could be had by
setting it ablaze. Of course, at more than seven thousand dollars each, I
doubted that anybody would ever actually carry out the experiment.
Anyway, during the fall of 1991, I interviewed Rich Page, NeXT's then
vice-president for hardware, for an article which we later ran in NeXTWORLD
Extra. At the time, I asked Mr. Page if he could get me an empty NeXT Cube
case for the purpose of having such a burning. Page smiled and said that he
thought something could be arranged. A few days later, he called me up and
said that I could pick up an empty cube at NeXT's Freemont factory.
My plan was to light the cube along its top edge. I imagined that the
magnesium would burn brightly and the fire would move slowly down the sides, a
triumphant expression of the power of NeXT's technology to set the world afire.
I drove down to Freemont the next day and picked up the cube, which was
waiting for me behind behind the receptionist desk at the factory. Page had
delivered exactly what I had asked for --- an empty magnesium case, without any
electronics, back plane, or rubber feet. The case was also missing the NeXT
logo, but you can't get everything. I put it in the back of my Jeep and drove
back to my apartment in Berkeley.
Over the next few months, I tried to think of some way to ignite the
magnesium. One idea that I had was to use a mixture of potassium permaganate
and glycerin, which bursts into flames and produces an enormous amount of heat
after just a few minutes. I asked a chemist friend if he could supply me with
the ingredients: he suggested that I simply use a MAP gas torch. "It's hotter
and easier to control," he said. Unfortunately, I left California before I was
able to carry out the experiment. I left the cube with my friend Sophia for
safe keeping.
A year later, Sophia told me that she was sick of keeping the cube. I
came out to California and transferred the cube from Sophia's house to your
basement. By this time, we had started to hear rumors that NeXT might be
discontinuing its cube in favor of the "NeXT Brick," a RISC-based computer. I
started thinking that we might want to use a photograph of the burning cube for
the cover of that issue that announced the NeXT Cube's demise. The image of
the burning cube haunted my dreams. I couldn't wait to do the deed.
The day NeXT publicly announced that it was discontinuing its hardware
line, you called me up and said that it was time for us to burn the NeXT Cube
in your basement. I was coming out to California to attend the third annual
conference on Computers, Freedom and Privacy: it seemed like an ideal time to
conduct the burning. Getting a torch would be easy, and now with the news peg,
you told me that you were willing to pay for the photographer. The only
problem, of course, was where to do the actual burning.
The whole time that I had thought about burning the cube, I had not
thought much about where we would actually conduct the experiment: I had always
assumed that we would go to parking lot, or walk down to a beach, light the
computer with a torch, snap a few photographs, and then wait for the magneisum
to burn itself out. But as I began to consider what would be really involved
with the burning, I realized that we would need to be more professional.
The real reason for my concern was to protect the magazine from legal
liability. As I've already said, magnesium burns with a brilliant white flame
and a tremendous amount of white smoke. Although the smoke is non-toxic, I
realized that the smoke might attract the attention of a passing police officer
or the fire department. We could then be fined for conducting an open-air
burning without a permit or causing a fire hazard or something like that.
For these reasons, the week before I came out to California, I started
calling fire departments in the Bay Area to find out how we could get a permit
for burning the cube. I must have called ten different departments --- each
one told me that they didn't give such permits anymore. I was also told that I
would have to call the Bay Area Air Quality Management District to get a waiver
from the emission laws, that to get the waiver I needed to file an application
and have a hearing, and that even then the waiver was not guaranteed.
I also tried calling numerous analytical laboratories in the Bay Area to
see if any of them had the facilities and the necessary permits to conduct the
burning. Most of the labs had faciities for burning a few grams of magneisum,
but nothing as large as a NeXT Cube.
Finally, in frustration, I decided that I would go through with my
original plan --- driving out to the desert and setting the cube off with a
torch. I imagined that we would drive east on Interstate 580, find a desolate
country road, and then drive north or something.
It was then that I remembered that Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, a
Laboratory owned by the Department of Energy and run by the University of
California at Berkeley. The Livermore Lab is a located in Livermore,
Califonria --- just 20 miles from San Francisco, out Interstate 580. I had
been at the lab in 1989 for an article I was writing for the Christian Science
Monitor. Back then, the people in the press office had been very helpful. I
was sure that a national weapons laboratory would have the facilities for
burning a few kilograms of magneisum. They would probably have the necessary
permits as well.
My next phone call was to the press office at Livermore, which referred
me to the community relations group. I told the people at the group what I
wanted to do. They had me call a person named Burt.
Now, every time in the past when I had called a fire department or a
laboratory to tell them what I wanted to do, I had to spend several minutes
telling them what I wanted to burn, why I wanted to burn it, why I was having a
hard time finding a place where I could do the burn, and a variety of other
things. It was a big hassle. But when I got Burt on the phone, I wasn't more
than 10 seconds into my explaination when he interrupted me and said "You want
to burn a flare, right?"
"Uh, right, that's what I want to do," I said, quite surprised.
"Well, we have a site that might work out just right for you. Site 300.
We use it for testing high explosives. What day do you want to come out? I'll
check to see if the site is free on that day."
I was overjoyed.
"So, exactly what are you burning?" he asked.
"Just a computer case made out of magnesium," I told him.
"That's it? No plastic, no wires, no PC boards?"
"Nothing," I said. "Just a case."
"No rubber or chrome? We need to know if there is anything that might
be toxic. We have reports to fill out with the EPA just like everybody else,"
he said.
"No, nothing but the magnesium," I said. Then, as an afterthought, I
added: "The case is painted. Is that okay?"
"What's in the paint?" he asked.
I didn't know.
"I need to have an MDS --- a Material Date Safety Shet --- on the paint
before I can let you burn it," he said.
Great, I thought. Where would I get that? "No problem," I said. I
promised to fax him the MDS within two days. In the meantime, Burt said, he
would check into our using site 300.
I remembered that there had been some traffic in the NeXT news groups
about the paint that NeXT had used on its computers --- mostly it was from
people who had purchased external disk drives and wanted to paint them with the
exact shade of black used by NeXT. I didn't have a copy of the archives on my
computer, so I sent a message to the BCS-NeXT mailing list; Charles Perkins
wrote back. Perkins had gone to great lengths to ind out the exact shade of
paint. He sent me the following information:
Sparyon Paint
Omni-Packblend
4Next-Black (icon black)
LAV-16
25216
Sprayon Paints had offices in both Ohio and California. I called the Ohio
office; they said that the LAV-16/25216 describes a paint can, but that people
can fill it with whatever kind of paint that they want. A call to California
had the same results. Nobody knew what "4Next-Black" paint was. They said
that I should call the distributor.
At this point, I called NeXT for help. I told them that I wanted to burn a
computer and needed to know what was in the paint. That's when I learned that
most of the people in the hardware division had by this time been fired.
Somebody in hardware maintenance told me to call an outfit called Chicago
Metals. He didn't have a phone number for them, so I called directory
assistance for Chicago and got a phone number. A nice woman answered the
phone; she told me that she was a jeweler. Deadend.
I called NeXT a second time. I told the person that there had to be some
right-to-know paperwork for the people who were applying the paint to the
cubes. California state law. Unfortunately, the person responsible for the
paperwork had been fired. Finally, I got the name of an engineer who had
worked on the Cube's power supply. He told me that NeXT didn't paint its own
computers --- the painting was done by a finishing company in San Jose. When I
called up that company, I told them that I had a potential environmental
accident and that I needed to know the exact paints that they had used. (Well,
perhaps I was stretching the truth just a bit.) The following day, a person
from the finishing company called me back with the Sherin-Williams paint code.
A call to Sherin-Williams revealed that the paint was a non-toxic water soluble
paint. They faxed me an MDS, which I refaxed to Burt at LLL.
When I called Burt back, however, there was some bad news. Livermore's head
Fire Safety expert didn't want us burning the cube outdoors: he wanted us to
burn it in their "burn cell," a brick-and-steel box that had been built
specifically for burning materials that might be hazardous. The burn cell was
equipped with a sophisticated ventilation system for filtering the smoke and
removing any toxins. The burn cell also had fire safety equipment around the
facility in case the fire got out of hand.
Livermore needed the names, social security numbers, and addresses of everybody
who would be inolved with the project. At this point, our art director Chuck
found us a photographer named Eric who would be free on the day that we wanted
to do the burning, a Tuesday. Eric went out on Monday to take a look.
Everything looked perfect. Eric was especialy happy that we were burning the
cube indoors, rather than outdoors, since it was nearly impossible to see
flames and fire in direct sunlight. The only thing that concrened that
photographer was the fact that we only had one computer to burn. What if
something went wrong?
On Monday, the day before the burn, I was walking through the NeXTWORLD of
offices, wondering if I could get a second computer --- a "backup"
computer. Looking around the offices, I found an old Cube that didn't see to
be functioning. It was missing a hard disk and a CPU board. I asked our
system manager if I could borrow it as a backup. He said "sure." I then went
to Dan Lavin, just to get his permission.
This was the fateful computer AA001032.
"No, you cannot burn this computer," Lavin said. The system manager overheard;
he told me that he didn't realize that I wanted it as a backup for a
destructive test.
"But this computer is useless," I told Lavin. "There's nothing here that
anybody can use."
An argument ensued. I finally got Lavin's permission to take the case of
AA001032 as a backup --- provided that I first remove the chassis, back plane,
power supply, optical drive, and anything else of any possible value. I found
a NeXT tool and proceeded to do just that --- with Lavin's eager assistance.
On Tuesday morning I picked up Sally Chew, our managing editor, at the train
station and headed out to Livemore, where we rendezvoused with Eric and his
assistant, an attractive woman named Pam. We went to the badge office, had our
IDs checked, and were given badges. A few minutes later we were joined by
Harry Hasegawa, a jolly man who appeared to be in his late 40s who was head of
Livermore's fire research group. Harry was our official escort. He took us
back to our cars then led us through the Lab's security perimeter. Everything
seemed to be going according to plan.
Livermore is a huge facility. We drove a mile down the road, with buildings on
either side of us, then turned through a traffic circle and finally stopped in
front of a thirty-foot cooling tower. Next to the tower was the burn cell
itself --- a metal shack about thirty feet wide and 20 feet high. The cell had
two large metal doors on the front. The smell of an old fire permeated the
area, like the small of a campsite the morning after a large bonfire.
Standing next to the building was Kirk Staggs, a man in his mid-40s wearing a
T-shirt, blue jeans, with a long reddish beard. Staggs told me he was a
mechanic and technician: whenever the fire research center needed something
built, they turned to him. For example, he had built the burn cell's
ellaborate ventilation system which could be controlled to let in a measured
amount of air. Next to the cell were two wooden shacks which were supposed to
simulate the inside of a nuclear reactor: the group had been simulating what
might happen at different Department of Energy installations if the reactor's
core should happen to catch fire.
Inside the doors of the burn cell, I was surprised to find a computer room ---
at least, a raised floor with a lot of cables. The fire safety group was
simulating computer room fires --- specifically, fires underneath raised
floors. To start the fires, they pumped a large amount of power through the
wires with a huge power supply. It was the perfect setting for burning the
computer.
Since we didn't know how brightly the cube would actually burn, Eric suggested
that we take a series of photographs of a cube in the burn chamber with a
flash, then take a number of photographs of the buning cube. We could then
photographically superimpose the two images. It sounded like a good idea to
me.
Eric and Pam spent the first hour setting up their lights inside Livermore's
burn chamber and positioning the cube. Since my cube didn't have the NeXT logo
in place, they photographed the backup cube. When we were finished with these
shots, I took the spare cube and put it back in the trunk of my rental car.
The day before I spoke with him, Eric had wanted to know all sorts of details
about how brightly magnesium burned. "Bright," I told him. Unfortunately,
"Bright" is not good enough to set an exposure meter on a Nikon F4. Not
satisfied with my answer, Eric had purchased a bar of magnesium the previous
day at a brazing supply company. The idea was to burn the magnesium bar and
see how bright it was: that would then tell use what ballpark to use exposure
when we burned the computer itself.
Kirk cut a few 2-inch segments from the bar, and place one of them in the burn
chamber. He then drove around a fork lift, put a wooden stage on the hoist,
and set up a video camera. Meanwhile, Eric and Pam were setting up their
camera equipment. When everything was ready, another Livermore worker suited
up with fire-proof pants, fire-proof coat and helmet, put on a respirator, and
set the bar on fire with a MAP gas torch.
All this time, I had been worrying about the mechanics of setting the bar on
fire with the torch. In order for the bar to catch on fire, part of the
magnesium would have to be heated up past its ignition point. But the bar was
so thick that I worried that it would conduct the heat of the torch away before
it heated up to the magic temperature.
As we watched, the blue flame of the torch licked the top of the magneisum bar.
After half a minute, there was a distinctive orange glow from the bar's center.
Eric had told us that the magnesium bar was wrapped around a a ferrus core.
Slowly the bar began to melt. Then suddenly there was a spark of brilliant
white light. The person with the torch backed away. There were a few more
sparks, then a steady white flame.
I knew that magnesium burned brightly, but I didn't know how fast. When Eric
asked me how long the cube would be burning for, I told him "at least a
minute." This didn't inspire confidence in his ability to capture the scene
--- he thought that he would have just one chance, and that would be it. Since
the largest piece of magnesium that I had ever burned wasn't any larger than a
pencil, I didn't know if a large piece would burn quickly or slowly. It turns
out, though, that magnesium burns very slowly. The 2-inch segment took nearly
five minutes to burn completely. When the fire finally went out, all that was
left was a caky white ash --- magneisum oxide, the same ingredient that is in
Milk of Magnesia.
"You could eat that stuff," I told Sally. She made a sour face.
While the bar had burned, Eric had taken a series of photographs of the burning
bar with a Nikon camera and Polaroid film. Now we peeled back the paper on the
Polaroid, and one of he Livermore employees. We discovered that, while
magnesium does burn very brightly, it is not nearly as bright as sunlight is.
The first round of photographs were dreadfully underexposed. We set up a
second bar of magnesium, set it burning, and discovered that an f-stop of 3.5
with an exposure of 1/60th of a second with 100ASA film was just about right.
With these test shots out of the way, we started to think about burning the
cube itself. When I had called NeXT to find out what kind of paint they had
used to paint the cube, one of the people I had spoken with told me that the
cube was made out of "magnesium alloy which is specially designed to be
difficult to ignite." These words came back to me as I stood in front of the
burn chamber at Livermore. What if we couldn't get the cube to ignite? The
idea stood out in my mind like a sore thumb.
I looked at our first cube. The NeXT Cube consists of a five-sided piece of
molded metal and a rear plate which is screwed in place. I realized that once
we put the cube into the burn chamber, we wouldn't be able to see the cube's
back side. That meant that we could burn the rear plate first, as another
test.
Rather than using standard screws, NeXT decided to fasten the rear of their
NeXT cube with a non-standard hex screw. Fortunately, I had brought my special
"NeXT Tool" to remove the rear panel. I took it off and handed it to Eric.
"How about if we try to burn this first, just to get an idea?" I suggested.
"Great! The more tests, the better," he said.
We put the rear panel into the burn chamber. The panel is a square piece of
metal, 14'' on each side, and roughly half an inch thick. We stood it on end
with a pair of bricks. Then we hit it with the MAP gas tource.
Nothing happened.
We kept the torch focused on the rear panel. Slowly it heated up in the spot
where the flame lapped. Soon the metal started to melt. Then it puffed up
with a white, caky ash.
"What's going on?" somebody asked.
We kept the flame on the spot. After another minute, we saw that same telltale
white spark. "It's caught!" somebody said. The person holding the torch
backed away.
The flame sputtered for a few seconds, then it went out. Something was clearly
wrong.
We tried again with the MAP gas torch, with similar results. "We have problems
like this all of the time," Kirk said, trying to reassure me. "Sometimes its
really hard to get things burning." He then walked over to a storage shed and
wheeled back an oxygen-acetylene torch. "This should set it on fire," he said
with a gleam in his eyes.
The acetylene torch bruned a lot brighter than the MAP gas, but the results
were similar. The back panel glowed red, burned white, sputtered a little,
then went, leaving a caky white residue --- and a hole.
"This is so NeXT," I told Sally. "Everything works great in the tests, then
when you try to make it work for real, in the field, nothing works. They build
a computer out of magnesium, and it doesn't even burn!"
A drop of water hit my nose. I looked up. Another drop of water hit my
glasses.
"And now it's starting to rain," Sally said.
Everything was going wrong. "I'm sorry!" I said. "I forgot to fix the
weather."
Scott tried again with the torch. He tried running the acetylene gas without
the oxygen: instead of a bright blue flame, he got a smoky orange ball of fire.
But the results were pretty much the same: another hole in the metal, but the
fire wouldn't sustain itself.
I looked around the grounds. Off in the corner, I saw something which looked
like an industrial charcoal grill: a three-foot circular basin filled with
gravel. The purpose of the contraption, we had been told, was for conducting
large-scale flame tests.
"How about if we use the burner?" I asked.
"We can try, if you want," Kirk said. "If it doesn't work, I don't know what
will."
It took two people to picked up the burner and placed it on the floor of the
burn cell. Then Kirk went inside the building and spent another fifteen
minutes hooking it up to the natural gas pipeline. It was then that I noticed
that the tube that brought the natural gas into the burner was three-inches
thick. Just how much gas did this burner use, anyway? I was glad that we
didn't have to pay for the use of the lab's facilities.
Once the burner was hooked up, Kirk took a large kimwipe, doused it with
kerosene, lit it with the MAP gas torch and dropped it on the burner. Then he
turned on the natural gas. A moment later, a sheet of orange flames lept three
feet into the air. Satisfied that the burner was working, Kirk turned it off
and got ready for the burning.
I picked up my cube (I remind you that the cube we intended to burn was my own
personal property), jumped up to the stage of the burn cell, and gently placed
the cube the middle of the burner. Meanwhile Eric, our trusty photographer,
made sure that all of the cameras were focused and ready to go.
Still, I was nervous. What if the cube didn't burn? What if the natural gas
flames weren't hot enough? Eric and I decided to take the rest of our
magnesium bar --- the bar which had burned so well in the earlier tests --- and
put it in the back of the cube, just to give it a head start. "I feel like I'm
working for NBC," I told him. (It was just a few weeks ago that the news had
broken about NBC placing model rocket motors on the underside of GM trucks in
order to force the trucks to explode during a photo shoot.) Scott cut the bar
into small one inch segments, which I placed along the cube's inside edges. I
then took two handfulls of magnesium dust and turnings and spread them evenly
along the cube's front inside wall.
It was starting to rain harder. Eric started worrying abuot his camrea
equipment. Sally found a large sheat of cardboard and held it over the
equipment, becoming a human umbrella. Meanwhile we doused another Kimwipe with
kerosene, and dropped behind the cube. Finally we turned on the gas a second
time.
Once again, bright orange flames leapt into the air. Eric and Pam were
clicking the shutter release of their Nikons.
"Burn!" I shouted. But only the gas heard me call --- all the cube did was sit
there. Eventually I started to see smoke, but it was just the paint. "At least
we know that the paint is non-toxic," I grumbled. The paint started bubbling,
then burned away, leaving the black anodized magnesium alloy. ("It's an alloy
that is resistent to burning," the voice of the soon-to-be-ex-NeXT-employee
came back to me.) As the cube heated up more its top started to sink. One of
the sides started to peel back.
Then I saw it. A glimmer of white. A spark. Then a flame --- a small flame,
but a flame nevertheless, on the cube's left side. A white dot of fire,
growing larger. Eric's Nikon whirled. A second dot of fire started on the
cube's right side. "There it goes!" I exclaimed.
Both dots went out, leaving a caky white residue.
"It's not a very uniform alloy," Kirk said behind me. In spots --- the spots
that were burning --- it was nearly pure magnesium. But other spots must have
been filled with ... something else. That alloy that was resistant to flames.
Would this never catch?
The cube continued its slow collapse, the initial pattern repeating itself.
The metal would pull back in a place, there would be a momentary glimmer,
burning white, and then the spark would go out. Throughout the entire show,
the bright orange flames surrounded the cube on all sides. It really felt like
NBC. The experience held absolutely resemblance to what I had imagined: this
wasn't triumph, this was failure. We couldn't even get the cube to burn!
And the rain was coming down even harder.
Eric kept shooting his camera. "I'm sure that this isn't what you want," he
said, "but at least we'll get something." Indeed, the computer surrounded by
the orange flames wasn't an uninteresting photograph --- it simply wasn't the
image of my dreams.
A few minutes later, what had been the case of a NeXT Computer had been reduced
to a smoldering pile of slag magnesium, with pock marks of white ash, charred
black metal, and the occasional white spark.
Then it happened. A few white sparks appeared and didn't go out. Then a few
more appeared. Then the white sparks began to spread. White smoke --- a lot
of white smoke --- began to rise from the computer. And then, very suddenly,
the entire slag pile burst into a blinding white flame.
"We have ignition!" somebody shouted.
I grabbed a pair of welding goggles to look at the pool of metal as it burned
more and more brightly. The white ash was still forming, but this time it
wasn't putting out the fire. Instead, the fire continued to burn and burn.
But the photographs, I thought. The photographs won't make any sense! Yes, we
finally had a burning NeXT computer --- the only problem was that it didn't
look anything like a NeXT computer. There was no recognizable cube. The metal
wasn't even black anymore --- it was covered with white ash. But it was hot,
and it was burning, and it was a magnesium fire.
That's when I remembered the backup cube. The gas fire hadn't been enough to
set the first cube ablaze, but surely, I thought, this magnesium fire would be
enough to start the other one burning.
"If you take this with you, you're going to end burning it," Lavin had said to
me the night before.
"No I won't," I had promised him. "It's just a backup, just in case something
goes wrong."
Well, something had gone wrong. And now, I realized, we had a chance to make
something go right.
I looked at the burning pool of slag. "Sally," I said after a few seconds,
"let's throw in the backup."
"I was just thinking that," she said.
Eric smiled.
I went to one of the Livermore's professional pyros. "We want to put the
second cube on top of the fire. Do you think that it would work?"
"Sure it would," he said.
I went back to the car and got the backup cube. I handed it to Kirk, who was
still wearing the fire-proof pants.
"Wait a second," Eric said. "Let's reload our cameras."
"Hurry," I said, looking at the magnesium fire. He hadn't gotten brighter in
the last minute, which meant that it would probably start burning out soon.
Eric and Pam reloaded their cameras. I looked at my camera: I was on the 36th
frame. I pushed the button on the bottom and quickly reloaded my camera as
well. Finally we were all ready, and Kirk put the second cube on burning
remains of the first.
Ignition was almost instantaneous. Within seconds, the intense heat from the
pool of burning magnesium had set the second cube's sides smoking, then
burning. Once again I saw that tell-tale bright white light with touches of
green. Flames trailed up the cube's sides. The cube's top sagged a bit, then
smoked, then started to burn. This time, the object engulfed by fire was
clearly a NeXT Computer.
"Yea!" said Sally, who was still holding the cardboard umbrella over the
hotograher's heads.
I clicked away on my camera. Eric took pictures with his. But the whole
emotional tone was wrong. This wasn't the triumph of a burning magnesium case,
setting the world on fire. This was a collapsing metal failure, melting into a
pool of fire and being consumed by it. Perhaps it was a more accurate
representation of NeXT's true reality. After all, physics doesn't lie. How
were we to know, when we had set out that morning, that in our brief four-hour
experiment, we would recapitulate NeXT Computer's experience as a hardware
manufacturer? I looked at the burning cube. White-smoke streamed upwards. At
its base, red embers were emerging. The back wall collapsed but the front wall
still plainly retained the Cube's original shape. I chuckled, then started
laughing so hard that tears came to my eyes. One thing was definately clear:
"Ruby is never going to let us run these photographs," I gasped to Sally.
The second cube continued to burn, its sides falling into the slag pile that
had consumed the first. "You know, we could make it flare up by throwing some
water on it," one of the Livermore engineers suggested. It seemed like a good
idea to us, so he pulled out a garden hose with a trigger nozzle and doused the
fire with a few quick spurts. The water instantly turned to steam. Thick
clouds of white smoke bellowed forwards, out of the chamber. We were covered
with a fine white powder.
"Wow," Eric whispered.
We put some more water on the fire, with much the same results. Eventually we
were left with another pile of burning slag.
"Let's just let it burn out," Kirk said. Eric and I agreed: there was nothing
left to photograph.
Eric started taking down his equipment. When he was finished, Sally put down
the cardboard. That's when she noticed that it had stopped raining. "Somebody
could have told me," she said with a sour voice. Finally, when we were out of
the way, Kirk closed the burn cells' two-ton doors.
"It should burn itself out completely," he said. "I doubt that we'll have
anything that needs to be thrown out."
* * *
So that's how it happened, Dan. We didn't intend to burn cube AA0010032 ---
but we were lucky to have brought it along, considering the other problems that
we had achieving ignition. If I had to do it again, I would have known to ask
Rich Page for two empty cubes, one for the photo shoot, and one for kindling.
And even if I didn't get the second computer, if I had it to do all over again,
you can be sure that I wouldn't take the cube that was supposed to be installed
underneath your desk.
--
................................................................simson
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Next Color Monitors and Intel Boxes (again)
Date: 10 Sep 1993 14:21:21 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <26q2h1$4rd@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hello again,
Nextanswers states baldly that "Next color monitors are
compatible only with the Dell GX". No mention of size,
Trinitron or FIMI, ADB or non-ADB, nor how to connect the
black to the white.
Has anyone DONE this?
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: Telephone # for NICE MB's?
Message-ID: <Sep.10.11.29.01.1993.22366@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 10 Sep 93 15:29:01 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Does anyone have the telphone number for NICE USA (they make motherboards)?
Thanks, John
From: markf@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Mark Frohnmayer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Color monitors and video cards
Date: 10 Sep 1993 15:35:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Message-ID: <26q6sb$gp9@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi, I'm buying an intel box and I want some advice about good color monitors
and video cards.
The monitors I'm considering are the Nanao 550i, 550iW, the Sony 1730 and
the ViewSonic 17.
Also, what S3928 VLB cards are available? Is the ATI GUP better or worse
than the S3928?
Any help or comments would be appreciated.
Mark Frohnmayer
UC Berkeley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: cube burning
Message-ID: <CD5GrI.5C@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services
References: <1993Sep10.115355.1555@next.cambridge.ma.us>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 18:00:09 GMT
Simson L. Garfinkel (simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us) wrote:
: Apparently, this never got posted...
"You can get anything you want, at Alice's restaurant..."
--
Advice found in a pamphlet found on a university campus:
"Sex for the sake of scoring is dumb!"
peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu (Peter Eisch) peter.a.eisch@uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Keyboard Mapping
Message-ID: <CD5GvI.8s@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services
References: <bbrown.93Sep106145@ganesha>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 18:02:34 GMT
bbrown@solana.com wrote:
: Hi,
: Is there any way on Intel hardware for me to re-bind my cntrl key to say the caps lock key? The position of my cntrl key is driving me nuts. Thanks much.
In Preferences.app (Localization Preferences), try the NeXTUSA keyboard.
(PC's can be tolerated with creative programming...)
peter
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From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: Q: Diamond Stealth 24 VLB for NS/FIP ?
Message-ID: <1993Sep10.181221.17988@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 18:12:21 GMT
What S3-805 cards work with NEXTSTEP for Intel?
I have tried Diamond Stealth 24 VLB but the screen
(17" trinitron) just flickers (the first time I've
tried)
And what is the status with various Cirrus cards.
Is it possible that 5426 cards work but 5424 don't?
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From: sbm@tenagra.uoregon.edu (Steve B McGrew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ALR Evolution V
Date: 10 Sep 1993 19:43:27 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <26qlcv$lj4@pith.uoregon.edu>
Keywords: Pentium, ALR
Well in response to an article slamming ALR I have been using an Evolution
V pentium machine for the last few months and I think that it is a
wonderful machine and could not ask for anything more. Especially if you
consider the cost. I was able to pick one up for less than $2500.00
I just wanted to give ALR a fair chance.
Steve
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From: hakimian@haney.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff)
Subject: Need monitor replacements for color slabs.
Message-ID: <1993Sep10.185847.24240@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Keywords: slabs monitor replacement
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 18:58:47 GMT
We have a lab with several color slabs. The monitors on these machines seem to
the weak link in these system. We now have three bad monitors and a few others
ready to die.
Can a monitor other than nexts (very expensive) monitor be used on these
systems? What are my options at this point? Thanks.
--
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From: nsauer@acs.ucalgary.ca (Norbert W. Sauer)
Subject: non next monitor for mono cube
Message-ID: <Sep10.220511.54943@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 22:05:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta, Canada
HELP!
I am looking for a non next monitor for my mono cube. Is there
such a thing. The keybord of my cube plucks into the monitor
which seems to be unusual.
I have tried to undim my monitor as by instructions but without
much success.
I can not afford to send my monitor for repair as I need my next
urgently on a daily basis. Any suggestions?
norbert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: Color monitors and video cards
Message-ID: <CD5MzF.ACG@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <26q6sb$gp9@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 20:16:27 GMT
In article <26q6sb$gp9@agate.berkeley.edu> markf@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Mark Frohnmayer) writes:
>Hi, I'm buying an intel box and I want some advice about good color monitors
>and video cards.
>
>The monitors I'm considering are the Nanao 550i, 550iW, the Sony 1730 and
>the ViewSonic 17.
>
>Also, what S3928 VLB cards are available? Is the ATI GUP better or worse
>than the S3928?
>
>Any help or comments would be appreciated.
>
>Mark Frohnmayer
>UC Berkeley
Nanao with .28 dot pitch is solid as a rock. No distortion at the
edges/corners.
Nanao with .26 dot pitch is solid as a rock as well but costs much more.
The Sony has a smaller dot pitch but suffers from pinhole distortion
around the edges which make the screen look less sharp.
If you want to save a little money, forget the Viewsonic and look at
the MAG 17". It has a .26 dot pitch and less pinhole distortion than
the SONY, but more than the Nanao.
I'd say Nanao if you can afford one, MAG if you cannot.
(n.b. neither the MAG nor the .28 Nanao have color matching so if you
need that look at the high end Nanao)
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From: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEXTSTEP and Amber
Date: 10 Sep 1993 15:38:28 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <26qvl4$t67@phakt.usc.edu>
Does anyone out there in Intel-land know how easy (here's hoping!) it is to
get NEXTSTEP running on Amber hardware (IBM's Amber, not the other Amber...)?
And, if you could recommend one Intel platform over another (cost is a factor,
but ultimately my decision will be made on hardware quality, expandability,
etc.), what are the faves?
Thanks in advance for all your help, suggestions, grief, and any other comments
you care to make!
Take care!
-Rob
rawyatt@scf.usc.edu (Non-NeXTmail)
rwyatt@ata.com <--- NeXTmail!!!
From: rfadden@glacier.sim.es.com (Rick Fadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ALR Evolution V
Date: 10 Sep 93 18:10:39
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., S.L.C. UT
Message-ID: <RFADDEN.93Sep10181039@vermont.glacier.sim.es.com>
References: <26qlcv$lj4@pith.uoregon.edu>
In-reply-to: sbm@tenagra.uoregon.edu's message of 10 Sep 1993 19:43:27 GMT
In article <26qlcv$lj4@pith.uoregon.edu> sbm@tenagra.uoregon.edu (Steve B McGrew) writes:
> Well in response to an article slamming ALR I have been using an Evolution
> V pentium machine for the last few months and I think that it is a
> wonderful machine and could not ask for anything more. Especially if you
> consider the cost. I was able to pick one up for less than $2500.00
> I just wanted to give ALR a fair chance.
I believe the $2500 price is for the bare machine (with 60 Mhz Pentium)
with no memory, and no disk (and probably without a VGA card). The 340-NT
model I got came with 16 Megabytes of RAM, and a 340 Megabyte IDE disk
(Western Digital Caviar). This package with a SCSI based CD-ROM (with NT)
went for about $4500 (but the ATI GUP was extra).
Even though my machine "broke" while it was loaned to a dealer - I
still think its an excellent machine. One warning though - the dealer
told me that he couldn't get the on-board IDE controller to work when
installing NeXTSTEP - he had to use a SCSI drive. One experienced colleague
says this controller *might* be made to work with NeXTSTEP... somehow...
but he and others point out that a $20. IDE controller board would also
solve this problem.
Other details: You have to replace the supplied Trantor SCSI
controller with an Adaptec controller. Also, the 16 Megabytes of RAM,
in my case, is supplied via four 4 Meg SIMMS - so this machine is fully
populated. I've been told that I'll probably want to upgrade to more RAM
to keep NS happy - so this is a problem (probably all of the "NT" models
will have this problem).
So for most people the $2500 "bare" machine is an excellent approach
for building an Evolution V NeXTSTEP machine. You add the memory, SVGA
controller, SCSI controller, SCSI CD-ROM, and SCSI disk... Hmm, what
does *that* bring you up to? $$$$
...
I just called ALR to tell them about the above compatibility issues.
The Evolution VQ Product Manager pointed out that the "VQ" does *not* have
the above problems. It contains an add-in board based IDE controller that
works fine, and their SCSI controller for the CD-ROM is on the NeXTSTEP
compatibility list I believe. Talking to the Evolution V Product Manager, he
indicates they got NeXTSTEP running with their on-board IDE controller...
ALR says they'll ship the Evolution V with 32 Mb of RAM also...
Has anyone else out there gotten the Evolution V on-board IDE controller
working with NeXTSTEP?
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From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: How do I install the Dev. CD? Have no instructions...
Message-ID: <1993Sep11.002358.29285@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 00:23:58 GMT
We just installed 3.1 FIP on our machine (praise the gods!) and were trying
to install the Dev disk afterwards. I think someone might have dropped the
insert that would elucidate on this, but at any rate, it's gone.
Installer doesn't like it and when I put it in the drive, the access light
flashes for a long time and then the cd player is brought up.
What's the deal?
thanks,
greg
reply by mail is most appreciated (not NeXTMail yet, though)
From: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP and Amber
Date: 10 Sep 1993 17:01:23 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: rawyatt@phakt.usc.edu
Distribution: world
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References: <26qvl4$t67@phakt.usc.edu>
Well, chances are I will get some grief!!!
I meant "Ambra", not "Amber"!
-Rob
From: gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Gottfried Mayer-Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Original Cannon Optical Disk has problems
Date: 11 Sep 1993 00:58:46 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <26r7s6$qi9@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
I have been using my Optical Drive for almost 5 years now without any
serious problems. Recently I noticed an increase in the times it spins
down and spins up again. I have cleaned the head and the disks but that didn't
seem to make a difference. Does anybody know what else I can do to
tune-up my OD?
Thanks,
--
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Center for Complex Systems Research, Department of Physics
3025 Beckman Institute, 405 N Mathews, Urbana, Il 61801
gmk@pegasos.ccsr.uiuc.edu (NeXT-Mail)
gmk@goshawk.lanl.gov, gmk@santafe.edu
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From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!trey (Trey McClendon)
Subject: NXBench numbers needed for S3-928
Message-ID: <1993Sep10.223229.17153@tybrin4.uucp>
Sender: trey@tybrin4.uucp (Trey McClendon)
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation, Huntsville AL
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1993 22:32:29 GMT
If anyone has any NXBench numbers for a system running the S3-928 graphics
card using a Beta copy of the NeXT driver, please send them to me if
possible. I have about 3 weeks to decide between developing with NEXTSTEP
or simply porting FORTRAN code to another graphics computer. (Note: No One
wants to port). We have some timing statistics done on a ATI-equipped
whose NXBench numbers we know. A comparison that shows the S3-928
outperforming the ATI GUP in compositing and instance drawing is what I'd
like to see.
Thanks
Trey
P.S. Sorry if I rambled. I'm tired.
--
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email: tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com fax: 205-837-3472
From: t89djo@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (David Jonsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/I on OPTI VESA 495 SX
Date: 11 Sep 1993 08:11:15 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <26s173$mn5@corax.udac.uu.se>
Hello
I have tried to install NS on the above board with 16 MB RAM , Conner
CP30254 IDE-drive, Trident 8900 CL graphicsboard, Adaptec 1542B,
Toshiba XM 3232, CD-ROM drive and some SCSI disks.
This has not worked well for me. When I try to install on the IDE drive
I get "intr: Dropped IRQ 7". What does this mean? I get it several times
but the installation goes on. When I finally comes to the Summary of devices
Window the mouse stops to work normally and is impossible to control so
the installation cant continue. On Pointing Devices it stands PS/2 mouse but
I have a serial one. Can this be changed in some way?
Installation would be easy to continue if the mouse had been usable. Bad that
NS is mouse dependent.
When I install on the SCSI disks (one Segate 320MB and one Q425S) NS only
finds 10 MB to access. (BIOS 10 MB, Device 310MB on Seagate).
Can anyone help me?
David
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From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: Original Printer
Message-ID: <CD5yxq.ABG@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <1993Sep7.220833.1351@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 00:34:38 GMT
In article <1993Sep7.220833.1351@news.cs.brandeis.edu> mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall) writes:
>Hi,
>
>We purchased one of the first Cube packages several years ago and are now
>having problems with the printer. The last paper rollers do not bind
>enough on the paper sufficiently such that the last few inches of a
>printed page remain in the printer, i.e. jammed.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions from experience, e.g. new springs, new
>rollers, ship it for repair? We do have an able electronics technician on
>site albeit with not much NeXT experience and wonder if a rebuild kit may
>be purchased from somewhere for this printer that he could use.
>
>Thanks for your advice,
>
>Brendan McDougall
>Physics Dept.
>Brandeis University
The following posting may help you.
david
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Article 5429 in comp.sys.next.hardware:
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Advice Needed on Replacing Printer Gear
Nntp-Posting-Host: hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1993 01:03:41 GMT
Lines: 45
In article <2C669597.3728@news.service.uci.edu> robin@fisher.bio.uci.edu
(Robin Bush) writes:
> The last gear that shoves the paper out of my NeXT printer is shot. I
> already have a replacement gear.
>
> Does anyone have any advice about the best way to do this repair? I don't
> want to take the printer apart any more than I have to.
Here are instructions I received via email for this repair.
I ordered the parts as described, but a different gear was worn. I was
able to have a new gear reduced in width to the appropriate size.
However: I don't know what the heck happened, but after I went through
the hours of hassle taking the printer apart and putting it together,
the damn thing *exploded* in sparks and flame upon powering-up!!!
Oh well, Bell Atlantic offers a $550 replacement deal...
[begin email]
I got the part numbers straight and they are :RS1-0132, RS1-0116; $2.31 ea.
The first part number is the one we needed, Chenesko recommended the second
one as insurance against future failure. The price is right, so why not.
I get to the fuser by first removing the three screws under the lid,
removing the lid, removing the back door and the outer main case cover.
Then remove the fuser assy', remove the covers from the end of the
fuser. The gears should now be visible. Remove the clips holding
the gear(s)on the shaft. Replace the gear and reassemble everything.
The hardest parts to reassemble (for me) were the covers on the end
of the fuser. I had a second printer to refer to for the reassembly,
if you don't just try to lay things out carefully as you remove them,
make notes if neccessary, and try to get the parts ahead of time so
you can reassemble the printer the same day.
--
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PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: sapp@sawdust.ssc.gov (Kevin Sapp)
Subject: NeXT Mono Slab For Sale
Message-ID: <CD7D3s.8IK@cfnews.ssc.gov>
Originator: sapp@toothpick
Sender: usenet@cfnews.ssc.gov
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory, Dallas
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1993 18:38:16 GMT
NeXT Mono Slab for sale
8 Meg Mem
100 Meg internal drive
660 Meg external
Developers Docs
Mathematica
Lots of FTP'd stuff
Make offer!
Kevin A. Sapp
(214)230-1363 (Home)
(214)708-3345 (Work)
sawdust.ssc.gov
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From: burns@bellcore.com (James E. Burns)
Subject: NeXTCube-040 modem cable??
Message-ID: <BURNS.93Sep11213034@gauss.bellcore.com>
Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: comp
Date: 11 Sep 93 21:30:34
I bought a 'Cube back in Dec. 1989 & upgraded to 25MHz 68040 at the
first opportunity. I was surprised that my Mac modem cable still
worked (to my trusty Hayes 2400), since the doc's indicated Mac cables
were incompatible. Anyway, I finally upgraded to a Hayes Optima 144
and now I NEED hardware flow control. According to the NeXT doc's
(and the doc's with Marble Teleconnect, and postings to this group) I
needed a cable with the following connections:
MiniDIN-8 DB-25
1 20
2 8
3 2
4 7
5 3
6 4
7 (none)
8 5
I have obtained such a cable (and verified the connections), but it
does not work with the Hayes (I can't even get a response to "AT").
The Optima does work (no flow control :( ) with the Mac cable:
MiniDIN-8 DB-25
1 8 and 6
2 20
3 3
4 7
5 2
6 (none)
7 (none)
8 (none)
The Optima doc's say it is wired as DCE and expects the computer to
be DTE. It also states that a DCE-DCE connection needs a null-modem
cable.
Now, I can resolder the DB-25 to get a null modem connection, but I
don't want to invalidate my warranty if I don't end up with flow
control. So finally my questions:
Why are the doc's inconsistent with the behavior?
Is the Optima weird (i.e., are other modems DTE)?
Is there a chance my early '040 board is using something that doesn't
match the docs?
Thanks,
jim burns
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From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: Will Canon go PowerPC on their NeXT boxes?
Message-ID: <CD7v1J.Ht4@queernet.org>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1993 01:05:43 GMT
References: <26l74b$cgk@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Organization: QueerNet
In article <26l74b$cgk@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> gld@mhoro.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>The title says it all: will Canon go PowerPC on their NeXT boxes?
According to Unigram-X, Canon hasn't done much more than pay lip service
to their continuation of the NeXT hardware; significant portions of the
hardware assets are up for auction.
--
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-- Paul Rudnick
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron)
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
Message-ID: <1993Sep12.2@corona.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1993 06:05:00 PDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cheap tape recommendations?
I would like to get a SCSI tape drive for backups on an
NS/FIP system. Most of the ones I have seen are
cheap&&IDE || SCSI&&expensive. I don't need a GigaB capacity
...what I would really like is something with a couple
hundred MB for a couple hundred $ that will work with
NS/FIP.
Anyone using such a drive?
Thanks
Peter
________________________________________________________
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Corona Design, Inc.
P.O. Box 51022
Seattle, WA 98115-1022
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From: roberto@SoftDesign.COM (Roberto Arrocha)
Subject: 32-bit Color support
Message-ID: <CCzMBD.v0@SoftDesign.COM>
Keywords: NeXTSTEP Color
Sender: roberto@SoftDesign.COM (Roberto Arrocha)
Organization: SoftDesign, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1993 14:16:24 GMT
Now that NeXT has finally added support for 32-bit color, is there
hardware in the PC/Intel world that may do it justice? Judging by
NeXTWORLD's developer hardware report, the current offerings look pretty
bleak.
..looking for a fully integrated 32-bit color system built, from the
ground up, to run NeXTSTEP.
--
Roberto
SoftDesign, Inc.
From: hkusumo@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Haris Kusumo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Next on ISA Mother board
Date: 13 Sep 1993 02:51:56 +1000
Organization: School of Computer Science, UTS
Message-ID: <26vk3c$3qm@saturn.socs.uts.edu.au>
Summary: Next on ISA Motheer board
Keywords: Next on ISA Mother board
I am planning to run Next on my existing 486 system until I get a new system or upgrade my computer.
Currently my hardware configuration:
486 DX - 33 MHZ using Companion Mother board
16 MB memory (70ns)
330 MB ESDI Fujitsu Harddisk
NEC CDR-74-1 Multi Speed CD-ROM drive (SCSI-2)
1542C Adaptec SCSI-2 controller
I have 2 graphics controller, Currently I use Trident 89000c video card with 1MB ram , the other video card is Tseng ET4000 with 1MB.
Can someone tell me how fast is Next OS perform on 486DX-33 machine, with the video card using ISA slot instead of Local bus.
If NS overall performance on my system is OK (not to slow), I am thinking of getting 500MB SCSI harddisk to put the Next OS, since Next doesn't support ESDI harddisk.
Can you also tell me which video card would perform better under Next OS, Tseng or trident ?
Does Next OS allow me to mix ESDI harddisk with SCSI harddisk, because I am planning to keep the ESDI for DOS and put Next on SCSI (multple partition).
Thanks in advance.
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From: prie@dali.cc.rochester.edu (Tod Rieger)
Subject: SUMMARY: Troublesome Internal SCSI Port
Message-ID: <1993Sep12.170519.20234@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 93 17:05:19 GMT
When I posted that my internal hard drive was misbehaving intermittently due
to a defective internal SCSI port, Art Walker <ahw@egret0.stanford.edu>
suggested that I check the power delivered on the power connector as well as
on the TRMPWR line of the 50 pin cable. I only checked the power connector:
I ran a flat SCSI cable to the hard drive in an external power supply. I did
this just before installing an Apple internal SCSI port terminator (used in
Mac Classics), as Trey McClendon <tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com> suggested.
The moral of the story: When your internal hard drive seems broken, cheer
up -- it may be your motherboard. :-(
Thanks to those mentioned above!
From: wwille.hanse.de!wwille (Winfried Wille)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cube monochrom Monitor flickers
Date: 12 Sep 1993 10:57:31 GMT
Organization: Terraprolls
Message-ID: <26uvar$jo6@wwille.hanse.de>
Keywords: Monitor, Cube
Hi,
not always but about twenty times a day (coming more and more frequently)
my monitor starts to flicker, sometimes about five minutes.
The display area shrinks and expands than in a fast frequence.
My Cube has a 6840 upgrade-board and a old heavy weight monitor without
microphone.
I have already dimmed the montior and made the display area smaller, but
that hasen't any effect.
Anyone a hint whicht parts I have to exchange.
Thanx in advance
Winfried Wille
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Installing NeXTSTEP with Toshiba 3401 CDROM
Message-ID: <1993Sep12.025546.6537@nic.csu.net>
From: awong@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Adrian Wong)
Date: 12 Sep 93 02:55:45 PDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: San Francisco State University
Hi,
I'm installing NS on a 486-dx33 AMI motherboard w/16 mega ram,
IDE and SCSI drives. But my 3401 CD drive kept ejecting the cd while
reading the 3.5 floppy, I have followed the instuctions from installation
guide to disable 5.25 drive and 1542B's floppy controller, still go nowhere.
Will it be the CD drive problem or the disk is defective.
Any Help !
Thanks
Adrian
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hardware map memory map of black hardware, anyone?
Date: 13 Sep 1993 01:32:04 GMT
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <270iikINN4b7@clem.handheld.com>
I'm specifically looking for the actual address of the Zilog serial I/O chip.
Any pointers appreciated!
Jim
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From: rbaxter@netcom.com (Richard B. Baxter MD)
Subject: QBlazer modem cable
Message-ID: <rbaxterCD9r0F.38B@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 01:33:51 GMT
Has anyone connected a QBlazer modem to an 040 machine? Where do you get the appropriate cable to connect to RS-232 modem port to the NeXT RS-423 serial port?
Thanks
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Richard B. Baxter
rick@kaos.stanford.edu (NeXT Mail)
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From: rbaxter@netcom.com (Richard B. Baxter MD)
Subject: Daily system panics-HELP!
Message-ID: <rbaxterCD9s5I.559@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 01:58:29 GMT
I leave my ND always on, and frequently have found the system "frozen". I then h
ave to do a "hard shutdown" to reboot. I suspect there is a memory problem, but
do not know how to isolate it-can someone help? I recently rebooted and got a
system panic window with these messages:
trap:type 0x410 fcode6rwl faultaddr 0x20000
trap:pc 0x20000 apox10127
cd0 proc 0x10127810 pid 172 pcb 0x11598010
traceback: fp0x40b 3258
last fp0x40b3258 panic.........etc
or something like that-can anyone help me, or tell me which utilities may
isolate the problem?
Many thanks in advance.
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Richard B. Baxter
rick@kaos.stanford.edu (NeXT Mail)
rbaxter@netcom.com (NeXT Mail)
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From: davel@mindvox.phantom.com (Dave Lowens)
Subject: best monitors
Message-ID: <uous0B4w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Originator: davel@mindvox
Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com
Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 05:06:05 GMT
Thank you to everyone who has responded to me so far, I have received
nearly 50 replies, with the majority favoring the Nanao monitor at all
sizes, the Nec 5fg (no E) at 17", and the Mitsubishi and Sony's at 21",
not that far off from my original understanding.
Monitor to STAY AWAY FROM at 17" = Mitsubishi Diamondscan Pro (Dell's
Ultrascan) and at least from the mail I've received, any Nec over 17" (the
21" 6fg I believe is the model number) is "not worthwhile"
I will post a summary in the next couple of days, regarding brand names,
suggestions, and problems people have experienced.
Thanks everyone!
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From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: -> OK with 16 Mb, very slow with 32 Mb on
Message-ID: <1993Sep12.171002.4861@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
References: <26lqjj$do5@cnn.sim.es.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1993 17:10:02 GMT
In article <26lqjj$do5@cnn.sim.es.com> npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin
Pratt) writes:
> In article 18318@cubx.com, ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque) writes:
> > Girls and boys,
> >
> >
> > When I add 16 Mb for a total of 32 Mb then it sloooooowwwwwws down to
2-10
> > MIPS (very Variable). DOS and Windows performance are not affected,
only
> > NS/FIP 3.1 (Probably because DOS is 640k dum and Windows 16 Mb idiot)
> >
> > I am about to throw the motherboard away and put my 486 DX2/66 on
(Yet)
> > Another ISA/VLB motherboard. So my questions are :
> >
> > 1) Would anybody know what is happening ?
> >
> > 2) and less important : Does anybody have good experience with any
> > EISA/VLB clone motherboard ?
>
>
> I experienced the *exact* same symptoms when I went from 16MB to 32MB.
> I also have the *exact* same configuration-- sans the EtherExpress card.
>
I saw some messages floating around one of the other groups about this.
The original ISA bus only could access 16MB of RAM. So, certain clone
boards and chipsets were designed around that. The result of these design
decisions is that some clone boards only cache the first 16MB of RAM.
This means that any memory access outside the first 16MB is always fetched
from main memory rather than the cache. So, it turns out that if your
program ends up in high RAM, the machine actually runs slower than it
would have if you had swapped your program into low RAM. I think some
clone boards have it even WORSE than that. When more than 16MB is
detected, ALL caching is turned off.
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
Voice: 919.783.7033
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From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: NSintel and Canon bj-200 printer?
Message-ID: <1993Sep12.170245.4804@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
References: <oZFN0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1993 17:02:45 GMT
In article <oZFN0B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> schwartz@mindvox.phantom.com
(Dave Schwartz) writes:
> I have installed nextstep 3.1 and found that it only support postscript
> printers. Is there some sort of driver either public domain or
> commercially supported to allow the Canon BJ-200 to work under NS? its a
> very nice inkjet, supports 360dpi, and works well, if it did work under
ns
> that is!
>
The BJ-200 is an IBM Proprinter 24P emulation printer which happens to be
supported by NS/Intel, as shipped. There are two problems with this
approach.
1) The driver only works in 180x180 mode but still looks ver nice.
2) It works. But you don't have a PS license to actually use it.
Though, I don't understand this since 180x180 is the same
resolution as fax.
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
Voice: 919.783.7033
From: hkusumo@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Haris Kusumo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP Laser jet
Date: 13 Sep 1993 18:19:17 +1000
Organization: School of Computer Science, UTS
Message-ID: <271ae5$sf5@saturn.socs.uts.edu.au>
Summary: HP Laser jet
Keywords: HP Laser jet
Hi,
I saw in the NeXT FAQ, NS is only support postscript printer.
I jsut wondering if there is driver for HP Laser jet 3p around, or there is
conversion program that convert postscript to HPGL.
thanks in advance.
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/I on OPTI VESA 495 SX
Message-ID: <Sep.13.05.49.05.1993.9566@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 13 Sep 93 09:49:05 GMT
References: <26s173$mn5@corax.udac.uu.se>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
t89djo@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (David Jonsson) writes:
>This has not worked well for me. When I try to install on the IDE drive
>I get "intr: Dropped IRQ 7". What does this mean? I get it several times
>but the installation goes on. When I finally comes to the Summary of devices
>Window the mouse stops to work normally and is impossible to control so
I had the same error cropping up, for me it was caused by an irq conflict. I would look around carefully for a possible conflict. If you have a Pro Audio Spectrum 16, dont forget that its really 2 boards in one--the PAS 16 and the Sound Blaster. You have to set the jumpers for the SB part, while the PAS can be set with software.
Later, John
From: root@acotec.de (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Q: Diamond Stealth 24 VLB for NS/FIP ?
Date: 13 Sep 1993 14:30:44 -0800
Organization: ACOTEC The ISDN Company, Berlin Germany
Message-ID: <272sak$i3@acombx.acotec.de>
References: <1993Sep10.181221.17988@uwasa.fi>
Hi,
at least the Diamond Speedstar VLB with Cirrus Logic 5424 (?, I think),
does not work properly, there are distortions, i.e vertical and horizontal
bars in the upper and lower part of the screen. This is confirmed by another
poster somewhere in these groups.
With the Stealth 24 VLB I encountered exactly the same problem you described.
I posted for help in Compuserve and got the answer that the "generic" S3
drivers seem not to operate especially with Diamond's cards.
Since Diamond has a very restrictive information policy re. their internals,
it seems pretty impossible to patch/modify the drivers to get them working.
( see similar discussions in 386bsd groups ).
The problems seem due to Diamond doing magic things to improve their card
speed.
As a work-around, get yourself a "generic" (whatever that may be) S3-card.
( I reckon anything except Diamond ).
Personnally, I'll nail my Stealth up the wall and keep waiting for my
ATI GUP (presently not deliverable) or the S3-928 driver,resp.
If anybody more clever than I am has an idea, feel free to enlighten me.
Andre'
email: postmaster@acotec.de
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From: bff@next.pvh.org (Brendan F. Forsyth)
Subject: Pro Audio Spectrum Card
Message-ID: <CDAy30.1Mu@csn.org>
Keywords: PAS
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 17:04:10 GMT
I have a PAS card install in a COMPAQ EISA machine and it generetes only
static when I play sounds. Is there a specific recommendation for IRQs
and DMAs to use? I am using IRQ 5 and DMA 3. This setting works when
booted in DOS but not on Nextstep.
Thanks
Brendan
From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Will Canon go PowerPC on their NeXT box
Date: 13 Sep 1993 17:12:00 GMT
Organization: E&S
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2729l0$b6t@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <CD7v1J.Ht4@queernet.org>
In article Ht4@queernet.org, rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
> In article <26l74b$cgk@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> gld@mhoro.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
> >The title says it all: will Canon go PowerPC on their NeXT boxes?
>
> According to Unigram-X, Canon hasn't done much more than pay lip service
> to their continuation of the NeXT hardware; significant portions of the
> hardware assets are up for auction.
Do proceeds from the auction go to Canon, or NeXT?
Worded another way: did Canon really buy the factory? If so, then most of
the items auctioned belong to Canon, and auction proceeds will go the them.
Nevin
From: warren@apl.washington.edu (Warren L. J. Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help requested: Pinnacle optical drive
Message-ID: <272d1l$6r9@news.u.washington.edu>
Date: 13 Sep 93 18:09:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.272d1l$6r9
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington
Hello,
Does anyone have experience using a Pinnacle Micro PMO-650
removable optical drive with their NeXT station? It is
recognized at boot time, but an error occurs when we try to
initialize a disk. Is an entry in the /etc/disktab file
needed? Thanks in advance for any help on this matter!!
--
Warren L. J. Fox , E-mail: warren@apl.washington.edu
Applied Physics Laboratory, University of Washington
(206) 685-2125 or (206) 543-1300
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From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Another NS/FIP success story ... MAYBE!!!!!
Message-ID: <1993Sep13.144058.3766@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 14:40:58 GMT
Another NS/FIP success story ... MAYBE!!!!!
Was: Another NS/FIP success story ... NOT!!!!!
A few weeks ago I made a post about a problem I was having installing NS/FIP
3.1 on a "vintage" 1991 Gateway 2000. This was as far as the boot would get:
NeXT Mach Operating System
NeXT Mach 3.1: Thu Apr 29 23:44:40 PDT 1993;
root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-149.22.3.obj~2/RELEASE_I386
physical memory = 8.00 megabytes.
using 20 buffers containing 0.15 megabytes of memory
available memory = 5.64 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 2d3
ISA bus
Warning: Using internal backup device configuration tables
PCPointer Probe: mouseInit failure
Registering: PCKeyboard0
AT THIS POINT THE FLOPPY DRIVE LIGHT STAYS LIT AND THE BOOT DISK JUST
SPINS AND SPINS AND SPINS ...
From the many responses I received, it was determined that the keyboard
controller on the Micronics motherboard was to blame.
I recently received some information from Paul Jezioranski (psycho@bnr.ca) that
may be of interest to others in the same predicament. Paul had the exact same
problem with his "vintage" Gateway 2000 and replaced the 40 pin keyboard
controller BIOS chip. NS/FIP 3.1 then loaded with little difficulty!!! He
replaced his 8742 controller chip with a chip from another motherboard. The
replacemnt chip is an Intel 8042 with the following BIOS markings:
(c) 1985-90 AMI
KB-BIOS VER. F
MEGATRENDS
1988, Week 42
I plan to replace the keyboard controller chip in my "old" Gateway 2000 in the
next few weeks, if I can find a replacement. I've contacted Gateway and they
didn't have a clue as to what I wanted. I also called Smart Micro, a BIOS
supplier found in Computer Shopper, and they couldn't help either. My old chip
has the following markings:
Phoenix BIOS AKB
(c)Phoenix 1985-1990
C99813
I would like to hear from others who try this solution or have any more insight
on where to find a new keyboard controller BIOS.
Thanks Paul. Good luck everyone.
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual
or traditional: EXTREME
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From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: HP ScanJet IIc/p software
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 19:17:23 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Sep13.191723.28884@cyantic.com>
Is there scanner support in NS/FIP for the HP ScanJet family of scanners?
I have heard that HP just released a SCSI version of their scanners.
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anyone replaced the crystal in a NeXTstation?
Date: 13 Sep 1993 22:49:46 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <272tea$6vh@pith.uoregon.edu>
I've been peering around inside my 25MHz '040 NeXTstation for a while now,
and I'm wondering if it's possible to replace the 100MHz crystal with a
faster crystal. Aside from the potential garbage and extra heat generation
that might result, what kind of problems might I encounter? I'm mostly
concerned with the video sub-system. Since there seems to be only one
crystal, and everything else is timed off of that single little crystal,
will the video sync rates be a problem?
Has anyone ever tried this, or given it serious consideration? I don't
want to push my machine *too* far, but I'd like to try it and see what
might happen.
Thanks for any responses!
-jason
___________________________________________________________________
Jason Fosback, User Support Analyst | No sir, I didn't like it
---- University of Oregon ---- | -R&S
Internet: jfosback@oregon.uoregon.edu | Star Trek:
NeXT mail: jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu | The NeXT Generation...
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From: engelsma@birch.gvsu.edu (Ben Engelsma)
Subject: Which printer for NS/FIP?
Message-ID: <1993Sep13.190343.7416@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 19:03:43 GMT
Hi all:
I'm looking into buying a postscript printer for NS/FIP, real
soon. Could someone suggest a good buy ( i.e. what kind , how much
and where to get it )? Which ones are best supported? Do they come
with drivers?
Ben Engelsma
engelsma@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
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From: koelman@cuby.stc.nl (Ton Koelman)
Subject: Need help with IBM optical drive on 040 cube, please
Message-ID: <CDAIst.7rI@stc.nato.int>
Sender: usenet@stc.nato.int
Organization: SHAPE Technical Centre, NL
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 11:34:04 GMT
I've had no luck using an IBM 3510 128 MB optical
read/write SCSI drive on an 040 cube (see below).
Is this easy to fix?
thanks
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DISK UNFORMATTED
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
disk type: removable_rw_scsi
writing disk label
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1
No boot blocks on disk
---
Ton Koelman e-mail: koelman@stc.nato.int (NeXT Mail Welcome!)
SHAPE Technical Centre, P.O. Box 174, 2501 CD The Hague
The Netherlands (voice: 31-70-3142429, fax: 31-70-3142111)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca (Dennis S. Breckenridge)
Subject: Re: Installing NeXTSTEP with Toshiba 3401 CDROM
References: <1993Sep12.025546.6537@nic.csu.net>
Organization: "Alchemy Mindworks"
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 17:57:19 GMT
Message-ID: <CDB0JJ.1t9@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>
Distribution: usa
awong@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Adrian Wong) writes:
...
>reading the 3.5 floppy, I have followed the instuctions from installation
>guide to disable 5.25 drive and 1542B's floppy controller, still go nowhere.
>Will it be the CD drive problem or the disk is defective.
The original CD's I purhased with NS were covered with some kind of
sticky substance that "fogged" the readable side of the disk. I cleaned
it off with windex and my 3401 liked both disks after that. I have the
Adapatec 1542, Quantum 425S (Target 0), and Toshiba 3401 (Target 1)
drive as well.
I am having problems with MUSIC and PHOTO-CD disks. When the disks are inserted
into the drive, they are "probed" by Nextstep and ejected. Anyone seen this
one?
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Dennis Breckenridge Consider the benevolence of technology and the notion of
dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca progress in the world we live in. Where is balance?
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP 550c Performance
Keywords: color printer
Message-ID: <Sep.14.11.08.45.1993.667@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 14 Sep 93 15:08:45 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Does anyone out there use a 550c with NSi through the parallel port? How quick is the puppy? Also what software are you using? DOTS? Is DOTS invisible? That is once you install it, everything works as if you had a NeXT Laser Printer? Thats what I would like, to hook up a printer and use all of the standard NeXT tools for maintaining it.
Finally how is the output of the HP? It ought to be great with all of the Postscript Level 2 rendering that the NeXT is doing for it--Is it close to the quality of the Color NeXT Printer?
Thanks very much for any/all info (as you can tell Im looking into getting a printer for myself :)
Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pro Audio hot key?
Message-ID: <Sep.14.11.13.03.1993.1039@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 14 Sep 93 15:13:04 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
Ive stumbled on an interesting thing with the PAS 16 card that I have installed. Now its installed correctly and seems to work with no problems. The weird thing is when I press the Alt(command)-Ctrl-p sequence I get a staticy-voice type sound from the PAS. No bombs, no nothin, but everytime you do it the eiree voice comes out. At first I thought it was my modem auto-answering, but it is the PAS. Question is, does only happen for me?
Later, John
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Installing NeXTSTEP with Toshiba 3401 CDROM
Date: 14 Sep 1993 16:08:06 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <274q96$jln@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <1993Sep12.025546.6537@nic.csu.net> <CDB0JJ.1t9@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>
Dennis S. Breckenridge (dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca) wrote:
: awong@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Adrian Wong) writes:
: ...
: >reading the 3.5 floppy, I have followed the instuctions from installation
: >guide to disable 5.25 drive and 1542B's floppy controller, still go nowhere.
: >Will it be the CD drive problem or the disk is defective.
: The original CD's I purhased with NS were covered with some kind of
: sticky substance that "fogged" the readable side of the disk. I cleaned
: it off with windex and my 3401 liked both disks after that. I have the
: Adapatec 1542, Quantum 425S (Target 0), and Toshiba 3401 (Target 1)
: drive as well.
: I am having problems with MUSIC and PHOTO-CD disks. When the disks are inserted
: into the drive, they are "probed" by Nextstep and ejected. Anyone seen this
: one?
I can't get CDPlayer or photo-CD's to work with my 3401 either. I have
an Adaptec 1542C. I've made sure that the appropriate files are SUID'd and
that the public window server is enabled. I've also played around with
the SCSI ID of the CD (changed it from 1 to 2). My drive works fine otherwise
(with CD-ROM's), and even plays CD's nicely under Windows NT, so this is
probably a software problem.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
From: melora@squid.jpl.nasa.gov (Melora E. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hint mb and NS/I incompatible?
Date: 14 Sep 1993 16:49:38 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <274sn2$ejp@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov>
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I am posting this for a friend that can read but not post to the net.
Please send e-mail reponses to him (address at bottom of message).
Thanks
********************************************************************
Help!
I am trying to get NeXT/Intel to work on the following hardware:
Hint-3/486WB VESA/EISA motherboard with an 66MHz intel 486DX2
32MB of RAM.
ATI Graphic Ultra Pro with 2MB
Toshiba 1.2GB SCSI hard drive, as SCSI device 0
NEC CDR-74-1 CD ROM drive, as SCSI device 1
generic 1.44MB floppy, no 5 1/4 floppy installed.
Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller, FD controller disabled.
generic FD controller.
cheap Dexxa serial mouse.
SMC Elite 16 ethernet card
NEC 5FG monitor.
The SCSI is properly terminated, and all the base addressed and IRQs are
as required. Needless to say: DOS works fine.
When I try booting, the mach kernel seems to load OK from the floppy, then
I get:
mouseInit failure
it resets the SCSI and then says that sd1 is not ready (i.e. it can't seem
to read the CD ROM).
then I get some errors apparently related to the ethernet card:
class 'SMC16' not linked, couldn't find class 'SMC16'
class 'EthernetExpress' not linked, couldn't find class 'EthernetExpress'
then the killer:
root on sd1
rootdev 608, howto 0
panic (cpu0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
Raise RDP exception 6 code 3 subcode 0
waiting for RDP connection (type 'c' to continue)
typing 'c' just gives you "Raise RDP" etc. again and it hangs with the
floppy light lit.
I have tried ejecting the floppy at various points: same error.
I tried setting the SCSI id of the CD to 6: no joy.
I tried making the HD SCSI device 1 and the CD ROM device 0: this gave a
slight variation of the errors, but the same final result.
I know that some prople have gotten the HiNT motherboard to work ... but
if the problem is really a hopeless MB bug, I could get a NICE MB: but
would that work with my other hardware?! I have heard some failure stories
about NICE MBs as well.
I am in complete agreement with the poster some time ago who complained
that the hardware compatability guide is misleading: will somebody please
start a FAQ list of MB + "guide approved" hardware combinations that
work?! The guide makes it sound like they all will!
Meanwhile: Any ideas on what I might try next?
----> Stephen Morris
please respond to smorris@tweedledee.ucsb.edu
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From: David.Kelman@launchpad.unc.edu (David Kelman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Black Keyboards
Date: 14 Sep 1993 17:12:05 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <274u15$e4j@samba.oit.unc.edu>
I have a 25MHz slab, and certain keys on the keyboard are starting
to make an odd noise. I'm assuming that it is due to dust (the machine is
in a dusty area), and was planning on pulling up the noisy keys and
cleaning them. However, I'm wondering if this is a safe thing to do, as
in will they come up and will I get them back on again afterwards. Does
anyone have any experience in this? Thanks in advance.
David Kelman
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From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei)
Subject: scsi burnt out
Message-ID: <1993Sep14.175630.7105@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 17:56:30 GMT
After a bad crash one hot weekend...on boot, my NextDimension
sees an attached external scsi device with the scsi id which I set for that
device, but when I insert a CD ROM, it just whirs. Workspace Console reports
errors like "BUSY...RETRYING..." and gives up after about a dozen tries.
What's worse, after some swapping with another external scsi, it seemed that my
Cube may be shorting out external scsi devices.
1. What's the diagnosis?
2. Where's the best deal on NeXT repairs? (Phone, address contact?)
3. Where's the best deal these days on ND-compatible scsi cd rom and scsi
floppy drives. The cd rom must read Kodak Photo-CDs, too.
Any help would be much appreciated!
Sha Xin Wei
Stanford
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSi SCSI performance
Message-ID: <Sep.14.14.04.26.1993.13149@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 14 Sep 93 18:04:26 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Whats the deal with NSi SCSI performance? My Drive that used to read & write really fast on my black hardware is writing dog slow... Its writing around 430kps when it used to work around 800kps??? Also, my optical drive worked with no probs on my cube, but on the intel machine it bombs the system when Im copying large quantities of files back around the system.
Hmm, maybe its because I changed the SCSI id's AFTER I install NSi??? To install NSi I have the HD at SCSI0, the CD at SCSI1...After I install NSi I changed the HD to SCSI1, the CD to SCSI2, and added the OD at SCSI3.
I changed the HD & CD so there would be no problem with the CDPlayer.app (the ID problems it faces). Does NSi expect its equipment at certain ID's?
Later, John
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From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro)
Subject: Internal Hard Disk for NScolor?
Message-ID: <1993Sep14.182526.7908@adobe.com>
Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 18:25:26 GMT
Can anyone recommend specific makes and models of internal hard disks for a
NeXTstation color? I know the basic specs (3.5x1" form factor, 10 byte
read/write blocks, mode/sense, etc.), but I don't have any idea which
actual products these specs map to. I'm looking for 330 meg to 400 meg.
If you have such a drive in your machine, I'd appreciate a make and
model number (like Seagate ST1809 <-- I just made that up as an
example).
Please send e-mail, and I'll summarize. Thanks!
Perry
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From: ebaenen@tolkien.afit.af.mil (Eric Baenen)
Subject: NS/I on a notebook?
Message-ID: <1993Sep14.184603.29749@afit.af.mil>
Keywords: Gateway Nomad NS/i
Sender: news@afit.af.mil
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 18:46:03 GMT
This is my first time posting to Usenet so I hope this works...
Has anyone tried to load/use NS/I on a notebook? If so, what is your
opinion of its performance? How does NS/I work on 640 x 480 pixels (1024
x 760 or so pixels supported simultaneous external - but no graphics
accelerator)? I have a Gateway Nomad notebook (486 50MHz DX2, 200 MB HD,
8 MB of memory, SCSI adapter) that I would like to try and load NS/I on.
I have a fair amount of experience with NS on black hardware but am
ashamed to say I don't know much about NS/I. I do know that I am bloody
sick and tired of using DOS/Windows and Suns.
Also, I am trying to purchase a used 040 Cube and would like to purchase a
CDROM drive to work with BOTH systems... any suggestions?
______________________________________________________________________
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Air Force Institute of Technology
School of Computer Engineering
ebaenen@afit.af.mil
[NeXTmail very welcome]
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From: cmiller@CS.CMU.EDU (Craig Miller)
Subject: Installing NS on Gateway 2000
Message-ID: <CDCzvw.5IM.1@cs.cmu.edu>
Originator: cmiller@PHYTO.SOAR.CS.CMU.EDU
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 19:38:14 GMT
I'm interested in buying an Intel box for running NS. Looking over
previous postings and recommendations, I've been leaning towards a
Gateway 2000 Series V 66 DX/2 system. Even after reviewing numerous
posts, the hardware compatibility guide, NextAnswers, and talking with
a Gateway representative, I find that I'm *still* left with some
inconsistent and incomplete information. I would greatly appreciate
any help with these questions, or any other information useful in
buying a system for NS.
The Gateway representative seemed to think that I would need to buy a
SCSI hard drive and controller. He thought NS can't run off of the
hard drive that comes with the system (runs off the local bus). The
hardware compatibility guide doesn't mention this, neither do postings
from people who have successfully installed NS on Gateway 2000's.
Yet, NextAnswers configuration guide for Gateway notes (almost as if
in passing) that NS was installed on a SCSI hard drive. Do I really
need to buy the SCSI hard drive to run NS? Can't I just use
the drive (running on the local bus) that comes with the system?
I would like to have a modem that runs with NS. Mainly to login to
other systems from home. Gateway sells their Telepath modem with
their systems, but I have no idea if this will be compatible with NS.
Does anyone know? If not, what modems are compatible? I have found
nothing anywhere about modem compatibility.
The Gateway representative thought that the CD ROM supplied with the
system might now be supported by NS. I doubt it; I believe I still
need that SCSI CD ROM, right?
Thanks,
Craig
From: andrew@stone.com (Andrew Stone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NEXT Color Printer - too young to die?
Keywords: fritz
Message-ID: <1993Sep14.183232.2611@stone.com>
Date: 14 Sep 93 18:32:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: stone.1993Sep14.183232.2611
Sender: andrew@stone.com
Organization: Stone Design Corp
Just a couple hundred prints after getting my NeXT [Canon] Color printer,
it's already beeping for service.
Turn it on, it beeps 10 times, and then the message:
53 SERVICE
appears in the liquid crystal display.
Q1 Has anyone had this occur and fixed it on their own?
Q2 Has anyone had Bell Atlantic fix this & how much was it?
Thanks!
andrew
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From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Installing NS on Gateway 2000
Date: 14 Sep 1993 21:21:20 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <275ckg$gt0@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <CDCzvw.5IM.1@cs.cmu.edu>
In article <CDCzvw.5IM.1@cs.cmu.edu> cmiller@CS.CMU.EDU (Craig Miller)
writes:
#
#I'm interested in buying an Intel box for running NS. Looking over
#previous postings and recommendations, I've been leaning towards a
#Gateway 2000 Series V 66 DX/2 system. Even after reviewing numerous
#posts, the hardware compatibility guide, NextAnswers, and talking with
#a Gateway representative, I find that I'm *still* left with some
#inconsistent and incomplete information. I would greatly appreciate
#any help with these questions, or any other information useful in
#buying a system for NS.
#
#The Gateway representative seemed to think that I would need to buy a
#SCSI hard drive and controller. He thought NS can't run off of the
#hard drive that comes with the system (runs off the local bus). The
#hardware compatibility guide doesn't mention this, neither do postings
#from people who have successfully installed NS on Gateway 2000's.
#Yet, NextAnswers configuration guide for Gateway notes (almost as if
#in passing) that NS was installed on a SCSI hard drive. Do I really
#need to buy the SCSI hard drive to run NS? Can't I just use
#the drive (running on the local bus) that comes with the system?
The built in Local-Bus IDE harddrive works great. We have installed
NEXTSTEP on over 50 Gateway2000 4DX2-66V with 420M IDE drives without many
problems...
#I would like to have a modem that runs with NS. Mainly to login to
#other systems from home. Gateway sells their Telepath modem with
#their systems, but I have no idea if this will be compatible with NS.
#Does anyone know? If not, what modems are compatible? I have found
#nothing anywhere about modem compatibility.
#
The internal Telepath is not supported. At this time you need to go with an
external modem and most should work fine...
#The Gateway representative thought that the CD ROM supplied with the
#system might now be supported by NS. I doubt it; I believe I still
#need that SCSI CD ROM, right?
#
The "builtin" CD-Rom drive that Gateway supplies is not a SCSI device. It
is kinda, sorta an ide style drive, but even that is pushing it (especially
since you need to install the driver for it to work, even under DOS).
You will need to have access to an Adaptec 154x SCSI adapter and a SCSI
CD-Rom drive...
#Thanks,
#Craig
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From: jmeacham@clark.net (James D. Meacham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can a PC be used as Terminal on Slab
Date: 14 Sep 1993 21:34:57 GMT
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <275de1$c3o@clarknet.clark.net>
Hello!
I just bought a PC laptop (an old Toshiba 1000SE) and I was wondering if
anyone had any experience using a PC through a port as a terminal. I
don't have a modem for the PC yet, and even if I did it would be a pain in
the butt to call from one machine to the NeXT. So, does anyone have any
sugeestions on how, if it is possible, this would be accomplished?
Thanks in advance.
James Meacham
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From: carlos@thinkmuch.dolphin.com (Carlos Salinas)
Subject: Putting a boxed 21" color monitor in a car.
Message-ID: <CDD13G.69@thinkmuch.dolphin.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Sender: carlos@thinkmuch.dolphin.com (Carlos Salinas)
Organization: Deep Breakfast Productions
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 20:04:27 GMT
I'm planning on buying a car. One of my concerns is buying a car that I
can put my color monitor in.
Which cars can I put a NeXT 21" color monitor (in the box) into with room
to spare?
Thanks!
'Los
Use the shell Luke, succumb to the dark side of the cube.
But what's a "cube"?
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From: jcdavis1@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH CARL DAVIS)
Subject: Exception #3 on boot-up
Message-ID: <1993Sep14.145814.9692@ncsu.edu>
Keywords: HELP,HELP,HELP,HELP....!
Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: NCSU Project Eos
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 14:58:14 GMT
Hello netters:
I have a most un-simple problem - on boot-up, my NeXTStation kicks
out to the monitor with the message:
Exception #3 at 0x10002aa
If I then use the 'e 0x10002aa' command and then exit that command,
I get a message of
Exception #2 at 0x10003?? .
(I don't remember the last two digits)
Also, any access of the monitor brightness keys blanks the screen.
The screen is still functioning ( i can see faint outlines ), but
the screen is at minimum brightness. I have no idea if these two
problems are related.
Please, someone help me! I have a research paper to finish in a
few weeks and I NEED my computer!
thanks in advance.
jcd
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From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Fuzzy Mono 17" NeXT Monitor
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Sep15.004311.16189@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 00:43:11 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester
Greetings all,
Just picked up a couple of NeXT cubes and was wondering if anyone had ever encountered a problem where a 17" NeXT mono monitor was rather fuzzy. (and I mean fuzzier than an angora cat!)
Anyone have an idea how much it'll cost to get fixed via Bell Atlantic and how good is their turnaround time??
Thanks
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From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTStep 486 on Allur
Date: 15 Sep 1993 02:48:41 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <275vq9$eek@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
Ok all of you out there in net land, here is a question for you all
about trying to get NeXTStep to run on a 486DX (or DX2) Allur machine.
I am having trouble with the SCSI controller. I am going to try and
get a hold of this company and see if they know what might be up with
a specific SCSI controller.. but in the mean time...
I am trying to install NeXTStep (evaluation kit) 486 and during the
boot off the floppy, the system halts when it tries to reset the SCSI
bus...
any clues?
If anyone has any information at all
please e-mail me... before I am completely
bald ;)
Thanx!
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From: t89djo@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (David Jonsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Installing NeXTSTEP with Toshiba 3401 CDROM
Date: 14 Sep 1993 19:32:02 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <27567k$43o@corax.udac.uu.se>
References: <1993Sep14.004331.6564@nic.csu.net>
awong@springfield.SFSU.EDU (Adrian Wong) writes:
:
:
: Thank You. It worked now, but the mouse got stuck, it couldn't move
: after installation.
:
This happened to me to. I needed to install both the Serial Mouse driver
and the PS/2 Mouse driver to make it work although I have an ordinary
Serial Mouse.
NS/FIP is so strange, so strange...
David
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Micropolis 2217 in NeXT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 15 Sep 1993 04:56:12 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Message-ID: <27679c$rmc@news.doit.wisc.edu>
[Cross-posted to csn.hardware and csn.misc for coverage, but
followups set to csn.hardware.]
I heard recently about this hard drive, which is 1750MB
formatted, SCSI II, 10ms avg seek time, 5400 rpm, 300000 hr
MBTF, and $1295. Supposed to work fine in a Mac.
Anyone have one of these in a NeXT?
Anyone know for sure it would *not* work in a NeXT (I have
two (black) 040 cubes, running NS 3.1)?
All pertinent information welcome.
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From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Please Re-Think Using DPT 2012B Controller on Intel GX/Pro
Date: 15 Sep 1993 06:20:52 GMT
Organization: MCNC Center for Communications -- PUBLIC ACCESS UNIX
Message-ID: <276c84$1rm@inxs.concert.net>
One of my customers has had a lot of problems with the DPT 2012B Controller
on the Intel box - "it just doesn't work."
Both of us have been in contact with Intel's Customer Service Center (THEY
ARE EXCELLENT AS FAR AS SUPPORT AND INFORMATION) and Intel's position right
now is to use Adaptec's 1542C instead of the DPT. It appears to be a thermal
issue with the DPT card and DPT isn't really helping.
For more info, if necessary, please feel free to EMAIL.
Dave
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From: scorley@uswest.com
Subject: Printer Cable
Message-ID: <1993Sep14.230223.8995@advtech.uswest.com>
Sender: news@advtech.uswest.com (Radio Free Boulder)
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 23:02:23 GMT
Does anyone have any information on connecting a 68040 NeXTstation to a
NEC Model 95 Silentwriter printer? The NEC Model 95 has connectors for an
8 pin mini (RS-422, not RS-423), an RS-232, and a parallel Centronics
style connector. I currently have a Mac IICi connected to the printer and
it (the printer) can recognize Apple Talk just fine. I tried connecting an
Apple-style 8 pin mini cable from port A to the NEC and the NEC never
seems to get any print jobs. I think it has something to do with RS-422
versus RS-423 communication protocols.
Any ideas? I'm willing to wire my own cables if I have to.
Post answer here or send to me at: scorley@advtech.uswest.com
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From: nedi@nonmet.mat.ethz.ch (A. Mitterdorfer)
Subject: Hitachi VY-PE5000(E) Full Colour Video Printer
Message-ID: <CDDy4L.4Gt@bernina.ethz.ch>
Keywords: hitachi, video printer, colour, RGB
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 07:57:56 GMT
Hello,
has anybody ever tried to print colour pictures (.ps, .eps., ...) from a
NeXT on to a "Hitachi full colour video printer" (VY-PE5000(E))?
The following connections are possible:
1. Connection via analogue RGB interface board:
a) H.V. separate mode: 5 cables (R, G, B, HD, VD)
b) G signal overlap mode: 3 cables (R, G/S, B),
and
2. Connection via parallel data interface board (36-pin).
Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks
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Subject: cancel <garyt.748036401@lgc.com>
Message-ID: <1993Sep15.152057.8214@lgc.com>
Sender: usenet@lgc.com
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 15:20:57 GMT
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From: paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP Hardware Compatibility Guide: September 13, 1993 Edition
Message-ID: <CDCo4F.F8o@np.com>
Organization: NP Consulting, San Francisco
References: <272u98$hjq@digifix.digifix.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 15:24:15 GMT
In article <272u98$hjq@digifix.digifix.com> Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger) writes:
> NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3.1 FOR INTEL PROCESSORS
> Hardware Compatibility Guide
> September 13, 1993
>
[munch]
>
> AST
> Vendor Model name Bus CPU Graphics Architecture
> _____________________________________________________________________
> For AST Power Premium: see Add-On Graphics adapter chart
>
> (ATI Driver Update required)
> 486DX, 486DX2
> AST Premmia 4/d EISA 33 Mhz Localbus ATI 68800
> AST Premmia 4/d EISA 66 Mhz Localbus ATI 68800
>
Apologies if this question is stupid, but what exactly does "(ATI
Driver Update required)" mean? Does it mean that they are working on
it, or thinking about writing one, or it's available based on some
special request, or can be found in NextAnswers but not by me or ...?
Could someone clue me in please?
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From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP Hardware Compatibility Guide: September 13, 1993 Edition
Date: 15 Sep 1993 13:28:30 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9309151735.AA06736@seawolf.next.com>
Paul,
An additional driver from NeXT is required to support the AST
configuration WITH the resolution of 800x600 16-BIT COLOR. It will
be available via floppy from support, ftp or NeXTMail. It should be
available in the next few weeks.
Conrad Geiger
NeXT
From: paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP Hardware Compatibility Guide: September 13,
1993 Edition
Organization: NP Consulting, San Francisco
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 15:24:15 GMT
In article <272u98$hjq@digifix.digifix.com> Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM
(Conrad Geiger) writes:
> NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3.1 FOR INTEL PROCESSORS
> Hardware Compatibility Guide
> September 13, 1993
>
> For AST Power Premium: see Add-On Graphics adapter chart
>
> (ATI Driver Update required)
> 486DX, 486DX2
> AST Premmia 4/d EISA 33 Mhz Localbus ATI 68800
> AST Premmia 4/d EISA 66 Mhz Localbus ATI 68800
>
Apologies if this question is stupid, but what exactly does "(ATI
Driver Update required)" mean? Does it mean that they are working
on it, or thinking about writing one, or it's available based on
some special request, or can be found in NextAnswers but not by me
or ...? Could someone clue me in please?
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From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New ThinkPad 750 with ISA bus
Date: 15 Sep 1993 18:44:01 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Message-ID: <277nph$e5c@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
The new ThinkPad 750 looks even more impressive than the 720C. It's
smaller and lighter, has built in audio and a new dock. No, I don't work
for IBM, I just want to be able to run NeXTstep on the best laptop
available. The reason that NS wouldn't run on the 720C was MCA. Given
the ISA bus in the new system can anyone think of a reason why NeXTstep
shouldn't run?
Jay
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From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: Help please: trying to get 3COM Etherlink card to work
Message-ID: <CDEs0M.EA9@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
References: <CHRIST.93Sep3185929@park.bu.edu> <CCzrpv.JoE@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 18:34:59 GMT
We bought the AUI-TP combination and are using it with an AUI to BNC
transceiver - haven't tried the TP port.
We are however a little disappointed at the fact that it seems to
have some pretty serious problems acting as an NFS client to fast
machine like the SGI Iris - I saw numerous "NFS server ricci not
responding"/"NFS server ricci OK" messages while trying to compile
across the network. It was also *very* slow. I changed the "mount"
parameters to specify "rsize=1500,wsize=1500" and saw a tremendous
improvement in performance. Does this mean that we've made a big
mistake in our choice of Enet controller or will 3.2 handle the
controller better?
Thanks, Scott
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pro Audio Spectrum is crap under 3.1
Message-ID: <Sep.15.03.44.18.1993.18561@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 15 Sep 93 07:44:18 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Boy, this PC hardware makes me more and more appreciative of my black hardware. What can I say about the PAS 16 under NSi 3.1...IT STINKS!!! Its all configured right and if you record or play back any sounds of any decent length longer than 1 minute of 8khz mono 8bit sound (or the kilobyte equivelent in other recording rates) your system outright BOMBS!!!!
Here's the Next answers on this one kiddies:
"...
+ Playing or recording large 8kHz mulaw sound files can panic or hang a machine under Release 3.1.
+ Occasional dropouts (intermittent loss of audio) may occur during playback starting at 22Khz under heavy system load.
..."
In otherwords next doesn't promise that you'll get anykind of consistent sound. They also didnt promise to improve this for 3.2, so it may be best to wait for a while (if you can) before you get this thing. That is, unless others have had different experiences. Just my $.02.
Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI under NSi
Message-ID: <Sep.15.05.52.09.1993.20277@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 15 Sep 93 09:52:10 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
I just want to know if other people using SCSI controllers under NSi are satisfied with them? I have DPT card on an EISA system and I cant get it to work even close to how my black hardware works. Is anyone out there experiencing problems similar to:
If you copy lots of files at once from SCSI CDROM/OD to SCSI HD (or vice versa) the system crashes
If you start more than ONE background processes copying/deleting files, the system bombs.
Pretty much it seems like under NSi you cant do more than one thing at a time (involving SCSI I/O), nor can you do any movement of a great number of files without bombing the system.
BTW, my DPT is configured as suggested under NeXTanswers so its just the software being crappy.?.?
I would appreciate hearing your experience good or bad and what SCSI/MB combination you have.
Thanks, John
From: jan@carlstedt.se (Jan Stein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on a CAF Gold 6D2?
Date: 15 Sep 1993 11:21:27 GMT
Organization: Carlstedt Elektronik AB, Sweden
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <JAN.93Sep15132128@site_y.carlstedt.se>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi,
Is there anybody out there who has tried to use the CAF Gold 6D2 PC as
Nextstep machine? If so, did you have any problems? What kind of
configuration did you use?
Thanks,
Jan Stein
jan@carlstedt.se
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: looking for Bell-Atlantic phone number for NeXT service
Date: 15 Sep 1993 15:49:42 -0400
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <277rkm$33j@seine.cs.umd.edu>
could someone please mail me the phone number for Bell-Atlantic service
for black hardware?
--
Alex Blakemore alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Without an engaged and motivated human being at the keyboard,
the computer is just another dumb box." William Raspberry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: What would be the best Ethernet card to buy for ISA?
Message-ID: <1993Sep15.195441.11749@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 19:54:41 GMT
While there is not much of a choice in the matter, what would you all
recommend I get? 3c509 or Intel Etherlink (whatever it is)?
thanks,
greg
PS --
Please reply as quickly as possible as we are netless at the moment.
thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Fuzzy Mono 17" NeXT Monitor
Message-ID: <1993Sep15.202552.3167@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Sep15.004311.16189@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 20:25:52 GMT
In article <1993Sep15.004311.16189@rchland.ibm.com>
tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes:
> Greetings all,
>
> Just picked up a couple of NeXT cubes and was wondering if anyone had
ever encountered a problem where a 17" NeXT mono monitor was rather fuzzy.
(and I mean fuzzier than an angora cat!)
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce
Subject: NeXT-Hardware-Peripherals-FAQ
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Summary: Frequently Asked Questions about NEXTSTEP and NeXT machines.
Approved: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Expires: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-name: NeXT-Hardware-Peripherals-FAQ
Last-modified: Fri Aug 27 01:27:51 EDT 1993
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of answers to frequently asked questions in the comp.sys.next.*
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The FAQ list is broken into sections and posted separately. These
sections focus on various aspects of NEXTSTEP and NeXT machines. Items
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
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M1. What disk drives will work with the NeXT?
M2. How do I customize BuildDisk to create a bootable disk of my own
configuration?
M3. How much disk space is lost due to formatting and file system overhead?
M4. Can I run my SCSI-2 disks in synchronous mode?
M5. How do I configure my HP 660 to boot properly?
M6. What is the procedure for installing a Fujitsu M2263SA/SB SCSI Disk as
the NeXT Boot Disk?
M7. How do mount a corrupted OD that won't automount?
M8. What non-NeXT CD Players that work with a NeXT?
M9. What are some other sources of toner cartridges and trays for the NeXT
laser printer?
M10. What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with a NeXT?
M11. What can I do to prevent my NeXT printer from running all the time?
M12. What type of microphones will work with the NeXT?
M13. How do I connect a modem to the NeXT?
M14. Are there any alternative sources for the SCSI-II to SCSI-I cable
required to attach external SCSI devices to the 040 NeXTs?
M15. What fax modems will work with the NeXT?
M16. How may I attach more than two serial ports to the NeXT?
M17. What is the best and/or cheapest way to connect a NeXT to a thick
Ethernet?
M18. How can I connect my NeXT to the telephone line and use it like an
answering Machine?
M19. What color monitors can I use with the Color NeXT machines?
M20. Where can I get 13W3 to BNC adapters to connect third party color
monitors?
M21. How may I attach Centronics or 16 bit wide parallel ports to the NeXT?
M22. Why does an unused serial port consume cpu?
M23. How to adjust MegaPixel Display brightness and focus?
M24. How to set up the HP LaserJet 4M?
M25. My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - how to fix?
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: M23. How to adjust MegaPixel Display brightness and focus?
[From: Charles William Swiger <infidel@cmu.edu>]
I have adjusted several monitors with no problems, but make sure you
know what you are doing before opening anything. I expressly disclaim
responsibility for any ill results that may occur.
In order to adjust NeXT's MegaPixel display (called 'the monitor'
hereafter), you'll need (a) the NeXTtool (or a 3mm Allen wrench), (b) a
plastic adjustment tool (preferred) or a thin bladed screwdriver, and
possibly (c) a Phillips-head screwdriver.
(NB: A similar procedure will work for color monitors, but you should
either know what you're doing or you'll probably be better off letting a
pro deal with it.)
Turn off the computer. Disconnect all cables to the monitor. Look at the
back of the monitor. There will be 4 screws there; use the NeXTtool (or
Allen wrench) to remove them. Remove the plastic back of the monitor and
put it out of your way.
Reconnect the cables and turn the computer back on. As the machine
powers up, examine the back of the monitor. You'll see a metallic box
(usually silver, though some are black) surrounding the monitor's
vitals. This protects you against the dangerous voltages inside, and
also insulates the monitor from electromagnetic noise. On the back of
this box are several holes for performing adjustments. There are two
focus controls (labeled 'focus' and 'dynamic focus'), a brightness
control (labeled 'brightness' or possibly 'black level') and several
others that adjust various things like screen size and position.
Depending on the exact placement of the controls on the circuit board of
your specific monitor, some of these controls may be difficult (or
impossible) to adjust from the back. If this is the case, I will describe
what's necessary below. Otherwise, adjust the appropriate controls
using either an adjustment tool or a screwdriver. Be warned that a
screwdriver probably will cause some interesting video effects when
it enters the case. Ignore this the best you can, or find a plastic
adjustment tool, which is what you *really* should be using anyway.
Using a flashlight will help you see into the hole so that you can align
the business end of the tool correctly.
Focus and position controls are fairly obvious. Adjust them slowly
until you're happy with the results. Don't muck with anything you don't
need to; the factory settings are usually pretty decent.
To correctly adjust the brightness, follow this procedure: Turn the
brightness of the monitor all the way down using the keyboard. Adjust
the brightness control on the back of the monitor until a barely
noticeable picture forms. Then turn the brightness down a little so
this picture disappears completely. Check that you can get adequate
brightness by using the keyboard to brighten the screen. If the display
isn't bright enough, adjust the brightness control on the rear of the
monitor high enough so that the monitor display is adequate. Note that
you won't be able to dim the screen completely from the
keyboard...sorry.
Once you're finished, shut down the computer, take off the cables,
reattach the back of the monitor, and reconnect the cables. You're
done.
If the control you need to adjust proves to be difficult, you may need to
enter the metal case. This happened on one monitor's focus control and
another's brightness.
WARNING: THE VOLTAGES INSIDE THE MONITOR'S CASE ARE VERY DANGEROUS,
EVEN WHEN THE MONITOR IS OFF. BE VERY CAREFUL, OR YOU CAN SERIOUSLY
INJURE OR EVEN KILL YOURSELF. Do not perform the next instructions
unless you are confident that you know what you are doing.
You'll have to power off the computer again, and disconnect the cables.
Looking at the monitor from the back, notice a section of metallic
shielding on the right side of the metal box that extends to the picture
tube. This is where the flyback transformer is connected. It shields a
wire that is charged to about 25,000 V. DO NOT TOUCH THIS WIRE, IT CAN
SHOCK YOU THROUGH ITS INSULATION. Being very careful of this, remove
the metal case by unscrewing the Philip's head screws that hold the case
on. Don't touch the screws that hold the picture tube into the front of
the monitor's case.
Once you've gotten the metal box off, reconnect the cables. Figure out
what control you're going to adjust, and make sure that you can do so
without touching anything else inside. Again, *watch out* for the wire
that connects to the picture tube on the right side.
Power up the computer. I recommend that you use only one hand to make the
adjustment, and that your other hand be placed in your pocket (or
similar equivalent, if you're wearing clothes lacking pockets). This
precaution reduces the chances that you'll make a short circuit
between one hand, your heart, and the other hand-- a good idea. Perform
the necessary adjustment(s), being very careful not to touch anything
inside. Then shut down and reassemble the monitor, following the
directions given above.
Hopefully, these instructions will prove useful. Once again, please
be very careful...I don't want your death and/or injury on my
conscience (or a lawsuit, for that matter, either :-)
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: janna@reliant.bsd.uchicago.edu (& Ore Nugent)
Subject: FAQ for NS on an NEC UltraLite?
Message-ID: <1993Sep15.204116.7903@midway.uchicago.edu>
Keywords: faq, nec, ultralite, nextstep
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic & Public Computing
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 20:41:16 GMT
I heard a rumor that there might be an FAQ for running NeXTSTEP Intel on
NEC Ultralite portables; if this is true, could someone please send me the
location of said FAQ?
Thanks,
Janna Ore Nugent
Biological Sciences Division
The University of Chicago
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley)
Subject: A monitor for 1280 x1024x256 grays (for Compaq Qvision 1280/E) please
Message-ID: <scratch.748127060@mira.sce.carleton.ca>
Summary: What monitors support 1280 x 1024 x 256 shades of gray?
Keywords: Compaq Qvision 1280 1024 8-bit grayscale monitor
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 21:04:20 GMT
I want to run NeXTSTEP FIP using a Compaq Qvision 1280/E graphics
adapter to get 8-bit grayscale at a resolution of 1280 x 1024.
What monitors can I choose from? Does anybody know?
Thank-you. If people reply to me, I will post a summary in about
a week.
Craig Scratchley
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: llurch@marianne.Stanford.EDU (Rich Graves)
Subject: Re: PC LocalTalk card & NeXTSTEP or Unix
Message-ID: <1993Sep15.212404.22181@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <1993Sep14.085048.28917@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 93 21:24:04 GMT
Hi there, I'm the dorm network manager for said University.
What he really wants is to tunnel IP in LocalTalk from an Intel box running
some incarnation of UNIX.
He also needs to be able to get a dynamic IP address from a FastPath
gateway.
The only software I know of that can do anything close is the Farallon
PhoneNET PC MLID, but it's definitely DOS-only.
Please email anything helpful (or not), cuz I don't normally read any of
these groups.
Karl Robert Pfleger writes
> This seems like a longshot to me, but....
>
> I've got a PC AppleTalk/LocalTalk card and I live on a University
> campus where AppleTalk is run to the rooms and interfaced with the
> internet via Gator boxes or whatever.
>
> Is there any chance that I might get NeXTSTEP/Intel to use the LocalTalk
> card? I know the black NeXT hardware supports AppleTalk.
>
> Is there ANY Intel-based Unix that will support this card? It isn't on
> any compatibility list I've seen, certainly not NeXTSTEP or Linux, but it
> is a rather obscure item, and many Universities run AppleTalk only to
> many rooms (no ethernet), so I'm sure others out there have wondered the
> same thing.
>
> Thanx for any info.
>
> -Karl kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Subject: Faxing with US Robotics modems
Message-ID: <1993Sep15.220111.24908@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 22:01:11 GMT
Hi,
one of my colleagues just purchased a US Robotics Sportster 14.4 kbps fax
modem for his NeXT.
Is there a fax modem driver somewhere out there? or has/will/is someone
planning to write one?
--
------------------------------------------------------------------
Eugene Mah ----> eugene@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXT-Mail)
grad student/sys admin "For I am a Bear of Very
Department of Radiology Little Brain, and
University of Alberta Hospitals long words bother me."
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Winnie the Pooh
From: semonche@panix.com (Doug Semonche)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Replacing Slowest Component of ISA 486-33
Date: 15 Sep 1993 18:29:56 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <278514$h4q@panix.com>
As a hobbyist running NS/I on existing equipment, could anyone
advise me what would speed up things the most. NS runs very slow with
lots of disk activity before any thing selected happens.
Disk: two fast IDE drives (440 & 200); would placing the swap file
on the 220 or adding a SCSI disk via the Adaptec help? It's an ISA bus.
Memory: is 8 megs the culprit?
Video: not much I can change being ISA
CPU: or do I really need a 486-DX66
Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: garyt@lgc.com (Gary Thompson)
Subject: NEXTSTEP Intel install problem SOLVED!
Message-ID: <garyt.748106541@lgc.com>
Summary: don't use Sun's CDROM drives
Sender: usenet@lgc.com
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corp., Houston, Tx.
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 15:22:21 GMT
I had been having problems trying to install from a Sun (Sony CDU 8013)
CDROM drive. When the CDROM was on, the install would hang while
trying to register the floppy controller. If I disabled the drive,
it would work fine (except there was no longer a CDROM to boot from).
A message from Alex Keiblinger seemed to confirm this. He had
heard that Sun used a special BIOS which might be the source of
the problem.
I managed to borrow a Toshiba CDROM (from an HP) and it worked with
no problems. Hope this helps save someone a little frustration.
Gary
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Landmark Graphics Houston, TX Phone: (713) 560-1262 Fax: (713) 560-1277
"Vending machines SHOULD respond to a [finger] request with a list
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Subject: Re: Micropolis 2217 in NeXT
References: <27679c$rmc@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 14:10:37 GMT
Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn
Sender: news@pilhuhn.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn)
Message-ID: <CDEFDp.3Mw@pilhuhn.sub.org>
In article <27679c$rmc@news.doit.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess
Anderson) writes:
>
>
> I heard recently about this hard drive, which is 1750MB
> formatted, SCSI II, 10ms avg seek time, 5400 rpm, 300000 hr
> MBTF, and $1295. Supposed to work fine in a Mac.
>
> Anyone have one of these in a NeXT?
>
> Anyone know for sure it would *not* work in a NeXT (I have
> two (black) 040 cubes, running NS 3.1)?
>
Works fine in black hardware. However, gets pretty hot and is *very* noisy.
For any of those drives it is advisable to place another fan in the slab.
Otherwise the harddisk or/and the NeXT might die after some time.
--
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Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax +49-721-696988
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Germany jr@resy.kfk.de (>50K)
From: dcheslow@impact.flint.umich.edu (David A. Cheslow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: multiheaded intel nextstep?
Date: 15 Sep 1993 17:03:31 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <277ht3INNkvg@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
The NeXTCube used to allow for multiple monitors to be connected and act
as a single workspace. Is this possible using Intel hardware? Please
reply by e-mail if possible.
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The opinions espressed in this message are my own and may not
be shared by the University of Michigan - Flint
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School of Management, 344 CROB Phone: (313) 762-3309
University of Michigan - Flint Fax: (313) 762-3282
From: jcd@aladdin.aero.org (John C Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.misc
Subject: Apple CD-300 Does it work with NeXT 3.1
Date: 15 Sep 1993 17:02:49 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Message-ID: <277hrp$5ml@news.aero.org>
Keywords: CD-300,compatiable, NeXT 3.1
Does the Apple CD-300 work with NS 3.1? Also is there any way for the
NeXTto use the internal cd-rom on a Mac. I was planning on connecting a
Centris 610 to a NeXTcube using ethernet, will I be able to mount NeXT cds
on the Mac and have them appear on my shelf?
Thanks
John Davis
jcd@aladdin.aero.org
From: marcos@kaleida.com (Paul Marcos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fuzzy Mono 17" NeXT Monitor
Date: 15 Sep 1993 14:30:23 GMT
Organization: Kaleida Labs, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2778tvINN5k6@golden.kaleida.com>
References: <1993Sep15.004311.16189@rchland.ibm.com>
In article <1993Sep15.004311.16189@rchland.ibm.com>
tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes:
> Just picked up a couple of NeXT cubes and was wondering if anyone had
ever encountered a problem where a 17" NeXT mono monitor was rather fuzzy.
(and I mean fuzzier than an angora cat!)
>
> Anyone have an idea how much it'll cost to get fixed via Bell Atlantic
and how good is their turnaround time??
You know, if you take the back off of the monitor there's a little (really
little!) screw to adjust the focus. Mine was getting pretty fuzzy so I
just turned the little screw and now it's great. I'm no electronics
genius but I know that sticking little screwdrivers into the backs of
monitors can hurt you really bad if you're not careful. But this is a
simple process and can yield great improvements in your monitor. Just be
careful.
Paul
...................................................................
Paul Marcos NeXTMail appreciated
Kaleida Labs, Inc. marcos@kaleida.com
...................................................................
From: dario@cns.nyu.edu (Dario Ringach, x3941)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP!!! (with strange behavior of 17" color monitor)
Date: 16 Sep 1993 00:17:25 GMT
Organization: Center for Neural Science, New York University.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <278bal$8r7@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
My old 17" color monitor shows a strange behavior.
From time to time the picture seems to shrink in the horizontal
direction and then go back to normal. These "jumps" take less than
half a second. The total distorsion is small, I believe that the
shrinkage is around 1cm. These events can occur with frequencies
of 4/5 per minute. Has anyone observed this? What's going on!?!?
Thanks for any help/information.
---
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Center for Neural Science home: (212) 727-9346
New York University e-mail: dario@cns.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.printers
From: RSanson@massey.ac.nz (R.L. Sanson)
Subject: Re: cheapest postscript printers (color, non-color)
Message-ID: <CDFE1E.G78@massey.ac.nz>
Summary: RE: cheapest colour / non-colour postscript printers
Keywords: POSTSCRIPT PRINTERS
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
References: <1993Sep14.082020.28261@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 02:39:11 GMT
RE: cheapest colour / non-colour postscript printers
HP have just released their P1200C A4 size colour inkjet printer. It
has a postscript option. Not sure of the price of the Postscript
option, by the price is approx. NZ$3800 which is about US$2000.
Robert Sanson Dept. Veterinary Clinical Sciences
R.L.Sanson@massey.ac.nz Massey University, New Zealand
"Righteousness and peace kiss each other." Ps.85v10.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSi Installation Tips (Long)
Message-ID: <Sep.15.23.28.48.1993.9051@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 16 Sep 93 03:28:48 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Well I think I finally got things running smooth (touch wood), and I
thought I would offer some of my experiences to the net--maybe it
will help somebody out.
NSI tales of woe, may help you :-)
PEARLS OF WISDOM???:
1. If you can get one of the pre-configured NeXT blessed
systems...do it! In the short run this will be the easiest way to
get your system working. But that is a cop-out and you want to know
about all my troubles so that you may avoid them ;-)
2. I'm pretty sure that most motherboards can be made to work with
NSi. Even the "troublesome" HINT motherboards will probably work IF
(and boy is this a BIG if) your motherboards' jumpers and CMOS
settings are correct.
I think I sold off a perfectly good HINT EISA/VESA motherboard
because I had a CMOS setting set up wrong. The worst part about
setting up an Intel machine is that many times you will have things
configured improperly and the system will still 'kinda' work.
TROUBLE SHOOTING TIP #1:
If you have an ATI GUP card and you have gone through most of the
initial setup process, but once the Window Server runs your system
fails to connect--i.e. your system never gets to doing any graphics
on the screen.
This may be caused by an improper memory speed setting. Now you
can find the correct setting in your motherboard manual, but slower
memory speeds will always work. These memory speeds can be
configured in the motherboard CMOS software. Under AMI CMOS its the
'Advanced Chipset Options' that contain the memory speed settings.
I had this problem. The machine would work in non-turbo mode
(i.e. slow mode), but the window server would not run, or would run
poorly in 66Mhz turbo mode. I had the memory speed at faster, when
it should have been set to slower. Anyway, after doing this the
window server would come up with now problems. Incidentally, the
window server not booting was the problem I had with my HINT
motherboard, and I bet if I reset the memory speed it would have
worked.
Other tricky motherboard problems include correct jumper settings
for cache, clock speed (BTW, on some system you might be luck and be
able to set a 33/66mhz 486 to a 40/80mhz speed--this works for me
under DOS, but NSi bombs <sniff>). Open up the manual and go over
ALL the jumpers and what settings are correct.
TROUBLE SHOOTING TIP #2:
SCSI is a dirty word :) I know you've heard it before, but check
and re-check those SCSI connections. I had an Optical drive that had
some internal terminators I didn't know about and it was killing my
system. Like I said, these problems are subtle and I was able to
install NSi and even use it as long as I didn't do too many things
involving SCSI operations. So if your SCSI performance is 'sporadic'
(thats the best way to describe it), yet it still works, chances are
there is a termination problem somewhere. If you are not sure how to
find the terminators in you're SCSI devices here's a cheezy tip--call
1 800 555-1212 and ask for the telephone # of the manufacturer of
your drive. Then just ask where the terminator is. I did this with
my three drives and found the problem in about 20 minutes--Of course
if you have a manualwith all the terminator information, thats
better yet.
POSSIBLE GOOD CONFIGURATIONS:
The above video and SCSI problems seem to be the biggest problems
of otherwise 'seemingly' correctly configured systems. The next
biggest problem is correct IRQ, DMA settings. The easy rule of thumb
is, of course, don't let any settings overlap, but doing this and
getting things working can get quite involved. The best thing here
is to show you how I have things set up and why:
ATI GUP:
Nothing much more to do here. Just plugging the card in the VESA
slot should be most of the set up. Now some motherboards have jumper
settings for VLB slots that may be incompatible with what the ATI
expects. You have to check this out.
DPT 2012B/9X:
This card has LOTS of settings that have to be set via the Eisa
Configuration Utility that came with your motherboard. Here's a list
of what the settings should be:
Jumper Settings
Y20 (Floppy Disabled): on (optional, factory setting: off)
Y19 (Option ROM Size): off (factory setting)
Y4(Factory Use Only): off (factory setting)
Y23(Firmware ROM Size): on (factory setting)
If the DPT 2012 will be at the end of the SCSI chain retain the
terminating resistors on the card. Otherwise, follow the instructions
provided with the DPT 2012 to remove these resistors.
Use the EISA Configuration Utility (ECU) to set the following
values (taken from NeXTanswers):
ECU Settings
HARDWARE CONFIGURATION
Hardware Mapping
I/O Ports: Secondary/Disabled
Interrupt Number: 15 - Edge
Floppy Drive: Disabled
Option ROM: Enabled @ C8000h
HBA SCSI ID: 7
WD1003 EMULATION MAPPINGS
Drive 0
SCSI ID: Disabled
SCSI LUN: 0
Drive 1
SCSI ID: Disabled
SCSI LUN: 0
CONTROLLER PARAMETERS
SCSI Parameters
Maximum Transfer Rate: 10MB/s
External Cable Detection: Yes - MB/s
Command Queuing: Enabled
Command Timeout: Disabled
Cache Parameters
Cache: Enabled (Write-Back)
Max. Percentage Dirty: 80%
Max. Percentage Look-Ahead: 80%
Look-Ahead: Enabled (8 blocks)
Cache Threshold: 65535 blocks
Cache Parameters: Use Values Stored on Device
(NeXT's Quality Assurance group tested using this EISA
configuration file: !DPTA502.CFG Version: 005D)
SETTING OTHER DEVICE IRQ's & DMA's:
Keyboard: Leave that at IRQ 1
Floppy controller: should be at IRQ6, DMA 2--gotta check the
jumpers for this little bugger
Parallel port: at IRQ 7
Serial ports: at IRQ 3 & 4
Bus Mouse: at IRQ 5
Pro Audio Spectrum 16: at IRQ 11, DMA 6 (this is one of the few
settings that the PAS seems to like where the DMA channel is 16 bit
for better performance). Also, you should set the Sound Blaster IRQ
to 2, DMA 1. The PAS is really two boards in one, so its important
to make sure the other part of the board has correct settings.
SUMMARY OF IRQ's & DMA:
So this is our curret set up:
IRQ DMA
Keyboard 1
PAS (SoundBlaster part) 2 1
Serial ports 3
4
Bus Mouse 5
Floppy controller 6 2
Parallel port 7
PAS 16 11 6
DPT 2012B/9X 15 5
This leaves you with one more 16bit DMA channel (namely channel
7). It also leaves IRQ' 8-10, 12-14.
GOOD SCSI ID SETTINGS:
Optimal SCSI settings AFTER having installed NSi are: Main HD at
SCSI ID 1, CD ROM ID 2, other devices ID 3-7.
The reason for putting the HD & CD ROM at 1 and 2 are that then
the CD Player App will work properly and you'll be able to put an
'Emergency' recovery HD at SCSI ID 0 and boot before your regular
drive, thus, allowing recovery from crashes etc...
OTHER GOOD HINTS:
When doing the initial setup, choose the minimal set of drivers
to just get things installed. For instance, do NOT plug in the
ethernet, audio and other extra drivers. Also, DO NOT put in these
devices until AFTER you initially install NSi. These seemingly
dormant cards can really screw up the installation process. Only
after NSi is loaded successfully should you then install your cards
and after that configure your system for the cards.
The same holds true for SCSI devices. If you have OD's or other
SCSI devices, do NOT plug them in until NSi is installed. For
installation you should have only and HD @ SCSI ID 0, and a CDROM @
SCSI ID 1.
FINALLY, POSSIBLE NSi 3.1 DEFICIENCIES:
PAS cannot play or record sounds of any appreciable length. NeXT
claims that sounds larger than 5 megs (or 10 minutes of 8bit MULAW
mono sound--or its kilobyte equivalent @ different sampling
frequency) will bomb the system. My experience, which was somewhat
confirmed by a NeXT techy was that sounds longer than 30sec-60sec
tend to bomb the system. NOW THIS REALLY STINKS!!!! Not so much
for not playing the sounds; that will probably be fixed by 3.2. It
stinks because the crash is EXTREMELY violent in most cases--so
violent that FSCK will often puke and ask you to run FSCK manually.
If you then do an FSCK -y you will see many valuable files get
deleted. In other words avoid using the sound if you can, it can
cause MAJOR damage to your OS.
Also, the SCSI writing and/or reading speeds have gone down with
NS 3.1 on both intel and black hardware. Case in point: I have a
Segate Wren VIII that used to get a bench mark of about Read: 0.8,
Write: 0.8 with the DrivePerformance.app on my black hardware. Now,
after installing 3.1, it is Read: 0.6, Write: 1.0. Interestingly,
NSi gives the opposite result (and on the DPT everything should be
MUCH faster). On the Intel box I get a Read: 1.2, Write: 0.6. This
is all with the same exact Hard Drive!!! These drivers are bogus,
but NeXT says that nothing is wrong as far as they can see...
SEE YA, SEE YA, HOPE YA HAVE A REAL NICE DAY :)
Anyhow, enough griping, I hope the above info helps out other
people in the same boat.
BTW, this system is on a NICE SUPER EISA Rev 1 motherboard. I
have 2 systems working with NSi with the above set up.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL THOSE BRAVE SOULS DOING NSi SETUPS!!! :-)
& Remember the endproduct is worth it!!!
Later, John
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From: norm@enel.ucalgary.ca (Norm Bartley)
Subject: NeXTSTEP/Intel and Tseng ET4000
Message-ID: <Sep16.040233.16446@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 04:02:33 GMT
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Greetings, and help!
Does anyone have any experience with NeXTSTEP/Intel configurations
based on Tseng Labs ET4000 video?
My machine is a generic 486DX2/66 with VESA Localbus, using an ET4000
VESA Localbus video card. Examination of the card reveals that it
indeed has an ET4000AX VGA chip, so I should hope to achieve a 1024x768
2-bit monochrome display (according to the Compatibility Guide). What I
get is three horizontal-overlapping areas with three narrow workspace
managers, three slim application docks, and three mouse pointers. Vertical
resolution looks right. Flickers like crazy. Fiddling with jumpers on the
card does not improve things. There appears to be no opportunity to
tweak the NeXTSTEP ET4000 driver.
I have graduated from NetBSD/XFree86, where things worked perfectly
at 1024x768 and 256 colors.
I'm currently using the default VGA mode with giant icons.
Any tips? Would appreciate response by e-mail; I will post my findings
if there's sufficient interest.
Thanks in advance,
Norm Bartley, norm@enel.ucalgary.ca.
From: burton@pion (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: OD has no more alternates for remap -- should I worry?
Date: 16 Sep 1993 05:14:51 GMT
Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics
Message-ID: <278sob$mt6@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
I have a NeXTcube with the Canon MO drive at home, and I have one disk that
I commonly use as a hard-drive extender; that is to say, I have several
hundred links from, e.g., /LocalLibrary/Literature/More over to
/MoreDisk/Library/Literature, and so on for nearly every other directory
that has `low-priority' goodies that can live on the removable medium.
This gives me lovely transparent access to the extra quarter gig of files,
but of course it means that ol' /MoreDisk gets a lot of use.
For the last six months my drive has been slowly getting flaky, in the
canonical pattern described in the FAQ's. First a few ECC errors, then a
lot, and finally last week a spin-up/spin-down lockup. Figuring that slow
dust accumulation was the culprit (my fan blows the right way, and the room
isn't really very dusty, but in four years who knows what can accumulate?),
I shelled out for one of the head-cleaning gadgets from Bell Atlantic. This
is a little cartridge that mates with your OD slot and then cleans the lens
manually; it's part number S3901, and you can order it at (800)499-6398.
Anyway, after cleaning my drive unquestionably sounds happier, and I don't
seem to get any more long runs of error-correction glitches. However (and
here we come at last to my question) there have been a few messages in the
console since the cleaning of the following stripe:
od0a: write failed (no more alternates for remap!) block 157152 phys block 158992 (14086:0:0)
od0a: write failed (no more alternates for remap!) block 157152 phys block 158993 (14086:0:1)
What does this mean? Reads and writes seem to work just fine, so I don't
know how to interpret the `write failed' complaint. It sounds as though
there are a certain limited number of spare blocks available for remapping
logical blocks to in case bad spots develop on the disk, and I squandered
all of them in the pre-cleaning days when read errors were coming fast and
furious. Is this in fact what is going on? If so, and assuming that the
cleaning cured the fundamental problem, can I get my lost sectors back
without rebuilding the disk? I have a full backup, but restoring 213 MB of
data from one oppy to another with a single drive, even using dd and big
packets, is going to be like kicking dead whales down the beach. Is there
an easier way? What will happen if I just ignore the console errors?
Thanks in advance. Please reply by email; I'll summarize.
It is not enough to succeed. |=================================================
Others must fail. | Joshua Burton (401)435-6370 burton@het.brown.edu
-- Gore Vidal |=================================================
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From: kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger)
Subject: Re: NSi Installation Tips (Long)
Message-ID: <1993Sep16.052212.26797@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
References: <Sep.15.23.28.48.1993.9051@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 05:22:12 GMT
In article <Sep.15.23.28.48.1993.9051@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>PEARLS OF WISDOM???:
>1. If you can get one of the pre-configured NeXT blessed
>systems...do it! In the short run this will be the easiest way to
>get your system working. But that is a cop-out and you want to know
>about all my troubles so that you may avoid them ;-)
I've heard this a few times, but it raises the following issue for those
of us in academic land:
What kind of discount off of the price of buying NSi shrink-wrapped do
the system prices of systems with it preinstalled generally reflect?
The list price for the user + developer full OS is around $2000, right?
How much of the total price being paid for bundled systems is going
towards the OS software itself?
Academic pricing on NSi is $250 for user + developer. Do any of the
vendors shipping prepackaged systems also have academic pricing? If not,
installing it oneself, despite the headache, could be quite a bit cheaper.
-Karl kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu
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From: disney!monty (Montgomery Zukowski)
Subject: How to replace fuse on Next printer?
Message-ID: <1993Sep15.131933.4782@its.com>
Sender: monty@its.com
Organization: Information Technology Solutions
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 13:19:33 GMT
My printer's dead and I can't find the fuse. Hopefully that is
the problem. Since there is no on off switch it is hard to tell if it is
the printer or the computer.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Monty
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From: bbrown@solana.com
Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 Does it work with NeXT 3.1
Content-Type: text/plain
References: <277hrp$5ml@news.aero.org>
Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (Rob Chesler)
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Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 06:36:54 GMT
Message-ID: <bbrown.93Sep1663654@ganesha>
Distribution: fj
Hi,
I have a CD-300 hooked up to a DEC MTE d2 running 3.1. It's working great.
Bill
bbrown@solana.com
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From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin)
Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 Does it work with NeXT 3.1
Message-ID: <1993Sep16.131711.22515@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news)
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
References: <277hrp$5ml@news.aero.org>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 13:17:11 GMT
In article <277hrp$5ml@news.aero.org> jcd@aladdin.aero.org (John C Davis)
writes:
> Does the Apple CD-300 work with NS 3.1?
Yes, it certainly does. I did my NS3.1 upgrade from the CD-300, and have been
happily using it with NS3.1 ever since. You can also read the files in the
multimedia and PhotoCD demo disks that come with it, although you can't
actually render the pictures etc without additional software. For music CDs,
CDPlayer.app works! The music comes out of the CD-300's headphone socket, not
the NeXT's headphone socket. The CD-300 uses the big SCSI connectors.
Depending on your setup, you might need a terminator, and a cable that will
connect between the small SCSI connector on the NeXT and the big SCSI connector
on the CD-300. Suitable cables are usually (and incorrectly) called
SCSI1-to-SCSI2 connectors. This is incorrect nomenclature because SCSI1 and
SCSI2 actually refer to the bus characteristics, and not to the type of
connector, but the nomenclature has apparently been borrowed for convenience.
I got a suitable cable made for Sun machines, as it was the cheapest.
----------------------------------------------------
W.F. Clocksin, Assistant Director of Research,
Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge
Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K.
Internet: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (NeXTMail is acceptable)
Tel UK: (0223) 334628. Tel (Int'l): +44 223-334628.
Fax UK: (0223) 334678. Fax (Int'l): +44 223-334678.
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From: yoda@cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Intel install problem SOLVED!
Sender: news@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (News System)
Message-ID: <CDI86E.I6r@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 15:25:26 GMT
References: <garyt.748106541@lgc.com>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
In article <garyt.748106541@lgc.com> garyt@lgc.com (Gary Thompson)
writes:
> I had been having problems trying to install from a Sun (Sony CDU 8013)
> CDROM drive. When the CDROM was on, the install would hang while
> trying to register the floppy controller. If I disabled the drive,
> it would work fine (except there was no longer a CDROM to boot from).
>
> A message from Alex Keiblinger seemed to confirm this. He had
> heard that Sun used a special BIOS which might be the source of
> the problem.
>
> I managed to borrow a Toshiba CDROM (from an HP) and it worked with
> no problems. Hope this helps save someone a little frustration.
Yep, I had exactly the same problem, the CDROM from our sparc didnt
work, anouther one (dont remember what it was ) did work.
We spend over one day to figure that out...
--
Marc Guenther
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can a PC be used as Terminal on Slab
Message-ID: <CDFCpC.28C@infoserv.com>
Date: 16 Sep 93 02:10:24 GMT
References: <275de1$c3o@clarknet.clark.net>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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In article <275de1$c3o@clarknet.clark.net> jmeacham@clark.net (James D.
Meacham) writes:
#Hello!
#
#I just bought a PC laptop (an old Toshiba 1000SE) and I was wondering if
#anyone had any experience using a PC through a port as a terminal. I
#don't have a modem for the PC yet, and even if I did it would be a pain in
#the butt to call from one machine to the NeXT. So, does anyone have any
#sugeestions on how, if it is possible, this would be accomplished?
#Thanks in advance.
#
#James Meacham
#
#
I did it on my cube for a while.
All you need is a serial cable from the PC to the NeXT and terminal emulation
software on the PC.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Fuzzy Mono 17" NeXT Monitor
Message-ID: <CDFCu3.29u@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Sep15.004311.16189@rchland.ibm.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 02:13:15 GMT
In article <1993Sep15.004311.16189@rchland.ibm.com> tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
(Tom Gall) writes:
#Greetings all,
#
# Just picked up a couple of NeXT cubes and was wondering if anyone had ever
encountered a problem where a 17" NeXT mono monitor was rather fuzzy. (and I
mean fuzzier than an angora cat!)
The monitor has a focus adjustment. I've done it.
In the FAQ I think there are instructions to do adjustments.
Kent
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From: stephane@planon.qc.ca
Subject: Welcome to the world of horrors (Intel 486)
Message-ID: <1993Sep15.210719.502@CAM.ORG!planon>
Sender: stephane@CAM.ORG!planon
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 21:07:19 GMT
I hate dos, I hate windows. I never liked the Intel based machines which
where designed to run those software.
When NeXT announced they will port their OS to Intel based computer I
didn't care. That was not for me anyway. I was happy with NeXT hardware
and saw no need for me or my customers of that port.
However, in February, NeXT has stopped producing hardware and all of a
sudden I had no choice but to look toward an Intel based computer to run
NEXTSTEP.
After seeing some machine running NEXTSTEP at NEXTWORLD expo in May, I
though, well, this is not so bad after all. Maybe the problem was really
not with the hardware, after all, but it was MS product that is the base
of the problem.
Of all machines running NS/I at the expo the one which seemed the best
integrated and the one which had the fastest graphic was the Epson NX. I
then decide that this would be our first NS/I computer.
I then had to wait more than 3 months for Epson Canada to be able to sell
me one (we are NeXT gold reseller) because their structure was not ready
until last week!
The machine arrived Monday. The only one they had in stock is a Epson NX
486 DX/2 66MHz, with a 240MB IDE drive and an ethernet board. No SCSI
board, but NEXTSTEP user environment pre-installed (and
MS-DOS/MS-Windows). The original setup had been pretty easy (except than
you have to activate the network board. It does look a lot like NEXTSTEP
on black hardware but...
-When you insert a floppy, you have to ask the computer to check if a
floppy is there.
-When you tell NS to eject the floppy it tell you "Its now save to eject
the floppy" and then you have to eject it manually!
-When you copy files from an HD to the Network the rest of the machine is
almost frozen for the duration of the operation!
These seemed to be minor issue, but I don't like it.
I hate Intel-based computer. Please give me an alternative.
Stephane Savard
Director R&D
Planon Telexpertise Inc.
1370 Joliot-Curie #708
Boucherville, Qu bec
Canada, J4B 7L9
Email: stephane%planon@CAM.ORG (NeXTmail accepted and appreciated!)
From: labwm@slab.cc.emory.edu (William Morse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ALR Evolution V Review (Part I) (LONG)
Message-ID: <4990@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
Date: 16 Sep 93 14:57:21 GMT
Sender: news@emory.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
INTRO:
This is Part I of a planned two part review of ALR and their new Pentium
computer, the Evolution V. This part will focus on ALR itself and specifically
examine their customer service and technical support. Why bother to review
this? Because I firmly believe that how the company behaves towards you, as a
customer, is at least as important as how the hardware behaves once you get it.
After all, you may very well be dealing with them for the life of your computer.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
IN SHORT:
My experience with ALR (the company) has been almost a nightmare. Without a doubt,
this company is the most unprofessional "I don't care" company I have ever dealt
with. They made mistakes in my order and told me outright that they weren't going
to do a thing about it. This despite the fact that I stood to lose a significant
amount of money because of their error. Anyway, it was very apparent that they
care much more about corporate accounts and not individual buyers.
They have been losing money lately and, after my experience with them, it
is easy to see why. My dealings with FastMicro seemed like a walk through the park
in comparison.
If you want an ALR Evolution V (which is a good computer, by the way) then buy
it through a VAR like Alpine or one in your local city. Unlike ALR, these people
probably will care about you and won't make mistakes. You may pay a little bit
more, but believe me, it will be worth it.
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REVIEW:
I will review ALR's customer service through a narrative. But first, a little
background on me: I am not a demanding or "nasty" customer. I realize
that there are delays, etc. For example, when FastMicro was a month late with a
computer I ordered a few years ago, it did not bother me much... I expected it.
They told me they would call when they actually sent it out and they did. But,
what happened with ALR was very different. Anyway, I am a Consultant for Emory
University's Information Technology Division. I am aware of nasty folks and
I don't like 'em. Thus, I don't act like that myself.
What I needed this computer for was to supplement my NeXTStation Turbo for a
legal project I am working on. I am a 3L at Emory Law so I don't have "tons"
of cash... Anyway, here is the story of my purchase of an Evolution V Pentium.
-----
I ordered an Evolution VQ at the end of July. I had already spoken to their
tech. support folks about NeXTStep and they are fairly knowledgeable about
the product. They told me that they had managed to boot NS on both their
Evolution V and VQ. They also told me that some of cards they tried did not
work and it took a bit of "tweaking" to find a card combo that worked.
I was impressed. When I had contacted Dell and Compaq, their sales folks had
no idea what NS was and only Dell could connect me to someone who at least
knew of NS. But, ALR was different. The sales rep. was knowledgeable and
connected me right away to tech. support. There, the engineers walked me
through both their torment and eventual success in getting NS to install.
I ordered a VQ two days later after reviewing the faxed specs.
One thing bothered me, though. Both the sales rep. and the tech. people
kept pushing the Evolution V desktop. In fact, they bent over BACKWARDS
trying to get me to purchase that machine. When I said no... that I wanted
a VQ, they actually got *offended.* I chalked it up to the fact that they
did not have the 66 Mhz Pentium chips yet... so my order could not be
presently processed.
I knew that ALR did not have 66 Mhz Pentiums at the time I placed my order.
however. The sales rep. had been quite clear that he did not know when
the chips would arrive... But, he did speculate that the machine would be
in my hands by the end of September. That was fine with me.
I did tell him to call as soon as the machine shipped... and he said he would.
Indeed, I STRESSED the fact that he should call... and I told him why. The reasons
were: 1) I was paying COD and had to cut the cashiers check; and, 2) I was not buying
any of the support cards from ALR. I wanted them ordered at the time the machine
shipped so that I would have the maximum 30 days return period to test
everything out. (All the support cards came to about 1/3 the price of the
machine.) If any of the cards didn't work or I couldn't get the computer
to boot... I could return everything from where it came.
I was surprised when, 1 week later, a woman from ALR's shipping department
called saying they were going to ship the computer within one day. To make sure
everything was right, I had her read back the order. It was correct - VQ/66.
Thinking back, the salesrep had said the chips (66 Pentiums) could be in any
day... so I accepted it. I ordered all the cards and cut the check.
Much to my surprise, the machine did not arrive on the anticipated day. I called
ALR. After about two hours, I reached my sales rep. He said he would call me back.
He never did. I called him 2 hours later and waited another 30 minutes on the
phone. When I got in touch with him... he said that nothing was shipped and
the VQ/66 was due in one month. He said that there had been an error in the
shipping department. I was a bit shocked... so I explained that I had already
bought the cards (they had all arrived) and cut a check. I told him my 30 day
clock was ticking. He said he would call right back and he would correct the
situation.
At this point, I was not angry. He had given me excellent service before... why
would thing change now. Unfortunately, they did.
The sales rep. never called back. I called him and he said, "oh... I forgot. I
told my boss about you though. He should call you back within 30 minutes."
So, I waited... another 2 hrs with no phone call. I called back and the sales rep.
said... "Sorry, time for me to go home. I will talk to you tomorrow."
I asked for the boss's name and the sales rep. gave it to me.
I then called the boss. The man had no idea who I was. I told him my story. He
said he was "sorry about that" and that the VQ/66 would arrive here at the end
of Sept. If I wanted, I could take an Evolution V. He gave me a sales pitch. I
said I wanted a VQ/66 and offered three suggestions.
1) They could get a Pentium 66 and send me the VQ/66 now. I told him that
I did not expect ALR to do that and he said, "Good, because ALR won't."
2) I next suggested him guaranteeing to accept a return of the cards I bought
if they did not work. ALR carried all of them so I thought this was at
least a possibility... but he said, "Strike two."
3) I next suggested what I thought was the best solution. Send me a VQ/60
and then swap motherboards with the VQ/66 when the chips arrive. He said,
"That would be too much trouble with serial numbers. I won't do that."
I told him I could go to another vender. He laughed at me and said, "Good
luck. You won't be able to find another Pentium anywhere except from us."
Unfortunately, he was right too. I had already tried. Plus, no other
Pentium had a VL-Bus... which the ATI card required.
I told him that as a consultant with Emory U., I had power to recommend
or not recommend products and I wanted to recommend his, but... He
interrupted me and said, "What's Emory? I don't care."
I mentioned that I was very involved with the NeXT community both here
in Atlanta and on the Internet. He said, "We got the NeXT community
cold. They trust us. We got corporations lining up to buy from us. No
one is going to listen to you."
I told him he had an obligation to make things right - the world "legal" was
never used. (Actually, he did use it. The concept is known as "reliance" in
contracts. I relied on ALR's promise of delivery and they failed to
deliver.) He became *irate* and said "Sue me, I dare you." He used
profanity with ease.
At this point, I became angry. As a trained soon-to-be-lawyer, I try
never to loose my cool. And, I didn't either... I just let my roommate
finish the conversation. I left the room.
In all my years, I had NEVER been treated by a computer company this way.
But, he was right: they had me. No other Pentium was available for at least
two months. No other Pentium had a VL-Bus... So, my choices were:
a) send back all cards with a 15% loss, b) keep the cards
I could and only send back the $500 ATI with a 15% loss and take my
chances with the rest, or c) order from ALR and get a lesser computer than
I ordered...
I chose c. I did not have the money to play the high ground. But, I
ordered the Evolution V instead of the VQ. Why? The VQ was a $2000 premium
over the V.
Unfortunately, my torment was not over. It took me 4 hours to get through
to my sales rep. I thought this time delay most strange. When I was ordering,
I was always patched right through... but now? I told him *very politely* to
send me the V and everything would be ok. He said he would get a quote
and call me back. I asked for next day air. He said he would give me that
for free. Things were looking up.
But, he did not call me back. So, 2 hours later I called him. He said that
he could have it to me no later than... Monday or Tuesday. It was
a Friday and that was fine. He told me the price. I went and recut the
check.
On Monday, the computer did not arrive. On Tuesday, it did not arrive. I called.
I was passed to customer service. They said that they had sent it ground on Tuesday
and that it would be here in one week.. maybe Wed. next week. I was further told
that, "You have to understand, big accounts come first." It had now been 2 full
weeks since the VQ was due to have arrived.
I could not believe this. Knowing that sugar is always better, I told her
nicely to accelerate the package and I asked for the shipping number. She didn't
give me the number and she said she would call me back. She also told me that
acceleration would "cost extra." I told her, "No, it won't."
She did not call me back. So, 45 minutes later I called her. She said the computer
would be here on Thursday. It was Tuesday so I had to live with that.
I called the shipping company myself and they said no one from ALR had called
and no acceleration was done. I again called ALR and, while I waited, she did
it.
The package arrived on Friday.
*After reading this over, I can tell you that this narrative does not come close
to conveying what it was like to deal with ALR. I only hope this saves some
of you the torture I went through. If you must buy an ALR, use a VAR!
END OF PART I. LOOK FOR A TECHNICAL REVIEW SHORTLY.
From: tcarr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Moving my station and ex.-drive
Date: 16 Sep 1993 15:38:04 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <27a18s$6ef@news.acns.nwu.edu>
I'm moving to a new city and the computer is getting first class
accommodations on a moving van. Are there any extra precautions I can take
to protect my slab and external drive other than packing them in the
original cartons? On PC's I've "parked" the harddrive before moving the
machine; is this possible to do with my drives?
Thanks, Tom
--
************************************************************************
Thomas W. Carr tcarr@nwu.edu (not NeXTmailable)
Dept. of Engineering Sciences & Applied Mathematics office# 708-491-3345
Northwestern University, Evanston, Il 60208 fax# 708-491-2178
From: randyc@panix.com (Randy Clyde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hewlett Packard pa risk platform?
Date: 16 Sep 1993 13:31:23 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <27a7tb$737@panix.com>
Summary: Information request on status of Hewlett Packard ppa risk port
Keywords: Hewlett Packard risk workstation
What is the status of the Hewlett Packard pa risk port for NeXTstep?
Last I heard it was scheduled for 2nd qtr 1994 --- with possible earlier
release. Is this still the official/unofficial target?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: What is in NeXT 8MB upgrade N7011
Message-ID: <1993Sep16.165847.27458@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 93 16:58:47 GMT
I have a monostation 25MHz with 8 1MB simms in it. I am looking at
a third party equivalent to the N7011 8MB upgrade from a "used-to-be"
authorized NeXT re-seller. Does anyone know what simms are in this
upgrade. I assume this will give my machine 16MB but are they 8x2MB or
4x4MB?
Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon)
Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 Does it work with NeXT 3.1
Message-ID: <CDGM06.36M@lotus.com>
Sender: news@lotus.com
Organization: Lotus Development
References: <277hrp$5ml@news.aero.org>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 18:28:51 GMT
In article <277hrp$5ml@news.aero.org> jcd@aladdin.aero.org (John C Davis)
writes:
> Does the Apple CD-300 work with NS 3.1? Also is there any way for the
> NeXTto use the internal cd-rom on a Mac. I was planning on connecting a
> Centris 610 to a NeXTcube using ethernet, will I be able to mount NeXT cds
> on the Mac and have them appear on my shelf?
>
> Thanks
> John Davis
> jcd@aladdin.aero.org
John,
The external Apple CD 300 works just fine with NS 3.1 on NeXT hardware (I
imagine that it works just fine on NS/Intel as well). Every CD-ROM disk format
that I've tried with the drive has worked -- NeXT, Macintosh, DOS, ISO 9660,
High Sierra, Audio, photoCD.
The only way I can think to access a Macintosh internal CD-ROM drive is to have
AppleShare on your Mac and buy IPT Partner Plus for your NeXT to allow your
NeXT to mount AppleShare volumes. Even if you did that you'd still be
restricted to CD-ROM formats that the Macintosh could grok. I don't think that
it could successfully mount a NeXT-formatted CD-ROM.
--bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wfc@cl.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin)
Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 Does it work with NeXT 3.1
Message-ID: <1993Sep16.140032.24964@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news)
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
References: <1993Sep16.131711.22515@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 14:00:32 GMT
In article <277hrp$5ml@news.aero.org> jcd@aladdin.aero.org (John C Davis)
writes:
> Does the Apple CD-300 work with NS 3.1?
Further to my previous reply to this question, I can confirm that
PhotoAlbum.app (in NeXTDeveloper/Demo) correctly renders the PhotoCD demo disc
that comes with the Apple CD-300.
From: labwm@slab.cc.emory.edu (William Morse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ALR Evolution Review (Part II) (Install Help - Long)
Message-ID: <4996@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
Date: 16 Sep 93 19:02:55 GMT
Sender: news@emory.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Technical Review: (Part II of my ALR Review)
IN SHORT:
ALR delivers a sold, well-designed Pentium for the money. I was very impressed.
(It made me a little happier (just slightly) after my earlier experience
(see Part I)).
Unfortunately, the machine is somewhat quirky with NS and there are some nasty
traps which can trip you up. But, once configured correctly, NS will run
smooth and fast. In short, a very good NS system, but for a price. (see Part I
and below.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The case is small and handsome. It looks *much* better in real life than it
does in the pictures ALR sends you or in their ads in PC WEEK. The quality
continues on inside the case where all the cables are neatly tied together
and out of your way. The case is very open and installing cards is easy, most
of the time.
The motherboard is of decent quality. It is surface mounted (of course) and
the mount points are clean. ALR made one error and did not place
the board in properly causing some slight warping during their burn in period.
I reseated the board and have suffered no ill effects.
One unfortunate aspect of the motherboard, however, is that there are
"open spots" where optional ICs could be. These "open spots" represent
the optional ethernet (not NS supported anyway) and extra cache memory.
Unfortunately, these "spots" are not socketed. So, once you select your
options from ALR, you better be prepared to stick with 'em. (Indeed, if
any chips do fail, the motherboard will have to be factory repaired.)
The motherboard can take 128meg in four 72 pin SIMM slots. I ordered two
16 meg. 70 NS SIMMS to make a total of 32 meg. This left two slots open.
The SIMM slots are wide apart and make for easy access.
The card slots are a little tight... especially the last ISA slot. I was
unable to align a card properly so that I could screw it in that slot. The
case is just a *wee* bit off. The card does have a tight fit, anyway, so
I don't feel too bad about leaving out a screw.
The Pentium itself sits under one of the computer's dual fans keeping it cool.
However, when the case is on, the whole computer radiates heat. It is not
too hot, but it is warm.
The case itself has room for 2 half height drives and an extra 3.5 Hard
drive in the back. There is also another area where a 3.5 floppy is
mounted.
I personally installed 2 3.5 inch IDE hard drives. One was a 210 Meg.
Western Digital IDE and the other was a 170 Meg Conner IDE. I attached them
both to the Multus controller (more on this later.)
I used my NeXT CD-ROM drive and an Adaptec 1542(c) SCSI card to install NS.
Also in the computer is a Pro Audio Studio 16 and an SMC ELITE 16 ether card.
For graphics, I use the flawed ATI Ultra Pro VL w/ 2 meg. of ram.
First thing I did was attach the CD-ROM, set it to 0 and pop in the floppy.
And... it locked after the second SCSI reset. Nothing I did could fix that.
Now, I knew that was going to happen. I had read other's complaints on the
net. So, I installed NS/FIP onto my 200meg. WD IDE previously from another
computer that would work. I figured (bet... hoped!) that the problem was
just the boot floppy... So, I booted up straight from the IDE... it just worked.
So, that is how I got NS to use the Multus IDE controller. Clever huh? :)
Some extra notes about HD: be sure and set up the IDE drives in bios FIRST.
Otherwise, the Adaptec card... takes over.
A word to the wise: put in your cards in one step at a time. At this point,
I only had the Adaptec and the ATI plugged in. I added the PAS-16 and
SMC later.
Now, I had built the disk to the boot-up point on the other machine. My next
task was to select the devices and language. This I did. I restarted and... it
booted fine - almost.
I formated my other IDE and mounted it. (See sysadmin. guide for how
to perm. mount a device. You will want to perm. mount it.)
I tested the CD-ROM and it worked great.
Here is the nasty trick number 1: the parallel port's memory address on the ALR
is not standard. So, your parallel driver will say "Port not there" and not
install at boot up. You could simply deinstall that driver and forget about it,
but that would be unwise. Why? The parallel port's address sits smack in the
middle of the ATI's address range. ***YOU MUST EITHER MOVE THE ATI'S ADDRESS
RANGE OR DISABLE THE PARALLEL PORT IN BIOS*** Otherwise, the ATI will act
rather odd at times. One last thing: the parallel driver gives you a range
of "addresses" where it thinks parallel ports should be. You cannot go beyond
this range with out doing some hacking. I know how to do this hacking (I did
it for the PAS-16) but I have simply (for now) diabled the parallel port. Why?
I have no parallel printers and... I need IRQ 7. You will see why later.
I added the SMC card and configured it. Please, use what NeXT wants you to use...
on all cards if you can. It saves you headaches.
Here is the nasty trick number 2: The sound card was more complex. I have an ISA
bus. Because of that, DMA 5 on up are out. (See install sheet from NeXTAnswers).
DMA 0 is also out. That leave 1-4. Unfortunately 2-4 are used (floppy et al) and
1 was not available as a choice in the driver set up. IRQ 7 was listed as open
and with the parallel port gone, I selected it. I had run the PAS DMA and IRQ
diag. program and it said DMA 1 and IRQ 7 were available and I had selected those.
(I turned off Sound Blaster Support altogether. It is not needed or used.)
So, what to do... hack the driver choices!
WARNING: What I did was and is not NeXT approved. Do it at your own risk! Ok,
if you look under /etc/drivers (or is it devices - I am away from my computer)
you will see a list off all the Intel drivers. (You can get into the /etc
with the Workspace if you select Unix File System under preferences.) Anyway,
you open the picture of the PAS-16 as a folder. It lets you see the files inside.
One of those files (there are three or four) has the setups in them. Look
for one that says DMA "0 2 3 4 5 6..." and simply add a 1 between the 0 and
the 2. When you log out and log back in and open the driver install program...
1 will be available! I selected it and my PAS-16 has worked like a charm ever
since. I have not had one problem.
Now, the parallel driver has the same "allowed setups" in its driver setup too.
I suspect that if you moved the ATI's address and edited the parallel driver
to allow you to use the ALR's parallel port address range... it would work as
well.
Since doing all this, the computer has worked like a charm. The WD is
fast on the multus and the computer has proved rock solid.
I get 55 VAX Mips from NXBench. I get graphics performance of about .75 of a
NeXTStation Turbo Color. I intend to replace the ATI with an S3 based
board or a Viper when they are supported. (The ATI has a bug in the firmware
that inserts waitstates. The new cut of the board is better... I have the
old one. See Sept. NeXTWORLD for more info.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CONCLUSION:
Would I buy another ALR? No. Not ever. The company does not care about the
little guy... like me. The HW is descent, but I suspect that pretty soon,
Compaq and others will have HW out just as good and indeed... better.
Do I like my computer? Yes... very much. But, it is not the computer I
wanted. However, I am happy with it. If you want one... call a VAR like
Alpine. (I do not work for or have any connection to Alpine or any other
VAR).
I hope this has been helpful! Comments are welcome.
- William
Opinions Are My Own and My Own Alone!!!
================================================================================
Consult. / ITD ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Emory Law Student
================================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: What is in NeXT 8MB upgrade N7011
Message-ID: <1993Sep16.203510.16682@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Sep16.165847.27458@sol.UVic.CA>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 20:35:10 GMT
In article <1993Sep16.165847.27458@sol.UVic.CA> gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg
Toews) writes:
>
> I have a monostation 25MHz with 8 1MB simms in it. I am looking at
> a third party equivalent to the N7011 8MB upgrade from a "used-to-be"
> authorized NeXT re-seller. Does anyone know what simms are in this
> upgrade. I assume this will give my machine 16MB but are they 8x2MB or
> 4x4MB?
Here's the FAQ. In short, you want to add 4 4MB SIMMs (first removing
4 1MB SIMMs) for a total of 20 MB. Quite a difference in performance.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce
Subject: NeXT-Hardware-RAM-FAQ
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
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N1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
N2. What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
N3. Where can I purchase memory for a NeXT?
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: N1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT?
References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin
"Announcing NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo"
NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz),
NeXTcube (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 16
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 30-pin low profile
SIMM access rating: 100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB
The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in
the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the
small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install
the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide
the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously.
Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT machines,
but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040 boards with
ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity memory to detect
parity errors.
[One user adds the following unverified claims:]
It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not
boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb
parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an
exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from Next.
You can pay $30, or you may be able to squawk and get one for free. I
have found Next to be pretty responsive, once I find the right person.
[Jimmie Quan, NeXT Hardware Service, adds:]
The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this series
of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the second paragraph.
NeXTdimension boards (i860):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4, 8 MB (256Kx32, 1Mx32, 2Mx32)
Maximum RAM: 64 MB (32 MB official NeXT)
NeXT didn't officially bless the use of 8 MB SIMMs, but they seem to
fit and work.
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 4
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
Faster SIMMS (80 ns) don't make the memory system work any
faster than the 100 ns units.
NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz):
Number SIMM slots: 8
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 80 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 32 MB
NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz),
NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300:
Number SIMM slots: 4
SIMM group size: 2
SIMM type: 72-pin
SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns
SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36)
Maximum RAM: 128 MB
For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns will
be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to 100 ns.
NeXT manufacturing introduced the new 25 MHz NeXTstation CPU board
into production in late June '92. To verify which SIMM type your machine
uses, check the system's memory configuration. You can do this by using
the ROM monitor s print memory configuration command m. Start with
your machine powered down. Press the Power key to power on. As soon as the
message Testing system... disappears, press
command-command-tilde (~ on the numeric keyboard). Under these
circumstances, this will access the ROM monitor. In the ROM monitor,
type m and press return. Turbo-designed boards including new 25 MHz
NeXTstations and all Turbo systems will return messages reporting
the memory configuration contained in four sockets (sockets 0 -3); old
25 MHz boards will return messages for more than four sockets (usually
8). You can tell a Turbo-designed board, and the accompanying 72 pin, 70
nanosecond SIMMs, by the fact it only reports information for only four
sockets.
[John Graves, Hardware Engineering, NeXT Computer, Inc. adds]
The memory system has programmable memory timing such that the number
of processor clocks needed to access a given amount of data can be
tailored to the speed of the memory installed. 70 ns memory is just
enough faster than 80 ns memory to allow the cpu to access the data with
fewer clock cycles. This improves memory system performance.
"70 ns" memory is faster than "80 ns" memory in many parameters other
than just RAS access time. The faster CAS access time in particular
allows the memory system to respond quicker to burst (16 bytes) bus
transfers.
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: N2. What is the NeXT SIMM tool?
The tool came with 68040 upgrade kits for NeXTcubes.
It really makes removing SIMMs easy. It looks like a dental tool: about
six inches long with a 1/2" long head offset at 90 degrees. To remove
SIMMs, you slip the head into the hole on one side of the SIMM, rest the
head on the SIMM socket next to the SIMM you are pulling, and pivot the
tool back, using the simple fulcrum to gently pry the SIMM up about 1/8"
from the socket on that side. Repeat on the other side, and the SIMM can be
then removed by hand.
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: N3. Where can I purchase memory for a NeXT?
This list contains only a few vendors; prices listed may change and are
provided as examples only.
There is significant day-to-day fluctuation in prices, especially
since the destruction of a factory in Japan in July that manufactured
resin used in chips. Prices are currently very high.
First Tech Stratum Technologies
Austin, TX
800-533-1744
512-258-3570
512-258-3689 (fax)
[Prices current as of 11-Jun-93] [A sad reminder of how cheap prices were
before the current prices]
30 Pin SIMMs
1x8-70ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 30
4x8-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 127
1x9-80ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 37.50
4x9-80ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 147
72 Pin SIMMs
1x32-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 129
2x32-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 260
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 555
1x36-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 147.50
2x36-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 285
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 640
Lifetime Warranty.
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[Prices current as of 6-May-93]
30 Pin SIMMs
1x8-80ns 1 Mb SIMM $ 30
4x8-80ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 125
72 Pin SIMMs
1x32-70ns 4 Mb SIMM $ 135
2x32-70ns 8 Mb SIMM $ 255
4x32-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 540
4x36-70ns 16 Mb SIMM $ 580
-70ns 32 Mb SIMM $2300 (no parity)
Parity available for some sizes.
Lifetime Warranty, toll-free support, 24hr RMA.
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From: mross@netcom.com (Antigone Press)
Subject: Modifying backplane to add 030 motherboard?
Message-ID: <mrossCDGu84.CvC@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 21:26:28 GMT
Does anyone know where to find instructions for installing a second
motherboard (030) to an 040 cube?
Thanks!
--
--------------
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Antigone Press mross@netcom.com
San Francisco CA FAX +1.415.431.3650
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: S3 Graphics on DEC MTE-d2: 1280*1024*16bit... Is it Great?
Date: 16 Sep 1993 23:46:54 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27atte$slo@fermat.mayo.edu>
Keywords: Intel Display Video
From NeXTAnswers... document 1329
>The NEXTSTEP Release 3.1 S3 display driver supports the integrated
>S3 graphics chipset on the Dell M series, the Dell L series, and
>the DEC MTE d2 series. On the DEC MTE d2 with S3-928 and 4MB of
>video RAM the driver supports1280x1024 16 bit color graphics. At
>the time of this writing that is the highest resolution color
>solution available
>
> DEC MTE-d2 system: 4 MB VRAM supports 1280x1024 w/ Localbus S3-928
> [DEC MTE-d2 (S3 805 and S3 928 versions): driver update required]
>
>Known Problems:
>[none]
Has anybody seen this? Benchmarked this? Is is as fast as ATI GUP? Faster?
Is it worth it?
Inquiring minds want to know;-)
--
- Geoff
-----------------------------------------------------------------
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Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: moran@bbs.ug.eds.com (PAUL T. MORAN (EDS - HARRISON DIVISION))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: <None>
Date: 16 Sep 93 18:30:42 GMT
Organization: EDS - HARRISON DIVISION
Message-ID: <1993Sep16.183042.1@bbs.ug.eds.com>
I get a black screen when I put my ATI Mach 32VLB 2MB Ultra (according to
shipping slip) in 1024x768 with 65K color mode. I have the following
configuration:
AMI ISA/VLB Motherboard (486 66)
Intel EtherExpress16 (IQ 10)
Adaptec 1542C (IQ11)
ATI mach32 VLB
I have the AMI drivers set up for the defaults for Nextstep:
Port Address: 0x3B0 (manual says: 2E0 but that conflicts with the EtherExpress
and the Serial port)...
Mapped Memory: 0x7E00000 (manual says: A0000-BFFFF plus the memory aperture
address you set when you enable it throug the INSTALL program).
I can not run the install program because it came on 5.25 floppies and I only
have a 3.5 " Floppy.
I did the installation for Windows NT and it came up in 1024x768 at 65K with no
problem. It also did not ask for the Port Address or Mapped Memory.
Any ideas.
I think this is a Graphics Ultra Pro, but it just arrived today and the manual
only says VLB mach32.
Any ideas?
Paul...
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 13w3 connector for color megapixel display
Date: 17 Sep 1993 01:43:35 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <27b4o7$7p9@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Hi,
I am looking for a 13w3 connector that integrates the RGB signals into one
connector on the back of the color megapixel displays. Most monitors have
RGB BNC connectors, but NeXT decided to change to this very rare connector.
I am trying to make a custom cable to connect my video card to a color
megapixel monitor, and I'm having difficulty locating this connector.
If anybody has a source for this, please send me a note!
Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kincaid@next1.mc.maricopa.edu (Brad Kincaid)
Subject: Dirty CD can foil NSI 3.1 install
Message-ID: <1993Sep17.020128.23817@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
Keywords: NSI intel install
Sender: news@ennews.eas.asu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 02:01:28 GMT
Now comes another NSI install horror story...
We had been working for over a week trying to install NSI 3.1 on an Epson
without success. Thought we had problems with our SCSI adaptor, CD drive,
cabling, termination...
Finally, a novice said something like "could it be a bad CD?" We checked
it out an found that our CD right out of the Academic bundle was covered
with a thick film on the bottom that prevented the drive from reading it.
We checked 3 Academic bundles with similar appearance, but only one (the
one we were using) was so bad that the drive would not even spin it up.
So before you tear apart your CD drive like we did, check the CD itself to
make sure it is not covered with jelly like ours was... So much for
quality control!
Brad Kincaid
Life Science Department
Mesa Community College
1833 W. Southern Ave.
Mesa, AZ 85202
voice: 602/461-7103
fax: 602/461-7803
kincaid@next.mc.maricopa.edu
(next mail preferred)
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From: klett@sunrayce.solar.umn.edu (James P. Klett)
Subject: Re: Can a PC be used as Terminal on Slab
Message-ID: <CDH8Cq.BoA@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <CDFCpC.28C@infoserv.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 02:23:00 GMT
kent@infoserv.com wrote:
: In article <275de1$c3o@clarknet.clark.net> jmeacham@clark.net (James D.
: Meacham) writes:
: #Hello!
: #
: #I just bought a PC laptop (an old Toshiba 1000SE) and I was wondering if
: #anyone had any experience using a PC through a port as a terminal. I
: #don't have a modem for the PC yet, and even if I did it would be a pain in
: #the butt to call from one machine to the NeXT. So, does anyone have any
: #sugeestions on how, if it is possible, this would be accomplished?
: #Thanks in advance.
: #
: #James Meacham
: #
: #
: I did it on my cube for a while.
: All you need is a serial cable from the PC to the NeXT and terminal emulation
: software on the PC.
: Kent
Same here, get a MAC din8 to DB25 cable, and it might work, but I
had to get a patch or wire and solder it up to match pins 2 and 3
to the right pins for the PC. I'm currently only using pins 2,3 and
7. One nice feature is if you have windows and a program like
procomm for windows, you can set it up to connect to both your
NeXT and an outside line like Internet and then cut and paste text
to your next or vice versa. Email me if you have questions,
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From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd)
Subject: UPS Pinouts for APC-400
Message-ID: <1993Sep17.012805.1906@gleap.sccsi.com>
Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com
Organization: GiantLeap Software
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 01:28:05 GMT
I am trying to employ "upsd" (from cs.orst.edu) to monitor my APC-400
uninteruptable power supply. I am not sure about how to build a cable to
connect it to my serial port. Could someone send me a pinout diagram for this?
Also, any tips on where to place all the various files involved in upsd would
be helpful.
Thanks,
Charles.
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Dirty CD can foil NSI 3.1 install
Message-ID: <1993Sep17.033708.8050@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <1993Sep17.020128.23817@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 03:37:08 GMT
Brad Kincaid writes
> Finally, a novice said something like "could it be a bad CD?"
> We checked it out an found that our CD right out of the Academic
> bundle was covered with a thick film on the bottom that prevented
> the drive from reading it. We checked 3 Academic bundles with
> similar appearance, but only one (the one we were using) was so
> bad that the drive would not even spin it up.
>
> So before you tear apart your CD drive like we did, check the CD
> itself to make sure it is not covered with jelly like ours was...
> So much for quality control!
there was a batch of CDs that had this problem. An announcement was
made on the net some time ago.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ian_stewart@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Re: Hint mb and NS/I incompatible?
Message-ID: <CDHI2s.nr@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: ABC Company. We specialize in classic chewing gum!
References: <274sn2$ejp@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 06:01:39 GMT
First off once you get NS installed on this machine, you will have no
floppy drive access.
It is possible to install on this machine:
this is how to do it (I also recommend this on any machine!)
1) Boot NEXTSTEP off the floppy as you normally would.
2) As soon as you get the grey bar at the top of the screen, eject the
floppy disk.
Yes the light will still be on, but do it anyway.
Be sure to eject the floppy before the fd0 lines show up.
3) installation should continue as normal and as described in the manual.
4) DO NOT use a floppy disk at any time when using the current floppy
driver and the HiNT chip set.
ian
PS the grey bar says NeXT Mach Operating System. I usually eject the disk
BEFORE the first "resetting scsi bus" shows up.
Message being forwarded:
From: melora@squid.jpl.nasa.gov (Melora E. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hint mb and NS/I incompatible?
Date: 14 Sep 1993 16:49:38 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA
I am posting this for a friend that can read but not post to the net.
Please send e-mail reponses to him (address at bottom of message).
Thanks
********************************************************************
Help!
I am trying to get NeXT/Intel to work on the following hardware:
Hint-3/486WB VESA/EISA motherboard with an 66MHz intel 486DX2
32MB of RAM.
ATI Graphic Ultra Pro with 2MB
Toshiba 1.2GB SCSI hard drive, as SCSI device 0
NEC CDR-74-1 CD ROM drive, as SCSI device 1
generic 1.44MB floppy, no 5 1/4 floppy installed.
Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller, FD controller disabled.
generic FD controller.
cheap Dexxa serial mouse.
SMC Elite 16 ethernet card
NEC 5FG monitor.
The SCSI is properly terminated, and all the base addressed and IRQs are
as required. Needless to say: DOS works fine.
When I try booting, the mach kernel seems to load OK from the floppy, then
I get:
mouseInit failure
it resets the SCSI and then says that sd1 is not ready (i.e. it can't seem
to read the CD ROM).
then I get some errors apparently related to the ethernet card:
class 'SMC16' not linked, couldn't find class 'SMC16'
class 'EthernetExpress' not linked, couldn't find class 'EthernetExpress'
then the killer:
root on sd1
rootdev 608, howto 0
panic (cpu0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
Raise RDP exception 6 code 3 subcode 0
waiting for RDP connection (type 'c' to continue)
typing 'c' just gives you "Raise RDP" etc. again and it hangs with the
floppy light lit.
I have tried ejecting the floppy at various points: same error.
I tried setting the SCSI id of the CD to 6: no joy.
I tried making the HD SCSI device 1 and the CD ROM device 0: this gave a
slight variation of the errors, but the same final result.
I know that some prople have gotten the HiNT motherboard to work ... but
if the problem is really a hopeless MB bug, I could get a NICE MB: but
would that work with my other hardware?! I have heard some failure stories
about NICE MBs as well.
I am in complete agreement with the poster some time ago who complained
that the hardware compatability guide is misleading: will somebody please
start a FAQ list of MB + "guide approved" hardware combinations that
work?! The guide makes it sound like they all will!
Meanwhile: Any ideas on what I might try next?
----> Stephen Morris
please respond to smorris@tweedledee.ucsb.edu
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From: ian_stewart@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Re: Installing NS on Gateway 2000
Message-ID: <CDHIH6.oI@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: ABC Company. We specialize in classic chewing gum!
References: <275ckg$gt0@menudo.uh.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 06:10:18 GMT
Please stay away from Gateways (or any machine using Micronics
motherboards for that matter) if at all possible. There are better systems
you can choose from. You may see NeXT drop Gateway V systems from the HW
Guide in the future because the sales dept at Gateway doesn't care about
NS customers and continues to tell those customers that what they will be
getting will run NEXTSTEP (Ultrastor, IDE CD-ROM drives etc DO NOT
CURRENTLY RUN NS for the thousandth time DAMN IT!!!) and it doesn't when
the customer gets it. NeXT has tried to educate Gateway, but they don't
listen. Look at other systems like the DEC, Dell, HP etc. You will be much
happier.
THESE ARE MY OPINIONS ONLY AND DO NOT REFLECT NeXT's CURRENT POSITION.
ian
In article <275ckg$gt0@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S.
Sears) writes:
> In article <CDCzvw.5IM.1@cs.cmu.edu> cmiller@CS.CMU.EDU (Craig Miller)
> writes:
> #
> #I'm interested in buying an Intel box for running NS. Looking over
> #previous postings and recommendations, I've been leaning towards a
> #Gateway 2000 Series V 66 DX/2 system. Even after reviewing numerous
> #posts, the hardware compatibility guide, NextAnswers, and talking with
> #a Gateway representative, I find that I'm *still* left with some
> #inconsistent and incomplete information. I would greatly appreciate
> #any help with these questions, or any other information useful in
> #buying a system for NS.
> #
> #The Gateway representative seemed to think that I would need to buy a
> #SCSI hard drive and controller. He thought NS can't run off of the
> #hard drive that comes with the system (runs off the local bus). The
> #hardware compatibility guide doesn't mention this, neither do postings
> #from people who have successfully installed NS on Gateway 2000's.
> #Yet, NextAnswers configuration guide for Gateway notes (almost as if
> #in passing) that NS was installed on a SCSI hard drive. Do I really
> #need to buy the SCSI hard drive to run NS? Can't I just use
> #the drive (running on the local bus) that comes with the system?
>
> The built in Local-Bus IDE harddrive works great. We have installed
> NEXTSTEP on over 50 Gateway2000 4DX2-66V with 420M IDE drives without
many
> problems...
>
> #I would like to have a modem that runs with NS. Mainly to login to
> #other systems from home. Gateway sells their Telepath modem with
> #their systems, but I have no idea if this will be compatible with NS.
> #Does anyone know? If not, what modems are compatible? I have found
> #nothing anywhere about modem compatibility.
> #
>
> The internal Telepath is not supported. At this time you need to go
with an
> external modem and most should work fine...
>
> #The Gateway representative thought that the CD ROM supplied with the
> #system might now be supported by NS. I doubt it; I believe I still
> #need that SCSI CD ROM, right?
> #
>
> The "builtin" CD-Rom drive that Gateway supplies is not a SCSI device.
It
> is kinda, sorta an ide style drive, but even that is pushing it
(especially
> since you need to install the driver for it to work, even under DOS).
> You will need to have access to an Adaptec 154x SCSI adapter and a SCSI
> CD-Rom drive...
>
> #Thanks,
> #Craig
>
> --
> Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
> The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
> Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
> NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
> >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
> "Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
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From: zeno@abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont)
Subject: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Message-ID: <1993Sep17.103134.28568@coco.ms.washington.edu>
Sender: news@coco.ms.washington.edu (C-news admin)
Organization: Abstract Software
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 10:31:34 GMT
I'm going to be buying a 1.2-gig drive for my NeXTStation in the next
few weeks. From looking around a bit, it seems like the DEC DSP3105
seems on-par with a lot of other drives (Fujitsu) and a bit less
expensive. And having worked with DECStations a bit, I've had little
trouble with Dec Equipment in general. I wondered if anyone who is
using it on NeXT hardware or otherwise could give me some general
impressions.
Thank you. Please respond by email as I can't keep up with this group
and still get any work done.
--
Sean T. Lamont | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts
Abstract Software | Professional collection for NeXT
lamont@abstractsoft.com |____________________________________
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From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka)
Subject: Adding printer on parallel port
Message-ID: <CDB6oD.Bpy@ceco.ceco.com>
Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator)
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co.
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 20:09:49 GMT
Hi, I'm trying to add an old dot matrix printer on the parallel port of my
new PC, and while I can get text to print from DOS, I haven't had
any luck figuring out what needs to be set to get it to work as a line
printer under NeXTstep. I don't plan on printing any .PS, just want to
get plain text (code, etc.). Does anyone know what device it is attached as?
cat blah > /dev/printer would be enough... lpr -Pprinter file would be
even better. Thanks in advance,
Michael Stepniczka
mikes@ceco.ceco.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Pro Audio Spectrum is crap under 3.1
Message-ID: <CDGnx6.A4@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <Sep.15.03.44.18.1993.18561@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <277h9d$hbn@newscast.West.Sun.COM>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 19:10:18 GMT
In article <277h9d$hbn@newscast.West.Sun.COM> dgd@nantucket.West.Sun.COM writes:
>I'd REALLY like to see 3.2 include support for the Turtle Beach
>Multisound card. It's got a DSP (56001 running at 40MHz) and
>a synth (Proteus EMU) with MIDI. The card wouldn't work for things like
>TTYDSP, but it would provide a high quality sound/music option for NSI.
>
>Comments?
>
>Dan
>
Good point. The Multisound card is great. However, it is not as popular as
the SoundBlaster16 (ASP) which has a Proteus EMU option. The Soundblaster is
THE standard on the PC ( even IBM is now using it in their multimedia
computers- the SoundBlaster-16.
I'd like to see drivers for both the Multisound and the Soundblaster-16, but
I am pretty sure that NeXt will not provide them unless there appears to be
some demand ( i.e. people requesting them here or to NeXT).
Why on earth they went for the PAS-16 is beyond me. Apart from being difficult
to install, it doesn't particularly have good sound. In the PC world it simply
is not regarded as a very good sound card, for many reasons.
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: cjs@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher J. Seline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Will TANBERG 3600 Tape Drive work with Slab?
Date: 17 Sep 1993 14:15:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Message-ID: <27cgpv$gf0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Does anyone have any experience good or bad with the Tanberg 3600 Tape Drive?
Is $189 a good price for one (used)
and will it work with my slab and *tar*
thanks in advance
cjs@occs.cs.oberlin.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mullen@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Preston Mullen)
Subject: Re: CDC Wren V specs?
Message-ID: <CDI7En.BEB@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Summary: how to set jumpers for Wren V disk for use in NeXT cube
Keywords: Wren V, jumpers, SCSI, disk
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Information Technology Division, Naval Research Laboratory
References: <1993Sep7.154702.12179@cs.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 15:08:46 GMT
Looking at the drive from the back, with the 50-pin SCSI connector
at the top edge, there are 7 jumpers at the top left next to the SCSI
connector:
u1 u2 u3 u4 u5 u6 u7
l1 l2 l3 l4 l5 l6 l7
A jumper across u1-l1 takes 5V termination power from the disk's
5V power source; across l1-l2 takes it from the SCSI cable. This
is relevant only if the termination resistorss are installed on
the disk; if so, my guess is that it's better to install this across
u1-l1. (Note: This jumper can be installed vertically or horizontally;
the other jumpers install only across vertically paired pins. Do
not install a jumper across u2-l2 or u1-u2!)
Jumpers 3-5 are the SCSI address in binary. So SCSI ID 1 has no
jumper across u3-l3 and u4-l4, and a jumper across u5-l5.
Jumper 6 tells the disk not to spin up until the NeXT asks it to.
I recommend installing this jumper across u6-l6. Otherwise the
disk will spin up at power-on time, and you may encounter a "SCSI
error" when booting up, because the disk won't respond to any
inquiry while it is spinning up. I've tried it both ways and it
works better with this jumper IN.
Jumper 7 tells the disk to check parity on the SCSI bus. The disk
will work either way, but since (according to something I read in
NeXTAnswers) NeXT recommends configuring an Exabyte tape drive to
check SCSI parity, I assume it is desirable on a hard disk too.
> is it possible to reformat it to get more than 573MB?
My drive has 583MB formatted capacity = 611,319,808, where 1 MB =
2^20. My guess is that the 660MB unformatted capacity you cite =
660,000,000, i.e., it assumes 1MB = 10^6.
Formatting is going to take some of the unformatted capacity; don't
forget space lost to spare sectors and cylinders.
---
Preston Mullen
Naval Research Laboratory
Washington DC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mcnichol@math.syr.edu (Brendan T. McNichols)
Subject: Installing new internal drives for NeXTstation
Message-ID: <1993Sep17.105953.17683@newstand.syr.edu>
Keywords: new,internal,hard,drive,NeXTstation
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 10:59:52 EDT
Hi all,
First off: Thanks to everyone who responded to my earlier post concerning
the "MEDIA ERROR" I was getting. Sorry I couldn't thank everyone
individually, there were just too many responses! The conclusion of 90%
of the responses was that the drive was toast.
Now I am stuck trying to get a new drive to install internally in the
NeXTstation. I have possibilities of two drives for which I have found
reasonable prices; the Fujitsu M2624FA 520 MB ($661) and the Quantum
LPS525S 525MB ($629). I'm inclined to go with the Fujitsu since it comes
with a 5 year warranty instead of Quantum's 2 years.
My question is this: Has anyone had any experience installing either of
these drives internally in a NeXTstation? Is it possible? Recommended?
Any pitfalls I need to look out for?
Thanks VERY much in advance,
Brendan
--
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Syracuse University Mathematics Dept. mcnichol@syr.edu (NeXT)
215 Carnegie Hall
Syracuse, NY 13244
From: darcy@solutions.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Welcome to the world of horrors (Intel 486)
Date: 17 Sep 1993 11:26:35 -0400
Organization: The Hutchison Avenue Software Corp.
Sender: samurai@bleys.hasc.ca
Message-ID: <27ckvb$1nj@bleys.hasc.ca>
References: <1993Sep15.210719.502@CAM.ORG!planon>
In article <1993Sep15.210719.502@CAM.ORG!planon> stephane@planon.qc.ca writes:
> I hate Intel-based computer. Please give me an alternative.
They're called Snakes and Hummingbirds. Coming soon to a theatre near
you :-).
- darcy
--
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taxation." -- N. Machiavelli
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Toshiba MK 538 (1.2 GB hard disk) good choice ?
Date: 17 Sep 1993 17:12:25 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <27cr5p$8tc@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi,
did anybody ever use the "Toshiba MK 538" hard disk with his cube or station ?
Any problems ?
Noisy ?
It's a 1.2 GB hard disk, SCSI, 12 ms seek time, half height, comes
with 3 years warranty. It seems to be the cheapest of the giga drives,
well, here in Berlin anyway.
Thanks for any info, Ernst.
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From: info@tcscs.com (Customer Service)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NSi Installation Tips (Long)
Message-ID: <XR110B2w165w@tcscs.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 07:58:20 PDT
References: <1993Sep16.052212.26797@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: TCS Computer Systems
kpfleger@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Karl Robert Pfleger) writes:
> >1. If you can get one of the pre-configured NeXT blessed
> >systems...do it! In the short run this will be the easiest way to
> >get your system working. But that is a cop-out and you want to know
> >about all my troubles so that you may avoid them ;-)
>
> I've heard this a few times, but it raises the following issue for those
> of us in academic land:
>
> Academic pricing on NSi is $250 for user + developer. Do any of the
> vendors shipping prepackaged systems also have academic pricing? If not,
> installing it oneself, despite the headache, could be quite a bit cheaper.
Another option is to find someone that sells the hardware and will install NS/i
if you supply it. That is what I do here, and what I've seen at least 2 other
companies doing.
Greg
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From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne)
Subject: Benchmark information?
Message-ID: <1993Sep17.173748.28576@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale Physics Department
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 17:37:48 GMT
A friend of mine wants to buy a 486 machine and put NeXTStep on it. Sometime
earlier this summer, I remember someone posting some benchmark information
about the various 486 machines. I able to find the NXBench program on
cs.orst.edu, but it has extremely limited information about how fast the
various systems are. Could someone point me to the ftp site where the
information is kept?
The only thing I really remember is that the old black hardware was in general
faster than the new 486 hardware.
--
Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu
"We Americans, we're a simple people... but piss us off,
and we'll bomb your cities." -- Robin Williams
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 8 serial ports / NSI
Date: 17 Sep 1993 20:36:04 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27csi4$jtm@cc.tut.fi>
I'm in a situation where I should set up a 486 based computer to run
NSI. However up to eight serial ports (RS-422/RS-232) are required.
As far as I know there are such boards but no drivers for NSI.
Are there any solutions? (it might be possible to use two
serial cards with 4 ports as well).
--
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Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cap@bawdy.cs.cmu.edu (Chris Paris)
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
In-Reply-To: zeno@abstractsoft.com's message of Fri, 17 Sep 1993 10:31:34 GMT
Message-ID: <CAP.93Sep17121718@bawdy.cs.cmu.edu>
Sender: news@cs.cmu.edu (Usenet News System)
Organization: Carnegie Mellon School of Computer Science
References: <1993Sep17.103134.28568@coco.ms.washington.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 16:17:17 GMT
In article <1993Sep17.103134.28568@coco.ms.washington.edu> zeno@abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont) writes:
I'm going to be buying a 1.2-gig drive for my NeXTStation in the next
few weeks. From looking around a bit, it seems like the DEC DSP3105
I've been using the 1.6-gig DEC DSP3160 for about three weeks now. If
the DEC drives are similar to one another, then my experience will
apply to the 3105 drive. I bought my drive from MegaHaus for $1299,
which is only $.81/Mb. Only the Toshiba MK538FB was less expensive per
meg, at $.80/Mb. Anyway, the DEC drive works great. It has a slight
whine to it, but it's not too bad. It runs pretty hot, so I replaced
the fan in my 'station with one that blows harder.
Shortly after buying my drive, a friend of mine bought the Toshiba
538. To transfer some net.software to my friend's disk, we had both
drives on my system for a day. This gave me a nice opportunity to
compare them. They both realize roughly the same throughput. The
Toshiba is quiter and runs cooler. The DEC has a 5 year warrantee
compared to the Toshiba's 3 year warrantee.
Chris Paris <cap+@cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Powerbook to NeXTstation
Message-ID: <CDIF8n.JJw@news.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 17:57:58 GMT
Fairly soon I'm going to be regularly interfacing a Powerbook (a 180 c I
think) with my NeXTstation. Before this blessed event occurs, I thought
I'd solicit advice from the networld as to the best way to accomplish this
task. The configuration is pretty basic: standard mono NeXTstation, NS
3.0, soon to be 3.1 or 3.2, running a high speed modem/SLIP connection on
serial port A, and a "beater" modem on serial B which is used just for
dialing phone numbers out of SBook.
The powerbook will be hauled around, and plugged into the station once or
twice per day to move and or print files, and perhaps to telnet out while
the SLIP connection is up. What's the best way to do this? Through one of
the serial ports? (I could get rid of the beater modem fairly easily) Is it
okay to plug into the serial port while the NeXT is up? Is there any
particularly useful software to get for either the NeXT or the Mac end of
things?
Any and all suggestions welcome.
Thanx in advance --- Tom
--
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Center for Physical and
Computational Mathematics 515-294-5543
Ames Laboratory 515-233-1216 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@iastate.edu
From: ward@bruno.EBay.Sun.COM ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hint Motherboard and NS/I floppy drivers.
Date: 17 Sep 1993 22:19:38 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27dd5q$1vu@male.EBay.Sun.COM>
Hey everyone,
I was wondering if *anyone* has gotten the Hint EISA/VESA motherboard to
work with a floppy drive? Yes I did get it to install on my system, but
like so many others I cannot use the floppy drive, those RDP exceptions
just keepa commin...
I would like to hear from others who have the same problem, even if you
haven't solved it... If I can find enough people sharing this situation,
I'll gladly lobby NeXT for a fix without just one of us having to foot a
large maintenance cost...
Please email me at wardm@well.sf.ca.us
ward
From: hugunin@mtl.mit.edu (James Hugunin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Rdp_poll_error
Date: 17 Sep 1993 22:47:30 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <27deq2$jkq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <CDEJuA.20L@mecati.mecasoft.ch>
> My machine (an Intel GX) is at the same time an uucp client and
> server. If I use uucp as a client (polling) I have no problem at all.
> Instead when a client of my machine polls my machine, exactly after
> the uucp connection is closed, my machine crashes with a rdp
> connection error (system panic).
>
> I am already using the new serial driver of NeXT and I am running it
> at 38400 and I have no problem using it with other communication
> software like kermit or tip.
>
> Did someone else on the net experience the same problem ?
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
> - Massimo
I have also been having problems RDP Exception errors on a Gateway 2000
which is connected to a network of black hardware. Problems appear at
seemingly random times. Sometimes it is possible to log in and run quite
successfully for a while, and then all of a sudden the system will panic
and return an RDP Exception Error. At that time I have no recourse except
to reboot.
If anybody understands this problem, or could at least explain to me what
an RDP exception is (so that I could have a better chance of tracking the
error down) your help would be most appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
-Jim Hugunin hugunin@mtl.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Help please: trying to get 3COM Etherlink card to work
Message-ID: <1993Sep16.164658.21400@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <CDEs0M.EA9@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 16:46:58 GMT
In article <CDEs0M.EA9@news2.cis.umn.edu> scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S.
Bertilson) writes:
> We bought the AUI-TP combination and are using it with an AUI to BNC
> transceiver - haven't tried the TP port.
> We are however a little disappointed at the fact that it seems to
> have some pretty serious problems acting as an NFS client to fast
> machine like the SGI Iris - I saw numerous "NFS server ricci not
> responding"/"NFS server ricci OK" messages while trying to compile
> across the network. It was also *very* slow. I changed the "mount"
> parameters to specify "rsize=1500,wsize=1500" and saw a tremendous
> improvement in performance. Does this mean that we've made a big
> mistake in our choice of Enet controller or will 3.2 handle the
> controller better?
Both. 3.2 will handle the controller better, but it will continue to
perform poorly. You made a big mistake by buying an Ethernet controller
that was optimized for Netware and nothing else. It doesn't have a
sufficiently large cache to handle NFS. NFS reads are 8KB, which means at
least six TCP packets.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Please Re-Think Using DPT 2012B Controller on Intel GX/Pro
Message-ID: <1993Sep16.164938.21456@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <276c84$1rm@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 16:49:38 GMT
In article <276c84$1rm@inxs.concert.net> briggman@rock.concert.net (David
B Briggman -- Personal Account) writes:
> One of my customers has had a lot of problems with the DPT 2012B
Controller
> on the Intel box - "it just doesn't work."
>
> Both of us have been in contact with Intel's Customer Service Center
(THEY
> ARE EXCELLENT AS FAR AS SUPPORT AND INFORMATION) and Intel's position
right
> now is to use Adaptec's 1542C instead of the DPT. It appears to be a
thermal
> issue with the DPT card and DPT isn't really helping.
The DPT 2012 has been superceded by the 2022. Anyone who buys a 2012 now
is making a mistake.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: m@BlueRose.com (M Carling)
Subject: Re: What would be the best Ethernet card to buy for ISA?
Message-ID: <1993Sep16.165148.21521@BlueRose.com>
Sender: m@BlueRose.com
Organization: Blue Rose Systems, Inc.
References: <1993Sep15.195441.11749@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 16:51:48 GMT
In article <1993Sep15.195441.11749@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) writes:
> While there is not much of a choice in the matter, what would you all
> recommend I get? 3c509 or Intel Etherlink (whatever it is)?
While they have comparable performance under Netware, the Intel card is
MUCH faster under NEXTSTEP because of its larger cache.
M Carling
President, Bay Area NeXT Group
From: cjn@vaal.cpr.upenn.edu (Christopher Nagel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: '030 Serial cables
Message-ID: <147894@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 17 Sep 93 21:38:07 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Hello,
I'm trying to install SLIP on my 030 cube, and t
he Mac cables I have attached to my modem don't work. The thing is, I don't know what I need instead: NeXTconnection says their cable is the same as a Mac cable without the apple on it.
What
do I do?
Thanks!
Christached to my modem don't work. The thing is, I don't know what I need instead: NeXTconnection says their cable is the same as a Mac cable without the apple on it.
What
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Floppy drive and Adaptec OK?
Date: 17 Sep 1993 23:49:52 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <27dif0$dcn@news.u.washington.edu>
I've got a generic 50mhz 486 with an Adaptec 1540b, ver 3.1, that is
driving 2 hard disks and a floppy. The install notes says no floppies
should be connected to the SCSI board. Is this really the case? I'm
booting with the Next floppy just fine (it's going through the motions and
spitting out messages, so I know it's reading the floppy), but the system
won't recognize the CD drive (a NeXT drive, BTW). I'm curious about the
floppy being a problem here. Anybody got any experience in this area?
Any help greatly appreciated, of couse!
bb
--
Bill Barker
Biological Structure, SM-20
University of Washington
Seattle WA 98195
(206) 543-7315
"In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is
Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
From: danzig@usenet.pitt.edu (Danzig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pro Audio Spectrum is crap under 3.1
Message-ID: <1905@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 18 Sep 93 00:04:45 GMT
References: <Sep.15.03.44.18.1993.18561@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
John Kheit (kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
: Boy, this PC hardware makes me more and more appreciative of my black hardware. What can I say about the PAS 16 under NSi 3.1...IT STINKS!!! Its all configured right and if you record or play back any sounds of any decent length longer than 1 minute of 8khz mono 8bit sound (or the kilobyte equivelent in other recording rates) your system outright BOMBS!!!!
: Here's the Next answers on this one kiddies:
: "...
: + Playing or recording large 8kHz mulaw sound files can panic or hang a machine under Release 3.1.
: + Occasional dropouts (intermittent loss of audio) may occur during playback starting at 22Khz under heavy system load.
: ..."
: In otherwords next doesn't promise that you'll get anykind of consistent sound. They also didnt promise to improve this for 3.2, so it may be best to wait for a while (if you can) before you get this thing. That is, unless others have had different experiences. Just my $.02.
: Later, John
All these works fine in Linux, even at 44.1KHz and it doesn't have the above problems
So I suspect it is yet another device driver flaw that should be fixed in NS 3.2
Dan
From: pl0124@psilink.com (Steven C. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 1540B and NEC CDR 37
Date: 17 Sep 1993 21:01:09 -0500
Organization: scp
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <2957399030.2.pl0124@psilink.com>
I have the Adaptec AHA 1540B SCSI and the Nec CDR-37 CD reader. I
believe that I have them correctly set up to install NS/FIP:
AHA 1540B
SCSI ID 7
Terminators installed
DMA ch 5
Interrupt 11
port address 330h
NEC CDR-37
SCSI ID 0
Termination on
NSFIP prints a line of grahics symbols (clubs) when it registers sd0.
It reports no valid disk label, block size 0 bytes and capacity 0 MB on
sd0. It gives the correct block size and capacity for hd0 with no
valid disk label.
It panics when it tries to boot from rootdev 600. Then I get the RDP
exception 6, code 3, subcode 0, message.
I have tried the floppy eject and it did not help. I have tried the CD
at ID 0, 1, and 6 with no difference.
Rest of the equipment: 486-33 VESA LB MB, ET4000 VESA LB, serial
mouse, IDE drive, 3.5 floppy.
Any other suggestions?
TIA,
Steven C. Perkins pl0124@psilink.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: Please Re-Think Using DPT 2012B Controller on Intel GX/Pro
Message-ID: <Sep18.054607.71743@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 05:46:07 GMT
References: <276c84$1rm@inxs.concert.net> <1993Sep16.164938.21456@BlueRose.com>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
> One of my customers has had a lot of problems with the DPT
> 2012B Controller on the Intel box - "it just doesn't work."
>
> Both of us have been in contact with Intel's Customer Service
> Center (THEY ARE EXCELLENT AS FAR AS SUPPORT AND INFORMATION)
> and Intel's position right now is to use Adaptec's 1542C
> instead of the DPT.
That's funny. I've tried the Adaptec 1540C on the Intel
GX/ Professional (literally the same card as the 1542C except the
floppy controller chip and port are missing... even though the
dip switch to "enable" them is still there).
Result? Nothing. The card's self diagnostics would always fail,
they never got a single DMA transfer to work. Try the card in an
Epson box? No problem. Try a second 1540C in the Intel. Same
problem.
I eventually had to exchange the 1540C's for 1540B's to get them
to work with the Intel GX (identically configured, same
interrupts etc.). Is anyone succesfully using a 1540C or 1542C in
the GX box?
--
Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation
Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
| ... couldn't have been ME
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Date: 18 Sep 1993 04:17:34 -0700
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Message-ID: <27eqoe$p3e@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
References: <1993Sep17.103134.28568@coco.ms.washington.edu> <CAP.93Sep17121718@bawdy.cs.cmu.edu>
I'm using the DEC3160 also but have decided to run it externally
because of it running hot the way it does. I demo'd a few DEC drives
because of that winyness but concluded it was a feature I had to live with.
By the way. I left my internal slot empty and occasionally have problems
booting up cleanly. I changed the default drive address in my ROM monitor
but am wondering if I missed something.
maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kohno@ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Fujimasa Kohno)
Subject: Re: 13w3 connector for color megapixel display
Message-ID: <1993Sep18.125017.26179@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Sender: news@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp
Organization: Dept. of Information Science, Kyoto University, JAPAN
References: <27b4o7$7p9@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 12:50:17 GMT
Sun deals with these cable.
13w3 <-> 13w3
13w3 <-> BNC
I made it by myself.
--
Fujimasa Kohno
From: mandel@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu (Hector Mandel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with new SERIAL driver
Date: 18 Sep 1993 13:59:29 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27f481$sk@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <26og33$ovj@newscast.West.Sun.COM>
: I followed the instructions to the letter:
: 1. Use Config to Remove the Serial Drivers
: 2. Install the new drivers
: 3. Use Config to Add the Serial Drivers
: 4. Restart
: My system works fine. Haven't really wrung it out at 38.4K with uucp, but
: tip works.
What happens when your system gets an incoming uucico?
--
===============================================================================
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Head, Health Physics Section |Snail mail: 101 S. Gregory St.
Division of Environmental Health and Safety | Urbana, IL 61801
===============================================================================
From: rolfe@berkshire.ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook to NeXTstation
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 18 Sep 1993 13:20:16 GMT
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
Message-ID: <27f1ug$e1@daffy.ldp.com>
References: <CDIF8n.JJw@news.iastate.edu>
Tom Marchioro (tlm@tantalus.scl.ameslab.gov) wrote:
: Fairly soon I'm going to be regularly interfacing a Powerbook (a 180 c I
: think) with my NeXTstation. Before this blessed event occurs, I thought
: I'd solicit advice from the networld as to the best way to accomplish this
: task.
I regularly see Shiva Fastpath IVs (the older model) advertised on the
net for about $175. I'd pick up one of these, hook one side to the
NeXT ethernet port, the other to the Powerbook Appletalk port and ftp
away. You'd also be able to telnet directly from the Mac, etc. If
you're feeling particularly flush, you could also add NFS/Share from
Intercon Systems to mount a NeXT volume on the Mac.
--
Rolfe Tessem Lucky Duck Productions
rolfe@ldp.com 96 Morton Street
(212) 463-0029 New York, NY 10014
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mzeller@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Meinrad Zeller)
Subject: Re: Welcome to the world of horrors (Intel 486)
Message-ID: <XEEHB4PL@gwdu03.gwdg.de>
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
References: <1993Sep15.210719.502@CAM.ORG!planon>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 15:32:31 GMT
stephane@planon.qc.ca wrote:
[stuff deleted]
: I hate Intel-based computer. Please give me an alternative.
You are so right. Give us NS on a decent hardware platform, the
end user is able to afford. HP is nice, but just too expensive
for the avarge NS user. I would love to see NS on a Power PC
environment with a PCI bus architecture (take Aplle e.g.).
The power chip is cheap compared to the pentium (and better)
and the PCI bus seems to become the new standard - so eventually
there should be a big variety of graphics and IO cards at
a good price.
My 2 cents
Meinrad
--
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Foehrenweg 1
D-37077 Goettingen
Tel.: +49-551-300095
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kevin@pygmy.bigtree.com (Kevin D. Baranski-Walker)
Subject: Re: Apple CD-300 Does it work with NeXT 3.1
Message-ID: <CDKA1u.LAC@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
References: <CDGM06.36M@lotus.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 18:01:05 GMT
In article <CDGM06.36M@lotus.com> bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon)
writes:
>
> The external Apple CD 300 works just fine with NS 3.1 on NeXT hardware
(I
> imagine that it works just fine on NS/Intel as well). Every CD-ROM disk
format
> that I've tried with the drive has worked -- NeXT, Macintosh, DOS, ISO
9660,
> High Sierra, Audio, photoCD.
>
> --bob
Not only does the CD300 work well, it's got to be THE best deal around
today. $379-399 in the bay area and that includes 9 or so titles
(of course mostly Mac specific though)
- kevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: '030 Serial cables
Message-ID: <CDKBH1.6J2@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <147894@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 18:31:48 GMT
In article <147894@netnews.upenn.edu> nagelc@landru.cpr.upenn.edu writes:
>the Mac cables I have attached to my modem don't work. The thing is, I don't know what I need instead: NeXTconnection says their cable is the same as a Mac cable without the apple on it.
>
>What do I do?
I don't know of anywhere else to buy cables for Black Hdwr but you can
tell a supplier what you need by giving them a diagram of the pinouts
you need. man zs to see what the cable needs to look like.
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From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Eclipse DAT & DOS
Date: 18 Sep 1993 19:25:05 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <27fnah$3j0@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I have an Eclipse DAT connected to the NeXTdimension. Now I am trying
to use it on a DOS system, using Adaptec's SCSI board and software.
Adaptec recognizes the Eclipse, but I cannot find a driver for Eclipse.
I am quite ignorant in these matters. Any help and pointers will be
much appreciated. Thanks.
Heikki Ketola
hketola@sms-usa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bau@cs.cornell.edu (David Bau)
Subject: Need help with AWFUL graphics quality using ATI GUP XLR & NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Sep18.203125.12155@cs.cornell.edu>
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 20:31:25 GMT
Hello net world. My brand-new Gateway 66/V arrived last week, and
I just installed NS/FIP on it! However, I'm very unhappy right now.
Here's my problem: the display is distorted so that vertical lines
appear rippled, with the ripples moving up and down. The display
is otherwise readable, bright, and sharp, but the rippling distortes
the image by several pixel-widths and makes the display completely
unusable. The strange thing is that this problem does not occur
under Windows in exactly the same resolution: under Windows at
1024-resolution, my graphics display is rock solid and undistorted.
Both choices of resolution and all refresh rates using the ATI GUP
driver under NS cause distortion. The default VGA driver does not
cause any distortion at all.
My graphics hardware: the new ATI GUP (XLR) VESA card (with 2MB VRAM)
that Gateway just started shipping, and a new Nanao T560i that seems
to otherwise perform very well.
Has anybody else had this problem? Any suggestions for a fix? I
purchased this computer expressely to run NS/FIP, so until I fix this
problem, I have a $6000 piece of junk.
David
From: cjs@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher J. Seline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Does HP LaserJet 4 ML work [well] with slab?
Date: 18 Sep 1993 21:16:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Message-ID: <27fts2$jee@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
I'd like to replace my next laser printer with a HP 4ML (designed for Macs)
and I was wondering if anyone has any experience or suggestions for this.
The 4ML supposedly has PS level 2.
thanks in advace,
cjs@occs.cs.oberlin.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: Thanks for all the tips about the Ethernet card
Message-ID: <1993Sep18.213643.23055@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA
References: <27fts2$jee@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 21:36:43 GMT
Thanks to all that responded to my post about the choice of Ethernet
card for NS/I. Here is the summary.
DON'T BUY THE 3c509 CARD!!!
BUY THE INTEL CARD!!!
By choosing to not follow this advice, large amounts of fresh fruit will fall
on your head.
Again,
thanks
greg
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does HP LaserJet 4 ML work [well] with slab?
Date: 19 Sep 1993 00:46:27 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <27ga53$f22@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <27fts2$jee@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
In article <27fts2$jee@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
Christopher J. Seline <cjs@po.CWRU.Edu> wrote:
>
>
>I'd like to replace my next laser printer with a HP 4ML (designed for Macs)
>and I was wondering if anyone has any experience or suggestions for this.
>The 4ML supposedly has PS level 2.
>
>thanks in advace,
well, It works. I don't have PPD file to control all the options
and paper feeds, but I have not run across any misprints. I
tried the MAC PPD but it doesn't work. I do use a Mac Laserprinter
or HP LJIII/postscript PPD and am satisified with the results. One
thing I'd like to control is he resoulation enhancement. No
problems with WordPerfect.
I was hoping to see the PPD in 3.2. Calls to HP or the Adobe
ftp server did not yield the file (duh, whats NextSTEP?)
Performance is good, and output is good.
The only problem is when the darn thing prints it causes the lights
to flicker in the MOST annoying way. I was going to play with circuits
to find a different one for the printer, but it is not fun. The 4L
does this also. I've been meaning to call HP and annoy them about it.
My home is relatively new (<10 years) and has generally adequate wiring.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Does HP LaserJet 4 ML work [well] with slab?
Message-ID: <1993Sep19.023702.12675@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <27ga53$f22@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 02:37:02 GMT
In article <27ga53$f22@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry
Weiss) writes:
> In article <27fts2$jee@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
> Christopher J. Seline <cjs@po.CWRU.Edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >I'd like to replace my next laser printer with a HP 4ML (designed for
Macs)
> >and I was wondering if anyone has any experience or suggestions for this.
> >The 4ML supposedly has PS level 2.
> >
> >thanks in advace,
> well, It works. I don't have PPD file to control all the options
> and paper feeds, but I have not run across any misprints. I
> tried the MAC PPD but it doesn't work. I do use a Mac Laserprinter
> or HP LJIII/postscript PPD and am satisified with the results.
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce
Subject: NEXTSTEP-Printing-FAQ
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Summary: Frequently Asked Questions about NEXTSTEP and NeXT machines.
Approved: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Expires: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-name: NEXTSTEP-Printing-FAQ
Last-modified: Fri Aug 27 01:27:51 EDT 1993
Version: 3.0
Every four weeks (depending on the phase of the moon) a number of
postings are made to comp.sys.next.announce which are a compilation
of answers to frequently asked questions in the comp.sys.next.*
Usenet newsgroups.
The FAQ list is broken into sections and posted separately. These
sections focus on various aspects of NEXTSTEP and NeXT machines. Items
that appear within sections are not in any particular order, and get
added and removed over time. Posting the sections separately allows
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
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H1. What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP?
H2. What fonts can I use with NEXTSTEP?
H3. How can I save my printable documents to a postscript file?
H4. How can I print only the even or odd pages of a document? I wish print
on both sides by feeding the paper through twice.
H5. How do I get banner pages on my printer output?
H6. How do I get [la]TeX files to print correctly on non-NeXT printers?
H7. What if I have a PostScript font has not been ported to NEXTSTEP?
H8. What color printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP?
H9. How can I make the Page Layout default to A4 in all applications?
H10. /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: syntax error at line 31: `end of file'
unexpected?
H11 How to get TeX with NEXTSTEP to make proper fonts for a 600 dpi
laserwriter?
H12 How to get printer description files (PPD)?
____________________________________________________________________________
Subject: H12 How to get printer description files (PPD)?
[From: peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis)]
Adobe has a mail server and ftp site where you can get .PPD files.
They are:
ps-file-server@adobe.com (put "send help" in the mail body)
and
ftp.mv.us.adobe.com
respectively.
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Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: davel@mindvox.phantom.com (Dave Lowens)
Subject: Recommended Monitors for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <ZR440B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Originator: davel@mindvox
Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com
Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 06:55:58 GMT
About 2 weeks ago I posted a message indicating that our company would be
purchasing roughly 35 new systems for the express purpose of running NeXTSTEP
on them and asked for opinions regarding which monitors would best suit our
needs at the 17" and 21" sizes, assuming quality and not cost was our
priority.
I received a total of 62 responses, as promised the way the available monitors
stacks up right now was:
17" Monitors - Highly Recommended:
Nanao F560iW
NEC 5FG
Sony Multiscan CPD-1730
Ikegami series *Strongly Recommended, but by a very limited number of people*
17" Monitors - Discouraged
Dell UltraScan (Mitsubishi DiamondScan Pro 17") *Strongly Discouraged*
Nec 5FGe
Mag and Viewsoniq models (Mixed reviews, mostly negative)
21" Monitors - Highly Recommended:
Mitsubishi DiamondScan Pro (Dell UltraScan 21")
Nanao series
Sony GDM series
Ikegami series *Strongly Recommended, but by a very limited number of people*
21" Monitors - Discouraged
NEC 6FG series
Viewsoniq
Mag
The brand names that were consistantly good at all sizes are Nanao, Sony and
Ikegami. Manufacturers with with top-notch models in one range and very poor
models in another size, were Mitsubishi and Nec. Manufacturers with either very
mixed or very poor reviews in all sizes were Viewsoniq, Mag and varied low-cost
monitor makers.
I'm sure there are exceptions, bad luck getting a lemon and of course this is
far from complete, it's only a example of people reading comp.sys.next.misc who
felt strongly enough about the topic to take the time to reply to me one way or
another.
The one running comment made constantly is if at all possible you should try to
look at the monitor you want to buy, running on the machine and OS you want it
to be running with, before laying down money. In practice this can be a little
hard sometimes, so this was the summary.
Thanks to all who participated!
From: rawyatt@girtab.usc.edu (Robert Alexander Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Apple LaserWriter Pro 630 and NEXTSTEP
Date: 19 Sep 1993 00:41:44 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: rawyatt@girtab.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27h2fo$doq@girtab.usc.edu>
Is anyone using a LaserWriter Pro 630 from Apple with NEXTSTEP for Intel?
Any success stories? Horror stories?
Thanks!
-Rob
rawyatt@scf.usc.edu (no NeXTmail please...)
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cheapest alternative to set up a color PC/NSI
Date: 19 Sep 1993 11:16:35 +0300
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27h4h3$1d@cc.tut.fi>
After thinking of switching to 486 NS I came to decision that my old
030 is too old and I need an update. 486DX/50 motherboards with one or two
local bus connectors are relatively cheap nowdays - that's not the problem.
The problem is the display card. I want color. Definately. I've used
my 030 cube with a Megapixel display a way too long and now I want some
color, too, but it shouldn't cost too much. I haven't been working
with PC systems before, can normal VGA monitor display 1024x768 screen?
How about 1280x1024? I was thinking of 16 bit color with 1024x768.
Display controller should be fast (localbus I suppose). Any suggestions?
Another thing, can Adaptec's scsi controllers handle floppy drive?
Someone told me that NeXT's Adaptec driver does not support floppy - offically.
Now what the hell does that mean, does it work or doesn't? I don't need
sound nor ethernet, so that part should be easy. Does anyone know any
good (=cheap) alternatives for Adaptec's card? As far as I know they are
fairly expensive...
--
Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks
Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
From: pl0124@psilink.com (Steven C. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What SCSI controller with Apple CD-300?
Date: 19 Sep 1993 08:26:26 -0500
Organization: scp
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <2957526643.1.pl0124@psilink.com>
Several people have posted that they use the Apple CD-300 CD-ROM drive.
Would those running _ NS/FIP 3.1 _ please post the make and model of
their SCSI controllers and any information on the ease of use or lack
thereof during the install process?
I want to use it with the Adaptec AHA 1540B and wish to know if any one
else has done so.
Much thanks,
Steven C. Perkins pl0124@psilink.com
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Date: 19 Sep 1993 15:17:50 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <27ht6u$h0g@ni.umd.edu>
References: <1993Sep17.103134.28568@coco.ms.washington.edu> <CAP.93Sep17121718@bawdy.cs.cmu.edu> <27eqoe$p3e@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
In article <27eqoe$p3e@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) writes:
>By the way. I left my internal slot empty and occasionally have problems
>booting up cleanly. I changed the default drive address in my ROM monitor
>but am wondering if I missed something.
I'm just guessing, but the fact that the "internal" end of the SCSI
bus no longer being terminated doesn't seem like a good thing to me.
Recall that internal disk drives have SCSI bus termination enabled.
Louis Mamakos
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Simple MIDI interface for NeXTcube?
Date: 19 Sep 1993 16:48:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <27i2go$njg@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
I already checked the latest FAQ for this one, nothing.
I have heard some discussion about various higher end MIDI interfaces for the
NeXT, rack mount powered interfaces and whatnot, I am wondering if there is a
simple 1 in 1 out interface which is recommended for use with an '040 cube.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
--
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From: thsscvc@iitmax.iit.edu (Chris Conley)
Subject: 486 or Pentium board for Cubes
Message-ID: <1993Sep19.180702.13827@iitmax.iit.edu>
Keywords: 486 Pentium Cubes
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 93 18:07:02 GMT
I thought I'd bring up a topic that was discussed long back. Does anyone
know of any hardware vendor that might create a 486 or Pentium board
for the venerable Cube?
NEC was thinking about it a while back. Did they get enough support to
justify it?
I guess they would need hardward info/engineering help from Canon..?
Any info out there?
Later,
Chris Conley
Institute of Design, IIT
Chicago
p.s. Has anyone thrown together a 16 bit color NSFIP system for under 3500.00?
Most of what gets talked about on the net are heavy duty systems.
Will the release of more drivers bring the price of entry down?
Thanks for any comments.
From: Aaron Herskowitz <aherskow@alleg.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Cube OD as External OD on Slab?!
Date: 19 Sep 1993 18:20:18 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27i7t2$4d2@ftp.alleg.edu>
Does anyone know if it would be possible to take an old OD from a NeXT Cube
ÿand get an external case with a power supply for it and connect it to a
NeXTstation? I would rather have it on the SCSI chain, but any port
connection would do.
I am pretty sure that the OD is not a SCSI device, so I doubt that this can
ÿbe done very easily, but I thought that I would ask just in case.
Thanks for any info,
Aaron
From: qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu (Feng Qiu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Boot to DOS from a second hard disk?
Date: 19 Sep 1993 18:56:50 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu>
My system is a 486/DX2 66MHz with a 525 M hard disk loaded with
NeXTStep3.1. I have a second hard disk bootable for DOS and Windows but
without NeXTStep partition. My question is how can you boot to the second
hard disk to DOS? Now in order to run DOS(I have no SoftPC) I have to
disconnect the hard disk for NeXTStep and set it at master mode then
reboot.
Any opinions?
Fen
qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does HP LaserJet 4 ML work [well] with slab?
Date: 19 Sep 1993 20:24:34 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <27if62$7r6@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <27ga53$f22@news.acns.nwu.edu> <1993Sep19.023702.12675@cs.yale.edu>
In article <1993Sep19.023702.12675@cs.yale.edu>,
Nathan F. Janette <nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu> wrote:
>In article <27ga53$f22@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry
>Weiss) writes:
>> well, It works. I don't have PPD file to control all the options
>> and paper feeds, but I have not run across any misprints. I
>> tried the MAC PPD but it doesn't work. I do use a Mac Laserprinter
[Misc deleted]
>From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu>Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce
>Subject: NEXTSTEP-Printing-FAQ
>H12 How to get printer description files (PPD)?
>
>____________________________________________________________________________
>
>Subject: H12 How to get printer description files (PPD)?
>
>[From: peter@beast.math.ualberta.ca (Peter Karbaliotis)]
>
>Adobe has a mail server and ftp site where you can get .PPD files.
>
>They are:
>
> ps-file-server@adobe.com (put "send help" in the mail body)
>and
>
> ftp.mv.us.adobe.com
>
>respectively.
>
The HP 4M,4ML ppd files are not on the FTP server. There is a
00README that refers HP users to contact HP. As I think mentioned
in my posting, Hewlett Packard has windoze/mac info/drivers but
no plain PPD files they could send me when I called (4 weeks ago).
The other material Nathan posted is of course highly relevant to the
ONW question.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What SCSI controller with Apple CD-300?
Date: 19 Sep 1993 21:16:06 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Message-ID: <27ii6m$co1@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2957526643.1.pl0124@psilink.com>
Summary: Adaptec 1542B works fine
Steven C. Perkins asks:
>Several people have posted that they use the Apple CD-300 CD-ROM drive.
>Would those running _ NS/FIP 3.1 _ please post the make and model of
>their SCSI controllers and any information on the ease of use or lack
>thereof during the install process?
>
>I want to use it with the Adaptec AHA 1540B and wish to know if any one
>else has done so.
The Adaptec 1542B works fine with my AppleCD 300. The 1540B--the 1542B
without the floppy controller--should work fine, too. I have the jumpers
on the Adaptec set just as described in the NeXTanswers note. I'm using
an active terminator on the back on the CD-ROM drive. Let's see, what
else (scratch, scratch), oh, and the SCSI ID for CD-ROM drive is set to
1, and the ID for my internal SCSI hard drive is 0, and of course if
you have both internal and external SCSI devices connected to the
Adaptec, you need to remove the built-in terminators on the controller
card. And back when I got the NeXTanswers note about the 1542B, the
ASCII-only version didn't list the jumper settings, so unless they've
fixed this you need to get the PostScript version of the note, a fax
from the fax-back service, or make a call to NeXT to get a paper copy.
One last note: although the 1542B will support hard drives larger than
1GB under DOS (with the BIOS upgrade available from Adaptec), you can
only use the first 1024MB under NEXTSTEP. NeXT knows about the problem;
Adaptec tech support didn't have a solution. I understand that this
isn't a problem with the 1542C.
Best,
Mitch Gass
mitch@mills.edu
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Cube OD as External OD on Slab?!
Date: 19 Sep 1993 21:46:17 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Message-ID: <27ijv9$lrm@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <27i7t2$4d2@ftp.alleg.edu>
In article <27i7t2$4d2@ftp.alleg.edu>,
Aaron Herskowitz <aherskow@alleg.edu> wrote:
>Does anyone know if it would be possible to take an old OD from a NeXT Cube
>and get an external case with a power supply for it and connect it to a
>NeXTstation? I would rather have it on the SCSI chain, but any port
>connection would do.
>I am pretty sure that the OD is not a SCSI device, so I doubt that this can
>be done very easily, but I thought that I would ask just in case.
It's not a SCSI device, I seem to remember; isn't it ESDI, with
its controller integral to the Cube motherboard? I suppose you
have a good reason (licenses, maybe) for not wanting to just
keep the Cube going until it melts (or someone asks to you
donate it to a magnesium pyre :-).
--
[Jess Anderson <> Division of Information Technology, University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu {o"o} UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
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From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: Please Re-Think Using DPT 2012B Controller on Intel GX/Pro
Message-ID: <CDMHBo.9J6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
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References: <276c84$1rm@inxs.concert.net> <1993Sep16.164938.21456@BlueRose.com> <Sep18.054607.71743@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 22:33:22 GMT
In article <Sep18.054607.71743@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes:
>
>I eventually had to exchange the 1540C's for 1540B's to get them
>to work with the Intel GX (identically configured, same
>interrupts etc.). Is anyone succesfully using a 1540C or 1542C in
>the GX box?
>
Yeah -- a 1542C. It has no problems passing any of the self
diagnostics. Occasionally during the NeXTSTEP boot I get a rootdev
600 "vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root" error, but I can press reset
and it works the next time. Once it boots everything runs fine -- I'm
not sure if the Adaptec is the source of the problem. It's not *too*
annoying so I haven't messed with changing the SCSI ID of the hard
drive yet.
BTW, I'm using an EISA slot since the hard drive takes up most
of the ISA slot space. IRQ 11, DMA 5.
Rob
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From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: S3 Graphics on DEC MTE-d2: 1280*1024*16bit... Is it Great?
Message-ID: <CDMKvI.9tM@phcs.com>
Keywords: Intel Display Video
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <27atte$slo@fermat.mayo.edu>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 23:50:05 GMT
In article <27atte$slo@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu writes:
>From NeXTAnswers... document 1329
>
>>The NEXTSTEP Release 3.1 S3 display driver supports the integrated
>>S3 graphics chipset on the Dell M series, the Dell L series, and
>>the DEC MTE d2 series. On the DEC MTE d2 with S3-928 and 4MB of
>>video RAM the driver supports1280x1024 16 bit color graphics. At
>>the time of this writing that is the highest resolution color
>>solution available
>>
>> DEC MTE-d2 system: 4 MB VRAM supports 1280x1024 w/ Localbus S3-928
>> [DEC MTE-d2 (S3 805 and S3 928 versions): driver update required]
>>
>>Known Problems:
>>[none]
>
>Has anybody seen this? Benchmarked this? Is is as fast as ATI GUP? Faster?
>Is it worth it?
>
>Inquiring minds want to know;-)
>
>- Geoff
The folks over at Advance 2000 have EISA/VL systems running S3s @ 1280x1024.
I was on the phone with them early last week (because I ordered a system
from them) and they were playing around with it. A techie from Next was
coincidentally there and I spoke with him, too. Their (Advance's) S3 was
running well and the Next guy was impressed.
The S3-928 with the driver that Advance has is supposedly slight faster than
the ATI if both are using 2MB. I don't know what the downside is to running
with 4MB.
As far as being worth it, the Next rep said the Icons were a little too
small to navigate well. The caveat here though is that they were showing
it to him on a low-end 17" monitor. I bet it would be a real joy on a
19" or possibly on a 17" Nanao.
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From: tutui@ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takashi TSUTSUI)
Subject: NSFIP worked fine with PCI + 805 on PCI
Message-ID: <TUTUI.93Sep20111426@pipi.ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Sender: news@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp
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Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 02:14:26 GMT
Ns FIP worked fine with PCI MB + 805 PCI Display card at VGA/SVGA mode
+ Adaptec 1542B/C on isa. The Mb have phoenix bios for PCI.
The performance is good enough but I have not enough memory to use
NSFIP, my memory size is 4MB * 2, I still cannot figure out the
true performance of the system.
NeXTSTEP worked fine with colour. :o
The MB is made in thailand, using intel Version 2 saturn chipset, there are no
further large chips on the MB, except NCR SCSI II IF, 256kb write back
Cache (expandable to 512), and 2 bank 32bit*2*2 simm slots.
I have heard that there are some problems on the 'data acknowledge?'
when used with OS2. But I use nextstep without problems.
I forgot the brand of the MB, but there seems only 2 vendors of MB on PCI
market in Thailand. My one have a title PCI system... on the board.
I will try on PCI IDE cache card for the NSFIP.
I will make report on further detail.
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From: tutui@ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takashi TSUTSUI)
Subject: Re: NS/I on a notebook?
In-Reply-To: ebaenen@tolkien.afit.af.mil's message of Tue, 14 Sep 1993 18:46:03 GMT
Message-ID: <TUTUI.93Sep20113155@pipi.ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Sender: news@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp
Organization: Dept. of Medinfo. kyoto Univ. Hospital
References: <1993Sep14.184603.29749@afit.af.mil>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 02:31:55 GMT
>This is my first time posting to Usenet so I hope this works...
>
>Has anyone tried to load/use NS/I on a notebook? If so, what is your
>opinion of its performance? How does NS/I work on 640 x 480 pixels (1024
>x 760 or so pixels supported simultaneous external - but no graphics
>accelerator)? I have a Gateway Nomad notebook (486 50MHz DX2, 200 MB HD,
>8 MB of memory, SCSI adapter) that I would like to try and load NS/I on.
>
>I have a fair amount of experience with NS on black hardware but am
>ashamed to say I don't know much about NS/I. I do know that I am bloody
>sick and tired of using DOS/Windows and Suns.
>
>Also, I am trying to purchase a used 040 Cube and would like to purchase a
>CDROM drive to work with BOTH systems... any suggestions?
>
>______________________________________________________________________
>Capt Eric Baenen, USAF
>Air Force Institute of Technology
>School of Computer Engineering
>ebaenen@afit.af.mil
>[NeXTmail very welcome]
My friend is rich enough to buy for the Notebook for NSFIP. He bought the
AST TFT colour note book. He bought also 1000$ 16MB special simm for that.
His NeXT step seems to work fine with B/W mode. The trouble, I think, is
the scroll blink. The VGA cards on notebook is not so fine, with all models.
By the way. I can show you the bechmark we tried, using dhrystone test.
Mips Machine Dhrystone/VAX11780dhrystone
4.7 duo Dock(040/33Mhz) 8241/1757
8.2 SUN4 14483/1757
10.2 AST (25MHz 486SL) 18007/1757 <---May be tried with gcc+bsd?
NSFIP gcc is faster
12 IPC(-O4) 21739/1757
14.6 NEXT(040) 25773/1757 <-----black cube upgraded25Mhz
17.8 ELC 31446/1757
17.9 hiuxm 31479/1757
19 Intel PC (486DX 33MHz)SIC(cc -O4) 44843/1757
25.9 PCI(486DX2 33Mhz) 45592/1757 (Bsd+gcc) -> 33mips, if next step
33 486DX2 33 NeXT STEP
33.7 Sparc Classic(Gcc) 59171/1757
If you have enough time, I suggest, you`d better try yourself for NS for
the other 486DX2 notebooks.
AST is listed to work NSFIP on the NEXT co.'s list.
AST's NB is upgradable with cpu cards, and the battery sustains
for a long time, but seems to cost too much to use too weak cpu
power right now.
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Dept. of Medical Informatics ,KYOTO Univ. Hospital
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From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Q: who uses a MO drive like the Fujitsu with his NeXT
Message-ID: <1993Sep20.064115.13045@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Keywords: MO NEXT NeXT
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 06:41:15 GMT
Hi NeXT land,
I'm thinking about buying a 128MB type MO drive with my NeXT station
color. Are there any pitfalls like type of SCSII, internal/
external, drivers, etc.
Who is using the Fujitsu 2811 (number out of my head)?
If you have alternatives, also tell what they cost.
Willem
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Date: 20 Sep 1993 01:34:56 -0700
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Message-ID: <27jpvg$5li@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
References: <1993Sep17.103134.28568@coco.ms.washington.edu> <CAP.93Sep17121718@bawdy.cs.cmu.edu> <27eqoe$p3e@spock.dis.cccd.edu> <27ht6u$h0g@ni.umd.edu>
Give that man a cigar!
Terminating the internal bus was so obvious. Thanks again.
maurices
From: A4431GAB@AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UniVie.AC.AT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Q: NeXTStep /86 on the Micronics EISA/VL ?
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 13:11:48 MEZ
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center (VUCC)
Message-ID: <16C4FB994.A4431GAB@AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UniVie.AC.AT>
Does anybody know if NeXTStep for Intel works on a Micronics EISA/VL mother-
board ? IØve heard rumors that the BIOS is not compatible or that the BIOS
corrects some hardware error ans, as NeXT doesnØt use it, it won~t work or
or or..
Can anybody clarify this please ?
Thanks,
Roland
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From: mihe@gordon.enea.se (Mike Henry)
Subject: Re: Please Re-Think Using DPT 2012B Controller on Intel GX/Pro
Message-ID: <1993Sep20.112203.23048@enea.se>
Sender: usenet@enea.se
Organization: ENEA DATA AB, Stockholm, Sweden
References: <276c84$1rm@inxs.concert.net> <1993Sep16.164938.21456@BlueRose.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 11:22:03 GMT
In article <1993Sep16.164938.21456@BlueRose.com> m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes:
>The DPT 2012 has been superceded by the 2022. Anyone who buys a 2012 now
>is making a mistake.
I wonder if buying the DPT 2022 also is a mistake. I have an Intel GX
and have tried repeatedly to install the DPT according to NeXTanswers
and everything without success.
Has anybody done managed to get this combo to work? If so please get
in touch.
Thanks in advance!!
>M Carling
-Mike
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 13w3 connector for color megapixel display
Message-ID: <CDMC76.649@infoserv.com>
Date: 19 Sep 93 20:42:42 GMT
References: <27b4o7$7p9@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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In article <27b4o7$7p9@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) writes:
#Hi,
#
#I am looking for a 13w3 connector that integrates the RGB signals into one
#connector on the back of the color megapixel displays. Most monitors have
#RGB BNC connectors, but NeXT decided to change to this very rare connector.
It's not that rare. The Mac uses a 15 to 13W3 cable for some monitors.
If you find one of the Mac cables you can use a simple 15 pin D to 15 pin
high density converter.
The Mac cables are pretty easy to find.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
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Subject: Re: UPS Pinouts for APC-400
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Date: 19 Sep 93 20:51:39 GMT
References: <1993Sep17.012805.1906@gleap.sccsi.com>
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In article <1993Sep17.012805.1906@gleap.sccsi.com> clloyd@gleap (Charles C.
Lloyd) writes:
#
#I am trying to employ "upsd" (from cs.orst.edu) to monitor my APC-400
#uninteruptable power supply. I am not sure about how to build a cable to
#connect it to my serial port. Could someone send me a pinout diagram for
this?
#
What's the path for upsd? Or could someone mail it to me.
I'm planning on getting a UPS soon. I'll figure out the cable onece I have
the SW and the UPS.
Kent
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From: rolfe@excalibur.ldp.com (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Micropolis Drives
Date: 20 Sep 1993 15:13:14 GMT
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
Message-ID: <27khaa$380@daffy.ldp.com>
I'm considering replacing my /spool/news drive with something larger,
and the Micropolis 1750 (1.75gig) or 2100 (2.1gig) seem like good
choices. Any reason to be steered toward or away from either of these
drives? This will be an external drive (obviously) on a Station.
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From: bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov (Cary Bakker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP!!!!! Has anyone set up a NeXT with a HP550C printer???
Date: 20 Sep 1993 15:54:29 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <27kjnl$4i4@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
I'm trying to do just that. If you have done it, know how to do it,
or think you can help, please reply and I'll send you the specifics.
Thanks,
Cary A. Bakker (NeXT Mail preferred)
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From: jmbreuer@trek.nbg.sub.org
Subject: Re: how to mount a DOS-OD with NS-3.1 ?
Message-ID: <1993Sep19.123747.3540@trek.nbg.sub.org>
Organization: private
References: <25kutc$s9c@bock.freiburg.sub.org>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 12:37:47 GMT
admin@bock.freiburg.sub.org (FreiNet Administrator) writes:
>Hi,
>i want to know if it is possible to mount a external OD which is DOS
>formatted !
>Every time i put the OD into the drive (it's a sony :) the NeXT give me
>the choice to format the disk as an unix or mac disk. But he doesn't
>recognize that this disk is already formatted as a DOS disk :-(
>The NeXT is a "black" machine running NS 3.1.
Well, I don't know about NS 3.1 (yet :-), but under 3.0 it is not possible
to format disks larger than 1.44 MB with a DOS filesystem, nor is it
possible to mount DOS-Harddisk-Filesystems (probably too FAT ;-).
>If anyone has managed this with success, please give me a hint !!!
>- Flo
So long,
Joe
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From: djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Questions about SCSI tape drives and Nextstep
Date: 20 Sep 1993 18:15:39 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <27ks0b$13l@transfer.stratus.com>
Has anyone tried using a cartridge tape drive with Nextstep?
I have tried a Wangtec 5150s, Archive 2150s, and an Archive python 4mm DAT.
The ONLY one that will work is the DAT! I have tried all of them with the
posted SCSI tape driver fix.
Configuration:
Adaptec 1542-C
HD scsi id 0
tape scsi 5
All devices are internal & work fine under DOS & Unix.
-david jepson-
Stratus Computer Inc.
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From: bnh@active.com (Brian Hess)
Subject: Another PAS-16 help request?
Message-ID: <1993Sep20.175719.27023@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 17:57:19 GMT
Anybody have this configuration and suggestions for getting the PAS-16 to
not go into it's infinite-repeat mode?
My config:
Device DMA IRQ
Mouse 12 (Logitech Bus)
Serial1 3
Serial2 4
Ethernet 10 (Intel EtherExpress16C)
Keybd 1
Floppy 2 6
IDE 3 14
SCSI 5 11 (Adaptec 1542B)
It's on a Gateway2000 486-DX2/66, older version, that didn't require the
keyboard jumper to be moved.
I have tried various available IRQ's (which amounts to 2, 7, 12, 15 for me)
and also tried the DMA channel 1 change as an alternate to DMA=7 so as to
get the 8-bit channel. No joy. Under DOS I have had to use DMA=0/IRQ=10
to get it to work! (I don't use the Ethernet board under DOS.) Anybody
have the "ISA w/IDE" configuration and gotten a PAS-16 to work?
Thanks,
Brian
bnh@active.com
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From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka)
Subject: New Gateway Pentium system w/PCI ATI XLR
Message-ID: <CDnyK1.C81@ceco.ceco.com>
Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator)
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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 17:43:12 GMT
Hi. I currently have a 66V system from Gateway and it is running quite nicely,
but now saw the new add mentioning their Pentium based system with PCI
bus ATI w/ 2MB VRAM. Does anyone know if it matters to Nextstep whether
the bus is PCI or VLB?? I'd like to do the upgrade, but the clock is ticking and
I'm wondering if I'm going to end up with a worthless DOS box until some new
drivers come out. (I apologize to anyone who is a DOS fan. ;) ) Anyway, if
anyone knows or has tried this, please let me know via e-mail if possible. Thanks
in advance!
Mike Stepniczka
mikes@ceco.ceco.com
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From: josh@cs.rochester.edu (Josh Tenenberg)
Subject: Help with Printer Installation
Message-ID: <1993Sep20.173842.4017@cs.rochester.edu>
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 17:38:42 GMT
I am in the process of purchasing an HP LaserJet 4ML printer for my
NeXT Station Turbo running NS 3.0. I'm not sure what cable to purchase,
where to get a driver program for this printer (do I need one?),
and how I would install the driver and printer. Any brief pointers on
any of the above would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Josh D. Tenenberg
Department of Mathematics and
Computer Science
Indiana University at South Bend
1700 Mishawaka Avenue
P.O. Box 7111
South Bend, Indiana 46634
(219) 237-4525
fax: (219) 237-4538
josh@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu
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University of Rochester
Rochester, New York 14627-0226
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From: jon@mercury.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Subject: Re: New Gateway Pentium system w/PCI ATI XLR
Message-ID: <CDo3BM.3tD@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
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Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1993 19:26:08 GMT
In article <CDnyK1.C81@ceco.ceco.com> mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael
Stepniczka) writes:
> I'm wondering if I'm going to end up with a worthless DOS box until some
new
> drivers come out. (I apologize to anyone who is a DOS fan. ;) )
Surely there aren't any (many?) DOS fans hanging out here!
:)
--
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help with Printer Installation
Date: 20 Sep 1993 21:46:55 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <27l8cf$bea@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1993Sep20.173842.4017@cs.rochester.edu>
In article <1993Sep20.173842.4017@cs.rochester.edu>,
Josh Tenenberg <josh@cs.rochester.edu> wrote:
>I am in the process of purchasing an HP LaserJet 4ML printer for my
>NeXT Station Turbo running NS 3.0. I'm not sure what cable to purchase,
>where to get a driver program for this printer (do I need one?),
>and how I would install the driver and printer. Any brief pointers on
>any of the above would be much appreciated.
>
This may not be the best choice for you. The printer has built in
support for AppleTalk and Parallel interfaces only. You could get
a serial/parallel converter and use a serial port on the turbo, but
it will cost extra. I'm using the same printer on NS/Intel and it
works fine (NS 3.1). No special "driver" is needed per se, but the
PPD files are not available. I usually use a MAC laser printer defintion
instead. No problems to report. Printer itself is fine, but the
power conservation feature makes my lights blink when when I do print
(ie fuser is not hot all the time). The 4L has the same "feature".
--
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%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Please Re-Think Using DPT 2012B Controller on Intel GX/Pro
Date: 20 Sep 1993 22:35:45 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <27lb81$h8i@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <276c84$1rm@inxs.concert.net> <1993Sep16.164938.21456@BlueRose.com>
In article <1993Sep16.164938.21456@BlueRose.com> m@BlueRose.com (M Carling) writes:
>In article <276c84$1rm@inxs.concert.net> briggman@rock.concert.net (David
>B Briggman -- Personal Account) writes:
>> One of my customers has had a lot of problems with the DPT 2012B
>Controller
>> on the Intel box - "it just doesn't work."
>>
>> Both of us have been in contact with Intel's Customer Service Center
>(THEY
>> ARE EXCELLENT AS FAR AS SUPPORT AND INFORMATION) and Intel's position
>right
>> now is to use Adaptec's 1542C instead of the DPT. It appears to be a
>thermal
>> issue with the DPT card and DPT isn't really helping.
>
>The DPT 2012 has been superceded by the 2022. Anyone who buys a 2012 now
>is making a mistake.
>
>M Carling
>President, Bay Area NeXT Group
I just bought the DPT 2022/95 controller, and could not get nextstep to
boot. A quick call to DPT today revealed that it needed a firmware upgrade.
Very pleasant people at DPT - the upgrade chips should arrive in two days
with detailed instructions.
Varun
From: priestdor@vaxsar.vassar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT printer to a SPARCstation 2 ??
Message-ID: <1993Sep20.172316.832@vaxsar.vassar.edu>
Date: 20 Sep 93 17:23:16 +1000
Organization: Vassar College
Hi,
Has anyone out there connected a NeXT laser printer to a Sun? Any info would be
of value. The NeXT has a 9pin D connector and the instructions are to "plug it
into the cube." Well the cube is dead now. We still have the printer. So, if
anybody has done this (or found other ways to use the printer apart from the
cube), please let me know.
Thanks,
Greg Priest-Dorman
Priestdo@cs.vassar.edu -or- Priestdor@vaxsar.edu
From: reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT printer to a SPARCstation 2 ??
Date: 21 Sep 1993 00:19:35 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <REUVEN.93Sep20201935@puttanesca.mit.edu>
References: <1993Sep20.172316.832@vaxsar.vassar.edu>
<1993Sep20.233101.20458@news.media.mit.edu>
In-reply-to: wave@media.mit.edu's message of Mon, 20 Sep 1993 23:31:01 GMT
>>>>> On Mon, 20 Sep 1993 23:31:01 GMT, wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B.
>>>>> Johnson) said:
Michael> Won't do you any good. The printer is just a dumb one -
Michael> you need the NeXT to RIP the PostScript, [...]
Now that's not quite true... we all know that you can use an Intel
machine running Windows NT to talk to the NeXT laser printer. Just
ask Microsoft.
:-)
Reuven
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From: timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck)
Subject: Booting to DOS from secondary hard drive
Message-ID: <N2GHBMFM@math.fu-berlin.de>
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 00:22:10 GMT
>My system is a 486/DX2 66MHz with a 525 M hard disk loaded with
>NeXTStep3.1. I have a second hard disk bootable for DOS and Windows but
>without NeXTStep partition. My question is how can you boot to the second
>hard disk to DOS? Now in order to run DOS(I have no SoftPC) I have to
>disconnect the hard disk for NeXTStep and set it at master mode then
>reboot.
We have a similar problem with Interactive Unix where I work -- the only
solution I know of is to boot from a DOS floppy. You can reference the
"C:" drive from AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. MS-DOS is stupid enough that
it ignores the non-DOS drive and sets the secondary drive as drive C:.
--
Tim Buck "If I don't do anything I'm ashamed of, I won't
timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu have anything to worry about. Now, getting rid
rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu of the shame, that's the hard part."
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From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Subject: S3-928 on DEC MTE - Does the driver work?
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Hi there,
I have seen some discussion about the S3-928 video card shipped with
the DEC MTE systems. I currently have a DEC MTE sitting beside me,
without a video card, The discussion seemed to imply that the S3-928
will currently support 1280x1024x16-bit, or at least 1024x768.
However the latest edition of the compatibility guide says "Driver
update required". Can someone please definitively tell me whether the
S3-928 from DEC will or will not work with the drivers currently
available, either at 1024x768 or at 1280x1024.
Thanks,
Alastair
--
Alastair Thomson, | Phone +64-3-479-8347
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Department of Computer Science, |
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Dunedin, New Zealand | NeXTmail Welcome
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: S3-928 on DEC MTE - Does the driver work?
Message-ID: <1993Sep21.031731.6370@cs.yale.edu>
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 03:17:31 GMT
In article <CDoHAp.A53@news.otago.ac.nz> alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair
Thomson) writes:
> Hi there,
> I have seen some discussion about the S3-928 video card shipped with
> the DEC MTE systems. I currently have a DEC MTE sitting beside me,
> without a video card, The discussion seemed to imply that the S3-928
> will currently support 1280x1024x16-bit, or at least 1024x768.
> However the latest edition of the compatibility guide says "Driver
> update required". Can someone please definitively tell me whether the
> S3-928 from DEC will or will not work with the drivers currently
> available, either at 1024x768 or at 1280x1024.
It currently works with the "generic" S3 driver in NEXTSTEP 3.1, but
only supports 8-bit greyscale 1024x768. The current guide refers to
the driver update for those extended resolutions you mention.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: S3-928 on DEC MTE - Does the driver work?
Date: 21 Sep 1993 03:13:57 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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References: <CDoHAp.A53@news.otago.ac.nz>
alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) writes:
> I have seen some discussion about the S3-928 video card shipped with
> the DEC MTE systems. I currently have a DEC MTE sitting beside me,
> without a video card, The discussion seemed to imply that the S3-928
> will currently support 1280x1024x16-bit, or at least 1024x768.
> However the latest edition of the compatibility guide says "Driver
> update required". Can someone please definitively tell me whether the
> S3-928 from DEC will or will not work with the drivers currently
> available, either at 1024x768 or at 1280x1024.
"Driver update required" means there is a driver available that is newer
than what came with NS/Intel-3.1 itself.
Check directory pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers on ftp.next.com for it (in
that directory is a bunch of other directories, one for each new driver
that's available).
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 20 Sep 1993 23:04:59 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <27lr0p$khb@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong
elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific
questions about NeXT's implementation or porting
issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups
(comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript,
comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that
may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU
Minor editing: Scott Anguish
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: kapela@poly.edu (Theodore S. Kapela)
Subject: NS/IP w/Phoenix KB controllers: Failures/Successes?
Message-ID: <CDoqnB.29y@poly.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 03:49:59 GMT
I've been having a problem getting NeXTStep/486 installed on
my 486 box. After the mach_kernel is loaded and starts
up, I get a few lines displayed and an immediate reboot.
It looks like it happens after it registers the keyboard,
but it is hard to tell, since the messages go by too quickly.
It is a Mylex motherboard with an AMI bios and a
Phoenix 8242 keyboard controller. This is (supposed to be) another
drop-in replacement for an 8742.
A while ago someone posted a note about Gateway 2000's having
a problem with the Phoenix KB controller, and that replacing it
solved the problem.
My question is this:
How many people are using NeXTStep/486 with a Phoenix keyboard controller.
Should I obtain and drop-in a genuine Intel or AMI KB controller?
--
Theodore S. Kapela
Center for Applied Large-Scale Computing
Polytechnic University
kapela@poly.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bbrown@ganesha
Subject: Re: S3-928 on DEC MTE - Does the driver work?
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References: <CDoHAp.A53@news.otago.ac.nz> <27lrhl$msu@usenet.rpi.edu>
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 06:08:40 GMT
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Hi,
I wish to clear up a couple of inacuuracies.
>> I have seen some discussion about the S3-928 video card shipped with
>> the DEC MTE systems. I currently have a DEC MTE sitting beside me,
>> without a video card, The discussion seemed to imply that the S3-928
>> will currently support 1280x1024x16-bit, or at least 1024x768.
>> However the latest edition of the compatibility guide says "Driver
>> update required". Can someone please definitively tell me whether the
>> S3-928 from DEC will or will not work with the drivers currently
>> available, either at 1024x768 or at 1280x1024.
>"Driver update required" means there is a driver available that is newer
>than what came with NS/Intel-3.1 itself.
That's not what really what it means. The following is a quote from
the Hardware Compatibility Guide.
Driver Update Req. Indicates systems that are compatible with NEXTSTEP
and can run at Standard VGA resolution. Higher resolution support will be
available with a driver update (available August 93).
So, any functionality that is marked "Reg." requires a new driver which is not yet
available, though any machine which makes the Hardware Compatibility Guide
can at least be used with the standard VGA driver. Ignore the "August" promise,
it lies. Any functionality marked "Avail." requires a new driver which is guaranteed
to be available from NeXT.
Occasionally, like right now, the Hardware Compatibility Guide is out of date
w.r.t. the list of available drivers. So, now the Guide lists the S3 driver as
"Req." when it is already sitting in the Drivers directory waiting for folks to
suck it up via FTP. I believe the driver was made available yesterday.
>Check directory pub/NeXTanswers/Files/Drivers on ftp.next.com for it (in
>that directory is a bunch of other directories, one for each new driver
>that's available).
Check out file S3Driver.27753.1 in the Drivers directory. More on this
driver in my next note.
Bill Brown
bbrown@solana.com.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: iok@phgasos.ntua.gr (Ioannis Koutselas)
Subject: HELP PLEASE, STATION'S PS is DEAD ?
Message-ID: <1993Sep21.112016.9407@ntua.gr>
Sender: news@ntua.gr
Organization: National Technical University of Athens, Greece
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 11:20:16 GMT
Hello everyone. I would like a lot of comments on the following
problem, assumed by me to be due to a faulty power supply. I went
out to dinner having left the nextstation on, and wehn i came
back the station was off and WOULD NOT Power on.
Moroever the nextstation`s power supply does not make the
buzz which ued to do when it was connecte to mains.
I have checked the battery which apparently is 3 volts,
i have checked to see if PIN 6--Ground does anything when you
press the power button; what actaully happens and probably
is normal is that upon pressing the power button the
pin-6 becomes ground. So there should a signal to the
mother board.
Please comment. Is there a button to erase any small memory
should i get a new sony ps.
I appreciate your time.
Ioannis Koutselas
.
From: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy))
Subject: Re: Can a PC be used as Terminal on Slab
Message-ID: <HARDY.93Sep20223021@golem.ps.uci.edu>
In-reply-to: jmeacham@clark.net's message of 14 Sep 1993 21:34:57 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Department of Physics, UC Irvine, CA 92717-4575, USA
References: <275de1$c3o@clarknet.clark.net>
Date: 21 Sep 93 05:30:25 GMT
In article <275de1$c3o@clarknet.clark.net> jmeacham@clark.net (James D. Meacham) writes:
??? I just bought a PC laptop (an old Toshiba 1000SE) and I was wondering if
??? anyone had any experience using a PC through a port as a terminal. I
??? don't have a modem for the PC yet, and even if I did it would be a pain in
??? the butt to call from one machine to the NeXT. So, does anyone have any
??? sugeestions on how, if it is possible, this would be accomplished?
??? Thanks in advance.
There is no problem in connecting a laptop to a serial port (I run
kermit on both at 38.4 kB to transfer files back and forth).
Presumably if you run a getty on the srial port (see the manual for
that -- I have not tried it), you will be able to log in as well and
use the laptop as a terminal.
--
Hardy
-----
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e-mail: hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (preferred) or MMAYER@UCI.BITNET
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: New S3 Driver Available
Message-ID: <1993Sep21.140201.3115@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 14:02:01 GMT
The new S3 driver, which supports S3-928 based cards, is now on
ftp.next.com.
Although the readme file claims support of only a limited number of
S3-928 systems (from Dell, DEC, and HP), I would like to know if the
driver will work with other add-in cards (such as the Diamond Stealth
(which is an S3-928 card, if memory serves)). I intend to test
alternatives in the next couple of days, but would like to hear from
anyone who has conducted any tests, or who has specific S2-928 cards
to recommend.
With all good wishes,
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: blackewj@nyssa.Rose-Hulman.Edu (William J. Blackert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printers with an '040 slap
Date: 21 Sep 1993 14:14:19 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Sender: blackewj@nyssa (William J. Blackert)
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I checked the FAQ and didn't see anything on this, but please excuse my general
ignorance of the subject.
I want to connect a printer to an '040 slab. I've heard that there is some
sort of driver out there that allows a HP Deskjet to be attached to a NeXT.
Can someone out there send me some information on it? For instance where
I can find it?
My other question is has anyone tried attaching an Epson ActionLaser to a
NeXT? That's another option, but I'm curious if anyone has tried it before.
Thanks in advance
Bill Blackert
blackewj@cs.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: acsdtb@falcon.depaul.edu (Darius Babanoury)
Subject: Large IDE Drives
Sender: news@hal.depaul.edu (News Admin)
Organization: DePaul University, Chicago
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 14:56:04 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Sep21.145604.29124@hal.depaul.edu>
Has anyone had trouble installing NeXTSTEP on large IDE drives? We
recently received a Dell XPS system with a 450MB IDE hard drive, but
when the machines begins to initialize the drive, it will generate
multiple errors before failing. I have no trouble installing NeXTSTEP
on a 320MB IDE drive, nor do I have trouble installing DOS or OS/2 on
the 450MB IDE drive. I have tried the drive in another machine with
the same results.
The 450MB IDE disk is a Seagate Model ST3550A if that makes a
difference.
I just need to check to see if someone has sucessfully installed
NeXTSTEP on a IDE drive greater than 400MB before I send
this drive back as defective.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
darius
darius@northstar.com
(NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Simple MIDI interface for NeXTcube?
Message-ID: <CDoxBA.zF@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 06:13:57 GMT
In article <27i2go$njg@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex
Currier) writes:
#
#I already checked the latest FAQ for this one, nothing.
#
#I have heard some discussion about various higher end MIDI interfaces for the
#NeXT, rack mount powered interfaces and whatnot, I am wondering if there is a
#simple 1 in 1 out interface which is recommended for use with an '040 cube.
#
#Any suggestions would be appreciated.
An OPcode MidiTranslator will work with the right cable.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: NeXT printer to a SPARCstation 2 ??
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Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 06:16:46 GMT
In article <REUVEN.93Sep20201935@puttanesca.mit.edu> reuven@athena.mit.edu
(Reuven M. Lerner) writes:
#>>>>> On Mon, 20 Sep 1993 23:31:01 GMT, wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B.
#>>>>> Johnson) said:
#
# Michael> Won't do you any good. The printer is just a dumb one -
# Michael> you need the NeXT to RIP the PostScript, [...]
#
#Now that's not quite true... we all know that you can use an Intel
#machine running Windows NT to talk to the NeXT laser printer. Just
#ask Microsoft.
#
#:-)
#
#Reuven
I seem to remember that Sun used a raster printer with the Postscript
interpreter running on the Sparc.
A NeXT printer connected might be possible depending on what the Sparc printer
interface looked like.
Kent
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From: bob@bobsled.cen.encompass.com (Bob Lunney)
Subject: Canon & the Former NeXT Hardware Factory
Message-ID: <1993Sep21.154650.10150@glv.uucp>
Keywords: NeXT, hardware, NRW
Sender: uucp@glv.uucp
Organization: Encompass
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 15:46:50 GMT
Can someone confirm (or deny) this rumor for me? I've heard grumblings
that the deal between Canon and the former NeXT hardware engineers is off
and that the factory has gone on the block. Any truth to these rumors?
--
Bob Lunney
Encompass
+1 919 460 3274
bob@bobsled.glv.com NeXTmail preferred!
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Subject: RE: Questions about SCSI tape drives and Nextstep
Message-ID: <1993Sep21.074844.24424@yang.earlham.edu>
From: rabahya@yang.earlham.edu
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 12:48:40 GMT
References: ,<27ks0b$13l@transfer.stratus.com>
Organization: Earlham College
In Article <27ks0b$13l@transfer.stratus.com>
djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson) writes:
>Has anyone tried using a cartridge tape drive with Nextstep?
>
>I have tried a Wangtec 5150s, Archive 2150s, and an Archive python 4mm DAT.
>The ONLY one that will work is the DAT! I have tried all of them with the
>posted SCSI tape driver fix.
>
>Configuration:
>
>Adaptec 1542-C
>HD scsi id 0
>tape scsi 5
>
>All devices are internal & work fine under DOS & Unix.
>
>-david jepson-
>Stratus Computer Inc.
>#include std. disclamer
can you send me the SCSI tape driver fix david is talking about b/c we are
having problems with reading our back up tapes with the drive they were backed
up with!
---
Jack A. Rabah / | | _
Computer Science Dept. \ | | / \
Earlham College | / | | / \
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From: monheit@decatur.stanford.edu (Mark Monheit)
Subject: Help Installing NSFIP on DEC 466d2 MTE
Message-ID: <MONHEIT.93Sep21104345@decatur.stanford.edu>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Psychology Department, Stanford U.
Date: 21 Sep 93 10:43:45
(sorry if this appears twice)
A friend is trying install NS on the following configuration:
DECpc 466d2 MTE
32MB RAM
3.5 in floppy (at drive a: -- disconnected 5.25 floppy at b:)
Adaptec 1542C SCSI card (replaced the Ultrastor shipped with the DEC)
1GB SCSI Hard drive (at scsi 0)
Apple CD-300
The system boots ok in Dos/Windows, but fails during NS installation.
The error message is something like rootdev:608:20.
It appears that there is a problem reading from the CD-ROM, although
the CD-ROM is identified as a SONY-blah and the volume label on the cd
is read.
The Adaptec is configured according to Nextanswers #1108 and he has
tried setting the ID of the cd-rom to 1 and 6 (among others). We
assume the internal hard drive is properly terminated and the cd is
terminated with the Apple-supplied thingy that goes between the drive
and the cable.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! (You can reply to this
account.)
--Mark Monheit
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From: monheit@decatur.stanford.edu (Mark Monheit)
Subject: Help Installing NSFIP on DEC 466d2 MTE
Message-ID: <MONHEIT.93Sep21103003@decatur.stanford.edu>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Psychology Department, Stanford U.
Date: 21 Sep 93 10:30:03
A friend is trying install NS on the following configuration:
DECpc 466d2 MTE
32MB RAM
3.5 in floppy (at drive a: -- disconnected 5.25 floppy at b:)
Adaptec 1542C SCSI card (replaced the Ultrastor shipped with the DEC)
1GB SCSI Hard drive (at scsi 0)
Apple CD-300
The system boots ok in Dos/Windows, but fails during NS installation.
The error message is something like rootdev:608:20.
It appears that there is a problem reading from the CD-ROM, although
the CD-ROM is identified as a SONY-blah and the volume label on the cd
is read.
The Adaptec is configured according to Nextanswers #1108 and he has
tried setting the ID of the cd-rom to 1 and 6 (among others). We
assume the internal hard drive is properly terminated and the cd is
terminated with the Apple-supplied thingy that goes between the drive
and the cable.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! (You can reply to this
account.)
--Mark Monheit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake)
Subject: Re: how to mount a DOS-OD with NS-3.1 ?
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In article <1993Sep19.123747.3540@trek.nbg.sub.org>,
<jmbreuer@trek.nbg.sub.org> wrote:
>admin@bock.freiburg.sub.org (FreiNet Administrator) writes:
>
>>Hi,
>
>>i want to know if it is possible to mount a external OD which is DOS
>>formatted !
>>Every time i put the OD into the drive (it's a sony :) the NeXT give me
>>the choice to format the disk as an unix or mac disk. But he doesn't
>>recognize that this disk is already formatted as a DOS disk :-(
>>The NeXT is a "black" machine running NS 3.1.
>
>Well, I don't know about NS 3.1 (yet :-), but under 3.0 it is not possible
>to format disks larger than 1.44 MB with a DOS filesystem, nor is it
>possible to mount DOS-Harddisk-Filesystems (probably too FAT ;-).
>
>>If anyone has managed this with success, please give me a hint !!!
>
You'll need 3.1, shouldn't be any problem unless it is Doublespaced,
Stackered, or NT HPFS. By the way, did you know NT can't read DOS 6
Doublespace disks!
I've had no problem with 3.1 reading DOS drives up to 340Mb.
Brian.
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From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake)
Subject: Re: New Gateway Pentium system w/PCI ATI XLR
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In article <CDnyK1.C81@ceco.ceco.com>,
Michael Stepniczka <mikes@ceco.ceco.com> wrote:
>Hi. I currently have a 66V system from Gateway and it is running quite nicely,
>but now saw the new add mentioning their Pentium based system with PCI
>bus ATI w/ 2MB VRAM. Does anyone know if it matters to Nextstep whether
>the bus is PCI or VLB?? I'd like to do the upgrade, but the clock is ticking and
Shouldn't matter. The only bus system that doesn't work with NEXTSTEP is
IBM's MCA.
>I'm wondering if I'm going to end up with a worthless DOS box until some new
>drivers come out. (I apologize to anyone who is a DOS fan. ;) ) Anyway, if
Never, NEVER - apologise to DOS fans.
>anyone knows or has tried this, please let me know via e-mail if possible. Thanks
>in advance!
Brian.>
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From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger)
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Subject: S3 Driver is available from NeXTanswers
Date: 21 Sep 1993 13:47:15 -0500
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The onboard S3 driver is available from NeXTanswers.
Information on device driver updates may be obtained by sending
email to NeXTanswers@next.com with the subject of "INDEX HELP".
You will receive the master index for NeXTanswers.
To obtain drivers via ftp:
use ftp to access ftp.next.com and login as anonymous with any
password and "cd" to /pub. Drivers can be downloaded from the
NeXTanswers directory.
Conrad Geiger
NeXT
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From: l06@aixfile1.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: Q: Quantum LPS-525 as boot drive ?
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 93 19:15:50 GMT
How do I get this slim Quantum 525 Prodrive to serve me as a
nice boot drive in a station ? It has exactly the same size as
the internal Quantum 105's the first stations were shipped with,
and the jumpers are placed in nearly the same manner, but it
happens to hang when you try to boot from it.
Is anyone running this in his station and can tell me were I
have to set the jumpers ?
Thank you,
Gregor
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From: klamb@basalt.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Kathleen Lamb)
Subject: printing to an Apple Laserwriter Plus?
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 17:46:00 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Keywords: printing, Laserwriter
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to attach an Apple Laserwriter Plus
to a NeXT? Has anyone done this sucessfully?
Kathleen Lamb
klamb@mines.colorado.edu
From: shukin@skyfox
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Subject: Cube
Date: 21 SEP 93 20:27:57 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <21SEP93.20275740@skyfox>
I am wondering if
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From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Re: Please Re-Think Using DPT 2012B Controller on Intel GX/Pro
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 15:51:45 GMT
We use the 1542C in Intel GX systems and it works just great (well except for
relatively poor performance). I've used it with old CDC drives, Wren V drives
and MAXTOR MXT1240S drives.
The only problem with the Adapect 1542 is that you can't have it and the
onboard SCSI active at the same time when using NS. This is a major drawback,
but I expect that this will be fixed with new drivers for the Intel GX SCSI.
Dirk
df@watershed.com
In article <Sep18.054607.71743@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake
Stone) writes:
[munch]
> I eventually had to exchange the 1540C's for 1540B's to get them
> to work with the Intel GX (identically configured, same
> interrupts etc.). Is anyone succesfully using a 1540C or 1542C in
> the GX box?
>
> --
> Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation
> Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
> | ... couldn't have been ME
From: bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: image capture for black h/w?
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Date: 21 Sep 93 21:38:02 GMT
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Subject: low cost image capture on black h/w?
Summary:
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Keywords:
Any information about low cost image capturing (e.g. camera + frame grabber)
for an '040 cube would be appreciated. Anybody with a used digital eyes that
they don't need any more?
thanks,
- Gareth
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From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: Simple MIDI interface for NeXTcube?
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In article <CDoxBA.zF@infoserv.com>, <kent@infoserv.com> wrote:
>#NeXT, rack mount powered interfaces and whatnot, I am wondering if there is a
>#simple 1 in 1 out interface which is recommended for use with an '040 cube.
We borrowed and used a Studio 3 last summer and weren't entirely
satisfied with it (I'm getting to the cheap alternative) because it
didn't seem to work consistently from one machine to the next. This
summer we borrowed and used a Link Engineering MIDIlink. We have
ordered one of our own because it performed very well. It costs
something less than $150.
Scott
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From: monheit@samish.stanford.edu (Mark Monheit)
Subject: Re: Help Installing NSFIP on DEC 466d2 MTE
In-Reply-To: monheit@decatur.stanford.edu's message of 21 Sep 93 10:30:03
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Date: 21 Sep 93 15:37:04
To followup up my own post with some more info ...
After trying several SCSI cables and terminators, NS seems to die
consistently with the following error message:
rootdev 608, howto 0 sd1: Media Error; Retrying target: X lun: 0 op
Read Block 124896 Fatal Error no 5
Where 'X' is whatever SCSI ID the CD-ROM reader is set to.
The Apple CD reader is brand new and works fine on a Mac. Could the
Nextstep CD itself be damaged? Or does this seem like a configuration
problem?
There's a case of beer (not to mention eternal gratitude) for anyone
who has the solution.
--mark
In article <MONHEIT.93Sep21103003@decatur.stanford.edu>
monheit@decatur.stanford.edu (Mark Monheit) writes:
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nntp.Stanford.EDU!nntp!monheit From: monheit@decatur.stanford.edu
(Mark Monheit) Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Psychology Department, Stanford U. Date: 21 Sep 93
10:30:03 Lines: 27
A friend is trying install NS on the following configuration: DECpc
466d2 MTE 32MB RAM 3.5 in floppy (at drive a: -- disconnected 5.25
floppy at b:) Adaptec 1542C SCSI card (replaced the Ultrastor
shipped with the DEC) 1GB SCSI Hard drive (at scsi 0) Apple CD-300
The system boots ok in Dos/Windows, but fails during NS
installation.
The error message is something like rootdev:608:20.
It appears that there is a problem reading from the CD-ROM,
although the CD-ROM is identified as a SONY-blah and the volume
label on the cd is read.
The Adaptec is configured according to Nextanswers #1108 and he has
tried setting the ID of the cd-rom to 1 and 6 (among others). We
assume the internal hard drive is properly terminated and the cd is
terminated with the Apple-supplied thingy that goes between the
drive and the cable.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! (You can reply to this
account.)
--Mark Monheit
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From: monheit@samish.stanford.edu (Mark Monheit)
Subject: Re: Help Installing NSFIP on DEC 466d2 MTE
In-Reply-To: monheit@samish.stanford.edu's message of 21 Sep 93 15:37:04
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Date: 21 Sep 93 16:08:04
Apparently a bunch of greasy CDs got shipped. A good cleaning seems
to have solved the problem. (sheesh)
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From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
Subject: External Hard Drive Cases
Message-ID: <1993Sep21.235510.24584@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1993 23:55:10 GMT
Can anyone recommend a good source for external hard drive cases? I'm
looking for the following, in order of importance:
1. Quiet
2. Small
3. Black
I'ld be equally interested in learning of external hard disks that meet
any or all of the above specifications.
Thanks in advance for any pointers,
Scott Roy
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From: baker@keeper.journalism.indiana.edu (Don Baker)
Subject: ALR Evolution V-Q mouse problem
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Has anyone had a problem with the PS/2 bus mouse on the ALR Evolution V-Q
machine. NSIP fails to install on this machine with the following errors:
PCPointer probe: mouseInit failure
Registering: PCKeyboard0
Registering: PCPointer0
The machine is equipped with ATI Graphics Ultra Pro VLB with 2MB, 32MB main
memory, Maxtor 546MB SCSI hard drive (521MB formatted), UltraStor 34f SCSI
adapter, ALR PS/2 BUS mouse, WangTek 525MB SCSI tape backup, 3.5 and 5.25 inch
floppies (3.5 is A:).
As a side note this is the second machine that ALR has sent us. The first one
was still-born.
Our ALR nightmare continues `;-(
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-don
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From: mross@antigone.com
Subject: Serial port A as alternate console
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.002605.3683@antigone.com>
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 00:26:05 GMT
Probably a dumb question:
What exactly can I plug into serial port A when the "Serial port A as alternate
console" option is turned on in the Monitor?
Tried a null-modem cable with a modem and a computer at the other end. Either the
comm parameters are all messed up or I can't do this...
Thanks!
Michael
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From: mross@antigone.com
Subject: Re: Cube
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.002656.3821@antigone.com>
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
References: <21SEP93.20275740@skyfox>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 00:26:56 GMT
shukin@skyfox wrote:
: I am wondering if
I often wonder that myself.... :)
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Help Installing NSFIP on DEC 466d2 MTE
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 01:54:31 GMT
In article <MONHEIT.93Sep21160804@samish.stanford.edu>
monheit@samish.stanford.edu (Mark Monheit) writes:
>
> Apparently a bunch of greasy CDs got shipped. A good cleaning seems
> to have solved the problem. (sheesh)
Also note the new S3 driver has just been announced.
Go NeXT!
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Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow)
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Subject: Re: New S3 Driver Available
Date: 21 Sep 1993 20:56:35 +0200
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References: <1993Sep21.140201.3115@Princeton.EDU>
gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
>The new S3 driver, which supports S3-928 based cards, is now on
>ftp.next.com.
Have any changes been done on the algorithms for S3-805, to make
it faster. Does it make sense for S3-805 users to update the driver?
Thank you,
Ralf
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: NeXT printer to a SPARCstation 2 ??
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kent@infoserv.com writes
> In article <REUVEN.93Sep20201935@puttanesca.mit.edu> reuven@athena.mit.edu
> (Reuven M. Lerner) writes:
> #>>>>> On Mon, 20 Sep 1993 23:31:01 GMT, wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B.
> #>>>>> Johnson) said:
> #
> # Michael> Won't do you any good. The printer is just a dumb one -
> # Michael> you need the NeXT to RIP the PostScript, [...]
> #
> #Now that's not quite true... we all know that you can use an Intel
> #machine running Windows NT to talk to the NeXT laser printer. Just
> #ask Microsoft.
> #
> #:-)
> #
> #Reuven
>
> I seem to remember that Sun used a raster printer with the Postscript
> interpreter running on the Sparc.
>
> A NeXT printer connected might be possible depending on what the Sparc
printer
> interface looked like.
>
Like I said in my original post (it was removed in the quote above), NeXT never
published how to talk to the printer, so you can use GhostScript, or NeWS, or
DPS, or Freedom of the Press, or whatever to RIP the PostScript, but you don't
know how to shove the bits at the printer.
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From: dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield)
Subject: Re: Boot to DOS from a second hard disk?
In-Reply-To: qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu's message of 19 Sep 1993 18:56:50 GMT
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 04:44:57 GMT
In article <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu (Feng Qiu) writes:
:: My system is a 486/DX2 66MHz with a 525 M hard disk loaded with
:: NeXTStep3.1. I have a second hard disk bootable for DOS and Windows but
:: without NeXTStep partition. My question is how can you boot to the second
:: hard disk to DOS? Now in order to run DOS(I have no SoftPC) I have to
:: disconnect the hard disk for NeXTStep and set it at master mode then
:: reboot.
::
Two choices, neither too pleasant: 1) Partition your 525 Next drive to add
a small DOS partition. Install DOS on it, and have your AUTOEXEC transfer
immediately to theother drive. With the DOS partition on the NS disk, you
will be given the DOS option at boot time. You will have to scratch your
NS partition ot do this. The DOS partition can be *quite* small, but if
you make it too small, you must install DOS very manually on the 'D:' drive.
The DOS install wants to be on the 'C:' drive. I run with a 5 MB DOS
partition on my NS primary drive and it works fine when booted to DOS. 2)
Create a diskette with your AUTOEXEC and CONFIG files on it. Place it
in the primary drive when you wish to boot to DOS. Have your AUTOEXEC trans-
fer control immediately to your D: drive. This is a bear, since any time
the system needs to reload command.com, it will do it from the A: (diskette)
drive, which is quite slow. Hope this is some help.
-Dean
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From: kluge@avalon.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge)
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.032653.8424@ifi.unizh.ch>
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 03:26:53 GMT
I have a 3105s from DEC, an 1.0GB Drive, which I bought with a external
case. Soon I changed the disk to work as internal, just changing the
termination jumpers did work for this issue.
I had some wierd System Panics with this Drive, which I don't get right,
because if I proper calculate, the block where the error is on, is far
beyond the 1GB space :-)
I suspect the Drive to spin down, for a not known reason, and my
Monostation doesn't spinn it up, so you will get an error on the next
block-read.
It's strange, but since I didn't have much time for playing with my
NeXT, I can't give any details....
-daniel
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From: kluge@avalon.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge)
Subject: Re: Installing new internal drives for NeXTstation
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.040230.26123@ifi.unizh.ch>
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References: <1993Sep17.105953.17683@newstand.syr.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 04:02:30 GMT
Brendan T. McNichols (mcnichol@math.syr.edu) wrote:
: Hi all,
: Now I am stuck trying to get a new drive to install internally in the
: NeXTstation. I have possibilities of two drives for which I have found
: reasonable prices; the Fujitsu M2624FA 520 MB ($661) and the Quantum
: LPS525S 525MB ($629). I'm inclined to go with the Fujitsu since it comes
: with a 5 year warranty instead of Quantum's 2 years.
: My question is this: Has anyone had any experience installing either of
: these drives internally in a NeXTstation? Is it possible? Recommended?
: Any pitfalls I need to look out for?
Yup, when I bought my Station, I instantly replaced the internal 200MB Quantum
Drive in exchange with the 520MB Fujitsu (Cheaper than a station with 400MB from
NeXT), and this worked fine for a year (after some xx hours configuring the
drive, my advise: be sure you really change the jumpers you want to...)
I now have a 1GB DEC drive internally, and the Fujitsu resides in its own case.
-daniel (sorry for using a terminal window lager than 80 charcters)
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From: kluge@avalon.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge)
Subject: Re: Benchmark information?
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.041834.26242@ifi.unizh.ch>
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
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References: <1993Sep17.173748.28576@cs.yale.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 04:18:34 GMT
Jim Horne (jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu) wrote:
: A friend of mine wants to buy a 486 machine and put NeXTStep on it. Sometime
: earlier this summer, I remember someone posting some benchmark information
: about the various 486 machines. I able to find the NXBench program on
: cs.orst.edu, but it has extremely limited information about how fast the
: various systems are. Could someone point me to the ftp site where the
: information is kept?
As far as I know, there is no ftpable list, I got mine from the author of the
benchmark, fankhauser@uptime.ch
: The only thing I really remember is that the old black hardware was in general
: faster than the new 486 hardware.
Depending on what you look, processer-power: white's up, graphic: Black 'til know
better.
Ok, I include here a more recent list .. uudecode gunzip and Edit ..
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-daniel
--
Daniel G. Kluge @ Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zuerich
E-Mail : kluge@avalon.unizh.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome)
study-related stuff : dankluge@iiic.ethz.ch
DECnet : EZINFO::CLUESCH
From: smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Further to the ALR V-Q Story
Date: 22 Sep 1993 06:16:10 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27oqja$1im@nntp.crl.com>
I recently forwarded the recent reviews that appeared here of the ALR Evolution
V-Q to my own sales rep at ALR. I also spoke to the manager in question.
Reason being that I've been considering carrying the V-Q as the NSI platform of
choice, and I need to know how their customer service responds.
To ALR's credit, they have taken this matter very seriously, and the reports
are making their way, in xerox form, through the entire company, including the
President. I've suggested that they should get an Internet account so as to be
able to respond directly to queries, much as SGI does.
I should have a further update later in the week.
--
Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
22 Miller Avenue, Suite A
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-380-0383--voice
415-380-0381--fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: p21@chp28aa.der.edf.fr (TAI SDM)
Subject: Viper P9000
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.110009.23787@edf.fr>
Keywords: Diamond, Viper, P9000, Display driver
Sender: Alvaro Dos Santos
Organization: DIRECTION des etudes et recherches EDF Clamart
References: <1993Sep22.002605.3683@antigone.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 11:00:09 GMT
I have a video card Diamond Viper P9000 with 2Mo of VRAM on it.
I would like to put NeXTStep on my machine.
Since the Viper is one of the best Video card actually available,
will future releases of NeXTStep have drivers for P9000's based video cards ?
Alvaro Dos Santos. Soft Way Technology. France.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: Canon & the Former NeXT Hardware Factory
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.023016.8387@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
References: <1993Sep21.154650.10150@glv.uucp>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 02:30:16 GMT
In article <1993Sep21.154650.10150@glv.uucp> bob@bobsled.cen.encompass.com
(Bob Lunney) writes:
> Can someone confirm (or deny) this rumor for me? I've heard grumblings
> that the deal between Canon and the former NeXT hardware engineers is
off
> and that the factory has gone on the block. Any truth to these rumors?
>
A major portion of the production part of the NeXT factory was sold
several months ago. The general infastructure (racks, desks...) of the
factory was sold last week at auction.
There is a group of former NeXT hardware engineers doing some work for
cannon. I don't believe they have announced publicly what they our
working on. I would say what I think they are working on, but then I
would get some more email from NeXT reminding me about some agreement I
signed with them several years ago.
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
Voice: 919.783.7033
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Boot to DOS from a second hard disk?
Message-ID: <2254@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 22 Sep 93 13:45:37 GMT
References: <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> <DEAN.93Sep21234457@world.std.com>
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Dean S Banfield (dean@world.std.com) wrote:
: In article <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu (Feng Qiu) writes:
: :: My system is a 486/DX2 66MHz with a 525 M hard disk loaded with
: :: NeXTStep3.1. I have a second hard disk bootable for DOS and Windows but
: :: without NeXTStep partition. My question is how can you boot to the second
: :: hard disk to DOS? Now in order to run DOS(I have no SoftPC) I have to
: :: disconnect the hard disk for NeXTStep and set it at master mode then
: :: reboot.
: ::
: Two choices, neither too pleasant: 1) Partition your 525 Next drive to add
: a small DOS partition. Install DOS on it, and have your AUTOEXEC transfer
: immediately to theother drive. With the DOS partition on the NS disk, you
: will be given the DOS option at boot time. You will have to scratch your
: NS partition ot do this. The DOS partition can be *quite* small, but if
: you make it too small, you must install DOS very manually on the 'D:' drive.
: The DOS install wants to be on the 'C:' drive. I run with a 5 MB DOS
: partition on my NS primary drive and it works fine when booted to DOS. 2)
: Create a diskette with your AUTOEXEC and CONFIG files on it. Place it
: in the primary drive when you wish to boot to DOS. Have your AUTOEXEC trans-
: fer control immediately to your D: drive. This is a bear, since any time
: the system needs to reload command.com, it will do it from the A: (diskette)
: drive, which is quite slow. Hope this is some help.
: -Dean
: --
: Dean S. Banfield Voice: (203) 656-1500
: Real Decisions Corporation FAX : (203) 656-1659
: 22 Thorndal Circle email: dean@world.std.com
: Darien, CT 06820
This is not quite right since if I remember correctly from my DOS
days you can issue the command 'set shell=d:\command.com' or something
like that in the autoexec.bat file and then the system will look for
command.com on drive d: and not on drive a:.
Yadin.
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Boot to DOS from a second hard disk?
Message-ID: <2255@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 22 Sep 93 13:51:15 GMT
References: <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> <DEAN.93Sep21234457@world.std.com> <2254@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Actually the right command is
set comspec=d:\command.com
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Further to the ALR V-Q Story
Date: 22 Sep 1993 14:35:57 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27pnsd$8a7@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <27oqja$1im@nntp.crl.com>
In article <27oqja$1im@nntp.crl.com> smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger")
writes:
> I recently forwarded the recent reviews that appeared here of the ALR
Evolution
> V-Q to my own sales rep at ALR. I also spoke to the manager in question.
>
> Reason being that I've been considering carrying the V-Q as the NSI
platform of
> choice, and I need to know how their customer service responds.
>
> To ALR's credit, they have taken this matter very seriously, and the
reports
> are making their way, in xerox form, through the entire company,
including the
> President. I've suggested that they should get an Internet account so as
to be
> able to respond directly to queries, much as SGI does.
>
> I should have a further update later in the week.
Well done, Sam! This sort of thing can only further the cause; if I were a
hardware vendor I too would take such thoughtful feedback by potential
(and strong-minded! :-) ) customers very seriously.
Regards, Steve Weintz
scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE, STATION'S PS is DEAD ?
Message-ID: <CDqFno.q0@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Sep21.112016.9407@ntua.gr>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 01:47:47 GMT
In article <1993Sep21.112016.9407@ntua.gr> iok@phgasos.ntua.gr (Ioannis
Koutselas) writes:
#Hello everyone. I would like a lot of comments on the following
#problem, assumed by me to be due to a faulty power supply. I went
#out to dinner having left the nextstation on, and wehn i came
#back the station was off and WOULD NOT Power on.
#
#Moroever the nextstation`s power supply does not make the
#buzz which ued to do when it was connecte to mains.
#
#I have checked the battery which apparently is 3 volts,
#i have checked to see if PIN 6--Ground does anything when you
#press the power button; what actaully happens and probably
#is normal is that upon pressing the power button the
#pin-6 becomes ground. So there should a signal to the
#mother board.
#
#Please comment. Is there a button to erase any small memory
#should i get a new sony ps.
IT sounds like you have the old corrupted static ram problem.
If you open up the machine andd pull the battery for a while it
should boot when you put the battery back in.
Kent
--
/* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */
/* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: katrina@unit.edu (Calipha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New HSD 24 bit color scanners $799 (they are there now)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Date: 22 Sep 1993 16:54:21 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27pvvtINNrnm@network.ucsd.edu>
Keywords: Scanners New $799
Some of you may have read an earlier post about Tom Cruise
selling these scanners and called him only to find that he had
no idea what you were talking about.
Tom is new at Creative Computers and was not aware that these
scanners that they bought from HSD were NeXT in origin.
These scanners are there. Tom is now clear about it. Whether
you have called him or not, you can now call him and arrange
for one of these scanners to be shipped to you for a third of
the original price.
The number for Creative Computers is 619 467 4700. Ask for
Tom Cruise.
murshid@unit.edu
From: bagera@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Alan Friesen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cube: multiple cpu's & the OD
Date: 22 Sep 1993 18:43:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <27q6d7INNs8a@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
What is the story on using multiple cpu's with the cube? Just slide in
the extra mother board and make sure it has memory?
Does anyone know of any comercial products for cleaning the OD? People
have talked about using compressed air etc, but I had something more like a
fd cleaner in mind...
-chris
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Quantum ELS170?
Date: 22 Sep 1993 19:54:08 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA
Message-ID: <27qah0$hpc@news.intercon.com>
Hi,
I just purchased a Quantum ELS170 from Club Mac and I can't get it to work
on my NeXT. I can format the drive fine, but if I try to initialize it, I
get a boatload of write errors and then it says there are no boot blocks
available.
I thought of just leaving it in Mac format and using it, since Mac SCSI
drives seem to be supported in 3.1 that way -- I can read from the drive
fine, but I can't write anything to it.
I'm about to send it back to Club Mac and buy something from Sun
instead... :)
Does anyone have any ideas about this problem?
Thanks,
David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: stanh@hal.COM (Stanley Henderson)
Subject: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro
Message-ID: <27qahjINNhod@tma3.hal.COM>
Sender: news@hal.com
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 22 Sep 1993 14:54:27 -0500
I am trying to locate an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro card with
2MB of video ram. I want the VESA Local Bus version of
this board.
I've talked to ATI and they are coming out with a new
Rev. 6 Mach32 board (retail and OEM version), but the
backorder log must be tremendous. I cannot find one
with my distributor or any other distributor for that matter.
If anyone has (or no someone who has) one of these boards
please send me e-mail at stanh@hal.com with price and any
ordering information. I need a board yesterday! I don't
need someone who can order me one or anything like that
because I already have 4 backordered to date.
Thanks.
-Stan Henderson
stanh@hal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Becki Kain <beckers@imagine.com>
Subject: Re: Large IDE Drives
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.203301.1588@imagine.com>
Sender: beckers@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
References: <1993Sep21.145604.29124@hal.depaul.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 20:33:01 GMT
yup, on an intel gx with a 500 meg ide drive (quantum, i think).
beckers
In article <1993Sep21.145604.29124@hal.depaul.edu>
acsdtb@falcon.depaul.edu (Darius Babanoury) writes:
> Has anyone had trouble installing NeXTSTEP on large IDE drives? We
> recently received a Dell XPS system with a 450MB IDE hard drive, but
> when the machines begins to initialize the drive, it will generate
> multiple errors before failing. I have no trouble installing NeXTSTEP
> on a 320MB IDE drive, nor do I have trouble installing DOS or OS/2 on
> the 450MB IDE drive. I have tried the drive in another machine with
> the same results.
>
> The 450MB IDE disk is a Seagate Model ST3550A if that makes a
> difference.
>
> I just need to check to see if someone has sucessfully installed
> NeXTSTEP on a IDE drive greater than 400MB before I send
> this drive back as defective.
>
> Thanks in advance for any replies.
>
> darius
>
> darius@northstar.com
> (NeXTmail welcome)
--
Becki Kain Imagine Multimedia NeXTmail welcome beckers@imagine.com
"words are just dust in deserts of sound" Eldritch
From: basiji@stein2.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP Laserjet 4M, How well does it work?
Date: 22 Sep 1993 22:46:54 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Message-ID: <27qkku$g2e@news.u.washington.edu>
I'm thinking of getting a LJ4M and was wondering about
how well it works with NS. Can I get 600 DPI out of it
or do I have to run it in some brain damaged mode to
get it to work at all? How about cabling? (It'll be on
black hardware initially, later moved to white).
I looked on the archives for any info but it was such a mess
there that I couldn't find anything.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
David Basiji
UW Bioengineering
basiji@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische)
Subject: Flat panel display device
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.134345.1265@lkba.uucp>
Sender: lkb@lkba.uucp (Larry Blische)
Organization: LKB Associates, Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 13:43:45 GMT
A few weeks ago I saw that some company was demoing a flat panel display at
a NeXT user's group meeting (SCaN maybe?).
Did this demo happen?
What company made the panel?
What were the display resolution limits?
Was it multi-syncing?
Thanks
---
Larry Blische lkba!lkb@uunet.UU.NET
LKB Associates, Inc. NeXTmail Welcome!
3118 Dunglow Road 410 285 2262
Dundalk, Maryland 21222-5304 USA
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4M, How well does it work?
Date: 22 Sep 1993 23:11:10 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <27qm2e$cc@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <27qkku$g2e@news.u.washington.edu>
I have a 4M connected to my NSTC, with a cable from
Nextconnection. I forget the part no. Of course it's
running at the max baud rate, which is set also at the
printer side. It prints 600 dpi; in fact to get it to
print at 300 dpi at all you have to tweak the printer
controls (quite easy).
It isn't all that slow, compared
to printing from my Powerbook using the printer's port
for Apple connections. Of course it's slower when PS fonts have
to be downloaded into its memory, but not intolerably so, in
my opinion. Better output than with the Next printer, I think,
but I miss the inexplicably English female voice to
warn of paper shortage etc. You will need the PPD files
I got from the archives.
Robert de Lucca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Internal modems under NS/FIP
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Sep22192959@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 23:29:58 GMT
Are internal modems officially supported under NS/FIP ? Are there any
actual success stories ? If you have one, I'd be much obliged if you
could email me with the hardware/software configuration and any other
relevant comments. I'm particularly interested in hearing from
people who've had success with Gateway 66Vs but experiences with other
platforms will be gladly accepted as well. Also, does anyone know if
internal modems suffer from the same serial drivers problems which
have plagued external modems ?
Carl Edman
From: joef@pandora.ucs.umass.edu (Joseph E. Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Q: NeXTStep /86 on the Micronics EISA/VL ?
Date: 23 Sep 1993 01:10:43 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <27qt2j$l1r@nic.umass.edu>
References: <16C4FB994.A4431GAB@AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UniVie.AC.AT>
A4431GAB@AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UniVie.AC.AT wrote:
:
: Does anybody know if NeXTStep for Intel works on a Micronics EISA/VL mother-
: board ? IXve heard rumors that the BIOS is not compatible or that the BIOS
: corrects some hardware error ans, as NeXT doesnXt use it, it won~t work or
: or or..
: Can anybody clarify this please ?
: Thanks,
: Roland
The Micronics EISA/VESA board does not work...I believe the real problem is a
keyboard problem. Micronics has basically said, "Too bad."
Joe Fitzgerald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: haller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Kirk Haller)
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4M and HP DJ 500 Cables
Message-ID: <1993Sep23.004027.13540@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
References: <27qkku$g2e@news.u.washington.edu> <27qm2e$cc@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 00:40:27 GMT
gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks) writes:
>I have a 4M connected to my NSTC, with a cable from
>Nextconnection. I forget the part no.
Because I just called about this, the part number is 1441.
Related to this, does anyone know where to get a cable to link black hardware
(NSTC) to an HP DeskJet 500? It need a NeXT to Null Modem (for DTR flow). I
have the information about the cable from the documentation, but before I go
and get one made, I was hoping someone in netland knew of a company that sold
them.
>Robert de Lucca
Kirk Haller
haller@math.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!cusa!magnusson!kris (Kristopher Magnusson)
Subject: Re: New S3 Driver Available
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.170444.2170@magnusson.uucp>
Sender: kris@magnusson.uucp
Organization: Salt Lake area NeXT Group
References: <1993Sep21.140201.3115@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 17:04:44 GMT
In article <1993Sep21.140201.3115@Princeton.EDU>
gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
| The new S3 driver, which supports S3-928 based cards, is now on
| ftp.next.com.
|
| Although the readme file claims support of only a limited number of
| S3-928 systems (from Dell, DEC, and HP), I would like to know if the
| driver will work with other add-in cards (such as the Diamond Stealth
| (which is an S3-928 card, if memory serves)). I intend to test
| alternatives in the next couple of days, but would like to hear from
| anyone who has conducted any tests, or who has specific S2-928 cards
| to recommend.
|
| With all good wishes,
| Phil
|
| --
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| gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
| Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
| voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
I will immediately test the new driver with off-the-shelf S3-928 graphics
cards in addition to machines from DEC and HP.
I'll report back to the net as soon as my evaluation is complete.
/Kris
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From: dougw@ks25.chi.il.us (Doug Waldron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Ultra Pro, Gateway 66v and NextStep
Message-ID: <2658@ks25.chi.il.us>
Date: 21 Sep 93 22:59:04 GMT
Organization: R. R. Donnelley & Sons
I am trying to decide whether my PC Hardware will be capable of
running NextStep. My system is listed in the Compatablility
list; however, I have read in NextWorld that the ATI card is not well
supported by NeXT. I have also read a complaint in this group about
the quality of the display when using an ATI card.
My configuration is:
Gateway PC 66V
ATI Ultra Pro, 2meg Vram
16meg RAM (will be increasing to 24 meg)
340 meg harddrive (will be adding a 600 meg)
Texel 3024 CDRom drive.
Please post or email responses.
Doug Waldron
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From: jag@seguente (Jagdish Narasimhan)
Subject: Seagate disk info....
Message-ID: <1993Sep23.030150.1825@ximage.com>
Sender: usenet@ximage.com (Usenet accout)
Organization: XImage Corp.
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 03:01:50 GMT
Hi:
I would appreciate any info on the ST1280N used in a NeXT..
cyls, heads, blocks, etc., I am trying to use a disk that came from a
next on a sparc...
Any help would appreciate would help
jag@ximage.com
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From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro
Message-ID: <CDsHLr.IoK@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <27qahjINNhod@tma3.hal.COM>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 04:25:03 GMT
In article <27qahjINNhod@tma3.hal.COM> stanh@hal.COM (Stanley Henderson) writes:
>I've talked to ATI and they are coming out with a new
>Rev. 6 Mach32 board (retail and OEM version), but the
>backorder log must be tremendous. I cannot find one
>with my distributor or any other distributor for that matter.
>
>Thanks.
>
>-Stan Henderson
>stanh@hal.com
Advance 2000 would be a good place to start. I think that they
might be able to find you an ATI board, or even a Mateus (spelling?)
S3-928 board. Even if you aren't buying a system from them I
feel they would probably be helpful.
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From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt)
Subject: Re: 68060 for black Hardware ?
Message-ID: <1993Sep23.050306.3444@drefla.mese.com>
Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com
Organization: Applied Engineering
References: <1993Sep22.165623.10896@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 05:03:06 GMT
In article <1993Sep22.165623.10896@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) writes:
> Dominik Westner (westner@picasso.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de) wrote:
> : Hi,
>
> : I was wondering if it would be possible to replace the 68040 with the
> : upcoming 68060 CPU.
>
> If the pins are identical, and the NeXT 040's are socketed, then it
> might be easy. I really doubt the pins are compatible, though.
>
> Otherwise, someone will have to come up with a board which plugs into
> the 040 socket and converts the 060 pin layout to an 040 layout, perhaps
> with some extra caching/timing stuff. There might be a speed hit, since the
> rest of the machine would be running at 25 or 33 MHz.
>
> Perhaps if enough people wrote to Daystar (the people who do the Mac
> accelerators) they could be convinced to make some. It might cost
> $1000+ each, though. I'd buy one- It's a lot cheaper than a Pentium box
> and a new copy of NEXTSTEP.
>
> Perhaps NeXT could be persuaded to get in on it, as a way of supporting the
> people who bought their computers? (In particular, using a little Jobsian
> persuasion to convince daystar to do it. Later, an 060-optimized version of
> NeXTSTEP to get the most out of the upgrade.)
>
> Does anyone have a copy of a Mac magazine from which they could post
> Daystar's address?
>
> By the way, when *is* the 060 supposed to ship?
I used to work for DayStar, in fact I helped design the first Mac II
accelerator there and designed their cache board for the IIci. I also just got
done with the 68040 Mac accelerator for Applied Engineering. Just background so
you know I'm not just talking out my ass...
I don't think a 68060 accelerator would be all that difficult. It would take a
modicum of inside information about the archetecture of the slab and cube,
things like where the holes in the address space are, what is cacheable, stuff
like that. Alas, there is no "Inside the NeXTStation" available.
The pinout of the 060 looks a lot like the 040 but it has a circle of new pins
on the inside. It also disconnects a few signals in the 040 group. In any case
it would take some code in a rom and a few sync circuits. A small daughter card
would probably suffice and would fit easily into the slab.
There is no real technical barrier. It would be easier with a little help from
NeXT but not impossible without. The 060 will probably hit the streets about
second quarter of next year, samples possibly in december (they tell me). A
board would probably have a part's cost of about $800 to $1000 which means that
it would have to retail at about $2K to start. The price would drop as the chip
came on line but would probably never go below $1K.
Daystar won't do it, they have bigger fish to fry. I would LOVE to do it but I
have to eat and Applied probably wouldn't want to pay me to develop it. If
there was enough interest out there to get NeXT interested in helping me with
the archetectural details of the slab and cube and for others to pony up some
firm orders I might consider taking a sabatical to do it. Send me mail if you
REALLY think you could buy it at that price and I will check out the
possibilities.
matt
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From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro, Gateway 66v and NextStep
Date: 23 Sep 1993 11:42:52 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Message-ID: <27s23s$nt0@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2658@ks25.chi.il.us>
Doug Waldron writes:
>I am trying to decide whether my PC Hardware will be capable of
>running NextStep. My system is listed in the Compatablility
>list; however, I have read in NextWorld that the ATI card is not well
>supported by NeXT. I have also read a complaint in this group about
>the quality of the display when using an ATI card.
>
>My configuration is:
>
>Gateway PC 66V
>ATI Ultra Pro, 2meg Vram
>16meg RAM (will be increasing to 24 meg)
>340 meg harddrive (will be adding a 600 meg)
>Texel 3024 CDRom drive.
The GUP with 2MB VRAM works fine in my earlier version of the
66V (one made in February). I had plenty of problems with other
components, but hey, I was a PC hardware novice when I started. If
you'd like my notes about the installation, drop me a line.
Best,
Mitch Gass
mitch@mills.edu
recent model k
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From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: New S3 Driver Available
Message-ID: <CDt2vs.FBE@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services
References: <1993Sep21.140201.3115@Princeton.EDU> <1993Sep22.170444.2170@magnusson.uucp>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 12:02:28 GMT
Kristopher Magnusson (hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!cusa!magnusson!kris) wrote:
: In article <1993Sep21.140201.3115@Princeton.EDU>
: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
: | The new S3 driver, which supports S3-928 based cards, is now on
: | ftp.next.com.
: |
: | Although the readme file claims support of only a limited number of
: | S3-928 systems (from Dell, DEC, and HP), I would like to know if the
: I will immediately test the new driver with off-the-shelf S3-928 graphics
: cards in addition to machines from DEC and HP.
A couple months back we had an HP U-66 (EISA) and had an ATI PUG [sic]
card in it. Graphics speed was ok. Now we have an HP DX/66XM and with
the 2MB of VRAM and the S3 driver the graphics performance 'feels' better
and snappier. "Feels" is, of course, a standard measure...
peter
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From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby)
Subject: Sound Card Problems!
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.203446.4490@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 20:34:46 GMT
I have a friend who has a gateway with a Pro Audio Spectrum(Or what ever its
called) sound card installed. It's supposed to be supported by NeXTStep(I says
so in the compatability sheets) Any way, once it does a sound for any reason,
like pressing the wrong key in a terminal... It just keeps on repeating this
sound until he reboots..
Any ideas?
Rick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: acsdtb@falcon.depaul.edu (Darius Babanoury)
Subject: Re: Large IDE Drives
References: <1993Sep21.145604.29124@hal.depaul.edu> <1993Sep22.203301.1588@imagine.com>
Sender: news@hal.depaul.edu (News Admin)
Organization: DePaul University, Chicago
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 14:17:59 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Sep23.141759.18485@hal.depaul.edu>
In article <1993Sep22.203301.1588@imagine.com> beckers@imagine.com writes:
>yup, on an intel gx with a 500 meg ide drive (quantum, i think).
>
>beckers
>
>
>In article <1993Sep21.145604.29124@hal.depaul.edu>
>acsdtb@falcon.depaul.edu (Darius Babanoury) writes:
>> Has anyone had trouble installing NeXTSTEP on large IDE drives? We
>> The 450MB IDE disk is a Seagate Model ST3550A if that makes a
>> difference.
>>
I should have made a more through check of NeXT_Answers, there is a
known firmware problem with this drive, and needs a firmware update.
Thanks to the people who replied, and the help I got from NeXT and
Dell.
darius
From: kent@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT printer to a SPARCstation 2 ??
Message-ID: <CDsF87.236@infoserv.com>
Date: 23 Sep 93 03:33:43 GMT
References: <1993Sep21.222702.3787@news.media.mit.edu>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Distribution: na
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
In article <1993Sep21.222702.3787@news.media.mit.edu> wave@media.mit.edu
(Michael B. Johnson) writes:
#Like I said in my original post (it was removed in the quote above), NeXT
never
#published how to talk to the printer, so you can use GhostScript, or NeWS, or
#DPS, or Freedom of the Press, or whatever to RIP the PostScript, but you don't
#know how to shove the bits at the printer.
#
Actually you don't need to know the NeXT specifics. If you want to
know how a Canon engine gets data ask Canon, Hp, or Apple. The
engine is a common engine. There are a couple of books on how the engine
works. There is also a book that details how an Apple controller
connects to the Canon engine.
Kent
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From: josh@cs.rochester.edu (Josh Tenenberg)
Subject: Printer recommendations
Message-ID: <1993Sep23.144808.4928@cs.rochester.edu>
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 14:48:08 GMT
I am looking for a NEW 400dpi laser printer for my '040 slab.
I would like one that is straightforward to install. A plus if it
will also work with Sun machines if I later need to hook it to
one (but this is not a necessary constraint). Priced at < $1300.
Any recommendations? Passing along info on the cabling that I
will need and where the config files are would also help.
Thanks,
Josh D. Tenenberg
Department of Mathematics and
Computer Science
Indiana University at South Bend
1700 Mishawaka Avenue
P.O. Box 7111
South Bend, Indiana 46634
(219) 237-4525
fax: (219) 237-4538
josh@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu
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University of Rochester
Rochester, New York 14627-0226
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From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: Flat panel display device
Message-ID: <Sep23.155021.35290@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 15:50:21 GMT
References: <1993Sep22.134345.1265@lkba.uucp>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
> A few weeks ago I saw that some company was demoing a flat
> panel display at a NeXT user's group meeting (SCaN maybe?).
>
> Did this demo happen?
I don't know about SCaN, but we've been using an LCD overhead
projection system at the Calgary NeXTSTEP User's Group for a few
months now.
> What company made the panel?
It's an InFocus 7600WS
> What were the display resolution limits?
It seems to display about 960 x 768, and you can scroll that
virtual area around the actual screen manually.
> Was it multi-syncing?
Yes. We've used it with real live black hardware as well as
white at resolutions of 640 x 480, 1024 x 768 and 1120 x 832.
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From: jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu ()
Subject: Third serial port on NSFIP machine
Message-ID: <1993Sep23.181845.19244@news.yale.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Originator: jont@minerva
Keywords: serial, NSFIP
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 18:18:45 GMT
I was wondering...is it at all possible to configure white hardware to
have more than two serial ports? The hardware compatibility sheet said
only com 1 and 2 are available. However I have a modem in one and a serial
mouse in another and am thinking of getting a UPS in the future. Is there
any solution besides buying a bus mouse and freeing the mouse's serial port?
Later,
Jon
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From: ae827@Freenet.carleton.ca (Mike Daly)
Subject: Fujitsu SCSI disk
Message-ID: <CDtow5.AI4@freenet.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@freenet.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 20:00:04 GMT
We just installed a 1Gb Fujitsu 3.5 in SCSI disk on our 105Mb slab.
3.1 installed OK on this disk but there seems to be some problems booting
up. There are some "unexpected message" SCSI errors for a while before the
computer finally boots up. Also it still seems to initially want to boot
up from target 6 (which is the 105Mb disk). After it boots things seem to
work normally but I am concerned that the disk is not configured properly.
A second question has to do with the fstab file. This file seems to have no
effect as to where the 105 is mounted, is it necessary to use this.
Thanks
mike
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From: dpeter@hsd.com
Subject: ***HSD Offering Scanners Again--Very Competive Prices***
Message-ID: <CDto3M.1w4@hsd.com>
Sender: usenet@hsd.com
Organization: HSD Microcomputer, U.S., Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 19:42:57 GMT
HSD IS IS BACK IN THE SCANNER BUSINESS IN A BIG WAY!!!
HSD is again offering a complete line of professional desktop scanners,
accessories and software for NeXT computers or PCs running NeXTSTEP, all
at very competitive prices.
All scanners are shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional software bundle
which includes PowerScan 2.0, PowerCopy, PowerFax and all necessary cables
for connecting to your computer. Each scanner has a one-year warranty.
To kick things off, we are offering great prices on the following models:
Model Type Resolution Software Sale Price
Umax UC630 24-bit Color Up to 2400 dpi PowerScan Pro $1195
Umax Grayscale 8-bit Grayscale Up to 2400 dpi PowerScan Pro $895
**Buy any scanner and get OCR Servant for $99 (retail $295).**
These prices are good through the end of September.
We are also offering many other scanner models, all bundled with PowerScan
Professional, as well as a complete line of innovative applications and
utilities for NeXTSTEP. Educational, Corporate and Government prices are
available, and I invite you all to contact me directly if you have any
questions would like to receive additional information about the entire
family of HSD products for NeXTSTEP.
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
Ph. (408) 774-1400
Fax (408) 774-1402
Email: dpeter@hsd.com (NeXTMail)
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From: phyd@interaccess.com (Brian Leake)
Subject: Cube mistakenly booting from the network
Sender: news@interaccess.com (Usenet News)
Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet service provider.
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 15:00:31 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Sep23.150031.170@interaccess.com>
Many thanks to all those that posted replies to the question on
why my machine was attempting to boot from the network. The
solution was to use the next monitor from NMI, and change boot
parambers using p.
Brian.
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From: jdawson@oceania.com (John Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How do you use a NeXT monochrome monitor on a PC?
Date: 23 Sep 1993 21:28:16 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27t4dg$h2g@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Recently, I think somebody posted some combination of cabling
and video adaptors that enables you to use a NeXT monochrome
monitor with a PC. I checked the FAQ, and I didn't find
anything about this. Can somebody repost this?
..jkd
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 14:34:19 CDT
From: Prasad Ravi <U21709@uicvm.uic.edu>
Message-ID: <93266.143419U21709@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: AppleCD for Mac AND NS/FIP
Folks,
Wondering if the AppleCD drive works with both Macintosh and IBM (with
NS/FIP) computers?? If so, what adapters and cables should I be using
for each?
Thanks.
Prasad Ravi
pravi@ncsa.uiuc.edu
NCSA
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From: tmeyer@black_stone_ranger (Tom Meyer)
Subject: Mitec Monitors
Message-ID: <1993Sep23.220644.2451@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 22:06:44 GMT
Has anyone out there had experience with 'Mitac' monitors?? Good, bad or
otherwise, please e-mail me! I'm considering it for my soon-to-be
purchased NeXTStep pc. Should I pay a little extra for a Sony or NEC ?
thanks,
Tom Meyer
Swiss Bank Corporation
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From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Can't install NSI 3.1 on pc-clone
Message-ID: <149171@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 23 Sep 93 18:12:40 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Hi,
I am trying (so far unsuccesfully) to install NSI 3.1 on my pc-clone. All
the components of my system are listed in the hardware compatability guide:
ISA brand Motherboard w/
ATI BIOS
Adaptec 1542b
NEC Intersect SCSI CDROM drive
I can reliably get to the Software Installation Window (where it gives a
list of languages and what-not that can be checked off for installation),
but the system invariably crashes at some point after the installation
has begun (though never in the same place twice). The system either hangs
or reboots. NeXTAnswers says that NSI 3.1 does not officially support the
floppy drive controller integrated onto the adaptec 1542b-- could this be
my problem? If I can't use the integrated floppy controller on the 1542b,
what CAN i use to controll the floppies? Any help much appreciated. Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: Will NEC CDR 25 work with a NeXTStation
Message-ID: <1993Sep23.215131.24143@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 21:51:31 GMT
I was looking at a mail order price for a NEC CDR 25 635ms single session,
single speed SCSI-1 CD ROM drive. They were selling for about $200 (I think
it was $169).
Will this work and are there any disadvantages to it besides slow speed and
the inablility to access multi-session photo CDs.
Also what is the brand and model of the NeXT CD Drive. I think it was a SONY
or something. I'm comparing prices.
Thanks
Greg
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Subject: SCSI-2 questions
Message-ID: <27taq3INNn7r@dns1.NMSU.Edu>
From: cgoret@nmsu.edu (Clay Goret)
Date: 23 Sep 1993 23:17:23 GMT
Sender: clay@accugraph.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Mexico State University
Summary: What is the difference between SCSI-2, fast SCSI-2, and fast and wide SCSI-2
I am currently in the market for a new hard drive for my color NeXTstation,
and I am a little confused about some of the SCSI terminology.
What is the difference between SCSI-2, fast SCSI-2, and fast and wide SCSI-2, if
any.
If there is a difference, is one more or less applicable to my NeXTstation?
Any information would be greatly appreciated....
Clay
clay@accugraph.com
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From: ahh@shoshin.Sun.COM (Aslam Haswarey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need help w/ upgrading to Turbo
Date: 23 Sep 1993 23:49:18 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27tclu$i17@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
Hi,
Trying to upgrade to a TurboNeXT (Cube version) from a 040-25MHz.
Getting exception #5 while trying to boot from the scsi disk.
What does this mean? Am currently running 2.1 on the 040-25MHz.
Is there a way to probe the SCSI bus to determine what's on the bus?
Is there a FAQ on upgrading to a TurboNeXT.
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-Aslam Haswarey <ahh@shoshin.Sun.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson)
Subject: Mount external scsi without rebooting?
Message-ID: <16C52102F8.CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 18:24:56 CDT
For classic black NeXTs, is there a way to mount a previously unattached
SCSI device such as a CD-ROM drive without rebooting?
-Greg Johnson, U of Mo Columbia
From: bterry@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (terry brett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What is a good DAT drive for backup?
Date: 24 Sep 1993 03:48:57 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <27tqn9$2hp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Can anyone reccommend a good DAT drive for backing up a 2.5 Gig
external HD? e-mail response to:
u10622@uy.ncsa.uiuc.edu (sever tipei)
and/or
bterry@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
The Computer Music Project at the Univ of Illinois
From: Martin David Frankel <mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Digital audio interface to DSP
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 00:49:04 -0400
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ogcbl0y00iUyQFikZh@andrew.cmu.edu>
Hi!
I am curious whether anyone would be interested in purchasing a device
to convert digital audio from a CD player's digital outputs to the
NeXT's DSP format, for recording through the DSP port. This would allow
you to record digital audio from a CD player or DAT deck, at any
sampling rate from 32 to 50kHz. The basic concept would be a little box
with a cable to the DSP port and a jack for a fiber optic or coaxial
digital cable. The cost would be somewhere around $100. I'm not sure
if such a device already exists commercially.
I've just worked out the design for this and am in the initial stages of
prototyping it. It is based on the Crystal Semiconductor CS8412. This
was initially intended as just for my own use, but I realized that other
people might be interested in it as well.
By the way, if anyone has questions on the 8412 or the other chips in
that family (the 8401, 8402, and 8411), I have done quite a bit of
research into them and related stuff, so I can try to answer such
questions.
Anyway, I'm basically doing a feasability study for this idea. If I get
at least ten people interested, I'll probably start building these in a
month or two. Also, if anyone would prefer to build it themselves, I'd
be happy to send a schematic and parts list; this is not some big
commercial venture, but I thought it would be convenient for many people
to buy such a device preassembled.
1. Would you be interested in buying one of these at the $100 price
point? (All necessary hardware would be included except the digital
audio cable, be it coax or optical.) Somewhat over half this price is
parts, and the remainder would pay for my time in assembling it.
2. Would you want to use a coax input, optical input, or both? I might
make them all with both, or I might make two models, one with optical
and one with coax. The optical would probably be slightly more
expensive.
3. Would you be interested in a "bag o' parts" including everything you
would need to build this device, and my schematics, and some very
rudimentary instructions, for about $70?
4. Would you be interested in just the schematics, parts list, and
basic instructions, for just the cost of postage, or free over the net?
Please note that some of these parts are rather difficult to obtain.
Also, naturally, I cannot provide this until the prototype is built,
tested, and working!
Please feel free to provide any relevant feedback.
-- Martin
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI-2 questions
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 00:55:16 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <ogcbqoS00WB9RLf_tq@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <27taq3INNn7r@dns1.NMSU.Edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 23-Sep-93 SCSI-2 questions
by Clay Goret@nmsu.edu
> I am currently in the market for a new hard drive for my color NeXTstation,
> and I am a little confused about some of the SCSI terminology.
>
> What is the difference between SCSI-2, fast SCSI-2, and fast and wide
> SCSI-2, if any.
>
> If there is a difference, is one more or less applicable to my NeXTstation?
A SCSI-1 connnector is the big 50-pin Centronics connector. SCSI-2
connectors are the smaller 50-pin connectors found on the back of NeXT
machines.
Fast SCSI-2 (the -2 is implied when discussing fast or wide SCSI) runs
at twice the clock rate of the normal SCSI bus.
Wide SCSI-2 has a wider bus (more bits in parallel) than the standard SCSI bus.
Fast & wide SCSI-2 is both of the above.
The only thing that applies to 'black' NeXT hardware is that you need to
order a cable with a SCSI-2 connector for your machine. The other end
of the cable obviously should be appropriate for whatever type of device
you're considering....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Date: 23 Sep 1993 23:03:04 -0700
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Message-ID: <27u2io$9f1@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
References: <1993Sep17.103134.28568@coco.ms.washington.edu> <27ht6u$h0g@ni.umd.edu> <27jpvg$5li@spock.dis.cccd.edu> <1993Sep22.032653.8424@ifi.unizh.ch>
HEAT< HEAT< HEAT< HEAT<
Heat from the Dec drive causes errors.
Also, I believe the limit for a non partitioned drive is 2 gig for NeXTSTEP 3.0.
maurices
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Q: who uses a MO drive like the Fujitsu with his NeXT
Date: 24 Sep 1993 06:24:05 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27u3q5$qh1@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1993Sep20.064115.13045@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik) writes:
> Hi NeXT land,
>
> I'm thinking about buying a 128MB type MO drive with my NeXTstation
> color. Are there any pitfalls like type of SCSII, internal/
> external, drivers, etc.
>
> Who is using the Fujitsu 2811 (number out of my head)?
Hmm. I bought a MO drive from Fujitsu, but it's model M2511A.
It did not work with my NeXTstation, and from all reports I could
get from usenet there was no one else who got it to work with
their NeXT hardware either. There were some reports of it
working OK with some NS/Intel machines.
(note my machine is running NS-3.0, while NS/Intel is NS-3.1,
I don't know if this MO drive would work on NeXT hardware that
was running NS-3.1).
> If you have alternatives, also tell what they cost.
I intended to install NS-3.1 on my NeXT, and see if the new
release would solve my problems with the Fujitsu. One major
problem with that otherwise brilliant idea was that the first
thing I wanted to do with the MO drive was back up my hard
disk *before* installing NS-3.1.
A friend bought that MO drive from me, and I ended up getting a
Pinnacle Micro 130 from Radiant Technologies. These have better
performance than the Fujitsu, but then they have a large cache
in them that helps out. That cache costs cash, of course, so
the PMO-130 drives usually go for $1500-$1700 while the Fujitsu
was selling for around $950-$1000.
So I went with the PMO-130 because I knew Radiant Technologies had
done a bunch of NeXTSTEP testing on their stuff, I knew the PMO-130
would work, and I *thought* I needed a MO drive that weekend so I
didn't want to play around trying any other MO drives.
Since that time Pinnacle has released a new MO drive, called the Tahoe.
One of my friends bought one for his Mac, and it did not work on
my NeXT (in very very limited testing). However Radiant has figured
that new drive out too, and now sells the Tahoe for NeXT hardware.
(I assume it'd work on NS/Intel hardware too, but I didn't need to
know that for my self).
Radiant is selling the Tahoe MO drive for a little under $1000, so
it's in about the same price range as the Fujitsu was for me. It
also has performance numbers that are similar to the Fujitsu's.
There are less expensive MO drives out there (which may very well
work fine with NeXT hardware), but they have slower access times
and data transfer rates. I have no NeXT-related experience with
them.
If you want to bug Radiant Technologies for info on the Tahoe,
you could call 1-303-595-5015 and ask for Steve Collins. He's
the guy I talked with, at least. My information is a little old,
but it should be in the right ballpark.
Disclaimers: I have no financial connections to Radiant, other than
the check I mailed them for the PMO-130 (which has worked fine for
me). I'm a satisfied customer, although I probably should note
that (last I checked) they didn't handle credit card purchases.
Also note that all the MO drives I'm talking about are the 128-meg
variety. I haven't looked at any others.
Liberty Systems also sells some 128-meg MO drives which should work
fine with NeXT systems, but I don't have their phone number here.
The Fujitsu drives themselves are fine drives, other than the fact
that I couldn't get them to work on a NeXT. We (RPI) bought a few
for our Mac lab from MacDirect, and have been happy with how those
have worked out for Macs. And the guy who bought mine is using it
on a Sun and is happy with it. There were a bunch of internal
switch settings we had to change to get it to work on the Sun, but
calling Fujitsu got us all the info we needed for that.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hsr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy)
Subject: SUMMARY: External Hard Drive Cases
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.063653.29205@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 06:36:53 GMT
Thanks to everyone that responded!
On the advice of two different people, I purchased a DEC DSP3105S 1.05G
drive with a 5 year warranty from Larry Cohen at Peripheral Solutions
(1-800-ALL-DISK) for $1050. The drive comes in a sleek, small, black
enclosure that's fairly quiet. It's really quite handsome, and meets my
initial three criteria very well. I'm quite satisfied.
Larry told me that he'ld sell me the case alone + installation of a
different drive for $200. He apparently used to sell the cases alone, but
found that support was too exasperating as people invariably had trouble
installing their drives themselves.
Note that Dirt Cheap Drives is currently advertising the DSP3160S 1.60G
drive for $1150 bare. The Peripheral Solutions case plus that drive seems
like it would be a nifty combination.
I've tacked on a summary of the other options that people suggested.
Thanks again to everyone that sent advice!
Scott Roy
Department of Computer Science
Stanford University
------------------------------------------------------
NCA (they're listed in Computer Shopper) sells a small, sturdy looking PC
beige case for $140. I couldn't see one running to find out how loud the
fan was.
Frey's Electronics here in the San Fransisco area sells a platinum
external case designed for a Macintosh, $99. This case, too, I didn't
have a chance to hear running.
One enterprising soul suggested the practical solution of buying a PC
tower case. He suggested Circo Technology (1-800-678-1688), which carries
some black ones. Alas, this solution is about as far from small as one
can get, though it certainly paves the way for future expansion.
Pixleated Technologies was suggested (1-800-PIXEL-ME), but I never got
around to calling them.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Any Wireless Ethernet options for NS/Intel?
Date: 24 Sep 1993 06:42:35 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27u4sr$ral@usenet.rpi.edu>
Here at RPI we've started to investigate some wireless ethernet
cards which plug into PC's. One is called a Wavelan (from NCR?),
I believe, and the other we considered is called something like
the Altair (from Motorola, I believe).
Has anyone else considered any wireless ethernet options?
Would this be interesting to enough people that we should
bug NeXT to include support for it in NS/Intel?
Or do these cards just look like other ethernet cards for
Intel machines, such that NS/Intel doesn't have to have any
special driver support for the wireless ethernet card?
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: New S3 driver & Diamond Viper
Message-ID: <bchin.748822396@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 22:13:16 GMT
I just got off the phone with a DEC salesperson - he informed me
that the DEC 466d2 MTE uses a Diamond Viper VL-bus card for
it's VL-bus video option! That means the new S3 driver works
with Diamond Vipers - has anyone out there tried the new
driver with a generic clone with a Diamond Viper? If so,
please post your results! I'm especially interested in
comparisons with the Wingine based machines from Epson &
Lucky Goldstar. Is 60hz the best the card can do at 1280x1024?
Ugh! That makes this resolution unusable, especially on the large
monitors this resolution demands.
Thanks!
--
Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc.
VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group
Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom)
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4M, How well does it work?
Message-ID: <CDuC2w.GAH@np.com>
Organization: NP Consulting, San Francisco
References: <27qkku$g2e@news.u.washington.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 04:20:56 GMT
In article <27qkku$g2e@news.u.washington.edu> basiji@stein2.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>
> I'm thinking of getting a LJ4M and was wondering about
> how well it works with NS. Can I get 600 DPI out of it
I have an LJ4M hooked up to an AST Premmia running NS/I. I have been
completely happy with it. Setup involved plugging it in and hooking
up the parallel cable. I find the output quality at 600 dpi to be
superb. My only problem with it is that because of the orientation of
the manual paper feed, Sbook could not print an envelope correctly.
They may have fixed that by now, though.
--
Paul Nordstrom
NP Consulting
paul@np.com
(NeXTMail Appreciated)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: Favorite brand of keyboards?
Message-ID: <CDu52A.457@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley)
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 01:49:22 GMT
I've decided to replace the el-cheapo keyboard that I received with my
Intel GX. It was made by NMB Technologies (Thailand) and has so much
pressure that it literally hurts to type on it. After an hour or so, my
fingertips feel like someone has been rubbing them with coarse grit
sandpaper all that time.
I've been thinking about getting a Lexmark keyboard, but before commiting
to that, I'd like to know what brands of keyboards other Intel GX users
know to work (and feel) well. I liked the touch of the later-model turbos
(pre-ADB) but I have no idea if a comparable PC keyboard is available.
Anybody know? What about the Lexmark - any opinions about it?
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4M, How well does it work?
Date: 24 Sep 1993 12:03:08 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <27unls$t5j@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <27qkku$g2e@news.u.washington.edu> <CDuC2w.GAH@np.com>
In article <CDuC2w.GAH@np.com>, Paul Nordstrom <paul@np.com> wrote:
>In article <27qkku$g2e@news.u.washington.edu> basiji@stein2.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>>
>> I'm thinking of getting a LJ4M and was wondering about
>> how well it works with NS. Can I get 600 DPI out of it
>
>I have an LJ4M hooked up to an AST Premmia running NS/I. I have been
>completely happy with it. Setup involved plugging it in and hooking
>up the parallel cable. I find the output quality at 600 dpi to be
>superb. My only problem with it is that because of the orientation of
>the manual paper feed, Sbook could not print an envelope correctly.
>They may have fixed that by now, though.
>
>--
>Paul Nordstrom
>NP Consulting
>paul@np.com
>(NeXTMail Appreciated)
Yes, SBook (Sarris) has that fixed. My HP LJ4M prints envelopes
very well now, with vers. 3.1 of SBook.
-de Lucca
BTW I have it connected serially to a NSTC.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can't install NSI 3.1 on pc-clone
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.133045.1@nl103.ittpub.nl>
From: pmiso_jv@nl103.ittpub.nl
Date: 24 Sep 93 13:30:45 WET+0100
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
References: <149171@netnews.upenn.edu>
Organization: ITT Publitec R+D BV, Amsterdam
Nntp-Posting-User: pmiso_jv
In article <149171@netnews.upenn.edu>, joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying (so far unsuccesfully) to install NSI 3.1 on my pc-clone. All
> the components of my system are listed in the hardware compatability guide:
>
> ISA brand Motherboard w/
> ATI BIOS
> Adaptec 1542b
> NEC Intersect SCSI CDROM drive
>
> I can reliably get to the Software Installation Window (where it gives a
> list of languages and what-not that can be checked off for installation),
> but the system invariably crashes at some point after the installation
> has begun (though never in the same place twice). The system either hangs
> or reboots. NeXTAnswers says that NSI 3.1 does not officially support the
> floppy drive controller integrated onto the adaptec 1542b-- could this be
> my problem? If I can't use the integrated floppy controller on the 1542b,
Yep, probably is.
> what CAN i use to controll the floppies? Any help much appreciated. Thanks.
Buy yourself a IDE controller: most of them have a floppy controller that works
great with NeXTSTEP. Of course, you still have to disable the floppy controller
on the Adaptec.
These IDE boards are *really* cheap (starting at 50 guilders, which is about
$ 25 or something) and should (famous last words... :-) solve your problem.
>
>
> Joe Panico
> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Jurjen Vorhauer
pmiso_jv@nl100.ittpub.nl
From: hibbitt@strings1.ph.qmw.ac.uk (John Hibbitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu SCSI disk
Date: 24 Sep 1993 12:59:10 GMT
Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK
Message-ID: <27uquu$pgj@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
References: <CDtow5.AI4@freenet.carleton.ca>
In article <CDtow5.AI4@freenet.carleton.ca> ae827@Freenet.carleton.ca (Mike
Daly) writes:
>
> We just installed a 1Gb Fujitsu 3.5 in SCSI disk on our 105Mb slab.
> 3.1 installed OK on this disk but there seems to be some problems booting
> up. There are some "unexpected message" SCSI errors for a while before the
> computer finally boots up. Also it still seems to initially want to boot
> up from target 6 (which is the 105Mb disk). After it boots things seem to
> work normally but I am concerned that the disk is not configured properly.
>
> A second question has to do with the fstab file. This file seems to have no
> effect as to where the 105 is mounted, is it necessary to use this.
>
> Thanks
>
> mike
>
>
> --
You need to disable synchronous mode transfers on the Fujitsu drive as NeXT
hardware only supports asynchronous mode. To do this you need to pull a
jumper on the the drive. I've done this on the M2694SA and it's very simple
once you know which one to pull.
This done, you should be able to boot from it as long as it has a lower
SSCI ID than the internal drive. The convention is to have the internal
set to SCSI ID 1 so that you can attach an external with SCSI ID 0.
You ***definitely*** need a valid '/etc/fstab' entry for a disk otherwise
anyone will be able to write anywhere on the disk. The following 'fstab'
is for a system booting off the external (set to lower ID than internal):
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /InternalDisk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
The internal disk will be mounted at '/InternalDisk'. Note that the non-boot
disk does not have the 'noauto' option - there's an error in the NS 3.0
documentation.
If you want to boot off the internal, set the external to an ID greater
than that of the internal and put something like the following in 'fstab':
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /ExternalDisk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
--
John Hibbitt
Dept of Physics, Queen Mary & Westfield College (University of London)
Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, United Kingdom
Email: J.Hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk (including NeXTMail)
Tel: +44 71-975-5055
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Digital audio interface to DSP
Date: 24 Sep 1993 14:02:57 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27uumh$apj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <ogcbl0y00iUyQFikZh@andrew.cmu.edu>
Keywords: NeXT, aftermarket, DSP, digital audio
In article <ogcbl0y00iUyQFikZh@andrew.cmu.edu> Martin David Frankel
<mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Hi!
>
> I am curious whether anyone would be interested in purchasing a device
> to convert digital audio from a CD player's digital outputs to the
> NeXT's DSP format, for recording through the DSP port. This would allow
> you to record digital audio from a CD player or DAT deck, at any
> sampling rate from 32 to 50kHz. The basic concept would be a little box
> with a cable to the DSP port and a jack for a fiber optic or coaxial
> digital cable. The cost would be somewhere around $100.
[...]
> Anyway, I'm basically doing a feasability study for this idea. If I get
> at least ten people interested, I'll probably start building these in a
> month or two.
Yes, I'm interested, both in particular and in principle. This would be a
fine little widget for NeXTtime soundtracks, for example. I'm really
delighted to see the beginnings of a grass-roots aftermarket for black
hardware enhancements. Keep it up!
> 1. Would you be interested in buying one of these at the $100 price
> point? (All necessary hardware would be included except the digital
> audio cable, be it coax or optical.) Somewhat over half this price is
> parts, and the remainder would pay for my time in assembling it.
Yes, good price, depending on delivered functionality. Hmm...have you
thought about contacting Metaresearch (the Digital Ears folks) to see
about integrating your widget into their software and hardware? I don't
know, maybe they have enough manufacturing oomph to bundle your tool into
theirs and cut you royalty checks. (!)
Best Regards, Steve Weintz
scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Please Re-Think Using DPT 2012B Controller on Intel GX/Pro
Date: 24 Sep 1993 14:09:51 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <27uv3g$gs8@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <Sep18.054607.71743@acs.ucalgary.ca> <CDpo2A.zI@ripple.uunet>
: The only problem with the Adapect 1542 is that you can't have it and the
: onboard SCSI active at the same time when using NS. This is a major drawback,
: but I expect that this will be fixed with new drivers for the Intel GX SCSI.
Does this mean it is possible to have the onboard SCSI active (seen by NS) in
any form (i.e., alone or together with a DPT board)?
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: New S3 Driver Available
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.133753.1071@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Sep22.170444.2170@magnusson.uucp>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 13:37:53 GMT
In article <1993Sep22.170444.2170@magnusson.uucp>
hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!cusa!magnusson!kris (Kristopher Magnusson)
writes:
> In article <1993Sep21.140201.3115@Princeton.EDU>
> gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
> | The new S3 driver, which supports S3-928 based cards, is now on
Kris,
I tried to send you e-mail at kris%magnusson@hellgate.utah.edu but it
bounced back. I have re-sent to your old address
(yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu)... I hope you are still using this account.
With all best wishes,
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: New S3 driver & Diamond Viper
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.133812.1556@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <bchin.748822396@news.andi.org>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 13:38:12 GMT
In article <bchin.748822396@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org
(Bill Chin) writes:
>
>
> I just got off the phone with a DEC salesperson - he informed me
> that the DEC 466d2 MTE uses a Diamond Viper VL-bus card for
> it's VL-bus video option! That means the new S3 driver works
> with Diamond Vipers - has anyone out there tried the new
> driver with a generic clone with a Diamond Viper? If so,
As far I can tell, the DEC 466d2 MTE has 3 VL bus options: s3-805,
s3-928, and Weitek Power9000. The Diamond Viper, according to my
information, is the Weitek board.
The S3-928 board is (according to DEC tech support and sales) built by
Digital. The part number is FR-PCT7H-EB (with 1 meg) and FR-PCT7M-CB
(for 1 meg upgrade). According to DEC, the board is capable of 33
Million Winmarks (not relevant to NS/I), I know, but it's about twice
the windows performance of DEC's 805 board.
I hope to get one of these DEC-built boards and swap with an ATI in
one of our systems for testing and benchmarking, as soon as possible.
Take care,
Phil
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From: pat@biocat1.iit.edu (pathikrit bandyopadhyay)
Subject: memory chip
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.143227.10413@iitmax.iit.edu>
Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News)
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 14:32:27 GMT
where can i get inexpensive memory chip for NeXT ?
thanks in advance.
From: cireyes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Postscrip to HP PCL
Date: 24 Sep 1993 08:49:12 -0600
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I'm looking for an utility that let me convert Postscrip files to PCL files for to print them in a HP printer and display those PCL files in a NeXT monitor and/or other divices.
If I could need something else for one of that tasks (HW/SW) please let me know it.
I will apreciate your help. Thanks
Carmen Isabel Reyes Peraza
Servicios de Informacion Escolar
Instituto Tecnologico y de Estudios Superiores de Monterrey. Campus Monterrey.
From: basiji@stein1.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4M, How well does it work?
Date: 24 Sep 1993 15:23:36 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
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References: <27qkku$g2e@news.u.washington.edu> <CDuC2w.GAH@np.com> <27unls$t5j@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Thanks to all who responded. I'm gonna go for it.
David Basiji
UW Bioengineering
basiji@u.washington.edu
I am the NRA.
From: tcollins@cisco.com (Tracy Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Digital audio interface to DSP
Date: 24 Sep 1993 14:48:43 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems
Message-ID: <27v1cbINN19l@cronkite.cisco.com>
References: <ogcbl0y00iUyQFikZh@andrew.cmu.edu>
Martin David Frankel (mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: Hi!
:
: I am curious whether anyone would be interested in purchasing a device
: to convert digital audio from a CD player's digital outputs to the
: NeXT's DSP format, for recording through the DSP port. This would allow
: you to record digital audio from a CD player or DAT deck, at any
: sampling rate from 32 to 50kHz. The basic concept would be a little box
: with a cable to the DSP port and a jack for a fiber optic or coaxial
: digital cable. The cost would be somewhere around $100. I'm not sure
: if such a device already exists commercially.
I know that such a box exists commercially, although I have never seen
one personally. I heard that a small company was demoing a box that could
do everything you mention, and more, such as SMPTE and MIDI(?) sync.
I forget the name of the company, but they were asking about $600
for the unit. I will probably get one of these, once the friend of
mine that ordered one gets his delivered. The box was at NeXT expo
in San Francisco this summer. I will try to dig up more details and
post it.
Obviously, $100 would be a great price for this interface. Good luck!
tracy
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From: kluge@avalon.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge)
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.154412.21832@ifi.unizh.ch>
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
References: <1993Sep17.103134.28568@coco.ms.washington.edu> <27ht6u$h0g@ni.umd.edu> <27jpvg$5li@spock.dis.cccd.edu> <1993Sep22.032653.8424@ifi.unizh.ch> <27u2io$9f1@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 15:44:12 GMT
Maurice Shihadi (maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu) wrote:
: Also, I believe the limit for a non partitioned drive is 2 gig for NeXTSTEP 3.0.
EHM, given 32bit Pointers and a logical Block-Size of 512 Bytes, this is
the limit, which you can adress in one BSD-Partition.
(When comes a better filesystem (WNFS uses 64bit, and is error
correcting)
-daniel
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From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Will NEC CDR 25 work with a NeXTStation
Date: 24 Sep 1993 16:14:59 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Message-ID: <27v6e3$3oj@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
References: <1993Sep23.215131.24143@sol.UVic.CA>
In article <1993Sep23.215131.24143@sol.UVic.CA> gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews) writes:
>
>I was looking at a mail order price for a NEC CDR 25 635ms single session,
>single speed SCSI-1 CD ROM drive. They were selling for about $200 (I think
>it was $169).
>
I think this is a model I tried to get working with my cube. The problem
with this thing was that you have to disable parity on your scsi controller.
This is not a problem with most scsi controllers. The NeXT scsi controller
has no way to set the parity. Like I said I think that it was the CDR25
but call NEC support to make sure.
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From: kluge@avalon.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge)
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.160338.22245@ifi.unizh.ch>
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
References: <1993Sep17.103134.28568@coco.ms.washington.edu> <27ht6u$h0g@ni.umd.edu> <27jpvg$5li@spock.dis.cccd.edu> <1993Sep22.032653.8424@ifi.unizh.ch> <27u2io$9f1@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 16:03:38 GMT
Could the human being with the name
Trey McClendon <sci34hub!tybrin4!holli!me@uunet.UU.NET
and the as well illegal address tybrin4!trey@sci34hub.sci.com
supply me with a legal RFC822 conforming Internet-Adress, so I could
reply to his post.......
-daniel
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From: hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!cusa!magnusson!kris (Kristopher Magnusson)
Subject: Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.143802.1563@magnusson.uucp>
Sender: kris@magnusson.uucp
Organization: Salt Lake area NeXT Group
References: <27qahjINNhod@tma3.hal.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 14:38:02 GMT
In article <27qahjINNhod@tma3.hal.COM> stanh@hal.COM (Stanley Henderson)
writes:
| I am trying to locate an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro card with
| 2MB of video ram. I want the VESA Local Bus version of
| this board.
|
| I've talked to ATI and they are coming out with a new
| Rev. 6 Mach32 board (retail and OEM version), but the
| backorder log must be tremendous. I cannot find one
| with my distributor or any other distributor for that matter.
|
| If anyone has (or no someone who has) one of these boards
| please send me e-mail at stanh@hal.com with price and any
| ordering information. I need a board yesterday! I don't
| need someone who can order me one or anything like that
| because I already have 4 backordered to date.
|
| Thanks.
|
| -Stan Henderson
| stanh@hal.com
Welcome to the wonderful world of PCs running NEXTSTEP. Thought just because
you're running the best software in the world, you could get any part you
needed, any time you needed? The days of buying from a single, relatively
reliable supplier are GONE, GONE, GONE!!!
I have _13_ machines on backorder waiting for ATI cards. The new rev will be
out in the long run, but to quote my favorite economist, in the long run we'll
all be dead.
Kris Magnusson
Alpine Computing
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From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby)
Subject: Re: Internal modems under NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Sep23.161632.6187@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
References: <CEDMAN.93Sep22192959@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1993 16:16:32 GMT
In article <CEDMAN.93Sep22192959@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu
(Carl Edman) writes:
> Are internal modems officially supported under NS/FIP ? Are there any
> actual success stories ? If you have one, I'd be much obliged if you
> could email me with the hardware/software configuration and any other
> relevant comments. I'm particularly interested in hearing from
> people who've had success with Gateway 66Vs but experiences with other
> platforms will be gladly accepted as well. Also, does anyone know if
> internal modems suffer from the same serial drivers problems which
> have plagued external modems ?
>
> Carl Edman
We are using the one that came with gatway.. It seems to be working fine,
but there is a problem on incoming calls when they hangup out going seems
fine..
Rick
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From: bell@balata.nosc.mil (Thomas Bell)
Subject: Re: Sound Card Problems!
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.204901.17968@nosc.mil>
Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News)
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA
References: <1993Sep22.203446.4490@ToTSySSoft.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 20:49:01 GMT
In article <1993Sep22.203446.4490@ToTSySSoft.com> rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard
Jacoby) writes:
> I have a friend who has a gateway with a Pro Audio Spectrum(Or what ever its
> called) sound card installed. It's supposed to be supported by NeXTStep(I
says
> so in the compatability sheets) Any way, once it does a sound for any
reason,
> like pressing the wrong key in a terminal... It just keeps on repeating this
> sound until he reboots..
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Rick
I had the same problem with a machine I built up. Selecting an alternate
interrupt cleared up the problem. You may have to do a little experimenting
to determine which interrupt works best. Try to avoid using interrupt 5.
Also, if this is an ISA machine don't use DMA channels 0, 5, 6, or 7.
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From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: Will TOSHIBA (XM3201A) CD Drive work with NeXT Station
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.201051.23218@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 20:10:51 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with this drive. I am also still trying to
find out what brand and model the NeXT CD ROM drive was.
Greg
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From: scott@corybant.rmnug.org (Scott Meyer)
Subject: Re: Boot to DOS from a second hard disk?
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.025110.23809@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: scott@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
References: <DEAN.93Sep21234457@world.std.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 02:51:10 GMT
In article <DEAN.93Sep21234457@world.std.com> dean@world.std.com (Dean S
Banfield) writes:
> In article <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu> qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu (Feng Qiu) writes:
>
> :: My system is a 486/DX2 66MHz with a 525 M hard disk loaded with
> :: NeXTStep3.1. I have a second hard disk bootable for DOS and Windows but
> :: without NeXTStep partition. My question is how can you boot to the second
> :: hard disk to DOS? Now in order to run DOS(I have no SoftPC) I have to
> :: disconnect the hard disk for NeXTStep and set it at master mode then
> :: reboot.
> ::
>
> Two choices, neither too pleasant:[...]
Actually there's a third. Buy a piece of equipment called a
"fixed disk slide" (made by Mobrik (sp?) available from JDR). It
allows you to mount a regular 3.5" hard disk on a removable cartridge.
Have one disk for NS/I, one for DOS, etc. I use this to run
DOS, NT, OS/2 and Unix from the same PC. Works like a charm.
-Scott
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scott@corybant.rmNUG.ORG - NeXT mail is welcome.
From: djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: whining drive in a turbo, what to do?
Date: 24 Sep 1993 22:25:31 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <27vs4r$kcc@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <GBOL.93Sep23102656@nos40nm.shell.com>
In article <GBOL.93Sep23102656@nos40nm.shell.com> gbol@nos40nm.shell.com
(Gregory B. Lampshire) writes:
>
> I have a whining drive in my turbo. It is
> a 250Mb Seagate I believe.
>
>
>
> Awhile ago some people posted about the
> same problem but I cannot remember if there
> were any solutions posted?
>
> Any help for my ringing ears is greatly
> appreciated...
[stuff deleted]
We have encountered a number of whining drives in our various slabs. (turbo
& non-turbo, 5 drives out of 20 so far). They are all Segate ST1480N.
Unfortunately, most of the disks have started the noise after the 1year
warranty expired. Segate gets ~$450 each to rebuild them!
I too am interested in anyone elses experiences with these drives.
-david jepson-
Stratus Computer Inc.
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From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler)
Subject: Re: Need help w/ upgrading to Turbo
References: <27tclu$i17@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 07:20:09 GMT
Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Sender: news@tkymail.sps.mot.com
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.072009.22662@tkymail.sps.mot.com>
Aslam Haswarey writes
Trying to upgrade to a TurboNeXT (Cube version) from a 040-25MHz.
Getting exception #5 while trying to boot from the scsi disk.
What does this mean? Am currently running 2.1 on the 040-25MHz.
Is there a way to probe the SCSI bus to determine what's on the bus?
Is there a FAQ on upgrading to a TurboNeXT.
Upgrade your software. 2.1 won't work.
NeXTstep v.2.2 or greater/later is required to get a Turbo up to speed...
---
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Tokyo Design Center
Nippon Motorola Ltd.
+813 3280 8245 voice
+813 3440 0033 fax
mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail]
From: t89djo@albireo (David Jonsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/I on OPTI VESA 495 SX
Date: 24 Sep 1993 22:40:19 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <27vt0j$ebs@corax.udac.uu.se>
References: <274c61$j6@corax.udac.uu.se>
t89djo@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (David Jonsson) writes:
: t89djo@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (David Jonsson) writes:
:
: : Window the mouse stops to work normally and is impossible to control so
: : the installation cant continue. On Pointing Devices it stands PS/2 mouse but
: : I have a serial one. Can this be changed in some way?
: : Installation would be easy to continue if the mouse had been usable.
This can be cured. Remove the mouse. Press its buttons to remove electricity
from its capacitors. Reconnect but move mouse slowly. This happens if both
caches are turned of in the CMOS.
: I have finally succeded in installing on the SCSI but it is SO SLOW to run.
: I don't know why. Strange thing that I had to do the intallation over and
: over again until it worked. The successful installation took over 6 hours to
: complete. I guess I have to some change in my CMOS.
I finally found out that external cache enabled made the computer to misbehave.
After having turned of the external cache I haven't had one problem.
Internal cache must be turned on or the mouse will bail out.
David
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From: scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley)
Subject: Large, high-resolution greyscale monitors for 80x86 computers
Message-ID: <scratch.748909908@sundance.sce.carleton.ca>
Summary: A list of large high-resolution monochrome monitors for the "PC" market
Keywords: Large high-resolution greyscale monochrome monitor vga 1280x1024x256
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 22:31:48 GMT
As indicated in my previous post, here is a summary of what I
have received about large, high-resolution monochrome (greyscale)
monitors that can attach to cards such as the ATI Ultra Pro or
the Compaq Qvision.
Company: Nanao USA Corporation, Torrance, CA
Model: Flexscan 6500
Description: 21" Flat Screen, flexible scanning, 1664 x 1200
max. res. at max. 60 Hz. 1280 x 1024 at max. 75
Hz. 120MHz video bandwidth, anti-reflective panel
and compliance with MPR-II.
Phone: (310) 325-5202 -- Nanao will send you some information.
(800) 800-5202
Fax: (310) 530-1679
I found one for $1299.00 US through a mail-order company.
_____________________________________________
A fellow in Norway mentioned the following monitor. It is (I
gather) easily available in Norway.
Company: Eizo, Itchikawa, Japan
Model: 6500 (is this a co-incidence?)
Description: 21" with at least 1280x1024 resolution. Can be
used with ATI Ultra Pro.
----------------------------------------------
That's about it. Another suggestion was buying a monitor from a
decomissioned IBM RT from the Canadian government and using a VGA
to BNC adapter cable.
Hope this helps some people and saves them the hours that I put
into the search. If you find anything more, please let me know.
Craig Scratchley
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From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: SUMMARY: Will TOSHIBA (XM3201A) CD Drive work with NeXT Station
Message-ID: <1993Sep24.234055.10547@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
References: <1993Sep24.201051.23218@sol.UVic.CA>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 93 23:40:55 GMT
Someone asked me to post any responses to the original post so here they are:
Subject: M8. What non-NeXT CD Players that work with a NeXT?
A USENET survey summary:
Apple CD-150
PLI 1035N for NeXT
SUN CD-ROM drive (Sony CDU-8012, Rev. 3.1a)
NEC 73M and 74 (transfer rates > of 300 KB/sec.)
Apple CD-SC (Sony 541-22 mechanism)
Chinon CDS-431 (with new drivers)
Eclipse CD-ROM from Microtech
Toshiba 3201
Toshiba 3301
Toshiba 3401
Toshiba TXM3301E1
Toshiba XM-2200A external
DENON DRD-253 external (data only, no music)
HP's LaserROM drive (Toshiba XM-3301TA drive in HP's box)
Charles Lloyd
The NeXT CD drive is a Sony 541.
David Jepson
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From: jhall@barbados.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff Hallgren)
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Message-ID: <CDw1Fo.8oo@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
References: <27u2io$9f1@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 02:24:00 GMT
In article <27u2io$9f1@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice
Shihadi) writes:
> HEAT< HEAT< HEAT< HEAT<
>
> Heat from the Dec drive causes errors.
>
> Also, I believe the limit for a non partitioned drive is 2 gig for NeXTSTEP 3.0.
>
> maurices
Huh? I've had a DSP3105 in my slab running 24hrs a day for almost 2 months
and I have not had any heat problems.
Jeff
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Welcome to the world of horrors (Intel 486)
Message-ID: <1993Sep18.063353.2927@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <27ckvb$1nj@bleys.hasc.ca>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1993 06:33:53 GMT
In article <27ckvb$1nj@bleys.hasc.ca> darcy@solutions.ca (Darcy Brockbank)
writes:
> In article <1993Sep15.210719.502@CAM.ORG!planon> stephane@planon.qc.ca
writes:
>
> > I hate Intel-based computer. Please give me an alternative.
>
> They're called Snakes and Hummingbirds. Coming soon to a theatre near
> you :-).
Interesting redefinition of the word "soon", or do you know something I
don't know?
Paul
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From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTcube '040 and Opcode MIDI Translator II Inteface?
Date: 25 Sep 1993 02:26:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <280a8u$7nk@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
I was told this combination would work (NeXTcube '040 and Opcode MIDI
Translator II Inteface) but upon taking it home I get input to the NeXT but no
output. I'm running a demo of Presto v0.9.6b and can get neither pass through
or playback of MIDI data.
Do I need a special cable (if so, which lines need to be connected where?) or
should I be using comm port A instead of B? Is there another program that I
could use to test MIDI receive and send? Is there anyone out there doing MIDI
on a NeXT who would like to be my mentor for a while? Does Diet Doctor Pepper
really taste more like Regular Doctor Pepper? Does anyone care?
Thanks!
--
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========================================================================
From: skim@turtle.mrj.com (Stan Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSFIP install problem
Date: 24 Sep 1993 23:56:22 -0400
Organization: MRJ, Inc./Oakton, Virginia, USA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <280fh6$pte@turtle.mrj.com>
Help! I am encountering these error messages when
trying to install NSFIP on my Intel machine:
PS2 keyboard Unexpected ACK
PC Pointer Probe Mouse Init Failure
I reach the panel that allows you to select a computer
from a list and then I'm dead. Keyboad and mouse input
have no effect.
I am using a Logitech serial mouse (its about 3 years old)
at COM1, port address 3F8. My machine has an ISA Bus,
NeXT CDROM drive, Seagate ST3655N SCSI disk drive, and
ADAPTEC 1542C SCSI controller (floppy disabled).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Stan skim@mrj.com
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From: bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon)
Subject: Re: NeXT printer to a SPARCstation 2 ??
Message-ID: <CDv7A8.G76@lotus.com>
Sender: news@lotus.com
Organization: Lotus Development
References: <1993Sep20.172316.832@vaxsar.vassar.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1993 15:34:55 GMT
In article <1993Sep20.172316.832@vaxsar.vassar.edu> priestdor@vaxsar.vassar.edu
writes:
> Has anyone out there connected a NeXT laser printer to a Sun? Any info would
> be of value. The NeXT has a 9pin D connector and the instructions are to
> "plug it into the cube." Well the cube is dead now. We still have the
> printer. So, if anybody has done this (or found other ways to use the
> printer apart from the cube), please let me know.
The NeXT laser printer has no real intelligence. All of the rendering occurs in
the Display Postscript server in the cube. It dumps bits at high speed at the
printer through a custom hardware interface. Since Sun supports similar
rendering technology (NeWSPrint) it's technically possible but I doubt that
anyone has gone to the trouble of building an equivalent hardware interface.
--bob
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From: jeffblum@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum)
Subject: Re: whining drive in a turbo, what to do?
Message-ID: <1993Sep25.072235.28255@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <GBOL.93Sep23102656@nos40nm.shell.com> <27vs4r$kcc@transfer.stratus.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 07:22:35 GMT
In article <27vs4r$kcc@transfer.stratus.com>,
Dave_Jepson <djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com> wrote:
>In article <GBOL.93Sep23102656@nos40nm.shell.com> gbol@nos40nm.shell.com
>(Gregory B. Lampshire) writes:
>>
>> I have a whining drive in my turbo. It is
>> a 250Mb Seagate I believe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Awhile ago some people posted about the
>> same problem but I cannot remember if there
>> were any solutions posted?
>>
>> Any help for my ringing ears is greatly
>> appreciated...
>[stuff deleted]
>
>We have encountered a number of whining drives in our various slabs. (turbo
>& non-turbo, 5 drives out of 20 so far). They are all Segate ST1480N.
>Unfortunately, most of the disks have started the noise after the 1year
>warranty expired. Segate gets ~$450 each to rebuild them!
>
>I too am interested in anyone elses experiences with these drives.
>
>-david jepson-
>Stratus Computer Inc.
>#include std.disclamer
I also have a whiny drive. I originally thought it was the fan in the
machine, but someone told me that it was probably a bad bearing in the
drive. If this is true, how much life is probably left in this drive?
Any recommendations for what to do with it? I would hate to put any
important data on it if it will probably expire in a few months.
Thanks!
-jeff
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forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
From: smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Date: 25 Sep 1993 07:54:16 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: world
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References: <CDw1Fo.8oo@news.cis.umn.edu>
In article <CDw1Fo.8oo@news.cis.umn.edu> jhall@barbados.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff
Hallgren) writes:
> In article <27u2io$9f1@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu
(Maurice
> Shihadi) writes:
> > HEAT< HEAT< HEAT< HEAT<
> >
> > Heat from the Dec drive causes errors.
> >
> Huh? I've had a DSP3105 in my slab running 24hrs a day for almost 2
months
> and I have not had any heat problems.
> Jeff
I have had several customers with heat problems with the DEC drive. I myself
had such problems, even inside a cube, which has much better airflow. Pay the
extra $100 and get an HP. By far the most reliable drive I've ever had, and
believe me, I abuse drives...
--
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Spherical Solutions
22 Miller Avenue, Suite A
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-380-0383--voice
415-380-0381--fax
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From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt)
Subject: Need pictures of certain machines
Message-ID: <1993Sep25.041634.242@drefla.mese.com>
Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com
Organization: Applied Engineering
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 04:16:34 GMT
In my quest to investigate the feasability of the 68060 accelerator for black
hardware I find that I need pictures of the following machines (looking down at
the motherboard with the cover off):
- non-turbo monochrome slab
- non-turbo color slab
- 25Mhz cube motherboard
- turbo cube motherboard
- turbo monochrome slab
Basically I only have a turbo color slab here to measure and I need to make a
rough guess as to whether or not I will need different boards for the different
machines due to space constraints. The best possible mechanism for this would
be a hi-res gif that you could mail or put up for ftp. Second best is to mail a
photo by snail mail. If you want your machine to be supported then I need your
help on this.
If anyone in the Atlanta area has any of these machines then I could come by
and make my measurements and pictures at your convienence. This would obviously
be the optimum.
Send me mail if you can help with this.
matt
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From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt)
Subject: 68060 accelerator
Message-ID: <1993Sep25.043235.303@drefla.mese.com>
Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com
Organization: Applied Engineering
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 04:32:35 GMT
I've received quite a few replies to my post about doing a 68060 accelerator
and so I thought I would summarize my findings to date...
It looks like there is enough demand for this product to justify putting in the
time to do it. I am definately going to give it a go. Here is what you can
expect:
The accelerator will be a daughter board that plugs in to the 68040 socket. The
68040 will plug into the motherboard in case you want to run in native 68040
mode for some reason (too much speed makes you dizzy?). There will be a
loadable kernel server to handle the kernel patches necessary to provide
emulation for missing 040 features in the 060 and to enable and disable the 060
at will. Probably a preference panel to pick the 060 or 040 as the processor.
Performance of a 50Mhz 060 is given at 3.4 times a 25Mhz 040. This is the first
speed the 060 will be available in. You can expect around 80K Dhrystones for
compute bound stuff. The graphics will be sped up by quite a bit but things
like bus saturation will keep fills and window blits from gaining quite as
much. A very rough guess is an NXFactor of about 2 for a mono station and 1.5
for a color station. This us just based on how mac accelerators perform so
don't take it too seriously.
Software compatability shouldn't be much of a problem. The kernel patches and
emulation code will take care of the parts of the 040 instruction set that
don't exist in the 060. After browsing through the system file (which, nicely
enough, has the symbol table in it) I don't see any reason this should be an
impossible task.
Samples of the part won't be available till late this year or early next year.
I can get things ready for them so the prototype should be running around early
second quarter. Figure the end of the second quarter for the first availability
of real product. This (like all engineering schedules) is subject to change, A
LOT. It is very possible that the 060 production will be playing a poor second
fiddle to the PowerPC so it may get pushed out even farther. Keep your fingers
crossed...
We might still be able to leave those Pentium boxes in the dust after all....
matt
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From: bbrown@ganesha.solana.com (William Lewis Brown)
Subject: ProjectBuilder Extensibility/Source
Keywords: PB ProjectBuilder Source
Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (Usenet News)
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 11:50:00 GMT
Message-ID: <CDwrJD.t9@mv.mv.com>
Distribution: comp.sys.next.software, comp.sys.next.programmer
Hi,
I have a project that does not fit the mold of ProjectBuilder. It
includes, for example, libraries, daemons, and regular UNIX programs.
So, I began with the ProjectBuilder makefiles and crafted my own little
development environment. Unfortunely, I have been forced, due to the
lack of flexibility of ProjectBuilder(or at least to its percieved lack of
flexibility), to include features of which the ProjectBuilder UI is
completely ignorant. I can still build the project with PB, but adding
files to the subprojects just doesn't work. In addition, I need to make
the list of types of subprojects extensible. So, to complete the job,
I would like to modify PB itself. I can live without a modified PB, but,
I don't want to. Will/Does NeXT give PB source out?
You know, if just a bit more fore-thought had gone into the design
extensible PB, why can't NeXT? Thanks for your help.
bill brown
bbrown@solana.com
From: annard@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl (Annard Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Large, high-resolution greyscale monitors for 80x86 computers
Date: 25 Sep 1993 11:17:00 GMT
Organization: the Borg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2819bc$k5@theborg.stack.urc.tue.nl>
References: <scratch.748909908@sundance.sce.carleton.ca>
In article <scratch.748909908@sundance.sce.carleton.ca> scratch@sce.carleton.ca
(Craig Scratchley) writes:
> As indicated in my previous post, here is a summary of what I
> have received about large, high-resolution monochrome (greyscale)
> monitors that can attach to cards such as the ATI Ultra Pro or
> the Compaq Qvision.
>
In the Electronic Product News there is mentioned the following product:
Fujitsu FPF2000S
16" flat panel plasma display
1280x1024 (0.25mm dot pitch)
There is no mention what kind of card it needs, however you can call Fujitsu in
Germany: 49 6103 690 0
Annard
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People? You can forget it.
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From: mjulku@cs.joensuu.fi (Mikko Julku)
Subject: Re: New S3 Driver Available
Message-ID: <1993Sep25.123346.5971@cs.joensuu.fi>
Organization: University of Joensuu
References: <1993Sep21.140201.3115@Princeton.EDU> <27nip3$e3g@uropax.contrib.de>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 12:33:46 GMT
suckow@uropax.contrib.de (Ralf Suckow) writes:
>gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
>>The new S3 driver, which supports S3-928 based cards, is now on
>>ftp.next.com.
>Have any changes been done on the algorithms for S3-805, to make
>it faster. Does it make sense for S3-805 users to update the driver?
Or..
I have 2 meg S3-805 card, when will I see 1024*768 color graphics ?
>Thank you,
>Ralf
>--
>Ralf Suckow, Berlin |
>suckow@contrib.de | Do you think it's difficult to speak Russian?
>Contributed Software | Every Moscow kid aged 5 years speaks it perfectly.
>only delivers my mail.|
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From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New S3 driver & Diamond Viper
Date: 25 Sep 1993 14:17:13 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <281jt9$ai6@ni.umd.edu>
References: <bchin.748822396@news.andi.org> <1993Sep24.133812.1556@princeton.edu>
In article <1993Sep24.133812.1556@princeton.edu> gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
>The S3-928 board is (according to DEC tech support and sales) built by
>Digital. The part number is FR-PCT7H-EB (with 1 meg) and FR-PCT7M-CB
>(for 1 meg upgrade). According to DEC, the board is capable of 33
>Million Winmarks (not relevant to NS/I), I know, but it's about twice
>the windows performance of DEC's 805 board.
>
>I hope to get one of these DEC-built boards and swap with an ATI in
>one of our systems for testing and benchmarking, as soon as possible.
Were you going to try to use the DEC board in another system? You may
want to double check. In a review of the DECpc 466dt MTE in Computer
Shopper (sigh):
It has seven EISA expansion slots; as a result of the high
integration of the motherboard, six of these are free. The seventh
features a combined VL-Bus and proprietary extension used by DEC for
its own accelerator boards, such as the video card in the 466d2. This
slot has a VL-BUs connector on one end and a proprietary connector on
the other.
So the board may not actually work on a non-DEC system.
I've never seen any of the hardware in question, and I certainly don't
rely on Computer Shopper as a source of authoritative information, but
this probably calls for digging a bit further before planning to use the
DEC S3-928 video board in another system.
Louis Mamakos
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace)
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Message-ID: <jgraceCDx2wI.90p@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <CDw1Fo.8oo@news.cis.umn.edu> <280tf8$d3n@nntp.crl.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 15:55:29 GMT
In article <280tf8$d3n@nntp.crl.com> smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger") writes:
>I have had several customers with heat problems with the DEC drive. I myself
>had such problems, even inside a cube, which has much better airflow. Pay the
>extra $100 and get an HP. By far the most reliable drive I've ever had, and
>believe me, I abuse drives...
[Well, here's my HP "caveat emptor" form posting. Basically,
HP isn't all it's cracked up to be... especially when you need
timely service. Considering HP was once a paradigm of corporate
excellence, my experience dealing with them was very
disappointing.]
I have a 2 Gig HP drive, the C3010 (SCSI-II...).
My advice is... think at least twice before buying an HP drive.
I found out the hard way (trying to get my drive repaired) that
HP does not warranty the drive to the end-user but only to the
distributor. The distributor didn't want to repair the drive
since my vendor (Tecor) is now out of business. Eventually, HP
took over a month to replace my drive with "expedited" service
and only did so begrudgingly. HP refused to deal with me
directly but required me to deal with their distributor
(middle-man) to have the distributor have HP repair the drive.
Furthermore, HP personnel were duplicitous, unreliable, and
unprofessional to deal with. They never did ship me a new drive
as they promised (instead they shipped a low serial number
refurbished drive, I believe). This service nightmare was very
recent ("ended" July 29, 1993). Needless to say, I would not buy
an HP again without carefully exploring the so-called "HP"
warranty. I hope my current HP equipment never requires service
again.
If anyone would like a copy of the letter I sent to Lew Platt,
President of HP, outlining the problems HP has with their
customer service, I can forward a copy. Mr. Lew Platt didn't
care to reply, though I requested he do so. Also, the HP "reply"
from Mr. Bruce Spenner, General Manager of Disk Memory Division
at HP, did not address the full issues I raised in my carefully
prepared letter. Instead, the General Manager's short, cursory
letter concluded:
If you should have any additional questions regarding our
warranty policy, please contact Eric Abrahms [mis-spelled!]
([xxx/xxx-xxxx]), located in the corporate office of our
authorized distributor, Arrow Electronics, Inc.; Commercial
Systems Group.
Even dealing with customer service issues explicitly, my
experience is HP stonewalls and isolates itself from the
customer. For a premium, mission-critical piece of equipment, a
$3,785.00 hard drive at time of purchase, I expected much more
reasonable service.
If you do choose to go with HP, try to get a copy of "your" 5
year "HP" warranty first and see what you get , if anything!
Then ask what the advertised "5 year" warranty means if it
doesn't extend to you! :-) :-) :-)
My bottom-line advice is: caveat emptor!
(By the way, the DEC drives looked pretty nice to me as I was
preparing to buy a replacement drive since HP missed its third
return deadline. However, I suppose you should check DEC's
warranty too. I never got that far before discovering HP had
lied to me about a "shortage" of C3010 drives.)
Cheers,
= Joe =
p.s., technologically the HP drives seem fine (though my original
drive did fail). My foremost gripe would be the noise of the
drives, especially when seeking. The DEC drives are supposedly
relatively quiet.
From: keiblin@cs.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Keiblinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Who knows the Fujitsu M2511A MO-Drive ?
Date: 25 Sep 1993 16:59:47 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <281te3$9kg@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hy,
I do not know, if my Fujitsu M2511A is broken. It works for me with NSI 3.1,
but I have strange and VERY loud noise while writing.
It sounds as if a floppy is calibrating all the time. Is this normal for
this drive ?
Impressions from anyone who is using this drive would help.
Thanks ... Alex keiblinger
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"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Date: 25 Sep 1993 18:36:27 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Message-ID: <28233bINNi9d@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <CDw1Fo.8oo@news.cis.umn.edu> <280tf8$d3n@nntp.crl.com> <jgraceCDx2wI.90p@netcom.com>
In article <jgraceCDx2wI.90p@netcom.com> jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace) writes:
>I found out the hard way (trying to get my drive repaired) that
>HP does not warranty the drive to the end-user but only to the
>distributor.
When I was shopping for a new drive, Larry Cohen at Peripheral Solutions
(800-ALL-DISK), explained that some manufacturers expect distributors to deal
with warranty replacements (Seagate is an example) whereas others deal with the
end-customer (DEC was given as an example with its 48-hour warranty replacement
guarantee). While both may offer 5-year warranties, dealing with a distributor
can take up to 2 weeks for Seagate replacements, so that steered me toward the
DEC DSP3105S even though it was about $100 more than an equivalent Seagate
drive. But I don't seem to have my warranty in writing (that I can find, at
least :-) so I'm going to call Larry on Monday to clarify this warranty issue.
Concerning excessive heat reports, I asked Larry about this even though I
was purchasing an external drive. As I recall, he said that some early
DSP3105S's ran hot, but that he had not had any problems with recent drives
installed as internals (this was in June).
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: gonzo@cs.tu-berlin.de (S. F. Ruehauf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: power supply for an old 68030 bord
Date: 25 Sep 1993 18:58:20 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <2824cc$aa3@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Keywords: power supply, bus, cube
Hello
I just bought an old 69030 bord.
just the bord from the old cube.
I would like to turn it into a real computer with
a normal serial terminal.
What I need is the power supply pins on the bus connector.
Who knows where to put the 12V, -12V and 5V cables?
I read this "built your own bord" paper from the NeXT kit.
but someone told me, it's buggy.
Who did it and wants to help
Hey, Sam Goldberger, still out there?
thanx
Stephan
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From: john@macc.wisc.edu (John W. Woodward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which motherboards work with NS/FIP?
Date: 25 Sep 1993 19:13:56 GMT
Organization: Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
Message-ID: <28259k$rp6@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
Subject line says it all: which brand of motherboards work
best with NS/FIP? And which brands should I avoid?
Respond directly to me (john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu) and I'll
be happy to summarize for the net!
john
john@nomad.phys.lsu.edu
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From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: Does the Supra External modem do fax on NS/i?
Message-ID: <1993Sep25.191250.3342@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Keywords: power supply, bus, cube
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA
References: <2824cc$aa3@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 19:12:50 GMT
I would like to buy a Supra 14.4 data/fax modem and am wondering whether this
will work with the fax features of NeXTSTEP.
thanks,
greg
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From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: Exactly how do I create the 'power' user to shut down a machine?
Message-ID: <1993Sep25.191646.3427@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Keywords: power supply, bus, cube
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA
References: <2824cc$aa3@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 19:16:46 GMT
In the sysadmin docs, the authors mention creating a user called power so
that a person with the appropriate passwd can halt the machine without
logging in and starting a terminal (which can be hard if your mouse goes
nuts.) There instructions were to make /etc/fasthalt -s the Workspace for
this user. There instructions are ambiguous to me.
Thanks,
greg
ps
it's ns/i
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
Subject: HP550c, where to get it?
Message-ID: <Sep.21.15.31.42.1993.8967@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 21 Sep 93 19:31:43 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All.
Welp I decided that I want to get ac parallel printer. The question is...Where is a good & cheap place to find such a beast? Or better yet is anyone selling there HP550c let me know.
Anyhow, I appreciate an tips on a good place to buy from !
Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Network cards, which are the best?
Message-ID: <Sep.22.19.13.48.1993.22761@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 22 Sep 93 23:13:48 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi all,
Time for me to get a net card... The net seems to think that the Intel card currently supported by NeXTSTEP intel is the best card.
Question 1: How much cache does the intel card have, and what is its throughput (approximately) compared to the built in connector on black harware.
Question 2: Are there better cards other than the intel card that currently are not supported by NSi, but may have more cache or better throughput?
Question 3: Where is a good place to get the intel net card?
Thanks in advance for all/any help :)
Later, John
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 4Meg (or better) VLBUS Video cards...
Message-ID: <Sep.23.16.39.21.1993.15866@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 23 Sep 93 20:39:21 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
I know that currently the only 4meg card that NeXT supports is the one that comes with the DEC MTE d2 with the S3-928 LB card with 4meg VRAM. Couple of questions to ya all.
1) Now with 4meg Vram, there is no reason why one cannot get 1120X832 pixels at 32bits per pixel. Will this be possible with this card assuming a driver update in the future.
2) Does anyone know if the STB Pegasys [spelling?] with 4meg vram , also an S3928 card, works under NSi with the new driver?
3) If some one out there has an S3 card working under NSi, would you please let me know where you got it from?
4) Are there any cards that exist anywhere that have 8 megs of VRAM on them? Im trying to get 1600X1200 in 32bits.
Thanks for the info!!!
Later, John
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NSFIP worked fine with PCI + 805 on PCI
Date: 23 Sep 1993 09:26:15 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <27rmj8$1k8@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <TUTUI.93Sep20111426@pipi.ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
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tutui@ics.kula.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takashi TSUTSUI) writes:
>Ns FIP worked fine with PCI MB + 805 PCI Display card at VGA/SVGA mode
> + Adaptec 1542B/C on isa. The Mb have phoenix bios for PCI.
>The performance is good enough but I have not enough memory to use
>NSFIP, my memory size is 4MB * 2, I still cannot figure out the
>true performance of the system.
>NeXTSTEP worked fine with colour. :o
>The MB is made in thailand, using intel Version 2 saturn chipset, there are no
>further large chips on the MB, except NCR SCSI II IF, 256kb write back
>Cache (expandable to 512), and 2 bank 32bit*2*2 simm slots.
>I have heard that there are some problems on the 'data acknowledge?'
>when used with OS2. But I use nextstep without problems.
I'd say only 8 MB RAM is a really severe problem!
But if you can fill your banks up to at least 16 or 24 MB, could you
please run NXBench and report the results of the graphics performance?
My dream is a PCI board with S3-928P graphics - it should outperform
any NS/I box and TurboColorStation.
--
/dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart
/usr/spool/mail mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
~/.ircrc/nick Marsu
/etc/motd Yesterday MS-DOS reformatted my NeXTSTEP partiton.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Questions about SCSI tape drives and Nextstep
Date: 23 Sep 1993 09:34:17 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <27rn29$1l4@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <27ks0b$13l@transfer.stratus.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson) writes:
>Has anyone tried using a cartridge tape drive with Nextstep?
>I have tried a Wangtec 5150s, Archive 2150s, and an Archive python 4mm DAT.
>The ONLY one that will work is the DAT! I have tried all of them with the
>posted SCSI tape driver fix.
>Configuration:
>Adaptec 1542-C
>HD scsi id 0
>tape scsi 5
I use a SCSI-QIC Sankyo CP525 successfully with NeXTSTEP, same configuration
as yours (1542C), except the ID, but that cannot make any difference.
If I want to read tapes written by other Unix derivates, I have to change
the operating mode to fixed block size (with mtset from scsitools), but I
can also write my own tapes in variable block mode.
At least one nasty behaviour I noticed: If you once changed to fixed block
size, there's no way to switch back to variable size except reboot. The
reverse ioctl() call (sending MTIOCVARBLK) obviously doesn't work, I cannot
read tapes with variable block size any more.
Regards,
Markus.
--
/dev Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart
/usr/spool/mail mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
~/.ircrc/nick Marsu
/etc/motd Yesterday MS-DOS reformatted my NeXTSTEP partiton.
From: bosborne@nature.BErkeley.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: tape drives
Date: 25 Sep 1993 17:21:37 -0400
Organization: The Ohio State University
Sender: daemon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Message-ID: <9309252122.AA13020@nature.berkeley.edu.cnr-net>
djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson) writes:
>Has anyone tried using a cartridge tape drive with Nextstep?
I use a tape drive from a Mac vendor, Relax Technologies. The
mechanism itself is a TEAC, and it takes 600 Mb tapes. Block
size must be set to '512' of course, then I use gnutar.
------------------------------------------------------------
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bosborne@nature.berkeley.edu Albany CA USA
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From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Compaq LTE Trackball
Date: 26 Sep 1993 00:29:10 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <282nom$i2v@crcnis1.unl.edu>
I am in the midst of loading NeXTSTEP/Intel onto a Compaq LTE laptop.
There is a note in NeXTanswers about to contact them for update on
built-in trackball support. Does anyone know what this involves?
(It seems to work fine in the docking station with a PS/2 mouse -
but the trackball isn't working)
Thanks,
Hubert Hickman
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From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: ProjectBuilder Extensibility/Source
Message-ID: <CDxsC5.o2@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services
References: <CDwrJD.t9@mv.mv.com>
Distribution: comp.sys.next.software, comp.sys.next.programmer
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 01:02:42 GMT
William Lewis Brown (bbrown@ganesha.solana.com) wrote:
: I have a project that does not fit the mold of ProjectBuilder. It
: includes, for example, libraries, daemons, and regular UNIX programs.
: So, I began with the ProjectBuilder makefiles and crafted my own little
: development environment. Unfortunely, I have been forced, due to the
: lack of flexibility of ProjectBuilder(or at least to its percieved lack of
...
I gave up last June. I've learned to hack Makefiles in my sleep. I'd
rather do other things in my sleep, but for now I manage my makefiles.
Rumor was that this would be appeased in the not-so-distant future. Or,
if you were selling "PDO" would you expect your consumers to hack their
own makefiles? Just a thought.
peter
--
...future author of:
"Safe Cellular Compilations at Speeds Greater Than 140 kph."
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From: Neil Greene <neil@bMD.com>
Subject: Intel or Motorola?? Which one?
Message-ID: <1993Sep25.230329.17444@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex, KY)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 23:03:29 GMT
I don't know if it is necessary to start a seperate group. But couldn't
we at least start putting something in the headers to know if people are
talking about Motolora hardware or intel based machines??
[I]ntel
[M]otorola
???
From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Compaq LTE Trackball
Date: 26 Sep 1993 02:16:32 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <282u20$ipm@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <282nom$i2v@crcnis1.unl.edu>
hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman) writes:
>I am in the midst of loading NeXTSTEP/Intel onto a Compaq LTE laptop.
>There is a note in NeXTanswers about to contact them for update on
>built-in trackball support. Does anyone know what this involves?
>(It seems to work fine in the docking station with a PS/2 mouse -
>but the trackball isn't working)
>Thanks,
>Hubert Hickman
Fixed the trackball problem. Now the problem is that the keyboard doesn't
work.
Here are the symptoms:
- the LTE's keyboard works in the NeXT bootmanager. After it boots,
though, no go. Nuthin'.
- Plug a regular 101-key keyboard into the LTE's keyboard/mouse port and
the external keyboard works fine.
- Plug a regular 101-key keyboard into the LTE docking station's keyboard
port and the external keyboard doesn't work.
Any ideas? Note that this is a LTE 4/25E - the active mono version, with
20 MB of memory/209 MB hd and an internal modem.
One other thing is that the LTE only sees 26MB of RAM. I know that
Deskpros have this problem, but I didn't see anything in the setup to
change the memory to the "linear" model.
Anybody running NSi on one of these beasties?
BTW, I had to change the trackball to be on COM1 instead of "autoconfigure" and
change the configuration to include a serial mouse, and it works fine.
Hubert Hickman
hickman@cse.unl.edu
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From: mross@antigone.com
Subject: Will a color 17" MegaPixel work on a Mac?
Message-ID: <1993Sep26.024135.5675@antigone.com>
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 02:41:35 GMT
I have acquired a 17" color MegaPixel (Philips) and wondered if any cards for the
Macintosh will drive it. If so, what cable will fit the weird plug in the back of
the monitor? (It provides power as well, right?)
Thanks.
--
Michael Ross
Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
e-mail: mross@antigone.com
FAX: +1 415 431 3650
From: garnett@cs.caltech.edu (John W. Garnett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DECpc 466 d2 MTE: where do I find the best deals?
Date: 26 Sep 1993 03:30:34 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2832cqINN5ad@gap.caltech.edu>
Keywords: DEC pc 466 MTE VAR reseller NXBench NXFactor S3-928 digital
I've seen the standard configuration of the DECpc 466 d2 MTE
advertized by DEC (in Computer Shopper) for $3,324 (this configuration
needs beefed up in order handle NS/FIP). This price is fairly reasonable
but I'd like to spend as little money as possible (who wouldn't?). Does
anyone know of any resellers (VARs?) of this machine selling it for a better
price? I'm interested in resellers who will do mailorder or those within
reasonable driving distance of Pasadena.
The standard configuration included (in case resellers don't have
the same "standard" configuration for price comparison):
6 EISA slots with 1 VESA-VL
Local bus SVGA video
GUI accelerator
8 MB RAM
128KB cache
1MB video RAM
245MB hard drive
5 drive bays
3.5" floppy drive
Pentium Overdrive processor upgrade (ZIF socket?)
14" SVGA(i) color monitor
video adaptor
MS DOS 6.0/ MS WINDOWS 3.1
Mouse
101-key keyboard
Thanks,
John Garnett
p.s.
The NXBench numbers looked very good for this machine together with the
S3-928 video option.
The previously posted NXBench values for the DEC not using the S3-928 at
8bit grayscale were NXFactor 0.963 and Dhrystones 63291.
Recently, someone posted values for a DEC with the S3-928 which were
8bit grayscale NXFactor 1.36 and Dhrystones 61855.
Looks like the S3-928 makes quite a difference. I assume the previous
benchmark was produced with the S3-805.
I'm certainly looking forward to seeing the numbers for the DEC plus S3-928
with 4MB of VRAM and 1280x1024x16.
--
disclaimer: I'm not associated with DEC in any way. Just interested in
finding the best NS/FIP hardware for the money.
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From: dekorte@ibm19.scri.fsu.edu (Stephen L. DeKorte)
Subject: TTL into dsp
Sender: usenet@mailer.cc.fsu.edu
Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 05:17:19 GMT
Message-ID: <CDy40v.5L9@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>
Anyone know where I can get schematics for a circut that'll
let me read two TTL lines from the NeXT DSP port?
Thanks for any info,
Steve
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From: zaphod@madnix.uucp (Ron Bean)
Subject: Re: Large, high-resolution greyscale monitors for 80x86 computers
Message-ID: <1993Sep25.150018.26580@madnix.uucp>
Keywords: Large high-resolution greyscale monochrome monitor vga 1280x1024x256
Organization: ARP Software
References: <scratch.748909908@sundance.sce.carleton.ca>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 15:00:18 GMT
I tried to email this, but it bounced.
I found an ad that lists large mono and greyscale monitors.
I have not called them yet, so I don't know of they have anything
different from what you've already found.
Publishing Perfection
N88 W16444 Main St.
P.O. Box 307
Menomonee Falls, Wis 53051
Orders: 800-782-5974
FAX: 414-255-9640
Cust.Service, Wis. & Int'l orders: 414-255-7600
==================
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From: uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!holli!me (Trey McClendon)
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Message-ID: <1993Sep26.021130.3691@holli.uucp>
Sender: me@holli.uucp (My Account)
Organization: TYBRIN Corporation -- Huntsville, AL
References: <CDw1Fo.8oo@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 02:11:30 GMT
In article <CDw1Fo.8oo@news.cis.umn.edu> jhall@barbados.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff
Hallgren) writes:
> In article <27u2io$9f1@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu
(Maurice
> Shihadi) writes:
> > HEAT< HEAT< HEAT< HEAT<
> >
> > Heat from the Dec drive causes errors.
> >
> > Also, I believe the limit for a non partitioned drive is 2 gig for NeXTSTEP
3.0.
> >
> > maurices
> Huh? I've had a DSP3105 in my slab running 24hrs a day for almost 2
months
> and I have not had any heat problems.
> Jeff
It sure would be helpful to get to the bottom of this DEC DSP3105 mystery. Do
these DEC drives have such a wide variation in operating temperature that some
overheat in a marginal ventilation conditions?
Are all slab fans created equal? :)
Trey
--
Trey McClendon, Madison, AL
From: t89djo@albireo (David Jonsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Boot to DOS from a second hard disk?
Date: 26 Sep 1993 11:21:14 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <283tva$odd@corax.udac.uu.se>
References: <27ia1i$857@menudo.uh.edu>
qiu@tree.egr.uh.edu (Feng Qiu) writes:
:
: My system is a 486/DX2 66MHz with a 525 M hard disk loaded with
: NeXTStep3.1. I have a second hard disk bootable for DOS and Windows but
: without NeXTStep partition. My question is how can you boot to the second
: hard disk to DOS? Now in order to run DOS(I have no SoftPC) I have to
: disconnect the hard disk for NeXTStep and set it at master mode then
: reboot.
Shortly after reboot where you normally type <return> or sd()mach_kernel
you can type the n:th partition of the m:th IDE drive hd(n,m)Mach_kernel
or similar if you want to boot from a SCSI drive.
David
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SWEDEN
From: eric@tvnews.tv.tek.com (Eric F. Dorondo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP550c, where to get it?
Message-ID: <1993Sep26.152112.4526@tvnews.tv.tek.com>
Date: 26 Sep 93 15:21:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: tvnews.1993Sep26.152112.4526
References: <Sep.21.15.31.42.1993.8967@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Tektronix TV Measurement Systems, Beaverton, OR
In article <Sep.21.15.31.42.1993.8967@gandalf.rutgers.edu> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>
>Hi All.
>
> Welp I decided that I want to get ac parallel printer. The question is...Where is a good & cheap place to find such a beast? Or better yet is anyone selling there HP550c let me know.
>
>Anyhow, I appreciate an tips on a good place to buy from !
>
>Later, John
I heard at Incredible Universe, (a Tandy superstore), the HP deskjet 500 is
going for 299$, the 550 for 399$ and the 550C for 499$. This was word of
mouth so I haven't verified it. -eric
From: bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Q: Booting the CPU in a cube from a different slot?
Message-ID: <1993Sep26.173623.13992@cs.wisc.edu>
Date: 26 Sep 93 17:36:23 GMT
Sender: news@cs.wisc.edu (The News)
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Does anyone have any idea why I can't get an 030 CPU board to
boot up in a cube from a slot other than #0?
I want to get the 030 running with an 040 to do background
rendering and don't want to try Felix Lugo's approach of
re-numbering the backplane slots. This might risk blowing
drivers on the 040 board because the slot pins are used to
generate system-wide unique memory addresses (at least that's
the impression I get from reading the online documentation
"Operating Systems, Part 2: Writing Loadble Kernel Servers,
Section 7: NeXTbus").
The 030 board doesn't have an NBIC. The board comes up fine
if I plug in into a different slot (say #4) and the ROM
monitor correctly detects which slot it is in and doesn't
complain. However, if I actually try and boot up from either
the SCSI disk or OD, the drive chugs away for a couple of
seconds and then the boot process hangs. Pressing
Command-Command-~ to get back to the ROM fails and I have to
pull the plug :-( Why would booting from a SCSI drive be
affected by the slot number of the CPU ?!?! The online
documentation makes several references to multiple CPU's in
different slots, so I don't see why this is a problem. Any
ideas? Any NeXTbus expects out there? Do I need an NBIC chip
(where can I get these now)?
BTW: I've been trying this with *just* the 030 board in slot
#4 with the 040 board unplugged. After powering up I would
immediately go to the ROM monitor and try to boot (which
hangs). I also tried this with just the 040 board in slot #4,
which *immediately* hangs after powering up and I cant even
get to the ROM monitor.
- Gareth Bestor (bestor@cs.wisc.edu)
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DECpc NSI machine
Message-ID: <149839@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 26 Sep 93 18:52:39 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Hi,
Is the DECpc 466 mentioned in the computer shopper the same as the
"DECpc 466 MTE-d2 w/S3-805" listed in the NSI hardware compatability
guide? Also, is the S3 driver upgrade yet available? Is anyone running
NSI in 1024x768 8bit color on this hardware platform (without problems)?
Any information much appreciated.
Finally,
KRIS MAGNUSSON! I would love to hear what you think is the best
bang for the buck platform for NSI, but my e-mail to you bounced!
Do you have an e-mail address that is accessible from our .edu domain?
Thanks.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
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From: hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!cusa!magnusson!kris (Kristopher Magnusson)
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Message-ID: <1993Sep26.152902.1974@magnusson.uucp>
Sender: kris@magnusson.uucp
Organization: Salt Lake area NeXT Group
References: <CDw1Fo.8oo@news.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 15:29:02 GMT
In article <CDw1Fo.8oo@news.cis.umn.edu> jhall@barbados.umhc.umn.edu (Jeff
Hallgren) writes:
| In article <27u2io$9f1@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu
(Maurice
| Shihadi) writes:
| > HEAT< HEAT< HEAT< HEAT<
| >
| > Heat from the Dec drive causes errors.
| >
| > Also, I believe the limit for a non partitioned drive is 2 gig for
NeXTSTEP 3.0.
| >
| > maurices
| Huh? I've had a DSP3105 in my slab running 24hrs a day for almost 2
months
| and I have not had any heat problems.
| Jeff
I've noticed heat but have had no problems with errors. I sell about 10 of
these a month and not a one has had a problem with either heat or errors.
Kris
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From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: Formatting second IDE drive for both NS/i and DOS (ugh). How?
Message-ID: <1993Sep26.221128.3106@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 22:11:28 GMT
I spent the better part of today trying to figure out how to format
my second IDE hard drive for both NS/i and DOS. got through fdisk, but
from there on i am lost. i have no idea which device maps onto which
partition (/dev/hd1? -> partition ?) BuildDisk refused to do anything.
Please help!
thanks,
greg
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Subject: Maxtor XT8760S configuration info needed
Message-ID: <1993Sep26.012853.6720@nic.csu.net>
From: stan@cs.SFSU.EDU (Stan Osborne)
Date: 26 Sep 93 01:28:52 PDT
Keywords: Maxtor Configuration Cube
After installing a new 1.2Gb disk into a Cube as SCSI
target 1, we can not find instructions on how to reconfigure
the Maxtor XT8760S we removed. The Maxtor is now mounted
in shoe box. We would like to use it as an external disk to
copy the user data onto the new internal disk.
How do we set the SCSI id for this device?
Is there anything other jumper that will need changing?
(Nothing else should need changing as it was working in
the Cube before going into the shoe box.)
Is there someplace we can call that will FAX us a few pages
of disk drive configuration information?
If we can't get the Maxtor working soon, we have a full
backup made just before the drive was removed which we will
use to recover user files, etc.
Any advice on this will be appreciated.
--
Stan Osborne, Computer Science Department, SFSU
Internet: stan@cs.sfsu.edu Voice: (415) 338-2168
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Gateway IDE performance under NS/I?
Date: 27 Sep 1993 03:45:17 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <285nkd$g9h@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Could those of you with Gateway 2000 4dx2-66V systems share with me the
disk i/o performance with the IDE drives. I have 424MB caviar drive and I
have seen some low NXBench (?) values (<.3) on mine. Is this typical for
the built in IDE interface, or have I just misconfigured something?
I'm aware that the IDE design isn't the hottest (no DMA?!) around for
NS/I.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway IDE performance under NS/I?
Date: 27 Sep 1993 04:00:24 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <285ogo$ghk@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <285nkd$g9h@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <285nkd$g9h@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
a tired Jerry Weiss <jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> wrote:
>Could those of you with Gateway 2000 4dx2-66V systems share with me the
>disk i/o performance with the IDE drives. I have 424MB caviar drive and I
>have seen some low NXBench (?) values (<.3) on mine. Is this typical for
oops, I meant DrivePerformance here not NXBench.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
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From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: All these benchmark programs: where can I get them?
Message-ID: <1993Sep27.043758.13096@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 04:37:58 GMT
ftp sites would be great.
thanks.
greg
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From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: tape drives
Message-ID: <1993Sep27.093512.12888@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <9309252122.AA13020@nature.berkeley.edu.cnr-net>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 09:35:12 GMT
bosborne@nature.BErkeley.EDU writes:
>djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson) writes:
>>Has anyone tried using a cartridge tape drive with Nextstep?
>I use a tape drive from a Mac vendor, Relax Technologies. The
>mechanism itself is a TEAC, and it takes 600 Mb tapes. Block
>size must be set to '512' of course, then I use gnutar.
I use the tape-drive from Sun (originally it is an Archive). I
don't know by head the model-number, but it is the type for
DC6150 (150Mb) cartridges.
WIllem
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: My clock is running late (black hardware)
Message-ID: <1993Sep26.171919.3644@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1993 17:19:19 GMT
Subject tells almost all.
I'm running a NeXTstation 25MHz and have noticed the clock is running
considerably late (well, at least 10 minutes a year, probably more).
Is this normal behaviour or a fault?
Can I do anything about it?
Does anybody know whether this is a crystal or a line frequency driven
circuit?
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: geeslin@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Subject: Re: HP550c, where to get it?
Message-ID: <1993Sep27.082650.1@vms.ocom.okstate.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
References: <Sep.21.15.31.42.1993.8967@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 14:26:50 GMT
> Welp I decided that I want to get ac parallel printer. The question is...Where is a good & cheap place to find such a beast? Or better yet is anyone selling there HP550c let me know.
> Anyhow, I appreciate an tips on a good place to buy from !
> Later, John
John-
Office Depo was the best price/service/local warantee
here in Oklahoma.
Cordially,
R*
--
Robert H. Geeslin, Ed.D. | Voice (918) | Department
Geeslin@VMS.OCOM.OKSTATE.EDU | 582-2681 day| of
doing EDucational Programming for 20 years | 224-0065 eve| P. and B.S.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ian@mindvox.phantom.com (Ian Bainbridge)
Subject: Formatting second IDE hard drive
Message-ID: <Z2gJac1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
Originator: ian@mindvox
Sender: news@mindvox.phantom.com
Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 14:06:46 GMT
We have a 486 here running NS/FIP, with two hard disks. One of them is a
standard 525mb IDE that has NS installed and nothing else, the second is a
127mb hardcard EZ IDE drive, which has MSDOS and nothing else (the msdos
drive is access by inserted a dos floppy to make the machine boot from
msdos instead of NS).
How does one, firstly format a second IDE hard drive (specifically the
Hardcard EZ mechanism), and make NS recongize it? As in, how would we go
about allocating the 127mb as a news/swap disk for the main 525mb disk in
the workstation.
Cheers
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phantom. # I am not responsible for my opinons, I don't know or care! #
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From: sib@cs.umd.edu (Scott Ian Blanksteen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help - what do I need to run NSFIP on this hardware?
Date: 27 Sep 1993 10:57:46 -0400
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <286v1a$adf@ringding.cs.umd.edu>
I have been asked to find out what will need to be changed on the
following hardware to get NSFIP to run on it... The machine is at a
remote site, so I can't take a look at it to get more detailed
information. The people who have the machine are somewhat short on
clues. (It took three rounds of e-mail to get this much. :-( ) If
anyone has run NSFIP on a similar machine, I'd appreciate war stories.
Alternately, If you can give me pointers as to more specific
information that is needed to answer my question, I'll try and get the
info from them.
Brand: Northgate
Speed: DX2-66
RAM: 16MB
Chipset: OPTI
BIOS: MYLEX ISA v6.10 (a Phoenix derivative)
Video: some STB (will almost certainly have to be replaced...)
They do have a CD-ROM with which to load the OS.
Thanks a LOT,
Scott
PS - NeXTMail is hard for me to deal with, so please either post to
this group, or send me standard e-mail
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 21" Megapixel available for trade
Date: 27 Sep 1993 15:11:45 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <286vrh$5m3@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Hi,
I have a 21" color megapixel monitor that I have been trying to connect to
an NEXTSTEP/Intel system without much success. I have come to the conclusion
that I NEED a Multisync monitor!
So... I would like to trade this beautiful monitor for a comparable 20/21"
monitor that is multisync. Some specifics about the monitor:
Original make Hitachi model CM2187A3
61.5 KHz horiz x 60-68 Hz vertical frequency
.31 dot pitch, up to 1280x1024 resolution
RGB, sync on green, with a 13w3 connector
Black case, in *MINT* condition
Still has > 9 months of a 1 year warranty from Bell Atlantic
This monitor will work beautifully with a NeXTstation color. It will also
work with a Dell DGX 486/50 system. I would like to trade this with someone
in the central Ohio/Columbus area to facilitate the exchange.
I also have a custom-made 13w3->3 RGB BNC cable I can include. Please let
me know if interested. Thanks,
Varun Mitroo
mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
(614) 447-9194
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: ashley@chaz.demon.co.uk
Subject: NS/I and ISDN
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID: <CE0rB1.Ku4@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet Limited.
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 23:28:51 GMT
Hi -
I'm wondering if anybody has had any experience with NS Intel and ISDN. I've
got a Intel NS machine at work, and i'd like to have one at home. Since I've
got a spare 64k ISDN channel on a router already (at work), I'm thinking about
getting NS for home, and linking home to the network at work via ISDN.
1) Is there any ISDN hardware that NSFIP supports?
2) " " ISDN software " " ?
3) Is there any hardware NSFIP will not work with?
4) Has anybody done this?
Thanks for your help,
Charles Ashley
ashley@chaz.demon.co.uk
From: stelzer@phenxk.physics.wisc.edu (Tim Stelzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help: Slab to HP 4M connection
Keywords: Printer
Message-ID: <1993Sep27.155223.9465@cs.wisc.edu>
Date: 27 Sep 93 15:52:23 GMT
Sender: news@cs.wisc.edu (The News)
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences
Please help.
After reading good things about the HP 4M laser printer, I bought one and
hooked it up to my NeXT slab. I made the following cable
Mini Din HP DB-25
1 nc
2 4
3 3
4 7
5 2
6 5
8 20
I have tried running with both DTR and Xon flow control 9600 baud. I am
using the PPD file from sonata.cc.purdue.edu and Uptime Inc in the Demos
directory.
Basically my computer isn't talking to the printer. All self tests on the
printer work, but all tests from the computer fail (nothing happens)!
Thanks in advance
Tim
stelzer@phenok.physics.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: Q: Suggestions on this intel configuration
Message-ID: <1993Sep27.141047.21477@KYnug.org>
Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc.
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 14:10:47 GMT
I am in the process of purchasing a few intel systems and I was wondering
what anyone can tell me about GEC Computers. They are running a 1/2 page
add currently in NWM.
I am also considering the Epson boxes? Any comments? I am looking for a
high end development station w/ excellent graphic capabilities.
Here is the configuration I am looking at, maybe someone can run it
through the pro/con filter for me. Please send me any comments and/or
suggestions.
[ NOTE: ITEMS WITH 'X's NEXT TO THEM ARE THE OPTIONS I AM CONSIDERING. ]
BASE SYSTEM
x * Diamond 130 Tower 486 EISA/VL Bus MB 486 DX2/66Mhz $1140
MOTHERBOARD OPTIONS
* Nice Super 486 EISA/VL Bus MB w/256k Cache $185
Q: Should I get the motherboard option?
MEMORY
* 16Mb - (4) 4Mbx9-70 SIMM Modules $720
x * 20Mb - (4) 1Mx9 (4) 4Mx9 SIMM Modules $940
* 32Mb - (8) 4Mbx9-70 SIMM Modules $1440
CONTROLLER OPTIONS
* DPT Smart Cache Plus EISA SCSI Controller w/512k $568
* DPT 201 2B/90 EISA SCSII Controller $520
* Buslogic BT747S EISA Fast SCSII 2 Controller $445
* Adaptec 1542C ISA SCSI-2 Controller $243
x * Adaptec 2842A VL-Bus SCSI 2 Contoller $375
* Adaptec 2742A EISA SCSI-2 Contoller $395
Q: Which controller reins supreme here?
HARD DRIVE
* Micropolis 1 Gig Fast SCSI 2 HD 10ms VENDOR
VIDEO ADAPTOR OPTIONS
* Trident 1MB SVGA Video Adaptor $60
* STB Horizon VL-Bus 1MB Video Adaptor $150
* ATI VL-Bus 2MB Video Adaptor $425
* ATI EISA-Bus 2MB Video Adaptor $550
* Diamond Stealth Pro S3 1MB Vram VL-Bus $325
X * Diamond Stealth Pro S3 2MB Vram VL-Bus $395
Q: Are the new S3 drivers any good? What are the major differences in
these video contollers?
MONITOR OPTIONS
* 14" Sceptre 1024x768 .28 int $295
* 15" Sceptre 1024x768 .28 NI Digital $525
* 17" Nanao T550i 1280x1024 NI .28 $1340
* 17" Mag 17F 1280x1024 Ni .26 $1105
* 17" Sceptre 1280x1024 NI .26 $1120
X * 20" Hitachi 1280x1024NI .31 $1495
Q: Does anyone have a preference in monitors? Would you suggest Sony or
another vendor brand?
NETWORK CARDS
X * Intel EtherExpress 16 $129
* SMC Ethernet Elite $59
Q: I have heard the Intel cards are working fine. What about 3Com and
others?
MULTI-MEDIA OPTIONS
* Pro Audio 16 Sound Card $222
X * Pro Audio Studio $270
* Internal Toshiba M3401 200ms SCSI-2 $475
* External Toshiba EM3401 200ms SCSI-2 $615
Q: Do any of these work yet?
PS - Sure wish I could have just posted my Improv speadsheet. :-)
--
Neil Greene
President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
North American, TIFFany Distributor
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problem with frame buffer (NS/I)
Date: 27 Sep 1993 16:12:20 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2873d4$rfc@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
I am having a slight problem when I boot NS/I. The boot procedure reports
that it was unable to create a framebuffer (or something like that) and
I automatically get logged in as "me". When I try to log out I get
an error refering to the frame buffer once again and get logged back
in as "me". I looked at my system specs and I found that I have a VGA
with 512KB VRAM. Is this the problem?
Also, I have looked at a lot of NeXT documentation and find myself in
a slight state of confusion about the color situation. Is color
possible on the 486 platform? If so what kind of graphics adaptor do
I need (SVGA, XGA...) This is all very confusing.
-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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The Institute for the Learning Sciences | | O |
Northwestern University | (--|--)
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--------Be excellent to each other--------
From: ghunt@nmsu.edu (Gordon Stuart Hunt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Maxtor XT8760S configuration info needed
Date: 27 Sep 1993 15:08:11 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Message-ID: <286vkrINNdts@dns1.NMSU.Edu>
References: <1993Sep26.012853.6720@nic.csu.net>
Stan Osborne (stan@cs.SFSU.EDU) wrote:
: After installing a new 1.2Gb disk into a Cube as SCSI
: target 1, we can not find instructions on how to reconfigure
: the Maxtor XT8760S we removed. The Maxtor is now mounted
: in shoe box. We would like to use it as an external disk to
: copy the user data onto the new internal disk.
: How do we set the SCSI id for this device?
: Stan Osborne, Computer Science Department, SFSU
: Internet: stan@cs.sfsu.edu Voice: (415) 338-2168
Try calling Maxtor tech support at 1-800-2MAXTOR. They are pretty helpful and
can give you the info you need.
Good Luck,
Gordon
ghunt@nmsu.edu
From: gt8299c@prism.gatech.EDU (Badri Narasimhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Rebooting Problems - with NeXTStep
Message-ID: <113585@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 27 Sep 93 17:15:15 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Dear Friends:
I have NeXTStep installed on a Dell 486. Recently, I powered
down the system to shift it to another location. It is not loading
NeXTStep anymore. Instead of entering the environment, it hangs. The
following is the sequence of operations when I try to re-boot it.
1. Reading machine kernel
2. Re-booting by itself
3. Registering all drivers
4. Hangs here!!!!!!!!!!
The last message is Sep 27 .. date.. localhost reboot: complete
There was a series of
Could anybody help me out??
There was a series of power outages some weeks ago, but it
succeeded in re-booting in all instances.
Thanks in advance.
Badri
badri@gtsurya.gatech.edu
--
Badri Narasimhan
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt8299c
Internet: gt8299c@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Becki Kain <beckers@imagine.com>
Subject: ide and scsi gateway
Message-ID: <1993Sep27.154358.259@imagine.com>
Sender: beckers@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 15:43:58 GMT
anyone have any experience installing nextstep on a gateway that already
had one ide harddrive with dos on it? the problem i'm having is that i
want to put a scsi drive in the gateway as well, but i can't get fdisk to
see both drives at once. the nextstep installation consequently can't get
past the first stage because the machine boots directly into dos.
any help would be appreciated.
thanks
beckers
--
Becki Kain Imagine Multimedia NeXTmail welcome beckers@imagine.com
"words are just dust in deserts of sound" Eldritch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Becki Kain <beckers@imagine.com>
Subject: ide/scsi harddrives in same machine
Message-ID: <1993Sep27.170243.451@imagine.com>
Sender: beckers@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 17:02:43 GMT
anyone have any experience installing nextstep on an internal scsi device
while there is an existing ide dos harddrive? i can't seem to get fdisk
to see both drives at the same time, so nextstep can't finish it's
installation
thanks
beckers
--
Becki Kain Imagine Multimedia NeXTmail welcome beckers@imagine.com
"words are just dust in deserts of sound" Eldritch
From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 68040, NS 3.0, Zoom fax modem = HANGS
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 11:54:03 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <wgdkmPCSMUkHRSSK04@transarc.com>
Title says it all. If I try to "get by" by configuring a fax modem other
than the Interfax or HSD with PrintManager, I wind up with a system that
can't fax. That's not so bad. What's so bad is that as a matter of fact,
it can't *finish* the configuration within PrintManager. What I got was
a system that would not shut down or reboot without force.
If you've had any success with this combination, or even if you have
tried this combination and given up, how about mailing me your
experience? The modem in question is a "Zoom VFX v32.bis", configured
with factory settings.
--
Ward C. Travis Pittsburgh PA USA "The fact is the sweetest dream that
travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Quantum ELS170?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 27 Sep 1993 19:36:38 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA
Message-ID: <287fc6$t0b@news.intercon.com>
References: <27qah0$hpc@news.intercon.com>
: I just purchased a Quantum ELS170 from Club Mac and I can't get it to work
: on my NeXT. I can format the drive fine, but if I try to initialize it, I
: get a boatload of write errors and then it says there are no boot blocks
: available.
Thanks to those who sent me mail about this problem. It appears that the
ELS mechanism is somehow simply incompatible with the NeXT. I've got a
Fujitsu M2624 and it works great.
David.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 27 Sep 1993 16:26:40 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <287i9t$dof@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong
elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific
questions about NeXT's implementation or porting
issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups
(comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript,
comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that
may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU
Minor editing: Scott Anguish
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: My clock is running late (black hardware)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 16:30:58 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Agdoq2a00WB3Ele6F5@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1993Sep26.171919.3644@nidat.sub.org>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-Sep-93 My clock is
running late (b.. by Peter Nitezki@NiDat.sub.
> I'm running a NeXTstation 25MHz and have noticed the clock is running
> considerably late (well, at least 10 minutes a year, probably more).
>
> Is this normal behaviour or a fault?
This is more or less normal behavior for workstations.
*I* consider it a fault that my 50 dollar watch keeps substantially
better time than my 5000 dollar NeXT, but.... :-)
> Can I do anything about it?
Yes. Do a man or DL search on 'timed', 'ntpd', and related programs.
> Does anybody know whether this is a crystal or a line frequency driven
> circuit?
I seem to remember that it's a crystal clock, but I could be wrong.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 8bit color driver for S3-805 graphics card
Message-ID: <150138@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: 27 Sep 93 20:16:24 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania
Hi,
I'm considering buying a DECpc 466 to run NSI. The machine would have
the S3-805 video card, and the Hardware compatability guide says that
some driver is needed to support 8bit color on this card. Is the S3
driver available? Does it really work? If so, where do I get it?
Any help much appreciated.
Joe Panico
joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP Laserjet 4M, How well does it work?
Date: 27 Sep 1993 23:12:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <287s14$i1i@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <27qkku$g2e@news.u.washington.edu>
In article <27qkku$g2e@news.u.washington.edu> basiji@stein2.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>I'm thinking of getting a LJ4M and was wondering about
>how well it works with NS. Can I get 600 DPI out of it
>or do I have to run it in some brain damaged mode to
>get it to work at all? How about cabling? (It'll be on
>black hardware initially, later moved to white).
It works reasonably well, and its 600dpi print is great.
I have one hooked up currently via serial port from
a NeXTstation Color, and it is slow in sending big jobs
with graphics.
There are two cards that allows direct Ethernet connection fron
NeXT's to HPLJ4:
One is NetJet card from Emulex which will speak lpd/lpr protocol.
The other is the JetDirect card from HP + TCPprd driver for NeXT
from Uptime (based in Zurich).
There is one serious problem with HPLJ4_'s. It's Level-2
PostScript color space calibration is broken. So, when
you print from NeXT's anything that heavily relies on
accurate renditions of light grays, your light grays
all turn into white.
This problem actually is likely to be Adobe's bug, rather
than HP's, because it is also present in other brands
of Level-2 PS printers, including Apple's.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SIMMS for Turbo boxes?
Date: 27 Sep 1993 23:04:48 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <287rig$k6h@pith.uoregon.edu>
I'm looking at buying a 32 meg SIMM for a NeXTstation Turbo, and I need to
know exactly what I'm looking for. Information I have so far is that Mac
32-bit SIMMS for the LC III, Centris models, and Quadra 800s will work.
I need to know:
* Can I put SIMMS in one at a time? (FAQ, I know)
* What speed do I need? Can I use 70ns SIMMS?
Please e-mail me directly: jfosback@darkwing.uoregon.edu.
Thanks!
-jason
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From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Matrox GAs, 32-bit color? (was re: 3.2 video drivers)
Date: 28 Sep 1993 09:07:48 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Message-ID: <288ut4$id4@scratchy.reed.edu>
References: <glenCE1MFD.AIq@netcom.com>
Keywords: matrox 32-bit color NS/I graphics
In article <glenCE1MFD.AIq@netcom.com> glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
writes:
> Does anyone know the diamond Viper VL will be supported in 3.2? or
> the Herculies Graphite??
In the same vein, are there plans for support of the Matrox graphics adapters?
A 64-bit Matrox MGA graphics card on 64-bit PCI bus to a Pentium would make an
excellent graphics system (though I'm not too sure what the DMA status would be
on such a setup) [this setup isn't available at the moment, but is expected in
the near future {Q4}]. The Matrox cards are roughly twice as fast as the Weitek
Power 9000 chipset (the fastest standard accelerator, which the Diamond Viper
uses). They can also hold up to 8 MB of VRAM (depending on the model).
Has a 32-bit graphics (24-bit color plus 8-bits of alpha) setup been worked
out yet? The hardware guide mentions this a future item, but I haven't heard
anything about it. With S3 928 chipset support (which was recently released),
they have an acceptable accelerator, though the Matrox cards are far better.
--
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NeXTSTEP developer, Metaresearch Inc. rseymour@metaresearch.com
Artificial Life Project (NeXTmail Accepted at Both)
Philosophy & Economics, Reed College Portland, Oregon
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Setting the resolution on a VGA monitor
Date: 28 Sep 1993 14:07:14 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <289gei$5uv@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
OK! Since I received such awesome help on my last problem... the new
one proves to be difficult.
It is not really a problem just a preference. I would like to change the
resolution on my monitor. I have installed NS/I with a VGA monitor. I
have checked the manual for the monitor which proceeded to tell me about
all of the different modes the current configuration (512k VRAM) would
support. The manual then proceeded to tell me about how one would go
about setting these different modes... DOS utilities. I have checked the
NeXTStep documentation which I have and found nothing about changing
resolution modes.
Any clues?
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: 8bit color driver for S3-805 graphics card
Message-ID: <1993Sep28.131433.29896@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
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References: <150138@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 13:14:33 GMT
In article <150138@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
(Joe Panico) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I'm considering buying a DECpc 466 to run NSI. The machine would
have
> the S3-805 video card, and the Hardware compatability guide says
that
> some driver is needed to support 8bit color on this card.
According to the "readme" file that comes with the new driver, the
S3-805 with 1 meg of vram support 8 bit grey scale, not color.
>Is the S3
> driver available?
Yes.
>Does it really work?
I'm confident it works with the hardware NeXT lists in the readme
file. I'm in the process of testing off the shelf S3-928 cards in
hardware that *is not* *yet* listed in the readme file, to
see what other options we have... I expect an eval unit today or
tomorrow.
>If so, where do I get it?
I got my copy of the driver, by anonymous ftp, from ftp.next.com.
> Any help much appreciated.
Joe, I have sent you e-mail with some additional information.
With all best wishes,
Phil
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: How do you use a NeXT monochrome monitor on a PC?
Message-ID: <CDzqoB.yn@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <27t4dg$h2g@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 02:24:11 GMT
In article <27t4dg$h2g@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> jdawson@oceania.com (John Dawson)
writes:
#Recently, I think somebody posted some combination of cabling
#and video adaptors that enables you to use a NeXT monochrome
#monitor with a PC. I checked the FAQ, and I didn't find
#anything about this. Can somebody repost this?
You can possibly use the color monitor but the mono monitor
is an absolute no go with a PC. If you have one you want to
use on a PC, sell it.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Mitec Monitors
Message-ID: <CDzqtB.zE@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Sep23.220644.2451@il.us.swissbank.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 02:27:11 GMT
In article <1993Sep23.220644.2451@il.us.swissbank.com>
tmeyer@black_stone_ranger (Tom Meyer) writes:
#Has anyone out there had experience with 'Mitac' monitors?? Good, bad or
#otherwise, please e-mail me! I'm considering it for my soon-to-be
#purchased NeXTStep pc. Should I pay a little extra for a Sony or NEC ?
#
The MITAC that I have seen looks to be Toshiba made in the
17" version. I was at Price Club and saw the Toshiba and
wound up at Fry's a little while later and they had the
*EXACT* same monitor labeled as a MITAC.
It doesn't look badd, but it ain't no SONY or NEC.
But it also doesn't carry the price of a SONY or NEC.
The MITAC costs about $499 around Sunnyvale.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Digital audio interface to DSP
Message-ID: <CDzr3C.107@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <ogcbl0y00iUyQFikZh@andrew.cmu.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1993 02:33:11 GMT
In article <ogcbl0y00iUyQFikZh@andrew.cmu.edu> Martin David Frankel
<mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
#Hi!
#
#I am curious whether anyone would be interested in purchasing a device
#to convert digital audio from a CD player's digital outputs to the
#NeXT's DSP format, for recording through the DSP port. This would allow
#you to record digital audio from a CD player or DAT deck, at any
#sampling rate from 32 to 50kHz. The basic concept would be a little box
#with a cable to the DSP port and a jack for a fiber optic or coaxial
#digital cable. The cost would be somewhere around $100. I'm not sure
#if such a device already exists commercially.
There are a couple of devices that exist.
#
#I've just worked out the design for this and am in the initial stages of
#prototyping it. It is based on the Crystal Semiconductor CS8412. This
#was initially intended as just for my own use, but I realized that other
#people might be interested in it as well.
I had a couple of people interested when I posted the saem question about 1.5
years ago. The problem I had was it was very difficult to get my schematic
in a postscript form.
Anyway if you can provide them at that price, cool. The nearest price
competitor is 3x the cost.
Anyway a device based on the Crystal parts works very well. I have a
prototype and I also built one for a friend.
Kent
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From: schiers@toppoint.de (Carsten Schiers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HiColor on NS/I with ATI GUP VLB - possible?
Date: 27 Sep 1993 22:39:09 +0200
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <287j1d$o89@worf.toppoint.de>
Hi there,
I asked this question already to some people, but I am not sure whether
I was able to tell them what I mean.
Asume, I would have NS/I 3.1 with my 486DX2-66/16MB/650MB/ATI GUP VLB. I
read that I can use the 1024x768x16 mode with this card. Asume further, I
want to display rendered images that I calculated with a program of my own.
I am able to produce any color resolution you want.
With Windows, I would render them with 3x8 (RGB) and display them either at
800x600x24, where I see the full color resolution, or 1024x768x16, where
Windows sets the colors, I asume by clipping off the bits we don't have
in the 16 bit mode. This results in photorealistic images, which only look
different when you produce very smooth gradients.
I learned that NeXTStep uses either a 16 bit (12+4) or 32 bit (24+8) model
with a transparency channel. People did tell me, that then my RGB images
must be dithered, resulting in images that look not like the ones I would
display with Windows.
Is this the truth? And when so, why?
CU Carsten.
--
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Lerchenfeld 9
22081 Hamburg
From: Ian_Stewart@next.com (Ian Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: S3-928 on DEC MTE - Does the driver work?
Date: 24 Sep 1993 19:42:42 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27viji$brs@rosie.next.com>
References: <bbrown.93Sep216840@ganesha>
The HWG was made available the day the S3 driver was available. Therefore
the "req." was not replaced by "avail". The S3 driver available on the net
today (Fri Sep 24, 1993) is capable of running the MTE at 1280x1024 with
4MB VRAM using DEC's S3-928 card.
Ian H. Stewart
NeXT - IHVT/DP
PS If anyone gets any of the S3 based cards (like the Miro or Mateus(?))
to work, please email me and we will do further testing and possibly add
it to the HWG.
--
Information above is deemed reliable but is not guaranteed.
(happy legal?)
A white tiger, some drinks, my ship and NS!
In article <bbrown.93Sep216840@ganesha> bbrown@ganesha writes:
> Hi,
> I wish to clear up a couple of inacuuracies.
>
> >> I have seen some discussion about the S3-928 video card shipped with
> >> the DEC MTE systems. I currently have a DEC MTE sitting beside me,
> >> without a video card, The discussion seemed to imply that the S3-928
> >> will currently support 1280x1024x16-bit, or at least 1024x768.
> >> However the latest edition of the compatibility guide says "Driver
> >> update required". Can someone please definitively tell me whether the
> >> S3-928 from DEC will or will not work with the drivers currently
> >> available, either at 1024x768 or at 1280x1024.
>
> >"Driver update required" means there is a driver available that is
newer
> >than what came with NS/Intel-3.1 itself.
>
<munch>
From: Ian_Stewart@next.com (Ian Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: S3-928 on DEC MTE - Does the driver work?
Date: 24 Sep 1993 19:42:16 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <27viio$brr@rosie.next.com>
References: <bbrown.93Sep216840@ganesha>
The HWG was made available the day the S3 driver was available. Therefore
the "req." was not replaced by "avail". The S3 driver available on the net
today (Fri Sep 24, 1993) is capable of running the MTE at 1280x1024 with
4MB VRAM using DEC's S3-928 card.
Ian H. Stewart
NeXT - IHVT/DP
PS If anyone gets any of the S3 based cards (like the Miro or Mateus(?))
to work, please email me and we will do further testing and possibly add
it to the HWG.
--
Information above is deemed reliable but is not guaranteed.
(happy legal?)
A white tiger, some drinks, my ship and NS!
In article <bbrown.93Sep216840@ganesha> bbrown@ganesha writes:
> Hi,
> I wish to clear up a couple of inacuuracies.
>
> >> I have seen some discussion about the S3-928 video card shipped with
> >> the DEC MTE systems. I currently have a DEC MTE sitting beside me,
> >> without a video card, The discussion seemed to imply that the S3-928
> >> will currently support 1280x1024x16-bit, or at least 1024x768.
> >> However the latest edition of the compatibility guide says "Driver
> >> update required". Can someone please definitively tell me whether the
> >> S3-928 from DEC will or will not work with the drivers currently
> >> available, either at 1024x768 or at 1280x1024.
>
> >"Driver update required" means there is a driver available that is
newer
> >than what came with NS/Intel-3.1 itself.
>
<munch>
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Ultra Pro & Adaptec?
Date: 28 Sep 1993 17:05:30 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <289qsq$t6s@morrow.stanford.edu>
I've a DEC 466st EISA machine that I was able to get up and running NeXTSTEP on
using the video board supplied by DEC in VGA mode and substituting an Adaptec
1540 for the 1740 that it came with. That worked great.
But when I substituted a 'blessed' ATI Ultra Pro board (EISA version) with 2MB
RAM, to get higher resolution color, problems started occuring with the disk to
the point that the machine wouldn't boot. I've repeated this scenario a few
times (after reformating and reloading from scratch) and get the same result.
I assume the problem is with the configuration of the ATI card but the NeXT
documentation for it says nothing about configuration and 'it just works'.
Anyone know what's going on and what I can do about it? -- Thanks!
- Christopher
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From: ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque)
Subject: Re: Cube
Message-ID: <1993Sep22.132307.2253@cubx.com>
Sender: news@cubx.com
Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
References: <1993Sep22.002656.3821@antigone.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 13:23:07 GMT
In article <1993Sep22.002656.3821@antigone.com> mross@antigone.com writes:
> shukin@skyfox wrote:
> : I am wondering if
>
> I often wonder that myself.... :)
> --
> Michael Ross
> Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
> e-mail: mross@antigone.com
> FAX: +1 415 431 3650
once I met a guy that found an answer to that problematic question... ;)
Ed.
--
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Cub'x Systemes only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease...
ed@cubx.com It all started 2 full back-up ago...
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From: monheit@decatur.stanford.edu (Mark Monheit)
Subject: Re: 8bit color driver for S3-805 graphics card
In-Reply-To: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU's message of Tue, 28 Sep 1993 13:14:33 GMT
Message-ID: <MONHEIT.93Sep28123228@decatur.stanford.edu>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Psychology Department, Stanford U.
References: <150138@netnews.upenn.edu> <1993Sep28.131433.29896@Princeton.EDU>
Date: 28 Sep 93 12:32:28
A note of caution to those who plan to get a DEC-PC466MTE with S3-928:
A friend just got such a system (2MB VRAM) and attempted to install
the new drivers from NeXTanswers...no dice. The video does not work
at all. We tentatively believe that the problem is that DEC shipped
the system with a Diamond Stealth S3-928 board, rather than the
Digital board (for which the driver appears to be intended).
The NeXTanswer concerning the S3 drivers was recently modified with a
line to the effect that 3rd party S3 boards were not yet supported.
DEC appears to have very little knowledge of NS/FIP, so I would be
very careful when ordering a video subsystem to get something that
will work.
When I am able to verify that this was the problem, I'll post again.
(If anyone else knows the scoop, please let me know.)
--mark
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HiColor on NS/I with ATI GUP VLB - possible?
Date: 28 Sep 1993 19:54:26 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Message-ID: <28a4pi$egt@scratchy.reed.edu>
References: <287j1d$o89@worf.toppoint.de>
In article <287j1d$o89@worf.toppoint.de> schiers@toppoint.de (Carsten Schiers)
writes:
> With Windows, I would render them with 3x8 (RGB) and display them either at
> 800x600x24, where I see the full color resolution, or 1024x768x16, where
> Windows sets the colors, I asume by clipping off the bits we don't have
> in the 16 bit mode. This results in photorealistic images, which only look
> different when you produce very smooth gradients.
Most people can percieve somewhere in the neighborhood of 18-bits, so 16-bits
(c. 16k colors) will appear gradiated only when a series of very close colors
are viewed. 24-bits (16.7 million colors) will show no such gradiation.
> I learned that NeXTStep uses either a 16 bit (12+4) or 32 bit (24+8) model
> with a transparency channel. People did tell me, that then my RGB images
> must be dithered, resulting in images that look not like the ones I would
> display with Windows.
> Is this the truth? And when so, why?
Standard NeXT color scheme is 12-bits of color for 4,096 colors and 4-bits
alpha channel. At twelve bits, gradiation is noticible in general, though it
isn't too terrible. The extended NeXT color paradigm is for 24-bits of color
and an 8-bit alpha channel. The 32 bit color system is currently available only
on the NeXTdimension systems (a NeXTcube with NeXTdimension graphics adapter),
though the hardware guide mentions it as a [possible/probable] future item for
NS/I.
If you display colors at 12-bits without dithering, the change in colors is
fairly stark. Adding dithering improves the image, though the changes are still
noticable. NeXT supports automatic dithering of 32-bit (24-bit color) images
down to 16-bits (12-bit color) for use on NeXTSTEP systems (I think this is the
case on NS/I, but you should verify this yourself). This is your best available
quality at the moment (or you could use your own dithering algorithm(s) to
create native 16-bit [12-bit color] images).
Hopefully NeXT will support 32-bit color on NS/I (the Matrox MGA or S3-928 GAs
would be nice for this) very soon. I have not heard official word from NeXT
about this, but perhaps someone else may be able to comment. Unfortunately, I
suspect that this is a low priority item for NeXT, and will be on the back
burner for some time (fiscal matters and increasing the installed base are
certainly more important).
--
Robert Seymour rseymour@reed.edu
NeXTSTEP developer, Metaresearch Inc. rseymour@metaresearch.com
Artificial Life Project (NeXTmail Accepted at Both)
Philosophy & Economics, Reed College Portland, Oregon
From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 68040, NS 3.0, Zoom fax modem = HANGS
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 14:50:44 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8ge8S4WSMUkH82BXt=@transarc.com>
References: <wgdkmPCSMUkHRSSK04@transarc.com>
In-Reply-To: <wgdkmPCSMUkHRSSK04@transarc.com>
Since my original post about the Zoom VFX modem, I have found that the
NXFax product seems to supoprt it pretty nicely. I'm running the demo
just for evaluation, but it works great.
--
Ward C. Travis Pittsburgh PA USA "The fact is the sweetest dream that
travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
From: cfa0802@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU (Colin Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 030 Cube
Date: 28 Sep 1993 15:22:25 -0500
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Message-ID: <28a6e1$ec4@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU>
I have an opportunity to pick up an old floppy only 030 cube.
Any ideas what it is worth?
Thanks.
--
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Department of Philosophy colin@snaefell.tamu.edu
Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843-4237 (409) 845-3606
From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: repost: FIP installation problem on ALR Evolution
Date: 28 Sep 1993 21:10:27 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28a983$56a@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Help!
Recently, the following problem was posted to the list.
Well, I have exactly the same problem. I am contacting
the poster, of course, but I would like to hear anything
else somebody might know about it. Any help is highly
appreciated.
Beginning of post
From: rling@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Ling)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: FIP installation problem.
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
I'm trying to install NS/FIP on an ALR Evolution-V (Pentium) with
an IDE hard disk using an Adaptec 1542C and a NeXT CD-ROM drive.
The Adaptec is configured as suggested by the NeXTanswers document.
The hard disk is partitioned into a primary DOS partition and an
extended partition. The optical disk works fine under DOS.
The installation boot process goes fine until it resets the SCSI bus,
registers the CD-ROM as sd0a and a bunch of SCSI related devices, and
then resets the SCSI bus again. It then hangs there at the second SCSI
bus reset.
Can someone tell me what the next thing the installation boot process
does? I'd like to find out if it is the SCSI that's causing the problem
or the "next" item in the boot sequence.
Any other suggestions and comments on the possible problem are also
welcomed.
End of post
Thank you very much,
Andreas Windemuth
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I'm trying to install NS/FIP on an ALR Evolution-V (Pentium) with
an IDE hard disk using an Adaptec 1542C and a NeXT CD-ROM drive.
The Adaptec is configured as suggested by the NeXTanswers document.
The hard disk is partitioned into a primary DOS partition and an
extended partition. The optical disk works fine under DOS.
The installation boot process goes fine until it resets the SCSI bus,
registers the CD-ROM as sd0a and a bunch of SCSI related devices, and
then resets the SCSI bus again. It then hangs there at the second SCSI
bus reset.
Can someone tell me what the next thing the installation boot process
does? I'd like to find out if it is the SCSI that's causing the problem
or the "next" item in the boot sequence.
Any other suggestions and comments on the possible problem are also
welcomed.
End of post
Thank you very much,
Andreas Windemuth
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From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Subject: Request: CD ROM Drive recommendations
Message-ID: <1993Sep28.204933.957@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 20:49:33 GMT
Would someone kindly recommend a CD-ROM drive for use with my NeXTstation?
Must have:
* SCSI Interface.
* Multi-session Photo CD capable
* High Sierra, ISO 9660, etc...
* Music CD capable with Stereo RCA Outputs, volume control.
* Known to work with PhotoAlbum.app and CDPlayer.app, etc...
* Best-Buy price point.
Please reply by e-mail. I'll summarize.
Thanks.
brad.
--
Bradley Head
Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail accepted)
604 872-7116 fax: 604 872-7125
From: max@Kolmogorov.gac.edu (Max Hailperin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Quantum ELS170?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 28 Sep 93 16:42:59
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, MN
Message-ID: <MAX.93Sep28164259@Kolmogorov.gac.edu>
References: <27qah0$hpc@news.intercon.com> <287fc6$t0b@news.intercon.com>
In-reply-to: disc@vector.intercon.com's message of 27 Sep 1993 19:36:38 GMT
In article <287fc6$t0b@news.intercon.com> disc@vector.intercon.com
(David Casti) writes:
: I just purchased a Quantum ELS170 from Club Mac and I can't get it to work
: on my NeXT. I can format the drive fine, but if I try to initialize it, I
: get a boatload of write errors and then it says there are no boot blocks
: available.
Thanks to those who sent me mail about this problem. It appears that the
ELS mechanism is somehow simply incompatible with the NeXT. ...
This is *very* odd, because I just yesterday installed two ELS170s,
one in a slab and one in a cube, and both are working fine. I'd love
to know what the difference is that makes them work for me and not for
other people. All I did was change the SCSI address jumpers (in one
case I actually left it at target 6), attach cables and screw in
place, use disk to initialize the disk with a boot-block and
file system, and then use restore (and mkfile) to put the stuff I
wanted into that file system.
One possible source of difference I may detect is that you say "I can
format the drive fine, but if I try to initialize it, ...". This
sounds like you started by doing a low-level format, as in disk's
Format command or the sdform program it runs. I didn't do that (it
shouldn't normally be necessary -- SCSI disks come pre-formated at
this level). My guess is that the format was done wrong (by sdform, I
don't mean by operator error), and so an incorrect format blew away
the correct one.
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From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt)
Subject: Any interest in 68040 accelerators?
Message-ID: <1993Sep28.211002.3576@drefla.mese.com>
Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com
Organization: Applied Engineering
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1993 21:10:02 GMT
Is there any interest out there in a Nitro style 68040 accelerator? Something
like a 40Mhz 68040 with a 128K cache? This would provide a pretty nice boost
for the 25Mhz slabs out there but probably not quite so much for Turbo slabs.
The reason I am posing this question is that the first samples of the 68060
won't be available until February of next year and the product probably
couldn't ship until about June. The 68040 could be done now and might ship
before the end of the year. The price would be about $1300. You could probably
expect this board to provide about 1.8X a 25Mhz slab or about 1.4X a turbo
slab.
Send me mail if you are interested. The 68060 response has been fantastic but 9
months seems a long time to wait for something like this.
matt
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From: skim@turtle.mrj.com (Stan Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSFIP and High-Res Mono
Date: 28 Sep 1993 22:57:08 -0400
Organization: MRJ, Inc./Oakton, Virginia, USA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <28ati4$6f2@turtle.mrj.com>
I am having a problem running NSFIP at 1024x768
resolution (2-bit mono). My monitor is a NEC4FGe
MultiSync and my video card is an ET4000AX based
adaptor with 1 MEG RAM and can refresh at 72 Hz.
The image is clear but there is a lot of flickering.
Does anyone know what the problem is? Has anyone
had success with 2-bit mono at 1024x768? If so,
please e-mail me your monitor and video card
combinations. Thanks!!
Stan
skim@mrj.com
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From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Subject: What speeds relative to the turbo is a S3-928 with PCI
Message-ID: <CE3ILx.Mv4@unix.portal.com>
Keywords: PCI, S3-928, Fastest Gun
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 03:20:18 GMT
For all of us considering upgrading to PCI and the S-3 928,
what kind of performance are any of you getting with this
combination. Please list the brand of graphics adapter.
I'm trying to figure out if it's worth upgrading to color.
Currently, I'm using an Et4000 (mono).
Brad Wright
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From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Are you using any of: DELL, Epson, Intel, Data General with NS?
Message-ID: <thompsonCE3JpM.Jw8@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 03:44:09 GMT
The company I work for is considering purchasing NEXTSTEP workstations.
The four that are currently under consideration are the Data General,
Epson, Intel, and Dell 486 machines .. basically the configurations
that were listed in the NeXTWORLD developer machine review. (If there
is another better machine out there, we're open to it.)
Basically, if you are USING any of these, I would like to know what
you think. Are any of them really awful at anything? Are any of them
awesome? Why?
Like everyone, we're trying to get the best performance for the money,
and considering that we're not developers I would tend to lean toward
fast video and lots of RAM. If you have any suggestions or comments
regarding Intel-based machines you have, I would be glad to hear it.
Thanks! -- and I will summarize.
Eric Thompson
thompson@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Will NS ever support 5-1/4" floppy drives?
Message-ID: <thompsonCE3Ju0.KAJ@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 03:46:47 GMT
I understand that NS only supports a single 3.5" drive (like the
original slabs).. does anyone know if it will ever support (a) 5-1/4"
floppy drives, or (b) multiple floppies?
Somewhat related: are there any Intel-based workstations that have
floppy auto-mounting in NS/Intel (like the original slabs) or do
you always have to Check for Floppy? Just wondering.
thanks,
Eric Thompson
thompson@netcom.com
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Minimum Gateway configuration
Message-ID: <1993Sep29.060925.27260@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 06:09:25 GMT
A friend of mine just joined an international organization and got
stuck using an old 386 2/40 (yes, they still exist). Now they're
getting Gateway 486s to replace them. She's trying to see if she can
slip NeXTSTEP in under the door by getting a sufficiently
well-equipped 486. I've looked through all the Gateway-related items
that hadn't yet expired at my site, but still need urgent answers to
the following questions:
1. What is the MINIMUM configuration Gateway system that will run
NeXTSTEP adequately? (ie needing only incremental improvements like
adding more RAM, as opposed to having to change graphics cards, say).
2. Can one configure such a system to run in 2bit or 8bit grayscale?
(the hw compatibility guide only talks of 16bit color for the
Gateways).
3. How hard is installation for relatively inexperienced people? Can
one even get NS pre-installed on Gateways? (one problem is this
organization is abroad, in a place where support it scarce.)
Many thanks in advance for all help. E-Mail is fine, and I will
summarize responses to the net.
--
-
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spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
Subject: Longest NeXT Laser Printer Cable
Message-ID: <1993Sep29.032602.7487@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 03:26:02 GMT
Is it possible to get a longer NeXT laser printer cable? I'm sure
this is in a FAQ but I can't find it. How long is the standard cable
and how long is the extended one (if it's possible)?
Thanks,
Robert
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From: Neil Greene <neil@bMD.com>
Subject: Q: Adaptec SMARTcache III....
Message-ID: <1993Sep29.001026.25412@bMD.com>
Sender: neil@bMD.com
Organization: benchMark Developments, Inc. (Lex, KY)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 00:10:26 GMT
I am considering the purchase of an Adaptec SMARTcache III EISA/SCSI
Controller and I was wondering if anyone on the net could tell me if the
32 bit version card works well, and if so, what type of performance are
they getting.
From: mv@cs.tu-berlin.de (Martin Vetter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP Laserjet 4M and Ethernet (was: How well does it work?)
Date: 29 Sep 1993 10:25:45 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <28bnr9$nv3@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Summary: HP Laserjet 4m connected to NeXTstation color over Ethernet
Keywords: HP Laserjet 4m Ethernet
Hello NeXT users!
Now I have connected my new HP Laserjet 4M to my color slab
using a serial cable. Many thanks to the nice people out there
which helped me getting it connected. I like the HP's 600 dpi
output a lot, but it's not as fast as I would like it to be :-(
So lets try an Ethernet connection ;-)
In his article <Re: HP Laserjet 4M, How well does it work?>
Izumi Ohzawa writes:
> There are two cards that allows direct Ethernet connection fron
> NeXT's to HPLJ4:
> One is NetJet card from Emulex which will speak lpd/lpr protocol.
> The other is the JetDirect card from HP + TCPprd driver for NeXT
> from Uptime (based in Zurich).
Are these two the only Ethernet interface cards for the
HP Laserjet 4M available? What are the Pro's and Con's in
choosing one of them?
Martin Vetter <mv@cs.tu-berlin.de>
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From: amon@lix.polytechnique.fr (Laurent Amon)
Subject: SupraFax Modem question
Message-ID: <amon.749295998@mallorne.polytechnique.fr>
Keywords: Cabling, Hardware Flow Control
Sender: news@polytechnique.fr (USENET News System)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique, Palaiseau, France
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 09:46:38 GMT
Hi folks,
I just got a SupraFax 144 Modem and I have a question for you. I bought it
as a if it were for a Mac so I got a MiniDin8-t0-DB25 cable, supposedly
cabled for hardware flow control. Is that cable OK for use on a NeXT
or should I make another, and if I need to, could you send me the
cabling specifications?
While reading the manual I saw a special AT command (%F, I think) that
might have bearing on this. There seems to be a special mode for Macs
concerning HW flow control wiring, but the documentation is explicit.
Finally, could you give me your S-registers settings if you have one
on a NeXTstation at hand?
Thank you very much,
Lga.
PS: Could you send me a copy of any followup you make by mail? I'm changing
jobs and news reading might be somewhat difficult for me for the next month
or so. Thanks again.
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 030 Cube
Date: 29 Sep 1993 13:24:33 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <28c2ah$cl8@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU>
References: <28a6e1$ec4@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU>
In article <28a6e1$ec4@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> cfa0802@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU (Colin Allen)
writes:
> I have an opportunity to pick up an old floppy only 030 cube.
> Any ideas what it is worth?
> Thanks.
By "floppy", I intended those in the know to read "floptical",
so please, no more lectures on the history of NeXT hardware
technology ;-)
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From: disc@vector.intercon.com (David Casti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Quantum ELS170?
Date: 29 Sep 1993 13:43:55 GMT
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation, Herndon, VA, USA
Message-ID: <28c3er$p0o@news.intercon.com>
References: <27qah0$hpc@news.intercon.com> <287fc6$t0b@news.intercon.com> <MAX.93Sep28164259@Kolmogorov.gac.edu>
Hi Max,
Max Hailperin (max@Kolmogorov.gac.edu) wrote:
: This is *very* odd, because I just yesterday installed two ELS170s,
: one in a slab and one in a cube, and both are working fine. I'd love
: to know what the difference is that makes them work for me and not for
: other people.
Yeah; that would be worthwhile to know. I got mail from several people
with the problem, and there are a few messages in the next-managers
archive about it too.
: One possible source of difference I may detect is that you say "I can
: format the drive fine, but if I try to initialize it, ...". This
: sounds like you started by doing a low-level format, as in disk's
: Format command or the sdform program it runs. I didn't do that (it
: shouldn't normally be necessary -- SCSI disks come pre-formated at
: this level). My guess is that the format was done wrong (by sdform, I
: don't mean by operator error), and so an incorrect format blew away
: the correct one.
Interesting speculation. Actually, I tried many *many* permutations,
including the disk and sdform commands, as well as formatting the drive on
my Mac to get it back to a "ground state". I even tried using it as a Mac
disk, since NextStep 3.1 doesn't seem to have any problem with attaching Mac
SCSI filesystems.
The result was always the same: no superblocks could be found on the disk,
the boot blocks at 32 and 96 couldn't be written, and the console had
about 20 write errors in the log...
David.
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Ethernet Adapters
Date: 29 Sep 1993 14:27:02 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28c5vm$egu@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
I am trying to get NS/I to work with Artisoft's AE-2 (or AE-2/T) Ethernet
adapter. Is there a driver available for this adapter?
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From: jlf@alf.dec.com (Jeff Finkelstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: installation problems - intr dropped IRQ
Date: 29 Sep 1993 14:31:32 GMT
Organization: digital equipment corporation
Sender: jlf@ryhope (Jeff Finkelstein)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28c684$97r@netnews.alf.dec.com>
Has anyone seen problems like this?
I have been trying to install NS/FIS on a 433dx with 16MB of memory and a S3-924
video (with 1MB of VRAM). During the disk formatting I get
intr: dropped IRQ 7
a few times, but it proceeds. While the file copying is going on, when it gets
to around 30% it aborts with a
installation failed: try again later with builddisk (or something like that msg)
of course, when I try later it dies at the same point. I have used different
SCSI cables, SCSI disks and the such but always have the same problem.
The exact configuration is:
Digital PC 433dxlp
16 MB memory
1 MB VRAM (S3-924 controller)
ADAPTEC 1540B
426MB SCSI Disk (Digital RZ25)
16" SVGA monitor
PS/2 mouse
Any and all ideas are most welcome. I am pretty frustrated at this point.
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jlf@alf.dec.com | knowledge."
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Q: Booting the CPU in a cube from a different slot?
Message-ID: <CE3LyA.1q4@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Sep26.173623.13992@cs.wisc.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 04:32:34 GMT
In article <1993Sep26.173623.13992@cs.wisc.edu> bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu
(Gareth Bestor) writes:
#Does anyone have any idea why I can't get an 030 CPU board to
#boot up in a cube from a slot other than #0?
#
#I want to get the 030 running with an 040 to do background
#rendering and don't want to try Felix Lugo's approach of
#re-numbering the backplane slots. This might risk blowing
#drivers on the 040 board because the slot pins are used to
#generate system-wide unique memory addresses (at least that's
#the impression I get from reading the online documentation
#"Operating Systems, Part 2: Writing Loadble Kernel Servers,
#Section 7: NeXTbus").
You can modify the back plane with no problems.
To use both you will *HAVE* to either modify the
'030 or the backplane. I have done the backplane mod and it's
not a big deal. It also doesn't blow any drivers.
#
#The 030 board doesn't have an NBIC. The board comes up fine
#if I plug in into a different slot (say #4) and the ROM
#monitor correctly detects which slot it is in and doesn't
#complain. However, if I actually try and boot up from either
#the SCSI disk or OD, the drive chugs away for a couple of
#seconds and then the boot process hangs. Pressing
#Command-Command-~ to get back to the ROM fails and I have to
#pull the plug :-( Why would booting from a SCSI drive be
#affected by the slot number of the CPU ?!?! The online
#documentation makes several references to multiple CPU's in
#different slots, so I don't see why this is a problem. Any
#ideas? Any NeXTbus expects out there? Do I need an NBIC chip
#(where can I get these now)?
The board is wired only to boot when it sees the slot it is residing
in as slot #0. This means modifying the board or backplane.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTcube '040 and Opcode MIDI Translator II Inteface?
Message-ID: <CE3LI3.1oK@infoserv.com>
Date: 29 Sep 93 04:22:51 GMT
References: <280a8u$7nk@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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In article <280a8u$7nk@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex
Currier) writes:
#
#I was told this combination would work (NeXTcube '040 and Opcode MIDI
#Translator II Inteface) but upon taking it home I get input to the NeXT but no
#output. I'm running a demo of Presto v0.9.6b and can get neither pass through
#or playback of MIDI data.
#
#Do I need a special cable (if so, which lines need to be connected where?) or
Yep. You need a special cable.
I don't have the pinouts anymore but I have made the cable.
I can post the pinouts when I get my interface back from a
friend that I let borrow it.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Will a color 17" MegaPixel work on a Mac?
Message-ID: <CE3Lrn.1pB@infoserv.com>
Date: 29 Sep 93 04:28:35 GMT
References: <1993Sep26.024135.5675@antigone.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Distribution: na
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
In article <1993Sep26.024135.5675@antigone.com> mross@antigone.com writes:
#
#I have acquired a 17" color MegaPixel (Philips) and wondered if any cards for
the
#Macintosh will drive it. If so, what cable will fit the weird plug in the back
of
#the monitor? (It provides power as well, right?)
#
#Thanks.
It will work, but I'm not sure what cards will drive it.
I have seen a couple of 24 bit cards drive the monitor.
One of them was by SuperMac, I think.
The cable is actually a prett standard cable.
You can pick it up at Fry's Electronics in Sunnyvale,
Fremont or Palo Alto (I see you are in SF.).
Two wires will be swapped on the Mac the blue and red pins will be reversed so
you will have to correct this with an adapter or open up the 15 pin
connector and hack the two wires.
The plug does not supply power. The monitor takes an industry standard
computer type power cord.
Kent
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From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New ATI drivers
Date: 29 Sep 1993 15:42:32 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Message-ID: <28cad8$cip@fermat.mayo.edu>
For those of you who haven't grabbed it yet, you may want to get the new
ATI driver off ftp.next.com. I'm currently running my Intel GX/P in the
new 1120 x 832 8 bit grey scale mode. Since most folks probably haven't
seen NEXTSTEP in 8 bit grey scale, I recommend giving it a go. The extra
real-estate is nice, and the loss of color isn't that bad. It seems to be
a really nice compromise between the aesthetics of color, and the low eye
strain of the old 2 bit mono systems (anybody have some nice Ansel Adams
tiffs they're willing to share?)
The new driver also supports a 1280 x 1024 grey scale mode for the ATI,
although my monitor (an Ikegami C/T 20D) wasn't very happy trying to sync
up with the signal.
--
Ray Ghanbari
Mayo Foundation
ray@mayo.edu
From: pedja@midgard.cs.umd.edu (Pedja Bogdanovich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP installation problem
Date: 29 Sep 93 12:16:26
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <PEDJA.93Sep29121626@midgard.cs.umd.edu>
I am trying to install NS on an Intel system with DPT 2022 SCSI card.
The card is set up according to the NeXT's specs for DPT 2012.
It is a SIS Chipset motherboard with 486/66 VESA/EISA.
The system starts booting of the NeXT floppy and eventually I get:
------------------------------------------------------------------
...
Resetting SCSI Bus...
EATA controller at irq 15
Registering: sc0
Kernel Trap
unexpected kernel trap d eip 102840
Raise RDP exception 2 code d subcode 2120000
Waiting for RDP connection (type 'c' to continue)
------------------------------------------------------------------
Does anoyone know what the problem might be? The only cards on the
motherboard are DPT, ATI UltraPro/VLB, and a floppy controller card w/
serial/parallel ports.
Thanks for your help. Pedja (pedja@umiacs.umd.edu)
From: Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM (Conrad Geiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New ATI Drivers for NEXTSTEP Available Now via FTP and Email
Date: 29 Sep 1993 12:27:31 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9309291715.AA01395@seawolf.next.com>
Updated set of NEXTSTEP drivers for the ATI Graphics card now
available:
These NEXTSTEP drivers are used by the following displays:
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro - EISA
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro - VESA
Intel GX/Professional
Data General Dasher
AST Premmia 4D
The set is available via ftp.next.com in the following directories:
ftp.next.com:/pub/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/1340.compressed
ftp.next.com:/pub/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/1341.compressed
and via the Nextanswers mail server (email) by sending mail to
the following address:
"Nextanswers@next.com"
with "Subject: 1340 1341"
to receive an index of all available Nextanswer files send mail to
"Nextanswers@next.com"
with "Subject: index help"
From the document:
ATIDriver.ReadMe.rtf, Update 1, 09-27-93
_______________________________________________________________
Installing Update 1 of the ATI Display Adapter Device Driver for
NEXTSTEP Release 3.1 for Intel Processors
These instructions show you how to install the updated device
driver for the ATI display adapter on an Intel-based computer
running NEXTSTEPi Release 3.1. The driver is distributed in an
Installer package file named ATIDriver.pkg.
ATI 68800 Display Adapters
The ATI display adapter device driver lets you take advantage of
the following display adapters and display modes:
** SYSTEM **
ATI Graphics
Ultra Pro - EISA
with either an ATI68875
or TI 34075 RAMDAC
8-bit Grayscale 16-bit Color
__________________________________________________
800 x 600 1MB VRAM 800 x 600 1MB VRAM
60 or 72 Hz 60 Hz
1024 x 768 1MB VRAM 1024 x 768 2MB VRAM
60,72,or 76 Hz 60 or 76 Hz
1120 x 832 2MB VRAM
60 or 68 Hz
1280 x 1024 2MB VRAM
60 Hz
** SYSTEM **
ATI Graphics
Ultra Pro - VESA
with an ATI68875
8-bit Grayscale 16-bit Color
__________________________________________________
800 x 600 1MB VRAM 800 x 600 1MB VRAM
60 or 72 Hz 60 Hz
1024 x 768 1MB VRAM 1024 x 768 2MB VRAM
60, 72,or 76 Hz 60 or 76 Hz
1120 x 832 2MB VRAM
60 or 68 Hz
1280 x 1024 2MB VRAM
60 Hz
ATI 68800 Systems
The ATI display adapter device driver also lets you take advantage
of the following systems and display modes:
** SYSTEM **
Intel GX/Professional
with a TI 34075 RAMDAC
8-bit Grayscale 16-bit Color
____________________________________________________
1024 x 768 1MB VRAM 800 x 600 1MB VRAM
60, 72, or 76 Hz 60 Hz
1120 x 832 2MB VRAM 1024 x 768 2MB VRAM
60 or 68 Hz 60 or 76 Hz
1280 x 1024 2MB VRAM
60 Hz
** SYSTEM **
Data General Dasher DE2
with a TI 34075 RAMDAC
8-bit Grayscale 16-bit Color
_____________________________________________________
1024 x 768 1MB VRAM 800 x 600 1MB VRAM
60,72, or 76 Hz 60 Hz
1120 x 832 2MB VRAM 1024 x 768 2MB VRAM
60 or 68 Hz 60 or 76 Hz
1280 x 1024 2MB VRAM
60 Hz
** SYSTEM **
AST Premmia 4D
with a BT 481 RAMDAC
8-bit Grayscale 16-bit Color
_____________________________________________________
1024 x 768 1MB VRAM 800 x 600 1MB VRAM
60 or 72 Hz 60 Hz
1. If you received the ATIDriver.pkg file via NeXTmail or another
electronic source, place a copy of the file in a location where you
can access it when you log in as root.
2. Log in as root.
Only the superuser, root, can install the updated device driver. If
you're not sure how to log in as root, see your system
administrator.
3. If you received the ATIDriver.pkg file on a floppy disk, insert
the disk in the floppy disk drive and choose Check for Disks from
the Workspace Manageri application's Disk menu. When the disk icon
appears in the File Viewer, double-click it to open it.
4. Double-click the ATIDriver.pkg file.
5. Click the Install button in the Installer package window. When
the panel asks you to confirm that you want to install the package,
click Install. Then click Continue in the panel that warns you
you're about to overwrite existing files.
6. When the installation is complete, choose Quit from the
Installer menu.
7. Start up the Configure application by double-clicking
Configure.app (in /NextAdmin).
8. Click the Video icon at the top of Configure's Summary window
and then click Select in the Display Mode area of the Video Devices
view.
9. Find your model of ATI display adapter or system in the chart at
the beginning of these instructions, and in the Select Display Mode
panel, select the resolution with the highest refresh rate your
display adapter or system and display can support. Then click OK.
10. Choose Save from Configure's Configuration menu and then choose
Quit.
11. If you created a copy of the ATIDriver.pkg file in step 1, drag
the copy to the recycler.
12. Choose Log Out from the Workspace menu and then click the
Restart button in the Login window.
You must restart your computer after installing and configuring the
updated device driver.
The next time you start up your computer, it will use the new
driver to display NEXTSTEP in the display mode you selected in
Configure.
Note: If you notice a fuzzy or "sparkling" appearance after you
restart the computer, use the Configure application to change your
Display Mode to a higher resolution, a higher refresh rate, or
both.
For information about the logging in and out, the Workspace Manager
application, and the Installer application, see the NEXTSTEP User's
Guide. For information about the Configure application, see
Installing and Configuring NEXTSTEP Release 3.1 for Intel
Processors.
NeXT, the NeXT logo, NEXTSTEP, NeXTmail, and Workspace Manager are
trademarks of NeXT Computer, Inc.
ATIDriver.ReadMe.rtf, Update 1, 09-27-93
From: ahh@shoshin.Sun.COM (Aslam Haswarey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS 3.0 installation blues
Date: 29 Sep 1993 17:10:25 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28cfi1$jl4@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
Am I doomed to purchasing a 2.88MB floppy drive just to install NS3.0 on
my 040 NeXT Cube. Am I misinformed? Is there any hope...?
---
regards
-Aslam Haswarey <ahh@shoshin.Sun.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gil@hundun.cnd.mcgill.ca (Gil Bub)
Subject: A-D boards: suggestions?
Message-ID: <1993Sep29.174909.8889@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 17:49:09 GMT
Hi, Im looking for fast A-D boards with S-bus. I have found an ad for one,
made by Analyx, a 16 channel 166 Khz board. Is there anything else that
goes faster, or perhaps has on-board proceessing abilities (like the Microstar
board for PCs)?
Please Email me
Thanks in advance...
Gil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: terjem@stud.cs.uit.no (Terje Normann Marthinussen)
Subject: VL-bus SCSI cards on NeXTStep?
Sender: news@news.uit.no (News admin.)
Message-ID: <1993Sep29.182604.25314@news.uit.no>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 18:26:04 GMT
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Is there currently any VESA Localbus SCSI cards supported under NeXTStep?
I'm about to buy NS and put it on my 486, and therefore I was planning
on moving a 1.2GB Quantum from my Amiga. But I just hate the thought of
wasting a fast SCSI disk on a slow ISA controller...
I also hear that the BusLogic BT445S VLB card emulates the Adaptec cards.
Anyone that has tried this under NS?
Terje Marthinussen
terjem@stud.cs.uit.no
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 030 Cube
Date: 29 Sep 1993 20:50:26 +0200
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <28cldi$rki@cc.tut.fi>
References: <28a6e1$ec4@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> <28c2ah$cl8@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU>
>In article <28a6e1$ec4@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU> cfa0802@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU (Colin Allen)
>writes:
> I have an opportunity to pick up an old floppy only 030 cube.
> Any ideas what it is worth?
> Thanks.
I'd suggest you to buy a Teac SCSI floppy drive. I bought a 1.44 M
Teac SCSI floppy drive for my 030 cube and so far I've been happy with it.
The only problem is that the drive write 1.44 M format on a 720 KB
disks, but it actually doesn't bother me, that all my old disks are now
twice the size they used to be :-)
--
Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks
Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can NeXT (Sony) CDROM be placed on its side?
Date: 29 Sep 1993 19:37:07 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28co53INNhql@network.ucsd.edu>
Can a NeXT (Sony) CDROM player safely be placed on its side? I have a few
too many footprints on my desk...
--
Alexander Levine Department of Philosophy
alevine@ucsd.edu 0302, UCSD
NeXTMail fine La Jolla, CA 92093
************************************************
Disclaimer: I am responsible for all opinions
expressed by anyone at any time.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc., La Jolla, CA
Date: 29 Sep 93 14:56:58 PDT
Message-ID: <1993Sep29.145658.14557@crash>
Summary: New ATI driver problems
Today I received via anon ftp from the ftp.next.com site the new
ATI Drivers for supporting the higher resolution displays for
Intel GX Professional workstations.
I just installed the driver and initially selected the 60hZ option
for 1120x832 "RGB 555/15" display. I rebooted the machine and when
it came up, it was WONDERFUL to see the good ol' NeXT-style resoltion
on the machine. I thought everything was fine until I logged on and
started moving windows around. The screen fills with horizontal lines
and generally goes awry at the slightest movement of a menu, icon, or
window. So I thought maybe I needed to switch to the 68hZ option.
So I re-ran Configure.app, reconfigured for the higher refresh rate,
and rebooted.
I still get the garbage on the screen.
What's wrong? Is it that this Driver is buggy, or is my machine
broken, or what?
Any suggestions, comments, help, or advice is welcome and appreciated!
I will post a summary after a couple days.
-- brian dear -- coconut computing, inc -- brian@coconut.com --
From: jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel EtherExpress, need help
Date: 30 Sep 1993 00:05:33 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <28d7sdINN8vh@gap.caltech.edu>
we have successfully installed the Intel ethernetExpress 16TP
on both ISA and EISA NS/I machines. We cannot, however,
get the Intel EtherExpress 16C to work on either machine.
Anyone have any clues?
AdvTHANKSance
jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: crespo@vcd.hp.com (Ivan Crespo)
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Sender: news@vcd.hp.com (News user)
Message-ID: <CRESPO.93Sep29171715@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com>
In-Reply-To: coconut@crash.cts.com's message of 29 Sep 93 14:56:58 PDT
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 00:17:14 GMT
References: <1993Sep29.145658.14557@crash>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
I don't think it is your machine, I have the same problem...
i.
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Davis)
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Message-ID: <CE56z3.B7u@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
References: <1993Sep29.145658.14557@crash>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 01:04:14 GMT
In article <1993Sep29.145658.14557@crash>,
Brian Dear <brian@coconut.com> wrote:
>
>I just installed the driver and initially selected the 60hZ option
>for 1120x832 "RGB 555/15" display. I rebooted the machine and when
>it came up, it was WONDERFUL to see the good ol' NeXT-style resoltion
>on the machine. I thought everything was fine until I logged on and
>started moving windows around. The screen fills with horizontal lines
>and generally goes awry at the slightest movement of a menu, icon, or
>window. So I thought maybe I needed to switch to the 68hZ option.
>So I re-ran Configure.app, reconfigured for the higher refresh rate,
>and rebooted.
>
Even though the 1120x832 RGB 555/16 modes are listed in the
panel in Configure.app, I don't think they are supported. Here's the
README concerning the Intel GX/P:
>
>System 8-bit Grayscale 16-bit Color
>
>Intel GX/Professional 1024 x 768 1MB VRAM 800 x 600 1MB VRAM
>with a TI 34075 RAMDAC 60, 72, or 76 Hz 60 Hz
>
> 1120 x 832 2MB VRAM 1024 x 768 2MB VRAM
> 60 or 68 Hz 60 or 76 Hz
>
> 1280 x 1024 2MB VRAM
> 60 Hz
>
I have an Intel box, too, but my temporary monitor is too
crummy for me to test the NeXT-native modes right now. I really like
the 8-bit grayscale modes, though. (Thanks!)
Rob
--
| Robert Davis davis@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
| "Look up, Hannah." NeXT Mail accepted
--
From: mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu (Mark Stankus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Heard a pop. What should I do?
Message-ID: <54841@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Date: 30 Sep 93 01:03:02 GMT
Sender: news@sdcc12.ucsd.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mathematics @ UCSD
My non-turbo black hardware made a pop sound.
What should I do?
I am going to power it down in a minute. What else
should I do?
Mark Stankus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: josh@cs.rochester.edu (Josh Tenenberg)
Subject: Uninterruptible Power Supply
Message-ID: <1993Sep29.210927.6161@cs.rochester.edu>
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 21:09:27 GMT
My system administrator is recommending that I spend some of
the few bucks I have for equipment that the administrators have
begrudgingly forked over on an Uninterruptable Power Supply for my '040.
I'm not sure that I need this, and it is a hefty amount to pay (~$600).
I almost never run long jobs, mostly editing, mail, a small bit
of programming. I work at a university, and power is relatively
stable. In addition, I back up my work frequently. If I do get
a UPS, it only gives me 5 minutes. I assume that this is so that I
can shut things down carefully. Are there programs that I can get
(what/where?) that will do this automatically?
I am most concerned about risk of damage to my machine. Might I be almost
as well served by a surge protector, at 1/10th the cost? I also
noticed that there are power conditioners and voltage regulators?
Do I want one of these? Any advice would be most welcome.
Josh D. Tenenberg
Department of Mathematics and
Computer Science
Indiana University at South Bend
1700 Mishawaka Avenue
P.O. Box 7111
South Bend, Indiana 46634
(219) 237-4525
fax: (219) 237-4538
josh@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu
--
Josh D. Tenenberg
Department of Computer Science
University of Rochester
Rochester, New York 14627-0226
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jgg@LoftTech.com (J. G. Gregory)
Subject: Does NeXT CD-ROM work on Intel SCSI systems?
Message-ID: <1993Sep30.015410.1881@LoftTech.com>
Sender: jgg@LoftTech.com
Organization: LoftTech Incorporated
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 01:54:10 GMT
I seem to remember some time back reading that the NeXT CD-ROM wouldn't work on
some (all?) Intel-based systems. It could be just a particular SCSI card, I
don't know. Could someone who KNOWS tell me what the story is? We are trying
to save the cost of a CD-ROM for our next Intel machine.
--J Gregory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque)
Subject: Re: Problem with frame buffer (NS/I)
Message-ID: <1993Sep29.082630.15263@cubx.com>
Sender: news@cubx.com
Organization: Cub'x Systemes - Rueil Malmaison, France.
References: <2873d4$rfc@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 08:26:30 GMT
In article <2873d4$rfc@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald
Bora) writes:
>
>
> I am having a slight problem when I boot NS/I. The boot procedure
reports
> that it was unable to create a framebuffer (or something like that) and
> I automatically get logged in as "me". When I try to log out I get
> an error refering to the frame buffer once again and get logged back
> in as "me". I looked at my system specs and I found that I have a VGA
> with 512KB VRAM. Is this the problem?
>
> Also, I have looked at a lot of NeXT documentation and find myself in
> a slight state of confusion about the color situation. Is color
> possible on the 486 platform? If so what kind of graphics adaptor do
> I need (SVGA, XGA...) This is all very confusing.
>
Change your "me" password and log out (Use preference or Terminal w/
'passwd me')
Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French Guy"
Cub'x Systemes only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease...
ed@cubx.com It all started 2 full back-up ago...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: preuss@netcom.com (Peter Preuss)
Subject: Re: NS 3.0 installation blues
Message-ID: <preussCE59t7.KHH@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <28cfi1$jl4@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 02:05:30 GMT
Aslam Haswarey (ahh@shoshin.Sun.COM) wrote:
: Am I doomed to purchasing a 2.88MB floppy drive just to install NS3.0 on
: my 040 NeXT Cube. Am I misinformed? Is there any hope...?
Yes, there is hope. You might not need the prep floppy at all (depending
on your monitor EPROM revision).
Easiest would be the following setup:
- CD reader at SCSI 0, HD at SCSI 1 or greater.
Insert the CD and at power-up the system should boot up from the
lowest SCSI id. This assumes standard setup of the boot eprom parameters.
Good Luck!
Peter.
BTW: 3.1 comes with a 1.4MB floppy :)
--
preuss@futon.sfsu.edu San Francisco State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Gateway ATI Hardware
Message-ID: <CE4u7n.71E@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 20:28:34 GMT
The new Gateway 50V and 66V systems that had the ATI Ultra Pro VLB and then got
the ATI XLR (which I guess was just a chipset upgrade?) seem to have changed
again.
Well it seems that the XLR is no longer available either all you can get now
seem to be the ATI LX. What is the LX and does it work? I get the latest
NeXTAnswers, but they still talk about the AIT GUP and do not mention the XLR
or the LX.
Is anyone using these?
Thanks,
--
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
From: dougw@ks25.chi.il.us (Doug Waldron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT, NT, DOS coexisting
Message-ID: <2659@ks25.chi.il.us>
Date: 29 Sep 93 22:31:34 GMT
Organization: R. R. Donnelley & Sons
Does anyone have NeXTSTEP, NT and DOS coexisting on the same PC?
I will be loading NeXTSTEP onto my system shortly. I have DOS
and NT on an IDE disk and I will be using a SCSI disk for NeXTSTEP.
How can I load this so that I can start any of these three when
I power up?
The removable harddrive option, as suggested in a previous post
is interesting, but it sounds expensive.
Doug
dougw@ks25 or dougw$ks25.uucp or dougw@ks25.chi.il.us
From: smcgrew@theocean
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pro Audio Spectrum 16 problems
Date: 29 Sep 93 21:23:17
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <smcgrew.93Sep29212317@theocean>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Well I need some help.
I am using a pro Audio 16 card and am having a hell of a time.
I know that it is not supposed to work perfectly but hell I can't even get the thing
to work long enough to tell me if I have mail or not!
I have :
ALR evolution V pentium machine ISA backplane with 3 VL local bus slots
Adaptec 1542b scsi card
plenty of RAM and DIsk space
intel Etherexpress card
ATI vesa graphics adapter.
I would appreciate any insight that I can get in regard to this problem..
thank you ...
steve
smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Gateway and NS/I
Message-ID: <1993Sep30.043405.6677@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 93 04:34:05 GMT
In follow-up to my post requesting information on Gateway
configurations for NS/I, Garret Rice sent me the following, which he
asked me to post, since he doesn't currently have sendnews access:
> IF YOU WANT TO RUN NEXTSTEP, DO NOT BUY GATEWAY 2000!
> Unfortunately, the newest Gateway Machines are NOT
> compatible with NeXTSTEP. Apparently, Micronics (the
> motherboard manufacturer) removed support for PS/2 keyboard
> and mouse emulation (???) from the chip set in their newest
> motherboard release. Without this, NeXTSTEP will not work.
> There is no work around and Micronics has refused to work
> with NeXT on this issue. Therefore, this is an unsolvable
> problem.
>
> I have just spent the last two days trying to install NS on
> a new Gateway 2000 66V without success. After extensive talks
> with both Gateway and NeXT, I am sending the machine back.
>
> Garrett Rice
> garrett@renaissance.com (NeXTmail OK)
This is definitely bad news.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: smcgrew@theocean
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: graphics adapters
Date: 29 Sep 93 21:40:44
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <smcgrew.93Sep29214044@theocean>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Good day.
I am very interested in running my Intel/Nextstep box at at least native next resolution 1132x8??
My question is how can I do this. I currently have an ATI ultra pro card with 2 megs of memory.
I am using software that does not easily work with a lower screen resolution. You see it is driving me absolutely crazy....
If anyone has an answer please let me know. I have recieved the new drivers and have found that Next was kind enough to tease us with a setting that doesn't work! What is wrong with those people....
--Steven mcGrew
smcgrew@uoregon.edu
University of Oregon.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Uninterruptible Power Supply
Message-ID: <1993Sep30.040009.26169@gleap.sccsi.com>
Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com
Organization: GiantLeap Software
References: <1993Sep29.210927.6161@cs.rochester.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 04:00:09 GMT
Josh Tenenberg writes
>My system administrator is recommending that I spend some of
>the few bucks I have for equipment that the administrators have
>begrudgingly forked over on an Uninterruptable Power Supply for my '040.
>I'm not sure that I need this, and it is a hefty amount to pay (~$600).
>I almost never run long jobs, mostly editing, mail, a small bit
>of programming. I work at a university, and power is relatively
>stable. In addition, I back up my work frequently. If I do get
>a UPS, it only gives me 5 minutes. I assume that this is so that I
>can shut things down carefully. Are there programs that I can get
>(what/where?) that will do this automatically?
>
>I am most concerned about risk of damage to my machine. Might I be almost
>as well served by a surge protector, at 1/10th the cost? I also
>noticed that there are power conditioners and voltage regulators?
>Do I want one of these? Any advice would be most welcome.
>
I believe you can get a reasonable UPS for ~$160 (APC Back-UPS 400) which will
keep your system alive for ~10 minutes. My system stays alive for 11min 10
secs before the low battery alarm goes off. I have a 32Meg, 25Mhz mono station
with 105 internal and 1.2 gig external (with fan). I also have my ZyXEL modem
and (separate) answering machine on their too.
I recently downloaded a PD program called "upsd" (for UPS daemon) which shuts
the system down after a time period on battery. I had to fix one bug and add a
few features to make it useable. Mostly I had to add some installation
instructions for setting it up. Its still a little idiosynchratic, but at leat
its free. Be forewarned that you'll have to be prepared to cobble together a
special cable from (relatively) hard to come by parts. I can send you a copy
of this stuff if you like. I posted it to sonata, but I haven't checked to see
if it actually got into the submissions folder.
Charles.
--
Charles Lloyd clloyd@GLeap.sccsi.com
GiantLeap Software
(713) 292-2442 or 363-0887 (Hou) (713) 363-0936 (fax)
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway ATI Hardware
Date: 30 Sep 1993 07:21:05 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Message-ID: <28e1d1$boe@scratchy.reed.edu>
References: <CE4u7n.71E@ripple.uunet>
In article <CE4u7n.71E@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
writes:
>
> The new Gateway 50V and 66V systems that had the ATI Ultra Pro VLB and then
got
> the ATI XLR (which I guess was just a chipset upgrade?) seem to have changed
> again.
>
> Well it seems that the XLR is no longer available either all you can get now
> seem to be the ATI LX. What is the LX and does it work? I get the latest
> NeXTAnswers, but they still talk about the AIT GUP and do not mention the XLR
> or the LX.
Be forewarned that both the XLR and LX systems use DRAM graphics memory instead
of VRAM. I would suggest avoiding any system that does not use a linear VRAM
frame buffer, as NeXTSTEP makes large demands on your graphic subsystem and
requires a linear buffer or emulation thereof. Matrox MGA, Weitek Power 9000,
and S3-928 are the best (IMHO) chipsets, though currently none are supported on
PCI.
However, it is my understanding that the XLR and LX (I'm not sure on the LX)
use the ATI 68800 chipset, so they should be supportable with a minimum of
effort if not with the current drivers. You should check with NeXT to make sure
that they are supporting the cards on PCI. I wouldn't be surprised if NeXT has
written the drivers specifically for the ATI Ultra and/or Ultra Pro on VESA and
EISA only, in which case you will need a different driver.
--
Robert Seymour rseymour@reed.edu
NeXTSTEP developer, Metaresearch Inc. rseymour@metaresearch.com
Artificial Life Project (NeXTmail Accepted at Both)
Philosophy & Economics, Reed College Portland, Oregon
From: green@ids.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Newer Gateway 2000's not working with NextStep
Date: 30 Sep 93 08:51:46 EST
Organization: IDS World Network, (401) 884-9002 <data>, ids.net [155.212.1.2]
Message-ID: <1993Sep30.085146.1@ids.net>
I just got off the phone and they tell me that the Gateway 2000 486/66V (or any
Gateway machine, for that matter) is no longer supported due to [to make a long
story short] Gateways repeated modifying of motherboards. I was just about to
order a brandy new 486/66 to run NextStep on. Does anyone know if this is
REALLY really true? The fellow from NextStep said there would/was a problem
during installation on the machine, but what if I just copied a hard drive from
a machine that was already installed? Does anyone know if this might work? Or
if there are any tricks to getting it to work?
Andy, green@ids.net
From: fletcher@nova.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Date: 30 Sep 1993 08:47:32 -0400
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Message-ID: <28ekh4$6s0@nova.umd.edu>
References: <1993Sep29.145658.14557@crash> <CRESPO.93Sep29171715@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com>
In article <CRESPO.93Sep29171715@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com>,
Ivan Crespo <crespo@vcd.hp.com> wrote:
>
>I don't think it is your machine, I have the same problem...
>
>i.
>--
DITTO--Just when I thought I would have to post, someone
else is there for me! Anyway, don't even think of the
high res grayscale option--you (or I did, at least) get
nothing but lines (no picture). To recover I had to boot with
the config=default (VGA) mode and reinstall the old driver
(which I had saved!-)
My data point: Intel GX Pro box with a ViewSonic 7 monitor.
Any other data points out there?
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From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: Q: Adaptec SMARTcache III....
Message-ID: <CE67B2.62M@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <1993Sep29.001026.25412@bMD.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 14:09:02 GMT
In article <1993Sep29.001026.25412@bMD.com> Neil Greene <neil@bMD.com> writes:
>I am considering the purchase of an Adaptec SMARTcache III EISA/SCSI
>Controller and I was wondering if anyone on the net could tell me if the
>32 bit version card works well, and if so, what type of performance are
>they getting.
>
Don't you mean the DPT SMARTcache III?
I really like this board. I don't have the DiskPerformance.app so
I cannot post figures, but I have Seagate 11200 fast SCSI 2 drives
on both my cube at work and my Advance 2000 Intel box at home.
The white disk is subjectively faster than black under the 2022.
I think it would be a good idea to post side by side drive performance
metrics for different controller board/drive combinations. If others
are interested, I would be willing to act as a clearing house for this
information, to edit and repost a table of benchmarks.
Anyone else interested in this?
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From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT, NT, DOS coexisting
Date: 30 Sep 1993 16:12:22 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <28f0h6$pbo@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <2659@ks25.chi.il.us>
Doug Waldron (dougw@ks25.chi.il.us) wrote:
: Does anyone have NeXTSTEP, NT and DOS coexisting on the same PC?
: I will be loading NeXTSTEP onto my system shortly. I have DOS
: and NT on an IDE disk and I will be using a SCSI disk for NeXTSTEP.
: How can I load this so that I can start any of these three when
: I power up?
: The removable harddrive option, as suggested in a previous post
: is interesting, but it sounds expensive.
I was able to install NT and DOS on one partition and NS/I on another
partition of a single drive. Don't know how you'd do it for multiple
drives, though.
--
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University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
From: mandel@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu (Hector Mandel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSi on a notebook
Date: 30 Sep 1993 16:32:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <28f1n2$c2t@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Is anyone out there using NSi on a Toshiba 6600 portable or with a NOMAD 450DXC
from GateWay 2000?? I'm shopping for a quality laptop or notebook for use
in presentations and would like to have a system that I'd be able to run
NSi on if the need arose. Thanks in advance. Reply by email to
mandel@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu...
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From: tcollins@cisco.com (Tracy Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: My clock is running late (black hardware)
Date: 27 Sep 1993 19:39:51 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems
Message-ID: <287fi7INNn5f@cronkite.cisco.com>
References: <1993Sep26.171919.3644@nidat.sub.org>
Peter Nitezki (Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org) wrote:
: Subject tells almost all.
:
: I'm running a NeXTstation 25MHz and have noticed the clock is running
: considerably late (well, at least 10 minutes a year, probably more).
:
: Is this normal behaviour or a fault?
:
: Can I do anything about it?
:
: Does anybody know whether this is a crystal or a line frequency driven
: circuit?
: --
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just to add another data point, my NeXTstation has the same problem...
I also powerdown the system whenever I'm done using it. I wonder if
this could contribute to the problem?
tracy
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From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby)
Subject: Re: Sound Card Problems!
Message-ID: <1993Sep25.002127.9167@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
References: <1993Sep22.203446.4490@ToTSySSoft.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1993 00:21:27 GMT
Thanks for all the responces. I haven't had a chance to fix it yet, but this
looks like the reapeting sounds on the sound card it is a common and easy to
fix problem..
I'll get it fixxed this weekend
Rick
From: cooncat@mingus (Jessica L. Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Optical disk drive rebelling!!
Date: 30 Sep 1993 17:14:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <28f45e$3os@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi--I have an older NeXTcube ('88) with a Canon optical disk drive on the
brink. The disk spins really fast (the whole cube shakes!) and a message
appears on the console claiming it's not up to speed.
Bell Atlantic says to "dust under the bottom cover" especially "around the
little gold box." They didn't seem to have much faith in that process, so I'm
interested in entertaining other ideas....
--
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NeXTmail: cooncat@mingus.mills.edu
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From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Date: 30 Sep 1993 16:45:21 GMT
Organization: E&S
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28f2f1$m2e@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <28ekh4$6s0@nova.umd.edu>
In article 6s0@nova.umd.edu, fletcher@nova.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher) writes:
> In article <CRESPO.93Sep29171715@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com>,
> Ivan Crespo <crespo@vcd.hp.com> wrote:
> >
> >I don't think it is your machine, I have the same problem...
> DITTO--Just when I thought I would have to post, someone
> else is there for me! Anyway, don't even think of the
> high res grayscale option--you (or I did, at least) get
> nothing but lines (no picture). To recover I had to boot with
> the config=default (VGA) mode and reinstall the old driver
> (which I had saved!-)
Now wait a minute...
Because your monitor wasn't capable of synching at 1280 X 1024 @ 8 bits in
non-interlaced mode, you re-installed the old ATI driver?
Why not just switch to the 1024 X 768 mode of the new driver (or possibly
1120 X 832)?
Also, just because Win-Doze can successfully drive your monitor at 1280 X 1024
@ 8 bits in *interlaced* mode doesn't mean that your monitor can operate at
the same resolution in *non-interlaced* mode.
Since installing the new driver, I have switched from 1024 X 768 @ 16 bits
(72 hz) to 1120 X 832 @ 8 bits (68 hz). The display is rock solid.
I have a Sony CPD-1730 monitor. I cannot run it at 1280 X 1024 @ 8 bits
non-interlaced, hence I use it at 1120 X 832. I also think 60 hz causes
severe eye-strain, so I wouldn't use the 1280 X 1024 mode of the new ATI
driver anyway.
Nevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: Re: installation problems - intr dropped IRQ
Message-ID: <1993Sep30.180316.21386@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
References: <28c684$97r@netnews.alf.dec.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 18:03:16 GMT
In article <28c684$97r@netnews.alf.dec.com> jlf@alf.dec.com writes:
>
>Has anyone seen problems like this?
>I have been trying to install NS/FIS on a 433dx with 16MB of memory and a S3-9
>video (with 1MB of VRAM). During the disk formatting I get
>
>intr: dropped IRQ 7
I get these messages some times. But for me they end when NS/FIP
installs the Parallel Port driver. pp has the same IRQ.
>--
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>jlf@alf.dec.com | knowledge."
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway ATI Hardware
Date: 30 Sep 1993 18:00:47 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <28f6sf$6ei@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <CE4u7n.71E@ripple.uunet> <28e1d1$boe@scratchy.reed.edu>
In article <28e1d1$boe@scratchy.reed.edu>,
Robert Seymour <rseymour@reed.edu> wrote:
>
>Be forewarned that both the XLR and LX systems use DRAM graphics memory instead
>of VRAM. I would suggest avoiding any system that does not use a linear VRAM
>frame buffer, as NeXTSTEP makes large demands on your graphic subsystem and
>requires a linear buffer or emulation thereof. Matrox MGA, Weitek Power 9000,
>and S3-928 are the best (IMHO) chipsets, though currently none are supported on
>PCI.
The XLR still uses VRAM (as far as I can tell). Gateway alphabet soup
is confusing though.
The XLR worked fine with the old drivers and with the newers ones as well
on my system.
The LX is reported to use 2MB dram to emulate 1Mb vram. I don't know if
it works with NS/I.
--
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j-weiss@nwu.edu
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From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: Re: Does NeXT CD-ROM work on Intel SCSI systems?
Message-ID: <1993Sep30.180641.21535@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
References: <1993Sep30.015410.1881@LoftTech.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 18:06:41 GMT
In article <1993Sep30.015410.1881@LoftTech.com> jgg@LoftTech.com (J. G. Gregory) writes:
>I seem to remember some time back reading that the NeXT CD-ROM wouldn't work o
>some (all?) Intel-based systems. It could be just a particular SCSI card, I
>don't know. Could someone who KNOWS tell me what the story is? We are trying
>to save the cost of a CD-ROM for our next Intel machine.
it (just) works. I have Adaptec 1540C.
>--J Gregory
-harri-
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From: jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Subject: Re: New ATI drivers
Message-ID: <1993Sep30.190954.25890@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
References: <28cad8$cip@fermat.mayo.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 19:09:54 GMT
In article <28cad8$cip@fermat.mayo.edu> ray@mayo.edu writes:
>
>For those of you who haven't grabbed it yet, you may want to get the new
>ATI driver off ftp.next.com. I'm currently running my Intel GX/P in the
>new 1120 x 832 8 bit grey scale mode. Since most folks probably haven't
>seen NEXTSTEP in 8 bit grey scale, I recommend giving it a go. The extra
>real-estate is nice, and the loss of color isn't that bad. It seems to be
>a really nice compromise between the aesthetics of color, and the low eye
>strain of the old 2 bit mono systems (anybody have some nice Ansel Adams
>tiffs they're willing to share?)
>
>The new driver also supports a 1280 x 1024 grey scale mode for the ATI,
>although my monitor (an Ikegami C/T 20D) wasn't very happy trying to sync
>up with the signal.
>
>
>--
>Ray Ghanbari
>Mayo Foundation
>ray@mayo.edu
I haven't received the driver yet, but I read the specs. Any speculation
on:
1) Why there is no 1120x832x16bit mode? There's enough VRAM and
the existence of the grayscale version sort of implies that
running the board at that resolution in color is possible.
2) Why are the high-res grayscale modes at such low refresh rates?
My ATI card happily does 1280x1024x8bit @ 70 Hz (but only under
Windoze :-( ).
Also is the Ti 34075 RAMDAC supported under VL-bus? I noticed it is
supported under EISA and the EISA and VLB boards present the same
interface to the driver (I think). For some reason, I got a VLB board that
has a 34075 instead of a 68875.
Finally, is the speed of the driver improved or did it just add new
resolutions?
Thanks,
Jon
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From: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: gateway pentium/pci - DOES IT WORK?
Date: 30 Sep 1993 19:56:11 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <28fdkr$hkh@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Subject says it all. Gateway's latest PC-Magazine add
features a PCI-bus pentium machine. Anyone with
a clue know anything that would or wouldn't make
this thing run NS/FIP??
-jonathan nagler
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert)
Subject: QUIET 1G 3.5" drive wanted...
Message-ID: <1993Sep30.190517.20929@icaen.uiowa.edu>
Sender: usenet@icaen.uiowa.edu (UseNet News daemon)
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 19:05:17 GMT
Recently I looked for a 1G 3.5" drive to put inside my NeXTstation. I was
more concerned about heat than anything else (perhaps incorrectly?) and ended
up buying a Seagate ST11200N. It gets fairly warm, but not so hot it can't
be touched and seems fine internal in my NeXT. But it is *noisy*. When idly
spinning it is slightly more noisy than the 400M Seagate it replaced, but
that doesn't really bother me (though quieter would be nice...) but the thing
that really bugs me is that it is terribly noisy when seeking/reading/writing!
It sounds like I've got a popcorn popper in there. I'm thinking I may return
it (it just arrived yesterday but I've got a 30 day return policy) but I need
to pick up something else to replace it if I decide to go this route. Does
anyone have any suggestions for something that is quiet (the quieter the
better, I've decided this is more important to me than raw speed since the
NeXT's SCSI bus and filesystem isn't going to keep up with even a slow 1G
drive anyway based on my testing with the Seagate) and doesn't get too hot.
I've got experience with DEC 3105's, they seem fairly quiet compared to the
Seagate but tend to run hot (though I've heard some people say that the newer
ones aren't as hot as the first ones made were) Any advice/recommendations
out there?
--
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"Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would
not have been informed." --Someone more clever than I
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From: hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!cusa!magnusson!kris (Kristopher Magnusson)
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Message-ID: <1993Sep29.044950.595@magnusson.uucp>
Sender: kris@magnusson.uucp
Organization: Salt Lake area NeXT Group
References: <1993Sep26.021130.3691@holli.uucp>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 04:49:50 GMT
In article <1993Sep26.021130.3691@holli.uucp> uunet!sci34hub!tybrin4!holli!me
(Trey McClendon) writes:
<stuff deleted>
| It sure would be helpful to get to the bottom of this DEC DSP3105 mystery.
Do
| these DEC drives have such a wide variation in operating temperature that
some
| overheat in a marginal ventilation conditions?
|
| Are all slab fans created equal? :)
|
| Trey
| --
| Trey McClendon, Madison, AL
Although DEC drives run more on the hot side than the cool side, they've all
been extremely reliable as well as extremely fast. The DOA rates are
astonishingly low, especially compared to certain makes and models of other
drives that are popular in the NeXT community--I had my first DOA 3105 today.
I think the DEC drive is one of the best all-around drives a person can
purchase.
Just so you know I'm not in bed with DEC, I sell every drive known to
humankind, including the HP drives (we're an HP
PA-RISC-and-everything-else-under-the-sun reseller), and the DEC is the drive
of choice among Alpine's NEXTSTEP/Unix engineering staff and our clientele.
Kris
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From: jonesc@tsunami.intel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Date: 30 Sep 93 12:15:44
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The problem with horizontal lines is related to the ATI Mach32 chipset version. I've tried the new drivers with the following results:
1120 X 832 (16-bit color) ATI Mach32 Rev3 chipset - Horizontal lines when moving windows.
1120 X 832 (16-bit color) ATI Mach32 Rev6 chipset - No problem! Screen updates are just the same as with 1024 X 768.
This test was done with the Professional GX (on-board ATI), but I suspect the same will be true with the ATI GUP VL-bus cards... I know they just changed from the rev3 to the rev6 chipset so someone with a rev6 chipset could confirm.
I think that the rev6 chipset will be required to support 1120X832, but I don't have any evidence to support this... so it's just a guess right now.
Cory Jones
jonesc@tsunami.intel.com
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From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Subject: Re: New ATI Driver not working
Message-ID: <CE6snu.9En@news.otago.ac.nz>
Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff)
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References: <28evm1$m2e@cnn.sim.es.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 21:50:18 GMT
In article <28evm1$m2e@cnn.sim.es.com> npratt@glacier.sim.es.com
(Nevin Pratt) writes:
>
> 1120x832x8bit @ 68 hz on my Sony CPD-1730 is rock solid.
>
> 1120x832x16bit @ 60/68 hz produces the symptoms you describe.
>
> I suspect these anomolies are due to monitor differences.
>
> Nevin
We have a Sony CPD-1730S (Southern Hemisphere) with ATI LocalBuThe
pic is fine at 1120x832, either 8 or 16-bit, we can even manage to
lock it at 1280x1024 8-bit. Things are fine until we move a
window/dock/menu, then shimmering lines appear. It looks like scan
linea are randomly shifted to the right by about 30 odd pixels. I
would suggest it is a bus timing problem, conflicting with retrace or
some such, as when I stop moving the window all is happy again.
We are using a DECpc 466d2 MTE and VL-Bus ATI GUP. We have one of the
new ATI cards arriving in the next couple of days, it will be
interesting to see what that does.
By the way, welcome to the wonderful world of the PC, trying to get
drivers to work with all configurations is hell, keep at it NeXT, we
really do appreciate your work!
--
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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Date: 30 Sep 1993 21:09:49 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Distribution: na
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References: <28ekh4$6s0@nova.umd.edu> <28f2f1$m2e@cnn.sim.es.com> <jonesc.93Sep30121544@tsunami>
In article <jonesc.93Sep30121544@tsunami>, <jonesc@tsunami.intel.com> wrote:
>
>The problem with horizontal lines is related to the ATI Mach32 chipset version. I've tried the new drivers with the following results:
>
> 1120 X 832 (16-bit color) ATI Mach32 Rev3 chipset - Horizontal lines when moving windows.
>
> 1120 X 832 (16-bit color) ATI Mach32 Rev6 chipset - No problem! Screen updates are just the same as with 1024 X 768.
>
>This test was done with the Professional GX (on-board ATI), but I suspect the same will be true with the ATI GUP VL-bus cards... I know they just changed from the rev3 to the rev6 chipset so someone with a rev6 chipset could confirm.
>
>I think that the rev6 chipset will be required to support 1120X832, but I don't have any evidence to support this... so it's just a guess right now.
>
I have a Gateway with their ATI XLR board, which is supposed to be new Rev
6 chipset. 1120x832x16 @60 Hz works fine. 68 Hz distorts on my screen,
but this may be the monitor.
--
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From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Dec DSP3105: Impressions?
Message-ID: <CE6vov.24s@news.cis.umn.edu>
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Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Labratory Information Services
References: <1993Sep26.021130.3691@holli.uucp> <1993Sep29.044950.595@magnusson.uucp>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 22:53:25 GMT
Perhaps a personal curiosity for all you folks that have these IN your
slab or cube, would you mind sharing the model and how much RAM you have
in them? Particularly the folks that have had heat/reliability problems
with them.
Thanks,
peter
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From: erik@csn.org (Erik Mugele)
Subject: Using HP DeskWriter on Black hardware
Message-ID: <CE73q4.B7B@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (news)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 01:49:14 GMT
I still have not gotten any responses on the following problem. I am holding
on to hope that someone has an answer.
I have an HP DeskWriter (for the macintosh, not the HP DeskJet 5xx) that
I would like to use with my black slab. What will it take in the way
of hardware/software to make the DeskWriter work with my black hardware?
Is it even possible?
TNX in advance.
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From: dougw@ks25.chi.il.us (Doug Waldron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Longest NeXT Laser Printer Cable
Message-ID: <2661@ks25.chi.il.us>
Date: 1 Oct 93 00:15:18 GMT
References: <1993Sep29.032602.7487@hot.com>
Organization: R. R. Donnelley & Sons
In article <1993Sep29.032602.7487@hot.com>, Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com writes:
> Is it possible to get a longer NeXT laser printer cable? I'm sure
> this is in a FAQ but I can't find it. How long is the standard cable
> and how long is the extended one (if it's possible)?
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
Geeeeez, I sure hope that "printer cable" isn't slang for something else.
How long is a standard one?? An extended one?? yuk yuk yuk, you're
too much Robert!
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From: jrhoads@netcom.com (Jason Rhoads)
Subject: HELP! Compaq LTE & NS/FIP
Message-ID: <jrhoadsCE77pE.CsJ@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 03:15:13 GMT
Has anyone tried to load NEXTSTEP 3.1 on a Compaq LTE 4/25 using the
Enhanced QuickConnect? The Enhanced QuickConnect has an Adaptec SCSI-2
controller built in. Unfortunately, the install program can not find the
CD-ROM (I am using an external Sony CD-ROM) Any ideas?
---
Jason R. Rhoads
jrhoads@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu ()
Subject: ATI graphics cards: 3 vs 6
Message-ID: <1993Oct1.044455.12862@news.yale.edu>
Originator: jont@minerva
Keywords: ATI graphics
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 04:44:55 GMT
Could someone please tell me how you can tell the difference between a
revision 6 ATI card and a revision 3 card? I just bought a card used from
a guy who said it was about 6 weeks old. If it helps, its a VLB ATI
Graphics Ultra Pro and it has the TI34075 RAMDAC rather than the 68875
that the manual says it should have.
Thanks,
Jon
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From: t93810am@sfc.keio.ac.jp (TATUJI MIYOSHI)
Subject: PCI ATI Ultra
Message-ID: <1993Oct1.085852.9524@sfc.keio.ac.jp>
Sender: news@sfc.keio.ac.jp
Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus, Fujisawa Japan
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 08:58:52 GMT
Hello
I am planning to buy a Pentium machine from Gateway2000.
And I am not sure if it can run NEXTSTEP.
Has anyone tried it yet???
I am not sure if
PCI ATI Ultra XLR 2MB graphics
is supported.
Thanks in advnace.
t93810am@sfc.keio.ac.jp
Akihiko Miyoshi
E-mail would be better--I would notice it faster.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Uninterruptible Power Supply
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 20:49:39 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <sgeruXS00WB6N8Ewpy@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1993Sep29.210927.6161@cs.rochester.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-Sep-93 Uninterruptible
Power Supply by Josh Tenenberg@cs.roches
> stable. In addition, I back up my work frequently. If I do get
> a UPS, it only gives me 5 minutes. I assume that this is so that I
> can shut things down carefully. Are there programs that I can get
> (what/where?) that will do this automatically?
As far as I know, there aren't any such programs available. What is
available is something that will pop up a big warning screen when the
power goes out so that you can save your work yourself.
> I am most concerned about risk of damage to my machine. Might I be almost
> as well served by a surge protector, at 1/10th the cost? I also
> noticed that there are power conditioners and voltage regulators?
> Do I want one of these? Any advice would be most welcome.
You quite probably would do as well with a decent surge protector & line
filter.
In order to clarify the terms, here's a few definitions.
Surge protector: a device that prevents high energy spikes (greater than
450 VAC, usually due to nearby lightning strikes) from damaging your
machine.
Power conditioner (or 'line' filter): a device that filters out 'noise'
on the AC line and smooths out transient irregularies in the AC line to
produce a smooth sine wave output. These devices will smooth out short,
small energy spikes (something like 200VAC for .01 sec) that occur when
motors are turned on or off, such as refrigerators cycling, etc...
Voltage regulator: a device that produces a steady output voltage of 115
VAC, regardless of what the voltage applied is (at least within a
certain range). A voltage regulator will typically be able to deal with
an applied voltage anywhere between 70 VAC and 200 VAC, but this varies
greatly.
-----
10 dollars will get you a surge protector that will save your machine
from lightning strikes -- a minimum required investment for anyone with
a computer....
$30 - $60 will get you both a surge protector and a line filter. I
would recommend that you get something in this price range. Tripp-lite
is a pretty good brand.
Voltage regulators are much more expensive (> $100) and they don't
really offer anything to a NeXT owner. This is because the power
supplies in NeXT machines are very well made, and can deal with a broad
range of applied line voltages (from 90VAC to 220VAC, if I remember
correctly).
A UPS is really a surge protector + line filter + voltage regulator +
battery backup, which is why they cost so much.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kat@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Holden)
Subject: Re: QUIET 1G 3.5" drive wanted...
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <Sep30.224731.58153@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 22:47:31 GMT
References: <1993Sep30.190517.20929@icaen.uiowa.edu>
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
In article <1993Sep30.190517.20929@icaen.uiowa.edu> dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) writes:
>
>anyone have any suggestions for something that is quiet (the quieter the
>better, I've decided this is more important to me than raw speed since the
>NeXT's SCSI bus and filesystem isn't going to keep up with even a slow 1G
>drive anyway based on my testing with the Seagate) and doesn't get too hot.
>I've got experience with DEC 3105's, they seem fairly quiet compared to the
>Seagate but tend to run hot (though I've heard some people say that the newer
>ones aren't as hot as the first ones made were) Any advice/recommendations
>out there?
>
>--
>Doug Siebert dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu
>"Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would
>not have been informed." --Someone more clever than I
I just got a Maxtor 1240s SCSI II drive a couple weeks ago. It's pretty quiet, but
I think it might be a little hot for you. It's nice though, 8-9ms access times :)
Are you looking for something that gets warm, but not so hot that you can't leave your
hand on it? If so, this would be ok.
~Steve
================================================================================| Steve Holden | You know there ain't no Devil, |
| Kat@Lamar.Colostate.edu | There's just God when he's drunk. |================================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: honor@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Alex Honor)
Subject: cable question
Message-ID: <1993Oct1.110333.19090@news.arc.nasa.gov>
Sender: usenet@news.arc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 11:03:33 GMT
Hello all,
I'm curious if anyone knows the maximum length cable I could
use between my cube and monitor. Has anyone tried using a
cable longer than 3 meters? I imagine that such a cable
would have to be custom made.
Thanks for any advise,
/alex
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From: jlf@ryhope.enet.dec.com (Jeff Finkelstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: installation problems - intr dropped IRQ
Date: 1 Oct 1993 12:36:48 GMT
Organization: digital equipment corporation
Sender: jlf@ryhope (Jeff Finkelstein)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28h890$e6@netnews.alf.dec.com>
References: <28c684$97r@netnews.alf.dec.com> <1993Sep30.180316.21386@uwasa.fi>
>a few times, but it proceeds. While the file copying is going on, when it gets
>to around 30% it aborts with a
>
>installation failed: try again later with builddisk (or something like that
>msg)
>
>of course, when I try later it dies at the same point. I have used different
>SCSI cables, SCSI disks and the such but always have the same problem.
Thanks for the info on the "dropped IRQ 7". I'm still curious why the
message appear when nothing else is at IRQ 7 but that is not a major problem.
The real question is why does the installation abort? I thought I may have
a disk problem, but I get it on this system regardless of what disk or cables
I use.
Does anyone know of a way to find out what is going on?
--
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jlf@alf.dec.com | knowledge."
digital equipment corporation | - Albert Einstein
customer support center |
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Wanted: NeXT Floppy drive
Date: 1 Oct 1993 14:53:29 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28hg99$2he@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
This is a post to try and find the guy who was selling the NeXT floppy
drive for $100.00. If you are still out there I am interested. Could
you mail to me?
Thanks
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From: davida@guinness.huma.yorku.ca (David Aspinall)
Subject: Printing to an Apple Laserwriter Select 310?
Message-ID: <CE8Cy7.Fo7@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University, Humanities Department
References: <1993Sep21.174600.57726@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 18:06:07 GMT
klamb@basalt.Mines.Colorado.EDU (Kathleen Lamb) writes:
:
: Can anyone tell me if it's possible to attach an Apple Laserwriter Plus
: to a NeXT? Has anyone done this sucessfully?
:
: Kathleen Lamb
: klamb@mines.colorado.edu
How about an Apple LaserWriter Select 310? It has an Apple Serial port
and a standard Parallel port. I would like to connect my 486-DOS machine
to the parallel port and my NeXT 040 machine to the serial port. I have
what I think is a Apple Printer Cable but nothing seems to be happening!
The DOS machine works no problem, (of course it's not easy to
screw up a parallel connection) but the serial is giving me headaches.
If I understand correctly, the apple serial print port is RS-422
Mini-DIN and the NeXT is RS-423 Mini-DIN? Where is the difference? I
also have a NeXT Mini-DIN to 25 pin modem cable, is there a way to
connect that to the Printer serial port?
If this whole scheme cannot/willnot work I need to know so I can return
the printer and get my money back. 9 Days and counting...
Thank you for any assistance
David
PS I read NeXT FAQ on printers and it seems to suggest that the Apple
print cable should work. HELP!
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From: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr (Roberto DiCosmo)
Subject: Experiences with NS/I on Laptops or Portables
Message-ID: <1993Oct1.185202.28566@ens.fr>
Sender: news@ens.fr (USENET News System)
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, PARIS, France
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 18:52:02 GMT
I am considering the possibility of suggesting to our university
the use of NS/I on Intel laptops in place of/side by side with
the Macintosh Powerbooks... I would be very grateful to anybody
willing to share his opinions/experiences/doubts/worries/ideas
on such an experiment.
What would be a "reasonable" configuration to compare favourably
with a PowerBook 180? How much could it cost (all non optional
items added?). What software could we put on it to be a reasonable
alternative to the MacIntosh? Of course I imagine Executor would
be a must, but if you want only a Mac, you would buy a PowerBook,
not a laptop running a Mac emulator only, so I am thinking of
Emacs or WordPerfect or the like in MAB form...
What about connectivity? Fax/Modem etc.?
How reasonable would be to try a "developer" configuration on a laptop?
Any information could be a precious help!
Please send me a mail also: I'll try to collect and organize the answers
--
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45, Rue d'Ulm
75005 Paris FRANCE
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu ()
Subject: Problems with sound on NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Oct1.194256.8377@news.yale.edu>
Originator: jont@minerva
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 19:42:56 GMT
I just got NS/FIP up and running, but there are big problems with sound. I
know the sound support is less than perfect, but I can't even get the beep
sounds to play without locking up the system. I have a PAS 16 set for irq
5 and DMA 7. I have an EISA based system and NeXTanswers says using DMA 7
on EISA isn't a problem. I also have a BT-747S EISA SCSI card, so
incompatibility with the Adaptec card should not be an issue.
Thanks in advance,
Jon
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Subject: Advice on DAT tape drives
Message-ID: <markp.51.749491347@yang.earlham.edu>
From: markp@yang.earlham.edu (Mark Pearson)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 16:02:27 GMT
Organization: Earlham College
Two years ago we bought a WangDAT 2600 4mm DAT tape drive - it cost us $
1700. It has been used less than 20 times. The last level 0 dump that we did
it won't restore. Now we are told that the heads are screwed and Wangdat
want $500 to repair it.
A new DAT drive costs around $1,000. Can anyone recommend a new drive which
would read tapes recorded on the 2600 (compression off) - we really *need*
to restore the level 0 dump :-) but which is not manufactured by Wangdat?
I view a two year lifespan of minimal usage to be near PC levels of
reliability and therefore unacceptable.
I'd appreciate early replies via Mail if poss.
Thanks.
Mark Pearson
Earlham College,
Richmond, IN 47374
Tel (317) 983-1279
From: jonesc@tsunami.intel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI graphics cards: 3 vs 6
Date: 01 Oct 93 08:57:07
Organization: Intel Corporation
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <jonesc.93Oct18577@tsunami>
References: <1993Oct1.044455.12862@news.yale.edu>
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Content-Type: text/plain
I know that the TI34075 is a 24-bit RAMDAC, and I think that the ATI 68875 is also a 24-bit RAMDAC - so, there should be no difference in the functionality of the card with either RAMDAC.
I know how to tell the difference between the rev3 and rev6 on the Pro/GX machines (on-board ATI Mach32) which use the same chip as the Mach32 cards. So, on the Mach32 chip there should be a row of numbers (first or second row) something like: 2XXX68800X. The last 'X' should be the revision number... for example: 2200688003 would be a revision 3 chip. I havn't actually looked at a VL-bus card to make sure this is true, so someone else can confirm.
Cory Jones
jonesc@tsunami.intel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nils@daisy.syd.de
Subject: Help needed for WEITEK P9000 -> S3 Driver
Message-ID: <1993Oct1.114012.210@daisy.syd.de>
Sender: nils@daisy.syd.de
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 11:40:12 GMT
Hi, NeXT folks !
Some days before, somebody posted an article, in which he (she ??)
wrote, that Graphic Cards with P9000 Chipset run NeXTStep
with the brandnew S3 928 Driver.
I thought, that was complete sh... (sorry for that), but recently I heard
a rumour, that the P9000 is somewhat downward compatible with
the S3 928 Chip (this would be a GREAT move by WEITEK).
I tried the new S3 Driver with my P9000 (Diamond Viper),
and while booting, NS486 told me, that it found an S3 928 LocalBus
Card with 2MB VRAM on the LocalBus !!!?!?!?
Stunned I awaited the Login Panel, BUT NOTHING APPEARED: The Screen
stayed black !
NOW the ultimate Question: Is there a way to run NS486 with a P9000,
and if so : HOW. (or was this whole story about S3 -> P9000 compatibility
a joke to fool idiots like me ????)
Thanx for Help / Advice : Nils Heidorn, from good ol' Germany.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: Uninterruptible Power Supply (long)
Message-ID: <CE8DsD.A1G@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <sgeruXS00WB6N8Ewpy@andrew.cmu.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 18:24:13 GMT
In article <sgeruXS00WB6N8Ewpy@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-Sep-93 Uninterruptible
>Power Supply by Josh Tenenberg@cs.roches
>> stable. In addition, I back up my work frequently. If I do get
>> a UPS, it only gives me 5 minutes. I assume that this is so that I
>> can shut things down carefully. Are there programs that I can get
>> (what/where?) that will do this automatically?
>
>As far as I know, there aren't any such programs available. What is
>available is something that will pop up a big warning screen when the
>power goes out so that you can save your work yourself.
>
I recently got a Back-UPS 450 for my white hardware at home (a
486DX266 mini-tower EISA machine). In the only test I have done so
far I drove a Nanao F550i monitor, the system, and a modem for 12 minutes
without the low battery signal going off. I did not want to drain the
battery too far on the initial tests as I do not have cabling or software
yet. I figure I may get as much as 25-30 minutes before low battery
when the system is run annatendd and the monitor is powered down.
The price was right ($220 delivered second day air).
I got a copy of the upsd daemon (which Charles Lloyd so kindly sent me
. . . thanks Charles) and am beginning the spec of a new ups daemon
to safely drive the UPS on white systems. I do not like the way that
the upsd software is written so plan a major rewrite.
The current upsd for black has 2 pins connected so that DCD is raised
when power is coming from the battery, the other pin is signal ground.
I'd like any comments or suggestions on the following brief plan:
Cabling
UPS Serial
Shutoff RTS (DTR held low by computer raise it to kill UPS)
PowerFail DCD (low until UPS on battery power).
LowBattery CTS (low until 5 minute low battery warning)
GND GND
The general plan is as follows:
ups daemon to post a blocking read request on ttydf? device.
1. Open will succeed only on a power failure.
2. After open succeeds ensure that RTS is low with an ioctl()
and become the process group leader for the device
by making it our control terminal.
3. Optionally set a timeval structure if you wish to set
a shutdown at N minutes into power failure.
4. Post a select for ability to write with either the timeval
from 3 or NULL to block until low battery.
5. If select returns 1 we should perform a shutdown at low
battery mark.
6. If select timed out we also perform a shutdown based
on user selected time delay.
7. If DCD dropped during the select we will receive SIGHUP
and know that power was restored already so we restart
the demon to block on open.
Since the power down sequence is buried in the kernel, the message
("It's safe to turn off the computer" is in the mach_kernel), I may
have to stand on my head to do a gracefull powerdown.
Here's what my thoughts are on that:
1. To powerdown touch a control file (/etc/upsd/UPS_DOWN).
2. run a reboot -s to reboot to single user mode.
3. In the beginning of rc.boot if the UPS_DOWN file exists:
a. Make sure the root disk is writable.
b. if UPS_DOWN exists remove it.
c. sync a few times to flush change to disk.
d. Make sure power is still coming from battery.
If the power came back up why not just boot
multi-user? (config option on this?)
e. open the ups device and assert RTS.
(4.5 seconds later external power should be dropped cleanly).
(n.b. if any of a-c fail do normal startup)
Am I going to regret any of the above ^^^^ ?
User interaction.
Since the upsd software would be started in the /etc/rc.local file
at boot, and thus would not be a child of the workspace, I might
want to have a GUI app spawned by the loginwindow hook or on a users
dock, that would communicate via sockets with the ups daemon. This
way if a user is actively using the system they can be presented
with a control panel at the time of a power failure and do a manual
shutdown from that panel after saving their work.
For Idle systems that have a user logged in I'm wondering also
about the possibility of sending them power-down messages and
replacing the SavePanel object temporarily with one that could
safely save and rename files automagically (to a UPSPreserve tree).
But I don't know whether this is feasable or not.
Those who are interested in submitting some suggestions on
what kinds of functionality they would like to see, please
contact me via email, I think the posts could get rather large
and that I should repost summaries when the design has
stabilized.
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From: mikes@ceco.ceco.com (Michael Stepniczka)
Subject: Diamond Viper S3 card
Message-ID: <CE8Fn0.Iyr@ceco.ceco.com>
Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator)
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 19:04:11 GMT
Hi. I was wondering if anyone has gotten the Diamond Viper 2MB card (VLB) to work
with the new S3 driver for it. I noticed that the current docs say that support for add-on
cards will arrive in the future but still dare to dream, given the current shortage of ATIs.
Thanks in advance.
Mike Stepniczka
mikes@ceco.ceco.com
From: djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Date: 1 Oct 1993 20:17:51 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <28i39f$6bq@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <jonesc.93Sep30121544@tsunami>
In article <jonesc.93Sep30121544@tsunami> jonesc@tsunami.intel.com writes:
>
> The problem with horizontal lines is related to the ATI Mach32 chipset
version. I've tried the new drivers with the following results:
[stuff deleted]
I hate to be the bearer of bad news... but the problems reported with the
new ATI driver is related to the ATI card itself. It appears the "older"
cards (pre rev 6) have the problems reported. If I switch to the "new"
rev-6 card the problems go away :-(
David Jepson
Stratus Computer Inc.
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From: sav3@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Maxtor MXT1200S Drive + Sound playback = Bad News
Date: 1 Oct 1993 22:54:51 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <28icfr$dft@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Summary: Sound playback gaps. No fix.
Having shelled out a good amount of money for what I thought was the
fastest 1 gig drive around, I have just discovered that, for sound
playback, practically ALL the new Maxtor drives have a fatal "feature"
that makes them unusable. Thermo Recalibration.
1) The symptom
My system is an Intel Pro GX workstation with onboard adaptec SCSI and
ATI GUP. I'm running windoze right now until NS 3.2 comes out and can
support the onboard SCSI. Playing back > 4 minute 44.1K stereo
soundfiles from WAVE for Windows, I encountered gapping once in a
while. I reformatted the disk, partitioned it, futzed with buffers,
etc. Nothing could fix it. I called Maxtor, told them the problem,
and the said it was the drive.
2) What Maxtor told me
I called tech support (800) 2MAXTOR, and the guy told me that with
these new very high speed drives (the disk spins at something like
6300 RPM), in order to maintain data integrity, every 5 minutes the
drive must recalibrate the heads (some kind of re-alignment), This
takes 200 milleseconds, but in that time it needs to clear its
256K buffer to do a few read/write tests. The end result is that
every 5 minutes, your data flow is interrupted. You CAN turn this
"feature" off, but the guy told me you can only do this temporarily
by downloading firmware to the drive, and only after it's been on
for 2 hours. After recording your sounds tape then, you have to
turn this thermo recalibration back on.
3) What someone else told me
I talked to a few friends, and one of them said that other drives have
this feature, but you can disable it safely either with a jumper or
with downloading firmware at startup. The Maxtor guy said that these
Maxtor drives spun SO fast that it was NOT safe to disable the
recalibration.
4) What this might mean
I asked him if ALL their drives did this, and he said "yes". After
describing my problem to him, he replied that I should get another
drive, as the Maxtors were not designed for what I wanted to do. I
asked him "what are you going to do for people who want to do
real-time digital video or sound?" His response was that those people
were a small enough part of the market that they didn't have to
support them.
5) Any ideas?
I'm going to take back my drive. Hopefully I can get my money back.
For other people with Maxtor drives, know that this is a problem. In
fact, there may be some other solution someone knows, in which case,
please enlighten me. For the rest of you. Forget Maxtor if you're
going to do sound playback.
Sorry to use up bandwidth with this letter, but I think it may affect
more than a few people on the net. Please write back to me, and I'll
post a summary to the net.
Thanks for you help
Sean Varah
******************************************************************************
"it's not music if no one wants to listen to it"
Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, ta-sav2@cunixa.columbia.edu
******************************************************************************
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Recommended Monitors for NeXTSTEP
Date: 1 Oct 1993 16:40:46 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <28if5u$ntg@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
References: <ZR440B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>
In article <ZR440B1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com>,
Dave Lowens <davel@mindvox.phantom.com> wrote:
>
>About 2 weeks ago I posted a message indicating that our company would be
>purchasing roughly 35 new systems for the express purpose of running NeXTSTEP
>on them and asked for opinions regarding which monitors would best suit our
>needs at the 17" and 21" sizes, assuming quality and not cost was our
>priority.
>
[deleted]
>
>17" Monitors - Discouraged
>
>Dell UltraScan (Mitsubishi DiamondScan Pro 17") *Strongly Discouraged*
>Nec 5FGe
>Mag and Viewsoniq models (Mixed reviews, mostly negative)
>
>
[deleted]
>
>21" Monitors - Discouraged
>
>NEC 6FG series
>Viewsoniq
>Mag
>
>
so what's with the negative on the viewsonic? It's spelled viewsoniq,
is that supposed to be viewsonic?
I was going to buy a viewsonice 17", as it's gotten excellent reviews and
is cheaper than some of them...
I thought it was in a completely different class than Mag...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: aylwin@taos.ictv.com (Aylwin Stewart)
Subject: B/W monitor cable
Message-ID: <1993Oct1.231020.11255@ictv.com>
Sender: usenet@ictv.com
Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 23:10:20 GMT
Can anyone tell me if these cable are shielded, and if
the pins go straight through. If you know the pins don't
go straight through what is their relationship ? I picked
up a machine at the auction, and don't really want to pay
$70 for a half meter cable.
Aylwin Stewart
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Maxtor MXT1200S Drive + Sound playback = Bad News
Date: 1 Oct 1993 23:55:57 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28ig2dINNrpo@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
In <28icfr$dft@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, sav3@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah) writes:
> I called tech support (800) 2MAXTOR, and the guy told me that with
> these new very high speed drives (the disk spins at something like
> 6300 RPM), in order to maintain data integrity, every 5 minutes the
> drive must recalibrate the heads (some kind of re-alignment), This
> takes 200 milleseconds, but in that time it needs to clear its
> 256K buffer to do a few read/write tests. The end result is that
> every 5 minutes, your data flow is interrupted. You CAN turn this
> "feature" off, but the guy told me you can only do this temporarily
> by downloading firmware to the drive, and only after it's been on
> for 2 hours. After recording your sounds tape then, you have to
> turn this thermo recalibration back on.
The feature to which you refer is TCAL, or thermal calibration. Byte had
a sidebar about it a couple issues back in their review of large disk
drives. If I remember right, they measured its effects on a few, and
published the results. I don't seem to recall any of the ones they looked at
being as bad as yours. The reason you have to wait 2 hr. to disable TCAL
is because that is about how long it takes the system to get sufficiently
close to thermal equilibrium that thermal effects (read: e-x-p-a-n-s-i-o-n)
no longer cause misalignment problems. It's not just Maxtor, BTW: my
understanding is that _all_ hard drives do TCAL. Evidently, some take
a more polished approach to it than others. If I recall correctly, there
are a couple drives out there that do TCAL one head at a time, and therefore
generate more frequent but less severe interruptions.
Since audio data is more or less continuous from end to end (i.e.
there are no unpredictable "forks" in the data stream), it _should_ be
possible to simply prefetch and buffer enough data in system memory to
avoid getting hosed by TCAL. Maxtor isn't the only culprit here: it sounds
like MickeySoft and the application designer biffed it as well...
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Patrick Chase - I speak for myself, not H-P
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby)
Subject: Re: Are you using any of: DELL, Epson, Intel, Data General with NS?
Message-ID: <1993Sep30.195537.11923@ToTSySSoft.com>
Sender: news@ToTSySSoft.com
Organization: Total System Software
References: <thompsonCE3JpM.Jw8@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 19:55:37 GMT
In article <thompsonCE3JpM.Jw8@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
writes:
> The company I work for is considering purchasing NEXTSTEP workstations.
> The four that are currently under consideration are the Data General,
> Epson, Intel, and Dell 486 machines .. basically the configurations
> that were listed in the NeXTWORLD developer machine review. (If there
> is another better machine out there, we're open to it.)
>
> Basically, if you are USING any of these, I would like to know what
> you think. Are any of them really awful at anything? Are any of them
> awesome? Why?
>
> Like everyone, we're trying to get the best performance for the money,
> and considering that we're not developers I would tend to lean toward
> fast video and lots of RAM. If you have any suggestions or comments
> regarding Intel-based machines you have, I would be glad to hear it.
>
> Thanks! -- and I will summarize.
>
> Eric Thompson
> thompson@netcom.com
I don't know which of these would be best, but you might want to take a look at
the new IBM they are talking about in advocacy.. If NeXTStep works on it, I
don't see how it can be beat.
any one can beat it
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano)
Subject: Re: ATI graphics cards: 3 vs 6
Message-ID: <1993Oct1.233111.21843@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <jonesc.93Oct18577@tsunami>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 23:31:11 GMT
jonesc@tsunami.intel.com writes
>
> I know how to tell the difference between the rev3 and rev6 on the Pro/GX machines (on-board ATI Mach32) which use the same chip as the Mach32 cards. So, on the Mach32 chip there should be a row of numbers (first or second row) something like: 2X
XX68800X. The last 'X' should be the revision number... for example: 2200688003 would be a revision 3 chip. I havn't actually looked at a VL-bus card to make sure this is true, so someone else can confirm.
>
>
> Cory Jones
> jonesc@tsunami.intel.com
I looked in our LocalBus ATI card and it has the same numbering scheme (ours looks like a rev6 chip... :-) Not running yet so I cannot comment on performance.
-- Fernando
Fernando Lopez Lezcano
nando@ccrma.stanford.edu
From: rvargas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: power supply question..
Date: 1 Oct 1993 18:14:48 -0600
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Sender: root@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28ih5o$29qq@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>
Any one know how to turn on the power supply of a Nextstation without the use of the motherboard?
please e-mail me at:
rvargas@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx
Thanks for your help.
Attn:
rALFF
From: ponchy_c@anion.epita.fr (cedric ponchy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra VLBUS for sale
Date: 1 Oct 1993 23:29:56 GMT
Organization: Epita (French Computer Science school)
Sender: ponchy_c@anion (cedric ponchy)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28iehk$dah@boson.epita.fr>
References: <1993Oct1.085852.9524@sfc.keio.ac.jp>
I found a little company in France who can supply ATI Ultra Pro Mach 32 VLB
cards. It costs me $480 plus shipping. Anyone who is interested can contact
them at : Fabien_Roy@free.fr
voice: (33) 1 40 40 02 06
fax: (33) 1 40 40 06 41
(mails preferred, NeXTMail welcome)
--
Cedric "ponpon" PONCHY //\\Oo//\\
"to be or not to be? Not to be..." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
e-mail: ponpon@free.fr (NeXTMail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: DEC S3 928 Driver problem, installing NEXTSTEP in general
Message-ID: <1993Oct2.024856.18112@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 02:48:56 GMT
I just lost my virginity and built a system with NEXTSTEP/FIP. A rather
painful experience, if you'll pardon the pun.
NEXTSTEP/FIP 3.1 chokes and dies on 1024/byte HD sectors. Oh swell, I
had to find another disk at 2 AM. Fortunately, a NSTC just died and I
borrowed it's 406 MB Seagate ;-) How does one change a 1024/byte HD back
to 512/byte sectors?
The S3 928 card only had 1 MB, so I thought I could use 800x600x16 bit color
mode. Nope. Configure let me set that mode, but during the boot there was
a diagnostic about NEXTSTEP not accepting that mode, and it changed to
1024x768x8 bit at 60 MHz! What gives? I did install the newest driver. 60
MHz is terrible compared to 70/72 MHz modes.
The DEC MTE system benchmarks well. It feels OK.
Pretty unfortunate installation experience overall, definitely
reaffirms my black hardware bigotry, but we all have to move forward,
don't we?
Can't wait for the HP port. Have 735, will fly...
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: Third serial port on NSFIP machine
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 22:08:44 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Oct1.220844.4951@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
References: <1993Sep23.181845.19244@news.yale.edu>
Keywords: serial, NSFIP
jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu writes:
>I was wondering...is it at all possible to configure white hardware to
>have more than two serial ports?
I edited the Instance0.table to see if another instance of the driver could
talk to an arbitrary Third port on some arbitrary Interrupts then mknod. Tip
even opened into the port. Soon as I typed a character `boom', reverse video
and a reboot shortly afterwards ...
Lovely OS, change a Text File, and watch the machine crash :-)
>The hardware compatibility sheet said only com 1 and 2 are available.
I believe that NS/FIP can ONLY handle two ports, it probably allocates an
internal table of 2 in length ... not much can be done without `replacement'.
Has anyone had any luck taking a BSD based serial port driver and linking
it into the Kernel (ya know, loadable driver modules)? Has anyone had any
luck with the DriverKit in NS/FIP with serial ports? I have a 8530 board
(Ottawa PI Card), one with a DMA channel on it, and I would be interested in
anyone that has a driver that works under NS/FIP that I could hack to work
with this board as well. I also have a DigiBoard 4 (Old Style, not AST
compatible) that I would just love to get it's 16550s singing with NeXTSTEP,
if I don't get satisfaction soon, I may end up buying a RTU contract with my
domain holder for BSDi which I know works with both of these cards `fine' ...
(I am waiting patiently for my 3.2 upgrade before I make some swift moves).
Anyone that has written hardware drivers for NS/FIP care to hold my hand?
>However I have a modem in one and a serial
>mouse in another and am thinking of getting a UPS in the future. Is there
>any solution besides buying a bus mouse and freeing the mouse's serial port?
At $90CAN for a Logitec Bus Mouse (Microsoft Bus Mouse doesn't work ...),
I'd say it's a pretty expensive way of getting one more serial line to
play with!
>Later,
>Jon
NO, NOW, RIGHT NOW. THIS GOHD DAMNED MOMENT! :-)
Ciao -- Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!cusa!magnusson!kris (Kristopher Magnusson)
Subject: Re: DECpc NSI machine and Kris Magnusson's Email
Message-ID: <1993Sep30.051021.3535@magnusson.uucp>
Sender: kris@magnusson.uucp
Organization: Salt Lake area NeXT Group
References: <149839@netnews.upenn.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 05:10:21 GMT
In article <149839@netnews.upenn.edu> joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe
Panico) writes:
|
| Hi,
|
| Is the DECpc 466 mentioned in the computer shopper the same as the
| "DECpc 466 MTE-d2 w/S3-805" listed in the NSI hardware compatability
| guide? Also, is the S3 driver upgrade yet available? Is anyone running
| NSI in 1024x768 8bit color on this hardware platform (without problems)?
| Any information much appreciated.
|
| Finally,
|
| KRIS MAGNUSSON! I would love to hear what you think is the best
| bang for the buck platform for NSI, but my e-mail to you bounced!
| Do you have an e-mail address that is accessible from our .edu domain?
|
|
| Thanks.
|
| Joe Panico
| joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Yes!
Try sending mail to: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu
hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!cusa!neb!magnusson!kris
patrick@nightingale.nurs.utah.edu
If that doesn't work just try calling me at 801/268-8877, my work number.
If anyone else sends me mail saying that they've tried to reach me via email
and failed, I can get Alpine to expedite my full-time T1 net connection.
Believe me, I'm acutely aware of problems reaching me on the net.
Thanks!
Kris
--
Kris Magnusson <hellgate!uplherc!cusa!neb!magnusson!kris> Alpine Computing -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#import <salespitchforcloneEpsonIntelDECALRASTCompaqNECHPandwrittenguarantee.h>
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"I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous." --Marvin Gardner
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: tim@ursidae.demon.co.uk (Tim Bissell)
Subject: Re: Any interest in 68040 accelerators?
Organization: Retentive (analysts) Ltd.
References: <1993Sep28.211002.3576@drefla.mese.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 20:38:36 +0000
Message-ID: <CE8K0D.11G@ursidae.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
In article <1993Sep28.211002.3576@drefla.mese.com> matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt) writes:
>Is there any interest out there in a Nitro style 68040 accelerator? Something
>like a 40Mhz 68040 with a 128K cache? This would provide a pretty nice boost
>for the 25Mhz slabs out there but probably not quite so much for Turbo slabs.
Ahhhh... finally some sense. That is why 68040s on later Turbos were
socketed. The Nitro system was going to be available as a card that
plugged into the '040 socket, had up to 256K cache and a 50MHz 68040
on it. Voila! At least 2x the turbo performance for a reaonable sum.
Anyone still got the plans?....
--
Tim Bissell | tim@ursidae.demon.co.uk DoD # 174
Retentive Limited |
+44 480 451022 | NeXT Developer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Large, high-resolution greyscale monitors for 80x86 computers
Message-ID: <1993Oct1.152435.21977@rosevax.rosemount.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Sender: news@rosevax.rosemount.com (Rosevax USENET News auto-admin account)
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
References: <scratch.748909908@sundance.sce.carleton.ca>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 15:24:35 GMT
Craig Scratchley (scratch@sce.carleton.ca) wrote:
: As indicated in my previous post, here is a summary of what I
: have received about large, high-resolution monochrome (greyscale)
: monitors that can attach to cards such as the ATI Ultra Pro or
: the Compaq Qvision.
[Nano / Eizo stuff ]
: That's about it. Another suggestion was buying a monitor from a
: decomissioned IBM RT from the Canadian government and using a VGA
: to BNC adapter cable.
Does anybody know the specs for IBM 8507? All I can tell from ads is
it's a 19" mono monitor for PS/2 systems. They are pretty cheap,
under $300, so they probably aren't much more than 800x600.
--
Grant Edwards |Yow! Everywhere I look I see
Rosemount Inc. |NEGATIVITY and ASPHALT...
|
grante@rosemount.com |
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Uninterruptible Power Supply
Date: 2 Oct 1993 03:15:43 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <28irov$3v5@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <sgeruXS00WB6N8Ewpy@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <sgeruXS00WB6N8Ewpy@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-Sep-93 Uninterruptible
>Power Supply by Josh Tenenberg@cs.roches
>> stable. In addition, I back up my work frequently. If I do get
>> a UPS, it only gives me 5 minutes. I assume that this is so that I
>> can shut things down carefully. Are there programs that I can get
>> (what/where?) that will do this automatically?
>
>As far as I know, there aren't any such programs available. What is
>available is something that will pop up a big warning screen when the
>power goes out so that you can save your work yourself.
My Stedi-LANding software shuts down the system automatically after a
configurable amount of time. Should the battery reserve be incapable of
keeping the system up for this amount of time, automatic shutdown begins when
the battery voltage drops below a certain level. In addition, there are voice
and panel alerts that warn twice of an impending shutdown so that users of
attended machines can log off in an orderly fashion. And there is even a
script that is executed as part of the shutdown process so that one can specify
the execution of various utilities before shutdown although I've never tried
this feature. Seems that all UPS software should have at least these
capabilities.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Do most black printers choke on envelopes frequently?
Message-ID: <CE8Kun.6K@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 20:56:47 GMT
my NeXT laser printer gets jammed when printing envelopes more
often than not.
it rarely has a problem printing paper or transparencies.
do other people have this problem?
is it a sign that the printer is going to go soon?
does it really matter whether you choose manual or cassettte?
if most black printers don't have this problem, I'm thinking of
changing the little gear to see if that helps. if its standard
NeXT behavior, then I wont bother.
thanks in advance.
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: bryant@math.duke.edu (Robt Bryant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Serial Connections between my NeXTStation and my SE30?
Summary: serial kermit se30 nextstation
Keywords: serial kermit se30 nextstation
Message-ID: <21349@news.duke.edu>
Date: 2 Oct 93 18:29:47 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Followup-To: (none)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept of Math, Duke Univ, Durham, NC, USA
Hi folks,
Pardon me if this is in a FAQ somewhere. If it is, then
would some kind soul point out to me where it is?
I have an SE30 and a NeXTStation sitting side by side
and would like to be able to pass data between them without having
to save it on a floppy and mount that floppy on the other machine.
(I am running NS3.0 on the NeXT.) I know that they both have
serial ports and have a version of kermit running on each.
Is it possible to connect their serial ports by a standard serial
cable, launch kermit on each (after specifying the proper settings
etc.), and then use kermit to do file transfers?
Assuming that this hardware configuration works, is there
a better software solution than kermit? What is the greatest
speed that I can use? Has anyone actually done this?
Any advice would be appreciated. Really.
Yours,
Robert Bryant
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: root@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca (The Master of Disaster)
Subject: Help with 3C509 Ethernet
Organization: "Alchemy Mindworks"
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 15:41:59 GMT
Message-ID: <CEA0y0.GqJ@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>
I have a 3C509 card in my machine and it panics every time I get lots
of network activity. It does not matter what utility (telnet, ftp, nfs-mount)
I run, if I generate a lot of traffic the box dies. Anyone else found
this?
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dennis Breckenridge Microsoft Windoze. Genetic throwback from the
dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca natural selection of UNIX.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Subject: Re: Are you using any of: DELL, Epson, Intel, Data General with NS?
Message-ID: <chris.749592292@vincent2.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
References: <thompsonCE3JpM.Jw8@netcom.com> <1993Sep30.195537.11923@ToTSySSoft.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 20:04:52 GMT
In <1993Sep30.195537.11923@ToTSySSoft.com> rick@TotSysSoft.com (Richard Jacoby) writes:
>In article <thompsonCE3JpM.Jw8@netcom.com> thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
>writes:
>> Basically, if you are USING any of these, I would like to know what
>> you think. Are any of them really awful at anything? Are any of them
>> awesome? Why?
>> and considering that we're not developers I would tend to lean toward
>> fast video and lots of RAM. If you have any suggestions or comments
>> regarding Intel-based machines you have, I would be glad to hear it.
I'm using Dell 450DE/2 DGX which has the best graphic performance
(even better than Epson Progression.)
This machine is the primary machine NeXT port NS too.
It's a EISA machine. So, you can get a EISA SCSI controller such as
DPT 201X or 202X to increase the disk performance.
>I don't know which of these would be best, but you might want to take a look at
>the new IBM they are talking about in advocacy.. If NeXTStep works on it, I
>don't see how it can be beat.
>any one can beat it
What's that new IBM?
--
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Subject: Re: Wanted: NeXT Floppy drive
Message-ID: <chris.749593362@vincent2.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
References: <28hg99$2he@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 20:22:42 GMT
In <28hg99$2he@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) writes:
>This is a post to try and find the guy who was selling the NeXT floppy
>drive for $100.00. If you are still out there I am interested. Could
>you mail to me?
Can I use that drive under Intel machine?
If it can be used under NS/FIP, I want it toooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT to Mac by Serial Line (was Re: Serial Connections...)
Message-ID: <28lnls$8l@scratchy.reed.edu>
Date: 3 Oct 93 05:24:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: scratchy.28lnls$8l
References: <21349@news.duke.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
In article <21349@news.duke.edu> bryant@math.duke.edu (Robt Bryant) writes:
> I have an SE30 and a NeXTStation sitting side by side
> and would like to be able to pass data between them without having
[ ... ]
> Assuming that this hardware configuration works, is there
> a better software solution than kermit? What is the greatest
> speed that I can use? Has anyone actually done this?
> Any advice would be appreciated. Really.
I move files from our three cubes to a Mac II via Xmodem transfer protocol. I
run Red Ryder (Shareware or PD) on the Macintosh and a UNIX script on the NeXT
(send me email at rseymour@metaresearch.com if you want a copy). I haven't had
a problem yet. It's faster if you tar and compress the files first, but you
don't have to.
As for speed, the NeXT serial port is supposed to be able to handle 57.6k/s,
but the Macintosh doesn't go anywhere near that. Usual transfer rates are in
the 19-23k/s range (I think, but I might be mixing this up with MNP5 or V.42bis
modem transfer rates). Unless you have really large files, it doesn't take
terribly long.
--
Robert Seymour rseymour@reed.edu
NeXTSTEP developer, Metaresearch Inc. rseymour@metaresearch.com
Artificial Life Project (NeXTmail Accepted at Both)
Philosophy & Economics, Reed College Portland, Oregon
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From: hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!cusa!magnusson!kris (Kristopher Magnusson)
Subject: Re: Gateway ATI Hardware
Message-ID: <1993Oct2.165411.2361@magnusson.uucp>
Sender: kris@magnusson.uucp
Organization: Salt Lake area NeXT Group
References: <28e1d1$boe@scratchy.reed.edu>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 16:54:11 GMT
THE NEW DRAM ATI CARD DOESN'T WORK WITH NEXTSTEP!!! DON'T BUY IT!!!
Wait for the VRAM version to come out. That's what we're waiting for at Alpine
to fill a bunch of backordered cards. We may substitute S3-928 if ATI takes
much longer to fill their huge backorder.
Kris
In article <28e1d1$boe@scratchy.reed.edu> rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
writes:
| Be forewarned that both the XLR and LX systems use DRAM graphics memory
instead
| of VRAM. I would suggest avoiding any system that does not use a linear
VRAM
| frame buffer, as NeXTSTEP makes large demands on your graphic subsystem and
| requires a linear buffer or emulation thereof. Matrox MGA, Weitek Power
9000,
| and S3-928 are the best (IMHO) chipsets, though currently none are
supported on
| PCI.
|
| However, it is my understanding that the XLR and LX (I'm not sure on the
LX)
| use the ATI 68800 chipset, so they should be supportable with a minimum of
| effort if not with the current drivers. You should check with NeXT to make
sure
| that they are supporting the cards on PCI. I wouldn't be surprised if NeXT
has
| written the drivers specifically for the ATI Ultra and/or Ultra Pro on VESA
and
| EISA only, in which case you will need a different driver.
|
| --
| Robert Seymour rseymour@reed.edu
| NeXTSTEP developer, Metaresearch Inc. rseymour@metaresearch.com
| Artificial Life Project (NeXTmail Accepted at Both)
| Philosophy & Economics, Reed College Portland, Oregon
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From: Jim_Brownfield@radical.com (Jim Brownfield)
Subject: Re: Do most black printers choke on envelopes frequently?
Message-ID: <1993Oct3.073522.24525@Radical.Com>
Sender: jbrow@Radical.Com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <CE8Kun.6K@genoa.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 07:35:22 GMT
Alex Blakemore writes
> my NeXT laser printer gets jammed when printing envelopes more
> often than not.
I generally find that when I print envelopes, I have to push the envelope a
little bit to get it to feed properly. I also always had to do this with Apple
laserwriters. If I don't give it a push, it jams pretty often.
--
Jim Brownfield (Jim_Brownfield@Radical.Com) NeXTmail accepted
Radical System Solutions, Inc.
rad i cal \'rad-i-kel\ n -- a basic principle: FOUNDATION
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 486DX @ 50 w/ATI Ultra Pro VLB - does it work?
Date: 3 Oct 1993 13:54:12 +0200
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28meh4$9ha@cc.tut.fi>
Someone told me that some older VLB boards does not work with
DX50 machine, because the speed of the boards is limited to
40 MHz. I'm thinking of buying a 486DX @ 50 MHz / 3 VLB + ATI
ultra pro VLB. Is there anybody out there using this combination?
Does it work? Is it FAST? Should I consider DX2 @ 66 MHz?
--
Juha Tuominen NeXTMail talks and disk drive walks
Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
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From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko 403-266-0900)
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca
Message-ID: <CE9zr1.7pF@cuug.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 15:16:12 GMT
References: <28ekh4$6s0@nova.umd.edu> <28f2f1$m2e@cnn.sim.es.com>
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
I think the problem that everyone is experiencing is with the ATI driver and
not so much with their monitors. The new ATI drivers seem to support several
new modes, but how well is still questionalble. I only use refreshes higher
that 60Hz in all cases (except when not supported). Here are the results from
my setup in case anyone is concerned that it's their machine, it's probably
the driver:
mode result
---- --------
1024x768x8 72Hz excellent
1024x768x8 76Hz excellent
1024x768x16 72Hz excellent
1024x768x16 76Hz excellent
1120x832x8 68Hz excellent
1120x832x16 68Hz fine as long as you don't move any windows around
sparkle lines appear on the left of the viewing area
when moving windows
1280x1024x8 60Hz excellent (but 60Hz is not optimal for extended use,
can the ATI be boosted to say 68Hz?)
These tests were run on a Gateway 66V, ATI GUP VESA 2MB, Seiko CM1760LR
monitor (the monitor has no problem keeping up with what the ATI can give it).
So when are we going to see update #2 for the ATI drivers?
Tim
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Date: 3 Oct 1993 13:53:48 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <28mlhc$slj@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <28ekh4$6s0@nova.umd.edu> <28f2f1$m2e@cnn.sim.es.com> <CE9zr1.7pF@cuug.ab.ca>
In article <CE9zr1.7pF@cuug.ab.ca>,
Tim Wasko 403-266-0900 <twasko@cuug.ab.ca> wrote:
>I think the problem that everyone is experiencing is with the ATI driver and
>not so much with their monitors. The new ATI drivers seem to support several
> [Misc deleted]
>
>mode result
>---- --------
>1120x832x16 68Hz fine as long as you don't move any windows around
> sparkle lines appear on the left of the viewing area
> when moving windows
>
You need the rev-6 chips to use this mode. The ATI Ultra Pro uses
rev 3 chips. What Gateway sells as the XLR uses rev 6 chips and
works fine at this mode, which to be fair isn't listed in the release ntoes.
>
>So when are we going to see update #2 for the ATI drivers?
>
If the fault is with the ATI chips, changing the drivers won't help.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
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From: garyc@netcom.com (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: Apple 300 CD-ROM drive for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <garycCEBuxE.6H1@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 15:27:14 GMT
Hi,
Can someone verify for me whether Apple 300 SCSI CD-ROM drive(CDU-541)
works with Black NeXT hardware or not? The NeXT CD-ROM drive is a CDU-541,
SONY. What about the compatibility with CDPlayer.app, does it detect the
music CD or NeXT CD when it is inserted into the player?
Thanks for your info.
Gary :-)
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From: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: Apple 300 CD-ROM drive for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <CEByxy.JK@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <garycCEBuxE.6H1@netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 16:53:57 GMT
Gary I. Chang writes
> Can someone verify for me whether Apple 300 SCSI CD-ROM drive(CDU-541)
> works with Black NeXT hardware or not?
yes, just fine
> What about the compatibility with CDPlayer.app, does it detect the
> music CD or NeXT CD when it is inserted into the player?
yes, at least as well as CDPlayer.app works with any drive
it also is double speed, warrantied, has speaker output, and
handles multisession photo CDs.
P.S. Radio shack sells some nice black mini self amplified speakers
that look great with a black computer
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
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From: jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Message-ID: <1993Oct3.212800.18676@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
References: <28ekh4$6s0@nova.umd.edu> <28f2f1$m2e@cnn.sim.es.com> <CE9zr1.7pF@cuug.ab.ca>
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 21:28:00 GMT
In article <CE9zr1.7pF@cuug.ab.ca> twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko 403-266-0900) writes:
>I think the problem that everyone is experiencing is with the ATI driver and
>not so much with their monitors. The new ATI drivers seem to support several
>new modes, but how well is still questionalble. I only use refreshes higher
>that 60Hz in all cases (except when not supported). Here are the results from
>my setup in case anyone is concerned that it's their machine, it's probably
>the driver:
>
>mode result
>---- --------
>1024x768x8 72Hz excellent
>1024x768x8 76Hz excellent
>1024x768x16 72Hz excellent
>1024x768x16 76Hz excellent
>
>1120x832x8 68Hz excellent
^^^^^^^^^
I wouldn't go so far as to call this mode excellent...pretty good, but not
excellent. I still get the same sort of flickery lines on the left edge of
the screen as with the 1120x832x16 mode, though far less pronounced.
>1120x832x16 68Hz fine as long as you don't move any windows around
> sparkle lines appear on the left of the viewing area
> when moving windows
Supposedly, this goes away with a new rev. 6 card, though I would feel
badly about selling off a 2 month old card just to find out.
>
>1280x1024x8 60Hz excellent (but 60Hz is not optimal for extended use,
> can the ATI be boosted to say 68Hz?)
Runs at 72Hz at 1280x1024x8 under windoze, so it should just be a driver
thing.
>
>These tests were run on a Gateway 66V, ATI GUP VESA 2MB, Seiko CM1760LR
>monitor (the monitor has no problem keeping up with what the ATI can give it).
>
Mine is a clone with a ATI GUP VLB and a Viewsonic 17 monitor.
>So when are we going to see update #2 for the ATI drivers?
I want them NOW! I want them YESTERDAY!!
>
>Tim
Later,
Jon
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: SUMMARY (My clock is running late [black hardware])
Message-ID: <1993Oct3.074825.1467@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 07:48:25 GMT
|> I'm running a NeXTstation 25MHz and have noticed the clock is running
|> considerably late (well, at least 10 minutes a year, probably more).
|>
|> Is this normal behaviour or a fault?
|>
|> Can I do anything about it?
|>
|> Does anybody know whether this is a crystal or a line frequency driven
|> circuit?
1. Every respondent had the same problem. This leads me to the conclusion
that it's "normal" behaviour.
2. There are several fixes, unfortunately none is a general solution.
a) for those who have a running LAN, they can enable >timed< to take care
of the clock. IMHO it will only work if not all of the participating
systems are NeXTs; if all machines are late the average is still late!
b) you can synchronize with a time standard like NIST or PTB (Germany).
NIST is available throug a modem service(long distance!) and PTB transmits
its signal through long wave radio (DCF77). Unfortunately, both methods
generate considerable cost (for repeated long distance calls or for the
special receiver).
In short: most of us will fire up preferences and reset the time manually
every once in a wile.
No final answer on the inner workings, thus no definitive answer on
hardware fixes :-(
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: jlf@decatl.alf.dec.com (Jeff Finkelstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: installation problems - intr dropped IRQ
Date: 4 Oct 1993 00:32:56 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Atlanta Customer Support Center
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28nqvo$91i@netnews.alf.dec.com>
References: <28h890$e6@netnews.alf.dec.com>
In case anyone was interested in the problem I was running into installing
NS/FIP I finally solved it. Last night whilst trying it again I ended up
getting so frustrated took the CD out of the case and layed it on the floor
while I once again checked the connections. My bassett hound decided that the
CD looked tasty and proceeded to slobber on it. I took the CD and like any
red-blooded male who has the intelligence of a rock, I put it in the dishwasher
to clean it up (kids, do not try this at home ;-)
When it came out I decided to try the install once again. It Worked !! I must
have had some grease on the disk that kept bombing out the install.
Thanks to all who replied.
--
jeff finkelstein | "Imagination is more important than
jlf@alf.dec.com | knowledge."
digital equipment corporation | - Albert Einstein
customer support center |
From: jlf@decatl.alf.dec.com (Jeff Finkelstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: S3-924?
Date: 4 Oct 1993 00:38:51 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Atlanta Customer Support Center
Message-ID: <28nrar$91i@netnews.alf.dec.com>
Sorry if this is a FAQ, but does anyone know of any work being done to get a
driver for the S3-924 working with NS/FIP? I have a system with an on-board
S3-924 with 1MB VRAM and I would *llloovvveee* to be able to use it in
any mode that has color. Of course, I would rather run NS/FIP in monochrome
than most other OS's in full color, but, it is tough on these tired old eyes.
--
jeff finkelstein | "Imagination is more important than
jlf@alf.dec.com | knowledge."
digital equipment corporation | - Albert Einstein
customer support center |
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 486DX @ 50 w/ATI Ultra Pro VLB - does it work?
Date: 4 Oct 1993 01:09:05 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28nt3h$hrv@scratchy.reed.edu>
References: <28meh4$9ha@cc.tut.fi>
In article <28meh4$9ha@cc.tut.fi> t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
writes:
> Someone told me that some older VLB boards does not work with
> DX50 machine, because the speed of the boards is limited to
> 40 MHz. I'm thinking of buying a 486DX @ 50 MHz / 3 VLB + ATI
> ultra pro VLB. Is there anybody out there using this combination?
> Does it work? Is it FAST? Should I consider DX2 @ 66 MHz?
The only reason to get a 50MHz i486DX over a 66/33MHz i486DX/2 is for intensive
I/O use. This would include, most notably, servers and some specialized systems
for intesive motion video work (though if you need this kind of throughput for
video, you should just by an SGI and do it right). VESA has standardized the
use of VL/B (VESA VL-Bus local bus system) up to a speed of 40MHz, but some
implementations can be driven faster. I have heard of several cards and boards
that can be put up to 50MHz, but I don't know the specifics on what all is
entailed in doing this (consider this a rumor, as I haven't seen and tried it
myself).
Unless you really need the I/O performance, get a DX/2. The motherboards are a
good deal cheaper and do not require very high speed DRAM/SRAM to maintain no
wait states on main memory and fast cache access (2-1-1-1 or 3-1-1-1; which is
considerable better than the NeXTstation Turbo system's 5-1-1-1). If you really
need to use a 50MHz i486DX, then start hunting for I/O cards that can be driven
at 50MHz (decide what you would like on VL/B [graphics, fast/wide SCSI-II,
RAID, FDDI/ISDN, motion video I/O, etc.].
Don't purchase a system (or components thereof) until you have determined that
you can set up a bus at 50MHz. I would also suggest that you make sure the
system can handled bus mastered DMA, if you need the I/O this badly, it would
be foolish not to have multiple DMA. Also purchase a *large* and fast secondary
cache (512K-1MB at 10-15ns), chances are most of your throughput will be in
burst mode. Otherwise, stick with the 66MHz i486DX/2.
--
Robert Seymour rseymour@reed.edu
NeXTSTEP developer, Metaresearch Inc. rseymour@metaresearch.com
Artificial Life Project (NeXTmail Accepted at Both)
Philosophy & Economics, Reed College Portland, Oregon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Inexpensive Intel Hardware Recommendations
Message-ID: <CECL98.2JD@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 00:55:55 GMT
A client of ours needs an evaluation 486 to run NS with some custom software
from us. Now we usually use Intel GX systems, but in this case they are a bit
too expensive and offer more than is needed.
What we are looking for is a system that costs $2.5-$2.8K and features:
16MB Ram
340MB IDE Drive
1024x768 gray scale (8bit)
Decent keyboard and mouse
15" monitor
and most of all works with NS
We have no trouble building our own system if I know what mother boards work
with NS. So has anyone been able to put such a system together?
The Gateway 2/50V would be such a system, but they only offer the DRAM version
of the "new" GUP (LX) so they are out of the running.
Thanks,
--
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Message-ID: <jlemonCECtCu.Cs3@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <28ekh4$6s0@nova.umd.edu> <28f2f1$m2e@cnn.sim.es.com> <CE9zr1.7pF@cuug.ab.ca>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 03:50:53 GMT
In article <CE9zr1.7pF@cuug.ab.ca> twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko 403-266-0900) writes:
>I think the problem that everyone is experiencing is with the ATI driver and
>not so much with their monitors.
Definitely true. I have a NEC 5FG, which has enough bandwidth to support
1280x1024@70 Hz.
>1120x832x16 68Hz fine as long as you don't move any windows around
> sparkle lines appear on the left of the viewing area
> when moving windows
Same here. Another poster mentioned something about rev 3 vs rev 6 chips
on the ATI board but:
- hey, it works under windows. :-)
- aren't the rev 6 chips only on the DRAM-style boards, which
supposedly have problems of their own?
Also, how come the 68/60 Hz at higher resolutions? What's wrong with
70/72/76 Hz options, since the board (and some monitors) can support it?
*whine* *whine* *whine*
>So when are we going to see update #2 for the ATI drivers?
And will it make it into 3.2?
--
Jonathan
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From: eric@whyanext.com (Eric Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Do most black printers choke on envelopes frequently?
Message-ID: <CED4zJ.Ju4@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
References: <1993Oct3.073522.24525@Radical.Com>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 08:02:06 GMT
Jim Brownfield writes
> Alex Blakemore writes
> > my NeXT laser printer gets jammed when printing envelopes more
> > often than not.
>
> I generally find that when I print envelopes, I have to push the
envelope a
> little bit to get it to feed properly. I also always had to do this
with Apple
> laserwriters. If I don't give it a push, it jams pretty often.
I used to always stand over the printer and the envelope a push too, but
then I discovered that if you just give it a push _into_ the paper path
before you start printing (so that you feel the end of the envelope get
"pinched" a bit), it rarely jams. At least for the envelopes I use.
Eric
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Viewsonic 17" (v7 or v17) anyone
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Date: 4 Oct 1993 03:00:26 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <28os7q$93e@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
I am about to buy either a viewsonic v17 or v7.
I bet if I could get several people together then we could get a
discount.
Anyone interested?
-nick kline
kline@cs.arizona.edu
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From: jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu ()
Subject: How do the ATI cards compare?
Message-ID: <1993Oct4.130726.12585@news.yale.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Originator: jont@minerva
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 13:07:26 GMT
Has anyone had experience with both the revision 6 and 3 ATI GUP cards
under NSFIP? If so, how do they compare in speed, etc. I am considering
upgrading my rev. 3 card to a rev. 6 card, primarily to take advantage of
the higher supported resolutions, but am wondering whether it'll be worth
the expense.
Thanks,
Jon
--
Jonathan Traupman | .:'''''':.
PO Box 3124 Yale Station | : : "Nuke the whales"
New Haven, CT 06520-3124 | ''':'':''' I hate PC...
jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu | -:--:- ...both types
From: neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Using HP DeskWriter on Black hardware
Date: 4 Oct 93 12:31:51 GMT
Organization: IGD Darmstadt
Message-ID: <neuss.749737911@ramazzotti>
References: <CE73q4.B7B@csn.org>
erik@csn.org (Erik Mugele) writes:
>I have an HP DeskWriter (for the macintosh, not the HP DeskJet 5xx) that
>I would like to use with my black slab. What will it take in the way
>of hardware/software to make the DeskWriter work with my black hardware?
>Is it even possible?
Hm.. I didn't do this myself, but perhaps I can give you some pointers.
As far as I know (ask your computer dealer for verification), the difference
between the DeskWriter and the DeskJet ist that the DeskWriter has an
RS 422 interface and a different cable. Since your black NeXT machine
has RS422 output, this should be no problem. The first thing you should
check out is attaching the printer to a serial port, setting an appropriate
baud rate, stop bits and other stuff using the stty command, and simply
try to output a couple of bytes. If this works, get the djf_for_3.0.tar.Z
package from the archives, e.g. sonata.cc.purdue.edu. It should work
without any modifications.
Feel free to contact me by mail if you have any problems.
Chris
/*
* Christian Neuss % neuss@igd.fhg.de % ..in the humdrum
*/
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Sound Support
Message-ID: <1993Oct4.144408.20979@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 14:44:08 GMT
NeXT's config information file for the Pro Audio Spectrum sound card
states:
On some systems when an Adaptec SCSI controller is present,
the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 cannot play 44.1 kHz, CD-quality sounds. If
the Adaptec controller controls the bus for long periods of time, the
Pro Audio Spectrum16 board is locked out and freezes. This problem has
also been discovered in other 32 bit operating systems and is a
hardware problem.
Given NeXT's warnings, I would like to know what combination of system
and disk interface, with the ProAudioSpectrum, works and does not
work. If any of you have tested sound support in NS/I, please send me
your results. I will post a summary of results (if any) by the end of
the week.
Thanks,
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: pburke@macc.wisc.edu (Peter Burke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Maxtor MXT1200S Drive + Sound playback = Bad News
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 10:06:36
Organization: University of Wisconsin Madison
Message-ID: <pburke.27.000A1C80@macc.wisc.edu>
References: <28icfr$dft@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Summary: Sound playback gaps. No fix.
>please enlighten me. For the rest of you. Forget Maxtor if you're
>going to do sound playback.
As already posted before - most large 3.5" disks suffer from the TCAL
syndrome. Nothing wrong with the disks, but they just can't provide a
continous data transfer over a longer time period! I have a Micropolis 1gig
and a similar 560mb disk on a Macintosh that I use for video digitizing:
lots of frames get lost. Basically unusable for high end work. We also can't
use these disk with our Pinnacle MIcro CD writer: It trashed several blank
CDs before we heard from Pinnacle Micro that disks with TCAL don't work!
There is a brand new Micropolis 1.7 gig 3.5" disk on the market that is sold
with the explicit comment that it does not suffer from TCAL problems: it
supposedly does the recalibration very frequently and very fast, rather than
once in a while and then real good...
Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mike@cd.com (Mike Heins)
Subject: Re: Third serial port on NSFIP machine
Message-ID: <CEDqLM.89w@cd.com>
Summary: scsiTerminal Server works with NS/FIP
Keywords: serial comm port
Organization: Central Data Corp.
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 15:48:57 GMT
>jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu writes:
>>I was wondering...is it at all possible to configure white hardware to
>>have more than two serial ports?
Yes, our scsiTerminal Server works with NSFIP. Call us at
800/482-0315 for more info, or send mail to info@cd.com.
We can add up to 64 serial ports to a NeXT platform. Prices range
from $695 to $1495 for from 3-16 ports.
Perhaps the included serial driver can only handle 2 ports, but it is not
a limitation of NeXT Step.
Regards,
--
______
) ( Mike Heins (sm)
/ | Central Data Corporation The scsiSystems Company
( * | Internet: mikeh@cd.com "We port hardware."
\_ | 1602 Newton Dr., Champaign, IL 61821
\ |
/ / 800/482-0315 or 217/359-8010 (FAX 6904)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: Q: Recommended Scanner for NSI
Message-ID: <1993Oct4.145208.13971@KYnug.org>
Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 14:52:08 GMT
Looking for a scanner solution for Intel, what are the recs for this.
--
Neil Greene
President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
North American, TIFFany Distributor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: stone@cosy.sbg.ac.at
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Content-Type: text/plain
Message-ID: <stone.93Oct4192334@virus.cosy>
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Organization: University of Salzburg / Austria
References: <1993Sep29.145658.14557@crash>
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 18:23:34 GMT
I have the same problem on my ACER 486/66 with ATI GUP Localbus
PLEASE HELP US !
thanx in advance
stone 8-((
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do the ATI cards compare?
Date: 4 Oct 1993 18:43:15 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <28pqs3$6rp@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1993Oct4.130726.12585@news.yale.edu>
In article <1993Oct4.130726.12585@news.yale.edu>,
<jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu> wrote:
>Has anyone had experience with both the revision 6 and 3 ATI GUP cards
>under NSFIP? If so, how do they compare in speed, etc. I am considering
>upgrading my rev. 3 card to a rev. 6 card, primarily to take advantage of
>the higher supported resolutions, but am wondering whether it'll be worth
>the expense.
>
There was no difference in speed under NeXTSTEP for the rev 3 (Ultra Pro)
and rev 6 (XLR ala Gateway) cards as measured by NXBench at 1024x768x16
resolution with the older version of the driver. The rev 6 card works well
at the additional resolutions listed internally in the newer driver and the
speed is similiar at the same resolution. Others report problems with the
rev 3 cards, but I've long since sent mine back as part of the exchange.
Both cards are VRAM, in spite of some confusing postings elsewhere.
Gateway is selling some cards called LX and CLX. Its been reported
that these cards are DRAM. I have not seen anyone claiming these
work under NS.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do the ATI cards compare?
Message-ID: <Oct.4.15.06.48.1993.3232@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 4 Oct 93 19:06:48 GMT
References: <1993Oct4.130726.12585@news.yale.edu> <28pqs3$6rp@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
>There was no difference in speed under NeXTSTEP for the rev 3 (Ultra Pro)
>and rev 6 (XLR ala Gateway) cards as measured by NXBench at 1024x768x16
Speaking of speed and performance, has anyone tested the new ATI GUP with 4meg VRAM? Does it perform any better than the 2meg version or is it the same thing with more memory? Also, does this card support 8bit or 16bit graphics at 1600X1200 pixel resolution?
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Large monitors (21" and up) for NS/FIP
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1993 19:09:58 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Oct04.190958.1728@cyantic.com>
Has anyone used any large monitors 21-35" on a NS/FIP platform?
If so, what are the video adapter requirements, and what was your
impression of the setup.
We have a large format, multi-page graphic layout application that requires
a large monitor to displays several pages at reduced size or alternatively
a single page at 1:1 ratio.
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, CYANTIC Systems Voice: (416) 234-9048
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103 Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9B 6K4 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: EtherCard Ultra
Message-ID: <Oct4.204154.65481@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 20:41:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Has anyone had any luck getting one of these to work using the
EtherCard Elite Plus drivers? If not, does anyone know if NeXT
plans on including an Ultra driver in 3.2?
--
Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation
Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
| ... couldn't have been ME
From: josh@cs.rochester.edu (Josh Tenenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Drivers for Toshiba 3401 CD-rom drive
Message-ID: <1993Oct4.202959.13021@cs.rochester.edu>
Date: 4 Oct 93 20:29:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
I am looking to buy a Toshiba 3401 External CDROM drive. I have
seen posted that this drive will work with the NeXT machine.
Can someone let me know where I can get the driver(s) for it?
Thanks,
Josh D. Tenenberg
Department of Mathematics and
Computer Science
Indiana University at South Bend
1700 Mishawaka Avenue
P.O. Box 7111
South Bend, Indiana 46634
(219) 237-4525
fax: (219) 237-4538
josh@natasha.iusb.indiana.edu
--
Josh D. Tenenberg
Department of Computer Science
University of Rochester
Rochester, New York 14627-0226
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do the ATI cards compare?
Message-ID: <Oct.4.18.02.10.1993.22440@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 4 Oct 93 22:02:10 GMT
References: <1993Oct4.130726.12585@news.yale.edu> <28pqs3$6rp@news.acns.nwu.edu> <Oct.4.15.06.48.1993.3232@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
>Speaking of speed and performance, has anyone tested the new ATI GUP with 4meg VRAM? Does it perform any better than the 2meg version or is it the same thing with more memory? Also, does this card support 8bit or 16bit graphics at 1600X1200 pixel resolution?
BTW, there is no reason, memory wise, that any card with 4 meg VRAM should not support 1600X1200 in 16bit color graphics!!! Not to mention NeXT's native 1120X832 (or even up to abouts 1180X870) at 32 bits :-) I think its really a function of how much time NeXT has to spend on doing drivers.
BTW...The new Matrox card coming out in mid october will be the memory king, at least for a little while, at 4.5 megs of VRAM on board...It will be able to take another 4megs of DRAM, which I dont think will be too usefull on NS. The nice thing about this card it can do 1280X1024 at 24 bits, allthough this too may be useless since next needs 32 bits for alpha...
Later, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: clark@bruce.nist.gov
Subject: Roller cleaner for NeXT laser printer
Message-ID: <CEE7J1.6AJ@dove.nist.gov>
Sender: news@dove.nist.gov
Organization: NIST
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 21:54:36 GMT
Anyone know where to get one of these ?
It's a little plastic L-shaped jobby that sits in the printer. One
mounts the square felt pad from the EP-S cartridge package on it
and uses it to clean the rollers. Mine is missing. Is there
another more common printer that uses the same thing ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Large, high-resolution greyscale monitors for 80x86 computers
Message-ID: <1993Oct4.230719.27867@rosevax.rosemount.com>
Sender: news@rosevax.rosemount.com (Rosevax USENET News auto-admin account)
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
References: <scratch.748909908@sundance.sce.carleton.ca> <1993Oct1.152435.21977@rosevax.rosemount.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 23:07:19 GMT
I just got some more info on hi-res b/w monitors from a local vendor.
I told her that I was looking for SVGA monitors that could do 1024x768
or better, but I think some of these are for specific video boards and
not "standard" SVGA resolutions/frequencies. This info was faxed to
me by a salesperson -- I haven't seen any literature or specs on any
of these, so some info is a little sketchy:
Manufact Model Size Pixels Price Comments
Tatung ? 14" ? (SVGA) $145 might be 800x600?
Samsung MP5671A 15" 1006x1048 $235 "Pagemaster full page"
Sigma 04001 15" 768x1024 $399 75Hz, NI, "Pageview"
05001 19" 1664x1200 $899 76Hz, NI, "L-view dual page"
02001 19" 1664x1200 $899 76Hz, NI, flat, "Multimode 120"
Sampo BDS-1903G 20" 1280x1024 $1045 70Hz "Officepro IIe"
Rasterops 2020C 20" 1152x870 $1700 75Hz, NI, .31mm "Rasterops 20/20"
Some of these (Samsung, Sigma 04001) are probably portrait-mode
displays for high-end word-processing -- in that case, you need a
video board specific to those displays (not "standard" SVGA). I
suspect that the Sigma 5001 also requires a non-standard video board.
The Rasterops display specifies an odd-ball resolution that looks
suspiciosly like Sun's 1152x880 resolution.
That leaves the Tatung, the Sampo, and the Sigma 02001.
The salesperson assumed that the Tatung would do 1024x768 because the
catalog said "SVGA," but I suspect it might only be 800x600.
The Sigma 02001 and Sampo look promising, so I'm going to try to get
more info.
--
Grant Edwards |Yow! Everywhere I look I see
Rosemount Inc. |NEGATIVITY and ASPHALT...
|
grante@rosemount.com |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com (Mark Frank)
Subject: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
Message-ID: <1993Oct4.233927.26101@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Sender: news@newsgate.sps.mot.com
Organization: sps
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 23:39:27 GMT
I bought an external SCSI drive from APS, it has a Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
inside. The disk came formatted for a MacIntosh. After plugging the disk
in, I re-initialized it, and I now have only 877 MB available. Formatted
for the MacIntosh, it had 1 GB of storage. Should I expect to lose
another 120 MB?
- Thanks for your help, Mark
--
Mark Frank frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com
Motorola Inc.
2100 E. Elliot MD508 Tempe, AZ 85284
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 5 Oct 1993 00:01:26 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <28qrik$2q5@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
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moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU
Minor editing: Scott Anguish
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: Any more news about the 4mb S3-928 video cards?
Message-ID: <1993Oct5.033955.10248@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 03:39:55 GMT
We are planning on upgrading from our dog-$#@!#&! Diamond SpeedStarPro
to something a little more civil to NS/i. We would like to get one with
speed comparable to the NS Color Turbo or better (ATI GUP is just too slow) and
with expandability (eg 2M -> 4M vram.) The STB Pegasus (I think) looks pretty
good, but I need some numbers on it. Price, availability, working drivers,
performance, etc.
I would love to wait until November when 3.2 comes out with its slew of new
drivers and other delights, but 640x480x2 gets old real quick.
Thanks,
greg
PS
NXBench NXFactors would be great.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 00:53:00 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ggDqgO00WB9Rn1pJ1@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1993Oct4.233927.26101@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 4-Oct-93 Micropolis 1.2 GB
drive by Mark Frank@dendrite.sps.
> I bought an external SCSI drive from APS, it has a Micropolis 1.2 GB
drive > inside. The disk came formatted for a MacIntosh. After
plugging the disk
> in, I re-initialized it, and I now have only 877 MB available. Formatted
> for the MacIntosh, it had 1 GB of storage. Should I expect to lose
> another 120 MB?
What you are seeing is the result of the Unix filesystem reserving 10%
of the disk space for performance reasons (specifically, better
anticipation of rotational delays and automatic defragmentation). This
percentage can be altered by 'tunefs', a program that you should
probably read the man page for.
BTW, that space is still available for allocation by root (superuser)
and by such things as the machine's swapfile, if necessary.
A secondary matter is that you will end up with more disk space and
better performance if you alter the physical block size of the
filesystem to 1024 byte blocks rather than the standard size of 512
bytes. This may be accomplishable through some obscure manipulation
with the program 'disk'.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Using HP DeskWriter on Black hardware
Message-ID: <CEEvvr.GEx@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <CE73q4.B7B@csn.org> <neuss.749737911@ramazzotti>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 06:40:39 GMT
In article <neuss.749737911@ramazzotti> neuss@igd.fhg.de (Christian Neuss ) writes:
[ ]
>>I have an HP DeskWriter (for the macintosh, not the HP DeskJet 5xx) that
>>I would like to use with my black slab. What will it take in the way
>>of hardware/software to make the DeskWriter work with my black hardware?
>>Is it even possible?
>Hm.. I didn't do this myself, but perhaps I can give you some pointers.
>As far as I know (ask your computer dealer for verification), the difference
>between the DeskWriter and the DeskJet ist that the DeskWriter has an
>RS 422 interface and a different cable. Since your black NeXT machine
>has RS422 output, this should be no problem. The first thing you should
>check out is attaching the printer to a serial port, setting an appropriate
>baud rate, stop bits and other stuff using the stty command, and simply
>try to output a couple of bytes. If this works, get the djf_for_3.0.tar.Z
>package from the archives, e.g. sonata.cc.purdue.edu. It should work
>without any modifications.
This won't work. The DeskWriter and Deskjet are very different in the way
the printer commands work. The Deskjet is based on PCL ( like the LJ). The
DeskWriter is not. I'm not sure what the printer language of a DW is, but
it appears to fall under the "Quickdraw" printer category.
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Subject: Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
References: <4ggDqgO00WB9Rn1pJ1@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 07:37:41 GMT
Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn
Sender: news@pilhuhn.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn)
Message-ID: <CEEyIu.GI6@pilhuhn.sub.org>
> A secondary matter is that you will end up with more disk space and
> better performance if you alter the physical block size of the
> filesystem to 1024 byte blocks rather than the standard size of 512
> bytes. This may be accomplishable through some obscure manipulation
> with the program 'disk'.
>
How?
--
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Zahringerstrasse 57 Fax +49-721-696988
D-76133 Karlsruhe e-mail: jr@sade.ka.sub.org
Germany jr@resy.kfk.de (>50K)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: Re: Do most black printers choke on envelopes frequently?
Message-ID: <CEBv4n.7Iy@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
References: <CE8Kun.6K@genoa.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 15:31:34 GMT
In article <CE8Kun.6K@genoa.com> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> my NeXT laser printer gets jammed when printing envelopes more
> often than not.
>
> it rarely has a problem printing paper or transparencies.
>
> do other people have this problem?
>
> is it a sign that the printer is going to go soon?
>
> does it really matter whether you choose manual or cassettte?
>
>
>
> if most black printers don't have this problem, I'm thinking of
> changing the little gear to see if that helps. if its standard
> NeXT behavior, then I wont bother.
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Alex Blakemore
> alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
I've been having exactly the same problem lately. I didn't used to have this
problem, so it makes me think that something is about to fail. Anyone know
more about this ?
--
-Michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko 403-266-0900)
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Sender: usenet@cuug.ab.ca
Message-ID: <CEEJ5A.GGs@cuug.ab.ca>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 02:05:34 GMT
References: <28f2f1$m2e@cnn.sim.es.com> <CE9zr1.7pF@cuug.ab.ca> <1993Oct3.212800.18676@news.yale.edu>
Organization: Calgary UNIX User's Group
>>
>>1120x832x8 68Hz excellent
> ^^^^^^^^^
>I wouldn't go so far as to call this mode excellent...pretty good, but not
>excellent. I still get the same sort of flickery lines on the left edge of
>the screen as with the 1120x832x16 mode, though far less pronounced.
>
I get absolutely no flicker or anything in this mode, it is great but who
wants gray scale when you paid for color?
I tried the 1120x832x16 60Hz, no flicker or sparkle in this mode, I don't
know why 68Hz would be a problem (the VRAM just doesn't have the bandwidth?),
but 60Hz isn't a reality in any environment.
>>1120x832x16 68Hz fine as long as you don't move any windows around
>> sparkle lines appear on the left of the viewing area
>> when moving windows
>
>Supposedly, this goes away with a new rev. 6 card, though I would feel
>badly about selling off a 2 month old card just to find out.
>
I have a rev 6 board and I still get the flicker. If I change the background
to alighter color the flicker isn't as noticeable, but why should that make
any difference?
Tim
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Date: 5 Oct 1993 14:14:28 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28rvg4$qpd@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <CEEJ5A.GGs@cuug.ab.ca>
In article <CEEJ5A.GGs@cuug.ab.ca> twasko@cuug.ab.ca (Tim Wasko 403-266-0900)
writes:
> >>
> >>1120x832x8 68Hz excellent
> > ^^^^^^^^^
> >I wouldn't go so far as to call this mode excellent...pretty good, but not
> >excellent. I still get the same sort of flickery lines on the left edge of
> >the screen as with the 1120x832x16 mode, though far less pronounced.
> >
> I get absolutely no flicker or anything in this mode, it is great but who
> wants gray scale when you paid for color?
Well, the Tensor Test shows that it is about 2 times faster than the color
model, and having a 100 greys (at least in the color wells) to choose from
makes it very easy to read the screen.
I am trying it out for a while, and I think it looks pretty good. Of course,
I'm color blind, so most of those 4096 colors are wasted anyway (how many red's
do you need when they all look brown-orange;-).
- Geoff
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 10:14:39 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <sggM5D_00YUnJekZY1@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <CEEyIu.GI6@pilhuhn.sub.org>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 5-Oct-93 Re: Micropolis
1.2 GB drive by Jochen Richter@sade.ka.s
> > bytes. This may be accomplishable through some obscure manipulation
> > with the program 'disk'.
> >
>
> How?
By altering the sector_size (check out 'scsimodes <raw_device>') and
then issuing a format command. I can't remember whether there's an easy
way to do this from disk (ie, will disk ask you what the physical sector
size should be when labelling/formatting the disk), or whether you have
to do something more difficult. I think there are some SCSI utils on
the archives that can help (you should get anything containing 'scsi' or
'disk' probably).
I wish that 'disk' was a little more powerful, like the SCSI util that
Sun ships....
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Uninterruptible Power Supply
Message-ID: <CEAypq.HH@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Sep29.210927.6161@cs.rochester.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 03:51:26 GMT
In article <1993Sep29.210927.6161@cs.rochester.edu> josh@cs.rochester.edu (Josh
Tenenberg) writes:
#I am most concerned about risk of damage to my machine. Might I be almost
#as well served by a surge protector, at 1/10th the cost? I also
#noticed that there are power conditioners and voltage regulators?
#Do I want one of these? Any advice would be most welcome.
A surge protector only protects from spikes.
The UPS will allow, like you said, a nice clean shut down.
W/out a UPS pulling the plug on a UNIX box may or may not
cause problems. If the OS is in the middle of some file
system maint. and is doing a write, a pull of the plug could
trash your disk and possibly mean a reformat.
Do you want one? I think you do. I'm in the process of
getting one myself.
Kent
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/* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Scanners and NS/FIP
Date: 5 Oct 1993 18:20:13 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28sdst$16m@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Does anyone have recommendations for scanners/software for NS/FIP?
In particular, I would be interested to hear from anyone using a
HP ScanJetIIc with NS/FIP.
Thanks,
Hubert Hickman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: SUMMARY: Best Intel Box (of DG/Intel/Epson/Dell)
Message-ID: <thompsonCEFqB6.8xG@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Saperstein, et al.
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 17:37:53 GMT
Here are the answers I received in response to my query regarding
the best of Dell/Epson/Intel/Data General 486 machines for running
NEXTSTEP. At the firm I work at we already have a DG AViiON, so DG
is pushing hard to sell us the 486s too. Apparently their machines
perform about as well as the Intel too (depending on which boards/
components you go with, etc.)
The Intel/GX appears to be the consensus choice, however. A couple of
people mentiond the DEC, and I would like to hear more about it if it
is indeed as good or better than the Intel or DG.
Thanks to everyone who contributed! I left off everyone's names just
in case--but if I didn't thank you individually, let me thank you now;
you know who you are :)
Eric
thompson@netcom.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I use the Intel GX with 32 of RAM plus the DEC 1 gig drive.
The machine is the best that I have tried from your list. The sound via
the motherboard is a little bit poor until 3.2 and the video is slow. Other
than that a great machine. Bear in mind that NeXT was going to OEM the box
before the Feb night of the long knives and that the Intel port was written
and tested on GX's.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I set up a Dell/Jaws system for my wife. Everything seems to be
working great. The only complaint so far is not with the machine
itself, but rather with the 3Com ethernet's throughput. Get the
Intel, if you're going to set up ethernet.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
We've tested a Dell 50 Mhz/ JAWS, an Epson NX Progression, a
DEC MTE and a Compaq 5/60 Pentium. My infomral impressions
are these:
Dell
Slowest of the group - around 29 MIPS. Graphics run
smoother than any of the others. However, I would never buy
one until I was convinced that Dell had solved the fuzzy
screen problem. You can't view the 17" Dell monitor for more
han a half hour without getting a headache.
Epson (66 Mhz. 486)
Best price of the group. About 10% faster processor and 10%
slower graphics than the Dell. This is a reasonable machine
for the cost.
Compaq (60 Mhz. Pentium)
The CPU benchmarks at an excellent 54 MIPS. (The old black
slabs are about 18 MIPS.) The graphics speed is irregular.
(When the CPU speed is most important it does fine, but moving
windows around the display causes considerable ghosts and
tearing.) We like them because most of our use is
CPU-intensive, but they aren't pleasant if you do a lot of
window opening, closing and moving. Of course, the Compaq is
very pricey.
DEC (66 Mhz. 486 w/ S928 graphics)
This machine is my personal choice for the money. It
benchmarks at 40 MIPS, has the fastest disk of the bunch
and has graphics speed that is roughly equivalent to the Dell.
I don't have time to give you all of the details of our tests.
However, all machines are roughly the same configuration - that being
about 24MB of memory, 240 MB hard disk, and 17" monitor.
Some suggestions... Don't buy a non-recommended configuration
unless you have plenty of time for trouble loading NeXTSTEP.
(We wasted two weeks on a Zenith machine.) Look carefully at
the monitor. (We like the NEC 5 FG, but not the FGE's, not the
Dell Ultrascan's, not Compaq's monitors, etc.)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My brother bought a DEC PC and is quite happy with it. The display
resolution is 1280 by 1024 and he says it's pretty fast.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
We've got all four. Out of the four Epsons that we purchased two of
the hard drives have died. The Dells were terribly late in arrival and
the support is terrible. I would recommend either the DG or the Intel.
The DG is your basic eisa machine just like the Dell (just with better
support). For us, the video is a little slow in the DG and DG insists on
selling 3comm ethernet cards. They're terrible. If you plan on doing
anything network intensive, your machine will consistently panic. If
you're going to buy a DG, just buy an Intel ethernet card instead.
Now the Intels will be much better once on board sound and on board
scsi drivers are released. And Intel support is excellent. The only
problem I have with Intel boxes is that you have to find a decent
company to buy them from: one that installs NEXTSTEP for you, and one
that delivers on time. So far, this has been a bit elusive for us.
But you do get the choice with Intel of IDE or scsi, although IDE
drives are a pain to work with. In fact, if you have an IDE drive, you
can't use a DPT 2012/90 to do your install. The whole machine just
hangs.
Monitor wise - I have a viewsonic 7, which I like. My developers, who
are more picky, like the Wyse or the NEC.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have had all of the above on my desk for evaluation purposes,
running NeXTSTEP.
DG Dasher II
------------
Fast enough the best CPU performance of the machines you'd listed
in the configurations we tested, but not outstandingly well
designed in any particular way. It's expensive and looks and
feels like a PC clone.
Epson NX / Progression NX
-------------------------
Well designed machine overall but they're ISA only! That means
you'll be locked into slow peripheral stuff forever. The video
is blazingly fast, but CPU performance was poor compared to
everything else at the same clock speed. I'd rate it as a good
user machine, but not for developers or power users.
Intel GX/Professional
---------------------
I love the machine! It's the one that STAYED on my desk.
Phenomenally well designed, sleek machine that performs well
(CPU performance bested only by the DG box, and not by much).
Once the on-board sound and SCSI are supported (both to be
included in 3.2), I'll be supremely happy. Only drawbacks:
- Only three slots, but given that everything but ethernet is
integrated, that's not a big issue for most people
- Video is NOT upgradable, as there are no localbus slots, just
the integrated localbus controller
Note that this is the machine Steve used on stage at Expo '93.
With the new ATI drivers, better resolutions become available,
but mine couldn't handle 1120 x 832 in color properly (the newer
ones using the rev 6a Mach32 chipset MIGHT fare better), but 1280
x 1024 grayscale is a sight to behold!
Dell DGX
--------
Poorly engineered, slow CPU, but blazing video performance.
Originally "the box to turn to" because of the 1120 x 832 color
graphics with decent performance, this machine doesn't have much
else going for it.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I use a Dell 450/L, configured with 28Mb RAM, 1Mb VRAM, 230Mb IDE,
670Mb SCSI, Adaptec 1542B SCSI card, Dell 15" FS monitor.
This is a solid, dependable machine. I bought it primarily because it
is a supported NEXTSTEP configuration, and that has saved a lot of
headaches. I have had no trouble installing any of the NEXTSTEP release
software.
Were I to change anything, I would go with an EISA configuration. I
have no comparison data, but I don't think the ISA takes full advantage
of the SCSI and it requires memory buffer games to use I/O in memory
addressed above 16Mb. I don't have a network, but I think that would
also fare better with EISA.
I run the monitor at 800x600 color. It's a bit cramped, but I've gotten
used to it. I used to switch to 1024x768 gray for programming, when I
have lots of windows in use, but don't bother anymore. Color is nice and
that resolution really needs a larger monitor. Video performance is
acceptable...not as snappy as the Wingine-based options but OK for general
use.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am looking for a machine to run NeXTSTEP also. I thought DEC MTE was
the best choice for me to get an fast EISA/SCSI PC to run video
communication. However, DEC uses Adatptec 1742 as the controller that
is not supported by 3.1, but 3.2.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm using Dell 450DE/2 DGX which has the best graphic performance
(even better than Epson Progression.)
This machine is the primary machine NeXT port NS too.
It's a EISA machine. So, you can get a EISA SCSI controller such as
DPT 201X or 202X to increase the disk performance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Doug Moore
Subject: General SCSI questions(Black Hardware)
Message-ID: <CEFtLM.IzE@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 18:46:07 GMT
About a year ago there was a thread on these groups concerning the SCSI
performance of NeXT hardware in which the concensus seemed to indicate
that the hardware was capable of more performance than we are getting.
Would it be possible to write a new SCSI driver to bring us up to full
SCSI 2 support, with sychronous transfers etc?
Also, I have a Toshiba MK-438FB in my station (886MB w/1024 byte sectors).
Does anyone out there know how to check if the cache is turned on, and if
not, how can it be set?
Doug Moore
moor0002@gold.tc.umn.edu
From: shahir@asic.mtv.nec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEXT 17" and 21" color monitor for sale
Message-ID: <1993Oct5.104805.59@asic.mtv.nec.com>
Date: 5 Oct 93 10:48:05 -0800
Organization: NEC Electronics, Inc.
FOR SALE NEXT COLOR MONITOR:
I have a next 17" and one 21" color monitor for sale
17" $650 new/ obo
21" $1350 new/ obo
Please call:
(408)238-6251 Voice after 7:00PM PST
(408)238-9495 Fax
or email:
shahir@asic.mtv.nec.com
From: markf@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Mark Frohnmayer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sony monitor and 1150 x 800
Date: 5 Oct 1993 19:16:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Message-ID: <28sh6t$pjj@agate.berkeley.edu>
Just a quick question: Does anyone out there use a Sony CPD 1730S with the
ATI GUP and the new ATI NS driver? Will the Sony synch up to 1152 x 800 x 16?
The monitor specs say it does not support 1280 x 1024, but says nothing about
1152 x 800.
-Mark
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: S3-928 driver speed query.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 5 Oct 93 12:20:29
Organization: Dubious.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <MCGLK.93Oct5122029@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
Wellllllllll, I'm still lusting after the 1280x1024x16b video of the S3-928
that comes with the DEC MTE, but nobody has posted video benchmarks.
I know that the ATI GUP has about 40% of the video performance of the
Colorstation Turbo, and that the Dell DGX has about 120% that of the CT. But
does *anyone* have information on the S3-928 yet, in 1280x1024 mode?
---Ken McGlothlen
mcglk@cpac.washington.edu
mcglk@cpac.bitnet
From: fl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: optical disks
Date: 5 Oct 1993 19:13:34 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28sh0uINNr1g@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
What are sources for disks for the next optical drives in the cubes?
Also, does cannon still make these disks?
thanks
David Yu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: tma@encore.com (Thanh Ma)
Subject: Re: Large, high-resolution greyscale monitors for 80x86 computers
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 18:49:13 GMT
Message-ID: <CEFtM2.7Ln@encore.com>
References: <scratch.748909908@sundance.sce.carleton.ca> <1993Oct1.152435.21977@rosevax.rosemount.com> <1993Oct4.230719.27867@rosevax.rosemount.com>
Sender: news@encore.com (Usenet readnews user id)
grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:
>I just got some more info on hi-res b/w monitors from a local vendor.
>I told her that I was looking for SVGA monitors that could do 1024x768
>or better, but I think some of these are for specific video boards and
>not "standard" SVGA resolutions/frequencies. This info was faxed to
>me by a salesperson -- I haven't seen any literature or specs on any
>of these, so some info is a little sketchy:
>Manufact Model Size Pixels Price Comments
>Tatung ? 14" ? (SVGA) $145 might be 800x600?
Tatung CM14UAS can do 1024x768 NI
Tatung CM14SAx can not do 1024x768 NI
Tatung CM20BMD is very good too.
--
--
Thanh Ma
tma@encore.com
From: savitt@unixg.ubc.ca (Savitt Steve)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Do most black printers choke on envelopes frequently?
Date: 5 Oct 93 19:16:12 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <savitt.749848572@unixg.ubc.ca>
References: <1993Oct3.073522.24525@Radical.Com> <CED4zJ.Ju4@unix.portal.com>
I have always had problems printing envelopes.
Some of the stationary that I like to use is,
I think, a little to thick for my black printer.
I find that if I rub over it with a pencil, for
instance, it is more likely to feed properly.
(I haven't tried pushing, but I will.)
A couple of months ago I bought some expensive
"made for laser printer" envelopes. They feed
fine, but they come out terribly wrinkled--much
worse than less expensive envelopes.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: terjem@stud.cs.uit.no (Terje Normann Marthinussen)
Subject: Re: Maxtor MXT1200S Drive + Sound playback = Bad News
Sender: news@news.uit.no (News admin.)
Message-ID: <1993Oct5.193638.1298@news.uit.no>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 19:36:38 GMT
References: <28ig2dINNrpo@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
Organization: University of Tromsoe
In article <28ig2dINNrpo@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>, patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase) writes:
>In <28icfr$dft@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, sav3@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah) writes:
>> I called tech support (800) 2MAXTOR, and the guy told me that with
>> these new very high speed drives (the disk spins at something like
>> 6300 RPM), in order to maintain data integrity, every 5 minutes the
>> drive must recalibrate the heads (some kind of re-alignment), This
>> takes 200 milleseconds, but in that time it needs to clear its
>> 256K buffer to do a few read/write tests. The end result is that
>> every 5 minutes, your data flow is interrupted. You CAN turn this
>> "feature" off, but the guy told me you can only do this temporarily
>> by downloading firmware to the drive, and only after it's been on
>> for 2 hours. After recording your sounds tape then, you have to
>> turn this thermo recalibration back on.
>
>The feature to which you refer is TCAL, or thermal calibration. Byte had
>a sidebar about it a couple issues back in their review of large disk
>drives. If I remember right, they measured its effects on a few, and
>published the results. I don't seem to recall any of the ones they looked at
>being as bad as yours. The reason you have to wait 2 hr. to disable TCAL
Well, if you looked at one of the pages in the September issue of BYTE where
they test HD's you will see that they gives an award to a Micropolis drive
there because they never where able to catch it in doing a TCAL...
Terje Marthinussen
terjem@stud.cs.uit.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jgrace@netcom.com (Joseph Grace)
Subject: Re: NeXT seagate drive info...
Message-ID: <jgraceCEFtt6.7K2@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <1993Oct5.172355.8353@ximage.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 18:53:30 GMT
In article <1993Oct5.172355.8353@ximage.com> jag@seguente (Jagdish Narasimhan) writes:
>Hi:
>[...]
>The ST1280 is an OEM'd drive by NEXT from Seagate...and both parties
>are pointing to the other to get info...
How goofy!
>I am looking for details (cyuls, heads, blocks, etc) of
>a ST1280 seagate drive that came with my Turbo...
From the little "Installation Guide" for a Seagate ST1480:
SeaFAX (408) 438-2620
SeaFONE (408) 438-8222
SeaBOARD (408) 438-8771 (USA bboard, other country #s available too!)
All of these provide technical information, e.g., for SeaFONE:
The enhanced phone system provides recorded technical information
on selected Seagate products while you are on hold. Technical
suppport [sic :-] specialists are available to answer questions
from 8:00 AM to 5:00PM PST, Monday through Friday. Recording
are accessible 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Caveat: I've never tried this stuff!
If you get hold of Seagate again, ask them to send you one of
their "Installation Guides" for the ST1280. It's tiny and
probably wouldn't cost a cent! I think it has all the basic
information on the drive.
Cheers,
= Joe =
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jag@seguente (Jagdish Narasimhan)
Subject: NeXT seagate drive info...
Message-ID: <1993Oct5.172355.8353@ximage.com>
Sender: usenet@ximage.com (Usenet accout)
Organization: XImage Corp.
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 17:23:55 GMT
Hi:
I am looking for details (cyuls, heads, blocks, etc) of
a ST1280 seagate drive that came with my Turbo...
This drive has been swapped out, and I need to use it in a different
(non-NeXT) machine...the NeXT now has a 400 MB drive,
The ST1280 is an OEM'd drive by NEXT from Seagate...and both parties
are pointing to the other to get info...
Any help would be appreciated...(maybe some NeXT employee might
remember the details)...
Thanks
jag@ximage.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Large, high-resolution greyscale monitors for 80x86 computers
Message-ID: <1993Oct5.190833.25395@rosevax.rosemount.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Sender: news@rosevax.rosemount.com (Rosevax USENET News auto-admin account)
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
References: <scratch.748909908@sundance.sce.carleton.ca> <1993Oct1.152435.21977@rosevax.rosemount.com> <1993Oct4.230719.27867@rosevax.rosemount.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 19:08:33 GMT
Two more data points for those interested in high-res mono tubes:
IBM 8507, list $600, 19", 0.25mm, 64 shades of grey, 1024x768 (8514a compatible)
IBM 8508, list $1345, 19", 114ppi, 16 fo [sic] 256 gray, 1600x1200
I've seen refurbished 8507's for $250. Haven't seen too many 8508's
for sale.
--
Grant Edwards |Yow! Quick, sing me the
Rosemount Inc. |BUDAPEST NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
|
grante@rosemount.com |
From: Olav Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Putting an 030 and a 040 into the same cube
Date: 5 Oct 1993 23:02:42 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28suei$s2d@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi,
Is there documentation somewhere that would tell me how to hook up to
computers in the same box?
___________________________________________________
B.Olav Anderson
Autodidact
NeXTSTEP CyberSurfer
e-mail olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca NeXT Mail? Of course!
Vancouver, B.C.
"I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to
elevate his life by a conscious endeavor."
H.D.Thoreau
From: djohnson@cayenne.gac.edu (Daniel P Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Heard a pop. What should I do?
Date: 5 Oct 93 19:19:40
Organization: I sell snails and something else to dead widows
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <DJOHNSON.93Oct5191940@cayenne.gac.edu>
References: <54841@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
In-reply-to: mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu's message of 30 Sep 93 01:03:02 GMT
In article <54841@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu (Mark Stankus) writes:
.My non-turbo black hardware made a pop sound.
.What should I do?
.I am going to power it down in a minute. What else
.should I do?
Change your error beep. :-)
-- Daniel Johnson djohnson@cayenne.gac.edu --
From: marple@cs.ubc.ca (Kirk Marple)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Digital video support for NS/Intel?
Date: 5 Oct 1993 18:15:23 -0700
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28t67bINNa1m@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
Can anyone tell me what, if any, digital video support exists for
NeXTStep/Intel? I'm looking for video capture and/or compression cards
that NS/I supports.
Also, if anyone knows where I can get more information on general
multimedia support for NS/I, I'd really appreciate it. I've looked
through several of the latest issues of NeXTWorld and have seen very few
multimedia products (software and hardware) for NS/I.
Thanks for your help,
Kirk
From: mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Question about NeXT printer
Date: 6 Oct 1993 02:15:08 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28t9nc$dbl@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Hi,
I'm considering buying a used NeXT b/w printer for my slab, but
I have a few questions about them. I know the printer cannot be
used by non-NeXT computers directly, since the computer provides
the PostScript. But can another computer use it by going through
the NeXT computer somehow? Also, can NeXT printers be used on
486's runing NSI?
Mikael
--
Mikael Behrens mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Computer Science student University of Texas at Austin
"Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hayashi@teal.csn.org (hayashi)
Subject: dbl-sided mo not meant?
Message-ID: <CEGDH3.s0@csn.org>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Summary: My OD won't eat a double-sisded optical disk
Keywords: double-sided optical disk
Sender: news@csn.org (news)
Organization: SRA Boulder
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 01:58:14 GMT
My Nextcube optical drive won't eat Sony's double-sided disk.
Would someone tell me why?
I thought the d-sided was as OK as a single-sided, but
the drive doesn't look happy with it and won't take it in.
(I asked for an unformated disk and they sent me a formated one
with each sector of 1KByte, if this has anything to do with this.
But I can re-format it once the disk is recognized by the system,
can't I?)
Please educate this novice. Thanks.
--Yoshi Hayashi
hayashi@sda.com
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Driver. 1280*1024*8 fails to work on Intel GX/Pro
Date: 6 Oct 1993 03:06:42 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28tco2$lrl@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Has anyone got the latest ATI Driver to work in 1280*1024*8 mode on an
Intel GX/Pro machine. On my machine (standard unmodified Intel GX/Pro with
onboard ATI, running 1024*768*24 in 2MB VRAM right now), switching into
1280*1024*8 mode and rebooting produces a screen that is completely black.
The resulting cold reboot corrupted my system to the point that I had to
rebuild completely.
* Has anyone managed to get the new ATI driver to work in 1280*1024 mode on
such a machine (details see below)?
* Also, why can the new 1280*1024 driver run only in 60Hz refresh mode,
when both my board and my card (Windows) can do it in 72 Hz without
problem?
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
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From: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran)
Subject: Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
Message-ID: <1993Oct5.153900.1274@abulafia.in-berlin.de>
Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de
Organization: Volker Safran, Interprint, Berlin, Germany
References: <CEEyIu.GI6@pilhuhn.sub.org>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 15:39:00 GMT
In article <CEEyIu.GI6@pilhuhn.sub.org> jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen
Richter) writes:
> > A secondary matter is that you will end up with more disk space and
> > better performance if you alter the physical block size of the
> > filesystem to 1024 byte blocks rather than the standard size of 512
> > bytes. This may be accomplishable through some obscure manipulation
> > with the program 'disk'.
> >
>
> How?
>
I am interested in this, too. Please post the result. I know, how to do
this on Fujitsu Drives with the program "formatter" from the archives,
but we definetely had no success to set a DEC DSP3105 drive to
1024Bytes/sector. It is a loss of about 50MByte with this drive!!!
CIAO Volker
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From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: seagate drivwe model #
Message-ID: <CEGHw6.CIG@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 03:33:42 GMT
What is the model number of the 400 Meg seagate drive that was in the slabs ?
Mine died and I need a model number so I can talk to seagate. Reply by e-mail
to mgb@thoth.stetson.edu.
Thanks.
--
-Michael
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From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: SUMMARY: how to help black printers avoid jamming on envelopes
Message-ID: <CEFFDs.41p@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <CEBv4n.7Iy@moksha.uucp>
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 13:41:52 GMT
Thanks to all who responded to my question about NeXT Canon printers
jamming frequently on envelopes. It is pretty clear that my printer
was not a fluke, but that many people have the same problem.
But there is hope ...
some combination of the following tricks seem to help prevent the problem
(but I've done only limited testing to see which ones work best)
a. buy thin envelopes
b. run your fingernails along the edges of the envelope to get
all the folds really flat - may allow you to use thicker envelopes,
may not need to do this to the trailing edge?
c. use manual feed
d. help it get started feeding by applying light even pressure,
one person said you could do this before hitting print by
pushing it in till you felt it get pinched, others do it
as the printer starts to pull it in.
e. say Kudesai frequently (please in the printer's native tongue)
I've starting using option b in addition to variations of the others
and am having much better luck. hope this helps others.
many thanks to all who responded including Joe Plassmann, Art Isbell,
Patrick Hester, Patrick Hester and others whose names I lost.
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@cs.umd.edu NeXT mail accepted
From: thcheng@csie.nctu.edu.tw (a)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ColorStudio 1.5 and ScanMaker IIxe
Date: 6 Oct 1993 11:13:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Information Engin., Chiao-Tung U, Taiwan, ROC
Message-ID: <28u987$cl8@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Dear friends:
My Colorstudio 1.5 software won't work with the new Microtek ScanMaker IIxe
color scanner. It used to be OK with Microtek 300Z scanner.
Do I need to upgrade Colorstudio? Can I just use Photoshop plug-in for
ColorStudio? Does Microtek offer Colorstudio driver?
--
Tz-shin Cheng (e-mail: thcheng@csie.nctu.edu.tw)
Department of Computer Science & Information Engineering
National Chao-Tung University, HsinChu, Taiwan, R.O.C.
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From: dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Digital video support for NS/Intel?
Message-ID: <1993Oct6.092143.27990@prim.demon.co.uk>
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.
References: <28t67bINNa1m@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 09:21:43 GMT
In article <28t67bINNa1m@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> marple@cs.ubc.ca (Kirk Marple) writes:
>Can anyone tell me what, if any, digital video support exists for
>NeXTStep/Intel? I'm looking for video capture and/or compression cards
>that NS/I supports.
I got a brochure through the post for something called Screen Machine II that
appears to do what you want. It's produced by FAST Electronic GmbH (Munich),
tel: +49 89 50 20 60 and distributed by d'ART, email: sm@dart.de
Dave Griffiths
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Do most black printers choke on envelopes frequently?
Message-ID: <21527@news.duke.edu>
Date: 6 Oct 93 13:58:54 GMT
References: <savitt.749848572@unixg.ubc.ca>
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
I've had this problem with even standard old Mead envelopes, nothing fancy or
thick. One thing that seems to help is to smash the folds down good by running
over them with a pencil or your fingernail before feeding them in. I also give
them a little boost into the slot as the printer starts to activate.
I doubt this is a problem with NeXT printers alone!
Denise
--
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Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
(919) 282-6468 W | reward.
blake015@mc.duke.edu |
From: cbartz@frog.mrj.com (Chris Bartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Future Domain 1680
Date: 6 Oct 1993 09:40:39 -0400
Organization: MRJ, Inc./Oakton, Virginia, USA
Sender: cbartz@mrj.com
Message-ID: <28uhsn$dqp@frog.mrj.com>
I just ordered the NeXTStep evaluation kit and much to my chagrin, it
appears that the Future Domain 1680 SCSI controller card I have is not
supported. I've been noticing that people are posting about new video
drivers, so is there the ability to add on additional drivers not included
with NeXTStep? If so, does anyone know if there is a driver to support
my Future Domain adapter? I'd really hate to have to plunk down $200 to
get an Adaptec controller when my FD works with everything else I run (mainly
DOS and OS/2).
Chris
From: mlh1@bunny.gte.com (Michael Hackney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel EtherExpress 16 problems?
Message-ID: <mlh1-061093112107@132.197.9.133>
Date: 6 Oct 93 15:33:56 GMT
Sender: news@ceylon.gte.com
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: GTE Laboratories
I just received a new Gateway 2000 4DX266V system with the Intel
EtherExpress 16 TP card. I am using a transceiver on the AUI (thicknet)
port. I am trying to install the NeXT i486 evaluation kit on this system.
No problems installing the base & developer packages but I can't get the
networking to work. I am installing this single NeXT system on a
heterogeneous ethernet of DECs and HPs, so I plan to use the HostManager to
manually set the host name, Internet address and Netmask. It jus t won't
work. At boot time, I get an error message like '_IOProbeDriver: No Such
Device, device EtherExpress16 unit 0' printed on the terminal. I have used
ifconfig to try to get info and/or setup the card manually - but I get an
error from ioctl: no such interface.
I have read the NeXT answers and learned that there is an updated
EtherExpress driver, which I had mailed to my DEC station. Unfortuantely, I
can't use it. Is their an FTP site where I can get the new driver? Has
anyone had this problem and am I correct in thinking the new driver might
help?
Any help appreciated,
Thanks,
Michael "trying to show GTE what's NeXT!"
// Michael Hackney email mhackney@gte.com
// GTE Laboratories voice (617) 466-2619
// 40 Sylvan Rd. fax (617) 890-9320
// Waltham, MA 02254
From: rowden@morph.midatl.mccaw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: QUIET 1G 3.5" drive wanted...
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 93 09:42:39 PDT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <28uiep$svu@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
References: <1993Sep30.190517.20929@icaen.uiowa.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In article <1993Sep30.190517.20929@icaen.uiowa.edu>, <dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu>
writes:
> Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
> Path:
mccaw!nwnexus!hubble.asymetrix.com!netnews.nwnet.net!news.clark.edu!spool.mu.ed
u!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiow
a.edu!icaen!icaen.uiowa.edu!dsiebert
> From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert)
> Subject: QUIET 1G 3.5" drive wanted...
> Recently I looked for a 1G 3.5" drive to put inside my NeXTstation. I was
..
> ones aren't as hot as the first ones made were) Any advice/recommendations
> out there?
Try the Quantum 1225S, I have one in my Intel Pro GX box running NS/I and it
seems to be fairly quiet. In heavy intensive disk applications you can hear it
pretty well, but over all it is pretty quiet
Tom Rowden
PC Technician, LAN Manager, NextStep Tester, etc. etc. etc.
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From: alex@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Alex Raftis)
Subject: Re: ColorStudio 1.5 and ScanMaker IIxe
Message-ID: <1993Oct06.150119.4831@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 93 15:01:19 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, SLO
References: <28u987$cl8@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
In article <28u987$cl8@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> thcheng@csie.nctu.edu.tw (a)
writes:
> Dear friends:
>
> My Colorstudio 1.5 software won't work with the new Microtek ScanMaker
IIxe
> color scanner. It used to be OK with Microtek 300Z scanner.
>
> Do I need to upgrade Colorstudio? Can I just use Photoshop plug-in for
> ColorStudio? Does Microtek offer Colorstudio driver?
>
While researching scanners, I was informed that none of Microtek's new
scanners will work with the NeXT. Apparantly they "upgraded" the ROMs on
all their machines such that they will no longer work on the NeXT SCSI
bus. Welcome to the world of propietary interfaces. This information is
from one company I called about software who said they were no longer able
to support Microtek. Using Mircotek propietary interface card, you may be
able to run Microtek scanners on Intel hardware, but don't expect to on
black hardware.
From my research, I found only Epson, HP, and UMAX to make scanners that
would work on any SCSI bus, however the HP scanner requires an external
hook up to do this (I think).
Alex
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From: bryant@math.duke.edu (Robt Bryant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Question about NeXT printer
Summary: Experience with using NeXT printer with other machines
Keywords: CAPS Macs printers NeXT
Message-ID: <21517@news.duke.edu>
Date: 6 Oct 93 12:24:18 GMT
References: <28t9nc$dbl@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept of Math, Duke Univ, Durham, NC, USA
In article <28t9nc$dbl@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>,
Mikael Behrens <mbehrens@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm considering buying a used NeXT b/w printer for my slab, but
>I have a few questions about them. I know the printer cannot be
>used by non-NeXT computers directly, since the computer provides
>the PostScript. But can another computer use it by going through
>the NeXT computer somehow? Also, can NeXT printers be used on
>486's runing NSI?
>
>Mikael
>
I can report my experiences. My NeXTStation was,
until recently, integrated into the Math Department UNIX
system (mainly SUNS). I had a NeXT printer hanging off of
it. The other machines in the department had no trouble
finding my printer and printing on it if they wanted to.
They didn't want to very often because the printer was kept
in my office and only I had the key. Basically, my slab
just pretended that it was the printer and did all of the
PostScript interpreting before it sent anything to the printer.
I also had a Mac (SE/30) in my office. Our systems people
installed CAPS and after that, I could find my NeXT printer
in the Chooser without any problems. It was great.
HOWEVER, last spring, I upgraded my NeXT OS from
2.1 to 3.0 and since then, I have had a very weird problem
with CAPS: Whenever I sent a multipage document from my
Mac which contained non-"resident" fonts, the first page
would print fine, but then all subsequent pages would print
with Courier replacing any non-resident fonts. I never did
figure out what was wrong. Somehow, the new version of
PostScript emulation on the NeXT was initializing memory
in some inappropriate (or at least, unexpected) way after
every showpage. There is some incompatibility between the
PostScript which a Mac generates (at least under System 7)
and the PostScript which NeXT speaks. I suspect that this
is really a Mac problem because my experience is that
NeXT was very careful to adhere to PostScript Level 2
implementation guidelines.
Oh, well. That's my 2 cents.
Yours,
Robert L. Bryant
bryant@math.duke.edu
PS: I just read over this and realized that you might think
some catastrophe had ocurred with my NeXT since I was using
the past tense in the above paragraphs. Actually, I'm just
on leave this year and have taken my NeXT with me.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 15:24:37 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8gglhp600WB8QD0qU1@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1993Oct5.153900.1274@abulafia.in-berlin.de>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 5-Oct-93 Re: Micropolis
1.2 GB drive by Volker Safran@abulafia.i
>>> This may be accomplishable through some obscure manipulation
>>> with the program 'disk'.
>
> I am interested in this, too. Please post the result. I know, how to do
> this on Fujitsu Drives with the program "formatter" from the archives,
> but we definetely had no success to set a DEC DSP3105 drive to
> 1024Bytes/sector. It is a loss of about 50MByte with this drive!!!
#include <std/disclaimer.h>
DISCLAIMER: You may do bad things to your disk drive if you follow
these instructions. I won't be held responsible for any problems that
may occur.
#end /* disclaimer */
First, you really should check with the manufacturor of you drive that
it is in fact capable of handling 1K sectors. There are some disk
drives out there that will not, and there are others (made by IBM, for
example), that will pretend to format at 1K, but actually just create a
logical mapping of 2 physical sectors into 1 larger sector.
Reformatting these drives will not increase the amount of disk space.
For sanity checking, it would be a good idea to have the vital
statistics of the drive (# of cylinders, # heads, rpm) and it is a
*really* good idea to know the number of sectors/track as a function of
sector size. The manual that came with your drive should have all of
these in there.
There is a set of SCSI utilities called scsitools.tar.Z available for
FTP from sonata.cc.purdue.edu in /pub/next/2.0/src. Get them.
Run the sense program on your drive via:
"sense -t <scsi target number> -p 63 > drive.sense"
Edit this file, *making sure* that you save to a new file, say new.sense.
Change the line:
-mbdf 0006 02 02 # 02 02 02 02
under "# Parameter List Block Descriptor Format" to:
-mbdf 0006 04 04 # 04 04 04 04
and save.
This will alter a field from the results of doing a "SCSI inquire",
doubling the size of the sectors on the disk.
Now, do:
"select -t <scsi target number> -f new.sense"
which should send the altered blocksize to the disk.
Format the disk using either /usr/etc/disk, and then create labels,
partitions, filesystems, etc as you would normally.
If your drive was designed correctly, it will detect the new blocksize
and provide 'disk' with the correct information for the new
configuration via the SCSI 'mode sense' command. A good check for this
is that the number of sectors/track should have been cut *almost* in
half. For example, you should see 65 s/t (about - I don't really
remember offhand) go to 34 s/t. This is from my drive, a SEAGATE ST1280
(5822), 250MB hard drive. If you build a filesystem, you should have
more space available now.
If the drive returns bad information to 'disk' than you will have to
construct an entry in /etc/disktab with the correct values. Examine
that file in order to determine what a correct entry should look like.
If you have the option, grab the sense entries from a drive already
correctly formatted at 1K sectors, instead of doing the modifications
yourself.
If worst comes to worst, and you can't get the drive to work, you can
always restore the old mode sense entries via:
"select -t <scsi target number> -f drive.sense"
and reformat.
I can't swear that this will work on your drive, but it did on mine, and
it apparently has for several other disk drives, according to the author
of scsitools.
Good luck,
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
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From: burns@sparc30.cs.uiuc.edu (Edward John Burns)
Subject: Help on packet sniffer, network-related kernel server
Message-ID: <CEHrFM.FEs@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu>
Summary: need info on writing packet sniffer
Sender: news@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 19:57:21 GMT
I need to write a packet sniffer network-related kernel server. I
tried looking at the source for MazeWar, but found it to be beyond
what I would like to do. Really, I'd just like to use the
if_ipackets() function to get the number of packets that come on the
network for a given timeslice. I don't know what the netif_t netif
should be or what the ipackets should be.
Could someone point me to an example of a packet sniffer
network-related kernel server?
Thanks
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From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do the ATI cards compare?
Date: 6 Oct 1993 20:42:40 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <28vak0$sls@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <Oct.4.18.02.10.1993.22440@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
In article <Oct.4.18.02.10.1993.22440@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> BTW...The new Matrox card coming out in mid october will be the memory king, at least for a little while, at 4.5 megs of VRAM on board...It will be able to take ano
ther 4megs of DRAM, which I dont think will be too usefull on NS. The nice thing about this card it can do 1280X1024 at 24 bits, allthough this too may be useless since next needs 32 bits for alpha...
>
Wrong, 24 bit on the card is fine, since the alpha is not
stored in the frame buffer.
Andreas Windemuth
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Trying to reach: James Quick
Message-ID: <1993Oct6.182445.6651@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 18:24:45 GMT
James,
I'm trying to respond to your e-mail at jq%cezanne@uunet.UU.NET, but
it won't get through. Can you give me an alternate address, please?
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
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From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: What is "raising RDP exception"?
Message-ID: <1993Oct6.183558.11890@newshost.lanl.gov>
Keywords: Epson NX, Adaptec, ProAudio
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 18:35:58 GMT
Greetings:
I recently have become the buyer and setter-upper of two Epson NX machines
running NS3.1 (see my posting on Heroic Delivery in c.s.n.misc). Getting them
to run has been a different matter, but even that may now be working right.
The two machines are nominally identical (36 MB, Quantum 525 MB HD's, Adaptec
1540C, ethernet card, Pro Audio sound card), but certainly didn't act that way
coming out of the box. Let me label them NX1 and NX2, where the digit is what
the serial number ends with.
Trying out NX2 first, the initial boot process failed with "Raise RDP exception
LLL code MMM subcode NNNNNNNN; waiting for connection (type 'c' to continue)".
Typing 'c' did nothing but give another exception. I had to power off/on
(physically) to get a reboot, which was successful the second time.
What is an RDP exception? I can't find anything about it in any manual I have
or have access to. My guess is that it may have something to do with
competition for the local bus.
Having gotten NX2 to boot, I then launched Boink-Out in demo mode. It crashed
with another RDP exception (different LLL, MMM, NNNNNNN's) about five or ten
minutes after launch. This time the message came on a Kernal Trap panel. By
now I had learned about <alt-numlock> to get a Restart Panel, but typing 'r'
(or any other key) only kills that panel, does nothing. [Well, maybe not
always--once I think it have have initiated a soft reboot, sort of.] More
power off/on stuff (which I hate) and more long fsck's on the reboot process.
Unpleasant, and an unusable machine, to boot. The RDP exceptions occurred with
lots of other apps besides Boink-Out, such as emacs in an terminal window (!).
So, talking with my vendor, Kris Magnusson of Alpine/Microsage, he indicated
that he saw a similar behavior on NX@, which he thought he had cured before
shipping (in a rush, see the other posting), but the other machine, NX1, was
"rock solid". Conclusion, set up NX1 and see if it works.
It did not, but (surprisingly) there was never a sign of an RDP exception on
NX1. The crash simply occurred about ten minutes into Boink-Out, freezing the
screen and mouse and keyboard, no way to a restart panel, yet more power
off/on, yet more fsck.
That was Saturday. On Monday, on consideration of the bus competition idea,
Kris suggested turning off the ProAudio sound boards (using Configure.app).
That has given an enormous improvement. NX2, the "bad" one, had ONE RDP
exception crash, about three hours into the BO demo, and on restart it ran that
demo for about 23 hours over yesterday and last night without a crash. NX1 has
run the BO demo without trouble since about 8:30 this morning without a glitch.
Well, I/we can live with the sound card turned off, but I'm going to miss the
British lady telling me about my paper jams and out-of-paper problems.
Is there a way to get back our sound cards?
Thanks for any enlightenment.
--
Dick Silbar (NeXTMail OK)
505-667-5253
From: juliana@semlab1.sbs.sunysb.edu (Juliana L. Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: FAX Modems for NS/I
Date: 6 Oct 1993 21:58:44 GMT
Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics
Message-ID: <28vf2k$mb6@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
I have a fax-modem (14400 Boca Modem) that is Hayes compatible. It works
perfectly on NS/I with kermit. Does anyone know if NXFax supports it?
Also, I'll have to buy another fax-modem, does anyone have
recommendations for fax-modems that are supported by NXFax?
Thanks in advance,
Juliana L. Silva
juliana@cs.sunysb.edu
juliana@semlab1.sbs.sunysb.edu (<--NeXT ok)
From: allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu (Allen Y. Tien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: external CD-ROM choice?
Date: 6 Oct 1993 22:45:36 GMT
Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Balitmore, Maryland, USA
Message-ID: <28vhqgINNe74@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Just need some advice on good choice of external CD-ROM to use with a
NeXTStation to upgrade to 3.1. How about a NEC 74 (or 84, whichever is
external). Or others? I do not really need to use it more than a couple
of times so I plan to subsequently use it with a PC (perhaps to install
NS!).
I would appreciate suggestions.
Allen TIen
From: kin@isi.com (Kin Cho)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Re: Large, high-resolution greyscale monitors for 80x86 computers
Date: 5 Oct 1993 23:11:15 -0700
Organization: Integrated Systems, Inc.
Message-ID: <28tni3INNjh@tycho.isi.com>
References: <1993Oct1.152435.21977@rosevax.rosemount.com> <1993Oct4.230719.27867@rosevax.rosemount.com> <CEFtM2.7Ln@encore.com>
In article <CEFtM2.7Ln@encore.com> tma@encore.com (Thanh Ma) writes:
>grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:
>
>Tatung CM14UAS can do 1024x768 NI
I got a Tatung MM-14SAE and it does 1024x768 interlaced.
Works fine with my Cardex ET4000 W32 under NT.
-kin
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-kin
Kin Cho, Principal Engineer (408)980-1590 X230 Fax (408)980-0400
Integrated Systems Inc., 3260 Jay Street, Santa Clara, CA 95054
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Subject: Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
References: <8gglhp600WB8QD0qU1@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 07:24:32 GMT
Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn
Sender: news@pilhuhn.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn)
Message-ID: <CEIn8x.r7@pilhuhn.sub.org>
In article <8gglhp600WB8QD0qU1@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 5-Oct-93 Re: Micropolis
> 1.2 GB drive by Volker Safran@abulafia.i
> >>> This may be accomplishable through some obscure manipulation
> >>> with the program 'disk'.
> >
> > I am interested in this, too. Please post the result. I know, how to do
> > this on Fujitsu Drives with the program "formatter" from the archives,
> > but we definetely had no success to set a DEC DSP3105 drive to
> > 1024Bytes/sector. It is a loss of about 50MByte with this drive!!!
>
> #include <std/disclaimer.h>
> DISCLAIMER: You may do bad things to your disk drive if you follow
> these instructions. I won't be held responsible for any problems that
> may occur.
> #end /* disclaimer */
>
> First, you really should check with the manufacturor of you drive that
> it is in fact capable of handling 1K sectors. There are some disk
> drives out there that will not, and there are others (made by IBM, for
> example), that will pretend to format at 1K, but actually just create a
> logical mapping of 2 physical sectors into 1 larger sector.
> Reformatting these drives will not increase the amount of disk space.
>
> For sanity checking, it would be a good idea to have the vital
> statistics of the drive (# of cylinders, # heads, rpm) and it is a
> *really* good idea to know the number of sectors/track as a function of
> sector size. The manual that came with your drive should have all of
> these in there.
>
> There is a set of SCSI utilities called scsitools.tar.Z available for
> FTP from sonata.cc.purdue.edu in /pub/next/2.0/src. Get them.
>
> Run the sense program on your drive via:
> "sense -t <scsi target number> -p 63 > drive.sense"
>
> Edit this file, *making sure* that you save to a new file, say new.sense.
>
> Change the line:
>
> -mbdf 0006 02 02 # 02 02 02 02
>
> under "# Parameter List Block Descriptor Format" to:
>
> -mbdf 0006 04 04 # 04 04 04 04
>
> and save.
>
>
> This will alter a field from the results of doing a "SCSI inquire",
> doubling the size of the sectors on the disk.
>
> Now, do:
> "select -t <scsi target number> -f new.sense"
>
> which should send the altered blocksize to the disk.
>
> Format the disk using either /usr/etc/disk, and then create labels,
> partitions, filesystems, etc as you would normally.
>
> If your drive was designed correctly, it will detect the new blocksize
> and provide 'disk' with the correct information for the new
> configuration via the SCSI 'mode sense' command. A good check for this
> is that the number of sectors/track should have been cut *almost* in
> half. For example, you should see 65 s/t (about - I don't really
> remember offhand) go to 34 s/t. This is from my drive, a SEAGATE ST1280
> (5822), 250MB hard drive. If you build a filesystem, you should have
> more space available now.
>
> If the drive returns bad information to 'disk' than you will have to
> construct an entry in /etc/disktab with the correct values. Examine
> that file in order to determine what a correct entry should look like.
>
> If you have the option, grab the sense entries from a drive already
> correctly formatted at 1K sectors, instead of doing the modifications
> yourself.
>
> If worst comes to worst, and you can't get the drive to work, you can
> always restore the old mode sense entries via:
>
> "select -t <scsi target number> -f drive.sense"
>
> and reformat.
>
>
> I can't swear that this will work on your drive, but it did on mine, and
> it apparently has for several other disk drives, according to the author
> of scsitools.
>
> Good luck,
> -Chuck
>
>
> Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
> ------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
> AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
> Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
> NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Has anybody tried this with Micropolis drives?
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (Paul Kunz)
Subject: Help with Seagate ST11200N
Message-ID: <CEI7BG.FE9@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 01:40:27 GMT
I've installed a Seagate ST11200N as a replacement disk for NeXT Cube.
I've booted the cube off CDROM in single use mode and when I try to run the
disk command to initialize the disk, I get
ioctl(DKIOCBLKSIZE): invalid argument
Seagate ST11200N; unknown disk name
The disk is recognized while booting and the /usr/etc/scsimodes seems to
work. But nothing I try with the disk command works.
Any ideas?
--
Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cannon BJ820 & compatible printers may work under NS 3.2!!!
Message-ID: <Oct.7.00.51.43.1993.11289@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 7 Oct 93 04:51:43 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi,
I found out (dont ask from where :) that any of the color printers based on the Cannon BJ820 printer may work with NS 3.2. MAY being the operative word... This source said that it should work, but before I go ahead and buy one to test it out. So, I was wondering if anyone has tried any of these printers under NS 3.1 and what kind of results they got...
Cannon BJ820 variants:
1.) Cannon BJ820 (itself :)
2.) Apple Color Printer
3.) IBM/Lexmark Color Printer
4.) NeXT color printer
If you did try these, please post the results to the net, I believe this info would be of use to many.
Later, John
From: rolf@rose.lbl.gov (Rolf Behrsing)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Driver Refresh Rates
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 7 Oct 1993 08:51:39 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratories
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <34516@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
Will NS/I 3.2 have an ATI driver that supports additional refresh rates?
Some of us have color monitors that can't quite handle 72 hertz
at 1024 x 768 and don't want to have to put up with the annoying
flicker of 60 hz screen refreshing.
Rolf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mihe@gordon.enea.se (Mike Henry)
Subject: Re: What is "raising RDP exception"?
Message-ID: <1993Oct7.125002.20902@enea.se>
Keywords: Epson NX, Adaptec, ProAudio
Sender: usenet@enea.se
Organization: ENEA DATA AB, Stockholm, Sweden
References: <1993Oct6.183558.11890@newshost.lanl.gov>
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 12:50:02 GMT
In article <1993Oct6.183558.11890@newshost.lanl.gov> silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) writes:
>LLL code MMM subcode NNNNNNNN; waiting for connection (type 'c' to continue)".
>Typing 'c' did nothing but give another exception. I had to power off/on
>(physically) to get a reboot, which was successful the second time.
>
>What is an RDP exception? I can't find anything about it in any manual I have
>or have access to. My guess is that it may have something to do with
>competition for the local bus.
"RDP" stands for Remote Debug Port, and is used in-house by NeXT to
debug kernel panics remotely from a terminal connected to a serial
port.
Don't worry about the RDP exception itself but the message immediately
prior to it.
> Dick Silbar (NeXTMail OK)
-Mike
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From: jon@starburst.umd.edu (Jonathan Kruger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI Driver Refresh Rates
Date: 7 Oct 1993 13:59:59 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <2917cv$sdi@gamera.umd.edu>
References: <34516@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
rolf@rose.lbl.gov (Rolf Behrsing) writes:
>Some of us have color monitors that can't quite handle 72 hertz
>at 1024 x 768 and don't want to have to put up with the annoying
>flicker of 60 hz screen refreshing.
Some of us also have monitors that can handle 1120x832 at 76 Hz and
don't want to have to put up with 60/68 Hz.
What I want to know is when the ATI driver will start using the
accelerator functions instead of just using the card as a very
expensive dumb frame buffer with lousy performance.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: karthy@musik.auc.dk (Karsten Thygesen)
Subject: Re: My clock is running late (black hardware)
In-Reply-To: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org's message of Sun, 26 Sep 1993 17:19:19 GMT
Message-ID: <KARTHY.93Oct7161846@musik.auc.dk>
Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News)
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Aalborg
References: <1993Sep26.171919.3644@nidat.sub.org>
Date: 07 Oct 1993 15:18:46 GMT
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Sep 1993 17:19:19 GMT, Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) said:
Peter> Subject tells almost all.
If you install 3.1, you will discover that the clock will be much more
precise - the drift is a well known problem and is fixed in 3.1
Regards,
Karsten.
--
Karsten Thygesen <karthy@musik.auc.dk> - NeXT-Mail OK
Aalborg University - Dept. of Music and Music Therapi
Krogstraede 6 room 38, DK-9220 Aalborg East - Denmark
Phone: +45 - 98158522 # 3112 Telefax: +45 - 98151382
From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: SMC Ethernet card does not work!
Date: 7 Oct 1993 16:07:55 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <291esr$jdo@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
I am having serious trouble getting my ALR Evolution V/60,
otherwise a magnificent NEXTSTEP system, connected to the
ethernet.
I have a SMC EtherCard Elite Ultra, which according to
previous reports on the net should work with NS/Intel.
I configured it as prescribed in the Nextanswers document
for the SMC Elite 16, and it is properly registered at
boot time as "en0" with an ethernet address assigned, at
280 I/O address and IRQ 10, just as it should. However,
nothing network related works, i.e. the machine does not
find its network server, "ping" has a 100% packet loss, etc.
The LED on the board, however, occasionally blinks
(presumably because of network traffic) and ping to
the local internet address (the self-address) as well
as to loopback (127.0.0.1) work correctly.
Do I need to get another card or is there some other
solution to the problem? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Andreas Windemuth
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rk related works, i.e. the machine does not
find its network server, "ping" has a 100% packet loss, etc.
The LED on the board, however, occasionally blinks
(presumably because of network traffic) and ping to
the local internet address (the self-address) as well
as to loopback (127.0.0.1) work correctly.
Do I need to get another card or is there some other
solution to the problem? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Andreas Windemuth
+--------------------------------------------------------------------
|Columbia University, Dept. of B
From: ah@moolah.fml.tuwien.ac.at (Andreas Haleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,at.tuwien.general
Subject: Re: S3-928 driver speed query.
Date: 7 Oct 1993 17:01:56 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <291i24$c1b@email.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <MCGLK.93Oct5122029@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
In article <MCGLK.93Oct5122029@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) writes:
> Wellllllllll, I'm still lusting after the 1280x1024x16b video of the
S3-928
> that comes with the DEC MTE, but nobody has posted video benchmarks.
>
> I know that the ATI GUP has about 40% of the video performance of the
> Colorstation Turbo, and that the Dell DGX has about 120% that of the CT.
But
> does *anyone* have information on the S3-928 yet, in 1280x1024 mode?
>
I finally got 3MB additional VRAM for the S3-928. Following you will find
the results reported by NXBench.
S3-928 (4MB) ATI Ultra Pro
1024*768*16,72Hz 1280*1024*16,60Hz 1024*786*16,72Hz
NXFactor: 0.85 0.84 0.76
Line: 0.77 0.74 0.67
Arc/Bezier: 0.75 0.71 0.64
Fill: 0.57 0.56 0.51
Transform: 1.55 1.58 1.48
Composite: 0.66 0.62 0.56
Userpath: 1.68 1.70 1.56
Text: 0.53 0.52 0.48
Window: 0.31 0.31 0.22
All tests ran on a DEC MTE 66DX2, 24MB RAM installed.
For all the people who are not familiar with NXBench: This program
computes numbers relative to a Nextstation 68040 25Mhz Mono (i.e. 2 bit
gray). If you started the program on such a machine, all numbers reported
would be 1.0. All the tests for the PC were performed with 16 bit color,
so you see performance of graphics cards for the PC is not so bad
(NXFactor for 8 bit gray is about 2.0).
I don't have the results for the Next color station (could somebody post
them), but I do not believe that the ATI GUP only performs at 40%. I am
absolutely sure that there is not such a big difference between the ATI
and the Dell DGX.
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From: pasqua@adobe.com
Subject: Re: ATI Driver Refresh Rates
Message-ID: <1993Oct7.164747.16962@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <2917cv$sdi@gamera.umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 16:47:47 GMT
In article <2917cv$sdi@gamera.umd.edu> jon@starburst.umd.edu (Jonathan Kruger)
writes:
> [some stuff deleted]
>
> What I want to know is when the ATI driver will start using the
> accelerator functions instead of just using the card as a very
> expensive dumb frame buffer with lousy performance.
There are three things standing in the way of this:
1. The features provided by most of these accelerators usually don't map
very well onto the features that the Window server would like to see.
For instance, when the window server specifies a shape, it uses sub-
pixel positions. The window server could take advantage of things like
screen to screen blts and hardware cursors.
2. The current system architecture places all of the "smarts" of drawing in
the hands of the window server. The device driver is very simple and very
low level. It is not responsible for drawing lines, text, etc. Take a look
at the DriverKit documentation for more details.
3. Most drawing in NEXTSTEP occurs in off screen windows. Virtually no (PC)
accelerators allow this. They allow drawing only into the framebuffer.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
From: js@balu (Juergen Sell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printer fuse / where and how ?
Date: 7 Oct 1993 15:37:56 GMT
Organization: ICEM Systems
Message-ID: <291d4k$mmm@balu.hnv.icem.de>
Hello,
my newly purchased used NeXT Laser Printer does not start.
I hope it's just the fuse(s ?) which leads to the question :
Where is/are the fuse(s) in the NeXT Printer and how to get there?
Thanks, Juergen
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From: jeffreym@doppio.berkeley.edu (Jeffrey McCullough)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 14.4 modems
Date: 7 Oct 1993 20:26:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <291u11$pa1@agate.berkeley.edu>
Does anyone have recommendations about good 14.4 modems to use with a 25 mhz
slab or is there a ftp site where such information is stored. Also, where is
the cheapest place to get an appropriate cable?
Thanks,
Jeffrey McCullough
jeffreym@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Jeff Adams
Subject: WANTED: NeXTStation Color system
Message-ID: <1993Oct7.185822.15418@wri.com>
Keywords: wanted
Sender: news@wri.com ( )
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 18:58:22 GMT
I didn't see a comp.sys.next.wanted so I hope this is the appropriate
place:
WANTED:
NeXTStation Color (Turbo or Non-Turbo) System
Minimum configuration that I am interested in is:
17" or 21" Color Monitor
NeXTStation Color (Turbo or Non-Turbo)
400MB HardDrive (minimum)
Current memory is not an issue as I can always get more
Laser Printer is defintely important though not essential.
Software is not an issue either.
If you are interested in selling, I would be interested in your
configuration and the price that you would be willing to
sell your system for. Thanks.
PS: This is a personal purchase and my employer is not involved
whatsoever.
Jeff Adams
jeffa@wri.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd)
Subject: 3.1 & PLI floppy drive problems.
Message-ID: <CEJor6.MBJ@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 20:54:42 GMT
Hi,
I have a friend using an external PLI floppy drive with a cube running 3.1
and he is having some problems. The exact same machine when booted under
2.1 has no problems at all and works fine with the floppy drive.
Unfortunately I am not local to him and don't have one of these drives so I
can't muck around to see what the problem is up close. The floppy is sd1
and there is a hard disk at sd0.
Any clues? Console and disk errors follow.
Thanks,
Chris
Console errors -----
DISK UNFORMATTED
probing for DOS
probing for CDROM
SCSI IO status error
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9
sd1 (3,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x12
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
unix_rw: read/write: I/O error
macfs: ERROR: mac unix_read_write: FAILED on second i/o
SCSI IO status error
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9
sd1 (3,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x12
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
unix_rw: read/write: I/O error
macfs: ERROR: mac unix_read_write: FAILED on second i/o
probing for mac
probing for cdaudio
/usr/etc/disk -i -h aahz -l "Cables" /dev/rsd1a
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8
Target 3: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9
sd1 (3,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x12
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
Read of sector 0 failed
--
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From: rruth@studio.disney.com (Richard Ruth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Serial Ports -- Need More (68040)
Date: 7 Oct 1993 20:30:39 GMT
Organization: The Walt Disney Company
Message-ID: <291u9f$5mr@angmar.sat.disney.com>
Keywords: serial port
I need more than two serial ports on my NeXT Station. Are there any
companies that provide a solution for this need?
Thanks.
Richard
rruth@studio.disney.com
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From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Subject: Diamond Stealth Pro isn't compatible with new S3 driver
Message-ID: <CEJMH9.EIH@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 20:05:28 GMT
If anyone is interested in buying an S3 928 video card to run
NS/FIP, the Diamond Stealth is not conmpatible with the new
S3-driver. It worked fine under Windows, so I know it was
installed correctly. Oh well, I guess I must pay big bucks
for the ATI.
Brad Wright
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From: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: CDPlayer.app doesn't work..... Help
Message-ID: <CEJsKn.GFM@eecs.nwu.edu>
Sender: usenet@eecs.nwu.edu
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 22:17:10 GMT
Can someone answer my questions?
The CD-ROM Player is currently hooked to a NeXTStation along with an external
SCSI disk. Workspace recognizes the new CD insertion with NS3.1 disks. File
Readings on these disks are not a problem at all. However, a music CD gets
ejected all the time that CDPlayer.app doesn't seem to accept the CDs. This
used to work when the CD-ROM player is the only SCSI device connected to my
NeXT.
Thanks in advance.
Gary
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: questions about my prospective system
Date: 7 Oct 1993 15:42:52 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <29261c$sn4@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
I have a few questions about a prospective system I'm going to purchase
to run nextstep on.
I am going to buy a nice super eisa dx2-66. I'll put 4
4mbx9 70ns simms in it. An ATI GUP lb card, revision 6,
Viewsonic v17 17" monitor,
adaptec 1540b scsi card
Fuji scsi hard drive
5.25 & 3.5" floppys
16550 serial ports
logitec compatible bus mouse. (3 button)
This mouse should be compatible, right?
As I understand it, any serial mouse (2 or 3 button), any logitech compatible
bus mouse, just not microsoft bus mouses are compatible.
About the 2 floppys. next doesn't work with 5.25's, right? Willl I have
a problem if the 3.5" happens to be the b drive?
Next only supports 2 serial ports, right?
-nick
ps just for the hell of it, the prices:
memory: $480
monitor: $1050
scsi card: $120
cpu, case, floppys, ati card etc: $1500
hard disk (free, i already own it)
total: $3150
From: ren@nin.asd.sgi.com (Ron Nikel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Next CD-ROM under NS 3.0
Date: 7 Oct 1993 22:25:15 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29250b$bil@fido.asd.sgi.com>
Hi,
I just got a NeXT CD-ROM drive and have it running on
a Station under NS 3.0. Question is I tested it running
as root to play an audio CD. Does not work, I have identified
it as everything from device #2 - #6. No change in its operation.
I boot from an external SCSI drive which is now sd0 and my
internal is sd1. What do I have to do to get this up and
running, I know this was already discussed some time ago, but
can't seem to find the discussion.
Ron.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu (Richard Wagner)
Subject: Tseng 4000 display. Help!
Message-ID: <wagner.1686.2CB474C4@main.mndly.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: the Minnesota Daily
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 19:57:56 GMT
I know, I know, I should upgrade the video. We'll were buying a whole new
system but not for at least a month. I'd really like to be able to get to
know this wonderful new operating system at something other then 640x480
resolution right now. Seeing NS/I in the 1024x768 mode is my goal.
What happens is that no monitor that I've tried (even a 20' monitor capable
of syncing to 90Hz vertical) is able to sync to whatever output the card is
generating. I've tried two different Tseng 4000 based cards, including an
Orchid ProDesigner II and a new SigmaVGALegend II.
I thought I remembered people having problems with Tseng cards but none of
the stuff on ftp.next.com and none of the last 3500 messages here mention
hide nor hair of it.
Does anybody have any clue what might be wrong?
Thanks.
Rick W.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: HPLaserJet 4ML doesn't work with NS/I (?)
Message-ID: <1993Oct7.232023.10651@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 23:20:23 GMT
Greetings,
In our year-end zeal to spend out a disappearing costcode, we bought two
HP-4ML printers to go with our new Epson NX NeXTSTEP machines. Having (sort
of) gotten past the RDP Exception problem (by removing the sound card), I then
wondered about how to use the printers.
They won't work. The HP-4ML apparently only comes with a plug that cables
into the parallel port, not the serial port. And (almost) all the drivers in
PrintManager expect a serial connection.
Before I give up and return these well-reviewed printers for credit on much
more expensive laser printers that ARE supported by NS/I, let me ask: does
anyone know how to get the HP 4ML's to work with NS/I?
Thanks,
Dick Silbar (NeXTMail OK)
505-667-5253
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: New ATI driver problems
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 8 Oct 1993 00:42:16 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <292d19$1si@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <1993Sep29.145658.14557@crash> <stone.93Oct4192334@virus.cosy>
I get a completely black screen on a 6-mo old Intel GX/Pro with a ($2,500) NEC
6fg monitor in 1280*1024*8 60Hz mode. It cannot be the monitor.
I have run this monitor at 1280*1024 74Hz NI under Windoze a while ago.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: moose@moose.nosc.mil (James B. Moosmann)
Subject: How to make CDPlayer.app run work
Message-ID: <1993Oct8.003211.15538@nosc.mil>
Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News)
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 00:32:11 GMT
As root in a terminal window:
cd /NeXTDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app
chmod 4755 CDPlayer
Log out and log in as any user and now it will work!
--
James Moosmann mail: moose@antilles.nosc.mil
work:(703)602-8080/3574 fax:703-602-8046 home: 786-0807
From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: QUIET 1G 3.5" drive wanted...
Message-ID: <3647@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 8 Oct 93 13:55:35 GMT
References: <1993Sep30.190517.20929@icaen.uiowa.edu> <28uiep$svu@ftp-p.mccaw.com> <1993Oct07.230858.10732@crash>
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
Followup-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
In article <1993Oct07.230858.10732@crash> rjq@crash.cts.com (Ron Quillin) writes:
>Might also want to check out the new Conner drive. It formats to 1.3G
>and runs really cool as well. About $1000 last pricing here in San Diego.
But in the September issue of BYTE, in the BYTE/NSTL Lab Report, they
test 1-2g drives and have this to say about the Conner CP-31370: "The
Conner drive has a single segment cache design, which makes it a poor
choice for a multitasking ot multithreaded operating system." Taking the
top honors, the Seagate ST12550N Barracuda 2.1gig.
--
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** Networked Information Services / Technical Services **
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck)
Subject: SCSI DAT drive on NS/I, how to change hostname
Message-ID: <QN1HBS8L@math.fu-berlin.de>
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 16:01:16 GMT
I have two unrelated questions on NS/Intel.
I'm trying to use an HP SCSI DAT drive connected to an Adaptec 1542B.
The Adaptec driver doesn't seem to be detecting the DAT drive (this is
a drive borrowed from a friend's NeXTStation Turbo, so I know it works
with NeXTSTEP). I've already checked the obvious things, i.e. termination,
cabling, etc. I know the Adaptec is good, I usually use it with a NeXT
CD-ROM. I tried the DAT at SCSI ID's 0, 1, and 4. I get "no such device
or address" when I try to access /dev/rst0 (this is the device my friend
uses on his NeXTStation). There are no other SCSI devices on the bus (I
have IDE hard drives). Any ideas?
My other question is this: How does one set the hostname on a standalone
machine? I tried using Hostmanager.app, but the machine just hung when
I rebooted it. On NeXTStep/Motorola it will complain about not being
attached to the network, but then continue without a network. But on NS/I
I can't seem to get past this. Any help is appreciated.
--
Tim Buck "If I don't do anything I'm ashamed of, I won't
timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu have anything to worry about. Now, getting rid
rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu of the shame, that's the hard part."
From: jonesc@tsunami.intel.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: S3-928 driver speed query.
Date: 08 Oct 93 10:24:24
Organization: Intel Corporation
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <jonesc.93Oct8102424@tsunami>
References: <MCGLK.93Oct5122029@yang.cpac.washington.edu> <291i24$c1b@email.tuwien.ac.at>
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Just for comparison, here are the NXBench (NXFactor) graphics performance results for the NeXTStation (Turbo and standard) and for the ATI Mach32 on-board the Intel Pro/GX (the soon to be released model):
Resolution: 1024 X 768 16-bit
Pro/GX (Rev.6 chipset): 0.840
NeXTStation Turbo Color: 0.785
NeXTStation Color: 0.578
The NeXTStation results were obtained from the author of NXBench. The Pro/GX results are my own.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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503.696.5756 - work
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From: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca
Subject: SUMMARY: CD ROM Drive recommendations
Message-ID: <1993Oct8.173541.16728@instep.wimsey.bc.ca>
Sender: brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (Bradley Head)
Organization: InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 17:35:41 GMT
I was looking for a CD-ROM drive with the following features:
* SCSI Interface.
* Multi-session Photo CD capable
* High Sierra, ISO 9660, etc...
* Music CD capable with Stereo RCA Outputs, volume control.
* Known to work with PhotoAlbum.app and CDPlayer.app, etc...
* Best-Buy price point.
SUMMARY of responses:
APPLE CD-300
* SCSI Interface
* ISO 9660, High Sierra, Mac CD, etc...
* Multi-session PHOTO-CD
* Works with PhotoAlbum.app and CDPlayer.app
* RCA Jacks on the back for stereo output.
* Fast access
* Supposedly possible to access the tracks of audio thru SCSI interface
* Price $400 approx.
TOSHIBA 3401 B
* SCSI Interface
* ISO 9660, etc...
* Multi-session PHOTO-CD
* Works with CDPlayer.app (should work with PhotoAlbum.app)
* RCA Jacks on the back for stereo output.
* Front miniplug.
* Fast access.
* Price $550 approx
NEC MULTISPIN 74
* SCSI-2
* ISO 9660, etc...
* Multi-session PHOTO-CD
* Music CD capable
* Fast access
* Price $450 approx.
You are welcome to add to this list.
Brad.
--
Bradley Head
Software Developer, InStep Mobile Communications Inc.
brad@instep.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail accepted)
604 872-7116 fax: 604 872-7125
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: S3-928 driver speed query.
Date: 8 Oct 93 11:50:03
Organization: Dubious.
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <MCGLK.93Oct8115003@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
References: <MCGLK.93Oct5122029@yang.cpac.washington.edu> <291i24$c1b@email.tuwien.ac.at>
<jonesc.93Oct8102424@tsunami>
In-reply-to: jonesc@tsunami.intel.com's message of 8 Oct 93 17:24:24 GMT
jonesc@tsunami.intel.com writes:
| Just for comparison, here are the NXBench (NXFactor) graphics performance
| results for the NeXTStation (Turbo and standard) and for the ATI Mach32
| on-board the Intel Pro/GX (the soon to be released model):
|
| Resolution: 1024 X 768 16-bit [...]
|
| Pro/GX (Rev.6 chipset): 0.840
| NeXTStation Turbo Color: 0.785
| NeXTStation Color: 0.578
Oh, very good, Cory. You're comparing the NeXTstations to something which runs
at a lower resolution. This is probably useful information, in some sense, but
what about a *comparable* resolution?
---Ken McGlothlen
mcglk@cpac.washington.edu
mcglk@cpac.bitnet
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HPLaserJet 4ML doesn't work with NS/I (?)
Date: 8 Oct 1993 18:24:00 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <294b80$1t2@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1993Oct7.232023.10651@newshost.lanl.gov>
In article <1993Oct7.232023.10651@newshost.lanl.gov>,
Dick Silbar <silbar@cantina.lanl.gov> wrote:
>Greetings,
>
> In our year-end zeal to spend out a disappearing costcode, we bought two
>HP-4ML printers to go with our new Epson NX NeXTSTEP machines. Having (sort
>of) gotten past the RDP Exception problem (by removing the sound card), I then
>wondered about how to use the printers.
>
> They won't work. The HP-4ML apparently only comes with a plug that cables
>into the parallel port, not the serial port. And (almost) all the drivers in
>PrintManager expect a serial connection.
>
If you have a parallel port that can be configured at the right address
(378H?) you should be able to use the 4ML. There's a bug in
the parallel port driver that does not allow you to change this address.
I have a 4ML on my NS/I (gateway machine) and it works fine. There's
no PPD file, but some of the APPLE laserwriters PPD's work fine.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mross@antigone.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 modems
Message-ID: <1993Oct8.175717.1041@antigone.com>
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
References: <291u11$pa1@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 17:57:17 GMT
Jeffrey McCullough (jeffreym@doppio.berkeley.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone have recommendations about good 14.4 modems to use with a 25 mhz
: slab or is there a ftp site where such information is stored. Also, where is
: the cheapest place to get an appropriate cable?
Black & White software not only makes NXFax, an excellent fax driver, but they will
sell you a ZyXEL modem pretty cheap. <nxfax@bandw.com>
NeXTconnection will sell you the cable if B&W doesn't. 800-800-NEXT.
--
Michael Ross
Antigone Press, San Francisco, California
e-mail: mross@antigone.com
FAX: +1 415 431 3650
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
Date: 8 Oct 93 16:25:23
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Oct8162523@nic.gac.edu>
References: <8gglhp600WB8QD0qU1@andrew.cmu.edu> <CEIn8x.r7@pilhuhn.sub.org>
In-reply-to: jr@sade.ka.sub.org's message of Thu, 7 Oct 1993 07:24:32 GMT
In article <8gglhp600WB8QD0qU1@andrew.cmu.edu>,
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> If you have the option, grab the sense entries from a drive
> already correctly formatted at 1K sectors, instead of doing the
> modifications yourself.
OK, then, does anyone have the correct files to format these two
drives to 1024 byte sectors:
# This is the drive that was bundled Long Long Ago in NeXTStations.
# I'm using it as a "just in case" NS2.1 though it works well as
# giant swapdisk in normal usage ...
SEAGATE ST1480 Rev 5129 as sd1 at sc0 target 1 lun 0
Disk Label: Disk
Disk Capacity 406MB, Device Block 512 bytes
# This is our ever-popular DEC drive that has worked wonderfully
# for me thus far, but I'd like to snarf an extra couple Meg from
# it.
DEC DSP3105S Rev 386E as sd0 at sc0 target 0 lun 0
Disk Label: Disk
Disk Capacity 1001MB, Device Block 512 bytes
Obviously, I want to know if anyone has been successful before I
elect to turn my nice drives into clunky paperweights ...
[Perhaps somebody needs to collect sense files that work for different
drives and bundle them into scsitools. Perhaps that someone is me,
though I can only _test_ the above two drives.]
[Well, OK, I could probably hack with:
SEAGATE ST3283N Rev 9303 as sd0 at sc0 target 2 lun 0
Disk Label: 3.1 Release
Disk Capacity 247MB, Device Block 1024 bytes
too, but obviously it doesn't really need this :-). Though I could
include a sense file for it, I guess.]
> If worst comes to worst, and you can't get the drive to work, you
> can always restore the old mode sense entries via:
>
> "select -t <scsi target number> -f drive.sense"
>
> and reformat.
This is one of those things that makes me a little frightened.
Sure, that's how it _should_ work, but does it? :-). "Things that
make you go hmmmm"
I am,
--
scott hess <scott@nic.gac.edu> <I can handle NeXTMail, but don't like it>
12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
<C++: ... One Language to bring them all and in the darkness bind them>
<In the Land of Redmond where the Shadows lie.>
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From: smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov (Howard C. Smith)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu 1.0GB M2694ESA inside the NeXTStation Color
Message-ID: <1993Oct8.233329.28109@alw.nih.gov>
Keywords: M2694ESA
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
References: <garycCEKBMn.L9x@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 23:33:29 GMT
In article <garycCEKBMn.L9x@netcom.com> garyc@netcom.com (Gary I. Chang)
writes:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone ever put a Fujitsu 1.0GB M2694ESA inside the NeXTStation?
> Does it run HOT installed internally? Does it require lengthy setup or
> specialy mounting bracket? I'm tempting to buy one from NCA for $869....
>
> Spec:
>
> 1.0 GB 256K Cache 10ms 3.5"
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Gary
Fuji M2694ESA works like a charm in a station.
No special brackets required
(assuming you still have the original NeXT bracket
that comes on the 100MB & 250MB drives)
Change ONLY the Synchronous mode jumper (dip switch)
from the factory default and your're in business. If
you let the drive run a while and open the case, its
rather warm 95-100 degrees, but the surrounding board
and case are around room temperature. I dont really
know what constitutes "hot".
--
Howard C. Smith
National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
111 T.W. Alexander Drive
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
smith@nextone.niehs.nih.gov
(919) 541-7594
From: jonesc@tsunami
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: S3-928 driver speed query.
Date: 08 Oct 93 16:41:58
Organization: Intel Corporation
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <jonesc.93Oct8164158@tsunami>
References: <MCGLK.93Oct5122029@yang.cpac.washington.edu> <291i24$c1b@email.tuwien.ac.at> <jonesc.93Oct8102424@tsunami> <MCGLK.93Oct8115003@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
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I used the 1024 X 768 16-bit resolution because the 1120X832 ATI resolution isn't officially supported yet - and it doesn't work on rev3 chipsets. It is still useful to see how the standard NS/I resolution (1024 X 768 for most hardware) compares to the color NeXT machines.
Here's the result of NXBench on the Pro/GX in 1120 X 832 16-bit:
Pro/GX (1120 X 832): 0.793
Pro/GX (1024 X 768): 0.840
NeXTStation Turbo Color (1120 X 832): 0.785
NeXTStation Color (1120 X 832): 0.578
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503.696.5756 - work
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: S3-928 driver speed query.
Message-ID: <1993Oct8.130432.28291@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <preussCEKIno.M72@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 13:04:32 GMT
In article <preussCEKIno.M72@netcom.com> preuss@netcom.com (Peter
Preuss) writes:
> Would you mind posting the brand name and types of S3-928 based
> graphics cards (preferably VLB) and possibly known to play NEXTSTEP?
The best ones, for NEXTSTEP, seem to be from Metheus and Actix. I'm
continuing testing today, and hope to report positive results (along
with exact product specifications), later today.
There are also boards from other vendors (such as Diamond), but these
(I'm told) have changes to S3's BIOS, and are less likely (?) to work
with NEXTSTEP.
More later,
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ez@isc.com (Ezra Goldman)
Subject: Digital camera - how to catch a face?
Message-ID: <1993Oct08.204856.25105@i88.isc.com>
Sender: usenet@i88.isc.com (Usenet News)
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1993 20:48:56 GMT
In article <28t67bINNa1m@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> marple@cs.ubc.ca (Kirk Marple)
writes:
> Can anyone tell me what, if any, digital video support exists for
> NeXTStep/Intel? I'm looking for video capture and/or compression cards
> that NS/I supports.
I need to capture someone's face, imaged by either a digital camera or a video camera image, in a form I can use within an NSFIP app. Beyond the
cards that Kirk was asking for, can anyone recommend or suggest camera
systems?
Thanks in advance for your time!
--Ez
ez@isc.com
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 20:33:29 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <IghUPNe00WB80MIHBf@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <SCOTT.93Oct8162523@nic.gac.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-Oct-93 Re: Micropolis
1.2 GB drive by Scott Hess@nic.gac.edu
> Obviously, I want to know if anyone has been successful before I
> elect to turn my nice drives into clunky paperweights ...
I have been sucessful with my Seagate ST1280 (250MB), 2 Fujitsu 2263S
drives (I think that's the number, they're the 1.1 GB model), and I
mostly got a Seagate Elite (2.9 GB) working, but I forgot that you can
only have 2 GB partitions, and my company wanted to move the drive to
another machine (a Sun SPARCstation IPX), so I didn't try repartitioning.
I would recommend talking to the manufacteror of your drive and possibly
the reseller that actually sold it to you.
From them, you should be able to get the "extended" manual for your
drive that details exactly what all of the SCSI sense page parameters do
so that you can intelligently alter them on your drive. You could tune
the caching parameters for better performance, for example.
The standard manuals (which are smaller) don't include the sense page
info, but most manuals will include information such as the supported
block sizes and number of sectors per track at different block sizes.
> [Perhaps somebody needs to collect sense files that work for different
> drives and bundle them into scsitools. Perhaps that someone is me,
> though I can only _test_ the above two drives.]
If you have the option, you could try to change the low-level blocksize
on another machine (I'd assume there's lots of low-level IBM PC
formatters that can do this), and then moving the drive back to your
NeXT to recreate the label & partitioning info. You could ollect the
sense pages at this point for future reference.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kloubek@beaufort.sfu.ca (Bill Kloubek)
Subject: Memory problems on a Cube
Message-ID: <kloubek.750129136@sfu.ca>
Summary: Memory problems on a Cube
Keywords: diagnostics
Sender: news@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 01:12:16 GMT
I'm looking for any sort of diagnostics program which will track down a
memory problem I seem to have on my cube.
If I boot the machine and then let it sit there; it will go dead.. REALLY
dead - cannot access it over the wire (telnet/ping/ftp), and cannot do
anything on the keyboard (power key even). The only thing I'm able to
do at that point is the "hard reboot"
I have heard of some "diagnostics" for the 68040 cube motherboard and
memory; was wondering if anybody could point me in the right track...
I'm running NS 3.0 off a 68040/32MB, if that's relevant..
Thanks in advance! (I sincerely hope!)
From: ahh@shoshin.Sun.COM (Aslam Haswarey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT OD question?
Date: 9 Oct 1993 01:37:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2954lc$3e8@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
Hi,
Is it true that the NeXT OD is an ESDI device? If so, has anyone tried hooking
up a ESDI HD in place of the OD & gotten it to work successfully?
---
regards
-Aslam Haswarey <ahh@shoshin.Sun.COM>
From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pro Audio Spectrum 16 problems
Date: 9 Oct 1993 01:50:55 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <2955dvINNf16@gap.caltech.edu>
References: <smcgrew.93Sep29212317@theocean>
smcgrew@theocean writes:
>Well I need some help.
>I am using a pro Audio 16 card and am having a hell of a time.
>I know that it is not supposed to work perfectly but hell I can't even get the thing
>to work long enough to tell me if I have mail or not!
>I have :
>ALR evolution V pentium machine ISA backplane with 3 VL local bus slots
>Adaptec 1542b scsi card
>plenty of RAM and DIsk space
>intel Etherexpress card
>ATI vesa graphics adapter.
>I would appreciate any insight that I can get in regard to this problem..
>thank you ...
You aren't going to want to hear this, but the pro Audio 16 card will
not run on the ALR Evolution V running NSI. Whenever the sound device
is used the system will crash and reboot itself.
Tal Lancaster
>steve
>smcgrew@theocean.uoregon.edu
--
The Principal from "Buffy, The Vampire Slayer",
"I think the students learned an important lesson on safety."
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: An S3-928 add-in card that works.
Message-ID: <1993Oct8.221019.8348@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 22:10:19 GMT
After *much* searching and testing, I have found that the Actix
GraphicsENGINE Ultra VLplus, with 2 Meg of VRAM, an S3-928 based board
(with BT RAMDAC) works with NeXT's S3 driver. [For what it's worth,
this board got _PC Magazine_'s Editor's Choice award earlier this
year.]
I have only one remaining dissatisfaction, though this may have to do
with my monitor, rather than the card or the driver (please see
below).
I have tested the following modes, displaying on a Sony 1730:
Mode Driver Name in Configure.app
1024x768x8 bit grey @ 70Hz S3 (PS/2 ValuePoint)...
800x600x16 bit color @ 60Hz S3 (PS/2 ValuePoint)...
1024x768x16 bit color @ 60Hz S3 Graphics Adapter*
1024x768x16 bit color @ 72HZ S3 Graphics Adapter*
* using default memory mapping address from "ValuePoint" config.
The first two modes work very well. The third mode works okay, but
the image is not as stable (flicker-free) as we would like --but is
equivalent to the ATI performance in this mode, on the same system.
The fourth mode is not as good as the third mode --there is a
continuous pulsing. I have tried to get rid of the pulsing by
adjusting switches on the hardware, but it won't go away. Please note
that the same configuration, with an ATI instead of the Actix, runs
the fourth mode (1024x768x16bit color @ 72 Hz) with no flicker or
pulsing --it's just beautiful, but not as fast (please see below).
I hope that NeXT will add a new mode to the driver (1024x768x16bit
color @ 70 Hz) and that this will improve the display on my Sony,
which is a fantastic display, in my opinion.
Here are the results from NWBench.app on a system with 24 Meg of RAM,
but no RAM cache (adding 256K of RAM cache boosts overall performance
by 4 or 5 MIPS and speeds up the graphics also, but I don't have one
of these configurations available to me today)...
Graphics Mode: 1024x768x16 bit color at 72 Hz.
[Note: Smaller is better]
V/V D/V
ATI Ultra Pro VL
with 2 Meg 29.536 19.456
Actix GraphicsENGINE
Ultra VLplus with 2 Meg 22.83 18.72
This board is available from Lexar Open Systems (an OEM distributor
for this board), for about $450. To order one, call 609-890-9000,
extension 12, or send e-mail to <kamenos@phoenix.princeton.edu>;
e-mail is forwarded to Lexar Open Systems.
With all good wishes,
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
From: mcglk@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: S3-928 driver speed query.
Date: 8 Oct 93 20:23:33
Organization: Dubious.
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <MCGLK.93Oct8202333@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
References: <MCGLK.93Oct5122029@yang.cpac.washington.edu> <291i24$c1b@email.tuwien.ac.at>
<jonesc.93Oct8102424@tsunami>
<MCGLK.93Oct8115003@yang.cpac.washington.edu>
<jonesc.93Oct8164158@tsunami>
In-reply-to: jonesc@tsunami's message of 8 Oct 93 23:41:58 GMT
jonesc@tsunami.intel.com writes (without using carriage returns :) ):
| I used the 1024 X 768 16-bit resolution because the 1120X832 ATI resolution
| isn't officially supported yet - and it doesn't work on rev3 chipsets. [...]
|
| Here's the result of NXBench on the Pro/GX in 1120 X 832 16-bit:
| Pro/GX (1120 X 832): 0.793
| Pro/GX (1024 X 768): 0.840
| NeXTStation Turbo Color (1120 X 832): 0.785
| NeXTStation Color (1120 X 832): 0.578
Thanks, Cory. That's actually promising. Will the Pro/GX support 1280x1024 in
16-bit color? If so, how fast?
Doesn't NXBench.app report several numbers, for line-drawing, arc-bezier
drawing, and so on? If so, what are those numbers in comparison? If not,
which app does that, and can we see the results?
Finally, when will the Pro/GX be available, and how much will it be? What's
the CPU? EISA or ISA?
But this still doesn't have anything to do with the S3-928 speed, either. :)
---Ken McGlothlen
mcglk@cpac.washington.edu
mcglk@cpac.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Subject: Re: How do the ATI cards compare?
Message-ID: <Oct6.151543.74689@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 15:15:43 GMT
References: <28pqs3$6rp@news.acns.nwu.edu> <Oct.4.15.06.48.1993.3232@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <Oct.4.18.02.10.1993.22440@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
> BTW...The new Matrox card coming out in mid october will be the
> memory king, at least for a little while, at 4.5 megs of VRAM
> on board...It will be able to take another 4megs of DRAM, which
> I dont think will be too usefull on NS. The nice thing about
> this card it can do 1280X1024 at 24 bits, allthough this too
> may be useless since next needs 32 bits for alpha...
One more time, can we say it all together?
*** Alpha values are not stored in the framebuffer ***
They are an artificial invention used for offscreen compositing.
Period. Does the cube have 512k of VRAM? No, it had 256k. Did
the NeXTstation Color have 2MB of VRAM? No, it had 1.5MB.
*** Alpha values are not stored in the framebuffer ***
The ONLY reason NeXTSTEP uses a 16-bit mode on Intel video cards
is that there ISN'T a 12-bit mode. NS 3.2 will use 24-bit mode
"the way god intended".
I wonder if Post ever considered suing NeXT for the use of
AlphaBits :-)
--
Blake W. Stone | DKW Systems Corporation
Chief Technical Officer | A N[EXTSTEP,eXT[STEP,step,Step]] VAR
bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca |
| ... couldn't have been ME
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu 1.0GB M2694ESA inside the NeXTStation Color
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 11:38:42 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4ghhg2e00WB20dGd4o@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <1993Oct8.233329.28109@alw.nih.gov>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-Oct-93 Re: Fujitsu 1.0GB
M2694ESA .. by Howard C. Smith
> If you let the drive run a while and open the case, its
> rather warm 95-100 degrees, but the surrounding board
> and case are around room temperature. I dont really
> know what constitutes "hot".
Just make sure that you don't run your machine with the case off!
NeXT machines have the airflow carefully designed, and things don't get
cooled correctly with the cover off.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How do the ATI cards compare?
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 11:44:12 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <QghhlAK00WB20dGf8K@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Oct6.151543.74689@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 6-Oct-93 Re: How do the
ATI cards co.. by Blake Stone
>
> I wonder if Post ever considered suing NeXT for the use of AlphaBits :-)
Congratulations, sir.
*That* remark deserves applause...
...and a firing squad! <grin>
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 2.0 GB drive limit (was Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive)
Date: 9 Oct 1993 20:38:41 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2977gh$fvk@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <IghUPNe00WB80MIHBf@andrew.cmu.edu>
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>mostly got a Seagate Elite (2.9 GB) working, but I forgot that you can
>only have 2 GB partitions, and my company wanted to move the drive to
Does anyone have a definitive number for the largest a partition can
be? I have a Micropolis 1924 that has been nothing but trouble that
is currently:
/dev/sd1a 2030470 1192486 634937 65% /Disk
I have gotten errors like:
Oct 5 01:40:36 antietam mach: reselect timeout - target 6
Oct 5 01:54:01 antietam mach: reselect timeout - target 6
Oct 6 01:17:32 antietam mach: reselect timeout - target 6
Oct 6 01:33:09 antietam mach: Target 6: NOT READY; retry 1
Oct 6 01:33:30 antietam mach: Target 6: NOT READY; retry 2
[...]
Oct 6 01:33:30 antietam mach: Target 6: NOT READY; retry 19
Oct 6 01:33:30 antietam mach: sd1 (6,0): sense key:0x2 additional
sense code:0x4
Oct 6 01:33:30 antietam mach: SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
Oct 6 01:33:30 antietam mach: Target 6: NOT READY; retry 1
Oct 6 01:33:30 antietam mach: sd1 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:2
scsi status:0x0
Oct 6 01:33:30 antietam mach: Target 6: NOT READY; retry 1
Oct 6 01:39:40 antietam mach: reselect timeout - target 6
Oct 6 02:11:11 antietam mach: reselect timeout - target 6
The bad thing is that I got such errors, swapped the disk, and am
still getting them (although to a much lower degree).
Micropolis is really NO help. Yes, I did get the proper disktab and
formatted it with that info (e.g. 5400 rpm, etc.)
--
David Lemson (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois Computing & Comm Services Office System Administrator
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson
NeXTMail & MIME accepted BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Message-ID: <38$@byu.edu>
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 93 15:12:19 MDT
From: pmarc@zapotec.math.byu.edu (Paul Marshall Cardon II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 3.1 & PLI floppy drive problems.
References: <CEJor6.MBJ@world.std.com>
In article <CEJor6.MBJ@world.std.com> lloyd@world.std.com (Chris Lloyd)
writes:
> I have a friend using an external PLI floppy drive with a cube running
3.1
> and he is having some problems. The exact same machine when booted under
> 2.1 has no problems at all and works fine with the floppy drive.
I also need some info on this. I vaguely remember this thread from about
3-4 months ago, but I didn't need to read it. Now I have a sys-admin job
and guess what kind of floppy drives are attached to all of our cubes
except one... :-(
Thanks,
Paul Cardon
Brigham Young University
From: t89djo@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (David Jonsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: installation problems - intr dropped IRQ
Date: 9 Oct 1993 21:13:18 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2979hf$cpv@corax.udac.uu.se>
References: <28c684$97r@netnews.alf.dec.com>
jlf@alf.dec.com (Jeff Finkelstein) writes:
:
: Has anyone seen problems like this?
:
: I have been trying to install NS/FIS on a 433dx with 16MB of memory and a S3-924
: video (with 1MB of VRAM). During the disk formatting I get
:
: intr: dropped IRQ 7
:
Try to disable the external cache in the CMOS BIOS. That solved the problem to
me. I am disappointed that I cant use my 128kB of external cache due to this.
Is this a bug or is external cache not supported?
Davi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kapela@poly.edu (Theodore S. Kapela)
Subject: Phoenix KB ctrl not supported: lNS/IP install reboot problems solved
Message-ID: <CEnFJM.rv@poly.edu>
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 21:26:10 GMT
I had earlier posted an article about a problem I was having installing
NeXTStep 486 on my system. What would happen is the mach kernel
would load and start OK, but as soon as it started to register
devices/drivers, it would spontaneously reboot.
I only got one reply from someone that had a similar problem where
a system would hang (one of his friend's). Replacing the Phoenix
KB controller that was installed with an AMI fixed the problem. I
suspected this could also be MY problem.
I have a Mylex 486 EISA motherboard with a Phoenix 8242 keyboard
controller. Luckily, I had access to another system with an
AMI 8042 keyboard controller. I popped out the 8242 and popped
in the AMI 8042.
Wouldn't you know it? NS/IP booted fine. I am now placing my
order for a replacement KB controller (AMI). Since I
did get one other "me too - same problem", I though others
may like to know that at least some Phoenix KB controllers
are not compatible with NS/IP.
I originally ordered my system from Northgate (pretty nice machine,
BTW, but a little on the expensive side. *Excellent* service (if you
need it) more than makes up for the slightly higher pricing). I will
try obtaining a replacement directly from them. If that fails,
I will try a local distributor (Liuski International, with
locations around the US), which is where the system I "borrowed"
the AMI chip from originated.
--
Theodore S. Kapela
Center for Applied Large-Scale Computing
Polytechnic University
kapela@poly.edu
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT color printer, will it work under dos?
Message-ID: <Oct.9.18.23.03.1993.4585@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 9 Oct 93 22:23:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Well, we all know that the NCP will work on an intel platform under NS... But will it work under dos/windows??? I know the NCP's cannon counter part emulates an epson 2550 printer??? Does the next have this capability also? Just wondering. If not, would a BIOS swap with the Cannon bios do the trick? Anyone out there with an NCP and NSi machine--if you've tried to get it to work, what were your results.
Thanks, really appreciate any/all help
Later, John
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HP 4 On Black Hardware
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 01:55:23 -0600
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2959318032.0.p00378@psilink.com>
Does anyone know the specifics or have had the experience of running an
HP 4M printer with black hardware. I am experiencing extremely long
wait times (ie. I've never seen it print out anything within 20 minutes).
My settings are as follows:
*** NeXT non-turbo Mono ***
Serial Port: B
Port Speed: 57600
Handshaking: YES
*** HP 4 ***
Serial=RS-232
Pacing=DTR/DSR
Baud Rate=57600
DTR Polarity: HI
*** Cable ***
Null modem cable from NeXTConnection
If anyone has any experience with this process that they would like to
pass on, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks.
James.
From: markf@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Mark Frohnmayer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP with Gateway 2000 66V
Date: 10 Oct 1993 17:49:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Message-ID: <299hvu$km7@agate.berkeley.edu>
I am having trouble installing NEXTSTEP '486 on a new Gateway 2000 machine.
The installation goes fine until it asks for a language selection (1 for
english, 2 - 6 for others). At this point nothing happens when I hit a key.
The installation manual says to disconnect the 5 1/4 floppy, but mine is a
combined model.
Has anyone had this problem? Is there any way to fix it?
Thanks,
Mark
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HP 4 On Black Hardware
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 93 11:08:55 -0600
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2959351557.2.p00378@psilink.com>
In-Reply-To: <199310101026.AA17007@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Eureka! I've found the problem. Apparently the "PACING" setting
within the SERIAL menu on the HP4 was set incorrectly to DTR/DSR. The
correct setting is XON/XOFF. Thanks to those who replied and I
apologize for taking up your time unnecessarily!
To the Netter!
James
>DATE: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 11:26:02 +0100
>FROM: Marcel Weiher <marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de>
>
>In comp.sys.next.hardware you write:
>
>>Does anyone know the specifics or have had the experience of running an
>>HP 4M printer with black hardware. I am experiencing extremely long
>>wait times (ie. I've never seen it print out anything within 20 minutes).
>
>James,
>
>what kind of documents are you printing, with what App, what sizes
>are the spool files?
>
>The serial connection will bog you down quite significantly, especially
>with images.
>
>Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: Cannon BJ300's do work with NS/I 3.1
Message-ID: <1993Oct10.202723.22935@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 20:27:23 GMT
About six weeks ago I posted a question of whether I could use the BJ300 (a
bubble-jet) printer with my forthcoming Epson NX running NS/I. Judging from
the responses received, I concluded the answer was "no", unless I installed
GhostScript, a la Avery Wang.
Yesterday I discovered it isn't even that difficult, once you have the parallel
port set up (under Others in Configure.app, and with the right BIOS address,
0x378). Simply plug it in and choose IBM ProPrinter (24 pin) as its type in
the Print Manager. (The BJ300 was already placed in IBM ProPrinter emulation
mode.) This prints not only ASCII files (which is what I was hoping for) but
also renders PostScript (far more than I expected).
I'm not sure what the licensing problems are here, but one may have to pay $75
to do this (under 3.2?). See the article on p. 17 of the October NeXTWORLD for
more confusion.
--
--
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
NeXTMail: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: UPDATED SUMMARY (My clock is running late [black hardware])
Message-ID: <1993Oct10.200812.933@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <1993Oct3.074825.1467@nidat.sub.org>
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 20:08:12 GMT
After posting the summary below I received some important comments which
made me write this update.
In article <1993Oct3.074825.1467@nidat.sub.org> I wrote:
> |> I'm running a NeXTstation 25MHz and have noticed the clock is running
> |> considerably late (well, at least 10 minutes a year, probably more).
> |>
> |> Is this normal behaviour or a fault?
> |>
> |> Can I do anything about it?
> |>
> |> Does anybody know whether this is a crystal or a line frequency
> |> driven circuit?
>
> 1. Every respondent had the same problem. This leads me to the
> conclusion that it's "normal" behaviour.
>
This behaviour is a known flaw (or bug, if you like to tell things by
their names) in NeXTs Mach kernel and is said to be fixed in NS 3.1.
> 2. There are several fixes, unfortunately none is a general solution.
>
> a) for those who have a running LAN, they can enable >timed< to take
> care of the clock. IMHO it will only work if not all of the participa-
> ting systems are NeXTs; if all machines are late the average is still
> late!
>
First, this opinion of mine was said to be wrong, which I only report
uncommented as I have no own experience in this.
Scott Hess told me to use ntp/ntpd instead of timed, because it is much
more stable.
> b) you can synchronize with a time standard like NIST or PTB (Germany).
> NIST is available throug a modem service(long distance!) and PTB trans-
> mits its signal through long wave radio (DCF77). Unfortunately, both
> methods generate considerable cost (for repeated long distance calls or
> for the special receiver).
>
The cost for the NIST call was disputed. "It consists of just one short
call every once in while", was the argument. Still no choice for a German
(?) :-}
> In short: most of us will fire up preferences and reset the time
> manually every once in a wile.
>
Shinichirou Sugou sent me a program to compensate for clock drift by
adding an offset from time to time. It can be scheduled from cron.
> No final answer on the inner workings, thus no definitive answer on
> hardware fixes :-(
Scott Hess told me about the reason for this behaviour and gave an
explanation why the time is always lagging not trailing.
The NeXT Mach kernel counts the time ticks of the scheduler to provide the
time of day in software (like all the old fashioned UNIXes before). The
hardware clock is only used to cover the time of power down. Noone ever
wrote a driver that updates the Mach clock from the realtime clock chip.
As sometimes the time tick hits a protected code section, an interupt
might not be serviced and so a time tick is missed and the clock slowly
lags.
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From: jmeacham@clarknet.clark.net (James D. Meacham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Does US Robotics Courier 14.4 modem work on 040 station?
Date: 10 Oct 1993 20:14:38 -0400
Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <29a8he$shc@clarknet.clark.net>
The subject above says it all. I made a deal to but this modem, and
would like to know if anyone has any experience using this modem with a
next, and what will I need (special drvers, etc.) Thanks in advance. Peace,
JAmes
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From: chi@watnxt10 (Denny Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NO CD-ROM drive found!!! HELP!
Date: 11 Oct 1993 00:48:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <29aag5$bg1@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Dear netters,
I just got a Adaptec SCSI Controller 1540CF and a Toshiba 3401
internal CD-ROM Drive. I am using the factory default setting
on Adaptec SCSI card and the CD-ROM Drive is set at ID=0.
The installation procedure stopped with an error
"NO CD-ROM drive found!"
Below is my system setup,
* Amtron 486-DX2 66
* 16MB (70ns) RAM
* TEAC 1.44 floppy drive
* VESA ET400 Video Graphic Card
* Super IDE with I/O parallel port/game port
* Logitech mouse on Com 1
* ViewSonic 5E Monitor
* Standard 101 Keyboard
If you have any thing that might help this situation please
E-mail me. Thank you very much!
From: mycroft@monolith.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PPC board for NeXTcube?
Date: 11 Oct 1993 01:14:44 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <29ac24$hfa@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
I don't recall seeing this question before so here goes.
Is it likely that there will be PPC upgrade boards for the NeXTcube? Possibly
from Cannon? Or am I locked into a dead end here? I understand Cannon has
bought the rights to the NRW which was being developed, do any industry
insiders or pundits see any future collaboration between Cannon and NeXT to
give NeXT hardware owners some kind of upgrade path?
If not then I have one more reason to begin considering other options.
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From: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au
Subject: Re: 14.4 modems - SupraFAX
Message-ID: <CEq0Fx.1vG@number_one.apana.org.au>
Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole A Vincent)
Organization: Cafe Seacombe - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder.
References: <291u11$pa1@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 06:52:45 GMT
In article <291u11$pa1@agate.berkeley.edu> jeffreym@doppio.berkeley.edu
(Jeffrey McCullough) writes:
>
> Does anyone have recommendations about good 14.4 modems to use with a 25 mhz
> slab or is there a ftp site where such information is stored.
Hi
Just about the best modem I've run on my 68040 machine is a SupraFAX Modem
V.32bis. It supports full data compression and error correction, and with the
new ROM's it also has much better line noise handling.
Trust this helps.
Regards
Nicole
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From: hongswp@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (P. HONGSWADHI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on Dell Dimension?
Message-ID: <29b9slINNrul@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
Date: 11 Oct 93 09:43:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.29b9slINNrul
Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University
Hi fellow netters:
I'm relatively new to this newsgroup and I have a couple of questions:
1. Has anybody try to install NS on Dell Dimension XPS? I'm currently
looking for an intel-based machine to run both NS and Windows.
2. The ProAudio Spectrum 16 sound card has a SCSI adapter. Can I use
this instead of the Adaptec 1540, etc? I'm planning to use the
Apple CD300.
Thanks.
== ph
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Subject: DOS Syquest drives
Message-ID: <CEozxu.1ox@moksha.uucp>
Sender: mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton)
Organization: Totally Disorganized
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1993 17:44:17 GMT
Has anyone had any luck in getting a DOS Syquest drive to be mounted ? Mac
Syquest drives are no problem, but there seems to be nothing in
/usr/filesystems for dealing with DOS Syquest drives...
--
-Michael
From: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest-nscst-tnt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: UPDATED SUMMARY (My clock is running late [
Message-ID: <CEqH03.676@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Date: 11 Oct 93 12:50:25 GMT
References: <1993Oct10.200812.933@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Originator: news@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
In article 933@nidat.sub.org, Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes:
>Scott Hess told me about the reason for this behaviour and gave an
>explanation why the time is always lagging not trailing.
>
>The NeXT Mach kernel counts the time ticks of the scheduler to provide the
>time of day in software (like all the old fashioned UNIXes before). The
>hardware clock is only used to cover the time of power down. Noone ever
>wrote a driver that updates the Mach clock from the realtime clock chip.
>As sometimes the time tick hits a protected code section, an interupt
>might not be serviced and so a time tick is missed and the clock slowly
>lags.
Is this true? Is the access to the RT clock documented anywhere?
If so, or if someone will tell me how to access it, I'll throw together a
daemon that will use adjtime() to at least sync with this clock for those
of us with standalone machines.
Mark
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Subject: Query for good Video card on COMPAQ EISA M machines
Message-ID: <1993Oct11.135323.22543@cc.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 13:53:23 GMT
INTEL Platform.
Does anyone uses another video card on the COMPAQ DESKPRO
M 486/66 EISA machine other than their QVISION 1024E board ?
I am looking for a 1024/768 color resolution. I am getting
800/600 now and it is not enough. Compaq has a new card
out but it cost 650 US$. Yes, it is compaq at their best.
I have seen the ATI Ultra pro EISA with 2meg RAM for about 350
Does it works ? Have other cards be tested ? Can we get more
VRAM on a board ? Does this matters ?
JM
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag-2)
Subject: NeXT Hardware Basics
Message-ID: <CEqMFB.8oI@news.cis.umn.edu>
Followup-To: sender
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 14:45:05 GMT
Hi,
I am currently interested in purchasing black hardware and
wanted some information on the possible configurations.
Most importantly, it is my undersatanding that all
NeXT machines have a motorola DSP chip on them... is this true?
If so, how easy is it to write code to utilize the chip?
Secondly, I am on a limited budget, and was wondering if there
is any significant difference between the '040 and 030 boards.
(other than price!) My needs are fairly uncomplicated: i'll be
doing some crunching of data and developing a computer music
application.
Thanks for any information!
Reply via email to cut down on newsgroup congestion, please.
-Sharad Shanbhag
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9218
Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201
Department of Neurosurgery
University of Minnesota email:
421 Lions Research Building shanbhag@neuro.med.umn.edu
2001 6th St. SE shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Stealth Viper & NSi?
Message-ID: <Oct.11.10.53.25.1993.1909@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 11 Oct 93 14:53:25 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi all,
A friend of mine with no net access is wondering if his Diamond Stealth card (1meg vram) will work in NSi in a screen mode other than 640X480. I tried the new S3 drivers with not much success. However, when I play with the addresses I can get varying degrees of failure :) That is some address let me kinda see the screen. Point being, if anyones gotton this card to work I would appreciate you giving me your settings so I could help my frind out of his tunnel vision world :)
Thanks, John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kidd@kronos.sphs.indiana.edu (Gary Kidd)
Subject: Is Uninet Peripherals dead?
Message-ID: <CEqMr7.LB0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Keywords: Uninet, serial ports
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 14:54:43 GMT
I've been trying to contact Uninet Peripherals about their SLAT-1 but
their phone is disconnected and email bounces. Does anyone know whether
they've moved, been bought out, or what? I already own a SLAT-1 and I'm
mainly concerned with finding out whether there are any problems
configuring it to work under NS 3.1, but I know others who might like to
buy a SLAT-1. Any information will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Gary
--
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Indiana University
Bloomington, IN 47405
kidd@kronos.sphs.indiana.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: imagine.com!michael (Michael Ellis)
Subject: Using a NeXT CD-ROM drive on a Macintosh
Message-ID: <1993Oct8.224035.2716@imagine.com>
Sender: michael@imagine.com (Michael Ellis)
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 22:40:35 GMT
Has anyone used a NeXT CD-ROM drive on a Macintosh running System 7? I
know that the drive mechanism is a Sony 541 does this mean that it should
work if another Sony 541 works? Is there a special driver that is needed?
If a special driver is needed does anyone know where to get it?
Thanks,
Michael Ellis
Imagine Multimedia Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: imagine.com!michael (Michael Ellis)
Subject: NeXT CD-ROM Drive on a Macintosh
Message-ID: <1993Oct8.223125.1232@imagine.com>
Sender: michael@imagine.com
Organization: Imagine Multimedia, Inc., Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 22:31:25 GMT
Has anyone been able to use a NeXT CD-ROM drive on a Macintosh running
System 7? I know the mechanism is a Sony 541 does this mean it should
work if another Sony 541 drive works? Is there a special driver the Mac
needs? If there is a special driver does anyone know where to get it?
Thanks,
Michael Ellis
Imagine Multimedia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: raul@pencom.com (Raul Alvarez)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP with Gateway 2000 66V
Message-ID: <1993Oct11.163624.1139@pencom.com>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (News system)
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
References: <299hvu$km7@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 16:36:24 GMT
In article <299hvu$km7@agate.berkeley.edu> markf@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU
(Mark Frohnmayer) writes:
> I am having trouble installing NEXTSTEP '486 on a new Gateway 2000
machine.
> The installation goes fine until it asks for a language selection (1 for
> english, 2 - 6 for others). At this point nothing happens when I hit a
key.
> The installation manual says to disconnect the 5 1/4 floppy, but mine is
a
> combined model.
>
> Has anyone had this problem? Is there any way to fix it?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
Yes, I have had this problem, and have fixed it.
To fix it, find jumper W7 on the motherboard. W7 is in different
locations on different revisions of the board. Place a jumper on it.
Installation at this point will work with only one other problem:
At the configuration screen, it will incorrectly identify the mouse as a
PS/2 mouse. Remove the PS/2 mouse driver, and install the serial mouse
driver instead.
CAUTION: You can seriously damage your machine if you don't know what you
are doing. Also, by placing a jumper on W7 you will lose your CMOS
configuration on the machine; i.e you will have to tell it what type of
drives you have, reset the local time, etc.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Subject: Beware of ATI incompatible motherboards!!!
Message-ID: <CEqvL7.AB2@unix.portal.com>
Summary: Some VESA LB motherboards have bad chipsets
Keywords: ATI GUP, SIS chipset, NSFIP
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 18:05:29 GMT
Anyone who is purchasing a VESA LB system should beware of the
SIS chip. The SIS chip will not work with the ATI Graphics Ultra
Pro. To find out if your motherboard has the SIS chip, look for a
large IC (about 3/4 the size of the 486) on the motherboard. The
letters SIS are on the chip. There doesn't appear to be anything
wrong with using other VESA cards with the SIS chip, just the ATI.
It took me three motherboards to discover this problem. I hope
no one else has to go through what I did.
Brad Wright
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From: djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Beware of ATI incompatible motherboards!!!
Date: 11 Oct 1993 18:38:46 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <29c97m$3ob@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <CEqvL7.AB2@unix.portal.com>
In article <CEqvL7.AB2@unix.portal.com> wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly
William Wright) writes:
>
>
> Anyone who is purchasing a VESA LB system should beware of the
> SIS chip. The SIS chip will not work with the ATI Graphics Ultra
> Pro. To find out if your motherboard has the SIS chip, look for a
> large IC (about 3/4 the size of the 486) on the motherboard. The
> letters SIS are on the chip. There doesn't appear to be anything
> wrong with using other VESA cards with the SIS chip, just the ATI.
>
> It took me three motherboards to discover this problem. I hope
> no one else has to go through what I did.
Could you be more specific about which brand(s) of motherboard you are
using?
I am using a NICE EISA motherboard (that uses the SIS chipset) without ANY
problems. Even the PAS-16 sound works.
I would not want to discourage people away from motherboards that use the
SIS chipset that DO work.
-David Jepson-
Stratus Computer Inc.
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From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP boot manager
Date: 11 Oct 1993 18:43:22 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29c9ga$340@crcnis1.unl.edu>
What is the proper procedure for writing the NSi boot manager onto a
disk? We have a situation where we would like to have an internal IDE
stay almost entirely DOS and have NSi bootable from the external SCSI
without having to turn off the IDE drive.
I now that the programs live in usr/standalone/i386, and there is a boot0,
boot1, and boot1f there.
Thanks,
Hubert Hickman
From: jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 16Meg works, 32Meg doesn't
Date: 11 Oct 1993 18:18:22 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <29c81eINNppl@gap.caltech.edu>
My 486 ISA machine runs NeXTSTEP great with 16Meg Ram (70ns)
I, pig that I am, added another 16Meg. CMOS reconfigured, and DOS runs
fine, but NeXTSTEP won't boot. RDP exception.
Memory down to 16Meg, works fine, memory up to 32 Meg, won't boot
any ideas???
advTHANKSance
jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Internal floppy won`t fit
Date: 11 Oct 1993 19:31:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29ccak$kmh@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <29btjh$v4@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu>
In article <29btjh$v4@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> bora@ils.nwu.edu (Don Bora) writes:
>I have a question... I just purchased an internal floppy drive...
>problem being that I don`t have any room in my cube. I have a rather
>large hard drive and an OD. Rather than remove the OD I just hooked up
>the new floppy drive up and set it on top of the cube... is this a problem?
>Can I get a case for it?
I have set up my floppy (non-SCSI SONY drive) externally, and it works
fine. The problem was getting the cable out from the back of the
cube. I ended up filing off a portion of a plate that covers
empty slots so cable can go out without being crushed by the back
plates.
As for the case, I don't have one. I just screwed on a plastic plate
with rubber feet onto the bottom of the drive to protect the electronics
from shorting, or components getting scraped off. Top part of the drive
is already covered with thin casing.
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From: ahh@shoshin.Sun.COM (Aslam Haswarey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS2.1 to NS3.0 upgrade problem
Date: 11 Oct 1993 19:26:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29cc1m$44i@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
References: <29c81eINNppl@gap.caltech.edu>
Hi,
Wondering if anyone else has seen this problem:
I just got done upgrading my 040 NeXT Cube from NS2.1 to NS3.0 from a CD.
The upgrade itself seems to have been done successfully. Now when I went
to boot my newly upgraded scsi disk drive, all I got was the following:
Next> bsd()sdmach
boot sd(0,0,0)sdmach
boot SCSI target 1, LUN 0
lk0 boot: rap rap rap rap rap rap rap rap rap rap rap rap rap rap ...
What in the world does "rap" mean? I've rebuilt my sd back to NS2.1 &
re-upgraded it to NS3.0 three times now. Each time I've gotten the
same result.
I don't like rap to begin with... this just re-enforces my dislike. :-)
Thanks in advance to all that reply.
---
regards
-Aslam Haswarey <ahh@shoshin.Sun.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: Beware of ATI incompatible motherboards!!!
Message-ID: <1993Oct11.200234.23185@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
References: <CEqvL7.AB2@unix.portal.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 20:02:34 GMT
In article <CEqvL7.AB2@unix.portal.com> wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly
William Wright) writes:
The following is true for all SIS chipsets. I have a no-name clone
EISA/VESA SIS chipset CPU board. It has the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro in it
and runs fine, at least as far as the ATI is concerned. I have found that
the EISA config tools are kind of flaky as is the power up sequence. But,
I think it is because of brand of board my local dealer put in. (I could
have had a V66!)
> Anyone who is purchasing a VESA LB system should beware of the
> SIS chip. The SIS chip will not work with the ATI Graphics Ultra
> Pro. To find out if your motherboard has the SIS chip, look for a
> large IC (about 3/4 the size of the 486) on the motherboard. The
> letters SIS are on the chip. There doesn't appear to be anything
> wrong with using other VESA cards with the SIS chip, just the ATI.
>
> It took me three motherboards to discover this problem. I hope
> no one else has to go through what I did.
>
>
> Brad Wright
>
> ==================================================
> | Software Engineer (Massivus Nerdus) |
> | Premisys Communications (The Access Company) |
> | 1032 Elwell Court, Palo Alto California 94303 |
> | wwright@premisys.com, wwright@shell.portal.com |
> --------------------------------------------------
>
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Voice: 919.783.7033
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From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Subject: Re: Stealth Viper & NSi?
Message-ID: <CEr46K.HsF@news.otago.ac.nz>
Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff)
Organization: University of Otago
References: <Oct.11.10.53.25.1993.1909@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 21:11:07 GMT
In article <Oct.11.10.53.25.1993.1909@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> Hi all,
> A friend of mine with no net access is wondering if his
Diamond Stealth card (1meg vram) will work in NSi in a screen mode
other than 640X480. I tried the new S3 drivers with not much
success. However, when I play with the addresses I can get varying
degrees of failure :) That is some address let me kinda see the
screen. Point being, if anyones gotton this card to work I would
appreciate you giving me your settings so I could help my frind out
of his tunnel vision world :)
>
> Thanks, John
The simple answer, is the same as for the Diamond Viper. No driver
currently and according to a friend at NeXT, no-one is working on one
:-(
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From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Re: NO CD-ROM drive found!!! HELP!
Message-ID: <CEpxso.1pr@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
References: <29aag5$bg1@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 05:55:35 GMT
Sorry for the wasted bandwidth, but there was not valid return path in the
message. (I also figured this would be a question more that one person would
have)
For some reason SCSI id's 0 and 1 are reserved for Hard Drives *only* on the
Adaptec. Set the CD-Drive to 2 or 6 (some people have reported problems with
CD-ROM drives at anything but 6, we have ours at 2 without a problem with the
1542c)
Hope this helps...
---
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
(508)-481-3955 Fax
In article <29aag5$bg1@galaxy.ucr.edu> chi@watnxt10 (Denny Chuang) writes:
> Dear netters,
>
> I just got a Adaptec SCSI Controller 1540CF and a Toshiba 3401
>
> internal CD-ROM Drive. I am using the factory default setting
>
> on Adaptec SCSI card and the CD-ROM Drive is set at ID=0.
>
> The installation procedure stopped with an error
>
> "NO CD-ROM drive found!"
>
> Below is my system setup,
>
> * Amtron 486-DX2 66
> * 16MB (70ns) RAM
> * TEAC 1.44 floppy drive
> * VESA ET400 Video Graphic Card
> * Super IDE with I/O parallel port/game port
> * Logitech mouse on Com 1
> * ViewSonic 5E Monitor
> * Standard 101 Keyboard
>
> If you have any thing that might help this situation please
> E-mail me. Thank you very much!
>
--
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: extern DOS formated HD read and Write?
Message-ID: <CErrMo.ww@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Organization: arts
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 05:37:35 GMT
Hi,
could anybody say to me, if the black ones can read and write an extern
SCSI HD, in DOS-format? And do the NeXT also format an extern HD into
DOS?
thanks for answers
-manfred
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: Beware of ATI incompatible motherboards!!!
Message-ID: <CEr55n.vv@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <CEqvL7.AB2@unix.portal.com> <29c97m$3ob@transfer.stratus.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 21:32:10 GMT
In article <29c97m$3ob@transfer.stratus.com> djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson) writes:
>In article <CEqvL7.AB2@unix.portal.com> wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly
>William Wright) writes:
>> Anyone who is purchasing a VESA LB system should beware of the
>> SIS chip. The SIS chip will not work with the ATI Graphics Ultra
>> Pro. . . .
>
>Could you be more specific about which brand(s) of motherboard you are
>using?
>I am using a NICE EISA motherboard (that uses the SIS chipset) without ANY
>problems. Even the PAS-16 sound works.
>
>I would not want to discourage people away from motherboards that use the
>SIS chipset that DO work.
I am using an EISA/VESA from Advance-2000 with SIS chipset and ATI.
No Problem for me.
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From: preuss@netcom.com (Peter Preuss)
Subject: Re: Beware of ATI incompatible motherboards!!!
Message-ID: <preussCEr8MM.GH9@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <CEqvL7.AB2@unix.portal.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 22:47:09 GMT
Bradly William Wright (wwright@shell.portal.com) wrote:
: Anyone who is purchasing a VESA LB system should beware of the
: SIS chip. The SIS chip will not work with the ATI Graphics Ultra
: Pro. To find out if your motherboard has the SIS chip, look for a
: large IC (about 3/4 the size of the 486) on the motherboard. The
: letters SIS are on the chip. There doesn't appear to be anything
: wrong with using other VESA cards with the SIS chip, just the ATI.
: It took me three motherboards to discover this problem. I hope
: no one else has to go through what I did.
I had problems with an SIS equiped VLB board and the ATI as well, but
was lead to belief that the 50MHz DX choice was to blame. According
to ATI's tech support anything beyond 40MHz VLB speed is going boldly
where no man has gone before...
Peter.
--
preuss@futon.sfsu.edu San Francisco State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: caro@adobe.com (Perry A. Caro)
Subject: SUMMARY: Internal disk for NS Color
Message-ID: <1993Oct11.235600.28659@adobe.com>
Sender: caro@mv.us.adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 23:56:00 GMT
About a month ago, I posted asking for advice on a new internal
disk for my NS Color Classic.
Based on comments posted in this newsgroup, I bought a Fujitsu M2623FA
400 meg SCSI drive. It is 3.5"xHH, but it fits. It seems to work
fine. I liked the 5yr warranty, 11ms average access time, 256K cache,
and $549 price from NCA. The head seeking is on the noisy side --
kinda sounds like corn popping. The motor is quiet, though.
Here are the replies I got to my posting.
>From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu>
>Perry,
> You might call Larry Cohen at Peripheral Solutions in Santa Cruz
>(800-ALL-DISK) and ask him what drives he recommends for NeXT hardware. He has
>a NeXTcube test bench so he knows what drives are plug and play. His prices
>seem near the low end as well.
>--
>
>Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
>NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
>NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
>USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
>From: MCANJI@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>
>Greetings,
>
>A couple of weeks ago I noticed your post wanting more info on internal hard
>drives for a NeXTstation Color. Have you found what you were looking for?
>
>If you still need help, please, let me know. I work for a software/hardware
>reseller, SoftwarePlus (1-800-ALL-NeXT) and I may be able to help. In order
>to be most effective, however, it would be best if you could give me some
>guidelines ahead of time such as budget, warranty, speed, brand name prefer-
>rence, noise factor, etc..
>
>You can reach me directly at 817-566-5565 if you wish. I hope to hear from you
>soon.
>
>Cordially,
>
>Mirko Canji
>NeXT Consultant
--
caro@mv.us.adobe.com ...!{sun}!adobe!caro Contents: my opinions, no others
From: bfoley@obelisk.berkeley.edu (Brian Foley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HeLP, NeXT screen getting dimmer!
Date: 12 Oct 1993 00:29:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <29ctq2$q9t@agate.berkeley.edu>
At first, I thought it was just my eyes, but someone else confirmed it.
The NeXT's monochrome screen does not get as bright as it used to. In
fact, it is becoming too dark to do any serious reading on. It is true
that the computer is not new anymore (original cube circa 1989?) but is
this normal?
Has anyone else had this problem?
Does anyone have a solution?
Please let us know while we can still read the screen!
thanks
brian foley
bfoley@obelisk.berkeley.edu
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WANTED: 3 Meter (NeXTCube Style) Monitor Cable
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 17:40:30 -0600
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2959461345.1.p00378@psilink.com>
Just like it says, I'm interested in acquiring the longer (3 meter)
mono monitor cable. I have the shorter (0.5 meter) cable and I'll
gladly swap or buy! Thanks.
James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (Henrik Hempelmann)
Subject: Re: Does US Robotics Courier 14.4 modem work on 040 station?
Message-ID: <1993Oct11.193415.6835@palumbia.in-berlin.de>
Organization: Palumbia, Home of the marsupilami
References: <29a8he$shc@clarknet.clark.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 19:34:15 GMT
jmeacham@clarknet.clark.net (James D. Meacham) writes:
>The subject above says it all. I made a deal to but this modem, and
>would like to know if anyone has any experience using this modem with a
>next, and what will I need (special drvers, etc.) Thanks in advance. Peace,
>JAmes
Yes!
This posting reaches the outside world via a Courier V32bis (=14.400) modem,
no special drivers, just a modemcabel for hardware handshake. Thats all.
And it's BLACK!
henrik
--
marsu@palumbia.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) Henrik Hempelmann
marsu@cs.tu-berlin.de
>> Why should I tidy my room, when the whole world is in a mess ??? <<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: Re: Beware of ATI incompatible motherboards!!!
Message-ID: <jlemonCErHJq.K0p@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <CEqvL7.AB2@unix.portal.com> <29c97m$3ob@transfer.stratus.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 01:59:49 GMT
In article <29c97m$3ob@transfer.stratus.com> djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson) writes:
>In article <CEqvL7.AB2@unix.portal.com> wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly
>William Wright) writes:
>> [ incompatability with NS/FIP, SIS chipset, and ATI GUP munched ]
>Could you be more specific about which brand(s) of motherboard you are
>using?
>I am using a NICE EISA motherboard (that uses the SIS chipset) without ANY
>problems. Even the PAS-16 sound works.
>
>I would not want to discourage people away from motherboards that use the
>SIS chipset that DO work.
I'll second this.. I have an EISA motherboard and SiS chipset, and don't
have any problems whatsoever with my ATI GUP.
--
Jonathan
From: chi@watnxt10 (Denny Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Super I/O & NS/I
Date: 12 Oct 1993 02:44:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <29d5nb$pf7@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Anyone using Super I/O Card? The controller card that comes with
HD/FD Controller and I/O/Prallel/Game port. Does it work with
NeXTSTEP ?
Denny.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bnh@active.com (Brian Hess)
Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM Drive on a Macintosh
Message-ID: <1993Oct12.024325.29132@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Sender: news@nntpxfer.psi.com
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
References: <1993Oct8.223125.1232@imagine.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 02:43:25 GMT
In article <1993Oct8.223125.1232@imagine.com> imagine.com!michael (Michael
Ellis) writes:
> Has anyone been able to use a NeXT CD-ROM drive on a Macintosh running
> System 7? I know the mechanism is a Sony 541 does this mean it should
> work if another Sony 541 drive works? Is there a special driver the Mac
> needs? If there is a special driver does anyone know where to get it?
I have tried it, and it doesn't work. Supposedly there's some sneaky extra
in the ROMs for Apple CD-ROM drives. Me-too on the hypothetical driver if
anybody has one...
Brian
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM Drive on a Macintosh
Date: 11 Oct 1993 23:33:37 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29d8ii$tg@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <1993Oct12.024325.29132@nntpxfer.psi.com>
Brian Hess writes
> In article <1993Oct8.223125.1232@imagine.com> imagine.com!michael (Michael
> Ellis) writes:
> > Has anyone been able to use a NeXT CD-ROM drive on a Macintosh running
> > System 7? I know the mechanism is a Sony 541 does this mean it should
> > work if another Sony 541 drive works? Is there a special driver the Mac
> > needs? If there is a special driver does anyone know where to get it?
>
> I have tried it, and it doesn't work. Supposedly there's some sneaky extra
> in the ROMs for Apple CD-ROM drives. Me-too on the hypothetical driver if
> anybody has one...
>
> Brian
There is a driver available for it now from Trantor.
I'd be surprised if the new CD ToolKit from FWB didn't drive it as
well, although it would be best to ask them before you buy.
--
- Scott Anguish -
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 12 Oct 1993 00:34:31 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <29dc4k$1qd@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Aris Theocharides <aris@maths.mu.OZ.AU>
Subject: Reuse of NeXTstation colour turbo parts
Message-ID: <9328515.10318@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 05:02:38 GMT
I have a quick question regarding the possible eventual reuse of hardware
components found in NeXTstation colour turbo machines:
Currently I guess one can reuse these somehow (although please correct me if I
am confused):
- keyboard and mouse (ADB, use on Macs)
- SCSI-2 hdd (anywhere really)
- trinitron 17" mon (on some Intel machines and some Macs I think?)
- fdd (scsi)
- 68040-33 chip and other chips, DSP (salvaged maybe?)
The other question is the memory:
32 mb of 70ns parity ram: can it be used elsewhere, or is it tied to NeXT h/w?
I am very happy with my system, and plan to use it to the max, then just wait
and see what the options are. I am in no hurry to scrap this system (although
like a lot of people I did consider selling out to get Intel). I am just
wondering about the future: a dangerous thing to do I know.
Any comments?
Thanks for any ideas.
Aris Theocharides
--(Vice-President of OZNeXT: Australian NeXT User Group)
name: aris theocharides.
address: room g63, maths dept, melb uni, parkville, vic, australia, 3052.
phone [+613] uni: 344.40.21, home: 489.90.14, fax: 344.45.99
e.mail: aris@foucault.maths.mu.OZ.AU (NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Peter Kang <pesk@waffle.sns.com>
Subject: Wanted:256k/broken/useless SIMMS.
Message-ID: <wJPaBc3w165w@waffle.sns.com>
Sender: guest@jack.sns.com (Waffle BBS Login Account)
Organization: Systems'n'Software, Fremont, CA 94539-6669
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 93 00:05:31 PDT
Wanted: 256k simms/broken/misc simms
I will buy 256k simms (100ns or faster) and any nonworking simms.
2 and 3 chip simms preferred.
will also buy non standard simms for their chips (simms that will not
work with any of your computers).
I will test and pay for working chips in a non-working boards.
If interested, e-mail me, or give me a call at:
408-894-9110
pete
----
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Systems'n'Software
Free Public Access Internet BBS
(510)623-8652
From: chi@watnxt09 (Denny Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NO CD-ROM drive found!!! HELP!
Date: 12 Oct 1993 08:13:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <29doug$s6t@galaxy.ucr.edu>
References: <29aag5$bg1@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Denny Chuang (chi@watnxt10) wrote:
: Dear netters,
: I just got a Adaptec SCSI Controller 1540CF and a Toshiba 3401
: internal CD-ROM Drive. I am using the factory default setting
: on Adaptec SCSI card and the CD-ROM Drive is set at ID=0.
: The installation procedure stopped with an error
: "NO CD-ROM drive found!"
: Below is my system setup,
: * Amptron 486-DX2 66
: * 16MB (70ns) RAM
: * TEAC 1.44 floppy drive
: * VESA ET400 Video Graphic Card
: * Super IDE with I/O parallel port/game port
: * Logitech mouse on Com 1
: * ViewSonic 5E Monitor
: * Standard 101 Keyboard
Below is a more detail description of my installation problem.
Please take a look at it! The Adaptec SCSI Card is set according to the
Nextanswer and the Toshiba3401 CD-ROM is set at SCSI 0.
Note:
1 MB display memory
AMIBIOS (C)1992 American Megatrends Inc.,
REV B VESA
016000 KB OK
WAIT......
Adaptec AHA-1540CF/1542CF BIOS v2.01
(c) 1993 Adaptec, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
*** Press <Ctrl><A> for SCSISelect(TM) Utility! ***
Waiting for SCSI ID #0..._
SCSI ID#5 Toshiba XM 3401TB
(C) American Megatrends Inc.,
40-0100-001102-00101111-060692-SIS3486-8
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| AMIBIOS System Configuration (C) 1985-1992, American Megatrends Inc., |
+------------------------------------+----------------------------------------+
| Main Processor : 80486DX2 | Base Memory Size : 640 KB |
| Numeric Processor : Present | Ext. Memory Size : 15360 KB |
| Floppy Drive A: : 1.44 MB | Hard Disk C: Type : 47 |
| Floppy Drive B: : None | Hard Disk D: Type : None |
| Display Type : VGA/PGA/EGA | Serial Port(s) : 3F8 |
| AMIBIOS Date : 06/06/92 | Parallel Port(s) : None |
+------------------------------------+----------------------------------------+
66MHz DX2 CPU
NeXT boot1f v.1.17
...............................
>> NeXTSTEP 486 boot v1.17
>> 640 conventional / 15360 extended memory
Type ? for information about advanced startup options
boot:
reading system config: /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table
loading mach_kernel
.+++++++++++++.+.+..
--------------------------- NeXT Mach Operating System -----------------------
NeXT Mach 3.1: Thu Apr 29 23:44:40 PDT 1993; root (rcbuilder): Objects/mk-149.22
3.obj~2/RELEASE_I386
Physical Memory = 16 Megaytes
available memory = 13.40 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 6b4
ISA bus
Warning: Using internal backup device configureation tables
PCPointer probe: mouseInit failure
Registering: PCKeyboard0
Registering: PCPointer0
PS2Keyboard/HandleAck: Unexpected ACK from keyboard <------- ????
Resetting SCSI Bus... <--- is this normal?
registering: hc0
IDE Drive 0 using MultiSector Mode
Registering: hd0
Registering: hd0a
hd0: No Valid Disk Label
hd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
hd0: Device Capacity: 202 MB
Registering: fc0
Registering: fd0
Registering: fd0a
fd0: Device Block Size: 512 bytes
fd0: Device Capacity: 1440 KB
fd0: Disk Label: Install_3.1
class `SMC16' not linked into application
configureDriver: Couldn't find class named SMC16
class `EtherExpress16' not linked into application
configureDriver: Couldn't find class named EtherExpress16
Registering: VGADisplay0
Registering: event0
Registering: kmDevice0
No CD-ROM drive found <-------------- My biggest problem!!!
use sd%d, hd%d or fd%d
root device?_
-------------------------
If you have any suggestions please E-mail me!
chi@watserv.ucr.edu
Thanks!
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 16Meg works, 32Meg doesn't
Date: 12 Oct 1993 02:59:31 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <29dv63$39c@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
References: <29c81eINNppl@gap.caltech.edu>
In article <29c81eINNppl@gap.caltech.edu>,
John C. Stevenson <jcs@cco.caltech.edu> wrote:
>My 486 ISA machine runs NeXTSTEP great with 16Meg Ram (70ns)
>I, pig that I am, added another 16Meg. CMOS reconfigured, and DOS runs
>fine, but NeXTSTEP won't boot. RDP exception.
>Memory down to 16Meg, works fine, memory up to 32 Meg, won't boot
>any ideas???
>
>advTHANKSance
>jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
I've heard that for some cheapo pc machines, lots of things only do
24 bits (ie 16 meg) and not a full 32 bits.
Some machines cache only cache over 16 meg, so adding more memory makes
things very slow. I've heard of eisa implementations that only work
to 24 bits, not 32 like they should.
I would suspect (but I don't know) that this is such a problem.
-nick
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ati gup lb vs s3 cards
Date: 12 Oct 1993 03:04:20 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <29dvf4$3i1@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
I had thought that the ati gup local bus card was the way to go
(especially with a rev 6 card which could do 1132x820). Now I hear
that there are the s3-928 or whatever cards that are faster, but
not as stable at the higher resolutions.
Which is better? The ati card is expensive, but so are some of the s3
cards.
I want to run my system at 1024x768 or 1132x820 (or even better).
I am about to buy a viewsonic v17 17" monitor, that can handle either
of these cards. Which is better?
I would like a card, that, if possible, works with linux, os/2, windows,
dos, nextstep. I'll use it primarily with nextstep, and perhaps I might
use it with windows, but hardly ever with linux, os/2 and dos.
So what's the best solution? From what I've read, the s3 cards are
faster at high resolution, but not as flicker free as the ati.
Summary anyone?
I saw the posting about the actix s3 card.
-nick kline
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 12:52:35 GMT
Has anyone tried downloading (both directions) calendars,
address books etc., between a NeXT black box and
HP95 LX
charles
Union Bank of Switzerland
Charles Johler
LHIS/LHDD-JOC
Flurstrasse 68
CH-8048 Zurich
Switzerland
phone: +41 1 236 38 64
fax: +41 1 236 84 04
RFC822: joc@ubszh.net.ch (NeXT-Mail ok)
X.400: charles.johler@zh001.ubs.ubs.arcom.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole Kaiyan)
Subject: Circuit to connect Dell DG/X 486 computer system to NeXT MegaPixel Color Display
Message-ID: <CEqJ11.2A9@number_one.apana.org.au>
Keywords: Dell Jaws VGA MegaPixel Color
Sender: nicolek@number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole Kaiyan)
Organization: Cafe Seacombe - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder.
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1993 13:34:13 GMT
I have finally finished getting all the information together to complete the
circuit diagram for connecting a Dell DG/X 486 system to the NeXT MegaPixel
Color Display.
If you would like a copy of the circuit diagram then please email one of the
accounts below, I shall then email you the PostScript file. If you have any
queries please email me back and I shall attempt to answer your question.
Since this is a NeXT MegaPixel Color display to what is essentially a standard
VGA connector, it may indeed work with other video adaptors on 486 systems.
Perhaps someone would like to try this out and relay their discoveries to the
Internet.
Regards
Nicole
___________________________________________________________________________
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nicolek@latcs1.lat.oz.au
Computer Science Department nk@jupiter.cs.swin.oz.au
Swinburne University of Technology nkaiyan@farben.latrobe.edu.au
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AUSTRALIA (NeXTmail welcome)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Re: NO CD-ROM drive found!!! HELP!
Message-ID: <1993Oct12.142639.15129@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
References: <CEpxso.1pr@ripple.uunet>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 14:26:39 GMT
In article <CEpxso.1pr@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
writes:
>
> For some reason SCSI id's 0 and 1 are reserved for Hard Drives *only* on the
> Adaptec. Set the CD-Drive to 2 or 6 (some people have reported problems with
> CD-ROM drives at anything but 6, we have ours at 2 without a problem with the
> 1542c)
>
> In article <29aag5$bg1@galaxy.ucr.edu> chi@watnxt10 (Denny Chuang) writes:
> >
> > I just got a Adaptec SCSI Controller 1540CF and a Toshiba 3401
> > internal CD-ROM Drive. I am using the factory default setting
> > on Adaptec SCSI card and the CD-ROM Drive is set at ID=0.
> >
> > The installation procedure stopped with an error
> >
> > "NO CD-ROM drive found!"
> >
I am helping a client attempt to install NS/FIP on a new Gateway 2000 486-66V
with an Adaptec 1542CF and a Toshiba 3401B and I am also getting the "NO CD-ROM
drive found" error. I tried changing the SCSI ID on the drive from 0 to 6 and
nothing worked. Everything is configured per the latest NeXT Answers
information.
I was wondering if the new Adpatec 1542CF and Toshiba 3401B are still NEXSTEP
compatible? Has anyone got NS/FIP to load with the 1542CF and 3401B combo?
Thanks.
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual
or traditional: EXTREME
From: bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov (Cary Bakker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Confused about error message in /usr/adm/messages ....
Date: 12 Oct 1993 16:08:58 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <29ekqq$604@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
Recently, I have been having some problems with the machine I
am working on. It was taking up to 5-10 minutes for me to log
in for some reason or other. I found some error messages in
/usr/adm/messages, and I assume they are the cause of the problem,
but I am not all that familiar with the internals.
Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated,
Cary Bakker.
These were the error messages that I found in /usr/adm/messages :
Oct 5 18:58:17 cyclon loginwindow[182]: loginwindow: Workspace exited ts 0 cd
0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0.
Oct 5 19:59:24 cyclon ntpd[98]: logical clock adjust timeout (86400 seconds)
Oct 6 04:01:23 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:01:23 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RETRY
Oct 6 04:01:35 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:01:35 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RETRY
Oct 6 04:01:56 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:01:56 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RETRY
Oct 6 04:01:56 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:01:56 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RECALIBRATE
Oct 6 04:02:07 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:02:07 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RETRY
Oct 6 04:02:28 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:02:28 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RETRY
Oct 6 04:02:28 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:02:28 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RECALIBRATE
Oct 6 04:02:39 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:02:39 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RETRY
Oct 6 04:03:01 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:03:01 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RETRY
Oct 6 04:03:01 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:03:01 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RECALIBRATE
Oct 6 04:03:32 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:03:32 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RETRY
Oct 6 04:03:32 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:03:32 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: RETRY
Oct 6 04:03:32 cyclon mach: fc0: Controller Reset: Command Timeout
Oct 6 04:03:32 cyclon mach: fd0: Sector 7(d) cmd = Read; TIMEOUT: FATAL
Oct 6 04:03:32 cyclon mach: DOS unix_rw: read returned 287023956
Oct 6 09:38:25 cyclon loginwindow[2413]: loginwindow: running
/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/Workspace
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cary A. Bakker | Music is the pleasure the human soul
C.S. Major | experiences from counting without
FLorida International University | being aware that is counting...
NeXT Programmer |
NOAA/AOML | -- Gottfried W. Leibniz
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium Machines
Date: 12 Oct 1993 17:14:14 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <29eol6$vh@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <29cohq$72@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Ivo Welch (ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu) wrote:
: There are some exciting new Pentium machines out there from:
: Compaq
: Ambra
: Gateway (PCI)
: HP (SCSI hotswap)
: ALR (EISA)
: with some interesting new features (such as SCSI hot-swap, PCI, etc). One
: person who puts these systems together for a living apparently believes that
: the ALR may not be so reliable.
: Do any of the other machines work? And, work reliably with more than 2-3
: SCSI devices, perhaps as fast-SCSI, (my Intel GX/Pro + DPT are not
: reliable beyond 2-3)?
: I am sure this is a question of general interest, so if you have been
: running a NS system reliably off one of these, please post your
: configurations, any problems that might have shown up, and perhaps some
: speed indications.
: Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
: Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
: AGSM at UCLA
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Beware of ATI incompatible motherboards!!!
Date: 12 Oct 1993 17:27:54 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <29epeq$vh@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <CEqvL7.AB2@unix.portal.com> <1993Oct11.200234.23185@FreemanSoft.com>
Joe Freeman (joe@FreemanSoft.com) wrote:
: I have found that
: the EISA config tools are kind of flaky as is the power up sequence.
Well, I have an Intel GX/Pro with only an SMC and a DPT board.
I believe my system also has a flaky power-on. Occasionally, on power-up,
before the diagnostic count-down, the screen turns light-grey and a bunch of
greek characters flash on top. This is more likely to occur when I switch
disks/peripherals in the SCSI chain.
Very rarely, some of the characters tremble in a normal start-up sequence.
This has not happened to me for a while. Once, the video board thought I
only had 1MB, instead of 2MB.
Switching the entire system (disks, computer, etc) off for a while (say 5
minutes) tends to make the problem go away.
Not NeXT's fault, of course, but it is just another bad experience switching
from NS/040 to NS/Intel. I hope my neXt (Pentium) machine will be more
stable. In the meantime, I hope you are all appealing to NeXT for more
robustness in dealing with Intel glitches.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: Brian J Haythorn <bh2d+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 16Meg works, 32Meg doesn't
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 15:24:16 -0400
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <YgikFUu00iUz08toEl@andrew.cmu.edu>
References: <29c81eINNppl@gap.caltech.edu>
<29dv63$39c@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
In-Reply-To: <29dv63$39c@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
On 12-Oct-93 in Re: 16Meg works, 32Meg
user Nick Kline@CS.Arizona.ED writes:
>I've heard that for some cheapo pc machines, lots of things only do
>24 bits (ie 16 meg) and not a full 32 bits.
If this were true then NeXT step would either be unable to access all 16
megs or unable to access peripherals because they take part of the
adress space from the MMU
From: fitzy@titan.ucs.umass.edu (JOSEPH E FITZGERALD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 16Meg works, 32Meg doesn't
Date: 12 Oct 1993 19:45:50 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <29f1he$jt3@nic.umass.edu>
References: <29c81eINNppl@gap.caltech.edu>
John C. Stevenson (jcs@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
: My 486 ISA machine runs NeXTSTEP great with 16Meg Ram (70ns)
: I, pig that I am, added another 16Meg. CMOS reconfigured, and DOS runs
: fine, but NeXTSTEP won't boot. RDP exception.
: Memory down to 16Meg, works fine, memory up to 32 Meg, won't boot
: any ideas???
Could be several things...you most likeyly have to disable bios shadowing
and all those options in your CMOS config. BIOS shadowing usually places
the bios right above the 16 meg line which breaks contiguous memory (the
machine stops counting RAM when it finds a break). There are other
possibilities -- if you use an ATI GUP you might have the Aperture setting
at that point...
None of these sound like the answer to your problem (you mention you
reconfigured CMOS...), but I thought I'd mention them just in case.
Joe Fitzgerald
From: davec@fa.disney.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HeLP, NeXT screen getting dimmer!
Date: 12 Oct 1993 16:54:19 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <m0omrc8-000FaMC@dalsdb>
bfoley@obelisk.berkeley.edu (Brian Foley) writes:
> At first, I thought it was just my eyes, but someone else confirmed it.
> The NeXT's monochrome screen does not get as bright as it used to. In
> fact, it is becoming too dark to do any serious reading on. It is true
> that the computer is not new anymore (original cube circa 1989?) but is
> this normal?
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
> Does anyone have a solution?
>
> Please let us know while we can still read the screen!
True, the original NeXT MegaPixel monochrome displays dimmed
with age. Quite a time ago I called up our local office in LA about
the problem (NeXT was still in the hardware business at the time) and
they recommended I ask NeXT North to swap it out. They quite
cheerfully swapped new ones for the old ones, and we even got the
newer models with the built-in microphones since they were out of stock on
the older style.
To avoid disseminating bad information, I called up NeXT:
(800)848-NeXT,
for the number of the Bell Atlantic NeXT hardware support office:
(800)499-NeXT
and confirmed the following:
Either the picture tube or the L-board could be causing your dimmness,
and it was a problem with the older 4000 series MegaPixel displays.
I don't remember whether our problem was the tubes or the boards,
but many NeXT owners knew about it at the time.
The L-board contains the high voltage electronics and can be replace
either by yourself (with a $385 kit) or by them (with a $599 monitor
swap). Neither requires being on a maintenance contract.
They recommend sending it in for the $599 swap, but if you're sure
the problem is the board, not the tube, and if you're comfortable with
high voltages, gut wrenching mechanical alignment, screw turning,
vertical hold adjustment, etc, then the do-it-at-home kit is for you.
Instructions are included.
If you're on maintenance, the swap is free.
The swap is $599 no matter what the monitor's problem is. They just
do the repair and send it to the next customer who needs an exchange.
Dave Coons
davec@fa.disney.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: external DOS formated HD - read and write - at black ?
Message-ID: <CEt05C.6B@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Organization: arts
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 21:39:12 GMT
Hello,
is there anybody out there, who can tell me, if an extern DOS formated
HD and changeable one can be read and written by NeXT? And, also
perhaps formated in DOS by NeXT?
thanks for answers
Manfred
From: chi@watnxt05.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NO CD-ROM drive found!!! HELP!
Date: 13 Oct 1993 00:35:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <29fige$6ab@galaxy.ucr.edu>
References: <1993Oct12.142639.15129@radical2.radical.com>
In article <1993Oct12.142639.15129@radical2.radical.com> Ralph_Jung@radical.com
(Ralph Jung) writes:
> In article <CEpxso.1pr@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
> writes:
> >
> > For some reason SCSI id's 0 and 1 are reserved for Hard Drives *only* on
the
> > Adaptec. Set the CD-Drive to 2 or 6 (some people have reported problems
with
> > CD-ROM drives at anything but 6, we have ours at 2 without a problem with
the
> > 1542c)
> >
> > In article <29aag5$bg1@galaxy.ucr.edu> chi@watnxt10 (Denny Chuang) writes:
> > >
> > > I just got a Adaptec SCSI Controller 1540CF and a Toshiba 3401
> > > internal CD-ROM Drive. I am using the factory default setting
> > > on Adaptec SCSI card and the CD-ROM Drive is set at ID=0.
> > >
> > > The installation procedure stopped with an error
> > >
> > > "NO CD-ROM drive found!"
> > >
>
> I am helping a client attempt to install NS/FIP on a new Gateway 2000 486-66V
> with an Adaptec 1542CF and a Toshiba 3401B and I am also getting the "NO
CD-ROM
> drive found" error. I tried changing the SCSI ID on the drive from 0 to 6
and
> nothing worked. Everything is configured per the latest NeXT Answers
> information.
>
> I was wondering if the new Adpatec 1542CF and Toshiba 3401B are still NEXSTEP
> compatible? Has anyone got NS/FIP to load with the 1542CF and 3401B combo?
The 1542C and 1540C are both supported by NeXTSTEP. But, I am not
sure about the Toshiba 3401B CD-ROM drive.
By the way, are you using the default setting on the CD-ROM?
One thing I'm not sure of is about the jumpers on the back of the
CD-ROM. There are two plastics labeled T-RES. I believe these
are the terminators for the CD-ROM Drive. Since the Toshiba 3401
CD-ROM drive is the only SCSI device in the system, I didn't remove
these two terminators during the installation.
I would really appreciated any help or comments about this issue.
List of people that I know are having the problem right now!
Dane Jasper <dane@nermal.santarosa.edu>
Denny Chuang <chi@watserv.ucr.edu>
Ralph Jung <Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com>
Please help us!!!
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: An update... Re: An S3-928 add-in card that works.
Message-ID: <1993Oct12.232159.7387@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Oct8.221019.8348@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 23:21:59 GMT
An update...
1. Thanking NeXT.
2. New results.
3. Where to find this video controller.
Below...
In article <1993Oct8.221019.8348@Princeton.EDU>
gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
> After *much* searching and testing, I have found that the Actix
First, I want to explictly thank Ian Stewart, at NeXT, for his
valuable support in our efforts to get the Actix video controller to
work. Ian provided key information at key times, and kept this
investigation on track.
It's clear, from my interaction with Ian, that NeXT is doing
*everything* feasible to expand the range of peripherals supported by
NEXTSTEP. Thanks again, Ian and NeXT, for your support!
> GraphicsENGINE Ultra VLplus, with 2 Meg of VRAM, an S3-928 based
board
> (with BT RAMDAC) works with NeXT's S3 driver. [For what it's worth,
> this board got _PC Magazine_'s Editor's Choice award earlier this
> year.]
>
> I have only one remaining dissatisfaction, though this may have to
do
The remaining dissatisfaction has been cleared up, I believe.
> with my monitor, rather than the card or the driver (please see
> below).
...has to do with the monitor, as far as I can tell, not the card or
driver, subject to further verification by other users, I hope.
>
> I have tested the following modes, displaying on a Sony 1730:
>
> Mode Driver Name in Configure.app
>
> 1024x768x8 bit grey @ 70Hz S3 (PS/2 ValuePoint)...
> 800x600x16 bit color @ 60Hz S3 (PS/2 ValuePoint)...
> 1024x768x16 bit color @ 60Hz S3 Graphics Adapter*
> 1024x768x16 bit color @ 72HZ S3 Graphics Adapter*
>
> * using default memory mapping address from "ValuePoint" config.
>
> The first two modes work very well. The third mode works okay, but
> the image is not as stable (flicker-free) as we would like --but is
> equivalent to the ATI performance in this mode, on the same system.
> The fourth mode is not as good as the third mode --there is a
> continuous pulsing. I have tried to get rid of the pulsing by
I tried the fourth mode with a 15 inch NEC that apparently refreshes
at a higher rate than the Sony 1730 I was using. The result: *No*
pulsing, as far as I could tell.
On the other hand, our users prefer the Sony 1730 to every other
option we've looked at. So, if indeed the source of this problem is
that the Sony cannot sync higher than 70 Hz, at 1024x768x16
resolution, I would repeat the following hope:
>
> I hope that NeXT will add a new mode to the driver (1024x768x16bit
> color @ 70 Hz) and that this will improve the display on my Sony,
> which is a fantastic display, in my opinion.
If this can be worked out, we would likely use the Actix in our plan
to install 40 (publically available) NEXTSTEP clients to access what
is soon to be the largest database of images in the world.
I hope, with this positive news to report, that others of you will
duplicate these results. Just remember to use the address for mapped
memory that is the default value for the "S3 (PS/2 ValuePoint)
Adapter.
Finally, and very importanly, please note that the Actix card I used
in this testing can be obtained from Kris Magnusson, at Alpine
Computing (801-268-8877).
With all best wishes,
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: NS/FIP EtherExpress 8 bit only?
Message-ID: <CEtG1E.J8D@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 03:19:58 GMT
I've been trying to install an Intel EtherExpress16 on a GW/2K. I've
set the configuration to the correct IRQ and I/O address, but when I boot
it always prints messages about running the board as 8 bit. I've checked
the EEPROM config and it is *not* set to force 8 bit. I have disabled
the boot ROM and don't have the memory window enabled...the NeXTanswers
document (1206) doesn't say *anything* about either.
Suggestions would be most appreciated.
Thanks, Scott S. Bertilson
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: best ethernet card for NS/I?
Message-ID: <1993Oct13.032538.20021@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 03:25:38 GMT
I need the best 10baseT ethernet card for an EISA system. What be it?
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: phoebe@wam.umd.edu (Pi-Hui Phoebe Hsiang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP WANTED: 1+ GB Hard Disk Suggestion
Date: 13 Oct 1993 03:44:51 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <29ftjj$jst@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Keywords: hard disk
Dear netters,
I am about to buy a 1GB to 1.7GB hard disk for my NeXTstation as an
internal boot disk. I have two questions for you.
1) Which of the following GB hard drives do you recommend?
1. Fujitus M2694ESA 1,080 MB $908 $0.84/per MB (SAG 800-989-3475)
2. Conner CP-31370 1,370 MB $969 $0.71/MB (MegaHaus 800-786-1191)
3. DEC DSP-3160 1,600 MB $1149 $0.72/MB (MegaHaus)
4. Micropolis M2217 1,700 MB $1299 $0.74/MB (MegaHaus)
(All of them are 3.5", 5400 rpm, and ~10ms average access time. I do
not consider Seagate ST11200N (1.05GB), Quantum ProDrive 1225
(1.2GB), Micropolis 2112 (1.05GB), or Maxtor 1240S (1.24GB) for
various reasons.)
2) How many partitions do you suggest?
1. One big partition.
2. Two equal partitions.
3. One 2/3 partition and one 1/3 partition.
Your help is highly appreciated. And, thanks in advance.
=========================== H E L P =============================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Subject: Re: HELP WANTED: 1+ GB Hard Disk Suggestion
References: <29ftjj$jst@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 06:08:33 GMT
Organization: The home of the Pilhuhn
Sender: news@pilhuhn.sub.org (Das Newssystem auf pilhuhn)
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In article <29ftjj$jst@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> phoebe@wam.umd.edu (Pi-Hui
Phoebe Hsiang) writes:
> Dear netters,
>
> I am about to buy a 1GB to 1.7GB hard disk for my NeXTstation as an
> internal boot disk. I have two questions for you.
>
> 1) Which of the following GB hard drives do you recommend?
> 1. Fujitus M2694ESA 1,080 MB $908 $0.84/per MB (SAG 800-989-3475)
> 2. Conner CP-31370 1,370 MB $969 $0.71/MB (MegaHaus 800-786-1191)
> 3. DEC DSP-3160 1,600 MB $1149 $0.72/MB (MegaHaus)
> 4. Micropolis M2217 1,700 MB $1299 $0.74/MB (MegaHaus)
I have the M2217 and it works fine!
By far the fastest drive is the Seagate Barracuda 2 ST12550. It work great with
the NeXT although the black hardware is too slow for it. However, gets *very*
hot and must be cooled. Shows 8ms in iostat where all the others show 12-13 ms.
> (All of them are 3.5", 5400 rpm, and ~10ms average access time. I do
> not consider Seagate ST11200N (1.05GB), Quantum ProDrive 1225
> (1.2GB), Micropolis 2112 (1.05GB), or Maxtor 1240S (1.24GB) for
> various reasons.)
>
> 2) How many partitions do you suggest?
> 1. One big partition.
> 2. Two equal partitions.
> 3. One 2/3 partition and one 1/3 partition.
Depends on your requirement. I have one partition.
>
> Your help is highly appreciated. And, thanks in advance.
>
> =========================== H E L P =============================
>
>
>
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From: tmoore@nightingale.con.utk.edu (Terry Moore)
Subject: Memory upgrade for black hardware
Message-ID: <1993Oct13.145503.10732@martha.utcc.utk.edu>
Sender: usenet@martha.utcc.utk.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Distribution: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 14:55:03 GMT
We recently a acquired a 25mhz NeXTSTATION and we want to upgrade from 8
to 24 meg of RAM. Could anyone tell me about a) the specs on SIMMs that
are desireable for this upgrade (e.g. pin requiremnets, speed, etc.) and
b) a good dealer for such a memory upgrade. Thanks in advance.
Terry Moore
tmoore@nightingale.con.utk.edu
NeXT Mail now happily accepted.
From: kenr@shl.com (Ken Rossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/Intel Notebooks - (Versa et al) How long 'til ... ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 13:47:40 -0500
Organization: SHL Systemhouse
Message-ID: <kenr-131093134740@slip-kjr.shl.com>
What enhancements am I waiting for under NS/Intel in order for it to
support:
. PCMCIA Modems
. a PCMCIA Ethernet Card (i.e., do these two just need one PCMCIA driver
or ....?)
. The color monitor of an NEC Versa (currently displays in greyscale only)
. The battery management features of the Versa (currently hangs
on reawaken from sleep)
How many of these (any?) will be available in NS3.2?
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From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Subject: NeXT CD-ROM Drive
Message-ID: <1993Oct13.185106.15168@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 18:51:06 GMT
Is the NeXT CD ROM drive still available somewhere? And if so, where.
If not, does anyone have any recommendations for NeXT compatible CD ROM
drives? I've seen the list in the NeXT FAQs, so if anyone has any
experience with them, let me know! Thanks!!
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From: jthjr@jthjr.austin.ibm.com (John T. Hollaway Jr.)
Subject: NS Intel Hardware Question
Sender: news@austin.ibm.com (News id)
Message-ID: <CEuo21.5EAz@austin.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 19:13:12 GMT
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstations and Systems - Austin
I am considering doing some development under NEXTSTEP For Intel.
Here's what I've got:
Intel 486DX
ISA Bus
8 Meg Ram
ATI Graphics Ultra Plus 1Meg video card on ISA bus.
* Mach-32 chip like Pro
* DRAM, upgradable to 2Meg
Adaptec 1542B SCSI Host Adapter
SCSI hard drive
Toshiba Xm3301-B CD-Rom
IDE hard drive
MS-compatible mouse
Is this likeley to work? I wouldn't mind upgrading to 16 Meg and possibly
to local bus (not soon), but I would like to see it run on my system before
shelling out $$$.
I am concerned that I might be stuck with 640x480x2bit. 1024x768x2bit would
be acceptible. Anybody used this video card with NS?
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From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ATI 1182x832x16 color mode
Date: 13 Oct 1993 19:21:52 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29hkgg$284@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <1993Oct8.084038.4013@cubx.com>
In article <1993Oct8.084038.4013@cubx.com> ed@cubx.com (Erik Dasque)
writes:
>
> I am probably very stupid but I can't see why the 1182x832x16 new ATI
> video color mode that you can set in the configure panel isn't mentioned
> anywhere in the accompanying 1340_ATIDriverReadMe.rtf file ??? Did anyone
> got it to work past the beautiful still image or does anyone get the
> annoying "features" when moving windows around ? (I have an ATI GUP 2 MB
> Local Bus, probably a rev 3.)
>
> Let me know...
>
--
I got it to work right out of the box. The driver came out at about
the same time I got my ALR Evolution V/60 Pentium PC
built together, and it worked immediately with a quite pleasing
picture on a Nanao FlexScan F550i. There are some very slight
disturbances while moving windows, but they are hardly noticable
and certainly don't bother me. It is said, though, that those are
much worse if you have ATI chipset Rev 3. I have Rev 6.
Andreas Windemuth
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: ATARI on the NeXT
Message-ID: <CEur15.Ay@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Organization: arts
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 20:17:29 GMT
Hi,
does anybody know, if it could be possible, running ATARI on the NeXT?
There is very good german DTP-software running fast on the ATARI.
Tja...
Manfred
From: ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu (S. V. Ramanan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cant get 1034x768 color on Gateway
Date: 13 Oct 1993 21:12:09 GMT
Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics
Message-ID: <29hqv9$k0i@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
Keywords: color, gateway
I have a new Gateway DX2/66 with the ATI XLR card with 2 meg ram.
Installation was straightforward, but the machine will not come
up in color in any mode other than the 800x600 mode, although
it seems fine in 1024x768 and 1120x832 monochrome modes.
The BIOS rev is 1.4 and the P/N is 113-19509-102 with the memory
aperture at 124Mb (0x7c00000) and the port address at 0x3b0. The
monitor is a Nanao F550i.
If i try to set 1024x768 color mode, then during the boot-up process,
after the "Configuring Device Drivers" message, i get the following:
Registering: com0
Display0: Assuming a Local Bus ATI card.
Display: Failed to match modes. Using Default mode
Registering: Display0
after which the machine boots up in 800x600 color mode.
Any suggestions etc are welcome. Tnx.
S. V. Ramanan
Dept of Physiology & Biophysics, Suny at StonyBrook,
Stony Brook, NY
Email: ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Adaptec 1542CF may not be compatible
Message-ID: <1993Oct13.212758.18253@radical2.radical.com>
Keywords: adaptec scsi next nextstep
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 21:27:58 GMT
It appears that the Adaptec 1542CF may not be compatible with NEXTSTEP.
I was getting a "No CD ROM drive found" error when attempting to load NEXTSTEP.
I eventually noticed that NEXTSTEP was not communincating (LED never active)
with the 1542CF SCSI controller. Keeping everything else as is, I replaced it
with a 1542C and the installation proceeded without any further problems.
Can anyone verify that an Adaptec 1542CF is compatible with NEXTSTEP?
By the way, the successful install was on a Gateway 2000 486/66V, manufactured
in September, configured per NeXT Answers, using a Toshiba 3401B CD ROM drive.
--
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Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
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or traditional: EXTREME
From: wehmeier@cs.nyu.edu (Udo Wehmeier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: headless cube power-on?
Date: 13 Oct 1993 19:07:19 -0400
Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences
Message-ID: <29i1n7$l4v@math1.cims.nyu.edu>
Summary: headless?
Keywords: next
Is there a way to boot black hardware without a monitor
connected? I would have to have a server with an
ascii console only. any advice appreciated.
----
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wehmeier@cims.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Subject: Anyone seen an ATI work with an SMC 16?
Message-ID: <CEv7B0.A7G@unix.portal.com>
Summary: Can't get an ATI to work with the SMC
Keywords: ATI GUP, SMC Elite 16, incompatible
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 02:08:59 GMT
I've got a really strange conflict between the SMC and the
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro. The ATI will only work with the
SMC Elite 16 when the SMC is mapped at adress 0xd0000 and the ATI is
mapped at the default address, no memory apperture, 256k
of memory visiable at power up, and only in 800x600x16 resolution.
I have a feeling that I don't have a complete understanding of
what address space the ATI is using and what address space the
SMC is using. What is unfortunate is that the driver doesn't
detect all the conflicts in addressing between the two boards.
The two boards seem to work fine independently of each other,
though.
Does anyone have a configuration that works?
Brad Wright
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From: tgao@cad3.cs.uiuc.edu (Tong Gao)
Subject: Ram speed on old next?
Message-ID: <tgao.750564847@cad3.cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 02:14:07 GMT
Could somebody tell me what is the speed of RAMs used in a old next box made
in 1989? Sorry I do not remember the model number, but it is one of the
ealiest made next. Thanks in advance.
Tong
tgao@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tgao@cad3.cs.uiuc.edu (Tong Gao)
Subject: My next box won't boot!
Message-ID: <tgao.750564999@cad3.cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 02:16:39 GMT
Somebody please help me! I have a very old next box running next operating
system version 1.0 on it. Recently, I made some change in the NetManager.
When I save the change, it asked me if I want to reboot. I chosed yes. Every
since then, it does not boot anymore. Every time when I tried to boot, it
display the screen saying that it is booting from hard disk, then after two
or three seconds, everything just freeze. I tried to boot to single user
mode using bsd -s, but it also freeze. Does anybody have any guess on what
might goes wrong(hardware, software, or something else)? Any hint is greatly
appreciated.
Tong
tgao@cs.uiuc.edu
From: kenr@shl.com (Ken Rossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/Intel Notebooks - (Versa et al) How long 'til ... ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 00:26:05 -0500
Organization: SHL Systemhouse
Message-ID: <kenr-141093002606@slip-kjr.shl.com>
References: <kenr-131093134740@slip-kjr.shl.com>
In article <kenr-131093134740@slip-kjr.shl.com>, I wrote:
> What enhancements am I waiting for under NS/Intel in order for it to
> support:
[...]
> . The battery management features of the Versa (currently hangs
> on reawaken from sleep)
A respondent by e-mail pointed out that the latest Versa eeprom does
not have this problem, so nobody should have to suffer this any longer.
I don't have the details on obtaining the new eeprom from the BBS,
or what version number is needed, but he offered to pass the info on
to me, and I will repeat it here when I get it.
Sorry for the confusion.
--
KENR@SHL.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: Re: external DOS formated HD - read and write - at black ?
Message-ID: <CEvtoL.Jw@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
References: <CEt05C.6B@manki.toppoint.de>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 10:12:21 GMT
In article <CEt05C.6B@manki.toppoint.de>
manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr) writes:
> Hello,
>
> is there anybody out there, who can tell me, if an extern DOS
formated
> HD and changeable one can be read and written by NeXT? And, also
> perhaps formated in DOS by NeXT?
>
> thanks for answers
>
> Manfred
To the question above I didn t get any answer, - is there no answer or
could nobody read me?
Manfred
From: sholland@motown.ge.com (Scott Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTStep on a Pentium
Date: 14 Oct 1993 13:42:17 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta Corp, Moorestown NJ
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29jkvp$6b5@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM>
Keywords: next pentium adaptec ati pci 486 gateway toshiba 3401B
I am looking at purchasing a system that will run NeXTStep. I already have
NeXTStep and have info from the NeXTAnswers mail server about various NeXT
operable systems.
I started looking at the Gateway 66V 486 machine but I found it uses the
Phoenix BIOS that does RAM shadowing at the 16M barrier. If I follow NeXT
recommendations and get 32M of memory, I will not be able to shadow the BIOS
when running NeXTStep. My first question is: If I disable BIOS shadowing on
a GW 66V machine, how much of a performance impact does it have on NeXTStep.
I am also looking at purchasing the GW Pentium processor box (P5-60) with
32M of memory an Adaptec Controller, it includes an PCI ATI Ultra XLR
2M Graphics card, an IDE Hard Drive. I plan to use my Toshiba 3401B CDROM
to load NeXTStep via the Adaptec Controller.
Does anyone on the list have any experience in either of these two areas?
Scott Holland 609-722-2955 Martin Marietta
sholland@motown.ge.com "I'm from Detroit, and this is not Motown"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mpeter@stud.ee.ethz.ch (Martin Peter)
Subject: interfacing NeXT laser printer
Message-ID: <mpeter.750599329@elektra>
Keywords: laser printer interface cube
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 11:48:49 GMT
Hello dudes,
might be a FAQ, but can anybody give me some hints about the interface of
the NeXT 400dpi laser printer. I would like to use it on a non NeXT system.
- What is the functions of the pins of the connector ?
- What commands/protocolls are recognized by the printer ?
- Has anybody tried to connect such a printer to a PC/Mac/Unixbox ?
Thanks
Martin
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: me@seiko.nrl.navy.mil (My Account)
Subject: Controlling serial ports on Intel machines
Message-ID: <CEw29q.38K@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Keywords: serial ports Intel
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 13:17:49 GMT
I need to setup an Intel based computer to collect data using one of the
two serial ports. I am new at programming in NeXTStep. I have done data
collection on HP work stations where I have been able to set the
characteristics of the serial port and simply copy it to a file or a pipe.
I would like to duplicate this on the Intel machine. Anybody have
suggestions?
From: droux@info.isbiel.ch (Nicolas Droux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: SCSI Processor Device under NEXTSTEP
Date: 14 Oct 1993 14:15:19 GMT
Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29jmtn$5bv@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
Keywords: SCSI, NEXTSTEP, Parallel Computers
We're actually developing the hardware and software components of a SCSI
Processor Device that will allows the access of massively parallel
machines from NEXTSTEP and other UNIX simply by connecting them on the
SCSI bus of the host computer.
The SCSI target hardware and software parts are almost clear. What I need
to know is how the device will be controlled by the initiator (in our
case, the SCSI controller) under NEXTSTEP. Assuming that the target is
implemented following the SCSI specification, the following points are not
clear for me:
1- Will NEXTSTEP automatically detect the new device and register it as a
/dev/.... device (as it does with a SCSI disk for example).
2- Is there a simple way to communicate with the device with read and
write on some file descriptors or should I use the ioctl() function and
write new version of read and write ? (I took a look at the sg_example.c
bundled with NEXTSTEP-Developer but it drives a SCSI disk and it is poorly
documented).
Any help is welcome.
Nicolas Droux
Engineering College of Biel-Bienne
Computer Science Dpt
Switzerland.
NeXTMail: droux@info.isbiel.ch
++41 32 273 111 phone
++41 32 234 377 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: annabel@ernie.psyc.upei.ca (Annabel Cohen)
Subject: Packard Bell
Message-ID: <1993Oct14.160749.11036@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>
Keywords: Packard Bell, NSIP
Sender: news@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca
Organization: University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB, Canada
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 16:07:49 GMT
Has anyone used the 410 or 420 series units from Packard Bell (spanning
models Force 110 through Force 2387) with NeXTSTEP 486?
Thanks
Annabel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ebaenen@afit.af.mil (Eric Baenen)
Subject: Hardware compatibility FAQ for NS/FIP???
Message-ID: <1993Oct14.160650.26099@afit.af.mil>
Keywords: FAQ NS/FIP hardware compatibility
Sender: news@afit.af.mil
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 16:06:50 GMT
Anbody know where the hardware compatibility FAQ for NS/FIP went to???
Eric Baenen
ebaenen@afit.af.mil
From: mlh1@bunny.gte.com (Michael Hackney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adding RAM question
Message-ID: <mlh1-141093125740@mhackney.gte.com>
Date: 14 Oct 93 17:06:25 GMT
Sender: news@ceylon.gte.com
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: GTE Laboratories
My Gateway 4DX2-66V was ordered with 32M RAM. However, only 16M came in the
machine. Gateway made good and shipped out the extra 16M overnight.
Meanwhile, I got the NeXTSTEP Evaluation Kit installed and everything
working. WHen the RAM came in, I put it in the machine (1 16M SIMM, the
original is also a 16M SIMM - however, they do look different) and
rebooted. Now I get this error right after the boot prompt:
Unexpected kernel trap d eip 175885
Raise RDP exception 2 code d subcode 0
Waiting for RDP connection (type 'c' to continue)
Typing 'c' doesn't do anything. The machine succesfully tests 32M of RAM
and runs Windows jsut fine. When I took the extra 16M out, NeXTSTEP runs
properly again.
Does anyone know what's going on? What is an RDP exception?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Michael
// Michael Hackney email mhackney@gte.com
// GTE Laboratories voice (617) 466-2619
// 40 Sylvan Rd. fax (617) 890-9320
// Waltham, MA 02254
From: Olav Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 1Anyone know how to hook up ...
Date: 14 Oct 1993 17:40:03 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29k2tj$67l@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi,
Does anyone know how to hook up a 030 board into a cube so an 030 and
an 040 are working together in the same box?
___________________________________________________
B.Olav Anderson
Autodidact
NeXTSTEP CyberSurfer
e-mail olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca NeXT Mail? Of course!
Vancouver, B.C.
"I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to
elevate his life by a conscious endeavor."
H.D.Thoreau
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility FAQ for NS/FIP???
Message-ID: <1993Oct14.175700.15820@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <1993Oct14.160650.26099@afit.af.mil>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 93 17:57:00 GMT
Eric Baenen writes
> Anbody know where the hardware compatibility FAQ for NS/FIP went
> to???
Where it always has been. Send email to nextanswers@next.com with
subject line "1002"
Maybe we should have a weekly posting with subject line "How to get
the NeXTSTEP hardware compatibility guide" explaining about
nextanswers.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bobcook@slac.stanford.edu (Bob Cook)
Subject: Which SIMM is producing parity errors?
Message-ID: <CEwFJu.H9u@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 18:04:42 GMT
We have an old NeXTStation with 8 sockets for memory. They're all filled with
4 MB parity SIMMs. The m command to the ROM monitor produces:
Memory sockets 0-3 have 16 MB parity SIMMs ... (0x4000000-0x5000000)
Memory sockets 4-7 have 16 MB parity SIMMs ... (0x5000000-0x5ffe000)
Memory sockets 8-11 have no SIMMs installed (0x0-0x0)
Memory sockets 12-15 have no SIMMs installed (0x0-0x0)
The machine has gotten a number of panics or errors during boot, each of which
included one of these two messages:
Parity error at address 0x46a5cb0, SIMM memory sockets 4-7
Parity error at address 0x4e6e6cc, SIMM memory sockets 4-7
These messages seems to conflict with the ROM monitor m command response, since
both addresses seem to me to be included in 0x4000000-0x5000000 which m
reported to be sockets 0-3, not 4-7 as the error messages claim. I'm curious
about that, but the answer isn't critical.
What I really want to know is this. Which of the 8 sockets holds these
addresses, so I can replace the bad SIMMs? If I can't find that out, which 4
of the 8 sockets hold them, so I can remove the 16 MB of good memory and use
them elsewhere while trying to get the bad one(s) fixed? (I'm assuming I do
have 16 MB of good memory.)
Thanks for any light you can shed.
--
Bob Cook bobcook@slac.stanford.edu
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center NeXT mail okay
From: windemut@cumbne.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Working Pentium system: ALR Evolution V/60 (desktop)
Date: 14 Oct 1993 18:18:31 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29k55n$1ej@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear searchers for white hardware,
A few days back there was a request for experience with
Pentium-based NEXTSTEP systems. Well, I finally managed
to get my ALR Evoultion V/60 running this week, and I
decided I should share my experience with the net.
I have no other relations to ALR than being a satisfied
customer. If this comes out to be overly positive it is
because of my genuine enthusiasm.
The system works great, and is very stable. I would buy
the same again, give or take some disk or memory. It feels
much faster than NeXT hardware, and the screen looks really
good, in native NeXT resolution at 68MHz. In short, installation
is somewhat tricky, but once it is up and running it
is a wonderful machine, for a reasonable cost (about $6000).
I ordered an ALR Evolution V/60 Desktop Pentium system directly
from ALR. They told me it would take about six weeks; it came within
four weeks. I ordered it with a 340Mb IDE drive, 32Mb of memory and
an ATI GUP 2Mb video card. I ordered a Nanao 550i Monitor, a
MediaVision PAS 16 soundcard, an SMC Ethercard Ultra (which did not
work) and an Adaptec 1542C SCSI Interface from a local vendor. I
used a NeXT CD-ROM drive for installation. I had to return the SMC
card and promptly got an Intel EtherExpress 16 for it, which seems
to work great (since yesterday). I had no problem integrating
the new machine into an existing network of 5 black machines.
The machine benchmarks at 56 VAX MIPS, the floating point
performance is about 60% of our Iris Indigo (the 100MHz R4400).
I am very pleased with that. The IDE drive works fine, it never
broke seriously in the few cases when I had to cold boot (always
for some known reason unrelated to the machine itself).
The NXFactor is around 0.8 at native NeXT resolution, as
expected from an ATI card. Big windows do not move
smoothly, but It isn't bad enough to be a problem for me.
It is not possible to directly install NS 3.1 from CD-ROM onto
the IDE drive. When I found that out, I ordered an additional
SCSI drive (which went bad and is currently being exchanged).
Meanwhile, (before the arrival of the SCSI disk), I managed to install
a minisystem on a Bernoulli removable SCSI drive (Very tricky, let
me know if you want to attempt that), and using that I could load
the IDE drive from the CD-ROM. You could get the ALR with
a SCSI drive, which costs somewhat more, to circumvent that
problem. I do think, however, that SCSI drives are more prone
to loss of data from power failures or cold boots.
Another way that has been successfully tried is to format and
build the IDE drive on another NS/Intel machine. If you
don't have the resources (SCSI drives, other computers)
it might still be best to get the IDE drive and buy or borrow a
cheap ISA IDE controller for use during the installation.
I used some of the tricks posted on the net to get the sound card
running, it worked like a charm on first try. I connected it
to the little speaker that comes with the ALR, the sound
you get from that is very low, just audible at the highest
volume setting. Since I am in an open office space, that is
good enough for me. For better results you should connect a
set of speakers to the card, I haven't tried that yet.
I got the new drivers from the net for the ATI card, the serial
ports and the EtherExpress card, and all of them seem to work
flawlessly. I am now ready to give up my NeXTstation to an
eagerly waiting office mate and use the ALR exclusively.
I hope this helps,
Andreas Windemuth
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From: davec@fa.disney.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Recognizing NeXTdimension at boot time
Date: 14 Oct 1993 14:20:58 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <m0onY4q-000FaNC@dalsdb>
In a flurry of enthusiasm, we re-installing our loaned-out NeXTdimension
card, only to find 040 cube no longer recognizes it during the boot process,
and the NeXTdimension server fails to start.
Booting under OS 2.1, we got this at the end of the boot process:
Oct 14 05:51:26 kanga WindowServer: Problem starting the NeXTdimension.psdrvr
driver. Continuing.
At first, we assumed the ND card itself was broken, but we tried it on
another 040 cube and had no problems.
Changing backplanes didn't help either.
Trying booting under OS 3.1 we had no errors, but still the board wasn't
recognized, the NeXTdimension server failed to start, and the
messages (between which the server is supposed to start) looked like this:
Oct 11 20:39:48 kanga reboot: Reboot complete
Oct 11 20:40:19 kanga mach: audio kernel server initialized
Swapping the CPU for a borrowed 040 card, however, fixed everything:
Oct 11 08:55:42 kanga reboot: Reboot complete
Oct 11 08:56:12 kanga mach: NeXTdimension Board in Slot 2:
Oct 11 08:56:12 kanga mach: ROM Version 43, Memory Controller step 1,
i860 step C.1
Oct 11 08:56:12 kanga mach: 32 Mbytes of DRAM installed, NTSC video
configured
Oct 11 08:56:19 kanga mach: NeXTdimension server running (31)
Oct 11 08:56:29 kanga mach: audio kernel server initialized
Needless to say, we suspected the CPU card.
So in a gallant attempt to fix our CPU card, we removed the battery,
shorted its holder's connectors together for 10 seconds and left the
battery out all night. We were told this is one way to clear the
non-volatile RAM to its default state, and that it did.
Still, the NeXTdimension card was not recognized.
Has anyone ever had this problem?
Are the 'Extended Diagnostics' available on the net?
Should we just call NeXT for a CPU board swap? It seems to work perfectly
in every other way.
Dave Coons
Walt Disney Feature Animation
davec@fa.disney.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dpeter@hsd.com
Subject: Re: Q: Recommended Scanner for NSI
Message-ID: <CEwH0x.69G@hsd.com>
Sender: usenet@hsd.com
Organization: HSD Microcomputer, U.S., Inc.
References: <1993Oct4.145208.13971@KYnug.org>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 18:36:32 GMT
In article <1993Oct4.145208.13971@KYnug.org> Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
writes:
> Looking for a scanner solution for Intel, what are the recs for this.
>
> --
> Neil Greene
> President, benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
> President, Kentucky NeXT User Group, Inc.
> North American, TIFFany Distributor
Try HSD, by far the leading vendor of scanning products for NeXTSTP Intel
and Motorola. No, I have no bias...
Please contact me directly if you would like product info, prices, or
information about special promotional programs.
--
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
Ph. (408) 774-1400
Fax (408) 774-1402
Email: dpeter@hsd.com (NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dpeter@hsd.com
Subject: Re: Scanners and NS/FIP
Message-ID: <CEwH9I.6AF@hsd.com>
Sender: usenet@hsd.com
Organization: HSD Microcomputer, U.S., Inc.
References: <28sdst$16m@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 18:41:42 GMT
In article <28sdst$16m@crcnis1.unl.edu> hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B.
Hickman) writes:
>
> Does anyone have recommendations for scanners/software for NS/FIP?
>
> In particular, I would be interested to hear from anyone using a
> HP ScanJetIIc with NS/FIP.
>
> Thanks,
> Hubert Hickman
HSD currently offers a wide range of scanners for NeXTSTEP Intel and
Motorolla, all at very competitive prices. Our award-winning PowerScan
Professional software currently supports all HSD and Umax scanners. And
soon we will release a version of PowerScan that also supports all
scanners from HP, Epson, Microtek, Ricoh and Fujitsu.
Here's info about PowerScan:
HSD Products for NEXTSTEP
Product Name: PowerScan Professional Scanning Bundle
List Price: $495.00
Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP
Product description:
PowerScan Professional is a complete bundle of full-featured scanning
applications for computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional
bundle includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for
scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based
application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy
machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your
scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine.
PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing
application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP.
PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application.
Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold
adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion,
and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats.
PowerScan also supports Spectrum Enhancement, HSD's proprietary
scan enhancement technology which allows you to finely tune the
scanners dynamic range before scanning an image. The results are
rich, vibrant images that come alive with color and contain the subtle
details and nuances other scanners would miss.
PowerScan 2.0 works with all HSD and Umax scanners and includes
support for an optional automatic document feeder and transparency
adapter. Support for additional scanners will be available soon.
PowerFax is a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and
fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine--with just a single click of
your mouse! Simply put a document in your scanner, select PowerFax from
the Services menu, then enter a fax number in the fax panel. Your document
is automatically scanned and faxed to the destination you chose.
PowerCopy is a "Services" based application which utilizes your
scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine with just a single
click of your mouse! Just put a document in your scanner, select
PowerCopy from the Services menu, then enter the number of copies
to print in the print panel. Your document is automatically scanned and
the number of copies you specify are sent to your printer.
--
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
Ph. (408) 774-1400
Fax (408) 774-1402
From: daniel@zac.itesm.mx(Daniel Ramirez Valdez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT's hardware Price$
Date: 14 Oct 1993 19:47:48 GMT
Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey
Message-ID: <29kad4$2d8j@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>
Hi net!
I'm just writing this to get information about a price.
Someone have a NeXTStation Color, 32 Mb RAM, 400 Mb HD, NeXTStep 3.0 and a NeXT
LaserPrinter, he asks me for $7,500 dlls., is the price fair? cheap?
Ok, just imagine that I would buy that computer, we have two NeXT Stations with
8 Mb RAM and 105 Mb HD, and one NeXT Cube, 16 Mb RAM, and 1.7 Gb HD, all
running system release 2.1, my questions is, NeXT Step 3.0 fits in those 105 Mb
hard disks to upgrade??
Someone told me that 105 Mb isn't enough for NeXT Step 3.0.
TIA, Daniel
PD: Please reply directly to my account!
--
Stardard disclaimers applies...
"When things just can't possibly get any worse, they will."
Daniel Ramirez Valdez, alias Danilo "All you need is a Mac!"
Student/NeXT-Macintosh System Administrator/Computer Technician
daniel@zac.itesm.mx
From: clune@physics11 (Tom Clune)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Alternative Printers?
Date: 14 Oct 1993 21:33:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29kgk6$qd9@agate.berkeley.edu>
I have recently decided to get a printer for my
Nextstation and am seeking advice and information from
the NeXT community.
To start with, where can I find the FAQ about printers?
I would like to know what kind of cable I can use with
non-next printers. Do I need to get a postcript printer,
or do reliable drivers exist for the Next for other
printer types. Has anyone got any info on reliability on any of a
number of new postscript printers in the $750 price range.
Thanks for your time.
- Tom
clune@physics.berkeley.edu
From: chi@watnxt12 (Denny Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542CF may not be compatible
Date: 14 Oct 1993 22:00:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <29ki5f$pqk@galaxy.ucr.edu>
References: <1993Oct13.212758.18253@radical2.radical.com>
Ralph Jung (Ralph_Jung@radical.com) wrote:
: It appears that the Adaptec 1542CF may not be compatible with NEXTSTEP.
: I was getting a "No CD ROM drive found" error when attempting to load NEXTSTEP.
: I eventually noticed that NEXTSTEP was not communincating (LED never active)
: with the 1542CF SCSI controller. Keeping everything else as is, I replaced it
: with a 1542C and the installation proceeded without any further problems.
: Can anyone verify that an Adaptec 1542CF is compatible with NEXTSTEP?
: By the way, the successful install was on a Gateway 2000 486/66V, manufactured
: in September, configured per NeXT Answers, using a Toshiba 3401B CD ROM drive.
: --
The Adaptec Company has discountinued making Adaptec 1540c and 1542c.
Newer model 1540cf and 1542cf is said to be faster and there is no
way to get an exchange for an older version of 1540c or 1542c.
Anyone know if the NeXTSTEP version 3.2 going to support 1540cf/1542cf?
From: ponchy_c@cation.epita.fr (cedric ponchy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: external DOS formated HD - read and write - at black ?
Date: 14 Oct 1993 23:57:53 GMT
Organization: Epita (French Computer Science school)
Sender: ponchy_c@cation (cedric ponchy)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29kp21$jsi@boson.epita.fr>
References: <CEt05C.6B@manki.toppoint.de> <CEvtoL.Jw@manki.toppoint.de>
...
|> > is there anybody out there, who can tell me, if an extern DOS
|> formated
|> > HD and changeable one can be read and written by NeXT? And, also
|> > perhaps formated in DOS by NeXT?
...
I successfully used an SCSI HD formated with NS fs on a NS/FIP
platform, on a NeXTColor turbo. You just need an external supply of
power, plug it on the back of a black box.
Bye
--
Cedric "ponpon" PONCHY //\\Oo//\\
"to be or not to be? Not to be..." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
e-mail: ponpon@free.fr (NeXTMail welcome)
From: jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cirrus Logic can work SVGA
Date: 15 Oct 1993 00:42:04 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <29krksINNsku@gap.caltech.edu>
Finally, after five and a half months I've
discovered how to get the STB Horizon video
board to work in SVGA..(and probably other
Cirrus Logic chip based video boards)
are you ready? da da dah..:
type 'exit' at the login panel
that's it. A bug in the 3.1 driver
fails the first try. Restarting the window server
(with exit) fixes it.
The STB Horizon is specifically mentioned on
the hardware compatability guide, yet I could
find no help with this bug. No nextanswers,
nothing from STB. nothing.
finally, Darren Smith at next had mercy
on me. jeezzz, c'mon next
jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: how do you test memory (buying some used 4MB simms)
Message-ID: <1993Oct15.004752.5557@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 93 00:47:52 GMT
I'm buying some used 30Pin 4MB Simms (100ns) to put in my 25MHz slab. After
I replace 4 of the 1MB simms in my machine I will have:
4 - 4MB 100ns Simns
4 - 1MB 80ns Simms
Apparently this is not a problem since the machine was designed for 100ns
simms. My question is, how do I know if each bit in that 16MB of new RAM
is good? Is there some test?
From: jcs@cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: answer the phone
Date: 15 Oct 1993 00:46:56 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <29kru0INNstb@gap.caltech.edu>
i've mastered 'tip'ing for transfer files
unix to unix. now i'd like to get the
machine to anser the phone How?
advTHANKSance
john stevenson
jcs@alumni.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (H. K. Sieglinger)
Subject: NeXT/Mac box
Message-ID: <CEx35v.78s@kaiwan.com>
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access (310-527-4279,714-539-4011,830-6063 guest)
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 02:34:42 GMT
From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: IBM ThinkPad 750's
Date: 15 Oct 1993 04:30:26 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29l912$j26@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I Was Looking at the IBM 750's today...I Note that the new docking port comes
with built in SCSI, and AT card interface. Anyone know if it would be posible to
get NeXTStep running on this sort of machine?
thanks
John.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: ALR Evolution V
Message-ID: <glenCEx9qx.8GA@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 04:56:56 GMT
Is anyone out there running NeXTStep on an ALR Evolution V (Pentium Based)?
I just got one last week and I have installed 32mb ram, adaptec 1542B scsi
card, 600 meg HD and a ATI Ultra Graphics Pro VLB 2mb ram. I currently
do not have NeXTStep loaded, waiting for 3.2. In the mean time I am running
Dos/windoz. The system sure seems to crash alot with this config. I was wonder-
ing if anyone is running NSFIP on it successfully and what you think..
-steve
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: how do you test memory (buying some used 4MB simms)
Date: 15 Oct 1993 04:55:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <29lagj$r44@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <1993Oct15.004752.5557@sol.UVic.CA>
In article <1993Oct15.004752.5557@sol.UVic.CA> gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg
Toews) writes:
>
> I'm buying some used 30Pin 4MB Simms (100ns) to put in my 25MHz slab. After
> I replace 4 of the 1MB simms in my machine I will have:
>
> 4 - 4MB 100ns Simns
> 4 - 1MB 80ns Simms
>
> Apparently this is not a problem since the machine was designed for 100ns
> simms. My question is, how do I know if each bit in that 16MB of new RAM
> is good? Is there some test?
As far as I know the best and fastest (maybe the only) test for RAM is put it
in the machine and power it up. Most if not all machines do a RAM check at
powerup and if you have a fault somewhere it should show up. Do keep in mind
though that I am not a professional techie type so there may be things I don't
know here.
--
=========================================================================
Alex Currier | I get no kick from champagne...
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | mere alcohol doesn't thrill me at all
NeXTmail capable! | but I get a kick out of UNIX.
=========================================================================
From: wampner@acme.ucf.edu (Eric Wampner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Stops at Language Question.
Date: 14 Oct 1993 23:39:46 GMT
Organization: Institute for Simulation and Training, Orlando, Fl.
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <29ko02$hao@osceola.cs.ucf.edu>
Any quick answer about why the boot would stop at the language
question?
Specifications: Keyboard doesn't appear to function at the language
selection prompt. Unplugging and re-plugging it has no effect (lights light
up briefly on the keyboard).
Specifications:
New Gateway 4DX/2 66V
Anykey Keyboard. Other PC clone Keyboard
2MB ATI Ulra Pro /VLB
220MB IDE drive.
Adaptec 1542C SCSI
Sun SCSI CD.
Everything appears to function up until that point. Drives recognized,
CD Spins, Etc.
Eric Wampner
wampner@acme.ucf.edu
eww@grebble.oau.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: deininge@cen.encompass.com (David Deininger)
Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility FAQ for NS/FIP???
Message-ID: <1993Oct15.142040.12884@glv.uucp>
Sender: uucp@glv.uucp
Organization: Encompass
References: <1993Oct14.175700.15820@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 14:20:40 GMT
Stefano Pagiola writes:
> Eric Baenen writes
> > Anbody know where the hardware compatibility FAQ for NS/FIP went
> > to???
>
> Where it always has been. Send email to nextanswers@next.com with
> subject line "1002"
>
> Maybe we should have a weekly posting with subject line "How to get
> the NeXTSTEP hardware compatibility guide" explaining about
> nextanswers.
>
Maybe the most recent version of the guide could be posted periodically. Or at
least some notification when it's been updated.
--david deininger
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HD for Slab (Small)
Date: 15 Oct 1993 15:18:32 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <29mf08$730@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi,
I'm a student with a NSTC 32/250. I need about 250 mb more
disk space, yet I don't want to (can't afford) to replace
my internal Seagate with a larger drive. Can someone suggest
a good COMPATIBLE external drive in the 250mb range? That is,
a vendor selling the same Seagate in an external box with cable
I can just phone and order from quickly? I'd try AFS or Spin,
but I need to know what models have been tried with a slab.
I know a Futjitsu 520 internal can be had for about $550, but I
only have about $350.
Thanks!
L. Anathea Brooks
University of Maryland
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Hardware compatibility FAQ for NS/FIP???
Date: 15 Oct 1993 12:33:41 -0400
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29mjd5$8k4@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <1993Oct15.142040.12884@glv.uucp>
David Deininger writes
> Stefano Pagiola writes:
> > Eric Baenen writes
> > > Anbody know where the hardware compatibility FAQ for NS/FIP went
> > > to???
> >
> > Where it always has been. Send email to nextanswers@next.com with
> > subject line "1002"
> >
> > Maybe we should have a weekly posting with subject line "How to get
> > the NeXTSTEP hardware compatibility guide" explaining about
> > nextanswers.
> >
>
> Maybe the most recent version of the guide could be posted periodically. Or
at
> least some notification when it's been updated.
Usually when there has been an update Conrad sends an ascii copy to
comp.sys.next.announce. Its posted with a pointer to the postscript version on
ftp.next.com.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cant get 1034x768 color on Gateway
Date: 15 Oct 1993 17:33:57 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29mmu5$i70@rosie.next.com>
References: <29hqv9$k0i@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
In article <29hqv9$k0i@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu (S. V. Ramanan) writes:
>
> I have a new Gateway DX2/66 with the ATI XLR card with 2 meg ram.
> Installation was straightforward, but the machine will not come
> up in color in any mode other than the 800x600 mode, although
> it seems fine in 1024x768 and 1120x832 monochrome modes.
> If i try to set 1024x768 color mode, then during the boot-up process,
> after the "Configuring Device Drivers" message, i get the following:
munch...
> Registering: com0
> Display0: Assuming a Local Bus ATI card.
> Display: Failed to match modes. Using Default mode
> Registering: Display0
>
> after which the machine boots up in 800x600 color mode.
>
The ATI driver limits 16 bit color to 800 x 600 if it detects certain
low-end DAC chips, such as the Bt481 and ATT20C491. These DACs have a
clock limit of 80 MHz, and an 8 bit data path into the chip, requiring
special clocking of the pixel data for 16 bit operation.
16 bit color operation is restricted to 800 x 600 noninterlaced at 60 Hz
refresh rate to avoid running the DAC at clock rates exceeding the
manufacturer's rated specification. 8 bit gray scale operation is
available up to 1024 x 768 noninterlaced at 76 Hz.
Operation may also be restricted to 800 x 600 16 bit color resolution if
only 1 Mb of frame buffer memory is detected on a board. In this case, 8
bit gray scale modes up to 1120 x 832 may work, as these all require 1 Mb
or less frame buffer memory.
Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM
----
I don't speak for NeXT Computer, and NeXT Computer doesn't speak for me.
Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility,
and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer. In fact, it
was probably produced by line noise.
From: dougr@meaddata.com (Doug Ritter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dead NeXT Help
Date: 15 Oct 1993 18:59:05 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Message-ID: <29mrtp$eg1@meaddata.meaddata.com>
I am working with an old NeXT system that will not boot. It will power-up,
and the disk icon appears and begins to "spin", then the system hangs (and
the icon quits spinning).
Before you flame me for not RTFM'ing, I don't have TFM or software.
What do I do next?
Any help appreciated!
--
===============================================================================
Douglas N. Ritter Man, woman, child, ALL are up against the Wall
dougr@meaddata.com OF SCIENCE!
..!uunet!meaddata!dougr
From: giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Can't Install NS/FIP on Lucky-Goldstar WinNeXT!
Date: 15 Oct 1993 21:31:27 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29n4rf$lf8@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Keywords: help install
We're having troubles installing NS on a Lucky-Goldstar WinNeXT system.
It gets to the point in the process where it has reset the SCSI bus the
*second* time (after initializing the floppy, etc), recognizes the
NeXTSTEP_3.1 CD, and then it hangs with a message like:
Rootdev 600, Howto 0
or
Rootdev 608, Howto 0
We are using the Adaptec 1542C card, with a Sun SCSI CD-ROM, and an internal
SCSI drive to which NeXTSTEP should be installed.
We have tried the following:
- With and without internal termination set on the card (the CD-ROM end always
terminated)
- The CD-ROM as SCSI ID# 0, 3, and 6 (when it was zero the internal drive was
disconnected and there WAS internal termination)
- Checked to make sure the CD is not hazy, as some people have had problems
with hazy CD's
- The floppy controller on the Adaptec is DISABLED according to the DIP switch
- Tried the CD-ROM drive and CD on an NS Turbo Color, and could read it fine
- We're using a PS/2 style mouse, so there shouldn't be the mouse problem
listed in the NeXTAnswers for this system
- All the settings are as specified in NeXTAnswers
I'm out of ideas. Can anyone think of something I've missed?
Thanks,
Michael Giddings
From: pgriffin@uful07.phys.ufl.edu (Paul A. Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What Laptop to buy for NS/developer?
Date: 15 Oct 1993 21:52:22 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville
Sender: pgriffin@phys.ufl.edu (reply to oscarh@hep.physics.mcgill.ca)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29n62mINNqi7@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
I am posting this for a friend, please reply to:
oscarh@hep.physics.mcgill.ca
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I am interested in installing NEXTSTEP user/developer on a 486DX2 50/66
greyscale laptop, with around 16 meg of memory and around 400 Meg in
total disk space (possibly split up into external and internal disks).
Unfortunately, none of the laptops that NeXT has certified
obviously meet these requirements.
I would be grateful for recommendations
from people with experience with NS/developer on a laptop.
Please send replies to
oscarh@hep.physics.mcgill.ca
--Oscar Hernandez
--
Paul A. Griffin, pgriffin@phys.ufl.edu
Physics Department, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL, 32611
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Serial Ports and Internal Modem on Toshiba T4400C
Date: 15 Oct 1993 22:29:48 GMT
Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <29n88s$9l@umd5.umd.edu>
Does anyone have the serial ports or an internal modem working on a
Toshiba 4400C? Or on any Toshiba Portable for that matter? I have a Toshiba
T144D/F modem installed, and I can't get it to work at all. Any attempt to
access serial ports cua or cub via tip results in "device busy" errors, and
kermit just hangs when trying to get to them.
Furthermore, there are literally thousands or errors in the console,
which say "mach: tty256: canon input overrun".
Messing around with the test3.exe hw configure app and making
appropriate changes under NS in the Configure.app netted nothing better than
changing the error message above to tty257.
This is with the new serial drivers.
Thanks,
Rich Ogata
rogata@arpa.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: chung@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Chung Ng)
Subject: Multiboot NeXTSTEP/Intel w/ OS/2 & Linux?
Message-ID: <1993Oct15.232341.14425@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 93 23:23:41 GMT
Hello,
Is it possible to set up a multiboot so that NeXTSTEP, OS/2, and Linux
can coexist on the same hard disk? If yes, how?
If not, is it possible to create a floppy boot disk for NeXTSTEP so that
I can boot from the floopy drive?
Thanks for the info. in advance.
Chung Ng
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From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (H. K. Sieglinger)
Subject: NeXT/Mac box
Message-ID: <CEysFp.58K@kaiwan.com>
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access (310-527-4279,714-539-4011,830-6063 guest)
Distribution: us
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 00:38:13 GMT
From: shukin@jester.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Canon Bubble Jet 200
Date: 16 Oct 1993 02:01:55 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <29nkmj$98d@tribune.usask.ca>
I am trying to decide upon a printer to use with NS/FIP. I am considering
a Canon BJ-200 and a HP Desk Jet 500. I am aware of the program called DOTS
and I am wondering why the BubbleJet has been dropped from the list of
compatible printers. Is it because the BubbleJet can emulate the IBM
ProPrinter and therefore DOTS iss not needed for Output? It is my
opinion that the BubbleJet is a better printer and as such I am wondering
if I would be stuck with a incompatable printer. Be advise!
Thanks
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| |\ | |_ \/ | step
NeXT User and Proud of it. | | \| |_ /\ | rules!
Windows: It's not NeXT, but... | My opinions are just that!
(306) 933-6415 Phone | NeXTMail--> not yet: I am working on it.
Internet address: shukin%am.max.umc@siast.sk.ca OR shukin@jester.usask.ca
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: NEXSTEP on Zeos 486, finally!
Message-ID: <rorCEz42J.5Mw@netcom.com>
Summary: Zeos works with NEXTSTEP...
Keywords: Zeos
Organization: PolySpock Labs
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 04:49:30 GMT
My Zeos/NEXTSTEP installation is not an isolated case. Via e-mail, I was
able to receive very prompt and useful technical help from Zeos
(@zeos.com), and I was told that they have several machines running
NEXTSTEP at Zeos.
After I had configured the hardware on my machine properly, the NEXTSTEP
installation went quickly, without a hitch. 'same goes for the NEXTSTEP
Developer package. NEXTSTEP seems quick on my machine.
My hardware is as follows:
-Zeos 486/66 (16 megs of RAM, but no cache on the motherboard, and no
on-board SCSI option.)
-431-meg Seagate HD (IDE.)
-Adaptec 1542c SCSI host adapter.
-Apple CD-300 CD-ROM drive (which works GREAT!)
-Microsoft Serial Mouse.
-Nec 5fg Monitor (and I am currently only running at Standard VGA
resolution in black & white.)
--
ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au
Subject: Re: Does US Robotics Courier 14.4 modem work on 040 station?
Message-ID: <CEywAA.99@number_one.apana.org.au>
Sender: nicolev@number_one.apana.org.au (Nicole A Vincent)
Organization: Cafe Seacombe - the Virtual NeXTSTEP Cafe Downunder.
References: <29a8he$shc@clarknet.clark.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 02:01:21 GMT
Gidday
In article <29a8he$shc@clarknet.clark.net> jmeacham@clarknet.clark.net (James
D. Meacham) writes:
> The subject above says it all. I made a deal to but this modem, and
> would like to know if anyone has any experience using this modem with a
> next, and what will I need (special drvers, etc.) Thanks in advance. Peace,
>
> JAmes
>
Can someone please post a summary of the FEATURES of this modem, WHERE I CAN
ORDER one from, and lastly the (approximate or exact) PRICE.
Much appreciated.
Nicole
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Re: Large, high-resolution greyscale monitors for 80x86 computers
Message-ID: <KENW.93Oct14210413@skyler.arc.ab.ca>
From: kenw@skyler.arc.ab.ca (Ken Wallewein)
Date: 15 Oct 93 04:04:13 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
References: <scratch.748909908@sundance.sce.carleton.ca><1993Oct1.152435.21977@rosevax.ros
emount.com><1993Oct4.230719.27867@rosevax.rosemount.com><1993Oct5.190833.25395@rosevax.rosemount.com>
Organization: K&M Systems
In-reply-to: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com's message of Tue, 5 Oct 1993 19:08:33 GMTLines: 30
In article <1993Oct5.190833.25395@rosevax.rosemount.com> grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:
> Two more data points for those interested in high-res mono tubes:
>
> IBM 8507, list $600, 19", 0.25mm, 64 shades of grey, 1024x768 (8514a compatible)
I looked into this one. It has a pretty low vertical scan rate at high
resolutions -- something around 40 Hz, as I recall.
> IBM 8508, list $1345, 19", 114ppi, 16 fo [sic] 256 gray, 1600x1200
>
> I've seen refurbished 8507's for $250. Haven't seen too many 8508's
> for sale.
>
> --
> Grant Edwards |Yow! Quick, sing me the
> Rosemount Inc. |BUDAPEST NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
> |
> grante@rosemount.com |
/kenw
.
--
/kenw (as me)
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kenw@skyler.arc.ab.ca
(403) 274-7848
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: optadm7@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (J.Cassidy - Optometry)
Subject: Video frame grabber for NS486
Message-ID: <CEzt4q.4Dx@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 13:50:50 GMT
I have yet to find a vendor for frame grabbers for NeXTSTEP
on the Intel platform. This is very frustrating, as to
do our image analysis, we must grab the video information
on DOS based machines, then transfer that information to
NeXTSTEP.
If anyone has any leads on this kind of hardware, or even
better if a hardware vendor is reading this group, I would
appreciate a phone number.
Thanks to anyone who can lend assistance!
Jim.
=========================================================================
Jim Cassidy jcassidy@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca
University of Waterloo jcassidy@quark.uwaterloo.ca (NeXTmail)
200 University Ave. (519) 885-1211 ext. 6240 Voice
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 725-0784 FAX
From: bkr@drdhh.hanse.de (Bjoern Kriews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
Date: 13 Oct 1993 06:44:35 +0100
Organization: Digital Island
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <bkr.750490734@drdhh>
References: <1993Oct4.233927.26101@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
frank@dendrite.sps.mot.com (Mark Frank) writes:
>Microp 1.2 G Drive
If you experience performance problems with this drive,
please E-Mail me. I have the 1G model and the performance was lousy.
After talking to many people including micropolis technical staff
I managed to drive it up to 7-900k/sec (DrivePerformance value).
The speed varies with the head position (zone bit recording
problem ?).
The micropolis tech told me to disable the write cache, which
brought a substantial performance increase.
Then I fiddled with some cache values to get the last out of it.
Lacking any tools, I hacked my own scsi stuff. It is in a disastrous
state - usable only for me or for someone willing to invest time
and look thoroughly through the code. If there is popular demand
for this stuff I can dig it out and mail it to somebody who is
knowing what she/he does with his raw disks.
Otherwise, I could clean it up, but I don't have any disk to
test now.
my $0.02, Bjoern
--
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Liberty is not the freedom to do whatever we want, it is the freedom to do
whatever we are able. (Bob Kirkpatrick)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: DOS Syquest drives
Date: 15 Oct 1993 09:22:32 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <29lmk8$2fj@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <CEozxu.1ox@moksha.uucp>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
mgb@moksha.uucp (Michael Branton) writes:
>Has anyone had any luck in getting a DOS Syquest drive to be mounted ? Mac
>Syquest drives are no problem, but there seems to be nothing in
>/usr/filesystems for dealing with DOS Syquest drives...
No, mounting a DOS Syquest volume does not work for me, either.
Maybe it will be supported in 3.2.
Regards,
Markus.
--
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: spenton@spot.Colorado.EDU (Steve Penton)
Subject: Re: 14.4 FAXmodems - ZOOM VFX = GREAT = $160 @ Walmart
Message-ID: <CF0rIv.LBt@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU>
Sender: usenet@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU (Net News Administrator)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
References: <1993Oct12.024325.29132@nntpxfer.psi.com> <29d8ii$tg@digifix.digifix.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1993 02:13:43 GMT
I'd Like to recommend the ZOOM VFX 14.4/14.4 Faxmodem.
Quite simply, its awesome and dirt CHEAP !
Why so cheap ? Cause WALMART, yes Walmart bought a bunch and
is selling them for about $160 !
Check it out.
Steve
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Video frame grabber for NS486
Date: 17 Oct 1993 10:54:39 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Message-ID: <29r89f$ahb@scratchy.reed.edu>
References: <CEzt4q.4Dx@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
In article <CEzt4q.4Dx@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> optadm7@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
(J.Cassidy - Optometry) writes:
> I have yet to find a vendor for frame grabbers for NeXTSTEP
> on the Intel platform. This is very frustrating, as to
> do our image analysis, we must grab the video information
> on DOS based machines, then transfer that information to
> NeXTSTEP.
>
> If anyone has any leads on this kind of hardware, or even
> better if a hardware vendor is reading this group, I would
> appreciate a phone number.
We just recieved a fully loaded intel system that I will be setting up on
Monday. It includes Video Spigot for motion video input into NeXTTIME movie
format, so I can let you know how it works when it is up and running if you'd
like (drop me email [at rseymour@reed.edu], I can post a summary to the group
if there is enough interest).
Metaresearch (another place where I work) is considered building a card for
video and audio input on NS/I systems. You can drop me email at Metaresearch
(rseymour@metaresearch.com or info@metaresearch.com) if you want to hear more
or have suggestions.
--
Robert Seymour rseymour@reed.edu
NeXTSTEP Developer, Metaresearch Inc. rseymour@metaresearch.com
Artificial Life Project (NeXTmail Accepted at Both)
Philosophy & Economics, Reed College Portland, Oregon
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What NS/I ethernet card?
Date: 16 Oct 1993 18:09:19 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <29p9rv$d5@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I need an ethernet adapter for connecting my NS/I "Cube" (you should
see my fancy cubic case :-) to a black Station. Which card has the
best perfomance with NFS?
A friend of mine uses the SMC Elite and get timeouts during NFS transfers
every two seconds. Is this normal? Is this a PC problem or a SMC problem?
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Markus.
--
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What happened to Compaq's support of NS?
Date: 18 Oct 93 00:16:38 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.750903398@uiuc.edu>
I just saw a TV ad (CBS 7p 00:16:38 GMT) for Compaq's new "Presario"
line of desktop computers. Looking at the screens and listening
closely I heard the announcer mention these came with some software (I
thought that perhaps the publicly stated Compaq support of NS might
start with these machines) but the commercial featured MS Windows.
Whatever happened to Compaq (as well as other major PC vendors) saying
they were going to bundle NS with some lines of their machines? Did
this deal fall through? Have there been any advertised PCs released
with NS on them?
--
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From: camilleg@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Camille Groudeseune)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: barracuda 2.4G drive on NeXT 2.1 cube?
Date: 18 Oct 1993 03:00:48 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29t0t0$hnn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Hello all, I didn't see a FAQ here so I'll ask: We're getting a 2.4G
"Barracuda" drive for our 2.1 cube, from a Mac supplier. Are there
any gotchas I should watch out for when installing it? From what
I've heard, Mac SCSI drives work fine with NeXT (probably because
Steve Jobs had a hand in both machines).
Please reply, as I rarely read this newsgroup.
Thanks in advance,
Camille Goudeseune
U of I Computer Music Project
c-goudeseune@uiuc.edu
From: bchuang@css.itd.umich.edu (Galactus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Fast SCSI on a Turbo
Date: 18 Oct 1993 16:41:33 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD/User Services
Message-ID: <29ugvt$635@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
What seems like a million years ago, I remember that
when I bought my NeXT mono that it had "SCSI-2".
Now, I assume that this means that Fast-SCSI drives
(like a Fujitsu) can be put in to replace the internal
drive.
Since I know very little about SCSI-2,
here are some questions?
Fast SCSI is part of SCSI-2 right?
If I put this drive in, it will run faster in comparison
to other drives because it will have a higher sustatined
transfer rate (which is different from seek time)?
And do I need any weird driver or formating info to
get the benefits?
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From: melora@squid.jpl.nasa.gov (Melora E. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: replacement motherboard for HiNT owners
Date: 18 Oct 1993 16:58:29 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA
Message-ID: <29uhvl$f33@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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I am posting this for a freind who does not yet have net access for
posting messages. Please direct all replies to him (address at the bottom
of the post) or to the net,
Thanks
++++++++++++++++++++++
greetings all.
I finally got NS/I running on my machine by replacing the original EISA
HiNT motherboard with an ISA board supplied by Futuretron Inc (address
below). I also had to wash my CD with Windex...
My (now working) config:
Futuretron supplied ISA Motherboard with 32MB, 486DX2 66Mhz
ATI Graphic Ultra Pro, 2MB
Adaptec 1542C, with the floppy controller being used
Panasonic floppy disk (no 5 1/4 disk)
Toshiba 1.2GB SCSI hard drive
NEC CDR-74-1 CD ROM drive
Cheap serial mouse
SMC Elite 16 ethernet card
NEC 5FG monitor.
With the HiNT MB, I managed to get everything working except the floppy:
any action there, even just checking for disks, caused an RDP exception
crash. This happened when the floppy was run through the 1542C or through
a separate floppy controller with the controller on the 1542C disabled.
Futuretron is a Toronto area NeXT reseller: I don't know much about their
MB, except that it works. They sold me the bare MB for $300 CAN,
including installation. Your milage may vary: I don't speak for them.
Their address:
Futuretron, 145 Royal Crest Court, suite 21
Markham Ontario Canada L3R 9Z4
(416) 477-8901 the area codes are changing soon: you might have to try
(905) 477-8901.
Now I am looking for NeXT/Intel software. Anybody know where I can get
NewsGrazer?
S. Morris
Direct responses to smorris@jurgen.physics.utoronto.ca
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: davec@fa.disney.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Recognizing NeXTdimension at boot time
Date: 18 Oct 1993 12:31:15 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <m0ooyJR-000FaKC@dalsdb>
>In comp.sys.next.hardware you write:
>>In a flurry of enthusiasm, we re-installing our loaned-out NeXTdimension
>>card, only to find 040 cube no longer recognizes it during the boot process,
>>and the NeXTdimension server fails to start.
>
>Are you sure the CPU board in the cube you're re-installing it into has an
>NBIC chip in it?. I've got a weird problem with my wachine where the ND server
>fails to link on about 50% of boot attempts. Rebooting it eventually gets it
>to go. I've no idea what causes that, but it seems a little different to your
>problem. Still, I'd be interested to hear how you end up resolving this.
----
Graham,
Well, I actually did solve the problem. After borrowing another 040
board (which worked) I began systematically swapping everything that
would unplug: the ROM, the memory, and finally the NBIC chip. That
last one did it, and it now recognizes the ND every time. OK, OK, I
know saying "NBIC chip" is kind of like saying "automated ATM machine."
It seems the NBIC somehow got electrically damaged, perhaps from
static when I removed the ND months ago, and when I installed the chip
in the borrowed 040 board the problem showed up there.
Needless to say, I called up the NeXT Bell Atlantic service people
and spoke with a nice fellow who wasn't sure what an 'NBIC' was,
and inquired whether they could sell me a replacement chip. He asked
around and discovered their policy is not to sell NeXT parts separately
and if I wanted the board swapped and repaired he could take care of it.
I expressed my concern that swapping the entire board seemed silly
given I'd already found the guilty component, but they just couldn't.
Fortunately, we have an extended maintenance contract with them for
our two cubes and one station, so I'll probably just do the swap,
which involves them sending me the replacement first followed by
some memory chip swapping on my end, then returning the defective
board probably with a large post-it on the NBIC saying:
"TRY CHANGING THIS OUT FIRST."
If you have no maintenance contract, here are some choices:
1) Purchase a chip from one of the NeXTbus interface board makers;
2) Pay the board swapping cost to Bell Atlantic, which I suspect
would greatly exceed the NBIC cost;
3) Swap the defective chip with one from an ND-less 040 board,
attaching a post-it saying: "THIS NBIC HAS BRAIN DAMAGE WITH ND;"
4) Beg, borrow or steal a good NBIC from another machine, since
it's unnecessary for single board cubes.
David Coons
Walt Disney Feature Animation
davec@fa.disney.com
From: shukin@jester.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon Bubble Jet 200
Date: 18 Oct 1993 17:30:51 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <29ujsb$gep@tribune.usask.ca>
References: <29nkmj$98d@tribune.usask.ca>
Geoff Shukin (shukin@jester.usask.ca) wrote:
: I am trying to decide upon a printer to use with NS/FIP. I am considering
: a Canon BJ-200 and a HP Desk Jet 500. I am aware of the program called DOTS
: and I am wondering why the BubbleJet has been dropped from the list of
: compatible printers. Is it because the BubbleJet can emulate the IBM
: ProPrinter and therefore DOTS iss not needed for Output? It is my
: opinion that the BubbleJet is a better printer and as such I am wondering
: if I would be stuck with a incompatable printer. Please advise!
: Thanks
Further to this, Is anyone using a Canon BJ-200 with NS/FIP?
Can this be done?
Do I need Dots?
Please advise
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Geoff Shukin | _ ___
| |\ | |_ \/ | step
NeXT User and Proud of it. | | \| |_ /\ | rules!
Windows: It's not NeXT, but... | My opinions are just that!
Voice: (306) 933-6415 | NeXTMail--> not yet: I am working on it.
Internet address: shukin%am.max.umc@siast.sk.ca OR shukin@jester.usask.ca
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From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: Is it the drivers? (Was: What is "raising RDP exception"?)
Message-ID: <1993Oct18.152245.18910@newshost.lanl.gov>
Keywords: Epson NX, serial, parallel ports
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 15:22:45 GMT
About 10 days ago I posted on this subject: two "identical" Epson NX machines,
NX1 and NX2, both of which would crash with RDP exceptions. Turning off the
sound card (with Configure.app) helped immeasurably, but not totally.
I then proceeded to mostly work on getting NX1 (the "healthier" one) to do most
of the other things that were wanted, and then turned it over to its owner on
Saturday. Saturday afternoon, then, I turned on NX2 for the first time in a
week or so. And immediately ran into a rash of 10 or so RDP exceptions,
despite the sound card still being off. Everyone of these crashes required a
power-down-up cycle and a long fsck and, usually, another RDP exception during
the reboot process. Quite a bore. I gave up after the 11th crash and went
home, figuring to "fix it tomorrow".
Mike Henry had explained in a follow-up that "RDP" stands for remote debug
port, but that the real info is in the error message before that happens.
Unfortunately, when most of my kernal traps occur (when the machine is booted
and running), there ISN'T any such message, so I'm no further along in
understanding why these crashes happen.
(When it happens during the boot script, I do see a "vfs_mountroot" error
before the RDP exception, but this one has a different set of numbers to it
than the ones that occur in a running App.)
OK, now the story becomes even more interesting (confusing). On Sunday, I got
NX2 to boot finally and then, for reasons not more than a hunch, disabled BOTH
the serial and parallel ports. It has run _flawlessly and continuously_ since
then!
So, is it the drivers? I haven't heard anything about there being bad parallel
drivers. Should I replace the serial drivers with the fixed ones on next.com
even though I am, at the moment, not wanting to use them for anything?
--
--
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
NeXTMail: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
From: dougr@meaddata.com (Doug Ritter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dead NeXT Help
Date: 18 Oct 1993 18:52:19 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Message-ID: <29uol3$dh1@meaddata.meaddata.com>
References: <29mrtp$eg1@meaddata.meaddata.com>
Wow! I'm overwhelmed! Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond to
my plea for help - there were too many of you to thank individually.
No progress yet, but at least now I have a clue.
Thanks again!
--
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Douglas N. Ritter Man, woman, child, ALL are up against the Wall
dougr@meaddata.com OF SCIENCE!
..!uunet!meaddata!dougr
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: BusLogic VL-Bus SCSI Driver?
Date: 18 Oct 1993 18:46:10 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Message-ID: <29uo9i$549@scratchy.reed.edu>
I have a system I am trying to set up that has a BusLogic VL-Bus SCSI adapter.
I have heard that there is no driver for this board, although one is in the
works. Do any of you know of a driver that will work with this board (whether
intended or not)?
--
Robert Seymour rseymour@reed.edu
NeXTSTEP developer, Metaresearch Inc. rseymour@metaresearch.com
Artificial Life Project (NeXTmail Accepted at Both)
Philosophy & Economics, Reed College Portland, Oregon
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Video frame grabber for NS486
Date: 18 Oct 1993 18:49:47 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Message-ID: <29uogb$5c6@scratchy.reed.edu>
References: <29r89f$ahb@scratchy.reed.edu>
In article <29r89f$ahb@scratchy.reed.edu> rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
writes:
> In article <CEzt4q.4Dx@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> optadm7@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
> (J.Cassidy - Optometry) writes:
> > I have yet to find a vendor for frame grabbers for NeXTSTEP
> > on the Intel platform. This is very frustrating, as to
> > do our image analysis, we must grab the video information
> > on DOS based machines, then transfer that information to
> > NeXTSTEP.
> >
> > If anyone has any leads on this kind of hardware, or even
> > better if a hardware vendor is reading this group, I would
> > appreciate a phone number.
>
> We just recieved a fully loaded intel system that I will be setting up on
> Monday. It includes Video Spigot for motion video input into NeXTTIME movie
> format, so I can let you know how it works when it is up and running if you'd
> like (drop me email [at rseymour@reed.edu], I can post a summary to the group
> if there is enough interest).
>
> Metaresearch (another place where I work) is considered building a card for
> video and audio input on NS/I systems. You can drop me email at Metaresearch
> (rseymour@metaresearch.com or info@metaresearch.com) if you want to hear more
> or have suggestions.
I have recieved a number of replies, so I'll post a summary when the system is
up and running (at the moment we seem to have an unsupported SCSI adapter). It
would not be appropriate for me to comment on the workings of or my experiences
with NeXTTIME, so please do not ask.
If you have questions on Video Spigot, or other aspects of video
capture/output, I will answer as best I can (I work for the maker of Digital
Eye and Color Digital Eye [who are considering an NS/I board as mentioned
above], so I know a thing or two about this). I'm sorry if I lead anyone to
believe that I would comment on NeXTTIME.
--
Robert Seymour rseymour@reed.edu
NeXTSTEP Developer, Metaresearch Inc. rseymour@metaresearch.com
Artificial Life Project (NeXTmail Accepted at Both)
Philosophy & Economics, Reed College Portland, Oregon
From: ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu (S. V. Ramanan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cant get 1034x768 color on Gateway
Date: 18 Oct 1993 18:49:51 GMT
Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29uogf$rgv@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
References: <29mmu5$i70@rosie.next.com>
Keywords: Gateway, ATI XLR
In response to my query about the ATI XLR card on a Gateway DX2/66
not supporting any 16 bit color modes greater than 800 x 600, though
upto 1024 x 832 in 8-bit grayscale,
In article <29mmu5$i70@rosie.next.com> Mike_Paquette@next.com writes:
> The ATI driver limits 16 bit color to 800 x 600 if it detects certain
> low-end DAC chips, such as the Bt481 and ATT20C491. These DACs have a
munch..
> Operation may also be restricted to 800 x 600 16 bit color resolution if
>only 1 Mb of frame buffer memory is detected on a board. In this case, 8
> bit gray scale modes up to 1120 x 832 may work, as these all require 1
Mb
> or less frame buffer memory.
The ATI XLR card (which now comes as standard on Gateways) has
a ATI 68875 DAC. I wonder if this is also a low-end DAC chip. It also
comes with 2 Mb of memory in its standard configuration.
If this card cannot indeed support 16 bit color at resolutions
greater than 800 x 600, i would like very much to know. As gateway
supplies these cards as default, i might be better off returning the
system and going with a true Nextstep-system vendor.
Tnx for any and all responses,
ramanan
Email: ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu (ramanan@129.49.110.105)
From: js@balu (Juergen Sell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: FYI: Fuses in Printer
Date: 18 Oct 1993 19:01:16 GMT
Organization: ICEM Systems
Message-ID: <29up5s$263@balu.hnv.icem.de>
Hello,
I would like to share what I found out about fuses in your beloved NeXT-Laser-Printer.
There have been numerous rumors about no fuses etc, even by NeXT-support-people. For those of you who feel up to rescuing your printer yourself or don't have the money for official support
this info is intended as encouragement.
As usual, this info comes with absolutely no warranty, use on your own risk,
don't blame me, don't flame me etc.
Also I do not know if this info is true for all NeXT-Laser-Printers.
Good news first : There's at least two fuses in your printer.
Bad news : it's a long way to get there (one's even soldered in its fittings).
Fuse number one ( the easy one) :
This fuse is supposed to be highly suspicious in case of interface-problems, since it seems to secure the power-supply for the NeXT-stuff.
Remove toner-cartridge,
turn printerupside-down,
remove bottom of casing ( lots of screws all way round the sheet),
find the small electronics which holds NeXT's interface (it is the same part which holds
the connector for the NeXT-Printer-cable to fit in),
remove this part out of its connector - the fuse is on its topside.
Fuse number two :
Remove toner-cartridge again,
remove two black fittings on inside of black top cover-hood (make sure the cartridge holder does not crash into the depths of your printer; laser inside!),
remove one screw in the middle of same inside of black top cover,
remove black top cover,
remove all the screws holding the black casing, running all around the printer
(this may require to remove further parts, depending on your skills and your equipment. There's two screws behind the backside-cover, where the paper is supposed to come out. also, there's at least two screws into the bottom from the inside. If you cannot get at these screws for the cover is in the way, remove the black sheet at the backside of your printer, over the paper-outlet. It's fixed by two screws and inhibits further opening of the cover - forces stop at about 45 degrees.)
Lift the cover straight up. It may not go all the way, then you have to use some finesse; try pressing the black casing a bit in all directions - but don't brake it.
Remove the black sheet on left of fan - one screw,
remove two screws fixing fan in its position - don't let it drop, there's a cable on its back.
Find a fuse behind the fan (I found it was soldered into its fittings, good luck to you).
Unidentified object :
Yes, I found one, though not flying by any means.
In the far left corner (consider NeXT-logo side to be front) there is something within the power-supply with "10A" printed beside. It has two cables attached to it. May be a bi-metal thermo switch to prevent overheating - I plain do not know.
And the million dollar question? No, all fuses were intact, the printer is not running again.
--
_ _ Juergen Sell E-Mail juergen.sell@icem.de
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Subject: Re: Cant get 1034x768 color on Gateway
Message-ID: <1993Oct18.211326.28531@news.yale.edu>
Keywords: Gateway, ATI XLR
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
References: <29mmu5$i70@rosie.next.com> <29uogf$rgv@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 21:13:26 GMT
In article <29uogf$rgv@max.physics.sunysb.edu> ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu (S. V. Ramanan) writes:
>In response to my query about the ATI XLR card on a Gateway DX2/66
>not supporting any 16 bit color modes greater than 800 x 600, though
>upto 1024 x 832 in 8-bit grayscale,
>
>The ATI XLR card (which now comes as standard on Gateways) has
>a ATI 68875 DAC. I wonder if this is also a low-end DAC chip. It also
>comes with 2 Mb of memory in its standard configuration.
>
No, the 68875 is one of the two "high-end" RAMDACs, the other being the TI
34075.
Jon
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Do most black printers choke on envelopes frequently?
Message-ID: <CF44Do.2v8@sounds.wa.com>
Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <savitt.749848572@unixg.ubc.ca>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 21:44:12 GMT
Savitt Steve writes
| I have always had problems printing envelopes.
| Some of the stationary that I like to use is,
| I think, a little to thick for my black printer.
| I find that if I rub over it with a pencil, for
| instance, it is more likely to feed properly.
| (I haven't tried pushing, but I will.)
| A couple of months ago I bought some expensive
| "made for laser printer" envelopes. They feed
| fine, but they come out terribly wrinkled--much
| worse than less expensive envelopes.
I've had good luck "rolling" the envelope over the edge of my desk. I guess
this is similar to rubbing over it with a pencil, but I end up with the leading
edge of the envelope curved down. I pinch the envelope between my palm and the
edge of the table while pulling it through.
At first, I tried pushing the envelope into the feeder firmly, which got me
further than usual, but the envelope often got jammed inside. I assumed the
edges of the envelope were getting caught in the mechanics, so I figured that
giving a curve to the leading edge would help.
This has always worked for me, but it could just be the same effect as using a
pencil.
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ALR box prices
Message-ID: <1993Oct19.012652.11196@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
Date: 19 Oct 93 01:26:52 GMT
Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu
Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci.
Hi. Could someone with an ALR Pentium box which is decked out for
NeXTSTEP please email me the price you paid? Somebody in the MCS
department apparently wants to know how much such a thing would
cost.
Also, has there been any word on the Ambra Pentium machines? Will
they run NeXTSTEP?
Thanks.
--
Jonathan W. Hendry Inexpensive NeXTSTEP Consulting
tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critcal" Apps
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 19 Oct 1993 00:34:34 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <29vqoo$slo@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
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Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: burns@sparc4.cs.uiuc.edu (Edward John Burns)
Subject: Summary of Packet Sniffer Responses
Message-ID: <CF4qA9.56o@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu>
Sender: news@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 05:37:20 GMT
Thanks to all who responded to my request for information on network
related kernal servers and their packet sniffing applications. Here
is a summary of the generous and helpful responses I received:
Don McGregor (mcgredo@crl.com) pointed me to Chase Turner, who had
done some work with this in the past.
Michael Shaler (mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com) pointed me to cs.orst.
Alexander Konstantinou (akonstan@math.macalstr.edu) warned me of a
hardware bug that gets triggered when one puts the NeXT in promiscuous
mode. (I haven't tried, so as far as I'm concerned I don't know if
this is true or not)
Tim Pugh (tpugh@orst.edu) again pointed to Chase Turner and Cory
Jones, chase@marble.com and jonesc@tsunami.intel.com respectively.
Chase himself mailed me and told of his and Cory's non-disclosure
agreement with NeXT about their packet sniffer project. He then
pointed me to a very nice and illustrative package called eni,
available by anonymous ftp at:
Host binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Location: /pub/next
DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Feb 23 1993 eni
Once again, thanks for the replies and I hope this summary is somewhat
helpful.
Ed
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dan@nxsci173a.mrs.umn.edu (Dan Johnson)
Subject: Floppy drives (which work)
Message-ID: <DAN.93Oct19013045@nxsci173a.mrs.umn.edu>
Sender: news@cda.mrs.umn.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: I sell snails and something else to dead widows
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 07:30:45 GMT
Hullo. Can anyone tell me if a bare-bones 69$ Toshiba 2.88Mb floppy
drive will work in my cube? I imagine there might be a problem with a
lack of automatic ejecting abilities---anything else? (and are there
any available [in Computer Shopper] that *will* work nicely?)
Thanks
--Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca
Subject: price breakthru 14.4k modem for $99
Message-ID: <1993Oct19.062159.9262@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Keywords: modem
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 06:21:59 GMT
This is old news in the Mac world, but after all it is a modem
and ought work on a NeXt as well ac Macs and PCs. Any one tried yet?
There will probably now be a flurry of usenet activity...
(Please take the time to search in comp.sys.mac.comm first)
This is part of a post from comp.sys.mac.comm:
-----------
>From: jorn@Notwerk.mcs.com (Jorn Barger)>Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
>Subject: Free modem?? $99 modem! FAQ (Was: $99 linelink modem ordering info)
>Date: 14 Oct 1993 20:53:05 -0500
>Here's a synopsis of what people have been saying about the MacWarehouse
>price breakthru 14.4k modem for $99.
>
..
>Where to get it:
>The $99 LineLink 144e fax modem (available from MacWarehouse, tel.
>800-255-6227, as part number BND 0249 for $99 plus $3 shipping, external
>type, suitable for Macintosh, complete with all cables and power supply)...
>There is no FaxFACTS number for the modem. You probably need to FAX their
>order line 1-908-905-9279 for more information
>
>Availability:
>The manufacturer told me they ship modems to MacWarehouse every day.
..
>Specs:
>Data Speeds
> 300 bps/CCITT v.21 and Bell <? smudged>
> 1200 bps/CCITT v.22 and Bell <? smudged>
> 3400 bps/CCITT v.22bis
> 9600 bps/CCITT v.32
> 14,400 bps/CCITT v.32bis
>Data Compression
> CCITT v.42bis
> MNP-5 for 3:1
>Error Correction
> CCITT v.42 (LAP-M)
> MNP-4
>Operation
> Full or half duplex
>Dialing
> Rotary or touch-tone compatible
><?smudge> Commands
> Hayes AT commands set
>Elsewhere on the fax it says "v.42bis and v.42 also automatically include
>MNP levels 1-5 for backward compatibility with the installed base of MNP
modems."
----------
--
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Computing/Networking Phone : (403) 492-8226
Department of Physics email : jmack@phys.ualberta.ca
University of Alberta uucp : uofaphys!jmack iskye!jmack
Edmonton, Canada T6G 2N5 bitnet: jmack@triumfcl jsm1@ualtamts
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: powhwee@ncb.gov.sg (Tan Pow Hwee)
Subject: NSFIP Installation help needed
Message-ID: <1993Oct19.072002.6508@iti.gov.sg>
Sender: news@iti.gov.sg (News Admin)
Organization: National Computer Board, Singapore
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 07:20:02 GMT
Howdy,
We are trying to install NSFIP 3.1 on an Intel machine and is encountering
a problem. Our machine is a 486/66MHz machine with AMI BIOS, IDE hard drive
(~400MB), Adaptec 1542B, Sony CDROM CDU-541, 16 MB RAM, and Tseng ET4000AX
video card.
Initially the floppy booted but is unable to recognized our CDROM Drive
attached at SCSI 0. So we change SCSI ID to 6. For this settings,
the CDROM Drive is recognized and registered. However, the system 'hangs'
(the floppy drive keep spinning but nothing proceed) while the
IDE drive is being recognized:
.
.
Registering: sg3 at sc0
Resetting SCSI Bus...
Registering: hc0
IDE Drive 0 using MultiSector Mode
Registering: hd0
Registering: hd0a
< nothing happen after this except floppy spinning >
Please *HELP*! Thanks!
ph
PS: The preceding log is as follow, if this helps explain situation:
Registering: PCkeyboard 0
Registering: PCPointer 0
PS2 keyboard/HandleAck: Unexpected ACK from keyboard
Adaptec controller card at irq 11
Resetting SCSI Bus..
Registering: sc0
sd0: SONY CD-ROM CDU-541 2.69
Registering: sd0 at target 2 LUN 0 at sc0
Registering: sd0a
sd0: Device block size: 2048 bytes
sd0: Device capacity: 308 MB
sd0: Disk label = NEXTSTEP_3.1
Registering: sg0 at sc0
Registering: sg1 at sc0
Registering: sg2 at sc0
Registering: sg3 at sc0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: Best i486 config dream?
Message-ID: <1993Oct19.125639.335@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 12:56:39 GMT
What I'd like:
Portable with docking station
Docking station has good color, portable may be grayscale
32MB RAM and extendible
Portable can run NS independently with internal HD of >200MB
SCSI on docking station with access to rest of system (including
developer). Total available HD minimum 1G
Reasonably affordable
Fast machine (bus,graphics etc).
Run NEXTSTEP, of course
Run DOS/Windows(OS2?) too
Making a system setup on 2 HD's that runs either a normal system (1hd) or a
developer system (when 2nd HD is available) is possible, I guess. You just need
a lot of symbolic links that point nowhere when the second HD isn't there and
it is probably a lot of work to set up.
The overview of developer systems in NeXTWORLD was rather disappointing. The
systems with 486/DX2-66 do not really outperform the original Turbo system.
(Well, we all knew that the original hardware was not that bad....)
Anyway, is such a system as described above available? And how much does it
cost at this time?
--
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Graphics card and monitor for NeXTStep and Linux ?
Message-ID: <1993Oct19.095548.6749@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
From: mohan@tulip (Mohan Pakkurti)
Date: 19 Oct 93 09:55:47 EST
Hello:
I would like to know what is the highest performance graphics card supported
by both NeXT Step and Linux (X11).
By performance I mean resolution and graphics speed and number of colors.
Thanks for any info you can give me. :)
--mohan
+ Mohanakrishna Pakkurti Amateur Radio Callsign: KB8PIP/AG +
+ HOME: 2711 West Central Avenue, Apt B-10, Toledo,OH 43606. +
+ Phone:(419)536-9073 FAX: (419)537-2915 e-mail:mohan@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu +
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From: merz@id.ips.ethz.ch (Andreas Merz)
Subject: Infos, Docus, etc. for Next Hardware
Message-ID: <CF5KsA.JA8@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 16:36:07 GMT
Hello!
I am looking for Infos, Docus, files, etc, that describe the hardware
of the 030 and 040 NeXT boards. I need the informations to write a
kernel for teaching purposes and for research.
If you have or know something, please reply.
best regards!
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From: f91el@efd.lth.se (Erik Lindahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on IBM Thinkpad 750C
Date: 19 Oct 1993 17:11:09 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Message-ID: <2a173d$kql@nic.lth.se>
Subject:
Summary:
Expires:
Sender:
Followup-To:
Distribution: Distribution:
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Keywords:
I'm thinking of putting NeXTStep on a Thinkpad 750. Is there anyone who
has experience of this on the group?
It's got an intel486SL-33, and with 12MB RAM It should work, shouldn't it?
Now, for the tricky part:
I know that this far, NeXTStep only supports 2-bit grey on portables, due to
lacking local bus, etc.
I do though recall something about the Thinkpad having an S3 graphics chip
built-in. (True/False?)
Is there some way that to get colour to work through a driver for the S3-chip?
Or can we expect that in a not-to-far future (3.2?) NeXT will be able to
display colour (8 bit then..) on portable computers with active matrix screens?
I mean, what the heck, I find it a little hard to understand that they can
design an OS far better than anything else, and keep up with the front-end of
technology.. But it's impossible to write a device-driver for a TFT-screen?
I'm very familiar with the fact that it wouldn't at all be as fast as a desktop
system, but i find it a little hard to spend +1500 for an active colour screen
just to use it in B/W... :-)...
Thanks in advance,
Erik Lindahl
f91el@efd.lth.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: Will these modems work with NeXT ??? (Just for terminal access )
Message-ID: <1993Oct19.165803.3631@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 93 16:58:03 GMT
Hi, I have the opportunity to buy one of the following:
CARDINAL 1200 baud modem. Model MB1200EX
Zoom FX 9624 fax/modem
(with mac cables)
All I want to do is dial up my school and login as a terminal
to any of the unix machines that are available to me. I just
want to be able to do anything that I can do from a text only
terminal window just as if I was at school (but slower obviously)
Will these modems be able to work with the right configuration?
Can I use Kermit to do this?
Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gtoews@engr.uvic.ca (Greg Toews)
Subject: (repost) Can I use these modems with NeXT station (terminal access only)
Message-ID: <1993Oct19.172208.6285@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 93 17:22:08 GMT
I have the opportunity to buy the following:
ZOOM FX 9624 Fax/Modem with a mac cable
CARDINAL MB1200EX with a mac cable
All I want is terminal access to a unix machine. IE. I want
to be able to do anything I can do at school when I'm at a
text only terminal. Can I use these modems?? Will Kermit work??
Thanks
Greg
From: shukin@jester.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 040 Board inside an 030Cube
Date: 19 Oct 1993 19:06:53 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <2a1dsd$p1k@tribune.usask.ca>
I am wondering if it is possible to put an 040 Motherboard into an aging
030 cude case. As there any pitfalls? If so, what.
Thanks
ps Does Anyone know where the FAQ went? FTPable?
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Windows: It's not NeXT, but... | My opinions are just that!
(306) 933-6415 Phone | NeXTMail--> not yet: I am working on it.
Internet address: shukin%am.max.umc@siast.sk.ca OR shukin@jester.usask.ca
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From: dagerk@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jim Gerken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Will Gateway P5-60 run NSFIP?
Date: 19 Oct 1993 22:44:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Message-ID: <2a1qk8$ldt@hub.ucsb.edu>
Keywords: Gateway,Pentium,NSFIP
I was talking to my Gateway sales rep about the new Gateway P5-60
and he said that "...there should be no problem running NeXTStep
since NeXT did a lot of developing on our boxes...". Now, I've seen
all of the problems posted here about their 486 machines so I
take what he says with many grains of salt.
But, I'm still excited about the machine!
A 60Mhz Pentium,
PCI Bus,
16MB RAM, 525 MB IDE Hard Drive, 3.5" Floppy
ATI XLR 2MB on PCI bus (Basically new ATI GUP), 17" monitor
DOS, Windows, Choice of Application, Mouse (Wheee! :)
and only $3995!
This machine was (hopefully) made to run NSFIP.
Of course this machine is "due out next week"....
But has anybody out there seen it? Gotten NSFIP running on it?
Tried it and traded it in on a 1989 Yugo?
Opinions, rumors, thoughts on this machine?
Thanks,
Jim
Jim Gerken
UCLA School of Law
dagerk@law.ucla.edu
From: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu (jonathan nagler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Will Gateway P5-60 run NSFIP?
Date: 20 Oct 1993 00:17:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2a2038$glb@galaxy.ucr.edu>
References: <2a1qk8$ldt@hub.ucsb.edu>
Jim Gerken writes
> Of course this machine is "due out next week"....
I was told last week that their best guess on orders is shipment
in 7 weeks, and that they are _NOT_ shipping yet. So the
7 weeks number just must have some uncertainty to it.
But I'd love to know if it is worth waiting for.
jonathan nagler Internet: nagler@wat2213.ucr.edu;
assistant professor
department of political science Voice: 909 787-7258
university of california Fax: 909 787-3933
riverside, ca. 92521
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CD Player not working
Date: 20 Oct 1993 02:16:39 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2a2727$cc2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sorry if this has already been discussed before, but I am having trouble
getting CDPlayer.app to work on my NS/Intel system.
I have a DPT 2022 EISA SCSI controller with a Maxtor 1240S drive as SCSI
id 1 and a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive as SCSI id 2. When I put an audio
CD into the drive, CDPlayer launches, but it gives an incorrect total time
on the disc, and none of the buttons work, except eject and stop.
This happens as any user, including root. If anybody has any idea, please
drop me a note. Thanks!
Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: Ati Graphics Ultra Pro VLB Question
Message-ID: <glenCF6Aor.KE1@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 01:55:39 GMT
I have a Ati Ultra pro VLB card as was wondering how I could tell if it was
a rev 3 or rev 6 board.
-steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: atownley@cs.umr.edu (Andrew S. Townley)
Subject: Logitech C-Series Mouse problem
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 02:04:18 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University
Keywords: I dohnna undastahnd et.... :)
Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Administration)
Message-ID: <1993Oct20.020418.12819@umr.edu>
I am a little baffled by NeXTSTEP/486's behaviour regarding my mouse
When I first booted the machine and was in the process of configuring the thing, I could use my mouse just fine, but after it restarted, I can't use it. It says something like SerialMouse failed init and then goes on with booting. The stupid thing will give erro
r messages if you move it through the boot, but it doesn't recognize it as being there.
I seem to recall something about Logitech mice before, but I didn't have my new hardware then so I didn't pay any real attention to it. Any help would be great.
Thanks,
Andrew
atownley@cs.umr.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Subject: Black mono monitor becoming dimmer
Message-ID: <2CC48DA0.28068@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 20 Oct 93 01:00:16 GMT
My NeXTstation mono monitor is becoming dimmer and dimmer even with the
brightness set to maximum by using the brightness key on the keyboard
or in Preferences.
This is a two year old monitor with built-in mike. I am not sure if this
is the new one or the old one.
Is there an internal knob or the like inside the monitor that can
physically solve the problem.
Thanks.
Feng Liu
University of California, Irvine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cmaeda@cs.washington.edu (Chris Maeda)
Subject: Diamond Viper VLB driver
Message-ID: <1993Oct20.073721.28255@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 93 07:37:21 GMT
Does anyone know if there will be a driver for the Diamond Viper VLB
in 3.2? The reason I'm asking is that I ordered a gateway box with an
ATI card but they gave me a Viper instead. It's supposedly twice as
fast as the ATI Ultra in terms of "Winmarks" but it looks pretty
shitty under NS3.1.
From: zxmkx01@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Andreas Kerger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SoundBlaster running with NS486
Date: 20 Oct 93 09:13:45 GMT
Organization: InterNetNews at ZDV Uni-Tuebingen
Message-ID: <zxmkx01.751108425@studserv>
Hello,
does anybody have an idea wether there
will (or still does) exist a driver
for the SoundBlaster card running on
NS 3.1/2 for Intel?
Thank you for indormations.
Andreas
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7400 Tuebingen | Germany |
From: sholland@motown.ge.com (Scott Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which CDROM Drives work with 486 & NeXTStep?
Date: 20 Oct 1993 13:02:05 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta Corp, Moorestown NJ
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2a3csd$92b@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM>
Keywords: CDROM 486 Adaptec
Next is not very specific in NeXTAnswers about which CDROM drives
work with NeXTStep. It is clear that the Adaptec 1542C is the
preferred SCSI card. Which CDROM drives work with a 486 system
and an Adaptec 1542C controller? Do you need any special drivers
beyond what you get with NeXTStep? I have a Toshiba 3401B CDROM
drive, will this work?
Scott Holland
sholland@motown.ge.com
From: dougr@meaddata.com (Doug Ritter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: More Help Needed
Date: 20 Oct 1993 13:05:40 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Message-ID: <2a3d34$ie3@meaddata.meaddata.com>
Thanks to all who responded to my first request for help, I've gotten a bit
further with the NeXT system. I was able to interrupt the boot and set the
preferences to "verbose". I really expected to be able to find the problem
from there, but it didn't turn out that way.
So here are the symptoms:
The system completes the self-tests (very quickly - is it supposed to check
all the memory? Seems too fast) OK. It puts up a couple of messages about
the amount of memory (8MB) and then says "Using 16 buffers containing 0.12
megabytes of memory". Then it hangs
I would be inclined to think it's a memory problem, except that it says it
tests memory OK.
I still don't know much about the system. I do know that it's an '030 with
a 349 MB Maxtor drive and a monochrome monitor. It has a CD, but I don't
know if it's an MO or just a regular CD-ROM. I think the model number is
N-1000.
Again, any help will be greatly appreciated!
--
===============================================================================
Douglas N. Ritter Man, woman, child, ALL are up against the Wall
dougr@meaddata.com OF SCIENCE!
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From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problems installing NS on Gateway 2000
Message-ID: <4670@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 20 Oct 93 14:25:54 GMT
Sender: news+@pitt.edu
I am having problems installing nextstep on a Gateway 4DX2-66V with
the
newer version of the Micronics motherboard : early in the boot process
the message PCPointer probe: MouseInit failure appears, and there is
no mouse cursor or response when you get to the Next window asking for
selection of brand of PC. Also the keyboard is dead at this point. If
anyone has a fix for this problem please let me know (I already tried
the
suggested fix from Micronics: installing a jumper on W3).
Please respond to the group.
Tony
From: djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Ati Graphics Ultra Pro VLB Question
Date: 20 Oct 1993 15:38:07 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <2a3m0v$d0o@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <glenCF6Aor.KE1@netcom.com>
In article <glenCF6Aor.KE1@netcom.com> glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
writes:
> I have a Ati Ultra pro VLB card as was wondering how I could tell if it
was
> a rev 3 or rev 6 board.
[stuff deleted]
In comparing both boards, I see 2 main differences:
1. The MACH32 chip has a number 2106880006 (rev-6) and 003 for a (rev-3)
^^
2. The bios chip on a rev-6 has a copyright date of 1993, rev-3 1992.
Hope this helps.
-David Jepson-
Stratus Computer Inc.
#Include std.disclaimer
From: jhf@d0xs1.fnal.gov (John Featherly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: replacement motherboard for HiNT owners
Date: 20 Oct 1993 16:29:32 GMT
Organization: D0 Experiment
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2a3p1c$1t1@fnnews.fnal.gov>
References: <29uhvl$f33@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov>
Keywords: HiNT motherboard okay
In article <29uhvl$f33@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov>, melora@squid.jpl.nasa.gov (Melora E. Larson) writes:
|>I finally got NS/I running on my machine by replacing the original EISA
|>HiNT motherboard with an ISA board supplied by Futuretron Inc (address
FWIW, NS 3.1 is working just fine for me using a HiNT (GIT G486HVL) EISA/VLB
motherboard. I'm using a DPT 2022/95 EISA-SCSI card, and even though the
floppy interface isn't "officialy" supported, it works fine for me.
Now if only I could get a Diamond Viper video driver ...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Featherly jhf@d0xs1.fnal.gov
D-Zero Experiment at Fermi Lab (708) 840-4508
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From: giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SUN CD-ROM Drive won't work for install
Date: 20 Oct 1993 17:20:53 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2a3s1l$k8i@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Keywords: sun cd-rom
I posted a note a week back about install problems on a Lucky-Goldstar
WinNeXT. Thanks to the advice of several people, we found out it was due to
the SUN CD-ROM drive. As soon as we tried a different one, it worked.
This may have been discussed previously, but I thought I would post it for
anyone who might not know this (I didn't): SUN CD-ROM drives won't work for
installation of NeXTSTEP/Intel.
Michael Giddings
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: spe@bwi.mabp.ethz.ch
Subject: Compatibility ValuePoint Pentium P60/D
Message-ID: <CF7F21.J9p@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: spe@bwi.mabp.ethz.ch
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 16:27:36 GMT
Has anyone an idea if IBM's new ValuePoint-System P60/D
with PCI-bus is supported by NeXT and when and which
graphics adapters will be best.
___________________________________________________________
Adrian Specker
spe@bwi.mabp.ethz.ch
Swiss Federal Instiute of Technology, Zurich
____________________________________________________________
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Black mono monitor becoming dimmer
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 13:49:19 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <oglLcTO00WB98I0ZFo@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2CC48DA0.28068@news.service.uci.edu>
Okay:
I have adjusted several monitors with no problems, but make sure you
know what you are doing before opening anything. I expressly disclaim
responsibility for any ill results that may occur.
In order to adjust NeXT's MegaPixel display (called 'the monitor'
hereafter), you'll need (a) the NeXTtool (or a 3mm Allen wrench, I
believe), (b) a plastic adjustment tool (preferred) or a thin bladed
screwdriver, and
possibly (c) a Phillips-head screwdriver.
(NB: A similar procedure will work for color monitors, but you should
either know what you're doing or you'll probably be better off letting a
pro deal with it.)
Turn off the computer. Disconnect all cables to the monitor. Look at
the back of the monitor. There will be 4 screws there; use the NeXTtool
(or Allen wrench) to remove them. Remove the plastic back of the
monitor and put it out of your way.
Reconnect the cables and turn the computer back on. As the machine
powers up, examine the back of the monitor. You'll see a metallic box
(usually silver, though some are black) surrounding the monitor's
vitals. This protects you against the dangerous voltages inside, and
also insulates the monitor from electromagnetic noise. On the back of
this box are several holes for performing adjustments. There are two
focus controls (labelled 'focus' and 'dynamic focus'), a brightness
control (labelled 'brightness' or possibly 'black level') and several
other that adjust various things like screen size and position.
Depending on the exact placement of the controls on the circuit board of
your specific monitor, some of these controls may be difficult (or
impossible) to adjust from the back. If this is the case, I will
describe what's necessary below. Otherwise, adjust the appropriate
controls using either an adjustment tool or a screwdriver. Be warned
that a screwdriver probably will cause some interesting video effects
when it enters the case. Ignore this the best you can, or find a
plastic adjustment tool, which is what you *really* should be using
anyway. Using a flashlight will help you see into the hole so that you
can align the business end of the tool correctly.
Focus and position controls are fairly obvious. Adjust them slowly
until you're happy with the results. Don't muck with anything you don't
need to; the factory settings are usally pretty decent.
To correctly adjust the brightness, follow this procedure: Turn the
brightness of the monitor all the way down using the keyboard. Adjust
the brightness control on the back of the monitor until a barely
noticeable picture forms. Then turn the brightness down a little so
this picture disappears completely. Check that you can get adequete
brightness by using the keyboard to brighten the screen. If the display
isn't bright enough, adjust the brightness control on the rear of the
monitor high enough so that the monitor display is adequate. Note that
you won't be able to dim the screen completely from the keyboard...sorry.
Once you're finished, shut down the computer, take off the cables,
reattach the back of the monitor, and reconnect the cables. You're done.
If the control you need to adjust proves to be difficult, you may need
to enter the metal case. This happened on one monitor's focus control
and another's brightness.
WARNING: THE VOLTAGES INSIDE THE MONITOR'S CASE ARE VERY DANGEROUS,
EVEN WHEN THE MONITOR IS OFF. BE VERY CAREFUL, OR YOU CAN SERIOUSLY
INJURE OR EVEN KILL YOURSELF. Do not perform the next instructions
unless you are confident that you know what you are doing.
You'll have to power off the computer again, and disconnect the cables.
Looking at the monitor from the back, notice a section of metallic
shielding on the right side of the metal box that extends to the picture
tube. This is where the flyback tranformer is connected. It shields a
wire that is charged to about 25,000 V. DO NOT TOUCH THIS WIRE, IT CAN
SHOCK YOU THROUGH ITS INSULATION. Being very careful of this, remove
the metal case by unscrewing the Philip's head screws that hold the case
on. Don't touch the screws that hold the picture tube into the front of
the monitor's case.
Once you've gotten the metal box off, reconnect the cables. Figure out
what control you're going to adjust, and make sure that you can do so
without touching anything else inside. Again, *watch out* for the wire
that connects to the picture tube on the right side.
Power up the computer. I recommend that you use only one hand to make
the adjustment, and that your other hand be placed in your pocket (or
similar equivalent, if you're wearing clothes lacking pockets). This
precaution reduces the chances that you'll make a short circuit between
one hand, your heart, and the other hand-- a good idea. Perform the
necessary adjustment(s), being very careful not to touch anything
inside. Then shut down and reassemble the monitor, following the
directions given above.
Hopefully, these instructions will prove useful. Once again, please be
very careful...I don't want your death and/or injury on my conscience
(or a lawsuit, for that matter, either :-)
Later,
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Jeff Adams
Subject: WacomTablet on NEXTSTEP 3.1 (black)
Message-ID: <1993Oct20.184316.6914@wri.com>
Keywords: tablet, 3.1
Sender: news@wri.com ( )
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 18:43:16 GMT
Hello,
I have a Wacom Graphics Tablet which I have been using successfully on a
Mac and a NeXTStation Color running NEXTSTEP 3.0.
I recently tried this graphics tablet on the NeXT machine upgraded to
NEXTSTEP 3.1 and found that the tablet doesn't work any more.
(The cursor doesn't follow the pen). The tablet still works fine
on the Mac.
Could someone tell me if they are successfully using a Wacom Tablet
under NEXTSTEP 3.1 (black hardware) so that I know I just need to play
around with it some more.
The original Mac cable worked fine under NEXTSTEP 3.0, but is it
possible for NEXTSTEP 3.1 to require a better cable?
I checked the Release Notes for the InstallTablet app, and it says
there are no changes from 3.0 to 3.1....
Thanks for any insight someone might have.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Adams
jeffa@wri.com
Wolfram Research Inc.
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From: jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS on IBM Thinkpad 750C
Date: 20 Oct 1993 19:58:11 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2a458j$brl@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <2a173d$kql@nic.lth.se>
In article <2a173d$kql@nic.lth.se>, f91el@efd.lth.se (Erik Lindahl) writes:
|> Subject:
|> Summary:
|> Expires:
|> Sender:
|> Followup-To:
|> Distribution: Distribution:
|> Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
|> Keywords:
|>
|> I'm thinking of putting NeXTStep on a Thinkpad 750. Is there anyone who
|> has experience of this on the group?
|> It's got an intel486SL-33, and with 12MB RAM It should work, shouldn't it?
|>
< stuff deleted>
|>
|> Thanks in advance,
|>
|> Erik Lindahl
|> f91el@efd.lth.se
|>
When I asked the same question a while ago Ivo Welch sent me the following
message:
"No way. The IBM processor, even though it is an Intel 486SL, lacks the
floating point unit---a custom-choice by IBM."
Can any one comment on this...I've been out of the PC world to long/Not long
enough.
john.
PS. Appologies to all those who asked me for what info I received...I've been
trying to track down more info...Ivo's being the only informative response.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 15:00:44 CDT
From: Prasad Ravi <U21709@uicvm.uic.edu>
Message-ID: <93293.150044U21709@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 1542CF problems
Hello Folks,
I've noticed some postings recently on the 1542CF being
incompatible with NeXTSTEP - wondering if they got
resolved?? Is NeXT currently providing support for
this or will it be included in 3.2??
I have a IBM/VP system with a Apple CD300 and an Adaptec
1542CF SCSI controller and I can't get it to work either.
Thanks for any info.
Prasad Ravi.
pravi@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: No Sound from my Slab???
Message-ID: <1993Oct20.201025.26975@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 93 20:10:25 GMT
I can't get any sound out of my slab. I can't uncheck the mute box
in the preferences app with either the mouse or the key combination.
(it just goes back to being checked right away) This has been going
on for a week or so (the machine has been turned off and on several
times with no effect)
Any Ideas????
Thanks,
Greg
From: rad@spinoza.cse.ucla.edu (Robert Dennis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Cube DSP memory
Date: 20 Oct 1993 23:36:22 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2a4i1m$jn3@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Hi,
Does anyone know the specs on the DSP memory for a 040 cube?
There is a SIMM slot on the board which looks much like it would
accomodated Mac IIfx (64 pin)-type SIMMS. Anybody know about this?
Buddy
From: ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu (S. V. Ramanan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI CLX card on Gateways = Problem?
Date: 20 Oct 1993 23:13:27 GMT
Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics
Message-ID: <2a4gmn$55r@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
Keywords: CLX, Gateway
I had posted before about being unable to get the ATI card
on my Gateway to work in 16 bit color at resolutions
greater than 800x600 (e.g. wont work at 1024x768).
Email & research shows that the current default Gateway card is
an OEM card call the ATIVCLX. This has replaced the XLR card
that was shipped in the past. The difference seems to be that
the CLX uses DRAM rather than the VRAM used in the Pro and
the XLR. Perhaps this causes a problem with the Next video
drivers at high bandwidths.
If anyone has a CLX that they have got to work with Nextstep
at 1024x768 16 bit color, please email & i'll post a summary.
In the meantime, i would suggest that anyone buying from
Gateway ensure that they get a Pro (with the 2M and the new
RAMDAC upgrade), or if that's no longer available, try for
the XLR with VRAM.
Tnx to bau@cs.cornell.edu and jerry@calvin.medicine.nwu.edu
for help.
ramanan
Email: ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu
ramanan@129.49.110.105
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Subject: Re: NSFIP Installation help needed
Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com
Message-ID: <1993Oct19.165812.46192@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 16:58:12 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
References: <1993Oct19.072002.6508@iti.gov.sg>
Organization: IBM Rochester
In article <1993Oct19.072002.6508@iti.gov.sg>, powhwee@ncb.gov.sg (Tan Pow Hwee) writes:
|> Howdy,
|>
|> We are trying to install NSFIP 3.1 on an Intel machine and is encountering
|> a problem. Our machine is a 486/66MHz machine with AMI BIOS, IDE hard drive
|> (~400MB), Adaptec 1542B, Sony CDROM CDU-541, 16 MB RAM, and Tseng ET4000AX
|> video card.
|>
|> Initially the floppy booted but is unable to recognized our CDROM Drive
|> attached at SCSI 0. So we change SCSI ID to 6. For this settings,
|> the CDROM Drive is recognized and registered. However, the system 'hangs'
|> (the floppy drive keep spinning but nothing proceed) while the
|> IDE drive is being recognized:
|>
|> .
|> .
|> Registering: sg3 at sc0
|> Resetting SCSI Bus...
|> Registering: hc0
|> IDE Drive 0 using MultiSector Mode
|> Registering: hd0
|> Registering: hd0a
|>
|> < nothing happen after this except floppy spinning >
|>
|> Please *HELP*! Thanks!
|>
|> ph
|>
[.. log removed ..]
Hmmm, I've experienced something like this, and it turned out to be a not-quite-bad-but-still-good-enough-for-DOS-but-not-for-NeXTSTEP floppy controller cable.
I replaced the cable and the system then worked just fine.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson)
Subject: Re: Diamond Viper VLB driver
Message-ID: <CF80I8.AE8@news.otago.ac.nz>
Sender: usenet@news.otago.ac.nz (News stuff)
Organization: University of Otago
References: <1993Oct20.073721.28255@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 00:10:56 GMT
In article <1993Oct20.073721.28255@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
cmaeda@cs.washington.edu (Chris Maeda) writes:
>
> Does anyone know if there will be a driver for the Diamond Viper
VLB
> in 3.2? The reason I'm asking is that I ordered a gateway box with
an
> ATI card but they gave me a Viper instead. It's supposedly twice
as
> fast as the ATI Ultra in terms of "Winmarks" but it looks pretty
> shitty under NS3.1.
I talked to a contact at NeXT last week, who works on the SCSI side
of things. He said quite specifically - No driver, none in progress
:-(
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University of Otago, | alastair@farli.otago.ac.nz
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: HP ScanJet IIc Scanner
Message-ID: <1993Oct20.220419.2942@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 22:04:19 GMT
Doe sanyone know if this can be used with NEXTSTEP on any hardware, but
specifically white hardware?
Thanks
Wes
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From: shahir@asic.mtv.nec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 17" & 21" NEXT color monitor for sale
Message-ID: <1993Oct20.164645.75@asic.mtv.nec.com>
Date: 20 Oct 93 16:46:44 -0800
Organization: NEC Electronics, Inc.
Next computer color monitors for sale:
17" Megapixel color monitor for Next computer $600
21" Megapixel color monitor for Next computer $130
Above monitors are new and in the box
Please call
(408)238-6251 Voice After 7:00PM PST
(408)238-9495 Fax
or email: shahir@asic.mtv.nec.com
From: gary@esl.com (Gary Merrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Where to buy non-US power cables?
Date: 21 Oct 1993 01:03:10 GMT
Organization: ESL, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2a4n4e$hln@gatekeeper.esl.com>
Instead of continuing to use the Radio Shack power cable adaptors
every time we ship a system overseas, we would like to buy various
sets of "real" power cables designed for use in the UK, Europe, etc.
Anybody know where I can buy these?
---
===============================================================
| Gary Merrick System/Network Admin from Hell |
| ESL, Inc. gary@esl.com |
| Sunnyvale, CA |
| |
| "You can twist perceptions, reality won't budge." -N. Peart |
===============================================================
From: cko@wald.hnv.icem.de (Carsten Koch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTstation color Sound Box pinout.
Date: 20 Oct 1993 17:52:09 GMT
Organization: ICEM Systems GmbH
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2a3ts9INNbs@wald.hnv.icem.de>
A friend of mine (who has no access to this group) has bought a surplus
NeXTstation color without a sound box and the necessary leads. He cannot
afford to buy a new sound box right now, so he would like to run the machine
without it (or connect his Stereo System instead).
In order to do this, he obviously needs the pinout.
Can anybody help?
You can reply directly to him, his E-Mail address is
100270.3652@CompuServe.COM
Thanks.
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: NeXTstep Intel Trench Tale (Long!)
Date: 21 Oct 1993 01:33:12 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2a4oso$fmk@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
About 2 months ago, I had posted requesting info on putting together an Intel
system for NeXTstep. I received a lot of helpful replies, and I have
successfully built a great NeXTstep system. I would like to share my
experiences and hopefully help out some people. Please note that these are
just my experiences and opinions, and that all information may not be correct.
First, I tried buying systems directly through Epson and Dell. Epson would
only sell a complete system, fully loaded without any flexibility, for over
$5000. Dell was willing to break up their system, but their prices were
uncompetitive; for a DGX system with 50 Mhz 486 and JAWS graphics, 16 MB
memory, no hard drive or controller, no floppy, and no monitor, they wanted
over $3100.
I decided to take the plunge and buy a clone system and install each component
separately. Please note that this is NOT a trivial undertaking. No matter
how carefully you plan, you should be prepared for the worst. You can save
yourself a lot of problems by researching carefully into exactly what
components will definitely work with NeXTstep. I bought a copy of Computer
Shopper and subscribed to the misc.for-sale.computers newsgroup.
Here are the components you will need:
1. motherboard with CPU and cache memory
2. memory
3. hard disk controller
4. hard drive
5. video card
6. monitor
7. Floppy disk controller (may include serial/parallel ports)
8. Floppy disk drive
9. Serial/Parallel card
10. Computer case
11. keyboard
12. mouse
Not necessary but recommended:
13. CD-ROM drive
14. Sound board
Here are the specific components I bought. I will describe each in turn:
1. AMI Enterprise VESA/EISA motherboard with 256k cache
2. 32 MB 70NS 4x9 SIMM memory
3. DPT 2022/95 EISA SCSI controller
4. Maxtor 1240S 1.2 GB SCSI-II hard drive
5. STB Pegasus VL graphics card with 4MB VRAM, using the S3-928
6. Monitor ??
7. GSI Model 21 16 bit IDE/Floppy/Tape controller
8. Toshiba 2.88 MB floppy disk drive
9. 15550 UART 2 serial/1 parallel card
10. Mid-tower case with 250 watt power supply
11. IBM/Lexmark keyboard
12. Logitech PS/2 Mouse
13. Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM
14. Pro Audio Spectrum-16
1,2. Motherboard & memory:
Be very careful which motherboard you choose. NeXTstep/Intel will not work
with some makes. Make sure you know how many slots the board has, its
physical size, BIOS, and the type of memory it uses. You should be wary of
ultra-cheap motherboards from little-known companies in Taiwan. You get what
you pay for.
I ended up purchasing an AMI Enterprise motherboard populated with 32 MB of
memory, used, through the net. It is a full size motherboard with a 486DX2/66,
American made, with 256k cache, ZIF slot, and 16 SIMM slots arranged in 4
banks (just like the original cube) which accept standard 30 pin 70 NS 1x9 or
4x9 SIMMs. It even has a PS/2 style mouse port directly on the motherboard.
I highly recommend this motherboard. It has worked perfectly, the
documentation is clearly written, and everything is carefully marked.
NXBench gives performance figures of:
57034 dhrystones/s
36.21 VAX Mips
3,4. SCSI controller and hard drive:
Currently, NeXTstep only supports three SCSI controllers: Adaptec, BusLogic,
and DPT. SCSI is not required since IDE will work, but SCSI has the
advantages of speed and expendability (with up to 7 devices on the SCSI
chain). In addition, a SCSI CD-ROM is REQUIRED in order to install NeXTstep.
I bought the DPT 2022/95 controller new through the internet. This controller
replaces the DPT 2012 controller, and has options for daughterboards for disk
arrays and disk caching with up to 64 MB of memory. It actually uses a
Motorola 68000 on the board. Another new model, the 2122, is available which
uses a 68020, I believe, and which gives even faster performance when 3 or
more heavily used devices are connected on the bus. The 2022/95 includes a
built-in floppy interface; the 2022/90 does not. NeXTstep does not support
this built-in floppy controller. It is a 32 bit SCSI-2 controller and takes
full advantage of the EISA bus with bus mastering.
I bought the Maxtor 1240S SCSI-2 hard drive through the internet. It is a
small 3.5" drive with a speed of 6300 RPM and very good performance as
reported by several PC magazines. Together, the DPT controller and the Maxtor
drive have given excellent performance. Disk access is extremely fast and
reliable.
DrivePerformance.app gives figures of:
Write: 1.0
Read: 3.6 - 4.0
This is a relative index compared to the performance of a Maxtor P1-17 drive
on NeXT hardware. Note that read times may be spuriously high because of the
memory I have installed on the system (48 megs during testing).
I am very happy with the speed. I had problems with RDB exceptions when first
installing the system. It turns out that the DPT 2022 controller needs a ROM
upgrade to work with NeXTstep, and DPT tech support was able to send me the
chips through the mail (but only after promising to send the chips twice and
eventually shipping it overnight). I also was having intermittent problems
with errors for a couple of weeks, which actually corrupted my NeXTstep
partition and forced a clean rebuild. I suspected the SCSI cable and slowed
down SCSI transfers to a maximum of 5 MB/sec through the Eisa Configuration
Utility program, and I have not had any troubles since then. Performance
subjectively feels just as fast, and DrivePerformance gives similar figures
compared to before this change.
5,6. Video card and monitor:
NeXTstep currently supports a number of different local bus video cards with
the exception of the Diamond Viper. The ATI Ultra Pro VL is a popular choice,
but many people have commented on its lackluster performance. Using VESA
local bus for video is faster than EISA.
When looking for a video card, I was pointed to a new card from STB called the
Pegasus VL. It uses the S3-928 chip, BrookTree 485 RAMDAC, and comes with 4
MB VRAM. I contacted STB directly, and they said they had already given NeXT
an evaluation unit and support for the card should be available by October '93
(this was in September). I was assured that it was 100% compatible with
standard S3 drivers and SVGA drivers. I decided to buy it through mail order.
With the Pegasus installed, in NeXTstep, the updated S3 driver shows
resolutions up to 1280x1024 color. Selecting any resolution other than
800x600 color or 1024x768 grayscale produces a horizontally and vertically
unstable image, though the login panel can be vaguely seen. A NeXT tech
support person recently said that the Pegasus VL should be supported under
3.2 or soon after its release in early November. Under Windows, it works
perfectly at all resolutions up to 1280x1024 65K color and 1600x1200 in 256
color.
Here's what the Nov. '93 Windows Sources magazine says about the STB Pegasus:
"This VL-Bus board uses the S3 928 accelerator chip, and also contains 4 MB of
VRAM and a Brooktree RAMDAC. Multimedia text, graphics, and video simply
sizzled across the screen. In our graphics benchmark test, the Pegasus posted
a score of 44,414,105 at 800 by 600 with 65,000 colors and 52,809,061 at 1,024
by 768 with 256 colors. It was barely edged out by the Matrox board for top
honors (but only by about 4 percent) and blew by the hot Viper board by 17
percent."
In this same article, they reviewed the ALR Evolution/Pentium system with an
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro VL and gave figures of 13,952,904 at 800x600x65K and
22,389,222 at 1024x768x256 colors. The Gateway 2000 with the ATI GUP XLR had
a Winmark of 17,524,120 at 1024x768 256 colors. I hope NeXT provides a driver
to take full advantage of this card. Currently, running NXBench with the S3
drivers at 800x600 4096 color gives figures of:
line: 0.67298 (Index compared to a 68040 NeXT cube with 2 bit gray)
arc/bezier: 0.64987
fill: 0.51508
transform: 1.36327
composite: 0.53671
userpath: 1.44120
text: 0.49018
window: 0.26341
Overall: 0.74159
I don't have a final choice of monitor for my system. I need to sell my 21"
NeXT Megapixel first before buying a monitor. Currently, I am using a 15"
flat-screen monitor by Comtel (?), which gives very nice color. The picture
at 800x600 color looks great, though a little cramped. 800x600 on a 15"
monitor is definitely very usable for NeXTstep.
7,8. Floppy controller and drive:
Any generic floppy controller and 1.44 meg drives are supported under
NeXTstep. 1.2 meg 5.25" drives are not supported. There is no provision
for 2.88 meg drives or auto-eject.
I purchased a GSI model 21 hard/floppy controller and a Toshiba 2.88 meg drive
through the internet. The GSI controller has intelligent firmware that can be
set while booting the computer to handle up to 4 floppy drives, 2 IDE hard
drives, and 1 tape drive. Under DOS, it accepts 720k, 1.44 meg, and 2.88 meg
floppy disks. Under NeXTstep, it serves as a 1.44 meg drive. However,
putting a NeXTstep formatted 2.88 meg floppy into the drive brings up the
Initialize panel. If and when NeXT updates the floppy driver to support 2.88
meg floppies, this controller will hopefully be supported. The GSI is a 16
bit card, and reading and writing to the floppy disk subjectively feels faster
on both DOS and NeXTstep than when using another controller.
Configuring the GSI controller hardware was very difficult. The memory
addresses used by the GSI controller have to be at a lower address than the
DPT SCSI controller, and the 2.88 meg drive has to be attached to the
connector on the card that does NOT have media autosensing. Only then would
it work under NeXTstep. From talking to GSI tech support, this is a problem
with every unix system. It took me about two weeks to get this to work, and
I had to use a generic floppy controller in the meantime. If I were doing it
again, I would probably buy a cheap generic floppy disk and controller without
all the hassle.
9. Serial/Parallel card:
I bought a UART high-speed serial card with 2 serial and one parallel port
through the internet. UART (15550) serial cards will work reliably at higher
speeds, 19200 and faster. With the updated serial drivers from NeXT, it has
worked perfectly with my modem at 19200 baud as well as with a serial mouse.
10. Computer case:
I bought the computer case from computer shopper. I made sure I picked a case
that was designed for my full-size motherboard. I also looked for one that
allowed easy access to the inside, and the one I chose is an extra-wide
mid-tower with one side that hinges out. The front face-plate also pulls off
easily, and by removing 4 screws, the entire mount assembly for the disk
drives pulls out through the front for easy installation. It also has a
hinged door on the front to hide all the drive bays when not being used. I'm
very happy with it.
11. Keyboard:
I originally bought a Lexmark slim keyboard directly from Lexmark mail order.
The keyboard has a great feel to it, and a distinctive "click", but that's
personal preference. It was expensive, but I was happy with it until it broke
down after about 2 weeks during routine transportation. Lexmark was EXTREMELY
UNHELPFUL in exchanging the keyboard. With their policy and attitude, I would
never recommend anybody buying ANYTHING from Lexmark. Since then, I bought an
original IBM keyboard locally - and at much lower cost.
12. Mouse:
Although serial mice will work under NeXTstep, a bus mouse or PS/2 mouse gives
MUCH smoother performance. It is definitely worth the cost difference.
I bought a Logitech PS/2 style mouse from a local computer store. I connected
it directly to the mouse port on the AMI motherboard after drilling a hole in
the back of the case for access to the port (thanks, Chuck!). It works great,
and I personally like the feel of the Logitech mouse. I would also recommend
the new Microsoft mouse for its shape and feel, though it is expensive.
13. CD-ROM drive:
NeXTstep works with SCSI CD-ROM drives as well as wit IDE. Again, NeXTstep
can only be installed from a SCSI drive. Double speed drives give faster
transfer rates (300K/sec), and PhotoCD, multi-session drives are supported by
NeXTstep using the included PhotoAlbum program.
I bought a Toshiba 3401 double-speed SCSI CD-ROM through the internet. I
connected it to the DPT SCSI controller, and it works superbly with both
NeXTstep and DOS. It is front-mounting with a caddy, and is auto-eject. It
has a very conveniently located set of jumpers on the back of the drive for
changing the SCSI id. The only trouble I've had is in using audio CDs under
NeXTstep. Inserting an audio CD launches the CDPlayer program, but the track
display is incorrect, no music plays, and none of the buttons work except
"Stop" and "Eject". It works fine under DOS for audio CDs. I've tried
changing the SCSI ids without avail. Hard drive as id 0, CD-ROM as id 1
failed; HD as id 1, CD-ROM as id 2 failed; HD id 0, CD-ROM as id 6 failed;
HD id 1, CD-ROM as id 6 failed.
14. Sound board:
Currently, the only board supported under NeXTstep is the Pro Audio Spectrum
16. Under NeXTstep 3.2, there should be support for additional cards. Many
people have had great difficulty getting audio to work reliably under
NeXTstep.
I bought the ProAudio Spectrum-16 through the internet. I have been very
fortunate in that it has worked without any problems ever since initial
installation, using IRQ 5 DMA 7. The ProAudio Spectrum also has a mini
amplifier and speaker built in, so it even works when not connected to
external speakers. The sound quality under NeXTstep has been excellent.
I've been very happy with it.
Every internal CD-ROM has a custom cable for connecting the audio output to
the sound card. MediaVision sells the cables for each type of CD-ROM
separately through mail order. This cable routes the sound output from the
CD-ROM through the sound card out to the speakers. I bought this cable
directly through MediaVision.
Impressions:
I am very pleased with the NeXTstep system I put together. Every component
of the system was carefully selected and works well. It would have been very
difficult to have this system made through a company in Computer Shopper.
Believe me, I tried! Once NeXT has drivers available specifically for the
STB Pegasus, video should be faster under NeXTstep, at resolutions up to
1280x1024 12 bit color. 1600x1200 8 bit grayscale could also be very useful.
With 4 MB VRAM, it is capable of 1024x768 24 bit true color.
I have the 1.2 GB drive partitioned into 400 MB for DOS/Windows, 800 MB
NeXTstep. I use both on a daily basis.
Cost:
Now for the important information! I won't include the vendor names, and I
won't include tax and shipping, but just give general figures.
AMI Enterprise VESA/EISA with 32 MB RAM (used) $1850.00
DPT 2022/95 EISA SCSI controller 270.00
Maxtor 1240S 1.2 GB SCSI-II hard drive 1100.00
STB Pegasus VL graphics card with 4MB VRAM 650.00
15" Flat-Screen Comtel Monitor 415.00
GSI Model 21 16 bit IDE/Floppy/Tape controller 65.00
Toshiba 2.88 MB floppy disk drive 65.00
15550 UART 2 serial/1 parallel card 35.00
Mid-tower case with 250 watt power supply 110.00
IBM/Lexmark keyboard 70.00
Logitech PS/2 Mouse 50.00
Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM 400.00
Pro Audio Spectrum-16 125.00
Audio cable for Pro Audio Spectrum 10.00
NeXTstep 3.1 eval 300.00
--------
$5515.00 TOTAL
Add some money to upgrade to a 21" monitor. Subtract some to take out the
CD-ROM, sound card, high-end video card, 2.88 meg floppy, and 8 MB memory,
and you still have a very usable NeXTstep system at a great price.
Summary:
Overall, NeXTstep is an absolute joy to use on this hardware, and the people
at NeXT should be commended for their creation. If there is any justice in
the computer world, NeXTstep should succeed. It's that good! There is no
comparison with Windows; NeXTstep is a hundred times more fluid and intuitive.
I hope this will be helpful to some people planning on putting together their
own system. It's a rocky road, but the end result is well worth it. Believe
me! If you have any questions, you may contact me by e-mail at
mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu.
Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert)
Subject: Re: 17" & 21" NEXT color monitor for sale
Message-ID: <1993Oct21.014206.24337@icaen.uiowa.edu>
Sender: usenet@icaen.uiowa.edu (UseNet News daemon)
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
References: <1993Oct20.164645.75@asic.mtv.nec.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 01:42:06 GMT
shahir@asic.mtv.nec.com writes:
>Next computer color monitors for sale:
>17" Megapixel color monitor for Next computer $600
>21" Megapixel color monitor for Next computer $130
>Above monitors are new and in the box
Count me in for one of those $130 21" Megapixels. Will you give me a few
hundred dollars plus the 21" if I trade in my slightly used 17"? ;-)
--
Doug Siebert dsiebert@isca.uiowa.edu
"Had this been an actual emergency, we would have fled in terror, and you would
not have been informed." --Someone more clever than I
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wkwong@bode.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong)
Subject: Toshiba 3401b CD-drive (MAC version) will work?
Message-ID: <1993Oct21.025234.24651@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 02:52:34 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to get a used Toshiba 3401b CD-drive (MAC version), will it work
for my NeXT(Black)?
If you have one, would you send your comment to me?
Thanks in advance,
Andy
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From: nikos@cs.cornell.edu (Nikos P. Pitsianis)
Subject: QUESTION: $99 LineLink 144e fax modem and NeXT?
Message-ID: <1993Oct21.035250.23043@cs.cornell.edu>
Sender: news@cs.cornell.edu (USENET news user)
Organization: Cornell University, CS Dept., Ithaca, NY
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 03:52:50 GMT
The $99 LineLink 144e fax modem from MacWarehouse seems a good buy for
the Macintosh people.
Does it work with the NeXT hardware/software?
Thanks,
Nikos
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From: scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley)
Subject: Refresh rate at 1280 x 1024 x 8bit on Intel Professional/GX
Message-ID: <scratch.751174817@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca>
Summary: Will Professional/GX display adapter burn out at high refresh rate?
Keywords: Intel Professional GX Refresh ATI Ultra Pro Graphics
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 03:40:17 GMT
Hi. In NextAnswer #1122, the following is stated:
Intel GX/Professional 1024 x 768 1MB VRAM 800 x 600 1MB VRAM
with a TI 34075 RAMDAC 60, 72, or 76 Hz 60 Hz
1120 x 832 2MB VRAM 1024 x 768 2MB VRAM
60 or 68 Hz 60 or 76 Hz
1280 x 1024 2MB VRAM
*** 60 Hz
.
.
.
RAMDAC Capabilities
The TI34075 or ATI 68875 (B or C) RAMDAC is required to
support scanlines longer than 1024 pixels. The 1280 x 1024 60Hz
non-interlaced display format requires a 110 MHz dot clock.
Higher refresh rates are not supported, as they would exceed the
clock limits for the 68875B or TI34075-110 RAMDACs used in most
ATI Ultra Pro boards, resulting in thermal excursions beyond
maximum ratings and irreversible damage to the RAMDAC.
*****
However, Intel FaxBack documents #4163 and #4164 (phone #1-800-628-2283)
say that the Intel Professional/GX workstation has a max.
refresh rate of 74Hz at 1280x1024x8 bit planes.
So what gives here? Will the GX suffer irreversible damage at
74Hz? Will an updated driver support the GX at 70 and 74 Hz?
I definitely want to run at 1280x1024 but don't want a computer
with built-in graphics that only runs at 60Hz.
--
W. Craig Scratchley | internet: scratch@sce.carleton.ca
Dept. of Systems and Computer Engineering | phone: (613) 788-5740 (Dept.)
Carleton University | (613) 241-6952 (Home)
Ottawa, ON, CANADA K1S 5B6 | fax: (613) 788-5727 (Dept.)
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From: muyanja@hpbs2571.boi.hp.com (Bill Muyanja)
Subject: Cyrix, anyone ???
Sender: news@boi.hp.com (News Server Project)
Message-ID: <CF88Ds.GsK@boi.hp.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 03:01:04 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Lake Stevens, WA
(sorry if this is a FAQ, but i'm new to this group)
Can I run NS/FIP 3.1 using the Cyrix 486 clones that are 386 pin-
compatible? (I believe they are clock doublers with the generic name
Cyrix 486drx2)
Bill Muyanja
muyanja@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
<standard disclaimers>
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From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: Diamond Stealth Pro Drivers?
Message-ID: <glenCF8695.FoK@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 02:15:04 GMT
Do the S3 drivers on nextanswers support the Diamond Stealth Pro?
I'm looking for 1024x768 16bit color.. If this board works, does anyone have an opinion on it's performance?
-steve
From: bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov (Cary Bakker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Severely LONG REBOOTING TIME has me confused and frustrated !
Date: 20 Oct 1993 19:02:09 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <2a41vh$8ai@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
I am running a NeXT cube that has not had any serious problems as of yet.
What has been happening is when I reboot, the system takes an irregular
ammount of time, on the order of hours. One of the other users of the
cube tried to restart it last Sat. and it still wasn't up on the
following Monday! Just this morning, he powered it off completely
and started the process over. It started at 8:50 and finished
at 1:30 . ????
My question is : What exactly can cause this kind of behavior?
Recently, I had some errors concerning the floppy drive, but it hasn't
ever given me any problems and there haven't been any more errors related to
it. The following log is from the /usr/adm/messages file, and is of the
final power off/on from this morning...
I don't see anything abnormal about it, and even if there was, I probably
wouldn't see it because I am not an expert.
Any ideas will be appreciated and thank you in advance for your help,
Cary
--------------
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: rebooting Mach...
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach:
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: NeXT ROM Monitor 3.0 v70
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: NeXT Mach 3.1: Fri Apr 30 08:31:15 PDT 1993;
root(rcbuilder):mk-149.22.3.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: FPU version 0x41
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: physical memory = 32.00 megabytes.
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: available memory = 29.19 megabytes.
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: using 204 buffers containing 1.59 megabytes of
memory
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: fc0 at 0x2014100
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: Sony MPX-111N as fd0 at fc0 slave 0
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at
0x2014000
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: SEAGATE ST1480 Rev 5736 as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun
0
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: Disk Label: NeXT_2.2_Ext
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: Disk Capacity 406MB, Device Block 512 bytes
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg1 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg2 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg3 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: en0 at 0x2006000
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:01:06:f1
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB
Ethernet"
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: np0 at 0x200f000
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: sound0 at 0x200e000
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: root on sd0
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: WARNING: clock lost 4 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE
DATE!
Oct 20 13:31:54 cyclon reboot: Reboot complete
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cary A. Bakker | Music is the pleasure the human soul
C.S. Major | experiences from counting without
FLorida International University | being aware that is counting...
NeXT Programmer |
NOAA/AOML | -- Gottfried W. Leibniz
From: bakker@cyclon.aoml.erl.gov (Cary Bakker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: More on the long reboot problem....
Date: 20 Oct 1993 19:40:30 GMT
Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML
Message-ID: <2a447e$9eg@wave.aoml.erl.gov>
I found some more information that I can supply concerning the long
reboot time I have been experiencing and posted about recently.
Upon comparing the reboot messages of this machine (the one with the
problem) with those of the two other next cubes we have, one line is
missing in this one that is in both of the others. Also, I was
told that the machine hangs after the ".... IP protocol..." message.
This just happens to be the line immediately before the missing line.
Hmmm, could this have something to do with the problem?
Here are the messages.
section from my messages:
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:01:06:f1
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB
Ethernet"
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: np0 at 0x200f000
Oct 20 08:50:34 cyclon mach: sound0 at 0x200e000
section from messages of other two machines:
Oct 16 10:44:56 gust1 mach: en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:01:06:fb
Oct 16 10:44:56 gust1 mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type "10MB
Ethernet"
Oct 16 10:44:56 gust1 mach: dsp0 at 0x2008000
Oct 16 10:44:56 gust1 mach: np0 at 0x200f000
Notice that the line with "dsp0" is missing. Why would it be missing for
this machine? Could it have anything to do with the delay after the line
with "...IP.." ? Seems to me like it might, but I really don't know that
much about it.
Once again, thanks in advance for any help or ideas,
Cary
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cary A. Bakker | Music is the pleasure the human soul
C.S. Major | experiences from counting without
FLorida International University | being aware that is counting...
NeXT Programmer |
NOAA/AOML | -- Gottfried W. Leibniz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca (Dennis S. Breckenridge)
Subject: Re: SUN CD-ROM Drive won't work for install
Keywords: sun cd-rom
References: <2a3s1l$k8i@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Organization: "Alchemy Mindworks"
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 01:53:00 GMT
Message-ID: <CF858H.5D4@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>
giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) writes:
>I posted a note a week back about install problems on a Lucky-Goldstar
>WinNeXT. Thanks to the advice of several people, we found out it was due to
>the SUN CD-ROM drive. As soon as we tried a different one, it worked.
>This may have been discussed previously, but I thought I would post it for
>anyone who might not know this (I didn't): SUN CD-ROM drives won't work for
>installation of NeXTSTEP/Intel.
Well the opposite is true here. I have tested the Sun CD (Sony 8013) with
both the Adatec 1542B and 1542C without problems during install. Trying to
play audio CD's on it presented a whole new set of problems tho :-(
The mother boards used here are ASUS VL/ISA-486SV2 with DX2/66 cpu's and
256k of cache.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dennis Breckenridge Microsoft Windoze. Genetic throwback from the
dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca natural selection of UNIX.
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From: jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Subject: Re: NSFIP Installation help needed
Message-ID: <1993Oct21.012204.28074@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
References: <1993Oct19.072002.6508@iti.gov.sg> <1993Oct19.165812.46192@rchland.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 01:22:04 GMT
In article <1993Oct19.165812.46192@rchland.ibm.com> tgall@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall) writes:
>In article <1993Oct19.072002.6508@iti.gov.sg>, powhwee@ncb.gov.sg (Tan Pow Hwee) writes:
>|> Howdy,
>|>
>|> We are trying to install NSFIP 3.1 on an Intel machine and is encountering
>|> a problem. Our machine is a 486/66MHz machine with AMI BIOS, IDE hard drive
>|> (~400MB), Adaptec 1542B, Sony CDROM CDU-541, 16 MB RAM, and Tseng ET4000AX
>|> video card.
>|>
[munch]
>|>
>|> < nothing happen after this except floppy spinning >
>|>
>|> Please *HELP*! Thanks!
>
>Hmmm, I've experienced something like this, and it turned out to be a not-quite-bad-but-still-good-enough-for-DOS-but-not-for-NeXTSTEP floppy controller cable.
>
>I replaced the cable and the system then worked just fine.
>
Yeah, NS seems to be quite picky about the quality of the cable. I just
spent a frantic day and a half trying to find a replacement floppy cable
for my NS/i machine. It would boot up, but then hang everytime I tried to
copy anything to of from a floppy. I ended up going to Radio Shack and
very carefully making a new one, since no one around here had any.
--
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PO Box 3124 Yale Station | : : "Nuke the whales"
New Haven, CT 06520-3124 | ''':'':''' I hate PC...
jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu | -:--:- ...both types
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Which CDROM Drives work with 486 & NeXTStep?
In-Reply-To: sholland@motown.ge.com's message of 20 Oct 1993 13:02:05 GMT
To: sholland@motown.ge.com (Scott Holland)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Oct20145843@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2a3csd$92b@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 18:58:43 GMT
In article <2a3csd$92b@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM> sholland@motown.ge.com (Scott Holland) writes:
Next is not very specific in NeXTAnswers about which CDROM drives
work with NeXTStep. It is clear that the Adaptec 1542C is the
preferred SCSI card. Which CDROM drives work with a 486 system
and an Adaptec 1542C controller?
In principle any standard SCSI CD ROM drive should work as long as the
card works which is usually the snag.
Do you need any special drivers beyond what you get with NeXTStep?
No.
I have a Toshiba 3401B CDROM drive, will this work?
Yes, from personal experience.
Carl Edman
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From: chuck@benatong.com (Charles G. Bennett)
Subject: Epson Progression NX + ProAudio Spectrum 16 problems
Message-ID: <CF5FDr.6oC@BenaTong.com>
Sender: usenet@BenaTong.com
Organization: BenaTong Software.
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 14:39:26 GMT
Does anyone have an Epson Progression NX with working sound?
If so, would you please mail me your board settings?
I have an Adaptec 1542B, Intel Express Networking card.
It "almost" worked at 0x388, DMA 1, Int 10.. Sound played for awhile
then stopped working.
Thanks
Chuck
"I seem to be at the bottom and a very deep dark pit.
What does that remind me of? Ah,yes. Windows"
From: f91el@efd.lth.se (Erik Lindahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS on IBM Thinkpad 750C
Date: 21 Oct 1993 12:15:28 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2a5uh0$6g9@nic.lth.se>
References: <2a173d$kql@nic.lth.se> <2a458j$brl@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
In article <2a458j$brl@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu> jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) writes:
>
>In article <2a173d$kql@nic.lth.se>, f91el@efd.lth.se (Erik Lindahl) writes:
>|> Subject:
>|> Summary:
>|> Expires:
>|> Sender:
>|> Followup-To:
>|> Distribution: Distribution:
>|> Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
>|> Keywords:
>|>
>|> I'm thinking of putting NeXTStep on a Thinkpad 750. Is there anyone who
>|> has experience of this on the group?
>|> It's got an intel486SL-33, and with 12MB RAM It should work, shouldn't it?
>|>
> < stuff deleted>
>
>|>
>|> Thanks in advance,
>|>
>|> Erik Lindahl
>|> f91el@efd.lth.se
>|>
>
>When I asked the same question a while ago Ivo Welch sent me the following
>message:
>
>"No way. The IBM processor, even though it is an Intel 486SL, lacks the
>floating point unit---a custom-choice by IBM."
>
>Can any one comment on this...I've been out of the PC world to long/Not long
>enough.
>
The IBM TP350 has got a non-fp 486SL (called 486SL-NM on the net?)
According to the information posted by IBM on this group when the TP 750 series
was released, they incorporate "a true intel 486SL, with built-in mathematics
coprocessor"....
Of course it could be false .. :-) ... but if so I think they are looking for
big trouble..
>john.
>
>PS. Appologies to all those who asked me for what info I received...I've been
>trying to track down more info...Ivo's being the only informative response.
Erik
Erik Lindahl
f91el@efd.lth.se
From: dario@cns.nyu.edu (Dario Ringach, x3941)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Will a Sun Monitor work with my NeXTstation?
Date: 21 Oct 1993 14:01:49 GMT
Organization: Center for Neural Science, New York University.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2a64od$lme@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Will a Sun GDM-1955A15 color monitor work with my
NeXTstation color? Thanks!
---
Dario Ringach office: (212) 998-7614
Center for Neural Science home: (212) 727-9346
New York University e-mail: dario@cns.nyu.edu
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From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: Ati Ultra Pro rev 6
Message-ID: <glenCF93C0.A75@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 14:09:35 GMT
Since i discovered I had a rev 6 ATI board. will it be any faster then the rev 3? Also does anyone have a updated supported devices for 3.2?
-steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: trapac@netcom.com (Transpacific Container)
Subject: 3.2 Hardware compatability guide?
Message-ID: <trapacCF9B5C.M7G@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 16:58:24 GMT
Has anyone seen a preliminary 3.2 hardware compatibility guide? I would like to know what additional hardware support will be available as I need to purchasemachines now. If the 3.2 anouncement is correct, the list of supported hardwareshould be stable by now.
While not likely to be a great NEXTSTEP machine, I'm curious whether PS/2s and ThinkPads are supported. We are "true blue" for the most part with our hardwarepurchases.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Subject: Re: Refresh rate at 1280 x 1024 x 8bit on Intel Professional/GX
Message-ID: <1993Oct21.182425.20755@news.yale.edu>
Keywords: Intel Professional GX Refresh ATI Ultra Pro Graphics
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
References: <scratch.751174817@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 18:24:25 GMT
In article <scratch.751174817@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca> scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) writes:
>Hi. In NextAnswer #1122, the following is stated:
>
>Intel GX/Professional 1024 x 768 1MB VRAM 800 x 600 1MB VRAM
>with a TI 34075 RAMDAC 60, 72, or 76 Hz 60 Hz
>
> 1120 x 832 2MB VRAM 1024 x 768 2MB VRAM
> 60 or 68 Hz 60 or 76 Hz
>
> 1280 x 1024 2MB VRAM
>*** 60 Hz
>
>.
>.
>.
>
> RAMDAC Capabilities
> The TI34075 or ATI 68875 (B or C) RAMDAC is required to
>support scanlines longer than 1024 pixels. The 1280 x 1024 60Hz
>non-interlaced display format requires a 110 MHz dot clock.
>Higher refresh rates are not supported, as they would exceed the
>clock limits for the 68875B or TI34075-110 RAMDACs used in most
>ATI Ultra Pro boards, resulting in thermal excursions beyond
>maximum ratings and irreversible damage to the RAMDAC.
>
>*****
>
>However, Intel FaxBack documents #4163 and #4164 (phone #1-800-628-2283)
>say that the Intel Professional/GX workstation has a max.
>refresh rate of 74Hz at 1280x1024x8 bit planes.
>
>So what gives here? Will the GX suffer irreversible damage at
>74Hz? Will an updated driver support the GX at 70 and 74 Hz?
>
>I definitely want to run at 1280x1024 but don't want a computer
>with built-in graphics that only runs at 60Hz.
THE ATI GUP (and GX) both do 1280x1024x74Hz under windows with no trouble.
I've used that resolution and its works well (though I can't say it's a
pleasant thing to sit in front of all day, since after all, it's windows)
I imagine its just a driver thing
--
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PO Box 3124 Yale Station | : : "Nuke the whales"
New Haven, CT 06520-3124 | ''':'':''' I hate PC...
jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu | -:--:- ...both types
From: shahir@asic.mtv.nec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 17"&21" NEXT monitor price correction!
Message-ID: <1993Oct21.102900.79@asic.mtv.nec.com>
Date: 21 Oct 93 10:28:59 -0800
Organization: NEC Electronics, Inc.
SORRY I MIS-TYPED THE PRICE ON THE 21" IT SHOULD BE $1350 NOT $130!
Next computer color monitors for sale:
17" Megapixel color monitor for Next computer $600
21" Megapixel color monitor for Next computer $1350 <---
Above monitors are new and in the box
Please call
(408)238-6251 Voice After 7:00PM PST
(408)238-9495 Fax
or email: shahir@asic.mtv.nec.com
From: jpg1@stein2.u.washington.edu (Jeff Gardner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Newer Gateway 2000's not working with NextStep
Date: 21 Oct 1993 18:54:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <2a6lsm$93s@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <1993Sep30.085146.1@ids.net>
green@ids.net writes:
>I just got off the phone and they tell me that the Gateway 2000 486/66V (or any
>Gateway machine, for that matter) is no longer supported due to [to make a long
>story short] Gateways repeated modifying of motherboards...
>Andy, green@ids.net
What does this mean for those of us that already have a (slightly older)
Gateway 2000? I bought my 486/66V in July an have been running NS/I on
it without a glitch (because my motherboards still supports the PS/2 keyboard
and mouse). I hope that NeXT's (probably justifiable) decision to not
support the newer Gateways will not affect their support of the Gateway
systems already out there.
--Jeff Gardner
gardner@u.washington.edu
From: khare@cco.caltech.edu (Rohit Khare)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help: Sending PC video out to Sony projection system?
Date: 21 Oct 1993 18:48:19 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2a6lhj$qj3@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
The box I have has an ATI card with a VGA connector-out. How do I go from
that to the BNC RGBSync wiring used by a high-end multisync projection system?
Is it an expensive box? A cable converter? What happens if the BNC cables
have to be 50 feet long?
Rohit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: SCSI Tape won't work with NeXT Cube
Message-ID: <espritCF9Cp3.2KM@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 17:31:50 GMT
I have an 030 Cube that I am trying to get to work with my SCSI QIC tape.
The tape drive is off a Sony NEWS system (NWP-536), but it is actually
a Wangtek unit.
When I boot the NeXT, it recognizes the tape, but when I try to read from
the tape drive, the drive responds with an "ILLEGAL REQUEST". More
precisely, the READ command status is CHECK CONDITION and the Sense Key
is ILLEGAL REQUEST.
Any ideas? The tape drive works fine on my 386 running LynxOS.
--
----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds
esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer and
allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: jpg1@stein2.u.washington.edu (Jeff Gardner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP WANTED: 1+ GB Hard Disk Suggestion
Date: 21 Oct 1993 19:12:34 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <2a6mv2$9gg@news.u.washington.edu>
References: <29ftjj$jst@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Keywords: hard disk
phoebe@wam.umd.edu (Pi-Hui Phoebe Hsiang) writes:
>Dear netters,
>I am about to buy a 1GB to 1.7GB hard disk for my NeXTstation as an
>internal boot disk. I have two questions for you.
>1) Which of the following GB hard drives do you recommend?
> 1. Fujitus M2694ESA 1,080 MB $908 $0.84/per MB (SAG 800-989-3475)
> 2. Conner CP-31370 1,370 MB $969 $0.71/MB (MegaHaus 800-786-1191)
> 3. DEC DSP-3160 1,600 MB $1149 $0.72/MB (MegaHaus)
> 4. Micropolis M2217 1,700 MB $1299 $0.74/MB (MegaHaus)
> (All of them are 3.5", 5400 rpm, and ~10ms average access time. I do
> not consider Seagate ST11200N (1.05GB), Quantum ProDrive 1225
> (1.2GB), Micropolis 2112 (1.05GB), or Maxtor 1240S (1.24GB) for
> various reasons.)
>2) How many partitions do you suggest?
> 1. One big partition.
> 2. Two equal partitions.
> 3. One 2/3 partition and one 1/3 partition.
>Your help is highly appreciated. And, thanks in advance.
I have an Intel system with a CP-31370 drive, which has worked nearly
flawlessly. Twice during the 3 months I have had it, the drive has
had troubles during cold boot. It acts like it is spinning up, then there
is a loudish click of sorts (like a read/write head hitting its limit switch
ow something) and it seems to freeze there. Usually, if I turn the machine
off for a few minutes and then back on, everything is fine (if anyone else
reading this post knows what might be causing this, I welcome all info).
Connor's tech support isn't bad...not the best, but not bad. My drive
"inadvertantly" (so they said) did not come with documentation AT ALL.
However, when I called Connor, they have a recording which will tell you
the effects of all the jumper settings. If you need more help, then it
usually takes a good half hour to get through to a real person, but the
individual I talked to (once I got through to her) was very helpful
and knew what she was talking about. Overall, I'm very satisfied with
the drive.
Of course, I didn't really want to spring for anything larger than I
1.3GB at the time, and the only other ~1.2GB drive which was out at the
time was the Maxtor which was severly backordered.
As far as partitions, if I could I would just keep one big partition,
but that's just my personal preference. My drive has two partitions...
200MB for DOS and 1.1GB for NS/I.
--Jeff Gardner
gardner@astro.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
From: adh@alvin.ach.uams.edu (Alvis Harding Jr.)
Subject: Re: Large, high-resolution greyscale monito
Message-ID: <1993Oct21.135635.9946@engr.uark.edu>
Sender: netnews@engr.uark.edu (NetNews Administrator)
Organization: Arkansas Children's Hospital, Cardiac Imaging
References: <KENW.93Oct14210413@skyler.arc.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 13:56:35 GMT
I just received some info from a company called Image Systems. They are
based in MN. Their M21LMAX monitor has a horizontal sync rate of 48-108KHz
and a vertical sync rate of 60-80Hz with automatic syncing to the incoming
signal. Accepts ECL digital or analog signals. 21" monitor. Horizontal
resolution is 1024-2048 and vertical resolution is 768-1536. 65 footlamberts
nominal brightness. You can call them at (612) 935-1386.
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---- ----
----- -----
Alvis Harding Jr. Arkansas Children's Hospital
adh@george.ach.uams.edu Cardiac Imaging Center
"The nice thing about so many standards is that you can choose the one you
want"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale
From: thibault@whatnext.uwlax.edu (Henry Thibault)
Subject: NEXT PRINTER WANTED
Message-ID: <1993Oct21.184724.19437@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Distribution: USA
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 18:47:24 GMT
Anyone having a NeXT Postscript laser printer for sale please email me info
about the printer (model, price, condition, remaining warranty, shipping terms,
etc.) and how to get in touch with you (phone and snail mail address as well as
internet address).
Thanks.
Henry Thibault
thibault@csfac.uwlax.edu
From: cph@biostat.washington.edu (Chisheng Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SIMMs for my old NeXTstation
Date: 21 Oct 1993 19:51:59 GMT
Organization: Biostatistics, School of Public Health, Univ. of Wash.
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2a6p8v$a6n@news.u.washington.edu>
Hi,
I'm going to buy some SIMMs for my NeXTstation (purchased in 91/11).
The best price I can find for a 4x8-70ns, 4-MB SIMM is around $137.
Does anybody know a place with a better price for SIMMs with access
time between 70ns and 100ns? Thank you.
Chisheng Huang
cph@belgica.stat.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: NeXT Cube DSP memory
Message-ID: <CF9G9E.6D8@sounds.wa.com>
Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <2a4i1m$jn3@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 18:48:49 GMT
Robert Dennis writes
| Does anyone know the specs on the DSP memory for a 040 cube?
| There is a SIMM slot on the board which looks much like it would
| accomodated Mac IIfx (64 pin)-type SIMMS. Anybody know about this?
|
| Buddy
The DSP memory should be the same for all Black hardware. I doubt that it
accepts standard SIMMs, because there are some signals specific to the Motorola
56001 DSP chip. Anyway, here goes:
------- Start of forwarded message -------
Subject: Re: DSP SIMM doc
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 18:05:14 -0800
Julius,
This should be enough. Anyone familiar with the DSP should be able to do
it from this. The only trick that I forgot to pass onto the people at SF
state was the _DSPMEN enable pin. This is a pin for the PC chip that is
used to tristate the data bus. Bit 23 on the data bus must be pulled low
when the DSP leaves reset to load the correct boot strap mode.
enjoy,
Jon
pin signal description
1 DSPD(0) dsp data bit 0
2 DSPD(1) dsp data bit 1
3 gnd
4 vcc
5. DSPD(2) dsp data bit 2
6 DSPD(3) dsp data bit 3
7 DSPD(4) dsp data bit 4
8 DSPD(5) dsp data bit 5
9 gnd
10 vcc
11 DSPD(6) dsp data bit 6
12 DSPD(7) dsp data bit 7
13 DSPD(8) dsp data bit 8
14 DSPD(9) dsp data bit 9
15 gnd
16 vcc
17 DSPD(10) dsp data bit 10
18 DSPD(11) dsp data bit 11
19 DSPD(12) dsp data bit 12
20 DSPD(13) dsp data bit 13
21 gnd
22 vcc
23 DSPD(14) dsp data bit 14
24 DSPD(15) dsp data bit 15
25 DSPD(16) dsp data bit 16
26 DSPD(17) dsp data bit 17
27 gnd
28 vcc
29 DSPD(18) dsp data bit 18
30 DSPD(19) dsp data bit 19
31 DSPD(20) dsp data bit 20
32 DSPD(21) dsp data bit 21
33 gnd
34 vcc
35 DSPD(22) dsp data bit 22
36 DSPD(23) dsp data bit 23
37 DSPA(0) dsp address bit 0
38 DSPA(1) dsp address bit 1
39 DSPA(2) dsp address bit 2
40 DSPA(3) dsp address bit 3
41 gnd
42 _DSPDS data memory select
43 DSPA(4) dsp address bit 4
44 DSPA(5) dsp address bit 5
45 DSPA(6) dsp address bit 6
46 DSPA(7) dsp address bit 7
47 DSPA(8) dsp address bit 8
48 DSPA(9) dsp address bit 9
49 DSPA(10) dsp address bit 10
50 DSPA(11) dsp address bit 11
51 gnd
52 vcc
53 DSPA(12) dsp address bit 12
54 DSPA(13) dsp address bit 13
55 DSPA(14) dsp address bit 14
56 DSPA(15) dsp address bit 15
57 DSPXY X/_Y select
58 _DSPRD Read enable
59 _DSPWR Write enable
60 _DSPRMEN used to disable ram during power up
61 gnd
62 _DSPPS program memory select
63 DSPRAMDIS pull low on board to disable onboard sram, has
10k pullup
64 reserved
Begin forwarded message:
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 13:21:30 -0800
Subject: DSP SIMM doc
Why can't we whip up a little doc on this that will enable third party
developers? If it's a matter of priorities, I can do the initial pass
writing something up from the schematics and sending it around.
Thanks
Julius
-------- End of forwarded message --------
--
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NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
From: ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu (S. V. Ramanan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cant get 1034x768 color on Gateway
Date: 21 Oct 1993 20:05:40 GMT
Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics
Message-ID: <2a6q2k$gj9@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
Keywords: Gateway, XLR
I'm posting this for garrett@renaissance.Renaissance.COM (Garrett Rice)
who cant post news and who has emailed me the following.
This card doesn't work because it has 2MB of DRAM but only 1 MB of VRAM
(Video RAM). To get 1024X768 resolution, you need 2MB of VRAM.
Unfortunately, this card is NOT upgradeable and ATI is completely sold out
of the 2MB VRAM cards. I know this because I just bought and configured a
Gateway system and went through all these problems. I don't have News
posting ability, so feel free to repost this message.
Garrett Rice
_____________________________________
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <29uogf$rgv@max.physics.sunysb.edu> you
wrote:
:In response to my query about the ATI XLR card on a Gateway DX2/66
:not supporting any 16 bit color modes greater than 800 x 600, though
:upto 1024 x 832 in 8-bit grayscale,
:
:In article <29mmu5$i70@rosie.next.com> Mike_Paquette@next.com writes:
:> The ATI driver limits 16 bit color to 800 x 600 if it detects certain
:> low-end DAC chips, such as the Bt481 and ATT20C491. These DACs have a
:munch..
:> Operation may also be restricted to 800 x 600 16 bit color resolution
if
:>only 1 Mb of frame buffer memory is detected on a board. In this case,
8
:> bit gray scale modes up to 1120 x 832 may work, as these all require 1
:Mb
:> or less frame buffer memory.
:
:The ATI XLR card (which now comes as standard on Gateways) has
:a ATI 68875 DAC. I wonder if this is also a low-end DAC chip. It also
:comes with 2 Mb of memory in its standard configuration.
:
:If this card cannot indeed support 16 bit color at resolutions
:greater than 800 x 600, i would like very much to know. As gateway
:supplies these cards as default, i might be better off returning the
:system and going with a true Nextstep-system vendor.
:Tnx for any and all responses,
:ramanan
:
:Email: ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu (ramanan@129.49.110.105)
From: kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI Tape won't work with NeXT Cube
Date: 21 Oct 1993 21:22:32 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <2a6uio$b3o@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <espritCF9Cp3.2KM@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes:
>I have an 030 Cube that I am trying to get to work with my SCSI QIC tape.
>The tape drive is off a Sony NEWS system (NWP-536), but it is actually
>a Wangtek unit.
>When I boot the NeXT, it recognizes the tape, but when I try to read from
>the tape drive, the drive responds with an "ILLEGAL REQUEST". More
>precisely, the READ command status is CHECK CONDITION and the Sense Key
>is ILLEGAL REQUEST.
>Any ideas? The tape drive works fine on my 386 running LynxOS.
You have to set the tape driver to fixed blocksize.
main()
{
int blksize = 512;
int fd = open("/dev/rst0", O_RDWR);
ioctl(fd, MTIOCFIXBLK, &blksize );
close(fd);
}
I had the experience that I was able to read and write QIC150-Tapes
with this setting correctly, but failed to get more than 250 MB on
a 525 MB Tape (on an Wangtek 5525 ES). Try blksize = 1024 then.
See also: man st
There is a tool available which is called mtset and does the
ioctl described above. Look for scsitools.tar.gz at your favourite
archive.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck)
Subject: Need list of inexpensive low-end video for NS/I
Message-ID: <BEFIB40C@math.fu-berlin.de>
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 22:22:21 GMT
I need a list of inexpensive video cards (pref. VLB, though ISA might be
acceptable) capable of 1024x768x8-bit or 2-bit greyscale. By inexpensive
I mean $100-150 or less.
Does anyone know of any that work? Please reply by e-mail and I'll summarize.
Thanks.
--
Tim Buck "If I don't do anything I'm ashamed of, I won't
timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu have anything to worry about. Now, getting rid
rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu of the shame, that's the hard part."
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Newer Gateway 2000's not working with NextStep
Date: 21 Oct 1993 21:45:11 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <2a6vt7$qp3@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <2a6lsm$93s@news.u.washington.edu>
In article <2a6lsm$93s@news.u.washington.edu> jpg1@stein2.u.washington.edu
(Jeff Gardner) writes:
#green@ids.net writes:
#
#>I just got off the phone and they tell me that the Gateway 2000 486/66V
(or any
#>Gateway machine, for that matter) is no longer supported due to [to make a
long
#>story short] Gateways repeated modifying of motherboards...
#
#>Andy, green@ids.net
#
#
#What does this mean for those of us that already have a (slightly older)
#Gateway 2000? I bought my 486/66V in July an have been running NS/I on
#it without a glitch (because my motherboards still supports the PS/2
keyboard
#and mouse). I hope that NeXT's (probably justifiable) decision to not
#support the newer Gateways will not affect their support of the Gateway
#systems already out there.
#
# --Jeff Gardner
# gardner@u.washington.edu
Who did you talk with? My sources at NEXT don't agree with this statement.
Btw, we purchased 16 Gateway2000 4DX2-66V systems that were manufactured
10/6/93. We have been running NEXTSTEP on these machines with only one
problem: they changed the ATI XTR card and now it won't do 1024x768/16
color, but it will it in 8bit grey... (why not 8bit color???)
Other than that, the machines work just as they did in the past... Except,
make sure you disable the CPU and HD timeouts in the BIOS. You see, Gateway
now ships "Green" PCs and they will shut everything down after a certin
period of time. NS doesn't like it when the HD is off or the CPU is off :-)
--
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The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
From: joef@pandora.ucs.umass.edu (Joseph E. Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: BusLogic VL-Bus SCSI Driver?
Date: 22 Oct 1993 02:04:32 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <2a7f3g$4oc@nic.umass.edu>
References: <29uo9i$549@scratchy.reed.edu>
Robert Seymour (rseymour@reed.edu) wrote:
:I have a system I am trying to set up that has a BusLogic VL-Bus SCSI adapter.
: I have heard that there is no driver for this board, although one is in the
: intended or not)?
Well, many (all?) buslogic boards are compatible with the adaptec 1542 series
of SCSI controllers. I'm using the BusLogic 747S EISA board with NSI using
the 1542 drivers without problems.
Joe
From: joef@pandora.ucs.umass.edu (Joseph E. Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: price breakthru 14.4k modem for $99
Date: 22 Oct 1993 02:13:58 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <2a7fl6$4oc@nic.umass.edu>
References: <1993Oct19.062159.9262@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
jmack@skye.phys.ualberta.ca wrote:
: This is old news in the Mac world, but after all it is a modem
: and ought work on a NeXt as well ac Macs and PCs. Any one tried yet?
: This is part of a post from comp.sys.mac.comm:
: -----------
: >From: jorn@Notwerk.mcs.com (Jorn Barger)
: >Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
: >Subject: Free modem?? $99 modem! FAQ (Was: $99 linelink modem ordering info)
: >Specs:
: >Data Speeds
: > 300 bps/CCITT v.21 and Bell <? smudged>
: > 1200 bps/CCITT v.22 and Bell <? smudged>
: > 3400 bps/CCITT v.22bis
: > 9600 bps/CCITT v.32
: > 14,400 bps/CCITT v.32bis
: >Data Compression
: > CCITT v.42bis
: > MNP-5 for 3:1
: >Error Correction
: > CCITT v.42 (LAP-M)
: > MNP-4
: >Operation
: > Full or half duplex
: >Dialing
: > Rotary or touch-tone compatible
: ><?smudge> Commands
: > Hayes AT commands set
: >Elsewhere on the fax it says "v.42bis and v.42 also automatically include
: >MNP levels 1-5 for backward compatibility with the installed base of MNP
: modems."
I decided to test one of these guys out just for kicks...it seems to work.
I believe it only has a 90 day warranty however, and that makes me a little
nervous -- most modem makers offer at least a 5 year warranty nowadays. Modems
don't often break (no moving parts, eh?) but they can still be made with sub-
standard parts...
Anyway, like I said...it seems to work. I've use it on a Mac and a PC (under
dos, windows, OS/2, and NSI). I bet PC Warehouse also has it and might even
include a normal serial (not a mac cable)...
Joe Fitzgerald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Wanted - hardware description of black hardware
Message-ID: <espritCFA1LI.L3I@netcom.com>
Organization: /dev/null Software S.A.
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 02:29:41 GMT
Are there any books out there that give a hardware description of the
NeXT hardware (memory maps, interrupts and such)? Anyone know how closely
tied to the Mach OS the rest of the NeXTStep is?
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esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer and
allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: asc1002@Armstrong.EDU (-phillip bruce-)
Subject: Another cattywompus OD
Message-ID: <1993Oct22.040348.4195@Armstrong.EDU>
Organization: Armstrong State College, Savannah, GA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 04:03:48 GMT
Alright, I realize this horse gets flailed quite often, but I have always
managed to skip past most of the threads that go on...until now. It seems
that my trusty Canon optical has decided it doesn't like the disks. Every
time I try to put in an optical disk, the system freezes and the drive makes
occasional clicking noises. The best I can do is get back to the ROM monitor,
type "ej" (TWICE!! Once doesn't seem to work!) and then reboot the machine.
If I try to halt the machine from the NMI monitor, the reboot process fails
and I again have to break to the monitor and try to eject the disk. (By the
by, I do hear the drive speed up for a sec when the monitor screen first pops
up on an attempted reboot).
Any suggestions?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison)
Subject: Fast graphics hardware when??
Message-ID: <CF9yKD.BGu@nosloc.com>
Sender: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison)
Organization: Nosloc Software Technologies
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 01:24:13 GMT
Does anybody have some info/predictions on when we might see some fast
graphics hardware that runs for NS? I am looking on the order of an entry SGI
machine that has little or no supporting hardware versus a hardware card for a
PC/Pentium that with a driver could hardware assist many of the blitting and
possibly geometry under NeXTSTEP?????
Any information appreciated,
=derek
--
Derek Collison <---> derek@nosloc.com
Nosloc Software Technologies
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca (Dennis S. Breckenridge)
Subject: Re: Which CDROM Drives work with 486 & NeXTStep?
References: <2a3csd$92b@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM> <CEDMAN.93Oct20145843@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Organization: "Alchemy Mindworks"
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1993 17:20:05 GMT
Message-ID: <CF9C5I.LJ5@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> I have a Toshiba 3401B CDROM drive, will this work?
>Yes, from personal experience.
What do you call working? I have the Adatec 1542c and the Toshiba 3401 CD
and I can install software from it but I cannot play audio CD's (it just
ejects them) or browse a photo cd (again it just eject's them)
IS this a "feature" or do I really have a bug :-)
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dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca natural selection of UNIX.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rob@facl.mcgill.ca (Robert Macfarlane)
Subject: Grrrr... (new ATI card)
Message-ID: <rob-221093022304@stargazer.facl.mcgill.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 07:23:04 GMT
Just got my zippy new Gateway system... but no colour in high-res modes. I
see from serveral posts that other people have had the same problem.
Can somebody from NeXT fill us in on when, if ever, the drivers will be
updated to work with the DRAM-based ATI XLR cards?
Rob Macfarlane
Faculty of Arts Computer Lab
McGill University
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Reference Re: Laptops running NS3.2 user w/no problems?
Date: 22 Oct 1993 00:08:13 -0700
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Message-ID: <2a80st$93m@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
Hi,
I need to locate a listing of laptop models that run NS 3.2
with Insignia Solution's "Soft PC" and a built in modem that
I can plug into a local phone. Color is not important.
Batteries are not important as I don't mind plugging it into the wall.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Oh yea, it will be used exclusively for technical support via fax/modem.
Thanks,
maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: Best price on 1+ GB Hard Disks
Message-ID: <1993Oct22.102651.399@cs.ucla.edu>
Keywords: hard disk
Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
References: <29ftjj$jst@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <2a6mv2$9gg@news.u.washington.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 10:26:51 GMT
This is probably the wrong place to ask, but does anybody have any
recommendations on likely places to get the best price on the Maxtor 1240S
(1.24GB) or Seagate ST12550N (2.14GB) drives? I'll summarize if there is
interest.
Thanks,
- Trent Lange
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rpb@psy.ox.ac.uk (Ray Bellis)
Subject: Looking for NeXT/DEC Alpha compatible CD-ROM drive
Message-ID: <RPB.93Oct22133249@brain.psy.ox.ac.uk>
Organization: O.U. Dept. of Experimental Psychology
Date: 22 Oct 1993 12:32:49 GMT
Could someone please recommend a CD-ROM drive that will work
with both NeXTstations and DEC Alphas. I understand that
there may be problems because of the sector sizes required
by the relevant operating systems.
Thanks,
Ray.
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University of Oxford Tel: +44 865 271419
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From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Repeat Request: Anyone using an Ethernet Board with their Gateway DX2/66?
Date: 22 Oct 1993 13:47:44 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2a8oa0$3dd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
(essentially moved from CSNM)
Hi again,
I got NO positive responses from people using Ethernet boards with their
Gateway 2000 GJX30 DX2/66 machines.
Surely, if it were a problem, we all would have heard about it by now.
So, please, drop me a note telling me what board you're using with
your Gateway and whether you find it reliable.
Reliability can be expressed in units of RDPPD (RDP exceptions per day).
I'll summarize to the net.
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
---- NeXTmail always welcome ----
From: joef@pandora.ucs.umass.edu (Joseph E. Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Booting from HD
Date: 22 Oct 1993 13:48:29 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <2a8obd$7r2@nic.umass.edu>
A friend of mine is running into a problem...he wants his turbo to boot
from the hard drive (a 1 gig fujitsu I believe), but it keeps looking to
the CD at startup. How does one change this? I think he's got NS v3.0
Any help is appreciated...I would prefer mail to joef@nic.umass.edu
Thanks,
Joe Fitzgerald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rtyler@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (tyler richard s)
Subject: HP Vectra Performances?
Message-ID: <1993Oct22.151749.21015@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 15:17:49 GMT
Has anyone already tested performances of HP Vectra U or XM series
under NeXTStep? I would be happy if you could send me your impressions on
these computers. (configuration, video perf, cpu perf, hard drive perf...)
Thank you in advance.
----
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From: A4431GAB@AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UniVie.AC.AT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTstep/x86 on PCI-system ?
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 93 17:18:04 MEZ
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center (VUCC)
Message-ID: <16C6FF34D.A4431GAB@AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UniVie.AC.AT>
Does anybody has any experience with running NeXTstep/x86 on a PCI-system ?
According to NeXT-Answers, there shouldn't be a problem, but who knows ?
Additionally, I would be interested in any info on the ATI GUP as PCI-Card.
Anyone use it (not only on NeXTstep ??) ?
Thanks,
Roland (ulbert@nestroy.wu-wien.ac.at)
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From: scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley)
Subject: Re: Refresh rate at 1280 x 1024 x 8bit on Intel Professional/GX
Message-ID: <scratch.751305542@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca>
Keywords: Intel Professional GX Refresh ATI Ultra Pro Graphics
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <scratch.751174817@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca> <1993Oct21.182425.20755@news.yale.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 15:59:02 GMT
jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman) writes:
>In article <scratch.751174817@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca> scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) writes:
>>Hi. In NextAnswer #1122, the following is stated:
>>
>>Intel GX/Professional 1024
>>with a TI 34075 RAMDAC
>>
>> 1280 x 1024 2MB VRAM
>>*** 60 Hz
>>
>> RAMDAC Capabilities
>> The TI34075 or ATI 68875 (B or C) RAMDAC is required to
>>support scanlines longer than 1024 pixels. The 1280 x 1024 60Hz
>>non-interlaced display format requires a 110 MHz dot clock.
>>Higher refresh rates are not supported, as they would exceed the
>>clock limits for the 68875B or TI34075-110 RAMDACs used in most
>>ATI Ultra Pro boards, resulting in thermal excursions beyond
>>maximum ratings and irreversible damage to the RAMDAC.
>>
>>*****
>>
>>However, Intel FaxBack documents #4163 and #4164 (phone #1-800-628-2283)
>>say that the Intel Professional/GX workstation has a max.
>>refresh rate of 74Hz at 1280x1024x8 bit planes.
>>
>>So what gives here? Will the GX suffer irreversible damage at
>>74Hz? Will an updated driver support the GX at 70 and 74 Hz?
>>
>>I definitely want to run at 1280x1024 but don't want a computer
>>with built-in graphics that only runs at 60Hz.
>THE ATI GUP (and GX) both do 1280x1024x74Hz under windows with no trouble.
>I've used that resolution and its works well (though I can't say it's a
>pleasant thing to sit in front of all day, since after all, it's windows)
>I imagine its just a driver thing
You mean the driver can make a difference between irreversible
damage to the RAMDAC or not? I thought that if the hardware
can't handle it, then it can't handle it. I just wonder if a
typical ATI-card installation would overheat, but the GX is
designed to remove the heat.
Craig
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From: fineman@stein1.u.washington.edu (Twixt your toes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Installing NS486 - problems! help!!
Date: 22 Oct 1993 16:54:53 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <2a938t$rhm@news.u.washington.edu>
hey there netters -
I've just finished putting together a 486 to (attempt to) run
nextstep. This is what i'm working with:
486DX2-66
AMI BIOS
Dallas (i think?) chipset (i can check into that, if need be)
IDE architecture (i can check on the brand name, if need be)
Standard 101 clone keyboard
Chinon CDS-435 CD-ROM, with its own SCSI adapter,
CD-ROM set to SCSI ID 0 (it works fine w/ dos stuff)
Western Digital 340mb IDE drive
16 MB RAM
1 serial port (mouse set at 0x3f8, IRQ 4)
authentic microsoft mouse
1 3.5" HD FDD
Cirrus logic 5422 video card
Dell 17" monitor (hah - like it's paid for)
I've got both NeXTStep & the developer ver 3.1
here's what happens when i boot up off of the installation floppy
disk: (my comments in /* */)
/*... standard boot stuff*/
ISA Bus
Warning: Using internal backup device configuratoin tables
PCPointer Probe: MouseInit failure /* the mouse works fine w/ dos */
Registering: PCKeyboard0
Registering: PCPointer0
PS2Keyboard/HandleACK: Unexpected ACK from keyboard
Resetting SCSI Bus: /* pause...*/
Registering: hc0 /* system locks up - floppy
drive & hard disk spin
continuously */
---------------------
If anyone could offer any advice, PLEASE do so. I can look into the
details of the hardware, if that would help.
thanks,
dan
fineman@u.washington.edu
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Color Printer--Does paper option make a difference?
Message-ID: <Oct.22.13.38.51.1993.11065@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 22 Oct 93 17:38:51 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
There is an options panel under the print panel for the NCP that lets you select different paper types (plain, coated, transparency, Heavy Ink).
Is there any difference between the plain and coated paper option? I dont see any difference when I print the same thing on the same paper with the two different options. Also, since I use plain paper most of the time, is there a dwrite, or some way to make the plain paper option the default instead of the coated paper; Im tired of selecting plain paper EVERYtime I print.
Thanks for any help.
Later, John
From: fineman@stein1.u.washington.edu (Twixt your toes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS/i 3.1 installation problems...
Date: 22 Oct 1993 19:52:11 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <2a9dlb$1tl@news.u.washington.edu>
hey-yo all -
I've just finished putting together a 486 to (attempt to) run
nextstep. This is what i'm working with:
486DX2-66
AMI BIOS
Dallas (i think?) chipset (i can check into that, if need be)
IDE architecture (i can check on the brand name, if need be)
Standard 101 clone keyboard
Chinon CDS-435 CD-ROM, with its own SCSI adapter,
CD-ROM set to SCSI ID 0 (it works fine w/ dos stuff)
Western Digital 340mb IDE drive
16 MB RAM
1 serial port (mouse set at 0x3f8, IRQ 4)
authentic microsoft mouse
1 3.5" HD FDD
Cirrus logic 5422 video card
Dell 17" monitor (hah - like it's paid for)
I've got both NeXTStep & the developer ver 3.1
here's what happens when i boot up off of the installation floppy
disk: (my comments in /* */)
/*... standard boot stuff*/
ISA Bus
Warning: Using internal backup device configuratoin tables
PCPointer Probe: MouseInit failure /* the mouse works fine w/ dos */
Registering: PCKeyboard0
Registering: PCPointer0
PS2Keyboard/HandleACK: Unexpected ACK from keyboard
Resetting SCSI Bus: /* pause...*/
Registering: hc0 /* system locks up - floppy
drive & hard disk spin
continuously */
---------------------
If anyone could offer any advice, PLEASE do so. I can look into the
details of the hardware, if that would help.
thanks,
dan
fineman@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: garyc@news.eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: Recommendation for APC UPS450 or UPS600 needed...
Message-ID: <CFBEK6.Ay5@eecs.nwu.edu>
Sender: usenet@eecs.nwu.edu
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 20:07:18 GMT
Hi,
The power line here in my apt has been so unstable that I will
definitely need a UPS to save my disk and efferts. Can anyone recommend
a proper size of UPS in terms of Watts? From APC UPS lines, they got:
BK250B 250 VA, 170W 2-outlets
BK400B 400 VA, 250W 2-outlets
BK450 450 VA, 300W 4-outlets
BK600 600 VA, 400W 4-outlets
BK900 900 VA, 630W 6-outlets
My primary system involves a NeXTStation Color with 17" Color Monitor,
Plus a 1GB external SCSI drive in a 3.5" enclosure. I will only need it for
around 5 mins BACKUP time so that I could shutdown the system properly in time.
Any suggestions or recommendation for good price are highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Gary
From: Mike_Paquette@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Refresh rate at 1280 x 1024 x 8bit on Intel Professional/GX
Date: 22 Oct 1993 19:48:15 GMT
Organization: NeXT, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2a9ddv$rf0@rosie.next.com>
References: <scratch.751305542@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca>
In article <scratch.751305542@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca>
scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) writes:
> > munch...
> You mean the driver can make a difference between irreversible
> damage to the RAMDAC or not? I thought that if the hardware
> can't handle it, then it can't handle it. I just wonder if a
> typical ATI-card installation would overheat, but the GX is
> designed to remove the heat.
>
> Craig
It's like this. If we write a driver that permits the user to select up
to a 135 MHz dot clock on the RAMDAC (1280x1024 @ 76Hz 8 bit), and some
user selects that clock in spite of (unknowingly) having a RAMDAC rated
for only 110 MHz, and that RAMDAC burns up, who are they going to blame
for the fried hardware? Themselves?
Somehow, I don't think so. I think NeXT would be blamed for letting the
user do this, and I think the net.flamage would far exceed what we are
getting for not supporting this mode of operation.
All device drivers shipped by NeXT have to work on a very broad range of
hardware, and are designed conservatively to help ensure correct operation
on as many platforms as possible.
Folks who are interested in bored out, nitro burning, supercharged Class A
performance device drivers (of any sort) might want to get the Developer
Kit to roll their own, or talk to their hardware vendors about getting
some customized drivers.
Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM
----
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Any factual information presented in this message is my responsibility,
and doesn't represent anything official from NeXT Computer. In fact, it
was probably produced by line noise.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Caution: Adaptec 1542CF
Message-ID: <1993Oct22.200530.16786@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 20:05:30 GMT
"Adaptec has released a new version of this card, the 1542cf. NeXT's driver may
not work with this card. NeXT is aware of the problem and working with Adaptec
to find a solution." - document 1108 from Next Answers dated 10/15/93
Suspicion confirmed. :-)
--
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or traditional: EXTREME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jont@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Subject: Re: Refresh rate at 1280 x 1024 x 8bit on Intel Professional/GX
Message-ID: <1993Oct22.212559.27360@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
References: <scratch.751305542@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca> <2a9ddv$rf0@rosie.next.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 21:25:59 GMT
In article <2a9ddv$rf0@rosie.next.com> Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM writes:
>In article <scratch.751305542@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca>
>scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) writes:
>> > munch...
>> You mean the driver can make a difference between irreversible
>> damage to the RAMDAC or not? I thought that if the hardware
>> can't handle it, then it can't handle it. I just wonder if a
>> typical ATI-card installation would overheat, but the GX is
>> designed to remove the heat.
>>
>> Craig
>
>It's like this. If we write a driver that permits the user to select up
>to a 135 MHz dot clock on the RAMDAC (1280x1024 @ 76Hz 8 bit), and some
>user selects that clock in spite of (unknowingly) having a RAMDAC rated
>for only 110 MHz, and that RAMDAC burns up, who are they going to blame
>for the fried hardware? Themselves?
>
>Somehow, I don't think so. I think NeXT would be blamed for letting the
>user do this, and I think the net.flamage would far exceed what we are
>getting for not supporting this mode of operation.
>
>All device drivers shipped by NeXT have to work on a very broad range of
>hardware, and are designed conservatively to help ensure correct operation
>on as many platforms as possible.
>
>Folks who are interested in bored out, nitro burning, supercharged Class A
>performance device drivers (of any sort) might want to get the Developer
>Kit to roll their own, or talk to their hardware vendors about getting
>some customized drivers.
>
> Mike_Paquette@NeXT.COM
I can definitely see the problem with this and your probably write that
all of the fingers would point to NeXT. But I'm wondering if there is a
way to detect what RAMDAC is there and disallow dangerous settings.
Alternately, I know that under DOS/Windoze I had to configure the refresh
using ATI's utilities that wrote something to an onboard EEPROM. Would it
be possible to write a driver that uses this info to set up the scan
rates. As far as I know, the ATI utility won't let you select rates that
will damage the card, though it may damage the monitor.
Just me $.02
Jon
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark_anenberg@ccmail.com (Mark Anenberg)
Subject: A Pentium that works with NS/I - The ALR Evolution V !
Message-ID: <mark_anenberg.74.000FB89F@ccmail.com>
Sender: news@ccmail.com
Organization: Lotus CCMail
Distribution: ca, na
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 15:43:09
First of all, let me say that I do not work for ALR and I do not
personally guarantee this configuration, but:
I have NS/I 3.1 running on the following machine:
ALR Evolution V - 60MHz Pentium, 3 VLB slots, 5 ISA slots, 24MB RAM
Toshiba 3301 CDROM.
Seagate SCSI hard drive
Adaptec 1540C ISA scsi disk controller
ATI Ultra Pro VLB w/ 2MB VRAM
Sony 1730 monitor (1024x768 max resolution)
Microsoft serial mouse
Hard drive was jumpered at id 0; CDROM set to id 6. The installation went
flawlessly. This machine is a beauty if you are use to a non-turbo Next like I
was. The slowness that 3.1 added over NS2.1 when dealing with the file browser
is all gone. Its very snappy. The best thing is that ALR is shipping these
now. I had mine within 4 days (unlike Gateway which is claiming 7 weeks,
though they haven't shipped a one yet)
Base price for the EvolutionV is $2495, which includes 8MB RAM, 3.5" floppy,
keyboard, desktop case (no video card, monitor, no hard disk or controller)
You can buy a stripped system like this one or custom order a particular
configuration. If you are interested: 1-800-444-4ALR; ask for Steve
Sambrano.
Good Luck,
Mark Anenberg, Lotus CCMail
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dennis@agincourt.uchicago.edu (Dennis Jenks)
Subject: Compatible modems?
Message-ID: <1993Oct22.224631.6634@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic & Public Computing
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 22:46:31 GMT
I'm trying to find a modem that will work with NEXTSTEP on an NEC
Ultralite Versa laptop computer. I tried Megahertz's XJ196FM which is not
compatible according to Megahertz. Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Which CDROM Drives work with 486 & NeXTStep?
In-Reply-To: dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca's message of Thu, 21 Oct 1993 17:20:05 GMT
To: dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca (Dennis S. Breckenridge)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Oct22082715@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2a3csd$92b@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM> <CEDMAN.93Oct20145843@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<CF9C5I.LJ5@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 12:27:14 GMT
In article <CF9C5I.LJ5@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca> dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca (Dennis S. Breckenridge) writes:
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> I have a Toshiba 3401B CDROM drive, will this work?
>Yes, from personal experience.
What do you call working? I have the Adatec 1542c and the Toshiba 3401 CD
and I can install software from it but I cannot play audio CD's (it just
ejects them) or browse a photo cd (again it just eject's them)
IS this a "feature" or do I really have a bug :-)
Well, both of these are definitly bugs. The former one seems to
happen with virtually all drives consistently to some fraction of NeXT
users, while the rest of all NeXT users don't have any problems. The
actual causes of this behaviour are still a matter of active research
interest :-), but a good starting point seems to be to check for
corrupted files in /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs and
/NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app.
The latter is a problem with a known fix but unfortunately it seems
that right now the intersection of the set of people who know how to
fix it and the set of people who are interested in PhotoCD is empty.
NS 3.2, maybe.
Carl Edman
From: ptbast@cs.wpi.edu (Peter F Bastien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Hardware Compatibility for NS3.2
Date: 23 Oct 1993 15:20:13 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Message-ID: <2abi3d$p7q@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
Last night I looked in the NeXT answers ftp site for such a
document, and could not find one. Does anyone know the status? Or is
it just "To be Released on MMM DD"?
Thanks,
Pete
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: burns@gatech.edu (James E. Burns)
Subject: Help!! Can't use 2 HD & CD at same time
Message-ID: <BURNS.93Oct23122545@wildcat.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com
Organization: School of ICS, Georgia Tech
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1993 17:25:45 GMT
I recently got a second external hard drive. I had lots of trouble
loading 3.1 onto it (error messages, several fsck's etc.) After
finally getting things straight I have discovered that some of the
problems I had building the disk might have been due to the following
trouble, which persists.
Hardware:
NeXTCube 68040, 28MB, Optical, 330 MB internal (MAXTOR XT-8380S Rev B3C)
NeXT CDROM (SONY CD-ROM CDU-541)
PLI Superfloppy (Rev 1.50)
Parity 1 Gig external (SEAGATE ST11200N Rev 8770)
Peripheral Solutions 1 Gig external (DEC DSP3105S Rev T392)
I have played with various SCSI target addresses, but I can't seem
to get all four external devices to work together. Here are a few
sample error messages:
localhost mach: s0 (1,0): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x2
localhost mach: s0 (1,0): ERROR op:0x12 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x2
localhost mach: s0 (1,1): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x8
(Can anyone decipher this?)
I can run with the CDROM and either one of the external HD's, or
with both HD's without the CDROM, but not with all three. (I can't
cut out the floppy because it is serving as the SCSI terminator.)
Could this be a problem with cable length (<18')? Is there a
possibility of some incompatibility with the different devices?
Any advice greatly appreciated. All the cable swapping is driving
me nuts!
Thanks,
jim burns (If using email, please reply to burns@nova.bellcore.com)
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From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Goodbye 040 (sob) ?
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1993 13:38:20 -0400
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <YgmKkAmSMUkHRLSlFr@transarc.com>
Well, I do like my 68040 NeXTstation. I've always been a 68xxx fan (even
back to the days of the 68xx !), I love having a BSD-like box at home,
the black, low-profile case is pleasing, the keyboard and I are good
together, the MegaPixel is both sharp and flat (focused well and low
curvature).
But to keep up with the world, I have to start looking at Intel systems.
I don't enjoy the thought of having some conformist-beige, double-height
box, sold by a combinatorically-confounding-number-of-vendors,
segmented-architecture system to replace it. But I get the feeling that
someday soon, NS 3.3, 4.0 whatever will be much better on the Intel
boxes than on the 040 boxes (as support moves from one to the other).
So, I either will be looking at moving to a turbo NSC and risking
staying with 3.2 forever, or getting into the 486 world.
SO: my questions: the net is *full* of talk about 486 hardware that
makes good magic with NS 3.1/3.2 . I'd like to get summaries along the
following lines:
1) does NeXT publish any guidelines for getting a NS/I system
together?
2) can I rely on the Intel boxes' typical expansion abilities
to allow me to get a bare-bones NS/I system up and
running for, say, $2800 and add things to it later
to take full advantage of NS/I ?
3) I use the serial ports continuously for UUCP and SLIP.
Are the serial drivers in NS/I 3.1/3.2 fixed?
I hear they are a little spotty.
Simply put, I don't relish having to plow through the hundreds of
vendors for Intel systems and accessories. I'm MAINLY interested in
getting a *reliable* system at a fair price without making it into an
epic quest. A working 486-Mach box is the first goal. I'll expand the
system later.
Please reply to me directly, preferably at my NeXT:
travis@eclipse.pgh.pa.us
Are you asking the same questions? Send your address to the above
machine and I'll try to condense the responses and send it to you
directly (when it's ready, and if it's useful).
--
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travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
From: chris@stokeisland.ohi.com (Christopher J. Traynor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problem with Fujitsu external optical drive
Date: 23 Oct 1993 15:04:03 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9310231940.AA00401@stokeisland.ohi.com>
All:
I just got a Fujitsu 128meg optical drive and can't seem to get it to work
properly. When I insert a disk, it is recognized but I can't initialize it. The
disk type is gotten properly from the probe, but errors occurr because the 'disk'
utility can't write to the boot block. Here is the console error that I get:
Disk Label: Chris_Data1
Disk Capacity 121MB, Device Block 512 bytes
probing for CDROM
probing for DOS
probing for mac
probing for cdaudio
/usr/etc/disk -i -h stokeisland -l "Chris_Data1" /dev/rsd1a
sd1 (6,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (6,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24
SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
disk name: FUJITSU M2511A
disk type: removable_rw_scsi
writing disk label
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 1
[... chomp]
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 9
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL
[... chomp]
...r/w returned -1; expected 50176
Write of boot block 0 failed
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 1
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 2
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 3
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 4
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 5
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 6
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 7
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 8
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x2000, resid = 0x2000, retry 9
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL
...r/w returned -1; expected 50176
Write of boot block 1 failed
No boot blocks on disk
The next time I put the disk in the drive, a panel comes up saying that
the disk is damaged. If I choose repair, I get this error:
Disk Label: Chris_Data1
Disk Capacity 121MB, Device Block 512 bytes
/usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rsd1a
(null pointer): BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG
(null pointer): USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN
ALTERNATE
(null pointer): SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8).
(null pointer): UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
[try one more time...]
/usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rsd1a
(null pointer): BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG
(null pointer): USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN
ALTERNATE
(null pointer): SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8).
(null pointer): UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
Disk Label: Chris_Data1
Disk Capacity 121MB, Device Block 512 bytes
Oct 23 13:58:01 stokeisland su: SU to root by chris on /dev/ttyp4
sd1 (6,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (6,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24
SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch)
I tried to use the 'disk' utility and the newfs utility manually, but I
don't get any better results. I know the drive is being recognized properly
during boot, so the only other thing I can think of is that maybe I would need a
disktab entry.
If anyone has gotten a drive like this one to work - even another
manufacturer's drive - please respond directly to me with any help you can offer.
Thanks in advance...
Christopher Traynor
From: kenr@shl.com (Ken Rossen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP - NEC Versa - which BIOS update fixes the sleep problem??
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1993 17:31:33 -0500
Organization: SHL Systemhouse
Message-ID: <kenr-231093173133@slip-kjr.shl.com>
References: <kenr-131093134740@slip-kjr.shl.com> <kenr-141093002606@slip-kjr.shl.com>
> In article <kenr-131093134740@slip-kjr.shl.com>, I wrote:
>
> > What enhancements am I waiting for under NS/Intel in order for it to
> > support:
> . The battery management features of the Versa (currently hangs
> on reawaken from sleep)
As I later indicated, a correspondent replying to this message
chastised me for spreading such misinformation about the Versa,
indicating that only the Versa has a sleep mode compatible with
NextStep.
But it turns out from a second reading of this message that one is required
to have an only week-old eeprom update in order for this to work, so one
could be forgiven for interpreting this as "sleep mode doesn't work,"
I should think.
So now I know where to find the eeprom update (the NEC support BBS at
508/635-4706), *but* my correspondent hasn't advised what is the right
file or BIOS release to install. Nothing I've downloaded has fixed
the problem, and nobody on the BBS knows the first thing about NextStep.
My correspondent isn't returning my messages.
Is anyone else aware of this problem, and of which file to install in order
to fix it?? Help!
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Serial Ports (I need more)
Message-ID: <1993Oct23.150204.2429@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1993 15:02:04 GMT
All suggestions welcome.
I have a machine (Compaq) that has two great serial ports. Unfortunately,
they are both occupied by going to a couple of other systems in the
office. Now, I need to connect a printer, serial, and a FAX modem,
serial.
Does anyone know of any HW/SW solutions to giving me more serial ports.
Even, the ability to use ports off another machine on the net would be a
help.
THanks
Wes Spears
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From: mtie@carleton.edu (Michael Tie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Fujitsu M2694ESA
Date: 23 Oct 1993 21:47:47 GMT
Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA
Message-ID: <2ac8q3$bol@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu>
Keywords: Fujitsu
Hi,
I'm trying to install Fujitsu M2694ESA (3.5" 1.2 GB SCSI Hard disk) into a
next cube as a boot disk. The cube has a 25 MHz 68040 processor, OD, and
external NeXT CD-ROM.
I've installed the drive into the cube; I booted off of the network; and
I used BuildDisk to format and install the operating system (NS 3.0). If
I boot off of the net, then the hard drive shows up fine on /dev/sd0a, and
all of the standard files are there... The problem is that when I try to
boot off of the new hard drive I see:
NeXT>b
Boot Command: sd
boot sd(0,0,0)
SCSI unexpected mesg:1
sc: Unexpected msg
..
I've looked at fujitsu.recipe (a document out on cs.orst.edu); it
suggested running "scsimodes /dev/rsd0a", so I did, but it didn't help.
It also suggests setting the HD scsi address to 1, so I did, and I still
see the above error message. (by the way, the default address on the disk
was 0; with the disk at 0, I also received the above error)
I've tried the HD as scsi address 0 and 1, the CD-ROM is at 2. I left the
terminator on the HD, and I have a terminator on the outside of the CD-ROM
box...
Anyone have any clues?
Any help that you can provide would be appreciated.
-Mike Tie mtie@carleton.edu
Math/CS 507-663-4067
Carleton College
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: u40jdp1@mp.cs.niu.edu (James Phelps)
Subject: MegaPixel Won't Come Up
Message-ID: <1993Oct23.224957.11059@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1993 22:49:57 GMT
With no previous symptoms of trouble, my 2 1/2 year old B/W Monitor
suddenly refuses to show anything at all -- it's black as if screen-
blanked. It was not dimming at all. All was hunky-dory. A very sudden
misfortune.
Any ideas? How 'bout a fuse of some sort in the monitor?
Any reply welcome.
James Phelps, NIU -- jphelps@nicemusic2.music.niu.edu
From: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Seek info about Ambra (IBM) computers.
Date: 24 Oct 1993 03:13:09 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <GISLI.93Oct23231309@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
In PC Magazine #18 I find an ad from Ambra computers ("an IBM
subsidiary"). I do not belive I have seen this brand mentioned in
this group. These machines seem to be aggressively priced, e.g.
Desktop D466 BL
o 486 Blue Lightning, 66MHz
o 8Mb RAM
o 256kb Processor Cache
o 240Mb hard disk (IDE? SCSI?)
o Onboard SCSI
o 2 VESA LB slots
o 15" "Flat Square" color monitor
o Ethernet 10BaseT
o DOS, Windows, mouse
Price: $1,975
Questions:
- What is Blue Lightning and is it NeXTSTEP compatible?
- Is the onboard SCSI NeXTSTEP compatible?
In short: Will this baby run NeXTSTEP??
Also, since I missed the 800 number hours, does anyone know if the
hard disk in this package is a SCSI? What video card does it have?
Is this 15" monitor any good?
By the way, the next (NeXT?) machine in the ad is:
Minitower T466DX
o 486DX2 66MHz
o 8Mb RAM
o 256kb cache
o 340Mb hard disk (IDE? SCSI?)
o onboard SCSI
o 2 VESA LB slots
o CD-ROM drive (SCSI??)
o 15" FST color monitor
o Ethernet 10baseT
o DOS, Windows, mouse
Price: 2,649
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Grad Student and a Gentleman
Delenda est Carthago.
University of Michigan
gisli@engin.umich.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: Gateway P5-60
Message-ID: <glenCFDsL8.K70@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 03:05:32 GMT
I have seen adds for the new gateway pentium base machine and it's ati XLR
pci video. I know the machine is not shipping yet, but was wondering if with
the PCI based video would this help NeXTStep?? I also noticed in the add that the ati XLR has 2 megs of "DRAM" not VRAM.. would that hinder performance..
-steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Keyboard Controller Replacement
Message-ID: <1993Oct24.032106.633@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 03:21:06 GMT
Phoenix Keyboard Controller Replacement
It appears that some Phoenix BIOS keyboard controllers are not compatible with
NS/FIP. If your motherboard has a 40 pin keyboard controller BIOS chip in a
socket, then you are in luck!!! You can obtain an upgrade chip from the
followiung vendor:
CMOS Solutions, Inc.
26560 West Agoura Road
Suite 112
Calabasas, CA 91302
1-800-CMOS-INC (Voice)
1-818-880-8966 (Fax)
VISA MASTERCARD
Ask for a Keyboard Controller Interface #8042. It should cost $14.95 + $5.00
shipping. I ordered one on Tuesday and received on Saturday. I popped the old
Phoenix chip out, put the new Mr. BIOS chip in, and I now have NEXTSTEP running
on my 2 year old PC. (See my related post for system details.)
I have no affiliation with CMOS Solutions, Inc. I am just a satisfied
customer. Your mileage may vary. Good Luck.
--
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Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
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From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: Another NS/FIP success story ... FINALLY!!!!!
Message-ID: <1993Oct24.032349.686@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 03:23:49 GMT
Another NS/FIP success story ... FINALLY!!!!!
A couple of months ago, I determined that my Phoenix keyboard controller BIOS
was not compatible with NS/FIP. The installation would hang after attempting
to register the keyboard and the floppy would spin forever. Recently, I
located a vendor that sells a replacement keyboard controller. A $15 chip
later and my old PC proceeded to load NEXTSTEP without any problems!! (See my
related post on where to obtain the keyboard controller chip if you think need
one.)
HERE'S MY ANTIQUE HARDWARE CONFIGURATION NOW RUNNING NEXTSTEP:
Gateway 2000 486/33C (October 1991)
Micronics Gemini ISA AT Motherboard (Tower)
Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 0.10 G14 01/15/88
Intel 486DX / 33 MHz
8 MB RAM (8 - 1X3 70 ns SIMM's)
Anykey (Maxiswitch) 124 Key Programmable Keyboard
Multi - I/O Expansion Card
Floppy Drive A: 3.5" 1.44 MB
Floppy Drive B: 5.25" 1.2 MB
IDE Hard Drive 1: 210 MB Western Digital Piranha 4200
IDE Hard Drive 2: (disabled)
Serial Port COM1: Microsoft Serial Mouse
Serial Port COM2: (disabled)
Parallel Port LPT1: TI MicroLaser PS17
Game Port: (disabled)
Diamond Speedstar Plus SVGA Card
988 Tseng Lab, Inc. 03/01/91 V4.23X
1 MB VRAM
Adaptec 1542C SCSI Controller Card
SCSI ID 7, Internal Termination
Floppy Disabled
TEXEL DM-3024 Internal Double Speed CD ROM Drive
SCSI ID 2, Internal Termination
Infotel (Twincom) 144DFI Internal V.42bis FAX/Modem
Set to serial port COM2 (Works with MicroPhone Pro demo)
Good luck and never give up!!!!
--
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Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
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From: garnett@actlab.rtf.utexas.edu (John Garnett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Seek info about Ambra (IBM) computers.
Date: 24 Oct 1993 06:33:53 GMT
Organization: ACTLab (UT Austin, RTF Dept)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ad7kh$9me@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <GISLI.93Oct23231309@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu>
In article <GISLI.93Oct23231309@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu> gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson) writes:
]
]In PC Magazine #18 I find an ad from Ambra computers ("an IBM
]subsidiary"). I do not belive I have seen this brand mentioned in
]this group. These machines seem to be aggressively priced, e.g.
]
[stuff munched here]
[Questions:
[
[ - What is Blue Lightning and is it NeXTSTEP compatible?
[ - Is the onboard SCSI NeXTSTEP compatible?
[
[In short: Will this baby run NeXTSTEP??
No.
The Blue Lightning doesn't have onboard floating point (from what I hear)
[and NeXTSTEP requires it].
The onboard SCSI wouldn't likely be NS compatible anyway.
[Also, since I missed the 800 number hours, does anyone know if the
[hard disk in this package is a SCSI? What video card does it have?
[Is this 15" monitor any good?
The hard disk is not a SCSI (pretty silly to have on board SCSI and not
ship it with a SCSI, eh?). In fact, Ambra will not even ship one of these
machines with a SCSI disk _unless_ you order it in addition to the IDE
drive that you must order to get the machine. The excuse is they are
only setup to test the IDE config and they won't sell a machine they don't
test (preinstalled DOS).
[By the way, the next (NeXT?) machine in the ad is:
[
[Minitower T466DX
[ o 486DX2 66MHz
[ o 8Mb RAM
[ o 256kb cache
[ o 340Mb hard disk (IDE? SCSI?)
[ o onboard SCSI
[ o 2 VESA LB slots
[ o CD-ROM drive (SCSI??)
[ o 15" FST color monitor
[ o Ethernet 10baseT
[ o DOS, Windows, mouse
This one would probably run NeXTSTEP but I doubt the onboard SCSI and
Ethernet would work unless NeXT Inc. tweaks some drivers. I don't think
the drive here is SCSI either. Only the configurations that specifically
claim to have a SCSI drive have one.
--john
From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MegaPixel Won't Come Up
Message-ID: <2adi37$5k7@cc.tut.fi>
Date: 24 Oct 93 09:32:23 GMT
References: <1993Oct23.224957.11059@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
In article <1993Oct23.224957.11059@mp.cs.niu.edu> u40jdp1@mp.cs.niu.edu (James Phelps) writes:
>With no previous symptoms of trouble, my 2 1/2 year old B/W Monitor
>suddenly refuses to show anything at all -- it's black as if screen-
>blanked. It was not dimming at all. All was hunky-dory. A very sudden
>misfortune.
>
>Any ideas? How 'bout a fuse of some sort in the monitor?
>
>Any reply welcome.
If you are not familiar with electronics, just dumb this message to
the recycler.
There are no fuses inside the Megapixel, but there are several components
that are measured so that they work as a fuse. This is a real pain.
In my experience, D1 (diode) is one of the first components to get
burned when something funny happens. Then there's a resistor right
after it (can't remember the part number, R something anyway) which is
located right above the diode. These are the two components that burn
very easily. There's a lame illustration of the boards and the place
of the components:
_______________
| _____________ |
|| @@ # ||
|| @@ # ||
|| ||
|| ### || < the board that handles the
|| R ### || picture generation
|| D1 ||
||_____________||
/ ____________ /
/ / / / < the board that takes care of
/ /___________/ / volume, brightness, keyboard/mouse,
/_______________/ etc (SMD)
@@
@@ = high voltage transformer
## = passive cooling elements
When you open the monitor, you'll have to disconnect the high voltage
cable to the tube and loose some screws and you'll able to pull this
L shaped rack with two boards out. D1 and the R are located as shown
in the figure. When board is functioning, there's about 50 V around
the diode and the resistor. Check the diode and if it's burned, just
replace it. I couldn't find the same diode as a service part in Finland, so I
replaced it with Motorola 70 V/5A very fast diode. Can't remember the
type, but browse a Motorola diode catalog, it should be easy to find.
If the resistor is burned, don't replace it with a heavier one, because
that way it will loose its function in working as a fuse.
I've burned 3 separate Megapixels and each time it has been one of those
two components.
Good luck. Feel free to ask any further questions.
--
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Opiskelijankatu 30 B 42 Tampere University of Technology
33720 TAMPERE - FINLAND Mail: t146678@cc.tut.fi Phone: +358-31-182 851
From: art@eskimo.com (Arthur Morton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sale NeXt Docs
Message-ID: <CFEMFG.AtE@eskimo.com>
Date: 24 Oct 93 14:00:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
NeXtstep Reference Volume 1 & 2
NeXt Concepts
NeXt Network and System Administration
NeXt Technical Summaries
NeXt Writing Loadable Kernel Services
NeXt Supplemental Documentation
NeXt Sound, Music and Signal Processor User's Manual
NeXt DSP Assembler Manual
NeXt Applications
DSP5600/DSP56001 Digital Signal Processor User's Manual
NeXt 86040 Processor Board Upgtrade Manual
NeXt Upgrading to Release 2.0 Manual
Setup and Tutorials
NexT User's Reference
NeXt Development Tools
These Manuals are For Sale as a set for $250.00. I will ship anywere in
the United States.
OBE
Please Email me at art.eskimo.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: magnusson!kris (Kristopher Magnusson)
Subject: Re: Epson Progression NX + ProAudio Spectrum 16 problems
Message-ID: <CFD4nK.71o@magnusson.uucp>
Sender: kris@magnusson.uucp (Kristopher Magnusson)
Organization: Salt Lake area NeXT Group
References: <CF5FDr.6oC@BenaTong.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1993 18:28:31 GMT
In article <CF5FDr.6oC@BenaTong.com> chuck@benatong.com (Charles G.
Bennett) writes:
> Does anyone have an Epson Progression NX with working sound?
>
> If so, would you please mail me your board settings?
>
> I have an Adaptec 1542B, Intel Express Networking card.
>
> It "almost" worked at 0x388, DMA 1, Int 10.. Sound played for awhile
> then stopped working.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Chuck
>
> "I seem to be at the bottom and a very deep dark pit.
> What does that remind me of? Ah,yes. Windows"
I've got four Progressions just banging around the office. None of them has ever played sound.
On the other hand, the NX deployment machine plays sound very well most of the time, though it seems to vary from box to box for some odd reason.
Kris
awhile
> then stopped working.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Chuck
>
> "I seem to be at the bottom and a very deep dark pit.
> What does that remind me of?
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From: zeno@abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont)
Subject: NeXTstation non-turbo hardware specs?
Message-ID: <1993Oct25.073451.2681@coco.ms.washington.edu>
Sender: news@coco.ms.washington.edu (C-news admin)
Organization: Abstract Software
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 07:34:51 GMT
Hi. I'm dumping the internal 1M simms and the original shipped Quantum
105 Drive that came with my monostation, and I'd like to know the
exact specs on the respective pieces of hardware (speeds, etc.)
Please respond via email.
Thanks.
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Help with NS/FIP and Configure
Message-ID: <1993Oct25.045432.5654@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 04:54:32 GMT
I am working on a Compaq Prosignia 486/66. It has an Adaptec 1542C
Controller, and an ATI Ultra Pro Graphics card. Here is the problem. I
have installed the new ATI driver.
When I try to make any changes using configure, the boot up stalls at the
rootdev 600 howto 0 part. Now if I enter the config=Default at the boot
prompt, it comes up. I have tried even simply adding the VGA driver as
teh only driver for the system, removing the ATI card, and using the
system graphics, and it still fails.
Has anyone run into anything similar. I looked at the
system.config/Default.table, and even duplicated it to be Instance0.table
so that the machine will simply come up with VGA, but on an NEC 21"
monitor, it is not a pretty site. THe Icons are about 1.5". In any
event, all questions and reccomendations are appreciated.
Thanks
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Newsgroups: uiuc.acm,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: burns@sparc14.cs.uiuc.edu (Edward John Burns)
Subject: MIDI Pinouts
Message-ID: <CFGJ5K.LG@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu>
Summary: Looking for MIDI<->NeXT interface
Keywords: MIDI NeXT interface
Sender: news@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 14:34:32 GMT
What are the pinouts on the 5 pin DIN ports on MIDI keyboards?
I would like to get this information so I can look at the feasibility
of building a MIDI interface for the NeXT, which has an 8 pin miniDIN
serial port pinout.
Thanks,
Ed Burns
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: CANON BJC600?
Message-ID: <CFGos4.6z@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 16:36:04 GMT
Hi,
does anybody know about CANON BJC600, if this color printer, cheap and
very good, would run with black hardware. The thing also is, that the
BJC600 has only a parallel port. How could be changed parallel into
seriell?
For any answers or help thanks for it
Manfred
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From: windsor@genesis.MCS.COM (Eric Blankenburg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: **** 34 pin IDE ribbon-to-cable...?? ****
Date: 25 Oct 1993 12:08:02 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Subscriber, Chicago, IL
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ah15i$q50@genesis.MCS.COM>
Keywords: IDE, cable, floppy, drive
I have an old cube with a Turbo '040 board in it. I recently bought an
external drive for it. The Turbo '040 board has a socket on the board for
the 34-pin IDE flat ribbon cable.
Can (or has) anyone ever produced a standard cable with a 34-pin IDE head
connecter on each end that is not a flat ribbon cable?
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Send responses to windsor@mcs.com
Thanks.
From: j-gebis@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Gebis Joseph James)
Newsgroups: uiuc.acm,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MIDI Pinouts
Date: 25 Oct 1993 17:34:41 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2ah2nh$2m5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <CFGJ5K.LG@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: MIDI NeXT interface
burns@sparc14.cs.uiuc.edu (Edward John Burns) writes:
>What are the pinouts on the 5 pin DIN ports on MIDI keyboards?
>Thanks,
>Ed Burns
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From ftp.cs.ruu.nl:/pub/MIDI/DOC/midi-cable (there's other midi stuff there,
too -- check it out):
> (From Bob McQueer's MIDI Spec Primer)
>
> The standard connectors used for MIDI are 5 pin DIN. Separate sockets
> are used for input and output, clearly marked on a given device. The
> spec. gives 50 feet as the maximum cable length. Cables are to be
> shielded twisted pair, with the shield connecting pin 2 at both ends.
> The pair is pins 4 and 5, pins 1 and 3 being unconnected:
>
> 2
> 5 4
> 3 1
If you buy a generic cable, it probably looks like:
/\ ################# /\
1 -|------#################---|------ 1
| | ################# | |
2 -|------#################---|------ 2
| | ################# | |
3 -|------#################---|------ 3
| | ################# | |
4 -|------#################---|------ 4
| | ################# | |
5 -|------#################---|----- 5
| | ################# | |
\/ ################# \/
\___/ SHIELD \___/ Metal Shell of DIN Connector
This probably works, but it might be electrically noisy, and perhaps not
reliable for long distances. If you make your own cables with 2-conductor
shielded wire as described in the SPEC, do it as shown below:
/\ /\
/\ / ################# \ /\
1 -|- | | ################# | | ----- 1
| | | ################# | | |
2 -|-----/ ################# \--|------ 2
| | ################# | |
3 -|- | ################# | ----- 3
| | ################# | |
4 -|----------#################-------|------ 4
| | ################# | |
5 -|----------#################-------|----- 5
| | ################# | |
\/ ################# \/
\_ SHIELD _/ Metal shell of DIN Connector
Connect the wire shield to pin 2, and connect pins 4 and 5 with the other
wires. Do NOT connect the metal shell of the DIN connector to the wire
shield (pin 2) -- I had pin 2 shorted with the shell at first and that
didn't work with my setup.
This is the TRUE pin assignment for MIDI plugs.
I know it "by heart" because I used to make my own interfaces
for my computers...
MIDI IN : 1- n.c.
4- anode of optocoupler
2- n.c. <<<--- !!!! Different for MIDI OUT
5- cathode of optocoupler
3- n.c.
MIDI OUT/THRU: 1- n.c.
4- +5v thru resistor
2- local ground
5- TTL open collector ouput
3- n.c.
The pin numbers are usually printed into the plastic of the plug,
in that order (or the reversed one).
Don't connect MIDI IN pin 2... it preserves OPTOISOLATION from
MIDI OUT device to MIDI IN device.
To make your own MIDI cable, wire pin 4 to 4, pin 5 to 5, pin 2 to 2
and to the shield of your cable.
As stated in the MIDI 1.0 Spec:
"The cable shall be twisted pair, with the shield connected to
pin 2 at both ends."
^^^^^^^^^^^^
The ground loop problem is dealt with in the fact that MIDI
jacks on instruments are specified as pin 2 (ground) being connected
only at the transmitting ends, not at receiving end. This allows cables
to be used in any situation, with the ground connection taken care of
in the hardware specification.
From: cshramko@bbn.com (Chris Shramko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Use NextLaser with a Mac?
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 17:56:51 GMT
Organization: BBN Software Products
Message-ID: <cshramko.1101959451A@bbn.com>
I've got a Mac and a PC-Clone. My roommate has a Next and a Next Laser printer.
Any way to use the printer from the Mac & PC? I'd prefer a direct connect,
but would consider a network (ethernet or slip) and a print-server solution.
----------------------------------------------------
Chris Shramko cshramko@bbn.com (617)873-6389
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: What is the best video card to get?
Message-ID: <rorCFG5LJ.AI0@netcom.com>
Summary: What video card should I get?
Keywords: ATI, Video
Organization: PD Journal
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 09:41:43 GMT
What video card provides that most stable, clear, and crisp color video?
Is there anything better than the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro? NeXTWORLD said
something about a bug in the ATI chipset that slowed the card down. What
about the S3 cards? I care mostly about clear, crisp, and stable color
video. I understand that the S3 cards may be slightly faster, but what
about the quality of the image? How do S3 cards compare to the ATI card?
I have a non-local bus ATI Graphics Ultra Plus on another machine running
Windows, and it provided that best video I've ever seen. I'd really like
to have as good an image on my NEXTSTEP machine.
--
ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: What mouse should I get?
Message-ID: <rorCFG641.B4z@netcom.com>
Summary: What's better? A serial mouse or a bus mouse?
Keywords: mouse
Organization: PD Journal
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 09:52:48 GMT
I have been disappointed with the performance of my Microsoft serial
mouse. I had always assumed that it was jerky and inaccurate (especially
compared to the mouse performance on a Macintosh) because of the MS Windows
mouse driver, but when I installed NEXTSTEP on my machine, the mouse
performance did not improve.
Someone told me that I should buy a bus mouse or PS2 style mouse to
improve the situation.
Is this true?
--
ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: Optical mice for Intel machines?
Message-ID: <rorCFGCzz.Gx9@netcom.com>
Summary: Are there any Optical mice available for the PC?
Keywords: Optical, mice
Organization: PD Journal
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 12:21:34 GMT
Another mouse question.
I've noticed that a lot of workstations, such as Suns and SGIs, come with
optical mice instead of the roller-ball style. Are there any optical mice
available for the PC? Are there any that are compatible with the Microsoft
mouse (one that I could use with NEXTSTEP)?
What are the advantages, disadvantages of optical mice?
--
ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jdpierc@netcom.com (Jerry D. Pierce)
Subject: Intel GX users in Bay Area?
Message-ID: <jdpiercCFGq6s.ByD@netcom.com>
Keywords: Intel GX
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 17:06:27 GMT
The company I work for is looking at purchasing a couple of intel-based
machines to run NS/FIP on, and the leading contender hardware-wise appears
to be the Intel GX. (Based on commentary here, as well as reviews)
Is there anyone in the bay area running such a beastie that wouldn't
mind letting me see their setup? I'd like to determine just how well
this particular system works with NS/FIP prior to purchasing it... (As
well as talking with someone who has such a setup first-hand...)
Many thanks!
Jerry D. Pierce
jdpierc@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: chris@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Christian Limpach)
Subject: Re: Micropolis 1.2 GB drive
Message-ID: <CFGwME.x6@arkin>
Originator: chris@nice
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: welcome to nowhere...
References: <8gglhp600WB8QD0qU1@andrew.cmu.edu> <CEIn8x.r7@pilhuhn.sub.org> <SCOTT.93Oct8162523@nic.gac.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 19:25:26 GMT
Scott Hess (scott@nic.gac.edu) wrote:
> # This is the drive that was bundled Long Long Ago in NeXTStations.
> # I'm using it as a "just in case" NS2.1 though it works well as
> # giant swapdisk in normal usage ...
> SEAGATE ST1480 Rev 5129 as sd1 at sc0 target 1 lun 0
> Disk Label: Disk
> Disk Capacity 406MB, Device Block 512 bytes
there's one of these in my station :-)
I reformatted it using formatter version 1.2.
SEAGATE ST1480 Rev 5129 as sd1 at sc0 target 1 lun 0
Disk Label: Station
Disk Capacity 421MB, Device Block 1024 bytes
I also reformatted my 1GB fujitsu drive and until no, there haven't
been any problems...
christian
From: cwilson@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chris Wilson)
Newsgroups: uiuc.acm,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MIDI Pinouts
Date: 25 Oct 1993 21:15:45 GMT
Organization: Nat'l Center for Supercomputing Applications
Message-ID: <2ahfm1$1uf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <CFGJ5K.LG@sparc0a.cs.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: MIDI NeXT interface
burns@sparc14.cs.uiuc.edu (Edward John Burns) writes:
>What are the pinouts on the 5 pin DIN ports on MIDI keyboards?
>
>I would like to get this information so I can look at the feasibility
>of building a MIDI interface for the NeXT, which has an 8 pin miniDIN
>serial port pinout.
Joe Gebis' reply covers this pretty well, but two points: 1) MIDI connections
are required by the MIDI spec to be opto-isolated at each end... THIS IS
IMPORTANT!!!! 2) NeXTs can use a standard Macintosh MIDI interface - these
can be had for $35-45. In fact, unless you have a burning desire to build it
yourself, I'd kinda recommend it.
-Chris Wilson
MIDI Guru :^)
cwilson@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon)
Subject: Re: Use NextLaser with a Mac?
Message-ID: <CFGzLC.At9@lotus.com>
Sender: news@lotus.com
Organization: Lotus Development
References: <cshramko.1101959451A@bbn.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 20:29:35 GMT
In article <cshramko.1101959451A@bbn.com> cshramko@bbn.com (Chris Shramko)
writes:
> I've got a Mac and a PC-Clone. My roommate has a Next and a Next Laser
> printer. Any way to use the printer from the Mac & PC? I'd prefer a direct
> connect, but would consider a network (ethernet or slip) and a print-server
> solution.
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Chris Shramko cshramko@bbn.com (617)873-6389
No easy way to connect 'em up directly -- the NeXT Laser has no real
intelligence and the hardware interface is custom.
The simplest (but slowest) way to print on the NeXT from either machine is to
use floppies. On the Macintosh you configure a Postscript printer and Save the
postscript output to a floppy when you print. Under MS Windows on the PC you
can rig up something similar. (Alternatively you can transfer files over a
serial cable but you can't really drive the NeXT serial line faster than 38.4K
baud).
IPT sells a package that lets you configure a NeXT to act as a Macintosh
Printer server. Unfortunately NeXT doesn't speak LocalTalk so you'll need an
Ethernet card in your Macintosh -- and you'll have to fire up the NeXT and its
printer every time you want to print from the Mac.
I had a similar problem to yours but decided on a more drastic solution -- I
sold my NeXT Laser printer and replaced it with an HP LaserJet 4M. It supports
serial, parallel and AppleTalk interfaces simultaneously. It handles printing
from NeXT, PC-Clone and Macintosh without requiring a network or additional
software.
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From: jacobsen@cae.wisc.edu (Jacobsen Erik)
Subject: cancel <1993Oct25.164146.4321@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: 25 Oct 93 17:04:55 CDT
Message-ID: <1993Oct25.170459.4718@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
References: <1993Oct25.164146.4321@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jacobsen@cae.wisc.edu (Jacobsen Erik)
Subject: SCSI driver for the Intel/GX
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Distribution: na
Date: 25 Oct 93 16:57:55 CDT
Message-ID: <1993Oct25.165759.4567@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
I would like to know if a driver that supports the Intel/GX's on board
SCSI has been written. If not is one planned? If it has been written
where may I find a copy? Thanks for the info!
Erik Jacobsen
jacobsen@cae.wisc.edu
Keywords:
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MIDI Pinouts
Date: 25 Oct 1993 23:10:57 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2ahme1$ffg@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2ahfm1$1uf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <2ahfm1$1uf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> cwilson@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chris
Wilson) writes:
> 2) NeXTs can use a standard Macintosh MIDI interface - these
> can be had for $35-45. In fact, unless you have a burning desire to build
> it yourself, I'd kinda recommend it.
This is not entirely correct. 68030 based NeXT computers were compatible with
Mac MIDI interfaces but the '040 based NeXT computers are not.
Quoting from the relevant NeXT documentation:
"Serial ports A and B use 8-pin miniature DIN (MiniDIN-8) connectors. Both
ports on a 68040-based NeXT computer are RS-423 compatible; the ports on a
68030-based NeXT computer are RS-422 compatible (though different)."
Most unpowered Mac MIDI interfaces will not work correctly on '040 based NeXT
machines. They may receive but not transmit or vice versa. There are some Mac
MIDI interfaces which are NeXT compatible, the Opcode Studio 3 comes to mind.
Several other self powered interfaces may work as well. I believe this is
detailed in the FAQ. MIDI interfaces designed for NeXT are available from
several companies including Pinnacle Research (info@pri.com). I have no
affiliation with Opcode or Pinnacle.
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier |
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Time is just one damn thing after another.
NeXTmail capable! |
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gday@merengue.mpr.ca (Gordon Day)
Subject: Megapixel Monitor occasionally doesn't light up on boot
Message-ID: <GDAY.93Oct25150001@merengue.mpr.ca>
Sender: news@mprgate.mpr.ca
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: comp
Date: 25 Oct 93 15:00:01
About once every 4 or 5 times I power up my NeXTStation Color, my
monitor doesn't turn on. I believe that may not be related to the
monitor, however, as the machine doesn't react to the keyboard
properly (e.g. I can't blindly bring up the NMI monitor and reboot
it). When this happens I have no choice but to pull the plug. The
machine always boots up correctly after I do this. Any ideas?
Ta,
Gordon.
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Perpetual OD Drive Trouble
Date: 26 Oct 1993 00:53:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ahsf6$k91@agate.berkeley.edu>
Okay, I tried Bell Atlantic's suggestions and haven't gotten anywhere.
My optical disk drive has failed, but it doesn't seem to be terribly sick.
Upon insertion of an optical disk, it starts up, spins the disk as if
normal, tries two or three more times, and then outputs the following:
od0? Disk not up to speed (0:0:0) Block 0 phys error -66384
ej works. The system neither crashes or even blinks, and diagnostics
brings up this exact same message, and I failed to boot off an optical
disk as well. Like I said, it doesn't seem to be terribly ill, just can't
read anything.
Before I take the plunge and purchase a new OD drive unit, does anyone
have any ideas on how to repair it? I've looked at NeXTanswers and none
of their suggestions worked either.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: zeno@abstractsoft.com (Sean T. Lamont)
Subject: Re: Use NextLaser with a Mac?
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.014205.21628@coco.ms.washington.edu>
Sender: news@coco.ms.washington.edu (C-news admin)
Organization: Abstract Software
References: <cshramko.1101959451A@bbn.com> <CFGzLC.At9@lotus.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 01:42:05 GMT
In article <CFGzLC.At9@lotus.com> bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon) writes:
>
>IPT sells a package that lets you configure a NeXT to act as a Macintosh
>Printer server. Unfortunately NeXT doesn't speak LocalTalk so you'll need an
>Ethernet card in your Macintosh -- and you'll have to fire up the NeXT and its
>printer every time you want to print from the Mac.
>
>I had a similar problem to yours but decided on a more drastic solution -- I
>sold my NeXT Laser printer and replaced it with an HP LaserJet 4M. It supports
>serial, parallel and AppleTalk interfaces simultaneously. It handles printing
>from NeXT, PC-Clone and Macintosh without requiring a network or additional
>software.
You can also do this with CAP. Though again, if you have just a
localtalk connection you're a bit out of luck on the hardware end.
Another plus of using CAP is that you can mount NeXT volumes on the
mac desktop.
--
Sean T. Lamont | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts
Abstract Software | Professional collection for NeXT
lamont@abstractsoft.com |____________________________________
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 25 Oct 1993 23:54:01 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2ai70m$787@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
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From: szallies@zehn.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Constantin Szallies (PG234))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Grayscale monitors?
Date: 26 Oct 1993 09:51:43 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Sender: szallies@zehn (Constantin Szallies (PG234))
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2airvf$71b@fbi-news.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>
Hi, everybody! I am looking for a grayscale monitor that is larger than 14"
and smaller than 21". I have a hard time looking for such a product -- it
seems to have vanished from the market :-(
Or am I wrong?
Constantin Szallies } szallies@kunibert.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
Simrockstr.50 {
40235 Duesseldorf } Be there ... or loose your hair
Tel. 49/211/682316 {
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Fujitsu M2694ESA 1.08G works for NeXT black ?
Message-ID: <CFHsLn.D70@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 06:56:11 GMT
Title says. Further, should I low level format it to 1K/block ?
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dylan@Angst.COM (Dylan Kohler)
Subject: NeXT docs for sale
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.000215.9926@Angst.COM>
Sender: dylan@Angst.COM
Organization: Angst Animation Post Production
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 00:02:15 GMT
2.1 DOCS FOR SALE
NeXTstep Reference, Volume 1
NeXTstep Reference, Volume 2
NeXTstep Concepts
Network and System Administration
Writing Loadable Kernel Servers
Applications
Setup and Tutorials
User's Reference
Operating System Software
Development Tools
$30 + shipping (or best offer).
--
___________________________________
Dylan Kohler
Angst Animation Post Production
dylan@angst.com (NeXTmail welcome)
From: mtie@carleton.edu (Michael Tie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2694ESA
Date: 26 Oct 1993 14:46:58 GMT
Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA
Message-ID: <2ajd92$qao@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu>
References: <2ac8q3$bol@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu>
After using BuildDisk.app on my Fujitsu M2694ESA hard drive, I was getting
the following error message when I tried to boot off of it:
> NeXT>b
> Boot Command: sd
> boot sd(0,0,0)
> SCSI unexpected mesg:1
> sc: Unexpected msg
The problem turned out to be that I needed to TURN OFF "Synchronous data
transfer". ie, I needed to toggle "switch 6" on "SW1" to OFF.
A couple of people suggested that I set the drive to SCSI ID 1, so that I
can boot off an external disk (set to id 0) if I ever need to in the
future.
Wow, did I get a ton of replies from people with suggestions on how to fix
my hard drive. Many thanks to Matthew Seaman, Brendan T. McNichols,
Eugene D. Myers, Stuart Ritchie, Andrew S. Townley, and Jamey K. Hovey
for their suggestions.
Mike Tie mtie@carleton.edu
Math/CS 507-663-4067
Carleton College
From: jonesc@tsunami
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI driver for the Intel/GX
Date: 26 Oct 93 09:29:27
Organization: Intel Corporation
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <jonesc.93Oct2692927@tsunami>
References: <1993Oct25.165759.4567@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Yes, there is a SCSI driver for NEXTSTEP 3.1 on the pro/gx. However, it is a BETA driver and I don't expect to release it for general use because 3.1 doesn't support "boot drivers" -- so, you can't use the 3.1 pro/gx SCSI driver to install NEXTSTEP.
I have finished modifying the 3.1 beta driver for 3.2. With 3.2, this new driver will work as a "boot driver" so it will function just like one of the built-in SCSI drivers (like the Adaptec 1542X) -- you can install 3.2 with this driver by loading it at install time from a floppy. This driver will be available when 3.2 is released.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hakimian@haney.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff)
Subject: memory for turbo slab
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.155359.18815@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Keywords: memory turbo
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 15:53:59 GMT
We would like to upgrade one of our turbo slabs from 16MEG to 32MEG.
What kind of memory is needed to do this?
How much should I expect to pay for this?
Thanks for your time.
--
Karl Hakimian
hakimian@eecs.wsu.edu
From: diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx (Diego Martin Zamboni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Modems and SLIP on NS/FIP?
Date: 26 Oct 1993 17:23:34 GMT
Organization: UNIVERSIDAD NACIONAL AUTONOMA DE MEXICO
Message-ID: <2ajmem$en0@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Hi all:
I'm looking now for a system to run NS/FIP on. I don't have an inter-
net connection, so my access will be via SLIP. So I have two questions:
1) What modems do work with NS/FIP? The HW compatibility guide doesn't tell
anything.
2) Is there any SLIP software available for NS/FIP? (preferably somewhere
on the net).
Thanks a lot!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gibraltar!wiley (Wiley S. Hodges)
Subject: NTSC Video Output?
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.171435.2767@lighthouse.com>
Keywords: video, NTSC, composite
Sender: wiley@lighthouse.com
Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 17:14:35 GMT
Citizens and denizens of NetLand:
I need your help. I'm looking for information on hardware devices for
NEXTSTEP-compatible Intel machines which would give me the ability to
output to composite video. One of two ways would be fine:
1. Output to composite video using NXLiveVideoView a la NeXTDimension
boards.
-OR-
2. Output the entire display to composite video via some sync rate
conversion, etc.
Your help is immensely appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
--Wiley
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Lighthouse Design, Ltd. NeXTMail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu ()
Subject: Can I turn on/off the sound from the command-line?
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.174404.6180@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 17:44:04 GMT
Hello:
(Forgive me is this is irrelavant to this group; I wasn't sure which to
post to)
We have a NeXTStation running as a server for a time-card punching control
system. In addition to reading from the magnetic card reader and displaying
to a terminal the user's "punch status" (which it is currently doing fine),
it should be sounding a signal for the workers at punch-in and punch-out
times. We currently have an old XT with our PA system wired to the speaker
and a simple program to make the sounds. Obviously, we would like to
eliminate the need for this machine, but haven't figured out how yet.
The problem with using the NeXT (which, even though it is a server, get's
fairly frequently) is that in addition to the scheduled "beeps", all the
other sounds come through the system. We tried having the users set their
defaults to "mute" out sounds, but then the desired punch beeps don't go
through either.
I thought I had a solution by making a little script to go through at the
right time and "dwrite" the sound "on", make the sound, and then "dwrite"
the sound back off again. But it doesn't work. Of course, this is
dependant on who is logged in (which in itself could be worked around) -
but even with the correct scripting it didn't work. dread shows that the
sound is turned on, but still no sound.
So, the question is: is there any way to achieve our desired effect, or
are we just plain out of luck? It seems ridiculous to me to have to run
another machine to do this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
- Jim
wissner@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
From: Architecture Account <aa99+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542CF problems
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 14:33:56 -0400
Organization: Departmental account, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ggnKqIm00iV1E7EdQT@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <93293.150044U21709@uicvm.uic.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 20-Oct-93 Adaptec 1542CF
problems by Prasad Ravi@uicvm.uic.ed
> I've noticed some postings recently on the 1542CF being
> incompatible with NeXTSTEP - wondering if they got
> resolved?? Is NeXT currently providing support for
> this or will it be included in 3.2??
>
This is only my 2-cent experience. I had enormous amount of errors when
I tried to install NS 3.1 educational bundle on my 486/50. I tried
every combination of configuration and no luck. The installation hung
at ramdom places, mostly at "Boot Device..", or with Read Error on
Reading CD-Rom. Finally I turned over the CD-ROM any saw that it was
not shinning like a CD-ROM should be. There was a thin coat of oil (or
whatever) on it. I wiped it out with CD cleaning fluid that I bought
from a record store and tried again. And the installation went right
through.
The machine is equipped with an Adaptec 1542B SCSI Controller, Maxtor
535MB SCSI HD (at #0), Archive Viper 150MB TD (#4), Apple CD300 (Sony
CDU8003 #6), 40MB RAM, on-board WD90c30 w/512KB VGA, an Intel
EtherExpress16, and both 3.5 and 5.25" floppies.
Hope this helps.
-Robert Tseng
Computing Facilities Manager
Carnegie Mellon University, Dept. of Architecture
CFA201, 5000 Forbes Ave., Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890
operator@arc.cmu.edu, (412) 268-6422
From: rogata@is-next.umd.edu (Richard Scott Ogata)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI Boot Errors
Date: 26 Oct 1993 18:30:17 GMT
Organization: University Of Maryland, College Park, MD
Message-ID: <2ajqbp$60i@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <2ac8q3$bol@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> <2ajd92$qao@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu>
In article <2ajd92$qao@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> mtie@carleton.edu writes:
>Wow, did I get a ton of replies from people with suggestions on how to fix
>my hard drive. Many thanks to Matthew Seaman, Brendan T. McNichols,
>Eugene D. Myers, Stuart Ritchie, Andrew S. Townley, and Jamey K. Hovey
>for their suggestions.
Well, given your luck at finding an answer, I'll post my own question
about disk errors.
When booting, shortly after the machine accesses the SCSI disk and
get its label, the booting process pauses for about 30 seconds, and I get the
following error messages:
Oct 25 12:28:25 next163 mach: EATA interrupt: bad status 9
Oct 25 12:28:25 next163 mach: Resetting SCSI Bus...
repeating 4 times.
Configuration is:
Dell 4560/XE
DPT 2012-B EISA SCSI Adapter
SMC EtherCard Plus Elite 16 Ethernet Adapter
ATI Ultra Pro Display Adapter
ProAudioSpectrum 16
PS/2 Mouse
Screen Machine II frame capture card
Any clues where I should look for the cause of this?
Rich Ogata
rogata@arpa.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: low level format on Fujitsu 520MB
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.194310.8352@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 19:43:10 GMT
Is there software somewhere to do a lowlevel format
on this drive. The drive is in my NeXTStation. I'm
thinking about changing the block size.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: miron@extropia.wimsey.com (Miron Cuperman)
Subject: Question regarding Archive DAT
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.184134.1719@extropia.wimsey.com>
Organization: Immortal Freedom's Deck
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 18:41:34 GMT
I recently got a DAT tape drive, made by Archive. I am using
it on a NeXT. The SCSI ID for the drive is:
ARCHIVE Python 27216-XXX Rev as st0 at sc0 target 4 lun 0
I am having problems reading tapes that I have written. I consistently
get the following at the same point on the tape:
Oct 25 22:51:03 xtropia mach: reselect timeout - target 4
Oct 25 22:51:03 xtropia mach: st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 5H
Oct 25 22:51:03 xtropia mach: st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H
Oct 25 22:51:03 xtropia mach: Sense key = 0x6 Sense Code = 0x29
Oct 25 22:51:03 xtropia mach: st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = dH
Oct 25 22:51:03 xtropia last message repeated 9 times
Oct 25 22:52:42 xtropia mach: st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H
Oct 25 22:52:42 xtropia mach: Sense key = 0x0 Sense Code = 0x0
Oct 25 22:52:43 xtropia mach: st: cmd = 0x8 sr_io_status = 2H
Oct 25 22:52:43 xtropia mach: Sense key = 0x0 Sense Code = 0x0
The problem manifests itself as follows:
1. The amber light starts flashing on and off.
2. After a while, the light stops and the tape rewinds.
3. I then get the timeout and the errors. The 'tar' command fails
saying that there were too many errors.
Is this drive defective? Or is there some incompatibility between the
NeXT and the drive? It does work some of the time.
Any help will be appreciated.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Subject: NeXT Printers for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.202031.14870@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 20:20:31 GMT
Are the black and white printers still available for black NeXT hardware?
If so, where can I order one from? Preferably from some place that will
accept purchase orders.
And if the BW printers aren't around anymore, where can I get the NeXT
colour printer? I assume it works on black hardware. Would anyone
recommend it? Is it worth it?
Thanks alot for any info!
Eugene Mah
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grad student/sys admin "For I am a Bear of Very
Department of Radiology Little Brain, and
University of Alberta Hospitals long words bother me."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Subject: DAT Drives for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.205026.16070@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 20:50:26 GMT
Apologies if this is an oft seen question, but
I'm looking for DAT drives that I can use on my black NeXTs. The 2 GB DAT
drives are preferable, but I'll settle for lower. The NeXTs are non-turbo
colour stations, if that makes any difference. Does anyone have any
recommendations on what type of DAT drives to get? Are there specific
drives that will work on the NeXT?
Thanks for any info!
Eugene Mah
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grad student/sys admin "For I am a Bear of Very
Department of Radiology Little Brain, and
University of Alberta Hospitals long words bother me."
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Winnie the Pooh
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Christian Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Several Questions on NS/FIP Config
Date: 26 Oct 1993 21:10:57 GMT
Organization: The Gnomes of Zurich (shhh!)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ak3p1$j1i@news.intercon.com>
Ok, I got it working on my Win 486 DX2 with a Diamond Stealth Pro VLocal
Bus video card with 1meg VRam. But, I have NO CLUE as to how to get
anything else other then 640x480 grey scale which is what I am getting
now. Can anybody give me a hand with what to do?
I am thinking about getting an ATI UltraPro VLoval Bus card with 2megs of
VRam but in the mean time....
Also, what are the preferences on Ethernet cards?
--
Christian Smith
aka Blackplague
PGP Public Key available by finger or request.
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI driver for the Intel/GX
Date: 26 Oct 1993 21:33:42 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2ak53n$8lg@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <1993Oct25.165759.4567@doug.cae.wisc.edu> <jonesc.93Oct2692927@tsunami>
I bought an Intel GX/Pro with a DPT EISA card (no cache/RAM installed).
[1] How does the DPT compare to the onboard SCSI? In
particular, is it more reliable or faster (on-board rather
than over-bus)?
[2] Because my SCSI chain becomes less reliable when there are
more than 3 external devices, I wonder if I can run the DPT
and the internal cards simultaneously under NS. This would
presumably increase the reliability to allow me to hook up to
5 or 6 devices into my NeXT---ooops, Intel GX/Pro.
/ivo welch
jonesc@tsunami wrote:
: Yes, there is a SCSI driver for NEXTSTEP 3.1 on the pro/gx. However, it is a BETA driver and I don't expect to release it for general use because 3.1 doesn't support "boot drivers" -- so, you can't use the 3.1 pro/gx SCSI driver to install NEXTSTEP.
: I have finished modifying the 3.1 beta driver for 3.2. With 3.2, this new driver will work as a "boot driver" so it will function just like one of the built-in SCSI drivers (like the Adaptec 1542X) -- you can install 3.2 with this driver by loading it at install time from a floppy. This driver will be available when 3.2 is released.
: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
: Cory A. Jones jonesc@tsunami.intel.com (NeXT Mail accepted)
: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: atownley@cs.umr.edu (Andrew S. Townley)
Subject: Monitors (yes again... sorry :)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 21:24:41 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University
Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Administration)
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.212441.23167@umr.edu>
I remember, and even printed the list of evaluations for monitors for NS
I, but of all things, I lost it. If someone could forward the original summary, I'd appreciate it.
I was also wondring about a couple of specific monitors
Sony's 17" 1604S Know anything? specs?
Mitsubishi 20" opinions?
NEC's 5FG,e " "
Samsung Syncmaster5 17" " "
Sony GDM-1950 19"
Sony GVM-2000 20"
Hitachi CM1785 17"
Any info on any of the above would be appreciated as my old PC monitor is on its way out.
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
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1705 Pine Street FAX: 314-364-8471
Rolla, MO 65401 email: atownley@cs.umr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: glen@netcom.com (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: Drivers for Numbre 9 GXE level 12
Message-ID: <glenCFIxJM.HB9@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 21:40:18 GMT
I was told by a dealer that the Number 9 gxe board (S3) is supported under the new S3 driver. Can anyone verify this.. Hows the performance and does it support
1024x768 16bit color???
-steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: baker@keeper.journalism.indiana.edu (Don Baker)
Subject: Compaq PageMarq 20
Message-ID: <CFJ4B6.7ow@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Keywords: printers
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 00:06:41 GMT
Has anyone hung a Compaq PageMarq20 on their LAN using Compaq's ethernet
adaptor and TCP/IP? Specifically how well does this printer handle print jobs
from NeXTSTEP computers?
The specs look impressive for this printer, it can output ps files at over 6
ppg, print on up to 11 x 17 paper, and do it at 800 x 400 dpi resolution. It
also has a 1500 sheet paper tray and uses a Xerox print engine rated at 12K
pages.
It would be good to know if there is a driver for this printer on the NeXT that
works. Also how easy is it get fonts loaded onto the printer (with and with
out the hard drive option).
I spoke to a technician at Compaq who told me that they have tested this
printer with NeXTSTEP and have certified it. Can and should this be
believed???
--
Don Baker
Technical Services Coordinator
IU School of Journalism
Tel: (812) 855-4918
baker@journalism.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bau@cs.cornell.edu (David Bau)
Subject: Organizing Gateway 2000 users of Nextstep
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.234032.22299@cs.cornell.edu>
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 23:40:32 GMT
Nextstep users who run on a Gateway box are the select few, the brave,
the proud... But increasingly we're feeling a little isolated, and
sheer bravery and pride don't seem to suffice to get a system running
smoothly.
Since Gateway does not know anything about Nextstep, and the folks at
NeXT can't keep compatibility information up to date with a quick and
nimble clonemaker like Gateway, I thought it might be useful to
organize and share information among Nextstep/Gateway users.
For example, who knows which ATI Graphics Ultra Pro variant really
works best under Nextstep? What happens next week when ATI releases
Yet Another Chipset? Which CD ROM players work with Gateway and
Nextstep? Has anybody installed a sound card that works? Why do
machines fail to boot up sometimes; is something configured wrong?
Why doesn't my new high speed modem work?
NeXT won't answer these questions unless we pay. Gateway can't answer
these questions at all. But all of us users seem to be going through
the same process, over and over again, so invariably some of us can
answer these questions for each other!
Therefore, I'd like to put together a mailing list of Nextstep Gateway
users. I'm willing to initially collect and share email addresses,
but I don't have the expertise to set up any fancy automated
listserver or any such thing. Anybody else willing to help?
If you're interested in being on the list, send me a note, and in a
week or two, I'll send you all back a list of all the email addresses
and a summary of any interesting Nextstep/Gateway comments I've gotten.
Hope to hear from you all.
David Bau
bau@cs.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: olivierl@rb-csd.SanDiego.NCR.COM ()
Subject: SIMMs
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.221645.772@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>
Sender: news@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (News Owner)
Organization: PM&S San Diego
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 22:16:45 GMT
I have memory SIMMs for PCs (1Mox9) : can I use them for a NeXT CUBE ?
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From: olivierl@rb-csd.SanDiego.NCR.COM ()
Subject: SIMMs
Message-ID: <1993Oct26.225438.7144@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>
Sender: news@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (News Owner)
Organization: PM&S San Diego
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 22:54:38 GMT
Regarding the SIMMs 1Mox9 for PCs : can I use these for my NeXT CUBE ?
Same question for the 4Mo SIMMs for PCs.
Thanks.
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From: jcd@aladdin.aero.org (John C Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help?cant upgrade system?
Date: 27 Oct 1993 03:04:06 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Message-ID: <2akof6$9tn@news.aero.org>
Keywords: upgrade, builddisk, 3.1
Orginal Configuration: 030 cube, Optical Disk, NS 2.1
Upgrade Configuration: 25 Mhz 040 board, Quantam PD700s 700 Mbyte hard
drive, internal floppy disk , Apple CD300 cdrom drive, NS 3.1 developer on
cd rom.
1. Using the boot floppy from 3.1 and the CD rom drive and the 040 mother
board configuration to try to build my hard disk, the peripherials are
recognized (the disk name, cd rom drive name and the 3.1 developer disk
appear in the intial boot up sequence), but after building the disk from
stratch the moniter says "sc: message REJECT RECEIVED" numerous times.
Next it returns "This is going to be a build from scratch? yes or no. And
then there are several other questions about the installation. Once these
are done and the disk is initialized the upgrade process begins. I can
see the CD drive reading and the hard disk attempting to write. It starts
by writing usr/standalone/boot but it never successfully completes this
procedure. The reading writing sequence goes on for several minutes but
never gets past usr/standalone/boot.
2. Next an attempt was made to build a disk using a 2.1 optical to the
hard drive and the orginal 030 motherboard. The build was successful, but
when the default device was changed to the hard disk for bootup the system
would not boot up all the way and eventually went into the mini mach
window.
3. Using the 040 motherboard the system would not boot up completly using
2.1 from the optical. the system checks were successful but the login
panel would not come up only the mouse. The system will boot up in single
user mode. The same OD would boot up correctly with the 030 board
installed.
I have checked the SCSI termination and I think it is correct.
I would like to hear any recommended trouble shooting procedures I should
use.
John Davis
jcd@aladdin.aero.org ( NeXT Mail Welcome)
310 336-5423 w
310 595-9651 h
From: Bill.Wolf@f120.n11.z1.Chigate.chigate.com (Bill Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP Video Hardware
Message-ID: <751701575.AA00250@Chigate.chigate.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 20:22:00
I've been holding off buying NS for my dx2-66 as I'm waiting for the
'perfect' video board to buy. Anyone have any suggestions? Vesa LB
that is.
I heard that some company is writing drivers for Diamond's Viper
board. Are those out yet?
And what is the 'users' recommended ram requirements for running
NS/FIP?
I've got 16 megs, but from the sound of it, that might be just
enought. But more would be better..
Thanks,
Bill
* Origin: UTI - Always on tap! 16.8k Dual (815) 942-2930 (1:11/120)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach)
Subject: EtherlinkIII trouble
Message-ID: <1993Oct27.082412.9091@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 08:24:12 GMT
Hi folks!
I've got a NS/FIP machine using AMI BIOS, 256K cache,
Intel DX2/66 processor, 16MB ram, 1.2gig Toshiba SCSI
HD, Sony 541 CD-ROM drive, 1.44 floppy, ATI Ultra Pro
VLB with 2MB VRAM, ProAudio 16 sound card, Adaptec 1542B
SCSI card, and an Etherlink III network card.
Everything about the system works like a charm, except
for the network card, which takes between 80 and 140
seconds to send a packet three feet over coax ethernet
to another machine. Well, it really doesn't seem to
matter how far away the other machine is; the ICMP
reply times are in the 80000 to 140000 range, with
75-95% packet loss rates. I've used the 3com test
program that comes with the card to check for conflicts,
and I've tried other settings to see if it might be
and odd conflict. I've even replaced the card. Still
no better luck.
Currently, it's set to IRQ 10, base address 300.
Anybody seen this problem before? Even if you haven't
yet fixed it, please let me know, so I don't feel so
much like I'm screaming in the dark at this problem. :-)
Thanks!
Matt Petach
tired, dazed, and confused.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: larry@owrlakh.wl.aecl.ca (Larry Gadallah)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2694ESA
Message-ID: <1993Oct27.125208.26735@cu23.crl.aecl.ca>
Keywords: Fujitsu M2694ESA boot disk synchronous SCSI
Sender: news@cu23.crl.aecl.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: AECL-Research
References: <2ac8q3$bol@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 12:52:08 GMT
In article <2ac8q3$bol@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu> mtie@carleton.edu (Michael Tie)
writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to install Fujitsu M2694ESA (3.5" 1.2 GB SCSI Hard disk) into a
> next cube as a boot disk. The cube has a 25 MHz 68040 processor, OD, and
> external NeXT CD-ROM.
>
> I've installed the drive into the cube; I booted off of the network; and
> I used BuildDisk to format and install the operating system (NS 3.0). If
> I boot off of the net, then the hard drive shows up fine on /dev/sd0a, and
> all of the standard files are there... The problem is that when I try to
> boot off of the new hard drive I see:
>
> NeXT>b
> Boot Command: sd
> boot sd(0,0,0)
> SCSI unexpected mesg:1
> sc: Unexpected msg
> ...
>
> I've looked at fujitsu.recipe (a document out on cs.orst.edu); it
> suggested running "scsimodes /dev/rsd0a", so I did, but it didn't help.
> It also suggests setting the HD scsi address to 1, so I did, and I still
> see the above error message. (by the way, the default address on the disk
> was 0; with the disk at 0, I also received the above error)
>
> I've tried the HD as scsi address 0 and 1, the CD-ROM is at 2. I left the
> terminator on the HD, and I have a terminator on the outside of the CD-ROM
> box...
>
> Anyone have any clues?
>
> Any help that you can provide would be appreciated.
>
> -Mike Tie mtie@carleton.edu
> Math/CS 507-663-4067
> Carleton College
Make sure that you have disabled synchronous mode operation (I can't
remember which of the DIP switches shuts it off, #6 I think). Once
you do this, everything should sail along fine. I installed a 2694
in my cube about a month ago.
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From: larry@owrlakh.wl.aecl.ca (Larry Gadallah)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu M2694ESA 1.08G works for NeXT black ?
Message-ID: <1993Oct27.125321.26890@cu23.crl.aecl.ca>
Sender: news@cu23.crl.aecl.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: AECL-Research
References: <CFHsLn.D70@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 12:53:21 GMT
In article <CFHsLn.D70@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk> skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee
(Graduate Assistant)) writes:
> Title says. Further, should I low level format it to 1K/block ?
>
> Mr.WONG Sai Kee
> Graduate Student
Yep, it does work, with 1k blocks it formats out to 1094 Mb.
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From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Question regarding Archive DAT
Message-ID: <94288@cup.portal.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 05:42:29 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
References: <1993Oct26.184134.1719@extropia.wimsey.com>
In article <1993Oct26.184134.1719@extropia.wimsey.com>
miron@extropia.wimsey.com (Miron Cuperman) writes:
| I recently got a DAT tape drive, made by Archive. I am using
| it on a NeXT. The SCSI ID for the drive is:
| [...]
| I am having problems reading tapes that I have written. I consistently
| get the following at the same point on the tape:
| [...]
| The problem manifests itself as follows:
|
| 1. The amber light starts flashing on and off.
| 2. After a while, the light stops and the tape rewinds.
| 3. I then get the timeout and the errors. The 'tar' command fails
| saying that there were too many errors.
|
| Is this drive defective? Or is there some incompatibility between the
| NeXT and the drive? It does work some of the time.
|
| Any help will be appreciated.
Every run a DAT head cleaning tape through the drive? Chances are very
good that doing so will clear up your problems. All you need to do is
insert the cleaning tape and the drive will recognize it and do its own
automatic cleaning then eject the tape.
Be _SURE_ to use a cleaning tape designed for data storage drives, such as
the Maxell HS-4/CL "4mm Cleaning Cartridge for Data Storage Devices". Sony
and others make similar cleaning tapes.
Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com, thad@cup.portal.com, thad@netcom.com ]
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1993 08:44:20 MET
From: OCS@earn.cvut.cs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: BusLogic VL-Bus SCSI Driver?
Message-ID: <16C727714.OCS@earn.cvut.cs>
Organization: VC CVUT
References: <29uo9i$549@scratchy.reed.edu>
Hi Robert,
In article <29uo9i$549@scratchy.reed.edu>
rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour) writes:
>I have a system I am trying to set up that has a BusLogic VL-Bus SCSI adapter.
>I have heard that there is no driver for this board, although one is in the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As far as I know, you are right.
>works. Do any of you know of a driver that will work with this board (whether
^^^^^
Yes, I and my friend are working on driver for BusLogic BT-445S VL-Bus adapter.
At this time we are waiting for NS release 3.2,since 3.2 supports boot-drivers.
This means that you can have only BT-445S in the computer. On the other hand
in 3.1 you must have one from officially supported drivers (i.e. Adaptec
or DPT) to be able to boot NeXTSTEP.
>intended or not)?
Tomas Hurka
DATA.30
From: shukin@jester.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: low level format on Fujitsu 520MB
Date: 27 Oct 1993 18:18:35 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <2ame1r$b30@tribune.usask.ca>
References: <1993Oct26.194310.8352@sol.UVic.CA>
Greg Toews (gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA) wrote:
: Is there software somewhere to do a lowlevel format
: on this drive. The drive is in my NeXTStation. I'm
: thinking about changing the block size.
Can the Block Size og the 2624 be changed? I am just wondering? If it
turns out that it can be, could you post it here?
Thanks
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Voice: (306) 933-6415 | NeXTMail--> not yet: I am working on it.
Internet address: shukin@siast.sk.ca OR shukin@jester.usask.ca
______________________________________________________________________________
From: gogele@walker303-17.its.rpi.edu (Edward D. Gogel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.other
Subject: NeXt Color Printer For Sale
Date: 27 Oct 1993 20:33:32 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2amlut$ea3@usenet.rpi.edu>
Keywords: printer, next
-> NeXt InkJet color printer for sale. <-
Brand new - right from the factory - full warranty. (won in drawing at Unix Expo '93).
I believe this printer is the same as the Canon BJ820C except for the name & case.
Price - best offer over $1100.00
Please email me or call me if interested (518-276-4723) Leave a message if I'm not there and I'll get back to you ASAP.
Ed Gogel (gogele@rpi.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: Re: low level format on Fujitsu 520MB
Message-ID: <1993Oct27.195822.22474@sol.UVic.CA>
Sender: news@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria
References: <2ame1r$b30@tribune.usask.ca>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 93 19:58:22 GMT
Geoff Shukin writes
> Greg Toews (gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA) wrote:
>
> : Is there software somewhere to do a lowlevel format
> : on this drive. The drive is in my NeXTStation. I'm
> : thinking about changing the block size.
>
> Can the Block Size og the 2624 be changed? I am just wondering? If it
> turns out that it can be, could you post it here?
>
> Thanks
>
The block size is either 512 or 1024 bytes per sector. Using 1024 instead
of 512 frees up about 30MB of disk space (500 MB drive). This is because a
certain amount of disk space is used up to manage each sector and there are
obviously half the number of sectors when you change from 512 to 1024.
Since NeXT's file system has a minimum allocation size of 1024 bytes
the same amount of space is lost (for either block size) when a block
is partially filled.
ie. A 1025 byte file will take up 2 1024 byte blocks or 4 512 byte
blocks. IF NeXTs allocation size was 512 bytes then a 1025
byte file would take 2 1024 byte blocks or 3 512 byte blocks.
If this were the case then there would be a tradeoff between
lost space due to sector management and gained space with smaller
wasted spaces on the disk.
The block size can be changed by doing a low level format on the drive.
I was told that there are two programs that will do this
scsi Formatter by Rory Bolt (filename is: formatter)
scsi tools (scsitools or scsitools2)
Both should be available at one of the NeXT ftp sites
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Fast '040 upgrades
Message-ID: <CFJIKG.20r@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 05:14:40 GMT
Sixty Eight Thousand Inc. just released a product called
68oh50!
It's an upgrade for a Mac Quadra that replaces the existing CPU.
It uses a Peltier cooling system.
I wonder if it will work in a NeXT?
Oh, I forgot, it's not cheap; $2500.
Now if it were an '060 for that price, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
This is what happen when you have nothing to do and read
MacWeek.
Kent
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From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Video Hardware
Message-ID: <CFK9w8.10y@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
References: <751701575.AA00250@Chigate.chigate.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 15:04:55 GMT
In article <751701575.AA00250@Chigate.chigate.com>
Bill.Wolf@f120.n11.z1.Chigate.chigate.com (Bill Wolf) writes:
> I've been holding off buying NS for my dx2-66 as I'm waiting for the
> 'perfect' video board to buy. Anyone have any suggestions? Vesa LB
> that is.
>
I just saw the ultimate video board running NS, it was doing 1,400 x 1,200 at
16 bit color. It was a S3 based 928 card in a NEC Image 486es (not just yet
released) in the local bus "NEC opti-bus" slot. It was smoother than a NS
Turbo Color when dragging windows. The board is not made by NEC, but they are
thinking of licensing it... I was told tentative price was in the $1,000 range.
It was awesome to say the least.
That's my idea of a perfect video card, as soon as I find a place to obtain it
you can guess what will be driving my monitor :-)
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From: nyse@nice.delme.north.de (Hermann Behrens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTStation without fan?
Message-ID: <nyse.751570571@nice>
Date: 25 Oct 93 17:36:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: nice.nyse.751570571
Organization: NICE DELmenhorst, Germany
I've a NeXTStation which I would like to use without its fan. Perhaps
I'm to sensitive, but I would like to live without these noises ...
Are there any problems known? The internal disk is in another room, no
heat-problem with this kind of hardware ..
ciao, Hermann Behrens
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTStation without fan?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 20:18:54 -0400
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <sgnkziq00WB5MUYoUY@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <nyse.751570571@nice>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 25-Oct-93 NeXTStation
without fan? by Hermann Behrens@nice.del
> I've a NeXTStation which I would like to use without its fan. Perhaps
> I'm to sensitive, but I would like to live without these noises ...
> Are there any problems known? The internal disk is in another room, no
> heat-problem with this kind of hardware ..
I have heard from a former employee at NeXT that you will in fact burn
out your motherboard if you try to run your machine without the fan or
with the cover off.
Do what you like, of course, but I wouldn't recommend experimenting with
this. ;-)
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*crunch*! | 1. You can't fly.
------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@mon.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: advice on cable/software for a PLI Cubefloppy
Date: 27 Oct 1993 23:41:52 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <2anm30$34p@triton.unm.edu>
Hi, folks. Sorry for the boring old black hardware question, but I still
love my NeXT hardware.
Someone's gifted me with a PLI Cubefloppy sans software or cable. It says
1.44 on the outside, but the drive inside looks like a 2.88 (it has a sensor
for a 2.88). The back has two DB25's instead of standard SCSI connectors,
and I didn't want to blow a SCSI port with the wrong cable. Initially the
drive will be plugged into an 030 cube. Does anyone know if the cable is
straight through, or does it have differences?
I would expect the drive to work without drivers, but is there any software
that might come in handy later? I assume possession of the drive licenses
me for the software...
Anyway, I'd appreciate any advice that anyone can give me. Thanks in advance,
and good luck on your white hardware exploits.
Dave Klingler
klingler@triton.unm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
Subject: Metheus Premier 928 Video Card and NEXTSTEP/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Oct28.002233.3909@joker.fdn.org>
Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org
Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France.
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 00:22:33 GMT
Tonight, I have tried to use the Premier 928 Video Card with NS/FIP 3.1
It seems to be a no-go.
The card is a PRM 928 VL4 (S3-928 based Local Bus card w/ 4 MB VRAM)
The PC was a clone : UMC Chipset (I think...) 486 DX2/66 ISA/LocalBus
16/500 (AH 1542C, Bus Mouse, PA 16 16550 Serial & // card)
In SVGA Mode (640x480x2) it crashes every so often (system freezes or back
to 'ROM Monitor' with no messages or a RDP exeception). In 1024x768x16 or
1280x1024x16 it crashes even more often (same symptoms) even though you
sometime as far as playing BoinkOut for 30 seconds or so...
I will pursue my experiemnt tomorrow...
I'll let yall know.
P.S. : This third party S3-928 card is not officially supported by NeXT
Ed.
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From: t146678@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Tuominen Juha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTStation without fan?
Date: 28 Oct 1993 09:53:47 +0200
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2antqb$di1@cc.tut.fi>
References: <sgnkziq00WB5MUYoUY@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <sgnkziq00WB5MUYoUY@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 25-Oct-93 NeXTStation
>without fan? by Hermann Behrens@nice.del
>I have heard from a former employee at NeXT that you will in fact burn
>out your motherboard if you try to run your machine without the fan or
>with the cover off.
This is absolutely correct. One of the hottest parts of the board
among the CPU is the display controller (The chip on the right upper corner
with a huge passive cooling element on). There's so small amount of air
in the case that it's not cabable of cooling the electronics enough without
an external air-flow. The fan is absolutely necessary. The power supplier will
also blow up if the temperature gets too high.
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From: pclark@is.com (Pete Clark)
Subject: NEC 3x-speed CD-ROM drives
Message-ID: <CFLMCI.1E5@is.com>
Sender: pclark@is.com (Pete Clark)
Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 08:31:30 GMT
Has anyone used one of the new NEC 3x-speed drives on black hardware? Actually,
has anyone used the 2x-speed drives? I'd be interested in hearing about any
success and/or failure stories before I buy one.
Best,
Pete Clark
pclark@is.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca (Dennis S. Breckenridge)
Subject: Re: EtherlinkIII trouble
References: <1993Oct27.082412.9091@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: "Alchemy Mindworks"
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 23:27:45 GMT
Message-ID: <CFKx6A.9sy@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>
mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach) writes:
>Hi folks!
>I've got a NS/FIP machine using AMI BIOS, 256K cache,
>Intel DX2/66 processor, 16MB ram, 1.2gig Toshiba SCSI
>HD, Sony 541 CD-ROM drive, 1.44 floppy, ATI Ultra Pro
>VLB with 2MB VRAM, ProAudio 16 sound card, Adaptec 1542B
>SCSI card, and an Etherlink III network card.
>Anybody seen this problem before? Even if you haven't
>yet fixed it, please let me know, so I don't feel so
>much like I'm screaming in the dark at this problem. :-)
I have a NS/FIP 3.1 machine with AMI BIOS, 256k cache,
Intel 486 DX2/66, 16 megs 60ns ram, 1.1 gigs of Fujitsu
2266a, Toshiba 3401, Adaptec 1542B, and a 3C509 card as
well.
I cannot put this machine on my network at all. As soon
as I start sending or receiving data my machine panics.
I would like to be able to use this card as I probably
own about 200 of them now.
Is there a file (other than messages) that records the
panic message. It's a little tough to read all of the
diatribe that NS/FIP screams with it's last moan of screen
writes in the 1" by 1" window at at 56 kilobaud during
the panic :-)
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From: uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Video Hardware
Message-ID: <1993Oct28.121833.2022@lkba.uucp>
Sender: lkb@lkba.uucp (Larry Blische)
Organization: LKB Associates, Inc.
References: <CFK9w8.10y@ripple.uunet>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 12:18:33 GMT
In article <CFK9w8.10y@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
writes:
> I just saw the ultimate video board running NS, it was doing 1,400 x 1,200
at
> 16 bit color. It was a S3 based 928 card in a NEC Image 486es (not just
yet
> released) in the local bus "NEC opti-bus" slot. It was smoother than a NS
> Turbo Color when dragging windows. The board is not made by NEC, but they
are
> thinking of licensing it... I was told tentative price was in the $1,000
range.
> It was awesome to say the least.
>
> That's my idea of a perfect video card, as soon as I find a place to
obtain it
> you can guess what will be driving my monitor :-)
Any guess what monitor (and at what price) will be needed to sync on 1400 x
1200 ?
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From: paulz@olivetti.nl (Paul van der Zwan)
Subject: Seagate drive in NS mono
Message-ID: <1993Oct28.133752.13098@olivetti.nl>
Organization: Olivetti Nederland B.V.
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 13:37:52 GMT
Has anybody got expirience ( positive or negative)
with one of the following Seagate drives in an NS mono ??
ST-11900N (1585 meg) , ST-12400N ( 2100 meg) , ST-31200N or ST-11200N
( both 1050 meg)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: How to set SCSI ID for Fujitsu M2694A 1.08G drive ?
Message-ID: <CFLxFw.86L@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 12:31:08 GMT
Thanks to Matthew Seaman and Christian who answered my last question.
I bought the drive today and found that the manual is printed in low
quality. The jumpers location/function/labelling do not match with
the little booklet. I found the SW1 8bit dip switch (told by Matthew)
and disabled the synchronous transfer mode.
But I don't know how to set the SCSI ID. I had tried to remove two
outer jumpers of CNH10 but failed "SCSI error".
Model M2694ESA
P/N B03B-7295-B116A#NP
S/N 500475 Date 1993-07
Rating +12VDC 0.6A
+5VDC 1.1A
Rev. NO. A 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
= = = = = =
Mr.WONG Sai Kee
Graduate Student
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: NS Laptops running at > 33 MHz
Message-ID: <CFLDt0.9Kx@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley)
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 05:27:00 GMT
I'm ready to take the plunge and buy a NS laptop. I want a docking station
and I want something that runs faster than 33 MHz. There are a few models
out there but I have never heard of any "success stories." Is anybody
currently using anything that runs faster and hopefully has a
larger-than-200MB-disk in it?
Please e-mail me with any war stories, advice, prices, supplier, etc.
Thanks.
From: dougr@meaddata.com (Doug Ritter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: sulistio@chop.isca.uiowa.edu unreachable!
Date: 28 Oct 1993 14:38:00 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2aolg8$d1v@meaddata.meaddata.com>
Sorry folks! Tried to respond to an email request for help, but the mail
has bounced repeatedly. I'm more than happy to help out, but I can't get
to you!
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: SIMMs
Message-ID: <CFL4sG.31D@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Oct26.225438.7144@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 02:12:16 GMT
In article <1993Oct26.225438.7144@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>
olivierl@rb-csd.SanDiego.NCR.COM () writes:
#
#Regarding the SIMMs 1Mox9 for PCs : can I use these for my NeXT CUBE ?
#
#Same question for the 4Mo SIMMs for PCs.
I have a mix (not in the same bank) of 1x9s, 1x8s, and 4x9s.
This is in a '040 cube.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: MIDI Pinouts
Message-ID: <CFLCot.5q@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <2ahme1$ffg@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 05:02:53 GMT
In article <2ahme1$ffg@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu
(Alex Currier) writes:
#In article <2ahfm1$1uf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> cwilson@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chris
#Wilson) writes:
#
#> 2) NeXTs can use a standard Macintosh MIDI interface - these
#> can be had for $35-45. In fact, unless you have a burning desire to build
#> it yourself, I'd kinda recommend it.
#
#This is not entirely correct. 68030 based NeXT computers were compatible with
#Mac MIDI interfaces but the '040 based NeXT computers are not.
#
#Quoting from the relevant NeXT documentation:
#
#"Serial ports A and B use 8-pin miniature DIN (MiniDIN-8) connectors. Both
#ports on a 68040-based NeXT computer are RS-423 compatible; the ports on a
#68030-based NeXT computer are RS-422 compatible (though different)."
#
#Most unpowered Mac MIDI interfaces will not work correctly on '040 based NeXT
#machines. They may receive but not transmit or vice versa. There are some Mac
#MIDI interfaces which are NeXT compatible, the Opcode Studio 3 comes to mind.
#Several other self powered interfaces may work as well. I believe this is
#detailed in the FAQ. MIDI interfaces designed for NeXT are available from
#several companies including Pinnacle Research (info@pri.com). I have no
#affiliation with Opcode or Pinnacle.
The operative word in the above paragraph is *MOST*.
I currently use and have been using an Opcode MIDI Translator
for over a year.
It requires an asymetrical cable. I got the info from somewhere
but I forget where. Anyway I took out my trusty ohmmeter and
check the connections.
Here they are.
NeXT '040 side Opcode MT side
1 -------------------------- 2
2 -------------------------- 1
3 -------------------------- 5
4 -------------------------- 8
5 -------------------------- 3
6 -------------------------- 6
7 -------------------------- 7
8 - NC 4 - NC
(NC = No Connection)
This cable works for me. I'm not responsible if it doesn't
work on your machine or it goes poof!
It does work on my cube and also worked on a ColorStation.
Kent
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From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Re: How to set SCSI ID for Fujitsu M2694A 1.08G drive ?
Message-ID: <CFM0v1.8FC@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
References: <CFLxFw.86L@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 13:45:00 GMT
Thanks to Matthew. I got the answer, it's up and running.
Thanks
SK
From: mtie@carleton.edu (Michael Tie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542CF problems
Date: 28 Oct 1993 17:57:43 GMT
Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA
Message-ID: <2ap16n$8td@chuangtsu.acns.carleton.edu>
Keywords: Adaptec
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 20-Oct-93 Adaptec 1542CF
> I've noticed some postings recently on the 1542CF being
> incompatible with NeXTSTEP - wondering if they got
> resolved?? Is NeXT currently providing support for
> this or will it be included in 3.2??
>
I'm having the same problem. I ordered 1542C's and I received CF's, and
I've had absolutely no luck at getting NeXTSTEP installed. My system
config is:
DEC 486/66 MTE, 32 MB RAM, DEC's S3-928 with 4 MB VRAM,
1.2 GB Fujitsu HD, 3.5" Floppy, Intel EtherExpress,
and the dreaded ataptec 1542CF.
Here's what I've heard (yep, these are rumors. These are not official;
if they are wrong, please let me know. I really want to use the 1542CF):
The problem is that the 1542CF is not responding to
NeXTSTEP's signal to reset the scsi bus.
adaptec no longer makes the 1542C, and I've called a number
of pc places, and I can't find any lying on shelves.
the 1542CF should work with NeXTSTEP 3.2, but no one will
tell me how soon 3.2 will ship.
the Bus Logic 542B is equivalent to the Adaptec 1542B card.
(I've not tried this card yet...)
I'm in the process of setting up a lab with 12 machines; I've had one
machine up and running for a couple of months now (using the adaptec
1542C), and it is working great. So after I was convinced that I had a
working configuration, I ordered the rest of the machines, and of course,
I received the new adaptec 1542CF cards. Now I can't get NS to install.
The install dies when it tries to find the cd-rom (during a scsi bus
reset.) I've even tried connecting a hard drive with NeXTSTEP already
installed on it to the Adaptec 1542CF cards, but it dies right after
registering the floppy drive, and yep it gives the standard "RDP" error.
I've fiddled with all the software settings, and I've played with all the
jumpers on the controller and the hard drive, and I get nothing.
Has anyone gotten the Adaptec 1542CF to work with NeXTSTEP with any
machine?
Anyway, I'm going to try swapping my Adaptec cards for BusLogic 542 cards.
Has anyone used this card? Does NeXTSTEP install with it? I would like
to hear any good or bad experiences that people have had with the buslogic
542...
Mike Tie mtie@carleton.edu
Math/CS 507-663-4067
Carleton College
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: NS Laptops running at > 33 MHz
Message-ID: <CFMFJ9.JvI@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <CFLDt0.9Kx@nimno.wpa.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 19:01:56 GMT
In article <CFLDt0.9Kx@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes:
>>I'm ready to take the plunge and buy a NS laptop. I want a docking station
>>and I want something that runs faster than 33 MHz. There are a few models
>>out there but I have never heard of any "success stories." Is anybody
>>currently using anything that runs faster and hopefully has a
>>larger-than-200MB-disk in it?
>>
>>Please e-mail me with any war stories, advice, prices, supplier, etc.
>>Thanks.
I just saw an Austin Computers laptop running at 66Mhz w/localbus video at our
user group meeting (ANUG). It was really sweet (modulo screen resolution) ! In
theory it should be able to do 16bit color but the drivers aren' there.
Contact James Carpenter at Pencom software <jamesc@pencom.com> to find out who
to talk to at Austin Computer.
--
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Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
From: wwille.hanse.de!wwille (Winfried Wille)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: 6830 board with only a external harddrive - how ?
Date: 27 Oct 1993 13:13:52 +0100
Organization: Terraprolls
Sender: wwille@wwille.hanse.de
Message-ID: <2alom0$5mo@wwille.hanse.de>
Keywords: 6830, harddisk, termination
Hi,
currently I'am netbooting my 6830 board from the 6840 board.
I would like to attach a external 200 MB Rodime harddisk to the 6830
board. My Cube is already filled up with a optical and 5.25 drive.
The 6830 board boots fine from the Rodime, when it has the internal Wren V
attached. If there's no internal drive attached boards starts to boot, but
corrupts the rodime.
I attached a flatband cable with a Terminator to the internal port and
just got "bad io direction". I attached the Rodime with a flatband cable
to the internal SCSI port ( I know its just one bus ), the harddisk was
not recognized. I was told that it is not possible to just attach a
external harddisk. Anyone a hint how to correctly terminate the internal
SCSI port ?
Thanks in advance
Winni
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From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Subject: ANy news on NS/i 3.2 availability
Message-ID: <1993Oct28.191138.27276@cc.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 19:11:38 GMT
Does anyone knows when 3.2 will be available ?
I am dying for softpc.
JM
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
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From: debaud@cc.gatech.edu (Jean-Marc Debaud)
Subject: Re: Monitors (yes again... sorry :)
Message-ID: <1993Oct28.191918.27601@cc.gatech.edu>
Sender: news@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: College of Computing
References: <1993Oct26.212441.23167@umr.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 19:19:18 GMT
>NEC's 5FG,e " "
No this monitor will not work. The 5FG will but not the
5FGe. Refresh rates are not as good as the FG and for
the Next stuff it is not enough.
JM
debaud@cc.gatech.edu
From: mgrmja@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J. Allard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Trouble with Quantum ELS127 drives
Followup-To: poster
Date: 28 Oct 1993 22:34:46 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2aphe6$1td@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Greetings.
We have bought a couple Quantum ProDrive 127s (ELS127S) and I am having some
trouble with them. I wrote the disk label once, but I could not write
anything else to the disk.
Now, when I try to write the disk label, I get the following (at least 4
times):
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 1
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 2
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 3
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 4
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 5
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 6
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 7
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 8
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 9
sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL
I have used/built numerous Quantum 120MB drives recently with no problem.
The ELS127S is (I believe) a newer drive, and it may be attempting that evil
synchronous mode data transfer stuff that NeXT insists on being the boss
about. Am I just plain out of luck here?
The only jumpers on the drive are for SCSI ID. Is this drive too smart for
NeXT's britches? I really dislike the thought of sending these back. :-(
BTW, the drive is terminated OK. The original label I wrote appears on the
screen at boot time:
QUANTUM ELS127S Rev 4.07 as sd1 at sc0 target 2 lun 0
Disk Label: NeXT_3.1
Disk Capacity 122MB, Device Block 512 bytes
Please e-mail any responses. I will gladly summarize.
Thanks in advance - I'm stuck on this one.
Mike
P.S. The Quantum 120s were also of the 512-byte-block variety, and I had no
problem with that. :-?
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From: NGUSTILO@delphi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Repeat Request: Anyone using an Ethernet Board with their Gatewa
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 93 01:02:30 EST
Organization: Delphi Internet
Message-ID: <931029.03750.NGUSTILO@delphi.com>
References: <2a8oa0$3dd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
These cards seem to work fine. Nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: powhwee@ncb.gov.sg (Tan Pow Hwee)
Subject: TsengLabs ET4000AX
Message-ID: <1993Oct29.050432.23435@iti.gov.sg>
Sender: news@iti.gov.sg (News Admin)
Organization: National Computer Board, Singapore
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 05:04:32 GMT
Howdy,
We installed NSFIP on a 486PC equipped with ET4000AX. However,
we are currently getting only 640x480 from the Default VGA driver.
Every time we choose the ET4000 driver from Configure.app and restart,
we get very skewed images on the screen, everthing seems out of sync.
Also, towards the end of boot up process, there is a message
"Frame buffer not linked to kernel" (something like this). This
message occurs regardless of whether we chose Default VGA or ET4000.
Please enlighten. Thanks.
ph
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kenw@well.sf.ca.us (Kenneth A. Worthy)
Subject: 400dpi eraser lamps
Message-ID: <CFnAq8.6n4@well.sf.ca.us>
Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 06:15:43 GMT
My 400dpi NeXT printer is having a recurrent problem with dark streaks going
down the page and the image repeating (fainter) one drum roller circumference
down the page. Talking to a couple of repair center people and tinkering a
bit, it seems like the eraser lamps may be out. The toner cartridge has been
replaced, and that's when the problem first cleared up, but when a couple of
pages misfed and the printer ran without paper moving through recently, the
drum got all tonered (maybe charged by the wire??) and the images are now
consistently smeared. I removed the eraser lamps and ran the printer, and the
paper output looks exactly the same.
Has anyone seen this? The cartridge is new and used for only about 30 pages.
How often do the eraser lamps fail?
Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kenw@well.sf.ca.us (Kenneth A. Worthy)
Subject: 400dpi eraser lamps
Message-ID: <CFnAs2.6or@well.sf.ca.us>
Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 06:16:49 GMT
My 400dpi NeXT printer is having a recurrent problem with dark streaks going
down the page and the image repeating (fainter) one drum roller circumference
down the page. Talking to a couple of repair center people and tinkering a
bit, it seems like the eraser lamps may be out. The toner cartridge has been
replaced, and that's when the problem first cleared up, but when a couple of
pages misfed and the printer ran without paper moving through recently, the
drum got all tonered (maybe charged by the wire??) and the images are now
consistently smeared. I removed the eraser lamps and ran the printer, and the
paper output looks exactly the same.
Has anyone seen this? The cartridge is new and used for only about 30 pages.
How often do the eraser lamps fail?
Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kenw@well.sf.ca.us (Kenneth A. Worthy)
Subject: 400dpi eraser lamps
Message-ID: <CFnB23.6vp@well.sf.ca.us>
Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 06:22:50 GMT
My 400dpi NeXT printer is having a recurrent problem with dark streaks going
down the page and the image repeating (fainter) one drum roller circumference
down the page. Talking to a couple of repair center people and tinkering a
bit, it seems like the eraser lamps may be out. The toner cartridge has been
replaced, and that's when the problem first cleared up, but when a couple of
pages misfed and the printer ran without paper moving through recently, the
drum got all tonered (maybe charged by the wire??) and the images are now
consistently smeared. I removed the eraser lamps and ran the printer, and the
paper output looks exactly the same.
Has anyone seen this? The cartridge is new and used for only about 30 pages.
How often do the eraser lamps fail?
Ken
From: enyaw@quark.uucp (Wayne Simila-Dickinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT CD-ROM drive -- multi-session? upgrade?
Message-ID: <znr751807995k@quark.uucp>
Date: 28 Oct 93 11:33:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: quark.znr751807995k
Organization: Wayne's World (hiz home)
Is the NeXT CD-ROM drive a multi-session drive? If it isn't is there a
ROM upgrade to allow it to become one?
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more later.
-Wayne
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From: mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach)
Subject: Next 040 cube floppy?
Message-ID: <1993Oct29.082517.7465@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 93 08:25:17 GMT
O.K., o.k., I admit, I pulled a stupid move.
I noticed the 040 motherboard has a standard
floppy-cable connector on it for attaching
internal floppy drives on machines that come
configured that way. So, I went out and spent
$36 for a brand new 2.88 floppy, $3 for a cable,
and took them home to set up my cube with a floppy
drive. The only problem was that I didn't know
which way the cable should be oriented. I guessed
one way, and that didn't work, so I unplugged the
data cable and flipped it around, and that just made
the machine power down. Hm. didn't look too good.
Well, since it was a normal floppy cable, with the
half-twist in it, with two sets of connectors at
one end, I figured I'd just try the other connector
and see if that worked any better. The first time
I pressed the power key, I just heard a faint pop,
but nothing else happened. So, I pressed the power
key a second time. Within 6 seconds, the air was
filled with acrid blue-black smoke, I had a nice
set of burns on the insides of my fingers, and my
$3 floppy cable was a glowing, dripping mess. I
yanked the cable out of the machine (burning my
fingers more deeply in the process), and yanked
the power cord out.
After letting the smoke clear for a few minutes, I
powered the machine back up, and it came up just
fine (thank god for good engineering from the folks
at NeXT, protecting stupid morons like me), but I
was no closer to having a floppy drive on my cube.
In fact, I'm now on cable, and possible one drive
farther away.
So, to the meat of the question:
Has anyone out there ever attempted what I am
attempting? Does anyone know the correct cable
configuration and orientation for connecting
a 2.88 floppy drive to the NeXT 040 motherboard
for a NeXT cube? If so, would you mind terribly
much sending me some clues?
Thanks a million!
Matt Petach
lucky moron who's almost killed his NeXTs more times
than he can count....
From: csmith@mason1.gmu.edu (CHRISTIAN SMITH)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: 6830 board with only a external harddrive - how ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next
Date: 29 Oct 1993 00:31:48 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2apo9k$l2@news.intercon.com>
References: <2alom0$5mo@wwille.hanse.de>
Winfried Wille (wwille.hanse.de!wwille) wrote:
(Question on setting up 030 board to use an external drive and no internal)
Ok, I have no idea if this will work, but it might be possible. I take no
responsibility for any damage this causes and I have NOT tried it myself. I
am merely interpolating from information that I know about scsi.
It may be possible for you to use the full hight drive that is attached to
the 040 as the internal for the 030. In order to do this you will be have
to be able to change the scsi id of the scsi driver on the 030 board. This
should be possible but I don't know the details on how to do this. Then
you would use a long two device flat cable to hook both the 030 and the 040
board to the internal drive. Then the 030 would have to be told to boot
off of the external drive.
So, your scsi id might be
040 scsi - id 7
030 scsi - id 6
internal - id 0
external - id 1
other - id 2-5
The 040 would have as its boot command "sd- nbu=256"
and the 030 would have "sd(1)" Unfortunately, I don't see any way to put
in a high nbuff value as the boot string has to be <12 characters, but this
probably isn't really necessary withan 030 board that isn't loading workspace
manager.
Well, I will very interested in hearing if anybody knows how to change the
scsi id of the 030's scsi controler and if anybody has the guts to try this.
Please let me know.
Chow
Christian
From: droux@info.isbiel.ch (Nicolas Droux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Putting a Seagate ST11200N in a 68040 cube
Date: 29 Oct 1993 14:21:39 GMT
Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ar8tj$phm@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
I'm planning to buy a Seagate ST11200N 1GB drive for a 68040 NeXTcube.
Will it works ?
Thanks,
Nicolas Droux.
PS: I have to buy it as soon as possible.
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From: burns@bellcore.com (James E. Burns)
Subject: Ports A and B differ on 68040 Cube???
Message-ID: <BURNS.93Oct29101422@gauss.bellcore.com>
Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 15:14:22 GMT
I have been going nuts the last couple of weeks trying to get SLIP
to drop my connection when I slipdown. Finally, I got hold of a
line tester and found that DTR was not being raised. While messing
around, I found that it DID get raised on port A (I happen to have
used port B). If you can shed some light on this please answer to
give me some peace of mind.
1. I responded very early to get the 68040 upgrade board for my
original (came with 0.8) NeXTCube. During boot it displays:
"NeXT ROM Monitor 2.4 v65". I was surprised to find that the
Mac cable I had been using still worked, since the doc's said
it should not. I didn't worry about it since I didn't need
hardware flow control.
2. When I finally got a 14.4 modem, I ordered the flow control
cable as specified in the zs man page (and posted here many
times). I verified that the cable is wired correctly using
a multimeter, but it didn't work. Acting on a hunch, I put
in a null-modem block & the cable works correctly.
3. I seem to recall that on the 68030 ports A & B differed, but I
can't find anything in my 3.1 docs that says they differ for
the 68040. Do I have some kind of weird pre-production 68040
board with 68030 ports (with flow control -- did the 68030
have this)?
Does anyone have similar problems?
Does anyone (maybe at NeXT) know what's going on?
Thanks,
jim burns
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: FAX, Serial Ports, Intel
Message-ID: <1993Oct29.142232.5076@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 14:22:32 GMT
I have an immediate need to FAX from my Intel only NEXTSTEP environment.
What solutions do I have. In addition, I have a potential problem. Both
of my serial ports are occupied by serial connections to other UNIX hosts.
THus my ports are tekn, so I would love a way to add more ports. Is this
available?
All help is appreciated.
Thanks
Wes Spears
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From: crj2@Isis.MsState.Edu (Charles R. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: <> FORSALE: Battery Backup/smart UPS [UPDATE]
Date: 29 Oct 1993 15:58:49 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University
Message-ID: <2arejp$jlg@Tut.MsState.Edu>
Okay my previous post about the Tripp-Lite UPS had a huge error, so I am
posting this update.
Tripp-Lite Omni 450 LAN Line Interactive UPS
4 outlets
450 VA
I called Tripp Lite and they tell me that with a 386 PC, a 14" monitor, and
a modem this UPS will supply power for about 15 mins.
^^^^^^^^
Sorry for my gross error in the previous post!
*NOTE* This is a "smart UPS" not just a backup, which means that when the
power goes out it does not have to switch to the batteries, which means
no chance of your computer or modem balking from the slight voltage drop.
It also keeps the line voltage at 115v no matter if brownout or transient
power fluctuations.
mail offers to crj2@isis.msstate.edu or just whack [r] and reply from News.
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From: jbell@spiffy.cybernet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS Laptops running at > 33 MHz
Date: 29 Oct 93 12:11:56
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <jbell.93Oct29121156@spiffy>
References: <CFLDt0.9Kx@nimno.wpa.com> <CFMFJ9.JvI@dvorak.amd.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
> In article <CFLDt0.9Kx@nimno.wpa.com> john@wpa.com (John Bartley) writes:
> >>I'm ready to take the plunge and buy a NS laptop. I want a docking station
> >>and I want something that runs faster than 33 MHz. There are a few models
> >>out there but I have never heard of any "success stories." Is anybody
> >>currently using anything that runs faster and hopefully has a
> >>larger-than-200MB-disk in it?
> >>
> >>Please e-mail me with any war stories, advice, prices, supplier, etc.
> >>Thanks.
>
> I just saw an Austin Computers laptop running at 66Mhz w/localbus video at our
> user group meeting (ANUG). It was really sweet (modulo screen resolution) ! In
> theory it should be able to do 16bit color but the drivers aren' there.
> Contact James Carpenter at Pencom software <jamesc@pencom.com> to find out who
> to talk to at Austin Computer.
>
> --
> Ronald Pomeroy
> Advanced Micro Devices
> CAM Applications Group
> rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
>
I'd like to hear more about this product. What kind of a price range are we talking about?
---
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu
Subject: NS 3.1 work with Ambra Machines?
Message-ID: <CFo2MI.895@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: The Minnesota Daily
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 16:15:37 GMT
Specifically I'm looking at the Ambra Pentium machines. Does anybody
have any experience with these machines?
Thanks.
Rick W.
From: klingler@unm.edu (Dave Klingler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Perpetual OD Drive Trouble
Date: 29 Oct 1993 14:20:31 -0600
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Message-ID: <2artuf$68t@triton.unm.edu>
References: <2ahsf6$k91@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <2ahsf6$k91@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Jessica L. Mosher <cooncat@gershwin.mills.edu> wrote:
>
>Okay, I tried Bell Atlantic's suggestions and haven't gotten anywhere.
>
>My optical disk drive has failed, but it doesn't seem to be terribly sick.
>Upon insertion of an optical disk, it starts up, spins the disk as if
>normal, tries two or three more times, and then outputs the following:
>
>od0? Disk not up to speed (0:0:0) Block 0 phys error -66384
>
>ej works. The system neither crashes or even blinks, and diagnostics
>brings up this exact same message, and I failed to boot off an optical
>disk as well. Like I said, it doesn't seem to be terribly ill, just can't
>read anything.
>Before I take the plunge and purchase a new OD drive unit, does anyone
>have any ideas on how to repair it? I've looked at NeXTanswers and none
>of their suggestions worked either.
The whole point of the follow exercise is to get the dust out of your OD.
Jessica, you're the proud owner of one of the first magneto-optical drives,
and one of the things that Canon didn't know when they built it was that
they shouldn't have designed it to cool the drive by blowing air through
the mechanism. You can probably repair the disk itself with fsck, but first
you'll need to clean the drive. There were once cleaning kits available
(I'm not sure whether NeXT or Bell-Atlantic still sells them), but in a
pinch you can very carefully take the drive apart (careful with the thin
celophane ribbon cable) and clean the drive and head with cotton swabs and
distilled water. I've been afraid to use alcohol on the lens because it
attacks some kinds of plastics used in MO drives and CD players.
Depending on your technical inclinations, this process may or may not terrify
you but it's actually very straightforward. You'll probably find a small
quantity of dust inside the drive; remove as much as you can. The whole
process takes only 20-30 minutes, and there're only a few screws to remove.
Do it in a clean, well-lit place.
Now clean out the filter (hope you have one) on the back of the drive. You
can actually wash it and let it dry. I've heard of people taking the filter
from an air de-ionizer and putting it on the back of their NeXTs. I may
do this myself some day. It sounds like a good idea.
Now that the drive is clean you can put it back into the machine and attempt to
repair the disk itself. It's been a while since I did this, but you start
with the disk out and pull up a shell, then type "fsck -b 16 /dev/od0a."
Fsck will prompt you to insert the disk, and it'll go to work. With any
luck fsck will be successful and you'll be able to mount the disk. If fsck
can't repair it, try rebuilding it, which should work just fine.
I've said all this assuming you don't have an OD-only machine. If you don't
have a hard drive with which to boot, um, uh, find someone who does to repair
the disk.
Good luck! Any questions to
Dave Klingler
klingler@triton.unm.edu
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From: john@klein.Mines.Colorado.EDU (John Stockwell)
Subject: Disk formatting problem
Sender: news@slate.mines.colorado.edu
Message-ID: <1993Oct28.231756.33641@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 23:17:56 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
I was doing a low level format
on a FUJITSU M2654SA using "sdform"
and inadvertantly interrupted the
formatting process before it finished.
Needless to say, I can't format or initialize
the disk.
Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
-John
john@dix.mines.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Video Hardware
Message-ID: <CFn2u0.2HM@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
References: <1993Oct28.121833.2022@lkba.uucp>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 03:25:12 GMT
In article <1993Oct28.121833.2022@lkba.uucp> uunet!lkba!lkb (Larry Blische)
writes:
> In article <CFK9w8.10y@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
> writes:
> > I just saw the ultimate video board running NS, it was doing 1,400 x 1,200
> at
> > 16 bit color. It was a S3 based 928 card in a NEC Image 486es (not just
[munch]
>
> Any guess what monitor (and at what price) will be needed to sync on 1400 x
> 1200 ?
> ---
> Larry Blische lkba!lkb@uunet.UU.NET
I was told (by NEC) that the NEC 6FG would synch to that resolution.
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From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Video Hardware
Message-ID: <Oct.29.17.21.27.1993.188@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 29 Oct 93 21:21:27 GMT
References: <751701575.AA00250@Chigate.chigate.com> <CFK9w8.10y@ripple.uunet>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes:
>I just saw the ultimate video board running NS, it was doing 1,400 x 1,200 at
>16 bit color. It was a S3 based 928 card in a NEC Image 486es (not just yet
By chance is that supposed to be 1600X1200? 1400X1200 is a somewhat Odd size
Not that I would put it past NeXT for doing things oddly :)
Hmmm, would this board do 1182X832 in 24 bit?
This sounds like a nice board...1000 bux list translates to about 500-600
discounted...
Later, John
From: ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Dodamani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Hard Disk Crashed - Would appreciate any help
Date: 29 Oct 1993 22:07:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2as47k$qdp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello friends
This morning when I was testing my software(NS/FIP), the whole system
froze(this happens often and the result is usually files getting
corrupted). The only way in such times is to press the reset button. When
I did it this time, when it was rebooting, it started giving the following
error continuously.
sd0: No error to report; Retrying
target:0 lun:0 op:Read block:1865136
IO error on pagein(breadDirect)
I just cannot do anything anything with it. To me it looks like a defect
in the hardware. Anybody have any suggestions?
Thanks
Ramesh
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Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland OH 44106
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung)
Subject: Sound digitiizers
Message-ID: <vfr750CFoG48.9pA@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 21:09:43 GMT
Does anyone have any suggestions for equipment used to digitize sounds
on a slab?
I would like to digitize some CD samples, but hanging a microphone over
my stereo speakers seems awkward at best (and low res at worst).
According to Conrads latest Nugget post, the only thing that I saw was
something from Singular Solutions for ~$1300. *ahem*...For $1300, even
I'd try to build a digitizer myself.
Anyway, any suggestions and pointers would be appreciated. If you've got
schematic for something then I'd even entertain looking at that.
Thanx!
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From: corey@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Contractor - John Corey)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 01:10:54 GMT
Subject: Re: Organizing Gateway 2000 users of Nextstep
Message-ID: <71670005@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
References: <1993Oct26.234032.22299@cs.cornell.edu>
As someone who only today discovered Gateway as a possible NS/I system
to order, I have a question. The answer might define if I should
becomes a Gateway mailing list member.
Anyone know about the new Gateway system with the P-5, etc. for just
under $4k? If it is truely able to run NS, then I will eb ordering
one very soon.
Any and all comments are welcome. Email might work better but I should
be able to follow posts here.
Baker
baker@tciltd.com (Next mail welcome)
baker@cup.hp.com (where I am consulting)
From: ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Dodamani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Nanao monitor really good?
Date: 29 Oct 1993 23:00:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Recently we bought two 486 EISA systems with NS loaded. Based on the
positive comments about the Nanao monitor we order these monitors with the
systems. These monitors(F550i) have an odd problem that, when a big window
(like a terminal window or the file viewer) is brought on screen, the
overall brightness of the monitor reduces. This is simply irritating. One
of the monitors was not bright enough, and therefore got a replacement.
The second monitor that we originally got has the left portion of the
screen brighter than the right. All these monitors have the screen dimming
problem that I mentioned above. I also feel that the screen is not bight
enough.
I haven't heard any other complaint about these monitors. Therefor
if anybody has anything to say on this, I would be grateful.
Thanks
Ramesh
--
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Crawford Hall, # 604
Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland OH 44106
=======================================================
From: haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help, Install problem on Lucky-Goldstar
Date: 30 Oct 1993 00:09:09 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <2asbb5$5t6@news.doit.wisc.edu>
I'm trying to install NS3.1 on a LuckyGoldstar with an ide harddisk.
Everything is ok until it tries to format the disk. I couldn't write
everything down but here are some of the messages that appear
IDEFlushInitMessage:Stray interrupt IDEWriteMultiple
IDESoftReset
wtfs:I/O Error
Unable To Format HardDrive
Install Failed
I've configured the machine to the specification in NextAnswers for
LuckyGoldstar machines and the general specifications in the install
manual.
Thanks for any help
Michael Haker
haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu
PS: when is 3.2 shipping, this is the third machine I've tried to install
NS3.1 on and it is not a simple process. Is anyone selling machines with
NS preinstalled?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon)
Subject: Cheap video digitizer for black hardware or SCSI based
Message-ID: <1993Oct30.020911.10610@seas.smu.edu>
Sender: news@seas.smu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: SMU - School of Engineering & Applied Science - Dallas
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 02:09:11 GMT
Does anyone know if there is a cheap video digitizer for black hardware?
Even better would be a machine independent SCSI-based digitizer (if
possible). References to used equipment sources appreciated.
Dave
From: camilleg@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Camille Groudeseune)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: re: barracuda drive: followup pending
Date: 30 Oct 1993 05:34:33 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2asud9$ri8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
A few weeks ago I posted a request for info on connecting
the new, big, fast 2.4G "barracuda" drive to a 2.1 Cube.
I got a ton of advice, which I will evaluate and summarize
to the net once the drive actually appears in our lab.
Looks like a few more weeks...
(When my net address ended with .com, it was much faster
to get hardware then with my present .edu address. Sigh.)
Camille Goudeseune
UIUC Computer Music Project
From: jr@sade.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: re: barracuda drive: followup pending
Date: 30 Oct 1993 08:18:33 GMT
Organization: The Home of the Pilhuhn
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2at80p$pdm@pilhuhn.pilhuhn.sub.org>
References: <2asud9$ri8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <2asud9$ri8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> camilleg@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Camille
Groudeseune) writes:
> A few weeks ago I posted a request for info on connecting
> the new, big, fast 2.4G "barracuda" drive to a 2.1 Cube.
> I got a ton of advice, which I will evaluate and summarize
> to the net once the drive actually appears in our lab.
> Looks like a few more weeks...
> (When my net address ended with .com, it was much faster
> to get hardware then with my present .edu address. Sigh.)
>
> Camille Goudeseune
> UIUC Computer Music Project
I had this drive on a NSTC. It works rightaway and without any problems.
IOSTAT shows 8ms. However the SCSI controller is not able to show it's power.
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From: phil@unitec.demon.co.uk (Phil Robinson)
Subject: Adaptec 1542CF doesn't work with NSFIP
Distribution: world
Organization: Unified Technology
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 13:58:10 +0000
Message-ID: <751404649snx@unitec.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
Just to add my bit to the body of knowledge:
The Adaptec 1542CF controller DOES NOT WORK with NSFIP.
=
Replace it with a 1542C and all is well (well, not all in that
the floppy still won't read, but better in that the SCSI HDD
works, and NSFIP boots).
Now I wait for someone else to say it does...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542CF doesn't work with NSFIP
Message-ID: <dcodeCFpsAn.M44@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <751404649snx@unitec.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 14:30:23 GMT
In article <751404649snx@unitec.demon.co.uk> phil@unitec.demon.co.uk writes:
>Just to add my bit to the body of knowledge:
>
>The Adaptec 1542CF controller DOES NOT WORK with NSFIP.
> =
>Replace it with a 1542C and all is well (well, not all in that
>the floppy still won't read, but better in that the SCSI HDD
>works, and NSFIP boots).
>
>Now I wait for someone else to say it does...
No, in fact, it's documented that it doesn't work. In the NeXTanswer
number 1108 on Adaptect SCSI Cards, it says:
* Adaptec has released a new version of this card, the 1542cf. NeXT's
driver may not work with this card. NeXT is aware of the problem and
working with Adaptec to find a solution.
So there you have it:)
Paul
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From: yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sound driver for Intel GX: I need it
Date: 30 Oct 1993 08:55:46 -0600
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center, Salt Lake City, Ut.
Message-ID: <2atv9i$o0t@u.cc.utah.edu>
Hi there.
My own personal Intel GX came in on Thursday, and now I want to get the
on-board sound working today. I understand that 3.2 ought to include the sound
driver, but who wants to wait?
If anyone would email it to me or allow me to retrieve it via anonymous
ftp, I'd love it. If you want to FedEx it to me, I'll give you a Federal
Express number.
Kris
Alpine Computing
800/748-4558
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: Nanao monitor really good?
Message-ID: <CFpuvw.83I@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 15:26:20 GMT
In article <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu writes:
>
>
>
>Recently we bought two 486 EISA systems with NS loaded. Based on the
>positive comments about the Nanao monitor we order these monitors with the
>systems. These monitors(F550i) have an odd problem that, when a big window
>(like a terminal window or the file viewer) is brought on screen, the
>overall brightness of the monitor reduces. This is simply irritating. One
>of the monitors was not bright enough, and therefore got a replacement.
>The second monitor that we originally got has the left portion of the
>screen brighter than the right. All these monitors have the screen dimming
>problem that I mentioned above. I also feel that the screen is not bight
>enough.
> I haven't heard any other complaint about these monitors. Therefor
>if anybody has anything to say on this, I would be grateful.
>
>Thanks
>
>Ramesh
I have been using a Nanao FlexScan F550i for almost 2 months now.
I do not experience any problems like you discuss. Mine is bright,
crisp and flicker free at 1120 x 832 @ 68Hz.
Questions:
Is your monitor power coming throught the plug on back of
the PC, or straight from the wall? Mine comes from the wall.
maybe that would make a difference.
Have you tried other monitors with you system/video board
combination? I once had a bad ATI graphics card which made a wide, dim
stripe on the left hand side of a Sony monitor. The Sony was fine
on another card of same make/model. I replaced the card.
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From: jeffblum@flagstaff.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum)
Subject: Microphone doesn't work...why?
Message-ID: <1993Oct28.201535.15747@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 20:15:35 GMT
I have a stereo tie clip microphone from an Aiwa walkman that I'm trying
to get working with my old style NeXT monitor. I bought an adapter to
convert it to mono, but it still doesn't work. Specifically, whenever I
record anything, I just get a little background noise. Any ideas?
Thanks much!
-jeff
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forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Source for SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cables, etc
Date: 30 Oct 1993 18:12:39 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2auaqnINN4am@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Does anyone know of a cheap source for a black SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cable,
(for a NeXT CD-ROM) and a SCSI terminator. NeXTConnection wants $35 for
the cable and $15 for the terminator. This seems high to me (or am I mistaken?)
Any info/help would be most appreciated.
Bruce Patton
From: matthews@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Geoffrey Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS install on Compaq portable
Summary: Cant install Nextstep
Keywords: NS, Intel, Compaq
Message-ID: <1993Oct30.183533.20562@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
Date: 30 Oct 93 18:35:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Oct30.183533.20562
Organization: Western Washington University
I can't get Nextstep to install on a compaq portable.
It says "cant find CDROM", after the floppy does its boot stuff,
even though the CDrom is a Next (tm) CDrom, attached to
the builtin scsi drive, and Dos can find it easily.
Anybody know how to get this to work?
--
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matthews@fortress.cs.wwu.edu
From: isc10033@leonis.nus.sg (Tan Chee Heng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Using >2gb disk with NS 3.2?
Date: 30 Oct 1993 18:48:22 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
Message-ID: <2auctm$hme@nuscc.nus.sg>
Summary: greater than 2gb disks
Keywords: disk, 3.2, fix, bug
Hi there,
Does anyone know if 3.2 version of NS will fix the problem of not
being able to run 'fdisk' on any disk 1gb? Thanks.
fdisk is the NS's version of it. The dos version seems to run it fine.
This is with an Adaptec 1542B controller.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Floppies on 030 Cubes
Message-ID: <espritCFqAEL.D1u@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 21:01:33 GMT
I am looking into getting a floppy drive for my 030 cube. From what I
can tell, the only way to do this is via an external SCSI device. Who
provides these beasties? I have seen a thing called a Superfloppy 2.88
from a company called PLI, but they want $629 for the thing. I have seen
the Superfloppy 1.44 for a much lower price. Is the only difference that
it can't do 2.88 floppies and the color/styling? I have also seen Bell
Atlantic mentioned in connection with floppies for 030 cubes. What's
the scoop?
Also, what size media does most software for the NeXT come on?
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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 09:54:23 MET
From: OCS@earn.cvut.cs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: BusLogic VL-Bus SCSI Driver?
Message-ID: <16C76889A.OCS@earn.cvut.cs>
Organization: VC CVUT
References: <29uo9i$549@scratchy.reed.edu> <2a7f3g$4oc@nic.umass.edu>
Hi Joseph,
In article <2a7f3g$4oc@nic.umass.edu>
joef@pandora.ucs.umass.edu (Joseph E. Fitzgerald) writes:
>Robert Seymour (rseymour@reed.edu) wrote:
>:I have a system I am trying to set up that has a BusLogic VL-Bus SCSI adapter.
>Well, many (all?) buslogic boards are compatible with the adaptec 1542 series
>of SCSI controllers. I'm using the BusLogic 747S EISA board with NSI using
>the 1542 drivers without problems.
Unfortunately the VL-Bus version of the SCSI adapter (BT-445S) doesn't work
with Adaptec 1542 driver. We tested it under NeXTSTEP (release 3.1).
>Joe
Tomas Hurka
DATA.24
From: csmith@mason1.gmu.edu (CHRISTIAN SMITH)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Microphone doesn't work...why?
Date: 31 Oct 1993 00:00:37 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <2auv75$28a@news.intercon.com>
References: <1993Oct28.201535.15747@Princeton.EDU>
Jeffrey Robert Blum (jeffblum@flagstaff.Princeton.EDU) wrote:
: I have a stereo tie clip microphone from an Aiwa walkman that I'm trying
: to get working with my old style NeXT monitor. I bought an adapter to
: convert it to mono, but it still doesn't work. Specifically, whenever I
: record anything, I just get a little background noise. Any ideas?
The microphone you are using is an electret microphone and you need
to use a dynamic microphone preferally of about 300-600 ohms. You
can get such microphones at Radio Shack. Most tie clip microphones
are electret, most "stand up" microphones are dynamic. Difference is
in how power is supplied.
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Video Hardware
Message-ID: <CFoyoo.3KG@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
References: <Oct.29.17.21.27.1993.188@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 03:50:47 GMT
In article <Oct.29.17.21.27.1993.188@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes:
> >I just saw the ultimate video board running NS, it was doing 1,400 x 1,200
at
> >16 bit color. It was a S3 based 928 card in a NEC Image 486es (not just yet
>
> By chance is that supposed to be 1600X1200? 1400X1200 is a somewhat Odd size
> Not that I would put it past NeXT for doing things oddly :)
> Hmmm, would this board do 1182X832 in 24 bit?
>
> This sounds like a nice board...1000 bux list translates to about 500-600
> discounted...
>
> Later, John
Nope, it was 1,400x1,200 and yes it did do 24bit color also... though since I
was not as interested I did not note whether it was at 1024x768 or 1182X832,
sorry. I'm still trying to find out who makes the board.
--
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df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Need list of inexpensive low-end video for NS/I
Date: 27 Oct 1993 09:27:41 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2albdt$ar@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
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timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck) writes:
>I need a list of inexpensive video cards (pref. VLB, though ISA might be
>acceptable) capable of 1024x768x8-bit or 2-bit greyscale. By inexpensive
>I mean $100-150 or less.
I think the only inexpensive graphics adapter is an ET4000AX ISA.
For better performance, you'd think about the /W32 VESA version which
is announced to be supported in 3.2.
Regards,
Markus.
--
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Sound digitiizers
In-Reply-To: vfr750@netcom.com's message of Fri, 29 Oct 1993 21:09:43 GMT
To: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Oct30103751@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
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References: <vfr750CFoG48.9pA@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 14:37:51 GMT
In article <vfr750CFoG48.9pA@netcom.com> vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung) writes:
Does anyone have any suggestions for equipment used to digitize sounds
on a slab?
I would like to digitize some CD samples, but hanging a microphone over
my stereo speakers seems awkward at best (and low res at worst).
CD samples are _already_ digitized. Going through a DAC and then a
ADC is not going to improve sound quality. Fortunately some CD
drives, notably the Toshiba 3401, the Apple CD300 and the NEC [78]4-1
(and presumably the latest tripple and quadrupple speed versions
hitting the market now) can read digital audio data right off the CD
and transmit it digitally to the host computer over the SCSI bus
without any extra hardware needed. Unfortunately these drives
implement that ability incompatibly so that you'd need a different
program for every one of them. To the best of my knowledge example
code on how to do this is only available for the Toshiba 3401 in the
play3401 package to be found on cs.orst.edu and nova.cc.purdue.edu.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gsl@netcom.com (Greg Lindholm)
Subject: HP LaserJet 4mp 600x600dpi
Message-ID: <gslCFr652.BLt@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 08:27:01 GMT
I just installed the new HP LaserJet 4mp on my NSFIP (Gateway 2000)
using the parallel port. It works GREAT!!! I highly recommend it!
It's 600x600 dpi and priced right (~ $1400).
Greg Lindholm
gsl@netcom.com
From: shim@insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Searching 68040 Logic board for NeXTCube-030
Date: 31 Oct 1993 12:46:24 GMT
Organization: C.I.S.M. Universite de Lyon 1 / INSA de Lyon
Message-ID: <2b0c30$dab@cismsun.univ-lyon1.fr>
Bonjour!
I'm looking for a 68040 logic board for my 030NeXTCube.
Merci!
Newsgroups: uw.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: fineman@cs.washington.edu (Daniel Fineman)
Subject: "ide: read error:" installing NS486!
Message-ID: <1993Oct31.181207.23835@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
References: <1993Oct29.162334.6131@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 93 18:12:07 GMT
hey there all - after finally getting the right SCSI stuff together,
i'm running into a problem "initializing" my hard disk.
First, after booting off of the next floppy (installation), I have to
hit return after the "boot:" prompt, and then unplug the keyboard, or
it won't work later (or so i've found - someone told me that you had
to do that on the old Gateways to get the keyboard to work). After
booting, i've got to eject the floppy disk as soon as "Resetting SCSI
bus..." appears, or installation won't go through.
NS then recognizes the cd rom. Then, it tries to "Register: hc0".
It hangs there for a long time, _unless_ i plug the keyboard back in,
when it will immidiately say
"ide: Read error: status=0x58 error=0x0 cyl=0x0 sec=0x1 drhd=0xa0"
and then it will try to "Register: hc0a", where it will one again
hang, until i plug the keyboard back in, and the same ide read error
is then displayed.
After all this, it finally gets to the part about the language & the
options. I answer all of the questions, and then allocate either all of the
hard disk space or some of it to NeXT (i've tried both). During this
process, i get the same "ide: read error" a few times (when selecting
the disk, and in another spot). After it attempts to initialize the
hard disk, i get the ide read error again, and the system closes up,
saying that the hard disk can't be initialized.
I've got a plain ol' IDE card, and a western digital 340mb hard disk.
Anyone have any ideas as to what could be the problem?
thanks a lot,
dan
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: "Best" white system setup?
Date: 31 Oct 1993 18:55:21 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2b11mpINNb9b@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Hello,
I own black hardware and don't know a lot about the intel
machines. However, I get lots of questions so I am trying to learn a
little. A friend is going to purchase two machines pretty soon for the
lab he administers. He has the hardware compatibility guide, but he asked
me which systems work best for NS. The budget is probably low to medium
so while the high powered $10K machines, may work 'best' they aren't
feasible. :-)
I gave him some information, will pass on the recent NeXTWORLD's,
will give him a copy of the Alpine Catalog and gave him the name of some
here who have intel machines with NS already. However, I couldn't really
answer his question. Is there a "best" machine or machines for NS? Is
this even a practical question? Does it depend on money, personal
preferences, etc.? Is that the case that as long as it's a ready to use
machine, such as advertised by Alpine or in NW that the specifics don't
really matter?
Any advice is greatly appreciated. I'll pass it on to him and
othes. Thank you very much.
---
Sincerely,
charles d. kincaid
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From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Video Hardware
Message-ID: <1993Oct31.173542.215@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <CFoyoo.3KG@ripple.uunet>
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 93 17:35:42 GMT
We are using a miroCRYSTAL 32S with a driver for NEXTSTEP 3.1.
The board supports resolutions of up to 1408 x 1024 at 16-bit, 70 Hz.
It has 4 MB of RAM, is based on the S3 928 chipset and is available for EISA,
Localbus and PCI.
The board supports the following high resolutions:
1408 x 1024 16-bit 70 Hz
1280 x 1024 16-bit 75 Hz
1024 x 768 32-bit 75 Hz
It also supports 8-bit greyscales at these resolutions and the 32-bit mode
(16.8 million colors) will be available with NEXTSTEP 3.2
The retail price of the board here in Germany is about 1,000 Dollars (1,700 DM)
Note that the highest resolution is only supported by few high resolution
monitors. We are using a 21-inch EIZO-monitor (= Nanao F760i-W).
Miro also has lower priced S3 805 boards for NEXTSTEP which support 8-bit
greyscales at 1024x768, 16-bit color at 800 x 600 and 32-bit color at 640 x
480. Retail price is 200 Dollars (340 DM)
We distribute the miro products to NeXT resellers in Germany/Europe.
Miro will also be showing the products at Comdex in Las Vegas next week.
miro Computer Products, Inc.
3160 De La Cruz Blvd., Suite 200
Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
Phone: (408) 727-1558
FAX: (408) 988-2515
Wilfried Beeck
d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
Virchowstr. 17-19
22767 Hamburg
Germany
(49) 40 38023 0
(49) 40 38023 290 fax
From: haker@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (M Haker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Source for SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cables, etc
Date: 31 Oct 1993 20:46:32 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2b1878$42k@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <2auaqnINN4am@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
In article <2auaqnINN4am@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce
Wayne Patton) writes:
> Does anyone know of a cheap source for a black SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cable,
> (for a NeXT CD-ROM) and a SCSI terminator. NeXTConnection wants $35 for
> the cable and $15 for the terminator. This seems high to me (or am I
mistaken?)
> Any info/help would be most appreciated.
>
> Bruce Patton
Club Mac sells them for $10 with $4 shipping
Club Mac
3 Musick
Irvine, CA 92718
(800) 258-2622
Mike Haker
From: mwebster@lab9.smcm.edu (G. Matthew Webster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Video Hardware
Date: 31 Oct 1993 21:06:48 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2b19d8$jdt@umd5.umd.edu>
References: <CFoyoo.3KG@ripple.uunet>
In article <CFoyoo.3KG@ripple.uunet> df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
writes:
> In article <Oct.29.17.21.27.1993.188@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
> kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit) writes:
> > df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein) writes:
> > >I just saw the ultimate video board running NS, it was doing 1,400 x 1,200
> at
> > >16 bit color. It was a S3 based 928 card in a NEC Image 486es (not just yet
> >
> > By chance is that supposed to be 1600X1200? 1400X1200 is a somewhat Odd size
> > Not that I would put it past NeXT for doing things oddly :)
> > Hmmm, would this board do 1182X832 in 24 bit?
> >
> > This sounds like a nice board...1000 bux list translates to about 500-600
> Nope, it was 1,400x1,200 and yes it did do 24bit color also... though since I
> was not as interested I did not note whether it was at 1024x768 or 1182X832,
> sorry. I'm still trying to find out who makes the board.
I've heard mention of NEC using an s3-928 card by Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), called the MT something. Perhaps this was it? By the way, has anyone seen an NEC Image 466 using the new Tseng ET4000/W32i chip?
Matt Webster
mwebster@oyster.smcm.edu
>
From: mwebster@lab9.smcm.edu (G. Matthew Webster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Does NS/I support any ISA Video Cards?
Date: 31 Oct 1993 21:09:35 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2b19if$jo6@umd5.umd.edu>
Does NeXT Step support any ISA video cards? I have a
Diamond Stealth Pro with 2 Megs (S3-928) and would like
to use it with NS. I do not wish to trade my Deico
Predator motherboard for a new VL_bus motherboard,
so any info would be appreciated.
Matt Webster
mwebster@oyster.smcm.edu
2 Megs (S3-928) and would like
to use it with NS. I do not wish to trade my Deico
Predator motherboard for a new VL_bus motherboard,
so any info would be appreciated.
Matt Webster
mwthough since I
> was not as interested I did not note whether it was at 1024x768 or 1182X832,
> sorry. I'm still trying to find out who makes the board.
I've heard mention of NEC using an s3-928 card by Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), called the MT something. Perhaps this was it? By the way, has anyone seen an NEC Image 466 using ebster@oyster.smcm.edu
2 Megs (S3-928) and would like
to use it with NS. I do not wish to trade my Deico
Predator motherboard for a new VL_bus motherboard,
so any info would be appreciated.
Matt Webster
mwthough since I
> was not as interested I did not note whether it was at 1024x768 or 1182X832,
> sorry. I'm still trying to find out who makes the board.
I've heard mention of NEC using an s3-928 card by Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), called the MT something. Perhaps this was it? By the way, has anyone seen an NEC Image 466 using the new Tseng ET4000/W32i chip?
Matt Webster
mwebster@oyster.smcm.edu
>
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From: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: Re: HPLaserJet4ML DOES work with NS/I!
Message-ID: <1993Oct31.172449.29728@newshost.lanl.gov>
Sender: news@newshost.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 17:24:49 GMT
About two weeks ago I posted a long saga about how I got finally the HP-4ML
printer to work with our Epson NX computers (NS/I 3.1). Here is a little
addendum for your enjoyment.
The fellow who got the NX machine finally started doing some actual work with
it; he's using NeXTTeX to write a paper with equations. The stuff on the
screen in TeXView looks normal (quality expected for 91 dpi) but the _printed_
output was pretty shoddy. The italics characters looked like they too were 91
dpi, not the "resolution-enhanced" 300 dpi that we were expecting from the 4ML.
The problem was this. There is no driver for HP-4ML provided in NS/I 3.1 (it
being a relatively new machine), but there is one for an HP-4M. I chose that
option when creating the printer with the PrintManager.app.
Bad choice, since the the 4M is 600 dpi. Choosing instead one of the HP-III
drivers (which _are_ 300 dpi) makes a BIG improvement.
--
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
NeXTMail: silbar@cantina.lanl.gov
From: ouija@access.digex.net (Mark E. Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI with interlaced monitors
Date: 31 Oct 1993 19:08:11 -0500
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Message-ID: <2b1k1b$dof@access.digex.net>
Does anyone know if the driver for the ATI GUP card will someday support
all the refresh rates that the card itself does? Specifically, do I have to
throw out my interlaced SVGA monitor?
=========================================================================
Mark Harris ouija@digex.com
Logicon Operating Systems
=========================================================================
From: ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh Dodamani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Nanao monitor really good?
Date: 1 Nov 1993 07:18:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2b2d8o$9oe@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
References: <CFpuvw.83I@phcs.com>
In article <CFpuvw.83I@phcs.com> jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick) writes:
> In article <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu
writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >Recently we bought two 486 EISA systems with NS loaded. Based on the
> >positive comments about the Nanao monitor we order these monitors with
the
> >systems. These monitors(F550i) have an odd problem that, when a big
window
> >(like a terminal window or the file viewer) is brought on screen, the
> >overall brightness of the monitor reduces. This is simply irritating.
One
> >of the monitors was not bright enough, and therefore got a replacement.
> >The second monitor that we originally got has the left portion of the
> >screen brighter than the right. All these monitors have the screen
dimming
> >problem that I mentioned above. I also feel that the screen is not
bight
> >enough.
> > I haven't heard any other complaint about these monitors. Therefor
> >if anybody has anything to say on this, I would be grateful.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Ramesh
>
> Is your monitor power coming throught the plug on back of
> the PC, or straight from the wall? Mine comes from the wall.
> maybe that would make a difference.
It comes from the wall, through a surge protector.
> Have you tried other monitors with you system/video board
> combination? --
No problem at all with a Viewsonic 15" monitor.Or does is a 17' monitor
any diffrent?
Ramesh
=======================================================
Ramesh Doddamani
Crawford Hall, # 604
Case Western Reserve University
Cleveland OH 44106
=======================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Can I turn on/off the sound from the command-line?
Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Nov1031711@nic.gac.edu>
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Date: 1 Nov 93 03:17:11
References: <1993Oct26.174404.6180@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
In-reply-to: wissner@beech.mcs.gvsu.edu's message of Tue, 26 Oct 1993 17:44:04 GMT
In article <2ajtit$41i@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>,
schultrj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu writes:
>The only thing I ever came up with for this was the short program like
>this:
>
>#import <soundkit/soundkit.h>
>#import <appkit/publicWraps.h>
>
>void main()
>{
> [Sound setMute:YES];
> [Sound setVolume:0.94 :0.94];
> }
>
>Then compile (with the right libraries...) and put the file where you want
>it. You can make another program with setMute:NO and call it something
>else. Anybody have a better way?
Here's a little hack I wrote for someone with a similar problem:
#! /bin/sh
# This is a shell archive, meaning:
# 1. Remove everything above the #! /bin/sh line.
# 2. Save the resulting text in a file.
# 3. Execute the file with /bin/sh (not csh) to create the files:
# sndvolume.c
# This archive created: Mon Nov 1 03:09:45 1993
export PATH; PATH=/bin:$PATH
echo shar: extracting "'sndvolume.c'" '(2816 characters)'
if test -f 'sndvolume.c'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'sndvolume.c'"
else
sed 's/^X//' << \SHAR_EOF > 'sndvolume.c'
X/* sndvolume.c
X *
X * cc -g -O2 -s -object -o sndvolume sndvolume.c
X *
X * Set some volume-related sound parameters. "sndvolume" with no parameters
X *
X * Copyright 1993 Scott Hess. This source code may be redistributed
X * and modified without restriction. Well, one restriction - do not
X * claim that you wrote it.
X *
X * Scott Hess
X * 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326
X * Burnsville, MN 55337
X * (612) 895-1208
X * scott@gac.edu
X * shess@ssesco.com
X */
X#import <libc.h>
X#import <sound/utilsound.h>
X
Xvoid main( int argc, char **argv)
X{
X int left, right, on;
X SNDGetVolume( &left, &right);
X SNDGetMute( &on);
X if( argc==1) {
X printf( "left %d right %d %s\n", left, right, on ? "unmute" : "mute");
X exit( 0);
X }
X while( argc>1) {
X if( !strcasecmp( argv[ 1], "mute")) {
X if( on) {
X on=0;
X }
X } else if( !strcasecmp( argv[ 1], "unmute")) {
X if( !on) {
X on=1;
X }
X } else if( !strcasecmp( argv[ 1], "right")) {
X if( argc>2) {
X argc--;
X argv++;
X if( argv[ 1][ 0]=='+' || argv[ 1][ 0]=='-') {
X right+=atoi( argv[ 1]);
X } else if( isdigit( argv[ 1][ 0])) {
X right=atoi( argv[ 1]);
X } else {
X fprintf( stderr, "Bad volume '%s'\n", argv[ 1]);
X exit( 1);
X }
X }
X } else if( !strcasecmp( argv[ 1], "left")) {
X if( argc>2) {
X argc--;
X argv++;
X if( argv[ 1][ 0]=='+' || argv[ 1][ 0]=='-') {
X left+=atoi( argv[ 1]);
X } else if( isdigit( argv[ 1][ 0])) {
X left=atoi( argv[ 1]);
X } else {
X fprintf( stderr, "Bad volume '%s'\n", argv[ 1]);
X exit( 1);
X }
X }
X } else if( isdigit( argv[ 1][ 0])) {
X left=atoi( argv[ 1]);
X right=atoi( argv[ 1]);
X } else if( argv[ 1][ 0]=='+' || argv[ 1][ 0]=='-') {
X left+=atoi( argv[ 1]);
X right+=atoi( argv[ 1]);
X } else {
X fprintf( stderr, "Bad parameter '%s'\n", argv[ 1]);
X fprintf( stderr, "Usage:\n");
X fprintf( stderr, "sndvolume\n\tPrint out current volume status.\n");
X fprintf( stderr, "sndvolume [mute|unmute] [[left|right] [+|-]volume]\n");
X fprintf( stderr, "\tparameters may be applied multiple times in any order.\n");
X fprintf( stderr, "\tmute and unmute modify the mute status of the speaker.\n");
X fprintf( stderr, "\tleft or right specifies a channel to apply a volume change to.\n");
X fprintf( stderr, "\tabsolute volumes set the channel's volume.\n");
X fprintf( stderr, "\trelative volumes adjust the channel's volume.\n");
X fprintf( stderr, "\tif a channel is not specified, both are changed.\n");
X exit( 1);
X }
X argc--;
X argv++;
X }
X if( left<0 || left>43) {
X fprintf( stderr, "Left volume %d exceeds range.\n", left);
X exit( 1);
X }
X if( right<0 || right>43) {
X fprintf( stderr, "Right volume %d exceeds range.\n", right);
X exit( 1);
X }
X SNDSetVolume( left, right);
X SNDSetMute( on);
X exit( 0);
X}
SHAR_EOF
if test 2816 -ne "`wc -c < 'sndvolume.c'`"
then
echo shar: error transmitting "'sndvolume.c'" '(should have been 2816 characters)'
fi
fi # end of overwriting check
# End of shell archive
exit 0
Later,
--
scott hess <scott@nic.gac.edu> <I can handle NeXTMail, but don't like it>
12901 Upton Avenue South, #326 Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
<C++: ... One Language to bring them all and in the darkness bind them>
<In the Land of Redmond where the Shadows lie.>
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Nanao monitor really good?
Date: 1 Nov 1993 12:23:39 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2b2v4b$hh3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
In article <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu (Ramesh
Dodamani) writes:
> I haven't heard any other complaint about these monitors. Therefor
> if anybody has anything to say on this, I would be grateful.
>
> Thanks
I have a Nanao F550i (17") as well. I have noticed the same problem, when
you bring up a large white window the whole screen gets a little darker.
It is a bit annoying. I think that mine is bright enough. I find that
it gets a little high frequency waviness near the edges when I use my
ATI GUP (2MB VRAM Rev. 6) in 1120 x 832 mode.
Robert
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
---- NeXTmail always welcome ----
From: robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <2b2v5o$hh6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Control: cancel <2b2v5o$hh6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: 1 Nov 1993 12:27:15 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
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References: <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
7702 cancelled from NewsGrazer.
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
---- NeXTmail always welcome ----
From: robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cmsg cancel <2b2v5i$hh5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Control: cancel <2b2v5i$hh5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: 1 Nov 1993 12:27:21 GMT
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References: <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
7701 cancelled from NewsGrazer.
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
---- NeXTmail always welcome ----
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From: garyc@netcom.com (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: Mouse Switch Died...
Message-ID: <garycCFtMp3.B12@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 16:19:50 GMT
Hi,
As I constantly switch my finger on the right button instead of left.
It is becoming semi-disabled that I sometimes need to the default and my only
left right button. I am afraid there's not much life for the left either.
Anyway, has someone replaced a switch in their NeXT Mouse before? What type
of it and where can I get it? Or where can I buy a new mouse? WIll the ADB
mouse alone be compatible with the classic?
Many thanks,
Gary
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From: kcchen@grouper.micro.umn.edu (kim chen)
Subject: AMI vs NICE motherboard
Message-ID: <CFtrvv.Krq@news2.cis.umn.edu>
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Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 18:08:00 GMT
I am going to buy a EISA VESA 486 DX2/66 system for running Nextstep , OS/2
and DOS.
Now, I am considering this two boards :
1, NICE SUPEREISA (8 Eisa slots, 1 VL slots) , 256k cache.
2, AMI Enterprise III , 256k cache .
Which one is better ?
Any comment or experience ?
Thanx.
Kim
kcchen@mermaid.micro.umn.edu
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From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Subject: How to set external HD as swapdrive?
Message-ID: <1993Nov1.160207.625@ants.ci.net>
Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 16:02:07 GMT
Hi All,
I recently purchased a small external hard drive, and would like to make it a
swap drive. Is there a way I can do it? How bi would the HD need to be?
There are two in the enclosure, a 40 meg and a 20 meg? What sould I do?
Thanks in advance,
James
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From: mgrmja@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J. Allard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SUMMARY: Trouble with Quantum ELS127 drives
Date: 1 Nov 1993 19:28:08 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2b3o08$2i9@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <2aphe6$1td@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
In article <2aphe6$1td@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> I wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> We have bought a couple Quantum ProDrive 127s (ELS127S) and I am having
> trouble with them. I wrote the disk label once, but I could not write
> anything else to the disk.
>
> Now, when I try to write the disk label, I get the following (at least 4
> times):
>
>
> I have used/built numerous Quantum 120MB drives recently with no problem.
> The ELS127S is (I believe) a newer drive, and it may be attempting that
> evil synchronous mode data transfer stuff that NeXT insists on being the
> boss about. Am I just plain out of luck here?
Thanks to:
David Casti <disc@vector.intercon.com>
Max Hailperin <max@gac.edu>
They informed me of what I figured out by trial and error: The Quantum ELS
series drives do not get along with other SCSI devices when hooked to a
NeXT. Someone in our C.S. department mentioned something about Wide
SCSI-2... In any case, the drive works great as the only SCSI device.
Since we are using the drives to upgrade "diskless" cubes, this is fine for
us.
Thanks again to David and Max, and to anyone else whose replies I may not
have received yet due to the vastly temporal nature of Usenet propagation...
:-)
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From: tstojak@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Tony J Stojak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: hard drives
Date: 1 Nov 1993 20:27:41 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2b3rft$ovt@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Can anyone till me the Hard Drive limits of a NeXt Cube? It has the Mach 2.1
OS, a SCSI 53c90a controller, a Seagate 1480 internal hard drive set as target
1 and 16m of memmory. I would like to daisy chain off the internal drive with
as large a hard drive as I can.
Thanks in advance.
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From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky)
Subject: Mix and match disks
Message-ID: <dgursky.752185956@news.andi.org>
Summary: Need to locally mount disk formatted by a Sun 4/110 on an NSTC
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 20:32:36 GMT
Recently, our Sun 4 finally gave up the ghost and died (or at least it is
doing a remarkable imitation of having died...) I would now like to take
the 600 MB disk from the Sun and attach it to my NeXT. The problem is that
the NeXT does not recognize the filesystem that the Sun wrote on the disk.
Every time I try and use the disk on the NeXT, I get a message to the effect
of "Unreadable SCSI disk. Do you want to format?" (or maybe it is
"Unrecognizable SCSI disk...") In any event, I would prefer not to have to
reformat and restore a 600+ MB disk from backup tapes (especially as I'm
reasonably certain that the disk had not been backed up recently). Is there
any way to accomplish this? [The disk was mounted on the Sun as a 4.2 volume.
It only has one partition that encompasses the complete disk. The disk is a
Fujitsu M2263-512 mechanism.]
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 14:06:34 MST
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Subject: Re: Sound digitiizers
References: <vfr750CFoG48.9pA@netcom.com> <CEDMAN.93Oct30103751@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
From: feijai@kolob (Sean Luke)
In article <CEDMAN.93Oct30103751@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>CD samples are _already_ digitized. Going through a DAC and then a
>ADC is not going to improve sound quality. Fortunately some CD
>drives, notably the Toshiba 3401, the Apple CD300 and the NEC [78]4-1
>(and presumably the latest tripple and quadrupple speed versions
>hitting the market now) can read digital audio data right off the CD
>and transmit it digitally to the host computer over the SCSI bus
>without any extra hardware needed.
I wasn't aware that there was a common drive that did this--it's illegal
to digitally sample off of a CD.
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From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: Canon Bubble Jet 200
Message-ID: <CFoy0x.1o6@alembicla.com>
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <29nkmj$98d@tribune.usask.ca>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 03:36:32 GMT
In article <29nkmj$98d@tribune.usask.ca> shukin@jester.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin) writes:
!> I am trying to decide upon a printer to use with NS/FIP. I am considering
!> a Canon BJ-200 and a HP Desk Jet 500. I am aware of the program called DOTS
!> and I am wondering why the BubbleJet has been dropped from the list of
!> compatible printers. Is it because the BubbleJet can emulate the IBM
!> ProPrinter and therefore DOTS iss not needed for Output? It is my
!> opinion that the BubbleJet is a better printer and as such I am wondering
!> if I would be stuck with a incompatable printer. Be advise!
!>
For the record and to all concerned: there are several versions of Dots available
through Alembic in the US at 800.452.7608. Read on!
Dots 2.0.3 (only for Motorola) supports impact dot-matrix printers, ink-jet-printers and
non-PostScript laser printers which are connected to your NeXT computer through the
serial port or another interface:
o Epson 24-pin/24-pin wide (up to 360 x 180 dpi)
o NEC 24-pin/24-pin wide (up to 360 dpi)
o IBM Proprinter XL24 AGM, AGM wide (up to 360 dpi)
o HP LaserJet II, III, IV (up to 600 dpi)
o HP DeskJet 500 and DJ Plus (up to 300 dpi)
o HP PCL II, III, V (up to 300 dpi)
o Canon BJ-10 (up to 360 dpi)
o Canon BJ-300/330 (up to 360 dpi)
o OKI Microline, Microline wide and OL 800 (up to 360 dpi)
Price: DM 198
Dots 3.4.2 is a generic printer driver which allows you to connect different printers to
your NEXTSTEP 3.1 (Motorola and Intel)computer. Dots supports ink-jet printers,
non-PostScript laser printers, Canon CLC color laser copiers and dye diffusion thermal
transfer printers like the Seiko PhotoMaker and Shinko CHC-S445. Printers that are
connected with Dots are available throughout the network. There are seven different
versions of Dots 3.4.1:
Dots Mono supports HP monochrome printers through the serial port:
o HP LaserJet II, III, IV and compatible
o HP DeskJet 500/510 and compatible
Price: DM 198
Dots Color supports the Hewlett Packard Deskjet 500C and 550C through the serial port.
Price: DM 298
Dots PCL5 Color supports the HP DeskJet 1200C and HP PaintJet XL/XL 300 through the
serial port.
Price: DM 398
Dots RTL Color supports the HP DesignJet 600/650 through the serial port.
Price: DM 798
Dots TS supports the Seiko PhotoMaker through the SCSI port.
Price: DM 798
Dots CLC10 and Dots CLC500 allows you to connect the line of Canon Color Laser Copiers CJ
10, CLC 300 and CLC 500 to your computer. These brilliant color printers are also usable
as a scanner or copier. For that reason the Canon CLC is an ideal peripheral for a
NEXTSTEP Computer.
Pricing: Dots CLC10 DM 1398
Dots CLC500 DM 1998
(incl. scan application)
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From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: Compatible modems?
Message-ID: <CFoy9n.1p3@alembicla.com>
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <1993Oct22.224631.6634@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 03:41:47 GMT
In article <1993Oct22.224631.6634@midway.uchicago.edu> dennis@agincourt.uchicago.edu
(Dennis Jenks) writes:
!> I'm trying to find a modem that will work with NEXTSTEP on an NEC
!> Ultralite Versa laptop computer. I tried Megahertz's XJ196FM which is not
!> compatible according to Megahertz. Any suggestions?
!>
I have a NEC Ultalite Versa and have successfully been using a SupraFAXModem V.32bis with
it since the day I bought it.
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From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: Video frame grabber for NS486
Message-ID: <CFp0tM.1uI@alembicla.com>
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <CEzt4q.4Dx@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1993 04:36:57 GMT
In article <CEzt4q.4Dx@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> optadm7@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (J.Cassidy -
Optometry) writes:
!> I have yet to find a vendor for frame grabbers for NeXTSTEP
!> on the Intel platform. This is very frustrating, as to
!> do our image analysis, we must grab the video information
!> on DOS based machines, then transfer that information to
!> NeXTSTEP.
!>
!> If anyone has any leads on this kind of hardware, or even
!> better if a hardware vendor is reading this group, I would
!> appreciate a phone number.
!>
Screen Machine II is a real-time video digitizer, that digitizes images in true-color or
gray scales and works with NSFIP 3.1. It is available from Alembic Systems 800.452.7608
info@alembic.com.
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F: 310.371.0886
From: Ed.Bailey@launchpad.unc.edu (Ed Bailey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Ultra XLR can't do high-res color..
Date: 1 Nov 1993 21:19:08 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2b3ugc$iie@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Hello all,
I recently got the update 1 ATI driver, and find that my Ultra XLR
still can't do any color display better than 800X600. According to the
readme that I got with the updated driver, it appears that the driver can
decide not to permit hi-res color operation if it detects any of a number
of conditions:
1. Low-end DAC chips. Here's what my DAC chip has written on it:
ATI68875
BFN
980
2337820 9311XN
(Could be wrong, but it looks like an ATI68875 to me...:-) )
2. Less than 2Mb of VRAM. Well, the XLR has 2Mb of DRAM (More on
this later)...
3. Old revision Mach32 chips. Here's what on my Mach32 chip:
2106880006
CF64989APPA 980
V 70080 9337
(Revision 6 chip? I don't know - Any gurus out there able to read
this?)
4. Old revision DAC chips. Don't know what revision mine is -
Hello Gurus?
The readme also mentioned insufficient video memory bandwidth, but this
sounded more like a "poor picture quality problem" rather than a "driver
won't let you do it" problem. I imagine that having the DRAM-based XLR
might be a bit of a lose versus the VRAM-based 'Pro, but would it be a
show-stopper?
So, is there a way to get the updated driver to accept that my XLR can
display hi-res color without catching on fire, or is the XLR so different
from past ATI boards that another update to the driver is required?
Thanks,
Ed
Nextmail: ed@moocow.niehs.nih.gov
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From: bbrown@solana.com
Subject: HP LaserJet I (the original classic)
Content-Type: text/plain
Sender: usenet@mv.mv.com (Robert Chesler)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 18:18:20 GMT
Message-ID: <geetha.93Nov1181820@ganesha>
HI,
An HP LaserJet (1) just got dropped in my lap.
I want to get it connected to my PC running NS 3.1. So,
here are some questions.
Where do I find a driver for this beast?
Can I use a regular parrallel cable to connect it
to my Intel machine?
Is anyone out there good at discribing how to fix
paperjams from the paper tray? I have not
yet tried to fix this problem, but, I will soon.
Thanks Much.
Bill Brown
bbrown@solana.com
From: kurrer@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu (Christian Kurrer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Mouse Switch Died...
Date: 2 Nov 1993 00:40:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2b4aa2$hfm@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <garycCFtMp3.B12@netcom.com>
In article <garycCFtMp3.B12@netcom.com> garyc@netcom.com (Gary I. Chang)
writes:
>...
>Anyway, has someone replaced a switch in their NeXT Mouse before? What
type
> of it and where can I get it?
Just open your mouse and just look at the switch to see what model it is
and who manufactured it. When I repaired a mouse some time ago, I needed a
"D2F-01 Subminiature Basicswitch" manufactured by Omron. (I would guess
that they used the same switches in all mices).
The only warehouse I could find that carried this switch was Allied
Electronics (1-800-433-5700). The switch costs about a dollar, but they
require you to order for a total of at least $25.
Basic soldering skills will suffice to remove the old switch and solder in
the new one.
Christian Kurrer
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From: flunau@newtown (Frederic J. Lunau)
Subject: NeXT Cube 040 for sale
Message-ID: <1993Nov1.133337.29353@biztech.com>
Sender: news@biztech.com
Organization: Biztech, Inc.
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1993 13:33:37 GMT
A friend of mine wants to sell his NeT Cube 040, mono, 25MHz, Optical
drive, 16MB RAM, 330MB disk, NeXT laser printer (400 dpi).
Please respond to Ken Segall at (914) 591-7499.
--
Fred Lunau
Systems Consultant, NeXT Computer, Inc.
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: EtherlinkIII trouble
Date: 2 Nov 1993 01:33:21 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <2b4dd1$92q@gamera.umd.edu>
References: <1993Oct27.082412.9091@leland.Stanford.EDU> <CFKx6A.9sy@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>
dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca (Dennis S. Breckenridge) writes:
>mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach) writes:
>>Hi folks!
>>I've got a NS/FIP machine using AMI BIOS, 256K cache,
>>Intel DX2/66 processor, 16MB ram, 1.2gig Toshiba SCSI
>>HD, Sony 541 CD-ROM drive, 1.44 floppy, ATI Ultra Pro
>>VLB with 2MB VRAM, ProAudio 16 sound card, Adaptec 1542B
>>SCSI card, and an Etherlink III network card.
>>Anybody seen this problem before? Even if you haven't
>>yet fixed it, please let me know, so I don't feel so
>>much like I'm screaming in the dark at this problem. :-)
>I have a NS/FIP 3.1 machine with AMI BIOS, 256k cache,
>Intel 486 DX2/66, 16 megs 60ns ram, 1.1 gigs of Fujitsu
>2266a, Toshiba 3401, Adaptec 1542B, and a 3C509 card as
>well.
>I cannot put this machine on my network at all. As soon
>as I start sending or receiving data my machine panics.
>I would like to be able to use this card as I probably
>own about 200 of them now.
>Is there a file (other than messages) that records the
>panic message. It's a little tough to read all of the
>diatribe that NS/FIP screams with it's last moan of screen
>writes in the 1" by 1" window at at 56 kilobaud during
>the panic :-)
>--
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dennis Breckenridge Microsoft Windoze. Genetic throwback from the
>dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca natural selection of UNIX.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The 3C509 Etherlink III driver under NS3.1 is horribly broken.
It will crash your system left and right (and sideways!). We
switched to an SMC ELITE (new version of the WD8013EBT, this
is a WD8013EPT) card and it works fine, no crashes and performance
is reasonable (although I can tell NS3.1 needs some definite performance
tuning in the networking area).
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From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Sound digitiizers
Message-ID: <CFuGv8.I3B@news.cis.umn.edu>
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References: <vfr750CFoG48.9pA@netcom.com> <CEDMAN.93Oct30103751@capitalist.princeton.edu> <j+%@byu.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 03:08:48 GMT
Sean Luke (feijai@kolob) wrote:
: I wasn't aware that there was a common drive that did this--it's illegal
: to digitally sample off of a CD.
Is it also illegal connect the digital out on the back of my CD player to
my digital tape deck? (My outboard PCM-601 has a better DACs than my CD
player for listening.) Can I make a backup of my CD? Ok, what was going
to be done with the soundfile. Maybe that's what is illegal.
dig.
peter
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From: burns@nova.bellcore.com (James E. Burns)
Subject: Re: Ports A and B differ on 68040 Cube???
Message-ID: <BURNS.93Nov1220537@wildcat.nova.bellcore.com>
Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communication Research
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 03:05:38 GMT
Art Isbell was kind enough to reply to my previous queries about
the apparent oddness of the A & B ports on my 68040 NeXTCube.
My mailer couldn't figure out how to respond to to art@cubicsol.com,
so I hope he see this (and gets my thanks).
My original queries are marked by >> and his (editted) responses by >.
>> I have been going nuts the last couple of weeks trying to get SLIP
>> to drop my connection when I slipdown. Finally, I got hold of a
>> line tester and found that DTR was not being raised. While messing
>> around, I found that it DID get raised on port A (I happen to have
>> used port B). If you can shed some light on this please answer to
>> give me some peace of mind.
>
>I had the same problem and NeXT replaced my 68040 CPU board under warranty
>(actually, my board was 2 weeks out of its year warranty, but NeXT
>replaced it with no argument). NeXT guessed from my description that
>serial port had gone bad (it worked for almost a year). I don't know
>for a fact that this was actually the case, but a bad serial port
>on an early 68040 board didn't seem to surprise NeXT and was what NeXT
>suspected.
Thanks a lot for replying. I don't think the ports "went bad".
As far as I can tell, they have always worked as they do now.
Both have flow control, so I guess they are not 68030 ports.
The Mac modem cable doesn't have flow control lines, but otherwise
it is wired like the Next Null-Modem cable as specified. That is,
mini-DIN pin 1 goes to DB-25 pin 8 and pin 2 goes to pin20.
The cable specs in the "Cable and Modem Configuration" chapter
specifies the reverse for a NeXT-to-Modem cable. This is what
I ordered, but it doesn't work at all unless I put in a null
modem block to get the effect of what the doc's call a NeXT
Null-Modem cable.
>> 2. When I finally got a 14.4 modem, I ordered the flow control
>> cable as specified in the zs man page (and posted here many
>> times). I verified that the cable is wired correctly using
>> a multimeter, but it didn't work. Acting on a hunch, I put
>> in a null-modem block & the cable works correctly.
>
>Hmmm. I don't understand this unless you've got a bad serial port.
>The flow control modem should work correctly if it's wired correctly
>as you indicate.
After booting, both ports A and B give -5v on mini-DIN pin 2
(which goes to DTR on pin 20 using the null-modem block).
When connecting to the port (say, using tip on /dev/cufa or
/dev/cufb), port A raises DTR (i.e., pin 2 goes to +5v), but
port B does not. I can still use port B, but I can't get the
line to hangup when I close down tip, or whatever. This is
far, far out of warranty & I guess it is not too disastrous,
so I guess I'll have to live with it.
Art, thanks for responding. If anyone else sees this and has
anything to add I would be delighted to here from them.
jim
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From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Sound digitiizers
Date: 2 Nov 1993 04:59:47 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2b4pg3$q33@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <vfr750CFoG48.9pA@netcom.com> <CEDMAN.93Oct30103751@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <CEDMAN.93Oct30103751@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
>In article <vfr750CFoG48.9pA@netcom.com> vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung) writes:
> Does anyone have any suggestions for equipment used to digitize sounds
> on a slab?
>
> I would like to digitize some CD samples, but hanging a microphone over
> my stereo speakers seems awkward at best (and low res at worst).
>
>CD samples are _already_ digitized. Going through a DAC and then a
>ADC is not going to improve sound quality. Fortunately some CD
>drives, notably the Toshiba 3401, the Apple CD300 and the NEC [78]4-1
>(and presumably the latest tripple and quadrupple speed versions
>hitting the market now) can read digital audio data right off the CD
>and transmit it digitally to the host computer over the SCSI bus
>without any extra hardware needed. Unfortunately these drives
>implement that ability incompatibly so that you'd need a different
>program for every one of them. To the best of my knowledge example
>code on how to do this is only available for the Toshiba 3401 in the
>play3401 package to be found on cs.orst.edu and nova.cc.purdue.edu.
>
As a followup, if anybody has gotten this program to compile and work on an
intel system, please speak up! The current program only works on NeXT
hardware.
Varun
From: blast@crl.com (Tim Keanini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Compatible hardware list for NS/I
Date: 1 Nov 1993 21:41:51 -0800
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Message-ID: <2b4ruv$7c5@crl.crl.com>
Keywords: Compatible
Hi, I am new to this list.
I would like to know of a FTP site or somewhere where I could get a hold
of a chart of 486 hardware and peripherals that will be compatible with
NeXTStep/Intel 3.x. I just got the package and would like to start
putting everything together.
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From: mgilula@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu (Marshall Gilula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 3.6G Micropolis HD will format for Mac but not for NeXT
Date: 1 Nov 1993 17:52:15 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Message-ID: <9311012352.AA02929@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu>
When I received my 3.6G Micropolis hd (actually formats to 2882 MB)
I was surprised that NeXT BuildDisk wouldn't see it straight off as
had been the case last year when I plugged and built immediately with
a Seagate 2.4G. My Console gave an error that read,
"boot block extends beyond front porch"
whenever I tried to format or initialize this hd
Doing a low-leve format and retrying mucho times had no effect. it
was always the same problem. Even when the drive was formatted and
initialized as a Mac drive, and it would see one partition of the
tw0-partitioned mac drive, I would not be allowed to initialize or
build this disk and would receive the above error.
Anyone out there in netland have experience with this puppy? either
the hd or the error message that I received?
Flames, private email, or whatever, all appreciated.
-73-
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From: burns@nova.bellcore.com (James E. Burns)
Subject: Comparison: DEC DSP3105S & Seagate ST11200N
Message-ID: <BURNS.93Nov2010904@wildcat.nova.bellcore.com>
Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communication Research
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 06:09:04 GMT
I recently purchased and installed a DEC DSP3105 hard drive on
my NeXTCube (running NeXTSTEP 3.1, 28MB). I also have a borrowed
Seagate ST11200N on the same system, and I thought the
comp.sys.next.hardware might be interested in a comparison.
The DEC drive came from Peripheral Solutions (800-ALL-DISK) for
$1050+shipping. [Larry Cohen & their tech staff have been very
helpful.] This includes a NeXT-black case. The Seagate
was from Parity (for a Sun) & is in a platinum case. Peripheral
also has the Seagate for $1149. As you will see, you might find
the extra $100 worthwhile.
Interestingly, the DEC drive is quieter while idling, but is noisier
when seeking. Of course, the idle speed is primarily due to fan
noise and Peripheral Solutions version of the Seagate might be as quiet.
The main advantages of the Seagate are:
1. Formatted capacity 64000KB greater.
2. Can be reformatted to 1024 byte sectors. The DEC drive
requires factory formatting & cannot be changed in the field.
(It is possible to order the drive from DEC with 1K sectors.)
Reformatting gleans an extra 47500KB.
Anyway, here are the size details from df. (Note the size difference
on the ST11200 is just because I did not rebuild it exactly the same
way both times.) The XT8380S is my original internal drive, a Maxtor 345MB.
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/sd0a 345711 160582 167843 49% /XT8380S
/dev/sd1a 991123 775395 116615 87% /DSP3105S
/dev/sd2a 1007581 770791 136031 85% /ST11200N-512
/dev/sd2a 1055167 795063 154587 84% /ST11200N-1024
My speed tests show the two drives a toss-up on this parameter.
(I haven't done raw speed test -- I think real-life examples are
a fairly good measure.) They are explained below.
Here are the time comparisons.
cp.test copies a series of large files.
tar.test uncompresses and untars a large archive.
two.test runs both cp.test and tar.test at the same time.
cc.test is a compilation test. [This is almost all CPU time.]
All times are the average of 5 runs. For those interested,
more details on the tests are given below. As you can see,
the times for the larger drives do not differ significantly.
It is possible that tuning could improve things, but I don't
have the technical data to try.
Summary: cp.test tar.test two.test cc.test
XT8380S 0:27 1:12 1:50 *
DSP3105S 0:15 0:49 1:19 2:54
ST11200N-512 0:22 0:49 1:21 2:58
ST11200N-1024 0:14 0:52 1:11 2:55
*- The Developer package is not installed on the internal disk
cp.test: copy the following four files to /tmp and then remove them
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 2711923 Oct 13 1992 gcc-1.42.tar.Z
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 1577946 Nov 11 1992 ghostscript-2.5.2.tar.Z
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 1775702 Oct 17 21:03 gnuc.tar.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 906855 Oct 13 1992 perl-4.035.tar.Z
tar.test: zcat & un-tar the above perl archive. Then remove it.
/usr/ucb/zcat perl-4.035.tar.Z | tar xf -
/bin/rm -r perl-4.035
cc.test: make & make clean for jpegsrc.v4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 459539 Oct 30 17:26 jpegsrc.v4.tar.Z
jim burns
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From: rcfa@andi.org (Ronald C.F. Antony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sound digitiizers
Date: 2 Nov 1993 08:35:22 GMT
Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 884-9002 GUEST
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2b564a$rqv@paperboy.ids.net>
References: <j+%@byu.edu>
In article <j+%@byu.edu> writes:
> I wasn't aware that there was a common drive that did this--it's illegal
> to digitally sample off of a CD.
Digitally sampling by itself is hardly illegal. It may be illegal to copy
whole works this way unless you have got the right to do so, but the mere
act of taking samples off a CD is not illegal (or the legal system should
be nuked).
Besides, there is no difference between digitally copying from CD to DAT
and sampling off the CD onto a disk.
Hey, I just wait until we have to pay the harddisk tax, now that we are
already confronted with the DAT tax ...
-- Ronald
==============================================================================
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists
in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the
unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw
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rcfa@cubiculum.com rcfa@NeXT-BUG.org rcfa@ANDI.org rcfa@sleepy.cis.brown.edu
ave got the right to do so, but the mere
act of taking samples off a CD is not illegal (or the legal system should
be nuked).
Besides, there is no difference between digitally copying from CD to DAT
and sampling off the CD onto a disk.
Hey, I just wait until we have to pay the harddisk tax, now that we are
already confronted with the DAT tax ...
-- Ronald
==============================================================================
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists
in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the
unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: lange@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: Recognizng newly-formatted Fujitsu M2263S?
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Message-ID: <1993Nov02.092712.28205@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 93 09:27:12 GMT
I've just formatted an external Fujitsu M2263S to 1024 byte sectors on black
hardware using Rory Bolt's "Formatter" program from the archives.
Unfortunately, I'm having a difficult time figuring out how to initialize
it now, since the system isn't seeming to recognize it. Having the Fujitsu
turned when trying to boot (using bsd(1,0,0) and bsd(1,0,0)-a in the monitor)
causes the boot to crash ("Can't read label on /dev/rsd0a" "(null pointer):
Can't check for file system"... "Reboot failed:...help!").
I then system booted off the internal drive with the external is turned off,
and then turned the external on while the system was up (probably dangerous).
"Formatter" recognizes it at SCSI ID 0, but nothing else does. The system
itself, however, doesn't recognize it, and has the internal shown as
/dev/sd0a in /etc/fstab. I tried this both a 2.1 and a 3.1 system
NeXTStation.
So, how can I get the system to recognize/mount my formatted but uninitialized
external? And then what should I do to initialize and label it? (It looks
like /etc/disk holds the key, but I don't want to mess around with that and
chance erasing my internal without knowing what I'm doing).
Many thanks in advance,
- Trent Lange
lange@cs.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: powhwee@ncb.gov.sg (Tan Pow Hwee)
Subject: ET4000 and memory allocated
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.115412.13782@iti.gov.sg>
Sender: news@iti.gov.sg (News Admin)
Organization: National Computer Board, Singapore
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 11:54:12 GMT
Howdy,
I am posting this for someone who is trying to figure out why
his ET4000 does not support 1024x768 (he has tried a NEC6FG monitor
and VL-bus ET4000 as well to no avail). Please enlighten since I have
a ET4000 that does not work at 1024x768 too. :-).
---
When I select the ET4000 driver in Config.appp, I tells me that it sets
aside 128 Kb at some address. If this number translates to display memory,
it seems to be too small: 1024 * 768 * 2bit / 8 = 196608 bytes = 192 Kb.
For some of the other drivers there seems to be a more consistent relation
between resolution and memory-need. But then again, it seems strange that some
people has managed to make it work...
[some lines deleted]
Claus
+---------------------------+---------------------+---------------------------+
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| Software Engineer | Run Time is | Vindingvej 2C |
| Euromax Newspaper Systems | Fun Time!!! | DK-7100 Vejle |
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Does anyone has any explanations?
ph
From: chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Graphic Ultra Pro ISA
Date: 2 Nov 1993 12:53:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2b5l86$bsh@galaxy.ucr.edu>
How does a ISA verion of ATI Graphic Ultra Pro compares to a
Vesa Local Bus verion? What is the difference in performance?
I have searched all over and couldn't find any dealer carrying
ATI Graphic Ultra Pro VLB version. If you know any dealer carries
ATI GUP VLB please let me know about it. I am really tired with
the 640x480 resolution. Please help!
By the way is Diamond Stealth Pro a good choice for NeXTSTEP?
Where could I find a driver for its 928 chipset?
Thanks again!
---
chi@watserv.ucr.edu
Far East Asian Connection, Taiwan<->US direct BBS Connection, (909)781-4066
From: chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Corrupted NeXTSTEP/FIP boot disk
Date: 2 Nov 1993 12:56:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2b5leg$bsh@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Where can I get a copy of NEXTSTEP/FIP boot disk? Could I ask
NeXT to replace the bad bootup disk I got? Or could I download
it somewhere from the net?
p.s. how do I duplicate a BOOTUP disk in NeXTSTEP?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: > How to set SCSI ID for Fujitsu M2694A 1.08G drive ?
Message-ID: <CFurF7.HIw@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 06:59:31 GMT
Since Erik Dasque suggested me to summarize, here it comes:
The M2694ESA drive, the suffix "A" means preformatted with 512 bytes/block.
The manual says it is 1.083G, after initialized by NS3.1 and mounted,
the file viewer says it has 900MB free. Reformat it with the
"formatter" s/w should give you about 5% i.e. 45MB more space.
Larry Gadallah said, with 1k blocks it formats out to 1094 Mb (I didn't
do yet).
In order to be able to boot from it, you must disable the synchronus
transfer mode. The layout of the actual drive may be different from
the instruction booklet. My drive is:
Model M2694ESA
P/N B03B-7295-B116A#NP
S/N 500475 Date 1993-07
Rev. NO. A 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
= = = = = =
According to Matthew, my drive's jumper:
The *CNH11* jumpers encode the binary digits of the SCSI id. Hence,
to set the ID to 1 you want to put in jumper 1-2 and pull out 3-4 and
5-6. Reset the CNH10 jumpers (put the jumpers in) --- these affect
the SCSI termination.
The CNH10 jumpers have the following meanings:
1-2 (reserved) should be IN
3-4 Termination power should be IN
5-6 Termination power should be IN
The CNH11 jumpers have the following meanings:
1-2 SCSI ID bit 0 (1)
3-4 SCSI ID bit 1 (2)
5-6 SCSI ID bit 2 (4)
7-8 Write protect on should be IN
9-10 (reserved) should be OUT
Disable the synchronous transfer mode
=====================================
Locate SW1 dip switches on base of drive, and set switch 6 to 'off'.
You might have to disable synchronous transfer mode however you use the
drive --- Matthew hadn't found an authorative answer to this yet.
Thanks to Matthew Seaman
SK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: feedback on removable media devices
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.145358.17831@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 14:53:58 GMT
I'm thinking of getting a new removable media device, probably a 3.5" MO.
Though, a SyQuest or Bournolli drive might be ok. Could folks that have
those types of devices plugged into their NS/Intel machines drop me a note
with their experiences. I will summarize and repost if there is enought
feedback.
Thanks,
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
Voice: 919.783.7033
From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Faxing with ZyXEL - connections never made?
Date: 2 Nov 1993 14:29:17 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Message-ID: <2b5qrt$hq6@newsflash.mitre.org>
I've used the public domain ZyXEL fax modem driver to attempt to set
up my NeXT for outbound fax transmissions. I configured the modem,
added the driver, changed the device in Netinfo, and added a fax modem
through the printmanager, exactly as the included instructions called
for. However, no matter what fax modem I attempt to send to, I always
get the same error message (sent to me through mail):
"...number did not answer, or was answered by something other than
a fax machine."
Now, I know that the fax numbers that I've tried have answered, because
I don't scheduled retries, as one would for a busy number.
Anybody have any idea what is going wrong? Any help is greatly appre-
ciated.
- Max
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: Nanao monitor really good?
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.151229.9881@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
References: <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 15:12:29 GMT
In article <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu writes:
>
> Recently we bought two 486 EISA systems with NS loaded. Based on the
> positive comments about the Nanao monitor we order these monitors with the
> systems. These monitors(F550i) have an odd problem that, when a big window
> (like a terminal window or the file viewer) is brought on screen, the
> overall brightness of the monitor reduces. This is simply irritating. One
> of the monitors was not bright enough, and therefore got a replacement.
> The second monitor that we originally got has the left portion of the
> screen brighter than the right. All these monitors have the screen dimming
> problem that I mentioned above. I also feel that the screen is not bight
> enough.
> I haven't heard any other complaint about these monitors. Therefor
> if anybody has anything to say on this, I would be grateful.
I've purchased two Nanao 550iW monitors and have been very pleased with
the image quality when used with Intel HW. With black HW, the 550iW
cannot be adjusted for edge-to-edge display, and the color saturation
seems to be a little subdued. I imagine my observations for black
HW are due to some artifact of the video differences on black HW. I
have zero complaints when the 550iW is used with Intel HW--the image
quality is as good as I've seen. I have not observed any of the
problems mentioned above on white or black HW with the 550iW.
Perhaps the $200 or so extra for a 550iW, instead of the 550i, would
be money well spent.
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Mouse Switch Died...
Message-ID: <CFunMI.4o8@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <garycCFtMp3.B12@netcom.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 05:37:29 GMT
In article <garycCFtMp3.B12@netcom.com> garyc@netcom.com (Gary I. Chang)
writes:
#Hi,
#
# As I constantly switch my finger on the right button instead of left.
#It is becoming semi-disabled that I sometimes need to the default and my only
#left right button. I am afraid there's not much life for the left either.
#Anyway, has someone replaced a switch in their NeXT Mouse before? What type
#of it and where can I get it? Or where can I buy a new mouse? WIll the ADB
#mouse alone be compatible with the classic?
An Amiga or Atari ST mouse with a cable hack will work.
I currently use an Atari/Amiga Kraft trackball with
my non-ADB cube.
But if that is not what you would like to do here is the original
post that someone had that has your problem.
Begin Included --------------------
In article <1993Mar23.202909.24973@qb.rhein-main.de> vhs@qb.rhein-main.de
writes:
>Help!
>The left button of my NeXT mouse (old style) broke, and I can't get a
>replacement mouse any more. [...] The part is an
> OMRON 1668RAE
> D2F - 01
My left mouse button also broke several months ago, and I also
couldn't find an exact replacement for the button inside my mouse.
But I did find a switch that works just dandy. It's made by Cherry.
According to the Digi-Key catalog I have in front of me, the Cherry
part number is:
DG2C-B1AA
The Digi-Key part number is:
CH167-ND
Digi-Key's phone number for orders (including catalog requests I
presume) is 1-800-DIGIKEY. Their service number is (218) 681-6674.
Perhaps you can find this switch in Germany, and I hope this helps
everybody else as their old mice start to wear out.
Mike
End Included ------------------------------------
Hope this helps.
Kent
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From: chuck@benatong.com (Charles G. Bennett)
Subject: WAS: Battery Backup/smart UPS (long)
Message-ID: <CFrr8M.Mvv@BenaTong.com>
Sender: usenet@BenaTong.com
Organization: BenaTong Software.
References: <2arejp$jlg@Tut.MsState.Edu>
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 16:02:46 GMT
In article <2arejp$jlg@Tut.MsState.Edu> crj2@Isis.MsState.Edu (Charles R.
Jones) writes:
> Okay my previous post about the Tripp-Lite UPS had a huge error, so I am
> posting this update.
>
[munch]
> *NOTE* This is a "smart UPS" not just a backup, which means that when the
> power goes out it does not have to switch to the batteries, which means
> no chance of your computer or modem balking from the slight voltage drop.
> It also keeps the line voltage at 115v no matter if brownout or transient
> power fluctuations.
>
> mail offers to crj2@isis.msstate.edu or just whack [r] and reply from News.
>
>
Not to pick at nit's but you must mean that it is an ON-LINE UPS not a STANDBY
UPS.. A Smart-UPS has a serial protocol and can be queried for data etc...
(Actually Smart-UPS is a registered trademark of American Power Conversion)
Here is a shell archive that contains upsruntimes.ps
it can provide a guide to selecting a UPS based on your total VA load.
RUN TIMES...
#! /bin/sh
# This is a shell archive, meaning:
# 1. Remove everything above the #! /bin/sh line.
# 2. Save the resulting text in a file.
# 3. Execute the file with /bin/sh (not csh) to create the files:
# upsruntimes.ps
# This archive created: Sun Oct 31 11:01:11 1993
# By: cgb ()
export PATH; PATH=/bin:$PATH
if test -f 'upsruntimes.ps'
then
echo shar: will not over-write existing file "'upsruntimes.ps'"
else
cat << \SHAR_EOF > 'upsruntimes.ps'
%!PS-Adobe-2.0
%%Title:
%%Creator: Improv
%%CreationDate: Sun Oct 31 10:57:01 1993
%%For: chuck
%%DocumentFonts: (atend)
%%Pages: (atend) 1
%%BoundingBox: (atend)
%%Orientation: Portrait
%%NXNextStepVersion: 3.0
%%EndComments
%%BeginProcSet: /usr/lib/NextStep/printPackage.ps 3.0
%!
% NeXT Printing Package
% Version: 3.1
% Copyright: 1988, NeXT, Inc.
/__NXdef{1 index where{pop pop pop}{def}ifelse}bind def
/__NXbdef{1 index where{pop pop pop}{bind def}ifelse}bind def
/UserObjects 10 array __NXdef
/defineuserobject{
exch dup 1 add dup UserObjects length gt{
array dup 0 UserObjects putinterval
/UserObjects exch def
}{pop}ifelse UserObjects exch 3 -1 roll put
}__NXbdef
/undefineuserobject{UserObjects exch null put}__NXbdef
/execuserobject{UserObjects exch get exec}__NXbdef
/__NXRectPath{4 2 roll moveto 1 index 0 rlineto
0 exch rlineto neg 0 rlineto closepath}__NXbdef
/__NXProcessRectArgs{
1 index type /arraytype eq{
exch 0 4 2 index length 1 sub{
dup 3 add 1 exch{1 index exch get exch}for
5 1 roll 5 index exec
}for pop pop
}{exec}ifelse
}__NXbdef
/rectfill{gsave newpath {__NXRectPath fill} __NXProcessRectArgs
grestore}__NXbdef
/rectclip{newpath {__NXRectPath} __NXProcessRectArgs clip newpath}__NXbdef
/rectstroke{
gsave newpath dup type /arraytype eq{dup length 6 eq}{false}ifelse{
{gsave __NXRectPath null concat stroke grestore}
dup length array cvx copy dup 2 4 -1 roll put
__NXProcessRectArgs
}{{__NXRectPath stroke} __NXProcessRectArgs}ifelse grestore
}__NXbdef
/_NXLevel2 systemdict /languagelevel known {languagelevel 2 ge}{false}ifelse
__NXdef
/xyshow{
0 1 3 index length 1 sub{
currentpoint 4 index 3 index 1 getinterval show
3 index 3 index 2 mul 1 add get add exch
3 index 3 index 2 mul get add exch moveto pop
}for pop pop
}__NXbdef
/xshow{
0 1 3 index length 1 sub{
currentpoint 4 index 3 index 1 getinterval show
exch 3 index 3 index get add exch moveto pop
}for pop pop
}__NXbdef
/yshow{
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MOST UPS's provide 5 min's at full load.
Chuck
>
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> | Charles R. Jones II ,__o -UH OH! o__, Mississippi State
|
> | Computer Engineering _-\_<, ,>_/-_ University
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> | crj2@ra.msstate.edu (*)/'(*) (*)`\(*) Starkville, Ms
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> |
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>
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>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: chuck@benatong.com (Charles G. Bennett)
Subject: Re: Recommendation for APC UPS450 or UPS600 needed...
Message-ID: <CFrrBG.Mwy@BenaTong.com>
Sender: usenet@BenaTong.com
Organization: BenaTong Software.
References: <CFBEK6.Ay5@eecs.nwu.edu>
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 16:04:28 GMT
In article <CFBEK6.Ay5@eecs.nwu.edu> garyc@news.eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
writes:
> Hi,
>
> The power line here in my apt has been so unstable that I will
> definitely need a UPS to save my disk and efferts. Can anyone recommend
> a proper size of UPS in terms of Watts? From APC UPS lines, they got:
>
> BK250B 250 VA, 170W 2-outlets
> BK400B 400 VA, 250W 2-outlets
> BK450 450 VA, 300W 4-outlets
> BK600 600 VA, 400W 4-outlets
> BK900 900 VA, 630W 6-outlets
>
> My primary system involves a NeXTStation Color with 17" Color Monitor,
> Plus a 1GB external SCSI drive in a 3.5" enclosure. I will only need it for
> around 5 mins BACKUP time so that I could shutdown the system properly in
time.
>
> Any suggestions or recommendation for good price are highly
appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Gary
See my post in response to <> FORSALE: Battery Backup/smart UPS [UPDATE]
I included a postscript shell archive that gives some guidlines on selecting
a ups with the proper rating.
Chuck
From: Bill.Wolf@utibbs.chigate.com (Bill Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI Cards, etc.
Message-ID: <752261431.AA00395@Chigate.chigate.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1993 20:39:01 -0600
I have an adaptec AHA1510 SCSI Card. Will this work under NSFIP?
it's connected to a Tallgrass FS1300 (basically a Wangtek
1.3gig/2.6gig DAT Drive).
I'm holding off the purchase of NSFIP until I settle on a vesa lb
video card. (Suggestions anyone?)
But what support does NSFIP have for this DAT drive? Also, I'm
looking into purchasing a ethernet card for this machine. Are there
any specific ones that I should be looking into buying? Or will
virtually everyone out there be supported under nsfip?
Thanks
Bill
* Origin: UTI - Always on tap! 16.8k Dual (815) 942-2930 (1:11/120)
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From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Re: ATI Graphic Ultra Pro ISA
Message-ID: <dcodeCFvK7z.9A6@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <2b5l86$bsh@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 17:21:34 GMT
In article <2b5l86$bsh@galaxy.ucr.edu> chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang) writes:
> How does a ISA verion of ATI Graphic Ultra Pro compares to a
>Vesa Local Bus verion? What is the difference in performance?
>
> I have searched all over and couldn't find any dealer carrying
>ATI Graphic Ultra Pro VLB version. If you know any dealer carries
>ATI GUP VLB please let me know about it. I am really tired with
>the 640x480 resolution. Please help!
>
> By the way is Diamond Stealth Pro a good choice for NeXTSTEP?
>Where could I find a driver for its 928 chipset?
>
>Thanks again!
There's a dealer in Sunnyvale that carries it.
NCA Computer Products
(408) 739-9010
1202 Kifer Rd
Sunnyvale, CA
Paul
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Pro Audio Spectrum 16 - Problem
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.164127.260@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 16:41:27 GMT
Does anyone who is using this sound card have the following behavior.
Sporadically, the speakers pop. It is not loud, but just a low level
burst.
I had the repeat problem and changed the IRG to 15 and that corrected that
problem.
Sorry if this has been covered.
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From: dillon@moonshot.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Nanao monitor really good?
Date: 2 Nov 1993 11:04:17 -0800
Organization: Obvious Implementations Corp
Distribution: world
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References: <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <1993Nov2.151229.9881@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
In article <1993Nov2.151229.9881@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> lmccullo@nyx.UUCP (Michael McCulloch) writes:
:In article <2as7a3$1b5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ramesh@bodhi.esys.cwru.edu writes:
:>
:> Recently we bought two 486 EISA systems with NS loaded. Based on the
:> positive comments about the Nanao monitor we order these monitors with the
:
:I've purchased two Nanao 550iW monitors and have been very pleased with
:the image quality when used with Intel HW. With black HW, the 550iW
:cannot be adjusted for edge-to-edge display, and the color saturation
:seems to be a little subdued. I imagine my observations for black
:HW are due to some artifact of the video differences on black HW. I
:have zero complaints when the 550iW is used with Intel HW--the image
:quality is as good as I've seen. I have not observed any of the
:problems mentioned above on white or black HW with the 550iW.
:
:Perhaps the $200 or so extra for a 550iW, instead of the 550i, would
:be money well spent.
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:Michael McCulloch
:michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
:Huntsville, Alabama
We have two F550i-W's as well (17"), both running on 486 boxes, and it's
a wonderful monitor. I have not had any problems whatsoever and the
image quality is very, very good.
One thing I've found out playing with X windows under linux, though, is
that changing the syncing stuff can make a big difference in the quality
of the display. I'm not sure how one can go about this under NeXTStep,
but with X on Linux it's relatively easy to tweak the parameters.
The difference can be phenominal... I'm running an 80MHz dot clock with
a resolution of 1024x900 (a little over 60Hz vertical refresh rate) and
it looks almost perfect, BETTER then a previous configuration I had that
ran a 65MHz dot clock at 1024x760 at around 70Hz vertical refresh.
One primary feature of the F550i-W is its low EMR... you basically have
to put your nose to the monitor to get the same EMR (elec. magnetic
radiation) levels as a normal monitor from 3 feet away... and this is
square law! The monitor is fully shielded all around (no side lobes,
whereas most monitors put out even MORE radiation to the side then
straight up front). This is a good thing for someone (me) who stares
at a monitor 18 hours a day.
All that lead also makes for a very heavy monitor :-)
The F550i-W costs around $1000.
P.S. if you have problems with color washout with black hardware, read
your F550i-W manual VERY carefully... the little one labeled 'Color
Control Manual'.. It allows you to adjust cutoff and gain and a number
of other things which might give you a better calibration for black
hardware. If you don't have problems, I strongly suggest NOT futzing
with these parameters.
-Matt
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From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook)
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Subject: Re: Nanao monitor really good?
Date: 2 Nov 93 16:15:59
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In-reply-to: dillon@moonshot.west.oic.com's message of 2 Nov 1993 11:04:17 -0800
In article <2b6avh$jcu@moonshot.west.oic.com> dillon@moonshot.west.oic.com (Matthew Dillon) writes:
> One thing I've found out playing with X windows under linux, though, is
> that changing the syncing stuff can make a big difference in the quality
> of the display. I'm not sure how one can go about this under NeXTStep,
> but with X on Linux it's relatively easy to tweak the parameters.
EXACTLY! Some people refused to believe me when I said that my monitor (a
crappy MAG 1448) looked fine at 1024x768@60Hz under Windows but sucked at
the same resolution under Linux. Also, there were some drivers for some
video card for NS/FIP that when run on a NEC 5FG were too flurry -- new
drivers fixed the problem.
The driver CAN affect the video output fairly significantly.
Brian
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 22:47:16 MET
From: OCS@earn.cvut.cs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Diamond Stealth PRO VLB/2MB and NSFIP?
Message-ID: <16C7A13F57.OCS@earn.cvut.cs>
Organization: VC CVUT
Hi all,
does anybody succeed to install NSFIP on PC with Diamond Stealth
PRO VL-Bus graphics card? I tried it yesterday with the new S3
driver with no success. I managed to install NS in 640x400 2-bit
grayscale. When I wanted to use 800x600 in 15-bit RGB, I saw only
garbage on the screen.
Any suggestions?
Thank you
Tomas Hurka
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From: cuilla@black_silk (Chris Cuilla)
Subject: Booting NS/Intel
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.214726.3276@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 21:47:26 GMT
I have a NS/Intel machine...when I boot it...everything is fine, etc, etc.
And I'm asked which mode I want to boot in (NS or DOS) (after a delay of a
few seconds (if I don't respond) it automatically boots in DOS/Windows.)
This happens everytime, even when I choose NS, the next time it does the
same thing. I believe it should be booting in NS by default once I select
NS. What am I doing wrong.
Also, I'm asked to press "F1" to proceed each time (before I'm prompted
for the OS of choice).
Thoughts?
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 15:18:32 MST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Sound digitiizers
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Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
From: feijai@kolob (Sean Luke)
In article <CFuGv8.I3B@news.cis.umn.edu> peter@tahiti.umhc.umn.edu writes:
>Sean Luke (feijai@kolob) wrote:
>
>: I wasn't aware that there was a common drive that did this--it's illegal
>: to digitally sample off of a CD.
>
>Is it also illegal connect the digital out on the back of my CD player to
>my digital tape deck? (My outboard PCM-601 has a better DACs than my CD
>player for listening.) Can I make a backup of my CD? Ok, what was going
>to be done with the soundfile. Maybe that's what is illegal.
It's illegal because the music industry is scared stiff of bootlegged copies
that are identical in sound quality to the original. They've gotten Congress
to pass a variety of copy-protection laws concerning digital recording.
At any rate I'm not suggesting that what you were going to do was illegal or
immoral (a backup of a CD is probably fine)...just that 1) it would require
some hefty CD players to allow digital recording, and 2) you might want to be
aware of government stupidity.
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From: mc2@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox)
Subject: Motherboards that work with NS/I
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.194017.894@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Distribution: USA
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 19:40:17 GMT
Is there a list of clone motherboards that will run NS/I anywhere?
I have looked in the FAQ and next.com but have found nothing. I
have seen ads for clone systems using AIR motherboards (VLB-EISA)
and was wondering how some one would know if this would work.
(I try to notice 486.66Mhz.DX2 - VLB/EISA - 256k cache - capable of at
least 32M ram).
I have also found ads for AMI motherboard systems that I am also
considering (thanks Varun for your post on your clone experiences!)
Any other motherboards that I should look at???
Thanks for any info (if I get a lot of replys of motherboards that
work I'll follow up to this news group...)
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From: devans@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (David F Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Black Keyboard Versions
Date: 2 Nov 1993 23:26:11 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2b6qaj$k1f@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
What versions of the black keyboard have there been? We've got ones here
with the pipe symbol way the hell over on the numeric keybad and no delete key.
I gather this was fixed in some later version, and now I gather that some of
the even later ones were ADB.
Just curious....
=============================================================================
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Computer/Synth Junkie
University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the
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From: austin@after.usask.ca (Alvin Austin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ISA bus video cards for NeXTSTEP/Intel
Date: 3 Nov 1993 00:11:22 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2b6sva$dle@tribune.usask.ca>
Keywords: ISA video NeXTSTEP/FIP
The NeXT 3.1 hardware compatibility guide (Sept 13/93 pages 9 and 11)
state that certain ISA-bus video cards based on the Cirrus Logic
GD542X and Tseng Labs ET-4000AX work with NeXTSTEP/Intel in
2-bit greyscale mode.
The only specific model listed is the STB Horizon card with 512KB RAM.
I'd like to know which other ones HAVE BEEN TESTED and have been
found to JUST WORK with NeXTSTEP. There are a lot of 486 machines
around for which this type of card is the only option for reasonable
video resolution (greater than 640 x 480). We have machines in our
labs that fall into this category... :-(
Please post here or email me if you have used other models
successfully. Perhaps we can come up with a list of them.
Thanks,
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From: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung)
Subject: Re: SCSI Cards, etc.
Message-ID: <vfr750CFw5t9.79A@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <752261431.AA00395@Chigate.chigate.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 01:07:56 GMT
Bill.Wolf@utibbs.chigate.com (Bill Wolf) writes:
>I have an adaptec AHA1510 SCSI Card. Will this work under NSFIP?
Recently, someone mentioned that the 1542CF "Doesn't Work". I just
picked up a 1542 this weekend, with the hopes that I can instal NSI,
but then I saw there may be a problem. Sure enough, there is a sticker
on on of the PROMs (I'm guessing its a PROM) that has 1542CF on it, so
I guess I picked the wrong door.
Now, is the 'F' a hardware change, or just a PROM change. And do you
think that I should just wait for whatever fix that comes out of NeXT
(like, maybe it will be in 3.2...)
Thanx!
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From: walt@nic.cerf.net (Walt Duflock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS Laser Driver for Windows
Date: 3 Nov 1993 00:46:50 GMT
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: NS Install on a Compaq portable
Message-ID: <CFvxvD.5CA@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Foo Software, inc.
Distribution: nymphe
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 22:16:24 GMT
>I can't get Nextstep to install on a compaq portable.
>It says "cant find CDROM", after the floppy does its boot stuff,
>even though the CDrom is a Next (tm) CDrom, attached to
>the builtin scsi drive, and Dos can find it easily.
>
>Anybody know how to get this to work?
>
>
>--
>Geoffrey Matthews
Hello Geoffrey,
hmmmm, seem's to be another nice, "We don't support this
controller" feature from NSFIP. Here, we had quite the
same problems, figgering out, which SCSI-controllers run
with NeXTStep for Intel. There was a Future-Domain or
someting that what the vendor called future-domain-compatible
Controller and it doesn't work that way. By the time, the
Adaptec-Controller 1542C arrived, we were very glad to see
NeXTStep running on your Box.
In my opinion, it is not the CD-ROM drive you have, but
the controller you own. Second issue is, that i don't know,
to which manufacturer the onboard controller from Compaq is.
This is pretty much the same thing with the TSENG-Cards. There
are TSENG-Cards and there are some other TSENG-Cards. :-)
So if there is no other hint on the net, how you can
figgure out that problem, take the harddrive out of your
portable box, install it on a real big box, and insert a
Adaptec Controller to install the NeXTStep. take another
harddisk for your security an install NeXTstep on that device
a second time. It's easier to connect a secon drive that
waiting for month, until your stuff we be supported. ;->>
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From: mja@netcom.com (Michael J. Albanese)
Subject: neXt for sale
Message-ID: <mjaCFwE9t.H8s@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 04:10:41 GMT
NeXtstation for sale, 68040 33mhz. 8mb RAM, 2.88 floppy, 105mb Hard Disk,
Megapixel Display (mono), System version 2.0, all documentation included.
$2,000 (obo) 408-287-7424
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: SIMMs
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.100252.13177@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <1993Oct26.225438.7144@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 10:02:52 GMT
In article <1993Oct26.225438.7144@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>
olivierl@rb-csd.SanDiego.NCR.COM () writes:
>
> Regarding the SIMMs 1Mox9 for PCs : can I use these for my NeXT CUBE ?
>
> Same question for the 4Mo SIMMs for PCs.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> ------
>
Yes you can use 1M*9 or 4M*9 in your cube.
You can also enable memory parity checking on your cube, but all SIMMs
must be *9:
1) go to the monitor (type command left,command right,~ after first bip)
2) under NeXT monitor type p
3) answer yes to the question that asks you to enable parity
4) when you get back to the monitor type m to examine your memory
configuration
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Help?cant upgrade system?
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.100906.13243@free.fdn.org>
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 10:09:06 GMT
In article <2akof6$9tn@news.aero.org> jcd@aladdin.aero.org (John C Davis)
writes:
> Orginal Configuration: 030 cube, Optical Disk, NS 2.1
>
> Upgrade Configuration: 25 Mhz 040 board, Quantam PD700s 700 Mbyte hard
> drive, internal floppy disk , Apple CD300 cdrom drive, NS 3.1 developer
on
> cd rom.
>
> 1. Using the boot floppy from 3.1 and the CD rom drive and the 040
mother
> board configuration to try to build my hard disk, the peripherials are
> recognized (the disk name, cd rom drive name and the 3.1 developer disk
> appear in the intial boot up sequence), but after building the disk from
> stratch the moniter says "sc: message REJECT RECEIVED" numerous times.
> Next it returns "This is going to be a build from scratch? yes or no.
And
> ...................
> John Davis
> jcd@aladdin.aero.org ( NeXT Mail Welcome)
> 310 336-5423 w
> 310 595-9651 h
You should not enable your Quantum PD700s to initiate target sync
negotiation.
This is the reason for the message "sc:message REJECT RECEIVED"
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: EtherlinkIII trouble
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.101117.13316@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <1993Oct27.082412.9091@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 10:11:17 GMT
In article <1993Oct27.082412.9091@leland.Stanford.EDU>
mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach) writes:
> Hi folks!
>
> I've got a NS/FIP machine using AMI BIOS, 256K cache,
> Intel DX2/66 processor, 16MB ram, 1.2gig Toshiba SCSI
> HD, Sony 541 CD-ROM drive, 1.44 floppy, ATI Ultra Pro
> VLB with 2MB VRAM, ProAudio 16 sound card, Adaptec 1542B
> SCSI card, and an Etherlink III network card.
>
> Everything about the system works like a charm, except
> for the network card, which takes between 80 and 140
> seconds to send a packet three feet over coax ethernet
> to another machine. Well, it really doesn't seem to
> matter how far away the other machine is; the ICMP
> reply times are in the 80000 to 140000 range, with
> 75-95% packet loss rates. I've used the 3com test
> program that comes with the card to check for conflicts,
> and I've tried other settings to see if it might be
> and odd conflict. I've even replaced the card. Still
> no better luck.
>
> Currently, it's set to IRQ 10, base address 300.
>
> Anybody seen this problem before? Even if you haven't
> yet fixed it, please let me know, so I don't feel so
> much like I'm screaming in the dark at this problem. :-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt Petach
> tired, dazed, and confused.
>
Dont you forget to put 2 50 ohms terminators at each end of the coax
cable.
FAbien
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Next 040 cube floppy?
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.102118.13441@free.fdn.org>
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 10:21:18 GMT
In article <1993Oct29.082517.7465@leland.Stanford.EDU>
mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach) writes:
> O.K., o.k., I admit, I pulled a stupid move.
> I noticed the 040 motherboard has a standard
> floppy-cable connector on it for attaching
> internal floppy drives on machines that come
> configured that way. So, I went out and spent
> $36 for a brand new 2.88 floppy, $3 for a cable,
> and took them home to set up my cube with a floppy
> drive. The only problem was that I didn't know
> which way the cable should be oriented. I guessed
> one way, and that didn't work, so I unplugged the
> data cable and flipped it around, and that just made
> the machine power down. Hm. didn't look too good.
>
> Well, since it was a normal floppy cable, with the
> half-twist in it, with two sets of connectors at
> one end, I figured I'd just try the other connector
> and see if that worked any better. The first time
> I pressed the power key, I just heard a faint pop,
> but nothing else happened. So, I pressed the power
> key a second time. Within 6 seconds, the air was
> filled with acrid blue-black smoke, I had a nice
> set of burns on the insides of my fingers, and my
> $3 floppy cable was a glowing, dripping mess. I
> yanked the cable out of the machine (burning my
> fingers more deeply in the process), and yanked
> the power cord out.
>
> After letting the smoke clear for a few minutes, I
> powered the machine back up, and it came up just
> fine (thank god for good engineering from the folks
> at NeXT, protecting stupid morons like me), but I
> was no closer to having a floppy drive on my cube.
> In fact, I'm now on cable, and possible one drive
> farther away.
>
> So, to the meat of the question:
>
> Has anyone out there ever attempted what I am
> attempting? Does anyone know the correct cable
> configuration and orientation for connecting
> a 2.88 floppy drive to the NeXT 040 motherboard
> for a NeXT cube? If so, would you mind terribly
> much sending me some clues?
>
> Thanks a million!
>
> Matt Petach
> lucky moron who's almost killed his NeXTs more times
> than he can count....
>
The problem you got is that NeXT 2.88 floppy get powered thru the flat
ribbon cable!!!!!
Fabien Roy
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: NS/FIP Video Hardware
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.111921.13598@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <1993Oct31.173542.215@dart.de>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 11:19:21 GMT
In article <1993Oct31.173542.215@dart.de> wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
writes:
> We are using a miroCRYSTAL 32S with a driver for NEXTSTEP 3.1.
> The board supports resolutions of up to 1408 x 1024 at 16-bit, 70 Hz.
> It has 4 MB of RAM, is based on the S3 928 chipset and is available for
EISA,
> Localbus and PCI.
>
> The board supports the following high resolutions:
>
> 1408 x 1024 16-bit 70 Hz
> 1280 x 1024 16-bit 75 Hz
> 1024 x 768 32-bit 75 Hz
>
> It also supports 8-bit greyscales at these resolutions and the 32-bit
mode
> (16.8 million colors) will be available with NEXTSTEP 3.2
>
> The retail price of the board here in Germany is about 1,000 Dollars
(1,700 DM)
>
> Note that the highest resolution is only supported by few high
resolution
> monitors. We are using a 21-inch EIZO-monitor (= Nanao F760i-W).
>
> Miro also has lower priced S3 805 boards for NEXTSTEP which support
8-bit
> greyscales at 1024x768, 16-bit color at 800 x 600 and 32-bit color at
640 x
> 480. Retail price is 200 Dollars (340 DM)
>
> We distribute the miro products to NeXT resellers in Germany/Europe.
> Miro will also be showing the products at Comdex in Las Vegas next week.
>
> miro Computer Products, Inc.
> 3160 De La Cruz Blvd., Suite 200
> Santa Clara, CA 95054, USA
> Phone: (408) 727-1558
> FAX: (408) 988-2515
>
>
> Wilfried Beeck
> d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
> Virchowstr. 17-19
> 22767 Hamburg
> Germany
> (49) 40 38023 0
> (49) 40 38023 290 fax
I got a PCI Pentium equipped wit a MIRO PCI S3 805 2Mb ram, the config
options said I could use 800*600 16b color 1024*768 8b b/w 1024*768 16b
color.
I was not enable to set the configuration to other resolution than 800*600
color or 1024*768 gray scale.
Any idea for using 1024*768 color? (2 Mb of video ram should be
sufficient)
Printout from /usr/adm/messages:
Nov 2 11:51:03 localhost mach: Display0: S3 86C805; Local bus; 2 Mb VRAM;
AT&T 20C491 or compatible DAC.
Nov 2 11:51:03 localhost mach: Display: Failed to match modes. Using
default mode
Nov 2 11:51:03 localhost mach: Display0: Sorry, cannot use requested
display mode.
Nov 2 11:51:03 localhost mach: Display0: Initialized `S3_805[800 x 600 x
15]' @ 60 Hz.
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From: patt@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Sam Li)
Subject: HELP:Anyone knows the best NS color notebook?
Message-ID: <CFwJ5w.3ws@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: NSI notebook
I am looking for a color notebook running NS, so can anyone tell me their experience or idea of the best color notebook configuration to run NS? When I mean the best, I mean something that has good NS graphics and networkability, and most definitely bug free with 3.1 or 3.2? I am thinking of an NEC or a Compac, but any idea is welcome.
Thanks!
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 05:56:20 GMT
Sam.
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Trouble with Quantum ELS127 drives
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.220457.15321@free.fdn.org>
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Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <2aphe6$1td@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1993 22:04:57 GMT
In article <2aphe6$1td@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
mgrmja@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J. Allard) writes:
> Greetings.
>
> We have bought a couple Quantum ProDrive 127s (ELS127S) and I am having
some
> trouble with them. I wrote the disk label once, but I could not write
> anything else to the disk.
>
> Now, when I try to write the disk label, I get the following (at least 4
> times):
>
> sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 1
> sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 2
> sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 3
> sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 4
> sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 5
> sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 6
> sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 7
> sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 8
> sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 9
> sd1: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL
>
> I have used/built numerous Quantum 120MB drives recently with no
problem.
> The ELS127S is (I believe) a newer drive, and it may be attempting that
evil
> synchronous mode data transfer stuff that NeXT insists on being the boss
> about. Am I just plain out of luck here?
>
> The only jumpers on the drive are for SCSI ID. Is this drive too smart
for
> NeXT's britches? I really dislike the thought of sending these back.
:-(
>
> BTW, the drive is terminated OK. The original label I wrote appears on
the
> screen at boot time:
>
> QUANTUM ELS127S Rev 4.07 as sd1 at sc0 target 2 lun 0
> Disk Label: NeXT_3.1
> Disk Capacity 122MB, Device Block 512 bytes
>
> Please e-mail any responses. I will gladly summarize.
>
> Thanks in advance - I'm stuck on this one.
>
> Mike
>
> P.S. The Quantum 120s were also of the 512-byte-block variety, and I
had no
> problem with that. :-?
>
> --
> Michael J. Allard --- Workstation Manager, Waters Computing Center
> Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, IN 812-877-8273
> E-Mail: <Michael.Allard@rose-hulman.edu> Fax: 812-877-3198
> #import <std/disclaimer.h> -- NeXTmail Friendly! -- HAMnet: KA9VDC
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I did have the same problem IBM 1Gbyte 3,5" hard drive. The answer from
IBM was : change some setting with the scsi mode select command. I did it
on a Mac with the Sedit app because I did not want to write a program on
NeXT.
Thanks to the people at IBM UK who own a NeXT Station.
Fabien
P.S. If somebody needs the IBM mode select config info, please don't
hesitate to contact me thru E-mail.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: SupraFax 14.4 and NS/I. Anyone?
Message-ID: <rorCFwInJ.Mz0@netcom.com>
Summary: Supra for dialup on NS/I...any success?
Keywords: Supra, dialup
Organization: X
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 05:45:15 GMT
Does anyone out there have a Supra SupraFax V.32bis (14.4) working on a
NEXTSTEP/Intel machine for dialup?
How about ANY MODEM AT ALL?
Please let me in on your secret.
Thank you in advance.
Zach
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From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Using >2gb disk with NS 3.2?
Message-ID: <CFwu1H.B39@demon.co.uk>
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References: <2auctm$hme@nuscc.nus.sg>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 09:51:15 GMT
In article <2auctm$hme@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10033@leonis.nus.sg (Tan Chee Heng)
writes:
>
> Hi there,
> Does anyone know if 3.2 version of NS will fix the problem of not
> being able to run 'fdisk' on any disk 1gb? Thanks.
> fdisk is the NS's version of it. The dos version seems to run it fine.
> This is with an Adaptec 1542B controller.
>
>
>
We have no problems using 1.2GB drives on 1542B are you sure you have set the
DIP switch for drives > .5GB if not that can cause problems.
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Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: DAT Drives for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <CFwu9A.B69@demon.co.uk>
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References: <1993Oct26.205026.16070@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 09:55:57 GMT
In article <1993Oct26.205026.16070@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes:
> Apologies if this is an oft seen question, but
>
> I'm looking for DAT drives that I can use on my black NeXTs. The 2 GB DAT
> drives are preferable, but I'll settle for lower. The NeXTs are non-turbo
> colour stations, if that makes any difference. Does anyone have any
> recommendations on what type of DAT drives to get? Are there specific
> drives that will work on the NeXT?
>
> Thanks for any info!
Try either WangDAT 3100 or 3200 (2GB, 2/8GB) or Sony SDT-4000 (2/8GB)
We have used both on black and white hardware along with SafetyNet backup
software.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Vidio card to go with the Nanao monitor and NS drivers
Message-ID: <1993Nov3.051819.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
From: kmcconnell@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 3 Nov 93 05:18:19 EST
I am puting together a intel 486 to run NS and I have chosen the Nanao 550iW
17" monitor which our group owns 3 others. The monitors are great! Currently
one 486 is set up to run NS/I and has a ATI VLB mach32 with 2meg VRAM for the
vidio card. The performance is good except for some bad streeking on the
screen when moving a window runing NS 3.1 at 1024 x 768 resolution and yes
the problem is only with NS. Does anybody
eles have this problem and will 3.2 fix it? Also since the ATI card is in the
middel of a model change and not currently available what would be a good
graphics card to get and avalable within a months time period? I think the
S3 card with 4megs maybe a little too
expencive but all replys are welcome. Oh the mother board is local bus by the
way.
Thanks
Kevin McConnell
kevin@rose.chem.wesleyan.edu
Dept. Of Chemistry
Wesleyan U.
Middletown CT
From: sholland@motown.ge.com (Scott Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MIDI Pinouts
Date: 3 Nov 1993 12:00:43 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta Corp, Moorestown NJ
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2b86hc$rq5@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM>
References: <2ahfm1$1uf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: MIDI, PAS-16, Sound,
MIDI is only required to be opto-isolated at the receiving end.
I am in the process of building a MIDI - Joystick box that works
with the PAS-16,PASt-16 and a number of other sound cards that use
a similar interface. I would recommend buying rather than building
unless you have a good electronics junk box. The interface is
extremely easy but it does take some work to gather all the parts
you need to build one.
Scott Holland Martin Marietta
sholland@motown.ge.com "I'm from Detroit and this is no Motown."
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From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: NeXTStation thinks new 4MB simms are 1MB simms (HELP)
Message-ID: <1993Nov2.005552.28676@sol.UVic.CA>
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Organization: University of Victoria
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 00:55:52 GMT
My NeXTstation 040 25MHz with 8 simm slots originally came with
8 1MB 80ns 30pin simms. Each simm had two chips on it marked:
MCM514400ANJ80
Japan ZZZZZ9119
When observing the bootup process on the ROM monitor the
following message was always displayed.
RAM speed 100ns
I picked up 4 used 4MB 30 pin simms (100ns) and placed them in
the four slots furthest from the power supply. Of course
I had to take out 4 of the simms that came with the machine
originally. These simms had 9 chips on them and they were
marked:
F 81C1000-10 (maybe they're not 4Mbit chips)
Japan 8847 C71
The back of the simms had the following:
ART10382 Rev1
copyright Prime Computer Inc.
TES13V0
1889P plus some bar codes
In the rom monitor I have the following set:
DRAM tests yes
sound out tests yes
verbose yes
boot extended no
parity no
When I press m for memory configuration I get the following message:
BANKS 0-3 4MB page 0x4000000 - 0x4400000
BANKS 4-7 4MB parity page 0x5000000 - 0x53fe000
BANKS 8-11 none 0 - 0
BANKS 12-15 none 0 - 0
The total memory is still 8 MB with something like 6.96 MB available
The machine seems to work fine, I ran two separate copies of SOFTPC
which should use up all of the memory and everything worked fine
and the machine boots up fine. Any Ideas????? Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA (Greg Toews)
Subject: Re: NeXT CD-ROM drive -- multi-session? upgrade?
Message-ID: <1993Nov1.175741.5232@sol.UVic.CA>
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Organization: University of Victoria
References: <znr751807995k@quark.uucp>
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 93 17:57:41 GMT
Wayne Simila-Dickinson writes
> Is the NeXT CD-ROM drive a multi-session drive? If it isn't is there a
> ROM upgrade to allow it to become one?
>
> --
It is not a multi-session drive but is it upgradeable???
I was also wondering this, I suppose if that drive becomes obsolete in the
future one could just pop a newer drive in the case(ie. buy a fast, multi-
session drive [internal bare bones] and just replace slip it in) In the
next while these drives may become more affordable so I hope this is
possible. Anyone care to comment on the feasability of this???
In the meantime, it still works!
Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: Sony OD's?
Message-ID: <1993Nov3.175159.3240@boba.rhein-main.de>
Sender: borris@boba.rhein-main.de
Organization: Borris Balzer - DeskTopPublishing
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 17:51:59 GMT
Hi there,
does anybody know if it's possible to connect Sony OD's and Sony-OD-drives
to (black) NeXT hardware? And does NeXTStep enable me to initalize Sony
ODs with a NeXT filesystem / Mac filesystem / DOS filesystem (as it's
possible using "normal" disks).
Thanks in advance for any answers
- Borris -
P.S.: Please excuse my bad English - it isn't my native language.
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From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: Canon OD at NSI?
Message-ID: <1993Nov3.175225.3299@boba.rhein-main.de>
Sender: borris@boba.rhein-main.de
Organization: Borris Balzer - DeskTopPublishing
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 17:52:25 GMT
Hi there!
Canon in Germany still sells OD's and SCSI-OD-drives. So it should be
possible to connect a Canon-Drive to the SCSI-chain at any NeXT machine if
it's black or white.
But Canon Germany told me it would be neccessary to own a special driver
to run this stuff - which isn't available.
Is this real? Or does this driver already exist but Canon Germany doesn't
know about it? Or is someone out there (NeXT itself?), who's already doing
the job?
- Borris -
P.S.: Please excuse my bad English - it isn't my native language.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: borris@boba.rhein-main.de (Borris Balzer)
Subject: Re: optical disks
Message-ID: <1993Nov3.175301.3358@boba.rhein-main.de>
Sender: borris@boba.rhein-main.de
Organization: Borris Balzer - DeskTopPublishing
References: <28sh0uINNr1g@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 17:53:01 GMT
In article <28sh0uINNr1g@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> fl (... unknown host
"no-names" ... :-) my cube told me) writes:
> What are sources for disks for the next optical drives in the cubes?
> Also, does cannon still make these disks?
> thanks
> David Yu
Here in Germany Canon still sells Optical Disks. They offer them as a
mass-storage medium for their own systems to realize paper-less bureaus.
Canon Germany knows them by the name "Diskfile 502M". Just call your local
Canon dealer ...
- Borris -
P.S.: Please excuse my bad English - it isn't my native language.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bjanzen@lexmark.com
Subject: Read this if you're considering Dell...
Sender: usenet@lexmark.com
Message-ID: <16C7BB575.BJANZEN@lexmark.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 17:54:13 GMT
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY
FYI -
I purchased 3 Dell 450DE/2 DGX's to run NEXTSTEP. Those who I talked to at
Dell were quick to point out that "these are the machines that NeXT developed
FIP on". When my buyer called in the order, he even bugged Dell to pre-install
NS/FIP (my point being that it was very clear we were not using these as
DOS/Windows machines). When I tried to install, I discovered that Dell had
shipped me the Adaptec 1542CF card and the Seagate ST3550A IDE HD, neither of
which work with NS/FIP. I'll save my opinions for another time and forum, but
don't expect any help configuring a system or finding/fixing a problem.
Barry
bjanzen@lexmark.com
From: shaman@halcyon.com (Russell Wilcoxon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Orchid S3 drivers?
Date: 3 Nov 1993 10:53:12 -0800
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
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Message-ID: <2b8umo$811@nwfocus.wa.com>
Summary: Looking Orchid drivers
Keywords: Orchid f1280 drivers
I'm looking for a drivers that will utilize my Orchid f1280-VLB card.
It's got an s3-805 chipset and I've got two meg of ram on it.
I found the updated 3.1 drivers and they appear to be alittle faster
than the 3.1 evel drivers. I'm currently running at 800x600 8(bw).
This card should be capable of running in 800x600x256 color.
Thanks for any info, tweaks, or suggestions.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jak@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John A Kassebaum)
Subject: Trouble installing SIMMs in 040 Cube
Message-ID: <1993Nov3.194419.16237@en.ecn.purdue.edu>
Followup-To: jak@ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 19:44:19 GMT
I just purchased some new SIMMs for my '040 Cube. The SIMMs
were four 4Mx8 SIMMs (36 pin, 70 ns). I then installed them
after my already present eight 1Mx8 SIMMs on the '040 CPU board.
Everything seemed fine during the first boot, but shortly after,
programs began dying randomly, and thereafter the machine would
panic during the initial OS loading from the disk drive. I have
tried re-seating the chips, the disk drive cables, even changing
the order of the SIMMs to be the first bank instead of the third.
The behavior is always the same, the first boot after re-install
of the CPU board always appears normal, but the machine crashes
shortly after, and then all reboots die during the initial OS
load from the disk. Removing the new memory removes the problem
so it's not the disk drive. The power up ram tests are enabled,
but report no errors. The machine reports the correct configuration
for the new memory also.
Is my new memory bad, or is there something I don't know about
installing it?
Any help would be most appreciated, as I have torn out almost
all my hair trying to do this rather "simple" upgrade. If there are
many very interesting answers, I will summarize to this list.
Please respond to me at jak@ecn.purdue.edu, or this list.
My thanks in advance!
John Kassebaum
Grad Student, Dept of Electrical Engineering
Purdue University
Email:jak@ecn.purdue.edu
Work Phone:(317)351-4459
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: engelsma@elm.gvsu.edu (Ben Engelsma)
Subject: How do I mount a dos partition?
Message-ID: <1993Nov3.202538.11141@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Sender: news@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Organization: Grand Valley State University
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 20:25:38 GMT
Hi all:
I have a 405 MB IDE drive.
BEFORE installing NS/FIP, I made a series of 3 partitions:
1) 10 MB for DOS
2) 335 MB for NextSTEP
3) 60 MB for other stuff
After I installed NS, I noticed that the 10 MB partition for DOS
was mounted and readable. Since then, I have blown off the 10 MB
partition and combined the 60 with the 10 to make a single 70 MB
DOS partition. Now, I would like to be able to mount that 70 MB
partition. How can I do it? I would imagine that re-installing
NS would be one possible way, but how else could I do it? Is it
possible? Can anyone offer any insight? The existing drive is
mounted on /dev/rhd0a. Please help!
--
============================================================
Benjamin D. Engelsma engelsma@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
Grand Valley State University
Telephone (616)453-0974
From: eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Eren Kotan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSFIP with Gateway Pentium PCI
Date: 3 Nov 1993 21:37:41 -0000
Organization: Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton
Message-ID: <2b98b5$1bt@titian.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
I have just bought NeXTstep for Intel and want to buy a decent PC to run it
on. I like the new Pentium P5-60 machine Gateway is selling, however this
has a PCI bus, an ATI XLR PCI graphics card, and an IDE hard drive. Will NS
be compatible with these?
I'd really appreciate it if there is someone out there who is using this
combination can e-mail me and tell me how it runs.
Thanks,
Eren Kotan
eek93el@mail.soton.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: seungwoo@myria.cs.umn.edu (Seung-Woo Kim)
Subject: Sony CD-Rom Drives usable on PC?
Message-ID: <seungwoo.752365088@myria>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 22:18:08 GMT
I have both PC clone (386) and NeXTstation(mono slab). Since I don't
use my NeXT CD-Rom drive too much, I wonder if I can hook it up to
my PC. Any ideas?
Seung-Woo
From: shahir@asic.mtv.nec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEXT 17" & 21" color monitors for sale
Message-ID: <1993Nov3.141251.91@asic.mtv.nec.com>
Date: 3 Nov 93 14:12:51 -0800
Organization: NEC Electronics, Inc.
Next computer color monitors for sale:
17" Megapixel color monitor for Next computer $600
17" Megapixel color monitor for Next computer $550
The $550 monitor has a scratch on the side. Otherwise it is perfectly
functional. It is only a cosmetic blemish.
21" Megapixel color monitor for Next computer $1350
Above monitors are new and in the box
Please call
(408)238-6251 Voice After 7:00PM PST
(408)238-9495 Fax
or email: shahir@asic.mtv.nec.com
From: dave@truth.asg.arlut.utexas.edu (Dave Slotnick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: High pitch sound spews from the fan on my NS Turbo -- any suggestion?
Date: 4 Nov 1993 13:25:22 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2bavs2$slk@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
My NS Color Turbo, 14 month old, has just started to make an incredibly
irritating high pitched whining sound. The sound is almost definitely
coming from the fan, since it decreases in intensity as the fan shuts
down.
I'm extremely ignorant when it comes to hardware. My first though would
be to open the box and check the fan for obstructions. In the absence of
any obstruction I would lubricate the fan with a few drops of WD40 or
equivalent. Is there a better lubricant that anyone can suggest? Is
there anything special I should look for or know about?
Pardon my ignorance in these matters!! Any help would be greatly
appreciated. Please e-mail any useful information to the address below.
Thanks,
--
*** David Slotnick
*** Applied Research Laboratories
*** dave@truth.asg.arlut.utexas.edu
NeXTmail desired and appreciated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware
From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky)
Subject: Sharing display between systems
Message-ID: <dgursky.752420116@news.andi.org>
Summary: How can I share an RGB monitor between different boxes?
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 13:35:16 GMT
I am going to be setting up a lab that will likely consists of an equal number
of H-P 9000/715 workstations and Intel-based PCs running NEXTSTEP and possibly
DOS/Windows as well. In the interest of space and cost, I'd rather not buy
monitors for each individual workstation, but rather for each seat in the lab,
and then have a switchbox to control whether the monitor is connected to the
H-P or the Intel box.
I know there are switch boxes for the RGB video that is typically used on the
large 19" and 21" monitors that the H-P uses, but are the video cards and
drivers for Intel-based PC (specifically that can be used by NEXTSTEP) that
will drive such a monitor? Are there other factors in sharing a monitor
among different hosts that I am overlooking?
--
David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted
Synex, Inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org
5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: ............. (301) 621-5732
Columbia, MD 21044 fax: ............. (301) 621-6005
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,andi.misc
From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director)
Subject: Re: Read this if you're considering Dell...
Message-ID: <CFz2D7.AoC@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Keywords: ANDI,Dell,NeXTSTEP
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <16C7BB575.BJANZEN@lexmark.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 14:46:18 GMT
In article <16C7BB575.BJANZEN@lexmark.com> bjanzen@lexmark.com
writes:
>
> I purchased 3 Dell 450DE/2 DGX's to run NEXTSTEP.
I find it of interest that you were still able to buy the DGX system
as a Dell employee told me at the Fed Micro show in Washington, DC at
the end of August they they were discontinuing that line.
---
Bill Strehl
Executive Director
ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc.
reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org
"Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
Message-ID: <i=%@byu.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 93 09:24:56 MST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Sound digitiizers
References: <Nov.3.19.38.24.1993.29893@gandalf.rutgers.edu> <2ba7pq$j7k@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
From: feijai@kolob (Sean Luke)
In article <2ba7pq$j7k@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:
>
>Well, lets see if I can clear up some of the misinformation here (or lets see
>if I can seriously stick my foot in my mouth). First off, Apple is very proud
>of the fact that you can grab audio from a CD using QuickTime 1.6 over the
>SCSI bus without ever leaving the digital domain and include it in your own QT
>Movies. What CDs you use and what you do with it afterwords is up to you.
>Grabbing the digital audio isn't illegal but you will probably run into
>copyright problems if you scam the latest Sting song to use in your company
>presentation.
1) It is illegal to use more than 15 seconds of copyrighted sound material
in a public setting without permission. (The old law)
2) It may be illegal to use any "obviously identifiable" copyrighted sound
material in a public setting. (Several upcoming "sample" bills and suits)
3) Under pressure from the music industry, Congress has passed a number of
laws aimed at curbing CD copying to DAT, most of which impose strict
penalties to offenders, but one (which has already been discussed)
hobbles the DAT drives themselves when working off a CD.
>[Good discussion of digital recording impediments in DAT]
Also remember that there are some more bills and suits in the pipeline
concerning CD "sampling" (as opposed to "copying", whatever that means). But
be warned that the music industry sees the illegal use (or sampling) of CDs
as much more serious than copying tapes, since copying CDs can result in a
perfect duplication. It was this that I was referring to, not DAT stupidity,
when saying it was illegal to sample off a CD. The industry is gettiing
vicious about this, as they see it as a major threat to their financial
sovereignty.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Sean Luke MILK: It Comes From Cows
sean@digaudio.byu.edu NeXTmail, MIME OK
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From: flikkema@eng.umd.edu (Paul Flikkema)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help! GW 4DX2-66E NS/I compatible???
Date: 4 Nov 1993 16:35:34 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2bbb0m$qpi@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
Summary: Will this model work wiht NS/I?
Keywords: Gateway, compatibility
The organization I'm joining plans to buy me a Gateway
4DX2-66E. As far as I can tell, it is a new model.
If anyone has any information on whether it will run NS/I,
please let me know. If not, I'll have to convince them
to get another brand, and I'd rather not have to. It seems like
as nice machine--EISA, Pentium ready, etc.
Also, knowledge anyone can share on GW's "32-bit EISA SCSI
controller" or their "VLB graphics accelerator" would also
be appreciated.
Please email--I'll summarize if requested.
_Many_ thanks in advance,
Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: michal@gortel (Michal Jaegermann)
Subject: Need help with floptical drive
Message-ID: <1993Nov4.181349.11390@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 18:13:49 GMT
A friend of mine tried SCSI floptical, 21 Meg capacity, with a brand
name "Insite". This with a black hardware. They kind of work, i.e.
a drive is recognized, but there are definite problems with formatting
new media and, as I understand, reading is also not so reliable.
Does anybody knows if there are proper incantations/drivers/configuration
programs which would help in this situation?
Thanks,
Michal Jaegermann
michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross)
Subject: Problems with NBIC Chip?
Message-ID: <1993Nov4.201436.10918@news.nd.edu>
Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 20:14:36 GMT
I have a Next Cube (040 turbo, ND board, color) running NS 3.1.
My problem is that when I reboot, the machine sometimes hangs
after the message 'NBIC present' is displayed. The way I usually
get around this is to completely power off and this seems to fix
the problem. I think I have also gotten past the problem by
rebooting without powering off. Is my NBIC chip about to go?
Is it something with the SCSI stuff (the next thing to be checked
in normal boot are my SCSI devices, I think). Under normal
conditions, my boot display is as follows
NBIC present
fc0 at 0x2014100
(other stuff about my SCSI devices comes next)
The online help doesn't give much info on this except to say the
NBIC controls the NextBus. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
-george
George B. Ross______NeXT mail welcome_______gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu
University of Notre Dame_______Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
Stop it, you're talking crazy--Stimpson J. Cat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon)
Subject: Ethernet Cards NS/FIP
Message-ID: <CFzJAI.E5J@well.sf.ca.us>
Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 20:51:54 GMT
We're running a Dell DGX machine and need to connect it to our network. Could
anyone who has had personal experience, recommend the best possible ethernet
card for this purpose?
Thank you.
Paul
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NSFIP with Gateway Pentium PCI
Date: 4 Nov 1993 14:47:02 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <2bbt8m$mrn@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
References: <2b98b5$1bt@titian.ecs.soton.ac.uk>
In article <2b98b5$1bt@titian.ecs.soton.ac.uk>,
Eren Kotan <eek93@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>I have just bought NeXTstep for Intel and want to buy a decent PC to run it
>on. I like the new Pentium P5-60 machine Gateway is selling, however this
>has a PCI bus, an ATI XLR PCI graphics card, and an IDE hard drive. Will NS
>be compatible with these?
>
>I'd really appreciate it if there is someone out there who is using this
>combination can e-mail me and tell me how it runs.
>
i'd like to hear too. I called them yesterday and got some info about this
machine. The person I spoke too didn't know about whether the video card
or the machine would work with next.
The price is $2995. I'd like to get it down to $2000 and buy a monitor
separately.
for $2995:
pentium w/256k cache
8 meg ram
3.5" floppy
2x cd-rom
424mb ide hard drive
ati pci bus 2mb card
14" monitor
mouse, ms-dos
choice of app software
You need 16 meg to run nextstep at least. This is one of
those cards with only 4 slots for simms (at least they implied that).
It only has 4 simm slots.
It costs $400 to upgrade to 16 meg ram!
They won't sell with less than 8 meg.
It's doesn't take 30 pin simm slots but something different. What a
pain.
drop the monitor, that saves $360.
drop the 2x cd-rom (it won't work with nextstep, it's not a scsi) $155
drop the hard disk (i have one) saves $250.
So, for me its $2995 - 360 - 155 - 250 + 400 (ram)
$2630 + $1000 for a monitor. I'd get it if I could buy my own ram.
-nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Subject: Good graphics *and* good overall performance?
Message-ID: <1993Nov4.214001.584@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Sender: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: G.R.O.S.S.
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 21:40:01 GMT
Not that the "benchmarks" of NeXTworld are really acceptable as benchmarks, but
they illustrate a point: Cuurently it seems that you either get good graphics
peformance (i.e. graphics system) with respect to NStC or you get good
Webster/Compile (i.e. disk, bus and integer).
Isn't there a system out that has both?
--
Gerben Wierda [NeRD:7539] gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
"If you don't know where you are going, any road will
take you there." From the Talmud(?), rephrased in
Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
From: mmh10@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (Mara M Helmuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Nextstation-LocalTalk Connection?
Date: 4 Nov 1993 21:29:46 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <2bbs8a$f3s@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Is there some way to connect the nextstation to a LocalTalk network
which uses modular connectors? I am trying to print from the Next
to a laserwriter on a LocalTalk AppleTalk LAN network, and have installed
AppleTalk on the next. Is there some device to convert the serial
output from the NeXT to the modular lines used by the network?
Thanks,
Mara Helmuth
mara@jing.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: Good graphics *and* good overall performance?
Message-ID: <1993Nov4.223807.29296@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <1993Nov4.214001.584@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 93 22:38:07 GMT
In article <1993Nov4.214001.584@rna.indiv.nluug.nl>
gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl writes:
> Not that the "benchmarks" of NeXTworld are really acceptable as
> benchmarks, but they illustrate a point: Cuurently it seems that
> you either get good graphics peformance (i.e. graphics system)
> with respect to NStC or you get good Webster/Compile (i.e. disk,
> bus and integer).
>
> Isn't there a system out that has both?
..and is there a system that does ok on floating points? Most benchmakrs
I have seen show the Intel compatibles as doing very well on integers, but
not very well on floating points. A Pentium seems to be three++ times as
fast as a Sparc 2 on most integer tests, but equivalent on floats...
Also, would the person who gets Mathematica running on a 486/Pentium
please run the Mathematica benchmarks available from otter.stanford.edu?
--
Magnus Nordborg
magnus@fisher.stanford.edu (NeXT mail preferred)
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-5020
+1 (415) 723-4952 (office)
From: patrick@sdd.hp.com (Patrick Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Good graphics *and* good overall performance?
Date: 5 Nov 1993 00:43:19 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2bc7j7INNduj@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com>
In <1993Nov4.223807.29296@leland.Stanford.EDU>, magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes:
>
> ..and is there a system that does ok on floating points? Most benchmakrs
> I have seen show the Intel compatibles as doing very well on integers, but
> not very well on floating points. A Pentium seems to be three++ times as
> fast as a Sparc 2 on most integer tests, but equivalent on floats...
>
The Pentium needs completely different optimization strategies in both
integer and FP than the 486. FP code in particular seems to be heavily
affected. Mathematica for NS/I was compiled with 486 optimizations, so I
wouldn't expect it to do too well. If you trust SPECmarks (a rather dubious
proposition :-), then Pentium should be better than 2x SPARC 2 on FP, with
proper optimizations.
Does anyone know if NeXT is going to be including Intel's Pentium
Pentium optimizations in their compiler anytime soon? I seem to recall
that Intel is basically _giving_ the code away to any compiler vendor who'll
sign an NDA. Unfortunately, the NeXT compiler is based on GNU, and GNU
insists on being able to publish source code for everything, so they
probably wouldn't be able to use Intel's optimizations. On the other hand,
they're probably better compiler gurus anyway, so maybe if they put some
efort into it...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Chase I speak for myself, not H-P
H-P San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jgg@LoftTech.com (J. G. Gregory)
Subject: NS ScreenSaver doesn't work on Intel GX
Message-ID: <1993Nov4.190629.739@LoftTech.com>
Sender: jgg@LoftTech.com
Organization: LoftTech Incorporated
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 19:06:29 GMT
I have an Intel GX/Professional. This is the second one I have had pass
through here. The problem is screen savers.
On the first machine, the screen would go to saver mode if the login panel was
up. On this machine, it never does.
On both machines, the built-in screen "Auto Dim" saver, available in
preferences, has never worked. I set it to 5 minutes, but it never dims.
The first system had User and Developer installed; the second only User.
Questions:
1. Does anyone have an NS/Intel system that respects the AutoDim value in
Preferences?
2. Does anyone have an Intel GX that does?
3. What can I do? Fixed in 3.2?
Answer via email, I will summarize.
--J Gregory
LoftTech Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Problems with NBIC Chip?
Message-ID: <CG0Isu.LEp@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet Limited.
References: <1993Nov4.201436.10918@news.nd.edu>
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 09:38:53 GMT
In article <1993Nov4.201436.10918@news.nd.edu> gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George
B. Ross) writes:
> I have a Next Cube (040 turbo, ND board, color) running NS 3.1.
> My problem is that when I reboot, the machine sometimes hangs
> after the message 'NBIC present' is displayed. The way I usually
> get around this is to completely power off and this seems to fix
> the problem. I think I have also gotten past the problem by
> rebooting without powering off. Is my NBIC chip about to go?
> Is it something with the SCSI stuff (the next thing to be checked
> in normal boot are my SCSI devices, I think). Under normal
> conditions, my boot display is as follows
>
> NBIC present
> fc0 at 0x2014100
> (other stuff about my SCSI devices comes next)
>
> The online help doesn't give much info on this except to say the
> NBIC controls the NextBus. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks in advance.
We also have a cube with the same problem. When we asked NEXT about the problem
they said they were aware of it and new firmware would be forthcoming. Then
they stopped making black hardware. I think it is unlikely that the fix was
implemented as we still have an outstanding request.
Though I cannot be certain that your NBIC is failing I think that your problem
is most probably the same as ours (ie the firmware).
--
Regards David Knight
FFC Software and Systems Limited
351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: (44)
0702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: matt@drefla.mese.com (Matt Brandt)
Subject: Re: DAT Drives for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <1993Nov4.211528.847@drefla.mese.com>
Sender: matt@drefla.mese.com
Organization: Applied Engineering
References: <CFwu9A.B69@demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 21:15:28 GMT
In article <CFwu9A.B69@demon.co.uk> david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk writes:
> In article <1993Oct26.205026.16070@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
> eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah) writes:
> > Apologies if this is an oft seen question, but
> >
> > I'm looking for DAT drives that I can use on my black NeXTs. The 2 GB DAT
> > drives are preferable, but I'll settle for lower. The NeXTs are non-turbo
> > colour stations, if that makes any difference. Does anyone have any
> > recommendations on what type of DAT drives to get? Are there specific
> > drives that will work on the NeXT?
> >
> > Thanks for any info!
>
> Try either WangDAT 3100 or 3200 (2GB, 2/8GB) or Sony SDT-4000 (2/8GB)
> We have used both on black and white hardware along with SafetyNet backup
> software.
I'll also add that I have used a WangDAT 1300XL with black hardware
successfully. Plug it in, turn it on, an "it just works". I didn't use any
third party software for it though, just dump/restore and tar.
matt
--
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matt@drefla.mese.com | is a good .sig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: raul@pencom.com (Raul Alvarez)
Subject: Re: How do I mount a dos partition?
Message-ID: <1993Nov05.213105.24106@pencom.com>
Sender: usenet@pencom.com (News system)
Organization: Pencom Systems Incorporated
References: <1993Nov3.202538.11141@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1993 21:31:05 GMT
In article <1993Nov3.202538.11141@beech.csis.gvsu.edu>
engelsma@elm.gvsu.edu (Ben Engelsma) writes:
> Hi all:
>
> I have a 405 MB IDE drive.
> BEFORE installing NS/FIP, I made a series of 3 partitions:
>
> 1) 10 MB for DOS
> 2) 335 MB for NextSTEP
> 3) 60 MB for other stuff
>
> After I installed NS, I noticed that the 10 MB partition for DOS
> was mounted and readable. Since then, I have blown off the 10 MB
> partition and combined the 60 with the 10 to make a single 70 MB
> DOS partition. Now, I would like to be able to mount that 70 MB
> partition. How can I do it? I would imagine that re-installing
> NS would be one possible way, but how else could I do it? Is it
> possible? Can anyone offer any insight? The existing drive is
> mounted on /dev/rhd0a. Please help!
> --
> ============================================================
> Benjamin D. Engelsma engelsma@beech.csis.gvsu.edu
> Grand Valley State University
> Telephone (616)453-0974
Make sure you format the partition. NS/FIP should be able to mount a
formated partition.
--
Raul Alvarez raul@pencom.com 212-513-7777 NeXT Mail is encouraged
Remember: If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dylan@Angst.COM (Dylan Kohler)
Subject: Re: Problems with NBIC Chip?
Message-ID: <1993Nov5.184638.2564@Angst.COM>
Sender: dylan@Angst.COM
Organization: Angst Animation Post Production
References: <CG0Isu.LEp@demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 18:46:38 GMT
In article <CG0Isu.LEp@demon.co.uk> david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk writes:
> In article <1993Nov4.201436.10918@news.nd.edu> gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu
(George
> B. Ross) writes:
> > I have a Next Cube (040 turbo, ND board, color) running NS 3.1.
> > My problem is that when I reboot, the machine sometimes hangs
> > after the message 'NBIC present' is displayed. The way I usually
> > get around this is to completely power off and this seems to fix
> > the problem.
[...Lines Deleted...]
>
> We also have a cube with the same problem. When we asked NEXT about the
> problem they said they were aware of it and new firmware would be
> forthcoming. Then they stopped making black hardware. I think it is
> unlikely that the fix was implemented as we still have an outstanding
> request.
>
> Though I cannot be certain that your NBIC is failing I think that your
> problem is most probably the same as ours (ie the firmware).
I thought I'd chime in too--I also have this problem. Are there many
others of us? Are we all running Color Turbo Cubes? Was there a bad
batch in manufacturing?
--
___________________________________
Dylan Kohler
Angst Animation Post Production
dylan@angst.com (NeXTmail welcome)
From: richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu (Richard Ruth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Serial port recommendations (68040)
Date: 6 Nov 1993 06:45:22 -0800
Organization: usc
Sender: richard@runner.uucp@usc.edu
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2bgda2$d65@runner.uucp>
After receiving some e-mail and reading the FAQ I know that there are a couple
of options for increasing the number of serial ports on a NeXT Station. Anyone
have any recommendations?
Thanks
--
Richard
richard%runner.uucp@usc.edu
(ok to send NeXT Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: golden@cady.sscnet.ucla.edu (Miriam Golden)
Subject: Can't print after 3.1 upgrade (black)
Message-ID: <CG35LD.LGK@sscnet.ucla.edu>
Keywords: printing, upgrade
Sender: usenet@sscnet.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA, Social Sciences Computing
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 19:46:24 GMT
I just upgraded from 2.1 to 3.1 on black hardware (a NeXTstation), with a
NeXT black and white laser printer attached. Although I can hear the
printer turn on when I boot up, when I go to the PrintManager, the only
apprpropriate printer listed (the NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer) is greyed
out. Most other options (HP lasers, Apples, etc.) seem irrelevant, and
anyway are connected through serial port A or B. (I assume my NeXT
printer should be specified as a SCSI device.) So how do I configure the
NeXT printer to print under 3.1?
Any immediate help appreciated, since I can't work if I can't print!
Miriam Golden, UCLA
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Yet another video card q: How about the actix Graphics Engine?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 6 Nov 1993 13:00:42 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <2bgvpa$ak6@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
How about the actix Graphics Engine under nextstep. I believe it will
work, but how good is it? I would like to run it at around
1120x832x16bit, but under 3.1 there is no driver to do this.
Is there a driver under 3.2 for this? Also, some people have said that
the s3 cards appear to be faster but at high res (1120x832 or 1024x768 @16bit)
the s3 cards "tear" the image, especially when moving windows. The
latest and greatest ati gup (revision 6, but not available anywhere!)
is better at this highest speed so it is said.
So, what I'd like to hear (did next really start shipping 3.2 on
friday as someone said in advocacy?) is: s3 drivers for 3.2, and the
specifics on speed. Even better (dreaming here), someone who used
an actix card with a viewsonic monitor (v17, 17") under 3.1 or 3.2.
How does the viewsonic v17 compare to the epson professinal 17". The
viewsonic appears to support higher resolution and faster scan rates.
-nick
From: soward@amstel.inslab.uky.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with NBIC Chip?
Date: 06 Nov 93 15:04:58
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Well, I just thought I too would chime in and say that I have never seen this problem on our Turbo Cube with a Dimension board in it, though I've been through two motherboards....what happnes if one removes the NBIC (and you don't have a dimension or other card in your cube)?
---
John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce
University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced'
soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
From: jbernat@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Jim Bernatowicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Do you use a 3.5" Magneto optical with Black hardware?
Date: 6 Nov 1993 16:22:54 -0500
Organization: UMCC, Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Message-ID: <2bh4je$14u@umcc.umcc.umich.edu>
Hello. Are there any (Motorola-based) NeXT users out there
currently using 3.5" magneto optical drives? If so, would you
please send E-mail to me at katja!jbernat@umcc.umich.edu? I have
some questions regarding manufacturers, required drivers, inter-
face, etc. Thank you.
Jim Bernatowicz
katja!jbernat
--
jbernat@umcc.umich.edu | Jim Bernatowicz
an602@cleveland.freenet.edu | The University of Michigan
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sharing a SCSI device between a Mac and a NeXT?
Date: 6 Nov 1993 14:05:30 -0800
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Message-ID: <2bh73a$7f8@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
I've been wanting to share a SCSI device for quite some time but am
under the following impressions.
A) A NeXT CD-ROM can work on a Mac with the appropriate driver.
B) Using a switcher box would damage either or both machines if
switched while machine or machines are on.
C) There may be a new box that allows switching but it is expensive.
D) I don't know what would happen if I just connected both computers
directly to the drive. I suspect that would cause confusion or panick.
Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks for any replies.
maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: anderson (Ken Anderson)
Subject: Re: Ethernet Cards NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Nov6.205519.25129@biztech.com>
Sender: news@biztech.com
Organization: Biztech, Inc.
References: <2bdruo$1a5s@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 20:55:19 GMT
In article <2bdruo$1a5s@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
zryx0376@awssg7.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei
R.Rabenseifner)) writes:
>In article <CFzJAI.E5J@well.sf.ca.us> dav@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Davilon)
writes:
>>
>>We're running a Dell DGX machine and need to connect it to our network.
Could
>>anyone who has had personal experience, recommend the best possible
ethernet
>>card for this purpose?
>
>Intel Etherexpress 16.
>
>--
>Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting,
Networking
>mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell /
Windows NT
>IRC: Marsu Expert in quantum bogodynamics
I second the Intel vote. The SMC is toooooo slow.
Ken Anderson
anderson@biztech.com
Stamford, CT
Newsgroups: uw.next,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bugni@cs.washington.edu (Paul F Bugni)
Subject: Bus problems with NS486; What chip sets work?
Message-ID: <1993Nov7.031616.10760@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Summary: Assuming wrong chip set on motherboard
Sender: bugni@cs.washington.edu
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 03:16:16 GMT
I've been beating my head against the wall for a month and believe
that my only remaining constraint against running NS is a bus problem.
I'm currently running on a 486dx2 Taiwan clone motherboard with a 'UMC'
chip set. The settup halts when 'Registering sd0a' and I'm nearly positive
there's no problem with the Adaptec 1542c card or the Maxtor 345 SCSI
hard drive which it is apparently being registered. Someone on the NeXT
helpline led me to believe that in conjunction with other problems
I'm having, the bus is the problem. If you know of a clone chip set
that is working could you please mail me so I might invest time and
money in one that will be compatable.
Thanks.
Paul Bugni email: bugni@cs.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rawyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: NEXTSTEP/Intel and Apple LaserWriter Pro
Message-ID: <rawyattCG3u3K.F25@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 04:35:43 GMT
Just a quick question...Has anyone hooked up an Apple LaserWriter Pro 630 to
a machine running NS/I. I plan to do so soon and was hoping to get some tips,
warnings, etc.
Thanks!
Please reply to: rob%zeus.uucp@netcom.com (NeXTmail) or post to the group!
-Rob Wyatt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: gfin@cyber (Gary Finley)
Subject: Re: Need list of inexpensive low-end video for NS/I
Message-ID: <1993Nov7.065509.11108@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <2albdt$ar@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 06:55:09 GMT
Markus Wenzel (mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org) wrote:
: timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck) writes:
:
: >I need a list of inexpensive video cards (pref. VLB, though ISA might be
: >acceptable) capable of 1024x768x8-bit or 2-bit greyscale. By inexpensive
: >I mean $100-150 or less.
:
I'm using a VLB video/IDE card that cost about $180 Canadian (~150 US).
The video is based on the Cirrus 542X chipset, and does a respectable
1024x768 2-bit B&W (NXBench video score of 0.65, a bit slower than a
color Turbo Station). The board (and the motherboard it's plugged in
to) are Octek brand, bought from Ocean Information Systems. Mail me
if you want address details.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: snk@pampero.ka.sub.org (Sebastian Kowalski)
Subject: Daydream (was Re: That Funny Mac Box?)
Message-ID: <CG2BHt.1x0@pampero.ka.sub.org>
Sender: snk@pampero.ka.sub.org (Sebastian Kowalski)
Organization: Just another one's black hardware scene in Karlsruhe, Germany
References: <1993Nov5.170349.14912@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 08:56:16 GMT
In article <1993Nov5.170349.14912@aragorn.unibe.ch> tt@panda.unibe.ch
(Thomas Tschannen) writes:
> In article <2bdqdd$op0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L.
> Anathea Brooks) writes:
> > A few weeks ago there was a flurry of talk about
> > some Swiss firm offering a box which would "convert
> > black hw to a Quadra 950" (talk about downgrading!).
> >
> > Has anyone tried this? Will the pseudo-Mac print, and
> > are the serial ports usable? Do SCSI devices such as
> > scanners work? Etc.
> >
> > Or is it just a toy? (I do have Executor, which I use
> > exclusively with Quicken - very good).
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > L.A. Brooks
> > U of M.
>
> I called them last week. They don't have anything to show (yet) but
> would send me some documentation.
>
> I wonder what it will be like...
>
> Thomas.
>
This little box's name is daydream.
I saw it on last thursday working with a NeXT mono station. Just plug in
the hardware to the DSP port, install the Software and start. It works
fine.
I never saw a MAC with such a sharp display before.
We tried networking, it works. But sometimes it hangs while getting a zone
routed via EtherTalk-LocalTalk-EtherTalk.
Printing seems possible, but not with the NeXT printer for the moment.
We didn't check the serial abilities.
Daydream works with several software, including FrameMaker, Thinc C etc.
PhotoShop don't work for the moment.
And it's fast. I'll think it's not a toy, its a very cheep Quadra.
They work on the NeXT printer driver and try to get PhotoShop working.
For people who need both, a NeXT and a MAC, but not at the same time,
daydream seems to be the best solution.
Are there any people who have experience with a NeXT Color station (non-
or Turbo)?
Sebastian
--
Sebastian Kowalski, Karlsruhe, Germany | snk@pampero.ka.sub.org (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach)
Subject: Re: Mix and match disks
Message-ID: <1993Nov7.080058.20595@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <dgursky.752185956@news.andi.org>
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 08:00:58 GMT
NB: Bounce to user...
David Gursky (dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org) wrote:
: Recently, our Sun 4 finally gave up the ghost and died (or at least it is
: doing a remarkable imitation of having died...) I would now like to take
: the 600 MB disk from the Sun and attach it to my NeXT. The problem is that
: the NeXT does not recognize the filesystem that the Sun wrote on the disk.
: Every time I try and use the disk on the NeXT, I get a message to the effect
: of "Unreadable SCSI disk. Do you want to format?" (or maybe it is
: "Unrecognizable SCSI disk...") In any event, I would prefer not to have to
: reformat and restore a 600+ MB disk from backup tapes (especially as I'm
: reasonably certain that the disk had not been backed up recently). Is there
: any way to accomplish this? [The disk was mounted on the Sun as a 4.2 volume.
Hate to tell you, but you're out of luck. NeXT doesn't recognize
UFS filesystems, which is what Sun disks use. If you can get access
to a sun that can rewrite the filesystem as a 4.3 BSD filesystem,
you might have a prayer, but otherwise tar tapes would be your only
hope. dump and restore aren't portable, so dump tapes wouldn't
help you all that much. :-(
: It only has one partition that encompasses the complete disk. The disk is a
: Fujitsu M2263-512 mechanism.]
: --
: David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted
: Synex, Inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org
: 5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: ............. (301) 621-5732
: Columbia, MD 21044 fax: ............. (301) 621-6005
MAtt Petach
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach)
Subject: Re: ATI Graphic Ultra Pro ISA
Message-ID: <1993Nov7.082226.21189@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <2b5l86$bsh@galaxy.ucr.edu> <dcodeCFvK7z.9A6@netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 08:22:26 GMT
Paul Marcos (dcode@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <2b5l86$bsh@galaxy.ucr.edu> chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang) writes:
: > How does a ISA verion of ATI Graphic Ultra Pro compares to a
: >Vesa Local Bus verion? What is the difference in performance?
: >
: > I have searched all over and couldn't find any dealer carrying
: >ATI Graphic Ultra Pro VLB version. If you know any dealer carries
: >ATI GUP VLB please let me know about it. I am really tired with
: >the 640x480 resolution. Please help!
: >
: > By the way is Diamond Stealth Pro a good choice for NeXTSTEP?
: >Where could I find a driver for its 928 chipset?
: >
: >Thanks again!
: There's a dealer in Sunnyvale that carries it.
: NCA Computer Products
: (408) 739-9010
: 1202 Kifer Rd
: Sunnyvale, CA
: Paul
Just wanted to give two thumbs up to these folks. I picked on up
from them, and I'm looking at one of the nicest views I've seen
in quite a while. I'm using the VLB 2MB version with a Sony CPD1730
monitor, and WOW!!!! Talk about a nice view... :-) :-)
They also have really good prices on drives, etc. The 1.2 gig
Toshiba that's in my system was $845 from them; 12 ms access 3.5"
drive. Very, very nice. :-)
: --
: --------------------------------------------------------------------------
: dCode | dcode@netcom.com | NeXT Mail Happily Accepted
Now if only my PAS16 card wasn't having problems with the
Adaptec 1542B :-( :-( :-(
And if only I'd gotten an Intel EtherExpress instead of the 3C509. :-(
Matt Petach
From: erictremblay@genie.geis.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DAT Drives for Black Hardware
Date: 7 Nov 1993 13:15:06 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311071914.AA23324@relay2.geis.com>
I have used a Hewlett Packard DAT drive for the past year on my
NeXTStation and it works great!
Here's what I have:
HP 3570A SCSI DAT Drive
and EnTar (Which I really like BTW, and it's also cheap $59.95 If think)
Anyway, the above works really well for me.
Eric "E.T." Tremblay
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with NBIC Chip?
Date: 7 Nov 1993 20:42:00 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2bjmio$g9e@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <soward.93Nov615458@amstel.inslab.uky.edu>
In article <soward.93Nov615458@amstel.inslab.uky.edu>
soward@amstel.inslab.uky.edu writes:
>
> Well, I just thought I too would chime in and say that I have never seen
this problem on our Turbo Cube with a Dimension board in it, though I've
been through two motherboards....what happnes if one removes the NBIC (and
you don't have a dimension or other card in your cube)?
If you folks with Turbo NextDimensions (or unleaded ND's) are willing, I'd
like to include this discussion and whatever bugfixes you come up with in
the next version of the "NeXTdimension Compendium". (Whenever i get around
to updating it.)
Regards, Steve Weintz
scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
main man, EthnoGraphics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: That Funny Mac Box?
Message-ID: <1993Nov7.111939.635@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <1993Nov5.170349.14912@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 11:19:39 GMT
In article <1993Nov5.170349.14912@aragorn.unibe.ch> tt@panda.unibe.ch
(Thomas Tschannen) writes:
> In article <2bdqdd$op0@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L.
> Anathea Brooks) writes:
> > A few weeks ago there was a flurry of talk about
> > some Swiss firm offering a box which would "convert
> > black hw to a Quadra 950" (talk about downgrading!).
> >
> > Has anyone tried this? Will the pseudo-Mac print, and
> > are the serial ports usable? Do SCSI devices such as
> > scanners work? Etc.
> >
> > Or is it just a toy? (I do have Executor, which I use
> > exclusively with Quicken - very good).
> >
>
> I called them last week. They don't have anything to show (yet) but
> would send me some documentation.
>
> I wonder what it will be like...
>
If it is daydream to what you refer to, I saw it this week at our NUG
meeting. One of our members baught one (in Swizerland) at a price of 1400
Swiss Francs. It consists of a little box of PROMS that gets attached to
the DSP port and some software to load the PROMs over the DSP. As you
might have guessed 'til now, it only runs on black hardware.
Unfortunately it won't work on a NeXTdimension.
It loads and then reboots the machine (we used a mono slab) into Macintosh
mode (no Unix running underneath!). The thing is definitely faster than a
Quadra 750 which got used for comparision. Printer is not supported yet
(but is said to come soon), serial ports and SCSI were not tested as we
had no time to prepare for the test (the thing was brand new and the demo
not scheduled!).
We noticed the extremely good screen quality and the fast execution of any
software we tested. It even compiled an init (as close to the OS as you
can get ;-) and ran it successfully afterwards. For some strange tricks
in frame buffer access PhotoShop doesn't run yet, but it is said to be in
the queue. FrameMaker ran well and graphics apps were actually better
(more crisp and faster) than on the Mac!
The EtherTalk support was extensively tested and, unfortunately, hung the
machine several times. Reboot was very fast, though. Reboot is always
into Mac-mode as long as you don't set it to NeXT- mode in the special
menu of the finder (consistent with switching your Mac off ;-)
If you didn't buy your NeXT to get finally rid of Macintosh this is a good
product! Not that cheap, though.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: Re: Sony CD-Rom Drives usable on PC?
Message-ID: <1993Nov8.024833.22552@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Originator: verket@verket-home
Sender: news@venice.sedd.trw.com (USENET News)
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
References: <seungwoo.752365088@myria>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 02:48:33 GMT
In article <seungwoo.752365088@myria> seungwoo@myria.cs.umn.edu (Seung-Woo
Kim) writes:
> I have both PC clone (386) and NeXTstation(mono slab). Since I don't
> use my NeXT CD-Rom drive too much, I wonder if I can hook it up to
> my PC. Any ideas?
Mine works great hung off of the SCSI port of the Proaudio-16 sound card.
The Proaudio supplied SCSI software works fine.
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron)
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 17:42:14 PST
Message-ID: <1993Nov08.014214.2919@corona.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Need list of inexpensive low-end video for NS/I
References: <2albdt$ar@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <1993Nov7.065509.11108@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
gfin@cyber (Gary Finley) writes:
> : timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Tim Buck) writes:
> :
> : >I need a list of inexpensive video cards (pref. VLB, though ISA might be
> : >acceptable) capable of 1024x768x8-bit or 2-bit greyscale. By inexpensive
> : >I mean $100-150 or less.
> :
>
> I'm using a VLB video/IDE card that cost about $180
> Canadian (~150 US). The video is based on the Cirrus
> 542X chipset, and does a respectable 1024x768 2-bit B&W
> (NXBench video score of 0.65, a bit slower than a color
> Turbo Station). The board (and the motherboard it's
> plugged in to) are Octek brand, bought from Ocean
> Information Systems. Mail me if you want address details.
The 3.1 hardware compatibility guide (soon obsolete I hope) states that standard SVGA controllers are capable of 1024x768x2-bit greyscale.
---
NeXTMail:Peter_Kron@corona.com
Corona Design, Inc.
P.O. Box 51022
Seattle, WA 98115-1022
From: gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (Oberon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: That Funny (new) Mac Box?
Message-ID: <122124@hydra.gatech.EDU>
Date: 8 Nov 93 06:18:34 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
This is a slightly different thread.. but it is about mac/next
overlaps.
Has anyone seen the new MacTV? A black mac..witha black mouse and a
black keyboard. The black keyboard especailly looks VERY nextish.
The whole thing looks nextish actually. I mean it doesn't look
like a twin/clone.. it looks like a lost cousin :-)
I thought it was amusing. I'd still like to see MacNeXT. :-)
(especially if it would run on a powerbook. YOW! a NeXTBook :-)
John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low)
Subject: Recommendations for Cheap Motherboard ...
Message-ID: <boonlow.752739556@sfu.ca>
Sender: news@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 06:19:16 GMT
Hey all,
I need help on chossing a motherboard for running NeXTSTEP 3.1
for Intel. With EXTREME amount of money I spend on RAM and Video CArd
already ;-) , I was hoping to settle for a cheap Taiwanese made motherboard
to save some money.
I know that those A.I.R and Micronics motherboard would work but
they are pretty expensive.
I want to get a VESA DX266 and use SCSI harddrives and cdromdrive.
Anyone that can recommend any motherboards with tel. no and price would
be greatly appreciated.
Thanks all,
Ben.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Problems with NBIC Chip?
Message-ID: <bchin.752735064@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1993Nov4.201436.10918@news.nd.edu> <CG0Isu.LEp@demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 05:04:24 GMT
david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk writes:
>In article <1993Nov4.201436.10918@news.nd.edu> gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George
>B. Ross) writes:
>> I have a Next Cube (040 turbo, ND board, color) running NS 3.1.
>> My problem is that when I reboot, the machine sometimes hangs
>> after the message 'NBIC present' is displayed. The way I usually
>We also have a cube with the same problem. When we asked NEXT about the problem
>they said they were aware of it and new firmware would be forthcoming. Then
>they stopped making black hardware. I think it is unlikely that the fix was
>implemented as we still have an outstanding request.
One of my clients has a turbo dimension that refuses to boot in
verbose mode. His other turbo dimension is ADB equipped and has no
such problem. After a brief chat with Bell Atlantic (through 1-800-848-NEXT)
they deduced that I need a new ROM chip. They were willing to send it
to me, but we have a color printer we have to send back first.
Hope this helps!
--
Bill Chin, NeXTSTEP Developer, PRC Inc.
VP Communications, Washington Area NeXT Users Group
Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Technical Staff
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: marcus@amg (Marcus Brueggemann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI-Tapes with NS-Intel
Date: 8 Nov 1993 07:54:59 GMT
Organization: AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2bku0jINN750@hagen.amg.de>
Keywords: SCSI, Tape, NS
Does someone have experience with SCSI-Tapes on NS-I Machines? Do the same
Tapes work that work on NS-Moto? My feeling is that Intel-Boxes are not so
easy to handle in that case. If someone has experience, please let me
know. It dosn t matter if it is about Wangtek, DAT or Exabyte.
Thank you in advance,
Marcus Brueggemann
AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH
marcus@amg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: serge@dadofsam.Princeton.EDU
Subject: DPT2022
Message-ID: <1993Nov5.171005.13927@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: DPT2022
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: unlimited
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 17:10:05 GMT
After many false starts, we finally got our DPT2022 SCSI card to work with
NS/FIP in our Dell 466/ME. The key is to get the revision "B" ROM.
Specifically, the 3 ROM chips on the DPT2022 should read as follows:
FM-0230-DPT 005B-E
FM-0230-DPT 005B-O
SMARTROM BT-0002-002-B
Next will tell you that your need the "5A1" ROM ... this is wrong. Thanks to
Martin Ortlepp (martin@cube.han.de) for pointing us in the right direction.
Serge J. Goldstein
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: reinhard@avalon.unizh.ch (reinhardt peter)
Subject: Micropolis HD
Message-ID: <1993Nov8.113118.24078@ifi.unizh.ch>
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 11:31:18 GMT
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.advocacy ]
[ Author was reinhardt peter ]
[ Posted on Mon, 8 Nov 1993 11:27:43 GMT ]
Has anybody successfully installed the Micropolis
HD 2210 (1 Gig) or the bigger 2217 (1.6 gig) in a
NeXT Motorola?
Any experience welcome.
Peter.
(no nextmail, please post answers here).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 400dpi eraser lamps
Message-ID: <CFz91r.5rp@hawk.cs.ukans.edu>
From: stubbs@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Jerry Stubbs)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 17:10:39 GMT
References: <CFnAq8.6n4@well.sf.ca.us>
Organization: University of Kansas Computer Science Dept
I would try another cartridge. I think the corona wire in the cartridge
will have your symptoms if it doesn't work right. You can clean it
with a q-tip. ALso if the electric contacts from the printer to the
cartridge are dirty you might have streaks.
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Micropolis HD
Date: 8 Nov 1993 15:42:49 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison
Message-ID: <2blpdp$jp@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <1993Nov8.113118.24078@ifi.unizh.ch>
In article <1993Nov8.113118.24078@ifi.unizh.ch>,
reinhardt peter <reinhard@avalon.unizh.ch> wrote:
>[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.advocacy ]
>[ Author was reinhardt peter ]
>[ Posted on Mon, 8 Nov 1993 11:27:43 GMT ]
>Has anybody successfully installed the Micropolis
>HD 2210 (1 Gig) or the bigger 2217 (1.6 gig) in a
>NeXT Motorola?
>Any experience welcome.
Put a new 2217 on my office cube this past Friday, "it just
worked!" I had heard it would be noisy; doesn't seem to be.
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From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: That Funny (new) Mac Box?
Date: 8 Nov 1993 18:43:26 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2bm40e$kvp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <122124@hydra.gatech.EDU>
In article <122124@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6963c@prism.gatech.EDU (Oberon)
writes:
> This is a slightly different thread.. but it is about mac/next
> overlaps.
>
> Has anyone seen the new MacTV? A black mac..witha black mouse and a
> black keyboard. The black keyboard especailly looks VERY nextish.
> The whole thing looks nextish actually. I mean it doesn't look
> like a twin/clone.. it looks like a lost cousin :-)
>
> I thought it was amusing. I'd still like to see MacNeXT. :-)
> (especially if it would run on a powerbook. YOW! a NeXTBook :-)
>
We've got one on display at the U. of I. Micro Order Center. i was stunned
when i saw it (I remember my first look at a NeXTstation in the same place
2 years ago.) I've been chatting with one of the sales reps off and on
about Dell PC's running NS, and we talked about the Black Mac. He said he
got the willies when he first opened the shipping carton...
Have yet to seee it running, but my recent experiences with the Centris
650's in our Hypermedia Lab leave me unimpressed with the ruggedness of
Mac multimedia. ("What do you mean I can't check my e-mail while that
CD-ROM is booting?" "What's a System-1 error?" "What? Not enough
memory?!")
Steve Weintz
scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest-nscst-tnt)
Subject: Re: Micropolis HD
Message-ID: <CG6rt5.KH4@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Originator: news@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
References: <2blpdp$jp@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 18:39:05 GMT
In article jp@news.doit.wisc.edu, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>In article <1993Nov8.113118.24078@ifi.unizh.ch>, reinhardt peter <reinhard@avalon.unizh.ch> wrote:
>>Has anybody successfully installed the Micropolis
>>HD 2210 (1 Gig) or the bigger 2217 (1.6 gig) in a
>>NeXT Motorola?
>Put a new 2217 on my office cube this past Friday, "it just
>worked!" I had heard it would be noisy; doesn't seem to be.
Well, I just ordered a 2210 about an hour ago, and I have another
question. Are there any advantages to partitioning the drive, or
will I most likely be happy leaving it as one file system. When
it comes in, I plan to BuildDisk the new drive with 3.1 (3.2 if
I have it by then!) and then use it as my main drive.
So, to partition or not to partition, that is the question. What
do you think?
--
Mark Wuest
mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (NeXT Mail Ok)
From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: FAX/modems?
Date: 8 Nov 1993 19:20:27 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2bm65s$id@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
What FAX/modems are supported for the NeXT? Is there anything else (software)
that is needed to send and recieve FAXes on the NeXT? Does anybody have
any expierience with using the Zoom V42.2bis FAX/modem on the NeXT?
Thanks,
Tal Lancaster
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From: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help board Upgrading!
Date: 8 Nov 1993 13:58:23 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199311081958.UAA29362@grasp.insa-lyon.fr>
Bonjour?
Now, I'd like to upgrade from NeXTCube030 board to 040 board.
Dose anyone know of any informations about this item?
Any suggestions and recommendations will be appreciated.
Merci d'avance!
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 8 Nov 1993 14:55:59 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2bm88d$bq3@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
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Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: warozzi@mmm.com
Subject: Recommendations for upgrade of slab hard drive?
Message-ID: <1993Nov8.201714.3708@mmm.mmm.com>
Sender: schwartz@mmm.mmm.com (William H. Schwartz)
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN 55144-1000 US
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 20:17:14 GMT
A person in our lab wants to upgrade their mono station from
the 105MB drive to something in the 500MB range. Anyone have
any recommendations on drives to swap with the current internal?
Any warnings on drives to avoid? Many thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Lexar experience?
Message-ID: <1993Nov8.190522.3101@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 19:05:22 GMT
Anyone have any experience with Lexar? They supply Intel hardware to
Princeton University Libraries, and we're thinking about using them
ourselves.
--
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Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are
Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
From: dave@softpac.com.au (Dave Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: AudiPro16 and Logitech Bus Mouse IRQ's
Summary: Anybody got them working ?
Keywords: AudioPro Bus Mouse
Message-ID: <6M53sAoEBh107h@softpac.com.au>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 07:55:22 +1100
Organization: Softpac Pty Ltd
Some guidance would be appreciated please.. We are testing the above. Can anyone
give us some suggestions?
DOS/Audio Spectrum16 is not flexible as to interupts, and will only allow
interupts 5 and 7. At present, IRQ5 is used by the parrallel port and we are
having difficulty changing this. Is NeXTStep able to work around this? How?
It will not allow us to use IRQ5 for LPT1. What other fixed IRQ's (eg com
ports) are built in?
Also, what is the best setting for a Logitech Bus mouse? Any body got one
working out there?
Any gudance and/or feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Rgds dave t
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet)
Subject: Re: MIDI Pinouts
Message-ID: <thinmanCG70HH.IvL@netcom.com>
Keywords: MIDI, PAS-16, Sound,
Organization: International Foundation for Internal Freedom
References: <2ahfm1$1uf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2b86hc$rq5@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 21:46:28 GMT
How many modem control lines come out on the NeXT serial line?
There's an IBM PC product (Key Systems MIDIator) that does four
MIDIs out and one in, apparently using the modem control lines
to decide which out to send on. This is important because MIDI
is the most godawful comm standard around, and you need 2-4
MIDI senders to do anything interesting.
--
Lance Norskog
thinman@netcom.com
Data is not information is not knowledge is not wisdom.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet)
Subject: Re: NTSC Video Output?
Message-ID: <thinmanCG70K3.J2F@netcom.com>
Keywords: video, NTSC, composite
Organization: International Foundation for Internal Freedom
References: <1993Oct26.171435.2767@lighthouse.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 21:48:03 GMT
There are bunches of VGA->NTSC boxes appearing, from $150 to $1000s.
There's even a video genlock card (AItech, $650 street).
You'll need vga driver support, though.
--
Lance Norskog
thinman@netcom.com
Data is not information is not knowledge is not wisdom.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard)
Subject: Converting between Mac and NeXT fonts with Fontographer...
Message-ID: <1993Nov8.231050.167@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Keywords: fonts, mac, next, convert
Sender: news@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 23:10:50 GMT
I have some Type 1 fonts on the Mac and would like to convert them for use with
NS/i. I used Fontographer to save them in the NeXT format, but my machine
says they are unusable. Any hints?
thanks,
greg
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: That Funny (new) Mac Box?
Date: 9 Nov 1993 03:26:51 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2bn2lr$l3o@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2bm40e$kvp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <2bm40e$kvp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu
(Steven C Weintz) writes:
<All Deleted, sorry Steve>
Aside from the fact that I wouldn't trust a Mac to do more than two things at
once (and some things I don't trust it to do at all)...
The MacTV is a pretty nifty box. Shame that it's so "consumer oriented". It's
basically a clock doubled 16MHz '030 with no FPU and is only available in a
5/160 configuration at the UT MicroCenter. The TV part doesn't look bad
(though it is not bevel to bevel picture like a real TV, the television image
is confined to the "desktop area" leaving approximately an inch of dead space
all around as a border. The CD-ROM inside has a platinum dust cover and "case"
which a serious buyer would just have to rip out and spraypaint black. The
remote control is pretty lame, there is a huge clear "eye" at the top of the
screen for the IR, unlike the less obvious IR receivers on most home
electronics. The keyboard is the lame Mac Keyboard and has a pretty bad feel
to it (nothing like my lovely NeXT keyboard) and it sports a single LC
expansion slot. Not exactly a computer's computer but nice all the same and
pretty cool looking in general. If they'd release a 25MHz '040 based MacTV
with a better keyboard (maybe a black adjustable keyboard like they used in
Demolition Man) and cleaned up the video image quality a bit (I'm spoiled by
my ND and NeXTtv) it would be worth owning (and it would definitely fit into
my colour scheme).
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From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Subject: NeXT Toshiba Monitor
Message-ID: <1993Nov9.060745.27306@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 06:07:45 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: u7913108@ccsun23.cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Subject: NeXT Toshiba Monitor
Message-ID: <1993Nov9.061103.27379@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 06:11:03 GMT
Where can I buy the Black NeXT/Toshiba multisynch 21" monitor?
How much does it cost? and the viewable area of the monitor?
I want to use with my Intel machine ...
Many thanks
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: NeXT machines - how fast are they exactly?
Message-ID: <rorCG7y0p.Ew7@netcom.com>
Summary: How do NeXT computers compare to other unix workstations?
Keywords: unix, fast, speed
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 09:50:49 GMT
How fast are NeXTs? I mean in comparison to, say, Sparc machines (black and
white hardware)?
What kind of capacity do these machines have? What can I tell people?
How much faster will the HP risc machines running NEXTSTEP be? Incredibly
faster? Twice as fast?
I have a 486/66 running NEXTSTEP/FIP. How many shell users can I support at
once? 5? 10? More? Less? What about Pentium-based NeXTstations. How do
they compare to low-end risc machines? High-end ones?
Where do they fit in the spectrum?
I'm really curious. Is anyone willing to try this one?
Thanks,
Zach
--
ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
From: bailey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bill Leeke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Magnetic Strip/Bar Code readers for NeXT
Date: 9 Nov 1993 15:12:25 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2boc0p$h51@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Are there any barcode/mag strip readers that are compatable with Next
Machines?
later,
Bill
--
"Beaten paths are for beaten men."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: erik@csn.org (Erik Mugele)
Subject: 2 HDs in NeXTStation
Message-ID: <CG8DEG.8r8@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 15:23:03 GMT
I have a Black NeXTStation and was wondering if the power that is being
supplied to the internal HD was capable of being split and powering two
drives in parallel? This is all assuming, of course, that you
can find a place for an additional drive. :-) Any ideas? Will the
power supply handle and additional drive?
Thanks,
Erik
--
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Colo. Springs, Colorado * mugele@sil.org * is great. Here's a frog;
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DoD #: 1030 * Phone: 719.550.6188 * -- Dave Barry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: lorinr@altsys.com (Lorin Rivers III)
Subject: Re: Converting between Mac and NeXT fonts with Fontographer...
Message-ID: <1993Nov9.155320.4757@altsys.com>
Keywords: fonts, mac, next, convert
Organization: Altsys Corporation, Richardson, TX
References: <1993Nov8.231050.167@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 15:53:20 GMT
In article <1993Nov8.231050.167@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) writes:
>I have some Type 1 fonts on the Mac and would like to convert them
>for use with NS/i. I used Fontographer to save them in the NeXT
>format, but my machine says they are unusable. Any hints?
>
>thanks,
>greg
Greg,
There are many possible reasons for problems. Call Altsys Fontographer
Tech support. 214.680.2093 If they can't help you, give me a call
Monday 22 November.
Yours,
--
Lorin Rivers Lorin_Rivers@altsys.com
NEXTSTEP Sales Manager 214.680.2060
269 W. Renner Parkway NeXT Mail Expected
Richardson, Texas 75080 I said it, not my boss
From: d89cb@efd.lth.se (Christian Brunschen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MIDI interface for black (040) hardware
Date: 9 Nov 1993 17:17:05 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Message-ID: <2bojai$h81@nic.lth.se>
I am looking into getting a MIDI interface for my cube. I'd prefer
something as inexpensive as possible, and wouldn't mind building it
myself. So, does anyone have info on
a) what commercial MIDI-interfaces there are for NeXTs, black hardware with
040 (ie, the RS-423 port)
b) if there are any build-it-yourself plans for such a beast, or something
that could be easily adapted ?
Best regards // Christian Brunschen
From: mmoss@panix.com (Matthew Moss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Current compatibility list?
Date: 9 Nov 1993 13:06:20 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <2bom6s$kn2@panix.com>
Is there a current listing of compatible hardware and configurations for
NeXTSTEP, especially covering the new version 3.2? If so, where is it?
Thanx.....
----------
Matthew D Moss
mmoss@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Sharing a SCSI device between a Mac and a NeXT?
Message-ID: <1993Nov8.212402.1565@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <2bh73a$7f8@spock.dis.cccd.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 21:24:02 GMT
In article <2bh73a$7f8@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu
(Maurice Shihadi) writes:
> I've been wanting to share a SCSI device for quite some time but am
> under the following impressions.
>
> A) A NeXT CD-ROM can work on a Mac with the appropriate driver.
>
Thats what they say!
> B) Using a switcher box would damage either or both machines if
> switched while machine or machines are on.
>
Very likely outcome. Most machines would be very disapointed to see their
beloved SCSI devices vanish of a sudden!
> C) There may be a new box that allows switching but it is expensive.
>
Considering the requirements, I would double that one!
> D) I don't know what would happen if I just connected both computers
> directly to the drive. I suspect that would cause confusion or panick.
>
Bingo!
Although SCSI specifications would allow such, no OS ever provided for
multiple requester concurrency on the bus (as far as I know). They would
just go crazy!
Think of two UNIX boxes accessing the same disk simultaneously. Nice
trick! And good training for the aspiring mega guru: the ultimate kernel
hack ;-)
Networking the two systems is easier and in the long run much cheaper.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Subject: NeXT Toshiba Monitor
Message-ID: <1993Nov9.192846.16077@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 19:28:46 GMT
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.marketplace ]
[ Author was *** Mark Lin *** ]
[ Posted on Tue, 9 Nov 1993 06:14:58 GMT ]
Where can I buy the Black NeXT/Toshiba multisynch 21" monitor?
How much does it cost? and the viewable area of the monitor?
I want to use with my Intel mechine ...
Many thanks
Mark
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Disaster strikes. Can mixing 9bit with 8bit hurt? (probably?)
Date: 9 Nov 1993 13:50:27 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <2bovqj$m3e@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
[I posted this in the admin group but haven't got any reply....]
My 040 mono cube has always had 12meg of ram (12x1meg of course). I recently
bought 4x4meg of pc simms and I was wondering if this would work in my cube.
I had 8 bit simms and the new ones were 9 bit. I thought the parity bit
might be ignored. I thought since they were both 30 pin simms there wouldn't
be a problem. The connectors were identical.
"Someone" told me it wouldn't hurt to try, so I put in the new 4 meg's at
the high end (it bank 3 of 0,1,2,3). I took a simm out of the end of bank
2 to look at it and then put it back. Hope trying this didn't fry my system.
I powered up and got an error saying:
there is a problem in bank 2 (bank 0 is the first) and also
there are 4 meg simms in bank 3 but we can't read them
So, probably need to reseat the simms in bank 2 again.
Reseated them and rebooted. same error.
Removed the new simms from bank 3. powered up. Only one error now
about bank 2. poweredup. Now the monitor didn't come on! Now I'm
really starting to sweat. Hmm, perhaps I didn't reconnect those
internal cables correctly. Reseat those, make sure the monitor cables
are screwed in, no go! What to do?
By the way, when the monitor didn't come on, I couldn't get the system
to shut it self off via the power key, either. This suggested either
the monitor was not connected (and thus the keyboard was not connected
since it goes through the monitor), or something else :-)
I then rebooted the system with the monitor unplugged and the system
wouldn't do anything. Ie the power didn't come on. I remember reading
that it worked this way from some long ago reading on the net. So I
plugged in the monitor and the powerup made the usual coming on noises
but the monitor was dim.
Then I remembered something about using portb for a tty port when
trying to boot and when you are having problems. I connected my wyse75
upto port b and nothing happened when booting at either 9600 or 19200.
Same with port a. What are the settings necessary for this to work?
Later I reconnected the monitor back up and powered on. the system came
on but nothing happenned to the monitor. As dark as death. Hopefully not
the death of my system.
So, some questions. Suppose I screwed up the nvram somehow. Should I
remove the battery? How long does it take it to reset.
What about the battery? Is it dead? The last time I rebooted was
on sunday by the way. I shut off my system for about 12 hours and then
powered up with no problems.
Since the system powers up, it suggests that the internal cosistency
check that the monitor is present is satisfied. Somehow the monitor
itself is not working or the cpu board controls for it don't work.
There's no external fuse on the monitor. I might as a last resort
crack it open and check it out inside. I know to be very careful of
capacitors etc.
So, what should I do?
1. remove battery and wait?
2. reseat ram?
3. try to reseat some chips?
4. crack open the monitor?
How can I activate the sys admin messages to make them go out port b?
Thanks,
Nick Kline
Kline@cs.arizona.edu
ps. I got tired of waiting and removed the battery. I left it out for about
30 minutes and there was no difference when I powered up, except that the
screen was very dimly lit. Before this whole mess, the monitor was bright
and crisp. How long should I leave the battery out?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant))
Subject: Re: Do you use a 3.5" Magneto optical with Black hardware?
Message-ID: <CG8FGn.9C1@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk>
Sender: news@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
References: <2bh4je$14u@umcc.umcc.umich.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 16:07:35 GMT
I also want to know whether the NS3.2 support Fujitsu M2511A for black
?
From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: new DEC XL hardware
Date: 9 Nov 1993 21:35:46 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Message-ID: <2bp2fi$dhc@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
I just got some specs on the new DEC XL hardware, and it looks impressive:
PCI, upgradeable from 486 to Pentium or Alpha using daughterboards, built
in SCSI-2.
Under operating systems available it lists SCO, Unix, Windows, Windows NT,
MS-DOS and OS/2. Notice something missing?
Does anyone know if NeXTstep will run on this system? We may have to wait
for the 3.2 hardware compatibility guide.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Subject: NeXT Toshiba Monitor
Message-ID: <1993Nov9.213106.19004@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 21:31:06 GMT
Where can I buy the Black NeXT/Toshiba multisynch 21" monitor?
(NOT NeXT/Hitachi)
I want to use it wiht Intel machine ...
Many Thanks ...
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: henry@trilithon.com (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Converting between Mac and NeXT fonts with Fontographer...
Message-ID: <1993Nov9.185440.7203@trilithon.com>
Sender: henry@trilithon.com
Organization: Trilithon Software
References: <1993Nov8.231050.167@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 18:54:40 GMT
In article <1993Nov8.231050.167@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
ggerard@Alex.Engr.Trinity.Edu (Greg Gerard) writes:
* I have some Type 1 fonts on the Mac and would like to
* convert them for use with NS/i. I used Fontographer to
* save them in the NeXT format, but my machine says they are
* unusable. Any hints?
There are several possible reasons:
One possible reason is that the fonts are not installed properly.
You need to place each font in the correct structure. If your font
is called GripTite, then in either /LocalLibrary/Fonts or in
~/Library/Fonts [where ~ is your home directory], you need to:
o make a directory called GripTite.font
o make sure it has read permissions for everybody
o place the font program in a file called GripTite
inside the GripTite.font directory
o place the AFM file in a file called GripTite.afm
inside the GripTite.font directory
o repeat this procedure, substituting appropriate
names, for all your fonts
o and finally, run buildafmdir and cacheAFMdata.
If you've done all this, and you still have unuseable fonts, then
you have other problems. Probably THE major cause of
<< Unusable Font >>
from the font panel is incorrect AFM files. This shows up frequently
with ``Public Domain'', ``Free'', or ``Shareware'' fonts (further
re-inforcing the notion that ``Free'' software is worth all you
pay for it).
We [Trilithon Software] provide native NEXTSTEP applications which
convert between Mac or PC fonts to NEXTSTEP format, and install
the resulting converted fonts. Our Mac->Next and PC->NEXTSTEP font
converters perform a significant amount of sanity checking on AFM
files, including generating missing fields if needed, and generating
the AFM files from the font in the last resort.
Common problems that result in << Unusable Font >> include:
o carriage returns at ends of lines (because of DOS CR-LF
line terminators).
o spaces at the ends of lines (I think this was fixed in 3.1)
o missing fields such as FamilyName, FullName, and so on.
o incorrect Weight fields.
o mismatch between stated number of CharMetrics and actual number
of CharMetrics.
For details on our Mac->Next and PC->NEXTSTEP font conversion utilities,
please contact Trilithon Software.
Trilithon Software,
Two Ohlone,
Portola Valley,
California 94028.
Telephone: 415-325-0767
FAX: 415-325-0768
E-Mail: info@trilithon.com
........ Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: adh@alvin.ach.uams.edu (Alvis Harding Jr.)
Subject: Help! ProAudio Spectrum 16 install woes
Message-ID: <1993Nov9.214315.3926@engr.uark.edu>
Sender: netnews@engr.uark.edu (NetNews Administrator)
Organization: Arkansas Children's Hospital, Cardiac Imaging
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 21:43:15 GMT
I'm having trouble getting a ProAudio Spectrum 16 sound card to work
correctly under NextStep 3.1 for the 486. Whenever something plays through
the speakers, all I get is a harsh rasping sound, not the actual ding, doink,
splat, etc. I've tried various IRQ/DMA settings to no avail. First, do I need
to run the ProAudio setup utility to set the irq and dma settings or can I do
that from the NextStep configuration program. Here is a listing of the cards
that are installed and their settings.
ATI Ultra Pro
SMC Elite 16 Ethernet card - IRQ 10, no DMA
DPT 2012-B EISA SCSI card - DMA 5, IRQ 15
ProAudio Spectrum 16 - DMA 3, IRQ 5
Floppy - DMA 2, IRQ 6
Keyboard - IRQ 1
Serial ports - IRQ 3 & 4
Parallel port - IRQ 7
I've tried setting various IRQ and DMA settings and all I get is very raspy
approximation to the sound. Different sounds sound differently but they aren't
played correctly. If anyone knows anything to try, please let me know!
---
--- ---
---- ----
----- -----
Alvis Harding Jr. Arkansas Children's Hospital
adh@george.ach.uams.edu Cardiac Imaging Center
"The nice thing about so many standards is that you can choose the one you
want"
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <23382@news.duke.edu>
Date: 9 Nov 93 21:43:43 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Sorry, I had to use a customer's account to post this - any replies should be
made directly to briggman@rock.concert.net.
Advanced Business Systems has been patiently waiting for WordPerfect
Corporation to send me a beta of WordPerfect 6.0...just a couple of minutes
ago, I received this facsimile from Nathan S. Hatch (Manager, UNIX Product
Marketing for WordPerfect Corporation)
The following is the text of the letter.
"Dear Mr. Briggman:
WordPerfect Corporation has enjoyed a good working relationship with NeXT over
the years in developing WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP. After evaulating our efforts
in the NeXTSTEP operating environment, WordPerfect Corporation has made the
decision to suspend work on WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP.
This decision has been based on revenues and available resources. Each
WordPerfect product division operates as its own profit center and must be able
to fund development on that platform. WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP has not
generated enough revenue to finance future development, therefore at this time
there are no future plans for NeXTSTEP development.
There will be an interim release of WordPerfect 1.0.1 for NeXTSTEP available in
January 1994 and technical support will continue for one year from the date of
the interim release.
The interim release will include the following enhancements and fixes:
Correct mapping of NeXT German Keyboard
Link language files (fixed in UK interim)
ASCII converter fixes
Primary merge paper size is now saved during merge
Macro editor extended character use corrected
German/French versions updated to current US/UK versions
We apologize for our delayed response on this issue, but feel this decision is
necessary to accomplish our corporate objectives. Thank you for your loyalty to
our products. If you have any concerns or questions about this decision, please
contact the UNIX marketing group at 801-228-7253.
Sincerely,
Nathan S. Hatch
Manager, UNIX Product Marketing"
I suggest using WordPerfect's toll free number of 800-451-5151 and ask for the
UNIX Product Group
--
Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar
Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
(919) 286-6468 W | reward.
blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <23384@news.duke.edu>
Date: 9 Nov 93 21:44:23 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sorry, I had to use a customer's account to post this - any replies should be
made directly to briggman@rock.concert.net.
Advanced Business Systems has been patiently waiting for WordPerfect
Corporation to send me a beta of WordPerfect 6.0...just a couple of minutes
ago, I received this facsimile from Nathan S. Hatch (Manager, UNIX Product
Marketing for WordPerfect Corporation)
The following is the text of the letter.
"Dear Mr. Briggman:
WordPerfect Corporation has enjoyed a good working relationship with NeXT over
the years in developing WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP. After evaulating our efforts
in the NeXTSTEP operating environment, WordPerfect Corporation has made the
decision to suspend work on WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP.
This decision has been based on revenues and available resources. Each
WordPerfect product division operates as its own profit center and must be able
to fund development on that platform. WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP has not
generated enough revenue to finance future development, therefore at this time
there are no future plans for NeXTSTEP development.
There will be an interim release of WordPerfect 1.0.1 for NeXTSTEP available in
January 1994 and technical support will continue for one year from the date of
the interim release.
The interim release will include the following enhancements and fixes:
Correct mapping of NeXT German Keyboard
Link language files (fixed in UK interim)
ASCII converter fixes
Primary merge paper size is now saved during merge
Macro editor extended character use corrected
German/French versions updated to current US/UK versions
We apologize for our delayed response on this issue, but feel this decision is
necessary to accomplish our corporate objectives. Thank you for your loyalty to
our products. If you have any concerns or questions about this decision, please
contact the UNIX marketing group at 801-228-7253.
Sincerely,
Nathan S. Hatch
Manager, UNIX Product Marketing"
I suggest using WordPerfect's toll free number of 800-451-5151 and ask for the
UNIX Product Group
--
Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar
Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
(919) 286-6468 W | reward.
blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
From: blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WordPerfect Bags NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <23385@news.duke.edu>
Date: 9 Nov 93 21:45:41 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Sorry, I had to use a customer's account to post this - any replies should be
made directly to briggman@rock.concert.net.
Advanced Business Systems has been patiently waiting for WordPerfect
Corporation to send me a beta of WordPerfect 6.0...just a couple of minutes
ago, I received this facsimile from Nathan S. Hatch (Manager, UNIX Product
Marketing for WordPerfect Corporation)
The following is the text of the letter.
"Dear Mr. Briggman:
WordPerfect Corporation has enjoyed a good working relationship with NeXT over
the years in developing WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP. After evaulating our efforts
in the NeXTSTEP operating environment, WordPerfect Corporation has made the
decision to suspend work on WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP.
This decision has been based on revenues and available resources. Each
WordPerfect product division operates as its own profit center and must be able
to fund development on that platform. WordPerfect for NeXTSTEP has not
generated enough revenue to finance future development, therefore at this time
there are no future plans for NeXTSTEP development.
There will be an interim release of WordPerfect 1.0.1 for NeXTSTEP available in
January 1994 and technical support will continue for one year from the date of
the interim release.
The interim release will include the following enhancements and fixes:
Correct mapping of NeXT German Keyboard
Link language files (fixed in UK interim)
ASCII converter fixes
Primary merge paper size is now saved during merge
Macro editor extended character use corrected
German/French versions updated to current US/UK versions
We apologize for our delayed response on this issue, but feel this decision is
necessary to accomplish our corporate objectives. Thank you for your loyalty to
our products. If you have any concerns or questions about this decision, please
contact the UNIX marketing group at 801-228-7253.
Sincerely,
Nathan S. Hatch
Manager, UNIX Product Marketing"
I suggest using WordPerfect's toll free number of 800-451-5151 and ask for the
UNIX Product Group
--
Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar
Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
(919) 286-6468 W | reward.
blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
--
Denise Blakeley | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar
Duke Med Center Info Systems | to banging one's head against a wall,
Durham, NC | but with fewer opportunities for
(919) 286-6468 W | reward.
blake015@mc.duke.edu | NeXTMail welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Re: Sharing a SCSI device between a Mac and a NeXT?
Message-ID: <espritCG91tr.8uI@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <2bh73a$7f8@spock.dis.cccd.edu> <1993Nov8.212402.1565@nidat.sub.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 00:10:37 GMT
In article <1993Nov8.212402.1565@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes:
>In article <2bh73a$7f8@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu
>(Maurice Shihadi) writes:
>> B) Using a switcher box would damage either or both machines if
>> switched while machine or machines are on.
>>
>Very likely outcome. Most machines would be very disapointed to see their
>beloved SCSI devices vanish of a sudden!
I am not sure about the NeXT and the Mac hardware, but I swap external tape
drives and CD-ROM drives between PCs all the time.
The SCSI bus doesn't care if they go away. However, when some OSs initialize,
they figure out what is on the SCSI bus at boot-time and do not allow things
to change. Other OSs, like the one that I get paid to work on, checks the
SCSI target at open-time, so you can take things off the SCSI bus and put them
back on without rebooting the system. I think I have done this with SunOS
as well.
Mach, both the Mt. Xinu version on my PC and the NeXT version on my Cube,
figure out their SCSI devices at boot time.
>> C) There may be a new box that allows switching but it is expensive.
>>
>Considering the requirements, I would double that one!
What requirements are those?
>> D) I don't know what would happen if I just connected both computers
>> directly to the drive. I suspect that would cause confusion or panick.
>>
>Bingo!
>
>Although SCSI specifications would allow such, no OS ever provided for
>multiple requester concurrency on the bus (as far as I know). They would
>just go crazy!
>
>Think of two UNIX boxes accessing the same disk simultaneously. Nice
>trick! And good training for the aspiring mega guru: the ultimate kernel
>hack ;-)
This doesn't seem so bizarre as long as the different machines (i.e., their
SCSI Host Adapters) used different target IDs. The NeXT issues a SCSI
READ, then Mac issues a SCSI READ for a different block. As long as both
machines used different partitions, this seems easily doable (i.e., if
you can change the Host Adapter ID for either the Next or the Mac since they
both will probably be.). If they used the same partition, then it would
require some kernel hacking.
>Networking the two systems is easier and in the long run much cheaper.
Presuming the Mac does NFS and Ethernet, this would probably be a better
idea. The only thing that I know about Macs is that my wife wants us to
get one.
--
----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater speeds
esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer and
allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
From: bsco@athos.az.stratus.com (Bret Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: RE: Help! ProAudio Spectrum 16 install woes
Date: 10 Nov 1993 02:17:51 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <2bpj0g$mg@transfer.stratus.com>
I'm having trouble getting a ProAudio Spectrum 16 sound card to work
correctly under NextStep 3.1 for the 486. Whenever something plays
through
the speakers, all I get is a harsh rasping sound, not the actual ding,
doink,
splat, etc. I've tried various IRQ/DMA settings to no avail. First, do I
need
to run the ProAudio setup utility to set the irq and dma settings or can I
do
that from the NextStep configuration program. Here is a listing of the
cards
that are installed and their settings.
ATI Ultra Pro
SMC Elite 16 Ethernet card - IRQ 10, no DMA
DPT 2012-B EISA SCSI card - DMA 5, IRQ 15
ProAudio Spectrum 16 - DMA 3, IRQ 5
Floppy - DMA 2, IRQ 6
Keyboard - IRQ 1
Serial ports - IRQ 3 & 4
Parallel port - IRQ 7
I've tried setting various IRQ and DMA settings and all I get is very
raspy
approximation to the sound. Different sounds sound differently but they
aren't
played correctly. If anyone knows anything to try, please let me know!
It's been my experience that the PAS16 only works reliably with a TRUE
EISA motherboard (preferably SIS chipset) I have never been successful at
making it work with a hybrid EISA/VLB/ISA motherboard like the NICE MINI
EISA motherboard. This may be your problem. Maybe not.
I've got it to work on DMA 3 and IRQ 15, but you'll have to change the DPT
settings.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: AudiPro16 and Logitech Bus Mouse IRQ's
Message-ID: <1993Nov9.143932.14165@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <6M53sAoEBh107h@softpac.com.au>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 14:39:32 GMT
In article <6M53sAoEBh107h@softpac.com.au> dave@softpac.com.au (Dave
Thomas) writes:
> Some guidance would be appreciated please.. We are testing the
above. Can anyone
> give us some suggestions?
>
> DOS/Audio Spectrum16 is not flexible as to interupts, and will only
allow
> interupts 5 and 7.
That's odd! This might be a limitation elsewhere in the configuration
-- I am presently using IRQ 15 on several machines.
So far, DMA 3 and IRQ 15 have been the best combination, for me.
You might try to change the DMA first, then the IRQ setting.
>At present, IRQ5 is used by the parrallel port and we are
> having difficulty changing this.
Obviously, you;ve tried to change this in the PC's BIOS (right?)...
What kind of PC is this --I'm curious. If it's a BIOS problem, you
might consider changing the BIOS chip.
>Is NeXTStep able to work around this? How?
> It will not allow us to use IRQ5 for LPT1. What other fixed IRQ's
(eg com
> ports) are built in?
>
> Also, what is the best setting for a Logitech Bus mouse?
In my experience, IRQ 5 is the best for the Logitech mouse, given the
rest of the stuff you may want in a complete NS/I configuration.
>Any body got one
> working out there?
You mean the sound board? Sound has been a bit problematic, in my
experience; but I have mostly glitches, not complete breakdowns, to
report. Playing system alert sounds and short files works fine, but
some colleagues have reported difficulty playing long files (the sound
just stops). It's also sometimes a bit crackly. But on the system
that provides the best sound support for us (i.e., a Lexar), I've
never seen sound cause a system to freeze up, as some have reported.
I have yet to understand the source of the weakness for sound support
in NS/I configurations. Some speak about a conflict between the
Adaptec SCSI and ProAudio board (I've got an ISA/VL Bus system). But
EISA with DPT baords can be even worse... In fact, I have yet to hear
about a PC that provides good sound, with no glitches whatsoever.
However, before we blame the Intel/PC architecture, I have to wonder
if it's the NEXTSTEP driver --cause sounds are very clear on the same
machine running MS Windows. If it's the driver, then things should
get better... I hope.
With all best wishes,
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler)
Subject: Re: NeXT Toshiba Monitor
Message-ID: <CG99B3.D28@tdocad.sps.mot.com>
Sender: news@tdocad.sps.mot.com
Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
References: <1993Nov9.192846.16077@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 02:52:15 GMT
*** Mark Lin *** writes
Where can I buy the Black NeXT/Toshiba multisynch 21" monitor?
How much does it cost? and the viewable area of the monitor?
I want to use with my Intel mechine ...
Toshiba? My 21" here at work is a Hitachi OEM...
As I recall it's retail price (during the Hardware Years) was in the neighborhood of $3500. It's viewable area is huge. Compatibility, however, is a question. I've heard that only Dell machines work with NeXT monitors. Check the compatibility guide at ftp.next.com.
---
Michael Shaler
Tokyo Design Center
Nippon Motorola Ltd.
+813 3280 8245 voice
+813 3440 0033 fax
mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com [NeXTmail]rice (during the Hardware Years) was in the neighborhood of $3500. It's viewable area is huge. Compatibility, however, is a question. I've heard that only Dell machines work with NeXT monitors. Check the compatibility guide at ftp.next.com.
---
Mich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Subject: Has anyone gotten NeXT monitors to work with white hardware?
Message-ID: <CG9A05.2zM@relief.com>
Sender: jjfeiler@relief.com (John Jay Feiler)
Organization: Relief Consulting & Development
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 03:07:17 GMT
We've got a bunch of NeXTen which are being slowly put headless into
prototypes of our simulator. That leaves us with several monitors extra.
Since we will be moving over to white hardware, it would be nice if we didn't
have to buy new monitors.
If you have gotten black monitors to work with white hardware, I'd love to
hear about it.
I will summarize to the net....
John
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley)
Subject: Discontinued: Nanao 21" Greyscale Monitor - Flexscan 6500
Message-ID: <scratch.752913292@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca>
Summary: The only large greyscale monitor easily available in North America discontinued.
Keywords: Nanao Greyscale Monitor Discontinued Flexscan 6500
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 06:34:52 GMT
Bad news for the world of greyscale video using VGA family video
hardware.
Nanao has recently discontinued production of its Flexscan 6500,
a 21" greyscale monitor. This was the only large, high-res,
greyscale monitor easily available in North America that I had
found.
All who envision requiring such a large greyscale monitor can
join me in encouraging Nanao to reverse its decision.
As I understand it, Nanao itself has no remaining stock of the
monitor, however there might be a few units in the inventory of
distributors, retailers, and/or mail-order-houses.
If anybody knows of another manufacturer of such monitors, please
let me know.
Craig Scratchley
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,andi.business,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director)
Subject: Looking for NeXTSTEP Resellers, VARS,VADS, Integrators
Message-ID: <CG8CrH.5Ir@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Keywords: ANDI,NeXTSTEP, reseller
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 15:09:16 GMT
ANDI is compiling a list of Resellers, VARS,VADS, Integrators on a
worldwide basis. If you know of one or are one please send me email
directly.
We would like to know the following:
Name
Title
Company
Address
City, State/Province
Country
(include postal code in appropriate location)
phone
fax
email (specify if it is NeXTmail)[yes, some organizations only
handle ASCII]
hardware product line
number of years in business
number of years supporting/selling NeXTSTEP
indicate if you offer servicing or if it is offered by 3rd party
Thanks.
---
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Executive Director
ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc.
reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org
"Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: g402@hrz.uni-giessen.de (Karsten Wolf)
Subject: NSfIP and ASUS PCI-Boards?
Sender: news@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de
Message-ID: <CG9rFw.8z8@muster.hrz.uni-giessen.de>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 09:23:55 GMT
Organization: University of Giessen, Germany
Has anybody succesfully installed NSfIP on an PC with an ASUS PCI-Board? Please give me some intel!
Karsten D. Wolf
email: karsten.wolf@erziehung.uni-giessen.de
From: christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu (Christopher R. Douty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with NBIC Chip?
Date: 10 Nov 1993 09:45:39 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA
Message-ID: <2bqd83$63h@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
References: <bchin.752735064@news.andi.org>
< many problems with Turbo dimesnion machines deleted >
Sheesh guys. You're really scaring me. I just upgraded (thanks to Sam
Goldberger) my dimension cube to Turbo power. I haven't seen anything funky
yet, so I'll just hope that I got a different batch of NBICs.
--
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cdouty@nazgul.st.hmc.edu | MIME and | "I ask you, which government
Christopher_Douty@hmc.edu | NeXTmail OK | is more threat to liberty, the
----------------------------------------------+ weak, severely limited
government of 1789, or the mega-state of today that takes 40 to 50 percent
of our income, has minions as numerous as the stars in the heavens and
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Four sets of Books on NeXTbus Specs & NBIC Specs
Date: 10 Nov 1993 14:16:58 GMT
Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2bqt4q$997@inxs.concert.net>
I have four books on the NeXTbus specification and on the NeXTbus
Interface Chip Specifications as well. They will be sold as sets for
$125.00 (plus $15) for shipping.
Please EMAIL or call 919-682-8553.
Dave
--
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"A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller" (919) 682-1126 [fax]
From: f91el@efd.lth.se (Erik Lindahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: which SCSI-CD for NS/FIP ?
Date: 10 Nov 1993 14:49:58 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Message-ID: <2bqv2m$mg7@nic.lth.se>
So, I'm eventually going over to NS :-)
I know that I need a SCSI CD and preferrably an adaptec card.
Now, my problem is this:
I'm waiting for a laptop too... and if possible it would be nice to
be able to use the CD with this machine too.
Now, will any SCSI-CD rom work with nextstep (i.e., is there a
"general SCSI" kind of driver) or do I have to make sure that the drive
is supported?
If it need to be supported, I'v been looking at a NEC-38 portable SCSI CD,
is this unit supported? (Or do you have any recommendations of external,
SCSI CD's for NS at a reasonable price?)
Erik Lindahl
f91el@efd.lth.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: schaik@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (Willem van Schaik)
Subject: Re: Do you use a 3.5" Magneto optical with Black hardware?
Message-ID: <1993Nov10.142245.27996@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>
Sender: news@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Communications & Processing Services, Eindhoven
References: <2bh4je$14u@umcc.umcc.umich.edu> <CG8FGn.9C1@sparc15.cs.cuhk.hk>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 14:22:45 GMT
skwong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai Kee (Graduate Assistant)) writes:
>I also want to know whether the NS3.2 support Fujitsu M2511A for black
>?
Same question for NS3.0.
Willem
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From: soward@amstel.inslab.uky.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sharing a SCSI device between a Mac and a NeXT?
Date: 10 Nov 93 10:51:36
Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <soward.93Nov10105136@amstel.inslab.uky.edu>
References: <2bh73a$7f8@spock.dis.cccd.edu> <1993Nov8.212402.1565@nidat.sub.org> <espritCG91tr.8uI@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Hmm, I remember a long, long time ago, back when a 40Meg SCSI would run you $500, seeing a Mac and an Amiga hooked up, simultaneously to the same drive...both running at the same time...and it worked....of course you could break it if you wanted, but...
basically as long as the OS is prepared for the device to leave (unmounted, etc) then it can leave the SCSI bus usually without harm, but there is the risk of odd electrical things occuring...of course some hardware mods could reduce this risk, but to eliminate it completely would be more difficult.
---
John Soward \ 'Across yonder oceans the natives are fierce
University of Kentucky \ Their ears are filled and their teeth are pierced'
soward@inslab.uky.edu \ -- The Church, Priest=Aura
From: zccq1121@rpool7.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Ulrich Bortfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: use line printer with NSfIP / compiling tcsh
Date: 10 Nov 1993 15:59:53 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <2br35p$sko@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
hi there!
- i would like to use an old matrix printer connected
to the parallel port of my nextstep pc as a lineprinter.
does anybody know, how to setup the netinfo/printcap
database for this purpose.
- has anybody succeded compiling tcsh for nextstep 3.1 ?
please mail me the config.h and makefile.
please reply with email to: zccq1121@rus.uni-stuttgart.de
thanks in advance,
ulrich
From: williams@cac.stratus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Looking For NeXTSTEP Integrators, VARS, VADS in Mass. area
Date: 10 Nov 1993 16:02:50 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <2br3ba$lra@transfer.stratus.com>
Keywords: NeXTSTEP, integrator, VAR, VAD, Mass.
We are currently looking for quotes on some specific 486 configurations
for NeXTSTEP, from integrators, VARs, or VADs in the Massachusetts (Conn.,
RI, southern NH) area. If you know of any, please send me names and
phone numbers.
Regards,
Eric
--
----
Eric Williams EMAIL: williams@cac.stratus.com
Stratus Computer Inc. FAX : (508) 480-9368
Marlboro, Ma. 01752-1298 PHONE: (508) 460-2915
NeXT Mail Welcome...
From: austin@after.usask.ca (Alvin Austin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SUMMARY -- Re: ISA bus video cards for NeXTSTEP/Intel
Date: 10 Nov 1993 16:16:23 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2br44n$75i@tribune.usask.ca>
I recently polled the net for information on ISA video cards
compatible with NeXTSTEP/FIP...
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
> Subject: ISA bus video cards for NeXTSTEP/Intel
> Date: 3 Nov 1993 00:11:22 GMT
> Message-ID: <2b6sva$dle@tribune.usask.ca>
>
> The NeXT 3.1 hardware compatibility guide (Sept 13/93 pages 9 and 11)
> state that certain ISA-bus video cards based on the Cirrus Logic
> GD542X and Tseng Labs ET-4000AX work with NeXTSTEP/Intel in
> 2-bit greyscale mode.
>
> The only specific model listed is the STB Horizon card with 512KB RAM.
>
> I'd like to know which other ones HAVE BEEN TESTED and have been
> found to JUST WORK with NeXTSTEP. There are a lot of 486 machines
> around for which this type of card is the only option for reasonable
> video resolution (greater than 640 x 480). We have machines in our
> labs that fall into this category... :-(
>
> Please post here or email me if you have used other models
> successfully. Perhaps we can come up with a list of them.
>
.. and I received a few replies, which are reproduced below.
Thanks to those who took time to reply:
jcs@alumni.cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Denny Chuang <chi@watserv.ucr.edu>
richard@localhost.rhein-main.de (Richard Scholz)
===========
From: jcs@alumni.cco.caltech.edu (John C. Stevenson)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 18:46:39 PST
Subject: ISA video
Welcomne to ISA graphics.
here's what i've personally discovered so far.
1. Diamond speedstar (ET400AX) just works but out of production
2. STB Horizon (Cirus Logic) only works after typing exit in
the greatly distorted login panel. took me 6 months to find this magic.
3. Genoa Multimedia - just works YEA
^ (ET4000AX)
===========
From: Denny Chuang <chi@watserv.ucr.edu>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 12:21:23 -0800
Subject: Re: ISA bus video cards for NeXTSTEP/Intel
I am using a ET4000AX VL Bus video card on my Intel machine.
The company sell it is (310)924-1768 You can ask them about the
ET4000 VLB video card they've got. Tell them that you are
interested
in the ET4000 video card that Denny got before.
Denny
===========
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 20:33:31 +0100
From: richard@localhost.rhein-main.de (Richard Scholz)
Subject: Re: ISA bus video cards for NeXTSTEP/Intel
I used a Eizo VA42 ISA VGA Card successfully at 1024x768*2bit on a Eizo
560T with the ET4000 under NeXTSTEP.
It has a little annoyance: The mouse cursor disappears at a certain
horizontal position. It reappears when you move the mouse away from it.
Besides that it works fine.
Richard
Richard Scholz, Frankfurt, Germany (richard@silber.rhein-main.de)
=============
From: [omitted]@NeXT.COM
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 93 14:25:11 -0700
Subject: ISA Graphics cards
I have tried the Genoa card on only one of the machines here. It worked
fine. I would suggest that you evaluate one before buying more.
Here is the information:
Genoa 7900 series (AT Bus) - 1024X768 2 bit.
Approx $100 US.
Genoa Systems Corp.
Technical Support Department
75 East Trimble Road
San Jose, CA 95131
(408) 432-9123
(408) 434-0997 (FAX)
=================
= NOTE: After receiving the last message (above), I was in
= touch with Genoa Systems Corp., and they told me
= that the 7900 series card has been out of production
= for quite some time.
=
= They do have a model 8500 ISA graphics card built
= around the Cirrus Logic GD5426 accelerator, but had
= no idea if/how it worked with NeXTSTEP/FIP.
=================
If anyone else has experience with ISA graphics cards and
NeXTSTEP/FIP at resolutions greater than 640x480, please
post them here.
Thanks again to those who responded.
Alvin
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Department of Computational Science (NeXTmail ok!)
(Mail) 1C101 Engineering Building Office: 145.1 Arts Building
University of Saskatchewan Telephone: (306) 966-4895
Saskatoon, Sask. CANADA S7N 0W0 FAX: (306) 966-4885
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From: shukin@duke.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Modems and NS/FIP
Date: 10 Nov 1993 16:16:56 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <2br45o$6e9@tribune.usask.ca>
I am considering upgrading my Modem on my NeXTstep Computer. I am
considering an internal 14.4 with Fax Capabilities. The reason I want to
do this is that I do not want to have to go throught the pain and expense
of adding a Serial Port with a 16550c UWART. I figure I can save money
as most internals have a 16550 built on.
Therefore, I am wondering what internal fax / data modems are known to be
compatible with NeXTstep /FIP?
Should I stick to the External modems?
If so, what are some recomendations for high speed serial cards for a ISA
bus PC?
Thanks
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Geoff Shukin | _ ___
| |\ | |_ \/ | step
NeXT User and Proud of it. | | \| |_ /\ | rules!
Windows NT: It's not NeXT, but. | My opinions are just that!
Voice: (306) 933-6415 | NeXTMail--> shukin@siast.sk.ca
Internet addresses: shukin@doc.siast.sk.ca OR shukin@jester.usask.ca
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1993Nov10.145440.6325@afs.com>
Sender: greg@afs.com
References: <23382@news.duke.edu>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 14:54:40 GMT
In article <23382@news.duke.edu> blake015@mc.duke.edu (Denise Blakeley)
writes:
> Advanced Business Systems has been patiently waiting for WordPerfect
> Corporation to send me a beta of WordPerfect 6.0...just a couple of
> minutes ago, I received this facsimile from Nathan S. Hatch (Manager,
> UNIX Product Marketing for WordPerfect Corporation)
>
> [munch text of WordPerfect's letter]
This is ... difficult ... news, but for people who need cross-platform
WordPerfect document compatibility, all is not lost. Please read Anderson
Financial Systems' press release (in c.s.n.announce) concerning some new
features for our pending word processor, WriteUp.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "History is the fiction we invent to
Revisionist Autobiographer | persuade ourselves that events are
Anderson Financial Systems | knowable and that life has order and
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | direction." -- Calvin & Hobbes, 7/19/93
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: moritz@fruit_loops (Moritz Farbstein)
Subject: Looking for digital video compression hardware
Message-ID: <1993Nov10.225754.18096@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 22:57:54 GMT
Does anyone have information about digital video compression
hardware (any format) for NeXTStep (black, white, other)?
--
Moritz Farbstein <NeXTMail: moritz@il.us.swissbank.com>
Swiss Bank Corp, 4225 Naperville Road, Lisle IL 60532
[These are my own viewpoints, not my employer's.] (708) 955-6972
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware
From: mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach)
Subject: Re: Sharing display between systems
Message-ID: <1993Nov11.000540.14591@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <dgursky.752420116@news.andi.org>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 00:05:40 GMT
NB: Bounce to user
David Gursky (dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org) wrote:
: I am going to be setting up a lab that will likely consists of an equal number
: of H-P 9000/715 workstations and Intel-based PCs running NEXTSTEP and possibly
: DOS/Windows as well. In the interest of space and cost, I'd rather not buy
: monitors for each individual workstation, but rather for each seat in the lab,
: and then have a switchbox to control whether the monitor is connected to the
: H-P or the Intel box.
: I know there are switch boxes for the RGB video that is typically used on the
: large 19" and 21" monitors that the H-P uses, but are the video cards and
: drivers for Intel-based PC (specifically that can be used by NEXTSTEP) that
: will drive such a monitor? Are there other factors in sharing a monitor
: among different hosts that I am overlooking?
The ATI Ultra PRO VLB card can be used with an RGB monitor; all you need
is the $12 adapter cable from your local computer shop (we get ours from
Fry's) that takes the SVGA output and maps the signals to 5 BNC cables.
If your monitor takes 3 BNC cables in, you need to map the Vertical Sync
and Horizontal Sync to Green and Blue.
I can send a cable diagramm if you'd like.
: --
: David M. Gursky MIME and NEXTMAIL accepted
: Synex, Inc. e-mail: .. dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org
: 5950 Symphony Woods Road voice: ............. (301) 621-5732
: Columbia, MD 21044 fax: ............. (301) 621-6005
Matt Petach
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pete@coos.dartmouth.edu (Pete Schmitt)
Subject: Playing the CDROM with a Music CD
Message-ID: <CGAtrI.EtK@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Sender: news@dartvax.dartmouth.edu (The News Manager)
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 23:11:41 GMT
I have the NeXT CD on an 040 cube with NeXTStep 3.1 installed.
When I plug the CD into the drive, it fails to mount and the system
wants to initialize it. The CDPlay software doesn't see a CD there.
What am I (or the system) doing wrong??
-pete
--
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UNIX Systems Specialist Dartmouth College
Phone: (603)646-2085 Kiewit Comp. Ctr.
FAX: (603)646-2810 Hanover, NH 03755
From: bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Q: dual-headed NeXT / NeXTdimension?
Message-ID: <1993Nov11.002759.29865@cs.wisc.edu>
Date: 11 Nov 93 00:27:59 GMT
Sender: news@cs.wisc.edu (The News)
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
This is directed at all you NeXTdimension users out there. What is the
scoop about having a dual-headed cube with 2 monitors? Do you get two views
of the same workspace or are they non-overlapping, like a Mac?
Now for the hard one - would it be possible to have a dual headed cube with an
040 and 030 board? What I want is to get two different displays out of my
NeXT (no, not two displays of the same thing). I'm toying with the idea of
hooking this up to two LCD screens (somehow) for a head mounted display.
Would this require _TWO_ NeXTdimension boards? Is that even possible - ignoring
for the moment that I am a broke graduate student :)
Cheers,
- Gareth (bestor@cs.wisc.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley)
Subject: Re: Discontinued: Nanao 21" Greyscale Monitor - Flexscan 6500
Message-ID: <scratch.752978511@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca>
Keywords: Nanao Greyscale Monitor Discontinued Flexscan 6500
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <scratch.752913292@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca> <2br7kt$dj7@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 00:41:51 GMT
liuyu@acf2.nyu.edu (liuyu) writes:
>scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) writes:
>>All who envision requiring such a large greyscale monitor can
>>join me in encouraging Nanao to reverse its decision.
By the way, Nanao's phone number is (310) 325-5202 and Fax number
is (310) 530-1679
>How much does this monitor go? I love a big and clear greyscale
>monitor.
I'm not sure how much one costs in the US. Best to call Nanao.
--
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Dept. of Systems and Computer Engineering | phone: (613) 788-5740 (Dept.)
Carleton University | (613) 241-6952 (Home)
Ottawa, ON, CANADA K1S 5B6 | fax: (613) 788-5727 (Dept.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: qsafi@qsafi (Quabidur R. Safi)
Subject: NS and Pentium ?
Message-ID: <CGB590.EG7@zcias2.ziff.com>
Keywords: Pentium
Sender: news@zcias2.ziff.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Ziff Information Services
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 03:19:47 GMT
I was wondering has anybody tried installing NS/FIP on a Pentium machine ?
Quabid
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jag@seguente (Jagdish Narasimhan)
Subject: AMI motherboard --- NeXTstep questions
Message-ID: <1993Nov11.030638.7624@ximage.com>
Sender: usenet@ximage.com (Usenet accout)
Organization: XImage Corp.
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 03:06:38 GMT
I am considering the following two options :
A : AMI Enterprise IV motherboard for running NeXTstep. I have a couple
of questions regarding this :
1. Can I use 8mb/4mb simms off a NeXTstation ?
2. Are 2.88MB floppy drives NeXTstep supported ? ...Apparently, the
motherboard has 2.88MB support on floppy interface
3. Any NeXTstep 3.2 experiences...
A : Deico motherboard for running NeXTstep. I have a couple of
questions regarding this :
1. Can I use 8mb/4mb simms off a NeXTstation ?
2. Are 2.88MB floppy drives NeXTstep supported ? ...Apparently, the
motherboard has 2.88MB support on floppy interface
3. Is onboard SCSI-2 / Ethernet supported...Apparently the SCSI-2 is
adaptec based...
3. Any NeXTstep 3.2 experiences...
Thanks for any info...
jag@ximage.com
From: zryx0376@awssg7.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: AudiPro16 and Logitech Bus Mouse IRQ's
Date: 11 Nov 1993 08:55:43 GMT
Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <2bsumf$1evv@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <6M53sAoEBh107h@softpac.com.au>
Keywords: AudioPro Bus Mouse
In article <6M53sAoEBh107h@softpac.com.au> dave@softpac.com.au writes:
>DOS/Audio Spectrum16 is not flexible as to interupts, and will only allow
>interupts 5 and 7. At present, IRQ5 is used by the parrallel port and we are
>having difficulty changing this. Is NeXTStep able to work around this? How?
>It will not allow us to use IRQ5 for LPT1. What other fixed IRQ's (eg com
>ports) are built in?
>
>Also, what is the best setting for a Logitech Bus mouse? Any body got one
>working out there?
I have a Logitech bus mouse installed at IRQ 5. LPT1 of course has to be set
to IRQ 7, I cannot see why this should not be possible. However, you could
go and try jumpering the bus mouse card to IRQ 2, which NS reports free on
my system. Furthermore, I havo no problems configuring the ProAudio Spectrum 16
to IRQ 10,12,13,15 - choose whatever you want. I think 15 is best.
Regards,
Markus.
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From: zryx0376@awssg7.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel (Hiwi bei R.Rabenseifner))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: AudiPro16 and Logitech Bus Mouse IRQ's
Date: 11 Nov 1993 09:02:04 GMT
Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <2bsv2c$1g77@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <6M53sAoEBh107h@softpac.com.au> <1993Nov9.143932.14165@Princeton.EDU>
In article <1993Nov9.143932.14165@Princeton.EDU> gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
>You mean the sound board? Sound has been a bit problematic, in my
>experience; but I have mostly glitches, not complete breakdowns, to
>report. Playing system alert sounds and short files works fine, but
>some colleagues have reported difficulty playing long files (the sound
>just stops). It's also sometimes a bit crackly. But on the system
>that provides the best sound support for us (i.e., a Lexar), I've
>never seen sound cause a system to freeze up, as some have reported.
I'll show you the freeze up, any time you want to :-((((
Regards,
Markus.
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From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler)
Subject: Keyboard cable extension?
Message-ID: <CGBGMC.3AL@tdocad.sps.mot.com>
Sender: news@tdocad.sps.mot.com
Organization: Nippon Motorola Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 07:25:23 GMT
I love my slab, but I wish it wouldn't sit so close to me...
Is there a cable M-F that can give me a few few from the sound box to the keyboard?
Thanks in advance.
Michael Shaler
Motorola/Tokyo
From: christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu (Christopher R. Douty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Q: dual-headed NeXT / NeXTdimension?
Date: 11 Nov 1993 10:10:19 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA
Message-ID: <2bt32b$js3@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
References: <1993Nov11.002759.29865@cs.wisc.edu>
In article <1993Nov11.002759.29865@cs.wisc.edu> bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu
(Gareth Bestor) writes:
> This is directed at all you NeXTdimension users out there. What is the
> scoop about having a dual-headed cube with 2 monitors? Do you get two views
> of the same workspace or are they non-overlapping, like a Mac?
You get one large, lovely display split over two monitors. In other
words you get one workspace spread over both monitors. The monitors have a
preferences module which lets you define which one is the center and the
logical relationship between the two. I suppose if you stuff two ND cards in a
cube, you could have THREE displays.
However I will second your other question. Does anyone have a clue if
you can have two processor boards function with a NeXTdimension? Has anyone
using the "screw with the backplane trick" or Sperical's EPB used a
NeXTdimension, or anyother NB card?
Ya' see. I've got my old 25MHz 040 sitting in a box because I don't
want to be the first to discover that two motherboards and a ND blow up the
cube. #8^)
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From: seubert@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Klemens Seubert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT LP squeeks during printing
Date: 11 Nov 1993 11:28:32 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <2bt7l0$j84@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
>
> My Next Laser printer squeeks badly while
> paper is running through, like some moving
> part needs oil.
>
> Can't find any help in doc.s that
> came with it.
>
> What should I do to keep it from dying?
>
> Tom Kunkle
The same does the NeXT-Laser at our department so I am interested, too.
Thanks,
Klemens
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From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Extended Monitor Cable for NSTC ADB?
Date: 11 Nov 1993 12:38:34 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2btboa$q8n@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
It would be nice to be able to place my
slab (NSTC ADB, sound box of course) far
away. Any cable options, or am I tied to
the (admittedly nice looking, but loud :-| )
monitor-on-slab combo?
Thanks
R. de Lucca
Johns Hopkins University
From: thor@sushi.uib.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Canon BJC 600 on NeXTSTEP???
Date: 11 Nov 1993 13:52:27 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2btg2r$sga@due.uninett.no>
Hi.
I'm buying a printer for my NeXT, and have come down to a choice
between two printers - the HP DJ550C and Canons new BJC600.
They cost the same at the offers I've received.
Easy question - does the BJC600 work on NeXTSTEP? Here's why
I wonder...
I know that there are PD support programs (drivers) for the HP,
but the quality of the Canon looks much better, both output,
use of ink, and cost per page. I have verified with Canon
that the engine is _better_ tha the BJC800 used in the
NeXT Color printer. However, although Canon said that the
600's control language was compatible with the 800, they
beleive that NeXT has designed their own controller for the
NeXT Color printer. I have looked at the printing package
and modified a PPD and pmdb file for use with a 600 on a
serial port (slow, I know) through the standard NXColorBJ
driver. I haven't a printer to try - but if the controller
is Canons standard in the NeXT printer, it _should_ work
with the 600 as well...
So - I _really_ want to buy the Canon.
Is there:
1) existing drivers in 3.1, 3.2, or available PD/Shareware to
controll this model?
2) anyone out there who has used this printer with NeXTSTEP?
3) anyone out there who knows that a driver is under way? I
would buy the printer today and use it in Epson (B/W) compatibility
mode for 6 months if I knew a driver was being written... I'd
write it myself if I had the faintest idea how to :-)
I imagine with all the Intel users getting NeXTSTEP _someone_
must have a BJC600 they have hacked to work with NS, no?
Please e-mail replies.
Regards,
--
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NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known..."
University of Bergen | -Jim Morrison, The Doors
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: MIDI interface for black (040) hardware
Message-ID: <CGBC7w.pq@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <2bojai$h81@nic.lth.se>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 05:50:19 GMT
In article <2bojai$h81@nic.lth.se> d89cb@efd.lth.se (Christian Brunschen)
writes:
#
#I am looking into getting a MIDI interface for my cube. I'd prefer
#something as inexpensive as possible, and wouldn't mind building it
#myself. So, does anyone have info on
#
#a) what commercial MIDI-interfaces there are for NeXTs, black hardware with
# 040 (ie, the RS-423 port)
#
#b) if there are any build-it-yourself plans for such a beast, or something
# that could be easily adapted ?
I'm using an Opcode MidiTranslator with a custom cable. The custom cable is
as follows.
It requires an asymetrical cable. I got the info from somewhere
but I forget where. Anyway I took out my trusty ohmmeter and
checked the connections on my cable.
Here they are.
NeXT '040 side Opcode MT side
1 -------------------------- 2
2 -------------------------- 1
3 -------------------------- 5
4 -------------------------- 8
5 -------------------------- 3
6 -------------------------- 6
7 -------------------------- 7
8 - NC 4 - NC
(NC = No Connection)
This cable works for me. I'm not responsible if it doesn't
work on your machine or it goes poof!
It does work on my cube and also worked on a ColorStation.
Kent
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From: BOOSC@EZINFO.VMSMAIL.ETHZ.CH (Chris Boos)
Subject: Drivers for NE1000 Ethernet Card and Soundblaster for INTEL ?
Message-ID: <CGC0A5.367@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: ETH a school stuck in a dead city
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 14:30:04 GMT
hi there...
I have just instalkled NeXTStep for Intel...
Two problems:
I wnat to hook the machine up to a network, and the only Ethernet adapter I
could spare was a Novell NE 1000 8 Bit card. It is a PC standard, so I figured
there should be drivers for NeXT the problem is, I CANNOT find them anywhere.
Second there is a Soundblaster Pro in the machine. The Soundblaster is the most
widely spread soundcard for PCs there should be some drivers too, but again I
have no idea where ?
Can anybody help me out ??
Thanx
Chris
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From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Q: dual-headed NeXT / NeXTdimension?
Message-ID: <CGC1wn.I3C@news.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services
References: <1993Nov11.002759.29865@cs.wisc.edu> <2bt32b$js3@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 15:02:21 GMT
Christopher R. Douty (christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu) wrote:
: However I will second your other question. Does anyone have a clue if
: you can have two processor boards function with a NeXTdimension? Has anyone
: using the "screw with the backplane trick" or Sperical's EPB used a
: NeXTdimension, or anyother NB card?
I've run my "screw with the backplane trick" cube with :
| <empty> | 32MB-ND | | 64MB-040 | 40MB-030 |
without any problems. Using the od got the system warm, but never had a
problem. The cool part was having the printer on the 030. One day I
tried to dump an 040 into the 030 position, but I couldn't get it to boot.
I played for a couple minutes, but put the 030 back in and went on with
life...
peter
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY -- Re: ISA bus video cards for NeXTSTEP/Intel
Message-ID: <1993Nov11.162556.1814@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
References: <2br44n$75i@tribune.usask.ca>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 16:25:56 GMT
Since this was only a short list of tested video adapters I dare
to add some entries from my own experiences:
I tested two no-name ISA-cards with ET4000AX chips. Both performed
without any problems. On my dx/2 66MHz (16MB,AHA1542,960MB) they
achieved an NXBench factor of approx. 0.45.
A VLB-card with an ET4000/W32i chip. The DA part seemed to be slightly
defective since the picture was not sharp in higher resolutions.
But this was the same for Linux and Windows, so I would blame it
on the card (we got two more cards that showed up the same phenomenon).
Nevertheless it run with NSfIP in my VLB board, and it gave a
NXBench factor of about 0.70.
I was quite impressed. I had expected that the Tseng driver won't
use neither the VLB advantages nor the W32i features.
Gregor
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From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sharing a SCSI device between a Mac and a NeXT?
Date: 11 Nov 1993 11:05:19 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311111531.AA29537@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de>
There have been a lot of people wondering wether it might be possible
to share a SCSI device between a Mac and a NeXT. SCSI itself would
allow to do a thing like that; way in the past i have installed
several systems consisting of a MSDOS-PC, two ATARI TT, three
harddisks and a scanner, all working simultaneously on the same
SCSI-Bus. - I may be forgiven :-)
But this is very complicated, and in the configuration in question
very much impossible:
- The physical setup is the first problem. Whenever you connect
several SCSI devices, you are likely to run in to trouble getting the
termination right. In theory, it sounds easy: use a TOTAL of maximum
6 meters flat ribbon cable, and terminate on both ends (forget about
round cable in bigger SCSI setups, they just damage the signals to
much, most specifications allow only 2 meters, if part of the cabling
is not flat ribbon type). But every connector causes a loss in signal
quality, and also you have to be very careful, about how the
terminator power is supplied.
- Almost any host (definitely including the NeXT hardware and most
SCSI adapters for PCs) is physically able to perform a bus
arbitration, but some drivers just don't execute it :-( In that
case: forget about it, it wont work.
- Next problem: Since the host itself is a SCSI device to, it also
has to have a SCSI ID. Most drivers are wired to address 7. If you
are not able to change this for one of the hosts, all dreams end
here.
- Since most drivers have no idea about other hosts on the SCSI bus,
they are not very well prepared to get timeouts on the bus. Whoever
had R/W-problems on the harddisk of his NeXT, knows, that it is very
likely to crash, whenever it runs into problems reading from the
disk.
- You would have to have the two operating systems on different
harddisks (not even considering to have it on partitions on the same
disk, how do you make a NeXT boot from the second partition of a
MAC-formatted disk or vice versa), and then the problem will be: how
does the machine now, from which partition/disk to boot?
I hope that gives you a rough idea.
gerti
From: diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx (Diego Martin Zamboni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Has anyone tried NS on ALR?
Date: 11 Nov 1993 16:24:37 GMT
Organization: UNIVERSIDAD NACIONAL AUTONOMA DE MEXICO
Message-ID: <2btp05$pmu@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Hi:
I'm considering buying an ALR Pentium machine for using NS.
Someone told me he installed it succesfully on an Evolution V/60, but
I'm wondering if somebody has used it on an Evolution V-Q. ALR told me
that they tested NS on an Evolution IV, but nobody has been able to tell
me anything about the V-Q.
Comments, anyone?
Thanks a lot.
--
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From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne)
Subject: Good external hard drive for a NeXtstation?
Message-ID: <1993Nov11.180431.28869@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 18:04:31 GMT
We want to buy an external hard drive for an old 25MHz 68040
NeXTstation. We're looking for something around 500 Mb or so.
Does anyone out these have any recommendations? Good experiences? Bad
experiences?
--
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"With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain."
Friedrich von Schiller
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Intel CD-ROM and Tape Drive questions
Message-ID: <1993Nov11.172624.1917@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 17:26:24 GMT
I am working on a Intel machine. NEXTSTEP is running, but I am having the
following problems, and would like some ideas.
I have an Adaptek 1542C with a HP Drive at 0, a Wangtek 1/4 Inch Tape
drive at 4, and a NEC Internal CD-ROM at 6. The HP ends the chain and is
terminated.
Problem 1: The CD-ROM will read data CD's great, but does not like music
CD's. When I put a music CD in, it appears as to be checking, checking,
checking, then request that I eject it. When I bring up CD player, it
never appears to understand the Music CD. THe only CD Player action i can
take to have any effect is to choose the eject button.
Problem 2: The tape drive accepts a tape and does its stuff at the
beginning, and then sits there quitely. I try to run
# tar c /
AND I GET THE FLOOWING MESSAGE
tar: /dev/rxt0: No such device
#
Now, I am not a tape drive, or tar expert, so any suggestions are
welcomed. On other systems, you sometimes have to format the tapes. Is
this the case here? If so, how is that done. Also, what utilities are
there to help me invesigate/diagnose any problems. Lastly, what good
NEXTSTEP software is there to archive and backup to this type of device.
Thanks in advance.
Wes Spears
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: Working soundcards for NSfIP ?
Message-ID: <1993Nov11.191959.5493@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 19:19:59 GMT
Since the information about which soundcards really work with
NSfIP and with which configurations, I think it would be nice
to collect the experiences of users and post a summary to the
net.
I think questions of interest are:
1.) Which sound cards do you have tested with NSfIP ?
- which failed (cfg.?)
- which work (brand and type) ?
- without problems ?
- do they crash the system from time to time ?
- do they hang and get quiet ?
2.) Additional information about sound cards in NS 3.2 ?
Mainly to the beta testers:
- anyone tried MS Sound system or Compaq Business Audio ?
- better performance/reliability with PAS 16 ?
Please answer to 'flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de'. I will post
a summary.
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From: fdomingu@rainbow.UWaterloo.ca (Francisco Dominguez)
Subject: SyQuest drives on the NeXT
Message-ID: <CGCB9C.G2G@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 18:27:10 GMT
If anyone has had any experience with using SyQuest drives on the NeXT,
I'd appreciate any information which may help me to read PC formatted
SyQuest disks on the NeXT. I'd also like to know what format the NeXT
initializes these suckers with, I'd assume it's their own format.
Thanks in advance and send me email so that I can post a summary later on.
Francisco,
fdomingu@zeus.uwaterloo.ca
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From: crespo@vcd.hp.com (Ivan Crespo)
Subject: Re: Canon BJC 600 on NeXTSTEP???
Sender: news@vcd.hp.com (News user)
Message-ID: <CRESPO.93Nov11115653@hpvclic.vcd.hp.com>
In-Reply-To: thor@sushi.uib.no's message of 11 Nov 1993 13:52:27 GMT
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 19:56:52 GMT
References: <2btg2r$sga@due.uninett.no>
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
> I'm buying a printer for my NeXT, and have come down to a choice
> between two printers - the HP DJ550C and Canons new BJC600.
> They cost the same at the offers I've received.
>
> Easy question - does the BJC600 work on NeXTSTEP? Here's why
> I wonder...
>
> I know that there are PD support programs (drivers) for the HP,
> but the quality of the Canon looks much better, both output,
> use of ink, and cost per page.
Well, the BJC600 is a very nice color printer. But in my opinion,
Canon compromised black print quality in order to get good results
with color. The HP 550C, on the other hand, gives you very good
color without compromising black only output.
So I would say that if you need only a color printer, buy the BJC600,
but if you want a color printer that will also give you good black
print quality then take another look at the DJ550C.
Another option would be the DJ1200C which is a great color printer
with great black print quality and it supports Postscript..
i.
--
PS. I tried to make a fair comparison, but of course I am very
biased... I work for HP, AND I worked on the HP550C.
From: mcgredo@crl.com (Donald R. McGregor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel GX sources
Date: 11 Nov 1993 10:47:45 -0800
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2bu1ch$8d6@crl.crl.com>
Does anyone have recommended vendors for the Intel GX,
lease or buy?
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From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Lexmark 4079 color inkjet printer (PostScript) on a NeXT???
Date: 11 Nov 1993 19:03:32 GMT
Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. at Aarhus University
Message-ID: <2bu2a4$su9@belfort.daimi.aau.dk>
Hi,
I just got access to a Lexmark 4079 color postscript printer for the mac.
Can I use it with the NeXT?
Thanks in advance
-- Jens
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From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: Drivers for NE1000 Ethernet Card and Soundblaster for INTEL ?
Message-ID: <1993Nov11.180119.5382@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
References: <CGC0A5.367@bernina.ethz.ch>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 18:01:19 GMT
In article <CGC0A5.367@bernina.ethz.ch> BOOSC@EZINFO.VMSMAIL.ETHZ.CH
(Chris Boos) writes:
> hi there...
>
> I have just instalkled NeXTStep for Intel...
>
> Two problems:
> I wnat to hook the machine up to a network, and the only Ethernet
> adapter Icould spare was a Novell NE 1000 8 Bit card. It is a PC
> standard, so I figured there should be drivers for NeXT the problem is,
> ICANNOT find them anywhere. Second there is a Soundblaster Pro in the
> machine. The Soundblaster is the most widely spread soundcard for PCs
> there should be some drivers too, but again Ihave no idea where ?
>
You can't find them because there are no drivers for either of those
cards. Its kind of doubtful that there ever will be. I think most of the
network card effort is being put into the newer 16 bit ethernet cards
which people tend to put into the higher performing machines. The sound
card effort is also focusing on the 16 bit side du to bandwidth
utilization and sound quality issues.
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
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Voice: 919.783.7033
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: new DEC XL hardware
Date: 11 Nov 1993 20:07:25 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2bu61t$ef8@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <ZHAO.93Nov10130744@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) writes:
>
> From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble)
> > Under operating systems available it lists SCO, Unix,
> > Windows, Windows NT, MS-DOS and OS/2. Notice something missing?
>
> Has any of them, DEC, DELL, COMPAQ, EPSON, ALR, GATEWAY, NEC ... put
> NeXTSTEP supported
> or
> NeXTSTEP ready
> or
> NeXTSTEP logo
> in its catalog, yet ?
For what it's worth, one of the guys I work with got a bunch
of pamphlets about some upcoming HP conference (or meeting,
or other kinda event). Some of those pamphlets did include
some NeXTSTEP logo on the back of it.
--
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCI on-board SCSI supported in NS/FIP 3.2 (or later) ?
Date: 11 Nov 1993 22:06:43 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <2bud1j$dm7@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I am considering to buy a PC with PCI local bus. There are quite a few
boards with integrated SCSI interface. The board I want to get is
manufactured by Elitegroup and uses the NCR chip 53C810 PT to implement
the SCSI interface.
Does anybody have a clue, wether NextStep 3.2 (or later) is going to
support this on-board SCSI interface ?
Or should I rather get the Intel PCI board without on-board SCSI ?
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From: andylee@nic.cerf.net (Andy Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Daydream (was Re: That Funny Mac Box?)
Date: 11 Nov 1993 14:03:28 -0800
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer
Message-ID: <2bucrg$nc2@nic.cerf.net>
References: <1993Nov5.170349.14912@aragorn.unibe.ch> <CG2BHt.1x0@pampero.ka.sub.org>
Sebastian Kowalski (snk@pampero.ka.sub.org) wrote:
> I saw it on last thursday working with a NeXT mono station. Just plug in
> the hardware to the DSP port, install the Software and start. It works
> fine....
I called the company two months ago, they claimed the product is "all
ready to go" but they were having "legal" problems with NeXT, i.e.
NeXT won't let them urn another OS on NeXT hardware. I thought it
sounded suspicous, because NeXT certainly did not ask for permission
from Intel or Dell in order to port NeXTstep to Intel machines (or did
they?).
I don't know for sure what is going on with DayDream. But it sure
sounds like they are still working out the bugs, and made up the
"legal" problem story to keep the customer hanging... (I was going to
buy Executor before I saw the DayDream ad, but now I don't know if
DayDream will ever ship.)
Alaski
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: boonlow@kits.sfu.ca (Boon Chong Benjamin Low)
Subject: Re: PCI on-board SCSI supported in NS/FIP 3.2 (or later) ?
Message-ID: <boonlow.753076770@sfu.ca>
Sender: news@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
References: <2bud1j$dm7@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 03:59:30 GMT
ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker) writes:
>I am considering to buy a PC with PCI local bus. There are quite a few
>boards with integrated SCSI interface. The board I want to get is
>manufactured by Elitegroup and uses the NCR chip 53C810 PT to implement
>the SCSI interface.
>Does anybody have a clue, wether NextStep 3.2 (or later) is going to
>support this on-board SCSI interface ?
>Or should I rather get the Intel PCI board without on-board SCSI ?
>--
Acutally, I would also like to know the support for PCI boards too.
It's kind of nice to get a PCI motherboard with inbuilt SCSI as I wouldn't
have to spend extra to get another SCSI card compare to buying a
Local Bus motherboard.
I wish that there is somewhere/how that I know that there is a lists
of motherboards that NeXTSTEP supports. It's a pain in the *** if you get
a motherboard and have to return it if NeXTSTEP doesn't supports it.
Thanks for anyone with some info,
Ben.
From: hkusumo@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Haris Kusumo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: IBM for NeXT
Date: 12 Nov 1993 16:55:37 +1100
Organization: School of Computer Science, UTS
Message-ID: <2bv8gp$cf5@saturn.socs.uts.edu.au>
Summary: IBM for NeXT
Keywords: IBM for NeXT
Hi,
I just wondering if you know what video adapater chip set is used by IBM PS/VP
(S3-928, S3-805 or some other chip set), the one with max memory 2MB ot 1MB DRAM.
Is there any body out there using NeXT on IBM PS/VP ?, is there any problems running NeXT on IBM PS/VP ? (while installing & after installation)
Do I have to get a special driver to run NeXT ob IBM PS/VP ?
I'll be appreciated if you can send me some e-mail on this.
thanks in advance.
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From: therbert@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT LP squeeks during printing
Message-ID: <1993Nov11.205854.16307@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
Date: 11 Nov 93 20:58:53 EST
References: <2br84r$k03@cofc20.cs.cofc.edu> <2brbur$kg@genesis.ait.psu.edu>
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
In article <2brbur$kg@genesis.ait.psu.edu>, mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) writes:
> In article <2br84r$k03@cofc20.cs.cofc.edu> kunkle@harry.cofc.edu (Tom
> Kunkle) writes:
>>
>> My Next Laser printer squeeks badly while
>> paper is running through, like some moving
>> part needs oil.
>>
>> Can't find any help in doc.s that
>> came with it.
>>
>> What should I do to keep it from dying?
>>
>> Tom Kunkle
>
> My printer has also just started displaying this behavior so I too am
> interested in the cure. I can't figure out the location by listening.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark.
> --
> Mark Kotanchek
> Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB
> Applied Research Lab/Penn State
> P.O. Box 30
> State College, PA 16804
>
I had the same problem of a squeak while printing - Since I have two printers
and also could borrow a couple of cartridges from Apple Laserwriters, I did
some switching. - The squeak turned out to be comming from the cartridge.
I am still using the fairly new squeaking cartridge with out problem. I
can't promise that this is the solution but if it is, you are a lot better
off with a weird cartridge than a dying printer.
Get another cartridge if you can and check it out.
Tom Herbert
University of Miami
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mperry@netcom.com (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Intel CD-ROM and Tape Drive questions
Message-ID: <mperryCGDBHJ.q3@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <1993Nov11.172624.1917@weston.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 07:29:41 GMT
Wes,
> Problem 1: The CD-ROM will read data CD's great, but does not like music
> CD's.
There are several possible causes for the CDPlayer problem.
Make sure that /etc/kern_loader.conf
contains the line:
/usr/lib/kern_loader/Audio/audio_reloc
or the audio file system will not be installed.
> AND I GET THE FLOOWING MESSAGE
>
> tar: /dev/rxt0: No such device
/dev/rxt0 is the default device for tar. For a SCSI tape, you need to say:
tar cvf /dev/rst0 <files>
Michael Perry
mperry@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: HSD Scanners SCSI Termination
Message-ID: <CGCMI6.155@alembicla.com>
Keywords: SCSI
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1993 22:30:05 GMT
Oh great gurus come forth and decisively answer this question!
I have seen several HSD (a.k.a. UMAX) scanners in use without the external SCSI
terminator that is supplied with the unit. I some cases the user did not know any
better. In others they said, "It doesn't work with the terminator and it does work
wothout it." I have talked to HSD, UMAX and taken my scanner apart and all three sources
concur: there is no internal termination.
What gives?
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles
V: 310.371.6226
F: 310.371.0886
E: dave@AlembicLA.com
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles
V: 310.371.6226
F: 310.371.0886
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HSD Scanners SCSI Termination
Date: 12 Nov 1993 11:04:56 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311121617.AA28139@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de>
David W. Fahrney wrote:
> I have seen several HSD (a.k.a. UMAX) scanners in use
> without the external SCSI terminator that is supplied
> with the unit. I some cases the user did not know any
> better. In others they said, "It doesn't work with
> the terminator and it does work wothout it." I have
> talked to HSD, UMAX and taken my scanner apart and all
> three sources concur: there is no internal termination.
>
>What gives?
Too bad, you didn't tell us, wether the scanners are used on black or
white hardware. From the symptoms i assume white.
With passive termination it should be as follows:
Both (physical) ends of the SCSI line should be terminated. In white
hardware, usually the controller comes with preinstalled termination
resistor networks. So if you put that board and a harddisk (that
usually comes with preinstalled termination, too) into your box,
everything is fine, both ends are terminated.
Connecting a scanner to that setup on the external connector of the
controller, that controller all to sudden is NOT the physical end of
the line anymore!!! Without terminator on the scanner, that setup
might or might not work (depending on the length of the cable,
electric pollution in the air etc). With terminator, you would have
three terminators on the SCSI line (one in the 'middle'), and that
definitively exceeds the limits, and it will not work.
What to do?
If everything works, leave it, as it is. But in order to be on the
safe side, remove the termination resistor network on the
controllerboard, and terminate the scanner. On my machine, to which i
sometimes connect other devices, i have no terminator on the
controllerboard, and an external terminator on the external SCSI
connector of the board. This enables me to connect devices to this
setup, whenever needed, without having to open the pc.
gerti
From: t6882tm@network.cfc.com (Timothy Mills)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pars International Computer
Date: 12 Nov 1993 11:19:34 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311121649.AA04190@network.cfc.com>
Can anyone give me feedback about the NEXTSTEP compatible offerings
from a company called Pars International? They have an ad in the
latest NeXTWorld.
Their computer uses a 486 Super EISA/VP Motherboard from MCCI with a
capacity of 256MB RAM and 1MB cache, 32MB RAM, 256k cache, 500MB
Fujitsu SCSI-2 drive, 1.44MB Teac floppy, 17" Sony monitor, ATI Ultra
Pro 2MB VESA-Local Bus, Tectronix keyboard, the new MS mouse, Toshiba
SCSI-2 200msec CD-ROM and Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller for $4816.
This seems to be a very good deal. Has anyone purchased anything
from Pars? What are the performance and reliability like? How well
does NEXTSTEP perform? How good is the company? Any comments are
greatly appreciated.
This is for my own personal use, not for my employer or the client
for which I am currently working.
---
Timothy Mills t6882tm@network.cfc.com (NeXTmail welcomed!)
phone: 313-948-4959
From: ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTstep/Intel supported hardware listing, anyone?
Date: 12 Nov 1993 19:25:22 +0100
Organization: Hack-Tic, networking for the masses
Message-ID: <2c0kf0INN2vh@xs4all.hacktic.nl>
I'm upgrading my 386/33 system to 486 and will probably buy also a new video
card, SCSI controller and other stuff at the same time.
Currently I use NetBSD, but I'm hoping that I could move to NeXTstep soon.
So I would like to buy hardware that is supported also under NeXTstep. Does
anyone have a listing of supported SCSI controllers, video cards, CD-ROMs etc?
Sorry if this is FAQ, but I couldn't find the answer.
Please send email as I seldom have time to read this group.
Petri
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"Get stoned - drink wet concrete" HAM: OH2LJY
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From: garyc@netcom.com (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: Naming of Fujitsu SCSI HD models
Message-ID: <garycCGE3FG.HFA@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 17:33:15 GMT
Hi,
Can anyone enlighten me with the naming of Fujitsu SCSI-II hard disks?
Basically I am looking for the 1.0 GB 2694XXX models. I have found:
2694S
2694SA
2694ES
2694ESA
Some of them were listed 1.2 GB and 1.0 respectively. I seem to
remember the 'A' stands for 512bytes/block size. Doesn't NeXT uses 1K block?
Which one is approriate for the NeXTStation?
Many thanks,
Gary
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Mouse driver question
Message-ID: <1993Nov12.185501.20851@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 18:55:01 GMT
Just got a new box with NSI 3.1 preinstalled and noticed that there
are two mouse drivers (Bus Mouse and PS/2-Style Mouse) loaded in
Configure.app. When the machine boots it registers both (PcPointer0
& PcPointer1). The mouse is a Logitech Mouseman Bus mouse.
Everything is working**, but I was wondering if I should/could
remove the PS/2 entry.
** Well, almost everything. I've had three lock ups, always under
similar circumstances. The machine was busy launching several apps
(while logging in) and I launched terminal manually. Two times
terminal displayed its window and I did a high-speed click-Cmd-h
to hide it. Bang, everything stopped (including mouse pointer).
Third time Terminal didn't get its window displayed before it froze.
Alt-numlock would still bring up the Halt/Reboot/Continue panel,
but it wouldn't halt or reboot.
It's easily avoided, and the machine has been fine under heavy load
in all other circumstances (compilations, etc.). Hopefully this
will go away under 3.2 :-).
Machine specs (this is a no-name brand, so no-name that the guy who
built it for us hasn't recieved his company stickers to put on the
box yet):
VL/EISA-486SV1 motherboard (DX/2 66, Award BIOS)
ATI Ultra Pro 2 MB local bus
32 MB RAM
DPT 2012-B EISA SCSI controller
serial, parallel
Intel Ether Express 16 TP
Fujitsu Keyboard (registered as PS/2-Style in Configure.app)
--
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: Booting NS/Intel
Message-ID: <CGCsEr.1M9@alembicla.com>
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <1993Nov2.214726.3276@il.us.swissbank.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 00:37:39 GMT
In article <1993Nov2.214726.3276@il.us.swissbank.com> cuilla@black_silk (Chris Cuilla)
writes:
!> I have a NS/Intel machine...when I boot it...everything is fine, etc, etc.
!> And I'm asked which mode I want to boot in (NS or DOS) (after a delay of a
!> few seconds (if I don't respond) it automatically boots in DOS/Windows.)
!>
!> This happens everytime, even when I choose NS, the next time it does the
!> same thing. I believe it should be booting in NS by default once I select
!> NS. What am I doing wrong.
!>
It sounds like your DOS partition is the active partition. Try using fdisk to change the
active artition to the NeXTSTEP partition.
!> Also, I'm asked to press "F1" to proceed each time (before I'm prompted
!> for the OS of choice).
!>
I'm not sure about your F! problem. Sounds like something getting loaded into BIOS by
one of yor cards.
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles
V: 310.371.6226
F: 310.371.0886
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: HELP:Anyone knows the best NS color notebook?
Message-ID: <CGCvyr.1wo@alembicla.com>
Keywords: NSI notebook
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <CFwJ5w.3ws@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 01:54:26 GMT
> In article <CFwJ5w.3ws@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> patt@sage.cc.purdue.edu
> (Sam Li) writes: I am looking for a color notebook running NS, so can anyone tell me
> their experience or idea of the best color notebook configuration to run NS? When
> I mean the best, I mean something that has good NS graphics and networkability,
> and most definitely bug free with 3.1 or 3.2? I am thinking of an NEC or a Compaq, but
> any idea is welcome.
>
Basically there are no notebooks that support NS in color without a docking station and a
graphics card. The same goes for networking. That said, I have had good experiences
with my NEC Versa and docking station. The NEC had internal linear frame buffer graphics
which makes the display pretty responsive for a 486SL 33 MHz laptop. Networking works
fine with the docking station and the occasional benign boot bugs have supposedly been
fixed in 3.2. Save your money and don't buy the color for four reasons:
0) You only get 2-bit grayscale graphics in VGA mode anyway.
1) Costs more
2) Weighs more
3) Consumes more power
4) Consumes more memory
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles
V: 310.371.6226
F: 310.371.0886
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From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: NS and Pentium ?
Message-ID: <CGD2BM.27q@alembicla.com>
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <CGB590.EG7@zcias2.ziff.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 04:11:45 GMT
In article <CGB590.EG7@zcias2.ziff.com> qsafi@qsafi (Quabidur R. Safi) writes:
!> I was wondering has anybody tried installing NS/FIP on a Pentium machine ?
!>
Yup!
Works great, runs faster.
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles
V: 310.371.6226
F: 310.371.0886
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: Ultralite Versa?
Message-ID: <CGD6Aq.2Hp@alembicla.com>
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <cgsFOl_00iUz06A=hE@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 05:37:37 GMT
In article <cgsFOl_00iUz06A=hE@andrew.cmu.edu> Brian J Haythorn <bh2d+@andrew.cmu.edu>
writes:
!> I am interested in buying a Versa, does anyone out there know how
!> compatible it is w/ NeXTstep? It has 12 megs of ram, a 180 meg HD, a 25
!> Mhz 486sl proc., and 640*480 graphics with 256 colors. It has no
!> docking station, and therefore no slots, but it comes with a paralell
!> port ethernet adapter made bu Xircom. Any help appreciated.
I have exactly the same machine except monochrome display. It works well. I also have a
docking station and ethernet and SCSI adapter inside it. NS3.1 was a little tricky to
install but I suspect 3.2 will go down easier. If you want more info email or call.
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles
V: 310.371.6226
F: 310.371.0886
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: Intel GX sources
Message-ID: <CGD90G.2ts@alembicla.com>
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <2bu1ch$8d6@crl.crl.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 06:36:15 GMT
In article <2bu1ch$8d6@crl.crl.com> mcgredo@crl.com (Donald R. McGregor) writes:
!> Does anyone have recommended vendors for the Intel GX,
!> lease or buy?
!>
I recommend Workstation 2000. They were exhibiting at NeXTWorld Expo. Contact Tim
Finnegan at 619.723.4827.
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles
V: 310.371.6226
F: 310.371.0886
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From: david@csc.technion.ac.il (David H. Lorenz)
Subject: Recycling old NeXT monitor.
Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 11:29:39 GMT
Message-ID: <david.753103779@csc>
Summary: using NeXT monitor on a PC
Sender: news@wang.com
I am working with NeXTstep 3.1 for Intel processors on a 486 machine.
Is there a way I could make use of an old next monitor?
-- David H. Lorenz (david@cs.technion.ac.il)
--
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Graduate Student, Computer Science Dept., david@TECHSEL.BITNET
Technion -- Israel Institute of Technology Tel: +972-4-29-4320
Technion City, Haifa 32000, Israel Fax: +972-4-29-4353
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sun@unity.ncsu.edu (Ying-Hsuan NMI Sun)
Subject: Will Future Domain TMC1680 work?
Message-ID: <1993Nov9.185954.11637@ncsu.edu>
Sender: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: NCSU
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 18:59:54 GMT
Our lab has just purchased a 486DX2-66 PC, and we are thinking about put
the NeXT/FIP on the machine. Configrations of the machine are:
486DX2-66 intel cpu with 265k chache.
16M RAM
Future Domain TMC1680 SCSI board.
Conner 540M SCSI HD.
Texel 3028 CD-ROM drive.
Cirrus Logic 5462 VESA-LB with 2M DRAM.
CTX 1561/LR 15" SVGA monitor.
My major concern is in the SCSI board we have. I did not find it listed in
the Hardware Compatibility list. Is it supported?
YH SUN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: u8021804@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Re: Ultralite Versa?
Message-ID: <1993Nov12.234145.18097@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
References: <cgsFOl_00iUz06A=hE@andrew.cmu.edu> <CGD6Aq.2Hp@alembicla.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 23:41:45 GMT
David W. Fahrney (dave@alembicla.com) wrote:
: In article <cgsFOl_00iUz06A=hE@andrew.cmu.edu> Brian J Haythorn <bh2d+@andrew.cmu.edu>
: writes:
: !> I am interested in buying a Versa, does anyone out there know how
: !> compatible it is w/ NeXTstep? It has 12 megs of ram, a 180 meg HD, a 25
: !> Mhz 486sl proc., and 640*480 graphics with 256 colors. It has no
: !> docking station, and therefore no slots, but it comes with a paralell
: !> port ethernet adapter made bu Xircom. Any help appreciated.
: I have exactly the same machine except monochrome display. It works well. I also have a
: docking station and ethernet and SCSI adapter inside it. NS3.1 was a little tricky to
: install but I suspect 3.2 will go down easier. If you want more info email or call.
: --
: David W. Fahrney =:-)
: Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles
: V: 310.371.6226
: F: 310.371.0886
From: vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (Vadim S. Kaplunovsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: REVIEW : 486DX2/66 VLB notebook & docking station
Date: 13 Nov 1993 04:41:30 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2c1ohq$2b4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <4grsy=600iV140vnMD@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <4grsy=600iV140vnMD@andrew.cmu.edu> Kevin Wengcheong Cheng
<kc3b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> The following review was composed for someone who intends to purchase a
> Prostar 8200. This notebook and the docking station is identical the the
> one sold by Keydata and Intelligent Notebook Systems Incorporated (INSI).
>
> I own the INSI Vesabook 486DX2/66, 16 MB ram, 340 MB HD with a
> monochrome display and the Vesastation. ( otherwise known as an
> expansion bus - this one is 200-pin ) To my knowledge, this notebook is
> local-bus for both the internal IDE drive and the internal video adapter.
>
> If there are any other questions, feel free to email me. I will try to
> answer them as best as I can.
>
> Some bits of advice... [skipped for brevity]
As far as I know, INSI, Sager & Keydata are all re-sellers, not manufactures.
The Cypress Computers, who also sell the same notebook as Cypress 820 Notebook,
claim to be the manufacturers, and I have no reason to dis-believe them. The
Cypress sales-rep certainly knew more about the machine than the INSI and the
Sager reps combined. He also quoted me a lower price. FYI, Cypress Computers
are in Hayward, CA (Bay Area); their phone # is (510) 786-9106.
The reason this follow-up goes to comp.sys.next.hardware is that Cypress 820
is the only notebook I know of that can display NeXT-quality color on an
external monitor at a decent resolution. All you need is a NeXT-supported
VLB video card in the docking station.
The Future Domain SCSI controller that comes with the docking station does
not work with NS3.1 and I probably would not work with NS3.2 either, so you
would need another controller to load the NS software. According to the
Cypress rep, that's all you need to assure NS compatibility, and they would
even install the software if the customer asks for it. Cypress expects NeXT
to announce their notebook as officially supported in 3 month or so; meanwhile,
they promise full refund if the software does not work. (In comparison, all
that INSI rep could tell me about the NS on their machine is that they could
not install it and he did not know why; Sager rep did not know NS from the hole
in the ground.)
I have not bought the Cypress 820 notebook yet, but I probably will. I'm just
waiting for the NeXT to post the NS3.2 hardware compatibility guide, so I'll
know which SCSI and which video card to by.
--
**********************************************************************
Vadim S. Kaplunovsky, | #include <std_disclaimer.h>
Assistant Professor of Physics, |
University of Texas at Austin. | My English isn't THAT bad,
vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu | but my typing stinks:-(.
From: cooncat@gershwin (Jessica L. Mosher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: OD drive problem is history!
Date: 13 Nov 1993 01:32:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2c1dfi$h0g@agate.berkeley.edu>
Thanks to everyone who responded with many great suggestions on how to
deal with my optical disk drive. I tried them all, and even though I
ended up replacing the drive, I don't feel too bad as it was five years
old and had been heavily used.
Now one of the OD drives at work is sick--but thanks to everyone, I have
quite an arsenal of things to try to repair it with, and then all of Mills
will be indebted. =)
From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP on DECpc
Date: 13 Nov 1993 07:52:18 GMT
Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2c23ni$54t@tunix.cubiculum.com>
References: <1993Nov10.182427.1619@leland.Stanford.EDU>
In article <1993Nov10.182427.1619@leland.Stanford.EDU>
magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes:
> I just called DEC and asked about NEXTSTEP on their machines. According
> to the person I asked, it really doesn't run on any of their machines yet.
> Anyone know whether this is true or not?
This is NOT true. I know one DEC employee who bought himself a DEC PC and
runs NEXTSTEP on it for his own use. And it works fine.
-- Ronald
==============================================================================
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists
in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the
unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw
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From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Logic font for bus timing diagrams
Date: 13 Nov 1993 08:54:37 GMT
Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2c27cd$622@tunix.cubiculum.com>
Keywords: logic font postscript
I have a bunch of documents describing the NBIC and NeXTbus in electronic
form. Unfortunately they use for some of the timing diagrams a font called
Logic. Does anyone know where to get that font?
Any hints are very welcome!
-- Ronald
==============================================================================
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists
in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the
unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,andi.misc
From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director)
Subject: Re: Intel GX sources
Message-ID: <CGEwnJ.1xq@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Keywords: ANDI,Intel,Pro GX
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <2bu1ch$8d6@crl.crl.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 04:04:30 GMT
In article <2bu1ch$8d6@crl.crl.com> mcgredo@crl.com (Donald R.
McGregor) writes:
> Does anyone have recommended vendors for the Intel GX,
> lease or buy?
>
> --
> Don McGregor | World's most dangerous USENET poster
> mcgredo@crl.com |
Don:
ANDI is in the process of negotiating a special "mass purchase" price
for the "new" Pro GX that supports 1120x830. We will post here when
we have a satifactory deal set up. Expect it the week after next
since next week is COMDEX.
---
Bill Strehl
Executive Director
ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc.
reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org
"Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mane@simplework.octagon.de (Mane Wuehr)
Subject: Re: NeXT LP squeeks during printing
Message-ID: <1993Nov12.102337.7120@simplework.octagon.de>
Organization: SimpleWork Software GmbH
References: <2br84r$k03@cofc20.cs.cofc.edu> <2brbur$kg@genesis.ait.psu.edu>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 10:23:37 GMT
mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) writes:
>In article <2br84r$k03@cofc20.cs.cofc.edu> kunkle@harry.cofc.edu (Tom
>Kunkle) writes:
>> My Next Laser printer squeeks badly while
>> paper is running through, like some moving
>> part needs oil.
>[...]
>My printer has also just started displaying this behavior so I too am
>interested in the cure. I can't figure out the location by listening.
>[...]
could this be a general problem of the LPs - mine also is squeeking!
--
Manfred W"uhr - mane@simplework.octagon.de
From: f91el@efd.lth.se (Erik Lindahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can I use a NEC 38 CD-player with NS/FIP?
Date: 13 Nov 1993 16:17:29 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Message-ID: <2c31ap$hji@nic.lth.se>
The subject says it,
Is it possible to use a NEC CDR-38 CD-player with NS/FIP?
(It´s got a SCSI connector.)
Erik Lindahl
f91el@efd.lth.se
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP
Date: 13 Nov 1993 20:54:33 GMT
Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX
Message-ID: <2c3hi9$jis@inxs.concert.net>
References: <23382@news.duke.edu> <1993Nov10.145440.6325@afs.com> <rawyattCGADDv.Es9@netcom.com>
Also, for what it's worth...my Data General rep informed me that WordPerfect
Corporation is paid by Data General to keep the product current on it's
proprietary platform.
While most well-entrenched NeXTSTEP users believe that WordPerfect's
Departure from support of the platform is not a big deal, resellers and
those trying to get the platform into larger DOS/Windows or Macintosh-based
companies will find their efforts will not have just doubled. WordPerfect
is a name that users of all platforms recognize while we who introduce
NeXTSTEP to new potential users still get - NEC???
WordPerfect has not kept up with the feature set found in the DOS/WINDOWS/
MAC environments (tabling to name just one), however it did work and with
the exception of mainly that one feature, cross-platform compatibility
was there.
In closing, the WordPerfect development team had assured me and most
everybody who cared at NeXTworld, that there would be a 6.0, not just a
FAT version of 1.0.1.
Doesn't anybody find it strange that we hear nothing out of NeXT about
this?
Dave
--
Advanced Business Systems 919.682.8553
19 Joci Court [fax] 919.682.1126
Durham, North Carolina 27704 briggman@rock.concert.net
A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller Hardware, Software and Peripherals
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP on DECpc
Date: 13 Nov 1993 21:08:34 GMT
Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX
Message-ID: <2c3ici$jpl@inxs.concert.net>
References: <1993Nov10.182427.1619@leland.Stanford.EDU> <2c23ni$54t@tunix.cubiculum.com>
If anyone needs info on the DIGITAL CPUs which are certified to run NSFIP,
please email me, I have literature which can be emailed to you.
The systems are the MTE and MTEd2.
Dave
--
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19 Joci Court [fax] 919.682.1126
Durham, North Carolina 27704 briggman@rock.concert.net
A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller Hardware, Software and Peripherals
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Does NS/I support 21 MB "flopticals"
Date: 13 Nov 1993 21:37:14 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2c3k2a$klc@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi,
Does anyone know if NS/I supports 21 MB floptical drives like the
Iomega? NeXT doesn't know about them, but suggested that they might
work since they are SCSI based removable media. I recall that these drives
worked on black hardware, just I'd like to verify that it works on
white before I purchase one. Thanks, Ross.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris Wong)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <CGG8yG.BAs@news.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
References: <23382@news.duke.edu> <1993Nov10.145440.6325@afs.com> <rawyattCGADDv.Es9@netcom.com> <2c3hi9$jis@inxs.concert.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 21:27:51 GMT
In article <2c3hi9$jis@inxs.concert.net> briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account) writes:
>In closing, the WordPerfect development team had assured me and most
>everybody who cared at NeXTworld, that there would be a 6.0, not just a
>FAT version of 1.0.1.
I wouldn't trust a dishonor company who didn't keep its promise. If
WP promised to ship WP 6.0 for NeXTSTEP, it should keep its promise.
I guess WP is gonna lose its credit.
>Doesn't anybody find it strange that we hear nothing out of NeXT about
>this?
What can NeXT do about this? Pay WP to release WP6? NeXT would
rather save the money for marketing...
>Dave
>--
>Advanced Business Systems 919.682.8553
>19 Joci Court [fax] 919.682.1126
>Durham, North Carolina 27704 briggman@rock.concert.net
>A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller Hardware, Software and Peripherals
--
Chris Wong | "Hardware is supposed to serve Software."
chris@iastate.edu | Computer Engineering & Computer Science
twba8@isuvax.iastate.edu | Iowa State University of Science and Technology
From: wuj9@ac.wfu.edu (joe wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: disktab for Tahoe/Pinnacle MO drive
Date: 13 Nov 1993 23:20:13 GMT
Organization: Wake Forest University
Message-ID: <2c3q3d$536@quad.wfunet.wfu.edu>
I will be receiving the MO drive soon. Does anyone have the disktab info
for this drive? Please email directly to me. Thank you.
--
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Subject: voice mail, fax on Next (summary of replies)
Message-ID: <2CE48ECC.19530@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 13 Nov 93 07:37:48 GMT
In comp.soft-sys.nextstep article <1993Nov12.180835.860@ideal.muc.de> I
wrote:
> In article <2CDFE78F.19988@news.service.uci.edu> feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu
(Feng Liu) writes:
>> Hello, friends. I have the following question.
> If I get a fax modem, is it possible to make my next 040 slab work
> as an answering machine and send and receive fax?
> I understand it can send and receive fax, but is it possible for >it
> to distinguish fax from voice and receive or turn on an answering
machine
> function accordingly?
> If the answer is yes,
> (1) what kind of modem is needed?
> Anything like the Intel Satisfaction Fax modem will work?
> (2) What software do we need?
>
Thanks to everyone(many replied) who replied to my question.
There are DFax and NXFax, etc, but
to do everything that I mentioned above (answer machine and fax), the only
complete product is
mix by i-link distributed in the US by alembic based in Colorado.
Here I will forward a reply by Dana Shdrick, hope it is helpful to those
who also seek the same info.
Feng,
In addition to the message below I think there was an article in Nextworld
in Sept or Oct.
Good Luck
Dana
Begin forwarded message:
>From: "Tyler M. Janisch" Date: Tue, 7 Sep 93 19:04:45 -0600
To: Dana Shadrick <dana@applied.com>
Subject: Re: MIX (Multimedia Information Exchange)
Sorry for the delayed response... with all the requests for add'l info
beyond what was in the release, it tooks some time to assemble as much
info as we had. I hope that this covers everyones' queries.
-tmj
W h a t i s m i x ?
m i x is a telephone, modem, fax machine and voice mail system running
in software on the Digital Signal Processor that is built into every NeXT
computer. This revolutionary concept removes the need for the larger part
of the hardware of these conventional machines and lets you enter a new
dimension of flexibility:
New telecommunication services or data transfer protocols usually makes
existing hardware obsolete, m i x - as a flexible software machine -
just needs a software update to integrate those new services. The small
m i x hardware is compatible to the future.
Using the DSP port, m i x does not block the serial ports of the NeXT
computer as conventional fax modems do, yet incorporates a much higher
level of functionality. Combining an integrated telecommunications
machine with a powerful personal workstation leads to countless new
possibilities:
m i x can store incoming calls to you later at another number
forwarding the messages. A multimedia notebook is shared between and
integrated into all m i x services. Complex functions can be used with
a simple, consistent user interface. m i x ensures a professional
quality of your telecommunications.
Today an increasing number of people cannot think of working without
electronic mail anymore. They can communicate information instantly
without having to wait for a direct phone call. Incoming e-mail, on the
other hand, can be answered thoroughly without the need to react instantly
during a short telephone call.
The NeXT computers are shipped with one of the most comfortable email
systems. NeXTmail lets you send and receive arbitrary data like text
graphics, photographs, voice, music, programs, files or folders. In fact,
everything that you can process on a multimedia workstation can be
incorporated into a NeXTmail.
NeXTmail receives and sends primarily across the ethernet to other NeXT or
Unix computers connected to the local network. Up to now modem
connections to the local network required Unix specific knowledge.
Not only does m i x provide an integration of, fax, telephone and
answering machine, it also supplies an easy way to exchange NeXTmail
across a regular phone line.
In this way m i x opens up a new possibilities for worldwide
communication. m i x incidentally stands for "multimedia information
exchange" Due to it's complete integration of different telecommunication
services m i x lets you use the diverse functionality of these
services more productively and more effectively.
m i x expands the features of NeXTmail by including received fax pages
and messages from the answering machine in the mailbox (the place where
e-mails are received). One look into the mailbox suffices to scan all the
received messages.
The complete integration of e-mail, phone, answering machine, and fax
makes it possible to incorporate a multimedia notebook for the whole
telecommunication, where information can be quickly filed and retrieved.
This notebook can be the basis of a timesaving automation of diverse
office activities.
m i x presents itself to the people you communicate with as a
multi-functional and professional system that impresses and arouses
curiosity.
m i x f e a t u r e s
- Digital storage of announcement and incoming messages
- Remote message control and remote programming of m i x
m i x i n n o v a t i o n s
- Sort announcements that are selected depending on the time of day, date
presence of receiver...etc.
- Messages can be easily incorporated into the multimedia
telecommunications notebook.
- m i x can easily start an interactive dialogue with the caller.
- Incoming calls are automatically switched to the telephone services, fax
or modem
m i x c o m f o r t
- Automated dial functions
- Easy user interface without cryptic key-codes for special functions.
- Use the built in microphone and speaker to telephone, fax or modem
m i x q u a l i t y
Sending NeXT multimedia mail over the phone line is as easy as using the
local network.
m i x p r o t o c o l s
- Data transfer rates up to 2400bps full duplex.
- Supports the CCITT V.21, v.22, V.22bis, and Bell 103/212A standards.
- Supports the industrial standard AT command set.
m i x v e r s i t i l i t y
- Expandable modem functionality with software upgrades
- Multimedia mail can be transmitted with up to 9600bps using a half
duplex protocol.
- Incoming calls are automatically switched to modem, fax or telephone.
- Postscript quality faxes.
- Incoming faxes captured at 200dpi.
- Fax sending from within any application via the fax/print panel.
- Sending and receiving fax with high speed of 9600bps.
m i x i n t e g r a t i o n
- m i x fax works within network environments.
- Stored faxes can be shared within many kinds of documents.
- Incoming faxes can be processed with Optical Character Recognition
software.
m i x f o r i n t e l m a c h i n e s
Requires i56 card from i-link; i56 will be released soon after the release
of NS 3.2.
--- High Performance DSP System ---
i56 is a low cost, complete DSP and audio system for NS PCs based on the
DSP56001, Motorola's fast 56/24 bit DSP chip. i56 utilizes a high-speed
(33 MHz) version of the DSP56001, the advanced architecture of which and
the 56-bit accumulator make it ideal for audio and music application.
This processor has been designed to maximize throughput in data intensive
digital signal processor applications. Data is naturally partitioned into
two separate memory spaces for graphics and image-processing applications,
into coefficient and data spaces for filtering applications, and into real
and imaginary spaces for performing complex arithmetic. i56 uses a NeXT
compatible memory model: off-chip memory exists in two "images". This
feature allow the efficient storage of the program and vector or scalar
operands. It also keeps i56 compatible with existing software for the
NeXT computer, like the SoundKit, MusicKit, and the Array Processing
Functions.
--- Analog and NeXT Compatible Digital I/O ---
i56 provides digital input/output via the NeXT compatible DSP port, which
allows your PC to interface with many existing DSP peripherals. A
standard 2.048 MHz clock can be enabled by software for the SSI and/or SCI
serial interfaces. i56 also provides analog I/O with 15 bit data at 8 kHz
sample rate. On the back of the DSP card are sound inputs and outputs: a
microphone input (mini-jack) and a stereo headphone output (mini-jack).
--- Software Support ---
i-link develops the DSP and SoundDriver software interface for i56. This
enables most existing NS DSP software to run on i56-equipped NS PCs, for
example all NS audio functions.
--- i56 Specifications ---
- 33 MHz DSP56001. 16.5 MIPS peak throughput
- 56 bit ALU for 336 dB
- 24 Kbytes fast program/data RAM
- power: 5V, 0.5 A
- PC interface: 8 I/O ports set to any I/O address
- serial digital I/O via NeXT compatible port
- 15 bit analog I/O up to 8 kHz
- uses one 'short' PC slot
- contact your Motorola sales office for complete DSP56001 specifications
-specifications subject to change -
P r i c e s
Retail Edu.
Apps
Call 380.00 323.00
Fax 380.00 323.00
Data 200.00 170.00
Mix Motorola
Box+Call 565.00 463.00
Box+Call+Fax 761.00 625.00
Box+Call+Fax+Data 865.00 710.00
Mix Intel
Box+Call 813.00 667.00
Box+Call+Fax 1009.00 829.00
Box+Call+Fax+Data 1113.00 914.00
Objects
Touch tone input on/off 150.00 128.00
Touch tone code entry 150.00 128.00
Automatic call+replay 220.00 187.00
Send selected fax 220.00 187.00
Program Control 380.00 323.00
Plus Pak 750.00 638.00
i56 with DSP & Snddrvr 414.00 352.00
direct 179.00 152.00
ticc 249.00 212.00
nice 119.00 101.00
Tyler M. Janisch
Sales Exec - ASIL
14 Inverness Drive East, Suite G-228
Englewood, CO 80112
(tyler@alembic.com) NeXTMail welcomed.
303-799-6223
303-799-1435 Fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: HSD Scanners SCSI Termination
Message-ID: <CGFy17.E9@alembicla.com>
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <9311121617.AA28139@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de>
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 17:31:54 GMT
In article <9311121617.AA28139@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de> gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
writes:
!> David W. Fahrney wrote:
!>
!> > I have seen several HSD (a.k.a. UMAX) scanners in use
!> > without the external SCSI terminator that is supplied
!> > with the unit. I some cases the user did not know any
!> > better. In others they said, "It doesn't work with
!> > the terminator and it does work without it." I have
!> > talked to HSD, UMAX and taken my scanner apart and all
!> > three sources concur: there is no internal termination.
!>
!> >
!> >What gives?
!>
!> Too bad, you didn't tell us, wether the scanners are used on black or
!> white hardware. From the symptoms i assume white.
!>
Sorry I omitted the fact that I am talking about BLACK hardware. Thanks for the long
note about controller termination, etc. But that's not the problem. I am very well
versed in SCSI termination, I just don't understand the practical dichotomy described
above.
I confess not to understand one thing: How does a NeXTstation switch in and out the
internal controller termination when you add an external device as there are no physical
resistor networks to remove and no software options that I am aware of to turn it on or
off?
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles
V: 310.371.6226
F: 310.371.0886
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: MIDI cable Pinout Questions...
Date: 14 Nov 1993 03:45:07 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2c49k3$5sk@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Hello. Someone posted here the other day a bried diagram for building a cable
to work with the Opcode Midi Translator interface and an '040 NeXT. I built a
cable using the diagram and it does indeed work for two way communications (I
am using an old Apple single in, single out interface). The only problem is
when I try to use it with either Presto or Ensemble I get dozens of "MIDI
driver hardware framing error" messages in console. My devices are receiving
data but with Ensemble I get no actual notes. With Presto I do get the notes
but there are so many of the above errors that they are severely delayed.
What's a hardware framing error? Did I wire my cable wrong? Is there any hope?
Should I go ahead and buy a mac to do my MIDI work on? Ya'know, I'd like to
think that I could use my NeXT for MIDI as well and easily as I can use a Mac
(which I used to own) but it seems that MIDI composition is a small market in
NeXT's small market. It's a shame I don't have years to waste or I would write
my own sequencer.
Do I sound a bit irate? Yes, I am. I have $15,000 worth of computer on my desk
and I could do my work better on a $1500 Macintosh because it has the quality
tools and mine doesn't.
From: caw8@po.CWRU.Edu (Craig A. White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anyone know reputation of Zenon's SCSI-2 systems?
Date: 14 Nov 1993 05:09:25 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2c4ei5$744@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
I'm thinking about buying a SCSI-2 486 based system from Zenon. Does any-
one know of their reputation? I haven't seen any of their systems rated,
but they have 2-4 page adds in Computer Shopper and Windows magazines and
their systems sound pretty good. Is there anything that I should be watch-
ing for in a SCSI system? Any info on SCSI or Zenon would be greatly
appreciated.
-Craig
--
From: caw8@po.CWRU.Edu (Craig A. White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Postscript Laser printers?
Date: 14 Nov 1993 05:11:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2c4em7$74v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
What are the advantages of postscript printers? Are they worth the difference iin price?
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos)
Subject: Re: Summary Re: NEXTSTEP on DECpc
Message-ID: <1993Nov12.084742.633@marcon.ka.sub.org>
Sender: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos)
Organization: Marinos EDV - Consulting
References: <1993Nov10.203129.6712@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 08:47:42 GMT
In article <1993Nov10.203129.6712@leland.Stanford.EDU>
magnus@fisher.Stanford.EDU (Magnus Nordborg) writes:
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\\ I quickly received affirmative answers that NEXTSTEP *does* run on DECpc,
\\ and well. One DEC employee acknowledged that the company has been a bit
\\ slow on this, and suggested that the situation might improve towards the
\\ end of the year. Thanks to all that responded.
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I can say, that this is wrong for the DECpc 486d2 mte. This machine is EISA/VLB
and just flyes.
The modell was tested in the following configuration:
40 MB Ram
Adpatec 1542C
Intel EtherExpress 16
Pro Audio 16
ATI Ultra Pro VLB 2MB VRAM
optional miro crystal 32s VLB 4MB VRAM
Onboard S3 928 was not tested, because DEC couldn't deliver VRAM for it.
This configuration was the fastest NEXTSTEP machine (based on 486) I saw.
Espacially the video performance was very high. Faster than a Turbo Color.
Other machines were tested with the same amount of RAM. I don't know why, but
the board has to be designed very well. We did not test the ISA/VLB machine.
The absolute highlight was the miro crystal 32s graphics adapter. With 3.1 you
get resolutions until 1408x1024x16bit in very good performance. In 3.2 you get
additionally 1024x768x32bit. With the miro driver update you get also
1152x820x32bit.
But to enjoy those resolutions, which are all provided with over 72Hz, you need
a very good, at least 20" Monitor.(Money, Money, Money,....)
Also NSFIP runs very fine on the Intel Pentium/PCI OEM-board
Stati
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From: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos)
Subject: NSFIP does not recognize DOS Partition
Message-ID: <1993Nov12.122536.824@marcon.ka.sub.org>
Sender: emarinos@marcon.ka.sub.org (Evstathios Marinos)
Organization: Marinos EDV - Consulting
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1993 12:25:36 GMT
Hi,
I have a problem with NSFIP when I boot from OS/2 Bootmanager. In this case no
DOS partitions are recognized, everything else works right.
If I boot with NS bootmanager, the DOS partitions are recognized.
Does anybody know a solution or had the same problem?
Thanks for help.
Stathis
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From: kafkouli@fiu.edu (George Kafkoulis)
Subject: Questions about DEC MTE 466/d2. HELP!
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Distribution: USA
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 18:29:45 GMT
Message-ID: <CGHvDM.DBq@fiu.edu>
Keywords: DEC MTE
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Hi all
If someone can answer any of the following questions
please send me an e-mail at kafkouli@fiu.edu.
What SCSI controllers work well with DEC 466/d2 MTE?
Are they any cards or SCSI drivers we should avoid?
If you are using this DEC system, please send me the
hardware configuration.
Is the DEC monitor good? We want to get the S3 928
system with 4MB. I think that the S3 Driver supports
1280x1024 at 60Hz. Is this the only refresh rate supported.
Isn't 60Hz too low? I do not want my students to get
headaches. Any anecdotal information will be helpful.
Can someone compare the DEC 17" VCR16-CA monitor(FR-PCXAV-EA)
with the MAG 17"F(1280x1024@60Hz) or the
NEC 5FG(1280X1024@74 Hz) or the Nanao(1280X1024@????).
Does the higher refresh rate at the maximum resolution
make any diffrence if the driver supports only 60Hz?
That is all :-)
Thanks in advance
George Kafkoulis
FIU
Department of Mathematics
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: NeXT Toshiba Monitor
Date: 14 Nov 1993 08:06:46 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2c4oum$6in@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <1993Nov9.192846.16077@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <CG99B3.D28@tdocad.sps.mot.com>
Bcc: mitroo
In article <CG99B3.D28@tdocad.sps.mot.com> mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler) writes:
>*** Mark Lin *** writes
>
>
> Where can I buy the Black NeXT/Toshiba multisynch 21" monitor?
>
> How much does it cost? and the viewable area of the monitor?
>
> I want to use with my Intel mechine ...
>
>
>Toshiba? My 21" here at work is a Hitachi OEM...
>As I recall it's retail price (during the Hardware Years) was in the neighborhood of $3500. It's viewable area is huge. Compatibility, however, is a question. I've heard that only Dell machines work with NeXT monitors. Check the compatibility guide at ftp.next.com.
>
I have one of the NeXT 21" Hitachi monitors for sale.
It is in great condition, barely used out of the box, still under warranty
from Bell Atlantic.
Please e-mail with offers. Any reasonable prices considered.
Varun
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From: dbhinz@znih.rmnug.org (David Hinz)
Subject: Which CD-ROM player is best
Message-ID: <1993Nov13.222326.6303@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Keywords: CD-ROM
Sender: dbhinz@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Hz Consulting
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 22:23:26 GMT
Planning on buying a cd-rom player soon! I currently have a NeXTstation Turbo
Color and want to get a player that has a mid-range price with the following
features:
Photo-CD compatible
Compatible with NeXT cd-player audio app
fast, double or triple speed
Any other features to make the cd-player the best for my money for my
slab, but also will be possible to connect to a 486 system (I hope to buy one
soon).
Send suggestions and I will summarize and post.
Thanks,
David Hinz.
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From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: Anyone know reputation of Zenon's SCSI-2 systems?
Message-ID: <CGHysv.9Cy@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <2c4ei5$744@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 19:43:43 GMT
In article <2c4ei5$744@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> caw8@po.CWRU.Edu (Craig A. White) writes:
>
>I'm thinking about buying a SCSI-2 486 based system from Zenon. Does any-
>one know of their reputation? I haven't seen any of their systems rated,
>but they have 2-4 page adds in Computer Shopper and Windows magazines and
>their systems sound pretty good. Is there anything that I should be watch-
>ing for in a SCSI system? Any info on SCSI or Zenon would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>
> -Craig
>--
Watch out!
We could not get NSFIP to run on Zenon!
Zenon told us, no problem our systems can run NSFIP, but they did not.
My colleague and I bought 2 systems for NSFIP from ZENON in August.
The systems looked very good on paper, and they are good price performers:
but we could not get NSFIP to load at all. After several days of trying,
and finally removing all but the minimum NS configuration, we determined
that the Keyboard/Motherboard combo could not be made to work and shipped
the systems back.
If you are talking about the system in the Z-Dream ads, note that their
underlying memory performance is not that good unless you pay for their
better motherboard. If you are extremely brave, and know much more about
low level PC hardware than we do, you may be able to configure a system
from them. If you still want to try Zenon, get them to prove that they
can run NSFIP by giving you some names/numbers of folk who are doing
so. I don't think there are any installed systems. Though they were
good about the return policy, and we were only out for shipping both ways,
I would not recommend the risk.
We ended up buying systems from Advance 2000. They have excellent
service, and are very knowedgeable. I had a minor problem with my
system, more aesthetic than functional, and they shipped replacement
equipment to me next day air at no charge. We also found that our
systems were only cranking out about 36 VAX MIPS when first set up.
A techie there apologized, and stepped us through the CMOS setup,
we now get 41 MIPS.
Although I probably could have gotten a sound-card, with an equivalent
performing system from another vendor (at the same price), I probably
would have had down-time and would not have had the benefit of such
good support (most companies would have required me to ship my
board to them before they would ship one to me).
My system cost about $500 more than the one from Zenon that didn't work.
Differences were that I dropped the sound card (decided to wait on better
sound support than pro-audio 16) and an internal CDROM, but doubled the
size of disk to 1GB and upgraded from a MAG to a Nanao Monitor.
The real joy was that on proof of purchase, Advance installed NextStep
and burned everything in for a couple of days.
My advice is to either go with an integrator like Advance200 (or
someone like them who do a lot of NS business), or go with a vendor
whose components and motherboards are known to work out of the box.
You'll save yourself a lot of headaches, and return fees.
Hope this helps.
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From: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Q: Experience with internal GB disks (black h.)?
Date: 14 Nov 1993 20:18:24 GMT
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Keywords: black hardware, internal GB disk
Hi,
I consider buying an internal GB disk for my old, trusty NeXTstation.
Has anyone experienced trouble with disks of that size (maybe, even
1.5GB)?
If not, which disks could you recommend me?
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From: thor@sushi.uib.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Q: Experience with internal GB disks (black h.)?
Date: 14 Nov 1993 21:27:40 GMT
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Distribution: world
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References: <2c63qg$l9q@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
In article <2c63qg$l9q@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I consider buying an internal GB disk for my old, trusty NeXTstation.
> Has anyone experienced trouble with disks of that size (maybe, even
> 1.5GB)?
>
> If not, which disks could you recommend me?
>
> Frank
>
No trouble at all. I've had a 330 Wren, and currently have a 1Gig
HP. It works great. A little noisy, but not so bad. Since you
have a station you'll need a half height drive, but that shouldn't
be a problem. If you're not handy with writing disktabs and
creating filesystems "the old way", NS will easily create 2 (sorry,
only 2 supported) partitions for you.
Good luck.
Regards,
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From: scotth@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Henson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Best way to connect PostScript printer to NeXT
Date: 15 Nov 1993 04:37:17 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2c711t$cug@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Summary: Can anyone offer suggestions about the following?
Keywords: postscript
I would like to connect a PostScript laser printer (HP LaserJet IV or an
Apple LaserWriter) to a NeXT system. As the printer is to be used for Macs
as well, it will probably be configured for an EtherTalk network. The
question then is how to connect the same printer to a NeXT system.
Specific questions are:
1. What is the default printer port and mode on the NeXT?
(Example: Serial port, PostScript)
2. Can the NeXT support EtherTalk? If so, how?
3. The printers all have both serial and parallel ports. Could I connect
the printer to the NeXT via the serial port? How would the NeXT need
to be configured?
4. Can the default output of the NeXT be directed to a printer via lpr?
Thanks.
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From: xturetsk@cs.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky)
Subject: What's a good motherboard for NS/iP?
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.060619.7699@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 06:06:19 GMT
I'm going to need to upgrade my 386DX/33 to run NS/iP, and I was wondering
if anyone had any suggestions (pro or con) about the brands of boards out
there?
I'm not sure whether I'll go EISA and VESA or just VESA, so send info on
both (suggestions on which to choose are also welcome).
You can post or mail me -- I'll summarize if it's called for -- thanks in
advance.
Lenny
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From: swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu (Matthew Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help!: frequent OD read and write "re-spins"
Date: 15 Nov 93 02:37:36
Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <SWIFT.93Nov15023736@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
running 3.0 on NeXT cube, 25mhz '040. optical disk, 333M hard drive,
internally; next CD-ROM and a DIT CubeFlopppy 2.9 on the SCSI chain.
Standalone.
When my optical drive runs, I get frequent spin-down spin-ups which log
themselves to the console like this:
od0?: write re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 246880 phys block 246880 (19579:0:0)
od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 215480 phys block 217912 (17768:0:8)
Since a re-spin takes fifteen seconds, and the drive, when misbehaving, only
reads or writes for 2-3 seconds between spindowns, and everything frequently
freezes during a re-spin, this behavior can render the machine virtually
useless.
I use three optical disks, and the problem occurs with all of them.
Sometimes it is the case that whenever a file is accessed from emacs, it spins
down, or whenever the disk is first inserted. But at other times there seems
to be no problem, with minutes of access. Perhaps the problem arises most
frequently during heavy use, or when several processes are all accessing the
disk, or when many files are accessed in rapid succession, but I can't isolate
any circumstances at all.
For example, usually (but not always) the problem is constant during a "make";
it has re-spinned 5 times during a single "pwd" command from csh.
Is my drive fritzed, or what's going on? Advice would be most appreciated.
Matthew Swift
PS A problem which might be related is that 9 times out of ten, the Workspace
Manager will refuse to eject any disk (floppy, optical, CD), by not allowing
you to choose the option. The only way to get them out is to log out or do it
manually from the shell. I tried the FixDiskEject.demon from next.com, but it
only seemed to mess up the automount process, so I got rid of it.
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From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe)
Subject: 030 sensing
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.074536.17878@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 07:45:36 GMT
Does anyone know how you can programatically determine whether a machine is
an 030 NeXT machine?
Also, I wrote a one-page program that is supposed to sense how much
DSP SRAM memory is installed. It works fine on 040 machines. But
I've had a report that the program returns an incorrect value when run
on 030 machines. I don't have an 030 machine to test it on. If
there's anyone out there who has an 030 machine and wouldn't mind
running this program for me, please get in touch with me. I'll send
you the program, ask you to run it, and send me the results.
Please send your response to:
david@jaffe.com.
Thanks!
David Jaffe
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From: se10@mahler.cefriel.it (Fabiano Cattaneo)
Subject: WD8003 driver for NeXTstep 3.1
Organization: C.d.C-Politecnico di Milano
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 16:30:15 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.163015.5637@cdc486.cdc.polimi.it>
Sender: netnews@cdc486.cdc.polimi.it (NetNews)
Is there (anybody working on) a WD8003 driver for NeXTStep 3.1 running on Intel platforms?
Please answer by e-mail.
From: pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/IP and ZyXEL Modems
Date: 15 Nov 1993 14:10:50 GMT
Organization: Gemeinde Wien MD-ADV/Ma; A-1010 Wien; Austria
Message-ID: <PFP.93Nov15151050@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at>
Has anyone experience in faxing from NS/IP with a ZyXEL modem?
Are there products floating around, or is there support in 3.2?
Thanks
peter
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From: shukin@duke.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/IP and ZyXEL Modems
Date: 15 Nov 1993 15:12:13 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <2c868d$6nm@tribune.usask.ca>
References: <PFP.93Nov15151050@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at>
Peter Pflaeging (pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at) wrote:
: Has anyone experience in faxing from NS/IP with a ZyXEL modem?
: Are there products floating around, or is there support in 3.2?
I too would like to know if there are any users of Zyxel Modem and NS/FIP
out there. Please post or mail
Thanks
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From: burkart@iwf.mabp.ethz.ch (Burkart Martin)
Subject: intel: Adaptec 2742
Message-ID: <burkart.753376311@fi01>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 15:11:51 GMT
Hello!
Unfortunately the adaptec 174x is not any more built. Adaptec has now a
new SCSI-card called adaptec 274x. Can I run NS 3.2 with this card and
the announced SCSI-Driver for the 174x? Are these cards more or less
100% hardware compatible?
cu
-martin
ps: sorry for my bad english :)
From: sav3@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 3.2? Where are you?
Date: 15 Nov 1993 16:02:37 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2c896t$gbi@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Summary: Where is it?
Things have been very silent about 3.2. They announced it's coming release
about 3 weeks ago, and there's been nothing since. Any news?
Sean
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Q: dual-headed NeXT / NeXTdimension?
Message-ID: <CGFvnn.15K@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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References: <1993Nov11.002759.29865@cs.wisc.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 16:40:35 GMT
In article <1993Nov11.002759.29865@cs.wisc.edu> bestor@caracal.cs.wisc.edu
(Gareth Bestor) writes:
#This is directed at all you NeXTdimension users out there. What is the
#scoop about having a dual-headed cube with 2 monitors? Do you get two views
#of the same workspace or are they non-overlapping, like a Mac?
Non overlapping like a Mac. You get to chose where the screens are placed.
That is you chose whether the clor is left, right, above, below the mono
screen.
#
#Now for the hard one - would it be possible to have a dual headed cube with an
#040 and 030 board? What I want is to get two different displays out of my
Not sure what yopu mean. Would it be possible to have 2 monitors
hooked up when you have an '040 and an '030 board in the same cube?
I don't know if the power supply can handle it. Also how will you
control the stuff on the second screen?
#NeXT (no, not two displays of the same thing). I'm toying with the idea of
#hooking this up to two LCD screens (somehow) for a head mounted display.
#Would this require _TWO_ NeXTdimension boards? Is that even possible -
ignoring
#for the moment that I am a broke graduate student :)
Two NDs will work in a single cube. You would need to find two flat panel
(LCD) displays that support the resolution. You could get two of the small
TV type LCDs and output the video of the screen to those. You would need to
NDs though.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard cable extension?
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Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 02:23:52 GMT
In article <CGBGMC.3AL@tdocad.sps.mot.com> mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael
Shaler) writes:
#I love my slab, but I wish it wouldn't sit so close to me...
#
#Is there a cable M-F that can give me a few few from the sound box to the
keyboard?
You should be able to take a straight through serial cable for a mack that
has a female on one end and a male on the other.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Q: dual-headed NeXT / NeXTdimension?
Message-ID: <CGHsnI.20z@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 17:30:54 GMT
In article <CGC1wn.I3C@news.cis.umn.edu> peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) writes:
#Christopher R. Douty (christov@nazgul.st.hmc.edu) wrote:
#
#: However I will second your other question. Does anyone have a clue if
#: you can have two processor boards function with a NeXTdimension? Has anyone
#: using the "screw with the backplane trick" or Sperical's EPB used a
#: NeXTdimension, or anyother NB card?
#
#I've run my "screw with the backplane trick" cube with :
#| <empty> | 32MB-ND | | 64MB-040 | 40MB-030 |
#
#without any problems. Using the od got the system warm, but never had a
#problem. The cool part was having the printer on the 030. One day I
#tried to dump an 040 into the 030 position, but I couldn't get it to boot.
#I played for a couple minutes, but put the 030 back in and went on with
#life...
Did you remove the NBIC from the '040 you tried to throw into the modified
slot? IF not that's where the problem came from.
I think it will work if one of the boards doesn't have the NBIC installed.
Kent
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From: sela@iastate.edu (Brian J Morrison)
Subject: best place to get toner for NeXT laser printer
Message-ID: <CGJK3t.JB7@news.iastate.edu>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 16:21:28 GMT
Where is the best place to get a toner cartridge for a NeXT laser printer?
Brian
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: best place to get toner for NeXT laser printer
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.174224.28373@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <CGJK3t.JB7@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 17:42:24 GMT
Brian J Morrison writes
> Where is the best place to get a toner cartridge for a NeXT laser
> printer?
Any supply store. They're standard EP-S cartridges.
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From: terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry Marrs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: new DEC XL hardware
Date: 15 Nov 1993 18:15:13 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <2c8gvh$i66@gateway.wiltel.com>
References: <2bp2fi$dhc@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
Jay P. Trimble writes
> I just got some specs on the new DEC XL hardware, and it looks
impressive:
>
> PCI, upgradeable from 486 to Pentium or Alpha using daughterboards,
built
> in SCSI-2.
>
> Under operating systems available it lists SCO, Unix, Windows,
Windows NT,
> MS-DOS and OS/2. Notice something missing?
>
> Does anyone know if NeXTstep will run on this system? We may have
to wait
> for the 3.2 hardware compatibility guide.
Attended a sales pitch with IBM the other day. To make it short, YES
and NO.
Yes, it will run on the XL with a 486 and Pentium chip. As for a
Alpha chip, I wouldn't expect it any time soon.
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From: terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry Marrs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS and Pentium ?
Date: 15 Nov 1993 18:28:44 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <2c8hos$i76@gateway.wiltel.com>
References: <CGB590.EG7@zcias2.ziff.com>
Quabidur R. Safi writes
> I was wondering has anybody tried installing NS/FIP on a Pentium
machine ?
Got it on a Compaq Pentium. Find the video is rather
disappointing(slow) but it does seem to work well other than that.
The bench marks were considerably higher than a 496(as expected). I'm
curious to see the difference between it and other Pentiums(i.e. Dec,
Epson(best video), IBM, etc...)
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From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei)
Subject: best laptops & desktops for NS 3.1+?
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.184941.832@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <1993Nov15.174224.28373@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 93 18:49:41 GMT
Who offers the best laptops and desktops _bundled_ with NS 3.1 ?
(best means >= TurboStation speed, < $5 K price range, > 2 bit grey monitor)
Sha Xin Wei
ASD, Stanford University
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 030 sensing
Date: 15 Nov 93 13:57:51
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Message-ID: <SCOTT.93Nov15135751@nic.gac.edu>
References: <1993Nov15.074536.17878@leland.Stanford.EDU>
In-reply-to: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU's message of Mon, 15 Nov 93 07:45:36 GMT
In article <1993Nov15.074536.17878@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe) writes:
>Does anyone know how you can programatically determine whether a
>machine is an 030 NeXT machine?
Don't know if this is what you want or not, but it might give you
enough to go on:
#import <mach/mach.h>
int processor( void)
{
static int p=-1;
if( p==-1) {
kern_return_t s;
struct host_basic_info i;
unsigned int c=HOST_BASIC_INFO_COUNT;
s=host_info( host_self(), HOST_BASIC_INFO, (host_info_t)&i, &c);
if( s==KERN_SUCCESS) {
switch( i.cpu_type) {
case CPU_TYPE_MC680x0 :
switch( i.cpu_subtype) {
case CPU_SUBTYPE_MC68040 : p=68040; break;
case CPU_SUBTYPE_MC68030 : p=68030; break;
case CPU_SUBTYPE_MC68030_ONLY : p=68030; break;
default : p=68000; break;
}
break;
case CPU_TYPE_I386 :
switch( i.cpu_subtype) {
default :
case CPU_SUBTYPE_386 : p=80386; break;
case CPU_SUBTYPE_486 : p=80486; break;
case CPU_SUBTYPE_486SX : p=-80486; break;
case CPU_SUBTYPE_586 : p=80586; break;
case CPU_SUBTYPE_586SX : p=-80586; break;
}
break;
default : p=0; break;
}
} else {
p=0;
}
}
return p;
}
No guarantees for how it works on odd platforms (ie, "80586", and
"SX" machines).
Later,
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From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Choice of video cards for 3.2/3.1
Date: 15 Nov 1993 14:52:54 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <2c8tnm$1qn@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
Nick here, with more annoying questions about video cards.
I'm still waiting to purchase a system for ns/fip because of the video
card question.
There are lots of cards out there that run at 1024x768x16 bit, but
I'd really like to go to 1120x832x16bit or around there. I intend to
buy a 17" monitor, and resolutions any higher will be too difficult to
use on the intended monitor (although the viewsonic 17 can handle
1280x1024 @ 72 hz i think).
First, the ATI GUP vlb card looked like the way to go, since the revision
6 cards could do 1120x832 in 16 bit. This fits inside 2 meg.
But ATI apparently stopped manufacturing these cards and went to the next
generation. They're impossible to get.
Looking though the supported cards in the 3.1 guides, the s3 looked like
a good choice, but they only ran them upto 1024x768x16 bit. They might
run higher resolutions, but not at 16 bit. Some of these s3 cards have
slower ramdacs that can't do 1120x832. Okay, fine. But some of the
cards do have faster ramdacs and can do the higher res. Case in point,
the DEC card, which takes upto 4 meg, can do better than 1120x832x 16 bit,
but strangely, it jumps. It does 1024x768x16 bit and then the next
higher res is like 1280x1024x16 bit, which takes more than 2 meg.
So, in its 2 meg state, you can't run the card at 1120x832, at least
under nextstep.
This leaves us with the winengine cards, which I really don't know anything
about.
Now comes 3.2, and some nice person from the net sends me the s3 driver
resolutions. It doesn't support 1120x832x16bit.
But it does support 1280x1024x16bit! What's wrong with 1120x832?
It seems that for an s3 card to support greater than 1024x768, you must
go to 4 meg! Why isn't there a supported resolution that comes close to
using up all that ram on the card?
I want a card that is supported at around 1120x832x16bit, at a decent
scan rate, that will work under nextstep.
Does anyone have a solution? I can't find any ati gup's anywhere.
Thanks,
Nick
ps one solution I suppose (if the whole driver for s3 is included as source)
would be to change the driver to support this intermediate res I want, but
I've never done a driver and I expect it would be hard.
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From: lucas@blkbox.COM (Lucas C. Wagner)
Subject: Use of 486SLC2 for NeXTSTEP FIP (the new 66MHz Board)
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 21:41:38 GMT
Message-ID: <CGJyxI.5q0@NeoSoft.com>
Sender: usenet@NeoSoft.com (C-news)
People have been talking about chip incompatibilities with
NS/FIP and motherboards.
So, IBM released the 66MHz 486SLC2 (I don't know how recently)
motherboard, and it sounds like a really good deal. Has anyone
used this board?
Better yet, is there such a thing as a chip incompatibility?
I mean, when Cyrix, IBM, and AMD manufacture the chips, they
should be fully compatible, and not just "kinda compatible",
right?
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Lucas
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From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Subject: Printer switching from Public to Unavailable
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.222058.14369@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 22:20:58 GMT
Hello,
I've just encountered what appears to be a random and sporadic problem
with my NeXT printer. It's attached to a 2 NeXT (black) network, and for
some reason, it will switch itself from being exported to the public (/)
domain, to being unavailable. So then I have to go into PrintManager, and
re-export it to the public domain.
I was wondering if anyone else had encountered this problem before.
As far as I can determine, there's nothing else wrong with anything else,
like NetInfo or whatnot.
Thanks alot!
Eugene Mah
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From: paul@np.com (Paul Nordstrom)
Subject: Re: NS/IP and ZyXEL Modems
Message-ID: <CGJtuI.Avq@np.com>
Organization: NP Consulting, San Francisco
References: <PFP.93Nov15151050@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 19:51:53 GMT
In article <PFP.93Nov15151050@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging) writes:
> Has anyone experience in faxing from NS/IP with a ZyXEL modem?
>
> Are there products floating around, or is there support in 3.2?
>
I am running NS/IP 3.1 and have had nearly perfect success with in- and outbound
faxes on my ZyXEL U-1496E. I also use Black & White Software's NXFax product,
which I swear by.
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(NeXTMail Appreciated)
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 18:43:06 EST
From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Message-ID: <93319.184306HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Supra 144LC /Handshaking...
I picked up a Supra FAXModem 144LC a couple of days ago. It seems
to work okay, except that when I enable hardware handshaking under
Microphone it flames out totally, taking my system with it. I assume
that the problem is that the new Mac rts cable has different pinouts
than a proper NeXTish (black hardware) one?
Does anyone know who sells proper cables for NeXTish modems? I don't
really want to hack the cable I've got on the off chance (very off)
that I ever want to hook up the modem to a quadra.
Thanks in advance,
Rob Harrap
Dept. Geological Sciences
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario
Harrap@geol.queensu.ca
From: alan@softpac.com.au (Alan Goldberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: No sound from CD player
Date: 15 Nov 1993 21:31:49 +1100
Organization: Softpac P/L, Sydney, Australia
Message-ID: <2c7lql$ge@softpac.softpac.com.au>
I have the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 configured on the ISA 486DX33,
IRQ 15 and DMA 3. The CD ROM is a Sony CDU 561 with an audio cable to the sound card.
The demo sound software works in that all the sounds are output from
the sound card, both from the system speaker and output sound port.
I tried to get the CD player working. All functions such as track
select, volume, etc, work but I don't get any sound output
from the sound card. I know all the functions work because if
I plug in the headphones to the CD player I can hear the music.
The volume changes and the track changes when selected.
Is there something I have missed?
Alan Goldberg.
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From: peter@corsica (Peter Eisch)
Subject: Re: Q: dual-headed NeXT / NeXTdimension?
Message-ID: <CGK9z6.81K@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota Hospital and Clinic, Laboratory Information Services
References: <CGC1wn.I3C@news.cis.umn.edu> <CGHsnI.20z@infoserv.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 01:35:49 GMT
kent@infoserv.com wrote:
: In article <CGC1wn.I3C@news.cis.umn.edu> peter@corsica (Peter Eisch) writes:
: #I've run my "screw with the backplane trick" cube with :
: #| <empty> | 32MB-ND | | 64MB-040 | 40MB-030 |
: #
: #without any problems. Using the od got the system warm, but never had a
: #problem. The cool part was having the printer on the 030. One day I
: #tried to dump an 040 into the 030 position, but I couldn't get it to boot.
: #I played for a couple minutes, but put the 030 back in and went on with
: #life...
: Did you remove the NBIC from the '040 you tried to throw into the modified
: slot? IF not that's where the problem came from.
:
: I think it will work if one of the boards doesn't have the NBIC installed.
No, the nbic is permanently mounted on all my 040's, I think. If I ever
get to the point where I'm really compelled to have two (or more) 040's
I'll just start cutting data traces on the backplane until it boots...
(unless there actually is a way to do it without the 'hackery'...?)
peter
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fleminmk@fe808.cc.purdue.edu (Michael K Fleming)
Subject: CD-ROM drive on a Mac
Message-ID: <fleminmk.753416346@fe808.cc.purdue.edu>
Keywords: NeXT CD-ROM driver
Sender: news@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (USENET News)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 02:19:06 GMT
I have a NeXT CD-ROM drive that I am interested on using on a Macintosh.
The problem, of course, is that I need a driver. I have searched the
archive sites, FAQs, and America Online, and have come up empty. I
have tried a NEC CD-ROM driver (the only driver I could find on the archive
sites) and it failed to work.
Please mail replies to fleminmk@feserve.cc.purdue.edu.
Mike
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From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann)
Subject: Re: NeXTStation thinks new 4MB simms are 1MB simms (HELP)
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.063847.349@kurt.in-berlin.de>
Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de
References: <1993Nov2.005552.28676@sol.UVic.CA>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 06:38:47 GMT
In article <1993Nov2.005552.28676@sol.UVic.CA> gtoews@fulford.UVic.CA
(Greg Toews) writes:
>
> My NeXTstation 040 25MHz with 8 simm slots originally came with
> 8 1MB 80ns 30pin simms. Each simm had two chips on it marked:
>
> MCM514400ANJ80
> Japan ZZZZZ9119
>
> When observing the bootup process on the ROM monitor the
> following message was always displayed.
>
> RAM speed 100ns
Don't wondering, it's ok. 25MHz-slabs doesn't recognize the speed of the
memory. It's always 100ns.
>
> I picked up 4 used 4MB 30 pin simms (100ns) and placed them in
> the four slots furthest from the power supply. Of course
> I had to take out 4 of the simms that came with the machine
> originally. These simms had 9 chips on them and they were
> marked:
>
> F 81C1000-10 (maybe they're not 4Mbit chips)
> Japan 8847 C71
>
> The back of the simms had the following:
>
> ART10382 Rev1
> copyright Prime Computer Inc.
> TES13V0
> 1889P plus some bar codes
>
> In the rom monitor I have the following set:
>
> DRAM tests yes
> sound out tests yes
> verbose yes
> boot extended no
> parity no
>
> When I press m for memory configuration I get the following message:
>
> BANKS 0-3 4MB page 0x4000000 - 0x4400000
> BANKS 4-7 4MB parity page 0x5000000 - 0x53fe000
> BANKS 8-11 none 0 - 0
> BANKS 12-15 none 0 - 0
>
> The total memory is still 8 MB with something like 6.96 MB available
>
> The machine seems to work fine, I ran two separate copies of SOFTPC
> which should use up all of the memory and everything worked fine
> and the machine boots up fine. Any Ideas????? Thanks
Look if all modules are placing correct and every pin has contact. No
other ideas in the moment :-(
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| email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome)
| voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin)
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From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann)
Subject: Re: SIMMs
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.064101.411@kurt.in-berlin.de>
Sender: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de
References: <1993Oct26.225438.7144@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 06:41:01 GMT
In article <1993Oct26.225438.7144@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>
olivierl@rb-csd.SanDiego.NCR.COM () writes:
>
> Regarding the SIMMs 1Mox9 for PCs : can I use these for my NeXT CUBE ?
>
> Same question for the 4Mo SIMMs for PCs.
>
If you have a MonoCube the answer is YES if no it's NO. Don't mix x9 SIMMs
with x8 SIMMs.
--------------------------------------------------------------
| GERALD ERDMANN
| email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome)
| voice: +49 30 372 43 10 (Germany - Berlin)
|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H. Sieglinger)
Subject: Hard drive help
Message-ID: <CGKJuB.C30@kaiwan.com>
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access (310-527-4279,714-539-0829,830-606[1 to 4] guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 05:13:22 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: burns@nova.bellcore.com (James E. Burns)
Subject: Re: Help!: frequent OD read and write "re-spins"
In-Reply-To: swift@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu's message of 15 Nov 93 02:37:36
Message-ID: <BURNS.93Nov16005504@wildcat.nova.bellcore.com>
Sender: news@walter.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communication Research
References: <SWIFT.93Nov15023736@acs3.nntp-read.bu.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 05:55:04 GMT
> When my optical drive runs, I get frequent spin-down spin-ups which log
>themselves to the console like this:
>od0?: write re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 246880 phys block 246880 (19579:0:0)
>od0a: read re-spin (invalid or unimplemented command) block 215480 phys block 217912 (17768:0:8)
I can't give you any info on the console messages -- I don't recall
seeing them when I had a similar problem -- maybe someone else can
help on that.
Since all your disks are respinning, it sounds like a drive problem.
I think there is still a cleaning kit available from Bell Atlantic,
which might help. You might also try reinitializing one of your disks
(hope you have it backed up on other media!). This fixed the single
disk that gave me respin problems. (I also had the drive cleaned.)
jim burns
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bugni@cs.washington.edu (Paul F Bugni)
Subject: Re: S3 Video Cards
Message-ID: <1993Nov16.062854.11368@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: bugni@cs.washington.edu
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 06:28:54 GMT
After finally succeeding with NSFIP installation (3.1) I'm having trouble with
a S3 86C805 LB video card made by Volante, model Warp 10 LB ver 1.10. The
S3 setting in the configuration(it only works for default VGA) is unfunctional.
Has anyone had greater success with this card or do you have any suggestions of
what I might be overlooking?
Thanks,
Paul Bugni bugni@cs.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Floppy Drive Problem
Message-ID: <cumaguna-151193080415@bartman.byuh.edu>
From: cumaguna@aclnext.byuh.edu (Andre Cumagun)
Date: 15 Nov 93 23:17:25 -0700
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Brigham Young University - Hawaii
I have recently upgraded a 486 machine running NS/Intel from 33MHz to a
66MHz. I changed the motherboard but kept all other option cards and their
settings as is. The floppy drive worked fine with the old 33 MHz board but
I couldn't get it to work with the new 66 MHz. I'm getting a "system
panic" with the following message : "invalid DMA byte count" whenever I
try using the the floppy drive -- and the only way to get out of this
situation is to reboot the machine.
The follwing are the machine's specs:
Amptron 66MHz DX2 (Eisa/Vesa) motherboard
1.7 Gig Maxtor SCSI HD
Adaptec 1542c Controller
ATI Ultra Pro VLB w/ 2MB
SMC Ethercard+ Elite 16
Serial/HD&Floppy Drive controller (Made-in-China special)
I would really appreciate if anybody could help me with this.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano)
Subject: ALR V-Q 3.2 / 3.1 installation
Message-ID: <1993Nov16.070404.29713@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 07:04:04 GMT
Hi all...
Ok, I give up for today!
The system:
ALR V-Q Pentium 66MHz / 16MBytes
DTP 2022 w/updated firmware
ATI Ultra Pro VL Bus 2Mbyte
NeXT CR-ROM (scsi id=6)
Fujistsu 1G (scsi id=0)
When trying to install 3.2 (or 3.1 for that matter) the system barfs when
trying to reset the SCSI bus for the first time (can't find SCSI
controller or CD-ROM). The drives are correctly recognized by the DPT
controller during the bios boot sequence and also within DOS on the DPT
scsi manager utility.
Anyone out there configured one of these?
-- Fernando
nando@ccrma.stanford.edu
atter) the system barfs when
trying to reset the SCSI bus for the first time (can't find SCSI
controller or CD-ROM). The drives are correctly recognized by the DPT
controller during the bios boot seq- Fernando
ter, UNDO the change when you are finished.
WHAT WAS WRONG:
the digital in to the AD64 box was directly wired in to
the output of the DAT player. That's ok if you think everybody
will always want to copy from DAT to the NeXT. But what
if the person wants to copy from a CD? Eh? I would like to
say I was really smart and the first thing I did was to check
the connections... In real life I tried connecting things
around in the patcher. DAT to NeXT: ok, so it's not the NeXT
(wrong!),
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,andi.misc
From: scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley)
Subject: Re: Intel GX sources
Message-ID: <scratch.753433933@alcor.sce.carleton.ca>
Keywords: ANDI,Intel,Pro GX
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2bu1ch$8d6@crl.crl.com> <CGEwnJ.1xq@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 07:12:13 GMT
Kevin, FYI
marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) writes:
>In article <2bu1ch$8d6@crl.crl.com> mcgredo@crl.com (Donald R.
>McGregor) writes:
>> Does anyone have recommended vendors for the Intel GX,
>> lease or buy?
>>
>> --
>> Don McGregor | World's most dangerous USENET poster
>> mcgredo@crl.com |
>Don:
>ANDI is in the process of negotiating a special "mass purchase" price
>for the "new" Pro GX that supports 1120x830. We will post here when
>we have a satifactory deal set up. Expect it the week after next
>since next week is COMDEX.
>---
>Bill Strehl
>Executive Director
>ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc.
>reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org
>"Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
--
W. Craig Scratchley | internet: scratch@sce.carleton.ca
Dept. of Systems and Computer Engineering | phone: (613) 788-5740 (Dept.)
Carleton University | (613) 241-6952 (Home)
Ottawa, ON, CANADA K1S 5B6 | fax: (613) 788-5727 (Dept.)
From: isc10033@leonis.nus.sg (Tan Chee Heng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WD8003 driver for NeXTstep 3.1
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 16 Nov 1993 07:13:32 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
Message-ID: <2c9uis$sc4@nuscc.nus.sg>
References: <1993Nov15.163015.5637@cdc486.cdc.polimi.it>
Fabiano Cattaneo (se10@mahler.cefriel.it) wrote:
: Is there (anybody working on) a WD8003 driver for NeXTStep 3.1 running on Intel platforms?
: Please answer by e-mail.
Other than the WD8013 card being 16bit, the WD8003 driver is the same. So
you can use the SMC Elite 16 driver. It has been tested fine with a few
of the WD and SMC Software configurable WD8003/SMC Elite cards.
Quite robust.
From: kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: best place to get toner for NeXT laser printer
Date: 16 Nov 1993 08:45:23 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2ca3v3$plj@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <CGJK3t.JB7@news.iastate.edu>
Brian J Morrison (sela@iastate.edu) wrote:
: Where is the best place to get a toner cartridge for a NeXT laser printer?
I'm nothing but a satisfied customer, but MEI micro will sell you
(recycled) toner carts for $42.87+S/H, less if you buy more than one, and
you get $5 for sending your old cart back (they pay S/H).
MEI Micro 1-800-634-3478
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin +
+ kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: disktab for Tahoe/Pinnacle MO drive
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.113233.18792@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <2c3q3d$536@quad.wfunet.wfu.edu>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 11:32:33 GMT
In article <2c3q3d$536@quad.wfunet.wfu.edu> wuj9@ac.wfu.edu (joe wu)
writes:
> I will be receiving the MO drive soon. Does anyone have the disktab
info
> for this drive? Please email directly to me. Thank you.
>
> --
Hi
Here 2 MO description.
Hope that helps.
#
mo|MO|SONY SMO-C501-00E:\
:ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1051:nt#9:ns#61:ss#1024:rm#2400:\
:fp#256:bp#256:\
:os=odmach:z0#80:z1#168:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#288225:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#8192:ra#5:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
# MaxOptix Tahiti 2
tahiti2|TAHITI2|MaxOptixTahiti 2:\
:ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1183:nt#17:ns#45:ss#1024:rm#3400:\
:fp#256:bp#256:\
:os=odmach:z0#80:z1#168:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#452241:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#8192:ra#5:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Which CD-ROM player is best
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.113714.18854@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <1993Nov13.222326.6303@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 11:37:14 GMT
In article <1993Nov13.222326.6303@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> dbhinz@znih.rmnug.org
(David Hinz) writes:
>
> Planning on buying a cd-rom player soon! I currently have a NeXTstation
Turbo
> Color and want to get a player that has a mid-range price with the
following
> features:
>
> Photo-CD compatible
> Compatible with NeXT cd-player audio app
> fast, double or triple speed
>
> Any other features to make the cd-player the best for my money for
my
> slab, but also will be possible to connect to a 486 system (I hope to
buy one
> soon).
>
> Send suggestions and I will summarize and post.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Hinz.
SONY CDU561 has all the features you need.
--fabien
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From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP: My Black NeXT can't read Mac CD's and floppy's
Date: 16 Nov 1993 12:28:01 GMT
Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. at Aarhus University
Message-ID: <2cah0h$g1o@belfort.daimi.aau.dk>
Keywords: Mac disk cd
I have a very urgent problem when I insert a Mac CD-Rom in my
NeXT CD-rom player, it just push it out again. I have the same problem
with Mac floppy's (1.4Mb) : My NeXT just ask me to format or eject the
disk. If I select to format, I can't format as a Mac-Disk.
HELP HELP.
Thanks in advance.
-- Jens
From: rwolf@on.bell.ca (Robert Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: BusLogic 747S SCSI controller boot problems
Date: 16 Nov 1993 08:24:28 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311161424.AA09339@dmoc61.on.bell.ca>
Rob Wolf
Bell Sygma Telecom Solutions
160 Elgin St., Room 550
Ottawa, Ontario
K2P 2C4
Tel: (613) 781-6517
Fax: (613) 238-7772
Email Address: rwolf@on.bell.ca
I have the following configuration:
Touch 486DX2-66 EISA Tower (Award Software BIOS v 4.50)
256K Cache RAM
32 Meg RAM
Panasonic JU257 1.44" floppy
Bus Logic 747S SCSI Controller (Bios 4.5, Firmware 3.31)
Maxtor 540SL 540MB SCSI hard drive
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 2MB EISA
NEC 5FG 17" monitor
SONY CDU561 internal SCSI CD ROM
I am trying to install NeXT 3.1 developer, but I can't seem to get the machine
to boot properly. (Slowly going out of my mind...)
- I have the BusLogic card configured exactly as outlined in the
nextanswers document #1118 (appended below).
- I have the Maxtor drive configured as SCSI ID 0, and the Sony CD-ROM
configured as SCSI ID 1.
- I installed Bios 4.5, Firmware 3.31 when I was told that the bios
and firmware I had (4.7 and 3.35, respectively) would not support next.
The story I got was that this bios & firmware would not allow the CD
to be device 1 because BusLogic reserved 0 and 1 for hard disks (The
new bios/firmware combo doesn't seem to solve this...)
- The SCSI bus is terminated at the board and the CD-ROM, with the hard
disk in the middle unterminated.
The errors I get on boot are:
1. When the CD initializes as sd1a, I get about 12 lines saying
AHA Interrupt: bad status 14
2. After the floppy has initialized as fd0a, I get:
root on sd1
rootdev 608, howto 0
Load of etc/mach_init failed, errno 2, trying etc/init
Load of etc/init failed, errno 2
FloppyCntIo:flushIntMsgs:Stray Interrupt
When I boot to DOS with the above configuration, my BusLogic supplied SCSI
driver registers the SCSI devices, but the supplied CD-ROM driver reports
"No CD-ROM device found" when it tries to load. If I move the CD to any other
SCSI ID number, DOS boots properly and accepts the CD. The CD then operates
normally. Unfortunately, NeXT will not accept the CD with any SCSI ID other
than 1.
If anyone has a configuration similar to mine working (in particular the
BusLogic 747S), I'd appreciate hearing from you (email me at rwolf@on.bell.ca).
I'll be sure to summarize and post any useful suggestions or solutions I get.
=== NeXTanswers document 1118 =================================================
NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors
Title: Bus Logic BT-747 SCSI Controller
Entry Number: 1118
Last Updated: 27 October 1993
Document Revision: 1093B
Product Vendor:
Bus Logic, Inc.
4151 Burton Drive
Santa Clara, CA 95054
USA
+1 (408) 492 9090 phone
+1 (408) 492 1984 bulletin board system
Keywords: Bus Logic, 747, SCSI, EISA
Usage Commentary:
The Bus Logic BT-747 SCSI Controller provides a bus-mastering, EISA, SCSI
interface for NEXTSTEP for Intel Processors.
Setup and Installation:
Select the Adaptec1542B driver in the Configure application to drive the
Bus Logic BT-747 SCSI Controller. The BT-747 emulates the Adaptec 1542B.
You can use the default driver settings.
Remove jumper W8 to disable the BT-747's integrated floppy controller.
A working system with a Bus Logic BT-747 SCSI controller at NeXT had the
following settings:
Board Specification
BT-747S/BT-747D ASSY 1002012-01 Rev A1
BIOS version 4.50
Firmware version 3.31
EISA Configuration Utility Setup
BusLogic 32 Bit Bus Master EISA-to-SCSI Host Adapter (v1.90)
BusLogic Host Adapter Configuration
Host I/O Port Address 330h -default
Host Interrupt Request INT11 Edge -default
Host Bios (16KBytes) Address 0D8000h*
ISA DMA Channel Emulation DMA Channel 5 -default
EISA Bus Burst Cycles Enable
SCSI Configuration
Host Adapter SCSI ID ID = 7 -default
SCSI Parity Enable -default
Disk Drive Capacity Disk < 1 GB -default **
Adapter Initiate Sync Negotiation Enable
Maximum Sync Data Rate Allowed 10 MBytes/sec - FAST SCSI ***
Floppy Subsystem Disable Floppy -default
* This address may need to be modified to avoid conflict with other
resources.
** Modify accordingly.
*** Reduce to 5MB/sec if cables attached to the card are of low signal
quality (e.g. too long) or for SCSI troubleshooting purposes.
If the BT-747 isn't at the end of the SCSI bus, be sure to terminate it. See
the manual provided with the Bus Logic BT-747 to find out how to actively
terminate it.
Known Problems:
* You may need to cold boot some computers to successfully reset the
Bus Logic card. The problem has been observed when NEXTSTEP attempts to
configure the device drivers during the boot process. (To cold boot your
computer, shut it down normally, turn the power off, wait three seconds,
then turn the power on.)
* NEXTSTEP Release 3.1 does not officially support the integrated
floppy controller on the BT-747.
* Improper SCSI termination can cause strange, unreproducible errors.
For maximum reliability be certain that the first and last devices on the
SCSI bus are terminated. For more information on this topic see Intel
Configuration entry number 1109, "SCSI Setup."
* BIOS version 4.70 and firmware version 3.37 are incompatible with
NEXTSTEP. NeXT is investigating this problem.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1993Nov16.152408.28333@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
References: <23382@news.duke.edu> <rawyattCGADDv.Es9@netcom.com> <2c3hi9$jis@inxs.concert.net> <CGG8yG.BAs@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 93 15:24:08 GMT
In article <CGG8yG.BAs@news.iastate.edu>, Chris Wong
<chris@iastate.edu> wrote:
> What can NeXT do about this? Pay WP to release WP6? NeXT would
> rather save the money for marketing...
I'd rather see NeXT develop apps in-house before they resort to paying
companies to produce products like WP. If the market can't support it,
then it ain't good product.
%^) Note to Frame:
The reason you aren't selling any copies of FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP is
because you're ignoring the new customers. NeXT's HW was discontinued.
It's hard to sell an app for a platform that is not generating new
seats. I've got the cash, waiting for product...
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
From: flikkema@eng.umd.edu (Paul Flikkema)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DEC XL -- more info needed!
Date: 16 Nov 1993 16:29:28 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2cav58$31h@mojo.eng.umd.edu>
Summary: Get XL instead of MTE for NS?
Keywords: DEC, MTE, XL, NEXSTEP 3.2
"To MTE or XL, that is the question."
MTE: in 3.2 compatibility guide (certified, not just listed),
guaranteed to work, good machine.
XL: NOT in the 3.2 compat. guide, but has built-in SCSI-2 and PCI
bus. Newer technology, protection against obsolescence.
I had decided to go the safe route and get the MTE, but then someone
posted that they saw NS 3.2 running on an XL. Of many, one question
that arises: was 3.2 installed using a CD-ROM attached to the built-in
SCSI-2 port?
Can anyone shed some light on this? Inquiring minds...
Paul Flikkema
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: jr@media.com (JR Jesson)
Subject: NeXT Format CD-ROM Burner??
Message-ID: <1993Nov16.152354.4313@media.com>
Organization: Multimedia Learning, Inc.
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 15:23:54 GMT
We are looking for a hardware/software combination
that will allow us to burn NeXT CD-ROMs. My understanding
is that we need to burn ISO 9960/Rockridge format discs,
which we cannot do at the present time. We now have
a Phillips CDD-521 CD-ROM burner with Mac and PC software,
so it would be great if we could reuse the hardware. I'm
not quite sure where to start the search, so any pointers
would be appreciated...
jr
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Daydream (was Re: That Funny Mac Box?)
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.204916.4358@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <2bucrg$nc2@nic.cerf.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 20:49:16 GMT
In article <2bucrg$nc2@nic.cerf.net> andylee@nic.cerf.net (Andy Lee)
writes:
> Sebastian Kowalski (snk@pampero.ka.sub.org) wrote:
> > I saw it on last thursday working with a NeXT mono station. Just plug
> > in the hardware to the DSP port, install the Software and start. It
> > works fine....
>
> I called the company two months ago, they claimed the product is "all
> ready to go" but they were having "legal" problems with NeXT, i.e.
> NeXT won't let them urn another OS on NeXT hardware. I thought it
> sounded suspicous, because NeXT certainly did not ask for permission
> from Intel or Dell in order to port NeXTstep to Intel machines (or did
> they?).
>
> I don't know for sure what is going on with DayDream. But it sure
> sounds like they are still working out the bugs, and made up the
> "legal" problem story to keep the customer hanging... (I was going to
> buy Executor before I saw the DayDream ad, but now I don't know if
> DayDream will ever ship.)
>
I double the info of Sebastian. We both saw it running. It was great!
The speed was considerably above a Quadra 700 line, and the screen ist
much better! And I never saw a Mac booting that fast!!!
Only problems:
- price (1400 Swiss Francs)
- no NeXTlaser (not in this release, at least)
- no PhotoShop (but this is also said to be in the line)
- some more complicated confs of Ethertalk - Shiva - LocalTalk tend to
hang in some cases.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel GX/Pro no longer certified
Date: 16 Nov 1993 18:01:46 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2cb4ia$3g0@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Does anyone know if NeXT is trying to drop Intel GX/Pro systems? They
slipped from "certified" to "listed." (Also,the GX/Pro graphics mode only
has 1024*768 listed. I had hoped that NeXT was working on a 1280*1024 mode
for these ATIs.)
Finally, I find it to be disappointing that there is only one supported
Pentium system (Compaq), and that this one has no better than 1024*768,
either. There is no listed Pentium alternative system, either.
Well, let's hope that NeXT improved the SCSI DPT driver, so that I can run
3-4 large hard disks off it.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choice of video cards for 3.2/3.1
Date: 16 Nov 1993 11:01:58 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ
Message-ID: <2cb4im$579@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
References: <2c8tnm$1qn@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
I went and got the guide and printed out the page with video cards.
ATI Revision 6 can still do 1120x832
Looks like the ati pci card is not supported until 1q 94 (but it says
see file included with driver for more info).
Dell Jaws is supported at 1120x832
Tseng Labs ET-4000 W32i says see file with driver or a future version of the
guide (scheduled for 1q94 also).
Under S3-928, #9 GXE-VL support 1152x819 but it's 8 bit grey scale.
STB Pegasus VL - see file with driver or future guide
Finally, Diamond Viper-VL - scheduled for a future version of the guide or
see driver!
Hard to saw what the best choice is. The ATI board was not available
at my first dealer. He's been about to receive some for several weeks (4).
Looks like the s3 cards won't support 1120x832x16bit.
I wonder if they JAWS card from DELL is sold under different names?
-nick
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From: lim@lim.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ik-Sung Lim)
Subject: Syquest Removable Hard Disk
Message-ID: <1993Nov16.174149.19893@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Sender: lim@lim (Ik-Sung Lim)
Organization: Motorola ATC
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 17:41:49 GMT
I'd like to use a Syquest Removable disk for my Mac and NextColorStation.
My Next uses NEXTSTEP 2.1.
What do I need to connect the disk to the Next and use it?
Can I use the same SCSI cable for the Mac and Next?
What software do I need?
Currently I am thinking of buying a used 88Mb Syquest for a Mac.
If I need anything else, I'd like to know where/how to get it.
Any comments on experience on Syquest drive are very welcome.
Thanks
Ik-Sung Lim (lim@atc.sps.mot.com)
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Choice of video cards for 3.2/3.1
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 18:47:50 GMT
In article <2cb4im$579@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick
Kline) writes:
>>I wonder if they JAWS card from DELL is sold under different names?
>>
I thought JAWS was integrated onto the motherboard.
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From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which FAX/Modems supported for NeXT?
Date: 16 Nov 1993 20:22:36 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2cbcqc$9ga@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
I would like to be able send and receive FAXes on my NeXT. Which FAX/Modems
are supported for the NeXT? Is there any software that is needed?
Thanks,
Tal Lancaster
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From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H. Sieglinger)
Subject: Hard drive help
Message-ID: <CGLqu0.3oB@kaiwan.com>
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access (310-527-4279,714-539-0829,830-606[1 to 4] guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 20:42:00 GMT
I found a good deal on Fujitsu drives at Comdex. A 1gb 3.5" drive, model #
M2694ESA for $825, or a 2gb M2654SA for 1495. The deal is only good until the
19th. If I buy either of these drives, will I have a problem with either
formatting, or with drivers? I would think the answer is no, but before I
shell out I thought I'd check. Anyone wanting info, please contact me and
I'll fax you a copy of the order form (Comdex only). thanks, Chip
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: HELP: My Black NeXT can't read Mac CD's and floppy's
Message-ID: <1993Nov16.190027.3472@free.fdn.org>
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 19:00:27 GMT
In article <2cah0h$g1o@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup
Jensen) writes:
> I have a very urgent problem when I insert a Mac CD-Rom in my
> NeXT CD-rom player, it just push it out again. I have the same problem
> with Mac floppy's (1.4Mb) : My NeXT just ask me to format or eject the
> disk. If I select to format, I can't format as a Mac-Disk.
>
> HELP HELP.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -- Jens
What NeXT kernel are you using 2.x, 3.0,3.1,3.2 ?
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From: david@csc.technion.ac.il (David H. Lorenz)
Subject: Porting NeXT hardware to PC
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 10:19:46 GMT
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I picked up a black NeXT monitor and NeXT laser printer.
Could any one tell me whether there is a chance of connecting them to
an Intel 486 hardware (running NeXT step 3.1)?
Is there some controller in the market that supports such a connection?
If not, what would it take to build such a controller? (for each case).
Would there be any interest in it?
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From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Subject: Can't get Mac HD to work on NeXTstation
Message-ID: <1993Nov16.235827.146@ants.ci.net>
Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net
Organization: Andover Newton Theological School
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 23:58:27 GMT
Hi All,
I recently bought a mac external HD, a scsi-1 to scsi-2 cable, and a
terminator. No combination of termination configurations will even get the
disk to show up in the startup sequence. The drive worked unterminated on a
mac and, as far as I know, the cable is OK (the fellow who sold it to me tested
it before he sent it.) Is there something I'm not doing that I should be?
Thanks a million,
James
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From: traupman-jonathan@cs.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choice of video cards for 3.2/3.1
Date: 16 Nov 1993 20:52:56 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Message-ID: <2cc05oINNdmo@PYTHON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU>
References: <2c8tnm$1qn@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <2cb4im$579@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu>
In article <2cb4im$579@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) writes:
>I went and got the guide and printed out the page with video cards.
>
>ATI Revision 6 can still do 1120x832
>
>Looks like the ati pci card is not supported until 1q 94 (but it says
>see file included with driver for more info).
>
>Dell Jaws is supported at 1120x832
>
>Tseng Labs ET-4000 W32i says see file with driver or a future version of the
>guide (scheduled for 1q94 also).
>
>Under S3-928, #9 GXE-VL support 1152x819 but it's 8 bit grey scale.
>
>STB Pegasus VL - see file with driver or future guide
>
>Finally, Diamond Viper-VL - scheduled for a future version of the guide or
>see driver!
>
>Hard to saw what the best choice is. The ATI board was not available
>at my first dealer. He's been about to receive some for several weeks (4).
>
>Looks like the s3 cards won't support 1120x832x16bit.
>
>I wonder if they JAWS card from DELL is sold under different names?
>
>-nick
>
>
>
I have to admit...I was very disappointed with the amount of new device
support in 3.2, especially in the realm of video. 1024x768 on my rev 3 ATI
card is ok, but I really want something better. Come on NeXT: you've got a
high end OS so why support only mid-range cards? Where are the drivers for
the Matrox cards, and the 4MB S3-928 cards, and the 3&4MB MediaVision
cards? My only hope is that if driverKit is really so good, some of the
very talented people here will be able to provide them.
BTW: does anyone know if sound works under 3.2? I'm really sick of using
the "System Beep Driver" since my $200 sound card is only good for system
crashes.
Later,
Jon
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: VRAM on NextStation Color
Date: 17 Nov 1993 00:44:21 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2cbs55INN2lv@network.ucsd.edu>
As I recall, the "extra" SIMM slot on a NextStation Color board
(non-turbo) is for VRAM. Is there any improved video performance to be
gained from filling it, and if so, what kind of SIMM goes there?
--
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From: shi@napoli.ks.uiuc.edu (Zhouhong Joel Shi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP: CD player problem
Date: 17 Nov 1993 03:51:53 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2cc74p$egm@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: CD_ROM, data CD and audio CD
I read some posters about the CD player. I have some problems with
my CD player too. My CD-ROM also can read data but not audio. As
suggested, I put /usr/lib/kern_loader/Audio/audio_reloc
into /etc/kern_loader.conf
and reboot the system, the autio filesystem has been installed. But
when I run cd player, it is said that my CD-Driver can not found.
and from the console, I got following error message:
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 3
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 4
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
sd2 (4,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
sd2 (4,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64
SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label)
sd2 (4,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64
SCSI Block in error = 8 (no valid label)
sd2 (4,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x64
SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label)
DISK UNFORMATTED
Disk is Write Protected
probing for cdaudio
Nov 16 21:29:45 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 3
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 4
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
Could some experts tell me what the problem is and how to fix it?
Thanks a lot in advance.
--
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From: jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: My Black NeXT can't read Mac CD's and floppy's (Solved)
Date: 17 Nov 1993 08:36:40 GMT
Organization: DAIMI, Computer Science Dept. at Aarhus University
Message-ID: <2ccnqo$d63@belfort.daimi.aau.dk>
References: <2cah0h$g1o@belfort.daimi.aau.dk>
Keywords: Mac disk cd
Thus spake jhj@daimi.aau.dk (Jens H|rup Jensen):
>I have a very urgent problem when I insert a Mac CD-Rom in my
>NeXT CD-rom player, it just push it out again. I have the same problem
>with Mac floppy's (1.4Mb) : My NeXT just ask me to format or eject the
>disk. If I select to format, I can't format as a Mac-Disk.
It can read Mac disks and CDs, but the directory /usr/filesysterms/mac.fs
should contain the right files.
Thanks for the answers.
-- Jens
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From: reinhard@avalon.unizh.ch (reinhardt peter)
Subject: Which Harddrive for Nextstation ?
Message-ID: <1993Nov17.090148.18442@ifi.unizh.ch>
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 09:01:48 GMT
hello,
i am looking for a compatible harddrive for my color nextstation
(motorola). has anybody successfully tried out one of these drives
listed below? Any experience welcome!
Fujitsu M2694ESA 1.08 Gig
Seagate ST11200N
Maxtor MXT-1240S
Peter
(No Nextmail please.)
From: vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (Vadim S. Kaplunovsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choice of video cards for 3.2/3.1
Date: 17 Nov 1993 10:01:00 GMT
Organization: University of Texas, Physics Dept.
Distribution: world
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[posting from a dumb terminal using buggy software; sorry for the appearence]
A couple of day ago I saw a truely awesome S3 video card, S32 Miro Crystal
with 4M of VRAM on it. Miro is a German company, but they have an office
in the Silicon valley. The price they quoted me for the card (including
the 4M of VRAM and the NS 3.1 driver) was US$899 -- expensive, but IMHO
worth it if you really want a great video card for your white NeXT.
The Miro Crystal can go all the way up to 1408 by 1024 pixels in 16 bit color
at a comfortable refresh rate of 74 Hz (non-interlaced); of course, you would
need a nice big monitor to get a full use of this capability. I do not rememberwhat was the maximal resolution for the 32-bit true color, but it was at least
1024 by 768, possibly more. The pre-release NS 3.2 driver was slightly buggy
but useable; it should work better with the final version of NS 3.2.
I saw this Miro card demoed in the new NEC Image machine, which is not bad
by the white hardware standards. However, the Tsang Labs video that came
with the machine is a piece of crap. It is listed as supporting 16 bit color
at 1024 by 768, and it does, but only at 45 HZ refresh rate -(. Also, the
driver is seriously buggy -- the mouse leaves droppings all over the screen.
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A couple of day ago I saw a truely awesome S3 video card, S32 Miro Crystal
with 4M of VRAM on it. Miro is a German company, but they have an office
in the Silicon valley. The price they quoted me for the card (including
the 4M of VRAM and the NS 3.1 driver) was US$899 -- expensive, but IMHO
worth it if you really want a great video card for your white NeXT.
The Miro Crystal can go all the way up to 1408 by 1024 pixels in 16 bit color
at a comfortable refresh rate of 74 Hz (non-interlaced); of course, you would
need a nice big monitor to get a full use of this capability. I do not rememberwhat was the maximal resolution for the 32-bit true color, but it was at least
1024 by 768, possibly more. The pre-release NS 3.2 driver was slightly buggy
but useable; it should work better with the final version of NS 3.2.
I saw this Miro card demoed in the new NEC Image machine, which is not bad
by the white hardware standards. However, the Tsang Labs video that came
with the machine is a piece of crap. It is listed as supporting 16 bit color
at 1024 by 768, and it does, but only at 45 HZ refresh rate -(. Also, the
driver is seriously buggy -- the mouse leaves droppings all over the screen.
**********************************************************************
Vadim S. Kaplunovsky, | #include <std_disclaimer.h>
Assistant Professor of Physics, |
University of Texas at Austin. | My English isn't THAT bad,
vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu | but my typing stinks:-(.
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From: mxedisn@teal.csn.org (David C. Whitcombe)
Subject: Megapixel<==>Cube Cable Replacement
Message-ID: <CGMrzn.4J2@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 10:04:34 GMT
Hello all. I have a happy little '040 cube, and the cable between the cube
and my megapixel has gone a tad funky. To wit, when jiggled slightly,
communication (save for the power key) between Keyboard/Mouse and Cube is
fungoed. By grabbing the cable and re-jiggling it, I can re-establish
communication. Is this a straight-through cable?
If there is anyone who has experienced a similar disability, please let me
know.
I don't read this group near often enough, so if you want to enlighten me
on this, email to
mxedisn@gendep.com, and I'll post results, if there are sufficient ones to
warrant use of bandwidth.
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Which FAX/Modems supported for NeXT?
Message-ID: <1993Nov17.095135.5760@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <2cbcqc$9ga@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 09:51:35 GMT
In article <2cbcqc$9ga@gap.cco.caltech.edu> tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis
Lancaster) writes:
> I would like to be able send and receive FAXes on my NeXT. Which
FAX/Modems
> are supported for the NeXT? Is there any software that is needed?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Tal Lancaster
> --
>
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SupraFaxModem + NXFax is a good choice.
There is also Zyxel Fax which I think is more expensive.
NXFax: contact Linda Rosen <linda@bandw.com>.
SupraFaxModem: any Mac or PC supplyer.
--Fabien
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From: lucas@blkbox.COM (Lucas C. Wagner)
Subject: Re: Use of 486SLC2 for NeXTSTEP FIP (the new 66MHz Board) (Answer)
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 12:16:20 GMT
Message-ID: <CGMy39.MKF@NeoSoft.com>
References: <CGJyxI.5q0@NeoSoft.com>
Sender: usenet@NeoSoft.com (C-news)
Ok.. I found out that the 66MHz board *IS* fully compatible
with Intel processors, and that IBM licensed the microcode
from Intel.
Lucas
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Intel GX/Pro no longer certified
Message-ID: <1993Nov17.083321.9083@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 08:33:21 GMT
In article <2cb4ia$3g0@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
writes:
> Does anyone know if NeXT is trying to drop Intel GX/Pro systems? They
> slipped from "certified" to "listed." (Also,the GX/Pro graphics mode only
> has 1024*768 listed. I had hoped that NeXT was working on a 1280*1024 mode
> for these ATIs.)
>
We have 3.2. The 1280x1024 mode works well on all the cards we have tried it -
including the ATI, if your monitor can do it. The 8-bit mono 1280 modes look
really nice..
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From: terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry Marrs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SMC Elite 16 vs Intel EtherExpress
Date: 17 Nov 1993 14:02:41 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <2cdau1$vq@gateway.wiltel.com>
Here's what I've found different between the two. The both work fine
in the NS/FIP machines, however I've seen a performance problem with
the SMC card.
Here's what I've tested.
The input buffer for the SMC Elite 16 ethernet card is either not
large enough to handle the inbound packets or NextStep is not
retrieving the inbound data from the buffer fast enough. The test
comprised of copying a 2.5meg file from a NFS mount to the local hard
drive of a Intel NextStep machine then coping it back to the NFS
mount. The test was conducted with the current setup of the SMC card,
changing the inbound packet size to 4k and using an Intel
EtherExpress card. The following chart shows the results.
Standard SMC with Intel
SMC Config 4k buffers EtherExpress
NFS to Local HD 143sec 35sec 6sec
Local HD to NFS 10sec 17sec 12sec
NFS to NFS 10sec 21sec 10sec
Of cource all inbound data would see the same problems. Has anyone
else seen this or can anyone explain this better?
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: MIDI cable Pinout Questions...
Message-ID: <CGMD2E.1s9@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <2c49k3$5sk@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 04:42:13 GMT
In article <2c49k3$5sk@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu
(Alex Currier) writes:
#
#Hello. Someone posted here the other day a bried diagram for building a cable
#to work with the Opcode Midi Translator interface and an '040 NeXT. I built a
#cable using the diagram and it does indeed work for two way communications (I
#am using an old Apple single in, single out interface). The only problem is
#when I try to use it with either Presto or Ensemble I get dozens of "MIDI
#driver hardware framing error" messages in console. My devices are receiving
#data but with Ensemble I get no actual notes. With Presto I do get the notes
#but there are so many of the above errors that they are severely delayed.
#What's a hardware framing error? Did I wire my cable wrong? Is there any hope?
I'm the one that posted the information.
No you did not wire your cable wrong. The old Apple 1in/out interface will
not work correctly. I have a friend that tried it and it failed just
like yours. The Opcode interface works correctly.
Once again, the old Apple interface *WILL NOT* work correctly.
#Should I go ahead and buy a mac to do my MIDI work on? Ya'know, I'd like to
#think that I could use my NeXT for MIDI as well and easily as I can use a Mac
#(which I used to own) but it seems that MIDI composition is a small market in
#NeXT's small market. It's a shame I don't have years to waste or I would write
#my own sequencer.
Presto is a good product. It will support 2 Midi Translators if you have them.
As far as selling your NeXT it depends on how much MIDI you plan to do.
#
#Do I sound a bit irate? Yes, I am. I have $15,000 worth of computer on my desk
#and I could do my work better on a $1500 Macintosh because it has the quality
#tools and mine doesn't.
There are plenty of quality tools. With $15000 worth of computer, dump the
$5.00 Apple interface.
Kent
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From: scott@corybant.rmnug.org (Scott Meyer)
Subject: 1280x1024 Video
Message-ID: <1993Nov17.042926.9075@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: scott@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 04:29:26 GMT
I'm trying to put together a PC for NeXTSTEP that will handle
1280x1024 video with 16-bit colors. The 3.2 hardware compatibility
guide shows that a DEC MTE d2 with the S3-928 card and 4MB of
ram will support that resolution (NEXTSTEP-certified). However,
in the section on graphics adapters the S3-928 (Number Nine GXE-VL)
supports only 1024x768. Is there any way to get 1280x1024 using
an off-the-shelf video card? That failing, what off-the-shelf
adapter is most likely to be supported at that resolution in the
future?
Thanks in advance,
-Scott
--
Scott Meyer
scott@corybant.rmNUG.ORG - NeXT mail is welcome.
From: mgrmja@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J. Allard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: *SLOW* Trackball on AMS portable
Followup-To: poster
Date: 17 Nov 1993 16:25:15 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2cdj9b$dgv@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
Keywords: notebook, AMS, NS/FIP, trackball, slow, thumb-thumb-thumb-thumb, carpal-tunnel
Greetings.
We have an AMS 486/33 portable that we have loaded NeXTstep on (NeXT has not
yet certified them, but the machine works great!). Here's my problem:
When I hook up an Microsoft mouse to COM1, the mouse response is great.
However, if I try to use the built-in trackball (i.e. PS/2 Mouse), it
**creeeeeps** across the screen. I took the fastest mouse setting, doubled
all the appropriate numbers in the "NeXT1 MouseScaling" default, and it
still is mostly unusable. I have been told that the trackball worked fine
under Windoze. Of course, the HD that contained Windoze now contains
NeXTSTEP. :-)
Any pointers (via e-mail, please) toward getting reasonable mouse response
will be greatly appreciated. If I don't get any pointers, I'll tweak the
MouseScaling numbers some more and post the results (if I get any I like
:-).
Thanks in advance.
--
Michael J. Allard --- Workstation Manager, Waters Computing Center
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, IN 812-877-8273
E-Mail: <Michael.Allard@rose-hulman.edu> Fax: 812-877-3198
#import <std/disclaimer.h> -- NeXTmail Friendly! -- HAMnet: KA9VDC
From: terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry Marrs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choice of video cards for 3.2/3.1
Date: 17 Nov 1993 18:39:00 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <2cdr44$25n@gateway.wiltel.com>
References: <2cc05oINNdmo@PYTHON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU>
> BTW: does anyone know if sound works under 3.2? I'm really sick of using
> the "System Beep Driver" since my $200 sound card is only good for
> system crashes.
Works great under the beta 3.2 version. I have not tried recording though.
--
|Terry Marrs
|terry_marrs@wiltel.com
|WilTel | NeXTmail OK
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: VRAM on NextStation Color
Date: 17 Nov 1993 19:35:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2cdudg$m52@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <2cbs55INN2lv@network.ucsd.edu>
In article <2cbs55INN2lv@network.ucsd.edu> alevine@ucsd.edu writes:
>As I recall, the "extra" SIMM slot on a NextStation Color board
>(non-turbo) is for VRAM. Is there any improved video performance to be
>gained from filling it, and if so, what kind of SIMM goes there?
There is no extra slot for VRAM (video RAM). What you saw must
be the slot for the DSP Expansion RAM, or regular DRAM SIMM slots.
--
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USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
From: pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help with new NeXTDimension Board
Date: 17 Nov 1993 19:38:55 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <PJS.93Nov17123856@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
I just got an ND board, but no documentation. I'm still waiting for
the monitor cable to arrive, but in the meantime I have a couple of
questions.
1) Is there some command similar to hostinfo, which will tell me the
status of the board and how much memory is on the board?
2) Alternatively, is there some way to tell by looking at the 72-pin
Simms what size they are?
3) Exactly what are the input jacks? The one looks like S-video, but
the others labelled A and B could be audio, video, or who knows
what...
4) Do I need to do anything to activate the board aside from plugging
it into slot 2? I don't see any sign of it in the monitor during
bootup, is that because I don't yet have the monitor connected (due to
lack of cable)?
Answers to any or all questions will be greatly appreciated.
--
--paul paul@whimsy.umsl.edu
=================================================================
A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular.
-- Adlai Stevenson
=================================================================
From: devans@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (David F Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DEC RZ55 for Cube
Date: 17 Nov 1993 20:03:28 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2ce02g$27u@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
I'm trying to use a DEC RZ55 as a sysetem disk and am having problems
installing 3.0.
I boot using the CD-ROM Tools disk and while it's looking for CD-ROM drives
I get many "sc0: unexpected msg: 1" errors referring to the RZ55. The
install program eventually boots but when it tries to initialize the disk it
complains with a bunch of "incomplete disk transfer" messages and various
amounts and residues.
I don't have the RZ55 manual yet so I'm just using the jumper settings it
came wih. If anyone has this manual or advice on what settings to use (based
on my detailed information.... ;)) I would be grateful.
=============================================================================
David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie
University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the
Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command."
- Roland TR-707 Manual
From: root@moses.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: microtek MZ300 an NeXT Station?
Date: 17 Nov 1993 20:30:42 GMT
Organization: Heinrich Heine Universitaet Duesseldorf
Message-ID: <2ce1li$523@unidus.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de>
Does anyone know how to connect an Microtek SCSI Color Scanner to the
black hardware. (Hrad and Software)?
Please send answers to schroedm@uni-duesseldorf.de
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Subject: Re: NeXT LP squeeks during printing
Message-ID: <CGLCoI.wM@hawk.cs.ukans.edu>
From: stubbs@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Jerry Stubbs)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 15:36:18 GMT
References: <2br84r$k03@cofc20.cs.cofc.edu>
Organization: University of Kansas Computer Science Dept
In article <2br84r$k03@cofc20.cs.cofc.edu> kunkle@harry.cofc.edu (Tom Kunkle) writes:
>
>My Next Laser printer squeeks badly while
>paper is running through, like some moving
>part needs oil.
>
>Can't find any help in doc.s that
>came with it.
>
>What should I do to keep it from dying?
>
>Tom Kunkle
I doubt that it will die, but you might spray a little (!) tv
tuner cleaner spray on the gears, incase you;'ve spilled toner
in there or it is dusyty. OUt only porblem has been the gear
to the fuser output, we had to buy and modify gears to fit.
BTW, if anyone wants/needs any of the fuser output gears, we
bought five, adn I cut them in half with a Dremel mototool,
so we have ten!
stubbs@cs.ukans.edu
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From: rick@bandw.com
Subject: Re: NS/IP and ZyXEL Modems
Message-ID: <1993Nov17.161946.7252@bandw.com>
Organization: Black & White Software
References: <PFP.93Nov15151050@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> <CGJtuI.Avq@np.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 16:19:46 GMT
In an article
<PFP.93Nov15151050@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at>
pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter
Pflaeging) writes:
> Has anyone experience in faxing from NS/IP with a ZyXEL
> modem?
>
> Are there products floating around, or is there support
> in 3.2?
And Paul Nordstrom (paul@np.com) replied:
> I am running NS/IP 3.1 and have had nearly perfect success
> with in- and outbound faxes on my ZyXEL U-1496E. I also use
> Black & White Software's NXFax product, which I swear by.
I would like to explain that Paul is one of our beta
testers. NXFax for Intel is *almost* ready. We expect to
release in December.
As you may have heard, the serial driver that came out with
the first release of NEXTSTEP for Intel was not working
properly -- this prevented us from running our beta
program to test that NXFax for Intel was good enough to
ship. NeXT has since fixed their problem and we have
nearly completed beta testing -- everything is looking
good. We are still making a few changes to ensure that the
product will be trouble-free when shipped.
There will be prominent net postings when NXFax 1.04 (fat
binary) is ready, sometime in December.
If you would like to be added to a list to be notified
personally when a shipping date for NXFax 1.04 is
announced, please send a note to nxfax@bandw.com.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Damon rick@bandw.com
Black & White Software NeXTMail OK
802-496-8500 (voice) 802-496-5112 (fax)
From: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP: MicroWriter Laser Printer PS23 and NeXT
Date: 17 Nov 1993 18:08:02 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199311180007.BAA36378@grasp.insa-lyon.fr>
Bonjour!
Can anyone tell me what I can use MicroWriter Laser Printer PS23 (Texas Instrument) with NeXT Machine (Black)? All informations and any suggestions for using the , will be greatly appreciate.
Merci d'avance!
K. SHIM
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From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (brendan mcdougall)
Subject: damnable printer
Message-ID: <1993Nov17.223728.22683@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sender: news@news.cs.brandeis.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 22:37:28 GMT
Hi,
Our electronics engineer has been working on our printer for sometime.
The entrance rollers and exit gear controlling those rollers have been
replaced. The rollers just past the entrance rollers have been cleaned,
too. Still, the paper jams and doing the print test from PrintManager
yields printed copy with dark and light bands across the
page--horizonatal. BTW, we have changed the toner cartridge, too.
Does anyone have any further suggestions aside from sledging the printer?
Does anyone know how to obtain the detailed manual on the printer or what
moder Canon engine the printer uses?
Thanks and best regards,
Brendan McDougall
Physics Dept/Brandeis University
(no snow yet in Massachusetts)
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Choice of video cards for 3.2/3.1
Date: 18 Nov 1993 01:19:41 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2ceijd$79u@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <2c8tnm$1qn@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <2cb4im$579@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> <2cc05oINNdmo@PYTHON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU>
In article <2cc05oINNdmo@PYTHON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU> traupman-jonathan@cs.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman) writes:
>In article <2cb4im$579@cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu> kline@CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) writes:
>>I went and got the guide and printed out the page with video cards.
>>
>>ATI Revision 6 can still do 1120x832
>>
>>Looks like the ati pci card is not supported until 1q 94 (but it says
>>see file included with driver for more info).
>>
>>Dell Jaws is supported at 1120x832
>>
>>Tseng Labs ET-4000 W32i says see file with driver or a future version of the
>>guide (scheduled for 1q94 also).
>>
>>Under S3-928, #9 GXE-VL support 1152x819 but it's 8 bit grey scale.
>>
>>STB Pegasus VL - see file with driver or future guide
>>
>>Finally, Diamond Viper-VL - scheduled for a future version of the guide or
>>see driver!
>>
>>Hard to saw what the best choice is. The ATI board was not available
>>at my first dealer. He's been about to receive some for several weeks (4).
>>
>>Looks like the s3 cards won't support 1120x832x16bit.
>>
>>I wonder if they JAWS card from DELL is sold under different names?
>>
>>-nick
>>
>>
>>
>
>I have to admit...I was very disappointed with the amount of new device
>support in 3.2, especially in the realm of video. 1024x768 on my rev 3 ATI
>card is ok, but I really want something better. Come on NeXT: you've got a
>high end OS so why support only mid-range cards? Where are the drivers for
>the Matrox cards, and the 4MB S3-928 cards, and the 3&4MB MediaVision
>cards? My only hope is that if driverKit is really so good, some of the
>very talented people here will be able to provide them.
>
As a point of clarity, the STB Pegasus IS a S3-928 card with 4MB VRAM. I
should know - I have it! It is absolutely amazing under Windows, with
resolutions including:
1024x768 - 24 bit color
1280x1024 - 65K colors
1600x1200 - 256 colors
Panning across large images in Windows (at 1280x1024) is extremely fast and
smooth. This card has received great reviews in several magazines, including
the latest Computer Shopper. It is roughly 20% faster than the Diamond Viper
in Windows. The price is somewhere between the price of the DEC S3-928 card
($600) and the S32 Miro Crystal ($899). I bought mine for $650, I have heard
of it selling for $699, and I saw it for sale at a retail Comp USA for $829.
Under NEXTSTEP, it does work with the 3.1 S3 drivers at 800x600 color and
1024x768 grayscale. On a 486/66 system, NXBench gave scores of:
800x600 color:
line: 0.67298
arc/bezier: 0.64987
fill: 0.51508
transform: 1.36327
composite: 0.53671
userpath: 1.44120
text: 0.49018
window: 0.26341
Overall: 0.74159
1024x768 grayscale:
line: 1.23901
arc/bezier: 1.16325
fill: 1.16009
transform: 1.78907
composite: 0.99256
userpath: 1.92298
text: 1.17350
window: 0.65268
Overall: 1.26165
Once drivers are available to support this card officially under NeXTstep,
this could become the perfect 3rd party video card.
Varun
PS - I would like to point out that fast Windows performance does not
necessarily mean fast under NEXTSTEP. The Diamond Viper, for example, is
very fast under Windows, but is actually slower than the ATI GUP in DOS.
I don't think NEXTSTEP can take advantage of hardware primitives such as
lines and rectangles that are implemented by the graphics accelerator chip
since It draws all the windows off screen in buffers in main memory and then
block moves them onto the screen.
Personally, I feel NeXT should focus more on drivers for standard 3rd party
cards rather than specific vendors. They have written drivers for Dell DGX,
Wingine, and Compaq QVision, without drivers for more common standard video
cards. This limits NeXT's market, especially when these companies are not
wholeheartedly promoting NEXTSTEP, or when this video is integrated on the
motherboard.
In the 3.2 guide, I see the same thing happening with sound cards.
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help with new NeXTDimension Board
Date: 18 Nov 1993 01:33:48 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2cejds$1lt@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <PJS.93Nov17123856@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
In article <PJS.93Nov17123856@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) writes:
> 1) Is there some command similar to hostinfo, which will tell me the
> status of the board and how much memory is on the board?
If you boot in verbose mode (hold down <command><command><`> right after the
Testing System message goes away at boot) you'll see the configuration
information of the ND board at the end of the boot process. Or you can boot
normally and read /usr/adm/messages where you'll see something like this...
reboot: Reboot complete
mach: NeXTdimension Board in Slot 2:
mach: ROM Version 43, Memory Controller step 1, i860 step C.1
mach: 16 Mbytes of DRAM installed, NTSC video configured
mach: NeXTdimension server running (31)
> 3) Exactly what are the input jacks? The one looks like S-video, but
> the others labelled A and B could be audio, video, or who knows
> what...
There is indeed an SVHS input and output jack. In the input section you'll see
as well composite inputs A and B and the output section includes a single
composite output and an RGB connector. There are no audio connectors on the ND
board.
> 4) Do I need to do anything to activate the board aside from plugging
> it into slot 2? I don't see any sign of it in the monitor during
> bootup, is that because I don't yet have the monitor connected (due to
> lack of cable)?
Once you've connected the ND board in slot 2 and connected the display you'll
have it all taken care of (then you can set your preferences in Preferences
for the positioning of the two monitors if you intend to run both). I am not
sure if the board runs without the monitor attached. Check the
/usr/adm/messages to see.
--
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Alex Currier |
mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Iran to Iran to Iran to Iran to...
NeXTmail capable! |
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From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MIDI cable Pinout Questions...
Date: 18 Nov 1993 01:44:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2cek2a$1vi@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <CGMD2E.1s9@infoserv.com>
In article <CGMD2E.1s9@infoserv.com> kent@infoserv.com writes:
> I'm the one that posted the information.
> No you did not wire your cable wrong. The old Apple 1in/out interface will
> not work correctly. I have a friend that tried it and it failed just
> like yours. The Opcode interface works correctly.
Ah, and I just returned the Midi Translator II I bought a few weeks ago about
three days before seeing your post. I'll look into getting another one.
> Presto is a good product. It will support 2 Midi Translators if you have
them. As far as selling your NeXT it depends on how much MIDI you plan to do.
Well, I used to have a Mac and run Performer with a MIDI Time Piece II which
offered from 128 to 512 discrete midi channels. My setup isn't that big but I
definitely need more than 16 channels to work comfortably and it was nice to
have all the extra channels without sacrificing my second serial port.
> There are plenty of quality tools. With $15000 worth of computer, dump the
> $5.00 Apple interface.
The Apple interface is out the window but the MIDI tools available for
NeXTSTEP still (understandable) lag behind the cutting edge tools one can get
for the Macintosh platform. I suppose I can either make do or get a
MacintoshTV machine :)
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mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | Iran to Iran to Iran to Iran to...
NeXTmail capable! |
==============================================================================
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Suspends Work On WordPerfect 6.0 for NeXTSTEP
Date: 18 Nov 93 03:31:46 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <jeffo.753593506@uiuc.edu>
References: <23382@news.duke.edu> <rawyattCGADDv.Es9@netcom.com> <2c3hi9$jis@inxs.concert.net> <CGG8yG.BAs@news.iastate.edu> <1993Nov16.152408.28333@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Michael McCulloch writes:
>Note to Frame:
>The reason you aren't selling any copies of FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP is
>because you're ignoring the new customers.
I would also add that Frame/NS didn't have much going for it above
what Frame could do on other OSs. That is, Frame/NS wasn't
significantly superior to Frame/Mac (for example). In fact, when
comparing just how much of an NS app Frame/NS was, I'd say it made a
really poor one because it lacked some of the important
cross-application facilities that make NS unique and easy to use.
Given other apps running on the Mac system, apps from other major
vendors that continue to be supported and used by so many DTP and word
processing users, I can't see much reason to stick with Frame/NS as it
was.
To make Frame/NS worth the while, I'd ask that it be made into a real
NS-compliant application including exporting services, use of NS
standard panels and layout including NS Help. With recent changes in
NS, I would think this would be easier than in the NS 2.x days, but
since Frame seems to like to keep their apps on different platforms
all the same, I'm not betting that any of this will happen.
--
J.B. Nicholson-Owens (*NO* NeXTmail please)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: 1280x1024 Video
Message-ID: <1993Nov18.001834.10521@xexos.com>
Sender: news@xexos.com
Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
References: <1993Nov17.042926.9075@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 00:18:34 GMT
In article <1993Nov17.042926.9075@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> scott@corybant.rmnug.org
(Scott Meyer) writes:
>
> I'm trying to put together a PC for NeXTSTEP that will handle
> 1280x1024 video with 16-bit colors. The 3.2 hardware compatibility
> guide shows that a DEC MTE d2 with the S3-928 card and 4MB of
> ram will support that resolution (NEXTSTEP-certified). However,
> in the section on graphics adapters the S3-928 (Number Nine GXE-VL)
> supports only 1024x768. Is there any way to get 1280x1024 using
> an off-the-shelf video card? That failing, what off-the-shelf
> adapter is most likely to be supported at that resolution in the
> future?
>
We've run both the ATI and the #9 GXE card under 3.2 release, at 1280x1024,
though in monochrome mode (albeit 8 bit monochrome). Looks really, really nice.
Is actually "snappy" and feels like a NeXTStation (although the mono was never
8 bit on a station)
--
Mark Chamberlain +44 71 237 4535
Xexos Ltd fax +44 71 231 0844
London mark@xexos.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nando@ccrma.stanford.edu (Fernando Pablo Lopez Lezcano)
Subject: Re: ALR V-Q 3.2 / 3.1 installation
Message-ID: <1993Nov18.054430.27344@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 05:44:30 GMT
Thanks to Serge J. Goldstein <serge@Princeton.EDU> for the tip. An ALR V-Q
with a DPT SCSI controller is only happy if the firmware revision of the DPT is B or higher. I just got rev C and 3.2 installed perfectly.
Thanks!
-- Fernando
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Megapixel<==>Cube Cable Replacement
Message-ID: <1993Nov17.223054.7553@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <CGMrzn.4J2@csn.org>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 22:30:54 GMT
In article <CGMrzn.4J2@csn.org> mxedisn@teal.csn.org (David C. Whitcombe)
writes:
> Hello all. I have a happy little '040 cube, and the cable between the
cube
> and my megapixel has gone a tad funky. To wit, when jiggled slightly,
> communication (save for the power key) between Keyboard/Mouse and Cube
is
> fungoed. By grabbing the cable and re-jiggling it, I can re-establish
> communication. Is this a straight-through cable?
> If there is anyone who has experienced a similar disability, please let
me
> know.
> I don't read this group near often enough, so if you want to enlighten
me
> on this, email to
> mxedisn@gendep.com, and I'll post results, if there are sufficient ones
to
> warrant use of bandwidth.
>
> -----
> I have no signature file.
> I'm too lazy; I type it each time.
>
> mxedisn@gendep.com -- David Whitcombe, Philosopher, Programmer, Loon.
SUN video cable may works (same style connectors,check for straighness)
but they are shorter and white!
--Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 18 Nov 1993 01:53:25 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2cf653$hl@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Sound on 3.2/Re: Choice of video cards for 3.2/3.1
Message-ID: <1993Nov17.144757.18857@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <2cc05oINNdmo@PYTHON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 14:47:57 GMT
I want to highlight the following query:
In article <2cc05oINNdmo@PYTHON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU>
traupman-jonathan@cs.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman) writes:
>...
> BTW: does anyone know if sound works under 3.2? I'm really sick of
using
> the "System Beep Driver" since my $200 sound card is only good for
system
> crashes.
I notice that 3.2 includes a few more sound options, and a new ISA
scsi board. Who knows... maybe the ProAudio Spectrum has been
improved.
Now that we have more options, maybe we can figure out the source of
poor sound in 3.1... And, please don't tell me it's just an ISA
problem, cause my ISA system supports sound better than a lot of EISA
systems (according to e-mail from people with EISA systems that crash
often; mine has not crashed yet, when playing sound files).
So, let's start testing the new options and here if things have
improved in this area...
Thanks for any new information,
Phil
--
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gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: 1280x1024 Video
Message-ID: <CGoM3s.Azt@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet Limited.
References: <1993Nov18.001834.10521@xexos.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 09:52:39 GMT
In article <1993Nov18.001834.10521@xexos.com> mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
writes:
> In article <1993Nov17.042926.9075@nugget.rmNUG.ORG> scott@corybant.rmnug.org
> (Scott Meyer) writes:
> >
> > I'm trying to put together a PC for NeXTSTEP that will handle
> > 1280x1024 video with 16-bit colors. The 3.2 hardware compatibility
> > guide shows that a DEC MTE d2 with the S3-928 card and 4MB of
> > ram will support that resolution (NEXTSTEP-certified). However,
> > in the section on graphics adapters the S3-928 (Number Nine GXE-VL)
> > supports only 1024x768. Is there any way to get 1280x1024 using
> > an off-the-shelf video card? That failing, what off-the-shelf
> > adapter is most likely to be supported at that resolution in the
> > future?
> >
>
Though it is quite expensive you could try the new MIRO card. It is being
released at comdex and will run under 3.1 and 3.2. It claims support upto
resolution max colours refresh rates
1408x1024 65 536 70Hz
1280x1024 65 536 75Hz
1152x864 65 536 90Hz
1024x768 1.67 million 75/100Hz
Here is their US address
3160 De La Cruz Blvd. Suite 200
Santa Clara, CA 95054
Vox: (408) 727 1558
Fax: (408) 988 2515
--
Regards David Knight
FFC Software and Systems Limited
351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: (44)
0702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: BOOSC@EZINFO.VMSMAIL.ETHZ.CH (Chris Boos)
Subject: Re: Drivers for NE1000 Ethernet Card and Soundblaster for IN
In-Reply-To: joe@FreemanSoft.com's message of Thu, 11 Nov 1993 18:01:19 GMT
Message-ID: <CGorn5.Jx4@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: ETH a school stuck in a dead city
References: <CGC0A5.367@bernina.ethz.ch> <1993Nov11.180119.5382@FreemanSoft.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 11:52:15 GMT
In <1993Nov11.180119.5382@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com writes:
> You can't find them because there are no drivers for either of those
> cards. Its kind of doubtful that there ever will be. I think most of the
> network card effort is being put into the newer 16 bit ethernet cards
> which people tend to put into the higher performing machines. The sound
> card effort is also focusing on the 16 bit side du to bandwidth
> utilization and sound quality issues.
>
Hi...
Well, if I read something like that it makes me think that NeXT will disappear
sooner or later :(( NeXT NEEEDS the PC marked, and on the PC marked people in
general have their computer before they even hear about NeXTSTEP.... So it is
the "workstation" approach to say "the quality here`s not high enough". I'd say
most people don't care too much wether their sound would be full 16 bit
samppled or not. The problem is, they already have the soundblaster or their
ethernet card, and it is most likely that they know the capacities of their
hardware, so it is unlikely that they blame any "bad" performance on
NeXTSTEP...
What do the guys from next say about this general problem on PCs ?
ttyl
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: DEC RZ55 for Cube
Message-ID: <1993Nov18.101917.9243@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <2ce02g$27u@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 10:19:17 GMT
In article <2ce02g$27u@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> devans@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca
(David F Evans) writes:
> I'm trying to use a DEC RZ55 as a sysetem disk and am having problems
> installing 3.0.
> I boot using the CD-ROM Tools disk and while it's looking for CD-ROM
drives
> I get many "sc0: unexpected msg: 1" errors referring to the RZ55. The
> install program eventually boots but when it tries to initialize the
disk it
> complains with a bunch of "incomplete disk transfer" messages and
various
> amounts and residues.
> I don't have the RZ55 manual yet so I'm just using the jumper settings
it
> came wih. If anyone has this manual or advice on what settings to use
(based
> on my detailed information.... ;)) I would be grateful.
>
>
==========================================================================
===
> David Evans
devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
> Computer/Synth Junkie
> University of Guelph "Default is the value selected
by the
> Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your
command."
> - Roland TR-707 Manual
Hi David,
Its connect-disconnect transfer problem.
If you don't have the manual or know how to setup modeselect pages of your
hard disk, you will need Disconnect Killer.
Repost:
Disconnect Killer consist in a 16L8B PAL (programmable array logic) which
prevents the disk to respond as "disconnect capable".
I will send equations, schematics to anybody willing to prototype
Disconnect Killer (Next-Mail of course).
If there enough demand on Disconnect Killer, a complete design can be
made which will include connectors, printed circuit board, programmed pal
etc... either as a kit or plug and play.
Estimated price $30-$50
Fabien
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From: shukin@jester.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NS/IP and ZyXEL Modems
Date: 18 Nov 1993 14:58:08 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <2cg2i0$90j@tribune.usask.ca>
References: <PFP.93Nov15151050@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at> <CGJtuI.Avq@np.com> <1993Nov17.161946.7252@bandw.com>
rick@bandw.com wrote:
: In an article
: <PFP.93Nov15151050@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at>
: pfp@marmeladinger.adv.magwien.gv.at (Peter
: Pflaeging) writes:
: > Has anyone experience in faxing from NS/IP with a ZyXEL
: > modem?
: >
: > Are there products floating around, or is there support
: > in 3.2?
: And Paul Nordstrom (paul@np.com) replied:
: > I am running NS/IP 3.1 and have had nearly perfect success
: > with in- and outbound faxes on my ZyXEL U-1496E. I also use
: > Black & White Software's NXFax product, which I swear by.
: I would like to explain that Paul is one of our beta
: testers. NXFax for Intel is *almost* ready. We expect to
: release in December.
: As you may have heard, the serial driver that came out with
: the first release of NEXTSTEP for Intel was not working
: properly -- this prevented us from running our beta
: program to test that NXFax for Intel was good enough to
: ship. NeXT has since fixed their problem and we have
: nearly completed beta testing -- everything is looking
: good. We are still making a few changes to ensure that the
: product will be trouble-free when shipped.
: There will be prominent net postings when NXFax 1.04 (fat
: binary) is ready, sometime in December.
: If you would like to be added to a list to be notified
: personally when a shipping date for NXFax 1.04 is
: announced, please send a note to nxfax@bandw.com.
: --
: -------------------------------------------------------------
: Rick Damon rick@bandw.com
: Black & White Software NeXTMail OK
: 802-496-8500 (voice) 802-496-5112 (fax)
If your product is in Late Beta, would it be possible to post a list of
compatible modems for It?
Thanks
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______________________________________________________________________________
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSFIP Product Catalog Updated for 3.2 Ready
Date: 18 Nov 1993 15:08:26 GMT
Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX
Message-ID: <2cg35a$87f@inxs.concert.net>
This Catalog has been completed and will go out by different methods
(fax, NeXTmail, snail mail, and ascii email.
It includes NeXT-certified hardware, NeXTSTEP software and related
peripheral products.
Please email me with your preferred method of reception and we will do
our best to insure you receive the Catalog this weekend.
Dave Briggman
Advanced Business Systems
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From: mgilula@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu (Marshall Gilula)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Continuing problems with NXFax software
Date: 18 Nov 1993 10:11:07 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311181610.AA24335@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu>
Reason I never wrote you back is that (you probably know) I quit trying to use the Telebit
with NXFax because (please inform Craig) the software simply does not work with the
Telebit WorldBlazer. NXFax does, however, work pretty well with the Zyxel modem !!!
NXFax is much more elegant than the old Neuron driver, for example.
Tech support at Telebit kindly worked hours and hours with me and spent 10 days checking my
modem and chips (but only on msdos hardware) which proved to be OK. It looks like
NXFax still is not functional for a Telebit device because the software keeps initializing the
modem and erasing any changes that have been made to the S registers. Basically, all
the information you sent me about trying to change the S51 register is permanently "stuck"
at value (S)252 for this reason. In fact, the default value of the S51 register as sent out by
Telebit _is_ (S)252 from what I could tell in working with the Telebit folks...and we really
tried.
I am submitting this letter also to the net *not* to flame B&W, you, or Craig, but hopefully to notify
others that NXFax still doesn't work with the Telebit...perhaps some kind soul who knows otherwise
might tell me what software I have to buy to make my Telebit function. The NXFax simply caused
the Telebit WorldBlazer to not work as a Fax and it also concomitantly partially disabled the
Telebit's ability to work as a data modem when NXFax had been installed. I think it would be
fair to notify the net also that NXFax does not work with a modem other than the Zyxel when it
comes to distinguishing between data and fax calls either, and that both serial ports could not be
used on the same machine unless one has TWO zyxel devices ...
Any information to the contrary or any further information would be gratefully appreciated.
Does B&W have plans to change this situation?
Thanks again for all your kind help!!!!
-73-
---
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mgilula@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu el que busca nada mucho encuentra"
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From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Does the Iomega Insider 150 work with NS/I?
Date: 18 Nov 1993 16:22:21 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2cg7ft$d63@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Does the Iomega Insider 150 work with NS/I? This is a SCSI based removable
150MB drive, and NeXT says it "should" work, but they don't know for sure.
Does anyone actually have one of these working on white hardware? Thanks
very much! Ross.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
From: traupman-jonathan@cs.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 1280x1024 Video
Date: 18 Nov 1993 11:24:58 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Message-ID: <2cg7kqINNar@PYTHON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU>
References: <1993Nov18.001834.10521@xexos.com> <CGoM3s.Azt@demon.co.uk>
In article <CGoM3s.Azt@demon.co.uk> david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk writes:
>
>Though it is quite expensive you could try the new MIRO card. It is being
>released at comdex and will run under 3.1 and 3.2. It claims support upto
>
> resolution max colours refresh rates
>
> 1408x1024 65 536 70Hz
> 1280x1024 65 536 75Hz
> 1152x864 65 536 90Hz
> 1024x768 1.67 million 75/100Hz
Sounds like an amazing piece of equipment. Anyone have NXBench scores for
it? I'm especially interested in getting my window movement to score a
little above the ATI's pitiful .2.
Thanx
Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe)
Subject: Re: 030 sensing
Message-ID: <1993Nov18.170907.11663@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University
References: <1993Nov15.074536.17878@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 17:09:07 GMT
Thanks to several people for the host_info pointer, as well as to the 030
testers. It turns out that my dsp memory sensing program was making
assumptions that don't apply to the 030 board, so I have to check for
the 030 separately. (The reason this came up was that the 4.0 music kit
senses the presence of NeXT's optional 32K DSP SRAM extension and makes
it available to any music kit app. But the sensing (as shipped in the beta
music kit) wasn't working right on 030s. This'll be fixed in the final
4.0 release.)
Anyway, please no more testers!
David Jaffe
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Re: HSD Scanners SCSI Termination
Date: 18 Nov 1993 11:23:43 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311181445.AA22863@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de>
David W. Fahrney writes:
>
> (Stuff deleted)
>
> I confess not to understand one thing: How does a NeXTstation
switch
> in and out the internal controller termination when you add an
external
> device as there are no physical resistor networks to remove and no
> software options that I am aware of to turn it on or off?
>
Now my curiosity awakened, too. First, I thought, maybe they have
some sort of active termination (which doesn't need to be switched
off). To verify this assumption, I opened a NeXTStation, that
happened to be on the next desk. To my surprise, there was absolutely
no evidence off any termination whatsoever on the motherboard! The
53C90 SCSI Processor seems to be directly connected to the drive,
and, through some standard protection circuits, to the external SCSI
connector.
Since the drive, the controller and the external connector are
arranged very close to each other, and therefore should work reliable
with only the drives end terminated, I think, they just skipped the
internal termination to avoid problems with externally connected
devices. That an external scanner without termination works, is just
luck.
That an external scanner should not work, when terminated, is very
odd. In my experience (I have written several scanner drivers) a
unterminated scanner connected to Station or a cube, often works
unreliable, but I never had trouble, when the external device was
terminated. I can only assume, that in your specific case, there
might be some flaw, probably related to the distribution of the
terminator power (which is definitively supplied by the NeXT
Hardware).
Gerd
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Floppy Drive Problem
Date: 18 Nov 1993 11:24:24 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311181516.AA24499@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de>
Andre Cumagun writes:
> I have recently upgraded a 486 machine running NS/Intel from
> 33MHz to a 66MHz. I changed the motherboard but kept all
> other option cards and their settings as is. The floppy drive
> worked fine with the old 33 MHz board but I couldn't get it to
> work with the new 66 MHz. I'm getting a "system panic" with
> the following message : "invalid DMA byte count" whenever I
> try using the the floppy drive -- and the only way to get out
> of this situation is to reboot the machine.
Quite a while ago I had the same symptoms, and I ended up in
replacing the Multi-I/O-Board (about 25$), it seemed to be to slow
for teh specific machine (but worked on others).
gerti
From: scwg0600@ih-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven C Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does the Iomega Insider 150 work with NS/I?
Date: 18 Nov 1993 17:54:43 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2cgct3$2fa@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <2cg7ft$d63@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
In article <2cg7ft$d63@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross
Garrett Cutler) writes:
> Does the Iomega Insider 150 work with NS/I? This is a SCSI based
removable
> 150MB drive, and NeXT says it "should" work, but they don't know for
sure.
> Does anyone actually have one of these working on white hardware?
Thanks
> very much! Ross.
As a matter of fact, I'm also interested in Bernoulli drive compatibliity,
albeit for black hw. If I mount a Bernoulli external 150MB removable, can
i format some cartridges in Mac format and the rest as NeXT format? or
does the whole drive have to be given a single format? See, the color
service bureau I work with is a Mac-based operation, abnd i need to give
them my output on Mac media. This might be a good storage alternative,
too. And the price is right - right now Iomega's gunning for market share,
and the service bureau (also a VAR) is running an incredible deal: buy a
5-pack of Bernoulli 150MB cartridges for $495.00, and they'll throw in the
drive for free!!!
Steve Weintz
scwg0600@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: re: HELP: CD player problem
Date: 18 Nov 1993 12:04:36 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311181748.AA02583@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de>
Zhouhong Joel Shi writes:
> I read some posters about the CD player. I have some problems with
> my CD player too. My CD-ROM also can read data but not audio. As
> suggested, I put /usr/lib/kern_loader/Audio/audio_reloc
> into /etc/kern_loader.conf
> and reboot the system, the autio filesystem has been installed. But
> when I run cd player, it is said that my CD-Driver can not found.
> and from the console, I got following error message:
try this from a Terminal, logged in as root:
/usr/etc/chown root.wheel /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer
/bin/chmod 6755 /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer
That should do it.
gerti
From: terry_marrs@wiltel.com(Terry Marrs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Sound on 3.2/Re: Choice of video cards for 3.2/3.1
Date: 18 Nov 1993 18:27:52 GMT
Organization: WilTel
Message-ID: <2cger8$8gd@gateway.wiltel.com>
References: <1993Nov17.144757.18857@Princeton.EDU>
> Now that we have more options, maybe we can figure out the source
of
> poor sound in 3.1... And, please don't tell me it's just an ISA
> problem, cause my ISA system supports sound better than a lot of
EISA
> systems (according to e-mail from people with EISA systems that
crash
> often; mine has not crashed yet, when playing sound files).
>
> So, let's start testing the new options and here if things have
> improved in this area...
Sound with the ProAudio Spectrum seems to work just fine in v3.2. I
have not tried to record, but that's a minor issue(that's my opinion,
it's probably a major issue for some).
--
|Terry Marrs
|terry_marrs@wiltel.com
|WilTel | NeXTmail OK
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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From: rawyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: Logitech Radio Mouse
Message-ID: <rawyattCGp52G.Dxz@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 16:42:16 GMT
Is anyone out there using a Logitech Radio Mouse with NEXTSTEP???
Just curious...
-Rob
rawyatt@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bob@anasazi.com (Bob Carroll)
Subject: White (DEC MTE) question
Organization: Anasazi, Inc. Phoenix, Arizona USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 17:51:43 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Nov18.175143.5778@anasazi.com>
Sender: usenet@anasazi.com (Usenet News)
Hi,
I'm thinking about getting a DEC MTE system (S3-928 video) for NextStep
and was curious about the monitors DEC is trying to sell with them (17"
Philips?, 19" ???).
[I do plan on calling back and asking for the technical specs.]
Does anyone have such a subspecies of White Hardware ?
Does anyone know anything about these "DEC" monitors ?
Should I tell them to "stuff the monitor" and get a NEC/Viewsonic/Nanao 21" ?
Thanks for any information.
--
bob@anasazi.com
Robert Carroll
Anasazi, Inc. 7500 North Dreamy Draw Drive, Suite 120 Phoenix, Az 85020 USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tkao@IASTATE.EDU (Tsun-Ming Kao)
Subject: PAS & NS
Message-ID: <1993Nov18.141725@IASTATE.EDU>
Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 20:17:25 GMT
Has anyone installed NS from ProAudio Spectrum?
I was told that I can install it through my PAS
SCSI interface, but after I've got my NS, I was
told I couldn't. Is there a driver available now?
Will 3.2 support it?
Any help will be appreciated.
--
Daniel Kao
tkao@iastate.edu
From: diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx (Diego Martin Zamboni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can I use a Texel DM-3024 CD-ROM with NS?
Date: 18 Nov 1993 21:30:29 GMT
Organization: UNIVERSIDAD NACIONAL AUTONOMA DE MEXICO
Message-ID: <2cgphl$o16@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Hi:
Has anybody succesfully used the Texel DM-3024 CD-ROM with NS/FIP?
Any comments or suggestions?
Thanks a lot.
--
*************************************************************************
* Diego Martin Zamboni * Depto. de Administracion de Supercomputo *
* diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx * D.G.S.C.A., UNAM, Mexico. *
* (132.248.204.8) * *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: darius@northstar.com (Darius Babanoury)
Subject: NeXTSTEP, portables, & screen size
Message-ID: <CGpHnG.DHu@northstar.com>
Summary: Can portables support high res on ext. mon.
Keywords: NeXTSTEP, portables, screen size
Organization: Northstar Technologies, Inc.
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 21:14:04 GMT
Hi, I need to find out a little bit of information. Which portables, if any,
when directly connected to an external monitor, can work in resolutions
of 1024x768 or better. Does not matter if it is in color, grayscale or
black & white, just need the space. My company is planning to do a
presentation and it would be real nice to be able to walk in, plop
down the portable, plug it in to a monitor, and go.
thanks,
darius
--
Darius Babanoury | Of such a time as this
System Administrator | the proverb speaks:
NorthStar Technologies, Inc. | this, too, shall pass.
darius@northstar.com | - Shiei
From: diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx (Diego Martin Zamboni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Has anybody used NS on an Ambra Pentium?
Date: 18 Nov 1993 22:32:01 GMT
Organization: UNIVERSIDAD NACIONAL AUTONOMA DE MEXICO
Message-ID: <2cgt51$sde@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Hi:
I keep on my search for the Pentium machine of my dreams to use
NS on it :) I was almost decided for the ALR Evolution V-Q (I still am),
when I stumbled across a machine that, in the specs, is almost to good to
be true: the Ambra DP60E/VL and TP60E/VL. Has anybody used them with
NEXTSTEP? In Computer Shopper I read they use an Adaptec 7770 SCSI
controller. Is it compatible with NS?
I'm also open to suggestions about other Pentium systems that
somebody has succesfully used with NS. I want an EISA/VESA machine.
Comments, anyone?
Thanks a lot.
--
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* Diego Martin Zamboni * Depto. de Administracion de Supercomputo *
* diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx * D.G.S.C.A., UNAM, Mexico. *
* (132.248.204.8) * *
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From: low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu (Richard Low)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Best Intel box for NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <23940@news.duke.edu>
Date: 18 Nov 93 23:06:00 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Is there any consensus as to the current favorite Intel box to use for a user
workstation? We will be deploying 15 or so workstations at the point-of-care
and I am looking for a good low profile workstation with the following
requirements:
2MB Local Bus Color Hi-Res Video (1024 x 768 or better)
16MB RAM (24MB if really necessary for color)
~350MB hard disk (IDE is OK)
Low profile & low noise desktop case
17" Color monitor
Sound is not required but we'd use it if available
Needless to say, we want a machine that runs NEXTSTEP without any glitches.
Thanks,
---
Richard Low
Clinical Development Group
Duke University Medical Center
Box 3900, Durham, NC 27710
low00001@mc.duke.edu
(919)286-6362
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Test suite for SCSI disk drives
Date: 19 Nov 1993 01:33:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ch7ot$m8t@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
I have the opportunity to compare a new 1.2 GB Micropolis drive on NeXT
hardware for a couple of weeks. I'll be comparing it with my DEC DSP3105
for noise, speed, heat output, etc. Can anyone suggest a test suite that
will provide a valid speed comparison?
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley)
Subject: Re: Intel GX/Pro no longer certified
Message-ID: <scratch.753693850@alcor.sce.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <2cb4ia$3g0@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 07:24:10 GMT
ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
>Does anyone know if NeXT is trying to drop Intel GX/Pro systems? They
>slipped from "certified" to "listed." (Also,the GX/Pro graphics mode only
>has 1024*768 listed. I had hoped that NeXT was working on a 1280*1024 mode
>for these ATIs.)
There is now a new NeXTanswer for the Intel GX. It seems that
NeXT has not yet themselves tested version 3.2. The NeXTanswer
lists 1280*1024 as working.
--
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Dept. of Systems and Computer Engineering | phone: (613) 788-5740 (Dept.)
Carleton University | (613) 241-6952 (Home)
Ottawa, ON, CANADA K1S 5B6 | fax: (613) 788-5727 (Dept.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley)
Subject: Is Seagate ST3550a firmware update required for NS 3.2 for intel.
Message-ID: <scratch.753694272@alcor.sce.carleton.ca>
Summary: NS 3.1 requires firmware update. Does NS 3.2 too?
Keywords: Seagate ST3550a firmware update NS3.2
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 07:31:12 GMT
Hi. NeXTanswer 1328 (Sept. 1993) states that a firmware update
is required to use a Seagate ST3550a drive with NeXTSTEP 3.1.
Is this update required for NS 3.2 too?
Thanks.
Craig
--
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Dept. of Systems and Computer Engineering | phone: (613) 788-5740 (Dept.)
Carleton University | (613) 241-6952 (Home)
Ottawa, ON, CANADA K1S 5B6 | fax: (613) 788-5727 (Dept.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Megapixel<==>Cube Cable Replacement
Message-ID: <1993Nov19.081000.5205@urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 08:10:00 GMT
Sender: news@urz.unibas.ch (USENET News System)
References: <1993Nov17.223054.7553@free.fdn.org>
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik
In article <1993Nov17.223054.7553@free.fdn.org> writes:
> In article <CGMrzn.4J2@csn.org> mxedisn@teal.csn.org (David C. Whitcombe)
> writes:
> > Hello all. I have a happy little '040 cube, and the cable between the
> cube
> > and my megapixel has gone a tad funky. To wit, when jiggled slightly,
> > communication (save for the power key) between Keyboard/Mouse and Cube
> is
> > fungoed. By grabbing the cable and re-jiggling it, I can re-establish
> > communication. Is this a straight-through cable?
> > If there is anyone who has experienced a similar disability, please let
> me
> > know.
> > I don't read this group near often enough, so if you want to enlighten
> me
> > on this, email to
> > mxedisn@gendep.com, and I'll post results, if there are sufficient ones
> to
> > warrant use of bandwidth.
> >
> > -----
> > I have no signature file.
> > I'm too lazy; I type it each time.
> >
> > mxedisn@gendep.com -- David Whitcombe, Philosopher, Programmer, Loon.
>
> SUN video cable may works (same style connectors,check for straighness)
> but they are shorter and white!
>
>
> --Fabien
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted)
> Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering
> 3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France,
> Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
No! Definitely not! Not the same connectors, not the same wiring!
BUT: if you can solder and can get the 19pin connectors of the NeXT, you
can make you own cables. I used standard video cables plus two plain wires
for the 12V posersupply - no problems - even at 5metres.
The pin-outs are described in the Users's Reference Guide.
The cable needs at least one shielded 50Ohm cable for the video signal.
I also used a 50Ohm shielded cable for the vsync and hsync and normal audio
shielded cables for the data and clock lines. Standard video cables meet
all these requirements.
Robert
--
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Institut fuer Informatik fax +41 (0)61 321 99 15
University of Basel, Switzerland
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail ok)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hal@niftyneato.com(Hal Fox-Palmer)
Subject: PPD for NEC 1097
Message-ID: <1993Nov19.041847.17755@niftyneato.com>
Keywords: nec ppd
Sender: hal@niftyneato.com
Organization: Hal's phony Co.
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 04:18:47 GMT
does anyone have a PPD for the new NEC 1097 (600dpi) printer, and can you
send me a copy- THANKS
--
Hal Fox-Palmer [] hal@niftyneato.com
Nifty Neato Productions [] NeXTmail welcome
Oakland, CA []
--
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Nifty Neato Productions [] NeXTmail welcome
Oakland, CA []
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rick@bandw.com
Subject: Re: Continuing problems with NXFax software
Message-ID: <1993Nov19.142611.12907@bandw.com>
Organization: Black & White Software
References: <9311181610.AA24335@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 14:26:11 GMT
I have already replied to Marshall by mail, but would like
to clear up a few of his points here.
The Telebits can be tricky to get working the first time,
once things are configured correctly they work fine.
This is due to some anomolies in the way they autobaud,
which can make it difficult for programs to communicate
with them at different speeds. NXFax always uses the
highest possible speed, 38,400 bps. If someone has a UUCP
configuration, for instance, at another speed it is
sometimes difficult for NXFax to get the modem to
recognize characters sent at 38400. I don't think it's
correctly to say that they "don't work with NXFax," as we
have quite a few customers using them happily.
I'm not sure why Marshall says "The NXFax simply caused
the Telebit WorldBlazer to not work as a Fax and it also
concomitantly partially disabled the Telebit's
ability to work as a data modem when NXFax had been
installed." You can set up the Telebit, for instance, to
receive faxes and send faxes and data. The only
limitation is that you can not have it receiving both data
and fax automatically, as the Telebit WorldBlazer does
not support adaptive answering (data/fax detection).
But even with this set up is is simply a click of a
preferences button to change from fax to date reception.
It is true that at the present time you can not have two
modems controlled by NXFax and configured
independantly. But you can have two different modems, or
two non-ZyXEL modems.
> I think it would be fair to notify the net also that NXFax
> does not work with a modem other than the Zyxel when it
> comes to distinguishing between data and fax calls
> either,...
NXFax 1.03 added support for both the Telebit
WorldBlazer and the SupraFAX modems. The Telebit, as I
mentioned above, can not do the data/fax detection. The
Supra does have this feature. We have had a lot of
customers who had problems with this feature on the Supra
modems, but I belive that has improved greatly with their
recent firmware upgrade.
With our upcoming release of NXFax 1.04 we will be adding
support for another half-dozen modems or more. Most of
them contain support for data/fax detection. But it will
take some time with them being used before we know how well
they preform. We have decided to continue to sell only the
ZyXEL modems at this time, as they have proven to be so
reliable, and the company has been very responsive.
I hope this clears things up, rather than confuses the
issue.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Damon rick@bandw.com
Black & White Software NeXTMail OK
802-496-8500 (voice) 802-496-5112 (fax)
From: shukin@duke.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can I use a Texel DM-3024 CD-ROM with NS?
Date: 19 Nov 1993 16:04:11 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <2ciqpr$do5@tribune.usask.ca>
References: <2cgphl$o16@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Diego Martin Zamboni (diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx) wrote:
: Hi:
: Has anybody succesfully used the Texel DM-3024 CD-ROM with NS/FIP?
: Any comments or suggestions?
: Thanks a lot.
: --
: *************************************************************************
: * Diego Martin Zamboni * Depto. de Administracion de Supercomputo *
: * diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx * D.G.S.C.A., UNAM, Mexico. *
: * (132.248.204.8) * *
: *************************************************************************
I have used the Texel 3024 with 3.1! I have a Bus Logic 542b ISA SCSI
Card and it works very well with NeXTstep.
BTW: There is a new Texel Drive out now (3028). It is much faster due
to its bigger buffer.
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| |\ | |_ \/ | step
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Voice: (306) 933-6415 | NeXTMail--> shukin@siast.sk.ca
Internet addresses: shukin@doc.siast.sk.ca OR shukin@jester.usask.ca
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From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Where do I get the Intel Pro/GX SCSI Driver for 3.2
Date: 19 Nov 1993 16:32:57 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2cisfp$605@fermat.mayo.edu>
in NeXTAnswers posting 1209 NeXT writes....
>The Intel GX Professional displays at a resolution of1024 x 768
This is noted as being obsolete a couple of paragraphs down...
>in16 bit color under NEXTSTEP. The computer offers a high degree
>of built-in integration including video (the ATI Mach 32 chip
>set), sound, SCSI, and IDE. The integrated sound and SCSI are
>supported under NEXTSTEP Release 3.2. On-board SCSI is supported
>by a third party driver.
Who and how do I get this yet-to-be-named 3rd party driver? It's not
in the Compatibility Guide nor in this NeXTanswer...
Thanks
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- Geoff
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Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: n9240566@fozzie.cc.wwu.edu (Leif E. Harrison)
Subject: 040 cube serial port data rate
Message-ID: <n9240566.753727469@fozzie>
Summary: Need to know serial port data rate for 040 NeXT Cube
Keywords: 040 NeXT Cube serial port data rate
Sender: news@henson.cc.wwu.edu (USENET-WWU)
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: 19 Nov 93 16:44:29 GMT
I'm looking into purchasing a high speed (14.4K or so) modem for my
NeXT cube in the near future. However, I'm also looking into upgrading
to the 68040 CPU board (currently it's an 030). I was going to get the
TTYDSP product to hang the modem off of with my 030 cube but am unsure if
it would be needed with an 040 cube.
Does an 040 cube support data rates of 14.4K and up?
I'm trying to save money wherever possible...
Thanks in advance,
Leif Harrison
n9240566@henson.cc.wwu.edu
rexfelis@bailey.cpac.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bell@balata.nosc.mil (Thomas Bell)
Subject: Re: Can I use a Texel DM-3024 CD-ROM with NS?
Message-ID: <1993Nov19.171634.15781@nosc.mil>
Keywords: CD, Nextstep
Sender: usenet@nosc.mil (Network News)
Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA
References: <2cgphl$o16@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 17:16:34 GMT
In article <2cgphl$o16@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx (Diego
Martin Zamboni) writes:
> Hi:
> Has anybody succesfully used the Texel DM-3024 CD-ROM with NS/FIP?
> Any comments or suggestions?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> --
> *************************************************************************
> * Diego Martin Zamboni * Depto. de Administracion de Supercomputo *
> * diego@ds5000.dgsca.unam.mx * D.G.S.C.A., UNAM, Mexico. *
> * (132.248.204.8) * *
> ************************************************************************
I have a Texel DM-3024 and it works great with Nextstep. When I bought one
several months ago I had to order an upgrade ROM to make the drive
multi-session and photo-cd capable. The upgrade cost was about $15 (US). The
Texel CD-ROMs on the shelf today may already have the upgrade. Either way
you'll want to make sure that it is multi-session and photo-cd ready. Here's
Texel's phone number if you want more info (408) 980-1838.
Tom Bell
NCCOSC RDTE DIV
bell@nosc.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dhinz@newsit.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com (David Hinz)
Subject: Problems with Etherlink III?
Message-ID: <CGqzq1.4tD@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>
Keywords: ethernet
Sender: news@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com (IT Netnews)
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 16:42:01 GMT
Has anyone had any trouble using the 3COM Etherlink III ethernet card with NS 3.1
We can't get to the rest of our network, we can ping ourselves, and the tranceiver lights indicate that packets are going out (possibly), but no response from the network. We have used the install disk for the ethernet card to make sure the addresses and IRQ's are correct.
Any pointers?
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~ Email: dhinz@da_vinci.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com ~
~ Phone: (303) 592-6467 ~
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Sender: peterb@sibyl (Peter Bouvier)
From: peterb@sibyl.saic.com (Peter Bouvier)
Distribution: world
Followup-To:
Organization: SAI Technology, San Diego, CA
Subject: NS work on IBM Thinkpad ISA HD?
Keywords:
Message-ID: <17694344@MVB.SAIC.COM>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 18:32:12 GMT
Anyone running NeXTSETP.Intel on an IBM Thinkpad? Does NS run from
an IDE HD (320MB)?
Thanks in advance,
pb
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rick@bandw.com
Subject: Re: NS/IP and ZyXEL Modems
Message-ID: <1993Nov19.203437.1037@bandw.com>
Organization: B&W Software
References: <CGJtuI.Avq@np.com> <1993Nov17.161946.7252@bandw.com> <2cg2i0$90j@tribune.usask.ca>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 93 20:34:37 GMT
> If your product is in Late Beta, would it be possible to
> post a list of compatible modems for It?
Although we are testing with quite a few modems, we're
still not ready to commit to which ones we will officially
support. I think this will have to wait until we announce
the release itself.
--
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Rick Damon rick@bandw.com
Black & White Software NeXTMail OK
802-496-8500 (voice) 802-496-5112 (fax)
From: shukin@duke.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 040 cube serial port data rate
Date: 19 Nov 1993 22:07:13 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <2cjg2h$1eh@tribune.usask.ca>
References: <n9240566.753727469@fozzie>
Leif E. Harrison (n9240566@fozzie.cc.wwu.edu) wrote:
: I'm looking into purchasing a high speed (14.4K or so) modem for my
: NeXT cube in the near future. However, I'm also looking into upgrading
: to the 68040 CPU board (currently it's an 030). I was going to get the
: TTYDSP product to hang the modem off of with my 030 cube but am unsure if
: it would be needed with an 040 cube.
: Does an 040 cube support data rates of 14.4K and up?
: I'm trying to save money wherever possible...
: Thanks in advance,
: Leif Harrison
: n9240566@henson.cc.wwu.edu
: rexfelis@bailey.cpac.washington.edu
I had asked the same question and this is the response I got:
==================== Begin Forwarded message =============================
From jpainter@beta.tricity.wsu.edu Thu Nov 18 01:53:42 1993
I just received my 14.4 data fax modem today. I tried out the fax capibilities
to my fax at work. In fax setup, I created a Interfax entry. I think it is
working ok. I'll know tomorrow when I pick up the fax at work.
Right now I am dialing in at 57,600 baud. My machine is a NeXTstation 25Mhz.
I purchased the modem from Macwarehouse but Microwarehouse had the same modem
for the same price too. I received Mac software from Macwarehouse. You
should get Dos software from Microwarehouse.
Here is the features:
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
>Subject: Free modem?? $99 modem! FAQ (Was: $99 linelink modem ordering info)
>Date: 14 Oct 1993 20:53:05 -0500
>Here's a synopsis of what people have been saying about the MacWarehouse
>price breakthru 14.4k modem for $99.
>
..
>Where to get it:
>The $99 LineLink 144e fax modem (available from MacWarehouse, tel.
>800-255-6227, as part number BND 0249 for $99 plus $3 shipping, external
>type, suitable for Macintosh, complete with all cables and power supply)...
>There is no FaxFACTS number for the modem. You probably need to FAX their
>order line 1-908-905-9279 for more information
>
>Availability:
>The manufacturer told me they ship modems to MacWarehouse every day.
..
>Specs:
>Data Speeds
> 300 bps/CCITT v.21 and Bell <? smudged>
> 1200 bps/CCITT v.22 and Bell <? smudged>
> 3400 bps/CCITT v.22bis
> 9600 bps/CCITT v.32
> 14,400 bps/CCITT v.32bis
>Data Compression
> CCITT v.42bis
> MNP-5 for 3:1
>Error Correction
> CCITT v.42 (LAP-M)
> MNP-4
>Operation
> Full or half duplex
>Dialing
> Rotary or touch-tone compatible
><?smudge> Commands
> Hayes AT commands set
>Elsewhere on the fax it says "v.42bis and v.42 also automatically include
>MNP levels 1-5 for backward compatibility with the installed base of MNP
modems."
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From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need DAT data backup recommendation
Date: 20 Nov 1993 02:12:17 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <2cjue1$gqs@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Keywords: DAT tape backup
I have been told that a good buy is the Exabyte 4200C DAT backup device, which
sells for about $1200 from Peripheral Solutions. Has anyone had experience
with this unit? Does it perform up to specifications? Does the software
they provide work well on a NeXT 040? Is there a better deal? We are running
OS 2.1, but may upgrade soon to 3.0 or 3.1.
Thanks much for your response.
Jim Beauchamp
From: igerard@jerry.ina.fr (Gerard Iglesias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sound driver for Intel GX PRO
Date: 19 Nov 1993 15:48:19 GMT
Organization: INA
Message-ID: <2cips3$h4q@wolfy.ina.fr>
I have not ever seen about the new sound driver for The Interl GX Pro
system in the NeXTAnswer Index. But I have read that it exists.
Who have any info on it?
Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: PCI Graphics Cards??
Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Organization: EPS
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 08:05:22 GMT
Message-ID: <steve.12.000016F4@eps.rain.com>
Does anyone have any news on PCI video boards for 3.2?? THe compatability list
only shows the ATI ATO not availble until 1st quarter 94..
-steve
From: paul@pri.com (Paul Tognato-Haddad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Harddrives for station. (YET ONE MORE POST)
Date: 20 Nov 1993 11:58:19 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2cl0or$68n@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
Keywords: harddrives
Howdy,
Yes, I do know this gets asked every month or so, but here we go again.
I'm considering 1.0 gig drives for my NeXTstation. I'm looking for
something <= $900.00
Here's a few possibilities I have so far.
Micropolis MC2112S
Quantum PRO1050
Fujitsu M2694ESA
Are there any problems with these drives or are they plug and play? How
about speed, i.e. which one is faster? Who sells these for the least
amount of money? And finally does any one have any suggestions for other
drives around the same price range?
I'm also looking for a case for whichever of the above I get and an old
Micropolis 1578. I'll probably get some type of P.C. tower case and I was
wondering how big of a power supply I should get. Is 250 Watts
sufficient?
Thanx,
--
Paul (NeXTmail preferred)
# Paul R. Tognato-Haddad
From: ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is changing hor. refresh rate possible?
Date: 20 Nov 1993 12:50:53 +0100
Organization: Hack-Tic, networking for the masses
Message-ID: <2cl0bbINN1ks@xs4all.hacktic.nl>
I'm currently upgrading my system to NeXTstep/Intel capable, and now trying
to find a suitable monitor. Because I don't have too much money to invest,
I thought 19" B&W would be nice, and even found one from a local surplus
store.
Now there is one problem - the NeXTanswer for ATI Ultra Pro (I'm going to buy
one) says that the horizontal refresh rate for 1280x1024 is 63.8kHz, and the
monitor I am going to buy can do only 61.9kHz. Nasty.
I would like to know if it is somehow possible to lower the frequency, or
do other cards that have drivers for NeXTstep (like Cirrus Logic or S3-928)
support lower hor. refresh rates for resolution 1280x1024.
I know it is possible to get the monitor working with ATI Ultra Pro with
that resolution - I have seen it done under XFree86 and it works fine. But
I still would like to have NeXTstep...
Thanks for any information.
Petri
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From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Logitech Radio Mouse
Message-ID: <CGsIGu.4DD@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet Limited.
References: <rawyattCGp52G.Dxz@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 12:24:29 GMT
In article <rawyattCGp52G.Dxz@netcom.com> rawyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt)
writes:
> Is anyone out there using a Logitech Radio Mouse with NEXTSTEP???
>
> Just curious...
>
> -Rob
> rawyatt@netcom.com
Yep, it works fine
--
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FFC Software and Systems Limited
351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
From: denis@quartz.tucson.az.us (denis norton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.multimedia,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Next- Video-ScreenMachine II
Date: 20 Nov 1993 17:45:14 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group
Message-ID: <2cll3a$bsp@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
Does anyone have experience with ScreenMachine II?
--
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From: denis@quartz.tucson.az.us (denis norton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Next- Video-ScreenMachine II
Date: 20 Nov 1993 17:46:35 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group
Message-ID: <2cll5r$buq@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
Does anyone have experience with ScreenMachine II?
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jimbo@oingo.umn.edu
Subject: What do you do when??
Message-ID: <CGt74t.KoB@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 21:14:20 GMT
What do you do when you NeXTStation mother board fries?? Mine hasn't
but, I have had other computers that did. Can you get another one?
Or is that a sign that its time to move to WHITE??
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jimbo@oingo.umn.edu (SLIP)
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From: enyaw@quark.uucp (Wayne Simila-Dickinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Which FAX/Modems supported for NeXT?
Message-ID: <znr753755127k@quark.uucp>
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 93 00:25:27 GMT
References: <1993Nov17.095135.5760@free.fdn.org>
Organization: Wayne's World (hiz home)
In article <1993Nov17.095135.5760@free.fdn.org> fabien@free.fr writes:
>
> In article <2cbcqc$9ga@gap.cco.caltech.edu> tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis
> Lancaster) writes:
> >
> > I would like to be able send and receive FAXes on my NeXT. Which
> > FAX/Modems are supported for the NeXT? Is there any software that
> > is needed?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Tal Lancaster
>
> SupraFaxModem + NXFax is a good choice.
> There is also Zyxel Fax which I think is more expensive.
>
> NXFax: contact Linda Rosen <linda@bandw.com>.
> SupraFaxModem: any Mac or PC supplyer.
I've got a Supra (V1.8 of ROM {newest}) and NXFax. In general this is a
good solution; however, adaptive answer doesn't work. Supra says it's
NXFax and Black and White software says it's the modem.
I can't tell you who's at fault but adaptive answer does work w/the
Zyxel (I have a friend w/one) and the people at B&W were more responsive
on this problem. They even offered to talk to the people at Supra (if
Supra wanted to contact them).
Adaptive answer isn't critical to me so I'm VERY happy w/my current
solution (the Supra was $100 less than a Zyxel).
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more later.
-Wayne
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From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Anyone try to put a Quantum LPS525S hard disk in their Cube?
Message-ID: <espritCGt79A.Ks4@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 21:19:57 GMT
I just bought a Quantum LPS525S 525 Meg SCSI hard disk and I am trying to
install it in my NeXT '030. Has anyone successfully done this before? Is
this one of those disks that do not work on an '030? Any hints?
Has anyone put the Maxtor 540 Meg HD in their Cube?
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From: devans@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (David F Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Connect/Disconnect Settings
Date: 21 Nov 1993 04:57:39 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2cmsg3$m73@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
OK. This is my continuing saga of getting my RZ-55 to work on my cube. I
can finally muck with the connect/disconnect settings (using "rzdisk" on an
Ultrix system) but am not sure what values I should use for Bus idle timeout,
buffer full ratio, and buffer empty ratio. Their defaults are 5, 72, and 72
respectively and it doesn't work (incomplete disk transfer messages, etc.) The
only working NeXT disk I have access to doesn't have a page 2 at all, so I can't
grab the info from it.
Help would be appreciated, even if it's in the form of a description of what
these parameters do.
=============================================================================
David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK)
University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the
Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command."
- Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca (Dennis S. Breckenridge)
Subject: Re: Problems with Etherlink III?
Keywords: ethernet
References: <CGqzq1.4tD@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>
Organization: "Alchemy Mindworks"
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 14:49:25 GMT
Message-ID: <CGsp6K.L3x@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>
dhinz@newsit.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com (David Hinz) writes:
>Has anyone had any trouble using the 3COM Etherlink III ethernet card with NS 3.1
>We can't get to the rest of our network, we can ping ourselves, and the tranceiver lights indicate that packets are going out (possibly), but no response from the network. We have used the install disk for the ethernet card to make sure the addresses and IRQ's are correct.
I have tried to get one running here to no avail. I can get the machine to
come up on the wire, but as soon as I start passing network traffic over it
the machine panics. It sounds like your netmask/ip address is set incorrectly.
I ended up using niload/nidump to properly set up the network config. It did
not work correctly with SimpleNetworkStarter. Let me know how you make out.
--
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dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca natural selection of UNIX.
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From: guitar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Evan Schofer)
Subject: Help with Quantum ELS170S
Message-ID: <1993Nov21.055406.14553@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 05:54:06 GMT
Hello!
I'm trying to initialize a QUANTUM ELS170S on a NextStation. The
disk was originally formatted as a Macintosh disk, and could be read
by my next. However, attempts to initialize/build it as a NeXT
disk have failed with the following errors. (listed below)
How can I initialize this disk? Also, I hope to use the disk on
a macintosh in the future. Will formatting it for my NeXT make it
unformattable on a mac?
Thanks much for any tips,
Evan Schofer
guitar@leland.stanford.edu
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BuildDisk: Starting build at Sat Nov 20 21:42:51 1993...
disk name: QUANTUM ELS170S
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
writing disk label
sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 1
sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 2
sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 3
sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 4
sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 5
sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 6
sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 7
sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 8
sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 9
sd2: Incomplete disk transfer - FATAL
...r/w returned -1; expected 50176
Write of boot block 1 failed
No boot blocks on disk
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Help with new NeXTDimension Board
Message-ID: <CGruus.tL@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <PJS.93Nov17123856@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1993 03:54:28 GMT
In article <PJS.93Nov17123856@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
pjs@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) writes:
#I just got an ND board, but no documentation. I'm still waiting for
#the monitor cable to arrive, but in the meantime I have a couple of
#questions.
#
#1) Is there some command similar to hostinfo, which will tell me the
#status of the board and how much memory is on the board?
I'm not sure about a command.
THe boot log will tell you how much ram.
#
#2) Alternatively, is there some way to tell by looking at the 72-pin
#Simms what size they are?
#
#3) Exactly what are the input jacks? The one looks like S-video, but
#the others labelled A and B could be audio, video, or who knows
#what...
3 input jacks - 1. S-Video and 2-Composite
#
#4) Do I need to do anything to activate the board aside from plugging
#it into slot 2? I don't see any sign of it in the monitor during
#bootup, is that because I don't yet have the monitor connected (due to
#lack of cable)?
Lack of a load on the ND will keep the driver fom being loaded.
Once you get a cable and monitor, it should be plug and play.
I got my ND about 3 months ago. It's great.
Kent
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From: smg@orb.com ("Samuel M. Goldberger")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Unmouse with ADB?
Date: 21 Nov 1993 08:15:31 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2cn833$gou@nntp.crl.com>
A customer of mine who is handicapped and cannot use either mouse or trackball
has been trying to connect an ADB UnMouse (kind of like a little pressure
sensitive graphics tablet) to his Turbo Cube. Has anyone been succesful in
using this device? It doesn't work on his machine as is, and doesn't even
register as an ADB device during boot.
Email or posted help would be much appreciated.
--
Samuel M. Goldberger/smg@orb.com
Spherical Solutions
47 Myrtle Avenue
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-383-2919--voice
415-381-9556--fax
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Sound driver for Intel GX PRO
Message-ID: <1993Nov21.113503.18044@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <2cips3$h4q@wolfy.ina.fr>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 11:35:03 GMT
In article <2cips3$h4q@wolfy.ina.fr> igerard@jerry.ina.fr (Gerard
Iglesias) writes:
> I have not ever seen about the new sound driver for The Interl GX Pro
> system in the NeXTAnswer Index. But I have read that it exists.
>
> Who have any info on it?
>
> Thanks
Standard in NEXTSTEP release 3.2.
Fabien
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From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel GX/Pro no longer certified
Date: 21 Nov 1993 18:44:47 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2cocuv$fnt@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <2cb4ia$3g0@news.mic.ucla.edu> <scratch.753693850@alcor.sce.carleton.ca>
Good lord. I have had trouble installing NS on wholly certified computers.
In fact, I bought the GX/Pro after I realized that NeXT support would be
helpful only if I had a completely "kosher" system.
Has anyone else installed NS 3.2 on an Intel GX/Pro? Are there any problems
one should be aware of?
/ivo
Craig Scratchley (scratch@sce.carleton.ca) wrote:
: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
: >Does anyone know if NeXT is trying to drop Intel GX/Pro systems? They
: >slipped from "certified" to "listed." (Also,the GX/Pro graphics mode only
: >has 1024*768 listed. I had hoped that NeXT was working on a 1280*1024 mode
: >for these ATIs.)
: There is now a new NeXTanswer for the Intel GX. It seems that
: NeXT has not yet themselves tested version 3.2. The NeXTanswer
: lists 1280*1024 as working.
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From: jkim@panix.com (Joachim Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Next vs Sun in MIPS
Date: 21 Nov 1993 11:07:38 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <2co3oa$k10@panix.com>
Summary: Sun vs Next MIPS
Keywords: Next Sun mips
What is the (rough) mips comparison between Sun and Next
workstations? For example, is a NextCube roughly equivalent
to a SparcStation 1+, 2?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: PCI Graphics Cards??
Message-ID: <CGtF5K.59C@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <steve.12.000016F4@eps.rain.com>
Distribution: all
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 00:10:31 GMT
In article <steve.12.000016F4@eps.rain.com> steve@eps.rain.com (Steve
Kornreich) writes:
> Does anyone have any news on PCI video boards for 3.2?? THe
compatability list
> only shows the ATI ATO not availble until 1st quarter 94..
> -steve
>
It seems to be, that the news MIRO Crystal Card works as PCI-Version
with NeXTStep. Ask your local dealer
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From: devans@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (David F Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help with Quantum ELS170S
Date: 21 Nov 1993 19:43:22 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2cogcq$q2i@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
References: <1993Nov21.055406.14553@leland.Stanford.EDU>
In article <1993Nov21.055406.14553@leland.Stanford.EDU> Evan Schofer (guitar@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
:>Hello!
:> I'm trying to initialize a QUANTUM ELS170S on a NextStation. The
:>disk was originally formatted as a Macintosh disk, and could be read
:>by my next. However, attempts to initialize/build it as a NeXT
:>disk have failed with the following errors. (listed below)
:> How can I initialize this disk? Also, I hope to use the disk on
:>a macintosh in the future. Will formatting it for my NeXT make it
:>unformattable on a mac?
:>sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 2
:>sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 3
:>sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48, retry 4
[etc]
I've had the same problem with a DEC RZ-55 on my cube. I know it's a
problem with the select/deselect options of the disk but don't know the right
values to use. To set them I had to take the disk to a DECstation...NeXT
doesn't seem to supply a tool for changing these parameters.
This almost seems to be becomming a FAQ--maybe someone can post the
correct values for buffer full/empty ratios and bus idle time? I've
seem about four requests (including mine) for this info in the last few
weeks.
=============================================================================
David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK)
University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the
Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command."
- Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: Re: What do you do when??
Message-ID: <1993Nov21.232849.5007@venice.sedd.trw.com>
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
References: <CGt74t.KoB@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 23:28:49 GMT
jimbo@oingo.umn.edu wrote:
: What do you do when you NeXTStation mother board fries?? Mine hasn't
: but, I have had other computers that did. Can you get another one?
: Or is that a sign that its time to move to WHITE??
My cube's motherboard just went belly up a couple of weeks ago. The
great folks at Bell Atlantic set me a replacement by overnight air.
The fix was __far__ cheaper than a replacement white machine.
Bell Atlantic Computer Technology Services
NeXT 3rd Party Hardware Maintenance
2323 Industrial Parkway West
Hayword, CA 94545
(800) 499-NeXT
(510) 732-3000
Fax: (510) 732-3051
Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
From: dmitri@cco.caltech.edu (Dmitri Linde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Connecting NeXT to speakers
Date: 21 Nov 1993 23:25:39 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2cotdk$qd5@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Is there a way to make the NeXT (NeXTStation) play sounds on speakers from
a stereo system? Are any special cables or devices (such as a amplifier)
needed?
Thanks very much for any information. If there is enough interest I will
post a summary.
Dmitri Linde
dmitri@cco.caltech.edu
From: root@moses.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Microtek SCSI Scanner
Date: 22 Nov 1993 01:23:20 GMT
Organization: Heinrich Heine Universitaet Duesseldorf
Message-ID: <2cp4a8$fen@unidus.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de>
I tried to connect a microtek 300SZ Scanner to a Neext Staion and I have
happend to have theo following problems:
1. when the machine comes up it notes a SCSI error on device 6 all luns.
The Scanner is terminated correctly and works fine on a MAC
2. SCSI Inquirer doesn t find a Scanner at all, Scanmaker.app says no
microtek scanner found.
Has anyone a guess what the upper 3 Dip switches mean?
If you have only the slightest suggestions please send my an email
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schroedm@uni-duesseldorf.de
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTSTEP Hardware, Software & Peripherals Catalog
Date: 22 Nov 1993 03:36:11 GMT
Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX
Message-ID: <2cpc3b$f3@inxs.concert.net>
NeXTSTEP for Intel Hardware, Software and Peripherals Catalog is now being
emailed, faxed and mailed to interested parties who request the Catalog via
email.
The Catalog includes offerings from ALR to Zenith and the ability to offer
discounts to educational and governmental institutions and extremely
competitive pricing to the rest of the NeXTSTEP community and those who wish
to enter the NeXTSTEP community.
EMAIL requests to briggman@rock.concert.net and we'll begin emailing on
Monday November 22, 1993.
Thanks,
Dave Briggman
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: Problems with Etherlink III?
Message-ID: <CGvKwH.AMC@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Keywords: ethernet
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: The Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
References: <CGqzq1.4tD@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com> <CGsp6K.L3x@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 04:05:07 GMT
In article <CGsp6K.L3x@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>,
Dennis S. Breckenridge <dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca> wrote:
>dhinz@newsit.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com (David Hinz) writes:
>
>>Has anyone had any trouble using the 3COM Etherlink III ethernet card with NS 3.1
We originally bought one of these with our GW2K-486DX2-66...it worked
slightly right away - until we tried to do anything useful with it. It
then:
hung on NFS or TCP(FTP,"rcp", "rsh", etc.) reads
panic'ed the machine repeatedly
We ditched it and got an Intel EtherExpress in its place. No more
panics and network activity works, BUT...
NS3.1 refuses to see the card in anything but 8 bit mode
I received suggestions from NeXT (change slots, remove other boards
from machine) and a claim that this should improve under 3.2, but
accompanied by ominous comments about how it isn't entirely a NeXT
problem.
I had originally decided on the 3COM because of nasty comments
about unstable machines with the SMC board, so I'm now wondering
if there is *any* reliable and fast network board for NS/FIP.
Scott S. Bertilson
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From: gumby@ucsd.edu (Henry Ptasinski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Unlisted Intel-based hardware
Keywords: Intel FIP compatibility
Message-ID: <3430@deadmin.ucsd.edu>
Date: 22 Nov 93 05:38:48 GMT
Sender: news@deadmin.ucsd.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Hi,
I was wondering what experience (good or bad) people have had with installing
NeXTStep on Intel-based hardware that isn't listed in the compatibility guide.
I'm sure there are at least a few people out there who've been experimenting,
and I'd like to know what kinds of results they're getting. I may have an
opportunity myself in the next few weeks to play around some (as soon as 3.2
gets here).
Thanks,
Henry P.
gumby@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bill@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk ((super) bill russell)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM drive on a Mac
Message-ID: <CGvpB0.Euq@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
Keywords: NeXT CD-ROM driver
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
References: <fleminmk.753416346@fe808.cc.purdue.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 05:45:00 GMT
Is this the Next 4* speed?
I would have thought that the Apple CD
ROM driver would have worked along with this machine, or do you need to have System >= 7 installed.
EEK
MBD...
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Help with Quantum ELS170S
Message-ID: <1993Nov22.110541.20561@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <2cogcq$q2i@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 11:05:41 GMT
In article <2cogcq$q2i@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> devans@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca
(David F Evans) writes:
> In article <1993Nov21.055406.14553@leland.Stanford.EDU> Evan Schofer
(guitar@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
> :>Hello!
> :> I'm trying to initialize a QUANTUM ELS170S on a NextStation. The
> :>disk was originally formatted as a Macintosh disk, and could be read
> :>by my next. However, attempts to initialize/build it as a NeXT
> :>disk have failed with the following errors. (listed below)
> :> How can I initialize this disk? Also, I hope to use the disk on
> :>a macintosh in the future. Will formatting it for my NeXT make it
> :>unformattable on a mac?
>
> :>sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 2
>
> :>sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 3
>
> :>sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
retry 4
>
> [etc]
>
> I've had the same problem with a DEC RZ-55 on my cube. I know it's a
> problem with the select/deselect options of the disk but don't know the
right
> values to use. To set them I had to take the disk to a
DECstation...NeXT
> doesn't seem to supply a tool for changing these parameters.
> This almost seems to be becomming a FAQ--maybe someone can post the
> correct values for buffer full/empty ratios and bus idle time? I've
> seem about four requests (including mine) for this info in the last few
> weeks.
>
>
==========================================================================
===
> David Evans
devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
> Computer/Synth Junkie
(NeXTMail OK)
> University of Guelph "Default is the value selected
by the
> Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your
command."
> - Roland TR-707
Manual
This has been cured on IBM 1Gb 3,5" hard drive by enabling the untaged
queing bit. Unfortunatly this modeselect page was IBM vendor unique.
--Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help with Quantum ELS170S
Message-ID: <MAX.93Nov22090941@Kolmogorov.gac.edu>
From: max@Kolmogorov.gac.edu (Max Hailperin)
Date: 22 Nov 93 09:09:41
References: <1993Nov21.055406.14553@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, MN
In-reply-to: guitar@leland.Stanford.EDU's message of Sun, 21 Nov 93 05:54:06 GMT
This has become quite a FAQ -- are there any FAQ maintainters
listening??
In article <1993Nov21.055406.14553@leland.Stanford.EDU>
guitar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Evan Schofer) writes:
... I'm trying to initialize a QUANTUM ELS170S on a
NextStation.... [and get} sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; ...
The Quantum ELSxxxS drives only work with NeXTs if they are the only
SCSI device. If alone, they work fine, but if there are other SCSI
devices you get "incomplete disk transfer" messages. Since the above
post showed the disk as sd2, it clearly wasn't the only SCSI device
(there must have been at least two other disk drives).
From: perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steve Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI GUP VLB and Packard-Bell 17in. monitor
Keywords: GUP,VLB, Packard-Bell,Ghosting
Message-ID: <Nov.22.12.45.32.1993.12594@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
Date: 22 Nov 93 17:45:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
I recently switched from a Tseng4000 VLB to an ATI GUP VLB video card. I
now have very faint ghosting to the right side of all lines and images on
my Packard-Bell 17in multisync monitor. Is there anyone else using the ATI and the P-B monitor? The ghosting is there under NS/FIP and under DOS and
Windows. The P-B supports a vertical frequency from 56 to 90 hz. I set
the custom install under DOS/Windows like the NEC 4D. What selections have
others made?
TIA,
Steven C. Perkins perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Anyone try any of these disks in a '030 NeXT?
Message-ID: <espritCGwpEv.3xD@netcom.com>
Organization: /dev/null Software
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 18:44:54 GMT
Well, after looking through the FAQs and talking to Quantum, it appears that
the lovely LPS525S that I just purchased will not work with my NeXT '030 and
I will be heading back to the disk drive store in search for another drive.
Has anyone successfully (or unsuccessfully) used any of these disk drives in
a NeXT, particularly in an '030 NeXT?
Fujitsu M2624FA 520M
Maxtor MXT-540S 540M
Seagate ST3600N 525M
Conner CP30540 540M
Anyone know if NeXT would be helpful in this matter?
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From: jmeacham@ants.ci.net (James D. Meacham 3rd)
Subject: Which HP printers on NS 2.1 ?
Message-ID: <1993Nov22.171926.259@ants.ci.net>
Sender: jmeacham@ants.ci.net
Organization: Andover Newton Theological School
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 17:19:26 GMT
I'm thinking about buying an HP deskjet printer for my NeXTstation runing 2.1.
I've consulted the FAQ but have been unable to find out exactly which models
(500, 550, etc) work and what I need to get them running. I'e be most
apprectiative if anyone could point me to this info. PEace,
James
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From: alex@data.acs.calpoly.edu (Alex Raftis)
Subject: Re: Microtek SCSI Scanner
Message-ID: <1993Nov22.191851.9329@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 19:18:51 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, SLO
References: <2cp4a8$fen@unidus.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de>
In article <2cp4a8$fen@unidus.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de>
root@moses.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Operator) writes:
> I tried to connect a microtek 300SZ Scanner to a Neext Staion and I have
> happend to have theo following problems:
>
> 1. when the machine comes up it notes a SCSI error on device 6 all luns.
> The Scanner is terminated correctly and works fine on a MAC
> 2. SCSI Inquirer doesn t find a Scanner at all, Scanmaker.app says no
> microtek scanner found.
> Has anyone a guess what the upper 3 Dip switches mean?
>
> If you have only the slightest suggestions please send my an email
I post this as a warning to all. When I was researching scanners about two
months ago, I was informed that MicroTek has "Upgraded" the ROM's on their
scanners and thusly made them incompatible with NeXT's SCSI bus. This is
not directly from MicroTek, but rather from one company that had been
supporting their scanners.
So, if you're going to get a MicroTek scanner, it has to be one of the
older models with the older ROM's.
Alex
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From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steven Kornreich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Onboard SCSI for Intel ProGX?? 3.2
Message-ID: <steve.5.000ACEB1@eps.rain.com>
Date: 22 Nov 93 18:48:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: eps.steve.5.000ACEB1
Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Organization: EPS
Is the onboard SCSI on the pro gx supported with 3.2?? Does the driver come on
the 3.2 cdrom?? Or where can I get it???
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H. Sieglinger)
Subject: Syquests and Bernoullis
Message-ID: <CGwrF0.ADK@kaiwan.com>
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access (310-527-4279,714-539-0829,830-6061,818-579-6701)
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 19:28:12 GMT
I'm debating between a Syquest 105mb and a Bernoulli 150mb drive for my
NeXTcube. I see prices in MacConnection that look pretty good, but I'm not
sure whether I'd run into problems getting these units up and running on my
setup. Any info on preferences and/or functionality? I would thing there
would be no problem with plug-and-play, but I don't want to be stuck.
thanks,
Chip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org
Subject: Re: Intel GX/Pro no longer certified
Message-ID: <1993Nov22.141004.24727@metasoft.fdn.org>
Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org
Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France.
References: <2cocuv$fnt@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 14:10:04 GMT
In article <2cocuv$fnt@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
Welch) writes:
> Good lord. I have had trouble installing NS on wholly certified
computers.
> In fact, I bought the GX/Pro after I realized that NeXT support
> would be helpful only if I had a completely "kosher" system.
>
> Has anyone else installed NS 3.2 on an Intel GX/Pro? Are there any
> problems one should be aware of?
It just works, especially the build-in sound support...
The Intel/GX always seems to be just a White NeXTstation.
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From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Onboard SCSI for Intel ProGX?? 3.2
Date: 22 Nov 1993 20:44:53 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2cr8c5$mil@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <steve.5.000ACEB1@eps.rain.com>
In article <steve.5.000ACEB1@eps.rain.com> steve@eps.rain.com (Steven
Kornreich) writes:
> Is the onboard SCSI on the pro gx supported with 3.2??
I asked this same question last week, and got the following answers:
It is supported by a third party driver (rumor has it Intel Adv Workstations)
> Does the driver come on
> the 3.2 cdrom??
No. It is not on the 3.2 CD-ROM
>Or where can I get it???
Officially, you get it by asking the people who sold you the GX to ask
their suppliers to get the NeXT-SCSI driver. Unoffically, the beta release
is available IFF you know who to ask at Intel. (Today, I know;-).
If you want to see the beta release of SCSI driver, without warranty of it
working, email me.
- Geoff
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dpeter@hsd.com
Subject: ##HSD SCANNER BUNDLES--SPECIAL PRICES ENDING SOON##
Message-ID: <CGwt2r.1ny@hsd.com>
Sender: usenet@hsd.com
Organization: HSD Microcomputer, U.S., Inc.
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 20:04:02 GMT
HSD ANNOUNCES OFFICE PRODUCTIVITY SCANNER BUNDLES
HSD offers a complete line of professional desktop scanners, accessories
and office productivity software for computers running NeXTSTEP at very
competitive prices. Through the end of Novermber HSD is offering special
prices on four complete office productivity solutions which include
scanners, software and accessories:
Package #1 (Limited Quantity Available)
HSD Scan-Office OCR System: $895
This package includes:
- Scan-X Professional Grayscale Scanner
- OCR Servant Software
- PowerScan Professional (PowerScan 2.0, PowerCopy, PowerFax)
- Cable, terminator, power cord
- One-year warranty
- Available in 110v and 220v
Package #2 (Limited Quantity Available)
HSD Scan-Office Professional OCR System: $1295
This package includes:
- Scan-X Professional Grayscale Scanner
- Automatic Document Feeder
- OCR Servant Software
- HSD Spell Software
- PowerScan Professional (PowerScan 2.0, PowerCopy, PowerFax)
- Cable, terminator, power cord
- One-year warranty
- Available in 110v and 220v
Package #3
HSD Color Publishing System: $1195
This package includes:
- Umax UC630 Color Scanner (24-bit color)
- PowerScan Professional (PowerScan 2.0, PowerCopy, PowerFax)
- Cable, terminator, power cord
- One-year warranty
- Available in 110v and 220v
Package #4
HSD Professional Color Publishing System with OCR: $1595
This package includes:
- Umax UC630 Color Scanner (24-bit color)
- Automatic Document Feeder
- PowerScan Professional (PowerScan 2.0, PowerCopy, PowerFax)
- OCR Servant Software
- HSD Spell Software
- Cable, terminator, power cord
- One-year warranty
- Available in 110v and 220v
Prices available through November 31, 1993.
Prices are per order. Orders may be paid for by company check or cashiers
check (COD), or in advance by bank wire transfer or credit card unless
credit terms have been approved with prior written authorization from
HSD's financial department. Shipping is collect, FOB HSD's office,
Sunnyvale, CA. International customers are responsible for payment of
import duties and taxes required by your country.
Purchase orders and telephone orders are accepted. Fax your purchase order
to HSD at (408) 774-1402 or send it via electronic mail to sales@hsd.com.
If you have any questions or would like to receive pricing and complete
information about all HSD products for NeXTSTEP, please contact HSD Sales
directly at (408) 774-1400, or send email to info@hsd.com.
David Peter
dpeter@hsd.com (NeXTMAIL)
(408) 774-1400 Ph.
(800) 828-5522 Toll-free
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dpeter@hsd.com
Subject: HSD Products for NEXTSTEP--Complete Info
Message-ID: <CGwtLu.1tC@hsd.com>
Sender: usenet@hsd.com
Organization: HSD Microcomputer, U.S., Inc.
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 20:15:29 GMT
HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc.
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Email: info@hsd.com
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HSD Products for NEXTSTEP
Product Name: PowerScan Professional Scanning Bundle
List Price: $495.00
Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP
Product description:
PowerScan Professional is a complete bundle of full-featured scanning
applications for computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional
bundle includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for
scanning and image manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based
application which utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy
machine; PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your
scanner and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine.
PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing
application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP.
PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application.
Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold
adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion,
and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats.
PowerScan also supports Spectrum Enhancement, HSD's proprietary
scan enhancement technology which allows you to finely tune the
scanners dynamic range before scanning an image. The results are
rich, vibrant images that come alive with color and contain the subtle
details and nuances other scanners would miss.
PowerScan 2.0 works with all HSD and Umax scanners and includes
support for an optional automatic document feeder and transparency
adapter. Support for additional scanners will be available soon.
PowerFax is a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner and
fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine--with just a single click of
your mouse! Simply put a document in your scanner, select PowerFax from
the Services menu, then enter a fax number in the fax panel. Your document
is automatically scanned and faxed to the destination you chose.
PowerCopy is a "Services" based application which utilizes your
scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine with just a single
click of your mouse! Just put a document in your scanner, select
PowerCopy from the Services menu, then enter the number of copies
to print in the print panel. Your document is automatically scanned and
the number of copies you specify are sent to your printer.
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Product Name: OCR Servant
List Price: $295.00
Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP
Product description:
OCR Servant is an Optical Character Recognition (OCR) utility based on
omnifont technology that makes text recognition of TIFF or FAX images
quick and easy. Just select a region of text from a displayed image, or an
entire file in the file viewer, then start OCR Servant simply by selecting
it from the Services menu, just as you would select NeXTmail or Digital
Webster.
OCR Servant recognizes text and then displays the text in it's built-in
text editor. You can then edit the text, check spelling, set fonts, adjust
the layout of the text, copy and paste the text to your favorite word
processor, or take advantage of other services which accept text as input.
OCR Servant recognizes most common fonts and typestyles at speeds
from 40 to over 200 characters per second with an accuracy rate of up
to 100 percent. It supports character sizes from 8 to 36 points at
resolutions between 200 and 400 dpi. OCR Servant converts scanned
documents, high-resolution faxes and TIFF images into ASCII text and
saves text in Rich Text Format (RTF).
Features
1. High Accuracy
2. Fast Recognition Speed
3. Utilizes "omnifont" technology
Benefits
1. Up to 100 percent accuracy with documents of good, scanned image
quality or high-resolution computer generated fax.
2. Recognizes 40 to over 200 characters per second for fast
processing of multiple pages or long documents.
3. OCR Servant utilizes "omnifont" technology to automatically
recognize text. It is not necessary to "train" the system recognize
characters.
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Product Name: HSD Spell
List Price: $149.00 includes two languages
Additional Languages: $99 each
Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP
Product description:
HSD Spell is the international spelling software for NEXTSTEP that
automatically integrates multiple language spelling capabilities into
your existing applications. HSD spell can also be used as a stand-
alone application or accessed as a Service from other applications.
HSD Spell supports 11 international languages including Danish,
Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian,
Portuguese, Spanish and Swedish.
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Company: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc.
Product Name: UC 630 Color Scanner
List Price: $1495 Includes HSD PowerScan Professional
Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP
Product description:
The UC 630 color scanner is built to provide users a convenient and
cost-efficient tool to capture high resolution color, grayscale and
line-art images into their computer. Bundled with HSD's PowerScan
Professional software for NEXTSTEP, the UC 630 is a fully integrated
professional scanning solution.
The UC 630 has a brilliant eye for color, recognizing up to 16.8 million
of them at 24-bits per pixel. Using an advanced CCD image capturing
device, the UC 630 scans a color image in three passes to capture images
that burst with vividness and vitality. The UC 630 supports resolution of
up to 600 dpi for color and grayscale images and up to 2400 dpi for line
art. It supports scanning of documents up to U.S. Legal size.
Speed is another virtue of the UC 630. Average scanning time for a full
size color image is just over two minutes, one of the fastest in the
industry.
The UC 630 has a built-in SCSI II compatible interface for easily
connecting to your NeXT computer or PC running NEXTSTEP and it
comes bundled with all necessary cables. The UC 630 has a one-year
warranty and is backed by HSD's 30-day return policy.
The UC 630 is shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Scanning
Series--a complete bundle of full-featured scanning applications for
computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional bundle
includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image
manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which
utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine;
PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner
and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine.
PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing
application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP.
PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application.
Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold
adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion,
and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats.
Options Include:
Automatic Document Feeder--25 sheet Automatic Document Feeder
for batch-scanning of multi-page documents: $495.
Transparency Adapter--Transparency adapter for scanning slides, X-
ray film, and transparencies: $795.
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Company: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc.
Product Name: UC 840 Color Scanner
List Price: $1695 Includes HSD PowerScan Professional
Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP
Product description:
The UC 840 color scanner captures16.8 million colors at resolutions up to
800 dpi for grayscale or color images and up to 2400 dpi for line art. It
supports scanning of documents up to U.S. Legal size.
The UC 840 merges award-winning technology with state-of-the art
craftsmanship, presenting crisp, clear images. Bundled with HSD's
PowerScan Professional software for NEXTSTEP, the UC 840 is a
powerful and versatile professional scanning solution. And with an
average scanning time for a full-size color image at just under two
minutes, it is one of the fastest desktop color scanners available.
The UC 840 has a built-in SCSI II compatible interface for easily
connecting to your NeXT computer or PC running NEXTSTEP and it
comes bundled with all necessary cables. The UC 840 has a one-year
warranty and is backed by HSD's 30-day return policy.
The UC 840 is shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Scanning
Series--a complete bundle of full-featured scanning applications for
computers running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional bundle
includes three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image
manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which
utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine;
PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner
and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine.
PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing
application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP.
PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application.
Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold
adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion,
and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats.
Options Include:
Automatic Document Feeder--25 sheet Automatic Document Feeder
for batch-scanning of multi-page documents: $495.
Transparency Adapter--Transparency adapter for scanning slides, X-
ray film, and transparencies: $795.
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Company: HSD Microcomputer U.S., Inc.
Product Name: UC 1260 Color Scanner
List Price: $2495 Includes HSD PowerScan Professional
Availability: Shipping now for Motorola and Intel-based NEXTSTEP
Product description:
The UC 1260 color scanner captures over 16 million colors at
resolutions up to 2400 dpi. And with a hardware resolution of 1200 x
600 dpi it is among the highest resolution desktop scanners available. The
price/performance ratio of the UC 1260 makes it unbeatable in it's class
and the perfect tool for DTP users, pre-press professionals and graphics
designers.
The UC 1260 utilizes proprietary Ultra View technology and built-in
gamma correction so that scanned colors will always match the
originals with unbeatable quality. The UC 1260 also scans grayscale
and line-art images with superb results.
The UC 1260 has a built-in SCSI II compatible interface for easily
connecting to your NeXT computer or PC running NEXTSTEP and it
comes bundled with all necessary cables. The UC 1260 has a one-year
warranty and is backed by HSD's 30-day return policy.
The UC 1260 is shipped with HSD's PowerScan Professional Series--a
complete bundle of full-featured scanning applications for computers
running NEXTSTEP. The PowerScan Professional bundle includes
three applications: PowerScan 2.0, for scanning and image
manipulation; PowerCopy, a "Services" based application which
utilizes your scanner and printer to simulate a copy machine;
PowerFax, a "Services" based application which utilizes your scanner
and fax modem to simulate a paper fax machine.
PowerScan 2.0 is a full-featured scanning and image editing
application that is flawlessly integrated with the NEXTSTEP.
PowerScan can be used as a service or a stand-alone application.
Features include preview scanning, brightness, contrast and threshold
adjustment, scaling, filtering, image manipulation, image conversion,
and saving in a variety of compressed and non-compressed formats.
Options Include:
Automatic Document Feeder--25 sheet Automatic Document Feeder
for batch-scanning of multi-page documents: $495.
Transparency Adapter--Transparency adapter for scanning slides, X-
ray film, and transparencies: $795.
From: gwhite@trevnx.bio.dfo.ca (George White 6-8509)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can NeXT read/write MS-DOS/Mac formatted removable media (Syquest, etc.)?
Date: 22 Nov 1993 18:03:52 -0400
Organization: Bedford Institute of Oceanography
Sender: news@nstn.ns.ca
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <GWHITE.93Nov22180349@trevnx.bio.dfo.ca>
Some of our users create artwork on MS-DOS systems (Corel, Adobe
Photoshop) but our slide maker and also the local print shops are
Mac-based. I'm told by reputable vendors that removable media disks
created on Mac or MS-DOS systems can't be read on the other. Since we
have a couple of NeXT (black, 3.0) systems, I wondered if a NeXT could
be used to convert the disks between Mac and DOS formats.
Why, you ask, don't I use ethernet? Answer: if I could, I would. We
have a Banyan Vines server that allows PC's and Mac's to share files,
but the network people won't support any drivers that run on EISA bus
PC's with more than 16Mbytes.
--
/George White <GWhite@BIOnet.BIO.DFO.ca> Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gfin@cyber.psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Subject: Re: Unlisted Intel-based hardware
Message-ID: <1993Nov22.215957.18367@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <3430@deadmin.ucsd.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 21:59:57 GMT
Henry Ptasinski writes
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering what experience (good or bad) people have had with
installing
> NeXTStep on Intel-based hardware that isn't listed in the compatibility
guide.
I wondered about this too, before I tried it. As I described in a post
last week, my no-name installation had only a couple of well-known and
minor glitches. As long as you've got one of the few supported SCSI
and video cards, I don't think the motherboard brand makes much
difference.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel GX/Pro no longer certified
Date: 22 Nov 1993 23:05:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2crgkg$9oe@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Nov22.141004.24727@metasoft.fdn.org>
In article <1993Nov22.141004.24727@metasoft.fdn.org> Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org writes:
>
>It just works, especially the build-in sound support...
>The Intel/GX always seems to be just a White NeXTstation.
In fact, Intel/GX *is* being sold as "NeXTstation" in Japan by Canon,
with Release 3.1J pre-installed.
--
Izumi Ohzawa [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440 Fax: (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXTMail OK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Connecting NeXT to speakers
Message-ID: <CGwrnJ.80x@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <2cotdk$qd5@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Distribution: all
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 19:33:18 GMT
In article <2cotdk$qd5@gap.cco.caltech.edu> dmitri@cco.caltech.edu (Dmitri
Linde) writes:
> Is there a way to make the NeXT (NeXTStation) play sounds on speakers
from
> a stereo system? Are any special cables or devices (such as a amplifier)
> needed?
>
> Thanks very much for any information. If there is enough interest I will
> post a summary.
>
> Dmitri Linde
> dmitri@cco.caltech.edu
The simplest way ist to take to chinch-cable an connect
you maschine to an amplifier. The other one is to take
a 2xcinch -> 3.5 mm plug (e.g. for walkman headset) an
connect that to your amplifier. With this cable-set you can
control the incoming sound to your amplifier by using the
Sound Up & Down keys on your NeXTkeyboard.
--
Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________
e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de
Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen
Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: 3.1 Keyboard Problem Worse in 3.2
Message-ID: <1993Nov22.233427.24688@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 23:34:27 GMT
It took me months to get NEXTSTEP for Intel 3.1 running on my antique Gateway
2000. The install was always hanging at the "registering keyboard" message. I
ended up replacing the keyboard controller BIOS chip and eventually got
NEXTSTEP loaded on my 1991 system.
Well, NS/FIP 3.2 came today and I upgraded. When I tried to reboot after the
upgrade, 3.2 hung at the "registering keyboard" message. I've seen this a
zillion times before. Arrrrggh!!!!
I decided to try and load 3.2 from scratch using the new boot floppy. The
install makes it to the point of warning me that "this is not an upgrade" and
"hit a 1 to prepare to install". At this point the keyboard does not respond.
It was perfectly happy at the half a dozen previous prompts. Arrrrggh!!!
Well, I ordered a new motherboard BIOS and I'm reloading 3.1 from scratch. I
sure hope the new motherboard BIOS works with 3.2. I don't want to be stuck at
3.1 forever.
Stay tuned ...
--
Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from the usual
or traditional: EXTREME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Undelete utility needed
Message-ID: <sjha.754019756@husc9>
From: sjha@husc9.harvard.edu (Saurabh Jha)
Date: 23 Nov 93 01:55:56 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Keywords: undelete
Hi,
I accidentally rm'ed some files on a NeXTstation (NS 3.1). Does anyone
know of an undelete utility (like on Macs or PC's) that is publicly available?
Thanks,
saurabh
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| saurabh jha "Nature is the art of God." |
| sjha@husc.harvard.edu -- Dante |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: milan@brainbow.in-berlin.de (Milan Breznovsky)
Subject: Question: 2GB 3,5" IBM HD on BLACK NeXT ???
Message-ID: <C3EJBPEB@brainbow.in-berlin.de>
Sender: milan@brainbow.in-berlin.de
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 00:47:46 GMT
Dear Sir.
Does anyone have experience with the 2GB IBM 3,5" hard disk "Type 0664 SCSI-2
Model M1H" on NeXTcube. Formatting, tips etc. BTW: Nice HD, great MTBF.
Hot tips please direct to: milan@brainbow.in-berlin.de
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
--
Thank you and kind regards,
Milan
_____________________________________________________________________
Milan Breznovsky
Research Associate
--
Kind regards,
Milan
_____________________________________________________________________
Milan Breznovsky Dipl.-Ing.
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Undelete utility needed
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 00:55:12 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <UgwOL0y00iV4MFOptu@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <sjha.754019756@husc9>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 23-Nov-93 Undelete utility
needed by Saurabh Jha@husc9.harvard.edu
> I accidentally rm'ed some files on a NeXTstation (NS 3.1). Does anyone
> know of an undelete utility (like on Macs or PC's) that is publicly
> available?
Unfortunately, there is no such utility; it is not possible to reliably
undelete something under unix due to the nature of the filesystem and
the fact that the machine is regularly flushing buffers to disk (via
update).
If you had immediately shut down your machine after performing the
deletion, then it is theoretically possible that an unix expert could
possibly have undeleted the files if he were lucky, but in practice,
there is no way to undelete.
I have actually seen undeletion sucessfully done *once*, by someone who
is a lot smarter than I am. They managed to fiddle with the machine in
single-user mode so that fsck treated the deleted file as something to
be put in /lost+found. (If I remember correctly; it was 4 years or so
ago....)
Moral: be careful with rm!!!
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is this hardware okay for NS/FIP?
Date: 23 Nov 1993 07:05:56 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <BWH.93Nov23020556@beach.cis.ufl.edu>
I'm considering the following system:
Pentium 66MHz
PCI/ISA bus
32MB RAM (4MBx8)
256K L2 cache (write-back)
510MB SCSI-2 Seagate HDD
Adaptec 1542C SCSI-2 controller
Toshiba XM3401B SCSI CD-ROM
Actix Graphics Ultra 32+ S3 928 w/ 2MB
Nanao F560iW 17" monitor
Logitech 3-button mouse
Any opinions or obvious incompatibilities?
Thanks,
Brian
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// Brian Hook "Stop! Stop in the name of all that
// ( bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu ) which does not suck!" - Butthead
//
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: Re: Unlisted Intel-based hardware
Message-ID: <rorCGxxIF.44A@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <3430@deadmin.ucsd.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 10:37:26 GMT
Henry Ptasinski (gumby@ucsd.edu) wrote:
: Hi,
: I was wondering what experience (good or bad) people have had with installing
: NeXTStep on Intel-based hardware that isn't listed in the compatibility guide.
: I'm sure there are at least a few people out there who've been experimenting,
: and I'd like to know what kinds of results they're getting. I may have an
: opportunity myself in the next few weeks to play around some (as soon as 3.2
: gets here).
It seems to run fine on my Zeos 486/66 (NEXTSTEP 3.1). The Zeos tech
people told me they have several machines running it with 0 problems.
Their on-board SCSI option is not supported, so don't buy a system
configured with that. I had to go buy an Adaptec 1542c card instead. I
recruited an external Apple CD 300 from my Quadra 700.
--
ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: Thierry.Desbois@metasoft.fdn.org
Subject: NS/FIP Driver for a Wacom-like "tablet"
Message-ID: <1993Nov23.101958.27915@metasoft.fdn.org>
Sender: news@metasoft.fdn.org
Organization: Metasoft - Rennes, France.
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 10:19:58 GMT
Hi netters,
I m looking for a NS/FIP driver to use a "screen-tablet"
(like the PC s one made by WACOM) with a NS/FIP application.
This "tablet" must be connected on the video port of the PC
(I've got an Intel/GX) and should display the NeXTSTEP screen.
The end-user must use a "stylet" which would replace the
mouse for pointing.
Drawing or writting facilities are not necessary, It should
only works for pushing interface buttons...
(ps : for obscure reasons, it seems that the WACOM Macintosh
driver has never been made)
Thanks in advance,
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thierry Desbois Tel: (+33) 99 31 68 00 Fax: (+33) 99 35 00 45
Metasoft ted@metasoft.fdn.org [WeLmail nextcome]
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: What do you do when??
Message-ID: <CGxD37.E2@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <CGt74t.KoB@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 03:16:19 GMT
In article <CGt74t.KoB@news2.cis.umn.edu> jimbo@oingo.umn.edu writes:
#What do you do when you NeXTStation mother board fries?? Mine hasn't
#but, I have had other computers that did. Can you get another one?
#Or is that a sign that its time to move to WHITE??
Another can be gotten from Bell Atlantic.
1-800-499-NEXT
Kent
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: ET4000AX Video Driver Questions
Message-ID: <1993Nov23.161605.26205@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 16:16:05 GMT
I have an old Diamond SpeedSTAR Plus Version 4.23 video card with 1 MB memory
and a CrystalScan 1024NI monitor that both came with my 1991 Gateway 2000. The
video card has an ET4000AX chip on it, but I can't seem to get it to work with
the NS/FIP 3.1 ET4000AX driver. It works fine with the 3.1 Standard VGA
driver. I am suspecting that the 3.1 ET4000AX driver is using frequencies that
my monitor can't cope with. Can anyone confirm or deny this assumption?
According to the Gateway documentation on the video card, it can generate the
following video signals:
Resolution Horizontal Vertical Mode
640 X 480 31.5 KHz 60 Hz Noninterlaced
640 X 480 35.4 KHz 69 Hz Noninterlaced
640 X 480 37.6 KHz 72 Hz Noninterlaced
800 X 600 31.5 KHz 48 Hz Interlaced
800 X 600 35.2 KHz 56 Hz Noninterlaced
800 X 600 37.9 KHz 60 Hz Noninterlaced
800 X 600 48.1 KHz 72 Hz Noninterlaced
1024 X 768 31.5 KHz 39 Hz Interlaced
1024 X 768 35.5 KHz 44 Hz Interlaced
1024 X 768 48.9 KHz 60 Hz Noninterlaced
1024 X 768 56.5 KHz 70 Hz Noninterlaced
According to the Gateway documentation on the monitor, it can cope with the
following video parameters:
Resolutions
640 X 350 720 X 400 640 X 480 800 X 600 1024 X 768
Horizontal Scanning Frequencies
31.5 KHz +/- 1.5 KHz 48.0 KHz +/- 1.5 KHZ
Vertical Scanning Frequencies
50 to 90 Hz
What frequencies does the NS/FIP 3.1 ET4000AX video driver use? Would a new
monitor help me?
NS in 640 X 480 is really BIG. 1024 X 768 would be really NICE. :-)
Thanks.
--
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From: psuver@carson.u.washington.edu (Phil Suver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS 3.1 Intel, 101 Keyboard, Delete Key
Summary: IProblems mapping Delete key on 101 keyboard in NS 3.1 Intel
Keywords: NS 3.1, 101 keyboard, Delete key
Message-ID: <2cth97$foq@news.u.washington.edu>
Date: 23 Nov 93 17:29:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.2cth97$foq
Organization: University of Washington
Is there a way to activate the Delete, Home, End, etc... enhanced keys on
a 101 keyboard (Compaq) in NS 3.1 for Intel?
From: ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Do NeXTstations work with 230V ?
Date: 23 Nov 1993 19:28:38 +0100
Organization: Hack-Tic, networking for the masses
Message-ID: <2ctkp4INNoco@xs4all.hacktic.nl>
I might be buying a NeXTstation (just because black computers is so cool ;-)
but now I have found one thing that can cause problems.
I would probably buy it from the US, because for some reason they are not
too common here in Europe. In fact, I have seen so far one advertisment for
used NeXTstation for sale within Europe. Great.
So, the problem is: do NeXTstations have a power supply that can be switched
to use 230V instead of 110V? I think also the frequency of electricity is
different. And what about the monitors - can you use one with 230V?
Thanks for info,
Petri
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From: enyaw@quark.uucp (Wayne Simila-Dickinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Continuing problems with NXFax software
Message-ID: <znr753897659k@quark.uucp>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 16:00:59 GMT
References: <1993Nov19.142611.12907@bandw.com>
Organization: Wayne's World (hiz home)
In article <1993Nov19.142611.12907@bandw.com> rick@bandw.com writes:
> NXFax 1.03 added support for both the Telebit
> WorldBlazer and the SupraFAX modems. The Telebit, as I
> mentioned above, can not do the data/fax detection. The
> Supra does have this feature. We have had a lot of
> customers who had problems with this feature on the Supra
> modems, but I believe that has improved greatly with their
> recent firmware upgrade.
>
I bought the ROM upgrade for my Supra to fix this specifically. It
still doesn't do the adaptive answer stuff. I've talked to those using
the Zxyel and it works fine, but if you have a Supra, don't count on
adaptive answering working. All other features of NXFax appear to work
on the Supra.
--
more later.
-Wayne
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From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Do NeXTstations work with 230V ?
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 15:45:40 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4gwbNoG00WBO096Whg@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2ctkp4INNoco@xs4all.hacktic.nl>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 23-Nov-93 Do NeXTstations
work with 2.. by Petri Tuomola@hacktic.nl
> So, the problem is: do NeXTstations have a power supply that can be
> switched to use 230V instead of 110V? I think also the frequency of
> electricity is different. And what about the monitors - can you use one
> with 230V?
NeXTstations have a power supply that will automatically handle
100-240VAC and 50-60Hz (No switches needed :-). If you get a mono
machine, than the monitor is powered off of the slab, and you don't have
to worry about it. I don't know about color monitors -- you may be on
your own there.
-Chuck
PS: the electrical technology that allows such a large voltage range is
known as a "switching power supply", thus the smiley above...
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: grdetil@scrc.umanitoba.ca (Gilles Detillieux)
Subject: How to add 8mm or DAT tape to 040 cube?
Message-ID: <CGyp5K.8zA@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 20:34:31 GMT
I'm thinking of adding some sort of tape drive system to my 68040
(non-Turbo) NeXT Cube system. Can anybody share some words of
wisdom on how to do this?
I know I have to get a SCSI tape drive with enclosure and power
supply, and add it on to the SCSI chain. (I've already added a
2 GB disk this way.) What I'm unsure of is the software support.
Do I have to get device drivers specific to the tape drive I buy,
or are all SCSI tape drives standard enough that they are already
supported by the mach kernel? (I.e. will the existing /dev/rst0
device do the trick for any 8mm or DAT tape I might add to the
NeXT?)
I'm also interested in recommendations for the type of drive I
should add. I've heard that 8mm used to have the price advantage
for both drive and media, but that's changing. I've also heard
that DAT is becoming (or already is) more popular than 8mm, and
is supported by more vendors. Can anyone give me more information
on this? Is 8mm a dying standard? Also, if anyone has words of
praise or of warning about specific tape drive models, please pass
them on to me.
Thanks.
--
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Spinal Cord Research Centre or <grdetil@muug.mb.ca>
Dept. of Physiology, U. of Manitoba Phone: (204)789-3766
Winnipeg, MB R3E 0W3 (Canada) Fax: (204)786-0932
From: fosdal@phenxm.physics.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Fujitsu MO & NS/FIP
Date: 23 Nov 1993 21:52:42 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Message-ID: <2cu0na$lj5@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Does anybody know if the fujitsu magneto-optical drive will work under
NeXTStep/Intel?
--
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Management Phone: (608)262-8947 Fax: (608)262-8628
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kathys@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Kathy Sturdevant)
Subject: Connecting a Modem
Message-ID: <1993Nov23.221038.25297@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov>
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 22:10:38 GMT
I am trying to connect a modem to a NeXT cube. I used the instructions
that I found in the Sys Admin book. However, when I try to call, it
does not answer. (I see the lights flash on the modem when it rings.)
The modem is connected to Port A.
I edited the /etc/ttys file like this:
#old line
#ttyda "/usr/etc/getty D9600" unknown off
ttyda "/usr/etc/getty D9600" dialup on
(Note: the NeXT documentation said to use D.baud, but I did not see
a corresponding entry in the /etc/gettytab file, so I thought perhaps
the period was a typo.)
I also saw a file called ttys.installer. I don't understand the
relationship between the two files--I didn't see ttys.installer
mentioned in any documentation. (I tried editing it also on one
run, but it didn't make a difference.)
The modem I'm connecting is:
Intel 14.4 EX
Then I did a "kill -HUP 1" as root.
If you have some ideas on what I am missing, or could have done wrong,
please let me know. Email is preferred.
Thanks!
kathys
kathys@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov
kathys@mojave.jpl.nasa.gov (NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H. Sieglinger)
Subject: SCSI driver-Intel
Message-ID: <CGyzr8.Bv3@kaiwan.com>
Organization: KAIWAN Internet Access (310-527-4279,714-539-0829,830-6061,818-579-6701)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 00:23:32 GMT
Does anyone know if the external SCSI on the Intel Workstation GX works under
NS 3.2?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Subject: Re: Undelete utility needed
Message-ID: <CGz04M.222@genoa.com>
Sender: alex@genoa.com (Alex Blakemore)
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
References: <UgwOL0y00iV4MFOptu@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 00:31:34 GMT
Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes
> Moral: be careful with rm!!!
or even better, get in the habit of using the recycler,
even if you are an _expert_.
its an extra step, but its reversible.
--
Alex Blakemore
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Why are only 2 CDROMS supported under NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Nov24.020838.17979@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 02:08:38 GMT
I'm real curious as to what kinds of CD-ROM drives folks are using that
work with NS for Intel.
The useless (Nov 14, 1993) compatability guide only lists the external
NeXT CDROM, no longer made and the external NEC-74. This means that no
internal CD-ROMs are "supported" under NEXTSTEP. Maybe its just me, but
it would seem that they should be able to qualify other drives against the
release!
There have to be 1/2 a dozen drives that are currently very common. Off
the top of my head, it would seem that the following should be supported
or at least mentioned:
Texel 3028
Toshiba 3401B
NEC 84 (internal 74?)
NEC 3XI/3XE (triple spin)
TEAC CD-50
Apple CD-300 (SONY CDU-561?)
I understand why video boards and disk controllers take longer to add to
the release. But its hard to see what the excuse is for the lack of
CD-ROM drives in the guide.
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
Voice: 919.783.7033
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fl1ger@rrz.de (Ralf Weber)
Subject: Re: Problems with Etherlink III?
Message-ID: <1993Nov23.205458.1230@rrz.de>
Sender: fl1ger@rrz.de
Organization: Rhein-Rechenzentrum GmbH, Koblenz, Germany
References: <CGvKwH.AMC@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 93 20:54:58 GMT
Scott S. Bertilson writes
> We ditched it and got an Intel EtherExpress in its place. No more
> panics and network activity works, BUT...
> NS3.1 refuses to see the card in anything but 8 bit mode
> I received suggestions from NeXT (change slots, remove other boards
> from machine) and a claim that this should improve under 3.2, but
> accompanied by ominous comments about how it isn't entirely a NeXT
> problem.
You have the updated driver for 3.1 from NeXTAnswers have you?!!
We had the same panic, etc. problems with the 3Com and switched to
Intel, but the 8-bit problem went away when we installed the new driver
from NeXTAnswers. You can easily find out if you have it, by doing the
following:
Start up, Configure.app, then click network-card. You should see three
buttons on the bottom of the window labled "BNC", "AUI" and "RJ-45". If
you don't see this button you probably have the wrong driver.
--
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From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with Etherlink III?
Date: 24 Nov 1993 04:31:49 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <2cuo3l$do@gamera.umd.edu>
References: <CGqzq1.4tD@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com> <CGsp6K.L3x@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca> <CGvKwH.AMC@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Keywords: ethernet
scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson) writes:
>In article <CGsp6K.L3x@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>,
>Dennis S. Breckenridge <dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca> wrote:
>>dhinz@newsit.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com (David Hinz) writes:
>>
>>>Has anyone had any trouble using the 3COM Etherlink III ethernet card with NS 3.1
> We originally bought one of these with our GW2K-486DX2-66...it worked
>slightly right away - until we tried to do anything useful with it. It
>then:
> hung on NFS or TCP(FTP,"rcp", "rsh", etc.) reads
> panic'ed the machine repeatedly
> We ditched it and got an Intel EtherExpress in its place. No more
>panics and network activity works, BUT...
> NS3.1 refuses to see the card in anything but 8 bit mode
>I received suggestions from NeXT (change slots, remove other boards
>from machine) and a claim that this should improve under 3.2, but
>accompanied by ominous comments about how it isn't entirely a NeXT
>problem.
> I had originally decided on the 3COM because of nasty comments
>about unstable machines with the SMC board, so I'm now wondering
>if there is *any* reliable and fast network board for NS/FIP.
> Scott S. Bertilson
>--
We have an ISA/VLB motherboard w/486DX2-66 CPU using an SMC ELITE 16
(WD8013EPT) and it works quite reliably (NO crashes that have anything
to do with this card). The 3C509 we had consistantly crashed the NS3.1
when, as you say, we tried to do anything useful with it (and when the
ThinLAN segment it was attached to was interrupted to add a new node
on rare occasions).
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From: gisli@duffing.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Undelete utility needed
Date: 24 Nov 1993 04:25:46 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <GISLI.93Nov23232547@duffing.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <UgwOL0y00iV4MFOptu@andrew.cmu.edu> <CGz04M.222@genoa.com>
In-reply-to: alex@cs.umd.edu's message of Wed, 24 Nov 1993 00:31:34 GMT
> Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes
CWS> Moral: be careful with rm!!!
>>>>> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) replies
AB> or even better, get in the habit of using the recycler, even if
AB> you are an _expert_. its an extra step, but its reversible.
I alias rm so that it moves files to the recycler. Here is a zsh
function that accomplishes this.
rm () { mv -f $* ~/.NeXT/.NextTrash }
Gisli
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From: gysin@mugwump.ucsd.edu (Reality)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CD-sampling (a summary of replies)
Date: 23 Nov 1993 23:29:18 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Message-ID: <2cu6ceINNdh2@network.ucsd.edu>
Some six months or so ago, I posted the following question and then
promptly lost access to News. I'm living up to my NetResponsibility by
(belatedly) posting the answers I got. I won't summarize them, because
the answers solutions are too significantly different to compress.
My original question:
>Howdy. This is a potentially stupid question, but here goes:
>
>Can anyone suggest what kind of software and hardware I might use to
> create sound files using a Compact Disc as the source? I essentially
> want to do some "sampling".
>
> I've seen CD-ROM players hooked up to NeXTs, but they seem to only
> have two capabilities: 1) read CD-ROM data and 2) *play* CDs through
> the NeXT speakers (or through the RCA jacks into a stereo system).
> I want to be able to read the data on a music CD into .snd, .au, or
> any other NeXT-playable sound file.
Here are the responses:
------------------------------------------------------------
From: t19@nikhef.nl (Geert J v Oldenborgh)
I have a CDat box manufactured by a guy in Berlin for ~ $800,= which
allows you to hook up the CD (or DAT) to the DSP port. It works. Make
sure you have plenty of disk space, though, and I am not sure the price is
worth it.
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
------------------------------------------------------------
From: brown@quorum.com (Robert E. Brown)
To grab CDROM sound over your SCSI bus, you'll need a CDROM drive that can
do this. So far, there are only a few with this ability -- I know the
Toshiba 3401 and the Apple CD-300 (some Sony mechanism) work. You'll also
need a bit of custom software on your Next.
bob
------------------------------------------------------------
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
One way is to use hardware like the Ariel Digital Microphone (has
stereo input lines for your audio source) or Digital Ears and use
software like Soundworks to control the process. You can select a
range of sound configurations from 8 khz mono to 22 khz or 44.1 khz
stereo or 88 khz mono. I believe there might be some apps on the
archives somewhere that allow all sorts of other processing with the
sounds you sample. I did a lot of this when I first bought my NeXT
several years ago, but the equipment has been gathering dust since
then. Hope this helps you get started.
------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 93 20:37:17 -0400
From: Glenn Brown <gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu>
CDROM drives are designed not to allow this. To make a CDROM drive, you
must get a license from Sony, which prohibits the manufacture of CDROM
drives that read the audio data directly.
The only ways I know of getting samples straight off of CD is:
1) Get a CD player with digital out and connect it to an interface that
connects to the NeXT DSP port and will allow the data to be recorded
digitally. (A source for such a device is mentioned in the Info dialog
box in the MonsterScope freeware app.) 2) By the recording on DAT tape and
use a DAT drive that can read the audio directly. These do exist.
--Glenn
------------------------------------------------------------
From: S. Port <scp@math.ucla.edu>
Carl Edman at cedman@princeton.edu posted a while back about
how he wrote a short program allowing his NeXT to read data
off CD audios and playback via DSP. He used a Toshiba 3401
CD-ROM to achieve this. Just remember, certain uses of this
may be illegal, if you are writing music.
Please post your results and/or email me. I'd appreciate what
you dig up.
Charlie Dvorak
------------------------------------------------------------
From: Torsten Belschner <belsaggc@w272zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
You will merely need one piece of hardware -- provided you still use
black hardware and want to do 44kHz, 16bit sampling. Connect one of
the several available audio-interfaces (digital ears, RDAT etc.) to
the DSP-port and sample to disk from your HiFi-CD-player's digital
out via SoundWorks 3.0 (Metaresearch) or one of those PD editors
floating around (SE, Sonogram) which "work" pretty well.
Rumors are spread that an even more sophisticated sampling software,
MetroTracks (MetroSoft), although renounced several times, is going
to come up in late summer. This is going to be a real
hard-disk-recording software, not a mere sample editor.
-----
Torsten Belschner
belsaggc@w271zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de
------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks to all for all the input. Any other comments?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Problems with Etherlink III?
Message-ID: <1993Nov24.040413.6776@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Nov23.205458.1230@rrz.de>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 04:04:13 GMT
In article <1993Nov23.205458.1230@rrz.de> fl1ger@rrz.de (Ralf Weber) writes:
> Scott S. Bertilson writes
> > We ditched it and got an Intel EtherExpress in its place. No more
> > panics and network activity works, BUT...
> > NS3.1 refuses to see the card in anything but 8 bit mode
> > I received suggestions from NeXT (change slots, remove other boards
> > from machine) and a claim that this should improve under 3.2, but
> > accompanied by ominous comments about how it isn't entirely a NeXT
> > problem.
> You have the updated driver for 3.1 from NeXTAnswers have you?!!
>
> We had the same panic, etc. problems with the 3Com and switched to
> Intel, but the 8-bit problem went away when we installed the new driver
> from NeXTAnswers. You can easily find out if you have it, by doing the
> following:
> Start up, Configure.app, then click network-card. You should see three
> buttons on the bottom of the window labled "BNC", "AUI" and "RJ-45". If
> you don't see this button you probably have the wrong driver.
The updated driver didn't help in some Gateway systems I've seen; they
still boot in "8-bit only" mode.
--
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PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Undelete utility needed
Message-ID: <CGz8ss.1Er@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
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Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 03:38:51 GMT
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 23-Nov-93 Undelete utility
needed by Saurabh Jha@husc9.harvard.edu
# I accidentally rm'ed some files on a NeXTstation (NS 3.1). Does anyone
# know of an undelete utility (like on Macs or PC's) that is publicly
# available?
Well it's too late now but for the future alias rm to either a move command or
alias rm to rm -i in your .cshrc.
This will have rm ask you if you really want to delete the file before
it gets deleted.
THe other option is only use the recycler to get rid of files.
You can always go back and get your data until you empty it.
Kent
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From: philip@nexus.yorku.ca (Phil McDunnough)
Subject: SMC Elite16- Ultra
Message-ID: <CGzJ57.MC@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Originator: philip@nexus.yorku.ca
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 07:22:18 GMT
Is the SMC Elite 16- Ultra (10B-T, part # 8216) supported by NS/Intel? This
is a newer version of the SMC Elite 16 (8013).
Also, on an ISA system with an Adaptec 1542CF, can one add more than 16megs
to the computer and have NS see it all? The system I have has IDE on a VLB,
but I just got the Adaptec and was thinking of perhaps adding a HD.
Please reply via e-mail to philip@utstat.toronto.edu, as I have no access to
this group for now. Thank's ...
Forgot. Can one have more than 2 serial ports? And must they be the faster
comm ports?
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: philip@nexus.yorku.ca (Phil McDunnough)
Subject: Hercules Dynamite Pro (2meg-VLB)
Message-ID: <CGzJEo.sC@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
Originator: philip@nexus.yorku.ca
Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 07:27:59 GMT
More questions, and I have read all the guides!...The VLB Hercules
Dynamite Pro is based on the ET4000w32i. Can one get 8 bit grey scale
at any resolution at all (eg. 1024x768)? Or must one settle for 2 bit
grey...?
There are dozens of cards based on the S3 chip. Do they all work? Can
someone name one which won't?
Please reply to philip@utstat.toronto.edu directly. Thank's,
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director)
Subject: Re: Intel GX sources
Message-ID: <CGyHvJ.II2@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Keywords: ANDI,Pro GX,Intel
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <scratch.753433933@alcor.sce.carleton.ca>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 17:57:19 GMT
In article <scratch.753433933@alcor.sce.carleton.ca>
scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) writes:
> Kevin, FYI
>
> marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director) writes:
>
I just returned from COMDEX and will have info on the Pro GX in the
next couple days.
---
Bill Strehl
Executive Director
ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc.
reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org
"Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
Subject: Re: Do NeXTstations work with 230V ?
Message-ID: <1993Nov23.221745.6106@joker.fdn.org>
Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org
Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France.
References: <2ctkp4INNoco@xs4all.hacktic.nl>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 22:17:45 GMT
In article <2ctkp4INNoco@xs4all.hacktic.nl> ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri
Tuomola) writes:
> I might be buying a NeXTstation (just because black computers is so cool
;-)
> but now I have found one thing that can cause problems.
>
> I would probably buy it from the US, because for some reason they are
not
> too common here in Europe. In fact, I have seen so far one advertisment
for
> used NeXTstation for sale within Europe. Great.
>
> So, the problem is: do NeXTstations have a power supply that can be
switched
> to use 230V instead of 110V? I think also the frequency of electricity
is
> different. And what about the monitors - can you use one with 230V?
>
> Thanks for info,
>
> Petri
>
> --
>
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--
> Petri Tuomola (root@echelon.hacktic.nl) (ptuomola@hacktic.nl)
> "Get stoned - drink wet concrete" HAM: OH2LJY
No problemo. It switches automagically. I have used NextStations and Cubes
in the U.S., in France, in Russia and Lithuania without any problems,
ever. I believe it is supposed to work in the 100-250 V and 50-60 Hz
range.
Check your manuals...
Ed.
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ed@joker.fdn.org "Microsoft doesn't exist."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: The continuing sage of the 500M disk on an '030 Cube
Message-ID: <espritCGzp50.72y@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 09:31:48 GMT
When we last left our hero, he had purchased and installed a Quantum
LPS525S in his Next 68030 Cube. This resulted in sporadic "Message
Reject" messages from the drive, which made the drive useless. We
now rejoin the adventure ...
Well, I took the Quantum drive back to NCA and exchanged it for a
Fujitsu M2624FA (520 Meg). After I installed the drive in the Cube,
I booted up on OD and successfully built and installed a system on the
Fujitsu drive. However, when I tried to boot off of the Fujitsu ...
SCSI unexpected msg: 1
sc: Unexpected msg
This was from the ROM Monitor after issuing a bsd command (and variations).
I booted up the OD again and I was able to mount and access the Fujitsu. I
am just not to boot off of it. Could it be the ROMs? The ROM version is
1.0 (v41).
Any ideas?
If it is the ROMs, is there a source for newer ROMs?
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esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer and
allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Why are only 2 CDROMS supported under NS/FIP
In-Reply-To: joe@FreemanSoft.com's message of Wed, 24 Nov 1993 02:08:38 GMT
To: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Nov23221946@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Nov24.020838.17979@FreemanSoft.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 03:19:46 GMT
In article <1993Nov24.020838.17979@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) writes:
The useless (Nov 14, 1993) compatability guide only lists the external
NeXT CDROM, no longer made and the external NEC-74. This means that no
internal CD-ROMs are "supported" under NEXTSTEP. Maybe its just me, but
it would seem that they should be able to qualify other drives against the
release!
The reason for that is simple. SCSI CD ROM drives today are almost as
standardized as SCSI hard disks. While many of the more modern drives
will offer extra capabilities virtually SCSI CD ROM drive on the
market will work, much as virtually any SCSI hard disk will work.
There have to be 1/2 a dozen drives that are currently very common. Off
the top of my head, it would seem that the following should be supported
or at least mentioned:
Texel 3028
This has been reported as working.
Toshiba 3401B
I've tested this one myself. It works.
NEC 84 (internal 74?)
Yes. Same electronics as the 74, so if the 74 works, so does the 84.
NEC 3XI/3XE (triple spin)
These are just a little too new for any reports, but I'd expect them
to work.
TEAC CD-50
Apple CD-300 (SONY CDU-561?)
a.s.o., a.s.o., a.s.o.....
I understand why video boards and disk controllers take longer to add to
the release. But its hard to see what the excuse is for the lack of
CD-ROM drives in the guide.
That section should be completely removed and replaced with the simple
remark that any standard SCSI CD ROM will work.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,andi.misc
From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director)
Subject: Re: SCSI driver-Intel
Message-ID: <CGzw8o.2tF@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Keywords: ANDI,Pro GX,NeXTSTEP
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <CGyzr8.Bv3@kaiwan.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 12:05:12 GMT
In article <CGyzr8.Bv3@kaiwan.com> chipsig@kaiwan.com (<Chip> H.
Sieglinger) writes:
> Does anyone know if the external SCSI on the Intel Workstation GX
works under
> NS 3.2?
>
Yes. It does. ...and you can boot from an external SCSI drive.
---
Bill Strehl
Executive Director
ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc.
reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org
"Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
From: jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Do NeXTstations work with 230V ?
Date: 24 Nov 1993 08:00:10 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311241459.AA24342@di.uminho.pt>
>So, the problem is: do NeXTstations have a power supply that can be
>switched
>to use 230V instead of 110V? I think also the frequency of
>electricity is
>different. And what about the monitors - can you use one with 230V?
Hi, Petri
NeXTstations can be powered with both 110 and 230V. There is no
problem.
BUT, if you really don't want to have any problems, it's better to
buy one in Europe!...I can sell it for you! Brand new Turbo stations!
For a fair price, of course.
Jorge.
From: tvendeli@vipunen.hut.fi (Timo Vendelin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Compatibility: Comapaq and SCSI
Date: 24 Nov 1993 14:03:47 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2cvpk3$kfv@nntp.hut.fi>
Keywords: Compability, Compaq, NeXTstep, SCSI
Originator: tvendeli@vipunen.hut.fi
Hello,
NeXT's Compatilibity Guide (Realese 3.2 date Nov 14, 1993) has
in SCSI HardDisk Interfaces list just Adaptec, Bus Logic and DPT.
In Compaq Deskpro M-Series (it is in the Guide) Compaq is offering
own "Compaq 32-bit Fast-SCSI-2 Controller". That is the name what I
get, no specific model number ! I think there exist just one card from
Compaq, which is 32-bit and fast-SCSI-2.
I am now wondering, if somebody have experience of that card with
NeXTstep ? WILL IT WORK WITH NeXTstep OR NOT ?
Best regards,
Timo Vendelin
Internet: timo.vendelin@ntc.nokia.com
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From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmincomp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: (rtf) REQUEST: Collecting benchmarks of NEXTSTEP compatible systems
Date: 24 Nov 1993 15:41:54 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <2cvvc2$o84@menudo.uh.edu>
Keywords: archive, UHOOP, benchmark, update
NEXTSTEP Benchmarks
University of Houston
Engineering Computing Center
contact: benchmarks@tree.egr.uh.edu
INTRO:
Last June we made an attempt to benchmark various NEXTSTEP 3.x
configurations with hopes to provide some kind of reasonable
information to the NEXTSTEP community. We evaluated systems from
Compaq, Epson, Gateway2000, Dell, and NeXT (used as a control) and
used the benchmark programs NXBench and Benchpress. Our results were
rather interesting to say the least and we came to the conclusion
that benchmarks aren't worth the diskspace they are stored on....
So, in spirit of our last endeavor, we would like to update our
"benchmark" archive since there are now many more NEXTSTEP 3.x
compatible systems than there were in June, 1993. Also, some vendors
have optimized their hardware and thus the old benchmarks are no
longer accurate or in slightest representative. In addition NeXT has
released a few updated drivers (mainly video) which, it seems in some
cases, to have significantly increased video performance.
This is a request for benchmark data. But, before you submit your
information, please follow these guidelines:
1) Please use the template at the end of this message or grab it off
our archive site.
2) Please mail all results to me via NeXTmail.
3) Please only use the "supported" benchmark programs, NXBench,
Benchpress and. DrivePerformance. If you have a benchmark program
that you would like to use, please send
us a copy so that it can be made available to the public.
4) Please provide all the information that is requested on the
template. We would like to be as fair and accurate as possible.
Please understand that these benchmarks are only "general" guidelines
of a system's performance. We have found that many times the results
will be different each time the benchmark is run and this is on the
same system. We claim no responsiblity for the accuracy of this
information and it is provided only as a service to the general
NEXTSTEP community.
LOCATION OF BENCHMARK ARCHIVES AND APPLICATIONS:
FTP:
uhoop.egr.uh.edu:/pub/misc/BenchMarks
GOPHER:
gopher.uh.edu 70 ->
Other UH Gopher Servers ->
Univ. of Houston Engineering ... ->
UHOOP archive... ->
pub -> misc -> BenchMarks
SUBMISSION OF RESULTS:
Run each of the benchmark programs. We would like a "snapshot" of
the results, so you might need to use Grab.app (/NextApps/Grab.app)
to grab the window and include it in the mail message.
Please use the template as it makes it much easier for us to process
the information. All information received will be placed in the
archive that is listed below and will be stored in PostScript
format, which is the only way we can ensure that the results are not
altered. Next, email the results via NeXTmail to
benchmarks@tree.egr.uh.edu
RESULTS TEMPLATE:
VENDOR: DATE
Model:
CPU:
ClockSpeed:
Harddrive:
VideoDriver:
VideoHardware
VideoRes:
<insert hostinfo here (/usr/bin/hostinfo)>
<insert screenshot of Benchpress screen>
<insert screenshot of DrivePerformance>
<insert screenshot of NXBench>
If you want to see an example, please grab SampleResults.ps.Z off the
archive
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From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: REQUEST: Collecting benchmarks of NEXTSTEP compatible systems
Date: 24 Nov 1993 15:41:57 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <2cvvc5$o85@menudo.uh.edu>
Keywords: archive, UHOOP, benchmark, update
NEXTSTEP Benchmarks
University of Houston
Engineering Computing Center
contact: benchmarks@tree.egr.uh.edu
INTRO:
Last June we made an attempt to benchmark various NEXTSTEP 3.x
configurations with hopes to provide some kind of reasonable information to
the NEXTSTEP community. We evaluated systems from Compaq, Epson,
Gateway2000, Dell, and NeXT (used as a control) and used the benchmark
programs NXBench and Benchpress. Our results were rather interesting to say
the least and we came to the conclusion that benchmarks aren't worth the
diskspace they are stored on....
So, in spirit of our last endeavor, we would like to update our "benchmark"
archive since there are now many more NEXTSTEP 3.x compatible systems than
there were in June, 1993. Also, some vendors have optimized their hardware
and thus the old benchmarks are no longer accurate or in slightest
representative. In addition NeXT has released a few updated drivers (mainly
video) which, it seems in some cases, to have significantly increased video
performance.
This is a request for benchmark data. But, before you submit your
information, please follow these guidelines:
1) Please use the template at the end of this message or grab it off our
archive site.
2) Please mail all results to me via NeXTmail.
3) Please only use the "supported" benchmark programs, NXBench, Benchpress
and. DrivePerformance. If you have a benchmark program that you would like
to use, please send us a copy so that it can be made available to the
public.
4) Please provide all the information that is requested on the template.
We would like to be as fair and accurate as possible.
Please understand that these benchmarks are only "general" guidelines of a
system's performance. We have found that many times the results will be
different each time the benchmark is run and this is on the same system.
We claim no responsiblity for the accuracy of this information and it is
provided only as a service to the general NEXTSTEP community.
LOCATION OF BENCHMARK ARCHIVES AND APPLICATIONS:
FTP:
uhoop.egr.uh.edu:/pub/misc/BenchMarks
GOPHER:
gopher.uh.edu 70 ->
Other UH Gopher Servers ->
Univ. of Houston Engineering ... ->
UHOOP archive... ->
pub -> misc -> BenchMarks
SUBMISSION OF RESULTS:
Run each of the benchmark programs. We would like a "snapshot" of the
results, so you might need to use Grab.app (/NextApps/Grab.app) to grab the
window and include it in the mail message.
Please use the template as it makes it much easier for us to process the
information. All information received will be placed in the archive that is
listed below and will be stored in PostScript format, which is the only way
we can ensure that the results are not altered. Next, email the results via
NeXTmail to
benchmarks@tree.egr.uh.edu
RESULTS TEMPLATE:
VENDOR: DATE
Model:
CPU:
ClockSpeed:
Harddrive:
VideoDriver:
VideoHardware
VideoRes:
<insert hostinfo here (/usr/bin/hostinfo)>
<insert screenshot of Benchpress screen>
<insert screenshot of DrivePerformance>
<insert screenshot of NXBench>
If you want to see an example, please grab SampleResults.ps.Z off the
archive
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Fujitsu MO & NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Nov24.124251.28054@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <2cu0na$lj5@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 12:42:51 GMT
In article <2cu0na$lj5@news.doit.wisc.edu> fosdal@phenxm.physics.wisc.edu
writes:
> Does anybody know if the fujitsu magneto-optical drive will work under
> NeXTStep/Intel?
> --
> Steven R. Fosdal UW-Madison Physics Dept.
> NeXT System 1150 University Ave, Madison WI 53706
> Management Phone: (608)262-8947 Fax: (608)262-8628
> fosdal@phenxm.physics.wisc.edu (NeXT mail o.k.)
I experience a strange behavior on Fuji 3,5" 128Meg:
It does not work on black hardware NS3.1 (incomplete disk transfer)
It does work on Intel NS 3.2
I will try on black with 3.2 and post the results
--Fabien
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Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted)
Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering
3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France,
Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: The continuing sage of the 500M disk on an '030 Cube
Message-ID: <1993Nov24.124840.28118@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <espritCGzp50.72y@netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 12:48:40 GMT
In article <espritCGzp50.72y@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
writes:
>
> When we last left our hero, he had purchased and installed a Quantum
> LPS525S in his Next 68030 Cube. This resulted in sporadic "Message
> Reject" messages from the drive, which made the drive useless. We
> now rejoin the adventure ...
>
> Well, I took the Quantum drive back to NCA and exchanged it for a
> Fujitsu M2624FA (520 Meg). After I installed the drive in the Cube,
> I booted up on OD and successfully built and installed a system on the
> Fujitsu drive. However, when I tried to boot off of the Fujitsu ...
>
> SCSI unexpected msg: 1
> sc: Unexpected msg
>
> This was from the ROM Monitor after issuing a bsd command (and
variations).
>
> I booted up the OD again and I was able to mount and access the Fujitsu.
I
> am just not to boot off of it. Could it be the ROMs? The ROM version
is
> 1.0 (v41).
>
> Any ideas?
>
> If it is the ROMs, is there a source for newer ROMs?
>
> --
>
----------------------------+---------------------------------------------
--
> Alan F. Perry | Life is short, but by achieving greater
speeds
> esprit@netcom.com (home) | a man can make his life a little longer
and
> allan@lynx.com (work) | more affluent - Soichiro Honda
You will have to disable the Target initiated synchronous transfer
negotiation jumper on the Fuji, that will cure the problem.
--Fabien
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Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering
3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France,
Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
From: hibbitt@strings1.ph.qmw.ac.uk (John Hibbitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with Etherlink III?
Date: 24 Nov 1993 15:48:31 GMT
Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK
Message-ID: <2cvvof$gqc@beta.qmw.ac.uk>
References: <CGvKwH.AMC@news2.cis.umn.edu>
For what it's worth...
We have one in a Dell 466ME running NSI 3.1. Although it's an ISA card
we put it in one of the EISA slots and it has given us no trouble over
the last 2 months or so.
--
John Hibbitt
Dept of Physics, Queen Mary & Westfield College (University of London)
Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, United Kingdom
Email: J.Hibbitt@qmw.ac.uk (including NeXTMail)
Tel: +44 71-975-5055
From: sears@uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SMC Elite16- Ultra
Date: 24 Nov 1993 15:53:41 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <2d0025$peh@menudo.uh.edu>
References: <CGzJ57.MC@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>
In article <CGzJ57.MC@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> philip@nexus.yorku.ca (Phil
McDunnough) writes:
#Is the SMC Elite 16- Ultra (10B-T, part # 8216) supported by NS/Intel? This
#is a newer version of the SMC Elite 16 (8013).
#
(I am posting this to this newsgroup, in addition to replying for everyone's
benefit)
After talking with SMC's tech support, the conclusion is that the Ultra will
not work under NEXTSTEP with the SMC Elite16 Driver. Basically, SMC states
that the new drivers for the Ultra will work with the Ultra and the Elite16,
but the Elite16 drivers WILL NOT work with the Ultra. I verified this
myself with DOS, Windows NT and NEXTSTEP with the same results.
So, for now, the card is NOT NEXTSTEP compatible. But, maybe one day...
#
#Philip McDunnough
#University of Toronto
#philip@utstat.toronto.edu
#
--
Paul S. Sears * sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston * suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center * comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration * DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC
>>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: Why are only 2 CDROMS supported under NS/FIP
Message-ID: <1993Nov24.123111.18753@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
References: <CEDMAN.93Nov23221946@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 12:31:11 GMT
In article <CEDMAN.93Nov23221946@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> In article <1993Nov24.020838.17979@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com
(Joe Freeman) writes:
> The useless (Nov 14, 1993) compatability guide only lists the
> external NeXT CDROM, no longer made and the external NEC-74. This
> means that no internal CD-ROMs are "supported" under NEXTSTEP. Maybe
> its just me, but it would seem that they should be able to qualify
> other drives against the release!
>
> The reason for that is simple. SCSI CD ROM drives today are almost as
> standardized as SCSI hard disks. While many of the more modern drives
> will offer extra capabilities virtually SCSI CD ROM drive on the
> market will work, much as virtually any SCSI hard disk will work.
I'd agree with you except that your answer doesn't appear to be correct.
We all know that there were problems with certain combinations of
controllers and CD drives. As an example, the NeXT drive didn't work with
the DPT controller for a while. Additionally, it would be nice to know
NeXT's support level for audio and multi-spin drive features.
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
Voice: 919.783.7033
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bff@csn.org (Brendan Forsyth)
Subject: DPT and 2 drives
Message-ID: <CH08sK.5tw@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 16:36:18 GMT
I need help getting 2 drives to work with NS/FIP and my DPT controller.
I have the system operational with one drive (Micropolis 525Mbyte) and I
want to add a 200Mbyte Conner (CP3200f I think). When the system boots
it reports the devices it sees but it doesn't see the Conner.
I remember seeing some postings about others complaining about the NeXT
driver for DPT controllers.
Thanks
Brendan
From: chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 2 IDE HD with NS/I 3.1
Date: 24 Nov 1993 17:58:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2d07ck$ijb@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Would I be able to install NS/i on a machine with first IDE HD 120MB and second
IDE HDE 240MB? Is the first HD too small for the NS to boot?
Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: DPT and 2 drives
Message-ID: <CH0FyK.9Cr@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <CH08sK.5tw@csn.org>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 19:11:08 GMT
In article <CH08sK.5tw@csn.org> bff@csn.org (Brendan Forsyth) writes:
>I need help getting 2 drives to work with NS/FIP and my DPT controller.
>
>I have the system operational with one drive (Micropolis 525Mbyte) and I
>want to add a 200Mbyte Conner (CP3200f I think). When the system boots
>it reports the devices it sees but it doesn't see the Conner.
>
>I remember seeing some postings about others complaining about the NeXT
>driver for DPT controllers.
>
>Thanks
>Brendan
>
>
I've used to DPT 2022 board on 3 different drives with no problems.
I've only seen 1 drive that was brain-dead on the DPT (you guessed
it.) Conners. They are brain-dead with true SCSI 2 cpliant controllers.
When the system was first booted with a single Conners drive, it
looked for drives and found 7 200MB partitions. Yup, the controller
@ 7 and the conners responding at 0-6. Totally unusable. I'm
not sure if the new +1GB Conners drives have this problem. Try
a Seagate, or Fujitsu or almost any from the set of SCSI2 drives
that is not from Conners.
Sorry, but the Conners 200 is toast.
--
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\_/ (_\/ Voice: (617) 861-5579 pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove".
) NeXTMail O.K.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: Problems with Etherlink III?
Message-ID: <CH0GAL.A5B@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sender: news@news2.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
Organization: The Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
References: <CGvKwH.AMC@news2.cis.umn.edu> <1993Nov23.205458.1230@rrz.de>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 19:13:29 GMT
In article <1993Nov23.205458.1230@rrz.de>, Ralf Weber <fl1ger@rrz.de> wrote:
>You have the updated driver for 3.1 from NeXTAnswers have you?!!
I hadn't known about this, but I just loaded it and it announces
that it is "Second Generation", but it also announces:
EtherExpress16: 8 bit only
GRRRR! (It does include the extra buttons for selection of medium
when configuring.)
Scott S. Bertilson
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: guitar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Evan Schofer)
Subject: Re: Help with Quantum ELS170S
Message-ID: <1993Nov24.202705.6311@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
References: <2cogcq$q2i@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> <1993Nov22.110541.20561@free.fdn.org>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 93 20:27:05 GMT
Allright,
there seems to be a significant body of knowledge about the
"mode select" problems with certain SCSI hard drive mechanisms...
Can anyone elaborate on this problem, and perhaps offer a solution?
Can such problems (listed below) be fixed using a Mac, if there's no
way to do it from a next???
Thanks Much
Evan Schofer
guitar@leland.stanford.edu
>> :>Hello!
>> :> I'm trying to initialize a QUANTUM ELS170S on a NextStation. The
>> :>disk was originally formatted as a Macintosh disk, and could be read
>> :>by my next. However, attempts to initialize/build it as a NeXT
>> :>disk have failed with the following errors. (listed below)
>> :> How can I initialize this disk? Also, I hope to use the disk on
>> :>a macintosh in the future. Will formatting it for my NeXT make it
>> :>unformattable on a mac?
>>
>> :>sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
>retry 2
>>
>> :>sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
>retry 3
>>
>> :>sd2: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1e00, resid = 0x1c48,
>retry 4
>>
[munch]
>>
>> I've had the same problem with a DEC RZ-55 on my cube. I know it's a
>> problem with the select/deselect options of the disk but don't know the
>right
>> values to use. To set them I had to take the disk to a
>DECstation...NeXT
>> doesn't seem to supply a tool for changing these parameters.
>> This almost seems to be becomming a FAQ--maybe someone can post the
>> correct values for buffer full/empty ratios and bus idle time? I've
>> seem about four requests (including mine) for this info in the last few
>> weeks.
>>
[munch]
>
>This has been cured on IBM 1Gb 3,5" hard drive by enabling the untaged
>queing bit. Unfortunatly this modeselect page was IBM vendor unique.
>
>
>--Fabien
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMails accepted)
>Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering
>3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France,
>Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Why are only 2 CDROMS supported under NS/FIP
In-Reply-To: joe@FreemanSoft.com's message of Wed, 24 Nov 1993 12:31:11 GMT
To: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Nov24141928@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CEDMAN.93Nov23221946@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<1993Nov24.123111.18753@FreemanSoft.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 19:19:28 GMT
In article <1993Nov24.123111.18753@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman) writes:
In article <CEDMAN.93Nov23221946@capitalist.princeton.edu>
cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
> In article <1993Nov24.020838.17979@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com
(Joe Freeman) writes:
> The useless (Nov 14, 1993) compatability guide only lists the
> external NeXT CDROM, no longer made and the external NEC-74. This
> means that no internal CD-ROMs are "supported" under NEXTSTEP. Maybe
> its just me, but it would seem that they should be able to qualify
> other drives against the release!
>
> The reason for that is simple. SCSI CD ROM drives today are almost as
> standardized as SCSI hard disks. While many of the more modern drives
> will offer extra capabilities virtually SCSI CD ROM drive on the
> market will work, much as virtually any SCSI hard disk will work.
I'd agree with you except that your answer doesn't appear to be correct.
We all know that there were problems with certain combinations of
controllers and CD drives. As an example, the NeXT drive didn't work with
the DPT controller for a while. Additionally, it would be nice to know
NeXT's support level for audio and multi-spin drive features.
Now controllers, controllers are an entirely different matter. Only a
relatively small number of them work and all of those are listed in
the compatibility guide. Even slightly different versions of
controllers listed in the guide or controllers claiming to be
compatible with controllers in the guide very likely will not work.
But the reason for that is that there is no interface standard for
controllers. For SCSI CD ROM drives there is and so incompatibilities
with them are as rare as e.g. with SCSI hard disks.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Subject: Re: Do NeXTstations work with 230V ?
Message-ID: <CGzouG.5pD@belly.in-berlin.de>
Sender: usenet@belly.in-berlin.de
Organization: - none -
References: <2ctkp4INNoco@xs4all.hacktic.nl>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 09:25:27 GMT
In article <2ctkp4INNoco@xs4all.hacktic.nl> ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri
Tuomola) writes:
[...]
> So, the problem is: do NeXTstations have a power supply that can be
switched
> to use 230V instead of 110V? I think also the frequency of electricity
is
> different. And what about the monitors - can you use one with 230V?
NeXTstations have a power supply which can use any voltage between
110V-240V and the different frequencies. The B/W monitor is
supplied via the computer, but if you're thinking about getting a
Colorstation, check with the selling person if the monitor is switchable
between voltages.
--
Axel Habermann \\|// "Wenn Du nicht
kiwi@belly.in-berlin.de (NeXT-Mail) )o o( weisst was Du
kiwi@cs.tu-berlin.de (NO NeXT-Mail) \ | / tust, mach's
FaxFon: +49 30 4543046 \~/ mit Eleganz!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: c4craig@csn.org (Craig Anderson)
Subject: NS/I serial card?
Message-ID: <CH0szy.6os@csn.org>
Sender: news@csn.org (The Daily Planet)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 23:52:45 GMT
Are any intelligent multiport cards supported for NS/I 3.2?
Craig H. Anderson
C4 Network, Inc.
518 17th Street, Suite 1400
Denver, CO 80202
(303) 825-8183
FAX (303) 893-6510
c4craig@csn.org
From: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: TI MicroWriter PS23 with NeXT black hardware?
Date: 24 Nov 1993 19:00:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199311250100.CAA15633@grasp.insa-lyon.fr>
Bonjour!
Does anybody already use laser printer TI MicroWriter PS23 with NeXT black hardware?
I would be interested in your experiances, but also will appreciate to all informations and any suggestions.
Merci d'avance.
From: asteindl@mch2ws2.tuwien.ac.at (Alois Steindl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Undelete utility needed
Date: 25 Nov 1993 08:39:55 GMT
Organization: Inst. f. Mechanics II, TU Vienna
Message-ID: <ASTEINDL.93Nov25093957@mch2ws2.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <UgwOL0y00iV4MFOptu@andrew.cmu.edu> <CGz04M.222@genoa.com>
In-reply-to: gisli@duffing.eecs.umich.edu's message of 24 Nov 1993 04:25:46 GMT
Hello,
In article <GISLI.93Nov23232547@duffing.eecs.umich.edu> gisli@duffing.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson) writes:
I alias rm so that it moves files to the recycler. Here is a zsh
function that accomplishes this.
rm () { mv -f $* ~/.NeXT/.NextTrash }
Gisli
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gisli Ottarsson
Grad Student and a Gentleman
Delenda est Carthago.
University of Michigan
gisli@umich.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<GISLI.93Nov23232547@duffing.eecs.umich.edu>
in the FAQ for Unix it is stated that it is not a good idea to alias
'rm', because you get used to this behaviour; on a different machine
it may not be aliased and you will delete files unrecoverably!
Better alias 'del' or something else to the required behaviour. If it
isn't there on other machines you will more likely get a warning.
Best wishes
Alois
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Alois Steindl, Tel.: +43 (1) 58801 / 5529
Inst. for Mechanics II, Fax.: +43 (1) 5875863
TU Vienna,
A-1040 Wiedner Hauptstr. 8-10
___________________________________________________________________________
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 25 Nov 1993 02:48:50 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2d1o12$824@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
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From: schmo1@info.isbiel.ch (Olivier Schmid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Video Card for NS 3.1
Date: 25 Nov 1993 12:24:42 GMT
Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2d286a$9p0@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
I'm searching a video card for NS. It should work with a 50 MHz Localbus
(not only 33) and should display 1024 x 768 with a refresh rate of at least 72 Hz non interlaced.
Can someone help me ? I know that the ATI Ultra Pro doesn't work with 50 MHz. Is there a driver for the P9000 (Weitek) Chip ?
Thanks Olivier
From: shukin@jester.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Terminal and NeXTstep
Date: 25 Nov 1993 14:30:36 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <2d2fic$l1f@tribune.usask.ca>
I am wondering if it is possible to connect a terminal to the serial port
of a 486 running NeXTstep? If so, how would one go about doing it?
Thanks in advance
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From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: metaresearch
Message-ID: <1993Nov25.145633.22204@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 14:56:33 GMT
I looked in the latest NS catalog and they no longer list hardware
products for black hardware. Does anyon know if metareseach is still in
in buisness and if they support 3.0/3.2?
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
Voice: 919.783.7033
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: HSD's UMAX scanner -- problems...
Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET/crash), San Diego, CA
Date: 25 Nov 93 09:53:30 PST
Message-ID: <1993Nov25.095331.9507@crash>
We bought HSD's "package #3" recently (24bit color scanner, PowerScan,
PowerFax, PowerCopy) and we've found that since installing NS3.2 for
NeXT computers, we can no longer scan in images at more than 50dpi!
It works fine at 50dpi, but 72 or higher, no way. Worked fine in NS3.1.
This is on a NeXTstation with 16MB RAM, 400MB drive, running NS3.2, and
only the scanner as the single SCSI external device connected.
Anyone have any suggestions?
- bd
/ brian dear / coconut computing, inc / brian@coconut.com /
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-sampling (a summary of replies)
Date: 25 Nov 1993 20:07:55 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2d33ar$si@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <2cu6ceINNdh2@network.ucsd.edu>
In article <2cu6ceINNdh2@network.ucsd.edu> reality@ucsd.edu writes:
>Some six months or so ago, I posted the following question and then
>promptly lost access to News. I'm living up to my NetResponsibility by
>(belatedly) posting the answers I got. I won't summarize them, because
>the answers solutions are too significantly different to compress.
>
>My original question:
>
>>Howdy. This is a potentially stupid question, but here goes:
>>
>>Can anyone suggest what kind of software and hardware I might use to
>> create sound files using a Compact Disc as the source? I essentially
>> want to do some "sampling".
>>
>> I've seen CD-ROM players hooked up to NeXTs, but they seem to only
>> have two capabilities: 1) read CD-ROM data and 2) *play* CDs through
>> the NeXT speakers (or through the RCA jacks into a stereo system).
>> I want to be able to read the data on a music CD into .snd, .au, or
>> any other NeXT-playable sound file.
>
>Here are the responses:
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
[DELETED]
I was experimenting with my NeXTstep/Intel system, and I came across a built-
in way of doing this in DOS/Windows:
My hardware includes a Toshiba 3401 SCSI CD-ROM connected to a ProAudio
Spectrum-16 sound card. Using the included MediaPlayer program in Windows
and the PocketRecorder and PocketMixer programs included with the PAS-16,
I can record directly off the cd as a .WAV file. There are options for
setting the sampling rate from 8.0 to 44.1 KHz, mono/stereo, and 8 or 16
bit sampling.
Using the Mixer program, you can change the recording level, balance, bass,
and treble. You can even combine sound from different sources - play music
off the CD-ROM while playing back a wav file or while talking into the
microphone.
I tried making a 4 minute sample at 44.1 KHz, Stereo, 16 bit sampling off an
audio CD. The size of the file was over 44 megs without compression!
Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: olivierl@rb-csd.SanDiego.NCR.COM ()
Subject: HELP ! HELP ! Please, HELP ME !
Message-ID: <1993Nov25.183523.20140@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM>
Sender: news@donner.SanDiegoCA.NCR.COM (News Owner)
Organization: PM&S San Diego
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 18:35:23 GMT
I'm a very new member of the NeXTSTEP environment, and I apologize for my
complete ignorance, but I think I'm in a big trouble.
Last month I bought a NeXT CUBE with this configuration :
68030 25Mhz, 8MB RAM, 600MB HD and an Optical Disk Drive.
The software installed was NeXTSTEP 1.0 (user & developer) and the ROM Level
was also a 1.0.
I wanted to upgrade this configuration to install NeXTSTEP 3.x. That's why
I bought a 68040 25Mhz that I pluged in my CUBE.
My CUBE was working perfect with my 68030.
When I powered on the CUBE I received the following messages :
(The window's title is : "NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 (v66)")
booting SCSI target 0 LUN 0
blk 0 boot sd() sdmach
sc: Didn't complete
sd: target 1 LUN 0 opcode 18
sd: addr 0x43a8848 bcount 66 rdflag 1
sd: sdstatus 0 sdstate 0 resid 66
sc: s5c state 1 status 0x0
sc: intrstatus 0x0 seqstep 0x0
sc: fifo level=7 transfer count 256
sc: command 0x3 config 0x57
sc: dma ctrl 0xa0 dma status 0x1
I received the last 9 lines a few times with a different target # (sc: target n
LUN 0 opcode 18).
At the end it clears the screen and I can read :
Exception #5 (0x14) at 0x100ba84
NeXT>
I worry about having a bad motherboard.
Is it impossible to boot from a NeXTSTEP 1.0 with this kind of board ?
Do I have to wait for a NeXTSTEP 3.x ?
I will be able to borrow a CD-ROM drive to install NeXTSTEP 3.x. What do I have
to change to install NeXTSTEP 3.x ? Do I have to boot from the CD-ROM ? How ?
Do I have to change the SCSI id on my Disk ? What SCSI id I will have to use for
the CD-ROM ?
I just received a NeXTSTEP 3.0 (user & developer) uopened and unregistred, but
when I red the documentation I noticed that it's an upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0.
Can I open this and try to install the 3.0 ?
I'd really appreciate if you could help me.
Thank you very much.
Olivier.
-----
olivier.loscul@sandiegoca.ncr.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: ET4000AX Video Driver Questions
Message-ID: <CH0vHp.B7D@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <1993Nov23.161605.26205@radical2.radical.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 00:46:36 GMT
In article <1993Nov23.161605.26205@radical2.radical.com>
Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung) writes:
>
> I have an old Diamond SpeedSTAR Plus Version 4.23 video card with 1 MB
memory
> and a CrystalScan 1024NI monitor that both came with my 1991 Gateway
2000. The
> video card has an ET4000AX chip on it, but I can't seem to get it to
work with
> the NS/FIP 3.1 ET4000AX driver. It works fine with the 3.1 Standard VGA
> driver. I am suspecting that the 3.1 ET4000AX driver is using
frequencies that
> my monitor can't cope with. Can anyone confirm or deny this assumption?
>
> According to the Gateway documentation on the video card, it can
generate the
> following video signals:
>
> Resolution Horizontal Vertical Mode
> 640 X 480 31.5 KHz 60 Hz Noninterlaced
> 640 X 480 35.4 KHz 69 Hz Noninterlaced
> 640 X 480 37.6 KHz 72 Hz Noninterlaced
> 800 X 600 31.5 KHz 48 Hz Interlaced
> 800 X 600 35.2 KHz 56 Hz Noninterlaced
> 800 X 600 37.9 KHz 60 Hz Noninterlaced
> 800 X 600 48.1 KHz 72 Hz Noninterlaced
> 1024 X 768 31.5 KHz 39 Hz Interlaced
> 1024 X 768 35.5 KHz 44 Hz Interlaced
> 1024 X 768 48.9 KHz 60 Hz Noninterlaced
> 1024 X 768 56.5 KHz 70 Hz Noninterlaced
>
> According to the Gateway documentation on the monitor, it can cope with
the
> following video parameters:
>
> Resolutions
> 640 X 350 720 X 400 640 X 480 800 X 600 1024 X 768
>
> Horizontal Scanning Frequencies
> 31.5 KHz +/- 1.5 KHz 48.0 KHz +/- 1.5 KHZ
>
> Vertical Scanning Frequencies
> 50 to 90 Hz
>
> What frequencies does the NS/FIP 3.1 ET4000AX video driver use? Would a
new
> monitor help me?
>
> NS in 640 X 480 is really BIG. 1024 X 768 would be really NICE. :-)
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> Ralph Jung ( Ralph_Jung@Radical.Com )
> Radical System Solutions, Inc. NeXTmail accepted
> rad~i~cal \'rad-i-kel\ adj. - marked by a considerable departure from
the usual
> or traditional: EXTREME
Hmmmmmmmmm,
Here at our company, we tried to test several videocards for
NSFIP. We saw the diamond-card not working with NeXTSTEP 3.1.
Think that's the same thing with 3.2.
The TSENG-Card normally works with 1024 x 768 with 60 Hz.
Having a close look at the COMPATIBILITY-Guide from NeXT,
TSENG Cards work with 512 KB DRAM ISA. But we discovered,
that there are TSENG-Cards on the market and there are other
TSENG-Cards which do not work. So why? Some manufactures
get the TSENG DAC but do not use the TSENG ROM SYNC BIOS.
The only TSENG VLB-Card I know, working with NEXTSTEP, is
the one from Hercules. (Don't know the exact name, but the
box is orange!! :-)
If you wanna have 2 bit grayscales, buy a TSENG Card. Here
in GERMANY, we have card for less than $ 60.
Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
--
Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________
e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de
Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen
Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: When is S3, S3?
Message-ID: <CGqBD2.7p8@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1993 07:55:50 GMT
There appear to be many S3-805 cards ( and other S3 cards-> eg Quadtel
makes one). Do they all work with NS? Can anyone name one that does? One
that does not? I am not talking about the ones in Dell, etc...
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: SMC Elite 16 Ultra- 10Base-T
Message-ID: <CGyz5q.In0@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1993 00:10:37 GMT
Is this card, which is newer than the 8013 series Elite 16, supported by
NS/Intel? The series number is 8216. It's an ISA card. Thank's...
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NSI installation...
Date: 25 Nov 1993 23:43:49 GMT
Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2d3fvl$bgk@tunix.cubiculum.com>
Keywords: Handbook NSI Installation Boot Floppy
I just got a new toy: a Gateway 2000 Handbook 486DX-2 40MHz, with a 120MB HD.
This is a really cute thing, weighs about 3lbs. Great display (at least for
its size). Just the thing to take with you wherever you go.
The only grief so far is Windows. I could not imagine it is THAT BAD. Even
playing with the control panel, playing MineSweep etc. crashes Windows about
3 times in an hour :-( And yes, it is Windows and not the hardware, since
after Windows crashes, you are at the DOS prompt and can keep working there,
if you are so inclined. Well end of diatribe.
Of course I did not buy this thin to run DOS/Windows, but I hope to get NSI
running on this machine, since it has just about the minimum specs. It should
be fine for running emacs, getting UUCP mail etc.
So here the question: Did anyone manage to install NSI without a CD-ROM, by
doing some strange thing with boot floppies, serial cable, kermit etc.?
If so any hints are welcome.
Also, is it at all possible to get a boot floppy on a 1.44MB disk?
Besides that, if nobody knows how to do that, I might have to take the thing
apart and stick the disk drive (IDE) into a "REAL" PC with NSI, and then run
Builddisk on it, then stick it back...
Thanks. Please send copies of replies by email to me, I might not be able to
keep up with news...
And yes: I will post something, if (or if not) I succeed installing NSI on
that cute little thing... :-)
-- Ronald
==============================================================================
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists
in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the
unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: PAS vs. PSS Sound cards
Message-ID: <rorCH2oot.BKE@netcom.com>
Summary: What is the difference between the PAS 16 and the PSS 16?
Keywords: PAS, PSS, Sound
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 00:14:52 GMT
What is the difference between the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 and the Pro
Studio Spectrum 16? Both are supported by NEXTSTEP 3.2/Intel, right?
I was at FRY's Electronics the other day, and I was looking at the specs
on the boxes, and as far as I can tell there is NO difference, other than
price...and perhaps the Pro Studio comes with more Windows software.
Does Windows software make the PSS more "professional" than the PAS 16? If
so, I would rather save 40 bucks and go with the PAS 16.
Zach
--
ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: Re: Can I use a Texel DM-3024 CD-ROM with NS?
Message-ID: <rorCH2p3F.CDE@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <2cgphl$o16@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <1993Nov19.171634.15781@nosc.mil>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 00:23:39 GMT
Thomas Bell (bell@balata.nosc.mil) wrote:
: I have a Texel DM-3024 and it works great with Nextstep. When I bought one
: several months ago I had to order an upgrade ROM to make the drive
: multi-session and photo-cd capable. The upgrade cost was about $15 (US). The
: Texel CD-ROMs on the shelf today may already have the upgrade. Either way
: you'll want to make sure that it is multi-session and photo-cd ready. Here's
: Texel's phone number if you want more info (408) 980-1838.
But is the Photo-CD capatability supported by NEXTSTEP? I have the Texel
DM-3024, and I was under the impression that I have to use the PAS-16's
SCSI bus to use Photo-CDs (and that isn't supported by NEXTSTEP, is it?)
In other words, if you have an Adaptec 1542c SCSI card, or any other SCSI
interface besides the one that comes with the Pro-Audio Spectrum 16, you
_can_ use the DM-3024 with NEXTSTEP, but it wont work for Photo-CD's.
Am I right about this, or was my dealer lying to me?
--
ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: Re: HSD's UMAX scanner -- problems...
Message-ID: <CH2n2p.49E@beach.com>
Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter)
Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D.
References: <1993Nov25.095331.9507@crash>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 23:40:00 GMT
In article <1993Nov25.095331.9507@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian
Dear) writes:
>
> We bought HSD's "package #3" recently (24bit color scanner,
PowerScan,
> PowerFax, PowerCopy) and we've found that since installing NS3.2
for
> NeXT computers, we can no longer scan in images at more than 50dpi!
>
> It works fine at 50dpi, but 72 or higher, no way. Worked fine in
NS3.1.
>
> This is on a NeXTstation with 16MB RAM, 400MB drive, running NS3.2,
and
> only the scanner as the single SCSI external device connected.
>
I've contacted our engineers and asked them to help solve the
problem. We are closed today (Thanksgiving) and tomorrow but they'll
try to reach you anyway.
I don't think it's a PowerScan problem, though. I came into my office
after reading your mail to try duplicate what you've described and
found that PowerScan works fine under 3.2.
The older version (1.03) I sent you should allow you to scan until
our engineers can reach you and solve the problem.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
Ph. (408) 774-1400
Fax (408) 774-1402
Email: dpeter@hsd.com (NeXTMail)
--
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: HELP: Texel CDROM and NS/I 3.1
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc.
Date: 25 Nov 93 18:56:44 PST
Message-ID: <1993Nov25.185644.11608@crash>
The machine: Intel GX Pro, 16MB RAM, 340MB SCSI internal drive
The OS: NS/I 3.1
The external CD-ROM drive: TEXEL DM-5024 (this drive is self-terminated).
The problem: I am signed on as root. Everything has booted fine. The
TEXEL showed up as SCSI ID #6. I insert the NS3.2 update disk in the
CD-ROM drive, and the little green light turns to orange as the device
starts reading the drive. The mouse cursor goes busy, and then freezes
and the HARD DISK INSIDE SPINS DOWN -- YOU CAN HEAR IT! At this point
the machine is frozen. EEEEK.
I tried it a couple times, changing the SCSI device ID, and I still
get a lockup and the machine hangs. In fact, once I heard the heads of
the hard disk bang up against the side of the drive as if they were
being put into "park" position violently.
Were NS/SPARC available I'd turn this Intel box into an OS/2 machine
and give up on Intel machines once and for all. But since I can't do that
any time soon, anyone have any suggestions for what's causing this problem?
-- bd
/ brian dear / coconut computing, inc / brian@coconut.com /
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: garyc@netcom.com (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: Jumper Settings on the ST1480N
Message-ID: <garycCH34En.Gzw@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 05:54:23 GMT
Hi,
I have recently replaced the NeXT original Seagate 406 MB SCSI disk
in my station with a Fujitsu M2694ESA, the old Seagate drive is now placed
in an external SCSI enclosure. There is a H.D.D. LED connector in the box
. The LED on the front panel flashes on any R/W access, if connected.
However, I couldn't seem to find any socket on the drive that looks like a
LED signal output. (On the Fujitsu one, it's the little white socket on the
rear bottom of the drive) Does anyone if such signal outlet exist? Another
problem with this drive is its SCSI ID jumpper. It is located on the side
of the drive that makes it difficult for me to hook up cables to the
SCSI ID rotary of the enclosure, when it is embraced tightly in the case. As
a result, I can not make use of the ID switching from the enclosure, and the
ID has to be pre-set.
Any info is highly appreciated.
Oh, BTW, the enclosure I bought is made by ANTEC with model No.
KS-410+P. 3.5" external SCSI BOX w/ 40 Watts power supply. It's sold at
Fry's for $80.
Thanks,
Gary
From: mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NSI installation...
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 26 Nov 1993 07:04:16 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2d49pg$4nd@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <2d3fvl$bgk@tunix.cubiculum.com>
NB: bounce to user.
Ronald C.F. Antony (rcfa@cubiculum.com) wrote:
: I just got a new toy: a Gateway 2000 Handbook 486DX-2 40MHz, with a 120MB HD.
: This is a really cute thing, weighs about 3lbs. Great display (at least for
: its size). Just the thing to take with you wherever you go.
I assume you have a parallel port on this?
: Of course I did not buy this thin to run DOS/Windows, but I hope to get NSI
: running on this machine, since it has just about the minimum specs. It should
: be fine for running emacs, getting UUCP mail etc.
Yes, you should have enough to do it...
: So here the question: Did anyone manage to install NSI without a CD-ROM, by
: doing some strange thing with boot floppies, serial cable, kermit etc.?
: If so any hints are welcome.
: Also, is it at all possible to get a boot floppy on a 1.44MB disk?
The 3.1 boot floppy _is_ a 1.44 MB floppy. :-) Well, not a boot
floppy per se, but an installer floppy. I would suggest you get
one of Trantor's Parallel->SCSI adapters for the unit so that you
can connect a CD-ROM to the machine and try installing it that way.
: Besides that, if nobody knows how to do that, I might have to take the thing
: apart and stick the disk drive (IDE) into a "REAL" PC with NSI, and then run
: Builddisk on it, then stick it back...
If you can do that, you'd probably be safest doing that. Don't actually
configure the machine until the drive is back in the notebook; just install
the software, then put the HD back, then run the configure program so it
can set the hardware that is actually in the notebook correctly.
: Thanks. Please send copies of replies by email to me, I might not be able to
: keep up with news...
Wish I could, but this newsreader won't let me. I'll bounce a copy of
this once it shows up on our nntp server.
: And yes: I will post something, if (or if not) I succeed installing NSI on
: that cute little thing... :-)
: -- Ronald
Great!
Matt
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From: curtis@access.mbnet.mb.ca (Curtis Coleman)
Subject: Would NeXTSTEP v3.2 run on this??
Message-ID: <CH3EJs.53J@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 09:33:27 GMT
I currently have NeXTSTEP v3.1, and I was never able to get it installed
successfully on my machine. So, the question is, would v3.2 run on this?
A.I.R. 486UL2 motherboard 256K cache UMC chipset
Intel i486DX2/66
16MB RAM
BusLogic 445S VESA LocalBus Fast SCSI-2 Controller
Diamond Stealth Pro 2MB VESA LocalBus (S3 928 based)
Generic Serial/Parallel I/O card with two NS16550AFN UARTs
Seagate ST12550N (Barracuda II) 2139MB Fast SCSI-2 HD
Texel DM3024 Double-Spin CD-ROM drive
3.5" and 5.25" floppy drive (3.5" as first floppy)
Microsoft Serial Mouse v2
Any help would be greatly appreaciated. If you could email me
(curtis@access.mbnet.mb.ca) or just follow up, I would be thrilled.
sitruC
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From: rtyler@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (tyler richard s)
Subject: Ethernet laser Printer
Message-ID: <1993Nov26.115255.23882@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 11:52:55 GMT
Does anyone knows if it is possible to connect a laser printer
with an ethernet card in it on a NeXT ( black and white ) Ethernet Network?
Or can we only use the serial or parallel port?
If it works, is it possible to use it still with the "Print Menu" of
the NeXT Apps?
Thank you in advance,
Philippe.
-----
email : rtyler@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu
or phubert@univ-rennes1.fr
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From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: Re: Parallel Port on a PC
Message-ID: <CH3tEB.IsE@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
References: <CGoHK4.Mwo@utstat.toronto.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 14:54:11 GMT
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>In one of the hardware guides it was indicated that NS3.1 did not support
>parallel ports on cards (i.e. only on the motherboard). Is this true?
>Many clones do not have motherboards with a parallel port, and typically
>one gets a VLB card with a parallel port, IDE+floppy controller, 2 serial
>ports. What am I missing...? Thank's ...
>--
>Philip McDunnough
>University of Toronto
>philip@utstat.toronto.edu
>[Where sheep may safely graze...]
NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3.2 FOR INTEL PROCESSORS
HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY GUIDE
NEXTSTEP - Other Devices and Adapters
Device Type Model Driver Name NA#
----------- ----- ----------- ---
PARALLEL PORT Standard Parallel Port On-Board Parrallel Port 1330
The above is taken from the November 14, 1993 issue of the document.
Hope this helps.
--Tim
--
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|Laurel, MD 20708-1355
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From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-sampling (a summary of replies)
Date: 26 Nov 1993 10:28:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311261530.AA26821@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de>
I can confirm, that it is possible to read data from a music CD with
a Toshiba 3401. I did it myself on both black and white HW, and
stored the data as .snd file. If there is enough interest arround, I
might write a program that enables one to do so.
gerti
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From: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
Subject: Re: Problems with Etherlink III?
Message-ID: <1993Nov26.153812.1551@joker.fdn.org>
Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France.
References: <CH0GAL.A5B@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 15:38:12 GMT
In article <CH0GAL.A5B@news2.cis.umn.edu> scott@geom.umn.edu (Scott S.
Bertilson) writes:
> In article <1993Nov23.205458.1230@rrz.de>, Ralf Weber <fl1ger@rrz.de>
wrote:
> >You have the updated driver for 3.1 from NeXTAnswers have you?!!
>
> I hadn't known about this, but I just loaded it and it announces
> that it is "Second Generation", but it also announces:
> EtherExpress16: 8 bit only
> GRRRR! (It does include the extra buttons for selection of medium
> when configuring.)
> Scott S. Bertilson
> --
I recall that we solved that problem (at Cub'x systemes) by fiddling with
the DOS utilities that come with the card. It was, as I recall a memory
problem (starting address or length...). Some boards come with different
settings. The one in my PC never needed any configuration change (I never
installed the DOS utilities...)
I'd look at that if I were you.
Ed.
--
Erik Dasque "The French Guy" only SMALL NeXTMAIL pleeeeease...
ed@joker.fdn.org "Microsoft doesn't exist."
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NSI installation...
Date: 26 Nov 1993 17:23:06 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2d5e1r$s52@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <2d3fvl$bgk@tunix.cubiculum.com> <2d49pg$4nd@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
I know that no parallel port or PCMCIA SCSI adapter have been certified for
NS. I believe none have even been reported to work (either during or after
installation).
If my information is incorrect, I'd love to know.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
PS: 120MB is VERY VERY small for a NS system. I'd probably look into
something smaller, like Linux.
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From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: Re: ET4000AX Video Driver Questions
Message-ID: <1993Nov26.174836.17738@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
References: <1993Nov23.161605.26205@radical2.radical.com> <CH0vHp.B7D@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 17:48:36 GMT
In article <CH0vHp.B7D@muaddib.isar.muc.de> mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de writes:
>The only TSENG VLB-Card I know, working with NEXTSTEP, is
>the one from Hercules. (Don't know the exact name, but the
>box is orange!! :-)
2theMax ET4000/W32 VLB works, too.
-harri-
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///// Harri Valkama, hv@uwasa.fi (also NeXTmail welcome)
///// WasaWare Oy Ab, Palosaarentie 23-25, FIN-65200 Vaasa, Finland
///// Telephone: +358 61 317 3365 fax: +358 61 317 3025
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From: preuss@netcom.com (Peter Preuss)
Subject: Re: PAS vs. PSS Sound cards
Message-ID: <preussCH4Gp1.LtA@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <rorCH2oot.BKE@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 23:17:24 GMT
RatSnatcher (ror@netcom.com) wrote:
: What is the difference between the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 and the Pro
: Studio Spectrum 16? Both are supported by NEXTSTEP 3.2/Intel, right?
: I was at FRY's Electronics the other day, and I was looking at the specs
: on the boxes, and as far as I can tell there is NO difference, other than
: price...and perhaps the Pro Studio comes with more Windows software.
: Does Windows software make the PSS more "professional" than the PAS 16? If
: so, I would rather save 40 bucks and go with the PAS 16.
: Zach
: --
: ror@netcom.com ~RoR-Alucard~
The only technical difference I heard of is an additional line level
audio output for your stereo hook-up (avoiding noise generated by the
on-board headphone/speaker amp). Otherwise it just looks like the next
revision of the same stuff, (WIN&NEXT) drivers work vice-versa.
If you'd like to save even more, go for the "Pro Audio 16 Basic"
(#670-0053-01, $129 list, from Media Vision Catalog Nov 93,
spotted at CompUSA for $129.99 [or so]). It has the same audio specs
(I'm not sure about the line-out) as the "non-basics", just lacks the
(non-NeXTSTEP supported) SCSI port. And "the widest operating system
support in the industry" (Chronicle, Nov. 26, p. A17, "Whole Earth" ad,
$149.99 ?!). It even mentions NeXTSTEP support on the box!!
Has anybody taken a look at Logitec's Soundman ($84)? That looks amazingly
close to the ProAudio 16 Basic and aren't they located in Fremont as well?
Peter.
--
preuss@futon.sfsu.edu San Francisco State University
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Parallel Port on a PC
Message-ID: <CH4Jso.E1K@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <CGoHK4.Mwo@utstat.toronto.edu> <CH3tEB.IsE@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 00:24:24 GMT
In article <CH3tEB.IsE@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes:
[ ]
>NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3.2 FOR INTEL PROCESSORS
>HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY GUIDE
>
>NEXTSTEP - Other Devices and Adapters
>
>Device Type Model Driver Name NA#
>----------- ----- ----------- ---
>PARALLEL PORT Standard Parallel Port On-Board Parrallel Port 1330
>
>The above is taken from the November 14, 1993 issue of the document.
>Hope this helps.
Yep, I read that. What does this mean? On-board...? Does it mean only motherboards with the parallel board built in will work?
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
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From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: ET4000AX Video Driver Questions
Message-ID: <CH4Jvw.E3q@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <1993Nov23.161605.26205@radical2.radical.com> <CH0vHp.B7D@muaddib.isar.muc.de> <1993Nov26.174836.17738@uwasa.fi>
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 00:26:20 GMT
In article <1993Nov26.174836.17738@uwasa.fi> hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama) writes:
>In article <CH0vHp.B7D@muaddib.isar.muc.de> mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de writes:
>>The only TSENG VLB-Card I know, working with NEXTSTEP, is
>>the one from Hercules. (Don't know the exact name, but the
>>box is orange!! :-)
>
>2theMax ET4000/W32 VLB works, too.
The Hercules card is a w32i (ET4000W32i) board and is called the Hercules
Dynamite Pro. It is a VLB card.
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: PCI Pentium Machines w/ fast SCSI for NS?
Date: 27 Nov 1993 00:49:07 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2d6863$sku@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I am about to purchase a new machine. I am looking for a Pentium machine,
running NS 3.2. I definitely want the Miro Crystal card, PCI, so this
excludes the ALR Pentium machines and the Compaq machines. Embarrassingly
enough, the Gateway meets the PCI criteria, as does the non-shipping AMBRA.
So, I have 4 problems:
[1] What Pentium machines run under NS 3.2 that have PCI?
[2] What PCI SCSI cards are supported under NS 3.2? (I understand
that the combination of EISA/PCI fails due to some chip-set
problems.) My DPT EISA SCSI controller under NS 3.1 unfortunately
has problems reliably running >2 large hard-disks. (I presume this
is a combination of PC hardware and NS internals). Reliable
performance running at least 3 large harddisks and 4 external
devices is important for me.
(Yes, I have very short, expensive cables, FPT=
forced-perfect-termination, and no termination on devices within the
chain. Yes, there is no internal hard disk, so the DPT controller
has its resistors installed.)
[3] Are there considerably better Pentium machines on the short
horizon? (i.e., 3 months).
[4] Which dealer would sell me such a machine as a total, and
install NS on it for me? (This is not because I cannot do it, but
because I want to make sure that NS runs properly.)
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Terminal and NeXTstep
Message-ID: <CH4K3M.DB2@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <2d2fic$l1f@tribune.usask.ca>
Distribution: all
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 00:30:57 GMT
In article <2d2fic$l1f@tribune.usask.ca> shukin@jester.usask.ca (Geoff
Shukin) writes:
> I am wondering if it is possible to connect a terminal to the serial
port
> of a 486 running NeXTstep? If so, how would one go about doing it?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
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> NeXT User and Proud of it. | | \| |_ /\ | rules!
> Windows NT: It's not NeXT, but. | My opinions are
just that!
> Voice: (306) 933-6415 | NeXTMail--> shukin@siast.sk.ca
> Internet addresses: shukin@doc.siast.sk.ca OR shukin@jester.usask.ca
>
__________________________________________________________________________
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>
>
>
Hi Geoff,
I think that works the same thing as with my cube.
Connect your terminal using a serial-cable crossed lines
with your pc and edit your /etc/ttys file to the terminal
mode that is required. For example, I use a QUEME Terminal
with my cube, so /etc/tty looks like this:
ttyb "/usr/etc/getty std.19200" q101 on secure
Nice Greeting from Munich - Germany
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Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen
Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: HSD's UMAX scanner -- problems...
Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET/crash), San Diego, CA
Date: 26 Nov 93 17:07:37 PST
Message-ID: <1993Nov26.170738.14759@crash>
References: <CH2n2p.49E@beach.com>
David W. Peter (dpeter@hsd.com) wrote:
:
: I've contacted our engineers and asked them to help solve the
: problem. We are closed today (Thanksgiving) and tomorrow but they'll
: try to reach you anyway.
:
: I don't think it's a PowerScan problem, though. I came into my office
: after reading your mail to try duplicate what you've described and
: found that PowerScan works fine under 3.2.
:
: The older version (1.03) I sent you should allow you to scan until
: our engineers can reach you and solve the problem.
:
: Happy Thanksgiving.
:
: Sincerely,
:
: David W. Peter
: HSD Inc.
: Ph. (408) 774-1400
: Fax (408) 774-1402
: Email: dpeter@hsd.com (NeXTMail)
:
: --
: Sincerely,
:
: David W. Peter
: HSD Inc.
Thanks, we solved the problem. It was that we were using the
"NS 3.0" version of PowerScan on a NS3.2 NeXTstation.
We thought the "NS 3.1" disk was for Intel only; didn't
know it was a fat binary. All is well now, and we LOVE the
results we're getting from the 24-bit scans!
- bd
p.s. we appreciate the help during the Thanksgiving holiday!!
/ brian dear / coconut computing, inc. / brian@coconut.com /
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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Jumper Settings on the ST1480N
Message-ID: <CH4KML.Ius@sounds.wa.com>
Sender: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <garycCH34En.Gzw@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 00:42:20 GMT
Gary I. Chang writes
|
| [...], the old Seagate drive is now placed
| in an external SCSI enclosure. There is a H.D.D. LED connector in the box
| . The LED on the front panel flashes on any R/W access, if connected.
| However, I couldn't seem to find any socket on the drive that looks like a
| LED signal output. (...) Does anyone if such signal outlet exist? Another
| problem with this drive is its SCSI ID jumpper. It is located on the side
| of the drive that makes it difficult for me to hook up cables to the
| SCSI ID rotary of the enclosure, when it is embraced tightly in the case. As
| a result, I can not make use of the ID switching from the enclosure, and the
| ID has to be pre-set.
You're in luck: I have the Product Manual for the Seagate ST1480 Family. (I
usually call the company for their manual on any drive I get, since they
usually don't charge anything for it). Since this is a popular drive, I'll
post the relevant settings for everyone.
Referencing page -44-
J7 is on the drive front, near the LED, and it consists of five pairs of
jumpers. The leftmost three jumpers are identical in function to J5, the SCSI
ID select from the side of the drive. Seagate warns to NOT install jumpers in
both places, only use one set. Just to the right of the three SCSI ID
selection jumpers is SYNC SPINDLE, which should be connected by default (since
you don't have a cable to synchronize to another drive). The last jumper on
the right, position 5, is REMOTE LED.
Quoting from the manual:
Pin 10 (top), the anode connection, connects in the drive to the +5V supply
through a pull-up resistor. Pin 9 (bottom), the cathode connection connects in
the drive to signal common through the emitter-collector junction of a
transistor switch that controls the LED on/off condition.
I have also placed my 420 MB Quantum drive in an external case to make room in
my NeXTdimension for a 1.23 GB Maxtor MXT-1240S. I had to use a longer cable
for the SCSI ID selector to reach all the way to the front of the drive, but
the supplied LED cable was long enough.
Good luck!
--
Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU
NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development
BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
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From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Re: NSI installation... (the Parallel Port Question)
Message-ID: <CH4K4L.B7@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
References: <2d5e1r$s52@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 00:31:32 GMT
We have never had a problem with the parallel port on a PC with NeXTSTEP, it's
one of those things that "just works" on every box we have tried it with.
---
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
(508)-481-3955 Fax
In article <2d5e1r$s52@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
writes:
> I know that no parallel port or PCMCIA SCSI adapter have been certified for
> NS. I believe none have even been reported to work (either during or after
> installation).
>
> If my information is incorrect, I'd love to know.
>
> Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
> Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
> AGSM at UCLA
--
Dirk Fromhein
df@watershed.com
Watershed Technologies, Inc.
(508)-460-9612 Voice
From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Parallel Port on a PC
Date: 27 Nov 1993 04:20:19 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2d6ki3$ld7@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <CGoHK4.Mwo@utstat.toronto.edu> <CH3tEB.IsE@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> <CH4Jso.E1K@utstat.toronto.edu>
philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>In article <CH3tEB.IsE@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes:
>[ ]
>>NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3.2 FOR INTEL PROCESSORS
>>HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY GUIDE
>>
>>NEXTSTEP - Other Devices and Adapters
>>
>>Device Type Model Driver Name NA#
>>----------- ----- ----------- ---
>>PARALLEL PORT Standard Parallel Port On-Board Parrallel Port 1330
>>
>>The above is taken from the November 14, 1993 issue of the document.
>>Hope this helps.
>Yep, I read that. What does this mean? On-board...? Does it mean only motherboards with the parallel board built in will work?
>--
>Philip McDunnough
>University of Toronto
>philip@utstat.toronto.edu
>[Where sheep may safely graze...]
I have seen boards with combo serial/parallel ports work in Compaq
machines. Can't vouch for anything else. Note that you must turn off
the on-board ports.
I would *think* it would work.....
Hubert Hickman
hickman@cse.unl.edu
From: yono@donald.cc.utexas.edu (Suryono Adisoemarta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Boot NSI from OS/2 Boot Manager
Date: 26 Nov 1993 23:31:55 -0600
Organization: The University of Texas - Austin
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2d6oob$ih@donald.cc.utexas.edu>
Hi, How to make NS for Intel boots from OS/2 Boot Manager ?.
I need to use Boot Manager as a selector as I also use Linux and OS/2
(oh, also msdos 5) as my OS.
I've put the NSI partition on the Boot Manager menu, but whenever
I select NeXTstep from the menu at booting, it went to a blank screen with
beeping sounds, nothing else.
Thanks for all pointers,
Yono
--
Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta Internet: yono@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Petroleum Engineering Dept. paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (NeXT!)
U of Texas, Austin yono@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Phone: (512) 471-9628 PBBS: N5SNN @ N5LJF.#AUS.TX.USA.NA
Radio: n5snn or yg1qn AMPRnet: n5snn@ausgw.ampr.org
From: SPBENDER@delphi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 1740 and Sony CDU-541
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 93 04:15:44 EST
Organization: Delphi Internet
Message-ID: <931127.15344.SPBENDER@delphi.com>
NextStep reports No CD-ROM drive found at install:
Adaptec 1740 in enhanced mode, Sony CDU-541 SCSI ID 1.
Anyone have any hints on how to get NS installed with this configuration.
Thanks,
Scott Bender
Harmony Data Systems
spbender@delphi.com
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Continuing problems with NXFax software
Message-ID: <1993Nov26.163653.24048@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: 26 Nov 93 16:36:53 GMT
References: <9311181610.AA24335@tigger.rsmas.miami.edu> <1993Nov19.142611.12907@bandw.com>
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA
In article <1993Nov19.142611.12907@bandw.com> rick@bandw.com writes:
>I have already replied to Marshall by mail, but would like
>to clear up a few of his points here.
>
>The Telebits can be tricky to get working the first time,
>once things are configured correctly they work fine.
>This is due to some anomolies in the way they autobaud,
>which can make it difficult for programs to communicate
>with them at different speeds. NXFax always uses the
>highest possible speed, 38,400 bps. If someone has a UUCP
>configuration, for instance, at another speed it is
>sometimes difficult for NXFax to get the modem to
>recognize characters sent at 38400. I don't think it's
>correctly to say that they "don't work with NXFax," as we
>have quite a few customers using them happily.
>
For what it is worth, I have a TB WB and I picked up a demo of NXFax
just to see how it works. The demo allows only sending a single page
and no receipt. However, it worked fine doing that. Furthermore, my
L.sys file sets my uucp sped at 19,200 and that has caused zero problem.
If I needed fax software, I would certainly use this. The price is
right too, I just can't justify it right now.
--
Bob Peirce, Pittsburgh, PA rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us 412-471-5320
venetia@investor.pgh.pa.us [NeXT Mail] !uunet.uu.net!pitt!investor!rbp [UUCP]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: Parallel Port on a PC
Message-ID: <1993Nov27.031905.24937@FreemanSoft.com>
Sender: jfreeman@FreemanSoft.com
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
References: <CH4Jso.E1K@utstat.toronto.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 03:19:05 GMT
In article <CH4Jso.E1K@utstat.toronto.edu> philip@utstat.toronto.edu
(Philip McDunnough) writes:
> In article <CH3tEB.IsE@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu
(Tim Pugh) writes:
> [ ]
>
> >NEXTSTEP RELEASE 3.2 FOR INTEL PROCESSORS
> >HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY GUIDE
> >
> >NEXTSTEP - Other Devices and Adapters
> >
> >Device Type Model Driver Name NA#
> >----------- ----- ----------- ---
> >PARALLEL PORT Standard Parallel Port On-Board Parrallel Port 1330
> >
> >The above is taken from the November 14, 1993 issue of the document.
> >Hope this helps.
>
> Yep, I read that. What does this mean? On-board...? Does it mean only
motherboards with the parallel board built in will work?
Now, It means that is the driver to use for standard parallel ports. I
have one of these parallel/serial/IDE/game/floppy cards that fits in an
ISA slot NS 3.1 is able to use the parallel port, no problem.
Now, if NS could use 16550 uart buffering on the serial ports, we might be
able to get some decent throughput.
--
Joe Freeman
FreemanSoft Inc. A NEXTSTEP software and consulting services company.
Electronic Mail: Joe@FreemanSoft.com (NeXT Mail)
Voice: 919.783.7033
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From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Parallel Port on a PC
Message-ID: <CH5E4n.C1n@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet Limited.
References: <2d6ki3$ld7@crcnis1.unl.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 11:19:34 GMT
>The question was can you use an add-on I/O board
The answer in our experience is yes you can use an add-on serial/parallel board
as long as you check the irq/dma ports are configured correctly. We use an
add-on board with 2xS/1xP and IDE as well for our entry level systems and all
works fine.
--
Regards David Knight
FFC Software and Systems Limited
351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
From: coullet@ecu.unice.fr (Pierre Coullet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pentium Machines
Date: 27 Nov 1993 14:51:04 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Message-ID: <2d7pgo$iah@taloa.unice.fr>
Keywords: Pentium, IBM
Is NS working on the new IBM Pentium machines ?
What other Pentium machines supports NS.
Many thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cyliao@netcom.com (Jess Liao)
Subject: Original NeXT Monochrom Monitor Focus Prob
Message-ID: <cyliaoCH60MF.DKs@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 19:25:26 GMT
This is probably one of the OLDEST problme... but it happens to me nearly
4 years since I purchased my original 030 cube system from University.
I have attepted adjusting the Focus screw in the back of the monitor
without much success. Is there something else I can do to get the focus
back?
Please respont by email as I don't have time and efford keeping in touch
with NeXT's world for about 2 years now...
Thanks in advance
jes
--
___________________*** NeXTmail Accepted ***__________________________________
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cyliao@netcom.com | Department: to be | Next: nothing 'till I get a job
c.y.liao@ieee.org | announced | Now : A JOB!... and food...
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium Machines
Date: 27 Nov 1993 22:06:29 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Message-ID: <2d8j15$1dp@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <2d7pgo$iah@taloa.unice.fr>
The NeXT hardware guide (not printable on an HP 4m!) lists only a Compaq
Deskpro 5-M series as NS-certified.
However, some people have reported that the ALR low-end Evolution V (the one
without EISA slots) works just fine.
*No* other Pentium systems have been reported as working, as far as I know.
However, with the advent of NS 3.2 and outsiders writing NS drivers (e.g.,
MIRO), there is hope.
Pierre Coullet (coullet@ecu.unice.fr) wrote:
: Is NS working on the new IBM Pentium machines ?
: What other Pentium machines supports NS.
: Many thanks
--
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1740 and Sony CDU-541
Message-ID: <CH61n2.EAw@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <931127.15344.SPBENDER@delphi.com>
Distribution: all
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 19:47:25 GMT
In article <931127.15344.SPBENDER@delphi.com> SPBENDER@delphi.com writes:
>
> NextStep reports No CD-ROM drive found at install:
>
> Adaptec 1740 in enhanced mode, Sony CDU-541 SCSI ID 1.
>
> Anyone have any hints on how to get NS installed with this
configuration.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott Bender
> Harmony Data Systems
> spbender@delphi.com
Hi
If you use NEXTSTEP 3.1 the ADAPTEC 1740 will not be supported
- refering to the Compatibily Guide
Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
--
Michael Maximilian Goedel _____________________
e-mail: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de
Address: Gerhardstrasse 33 - 81543 Muenchen
Telephone: +49 89 65 29 18
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: Miro Crystal card ???
Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Organization: The Irwin Hoson Company
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 16:39:35 GMT
Message-ID: <steve.23.0008A925@eps.rain.com>
Does anyone have any info on the Miro Crystal card?? Is it a PCI based video
that there are drivers for NS_FIP? Where could I get one...
Thanks
-steve
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: egawa@nwk.cl.nec.co.jp (Takashi Egawa)
Subject: Re: Discontinued: Nanao 21" Greyscale Monitor - Flexscan 6500
Sender: news@nwk.cl.nec.co.jp (Usenet News Manager)
Message-ID: <CH359p.D46@nwk.cl.nec.co.jp>
In-Reply-To: scratch@sce.carleton.ca's message of Wed, 10 Nov 1993 06:34:52 GMT
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 06:13:01 GMT
References: <scratch.752913292@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca>
Organization: Network Res. Lab., C&C Syst. Res. Labs., NEC, Kawasaki JP
Craig,
In article <scratch.752913292@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca> scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) writes:
>Nanao has recently discontinued production of its Flexscan 6500,
>a 21" greyscale monitor. This was the only large, high-res,
>greyscale monitor easily available in North America that I had
>found.
I asked Nanao's office in Japan and was told that there was no plan to
discontinue the production of its Flexscan 6500.
--
# Takashi Egawa, C&C Research Labs, NEC Corp.
# e-mail: egawa@nwk.cl.nec.co.jp
# tel: 044-856-2121 fax: 044-856-2229
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: shay@netcom.com (Christian Shay)
Subject: Need Advice Please!
Message-ID: <shayCH6BpA.FoI@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 23:24:46 GMT
Hi,
I'm beginning the daunting task of purchasing the components to build an
intel machine that I can run NS 3.2 on.
I've been reading these groups off and on, and want to avoid what seems like
a huge amount of incompatibilities and problems with certain vendors products.
I also would like to get an idea of where I should invest the most money to get
the best performance/price ratio...
Does anyone have a set-up that they are expecially pleased with that they
could share with me? Also, what would be considered a top of the line machine
(where money is no object) in terms of speed and reliability?
I've seen the list of vendors available from nextanswers and it is HUGE. What
I am looking for are specific experiences "from the field".
Referalls to past magazine articles would also be nice!
Thanks!
Christian
--
shay@netcom.com
From: mbecker@cs.uml.edu (Mark E. Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What kind of a microphone plugs into a black NeXT?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 28 Nov 1993 01:22:58 GMT
Organization: Doubly linked list
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2d8uhi$sua@ulowell.uml.edu>
Summary: What kind of a microphone plugs into a black NeXT?
Keywords: NeXT microphone
Hello *
I'd like to plug a microphone into the NeXT ('030, monochrome). The
machine that landed on my desk didn't come with much in the name of
documentation .. and so can someone tell me what kind of a microphone
plugs into the box? Crystal? Magnetic?
Thanks in advance.
Mark
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
| Mark Becker <mbecker@cs.uml.edu> | #include <std.disclaimer>|
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
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From: treed@bmt.gun.com (Timothy Reed)
Subject: Ignore this test
Message-ID: <CH6IGo.2pv@bmt.gun.com>
Organization: Black Market Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: nyc
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 01:50:47 GMT
This is an NYC-only test done out of necessity. Please ignore.
Tim
--
Timothy Reed, Black Market Technologies
Voice: +1 718 522-5090 Fax: +1 718 852-4249 E-mail: treed@bmt.gun.com
"Reading documentation is an admission of failure."
From: louie@uunet.uu.net (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Undelete utility needed
Date: 27 Nov 1993 22:59:12 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA, USA
Message-ID: <2d97mgINN1cp@rodan.UU.NET>
References: <UgwOL0y00iV4MFOptu@andrew.cmu.edu> <CGz04M.222@genoa.com> <GISLI.93Nov23232547@duffing.eecs.umich.edu>
>I alias rm so that it moves files to the recycler. Here is a zsh
>function that accomplishes this.
>
>rm () { mv -f $* ~/.NeXT/.NextTrash }
Let me suggest that if you need a "rm" crutch that doesn't *really*
delete files, that you call it something else, like "del". That way,
when you're using someone else's system or you're logged in as root
you'll get 'del: command not found' rather than really deleting the
file you thought you could get back if needed.
Of course the real solution is to do freqent backups. That way, if
either you or YOUR HARDWARE screws up, you can get your data back.
--
Louis A. Mamakos louie@uunet.uu.net
UUNET Technologies, Inc. uunet!louie
3110 Fairview Park Dr., Suite 570 Voice) +1 703 204 8000
Falls Church, Va 22042 Fax) +1 703 204 8001
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 09:06:08 EST
From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Message-ID: <93332.090608HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DOS file system errors...
Hi:
I'm using a PLI 2.88 SuperFloppy drive on my Cube, and have been doing so for a
couple of years. All of a sudden yesterday it started giving errors on any
DOS disks inserted and copied to a local directory - unix read errors etc.
It works fine on NeXT disks, but not on old dos disks that I wrote with the
drive. Have I corrupted my DOS filesystem somehow?
Any ideas would be appreciated.
No, I haven't changed anything else, I am running 3.0, and I can format DOS
disks with the drive without any problem....
Rob Harrap
harrap@geol.queensu.ca
harrapr@qucdn.queensu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Miro Crystal card ???
Message-ID: <CH7IF4.IHq@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet Limited.
References: <steve.23.0008A925@eps.rain.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 14:47:27 GMT
In article <steve.23.0008A925@eps.rain.com> steve@eps.rain.com (Steve
Kornreich) writes:
> Does anyone have any info on the Miro Crystal card?? Is it a PCI based
video
> that there are drivers for NS_FIP? Where could I get one...
> Thanks
> -steve
Ive posted this before but for those of you who missed it;
miro Computer Products, Inc.
3160 De La Cruz Blvd., Suite 200
Santa Clara, CA 95054
USA
Phone: +1 408 727-1558
FAX: +1 408 988-2515
--
Regards David Knight
FFC Software and Systems Limited
351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
From: jeddak@echonyc.com (Jonathan Donald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Compatible Tape Drives?
Date: 28 Nov 1993 23:21:49 GMT
Organization: ECHO BBS & Public Access Internet Site, NYC
Message-ID: <2dbbqd$9v@subway.echonyc.com>
Summary: NeXTStation compatible tape drive, recommendations
Keywords: tape, 1/4", DC-6000/2000, NeXTStation
Help!
Can anyone recommend a 1/4" tape drive that works with NeXT black hardware?
I've read the FAQ re SCSI requirements for tape drives, but I'm looking
for specific recommendations (manufacturer, model, distributor &tc.)
Any info much appreciated. Thanks.
--
***************************************************************************
* jeddak@echonyc.com * Few men know how much a man must know *
* * in order to know how little he knows. *
***************************************************************************
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Subject: ProAudio Problems - Timing?
Message-ID: <1993Nov28.160422.7617@nic.csu.net>
From: djasper@odie.santarosa.edu (Dane Jasper)
Date: 28 Nov 93 16:04:20 PST
Organization: Santa Rosa Junior College, Santa Rosa, CA
I'm having a problem with a ProAudio Studio 16 card - the tech support for
ProAudio tells me to add a line in my config.sys (gack!) to tell the card to
do it's own timing. That gets me noplace. Should I return it and get a
ProAudio 16, or the 'basic' package? Do these have the same timing problems?
Thanks..
Dj
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Maxtor 1240s HD
Message-ID: <1993Nov28.160658.7618@nic.csu.net>
From: djasper@odie.santarosa.edu (Dane Jasper)
Date: 28 Nov 93 16:06:57 PST
Organization: Santa Rosa Junior College, Santa Rosa, CA
I have a nice shiny new Maxtor 1250s fast SCSI II drive - works great
under Nextstep for Intel, but I can't seem to get all of the space out
of it? Is Nextstep (like DOS) braindead about drives over 1 gig?
Formatted capacity is 1177 megs (and Nextstep says so on bootup), but
accessable seems to be only 1027 megs..
Ideas?
Dj
From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Pentium Machines w/ fast SCSI for NS?
Date: 29 Nov 1993 00:34:26 GMT
Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2dbg2i$eii@tunix.cubiculum.com>
References: <2d6863$sku@news.mic.ucla.edu>
In article <2d6863$sku@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
writes:
> [2] What PCI SCSI cards are supported under NS 3.2? (I understand
> that the combination of EISA/PCI fails due to some chip-set
> problems.)
PCI and EISA fail? Is this NeXTSTEP specific? I would not want to buy a
PCI/ISA system, since ISA and sound cards are supposedly not getting
along with each other too well under NEXTSTEP.
So what's the deal with PCI/EISA?
If I can find someone who is interested in a nice DELL setup, I was
entertaining the thought of buying some advertized OEM parts and putting
together a high performance EISA/PCI Pentium system, with the miro card
and the i56 etc. to come up with something that is worth competing for
deskspace with my black hardware. But of course, if that EISA/PCI problem
is real, then it's not worth trying...
-- Ronald
==============================================================================
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists
in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the
unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: metaresearch
Message-ID: <CH3y9L.14q@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Nov25.145633.22204@FreemanSoft.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1993 16:39:21 GMT
In article <1993Nov25.145633.22204@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe
Freeman) writes:
#I looked in the latest NS catalog and they no longer list hardware
#products for black hardware. Does anyon know if metareseach is still in
#in buisness and if they support 3.0/3.2?
#
They are still in business.
They support 3.x in their new release of SoundWorks and I think they
still sell digital ears.
Their software supports digital ears, ProPort, A/D64x.
You can email lee@metaresearch.com for more information.
--
/* K.L. Shephard Consulting is my company. Infoserv only delivers my mail. */
/* Please direct mail to kent@infoserv.com other adresses may not work. */
From: rcfa@cubiculum.com (Ronald C.F. Antony)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why are only 2 CDROMS supported under NS/FIP
Date: 29 Nov 1993 00:55:28 GMT
Organization: NeXT-BUG (NeXT at Brown University Group)
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2dbha0$ero@tunix.cubiculum.com>
References: <1993Nov24.123111.18753@FreemanSoft.com>
In article <1993Nov24.123111.18753@FreemanSoft.com> joe@FreemanSoft.com (Joe
Freeman) writes:
> > standardized as SCSI hard disks. While many of the more modern drives
> > will offer extra capabilities virtually SCSI CD ROM drive on the
> > market will work, much as virtually any SCSI hard disk will work.
>
> I'd agree with you except that your answer doesn't appear to be correct.
> We all know that there were problems with certain combinations of
> controllers and CD drives. As an example, the NeXT drive didn't work with
> the DPT controller for a while. Additionally, it would be nice to know
> NeXT's support level for audio and multi-spin drive features.
I guess the problem in these cases is with the controlers and not with the
CD-ROM drives. So what NeXT should do is:
a) mention CD-ROM drives that dont work with a controler in the controler
section of the comp. guide.
b) say that all standard SCSI CD-ROM drives will work as such
c) list which drives additional e.g. sound features are supported, which
are PhotoCD mulit session compatible
Multi-spin should be transparent. The drive should just respond faster and
transfer faster. Nothing that the OS should be concerned with though.
-- Ronald
==============================================================================
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists
in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the
unreasonable man." G.B. Shaw
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From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Dead NeXT mono monitor wanted
Date: 29 Nov 1993 08:11:25 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <2dcard$g2h@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Does anyone have a dead monochrome monitor that they don't want???? I
was thinking about making a nice fish tank out of it.
RWW.
(a die-hard black hardware owner with a functional mono monitor)
--
Robert W. Wong Jr. wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
Crasher of Automated Banking Machines, Keeper of the ZyXEL modem FAQ,
University of British Columbia NeXT Users Group Leader and
collector of titles.
From: gb@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Guenter Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Graphic modes for ET4000 card
Date: 29 Nov 1993 10:33:43 GMT
Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ
Message-ID: <2dcj67$nq5@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
Hi Next experts,
we have a PC with ET4000 card for Next. As the monitor (Eizo 9070S) is not
able to handle the frequency of 70 Hz, we must use 60 Hz.
Does anybody know, how to do this, or, where we can read about this topic?
Presently, we are restricted to StandardVGA mode, which is (more than) a
bit unsatisfactory.
Please, answer by e-mail; I'll summarize anything useful I receive.
With kind regards
G. Becker
From: f91el@efd.lth.se (Erik Lindahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTStep on IBM Thinkpads (750?) ?
Date: 29 Nov 1993 10:56:30 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Message-ID: <2dckgu$jv2@nic.lth.se>
Is there anyone who has installed / tried to install NeXTstep on a
Thinkpad?
Most interesting would be info regarding the 750C; but everything you know
would be welcome. I know that people have had problems with linux due to
some CMOS-handler for the hard disk that has been reallocated by IBM(right?)
Well, anyhow, If you know ANYTHING, mail it to me. If I get any answers
I'll post a summary.
Thanks!
Erik Lindahl
f91el@efd.lth.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: DOS file system errors...
Message-ID: <CH7osr.J6F@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <93332.090608HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 17:05:15 GMT
In article <93332.090608HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>Hi:
>
>I'm using a PLI 2.88 SuperFloppy drive on my Cube, and have been doing so for a
>couple of years. All of a sudden yesterday it started giving errors on any
>DOS disks inserted and copied to a local directory - unix read errors etc.
>It works fine on NeXT disks, but not on old dos disks that I wrote with the
>drive. Have I corrupted my DOS filesystem somehow?
>
>Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
>No, I haven't changed anything else, I am running 3.0, and I can format DOS
>disks with the drive without any problem....
>
>Rob Harrap
>harrap@geol.queensu.ca
>harrapr@qucdn.queensu.ca
It might possibly have something to do with the fact that DOS disks, being 1.44
MB, are written with a head that is wider thsn the head used in a 2.88MB
drive. You can read disks written by a 1.44 in a 2.88, but try changing
the information written by a 1.44 using a 2.88, and there's going to be
an aura of old data hanging around. That may now be coming back to haunt
you. Won't stop you formatting the old DOS disk, but the aura will not
go away.
At least its a thought.
david
-----
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mcnichol@math.syr.edu (Brendan T. McNichols)
Subject: Comtrade anyone?
Message-ID: <1993Nov29.110929.25274@newstand.syr.edu>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 11:09:28 EST
Hi all,
I am in the process of researching intel machines to run NS. I have
noticed Comtrade's reasonable prices and was wondering if anyone has
successfully gotten a Comtrade with their EISA/VL motherboard to work
under NS/FIP?
Any information would be GREATLY appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Brendan
--
Brendan T. McNichols, Computer Support (315) 682-1553 (home)
Syracuse University Mathematics Dept. mcnichol@syr.edu (NeXT)
215 Carnegie Hall
Syracuse, NY 13244
From: lk@SysCon.uu.se(Erlendur Karlsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Questions about V-LB IDE controlers for NS/Intel
Date: 29 Nov 1993 17:33:42 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Message-ID: <2ddbpm$f1j@corax.udac.uu.se>
We are in the process of specifying a hardware configuration for a
PC-lab where we would like to run NS 3.2. One of the questions we are
having a hard time with is the issue of IDE controllers. Our basic
thought was that V-LB IDE controllers would give us reasonably fast
disk transfers.
The Hardware Compatibility Guide for NS 3.2 only lists
one IDE Disk Controller Driver.
Regarding this I have the following questions which I hope somebody can
help us with.
1. Does that mean that it will work for all IDE controllers, irrespective
of what bus it is on, ISA, EISA or V-LB, or will it only work for the
ISA controllers.
2. If it does also work for the EISA and V-LB controllers, will it fully
utilize the doubled bus width of those controllers and double the
performance or will it simply perform like an ISA controller?
3. Do EISA and V-LB IDE controllers require special drivers to fully
utilize the busses and possible on board cach. If so, do such drivers
exist for NS 3.2 or will such drivers become available in the near
future.
We are greatful for any input on this, technical advice, experience, etc.
Kind regards,
Erlendur Karlsson
...........................................................
Erlendur Karlsson
Systems and Control Group
Uppsala University tel: +46-18-183189
Box 27 fax: +46-18-503611
S-751 03, Uppsala email: lk@SysCon.uu.se (NeXT mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: richard@sfu.ca (Richard Chycoski)
Subject: Trackball for the NeXTstation (non-ADB)
Message-ID: <1993Nov29.183605.19502@sfu.ca>
Sender: news@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 18:36:05 GMT
Does anyone know of a source for a trackball that works with a monochrome,
non-turbo, non-ADB NeXTstation?
(Or, does anyone know of a hack for a trackball that wasn't orginally intended
for the NeXT? I don't mind replacing the electronics in the trackball if
necessary!)
--
- Richard Chycoski richard@sfu.ca (NeXT Mail OK)
Senior Systems Consultant
Academic Computing Services
Simon Fraser University
From: M.Crawford@dcs.sheffield.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 1408x1024 video
Date: 29 Nov 1993 12:55:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9311291817.AA13603@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
For people wanting serious amounts of screen acreage, here's part of a
posting I sent out a while ago about the most recent NUG-UK meeting...
Further to this, new systems from eCesys (using the WinGine chip) are
likely to support the following:
up to 1152x890 x 16 bit colour (color in American! :-)
up to 1600x1280 x 8 bit greyscale
They are also planning bigger screens still...
Marty Fossum
Vox: 800 732 3797
ECESYS@delphi.com
Jackie Mackay
The Business
24 Torbay Road
London NW6 7DY
Vox: 071 329 2501
Fax: 071 328 7555
Email - Jackie Mackay <mackay@cognito.demon.co.uk>
Have fun,
mmalcolm
---
SHeffield Auditory Group | Vox : (+44) 742 768555 ext 5569
Dept. Computer Science | direct : 825569
Sheffield University | Fax : (+44) 742 780972
Regent Court | Email: malc@dcs.shef.ac.uk
211 Portobello Street | (NeXTMail welcome)
Sheffield S1 4DP, UK. | (Read-Receipts discouraged :-)
On the subject of watching, the real eye-catcher was the [Elonex]
Pentium tower c/w 20" (or was it 21"?) screen. The machine was
certainly *very* fast, but what was instantly arresting was the number
of icons in the dock. At first I thought it must have been using
MetroTools, but I was wrong: the system was using a card from mi'ro
giving 1408x1024 resolution. Yup, 1408x1024.
Those of you who attended the User-Group session at the Expo may
remember Bob Lawton's response to a question as to when a 2Kx2K screen
might be available. He replied that he had heard of such things, but
they tended to be expensive... say around $70,000, which presented you
with an interesting choice: "House, or NEXTSTEP." Well, if you can
settle for 1408x1024, mi'ro have a three options which you could
probably exchange for a fully-equipped garden shed.
The *lowest* spec card has the following characteristics:
resolution max colours refresh rates
1408x1024 65 536 70Hz
1280x1024 65 536 75Hz
1152x864 65 536 90Hz
1024x768 1.67 million 75/100Hz
The release 3.2 driver is being shown first at Comdex, which is why
Elonex's system was running 3.1. Many thanks to Ray Thomas for
attending and telling us more about the cards and about mi'ro. mi'ro
can be contacted:
miro computer
Sheriton House
Castle Park
Cambridge CB3 0AX
Vox: 0223 301102
Fax: 0223 66944
3160 De La Cruz Blvd. Suite 200
Santa Clara, CA 95054
Vox: (408) 727 1558
Fax: (408) 988 2515
Carl-Miele-Str. 4
D-38112 Braunschweig
Vox: (0531) 2113-100
Fax: (0531) 2113-99
From: jirapa@nextover.pe.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Powerbook as a disk drive for the NeXT
Date: 29 Nov 1993 18:53:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2ddgev$c1v@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Would anybody know if the Powerbook can be used as a disk drive for the NeXT
cube?
If so how would I do that?
Jirapa
From: sholland@motown.ge.com (Scott Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PAS vs. PSS Sound cards
Message-ID: <2dddv3$ah@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM>
Date: 29 Nov 93 18:10:43 GMT
References: <rorCH2oot.BKE@netcom.com>
Organization: Martin Marietta Corp, Moorestown NJ
It is my understanding that the Pro Audio Studio 16 (PASt-16) has some improvements
in the board design in the audio input section. In addition, the PASt-16 comes
with a microphone and a bunch of additional software that the Pro Audio Spectrum 16
(PAS-16) is lacking. The additional software can be purchased as an upgrade
to the PAS-16 for around $60. If you don't care about windows, the additional
software is probably irrelevant.
---
Scott Holland Martin Marietta 609-722-2955
sholland@motown.ge.com "I'm from Detroit and this is not Motown."
From: jdk5906@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jason D. Kridner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium Machines
Date: 29 Nov 1993 13:15:03 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Message-ID: <2ddhnn$cmt@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <2d7pgo$iah@taloa.unice.fr> <2d8j15$1dp@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Do you think that the Gateway 2000 P5-60 will be supported soon? It seems to
be one of the lowest cost PCI Pentium systems available.
--
Jason Kridner / jdk@tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ccpablo@muphnx1 (Paul Bohnenkamp)
Subject: Does Dell Computer sell a model preconfigured with NeXTStep 3.2?
Message-ID: <1993Nov29.192848.21320@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
Sender: news@mont.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 19:28:48 GMT
Anyone aware of or using a proconfigured Dell?
Please reply to ccpablo@monad.missouri.edu
From: mitch@mills.edu (Mitch Gass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Maxtor 1240s HD
Date: 29 Nov 1993 21:01:14 GMT
Organization: Mills College, Oakland CA
Message-ID: <2ddnuq$176@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1993Nov28.160658.7618@nic.csu.net>
In article <1993Nov28.160658.7618@nic.csu.net> djasper@odie.santarosa.edu (Dane Jasper) writes:
>I have a nice shiny new Maxtor 1250s fast SCSI II drive - works great
>under Nextstep for Intel, but I can't seem to get all of the space out
>of it? Is Nextstep (like DOS) braindead about drives over 1 gig?
>
>Formatted capacity is 1177 megs (and Nextstep says so on bootup), but
>accessable seems to be only 1027 megs..
I spoke with both NeXT and Adaptec about this when I installed 3.1.
Tried most everything, including a new low-level reformat. I'm
using an Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller with the latest BIOS, and I
tried installing with extended translation enabled and disabled.
Supposedly it's not a problem with the 1542C.
Naturally, I was hoping this problem would be fixed in NS/I 3.2. The
150+ megabytes didn't magically reappear when I installed 3.2; does
anyone know if reformatting the disk under 3.2 will do the trick?
And if anyone has spoken to NeXT about this problem in 3.2 and they
say it hasn't been fixed, what I'd like to know is ***why don't
they at least say so in NeXTanswers***? They've known about the
problem for months, and any number of people--like you and me--are going
to try 1542Bs with big disks and find out what you and I and lots of
other people have already found out the hard way. NEXT, IF YOU'RE
LISTENING: THIS IS NO WAY TO DO BUSINESS.
Mitch Gass
mitch@mills.edu
From: jtod@access.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Power on cube sans monitor?
Date: 29 Nov 1993 22:52:50 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Message-ID: <2ddug2$imp@news1.digex.net>
Summary: Need the pinout to turn a cube on without monitor
Keywords: NeXT, Cube, Frogurt
I'm trying to get my monitorless '030 cube to netboot of my '040 3.0
station. I think that I've muddled through all the setup stuff properly,
with only a little ad-libbing, but now the hard part arises:
How do I turn on the cube? I know that one of the pins on the monitor
cable is the "power" key, but which one? And what pin do I "ground" it
to? Are there any problems with the power not being terminated by the
monitor? (IOW: does the power supply need a monitor drawing the amperage
away in order to work properly or not overheat?)
I know this has to be in the FAQs somewhere, but at .0001 K per second
transfer rates from my site, I could be on the phone for literally days
searching. Please mail replies, as my newsreader also operates at these
pitiful speeds so I rarely read news.... <sob>
John
--
John Todd | Need Job: Can sell NeXTs/cars, fix same| NRA & Pro-Choice
430 Dundee Drive | "Charracter is whata you arre ina the dark!" - E. Lizardo
Blue Bell PA 19422| Jeeps Bought/Sold * Dictators Overthrown * Bombs Defused
215/646-5883 jtod@access.netaxs.com jtod@digex.net
From: citdem@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (MCCOLLAM, DON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI cables
Date: 29 Nov 1993 16:00 MST
Organization: University of Arizona
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <29NOV199316002727@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Hi. I have a PLI 2.88 MB floppy drive, a NeXT CD-ROM drive, and a HSD
Scanner hanging off my Cube's SCSI port. My SCSI chain is probably 9.5 ft
or more. Now I'm going to add a DAT drive. The shortest cable I can find
locally is 3ft. So my SCSI chain will be atleast 12-13 ft. I've seen
posts advising SCSI chains be kept under 10ft. In order to do that I'm
gonna need some short cables. Some of these devices are stackable, so the
cable between them could be real short, say 1ft. I have one 18" cable; but
I can't find any more. Any advice on where I can get 12" SCSI daisy
chain cables, etc?
[BTW the scanner's cable has to be at least 6ft, so I can't save there.
I can save length from the Cube to the first device and between the next 2
devices. (the scanner HAS to be last in the chain by design).]
Don McCollam
citdem@happy.rc.arizona.edu
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook as a disk drive for the NeXT
Date: 29 Nov 1993 23:10:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2ddvi0$ljp@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <2ddgev$c1v@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
In article <2ddgev$c1v@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> jirapa@nextover.pe.utexas.edu
writes:
> Would anybody know if the Powerbook can be used as a disk drive for the NeXT
> cube?
>
> If so how would I do that?
Hi Jirapa, how's the cube coming? I would have made this email but there's no
reason not to post the answer publicly.
You can use a PowerBook as a HD with a NeXT provided the PowerBook supports
SCSI Disk mode. Set the SCSI Disk Mode ID to some number that isn't being used
by a device on the NeXT SCSI Bus (the NeXT CPU is ID 7 and the internal HD is
usually ID 1). Buy the Apple SCSI Disk Mode cable and attach the PB with that
cable to the SCSI port of the NeXT *while the NeXT is powered down*. If you
try to connect while the NeXT is on you could damage the devices and the NeXT
wouldn't recognize the PowerBook anyway since it wasn't present at boot time.
Once they're connected turn on the PowerBook. You should see the SCSI Disk
mode screen. Now boot the NeXT (you can <option><option><`> to boot in verbose
mode) and when the boot is done you will see the PB's hard drive mounted as an
Macintosh volume at /. You can copy text files and image files (GIF/TIFF/JPG
and so forth) or read them right off the mac disk. Applications and other
things will have to be binhexed or .Z'd to preserve their identity.
I've done this with an '040 Cube and PowerBook Duo 230 and it works fine. If
you need more data write me.
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable!!
0000000700F6208F479D391F0D205D6F055500000007DB58CE6FCA79D9FB19BCD42807B6
==============================================================================
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Maxtor 1240s HD
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 19:14:43 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ogyd1ny00Uh_M91Asl@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2ddnuq$176@agate.berkeley.edu>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 29-Nov-93 Re: Maxtor 1240s
HD by Mitch Gass@mills.edu
>>I have a nice shiny new Maxtor 1250s fast SCSI II drive - works great
>>under Nextstep for Intel, but I can't seem to get all of the space out
>>of it? Is Nextstep (like DOS) braindead about drives over 1 gig?
>>Formatted capacity is 1177 megs (and Nextstep says so on bootup), but
>>accessable seems to be only 1027 megs..
You do know that the Berkeley FFS used by NeXTstep reserves 10% of the
drive space for performance reasons (also prevents fragmentation from
being a problem)? This would seem to account for the space drop. BTW,
the superuser can actually use up this 10% reserve, so you can actually
go to 110% capacity (according to df) before your drive will not hold
anything else.
Also, I believe that you don't want to have disk partitions larger than
2GB, but you shouldn't want to create partitions that big, anyway.
This, of course, does not apply to your 1.2GB drive...
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: alberto@smartsoft.com (Manuel Alberto Ricart)
Subject: What MO for NEXTSTEP (Black or White)
Message-ID: <1993Nov29.210153.577@parsec.mixcom.com>
Sender: alberto@parsec.mixcom.com
Organization: SmartSoft, Inc.
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 21:01:53 GMT
Dear NetLand:
We are looking into a Magneto-Optical drive to use for use as a backup device and
for storing stuff that we don't use often. The drive may be moved between black
and white hardware, so it needs to work with both.
We want something that is fairly fast (there may be times where the drive will
double as a 'hard drive').
What are the better 128 or 256 MO's out there? - and how do they work with
NEXTSTEP? Would you get another HD instead?
Please reply to me - I'll summarize the results.
---
Alberto Ricart
SmartSoft, Inc.
2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
alberto@SmartSoft.COM - NeXTMail Welcome
--
Alberto Ricart
SmartSoft, Inc.
2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Pentium Machines w/ fast SCSI for NS?
Date: 30 Nov 1993 00:35:29 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2de4gi$68u@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <2d6863$sku@news.mic.ucla.edu> <2dbg2i$eii@tunix.cubiculum.com>
: PCI and EISA fail? Is this NeXTSTEP specific?
No. I understand that the incompatibility has something to do with bugs in
the Intel chipset (this comes from a PC-week magazine). It should be fixed
sometime in the future.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: wolter@cs.tamu.edu (Jan Wolter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help! Can't talk to my CD-ROM
Date: 30 Nov 1993 00:51:22 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M Computer Science Department, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <2de5ea$j10@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU>
I'm trying to upgrade my black-box NextStation from 2.1 to 3.0. (Yes I know
3.1 exists, but one thing at a time.) I have the upgrade disk, I have a
CD-ROM player, but the computer doesn't want to talk to the CD-ROM drive.
I need to know if (1) the computer is broken, (2) the CD-ROM is broken, (3)
the CD-ROM is incompatible with the computer, or (4) I'm doing something
wrong. I'd prefer answer number (4), but I'll take any answer that is right.
What I have:
- NextStation running 2.1, no other devices on the scsi bus (well, the
internal hard disk, of course), nothing particularly weird about it.
- PowerUser CDR-0072 which appears to be some internal CD-ROM drive of
unknown manufacture stuck in an enclosure by some third party. It
apparantly features a 2x speed mode and looks to be marketed mainly
for the Mac Universe. It claims to be internally terminated, so I
don't have a terminator on it. It claims it should be at the end of
the SCSI chain, but it has two SCSI cable connectors anyway. SCSI
address is currently at 3, though other numbers behaved the same.
What I did:
- During boot, it accesses the SCSI drive (little lights named "2x" and
"BUSY" light up and the gizmo is heard to spin). It then prints:
s0 (3,0) ERROR op: 0x0 sd_state:10 scsi status:0x2
- Following the confused advice of the upgrade manual, I tried telling
the rom monitor to boot from the CDROM with the command:
bsd (1,0,0)sdmach root=sd1
It repeatedly accessed the drive saying, "sc: parity error" each time
until it finally gave up
- Following the further advice of the upgrade manual, I tried to boot the
CD-ROM TOOLS floppy disk. This was much more verbose in its palpitations,
but not more illuminating:
Searching for CD-ROM drives
sc: parity error
sd: target 3 lun 0 opcode 18
sd: addr 0x43bbf50 bcount 66 rdflag 1
sd: sdstatus 0 sdstate 0 resid 66
sc: s5c state 4 status 0xa6
sc: intrstatus 0x10 seqstep 0x4
sc: fifo level=0 transfer count 65
sc: comand 0x90 config 0x57
[repeated twice more]
No CD-ROM drives are attached to this computer
My eternal thanks to anyone who can explain enough of this to get me somewhere.
jan wolter
wolter@cs.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: lbrahman@du.edu (LBS)
Subject: Viewing PhotoCD
Message-ID: <CHA432.9uE@du.edu>
Followup-To: brahm@alembic.com
Sender: news@du.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Q.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 00:30:38 GMT
Hello,
Has anyone tried to view PhotoCD using NeXT CDROM with the app for PhotoCD
in NS 3.1 Black? Is the NEC 3X CDROM supported already by 3.1 or 3.2?
What I was going to do is rather than scanning images, I'd like to use PhotoCD
and manipulate the file from there. Would this guarantee the colors to be
perfectly adjusted (calibrated)?
Any input greatly appreciated.
............. brahm
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scratch@sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley)
Subject: Re: Discontinued: Nanao 21" Greyscale Monitor - Flexscan 6500
Message-ID: <scratch.754621835@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <scratch.752913292@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca> <CH359p.D46@nwk.cl.nec.co.jp>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 01:10:35 GMT
egawa@nwk.cl.nec.co.jp (Takashi Egawa) writes:
>I asked Nanao's office in Japan and was told that there was no plan to
>discontinue the production of its Flexscan 6500.
Interesting. When I phoned Nanao in California, I thought that
they said that they were discontinuing the Flexscan 6500.
Perhaps they meant that they were discontinuing the distribution
of the Nanao 6500 in North America.
I think I asked them if this was due to a lack of volume, and the
answer was yes.
Craig
--
W. Craig Scratchley | internet: scratch@sce.carleton.ca
Dept. of Systems and Computer Engineering | phone: (613) 788-5740 (Dept.)
Carleton University | (613) 241-6952 (Home)
Ottawa, ON, CANADA K1S 5B6 | fax: (613) 788-5727 (Dept.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: billc@netcom.com (William Courington)
Subject: White Hardware: 10x7 Display Satisfactory?
Message-ID: <billc.1105019304C@nntp.netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: netnews@netcom.com (USENET Administration)
Organization: ForWord Communication
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 03:54:24 GMT
I'm in the interesting position of finding Intel machines
that run both Solaris and NeXTStep. My job would be
easier if I could settle on 1074x768 for the displays.
But a few machines seem to offer 1120x832, which a book
called Taking the NeXT Step highly recommends.
Has anyone who has used both got an opinion? Do 10x7
users long for a little more resolution?
Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gfin@cyber (Gary Finley)
Subject: VLB IDE disk controllers
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.042039.15342@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 04:20:39 GMT
I'm using a generic VLB IDE disk controller in my white box. With a
Maxtor 210MB drive, I get DrivePerformance numbers around 0.65. The
internal SCSI in my Turbo Station gives a figure of 0.98. The data
rate you can get out of an IDE drive (or a SCSI one, I guess) depends
on the sector size, rotation speed, and no. of sectors per track.
Even with a perfect interface (infinitely fast), these numbers impose
the absolute limits. If you take the normal DOS size of 512 bytes
per sector and multiply by the normal value of 26 sectors/track for
small IDE drives, you've got 13 kbytes/track. Spinning at the standard
rate of 3600 rpm, an IDE drive can only produce 780 kbytes/second.
This is low, by SCSI standards, so I suspect (I'm guessing here), that
SCSI drives use larger sectors (1 kbyte or more), and/or have more
sectors per track.
Note that I qualified the above numbers with a lot of "normal"s and
"standard"s: some exceptions do exist. My Maxtor has 36 sectors/track,
which gives it an edge over "standard" IDE values. On a local bus,
the IDE interface is capable of moving data faster that the above
value: something in the neighborhood of 2-3 MB/sec. Thus it's possible
that some VLB IDE configurations might be comparable to SCSI speeds.
Look for a drive with lots of sectors per track, a big cache size,
and sectors larger than 512 bytes, if possible.
--
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky)
Subject: Which CPU chips work with NS/iP?
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.063834.14820@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 06:38:34 GMT
OK, we all know that NS/iP supports i486dx's and dx/2's, and I'm almost
positive that it works with the 486sx+487sx combo (since the 487 is
actually a 486dx) and the Pentium.
However, does it work with:
the AMD 486dx chips?
the IBM 486SLC and SLC/2 chips with 387sx co-processors?
the IBM 486DLC and DLC/2 Blue Lightning chips?
the Cyrix 486SLC and 387sx co-processor?
the Cyrix 486DLC and 387dx co-processor?
the Cyrix DrX486S and it's co-processor?
Any info would be much appreciated.
Thanx,
LT
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Pentium Machines
Message-ID: <1993Nov29.193550.1038@free.fdn.org>
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 19:35:50 GMT
In article <2d8j15$1dp@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
Welch) writes:
> The NeXT hardware guide (not printable on an HP 4m!) lists only a
Compaq
> Deskpro 5-M series as NS-certified.
>
> However, some people have reported that the ALR low-end Evolution V (the
one
> without EISA slots) works just fine.
>
> *No* other Pentium systems have been reported as working, as far as I
know.
> However, with the advent of NS 3.2 and outsiders writing NS drivers
(e.g.,
> MIRO), there is hope.
>
> Pierre Coullet (coullet@ecu.unice.fr) wrote:
> : Is NS working on the new IBM Pentium machines ?
> : What other Pentium machines supports NS.
> : Many thanks
>
> --
>
> Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
> Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
> AGSM at UCLA
I know this is not comp.sys.next.marketplace but I distribute here in
France PCI Pentium NS 3.1 and 3.1 ready.
Cheers
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Maxtor 1240s HD
Message-ID: <1993Nov29.195412.1181@free.fdn.org>
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 19:54:12 GMT
In article <1993Nov28.160658.7618@nic.csu.net> writes:
> I have a nice shiny new Maxtor 1250s fast SCSI II drive - works great
> under Nextstep for Intel, but I can't seem to get all of the space out
> of it? Is Nextstep (like DOS) braindead about drives over 1 gig?
>
> Formatted capacity is 1177 megs (and Nextstep says so on bootup), but
> accessable seems to be only 1027 megs..
>
> Ideas?
>
> Dj
Usually 10% of the UNIX File system is reserved to the Super Users (root).
If you want to know the real capacity:
use the disk command.
Example:
root@demo1> disk /dev/rsd0a
disk name: MICROP 1598-15MD1066701
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
Disk utility
disk> la
label information: print, write? print
current label information on disk:
disk label version #3
disk label: NeXT_3.0_Ext
disk name: MICROP 1598-15MD1066701
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
ncyls 1928 ntrack 15 nsect 36 rpm 3600
sector_size 1024 front_porch 160 back_porch 0
ngroups 0 ag_size 0 ag_alts 0 ag_off 0
boot blocks: #1 at 32 #2 at 96
bootfile: sdmach
host name: localhost
root partition: a
read/write partition: b
part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount
type
a 0 1015617 8192 1024 16 4096 10% yes time yes
4.3BSD
Decoding of the label:
1 partition, start at block 0 (after front_porch which is 160 1k blocks )
size 1015617 1k block ie 1,040,155,648 bytes.
Result of df command:
root@demo1> df .
Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on
/dev/sd0a 983503 808411 76741 91% /
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Date: 30 Nov 1993 00:24:04 -0500
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The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
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related Newsgroups
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
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Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
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From: ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: White Hardware: 10x7 Display Satisfactory?
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 04:04:57 EST
Organization: Delphi Internet
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References: <billc.1105019304C@nntp.netcom.com>
Bill:
As a former user of 040 hardware(1120x832) and current user of Intel with
1074x768, I actually like the slightly enlarged size for working on a
17" . If you are going to a 21" monitor, you would definitely want at least
1120x832, and preferably 1152x900(or 1280x1024). This is very subjective :-)
Martin Fossum
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From: costello@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (T Costello)
Subject: Multiple Screens on NS/FIP
Message-ID: <COSTELLO.93Nov30014255@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>
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Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: 30 Nov 1993 09:42:55 GMT
Does anyone know if it is possible to have multiple
screens on an intel platform. I know it was possible with
cubes, but I can find no references to it in the NeXT ftp site.
T
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Trackball for the NeXTstation (non-ADB)
Message-ID: <CHB1qy.Hq3@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
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References: <1993Nov29.183605.19502@sfu.ca>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 12:37:46 GMT
In article <1993Nov29.183605.19502@sfu.ca> richard@sfu.ca (Richard
Chycoski) writes:
> Does anyone know of a source for a trackball that works with a
monochrome,
> non-turbo, non-ADB NeXTstation?
>
> (Or, does anyone know of a hack for a trackball that wasn't orginally
intended
> for the NeXT? I don't mind replacing the electronics in the trackball if
> necessary!)
>
> --
> - Richard Chycoski richard@sfu.ca (NeXT Mail OK)
> Senior Systems Consultant
> Academic Computing Services
> Simon Fraser University
Yeah, but i hope the firm still exists
Contact: CH Products
970 Park Ctr. Dr., Vista
CA 92083. 619/598-2518
Pricing: $179
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Trackball for the NeXTstation (non-ADB)
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.122058.3145@free.fdn.org>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 12:20:58 GMT
In article <1993Nov29.183605.19502@sfu.ca> richard@sfu.ca (Richard
Chycoski) writes:
> Does anyone know of a source for a trackball that works with a
monochrome,
> non-turbo, non-ADB NeXTstation?
>
> (Or, does anyone know of a hack for a trackball that wasn't orginally
intended
> for the NeXT? I don't mind replacing the electronics in the trackball if
> necessary!)
>
> --
> - Richard Chycoski richard@sfu.ca (NeXT Mail OK)
> Senior Systems Consultant
> Academic Computing Services
> Simon Fraser University
I did it with a low power Macintosh plus compatible tackball and I had to
make a minor modification to get the other button working.
Db9 Mac pin-out
1 GND
2 +5
3 GND
4 X dir
5 X clock
6 not connected
7 mouse switch
8 Y dir
9 Y clock
MiniDin 8 NeXT pin-out
1 +5
2 Xa
3 Xb
4 Ya
5 Yb
6 right mouse switch
7 left mouse switch
8 GND
I the cursor moves in the wrong direction invert *a and *b (X or Y signal
concerned)
Hope that the above helps :-)
--Fabien
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Power on cube sans monitor?
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.125817.3290@free.fdn.org>
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 12:58:17 GMT
In article <2ddug2$imp@news1.digex.net> jtod@access.digex.net (John Todd)
writes:
>
> I'm trying to get my monitorless '030 cube to netboot of my '040 3.0
> station. I think that I've muddled through all the setup stuff
properly,
> with only a little ad-libbing, but now the hard part arises:
>
> How do I turn on the cube? I know that one of the pins on the monitor
> cable is the "power" key, but which one? And what pin do I "ground" it
> to? Are there any problems with the power not being terminated by the
> monitor? (IOW: does the power supply need a monitor drawing the
amperage
> away in order to work properly or not overheat?)
>
> I know this has to be in the FAQs somewhere, but at .0001 K per second
> transfer rates from my site, I could be on the phone for literally days
> searching. Please mail replies, as my newsreader also operates at these
> pitiful speeds so I rarely read news.... <sob>
>
> John
>
> --
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Try a 470 ohm resistor between pin 6 and 13
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From: Tony Wosnjuk
Subject: Power Supply Dead.
Message-ID: <CHB9M0.1EE@Provo.Novell.COM>
Keywords: The dead power supply
Sender: usenet@Provo.Novell.COM (USENET News)
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 15:27:36 GMT
I have a Black&White WorkStation with a dead power supply. It is
not the battery, that was the first thing I checked. I put another power
supply in and it worked great. I can't find a FAQ about who does the
hardware support now.
Can anybody tell me where I can order a new power supply?
Thanks,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gfin@cyber.psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Subject: Re: White Hardware: 10x7 Display Satisfactory?
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.155912.10636@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
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Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 15:59:12 GMT
William Courington writes
> I'm in the interesting position of finding Intel machines
> that run both Solaris and NeXTStep. My job would be
> easier if I could settle on 1074x768 for the displays...
I use 1024x768x2 on my white box, and I'd say it's enough.
Sure, more would be better, but I don't think this res is
a serious problem. I havn't seen 800x600, but I doubt that
it would be adequate for a usable desktop. As for these
guys who are keen on putting NS up on a notebook (all of
which are limited to 640x480), they're crazy. Straight VGA
is just not enough pixels for a NeXTSTEP desktop.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
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From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky)
Subject: Looking for pcad!dgee@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.154558.29770@news.yale.edu>
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Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 15:45:58 GMT
Sorry to waste bandwidth here, folks, but for some reason, my server
refuses to contact his, so I'm posting to all the groups where I may have
"met" him.
Dave, if you see this, I need to "speak" to you.
If anyone else knows this man and can get a message to him, please let him
know that I'm looking for him.
Thanks a lot,
Lenny Turetsky
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From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag-2)
Subject: Ext. HD on 'Station
Message-ID: <CHBD30.4ou@news.cis.umn.edu>
Keywords: Hard Drive, external, SCSI
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Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 16:39:27 GMT
Hello All,
I recently purchased an external SCSI HD to augment the rapidly
dwindling space on my 040 'Station. After connecting the HD to the
'Station and powering everything up, I can see the HD is in Mac format
, so I initialize under NeXT format. Everything's going well. The
problem now is that I read the NeXT System Admin. documentation in order
to see how set file permissions on the new drive and get lost...
From what I can glean from the text and the man pages for fstab and
disk and mount, I need to create an entry for the new drive in the
/etc/fstab file and somehow place information in the /etc/disktab
file. Is this correct? Unfortunately, the documentation doesn't
give me any examples on how to do this, so I'm asking the net.
If anyone can provide a recipe for restricting file access and
partitioning the external drive, I would be ecstatic.
Please send responses via email; I shall post a summary of responses
in the future!
-Sharad Shanbhag
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9218
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Department of Neurosurgery
University of Minnesota email:
421 Lions Research Building sharad@nextear.psych.umn.edu
2001 6th St. SE shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
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From: shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag-2)
Subject: CD-ROMS for Black Hardware
Message-ID: <CHBDD9.50v@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Keywords: CD-ROM, NeXTStation
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Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 16:43:37 GMT
Hello,
I am interested in obtaining a CD-ROM drive for my NeXTStation running
NS3.0. Must I use a NeXT CD-ROM, or have people had any success using
other SCSI CD-ROM drives? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Please send responses via email.
-Sharad Shanbhag
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9218
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From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky)
Subject: Anyone have anything on Contaq motherboards?
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.160924.692@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 16:09:24 GMT
How are Contaq VESA VLB motherboards with NS/iP? Has anyone tried to use
one? Did it work OK? Did it not?
If it worked, how was performance?
The reason I'm asking is that I've got offers of an ASUS motherboard
(which I hear is _the_ mb for NS/iP at $125, and a Contaq at $75).
All help would be appreciated ;-D
Lenny Turetsky
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From: daf@wts.com (David A. Fox)
Subject: problem with new Adaptec SCSI controller
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.103144.4378@wts.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 10:31:44 EST
Organization: Wegmans Electronic Banking Services
I am currently building a 486-DX2/66 with a micropolis 1gig SCSI drive. The
SCSI controller I am using is the new Adaptec 1542CF Controller. The NextStep
3.1 Eval kit doesn't work properly with it. Supposedly 3.2 does work, even
though Next does not officially support that Adaptech controller. Anybody
know of a patch for 3.1?
Thanks,
Dave Fox
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From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Trackball for the NeXTstation (non-ADB)
Date: 30 Nov 1993 11:55:07 -0600
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Richard Chycoski writes:
> Does anyone know of a source for a trackball that works with a
> monochrome, non-turbo, non-ADB NeXTstation?
>
> (Or, does anyone know of a hack for a trackball that wasn't
> orginally intended for the NeXT? I don't mind replacing the
> electronics in the trackball if necessary!)
Ok, this as a hint:
One night I got extremely tired of that mouse on my PC running NSFIP.
Due to the very light weight ball inside the mouse (and most of the
PC-mice seem to have those) that @#%$@ mouse always was behaving, as
if there was dirt inside, even when there wasn't...
In my desperation, I remembered an old Next mouse with a broken
cable, that happened to live somewhere in the dark of my
'laboratory'... So I went to catch it, and performed some a lobotomy
(oh jeeez, i'm reading to much Calvin and Hobbes) on this mouse and
the mouse on the PC. The signals seemed to be compatible, so I wired
together some adapter (don't ask, I don't have a wiring diagram, and
as long as it works, I definitively don't want to see that hack
again). But ever since, may PC has a black mouse, and all the
problems have gone (since the ball in the black mouse has about
triple the weight of the ball in the white mouse).
That leads me to the conclusion, that all mice/trackballs with
'standart' mechanism have more or less compatible signals, and its
just a matter of an adapter. But I don't take any responsibilities!!!
Gerd
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Booting from not-the-lowest SCSI address
Date: 30 Nov 1993 18:12:31 GMT
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SOWA.93Nov30101233@amdew.llnl.gov>
Suppose I have a bootable disk at SCSI 0 and another bootable disk at
SCSI 2. The correct way to boot from the second disk is:
bsd(2,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd2a
This certainly works if I type the command explicitly, and it certainly
needs the rootdev specification. It would be nice if I could make that
the default. Unfortunately, the default specification can only be 12
characters. Does anyone know an acceptable abbreviation to the above
incantation (minus the initial 'b' of course) that fits in the
12-character limit?
(Yes, of course I could just switch the SCSI addresses, but I shouldn't
have to...)
--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
From: bkr@drdhh.hanse.de (Bjoern Kriews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 040 cube serial port data rate
Date: 27 Nov 1993 07:52:29 +0100
Organization: Digital Island
Message-ID: <bkr.754383017@drdhh>
References: <n9240566.753727469@fozzie>
Keywords: 040 NeXT Cube serial port data rate
n9240566@fozzie.cc.wwu.edu (Leif E. Harrison) writes:
> Does an 040 cube support data rates of 14.4K and up?
I have run a 14.4k modem at 38400 for 1 1/2 years without
any problems under 2.1.
With 3.1 I experienced 'unexpected kernel page faults'
when using ppp (at remote hangups) - I don't know it it's
a ppp (Cuperman 0.3) problem, but the message looks like a
kernel problem. Standard usage (Dialup, Dialout, UUCP) is
no problem.
Greetings, bjoern
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By definition, a properly functioning kernel doesn't allow user programs to
make it crash unless they say "please". (Richard Stallman)
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From: nyse@nice (Hermann Behrens)
Subject: Problems with non-standard fonts on a ps-printer
Sender: news@nice.delme.north.de (news)
Organization: nice Delmenhorst
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 02:10:39 GMT
Message-ID: <nyse.754625439@nice>
Hello World,
I bought recently a Texas-Instruments PS-printer. Now I've the problem
to print non-standard PS-Fonts(e.g. from the PD-Pool) on this printer.
If I want to use them, I have to download them, right? But how can I
do this automatically? I installed a programm called
'PrintFonts'(perl-script etc.) but this programm depends on a
'%%DocumentFonts:' in the postscript-source and not every programm
supports this Line. Is there a better way to inform a laser-printer of
needed fonts?
ciao, Hermann Behrens
--
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From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 2 questions on a CD-ROM drive on a NeXT CUBE
Date: 30 Nov 1993 19:47:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Message-ID: <2dg815$o8t@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
I just installed NS 3.2. I seem to recall that earlier there used to be a
warning that a CD-ROM drive w/o a disk in it may slow down the system. Is
this still the case with 3.2?
In addition, is it possible to mount a CD-ROM disk via telnet w/o actually
sitting at the console? I tried it but couldn't. I could do it with the
good old OpticalDisk drive: /usr/etc/mount -v /dev/od0a /OD
Please respond by email. Thanks. Take care...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@gsbkdd.uchicago.edu (Kent Daniel)
Subject: ZyXEL U1496E modem - Recommended Suppliers?
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.210924.14843@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 21:09:24 GMT
Does anyone have a recommendation for the best/lowest price supplier for
the ZyXEL modems.
Thanks in advance,
Kent Daniel
kent@gsbkdd.uchicago.edu
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Parallel Port on a PC
Date: 29 Nov 1993 09:29:59 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2dcbu7$3h7@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2d6ki3$ld7@crcnis1.unl.edu> <CH5E4n.C1n@demon.co.uk>
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david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk writes:
>>The question was can you use an add-on I/O board
>The answer in our experience is yes you can use an add-on serial/parallel board
>as long as you check the irq/dma ports are configured correctly. We use an
>add-on board with 2xS/1xP and IDE as well for our entry level systems and all
>works fine.
I haven't seen any parallel port implementation in a PC with NS/I that
did not work yet.
--
Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und
zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!"
-----
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Miro Crystal card ???
Date: 29 Nov 1993 09:33:01 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2dcc3t$3i3@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <steve.23.0008A925@eps.rain.com>
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steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) writes:
>Does anyone have any info on the Miro Crystal card?? Is it a PCI based video
>that there are drivers for NS_FIP? Where could I get one...
The Miro drivers were enhanced by Miro, so drivers is no problem.
The performance of the Miro cards is really neat. It works with VLB (if you
have 4 MB, it works with 32 bit color depth!), and it should work with PCI,
too, if you can already buy this combination.
--
Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und
zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!"
-----
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jmh@info.polymtl.ca (Jean-Marc Heneman)
Subject: STB powergraph VL24 S3-805 card?
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.162538.29852@vlsi.polymtl.ca>
Summary: this card gives fuzzy screen results for all configs!
Keywords: VL24 STB POWERGRAPH S3-805
Sender: news@vlsi.polymtl.ca (USENET News System)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 16:25:38 GMT
i have a powergraph vl-24 s3-805 card from STB.
I tried all selection available on updated S3-Drivers (nextanswer).
None of these appear to be OK! what's wrong?
Apparently, NS3.1 recognize the s3-805 card but when the reboot is
completed, the screen went fuzzy for all configuration.
Please, help me!
Any hints welcome...
I read something about port 2E8h in the notice, is there conflict whith
the port shown in configuration.app (3b0h if i remember well)? and what
about the com2/com4 2E8h port conflict?
what is this 4096K at h3C00000 memory mapped? Isn't it 0A0000?
by the way, i own a mitsubishi 15FS. it's able to go up to 1024*768 non-
interlaced mode.
--
jmh
jean-marc heneman = jmh@info.polymtl.ca
if mail bounces, try jmh@aircanada.ca
I prefer ASCII mail for now, but you can send me NextMail for attachment
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From: kluge@avalon.unizh.ch (Daniel G. Kluge)
Subject: Re: CD-sampling (a summary of replies)
Message-ID: <1993Dec1.000159.3919@ifi.unizh.ch>
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
References: <9311261530.AA26821@Cranach.tms-gmbh.de>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 00:01:59 GMT
Gerd Knops (gerti@tms-gmbh.de) wrote:
: I can confirm, that it is possible to read data from a music CD with
: a Toshiba 3401. I did it myself on both black and white HW, and
: stored the data as .snd file. If there is enough interest arround, I
: might write a program that enables one to do so.
A friend told me, that there is such a program already flying around on
the Internet, here is archie's response:
play3201v1.0.tar.gz
cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/binaries/util
nova.cc.purde.edu:/pub/next/submissions
alf.uib.no:/pub/unix/next/source
src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/computing/systems/next/submissions
(lying around sincs Aug 23, mostly in submissions folders tststssts )
-daniel
--
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E-Mail : kluge@avalon.unizh.ch (NeXT-Mail welcome)
study-related stuff : dankluge@iiic.ethz.ch
DECnet : EZINFO::CLUESCH
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Booting from not-the-lowest SCSI address
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 22:15:31 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Igz0lHq00iV4QEVBpz@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <SOWA.93Nov30101233@amdew.llnl.gov>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 30-Nov-93 Booting from
not-the-lowest.. by Erik C. Sowa@amdew.llnl.
> Suppose I have a bootable disk at SCSI 0 and another bootable disk at
> SCSI 2. The correct way to boot from the second disk is:
>
> [..munch..]
>
> (Yes, of course I could just switch the SCSI addresses, but I shouldn't
> have to...)
Umm, the idea behind setting the SCSI target numbers is to determine
which device you boot off of (and which physical devices get mapped to
which logical devices). NeXTstep tries to boot off of the lowest SCSI
id present by default.
What other significance did you think the SCSI target numbers had?
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
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From: pspriet@xlan.fdn.org (Paul Spriet)
Subject: Opcode Midi interface
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.181835.11442@xlan.fdn.org>
Sender: news@xlan.fdn.org
Organization: X&LAN - Bordeaux, France.
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 18:18:35 GMT
Hi all
Has someone succeded in making the OPCODE MIDI TRANSLATOR II work with
black hardware.
Last year, my OPCODE MIDI TRANSLATOR (not II) worked fine with NeXTSTEP
2.1 and ensemble or PRESTO Demo.
But I sold it to a Frnch NeXT user a few monthes ago.
So I ordered a new OPCODE, and I was send a MIDI TRANSLATOR II (the new
version of the MIDI TRANSLATOR of OPCODE).
I try it with PRESTO Demo, and ensemble (with the MusicKit), and the data
seem not to go through the interface since the leds are blinking.
Do I have to start a special daemon to make the tty port work at 31,5Kbds?
Or do I have to make a new cable (I use the one which works with the last
TRANSLATOR).
Its very important for me to make it work.
Thanx in advance.
--
+----------------------------------------------------------+
| Paul SPRIET | Email/NeXTmail: pspriet@xlan.fdn.org |
| X&LAN - FRANCE | Tel(+33)56 51 04 89 Fax(+33)56 51 05 31 |
+----------------------------------------------------------+
From: Seth Ruffins <sr2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Dead Power Supply
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 08:17:17 -0500
Organization: Doctoral student, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <4gz9ZRq00WB_A47npI@andrew.cmu.edu>
Bell Atlantic is servicing NeXT hardware. Give them a call @ 1-800-499-next.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: What MO for NEXTSTEP (Black or White)
Message-ID: <CHByvB.7JL@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <1993Nov29.210153.577@parsec.mixcom.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 00:33:09 GMT
In article <1993Nov29.210153.577@parsec.mixcom.com> alberto@SmartSoft.COM writes:
>Dear NetLand:
>
>We are looking into a Magneto-Optical drive to use for use as a backup device and
>for storing stuff that we don't use often. The drive may be moved between black
>and white hardware, so it needs to work with both.
>We want something that is fairly fast (there may be times where the drive will
>double as a 'hard drive').
>
>What are the better 128 or 256 MO's out there? - and how do they work with
>NEXTSTEP? Would you get another HD instead?
>
>Please reply to me - I'll summarize the results.
>
>---
>Alberto Ricart
>SmartSoft, Inc.
>2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
>alberto@SmartSoft.COM - NeXTMail Welcome
>--
>Alberto Ricart
>SmartSoft, Inc.
>2220 E. Linnwood Avenue, Milwaukee, WI 53211-3321
I bought a Pinnacle Micro PMO-650 5.25 rewritable optical hard disk drive.
It holds more than the old NeXT OD on each side (unformatted capacity is 650
megabytes split between the sides). It is a SCSI device that works equally
well on both my black an white hardware (makes a high-capacity sneaker-net
for remote machines!!).
You need to put an entry in /etc/disktab as follows:
----
PINNACLEOHD-650:\
:ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#18643:nt#1:ns#31:ss#1024:rm#3600:\
:fp#160:bp#256:\
:os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#288339:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
-----
for the black hardware. It seems the white hardware is already set up ok
(which is what you'd expect for a SCSI device).
It works great and I highly recommend it.
Pinnacle's address etc:
Pinnacle Micro Inc.
19 Technology
Irvine CA 92718
USA
714-727-3300
Fax 714-727-1913
david
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voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge.
nextmail: hill@flip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca | (Albert Einstein)
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Subject: Newton (deutsche Ausgabe)
From: roland.wandfluh@active.ch (Roland Wandfluh)
Message-ID: <2.5472.213.0N728219@active.ch>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 93 13:02:00 +0001
Organization: ACTIVE-NET BBS - Rapperswil, Switzerland
Howdy !
Ich habe gehoert, dass der deutsche Newton wieder zurueck gezogen wurde,
da er einige Fehler aufgewiesen hat. Die neue Version komme so Ende
Dezember, Anfangs Januar raus.
Weiss irgend jemand etwas mehr ueber diese Geschichte ?
So schreibe mir doch eine Mail in diese Box oder an
roland.wandfluh@active.ch
Gruss Roli
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Pentium Machines w/ fast SCSI for NS?
Date: 1 Dec 1993 17:54:51 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2dilpb$ap0@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <2d6863$sku@news.mic.ucla.edu> <2dbg2i$eii@tunix.cubiculum.com> <2de4gi$68u@news.mic.ucla.edu>
Conclusion: Because noone contradicted me, it looks like the only available
Pentium machines in the USA are the ALR and the Compaq, neither of which
seems to have PCI.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Booting from not-the-lowest SCSI address
Date: 01 Dec 1993 17:55:45 GMT
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SOWA.93Dec1095545@amdew.llnl.gov>
References: <Igz0lHq00iV4QEVBpz@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-reply-to: Charles William Swiger's message of Tue, 30 Nov 1993 22:15:31 -0500
>>>>> "Charles" == Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
Charles> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 30-Nov-93 Booting
Charles> from not-the-lowest.. by Erik C. Sowa@amdew.llnl.
>> Suppose I have a bootable disk at SCSI 0 and another bootable disk at
>> SCSI 2. The correct way to boot from the second disk is:
>>
>> [..munch..]
>>
>> (Yes, of course I could just switch the SCSI addresses, but I
>> shouldn't have to...)
Charles> Umm, the idea behind setting the SCSI target numbers is to
Charles> determine which device you boot off of (and which physical
Charles> devices get mapped to which logical devices). NeXTstep tries
Charles> to boot off of the lowest SCSI id present by default.
Well, silly me, I thought the idea of setting SCSI target numbers was
simply to give each device a different address. Anyway, I understand
what the default is and wish to override it without having to edit fstab
and get inside my disk enclosure to rejumper my drive whenever I want to
change the default boot drive. (I have 3.1 on one drive and 3.2 on the
other.) My question still stands. Is there a way to abbreviate
"sd(2,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd2a"
to 12 characters? It's not really urgent since I *can* change the scsi
addresses but it would be *ever* so convenient.
--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: taylor@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Dr Richard Taylor)
Subject: Next ofn Dells
Message-ID: <1993Dec1.180520.3416@sol.cs.wmich.edu>
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 18:05:20 GMT
some little time back, I was told that dell were going to be shipping
PCs with NS installed. Is this true for the US ?
rwt
From: jdk5906@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jason D. Kridner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Pentium Machines w/ fast SCSI for NS?
Date: 1 Dec 1993 13:42:09 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Message-ID: <2dis2h$bub@tamsun.tamu.edu>
References: <2d6863$sku@news.mic.ucla.edu> <2dbg2i$eii@tunix.cubiculum.com> <2de4gi$68u@news.mic.ucla.edu> <2dilpb$ap0@news.mic.ucla.edu>
In article <2dilpb$ap0@news.mic.ucla.edu>,
Ivo Welch <ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu> wrote:
>Conclusion: Because noone contradicted me, it looks like the only available
>Pentium machines in the USA are the ALR and the Compaq, neither of which
>seems to have PCI.
>
>
>Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
>Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
>AGSM at UCLA
Well, I've heard Gateway has shipped some PCI Pentium machines. I understand
that they get there motherboards from Intel. I believe there was a bug in
Intel's PCI chipset that disabled write-back on the Pentium's L2 cache
(whatever L2 cache is). I haven't gotten alot of straight information, but
some people on the net said that they have received there Gateway PCI Pentiums
and they seem to be working fine.
If you know what PCI SCSI controllers are good, let me know.
--
Jason Kridner / jdk@tamu.edu
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Booting from not-the-lowest SCSI address
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 14:51:56 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <QgzDLQu00iV4I6MhBY@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <SOWA.93Dec1095545@amdew.llnl.gov>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 1-Dec-93 Re: Booting from
not-the-lo.. by Erik C. Sowa:
> Well, silly me, I thought the idea of setting SCSI target numbers was
> simply to give each device a different address.
That, too, of course.
> Anyway, I understand what the default is and wish to override it without
> having to edit fstab and get inside my disk enclosure to rejumper my drive
> whenever I want to change the default boot drive.
On Sun machines (at least under SunOS 4.x), you have to rebuild the
kernel (!) to change the mappings. I kid you not; by default, SCSI id 1
is wired to the first hard drive, SCSI id 6 is wired to the first
CD-ROM, etc. I'd stick with /etc/fstab and be happy.... :-)
Besides which, can't you set up different /etc/fstab files on your two
drives so that you don't have to change them again? All you'd need to
do was change the SCSI target number on one drive. Leave your internal
drive at 1, and change the external drive from 0 to 2; your external
drive should have a nice switch to change the target number conveniently.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: mahoney@csulb.edu (Mike Mahoney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 1742 support?
Date: 1 Dec 1993 22:54:26 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Message-ID: <2dj7b2$nmo@garuda.csulb.edu>
Is it true that in NEXTSTEP 3.2 the Adaptec 1742 is only supported in 1542
emulation mode?
If so, it's a shame because it means NEXTSTEP 3.2 cannot be loaded on the same
machine that's running some other versions of UNIX. :-(
--
- Mike Mahoney, SCaN President
Professor and Chair
Computer Engineering and Computer Science Dept
California State University, Long Beach
Long Beach, CA 90840-8302
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Pentium Machines w/ fast SCSI for NS?
Date: 1 Dec 1993 23:32:36 GMT
Organization: UCLA Microcomputer Support Office
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2dj9ik$bvm@news.mic.ucla.edu>
References: <2d6863$sku@news.mic.ucla.edu> <2dbg2i$eii@tunix.cubiculum.com> <2de4gi$68u@news.mic.ucla.edu> <2dilpb$ap0@news.mic.ucla.edu>
I of course meant Pentium machines with PCI that run NeXTStep 3.2/Intel.
There are some interesting machines out that have sufficient features (e.g.,
DEC, Ambra, HP, Gateway). The question is: can they run NS?
Ivo Welch (ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu) wrote:
: Conclusion: Because noone contradicted me, it looks like the only available
: Pentium machines in the USA are the ALR and the Compaq, neither of which
: seems to have PCI.
Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
AGSM at UCLA
From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: PCI Pentium Machines w/ fast SCSI for NS?
Date: 1 Dec 1993 23:54:00 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2djaqo$1kt@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
References: <2dj9ik$bvm@news.mic.ucla.edu>
How can one tell if a given machine runs NS? The DEC XL line looks
perfect for NS, and the architecture has room to grow. Each individual
element of the machine appears to meet the compatibility requirements, but
the machine in brand new, and it is not certified or listed as compatible.
Someone posted to the net that they had seen NS run on this machine, or
someone told them that it runs. Any ideas for how to verify this?
In article <2dj9ik$bvm@news.mic.ucla.edu> ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo
Welch) writes:
> I of course meant Pentium machines with PCI that run NeXTStep 3.2/Intel.
>
> There are some interesting machines out that have sufficient features
(e.g.,
> DEC, Ambra, HP, Gateway). The question is: can they run NS?
>
>
> Ivo Welch (ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu) wrote:
> : Conclusion: Because noone contradicted me, it looks like the only
available
> : Pentium machines in the USA are the ALR and the Compaq, neither of
which
> : seems to have PCI.
>
>
> Ivo Welch ivo@128.97.74.50 = next.agsm.ucla.edu
> Asst Prof of Finance iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu
> AGSM at UCLA
From: mycroft@colourbox.utexas.edu (Alex Currier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Opcode Studio3 and '040 NeXT, cable pinout?
Date: 1 Dec 1993 23:36:08 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2dj9p8$ll7@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
To anyone who is successfully using an Opcode Studio3 and an '040 NeXT, did
you have to make a special cable to have it work? A while back someone posted
the pinout for a MIDI Translator to '040 cube... should I use that pinout (I
still have it, no need to repost)?
Thank you for your support.
--
==============================================================================
Alex Currier * mycroft@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu * NeXTmail capable!!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: harnton@world.std.com (James D Harrington)
Subject: Help!! External HD won't allow machine to boot
Message-ID: <CHDtpo.6zs@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 00:36:59 GMT
Hi Everybody,
I just bought a Sun external Hard Drive, SCSI-II, and when I plug it into
my NeXT, it won't allow my machine to boot. This is what happens:
1. In Verbose test mode, it passes the extended SCSI test.
2. The boot command, bsd, gets diplayed" bsd (0,0,0)" and then a number
of error messages:
bad version XXXXXXXXXX (don't have the numbers written down)
bad version ZZZZZZZZZZ (repeats 5 time)
bad label
3. It then returns me to the monitor prompt.
The drive is set on SCSI id 2, it is properly terminated, and it the only
external device on the chain.
Please help me if you know what this is about. Is it the wrong kind of
drive? Thanks in advance.
-JH
From: devans@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (David F Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Multiprocessor Cubes
Date: 1 Dec 1993 22:56:31 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2dj7ev$84t@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
If I want to run a multiprocessor cube, do I have to make modifications to
the backplane? If so, could someone point me towards instructions for the
modifications?
Also, can I mix and match '030/'040 boards? Does every board need an NBIC?
What is NeXTStep's multiprocessor support like...does it just let each processor
pull a process off the ready queue when it is free?
Always lots of questions.....
=============================================================================
David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK)
University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the
Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command."
- Roland TR-707 Manual
From: grdetil@gilles.scrc.umanitoba.ca (Gilles Detillieux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SUMMARY: How to add 8mm or DAT tape to 040 cube?
Date: 2 Dec 1993 01:10:33 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physiology, Univ. of Manitoba
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2djfa9$883@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>
A while back I posted a message asking about how I'd go about adding
an 8mm or DAT tape drive to a NeXT 040 Cube. I received many
responses. Thanks to all who replied -- I didn't get the chance
to acknowledge you all in person.
The consensus was that just about any external SCSI tape drive
(8mm, DAT or QIC) can be added to the Cube with a minimum of fuss
and bother. Some drives may need to be configured via switches or
jumpers in order to work correctly.
Any SCSI tape drive can be accessed through the /dev/rst0 device.
No special device drivers are needed.
The only hitch is that some drives (virtually all QIC drives and
some DAT drives which emulate QIC) require that SCSI blocking be
fixed to 512 bytes. This can be accomplished with the "setmtd" or
"mtset" utility from scsitools.tar.Z, available on the public
archives (including sonata.cc.purdue.edu, in pub/next/2.0-release/source).
Most new DAT drives allow variable-length blocks, so no special
setup of the device should be needed.
DAT drives were recommended over 8mm because of cost, features,
speed, reliability and support by several vendors.
--
Gilles Detillieux <Gilles@scrc.UManitoba.CA>
Spinal Cord Research Centre or <grdetil@muug.mb.ca>
Dept. of Physiology, U. of Manitoba Phone: (204)789-3766
Winnipeg, MB R3E 0W3 (Canada) Fax: (204)786-0932
From: mcdermott@IRVINE.DG.COM (J. Michael McDermott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Intel Internal FAXModem; will it work?
Date: 1 Dec 93 18:19:24
Organization: Data General, Irvine, CA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <MCDERMOTT.93Dec1181924@evian.IRVINE.DG.COM>
I forget the model number, but its the 14.4/14.4 data/FAX modem using the
(much beloved ;->) Rockwell Chipset. I know about (& don't need to
worry about) the Rockwell chipset's line quality fragility. How reliably
will this modem work as a data modem for SLIP high-speed connections? I've
gathered from the Nextanswers & this newsgroup that Nextstep's 16550
support still isn't "there yet", but if this modem has special problems
I'd like to know. Is there reason to believe the Internal USR Sportster
would have fewer problems with high data rates?
--
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2603 Main St, #360, Irvine, CA 92714 ARPA: mcdermott@irvine.dg.com
FAX: +1 714-724-3989 VOICE: +1 714-724-3933
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: 1742 support under 3.2?
Message-ID: <westesCHE3BI.AKv@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 04:04:29 GMT
Supposedly 3.2 was supposed to support the 1742. Now what I'm
seeing is that the drivers on the CD-ROM support 1742 only if you
first cripple to act like a 1542, which rather defeats the point of
spending extra money on a 1542 in the first place....
I'm hoping someone is going to tell me that there is a true 1742
driver available by ftp or email, and that NeXT just didn't get
around to delivering it in time for the 3.2 shipment.
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Use of NeXTSTEP with AMD 486-40?
Message-ID: <westesCHE3DJ.Aq4@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 04:05:43 GMT
Has anyone had success using the AMD 486-40 with NeXTSTEP? I have
heard rumors of UNIX incompatibilities with this chip, but it might
have well been the motherboard that was really to blame.
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Subject: Help, installation of Nextstep on intel
Message-ID: <2CFD758A.1588@news.service.uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 2 Dec 93 04:56:42 GMT
I have a clone 486DX33 ISA board with 2 floppy drives:
A: 1.2 5 1/4 drive
B: 1.44 3 1/2 drive.
According to the installation manual, Nextstep supports only one
3 1/2 drive. The 5 1/4 drive would then have to be disabled.
I disabled it through Setup and in fact physically disconnected the drive,
however, the computer will not boot from the 3 1/2 drive, even with
DOS. I tried to use Setup to set Drive A to be the 3 1/2 drive, still no
luck. It seems the system is configured to boot from either the 5 1/4
drive or the hard disk but not from the 3 1/2 drive.
I have three questions:
(1) how does the computer decide which drive is A and which is B?
My I/O card manual has only jumper setting of enable or disable
FDD. Is is by the order of cabling or jumpers on the drives.
I do not have the manuals for the FDDs.
(2) Is the reason that I can not boot from the 3 1/2 due to some kind of
jumper setting on the drive?
(3) It is a shame that next does not support the 5 1/4 drive.
Do we have to disable it or even physically disconnect it even
after Nextstep is successfully installed? It would be extremly
inconvenient if one has to reconnect the drive when one wants to boot
with DOS.
Any help with the above is appreciated.
Thank you.
Feng Liu
UC, Irvine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca (Dennis S. Breckenridge)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1740 and Sony CDU-541
References: <931127.15344.SPBENDER@delphi.com> <CH61n2.EAw@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Organization: "Alchemy Mindworks"
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 00:23:03 GMT
Message-ID: <CHA3qG.6L@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca>
Distribution: all
mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel) writes:
>In article <931127.15344.SPBENDER@delphi.com> SPBENDER@delphi.com writes:
>> NextStep reports No CD-ROM drive found at install:
>> Adaptec 1740 in enhanced mode, Sony CDU-541 SCSI ID 1.
>> Anyone have any hints on how to get NS installed with this
>configuration.
>>
>If you use NEXTSTEP 3.1 the ADAPTEC 1740 will not be supported
>- refering to the Compatibily Guide
I have tried it here with a 1742A as well for 3.1 and it does not see
the SCSI controller. Apparently 3.2 *does* support it, I can only hope
and wait for the arrival of same, to try it out.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dennis Breckenridge Microsoft Windoze. Genetic throwback from the
dennis@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca natural selection of UNIX.
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From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: Re: 1742 support under 3.2?
Message-ID: <jlemonCHE8zJ.Jyv@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <westesCHE3BI.AKv@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 06:06:54 GMT
In article <westesCHE3BI.AKv@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>Supposedly 3.2 was supposed to support the 1742. Now what I'm
>seeing is that the drivers on the CD-ROM support 1742 only if you
>first cripple to act like a 1542, which rather defeats the point of
>spending extra money on a 1542 in the first place....
>
>I'm hoping someone is going to tell me that there is a true 1742
>driver available by ftp or email, and that NeXT just didn't get
>around to delivering it in time for the 3.2 shipment.
Same here. I was quite suprised to see only a "1542B" driver when
I was expecting to see a 1742 option. I was also slightly disappointed
to see that NeXT didn't include any SCSI drivers in the DriverKit. A
1542 driver would be nice, if only as a starting point for writing
a new 1742 driver.
If there _is_ a driver around that supports the 1742 _enhanced_ mode,
please post a pointer to it!
--
Jonathan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: dgc@euphemia.math.ucla.edu (David G. Cantor)
Subject: Paper tray for black printer
Message-ID: <1993Nov30.190209.26622@math.ucla.edu>
Keywords: Paper tray
Sender: news@math.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 19:02:09 GMT
The paper tray for my black printer needs replacing. Does anyone know
if a paper tray for some other brand of laser printer will fit the NeXT?
Alternatively, does anyone have a paper tray to sell?
Thanks.
dgc
David G. Cantor
Department of Mathematics
University of California
Los Angeles, CA 90024-1555
Internet: dgc@math.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Subject: Re: Help, installation of Nextstep on intel
Message-ID: <1993Dec2.082116.328@dart.de>
Sender: aspohr@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <2CFD758A.1588@news.service.uci.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 93 08:21:16 GMT
In article <2CFD758A.1588@news.service.uci.edu> feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng
Liu) writes:
> I have a clone 486DX33 ISA board with 2 floppy drives:
> A: 1.2 5 1/4 drive
> B: 1.44 3 1/2 drive.
> According to the installation manual, Nextstep supports only one
> 3 1/2 drive. The 5 1/4 drive would then have to be disabled.
> I disabled it through Setup and in fact physically disconnected the drive,
> however, the computer will not boot from the 3 1/2 drive, even with
> DOS. I tried to use Setup to set Drive A to be the 3 1/2 drive, still no
You just told your computer to expect a 1.44 drive at the connection for drive
A. In fact there was none, 'cause you disconnected it.
> luck. It seems the system is configured to boot from either the 5 1/4
> drive or the hard disk but not from the 3 1/2 drive.
> I have three questions:
> (1) how does the computer decide which drive is A and which is B?
> My I/O card manual has only jumper setting of enable or disable
> FDD. Is is by the order of cabling or jumpers on the drives.
> I do not have the manuals for the FDDs.
You have to switch the cabling. PCs ignore jumpers on FDs: they allways have to
be drive A. So your 1.44 Drive is still drive B (because of the cabling, not
the jumper).
> (2) Is the reason that I can not boot from the 3 1/2 due to some kind of
> jumper setting on the drive?
As I said: no. Don't touch 'em.
> (3) It is a shame that next does not support the 5 1/4 drive.
1.44MB is few, 1.2MB would be fewer. I'll stick with 2.88MB (black) and even
this is too few! I would never use those schlabberigen 5.25" disks again.
> Do we have to disable it or even physically disconnect it even
> after Nextstep is successfully installed? It would be extremly
> inconvenient if one has to reconnect the drive when one wants to boot
> with DOS.
I did not try.
Atze
--
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Alexander_Spohr@dART.de (Mail ) Faces and faces
(+49) 40 / 380 23-0 (Sound) See them and complain not
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From: jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WHY S3-805 WITH 2Mb CAN'T SUPPORT 1024x768 COLOR?
Date: 2 Dec 1993 04:49:59 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9312021149.AA23973@di.uminho.pt>
Hello,
I also have a S3-805 (with 2Mb), and I don't have *any* problems at
all. The resolutions that it supports are, 800x600 Color or 1024x768
Mono. The updated driver (from NeXTanswers) didn't change anything; I
think that the updated driver improves only the S3-928.
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY S3-805 WITH 2Mb, CAN'T SUPPORT 1024x768 COLOR?
It seems to me that it only uses 1Mb, although when registering the
video board it says that it has 2Mb. It's a board limitation (it runs
fine with MS-Windows...)? or a driver limitation?...(I have NS3.1).
Thank you all in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: BOOSC@EZINFO.VMSMAIL.ETHZ.CH (Chris Boos)
Subject: 1.2 GB Harddisk on NS FIP reduced to 1GB :((((
Message-ID: <CHEr3D.IxF@bernina.ethz.ch>
Sender: news@bernina.ethz.ch (USENET News System)
Organization: ETH a school stuck in a dead city
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 12:37:59 GMT
Hi
I have a 1.2 GB Toshiuba SCSI Harddisk. And an Adaptech 1542C controller.
I have not enabled the Adaptech GB option, since it has ben unneccessary so
far.
I wanted the following partitioning:
1 MB OS/2 Bootmanager
50 MB DOS
20 MB System Maintenence (FAT FIlesystem)
70 MB OS/2 Boo Partition (HPFS)
270 MB OS/2 Data Partition (HPFS)
730 MB NeXTstep
The setup works Great.,, I boot Next via the OS/2 Bootmanager.
The problem is, that the NextStep Fdisk only sees 1 GB of the Harddisk, which
makes my Next Parition 580 MB insted of 730 and leaves me with 150 MB unusable
DISKSPACE....
That is not to great, specialy since the information feature of FDisk reports
HD Reports: 1.22 GB
BIOS Reports: 1.00 GB
and it uses the Bios setting. since it is widely known that the AT BIOS can not
handle more than one GB, why does NS use this seting ????
And is there a fix ? Or is it fixed in 3.2 ?
Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ugubser@avalon.unizh.ch (gubser urs)
Subject: Having trouble with my OD
Message-ID: <1993Dec2.134544.15088@ifi.unizh.ch>
Sender: news@ifi.unizh.ch (USENET News Admin)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 13:45:44 GMT
Is it possible to clean an Optical Drive ? Since i had a lot dust in my flat (caused during heavy work) my Optical has some problem with newfs. It stops always at the same block with an IO-error msg.
Maybe thats already in the FAQ. I remeber a thread someone was talking about problems with older Optical drives (it's a 030 cube), anyway please help me.
Thanx,
- Urs
ugubser@avalon.unizh.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gfin@cyber.psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Subject: Re: Help, installation of Nextstep on intel
Message-ID: <1993Dec2.150300.15938@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <2CFD758A.1588@news.service.uci.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 15:03:00 GMT
Feng Liu writes
> how does the computer decide which drive is A and which is B?
> Is the reason that I can not boot from the 3 1/2 due to some kind of
> jumper setting on the drive?
IBM decided to save users the trouble of changing the drive-select
jumper on drive B: by putting a twist in the cable from the floppy
controller. This swaps the drive 0 and drive 1 select signals at
the cable connector, so by just plugging in two drives that are
jumpered to act as drive 0, you end up with one drive 0 (ie A:)
and one drive 1 (B:). To make your 3 1/2" drive respond as drive A:,
plug it in to the other cable connector where your 5 1/4" drive
was. You could do the same thing by changing the drive select jumper
on the 3 1/2" drive, but swapping the cable connector is simpler.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lturetsk@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Lenny Turetsky)
Subject: AIR QACCESS VLB COMBO IDE/SCSI
Message-ID: <1993Dec2.154303.27570@news.yale.edu>
Sender: news@news.yale.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 15:43:03 GMT
[ Article crossposted from comp.soft-sys.nextstep ]
[ Author was Lenny Turetsky ]
[ Posted on Thu, 2 Dec 1993 15:41:31 GMT ]
Does anyone out there know if the A.I.R. QACCESS VLB COMBO
IDE/SCSI/IO card works with NS/iP? Any replies (yeses or nos (sp?)) would
be much appreciated.
LT
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Same Monitor Cable for ADB?
Date: 2 Dec 1993 16:46:39 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2dl65g$6gt@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi all,
can I use a long cube monitor cable with an ADB
(black) monitor? Are the pinouts the same?
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
nsuser
From: shukin@duke.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: WHY S3-805 WITH 2Mb CAN'T SUPPORT 1024x768 COLOR?
Date: 2 Dec 1993 17:43:33 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <2dl9g5$7mt@tribune.usask.ca>
References: <9312021149.AA23973@di.uminho.pt>
Jorge Gustavo Rocha (jgr@di.uminho.pt) wrote:
: Hello,
: I also have a S3-805 (with 2Mb), and I don't have *any* problems at
: all. The resolutions that it supports are, 800x600 Color or 1024x768
: Mono. The updated driver (from NeXTanswers) didn't change anything; I
: think that the updated driver improves only the S3-928.
: CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY S3-805 WITH 2Mb, CAN'T SUPPORT 1024x768 COLOR?
: It seems to me that it only uses 1Mb, although when registering the
: video board it says that it has 2Mb. It's a board limitation (it runs
: fine with MS-Windows...)? or a driver limitation?...(I have NS3.1).
: Thank you all in advance.
Further to this, I recently upgraded the memory on my S3 video card to 2
meg and I can not select any other mode expect for 800x600 (color) at
60hz. The start up tells me that I have a two meg card yet I can not
even switch to 1024x768 mono!
This is with 3.1
Thanks
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Geoff Shukin | _ ___
| |\ | |_ \/ | step
NeXT User and Proud of it. | | \| |_ /\ | rules!
Windows NT: It's not NeXT, but. | My opinions are just that!
Voice: (306) 933-6415 | NeXTMail--> shukin@siast.sk.ca
Internet addresses: shukin@doc.siast.sk.ca OR shukin@jester.usask.ca
______________________________________________________________________________
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From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Q: why is DPT 2012 floppy unsupported
Message-ID: <1993Dec2.171346.20699@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 17:13:46 GMT
We're having major problems connecting an external CD-ROM to our DPT 2012
SCSI controller. In the process, we discovered that the floppy drive is
connected to the DPT card, even though the Hardware compat. guide and
NeXTANSWERS both say floppy controllers on SCSI cards are unsupported.
While we hunt down and interrogate the guy who built us this machine, does
anyone know why why the floppy is unsupported and more importantly, what
are the consequences of using it?
--
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
From: zhang@bach.ecse.rpi.edu (Ji Zhang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Help: nextstep will not recognize cdrom
Date: 2 Dec 1993 18:38:22 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2dlcmu$t6k@usenet.rpi.edu>
I just got the Nextstep 3.2 yesterday
and tried to install it. At the bootup,
the scsi cdrom drive was recognized. But
the cdrom in it was not, no matter what I do.
I then used the old 3.1 and couldn't
get that installed either. It used to be
no problem.
The sad part is
I had erased the old nextstep partition a few weeks ago
when I wanted to reinstall linux. I didn't install
nextstep 3.1 since I knew 3.2 was coming out soon.
So I now have no way of installing nextstep now.
The linux also couldn't recognize the cdrom.
Something was wrong. I hope it's not
the hardware. Have any one of you guys
had similar experience as this?
Thanks a lot.
Ji Zhang
zhang@ecse.rpi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Subject: PENTIUM + AMBRA = NS 3.2?
Message-ID: <CHFAp0.GLF@unix.portal.com>
Summary: Anyone get an Ambra Pentium working with 3.2
Keywords: Ambra,NS 3.2
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 19:41:21 GMT
Has any tried to install NS 3.2 on an Ambra Pentium box?
Brad Wright
wwright@premisys.com
wwright@shell.portal.com
From: jlamia@shl.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM PS/ValuePoint
Date: 2 Dec 1993 20:20:14 GMT
Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc.
Message-ID: <2dliluINN9fc@technet1.shl.com>
I am installing NeXTSTEP on an IBM PS/ValuePoint Model 6384. This
machine has an IDE controller with a 340MB hard drive attached. To
install the media I am using an Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller with
a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive attached. During the initialization
the Adaptec and the Toshiba are recognized by the process, but a
message occurs telling me that there is no hard drive in which
to install.
I assume that the process is not recognizing the IDE controller. I
need to know how to get the process to recognize the controller.
The SCSI controller is configured according to the manual, the floppy
interface is disabled.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
--
James R. Lamia | Internet: jlamia@shl.com
SHL Systemhouse Inc. | Voice: 310-403-4950
Cerritos, CA | Fax: 310-860-9668
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pat@biocat1.iit.edu (pathikrit bandyopadhyay)
Subject: mouse
Message-ID: <1993Dec2.193306.21724@iitmax.iit.edu>
Sender: news@iitmax.iit.edu (News)
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology / Academic Computing Center
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 93 19:33:06 GMT
my next mouse is behaving flaky. it seems a wire or two might be broken.
can you buy the mouse connection cable separately ? if so where ?
also can you connect a microsoft mouse to a next station ?
please reply to pat@biocat1.iit.edu
thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,next.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: printing problem
Message-ID: <1993Dec1.165328.9092@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 16:53:28 GMT
Hi. I'm having a problem printing from a 486 (running NS/FIP) to an
HP 4ML. The printer works fine from the Windows partition.
I have set up parallel port (PC BIOS) to irq7 and x378. I have used
Configure.app to use the same values for the parallel port. And, I
have used PrintManager to set up the printer (tried several different
300dpi postscript printer drivers, including the HP III Postscript
Plus --HP4ml is too new to be on the list.
I have tried a new cable... but if it works in Windows, as
configured, shouldn't it in NEXTSTEP?
What happens: When I send a print job, the appropriate printer lights
go on, to indicate the printer has received data and is processing;
The PrintManager queue shows the print job in the queue; nothing
prints; the printer eventually goes back to a ready/online state;
eventually, a window/panel comes up, saying "Some or all of the pages
in your print request could not be printed [OK]"; Print queue shows
no jobs; And no printing...
In the console, I see the following: "Nov. 30 15:06:47 hostname
Server:HP4ML[173]: Driver write error : Connection Timed Out."
I have increased the timeout period on the HP4ML to 255 seconds, with
no improvement.
I know that at least one other user is using the HP4ML with NS/FIP...
Any suggestions on how to further diagnose the source of this problem?
With appreciation,
Phil
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: Sound Driver for Intel GX?
Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Organization: The Irwin Hodson Company
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 00:16:16 GMT
Message-ID: <steve-011293161411@147.28.196.226>
Does 3.2 come with the sound driver for the onboard sound for the Intel
ProGX?
-steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: Ethernet laser Printer
Message-ID: <CHF9Gn.oq@alembicla.com>
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <1993Nov26.115255.23882@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 19:14:46 GMT
In article <1993Nov26.115255.23882@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> rtyler@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (tyler
richard s) writes:
!> Does anyone knows if it is possible to connect a laser printer
!> with an ethernet card in it on a NeXT ( black and white ) Ethernet Network?
!> Or can we only use the serial or parallel port?
!>
!> If it works, is it possible to use it still with the "Print Menu" of
!> the NeXT Apps?
!>
Yes! It is well documented in the Summer '93 NEXTSTEP In Focus issue on page 42. It is
also in NeXTAnswers Document 1279 available by sending email to nextanswers@next.com with
Subject: 1279
Hope that helps,
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V: 310.371.6226
F: 310.371.0886
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: Help, installation of Nextstep on intel
Message-ID: <CHF9v3.sC@alembicla.com>
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <2CFD758A.1588@news.service.uci.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 19:23:26 GMT
In article <2CFD758A.1588@news.service.uci.edu> feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes:
!> I have a clone 486DX33 ISA board with 2 floppy drives:
!> A: 1.2 5 1/4 drive
!> B: 1.44 3 1/2 drive.
!> According to the installation manual, Nextstep supports only one
!> 3 1/2 drive. The 5 1/4 drive would then have to be disabled.
!> I disabled it through Setup and in fact physically disconnected the drive,
!> however, the computer will not boot from the 3 1/2 drive, even with
!> DOS. I tried to use Setup to set Drive A to be the 3 1/2 drive, still no
!> luck. It seems the system is configured to boot from either the 5 1/4
!> drive or the hard disk but not from the 3 1/2 drive.
!> I have three questions:
!> (1) how does the computer decide which drive is A and which is B?
!> My I/O card manual has only jumper setting of enable or disable
!> FDD. Is is by the order of cabling or jumpers on the drives.
!> I do not have the manuals for the FDDs.
!> (2) Is the reason that I can not boot from the 3 1/2 due to some kind of
!> jumper setting on the drive?
!> (3) It is a shame that next does not support the 5 1/4 drive.
!> Do we have to disable it or even physically disconnect it even
!> after Nextstep is successfully installed? It would be extremly
!> inconvenient if one has to reconnect the drive when one wants to boot
!> with DOS.
Drive A and B are determined by physical cable connector. You probably have one cable
that daisy chains both of your drives. Often the connectors are labeled "A:" and "B:" or
some derivative. To switch drives you physically switch the connectors. My experience
with NSFIP is that the 5-1/4 drive can remain connected as drive B: without consequence.
NS just ignores it as it only support on floppy drive, the first one, Drive A:.
--
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V: 310.371.6226
F: 310.371.0886
From: tom@trohde.hanse.de (Thomas Rohde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: wanted: info on NeXT-optical disks, prices (double sided preferred)
Date: 29 Nov 1993 23:01:30 GMT
Organization: Self-organized organism feeding on chaos
Message-ID: <2ddv0a$1jb@trohde.hanse.de>
hello there,
I'd like to know where I can get the cheapest & best ;-)
optical disks for the NeXT optical drive. thanks for info
regards, tom
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov (ben sternlieb)
Subject: Gateway 2000 4DX2-66V
Message-ID: <1993Dec2.200233.15667@bnlux1.bnl.gov>
Followup-To: bens@bnlux1.bnl.gov
Summary: Anybody configured one to use with NS?
Sender: Ben Sternlieb
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 20:02:33 GMT
Hi,
486/NeXTstep neophyte in need of advice. In particular:
(1) Has someone out there brought up 3.2 on a Gateway?
(2) What stuff do I need in addition to the standard 4DX2-66V
Hardware and NeXTstep 3.2 ?
(3) Rumor has it that the combination of the ATI graphics card
and the Adaptec line of SCSI cards might have nasty side
effects. Any solutions ?
(4) Are there any more easily configured systems that provide
similar bang/$ ?
Thanks,
B
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: SCSI Termination Question
Message-ID: <1993Dec3.043901.13500@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 04:39:01 GMT
(a) Using a DPT 2012 EISA SCSI controller and an internal Fujitsu drive
with no problems.
(b) Want to hook up an external CD drive to install software, so I removed
the terminating resistors from the DPT card as per the instructions.
(c) To test, I put a "known working" SCSI terminator on the external port
and rebooted; system freezes initializing the controller (long before
NEXTSTEP gets involved).
(d) Take off the external terminator (without putting back the internal
resistors) and it boots OK.
This seems a bit strange. Any theories?
--
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Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry)
Subject: Apple CD150 Work?
Message-ID: <1993Dec3.043050.26367@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
Sender: news@netnews.noc.drexel.edu
Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 04:30:50 GMT
How well does the Apple CD150 work with a NeXT? Anyone using one?
Thanks,
Jon
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: Sound Driver for Intel GX?
Message-ID: <thompsonCHG75v.JMx@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <steve-011293161411@147.28.196.226>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 07:22:42 GMT
steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich) writes:
>
>Does 3.2 come with the sound driver for the onboard sound for the Intel
>ProGX?
>
Yes, it does.
Eric
From: alanlb@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Alan L. Batongbacal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need scsitools output for Quantum PD1050iS with 1K blocks
Date: 3 Dec 1993 07:28:09 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA
Message-ID: <2dmpq9$27r@server.cs.vt.edu>
If you have a Quantum PD1050iS 1.05GB drive formatted to 1024-byte
blocks, I'd really appreciate it if you would send me the output from
the 'sense' program, so that I could low-level format my drive
to 1K-blocks too.
scsitools is on sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/2.0-release/source.
The relevant commands would be like the following:
straker:1# ./inquire
-t 1 -l 0 "QUANTUM /PD1050iS /3072/" typ=0 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=2
-t 4 -l 0 "SONY /CD-ROM CDU-541 /2.6a/" typ=5 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=1 removable
straker:2#
straker:5# ./sense -t 1 -l 0 -p 63 >1050.sense
You could then e-mail 1050.sense.
Thanks!
-alan l. batongbacal
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.multimedia,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: The best sound card for Windows?
Message-ID: <westesCHG8Kt.G2r@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 07:53:16 GMT
I've heard reports that many sound cards take up huge amounts of CPU
time due to the DMA architecture on such cards. Which sound cards
for Windows, OS/2, and NeXSTEP get around - or at least minimize - this
problem. I understand that Turtle Beach makes a great product that uses
DSP rather than DMA, but that product costs a fortune. Is there
anything priced under $300 that uses EISA, DSP, or some other
technique to minimize or remove the impact of DMA?
--
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.multimedia,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: samkho@netcom.com (Samuel P Kho)
Subject: MIME format
Message-ID: <samkhoCHG8tF.1po@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <westesCHG8Kt.G2r@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 07:58:26 GMT
where can i find a description of the MIME format?
thanx!
- sam -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,andi.misc
From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director)
Subject: Re: The best sound card for Windows?
Message-ID: <CHGIJI.1G9@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Keywords: NeXTSTEP,ANDI
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <westesCHG8Kt.G2r@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 11:28:29 GMT
In article <westesCHG8Kt.G2r@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will
Estes) writes:
> Which sound cards
JC Information Systems just showed a prototype ISA sound card at
COMDEX which appears to have great potential. I am not printing
contact information because it is not ready yet and they are still
working on modifications to make it better. The target price for the
card is going to be VERY affordable.
We will post here when more information becomes available, and after
we have had a chance to put the card through testing.
On a related matter:
We are also looking at/for audio cards supported under NEXTSTEP that
offer QSound. This technology adds a 3 dimensional quality to audio.
It is a very noticable improvement.
---
Bill Strehl
Executive Director
ANDI - Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International, Inc.
reply to:marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org
"Take the NeXTSTEP and Keep on Truckin'..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ptuomola@echelon.hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola)
Subject: Intel GX/Pro, where can I get it?
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 13:18:43 GMT
Message-ID: <CHGnnM.A08@echelon.hacktic.nl>
Many people seem to be running NeXTstep/Intel on Intel GX/Pro, and someone
even said that this Intel GX/Pro is an ideal "white NeXTstation", or something
like that.
What is this computer anyway? I have never seen one, and a quick browse through
recent Bytes and PCMagazines revealed absolutely nothing - no tests, no bench-
marks, nothing. As I'm buying a machine to run NeXTstep, I'm very curious.
Could someone enlighten me? I can read from the Hardware Compatibility List
that it is 486 (surprise!) and it has EISA bus, but that's all. I would like
to know more - how much it costs, what are its features, what makes it so ideal
to run NeXTstep, and where do I get one - in Europe.
Thanks a lot.
Petri
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: Intel GX/Pro, where can I get it?
Message-ID: <1993Dec3.185718.616@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <CHGnnM.A08@echelon.hacktic.nl>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 18:57:18 GMT
In article <CHGnnM.A08@echelon.hacktic.nl> ptuomola@echelon.hacktic.nl (Petri
Tuomola) writes:
> Many people seem to be running NeXTstep/Intel on Intel GX/Pro, and someone
> even said that this Intel GX/Pro is an ideal "white NeXTstation", or
> something like that.
> What is this computer anyway? I have never seen one, and a quick browse
> through recent Bytes and PCMagazines revealed absolutely nothing - no tests,
> no benchmarks, nothing. As I'm buying a machine to run NeXTstep, I'm very
> curious.
> Could someone enlighten me? I can read from the Hardware Compatibility List
> that it is 486 (surprise!) and it has EISA bus, but that's all. I would like
> to know more - how much it costs, what are its features, what makes it so
> ideal to run NeXTstep, and where do I get one - in Europe.
The Intel Professional/GX Workstation is designed and manufactured by Intel.
What is so unique about this machine is its similarity with the original
NeXTstation. It has about the same size (pizzabox-format) and includes
NeXT-like features such as onboard-video, audio, SCSI-2, etc.
Unlike some other Intel 486 DX 2/66 systems it has a very optimzied DRAM access
and can be used with up to 128 MB of RAM.
You can buy the Intel Professional/GX from most NeXT distributors in Europe,
like d'ART in Germany, Interpersonal Computing Group in Holland, Initiera in
Sweden and Bytech in the UK (or thru their resellers).
Here is a typical configuration:
DX 2/66 CPU, 32 MB RAM, 450 MB harddisk, 1.44 MB Floppy
onboard Localbus graphics (ATI mach32), 1024 x 768
onboard audio, 44kHz, 16-bit (supported by NS 3.2)
onboard IDE and SCSI-2 (NS driver now available !)
Intel Etherexpress Ethernet adapter
2 full-size EISA ports
2 serial ports, 1 parallel port, mouse and keyboard
The recommended list price in Germany for this configuration is 8.900 DM which
is about $5,000 plus VAT.
Here is the address of the NeXT distributor in Holland who sells it:
Interpersonal Computing Group
Rijnzathe 7
3454 PV De Meern
Tel.: +31 3406 21225
Fax: +31 3406 21145
Email: maarten@icgned.nl
Wilfried Beeck
d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
wbeeck@dart.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cbliek@dcc.uchile.cl (Christian Bliek)
Subject: Media Errors and Format
Sender: usenet@dcc.uchile.cl (Network News)
Message-ID: <1993Dec03.194420.18278@dcc.uchile.cl>
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 19:44:20 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion
Hi,
I have a NeXTStation Turbo with a Seagate ST1280 internal (239 MBytes 1.5 years
old) which is giving me MEDIA ERRORS (tries to read each block 9 times and then
gives up). When I boot from CD-rom and format it (with disk -F or /usr/etc/sdform
with 3.0 and/or 3.1) it says it's happy, but after having installed the software,
the problem starts again.
I suspect that it is able to write correctly, but that the data ``fades out'' so
that when read the error checks find inconsistencies ...
Any clues out there, in particular:
Is there a better format facility available, that does surface checking?
(the disk -T doesn't seem to work in 3.1)
Is it possible that my disk is fine and that this is the result of problems in my
power supply or controller?
Thanks for your help,
Christian Bliek. (cbliek@dcc.uchile.cl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: buster@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Paul Buster)
Subject: my disk has a front porch ??
Message-ID: <buster.754949164@rintintin.Colorado.EDU>
Sender: usenet@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU (Net News Administrator)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 20:06:04 GMT
we've had two systems receive new disk drives because
they started panic'ing with errors about the "front
porch"
1) what's the front porch ?
2) is it really a dead disk or another problem ?
we now have a third machine with the same problems.
this time it's not logging errors to /usr/adm/messages
but the panic window has the "front porch" error.
thanks
-paul
buster@mongrel.Colorado.EDU (NeXTmail, sure)
From: traupman-jonathan@cs.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Q: why is DPT 2012 floppy unsupported
Date: 3 Dec 1993 17:22:52 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Message-ID: <2doe7sINNaj8@PYTHON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU>
References: <1993Dec2.171346.20699@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In article <1993Dec2.171346.20699@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie) writes:
>We're having major problems connecting an external CD-ROM to our DPT 2012
>SCSI controller. In the process, we discovered that the floppy drive is
>connected to the DPT card, even though the Hardware compat. guide and
>NeXTANSWERS both say floppy controllers on SCSI cards are unsupported.
>While we hunt down and interrogate the guy who built us this machine, does
>anyone know why why the floppy is unsupported and more importantly, what
>are the consequences of using it?
>
I don't know why it's not supported, but I've also been using the floppy
controller on my BusLogic 747S EISA SCSI card for a while now. It actually
seems *more* realiable than the flaky "standard" controller I had before.
Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: Re: PENTIUM + AMBRA = NS 3.2?
References: <CHFAp0.GLF@unix.portal.com>
Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 23:03:46 GMT
Message-ID: <CHFK2B.MM0@percy.rain.com>
In article <CHFAp0.GLF@unix.portal.com> wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly
William Wright) writes:
> Has any tried to install NS 3.2 on an Ambra Pentium box?
>
> Brad Wright
> wwright@premisys.com
> wwright@shell.portal.com
I tried 3.1 on it and it did not work!!! During the boot process, it hung
on reseting the floppy
-steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: clloyd@gleap (Charles C. Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Intel GX/Pro, where can I get it?
Message-ID: <1993Dec3.213550.1232@gleap.sccsi.com>
Sender: clloyd@gleap.sccsi.com
Organization: GiantLeap Software
References: <1993Dec3.185718.616@dart.de>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 21:35:50 GMT
Wilfried Beeck writes
>The Intel Professional/GX Workstation is designed and manufactured by Intel.
>
>
>Here is a typical configuration:
>
>DX 2/66 CPU, 32 MB RAM, 450 MB harddisk, 1.44 MB Floppy
>onboard Localbus graphics (ATI mach32), 1024 x 768
>onboard audio, 44kHz, 16-bit (supported by NS 3.2)
>onboard IDE and SCSI-2 (NS driver now available !)
>Intel Etherexpress Ethernet adapter
>2 full-size EISA ports
>2 serial ports, 1 parallel port, mouse and keyboard
>
The brochure I have on this (from Intel) claims resolution 1280 x 1024 (x 256
color) non-interlaced.
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GiantLeap Software
(713) 292-2442 or 363-0887 (Hou) (713) 363-0936 (fax)
From: theriaul@yendi.mdd.comm.mot.com (Roger Theriault)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.multimedia,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: MIME format
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.multimedia,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 3 Dec 1993 20:52:49 GMT
Organization: Motorola - Wireless Data Group; Richmond, BC
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2do8v1$d1p@mmddvan.mdd.comm.mot.com>
References: <westesCHG8Kt.G2r@netcom.com> <samkhoCHG8tF.1po@netcom.com>
Samuel P Kho (samkho@netcom.com) wrote:
>where can i find a description of the MIME format?
I believe there is stuff on thumper.bellcore.com, in the nsb directory...
Can anyone confirm this? Is there a more official site?
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From: yono@donald.cc.utexas.edu (Suryono Adisoemarta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Deskjet 500C and djf_for_3.0
Date: 3 Dec 1993 16:02:38 -0600
Organization: The University of Texas - Austin
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2dod1u$eb3@donald.cc.utexas.edu>
Hi, we just got a HP Deskjet 500C, and I've install
the djf_for_3.0 driver.
It works with black ink, but won't print in color.
Everytime I try to print in color, the printer always
blinks and ask for the black catridge.
Help, why I won't print in color ?
Thanks
Yono
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From: rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene Kulschewski)
Subject: Partitions...
Message-ID: <CHGMro.1DG@rkt.in-berlin.de>
Organization: Home in Berlin
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 12:59:47 GMT
Hi *,
how can I manage it to access/initialize a former DOS Partition for use
with NSI 3.1 ??
The situation is:
1. Partition DOS - should stay.
2. Partition DOS - should move to NeXTSTEP as spool area.
3. Partition NeXTSTEP.
Thanx for your help
Rene
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kwang@lore.acs.calpoly.edu (Kevin John Wang)
Subject: Re: 040 cube serial port data rate
Message-ID: <1993Dec04.035319.150513@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
References: <bkr.754383017@drdhh>
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 03:53:19 GMT
In article <bkr.754383017@drdhh> bkr@drdhh.hanse.de (Bjoern Kriews)
writes:
> n9240566@fozzie.cc.wwu.edu (Leif E. Harrison) writes:
> > Does an 040 cube support data rates of 14.4K and up?
>
> I have run a 14.4k modem at 38400 for 1 1/2 years without
> any problems under 2.1.
>
> With 3.1 I experienced 'unexpected kernel page faults'
> when using ppp (at remote hangups) - I don't know it it's
> a ppp (Cuperman 0.3) problem, but the message looks like a
> kernel problem. Standard usage (Dialup, Dialout, UUCP) is
> no problem.
I don't know about 3.1, but under 3.0, I've run on black hardware at 38.4
using Louis Mak...'s SLIP implementation. worked just fine...
- Kevin
From: kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel GX/Pro, where can I get it?
Date: 4 Dec 1993 05:58:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <2dp8u0$hot@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <1993Dec3.213550.1232@gleap.sccsi.com>
Charles C. Lloyd (clloyd@gleap) wrote:
: Wilfried Beeck writes
: >The Intel Professional/GX Workstation is designed and manufactured by Intel.
: >
: >
: >Here is a typical configuration:
: >
: >DX 2/66 CPU, 32 MB RAM, 450 MB harddisk, 1.44 MB Floppy
: >onboard Localbus graphics (ATI mach32), 1024 x 768
: >onboard audio, 44kHz, 16-bit (supported by NS 3.2)
: >onboard IDE and SCSI-2 (NS driver now available !)
: >Intel Etherexpress Ethernet adapter
: >2 full-size EISA ports
: >2 serial ports, 1 parallel port, mouse and keyboard
: >
: The brochure I have on this (from Intel) claims resolution 1280 x 1024 (x 256
: color) non-interlaced.
Right. That "x 256" means 8-bit color, which NS doesn't support. Resolution
generally is a function of the amount of VRAM. With the latest drivers,
though, you can get 1120x832x16-bit color on the GX Pro under NS.
I wonder.... 8-bits means that 256 level gray at 1280x1024 should be
possible. Anyone know if there's a driver to do that?
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: IBM Corsair attachment to NeXT (black)
Message-ID: <1993Dec3.171049.12547@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 17:10:49 GMT
Hi,
Here is the mode select page descriptor to make the IBM 662 3,5 work.
Page 0 = 00 0A 40 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
There is no need to reformat if you use the save page option of mode
select.
If you want to boot from the corsair the option pin must be grounded, this
will prevent the drive to initiate sync negotiation.
--Fabien
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From: pkron@corona.com (Peter Kron)
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 06:19:12 PST
Message-ID: <1993Dec04.141912.455@corona.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: WHY S3-805 WITH 2Mb CAN'T SUPPORT 1024x768 COLOR?
References: <9312021149.AA23973@di.uminho.pt>
From: jgr@di.uminho.pt (Jorge Gustavo Rocha)
> CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY S3-805 WITH 2Mb, CAN'T SUPPORT
> 1024x768 COLOR?
My S3-805 1Mb only runs at 800 X 600 at 60hz, although I can run
Windows at 1024 X 768 at 72hz. My understanding (based on a little
dangererous net-knowledge) is that this limitation derives from an
inability to drive the RAMDAC above a certain rate. Since Windows uses
only 1 byte per pixel vs. 2 for NEXTSTEP, it can get higher resolution
at higher frequency while still driving the RAMDAC at a lower rate.
1024 X 768 X 72 < 800 X 600 X 2 X 60 = 57.6Mb/sec
Someone posted that overdriving the RAMDAC can physically fry the
chip, so NeXT drivers take a conservative approach.
So even though you have enough memory for the frame buffer, you may
not be able to access it fast enough to drive the display.
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From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Subject: 2nd internal drive in next slab
Message-ID: <1993Dec4.090119.20233@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: su
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 09:01:19 GMT
In the recent FAQ it was stated:
NeXTstation systems have room for two 1/2-height 3.5" devices, with a
floppy slot at the side.
It is easy to add yet another third height (1" high) hard drive. Just
glue a piece of sheet metal to the underside of the cover (ie, the top of
the slab cover). I used a drive mount that was made for a Mac and bent it
a bit. Screw the drive to the sheet metal. Power and SCSI cables for
dual internal drives are easily available. There isn't room for an
additional half height device, but a third height (one inch) drive fits
easily.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
From: root@erix.coudert.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: mouse
Date: 04 Dec 1993 20:38:41 GMT
Organization: erix remote
Message-ID: <ROOT.93Dec4213841@erix.coudert.com>
References: <1993Dec2.193306.21724@iitmax.iit.edu>
In-reply-to: pat@biocat1.iit.edu's message of Thu, 2 Dec 93 19:33:06 GMT
You wrote:
> my next mouse is behaving flaky...
Can you copy me on any helpful replies you get to this?
--
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From: harnton@world.std.com (James D Harrington)
Subject: Re: 2nd internal drive in next slab
Message-ID: <CHJ88t.7AJ@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <1993Dec4.090119.20233@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Distribution: su
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 22:38:53 GMT
takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken) writes:
>It is easy to add yet another third height (1" high) hard drive. Just
>glue a piece of sheet metal to the underside of the cover (ie, the top of
>the slab cover). I used a drive mount that was made for a Mac and bent it
>a bit. Screw the drive to the sheet metal. Power and SCSI cables for
>dual internal drives are easily available. There isn't room for an
>additional half height device, but a third height (one inch) drive fits
>easily.
>-- Todd Takken
> takken@leland.stanford.edu
I was poking around in my slab the other day, and I can't imagine where a
*second* drive would go or how it would be attached. Anyone know the
answer to this? Thanks,
JH
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From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Subject: Re: 2nd intermal drive in next slab
Message-ID: <1993Dec4.234457.7223@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: su
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 23:44:57 GMT
Erik Mugele <erik@csn.org> writes:
> I posted a question to this group awhile back asking if
> this was possible and I got an overwhelmingly negative
> response. The consensus was that the power supply would
> not be able to handle two drives. Are you running two hard
> drives and a floppy off of the internal power?
Yes. I am running the NeXT floppy drive, a Conner 1.3 GB half height hard
drive (too much for one of my external power supplies by itself) and a
Maxtor 1" 200 BM hard drive, all internally on the origonal, NeXT built-in
power supply. I have one of the oldest monochrome NeXT slabs, if that
makes any difference. It all works fine. No smoke or flames as of yet.
harnton@world.std.com (James D Harrington) writes:
> I was poking around in my slab the other day, and I can't
> imagine where a *second* drive would go or how it would be
> attached. Anyone know the answer to this? Thanks,
As I said in my previous posting, you can attach another 1" internal drive
to the underside of the lid of the NeXT slab, centered side to side and
near the rear of the machine. I used a hard drive mounting bracket (piece
of sheet metal which bends down around the sides of the hard drive and has
holes so screws can attach the side of the drive to the sheet metal) from
a Mac, and used silicone glue to attach the bracket to the underside
(inside) of the lid of the NeXT slab. It fits fine.
-- Todd Takken
takken@leland.stanford.edu
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From: rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene Kulschewski)
Subject: Re: Apple CD150 Work?
Message-ID: <CHH1pD.1Jw@rkt.in-berlin.de>
Organization: Home in Berlin
References: <1993Dec3.043050.26367@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 18:22:25 GMT
Jonathan Hendry (tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu) wrote:
: How well does the Apple CD150 work with a NeXT? Anyone using one?
I am using an CD 150 on a "white" NeXT without problems.
The only (minor) bad thing is that it cant play audio-cd's on a PC ...
Regards
Rene
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Apple CD150 Work?
Message-ID: <CHJ6BM.ru@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <1993Dec3.043050.26367@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
Distribution: all
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 21:57:22 GMT
In article <1993Dec3.043050.26367@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) writes:
> How well does the Apple CD150 work with a NeXT? Anyone using one?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jon
>
> --
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> tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu For Your "Not-So-Mission-Critcal" Apps
Yes, it's working fine due to some upcoming time-out-problems.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
From: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de (Volker Safran)
Subject: Re: Need scsitools output for Quantum PD1050iS with 1K blocks
Message-ID: <1993Dec4.130230.1239@abulafia.in-berlin.de>
Sender: volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de
Organization: Volker Safran, Interprint, Berlin, Germany
References: <2dmpq9$27r@server.cs.vt.edu>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 13:02:30 GMT
In article <2dmpq9$27r@server.cs.vt.edu> alanlb@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Alan
L. Batongbacal) writes:
> If you have a Quantum PD1050iS 1.05GB drive formatted to 1024-byte
> blocks, I'd really appreciate it if you would send me the output from
> the 'sense' program, so that I could low-level format my drive
> to 1K-blocks too.
>
> scsitools is on sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/2.0-release/source.
> The relevant commands would be like the following:
>
> straker:1# ./inquire
> -t 1 -l 0 "QUANTUM /PD1050iS /3072/" typ=0 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=2
> -t 4 -l 0 "SONY /CD-ROM CDU-541 /2.6a/" typ=5 dev=0 ans=2 fmt=1
removable
> straker:2#
> straker:5# ./sense -t 1 -l 0 -p 63 >1050.sense
>
> You could then e-mail 1050.sense.
>
> Thanks!
>
I have the same interest for the DEC3105S. Otherwise it would be very
interesting, if someone can tell me the meaning of the -mbdf entries in
the drive table. For my Fujitsu 2624F (with 1024) it is:
# Parameter List Block Descriptor Format
#mbdf offs val msk # cur msk def sav
-mbdf 0000 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
-mbdf 0001 08 08 # 08 08 00 08
-mbdf 0002 26 26 # 26 26 00 26
-mbdf 0003 c2 c2 # c2 c2 00 c2
-mbdf 0004 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
-mbdf 0005 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
-mbdf 0006 04 04 # 04 04 04 04
-mbdf 0007 00 00 # 00 00 00 00
I know, that it is necessary, that there are these 04 values in
-mbdf0006, but the other values (-mbdf0001-0003) seemes to depend on it.
-mbdf0001 and -mbdf0003 seems to be just one half of the original
values, which is understandable with the double sectorsize, but what the
hell is -mbdf0002?
There are drives outside, where only -mbdf0006 is specified in this
block and then it seems to be easy just to set it from 02 to 04 here.
(the Seagate 1480 f.e.)
Can someone please explain this.
CIAO Volker
PS: this article is crossposted to comp.periphs.scsi.
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From: jliu@cco.caltech.edu (Jiangqiang Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Please help! My NeXTturbo died!
Date: 5 Dec 1993 20:02:41 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Message-ID: <2dtep1$cnc@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Summary: Need help for a dead NeXT station turbo
Keywords: NeXT station turbo
I left my NeXT on before I went to sleep. After I came back to work the second
day, it is dead!
I try to reboot it. No, I can't. The computer doesn't response at all whatever
I do, push POWER key, disconnector power cord and push power key again.
What could be the problem, monitor or the slab?
Need your help if you have similar experience.
Thanks!
Jianqiang Liu
jliu@touch.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: steve@eps.rain.com (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: Trouble installing 3.2 for Intel
Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Organization: The Irwin Hoson Company
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 02:15:11 GMT
Message-ID: <steve.40.00124150@eps.rain.com>
I am triing to install from scratch 3.2 on my Gateway 2000 Pentium machine and
after the install process goes through loading the default SCSI Drivers, (btw
I am using the 1542cf) I say continue and I get the following error message
scrolling down my screen..
"Thread: waitfor Interrupt: returns-735"
any ideas what may be causing this..
thanks
steve.
steve@eps.rain.com
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NST and HP IIcx scanner?
Date: 5 Dec 1993 23:28:19 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2dtqqj$4dh@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Can someone who has hooked these 2 machines together
and worked with them tell me what happened? What scanning
sw were you using?
Thanks
Robert de Lucca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon)
Subject: HELP! Problems w/ a stand-alone cube who thinks it is on a Net
Message-ID: <1993Dec6.002802.26533@seas.smu.edu>
Sender: news@seas.smu.edu (USENET News System)
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 00:28:02 GMT
Help! I recently installed a network program Ushare so I could hook my
Powerbook to my NeXTcube over 10baseT. Well, it did not work out as planned,
and I am trying to get things back to normal. My cube is usuall a stand alone
system, however, I seemed to have screwed things up when I installed the
network software. When I start the machine up by typing "bsd sdmach" the
boot process takes off as normal, informs me that IP is enabled, but the net
is down and then goes through it normal processes. Finally, I get an error
message stating:
yp: server not responding for domain "mydomain"; still trying
This messsage will repeat several dozen times, occassionally giving me a:
Dec 4 20:13:02 goober syslog: Cannot send broadcast packet: network is down
It then goes back to the yp: server not responding message, ad infinitum. I
need to figure out a way to boot this machine as a stand alone once again. I
tried to boot 2.0 OS off optical, to no avail (it froze at some random point)
I dont have 3.0 on OD, nor do I own a CDROM. Since I have my final exam in
Criminal Law & Procedure on Thrusday, I need to get this thing working FAST!
What should I do? BTW I am using an 040/25 cube, w/ 3.0 os
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: Intel GX/Pro, where can I get it?
Message-ID: <1993Dec5.204001.227@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <2dp8u0$hot@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 20:40:01 GMT
In article <2dp8u0$hot@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt D.
Bollacker) writes:
> Charles C. Lloyd (clloyd@gleap) wrote:
>
> : The brochure I have on this (from Intel) claims resolution 1280 x 1024 (x
> : 256 color) non-interlaced.
>
> Right. That "x 256" means 8-bit color, which NS doesn't support. Resolution
> generally is a function of the amount of VRAM. With the latest drivers,
> though, you can get 1120x832x16-bit color on the GX Pro under NS.
>
> I wonder.... 8-bits means that 256 level gray at 1280x1024 should be
> possible. Anyone know if there's a driver to do that?
>
The Intel Professional/GX Workstation is available with two different RAM-DACs
(digital to analog converters):
The hi-resolution RAM-DAC supports 1280 x 1024 x 8 bit or 1120 x 832 x 16 bit.
Note that the revision 6 of the mach32 chipset is required for these modes.
The standard system with 2MB RAM supports 1024 x 768 x 16 bit.
NEXTSTEP 3.2 supports all these modes. The 8 bit resolution means of course 256
levels of grey (instead of 256 variations of pink or purple that some other OS
allow you to choose from)
Wilfried Beeck
d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
From: murao@kobe-u.ac.jp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel GX/Pro, where can I get it?
Message-ID: <murao.93Dec614499@blueslab>
Date: 6 Dec 93 19:49:09 GMT
References: <1993Dec3.213550.1232@gleap.sccsi.com> <2dp8u0$hot@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
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> Right. That "x 256" means 8-bit color, which NS doesn't support. Resolution
> generally is a function of the amount of VRAM. With the latest drivers,
> though, you can get 1120x832x16-bit color on the GX Pro under NS.
>
> I wonder.... 8-bits means that 256 level gray at 1280x1024 should be
> possible. Anyone know if there's a driver to do that?
Latest driver for ATI GUP enable you to choose 1280x1024x8-bits gray.
But, it can't correctly work on Canon N1300(It's OEM machine of
Intel/GX Pro and selled in Japan as white NeXTstation). I wonder it
is caused by older revision of ATI chip.
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From: bcongdon@lotatg.lotus.com (Bob Congdon)
Subject: Re: Apple CD150 Work?
Message-ID: <CHKuBG.8M1@lotus.com>
Sender: news@lotus.com
Organization: Lotus Development
References: <1993Dec3.043050.26367@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 19:33:12 GMT
In article <1993Dec3.043050.26367@netnews.noc.drexel.edu>
tjhendry@mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry) writes:
> How well does the Apple CD150 work with a NeXT? Anyone using one?
It works just fine since it has the same Sony internals as the NeXT CD drive.
The Apple CD 300 works just fine with NeXT as well.
--bob
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Adaptek 1542C + CD-ROM == Hell
Message-ID: <1993Dec6.053527.4306@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 05:35:27 GMT
Actually, it is not that bad. I have had success attaching both internal
CD-ROM's to an Adaptek 1542C controller, from the data standpoint. But, I
have not had any success with Audio CD's.
Thus if anyone has an Adaptek 1542C and a CD-ROM attached that will play
audio CD's, please send me a message regarding your setup. I would love
to hear the type ofCD-ROM you have.
Thanks
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Please help! My NeXTturbo died!
Message-ID: <1993Dec6.121541.6243@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <2dtep1$cnc@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 12:15:41 GMT
In article <2dtep1$cnc@gap.cco.caltech.edu> jliu@cco.caltech.edu
(Jiangqiang Liu) writes:
> I left my NeXT on before I went to sleep. After I came back to work the
second
> day, it is dead!
> I try to reboot it. No, I can't. The computer doesn't response at all
whatever
> I do, push POWER key, disconnector power cord and push power key again.
>
> What could be the problem, monitor or the slab?
>
> Need your help if you have similar experience.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jianqiang Liu
> jliu@touch.caltech.edu
Check for the lithium battery. Should read not less than 3.0 volts.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi)
Subject: NeXT 400dpi Printer PROBLEM! Black lines on printouts...
Organization: UCLA CS Department, Los Angeles, CA
Message-ID: <1993Dec06.164605.26796@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 93 16:46:05 GMT
Hi,
I AM GETTING SMUDGES AND A THIN BLACK LINE ON EVERY PAGE THAT I PRINT WITH MY
NeXT 400dpi Laser Printer.
A while back, I noticed that I was getting ghost images of what I was printing
elsewhere on the page. I cleaned the printer and the slot on the toner
cartridge according to NeXT's instructions int he User's Manual. The problem
went away.
A few days ago, I noticed the same problem again. IN ADDITION, I AM GETTING
A THIN, HORIZONTAL BLACK LINE OF TONER ABOUT 4 INCHES FROM THE TOP OF THE PAGE.
There are light smudges here and there, mostly vertical.
I was advised to change the felt cleaning pad (my toner is still perfectly
black because I haven't used my printer that often -- I've had the same toner
for a little over 2 years). I did. No change. I was also advised to try
to print 1 page w/out the cleaning pad to see if the problem would go away.
It didn't, though the black line and smudges were much lighter.
Has anyone had a similar problem? Is it a major problem in need of service
or is there some cleaning procedure that I overlooked? Could it be a dirty
roller inside the toner? (someone told me that there's a drum inside the toner
as well as a drum inside the printer).
E-mail would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
- Eskandar
--
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Listen to their hollowed screams
The dead have taken my soul
Temptation's lost all control" -- Slayer (Dead Skin Mask)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Reformatting DEC DSP-series drives to 1024-byte blocks
Date: 6 Dec 1993 16:58:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2dvobe$isj@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
A couple of weeks ago, I asked for info about reformatting my DEC
DSP3105S drive to 1024-byte blocks. I received several responses, most
asking me to pass on any info I received. I also heard from several folks
who expressed doubt that it could be done having heard of someone whose
attempts had failed.
Monty Solomon used his apparently extensive net archives to ferret out
some postings by DEC support personnel. I sent one of them email about my
desire to reformat my DEC drive and received the following (reprinted with
his permission):
It's so simple, actually. The reason that you don't find instructions
on changing the block size with FORMAT UNIT is that it is unnecessary.
In order to change the block size on our drives, all you have to do is
do a MODE SELECT with the block size in the block descriptor. The
easiest way to avoid gotchas is to set the max block field to 0, and the
block size to 1024. (This way you get 1/2 the number of LBNs at twice the
normal size.) You need only send 12 bytes (just the preamble and block
descriptor) in the MODE SELECT command unless you want to send other
pages.
So this sounds very encouraging, but I need help translating what it
means :-) Using scsitools (or other available utilities), how would one
use the above procedure to reformat a DEC drive? Thanks for your help.
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From: gerti@tms-gmbh.de (Gerd Knops)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI 1280x1024
Date: 6 Dec 1993 11:56:50 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
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Kurt D. Bollacker writes:
> I wonder.... 8-bits means that 256 level gray at 1280x1024 should
> be possible. Anyone know if there's a driver to do that?
Due to a sudden monitor death of my color monitor I connected my
older EIZO 6500 to my LocalBus ATI, and switched to 1280x1024, 256
level gray (wich is supported by the drivers that come with 3.1 and
3.2, and that should support the GX, too) and it works GREAT! The
only minor flaw is, that in the Dock Preferences the space is
limited, so the huge dock won't fit ;-))
Gerd
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@gomidas.mi.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: TCP/IP over VME backplane ?
Date: 6 Dec 1993 17:53:53 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2dvrjh$766@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Is there any support or driver for having a TCP/IP connection over a VME
backplane?
Roland
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From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Booting from not-the-lowest SCSI address
Date: 5 Dec 1993 04:12:46 GMT
Organization: The University of Manitoba
Message-ID: <2drn3u$d7m@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>
References: <Igz0lHq00iV4QEVBpz@andrew.cmu.edu> <SOWA.93Dec1095545@amdew.llnl.gov>
In comp.sys.next.hardware you write:
>simply to give each device a different address. Anyway, I understand
>what the default is and wish to override it without having to edit fstab
>and get inside my disk enclosure to rejumper my drive whenever I want to
>change the default boot drive. (I have 3.1 on one drive and 3.2 on the
>other.) My question still stands. Is there a way to abbreviate
> "sd(2,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd2a"
>to 12 characters? It's not really urgent since I *can* change the scsi
>addresses but it would be *ever* so convenient.
I recall having to change fstab.
This was better than taking the drive apart, but i would have preferred
an external scsi-id switch.
Perhaps someone can post a switch one can hack from readily available parts?
I think the NeXT remembers the last boot command that was used, so
that if you "shutdown -r now" it can reuse a command longer than 12 bytes.
Please post if you find a good solution.
--
.. Richard <tilley@cc.umanitoba.ca> NextMail OK.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@abekas.com (Mark Andrews)
Subject: Re: HELP! Problems w/ a stand-alone cube who thinks it is on a Net
Message-ID: <1993Dec6.191224.17934@abekas.com>
Organization: Abekas Video Systems Inc., Redwood City, California.
References: <1993Dec6.002802.26533@seas.smu.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 19:12:24 GMT
dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon) writes:
>Help! I recently installed a network program Ushare so I could hook my
>Powerbook to my NeXTcube over 10baseT. Well, it did not work out as planned,
>and I am trying to get things back to normal. My cube is usuall a stand alone
>system, however, I seemed to have screwed things up when I installed the
>network software. When I start the machine up by typing "bsd sdmach" the
>boot process takes off as normal, informs me that IP is enabled, but the net
>is down and then goes through it normal processes. Finally, I get an error
>message stating:
>
> yp: server not responding for domain "mydomain"; still trying
>
> This messsage will repeat several dozen times, occassionally giving me a:
>
> Dec 4 20:13:02 goober syslog: Cannot send broadcast packet: network is down
>
> It then goes back to the yp: server not responding message, ad infinitum. I
> need to figure out a way to boot this machine as a stand alone once again. I
> tried to boot 2.0 OS off optical, to no avail (it froze at some random point)
> I dont have 3.0 on OD, nor do I own a CDROM. Since I have my final exam in
> Criminal Law & Procedure on Thrusday, I need to get this thing working FAST!
> What should I do? BTW I am using an 040/25 cube, w/ 3.0 os
The problem here is that the NeXT is looking for it's yp server and won't
complete the boot until it's found it. This can be turned off using the NetManager,
but that requires a booted system.
So
1) boot the NeXT in single user mode "bsd -s"
2) edit the file /etc/hostconfig
there should be a line "YPDOMAIN=some_domain_name"
change it to "YPDOMAIN=-NO-"
3) save the file
4) halt the system
5) reboot in multiuser mode "bsd"
This should solve the problem.
Mark.
Mark Andrews
mark@abekas.com
--
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Mark Andrews
mark@abekas.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Subject: Parallel Port on Gatewat 2000 w/ NS/i
Message-ID: <1993Dec6.144849.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
Sender: news@dmi.stevens-tech.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 19:48:49 GMT
I'm running NS/FIP on a Gateway 2000 486 66V and I'm having major problems
getting NS to register the on board parallel port.
In the CMOS setup I checked to see which IO port the Parallel port is on - the
machine reports 0x3BC (I confirmed this with other diag tools in DOS)
However, NS's the SerialPortDriver (latest one downloaded from NeXTanswers)
does not give the option for 0x3BC as a valid address for the on board parallel
port. I tried using "8 bytes at 0x3B8" without success. I also tried typing
0x3BC directly into Configure.app - that also didn't work.
Has anyone gotten a printer to work under NS on a Gateway 2000?
Can anyone out in netland help me with this?
I finally got my PostScript cartridge for my HP IIIP and would really like to
be able to print at home rather than in my school's lab.
Scott Davenport
sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
[Internet Mail Only :( ]
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Parallel Port on Gatewat 2000 w/ NS/i
Date: 6 Dec 1993 20:19:43 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2e044v$74@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1993Dec6.144849.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>
In article <1993Dec6.144849.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>,
<sdavenpo@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> wrote:
>I'm running NS/FIP on a Gateway 2000 486 66V and I'm having major problems
>getting NS to register the on board parallel port.
>
>In the CMOS setup I checked to see which IO port the Parallel port is on - the
>machine reports 0x3BC (I confirmed this with other diag tools in DOS)
>
>However, NS's the SerialPortDriver (latest one downloaded from NeXTanswers)
>does not give the option for 0x3BC as a valid address for the on board parallel
>port. I tried using "8 bytes at 0x3B8" without success. I also tried typing
>0x3BC directly into Configure.app - that also didn't work.
>
>Has anyone gotten a printer to work under NS on a Gateway 2000?
>Can anyone out in netland help me with this?
Yes, mine works. I think you may be confusing things here. The
Parallel Port is not configured by the Serial Port Driver...
Anyway. You need to set the Parallel Port to 0x378 If I'm not mistaken
(my gateways at home). You will have to go into the gateway setup
before booting NS and change it in the CMOS setup as well. I think this there
is a NextAnswer that goes into this in more detail. The Serial port
addresses should then be 0x3f8 and 0x2f8.
I don't know why the Parallel Port is fixed at this address or whether this
was problem was fixed in 3.2.
Good Luck
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Subject: will adaptec 1522 work for nsfip?
Sender: news@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (News Account)
Message-ID: <Dec06.201745.86057@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 20:17:45 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Keywords: 1522 adaptec scsi controller nsfip intel
hi all
i'm trying to put a 486 machine together that will run
NeXTSTEP. i got some quotes that included an adaptec 1522
controller. i did not see this one listed in the compatibility
guide, however, and am wondering if anyone knows if this
will work...
?
any help is greatly appreciated.
kelley wittmeyer
dept of atmospheric science
colorado state university
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec 2742c ?
Message-ID: <CHMoFp.614@cerc.wvu.edu>
From: robinson@cs.wvu.edu (John Robinson)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 19:21:24 GMT
Sender: news@cerc.wvu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Concurrent Engineering Research Center
I have a 486/66 with an Eisa bus Adaptec 2742c SCSI adapter. Is there
any way to get this to work with NSFIP 3.2? I have read that driver
support for this adapter will come in the 1st quarter of '94 but is there
anything I can do now?
Thanks in advance.
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel GX/Pro, where can I get it?
Date: 6 Dec 93 08:38:06
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.93Dec6083806@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
References: <CHGnnM.A08@echelon.hacktic.nl>
In-reply-to: ptuomola@echelon.hacktic.nl's message of Fri, 3 Dec 1993 13:18:43 GMT
I want to know where I can get it, where i can buy one.
^^^^^ ^^^^^
Thanks,
ZiZi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen)
Subject: Help! My dog ate my mouse!
Message-ID: <CHMFFI.1B5@pdh.com>
Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account)
Organization: PDH, Inc.
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 16:06:53 GMT
Well, actually, he ate the little circular black thingie with the
donut hole that holds the mouse ball in. DAMN! I was cleaning it
and put that little doo-dad on the table and while my back was
turned, my dog walked over and gobbled that thingie up.
This is NOT a joke. You have no idea how hard it is using your
mouse when you can't pick it up off of the mouse pad because the
ball will fall out.
So the question is, can I replace the doo-dad? the whole mouse?
Does anyone have either for sale? I need a NeXT non-ADB mouse
(mine is an early ColorStation).
Hey Eric, did you happen to buy up 1000 of those donut-looking
black thingies along with the hex tools at the auction? :-) :-)
Thanks for ANY assistance.
Jon Rosen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jeffblum@flagstaff.Princeton.EDU (Jeffrey Robert Blum)
Subject: Re: NeXT 400dpi Printer PROBLEM! Black lines on printouts...
Message-ID: <1993Dec6.191630.1541@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <1993Dec06.164605.26796@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 19:16:30 GMT
I had a similar problem. Replacing the toner cartridge fixed it. I think
the toner cart. was just low, but it could have been a dirty part as
well...
Good luck!
-jeff
In article <1993Dec06.164605.26796@cs.ucla.edu>,
Eskandar Ensafi <esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>I AM GETTING SMUDGES AND A THIN BLACK LINE ON EVERY PAGE THAT I PRINT WITH MY
>NeXT 400dpi Laser Printer.
>
>A while back, I noticed that I was getting ghost images of what I was printing
>elsewhere on the page. I cleaned the printer and the slot on the toner
>cartridge according to NeXT's instructions int he User's Manual. The problem
>went away.
>
>A few days ago, I noticed the same problem again. IN ADDITION, I AM GETTING
>A THIN, HORIZONTAL BLACK LINE OF TONER ABOUT 4 INCHES FROM THE TOP OF THE PAGE.
>There are light smudges here and there, mostly vertical.
>
>I was advised to change the felt cleaning pad (my toner is still perfectly
>black because I haven't used my printer that often -- I've had the same toner
>for a little over 2 years). I did. No change. I was also advised to try
>to print 1 page w/out the cleaning pad to see if the problem would go away.
>It didn't, though the black line and smudges were much lighter.
>
>Has anyone had a similar problem? Is it a major problem in need of service
>or is there some cleaning procedure that I overlooked? Could it be a dirty
>roller inside the toner? (someone told me that there's a drum inside the toner
>as well as a drum inside the printer).
>
>E-mail would be appreciated.
>Thanks in advance,
>
>- Eskandar
>
>--
>"Dance with the dead in my dreams
> Listen to their hollowed screams
> The dead have taken my soul
> Temptation's lost all control" -- Slayer (Dead Skin Mask)
--
"His eyes were eggs of unstable crystal, vibrating with a frequency whose
name was rain and the sound of trains, suddenly sprouting a humming
forest of hair-fine glass spines." --Neuromancer
From: dgeary@axys84.axysdev.krldwa.mccaw.com (David Geary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Developer's Station wanted
Date: 6 Dec 1993 21:12:39 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <2e0787$llg@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
I'm looking for a NEXTSTEP developer's box for home use.
I currently have a Gateway DX2/50, with 200 MB hard drive, no CD-ROM, 8 M
RAM, 15" monitor. (I cannot live with the 15" monitor anymore!)
As I see it, I have 3 choices:
1. Used NeXT box.
2. New PC running NEXTSTEP.
3. Upgrade my Gateway, and try to get NS to run on it.
Obviously, I'm looking for the cheapest way to get NS running at home. If I
take choices 2 or 3, I may have to wind up purchasing NS user + developer,
which is a whopping $3000 alone. I'd be willing to become a developer if it'd
give me a substantial discount (does it?)
Any information to assist me in my decision would be greatly appreciated.
--
// David Geary Seattle: America's most Attractive City ...
// dgeary@mccaw.com ... to the _Jetstream_
From: mwh@dymaxion.Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Hapner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: AMI Motherboards
Date: 7 Dec 1993 02:04:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <mg7p4jINNo5l@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
Has anyone attempted to install NextStep 3.2 on an AMI 486DX2-66 EISA
VESA motherboard based system? If so, did you encounter any problems?
-- Mark Hapner
Message-ID: <19931206.113149.254273.NETNEWS@CC1.KULEUVEN.AC.BE>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 11:31:48 +0100
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.multimedia,comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: sst@bleuet (S. Stormacq)
From: sst@bleuet.info.fundp.ac.be (S. Stormacq)
Distribution: na
References: <westesCHG8Kt.G2r@netcom.com> <samkhoCHG8tF.1po@netcom.com> <2DO8V1$D1P@MMDDVAN.MDD.COMM.MOT.COM>
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Subject: Re: MIME format
In article <2DO8V1$D1P@MMDDVAN.MDD.COMM.MOT.COM>, theriaul@yendi.mdd.comm.mot.com writes:
>Samuel P Kho (samkho@netcom.com) wrote:
>>where can i find a description of the MIME format?
>
>I believe there is stuff on thumper.bellcore.com, in the nsb directory...
>Can anyone confirm this? Is there a more official site?
Yes it's the official directory of N. Borenstein, one of those
who specified MIME
Seb
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
Date: 6 Dec 1993 23:23:17 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2e10fl$9lk@digifix.digifix.com>
The current menagerie:
comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
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Minor editing: Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Reformatting DEC DSP-series drives to 1024-byte blocks
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 01:41:26 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <wh12KKq00iUzIDaX0L@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2dvobe$isj@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 6-Dec-93 Reformatting DEC
DSP-series.. by Art Isbell@cubicsol.com
> So this sounds very encouraging, but I need help translating what it
> means :-) Using scsitools (or other available utilities), how would one
> use the above procedure to reformat a DEC drive? Thanks for your help.
Use scsitools to dump the MODE SENSE of the drive with 512 byte sectors.
Edit the block descriptor (struct mode_sel_bd in
/usr/include/bsd/dev/scsireg.h) from 512 (0x200) to 1024 (0x400); ie,
change the 2 to a 4 in byte 6 of the bdf field (on big-endian machines,
anyway).
Write this back to your drive, and send it a SCSI format command via
/usr/etc/disk or by some other means.
Simple, right?
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison)
Subject: Black external 3.5" drive cases???
Message-ID: <CHnIMM.qx@nosloc.com>
Sender: derek@nosloc.com (Derek Collison)
Organization: Nosloc Software Technologies
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 06:13:34 GMT
I am looking for the above, does anyone know of a place that I may find one?
Thanks in advance,
=derek
--
Derek Collison <---> derek@nosloc.com
Nosloc Software Technologies
From: zmonster@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: Developer's Station wanted
Date: 7 Dec 1993 08:33:54 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2e1f5i$3pi@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <2e0787$llg@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
In article <2e0787$llg@ftp-p.mccaw.com> dgeary@axys84.axysdev.krldwa.mccaw.com (David Geary) writes:
> As I see it, I have 3 choices:
> 1. Used NeXT box.
> 2. New PC running NEXTSTEP.
> 3. Upgrade my Gateway, and try to get NS to run on it.
> Obviously, I'm looking for the cheapest way to get NS running at home. If I
>take choices 2 or 3, I may have to wind up purchasing NS user + developer,
>which is a whopping $3000 alone. I'd be willing to become a developer if it'd
>give me a substantial discount (does it?)
First, PC connection sells NEXTSTEP User for roughly $500, and dev tools
for roughly $1500 ($500+$1500 = $2000), last time I checked (which was quite
a while ago). $3000 is even more than the list price!
Aside from this, if you register for the NEXTSTEP Developer Conference
(Jan 24-26) in Washington DC, you get a free copy of NEXTSTEP 3.2 user and
developer. The price of the conference/software package is $1590 (a
pretty good savings on the software). The conference bundle also includes
Borland's InterBase SQL database server, and the DBKit adapter for Interbase.
The brouchure I have says you must be present at the conference to receive
the bundle.
To register call DCI at 1-800-767-2336, or 508-470-3880 (international)
Eric
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help! My dog ate my mouse!
Date: 7 Dec 1993 00:45:03 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <2e0jmf$in0@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU>
References: <CHMFFI.1B5@pdh.com>
In article <CHMFFI.1B5@pdh.com>, Jon F. Rosen <jfr@aspen.pdh.com> wrote:
>Well, actually, he ate the little circular black thingie with the
>donut hole that holds the mouse ball in. DAMN! I was cleaning it
>and put that little doo-dad on the table and while my back was
>turned, my dog walked over and gobbled that thingie up.
Keep him in a confined area for a day or so and ...er ...sift
everything that comes out?
;)
Lusty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: peter@pknms.toppoint.de (Peter Kretzschmar)
Subject: Driver for NE2000 and nsfip
Message-ID: <PZUJBJME@pknms.toppoint.de>
Keywords: NE2000
Organization: private
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 08:48:39 GMT
The subject says it. I'm looking for a driver for NeXTStep for Intel
Processors 3.2 and NE2000 Cards.
Does anybody have a solution ?
--
Peter Kretzschmar Grossflecken 54
peter@pknms.toppoint.de 24534 Neumuenster
GERMANY
From: jon@starburst.umd.edu (Jonathan Kruger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Does anyone sell hardware with NS pre-installed?
Date: 7 Dec 1993 14:44:29 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <2e24sd$jst@gamera.umd.edu>
I need another 486 system to run NS and I don't have time to deal with
ordering and assembling the whole mess. Can anyone point me to a US
vendor who sells cool hardware with NS pre-installed that can accept
a university purchase order? Thanks.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jonathan Kruger - jon@cbl.umd.edu - Computer and Network Systems Coordinator
UMCEES/CBL, PO Box 38, Solomons, MD 20688 Phone: 410-326-7306 Fax: 410-326-7341
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Does anyone sell hardware with NS pre-installed?
Message-ID: <1993Dec7.173144.17999@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
References: <2e24sd$jst@gamera.umd.edu>
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 17:31:44 GMT
Jonathan Kruger writes
> I need another 486 system to run NS and I don't have time to deal
> with ordering and assembling the whole mess. Can anyone point
> me to a US vendor who sells cool hardware with NS pre-installed
> that can accept a university purchase order? Thanks.
Try Workstation 2000 (619-723-4827, tfinn@gun.com). They sell
systems based on the Intel GX/Pro with NS pre-installed (they'll even
pre-install your edu-priced NS).
Standard disclaimers. I know nothing about them except what's on the
brochure they sent me in the mail.
--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@leland.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT 400dpi Printer PROBLEM! Black lines on printouts...
Date: 7 Dec 1993 20:08:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2e2nr4$63b@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <1993Dec06.164605.26796@cs.ucla.edu>
In article <1993Dec06.164605.26796@cs.ucla.edu> esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu
(Eskandar Ensafi) writes:
> I AM GETTING SMUDGES AND A THIN BLACK LINE ON EVERY PAGE THAT I PRINT
WITH MY
> NeXT 400dpi Laser Printer
> IN ADDITION, I AM GETTING
> A THIN, HORIZONTAL BLACK LINE OF TONER ABOUT 4 INCHES FROM THE TOP OF
THE PAGE.
> There are light smudges here and there, mostly vertical.
>
> I was advised to change the felt cleaning pad (my toner is still
perfectly
> black because I haven't used my printer that often -- I've had the same
toner
> for a little over 2 years).
Yeah, I had the same problems a few months ago on my original toner
cartridge which was still dark and showing no signs of running low on
toner. I cleaned everything including the drum in the cartridge which
would solve the problem for a few pages, but then the problem would start
again.
A local toner cartridge remanufacturer told me that toner cartridges
can fail before they run out of toner due to age, mostly. Mine was 3
years old. The toner drum wiper gets less flexible with age and
eventually no longer completely wipes the excess toner off the drum
causing the problems you're experiencing.
Poorly remanufactured cartridges can fail prematurely because crucial
elements in the cartridge weren't replaced during remanufacture as a
profit-increasing strategy for sleazy remanufacturers.
I replaced my toner cartridge with one supplied by my local
remanufacturer who seems to be very reputable (he's a one-person operation
so he has a personal stake in the quality of his product) and I've had no
problems since.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: mgrmja@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J. Allard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Reformatting DEC DSP-series drives to 1024-byte blocks
Date: 7 Dec 1993 19:44:08 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2e2me8$jvp@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <wh12KKq00iUzIDaX0L@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <wh12KKq00iUzIDaX0L@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 6-Dec-93 Reformatting DEC
> DSP-series.. by Art Isbell@cubicsol.com
> > So this sounds very encouraging, but I need help translating what it
> > means :-) Using scsitools (or other available utilities), how would one
> > use the above procedure to reformat a DEC drive? Thanks for your help.
>
> Use scsitools to dump the MODE SENSE of the drive with 512 byte sectors.
> Edit the block descriptor (struct mode_sel_bd in
> /usr/include/bsd/dev/scsireg.h) from 512 (0x200) to 1024 (0x400); ie,
> change the 2 to a 4 in byte 6 of the bdf field (on big-endian machines,
> anyway).
>
> Write this back to your drive, and send it a SCSI format command via
> /usr/etc/disk or by some other means.
>
> Simple, right?
>
About a month ago, I needed to reformat a 1024-byte-per-block Fujitsu drive
to 512-bytes-per-block for use in a SPARC. So, I took the liberty of
hacking apart the NeXT-supplied SCSI example program (sg_example.c,
somewhere deep in the /NextDeveloper tree) to provide the required
functionality. I then added the ability to format to 1024 as well.
This program has been used to successfully reformat Fujitsu and Seagate hard
drives to 512, and Fujitsus to 1024. (I haven't tried any other
combinations.)
Note that the first argument to the program is the SCSI target of the drive
(i.e. the SCSI ID [0..7]) and the second argument is the blocksize (512 and
1024 are considered valid).
I didn't spend too much time making it look prettier than the NeXT example -
it works, that's all I needed. :-)
The program - format_size.c (cc -o format_size format_size.c):
---------------------------------------------------------------
/*
* Generic SCSI driver example.
*
* History
* -------
* 27-Nov-93 Mike Allard (michael.allard@rose-hulman.edu)
* Reworked to provide reformatting with different blocksize.
* 02-Feb-93 Erik Kay at NeXT
* i386 support
* 10-Apr-89 Doug Mitchell
* Write after read to avoid trashing system disk.
* 20-Mar-89 Doug Mitchell at NeXT
* Created.
*
* Procedure:
* open sg0;
* set (target,lun) to (argv[1],0);
* execute Request Sense command;
* execute Mode Select command to set blocksize to argv[2];
* execute Format Unit command;
*
* You may freely copy, distribute and reuse the code in this example.
* NeXT disclaims any warranty of any kind, expressed or implied, as to
* its fitness for any particular use.
*/
#include <errno.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <bsd/dev/scsireg.h>
#define SENSE_SIZE 0x40 /* sense buffer size */
char sbuf[SENSE_SIZE]; /* sense buffer */
int fd; /* file descriptor */
int target;
u_int blocksize;
int lun=0;
int lba=0; /* start block for rd/wr */
char *dev_name="/dev/sg0";
main(int argc, char **argv) {
struct scsi_adr sa;
int rtn;
int i;
if (argc != 3)
{
printf("usage: %s <target#> <blocksize>\n", argv[0]);
printf(" blocksize should be 512 or 1024\n");
exit(1);
}
target = atoi(argv[1]);
blocksize = (u_int)atoi(argv[2]);
/* Make sure the blocksize is sane. */
if (blocksize != 512 && blocksize != 1024)
{
printf(" blocksize should be 512 or 1024\n");
exit(1);
}
/* open /dev/sg0 */
if ((fd = open (dev_name, O_RDWR)) < 0) {
printf("\nCould not open %s - fd = %XH\n",dev_name,fd);
printf("errno = %d\n",errno);
perror("open");
exit(1);
}
/* set (target,lun) */
sa.sa_target = target;
sa.sa_lun = lun;
if (ioctl(fd,SGIOCSTL,&sa) < 0) {
printf("Error setting target %d lun %d\n",target,lun);
printf("errno = %d\n",errno);
perror("ioctl(SGIOCSTL)");
exit(1);
}
if(gs_request_sense()) /* clear unit attention */
exit(1);
if(gs_mode_select(blocksize)) /* select block size */
exit(1);
if(gs_format()) /* format disk */
exit(1);
/* close /dev/sg0 */
if ((rtn = close(fd)) < 0) {
printf("\nCould not close %s - fd = %XH\n",dev_name,fd);
printf("\nerrno = %d\n",errno);
perror("close");
exit(1);
}
else
exit(0);
} /* main() */
/*
* standard I/O routines
*/
gs_request_sense() {
struct scsi_req sr;
struct cdb_6 *cdbp = &sr.sr_cdb.cdb_c6;
cdb_clr(cdbp);
cdbp->c6_opcode = C6OP_REQSENSE;
cdbp->c6_lun = lun;
cdbp->c6_len = SENSE_SIZE;
sr.sr_dma_dir = SR_DMA_RD;
sr.sr_addr = sbuf;
sr.sr_dma_max = SENSE_SIZE;
sr.sr_ioto = 10;
return(do_ioc(&sr));
} /* gs_request_sense() */
gs_mode_select(u_int blocksize) {
/* Mode Select for selecting block size for reformatting. */
struct scsi_req sr;
struct cdb_6 *cdbp = &sr.sr_cdb.cdb_c6;
struct mode_sel_data msd;
int i;
cdb_clr(cdbp);
cdbp->c6_opcode = C6OP_MODESELECT;
cdbp->c6_lun = 0;
cdbp->c6_lba = 0;
cdbp->c6_len = 12;
for (i=0; i<sizeof msd; i++) ((char *)&msd)[i] = 0;
msd.msd_header.msh_bd_length = 8;
msd.msd_blockdescript.msbd_blocklength = blocksize;
sr.sr_dma_dir = SR_DMA_WR;
sr.sr_addr = (char *)&msd;
sr.sr_dma_max = 100;
sr.sr_ioto = 10;
return(do_ioc(&sr));
} /* gs_mode_select() */
gs_format() {
/* Perform that actual FORMAT UNIT command. */
struct scsi_req sr;
struct cdb_6 *cdbp = &sr.sr_cdb.cdb_c6;
cdb_clr(cdbp);
cdbp->c6_opcode = C6OP_FORMAT;
cdbp->c6_lun = 0;
cdbp->c6_lba = 0;
cdbp->c6_len = 0;
sr.sr_dma_dir = SR_DMA_WR;
sr.sr_addr = (char *)0;
sr.sr_dma_max = 0;
sr.sr_ioto = 7200; /* Yes, that's a two hour delay! */
return(do_ioc(&sr));
} /* gs_format() */
cdb_clr(cdbp)
union cdb *cdbp;
{
int i;
char *p;
p = (char *)cdbp;
for(i=0; i<sizeof(union cdb); i++)
*p++ = 0;
}
do_ioc(sr)
struct scsi_req *sr;
{
if (ioctl(fd,SGIOCREQ,sr) < 0) {
printf("..Error executing ioctl\n");
printf("errno = %d\n",errno);
perror("ioctl(SGIOCREQ)");
return(1);
}
if(sr->sr_io_status) {
printf("sr_io_status = 0x%X\n",sr->sr_io_status);
if(sr->sr_io_status == SR_IOST_CHKSV) {
printf(" sense key = %02XH sense code = %02XH\n",
sr->sr_esense.er_sensekey,
sr->sr_esense.er_addsensecode);
}
printf("SCSI status = %02XH\n",sr->sr_scsi_status);
return(1);
}
return(0);
} /* do_ioc() */
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Michael J. Allard --- Workstation Manager, Waters Computing Center
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, IN 812-877-8273
E-Mail: <Michael.Allard@rose-hulman.edu> Fax: 812-877-3198
#import <std/disclaimer.h> -- NeXTmail Friendly! -- HAMnet: KA9VDC
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Reformatting DEC DSP-series drives to 1024-byte blocks
Date: 7 Dec 1993 20:15:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2e2o8a$66e@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <wh12KKq00iUzIDaX0L@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <wh12KKq00iUzIDaX0L@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger
<infidel+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>
> Use scsitools to dump the MODE SENSE of the drive with 512 byte sectors.
> Edit the block descriptor (struct mode_sel_bd in
> /usr/include/bsd/dev/scsireg.h) from 512 (0x200) to 1024 (0x400); ie,
> change the 2 to a 4 in byte 6 of the bdf field (on big-endian machines,
> anyway).
>
> Write this back to your drive, and send it a SCSI format command via
> /usr/etc/disk or by some other means.
>
Would anyone like to volunteer to be a guinea pig and try this out? My
DEC drive is full of all my development work, so backing it up,
reformatting it, and then finding out that I've made the drive unusable
would be disasterous.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lapj_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu (J. LaPierre)
Subject: Re: AMI Motherboards
Message-ID: <1993Dec7.200924.7622@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
References: <mg7p4jINNo5l@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 20:09:24 GMT
In <mg7p4jINNo5l@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> mwh@dymaxion.Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Hapner) writes:
>Has anyone attempted to install NextStep 3.2 on an AMI 486DX2-66 EISA
>VESA motherboard based system? If so, did you encounter any problems?
I currently have NeXTstep 3.2 running on an AMI Enterprise III and the
installation and performance so far has been flawless. I'm using it with
a DPT 2022/95 (even using the floppy with no problem), Toshiba 3401 internal
CD-ROM, ATI GUP EISA, and 16 Meg.
Obviously I need more memory, and eventually I'll get a Local Bus video
card (hopefully have more options on this soon).
Only problems I've had were the serial driver in 3.1 and accidental DMA
into taboo regions of memory 8*) But NeXT can hardly be blamed for the
latter. Oh actually, there does seem to be a problem with the BIOS. NS
tells me I have a PREPOSTEROUS DATE & TIME and resets it to May 5. But I
think that a lot of people have this problem (confirmations or denials
gladly accepted).
Feel free to let me know if I can help out in any way with anything
along these lines.
-Jason
----------------------------
Jason LaPierre
University of Rochester
lapj_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu
-----------------------------
>-- Mark Hapner
From: "Andrew A. Houghton" <ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Microsoft Mouse w/NS
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 15:40:31 -0500
Organization: Misc. student, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <gh1CczK00WB7RiCHdH@andrew.cmu.edu>
Aargh. I'm currently forced into using my Microsoft bus mouse, and NS
is very unhappy with the whole idea. Theoretically, it's not
supported.
Does this _really_ mean I need to use a serial mouse, or has anyone
managed to put something together which will work with Microsoft's bus
mouse?
- Andrew Houghton
(ah0i@andrew.cmu.edu)
From: ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does anyone sell hardware with NS pre-installed?
Date: Tue, 7 DEC 93 17:02:52 EST
Organization: Delphi Internet
Message-ID: <931207.61372.ECESYS@delphi.com>
References: <2e24sd$jst@gamera.umd.edu> <1993Dec7.173144.17999@leland.Stanford.EDU>
If you e-mail your fax number, we will send prices and configurations on
our Wingine-based systems.We are in the compatibilityguide, and have been
building systems since NeXTWORLD Expo in the the Spring.
Regards,
M. Fossum
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Subject: How good is the Pentium for 3D on NS/FIP
Message-ID: <CHoqp8.6x1@unix.portal.com>
Summary: Any feedback using a pentium for 3D on NS/FIP
Keywords: NS/FIP, PENTIUM
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 22:05:30 GMT
I trying to figure out if 2 486's will give me better performance
than one Pentium Chip for 3D rendering. I need to run some
big jobs (several days on a 486/33). Does anyone have any
comments about using a Pentium system for 3D under NS.
Brad Wright
wwright@premisys.com
wwright@shell.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: monheit@spieden.stanford.edu (Mark Monheit)
Subject: New DEC XL pcs
Message-ID: <MONHEIT.93Dec7145947@spieden.stanford.edu>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Psychology Department, Stanford U.
Date: 7 Dec 93 14:59:47
The new DECpc XL 466d2 (and Pentium) looks like a very interesting
machine. Among other things:
PCI S3-928 or PCI-Viper
PCI SCSI-II on motherboard
3 ISA, 2 PCI, 1 PCI/ISA slots
Daughterboard upgradeable to Pentium/Alpha.
So, anyone want to venture a guess when/if NS will support the video
and scsi on this machine?
--mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: carl@Malthus.Stanford.EDU (Carl T. Bergstrom)
Subject: NS FIP on Intel Pro GX in Bay Area?
Message-ID: <1993Dec7.230458.2319@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 23:04:58 GMT
Hello,
My name is Carl Bergstrom. I will be purchasing a couple of new computers
for our population genetics lab here at Stanford, specifically, a couple
of 486 PC's on which to run NeXTStep for Intel. Though the printed
benchmarks tell me everything I want to know about processor performance,
video speed is tougher to evalute. I am finding it very hard to make an
intellegent decision on this matter, in that there is (to the best of my
knowledge) no retailer who has NSi running on machines for the buyer to
evaluate.
In particular, I am looking at the Intel Pro GX machine. From all reports
and spec sheets, this seems like the ideal white NextStation except for
the video, which is reportedly far slower than that of the Epson or Dell
machines. I'm hesitant to go ahead and purchase the Intel machines until I
have actually _seen_ one running NeXTStep and have determined that I could
live with the video; neither Intel nor NeXT has any idea where I could
view such a machine. I was wondering there was anyone out there in the bay
area who would possibly be willing to let me come by and view NSFIP
running on their Intel Pro GX.
Thank You,
Carl Bergstrom
Department of Biological Sciences
Stanford University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: janet@lighthouse.com (Janet Hufnagel)
Subject: Re: Help! My dog ate my mouse!
Message-ID: <1993Dec7.225836.501@lighthouse.com>
Sender: janet@lighthouse.com
Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
References: <CHMFFI.1B5@pdh.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 22:58:36 GMT
Bell Atlantic sells spare parts, their number is 800-499-NeXT. Out of
curiosity, I just called them and mice run $45-$65 depending on the style. I
wonder if they have any old style keyboards left...hmmm...
Janet Hufnagel
Lighthouse Design
In article <CHMFFI.1B5@pdh.com> jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen) writes:
> Well, actually, he ate the little circular black thingie with the
> donut hole that holds the mouse ball in. DAMN! I was cleaning it
> and put that little doo-dad on the table and while my back was
> turned, my dog walked over and gobbled that thingie up.
>
> This is NOT a joke. You have no idea how hard it is using your
> mouse when you can't pick it up off of the mouse pad because the
> ball will fall out.
>
> So the question is, can I replace the doo-dad? the whole mouse?
> Does anyone have either for sale? I need a NeXT non-ADB mouse
> (mine is an early ColorStation).
>
> Hey Eric, did you happen to buy up 1000 of those donut-looking
> black thingies along with the hex tools at the auction? :-) :-)
>
> Thanks for ANY assistance.
>
> Jon Rosen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: NS 3.2 on NICE Super-EISA Board?
Message-ID: <westesCHp5Kv.7Dz@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 03:26:51 GMT
I need help installing NS 3.2.
I'm installing NeXTSTEP 3.2 on a NICE chipset Super-EISA motherboard
(1 VESA LB slot; 8 EISA slots) with an AMI BIOS. The cards I am
using are:
Adaptec 1542C driving a Maxtor 540SL
(I was hoping to use a 1742, but I don't see a
driver for it)
ATI Ultra Pro 2meg
Taiwanese serial/parallel card with 1 16550 on the first serial port
Microsoft mouse attached to the first serial port
SMC Elite 16/Combo card
Pro Audio Spectrum 16
I'm running into disaster here. With the above configuration, I
get through the initial floppy install, and NeXTSTEP comes up with
its logo and the slider bar goes from left to right as NeXTSTEP
checks the disk, loads services, etc. At this point the desktop
becomes a blank gray slate with the mouse pointer at the top left,
and the system freezes.
On suspicion of some IRQ overlaps, I removed the ethernet card and
the sound card (both are apparently configured by software rather
than by hard-wired jumpers, so this made me think the default
IRQ/ports might overlap). Now I get the same symptoms, except
instead of a blank gray desktop, I get the blank desktop followed
by:
Unexpected kernel trap d eip 1a3f4c
Is NS 3.2 compatible with the NICE chipset Super-EISA board?
What are some possible causes for my problem?
Does NeXTSTEP properly configure the IRQs for the sound/ethernet
card I list above?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Re: NS 3.2 on NICE Super-EISA Board?
Message-ID: <westesCHp6Dx.8sy@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
References: <westesCHp5Kv.7Dz@netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 03:44:20 GMT
Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote:
: On suspicion of some IRQ overlaps, I removed the ethernet card and
: the sound card (both are apparently configured by software rather
: than by hard-wired jumpers, so this made me think the default
: IRQ/ports might overlap). Now I get the same symptoms, except
: instead of a blank gray desktop, I get the blank desktop followed
: by:
: Unexpected kernel trap d eip 1a3f4c
Second time around I get:
Unexpected kernel trap d eip 1a3f5a
Failed instruction exception (2, d, 0)
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Waihon A Kwong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to add Memory to a non-turbo Station?
Date: 8 Dec 1993 00:16:48 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2e36dg$90v@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Hi,
I'm trying to add some memory to my friend's NeXTStation (non-turbo).
I personally have a CUBE and it can be opened very easily. Is there anything
I need to beware of when I open the station?
Thanks in advance,
--
//|| // @ E-mail: wkwong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
// || // @ wkwong@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu
//==||/\\ @
// || \\ @ "If you put your mind to it, you can accompish anything!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon)
Subject: SUMMARY: NeXT thinks it is on a NET
Message-ID: <1993Dec8.051959.19947@seas.smu.edu>
Sender: news@seas.smu.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: SMU - School of Engineering & Applied Science - Dallas
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 05:19:59 GMT
A great big huge "Thank you" is in order. I finally have my system up
and running thanks to the enormous amount of help received by the fellow
Netters. Anyway, the proper thing to do:
1. break into command ROM monitor (cmd - cmd ~)
2. type "bsd -s" to boot single user mode
3. Edit /etc/hostconfig, and replace:
YPDOMAIN=mydomain
with
YPDOMAIN=-NO-
4. save and reboot
5. all was well with the boot up.
Now that I have my system is running, I can worry about my big criminal
law & procedure final!
Once again, thank you for most needed service!
Dave
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: MaxAudio
Message-ID: <1993Dec7.211221.10699@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 21:12:21 GMT
Has anybody heard of MaxAudio from Harvard Toolworks, I tried E-mail, fax
and I did not get any answer.
I first met them at May 1993 NeXTWorld Expo and they were advertising
MaxAudio audio/SMPTE/MIDI
rack module with 15-pins NeXT DSP-port cable -> $450
AES/EBU, S/PDIF Digital audio option -> $150
Programmable stereo gain control -> $50
MaxAudio ISA-bus 56001 card -> $295
I really need to know if it's another VAPORWARE company because their
prices seems quite reasonable to me.
They are located at:
Harvard Toolworks
91 Ann Lee Road
Harvard, MA 01451
tel: 508 772 44 20
fax: 508 772 46 03
E-mail: info@magdalen.dmc.com
--Fabien
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3 rue ANDRE DANJON, 75019 PARIS, France,
Tel: 33 1 4040 0206 Fax: 33 1 4040 0641
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From: jim@philo.mcgill.ca (James A. McGilvray)
Subject: Low-level format: Maxtor P0-12S?
Message-ID: <1993Dec8.144347.8950@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Sender: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 14:43:47 GMT
Hello, all:
I'm considering re-formatting a Maxtor P0-12S (rev JB21) to 1024 from 512
and giving it two partitions. (It is used on an 040 Cube, and presently
formats out to about 1000MB.) This drive has been around for a while; has
anyone had any experience with low-level formats on it? I would
appreciate any advice I can get -- including the "If it ain't broke..."
variety.
Perhaps there are kind souls who can provide as much detail as Michael
Allard does in his posting on his recent experience with Fujitsus and
Seagates?
Thanks.
Jim
______
Jim McGilvray/Philosophy/McGill
jim@philo.mcgill.ca
From: giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Upgrade to 3.2 broke the keyboard!
Date: 8 Dec 1993 15:11:11 GMT
Organization: Division of Information Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2e4qqf$2dk@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Keywords: 3.2 nextstep keyboard
I upgraded a Toshiba 4400C (20 MB RAM/200 MB HD/486-25DX) yesterday to 3.2.
There was a little surprise: during the boot process, the CapsLock and NumLock
lights light up and the keyboard freezes. It is useable at the pre-boot
prompt, so it is not a hardware failure, but when the log in window comes up
it is completely unusable.
This configuration is listed in the 3.2 compatibility guide, so the behavior
seems strange. It happens when booted with "config=Default" as well. It
worked fine in 3.1.
Any ideas as to how to fix this, or how to "downgrade" back to 3.1 would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
Michael Giddings
UW Madison Chemistry
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Microsoft Mouse w/NS
Date: 8 Dec 1993 15:28:12 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2e4rqc$jea@fermat.mayo.edu>
References: <gh1CczK00WB7RiCHdH@andrew.cmu.edu>
In article <gh1CczK00WB7RiCHdH@andrew.cmu.edu> "Andrew A. Houghton"
<ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
> Aargh. I'm currently forced into using my Microsoft bus mouse, and NS
> is very unhappy with the whole idea. Theoretically, it's not
> supported.
>
> Does this _really_ mean I need to use a serial mouse, or has anyone
> managed to put something together which will work with Microsoft's bus
> mouse?
>
> - Andrew Houghton
> (ah0i@andrew.cmu.edu)
It appears that a Bus Mouse is supported in 3.2 (there is a driver for it...)
"Title" = "Bus Mouse";
"Family" = "Pointing Device";
"Version" = "1.0";
"Location" = "";
"Instance" = "0";
"Driver Name" = "BusMouse";
"DMA Channels" = "";
"IRQ Levels" = "5";
"I/O Ports" = "0x23C-0x23F";
"Memory Maps" = "";
"Boot Driver";
"Valid IRQ Levels" = "3 4 5";
"Inverted" = "No";
"Resolution" = "400";"Server Name" = "BusMouse";
"Driver Version" = "PROGRAM:BusMouse PROJECT:kbdmicedrivers-7
DEVELOPER:mflynn BUILT:NO DATE SET (-B used)";
I didn't install it yet, but I do have 5 MS bus mice with cards sitting here.
Might be a weekend project.
I can't seem to get the PS/2 mouse to work on a Intel/ProGX, however....
-geoff
- Geoff
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Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Re: NS 3.2 on NICE Super-EISA Board?
Message-ID: <1993Dec8.153853.14169@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <westesCHp5Kv.7Dz@netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 15:38:53 GMT
From NEXTAnswers #1108:
---
Avoid system configurations combining an Adaptec 154xB, Adaptec 154xC,
Adaptec 154xCF and an ATI Ultra Pro EISA card. A hardware conflict exists
which causes data corruption on SCSI hard disks.
---
Don't know if this is the cause of your problem.
--
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Dimension info wanted
Date: 8 Dec 1993 11:01:53 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <2e4tph$sb1@panix.com>
I'm looking for general info on the NeXT Dimension. I understand there was
a large posting about it here a few months ago. If you hstill have it, I'd
appreciate a copy. If you have a copy of the draft owner's manual, I'd
really like to see it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: choosing a video board (#9 vs. ATI)
Message-ID: <1993Dec8.155750.14701@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 15:57:50 GMT
Anyone used the #9GXE driver yet? Any speed comparisons between it and
the ATI Ultra Pro?
--
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
From: young@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Frank H. Young)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New DEC XL pcs
Date: 8 Dec 1993 17:40:32 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2e53ig$r0c@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
References: <MONHEIT.93Dec7145947@spieden.stanford.edu>
In article <MONHEIT.93Dec7145947@spieden.stanford.edu>
monheit@spieden.stanford.edu (Mark Monheit) writes:
>
> The new DECpc XL 466d2 (and Pentium) looks like a very interesting
> machine. Among other things:
>
> PCI S3-928 or PCI-Viper
> PCI SCSI-II on motherboard
> 3 ISA, 2 PCI, 1 PCI/ISA slots
>
> Daughterboard upgradeable to Pentium/Alpha.
>
> So, anyone want to venture a guess when/if NS will support the video
> and scsi on this machine?
>
> --mark
>
Why don't those of us who are interested keep the phone lines to DEC,
NeXT, et al burning with questions like this.
I have been trying to get answers to these questions (and some others) for
some time now. The problem is that no one else seems to be making
inquiries so that the answers are not seen as important.
This machine looks like a good one to do Nextstep development on but those
of us who want to buy such a machine need to make our dollars and voices
heard.
--
Frank H. Young, Head, Department of Computer Science
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
5500 Wabash Avenue, Terre Haute, Indiana 47803-3999
E-mail: frank.young@rose-hulman.edu Phone: (812) 877-8401
or young@cs.rose-hulman.edu FAX: (812) 877-3198
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: (RTF) 3.2 FIP Install and Upgrade and 3.2 Anomalies
Date: 8 Dec 1993 19:36:30 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2e5abu$msh@fermat.mayo.edu>
Environment:
Sun Server (10/41) with Xedoc Netinfo Server software
9 Intel Pro/GXs
500 and 250MB Quantum IDE disk drives
24mb of Memory
Intel EtherExpress with the 10BaseT
Cisco Router Network using 'subsidiary network option'
(running multiple subnets on one Ethernet) The Suns and
NeXTs are on a subsidiary network.
Cabletron MRXI
Install:
Had a 1542CF Adaptec... which is not supported in 3.1. So I took
down one of the Pro/GXs and INSTALLED 3.2 user on this system,
cookbook out of the release notes and NextAnswers errata sheets,
using the 1542CF card. Installation went very well. 2 problems
with the install of the User environment:
1) it doesn't install /usr/sybase/*. This is part of the
developer environment.
2) Sybase Adaptors now default to 4.6. We noted
someproblems with
this in our applications.
I installed our Developer system on this box as well. This
corrected
#1), except the libraries default to Sybase 4.6.
Upgrades:
I then built this box into an Upgrade server. I upgraded 2
'client'
systems and noted the following:
0) The upgrade over the net took about 40 minutes, 25 of
which was
generating the upgrade plan.
1) The old /usr/sybase is not deleted... This was good.
2) The driver Instance0.tables did not upgrade... For
example,
the new ATI/GX driver only require 6 bytes of I/O
memory, whereas
the old one required 49bytes.
After trial and error, I cleaned up #2 by taking the /usr/Devices
folder off the Installed 3.2 system and dropping it in the upgrade
systems, and then turning off the SCSI support. This worked and
gave
me a consistent driver environment.
Obtw, the ATI driver on Rev 3 hardware 'almost works now' in 60hz
1120*832 16bit mode. Some flyback lines exist on the left side of
the screen. Overall the
system is quite a bit snappier. Sound is a welcome thing, although
some of
the standard sounds seem a bit 'cracky'.
Current open issues:
- Using the PS/2 Mouse port. I have a couple of Microsoft serial
mice
with PS/2 adapters, and I have yet to figure out how to get them to
work with the PS/2 mouse port.
- In booting in config=Default mode, the system would hang trying
to
configure the BusMouse. this was fixed by booting single user and
removing the references to BusMouse in
/usr/Devices/System.config/Default.*
- On one tested 3.2 system, running BenchPress.app hard crashes the
Pro/GX
when running the 100-thread test.
Anyone have Ideas on these? Anyone else seen this problem?
Major anomaly -
The current major problem is one concerning the network. The one
Installed 3.2 system and one of the upgraded 3.2 systems don't
connect to the network in the same way as the 3rd, or as any of the
3.1 systems. The network is a 'subsidiary net' - Cisco Routers
allow an ethernet interface to support multiple IP subnets on a
single wire. These NEXTSTEP boxes are on such a wire. The main
network is 129.176.100.x, and the minor is 129.176.141.x. (this is
done to allow installation of new subnets before the infrastructure
is in place to support them, and not require continual reconfigging
the desktops on the net when the systems are moved from net to
net).
Anyway, the 2 clients in question will not bind to the Netinfo
server, unless the servers address is explicitly listed in their
'./local' netinfo domain, similar to a situation where the server
is on
another subnet. However, here it is not. All are on the same
ethernet, all have the same subnet and subnet masks, and all are
using the same broadcast address. (and all worked under 3.1)
Also, the affected systems cannot determine their host names from
the net
(/etc/hostconfig HOSTNAME=-AUTOMATIC-). Hostname determination is
done
early in the startup, before rc.net, router adds, and netinfo
startup.
Here is the picture:
All clients have the following hostconfig file:
#
HOSTNAME=hostname
INETADDR=-AUTOMATIC-
ROUTER=129.176.141.1
IPNETMASK=255.255.255.0
IPBROADCAST=129.176.141.0
NETMASTER=-NO-
YPDOMAIN=-NO-
TIME=-AUTOMATIC-
now, the problem seems to be that the affected clients
(crcsysman) have a traceroute like:
crcsysman:1# traceroute phoenix
traceroute to phoenix (129.176.141.10), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
1 ecisco-100.mayo.edu (129.176.100.4) 13 ms 3 ms 3 ms
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
2 phoenix (129.176.141.10) 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms
crcsysman:6# netstat -r
Routing tables
Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use
Interface
localhost localhost UH 2 2859 lo0
default ccisco-141.mayo.ed UG 27 131426 en0
129.176 crcsysman U 0 0 en0
^^^^^^^^^^^
crcsysman:7# ifconfig en0
en0: flags=8063<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING>
inet 129.176.141.11 netmask ffffff00 broadcast
129.176.141.0
crcsysman:3# arp -a
ccisco-141.mayo.edu (129.176.141.1) at 0:0:c:4:3f:41
-------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
and the unaffected clients are like:
crcdrop3:1# traceroute phoenix
traceroute to phoenix (129.176.141.10), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
1 phoenix (129.176.141.10) 5 ms 3 ms 2 ms
crcdrop3:4# netstat -r
Routing tables
Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use
Interface
localhost localhost UH 1 855 lo0
default ccisco-141.mayo.ed UG 1 3558 en0
129.176.141 crcdrop3 U 18 12920 en0
^^^^^^^^^^^
crcdrop3:8# ifconfig en0
en0: flags=63<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING>
inet 129.176.141.4 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 129.176.141.0
crcdrop3:2# arp -a
ccisco-141.mayo.edu (129.176.141.1) at 0:0:c:4:3f:41
phoenix (129.176.141.10) at 8:0:20:1b:3e:6d
-------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
phoenix (the netinfo server) sees:
phoenix# netstat -r
Routing tables
Destination Gateway Flags Refcnt Use
Interface
localhost localhost UH 6 17178
lo0
default ccisco-141 UG 9 220088
le0
129.176.141.0 phoenix U 59 2024662
le0
phoenix# arp -a
ccisco-141.mayo.edu (129.176.141.1) at 0:0:c:4:3f:41
crcdrop3 (129.176.141.4) at 0:aa:0:33:d3:d1
ecisco-100.mayo.edu (129.176.100.4) at 0:0:c:4:3f:41
crcsysman (129.176.141.11) at 0:aa:0:33:cd:47
..
(no traceroute on the sun;-()
finally, I also get:
Dec 7 14:38:36 crcsysman netmsgserver[21]:
datagram_main.netipc_receive fails, kr = -1.
Dec 7 15:17:30 crcsysman netmsgserver[21]: srr_main.netipc_receive
fails, kr = -1. (what are these?)
It's apparent that the ethernet address of the sender is changed if
the
netinfo bind request is sent via a router, but it's not apparent
why
this is consistently (over several reboots) happening on 2 machines
and not on the one. Obviously crcsysman is seeing something when
it starts up routing that wants it to change the from the netmask
to the class b mask... Why?
The workaround is relatively painless, but I am curious to know if
anyone has seen anything similar? Since crcsysman and crcdrop3 are
clones
in hardware and software, what's the difference? This works
without a
problem in 3.1
Is it the rev of the ethernet board and some new 3.2 IP code? If
so, what
is it doing? Is it active ("send my packets to the router") or
passive,
("The router tells me to send him the packets")
And so it goes... I am waiting on the other 6 installs until some
application code is configured and tested for the new sybase
environment.
Any opinions are welcome
- Geoff
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Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
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From: jtrimble@jpljpt .jpl.nasa.gov (Jay P. Trimble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New DEC XL pcs
Date: 8 Dec 1993 21:23:44 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2e5gl0$18i@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
References: <2e53ig$r0c@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
In article <2e53ig$r0c@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> young@cs.rose-hulman.edu
(Frank H. Young) writes:
> In article <MONHEIT.93Dec7145947@spieden.stanford.edu>
> monheit@spieden.stanford.edu (Mark Monheit) writes:
> >
> > The new DECpc XL 466d2 (and Pentium) looks like a very interesting
> > machine. Among other things:
> >
> > PCI S3-928 or PCI-Viper
> > PCI SCSI-II on motherboard
> > 3 ISA, 2 PCI, 1 PCI/ISA slots
> >
> > Daughterboard upgradeable to Pentium/Alpha.
> >
> > So, anyone want to venture a guess when/if NS will support the video
> > and scsi on this machine?
> >
> > --mark
> >
I have called both DEC and NeXT on this subject. NeXT won't commit but
says it will probably be supported at some point. The people at DEC have
heard of NeXTstep but they didn't know if it would run on the XL.
Jay
>
> Why don't those of us who are interested keep the phone lines to DEC,
> NeXT, et al burning with questions like this.
>
> I have been trying to get answers to these questions (and some others)
for
> some time now. The problem is that no one else seems to be making
> inquiries so that the answers are not seen as important.
>
> This machine looks like a good one to do Nextstep development on but
those
> of us who want to buy such a machine need to make our dollars and voices
> heard.
> --
> Frank H. Young, Head, Department of Computer Science
> Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
> 5500 Wabash Avenue, Terre Haute, Indiana 47803-3999
> E-mail: frank.young@rose-hulman.edu Phone: (812) 877-8401
> or young@cs.rose-hulman.edu FAX: (812) 877-3198
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mbrinkho@nyx.cs.du.edu (Matthew C. Brinkhoff)
Subject: '030 NeXT RAM?
Message-ID: <1993Dec8.231207.29184@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 23:12:07 GMT
I'm going to be purchasing a NeXT soon, and I would like to know what kind
of RAM it takes. It is a 68030 'Cube.
I've got (2) 2-Meg 36-bit 72-Pin (whew!) SIMMs from a PC-Clone, would they
work? (Its currently got 8 Megs).
Thanks!
--
Matt Brinkhoff
mbrinkho@midland.UUCP
mbrinkho@nyx.cs.du.edu
--
Matt Brinkhoff
mbrinkho@midland.UUCP
mbrinkho@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI CABLE HELP
Date: 8 Dec 1993 23:46:18 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2e5p0a$nmk@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Hi. Simple question. I have the Apple CD-150 drive,
and am using it happily with a borrowed cable that shipped
with the old Next cd-rom drive. I have to give said
cable back. What kind of cable is it exactly? SCSI 1
to SCSI 2? Simple SCSI connector? I can just go out
and buy a Mac SCSI connector, right?
Oh, I forgot - I'm using it with a Nextstation
Turbo slab.
Thanks
L. Anathea Brooks
Univ. of Maryland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: NS FIP on Intel Pro GX in Bay Area?
Message-ID: <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1993Dec7.230458.2319@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 23:14:57 GMT
carl@Malthus.Stanford.EDU (Carl T. Bergstrom) writes:
>Hello,
>My name is Carl Bergstrom. I will be purchasing a couple of new computers
>for our population genetics lab here at Stanford, specifically, a couple
>of 486 PC's on which to run NeXTStep for Intel. Though the printed
>benchmarks tell me everything I want to know about processor performance,
>video speed is tougher to evalute. I am finding it very hard to make an
>intellegent decision on this matter, in that there is (to the best of my
>knowledge) no retailer who has NSi running on machines for the buyer to
>evaluate.
I understand - I wish more vendors will show NX at trade shows...
>In particular, I am looking at the Intel Pro GX machine. From all reports
>and spec sheets, this seems like the ideal white NextStation except for
>the video, which is reportedly far slower than that of the Epson or Dell
>machines. I'm hesitant to go ahead and purchase the Intel machines until I
>have actually _seen_ one running NeXTStep and have determined that I could
>live with the video; neither Intel nor NeXT has any idea where I could
>view such a machine. I was wondering there was anyone out there in the bay
>area who would possibly be willing to let me come by and view NSFIP
>running on their Intel Pro GX.
Slow video performance easily masks the performance gain of a Pentium
for the user at the console.
The Intel Pro GX uses the ATI Mach32 chip, one the slowest of the high
end local bus chips. The S3 928 is much faster, and a Wingine or JAWS
video subsystem blows the S3 away. This is assuming the ATI & S3 are
on VESA local bus - I don't have a feel for the PCI versions. If you've
never used a turbo color or a Wingine/JAWS machine, you might find it
acceptable. If you have a turbo color, the Wingine/JAWS machines can
keep up. Note that this is subjective feel, not NXBench or anything.
Warning - the current Epson NX does not have a static RAM cache, so
computationally it's 10-15% slower than the Intel. The Epson also
doesn't have VLB or EISA slots. However, it can run in native MegaPixel
resolution at near or above turbo color speeds.
The other Wingine machine is made by JCIS and is sold by Lucky Goldstar and
eCesys. JCIS will be selling it direct soon. The hardware will soon
support 1152x900 at 16 bit, but it is unknown when the driver will come out.
This machine does have a static RAM cache so its about par with the Intel
for CPU performance. For video, it matches and is sometimes faster than
the Epson and the machine does have a VLB slot.
The DGX has comparable video performance with the Wingine machines and also
runs at MegaPixel resolution. However, this box is not being made
by Dell anymore and is based on a 486DX2 *50mhz*. I think Dell has
quite a few still stockpiled though.
Both Wingine machines and the Dell DGX use non-standard local bus
implementations. Apparently, VLB is just too slow and restricted.
The JCIS box at least puts its video on a card so it can be upgraded -
the Epson and the DGX have it integrated on the motherboard.
You'll have to sit down in front of an Intel box and work with it a bit -
most of my clients find it intolerable, but they do a lot of graphics
intensive work.
I know Alpine Computing sells basically everything out there, and I'm trying
to get them to carry the JCIS box.
Disclaimer: you know, of course, that all this will change when decent
Pentiums with PCI hit the streets. No, I'm not talking about Gateway.
Personally, I'm waiting for a 64bit Wingine based Pentium box. :-)
Good luck!
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
From: sav3@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: GX Pro Mouse Hell
Date: 8 Dec 1993 23:36:22 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: USA
Message-ID: <2e5odm$iig@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
I installed NS FIP successfully on my GX PRO using the new
SCSI driver, and everything seemed fine until I booted for
the first time. It loaded perfectly into the workspace
manager but my mouse didn't move. I switched it to the
com 1 port, rebooted, and still nothing.
Any ideas!
Much appreciated
******************************************************************************
"it's not music if no one wants to listen to it"
Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, ta-sav2@cunixa.columbia.edu
******************************************************************************
From: weiss@pinfo100.informatik.uni-mannheim.de (Michael Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: setting greyscale mode in software?
Date: 8 Dec 1993 16:11:14 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Message-ID: <2e4ub2$e9v@darum.uni-mannheim.de>
Hi netters,
does anyone know how to set the greyscale mode in software? Our goal
is to drive our 640x480 VGA card at a lower greyscale level and thereby
increase the resolution of our screen to something that more resembles
the familiar look of the black boxes.
Currently, it is almost impossible to use the developer tools on our
system, because the windows nearly completely overlap. What options are
there to avoid this? Any help will be appreciated.
--
Michael Weiss
Lehrstuhl fuer Praktische Informatik I
Universitaet Mannheim, D-68131 Mannheim, Germany
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Reformatting a DEC DSP3105 drive
Date: 9 Dec 1993 00:28:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2e5rf4$au1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In the continuing saga, I seem to be confused about what "reformatting"
a drive means. The DEC DSP3105 apparently cannot be reformatted in the
field to 1024-byte blocks but according to DEC, the block size can be
changed without reformatting by changing the block descriptor (gotten from
a MODE SENSE command) and issuing a MODE SELECT command. Apparently,
scsitools supports both of these operations.
I guess my question is what is the difference in changing a block size
by reformatting versus changing the block descriptor? Will the same gain
in disk space (and possibly some increase in performance) be realized in
both cases?
I think I should stick to application programming and be happy that my
drive works at all :-)
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dave@alembicla.com(David W. Fahrney)
Subject: Re: Does anyone sell hardware with NS pre-installed?
Message-ID: <CHp895.1GM@alembicla.com>
Sender: dave@alembicla.com (David W. Fahrney)
Organization: Alembic Systems International, Ltd.
References: <2e24sd$jst@gamera.umd.edu>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 04:24:40 GMT
In article <2e24sd$jst@gamera.umd.edu> jon@starburst.umd.edu (Jonathan Kruger) writes:
!> I need another 486 system to run NS and I don't have time to deal with
!> ordering and assembling the whole mess. Can anyone point me to a US
!> vendor who sells cool hardware with NS pre-installed that can accept
!> a university purchase order? Thanks.
!>
Try Workstation 2000 at tfinn@cerf.net. They sell the acclaimed Intel GX Workstations
preconfigured with NS 3.2.
--
David W. Fahrney =:-)
Alembic Systems International, Los Angeles
V: 310.371.6226
F: 310.371.0886
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Re: NS 3.2 on NICE Super-EISA Board?
Message-ID: <westesCHqtyM.F4y@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
References: <westesCHp5Kv.7Dz@netcom.com> <1993Dec8.153853.14169@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 01:11:09 GMT
Gary Ritchie (gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: From NEXTAnswers #1108:
: ---
: Avoid system configurations combining an Adaptec 154xB, Adaptec 154xC,
: Adaptec 154xCF and an ATI Ultra Pro EISA card. A hardware conflict exists
: which causes data corruption on SCSI hard disks.
: ---
: Don't know if this is the cause of your problem.
It sounds pretty close: I have an Ultra Pro VLB card. It's also a
32-bit card. Someone else wrote to me that I should first disable
the memory aperature feature on the Ultra Pro before attempting to
install NeXTSTEP. I did this, but the system still hangs at the
same point. Also, being forced to disable the memory aperature
feature destroys the performance of the video card. I don't see
what the point of NS requiring all this expensive hardware if they
don't even have drivers to use it (evidence the 1742 EISA adapter
which only seems to work if you configure it to work like an ISA
card).
Can someone please give me the name of *any* EISA SCSI host adapter
that will work in its enhanced 32-bit mode with *any* VLB video card using
NS 3.2? I'm feeling a little lost here now.
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP:Connection TI microWriter and NeXT!
Date: 8 Dec 1993 20:26:48 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <199312090226.DAA31728@grasp.insa-lyon.fr>
Bonjour!
I've a TI microWriter PS23 Laser Printer which is connected from my NeXTStation's serial port A to TI AppleTalk port through an apple printer cable (mini-din8 <-> mini-din8). The TI microWriter has two ports(one mini-din8 for AppleTalk and one parallel port for PC). When I send print command from NeXT application's print pannel, TI mW do NOTHING but it displays always "Online Idle". The "/usr/adm/lpd-errs" says as follow:
>
> psbanner: myhost:nobody Job: TESTFILE - /private/adm Date: Thu Dec 9 02:05:02 1993
> psif: myhost:nobody mw start - Thu Dec 9 02:05:04 1993
>
and "lpc> status mw" command gives;
>mw:
> queuing is enabled
> printing is enabled
> 1 entry in spool area
> Printer Error: may need attention! (Not Responding for 3 minutes)
>
and when I delete printing job from its queue, deamon adds to "/usr/adm/lpd-errs" as below:
>psif: abort (start communications)
>psif: end - Thu Dec 9 02:09:44 1993
>Dec 9 02:09:44 myhost lpd[2211]: abortpr
>
Anyone can help me ?
Can someone specify cable connection in this case, if require?
Do I have to use "cap60(Columbia Appletalk Packat with Mac, it works fin.
All informations and any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Merci d'avance!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Floppy support for adaptec controllers?
Message-ID: <westesCHqxE0.9xC@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 02:25:08 GMT
The Intel Configuration Information section on NeXT's ftp server
contains instructions for the Adaptec 1542C that suggests that the
floppy drive is not supported. But the NS 3.2 Hardware
Compatibility Guide includes a reference to the 1542C that says
"Includes a floppy controller".
Does 3.2 support the floppy adapter on the Adaptec controllers,
specifically the 1542C?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rigo@pandora (Rigo Manikofski)
Subject: SoundBOX(in German)
Message-ID: <1993Dec8.214252.1249@pandora.in-berlin.de>
Keywords: snake
Sender: rigo@pandora.in-berlin.de
Organization: Snake
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 21:42:52 GMT
V:Colorstation 440 HD /17"
Preis VB
Also die Sache ist so , ich kann erst ueber Preis oder irgenwas
reden wenn ich siese verdammte
SoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSound
boxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSo
undboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundbo
xSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoun
dboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxS
oundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundb
oxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSou
ndboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundbox
SoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSound
boxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSo
undboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundboxSoundbox......... bekomme
verdammt.....ich kriege schon Albtraeume davon!!!!!!Auserdem brauchte
ich noch 2x4 MB RAM billig 72 PIN...aber das braerchte ich ja keinem
HARDLINERNeXTler zu sage....dann ,nur dann habe ich noch eine
Colorstation zu verkaufen,........die Dinger bringen mich
um...argh...........
Rigo the snake die sich bald selbst in den Schwanz beist
!!!!!!!!!!!!ups ein "s"vergessen,diese Un(m)(T)laute
Warum ist der Nikolaus als abnormal zu bezeichnen ?
ganz einfach
Er tragt seinen Sack auf dem Ruecken !!!
har har !
Soundbox
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From: develand@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (Darren Eveland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT hardware compat.
Date: 8 Dec 1993 20:35:55 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2e5drb$199@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
I have a 486DX-50 VL-BUS (video and HD) PC, with a Sony 31A CD-ROM drive
and 8 megs of memory. My question is:
1) Will NeXTStep for Intel Processors run OK with a 486DX-50 VL-BUS
machine? What kind of performance can I expect compared to a 040 NeXT?
2) Will I be able to install NeXTSTep from my "at" CD-ROM drive?? (note:
it is not a SCSI CD-ROM, but it works great with OS/2.
3) Is 8 megs of memory enough? I have heard that you should get 24 at
least if you want to work in colour modes... But will it run on 8?
4) Will it work with my Local Bus IDE Controller (I belive it uses an ACER
chip)??
5) Will it work with my Cirrus Logic 5426 1 meg VL-BUS video card?
THANKS IN ADVANCE !!!!!
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email: develand@uoguelph.ca, develand@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca | of Guelph,
Amiga3000/25-10meg w/EGS Spectrum & 486DX/50-8meg VL-BUS video/HD| Ont.,Canada
"If all else fails, check the manual..."... Opinions expressed are my own...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: '030 NeXT RAM?
Message-ID: <1993Dec9.040625.27808@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Dec8.231207.29184@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 04:06:25 GMT
In article <1993Dec8.231207.29184@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mbrinkho@nyx.cs.du.edu
(Matthew C. Brinkhoff) writes:
> I'm going to be purchasing a NeXT soon, and I would like to know what kind
> of RAM it takes. It is a 68030 'Cube.
>
> I've got (2) 2-Meg 36-bit 72-Pin (whew!) SIMMs from a PC-Clone, would they
> work? (Its currently got 8 Megs).
No.
The RAM FAQ has been posted with all the other FAQs to
comp.sys.next.announce.
Enjoy!
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: MaxAudio
Message-ID: <1993Dec8.221016.14098@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 22:10:16 GMT
Could somebody go to Harvard Toolworks at 91 Ann Lee Road
Harvard MA 01451 and post what he found.
I really don't like VAPORWARE!
Here is a copy of a mail I just received:
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 08:24:31 -0800
From: Thierry Castro <tlc@cx5.com>
To: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org
Subject: Re: MaxAudio
In comp.sys.next.hardware article <1993Dec7.211221.10699@free.fdn.org> >
you wrote:
Has anybody heard of MaxAudio from Harvard Toolworks, I tried E-mail, >
fax
and I did not get any answer.
By coincidence, I tried again to reach them yesterday via e-mail and have
not heard back. After NeXTworld Expo, I had contacted them, but it had not
been easy: Phone # did not answer, e-mail bounced or was not answered, fax
was not replied, etc.
Last time I heard from them, which was a few months ago, it did seem like
they really had a product and were intending to distribute it. Now I am
not so sure, since I told them to call or contact me as soon as they
shipped, and have never heard anything.
I agree that MaxAudio sounds really good, and reasonably priced. Let's
hope that it really comes to be.
Cheers,
Thierry Castro
tlc@cx5.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Good Ergo Keyboards for PCs/NEXTSTEP? (like Mac ErgoKbd maybe?)
Message-ID: <thompsonCHrAB2.Dwt@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 07:04:12 GMT
Hi, just wondering if anyone knows of a good ergonomic keyboard
for a PC (Intel/GX). Especially the split-in-half-and-tilt kind
like Apple offers with the Mac Ergo Keyboard..
thanks,
Eric
From: jbm@aicorp.aiinet.com (John B. Milton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need Recommendation: CHEAP SVGA for ISA for NS 3.2
Date: 9 Dec 1993 03:45:43 -0500
Organization: Applied Innovation, Inc.
Message-ID: <2e6ojn$ncv@aicorp.aiinet.com>
Keywords: SVGA
I have NeXTstep 3.2 up and running in plain 640x480x2 V-G-A mode, but...
I seem to be running into the same problem that one has with XFree86:
When I use a SVGA mode on a generic ET4000 ISA SVGA adapter, everything seems
to be working ok, but the screen is wanged out. This looks like the same old
"only the mode change code in the BIOS ROM really knows what the clocks are"
problem. Is the ET4000 SVGA driver that comes with NS3.2 for a *specific*
ET4000 card? If so which one and where do I get it? What boards are known to
be compatible.
No, I don't have EISA, VLB or PCI.
aTdHvAaNnKcSe (THANKS in advance, get it? (not mine))
John
PS: Is there a keystroke that works the same as the RESTART button on the
login screen? I know it is there, I just can't see well enough to put
my mouse on it. I have been using right-Alt-NumLock, 'r' <CR>.
--
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Amatuer radio: N8KSN, AMPR IP: 44.70.0.52; Don't FLAME, inform!
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Reformatting a DEC DSP3105 drive
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 04:15:28 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <gh1imkq00iV400fAA6@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2e5rf4$au1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-Dec-93 Reformatting a
DEC DSP3105 .. by Art Isbell@cubicsol.com
> In the continuing saga, I seem to be confused about what
"reformatting" > a drive means. The DEC DSP3105 apparently cannot be
reformatted in the
> field to 1024-byte blocks but according to DEC, the block size can be
> changed without reformatting by changing the block descriptor (gotten
from > a MODE SENSE command) and issuing a MODE SELECT command.
Apparently,
> scsitools supports both of these operations.
> I guess my question is what is the difference in changing a block size
> by reformatting versus changing the block descriptor? Will the same gain
> in disk space (and possibly some increase in performance) be realized in
> both cases?
> I think I should stick to application programming and be happy that my
> drive works at all :-)
There are two components to drive formatting; the low-level format and
the high-level format. When you use /usr/etc/disk to Format a disk,
what is does is execute the sdform command which sends the SCSI 'FORMAT
UNIT' command to the device. It is the responsibility of the device to
know how to perform the low level format.
How the device decides to format itself depends on MODE SENSE data. You
have to change the blocksize by changing the struct block descriptor
field, and then issue a SCSI 'FORMAT UNIT' command to actually change
the physical low-level format of the device. God only knows what'll
happen if you change the blocksize without reformatting, but I wouldn't
expect things to work.
Anyway, once you've done the low-level format, then you can perform the
high-level format, which consists of things like creating a valid disk
label, setting up the partition table, writing boot blocks to the
device, and actually creating usable filesystems via the mkfs (or newfs)
commands. Note that /usr/etc/disk calls these programs as well when you
do an init command. The high level format looks at the physical
blocksize of the current low-level format to determine its parameters.
Note that for devices supporting the 'MODE SENSE' command, pretty much
everything works automatically -- /usr/etc/disk will figure things out
without having an entry in /etc/disktab.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Mouse w/NS
Message-ID: <1993Dec8.234519.14607@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <2e4rqc$jea@fermat.mayo.edu>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 23:45:19 GMT
In article <2e4rqc$jea@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff
Brunkhorst) writes:
> In article <gh1CczK00WB7RiCHdH@andrew.cmu.edu> "Andrew A. Houghton"
> <ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> >
> > Aargh. I'm currently forced into using my Microsoft bus mouse, and NS
> > is very unhappy with the whole idea. Theoretically, it's not
> > supported.
> >
> > Does this _really_ mean I need to use a serial mouse, or has anyone
> > managed to put something together which will work with Microsoft's bus
> > mouse?
> >
> > - Andrew Houghton
> > (ah0i@andrew.cmu.edu)
>
> It appears that a Bus Mouse is supported in 3.2 (there is a driver for
it...)
>
> "Title" = "Bus Mouse";
> "Family" = "Pointing Device";
> "Version" = "1.0";
> "Location" = "";
> "Instance" = "0";
> "Driver Name" = "BusMouse";
> "DMA Channels" = "";
> "IRQ Levels" = "5";
> "I/O Ports" = "0x23C-0x23F";
> "Memory Maps" = "";
> "Boot Driver";
> "Valid IRQ Levels" = "3 4 5";
> "Inverted" = "No";
> "Resolution" = "400";"Server Name" = "BusMouse";
> "Driver Version" = "PROGRAM:BusMouse PROJECT:kbdmicedrivers-7
> DEVELOPER:mflynn BUILT:NO DATE SET (-B used)";
>
> I didn't install it yet, but I do have 5 MS bus mice with cards sitting
here.
> Might be a weekend project.
>
> I can't seem to get the PS/2 mouse to work on a Intel/ProGX, however....
>
>
>
> -geoff
> - Geoff
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
> Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
> Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Only Logitech bus mice are supported, the MS bus mouse protocol is MS
proprietary and non-disclosed.
--Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: thompson@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Re: NS FIP on Intel Pro GX in Bay Area?
Message-ID: <thompsonCHrHur.9oz@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <1993Dec7.230458.2319@leland.Stanford.EDU> <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 09:47:15 GMT
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>
>The Intel Pro GX uses the ATI Mach32 chip, one the slowest of the high
>end local bus chips.
...
>If you've
>never used a turbo color or a Wingine/JAWS machine, you might find it
>acceptable. If you have a turbo color, the Wingine/JAWS machines can
>keep up. Note that this is subjective feel, not NXBench or anything.
Strange.. I have a turbo color and use a Intel/GX, and I was under the
impression the video performance was about the same, if not better, on
the Intel. On the other hand, I haven't used a Wingine or a JAWS...
still.
Yet another reason you should attempt to try out all the machines you
are considering buying, I suppose.
Eric
thompson@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bau@cs.cornell.edu (David Bau)
Subject: Do the new NEC 3xSpin CD ROM drives work fine with NSI?
Message-ID: <1993Dec9.120608.26355@cs.cornell.edu>
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 12:06:08 GMT
Well, it's time for me to upgrade to NSI 3.2, and it seems like a
good time to buy a CD ROM drive. Has anybody used one of the new
NEC triple spin CD ROM drives with NS yet? Any problems or suprises?
Thanks.
David
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Sources for Next SCSI Cables?
Date: 9 Dec 1993 12:47:32 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2e76p4$cg1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Does anyone know a good mailorder source for a SCSI cable,
50pin Centronics at one end, high density SCSI-II connector at the
other? For use with a slab and cd-rom drive?
Thanks
L. Anathea Brooks
From: philipp@res.enst.fr (Philippe-Andre Prindeville)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problems with serial ports, mice, and modems
Date: 9 Dec 1993 13:38:51 GMT
Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications, Paris FRANCE
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[ I recently began the proud owner of 486-VESA box running NeXTStep. I
got this for my home so that I could get a bit of experience with
NeXTStep before my department moves to NeXTStep on our park of HP 700
machines (well, it's not yet definite). But more to the point: ]
My machine came with an I/O card that is fairly standard: COM1
and COM2
plus LPT1 on the same card. I use COM1 for my serial mouse
(with one of
those funny DB-25 to DB-15 connectors).
=> I would like to change my configuration to use COM2 for the
serial mouse
but Configure doesn't seem to "remember" the change. Ie. each
time I select
"COM2" in the little menu, select "Save", and then come back to
the
application later, it is miraculously back on "COM1". Across
reboots too.
=> Second problem is more pressing. I got a USRobotics
Sportster 14,400
baud modem to run SLIP over from home. Problem is, I can't seem
to
configure NeXTStep to have a third serial port (or to configure
this as
an ACU device) -- since this card emulates an external Hayes
modem on a
serial port. At least that was DOS thinks it is. Could be BIOS
doing
that but I doubt it (having limited PC experience).
I know that NeXTStep is (in theory) a single-user platform but,
hey guys,
can't I have more than 2 serial ports? Ie. Mouse, modem, and
one spare
serial port for a printer or whatever?
Surely someone else has run into this problem (and possibly the
precedent)
before...
Please respond to me directly, unless you think ithe answer is of wider
interest... Thanks,
-Philip
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From: g8ujkm@orioles (Jeff K. Marshall)
Subject: Help! Northgate & Adaptec 1740
Message-ID: <1993Dec9.125623.29811@almserv.uucp>
Keywords: adaptec, northgate, help, install
Sender: usenet@almserv.uucp
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 12:56:23 GMT
The following is posted for a friend, please reply to the address given
below and/or to this newsgroup, thanks!
I'm installing 3.2 on an Adaptec 1740 running in standard mode on a
Northgate 486/50 EISA with an AMI bios, a 323 meg Micropolis hard
drive at SCSI ID 0 and a SONY CDU-541 (at any ID), and an ATI
Graphics Ultra 8514. The install works fine until it begins copying
files to the hard drive. Then I get this:
Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1
AHA timeout
sd0 I/O Timeout; Retrying
target: 0 lun: 0 op write block: 587088 block count: 16
Resetting SCSI Bus
This message appears over and over with different block numbers.
Anyone have any clues? Anyone have NeXTSTEP working with the AHA1740?
Thanks
Scott Bender
Harmony Data Systems
sbender@dus.mountain.net
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From: olson@raptor.mcs.anl.gov (Bob Olson)
Subject: Re: Reformatting a DEC DSP3105 drive
Message-ID: <7554496302224@raptor.mcs.anl.gov>
Sender: usenet@mcs.anl.gov
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References: <gh1imkq00iV400fAA6@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 15:07:10 GMT
Hmm. I am having problems with a DEC drive too, a DSP5350. I did a
sdform and got the following:
localhost:6# disk -i /dev/rsd1a
disk name: DEC DSP5350S
disk type: fixed_rw_scsi
writing disk label
boot block extends beyond front porch
Interestingly, I get the same on a 3G Seagate drive also (I don't
remember the model offhand), both before and after a sdform.
Any ideas?
--bob
From: djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Floppy support for adaptec controllers?
Date: 9 Dec 1993 15:46:49 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <2e7h99$krj@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <westesCHqxE0.9xC@netcom.com>
In article <westesCHqxE0.9xC@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
writes:
> The Intel Configuration Information section on NeXT's ftp server
> contains instructions for the Adaptec 1542C that suggests that the
> floppy drive is not supported. But the NS 3.2 Hardware
> Compatibility Guide includes a reference to the 1542C that says
> "Includes a floppy controller".
>
> Does 3.2 support the floppy adapter on the Adaptec controllers,
> specifically the 1542C?
[stuff deleted]
We have tested the 1542B, 1542C, 1542CF, and buslogic 747 on 3.2
The ONLY floppy controller that now works is the buslogic. ALL of the
adaptec cards still hang/panic the system! :^(
I don't understand why it is so tough to get it right.
-David Jepson-
Stratus Computer Inc.
#Include std.disclaimer
From: rgc@cs.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NS/I and Bernoulli 150's
Date: 9 Dec 1993 11:13:42 -0500
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2e7irm$flo@moonpie.cs.umd.edu>
A while back I queried the net to see if the Bernouli 150 drives worked
for NS/I. Though no one said it definately did (but it should), I can now
say for sure it works. I've been using one on my ALR Pentium system with
NS/I 3.2 now for a couple of weeks. I can not get it to mount DOS (FAT)
disks; however, NeXT says this is a bug in NS, and they are working on a
fix. Also, when I tried to format a new disk, it would not let me format
in NeXT format (it said it couldn't write the label). The disk was good,
and came preformatted as FAT. I then tried formatting it as a Mac disk,
which took over 15 minutes. (BTW, using it as a Mac disk seems
very buggy -- if you copy a file to the disk, it doesn't show up
until you eject and remount it). Anyway, I was able reformat it as
a NeXT disk (which took about 15 seconds), and it has worked great since.
It seems about half the speed as my Fujitsu 660 hard drive, but it is
more than adequate for doing backups and storing seldom used apps.
It is a little noisy, but you get used to it after a while. Over all,
I highly recommend it.
From: traupman-jonathan@cs.yale.edu (Jonathan Traupman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Video cards for NS/FIP
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 9 Dec 1993 13:42:34 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
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Hello!
Does anyone have any experience with the S3-928 based cards that are
supported under 3.2. Specifically, how much faster are they than the ATI
cards. I have an ATI and am quite underwealmed with the speed. I heard the
Miro Crystal is very good, but is quite pricey. Does anyone know if any of
the other S3 cards will go higher than 1024x768?
Thanks,
Jon
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From: hbstrock@world.std.com (harold b strock)
Subject: Help, NeXT laser printer feed problem
Message-ID: <CHs3rA.DK2@world.std.com>
Summary: NeXT laser printer won't feed envelopes
Keywords: laser printer feed problem
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 17:40:21 GMT
I am suddenly having trouble feeding envelopes into my NeXT laser
printer. On manual paper feed, envelopes that are slid all
the way in to the "stop" will no longer grab. Even on manual
there seems to be a competition between paper in the tray
and an envelope.
Would someone please suggest a solution.
Is there an ftp printer repair manual or FAQ I could consult?
I suspect the rubber feed roller, with its flat on
one side, and the adjacent hard plastic feed wheels, with a cam-like
step, are either miss-oriented relative to themselves or to the
position they should have at feed. Could this have happened when
pulling out a miss-fed envelope or jammed paper? If I take the
roller and shaft out, are there any alignment keyways to check?
Thanks for your help.
--
hbstrock@world.std.com phone/fax 508/829-9610
Harold B. Strock, PhD
Strock Technology Associates, Inc. Independent Licensing Executive
40 Driftwood DR Consultant in advanced materials
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From: gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Gateway 2000 success story
Message-ID: <1993Dec9.184635.2370@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 18:46:35 GMT
After the horror stories about Gateway's frequent changes to the BIOS
versions, we were pleasently surprised how easily NEXTSTEP installed on a
new Gateway 2000 4DX2-66V. Configuration as follows:
ATI Ultra Pro VLB w/2 MB RAM
Intel Etherexpress network card
16 MB RAM
405 MB IDE hard drive
BIOS GJX30G-04P
Used an Adaptec card to install 3.2 from CD.
Set up BIOS, motherboard, and cards according to instructions in
NEXTANSWERS (plus turned off the power-saver features in the BIOS) and it
*just works*. Fast, glitch free operation for two days and nights now.
--
Gary Ritchie : NeXT Programmer
Department of Medicine (Neurology) : University of Alberta Hospital
gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca : NEXTMAIL Welcome
(403) 492-8648
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From: jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick)
Subject: Re: NS 3.2 on NICE Super-EISA Board?
Message-ID: <CHsG5o.1L9@phcs.com>
Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc
References: <westesCHp5Kv.7Dz@netcom.com> <1993Dec8.153853.14169@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> <westesCHqtyM.F4y@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 22:08:12 GMT
In article <westesCHqtyM.F4y@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>Gary Ritchie (gary@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca) wrote:
>
>Can someone please give me the name of *any* EISA SCSI host adapter
>that will work in its enhanced 32-bit mode with *any* VLB video card using
>NS 3.2? I'm feeling a little lost here now.
>
>--
>Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
I have an ATI GUP VLB (rev 6) running at native next resolution
and a DPT 2022/95 controller. The system has better disk performance
than my 040 cube, NXBench is .71 at 1120*832 16bit color
and knocks the socks of the cube all around at 1280x1024 8-bit gray.
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Reformatting a DEC DSP3105 drive
Date: 9 Dec 1993 22:26:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2e88m8$6d6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
References: <2e5rf4$au1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
In article <2e5rf4$au1@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> In the continuing saga, I seem to be confused about what
"reformatting"
> a drive means. The DEC DSP3105 apparently cannot be reformatted in the
> field to 1024-byte blocks but according to DEC, the block size can be
> changed without reformatting by changing the block descriptor (gotten
from
> a MODE SENSE command) and issuing a MODE SELECT command. Apparently,
> scsitools supports both of these operations.
> I guess my question is what is the difference in changing a block
size
> by reformatting versus changing the block descriptor? Will the same
gain
> in disk space (and possibly some increase in performance) be realized in
> both cases?
From all the helpful responses I've received, I've concluded that
because truly reformatting a DEC DSP3105 so the physical block size is
1024 bytes is not possible (confirmed by DEC's literature and support
personnel), setting the logical block size to 1024 bytes isn't going to
result in any significant gain in space or performance, so it's not worth
attempting unless I had a new drive. Should anyone do this, please report
the df output so that we can see whether any additional space has been
gained.
Note that the inability to reformat is linked to the drive having an
embedded quadrature servo, so any drive with such a servo may not be
reformattable in the field either. Checking the engineering specs of your
drive may shed some light on this.
--
Art Isbell Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Consultant NEXTSTEP software development and consulting
NeXTmail: art@cubicsol.com Voice: +1 408 335 1154
USmail: 95018-9442 Fax: +1 408 335 2515
From: lusty@lusty.tamu.edu (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help! My dog ate my mouse!
Date: 9 Dec 1993 13:49:41 GMT
Organization: Me
Message-ID: <2e7adl$l6i@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU>
References: <CHMFFI.1B5@pdh.com> <2e0jmf$in0@tamuts.tamu.edu>
In article <2e0jmf$in0@tamuts.tamu.edu>,
Lusty Wench <lusty@lusty.tamu.edu> wrote:
>
>Keep him in a confined area for a day or so and ...er ...sift
>everything that comes out?
It was suggested to me that sifting this output would be the
perfect job for Mark Crispin. I'm not convinced of this,
however. Whoever does the job would have to be capable of
distinguishing a NeXT product from shit.
Lusty
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Help! Northgate & Adaptec 1740
Message-ID: <1993Dec10.033633.13785@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Dec9.125623.29811@almserv.uucp>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 03:36:33 GMT
In article <1993Dec9.125623.29811@almserv.uucp> g8ujkm@orioles (Jeff K.
Marshall) writes:
> The following is posted for a friend, please reply to the address given
> below and/or to this newsgroup, thanks!
>
> I'm installing 3.2 on an Adaptec 1740...
Stop right there!
Although NeXT promised 1740 support in 3.2, they appear to have
defaulted on that promise, even though it's listed in the 3.2 hardware
guide.
What an unpleasant surprise for those of us that ordered systems based
on that promise.
--
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: NS 3.2 on NICE Super-EISA Board?
Message-ID: <1993Dec10.034026.13858@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <CHsG5o.1L9@phcs.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 03:40:26 GMT
In article <CHsG5o.1L9@phcs.com> jq@phcs.com (Jim Quick) writes:
> I have an ATI GUP VLB (rev 6) running at native next resolution
> and a DPT 2022/95 controller. The system has better disk performance
> than my 040 cube, NXBench is .71 at 1120*832 16bit color
> and knocks the socks of the cube all around at 1280x1024 8-bit gray.
I suppose everyone has their own standard for "knocking the socks" off
something, but 60 MHz refresh video rates sure don't qualify in my book.
Too bad, the 1280x1024 screen sure would be nice otherwise. Until they
can get the refresh rates up to at least 68 MHz, I'll stick with my cube.
--
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Systems Manager Fax: 203 432 3923
Brunger Lab Internet: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
Yale Univ Dept MB&B/HHMI "I'm a NeXTstep Man, I'm a NeXTcube Guy"
From: rob-newberry@tamu.edu (Rob Newberry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT 400dpi printer to other hardware
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 18:23:36
Organization: Project 2061
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <rob-newberry.43.00126549@tamu.edu>
Hi. I'm posting this for a friend. He's got a NeXT Station with the
400 dpi postscript printer attached. He's thinking about getting
rid of the machine, but he'd like to keep the printer.
Actually, he'd like to keep his NeXT external CD-ROM as well.
Is there any way to hook these things up to non-NeXT hardware?
Which hardware? Macs, PCs, other workstations? Any info would
be a great help.
Thanks.
Rob Newberry
rob-newberry@tamu.edu
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: AMI Motherboards
Message-ID: <CHsGxJ.1ou@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <mg7p4jINNo5l@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 22:24:54 GMT
In article <mg7p4jINNo5l@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> mwh@dymaxion.Eng.Sun.COM
(Mark Hapner) writes:
> Has anyone attempted to install NextStep 3.2 on an AMI 486DX2-66 EISA
> VESA motherboard based system? If so, did you encounter any problems?
>
> -- Mark Hapner
>
>
>
No, never had problems with that configuration
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: NeXT hardware compat.
Message-ID: <CHsHAD.1qH@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <2e5drb$199@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 22:32:37 GMT
In article <2e5drb$199@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> develand@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca
(Darren Eveland) writes:
>
> I have a 486DX-50 VL-BUS (video and HD) PC, with a Sony 31A CD-ROM drive
> and 8 megs of memory. My question is:
>
> 1) Will NeXTStep for Intel Processors run OK with a 486DX-50 VL-BUS
> machine? What kind of performance can I expect compared to a 040 NeXT?
Yes works on that, not a 040 NeXT!
>
> 2) Will I be able to install NeXTSTep from my "at" CD-ROM drive?? (note:
> it is not a SCSI CD-ROM, but it works great with OS/2.
No that doesn't work, SONY CD31A is a SCSI-Drive but does not have a
50 pin Connector. Think that't 34 pins
>
> 3) Is 8 megs of memory enough? I have heard that you should get 24 at
> least if you want to work in colour modes... But will it run on 8?
Should be enough for black & white
>
> 4) Will it work with my Local Bus IDE Controller (I belive it uses an ACER
> chip)??
Need more infos
>
> 5) Will it work with my Cirrus Logic 5426 1 meg VL-BUS video card?
Only with 640 x 480 pixels. Tested out higher resolutions, didn't work
>
>
> THANKS IN ADVANCE !!!!!
> --
>
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Darren Eveland, Computer Science major, CCS p.time Consultant | University
> email: develand@uoguelph.ca, develand@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca | of Guelph,
> Amiga3000/25-10meg w/EGS Spectrum & 486DX/50-8meg VL-BUS video/HD|
Ont.,Canada
> "If all else fails, check the manual..."... Opinions expressed are my own...
>
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Need Recommendation: CHEAP SVGA for ISA for NS 3.2
Message-ID: <CHsHG5.1r8@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <2e6ojn$ncv@aicorp.aiinet.com>
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 22:36:04 GMT
In article <2e6ojn$ncv@aicorp.aiinet.com> jbm@aicorp.aiinet.com (John B.
Milton) writes:
> I have NeXTstep 3.2 up and running in plain 640x480x2 V-G-A mode, but...
>
> I seem to be running into the same problem that one has with XFree86:
>
> When I use a SVGA mode on a generic ET4000 ISA SVGA adapter, everything seems
> to be working ok, but the screen is wanged out. This looks like the same old
> "only the mode change code in the BIOS ROM really knows what the clocks are"
> problem. Is the ET4000 SVGA driver that comes with NS3.2 for a *specific*
> ET4000 card? If so which one and where do I get it? What boards are known to
> be compatible.
>
> No, I don't have EISA, VLB or PCI.
>
> aTdHvAaNnKcSe (THANKS in advance, get it? (not mine))
>
> John
>
> PS: Is there a keystroke that works the same as the RESTART button on the
> login screen? I know it is there, I just can't see well enough to put
> my mouse on it. I have been using right-Alt-NumLock, 'r' <CR>.
>
> --
> John Bly Milton IV, jbm@aiinet.com (614) h:252-8544, w:846-7261
> Amatuer radio: N8KSN, AMPR IP: 44.70.0.52; Don't FLAME, inform!
Have a close look at your TSENG Card. Rember always that there are
different TSENG-Cards on the markt. Some firms simply get the copyrights
for the TSENG-DAC but do not use the original TSENG-ROM-SYNC-BIOS Chip.
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: ProAudio + ISA in NS/I 3.2
Date: 9 Dec 1993 11:40:38 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2e6vb6$90@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,
after a few days of experimenting with NS/I 3.2, I must
state that the ProAudio does not work reliably on ISA machines.
I checked it in combination with an Adaptec 1542 C as well as
with a DPT 2021 SCSI controller at various DMA/IRQ settings.
The result is always the same: Sound works quite fine for a while,
but suddenly the bus freezes, the SCSI controller claims to be busy
(at least the LED) and the only thing left to do is "press reset
to continue" :-((((
Usually, this event happens if you don't expect it at all, e.g.
at system beeps.
It makes me very sad. Purchasing an EISA board is the NeXT STEP for
me to do. After spending a lot of money for a ProAudio, a microphone
and loudspeakers, I WANT IT GOING!!!!
Maybe some folks with EISA boards could post here if sound works on
their machines reliably.
Regards,
Markus.
--
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zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!"
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Re: NS 3.2 on NICE Super-EISA Board?
Message-ID: <westesCHt90r.2zo@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
References: <westesCHp5Kv.7Dz@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 08:31:38 GMT
Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote:
: I need help installing NS 3.2.
: I'm installing NeXTSTEP 3.2 on a NICE chipset Super-EISA motherboard
: (1 VESA LB slot; 8 EISA slots) with an AMI BIOS. The cards I am
: using are:
: Adaptec 1542C driving a Maxtor 540SL
: (I was hoping to use a 1742, but I don't see a
: driver for it)
: ATI Ultra Pro 2meg
: Taiwanese serial/parallel card with 1 16550 on the first serial port
: Microsoft mouse attached to the first serial port
: SMC Elite 16/Combo card
: Pro Audio Spectrum 16
: I'm running into disaster here. With the above configuration, I
: get through the initial floppy install, and NeXTSTEP comes up with
: its logo and the slider bar goes from left to right as NeXTSTEP
: checks the disk, loads services, etc. At this point the desktop
: becomes a blank gray slate with the mouse pointer at the top left,
: and the system freezes.
And the solution to this problem was:
In the AMI BIOS settings, turn off the RAM shadowing for the VGA BIOS
Apparently some well-meaning technician at the company that sold me
the motherboard enabled this setting.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
Subject: Re: Sources for Next SCSI Cables?
Message-ID: <CHsB3n.1Ko@ensuing.com>
Sender: karl@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft)
Organization: Ensuing Technologies Inc.
References: <2e76p4$cg1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 20:18:58 GMT
In article <2e76p4$cg1@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
writes:
> Does anyone know a good mailorder source for a SCSI cable,
> 50pin Centronics at one end, high density SCSI-II connector at the
> other? For use with a slab and cd-rom drive?
>
> Thanks
>
> L. Anathea Brooks
>
NeXTConnection / PCConnection sells a nice black cable for $35.00. I just bought one
and it works dandy for me. It's SKU is NXSCSI2
(800) 800 NeXT
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
Subject: Formatting an external floppy NS 3.1
Message-ID: <CHtBL2.58o@ensuing.com>
Sender: karl@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft)
Organization: Ensuing Technologies Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 09:27:02 GMT
Using NeXTSTEP 3.1, I cannot format in my external PLI floppy drive.
This is the message that appears in the console:
---------
/usr/etc/disk -i -h oghma -l "Floppy" /dev/rsd1a
disk name: PLI SUPER FLOPPY
disk type: removable_rw_scsi
device = /dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 1 MBytes
Disk Format in progress...
***Format Complete***
writing disk label
boot block extends beyond front porch
--------
I looked through the last six months of the various csn groups,
but could only find various posters with the same problem.
Did anyone ever find a work around for this problem?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Effects of increasing CPU cache?
Message-ID: <westesCHtDC2.DL1@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 10:04:49 GMT
What's the likely performance benefit of increasing CPU cache from
256K to 512K or 1 meg? I've heard that UNIX is sensitive
to the size of the CPU cache.
I'm running NS 3.2 on a '486DX-33 with 256K of CPU cache and 16 megs
of main memory. I am noticing substantial delays in the system
between the time I double-click an application and the time that
the application paints its window. Is this typical for NS?
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Low-level format: Maxtor P0-12S?
Message-ID: <CHr17G.wM@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Dec8.144347.8950@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 03:47:40 GMT
In article <1993Dec8.144347.8950@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> jim@philo.mcgill.ca (James
A. McGilvray) writes:
#Hello, all:
#
#I'm considering re-formatting a Maxtor P0-12S (rev JB21) to 1024 from 512
#and giving it two partitions. (It is used on an 040 Cube, and presently
#formats out to about 1000MB.) This drive has been around for a while; has
#anyone had any experience with low-level formats on it? I would
#appreciate any advice I can get -- including the "If it ain't broke..."
#variety.
#
#Perhaps there are kind souls who can provide as much detail as Michael
#Allard does in his posting on his recent experience with Fujitsus and
#Seagates?
If anyone has done it I'd like to know also. I have a P0-12s and would
like to do the switch if possible.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: MaxAudio
Message-ID: <CHr1Bx.xD@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <1993Dec7.211221.10699@free.fdn.org>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 03:50:21 GMT
I#I first met them at May 1993 NeXTWorld Expo and they were advertising
#MaxAudio audio/SMPTE/MIDI
#rack module with 15-pins NeXT DSP-port cable -> $450
#AES/EBU, S/PDIF Digital audio option -> $150
#Programmable stereo gain control -> $50
#MaxAudio ISA-bus 56001 card -> $295
#
#I really need to know if it's another VAPORWARE company because their
#prices seems quite reasonable to me.
They had funding problems.
I was close to #1 on their list to get one and had placed
an order. The SMPTE and VITC were what attracted me.
The interface worked but they couldn't raise enough capital
to get into production.
I don't know what the status is but my guess is that it hasn't
changed since I haven't heard anything.
Kent
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From: rvonbism@disuns2.epfl.ch (Robert Von Bismarck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ZyXEL fax problems with NS 3.2 (intel)
Date: 10 Dec 1993 13:47:11 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Message-ID: <2e9ukv$252@disuns2.epfl.ch>
Hello NeXT users,
I have a little problem using the fax capabilities of the ZyXEL 1496e modem, under NeXTSTEP 3.2 (intel).
I think that all that is required is a correct driver, but I don't know where tolook. Could someone point me to it ?
Thanks in advance
(As I don't read this newsgroup very often, please respond by E-mail)
E-mail : 100116.3435@compuserve.com
Jacques Garbi
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Effects of increasing CPU cache?
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 09:22:43 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Mh28MnK00iV1421mIN@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <westesCHtDC2.DL1@netcom.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-Dec-93 Effects of
increasing CPU c.. by Will Estes@netcom.com
> What's the likely performance benefit of increasing CPU cache from
> 256K to 512K or 1 meg? I've heard that UNIX is sensitive
> to the size of the CPU cache.
Like most good questions that one is tough to answer. Still,
considering the fact that intel systems typically do not have terribly
good bus bandwidth, I'd imagine that increasing the CPU cache would help
more than doing the equivalent on black hardware.
> I'm running NS 3.2 on a '486DX-33 with 256K of CPU cache and 16 megs
> of main memory. I am noticing substantial delays in the system
> between the time I double-click an application and the time that
> the application paints its window. Is this typical for NS?
Define "substantial"?
Anyway, to improve things, you have to understand why your system is
slow and fix that. Is your machine doing a lot of swapping? (take a
look at the ratio of tranlation faults to pageouts from the vm_stat
command after your machine has been up for a while [at least a day]...if
not greater than at least 100:1 then you need more main memory. My 20MB
machine has 1191K to 2.4K for a ratio of about 400:1.) Might consider
the seperate swapdrive mentioned below, too.
Is your CPU redlined? Get a perfmeter like KPerfMon and watch and see
what the CPU load is. If it's pegged all the time, then you're
CPU-bound and maybe getting more CPU cache will help. (Or a faster
machine, of course... ;)
If you start an app, then quit it and restart, does it take a *lot* less
time to restart? If so (meaning the system's buffering has speed things
up), your machine may be I/O bound due to a slow drive/disk controller
setup. Perhaps theres some tweaking you could do there (check the
configuration, or maybe add more cache memory to the disk controller)?
If your system is waiting for disk access, then perhaps you might
consider adding a fast 40MB swapdrive to reduce the disk load (also
speed up VM/paging a whole lot), or even add a bigger drive and try to
arrange your files so that both drives get used in the hopes that you
can get better I/O throughput.
Anyway, maybe this will give your some ideas of what to look for.
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS on Gateway p5-60?
Date: 10 Dec 1993 14:39:18 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <2ea1mm$2mh@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Is anyone running NS on a p5-60?
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From: david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Viper Supported?
Date: 10 Dec 1993 14:39:46 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <2ea1ni$2mi@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
Can NS run with the Viper? (Please say yes)
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From: djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help! Northgate & Adaptec 1740
Date: 10 Dec 1993 15:29:52 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <2ea4lg$gs6@transfer.stratus.com>
References: <1993Dec10.033633.13785@cs.yale.edu>
In article <1993Dec10.033633.13785@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
(Nathan F. Janette) writes:
[stuff deleted]
> > I'm installing 3.2 on an Adaptec 1740...
> Stop right there!
>
> Although NeXT promised 1740 support in 3.2, they appear to have
> defaulted on that promise.
It depends on how you look at it...
> What an unpleasant surprise for those of us that ordered systems based
> on that promise.
The 1740 installs & runs in STD mode, NOT enhanced mode :^(
I sold mine and bought a Buslogic 747. Neat card!
-David Jepson-
Stratus Computer Inc.
#Include std.disclaimer
From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha Rao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Another successful install story on an assembled PC
Date: 10 Dec 1993 16:35:56 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2ea8hc$fa7@menudo.uh.edu>
Since everybody is excoriating Next for not handling the 3.2 shipping
efficiently, I thought I would put in a good word about the installing the
product itself.
In a word, It Just Works (^TM).
Being a long time Mac and Nextstation user, I know very little about PC
hardware. Some familiarity with PC hardware occurred this summer when I got
two Gateway DX2-66V's for my lab. NS-I has been running well on those
machines.
In the lab I had a 2 year old, original, mother-of-all nameless, all Taiwan
made, 486-33 clone sitting in a decrepit looking baby tower case. 4 M 30 pin
RAM, 130 MB IDE, cheap Trident 1MB DRAM VGA card, and an ugly eye-strain 14 in
KFC monitor doing no more than 55 Hz, it seems. I priced the components (72
pin RAM, ATI card, bigger hard disk, good monitor etc.) to upgrade, and buying
a new Gateway machine was clearly cheaper. But I decied to mess with a piece by
piece upgrade anyway.
Here is how my assembly went:
Motherboard:
Being a Gateway customer, they sold me a CPU-less Micronics JX-30G local
bus board with 256K cache for $260 (BTW, this motherboard is also made in
Taiwan). This MB has the blue ZIF CPU socket, and integrated serial, parallel
and local bus IDE controllers. Bought one 16MB 4x36 SIMM from Marco for $636.
Very carefully, I removed the 486-33 from the old MB and inserted it into the
Micronics board along with a $20 CPU heat-sink and fan. Gateway sold me this
board as a `backup' board for my existing 2 systems, so no doc's came with the
board. This was not a problem, as I had to change only one jumper (see
below), and everything else was nicely marked on the board itself. Including
the numerous thin wires that go to the switches and lights in the front of the
case. It was a slight pain putting the board in the crowded baby tower, but
as all the mounting holes on the board were properly aligned, the installation
went well (for even a PC-lay person llike me).
RAM:
I had two 1x32 (total of 8 MB) SIMMS from my NextStation Turbo. The PC
wants 36 bit SIMMS (something to do with parity memory....), so I disabled the
parity jumper (it is labeled as a master/slave jumper, just next to the W3
jumper). So, banks 0 and 1 each have a 1x32 SIMM, and bank 2 has a 1x36 SIMM
for a total of 24 MB. So far, this mixing of parity and non-parity has not
caused any problems.
SCSI:
Bought a AHA-1542CF adaptor kit for $249. Had a 1 Gig Seagate 1120N
external which I was going to put NS-I into, and also had an old HP (Toshiba
3301) external CD-ROM drive.
Video:
I am waiting for my ATI-Ultra Pro and Nanao 550-iw to arrive, so at this
time, I only have the Trident VGA card and the old KFC monitor.
Installation:
This was a non event. Set the CR-ROM to SCSI id 2, Seagate to SCSI id
0, disabled the internal IDE drive from the set up program, Just Inserted (^TM)
the Trident and Adaptec cards and with the external SCSI devices attached, I
powered on. Everything happened as indicated in the NS-I installation booklet.
I set aside 300 MB for a DOS partition and after a complete install of NS-I
developer, I have 338 MB free.
Had to do no intervention at any time during the install, it was that
effortless. The 640x480 2-bit gray on the crusty monitor is limiting, and am
waiting for the ATI and Nanao.
Editorial:
I was a long-time mourner when Next dropped hardware. I really like my
Nextstation Turbo, the Next printer, the sharp monitor, black and elegant
everything etc. etc.... But this PC assembly experience convinces me that
ugly as the PC hardware is, the standardization of all components (allowing
almost arbitrary mix and match) and the low price due to high volume
competition more than make up. All in all, a good thing has happened.
--
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Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535
University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503
Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: wgd@zurich.ai.mit.edu (William G. Dubuque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: compatibility?: Ultrastor, S3-928, 3GB drive, TEAC combo floppy, Pioneer DRM-604X 6 CD-ROM changer, HP ScanJet IIcx
Date: 10 Dec 93 11:25:42
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
Distribution: comp
Message-ID: <WGD.93Dec10112542@martigny.ai.mit.edu>
I'm considering installing NS 3.2 on my AMI Ent. III EISA/VLB system,
but I'm wondering if I'm going to have compatibility problems with the
following:
Ultrastor 24F EISA bus-mastering fast SCSI-2 disk controller. This does not
seem to be supported. Are there any future plans to support it? If not,
what fast SCSI-2 (> ISA speed) constroller have people had the best luck with?
S3 Graphics cards: I currently have an STB Pegasus S3-928 with a BT485 ramdac
but am considering getting a #9 Apex S3-928 which has a TI vupoint 200 MHz
ramdac. Any hope for such S3 cards? Does NS support 1600x1200 with any card?
My floppy is a TEAC combined 3.5, 5.25. The h/w compat. guide claims that
only one floppy is supported. Does this mean I won't be able to use my
floppy? (perhaps the 5.25 can be jumper disabled, haven't checked). Why
does NS want floppy support disabled on the disk controller?
I have a 3GB Seagate Elite III, of which I'm currently using 2.1G under
DOS (with logical remapping by the Ultrastor controller). Can NS access
past cylinder 1024 or is it also, like DOS, limited by the disk BIOS?
E.g. does NS have to boot from a partition within the first 1024 cylinders?
Even if so, if NS uses its own disk bios, I would suspect that after booting
the BIOS dependence disappears and NS should be able to access all cylinders.
Is it the case that I can preserved existing DOS partitions, converting
the last partition to NS?
Pioneer DRM-604X 6 CD-ROM changer: does NS work OK with this?
HP ScanJet IIcx: any hope?
advTHANKSance
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pclark@is.com (Pete Clark)
Subject: Re: Do the new NEC 3xSpin CD ROM drives work fine with NSI?
Message-ID: <CHsxrA.18F@is.com>
Sender: pclark@is.com (Pete Clark)
Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc.
References: <1993Dec9.120608.26355@cs.cornell.edu>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 04:28:22 GMT
In article <1993Dec9.120608.26355@cs.cornell.edu> bau@cs.cornell.edu (David
Bau) writes:
> Well, it's time for me to upgrade to NSI 3.2, and it seems like a
> good time to buy a CD ROM drive. Has anybody used one of the new
> NEC triple spin CD ROM drives with NS yet? Any problems or suprises?
>
Dunno about intel boxes, but it works fine with my cube.
Best,
Pete
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From: devans@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (David F Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Keyboard Feet and Pait
Date: 10 Dec 1993 15:11:37 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2ea3j9$o8c@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
What a great combination of questions....
Can you still get the NeXT keyboard feet anywhere? Anyone have an extra pair?
I know I could make my own but the real thing would be nifty...
Also, has anyone every tried touching-up a scratched cube? Any advice on
what paint to use? I know black is one of the hardest colours to match and I
don't really suspect I'd be able to do a job that wouldn't look like someone
was trying to erase grafitti, but just on the odd chance that someone found a
really good way of doing it......
=============================================================================
David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK)
University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the
Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command."
- Roland TR-707 Manual
From: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Help! Northgate & Adaptec 1740
Date: 10 Dec 1993 18:03:36 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <2eadlo$gp1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <1993Dec9.125623.29811@almserv.uucp> <1993Dec10.033633.13785@cs.yale.edu>
In article <1993Dec10.033633.13785@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu writes:
>Although NeXT promised 1740 support in 3.2, they appear to have
>defaulted on that promise, even though it's listed in the 3.2 hardware
>guide.
>What an unpleasant surprise for those of us that ordered systems based
>on that promise.
Well Nathan, given your history of lecturing people, you should know very
well that you can't believe everything you hear or read. Could it be
NeXT was telling you what you wanted to hear?
Eric
From: djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com (Dave_Jepson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Anybody looking for MO cartridges?
Date: 10 Dec 1993 20:00:50 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <2eakhi$1ui@transfer.stratus.com>
Sometimes you never know who's on the other end of the phone when you answer
it!
I received a phone call from a representative from Cannon who got my name
from someone who .... (you know the rest)
He said that he has 4000 (yes four thousand) MO cartridges and they are
looking for someone to take them off their hands. (this is their remaining
inventory). And would I be interested?
I told him that this was WAY beyond what we use here (we only have 2 MO
drives). If anyone is interested in purchasing them, send me some email and
I will send you his name and address.
-David Jepson-
Stratus Computer Inc.
#Include std.dislcaimer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dgursky@nextsrv1.andi.org (David Gursky)
Subject: Laptops for NEXTSTEP for Intel
Message-ID: <dgursky.755555600@news.andi.org>
Summary: Want information about Local Bus-based laptops or docking system
Keywords: Laptop, NEXTSTEP
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 20:33:20 GMT
I very much want to get myself a portable computer and run NEXTSTEP on it.
That being said, I also want this system to be as nice on my desktop as my
NeXTStation Turbo Color is (or at least as a NeXTStation Color). It would
seem to be that the solution would be a laptop computer that uses Local-bus
based video, or can be mated to a docking station that uses Local Bus. (I
would be willing to use 640x480 gray scale on the road, but I've got to
have a big color screen at home and work.)
Are there any solutions out there today, or must I wait for the next
generation of machines?
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From: bryant@math.duke.edu (Robt Bryant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Shipping my NeXtStation
Summary: What is the best way?
Keywords: shipping, insurance, advice
Message-ID: <25130@news.duke.edu>
Date: 10 Dec 93 21:01:57 GMT
Sender: news@news.duke.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept of Math, Duke Univ, Durham, NC, USA
I am about to move to Berkeley for six months and will be in
a place that doesn't have a NeXt available for me to use, although
they are wired for Ethernet and have an Internet connection. I
am considering shipping my NeXtStation 040 out there for the duration.
Of course, I will have to ship it back as well if I do this.
My question is: Is this a good idea? I have all of the
original boxes and packing material for the slab, monitor, printer,
and keyboard and can pack the components into these without any
trouble. I can make sure that it is backed up fully before I ship
it out. Has anyone had experiences (good or bad) with any of the
shippers that I might use, like DHL, FedEx, UPS, etc.? Of course
I want to insure it to replacement value (assuming that I even can
get a NeXtStation anymore ("used" of course)). Since it is a black
and white "classic" monitor and I only have a 400 Mb hard disk, how
much should I insure it for? (I am only concerned about the machine
itself since I will have backed up the data fully.)
Do any of you have any tips about the best way to pack
the components for maximum safety, etc.?
Thanks for any advice you can give. I read this newsgroup
regularly and so you can reply by the net, but if you don't want to
waste the bandwidth, you can mail me privately. If it seems useful,
I will summarize the responses for the net.
Yours,
Robert Bryant
bryant@math.duke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rbidlack@acs.ucalgary.ca (Rick Bidlack)
Subject: monitor cable question
Message-ID: <Dec10.222455.27259@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 22:24:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
I would like to extend my monitor cables (for black hardware) about eighty feet.
Does anyone have any experience doing this? Does anyone know of a source for
the 19-pin D connectors NeXT used on these cables? Does anyone perchance have
a spare monitor cable for sale, or know of a source for them?
Thanks
Rick Bidlack
Banff Centre for the Arts
rbidlack@acs.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Performance Delays w/3.2 (was: Effects of increasing CPU cache?)
Message-ID: <westesCHuDsE.ADE@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
References: <Mh28MnK00iV1421mIN@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 23:12:06 GMT
Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-Dec-93 Effects of
: increasing CPU c.. by Will Estes@netcom.com
: > I'm running NS 3.2 on a '486DX-33 with 256K of CPU cache and 16 megs
: > of main memory. I am noticing substantial delays in the system
: > between the time I double-click an application and the time that
: > the application paints its window. Is this typical for NS?
: Define "substantial"?
To follow up on my previous post about noticeable slowness running
NS 3.2, I wanted to quantify some particular events to see whether
others running similar hardware are getting similar performance
results.
When you turn on the system, how much time does it take from the
time the first grey desktop and NEXTSTEP dialog comes up to the
time the system is ready to use? It seems to take about three or
four minutes for me.
When I first login, from the time I select the Demos directory
to the time I see the executables in that directory is 14
seconds!
When I start up the molecule app, it is 44 seconds before
the application's window becomes visible!
Are these typical startup times for NS 3.2? This is with an ATI
Ultra Pro 2meg VLB card and 16 megs of system memory. I am running
1024x768x256 at 72Hz refresh. The SCSI host adapter is an Adaptec 1542,
and the disk is a Maxtor MXT-540SL FAST-SCSI-2 6300 rpm drive.
I cannot help but getting the sensation that everything
is running in slow motion. Something must be set incorrectly on my system.
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From: scotto@cica.cica.indiana.edu (Scott Ostrander)
Subject: Unix Friendly Keyboard for NeXTStation
Message-ID: <CHuF7s.9Ez@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Summary: Looking for keyboard
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Organization: CICA - Center for Innovative Computer Applications
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 23:43:04 GMT
I just purchased a used NeXTStation Colour system, which has one of the
"UNIX un-friendly" keyboards. My NeXT cube at work has a better
configuration.
1. Can I find a keyboard which is UNIX friendly for the NeXTStation?
2. If there is such a best, anyone selling one?
3. Or does anyone know where to find one?
Thanks in advance.
Scott Ostrander
scotto@cica.indiana.edu
From: oldenbrg@bozo.scs.uiuc.edu (Kurt Oldenburg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: External floppy drives
Date: 11 Dec 1993 00:26:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Message-ID: <2eb43c$71@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
My research group has a NeXT that we got got for a great price.
The problem we have is that there isn't a floppy disk drive and we
need one to install some software. Could anybody recommend an external
3.5" drive and where I could order one from?
--
Kurt Oldenburg | "I can't remember anything
| Can't tell if this is true or dream
| Deep down inside I feel to scream
oldenbrg@bozo.scs.uiuc.edu | This terrible silence stops me..." --Metallica
From: tcollins@cisco.com (Tracy Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Media Errors and Format
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 10 Dec 1993 22:11:42 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems
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References: <1993Dec03.194420.18278@dcc.uchile.cl>
Christian Bliek (cbliek@dcc.uchile.cl) wrote:
: Hi,
:
: I have a NeXTStation Turbo with a Seagate ST1280 internal (239 MBytes 1.5 years
: old) which is giving me MEDIA ERRORS (tries to read each block 9 times and then
: gives up). When I boot from CD-rom and format it (with disk -F or /usr/etc/sdform
: with 3.0 and/or 3.1) it says it's happy, but after having installed the software,
: the problem starts again.
:
: I suspect that it is able to write correctly, but that the data ``fades out'' so
: that when read the error checks find inconsistencies ...
:
: Any clues out there, in particular:
:
: Is there a better format facility available, that does surface checking?
: (the disk -T doesn't seem to work in 3.1)
:
: Is it possible that my disk is fine and that this is the result of problems in my
: power supply or controller?
:
: Thanks for your help,
:
: Christian Bliek. (cbliek@dcc.uchile.cl)
Hello Christian,
I have a NeXTStation with a Seagate drive (400 M), and I have the same problems.
I suspect that it's the drive or the disk controller. I haven't isolated the
problem yet, as I will be getting a 1G drive (when I have the $$).
I don't think that Seagate makes the most reliable drives.
tracy
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: HP Gecko.... What's the time line
Date: 11 Dec 1993 01:30:01 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2eb7qp$3or@fermat.mayo.edu>
This weeks PCWeek announced that Gecko is th PA for NS/FPAP.
What's the word on this other than it's a $4000 box with
16mb, 256mb disk, networking and scsi (and some builtins
for mpeg and jpeg work _on the cpu_).
The article made it sound that HPUX10 would be the first
OS on the box, then a speel about NT being ported and then
"NeXTSTEP [...] sometime in 1994"
Is that it? This is the savior NeXT-RISC box?
When is this box going to hit the streets? When is
NeXTSTEP going to be allowed on the box? Will Xox scream
on the box? Important questions, all of them.
--
- Geoff
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
From: chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Viper Supported?
Date: 11 Dec 1993 03:10:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside
Message-ID: <2ebdnh$dis@galaxy.ucr.edu>
References: <2ea1ni$2mi@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
David Geary (david.geary@mccaw.com) wrote:
: Can NS run with the Viper? (Please say yes)
Maybe next year!
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: Anybody looking for MO cartridges?
Date: 11 Dec 1993 03:48:06 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2ebftm$ce@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <2eakhi$1ui@transfer.stratus.com>
In article <2eakhi$1ui@transfer.stratus.com>,
Dave_Jepson <djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com> wrote:
>Sometimes you never know who's on the other end of the phone when you answer
>it!
>I received a phone call from a representative from Cannon who got my name
>from someone who .... (you know the rest)
>
>He said that he has 4000 (yes four thousand) MO cartridges and they are
>looking for someone to take them off their hands. (this is their remaining
>inventory). And would I be interested?
>
eeek. Well, I could use a few.... but not a few thousand. Are these
double or single sided. This is a little surprising, as Cannon has
a Document Scanning and Storage system which uses this media.
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: ProAudio Sperctrum Problems
Sender: news@percy.rain.com (News maintainer)
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 03:03:31 GMT
Message-ID: <CHsttv.5FL@percy.rain.com>
I am using the ProAudio Spectrum board and I am having some problems..
What is the best configuration for it.. I am using dma 7 right now and irq
10 and it works but the sounds get cut off lots of time.. I ftp'd the
NeXTanswers for the ProAudio board and said to use dma 2,3 which I tried
and the system crashed... any ideas..
--
_____________________________
Steve Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
NeXT mail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: >32Meg sys memory w/o EISA?
Message-ID: <westesCHur1I.92q@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 03:58:30 GMT
Are there any problems using NS 3.2 with > 32 megs of system memory
if your host adapter is not an EISA card?
I know that under Netware, at least, there was a problem where an
ISA host adapter could not do DMA above 16 megs, and this would
cause system failures. Does NS use DMA to the host adapter, and if
yes does this problem also exist for NS?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Performance Delays w/3.2 (was: Effects of increasing CPU cache?)
Date: 11 Dec 1993 04:06:48 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2ebh0o$np@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <Mh28MnK00iV1421mIN@andrew.cmu.edu> <westesCHuDsE.ADE@netcom.com>
In article <westesCHuDsE.ADE@netcom.com>, Will Estes <westes@netcom.com> wrote:
>Charles William Swiger (infidel+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
>: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-Dec-93 Effects of
>: increasing CPU c.. by Will Estes@netcom.com
>
>: > I'm running NS 3.2 on a '486DX-33 with 256K of CPU cache and 16 megs
>: > of main memory. I am noticing substantial delays in the system
>: > between the time I double-click an application and the time that
>: > the application paints its window. Is this typical for NS?
>
>: Define "substantial"?
>
>To follow up on my previous post about noticeable slowness running
>NS 3.2, I wanted to quantify some particular events to see whether
>others running similar hardware are getting similar performance
>results.
>
>When you turn on the system, how much time does it take from the
>time the first grey desktop and NEXTSTEP dialog comes up to the
>time the system is ready to use? It seems to take about three or
>four minutes for me.
Less than 1 min on a 4dx2-66 with 16 megs.
>
>When I first login, from the time I select the Demos directory
>to the time I see the executables in that directory is 14
>seconds!
>
Okay, this sounds slow.
>When I start up the molecule app, it is 44 seconds before
>the application's window becomes visible!
>
Likewise.
>Are these typical startup times for NS 3.2? This is with an ATI
>Ultra Pro 2meg VLB card and 16 megs of system memory. I am running
>1024x768x256 at 72Hz refresh. The SCSI host adapter is an Adaptec 1542,
>and the disk is a Maxtor MXT-540SL FAST-SCSI-2 6300 rpm drive.
>
>I cannot help but getting the sensation that everything
>is running in slow motion. Something must be set incorrectly on my system.
>
Sounds like the "turbo" switch is off. Could also be that Builddisk didn't
correctly match drive rotation speed with geometry.
Check your hardware setup menus.
You might want to pick up NXBench and Drive Performance and run them
on your system. I get around 37 Vax Mips and NXfactor of .6 on my
4dx2-66 with an IDE drive.
Good Luck
--
Jerry S. Weiss
j-weiss@nwu.edu
Dept. Medicine, Northwestern Univ. Medical School, Chicago, Illinois
%SYSTEM-S-PHALOKTARG, Phasers Locked on Target, Ready to Fire
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: >32Meg sys memory w/o EISA?
Message-ID: <CHvIJq.DBF@demon.co.uk>
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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 13:52:37 GMT
In article <westesCHur1I.92q@netcom.com> westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
> Are there any problems using NS 3.2 with > 32 megs of system memory
> if your host adapter is not an EISA card?
>
> I know that under Netware, at least, there was a problem where an
> ISA host adapter could not do DMA above 16 megs, and this would
> cause system failures. Does NS use DMA to the host adapter, and if
> yes does this problem also exist for NS?
>
It depends on your motherboard and BIOS, older ISA motherboards cannot handle
addresses > 32MB. We have only come across 2 motherboards out of 15+ that we
tested that had problems with 32+MB
--
Regards David Knight
FFC Software and Systems Limited
351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Media Errors and Format
Message-ID: <CHvItz.DI0@demon.co.uk>
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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 13:58:47 GMT
In article <2eas6uINNluh@cronkite.cisco.com> tcollins@cisco.com (Tracy Collins)
writes:
> Christian Bliek (cbliek@dcc.uchile.cl) wrote:
> : Hi,
> :
> : I have a NeXTStation Turbo with a Seagate ST1280 internal (239 MBytes 1.5
years
> : old) which is giving me MEDIA ERRORS (tries to read each block 9 times and
then
> : gives up). When I boot from CD-rom and format it (with disk -F or
/usr/etc/sdform
> : with 3.0 and/or 3.1) it says it's happy, but after having installed the
software,
> : the problem starts again.
> :
> : I suspect that it is able to write correctly, but that the data ``fades
out'' so
> : that when read the error checks find inconsistencies ...
> :
> : Any clues out there, in particular:
> :
> : Is there a better format facility available, that does surface checking?
> : (the disk -T doesn't seem to work in 3.1)
> :
> : Is it possible that my disk is fine and that this is the result of problems
in my
> : power supply or controller?
> :
> : Thanks for your help,
> :
> : Christian Bliek. (cbliek@dcc.uchile.cl)
>
The problem with most format programmes (DOS, UNIX et al) is that they do not
do a real low-level format thus all sectors are not checked and remapped if
troublesome (if the drives firmware supports that option). There are some low
level format routines floating around the archives for certain types of drives
you chould try looking at those
--
Regards David Knight
FFC Software and Systems Limited
351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen)
Subject: Printing from a Mac using a NeXT Printer (black)
Message-ID: <CHuoJn.Mwr@pdh.com>
Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account)
Organization: PDH, Inc.
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 03:04:34 GMT
The subject says it all. What do I need to do in order to do this?
Does the Mac need Ethernet, Localtalk or just a serial connection
to the NeXT? Does the Mac need special software or will normal Mac
Postscript be printable on a NeXT? Does the NeXT special software
or can it handle printing spooling in this way?
Thanks for any light you can shed on this (I looked in the FAQs and
had no luck).
Jon Rosen
(Oh, and BTW, my mouse is up and running again - the dog is in the
dog house :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: HELP:Connection TI microWriter and NeXT!
Message-ID: <CHuM0q.JBF@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <199312090226.DAA31728@grasp.insa-lyon.fr>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 02:10:01 GMT
In article <199312090226.DAA31728@grasp.insa-lyon.fr> shim@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Kwang-Bo Shim) writes:
>Bonjour!
>
> I've a TI microWriter PS23 Laser Printer which is connected from my NeXTStation's serial port A to TI AppleTalk port through an apple printer cable (mini-din8 <-> mini-din8). [munch] TI mW do NOTHING but it displays always "Online Idle". The "/usr/adm/lpd-errs" says as follow:
>
>[munch]
>Anyone can help me ?
>Can someone specify cable connection in this case, if require?
>Do I have to use "cap60(Columbia Appletalk Packat with Mac, it works fin.
>
>All informations and any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Merci d'avance!
The cable connections required for connecting your NeXT serial port to
a printer are given on page 188 of the old Network & Systems Administration
book and on page 439 of the new (Green/Gold/Black) one. The Apple cable
doesn't hack it. However, the Apple *Image Writer* cable makes an excellent
start. Buy one, cut it in half and wire the cut end of one half to a 25-pin
D-type (conventional-RS232) connector as follows:
DIN-8 I/W cable RS-232
wire colour 25-pin D-type
Pin Signal Pin Signal
1 DTR purple 8 DCD
2 DCD green 20 DTR
3 TXD yellow 3 RXD
4 GND black 7 GND
5 RXD brown 2 TXD
6 RTS blue 5 CTS
7 <not connected>
8 CTS red 4 RTS
You have now made a NeXT Null-Modem Cable, which will connect your serial port
to a laser printer having an RS-232 connector port for its serial input.
If your printer only has a mini-DIN for its serial input, you can do a
similar thing, but you'll have to wire a mini-DIN onto the cut end, which is a
pain, and also means you'll have to consult your printer manual to discover
what pins represent the *second* set of signals in the above table.
For NeXT-to-Modem Cable, you wire it crossed over as follows:
DIN-8 I/W cable RS-232
wire colour 25-pin D-type
Pin Signal Pin Signal
1 DTR purple 8 DTR
2 DCD green 20 DCD
3 TXD yellow 3 TXD
4 GND black 7 GND
5 RXD brown 2 RXD
6 RTS blue 5 RTS
7 <not connected>
8 CTS red 4 CTS
Again, if the cut end has to go to a connector other than a D-type wired
in the standard way, you'll have to consult your manual.
Good luck wiring mini-DINs. The main advantage of the fix above is that it
avoids wiring mini-DINs. You'll need a high quality soldering iron with
a very small tip, a steady hand, and excellent eyesight. If you are not
thoroughly competent with hot tools, and wiring, you should not attempt
the job, but get a professional to do it, otherwise you may injure yourself,
or damage the machine through wrong connections or shorted pins, or
mechanically deranged plugs (many mini-DIN pins are designed to melt if
you breathe on them, which is why sticking to the preconnected, molded ones
is nice, if possible (hence the Image Writer cable!!).
Good luck! %^)
david
-----
--
david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more
voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge.
nextmail: hill@flip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware
Subject: need infomation on computer hardware
Message-ID: <CHvt10.Az9@cerc.wvu.edu>
From: hongman@cerc.wvu.edu (Guo Hongman)
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 17:38:59 GMT
Sender: news@cerc.wvu.edu (USENET News System)
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Concurrent Engineering Research Center
Firends:
Does any person know whether there is computer hardware that receive
signal from remote control, just like TV remote control, and this hardware
is programmable ?
Please email to me:
hongman@cerc.wvu.edu
Thank you in advance !
Hongman Guo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: Viper Supported?
Message-ID: <1993Dec11.201927.14410@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <2ebdnh$dis@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 20:19:27 GMT
In article <2ebdnh$dis@galaxy.ucr.edu> chi@watserv.ucr.edu (Denny Chuang)
writes:
> David Geary (david.geary@mccaw.com) wrote:
> : Can NS run with the Viper? (Please say yes)
>
> Maybe next year!
From page 15 of the 3.2 Hardware compatability guide:
Weitek Power 9000, Diamond Viper-VL, VL-Bus
See readme file included with the driver or a future version of this guide for
supported modes.
Planned Q1 94
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Subject: Does DayDream exist?
Message-ID: <1993Dec11.211433.20153@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 21:14:33 GMT
I wanted to buy the Mac ROM, stick it in my NeXT and boot my slab as a
Mac. However, nobody answers the email or phone number for DayDream given
in the NextWorld advertizement. (201-928-0420, quix@applelink.apple.com)
Is DayDream just vaporware, or does the product really exist?
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
NextMail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: harnton@world.std.com (James D Harrington)
Subject: What speed simms for Mono non-turbo Slab
Message-ID: <CHw4rp.438@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 21:52:36 GMT
Hey NeXT Mavens!
I've got to upgrade my NeXT from it's paltry 8 megs to a studly 20. I'm
wondering what the slowest chips are that will run without degrading
performance. On boot, the machine tells me it is using 100ns chips. It
strikes me that if this is the case, it would be silly to pay moe for
faster chips. Is this just an idocyncracy, or is it possible to use
faster chips. Tahnks in advance,
JH
From: carlton@darkstar.isi.edu (Mike Carlton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Unix Friendly Keyboard for NeXTStation
Date: 11 Dec 1993 11:35:15 -0800
Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute
Message-ID: <2ed7dj$ojo@darkstar.isi.edu>
References: <CHuF7s.9Ez@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
In article <CHuF7s.9Ez@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> scotto@cica.indiana.edu writes:
>I just purchased a used NeXTStation Colour system, which has one of the
>"UNIX un-friendly" keyboards. My NeXT cube at work has a better
>configuration.
>
>1. Can I find a keyboard which is UNIX friendly for the NeXTStation?
>
>2. If there is such a best, anyone selling one?
>
>3. Or does anyone know where to find one?
This hasn't come up in a while, so I thought I'd repost it.
It is possible to remap the | and \ keys to approximately their "correct"
location by putting them on shift backspace and shift-return respectively.
I wrote code to do this a couple of years ago to do this. The source code
and a remapped keyboard are available on cs.orst.edu in pub/next/sources/
next-interface/keyboardfix.tar.Z
cheers,
--mike (carlton@isi.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: Re: HP Gecko.... What's the time line
Message-ID: <jlemonCHw35M.6n5@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <2eb7qp$3or@fermat.mayo.edu>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 21:17:46 GMT
In article <2eb7qp$3or@fermat.mayo.edu> brunkhorst@mayo.edu writes:
>Is that it? This is the savior NeXT-RISC box?
>When is this box going to hit the streets? When is
>NeXTSTEP going to be allowed on the box? Will Xox scream
>on the box? Important questions, all of them.
And what about Doom? :-)
--
Jonathan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: NS FIP on Intel Pro GX in Bay Area?
Message-ID: <1993Dec11.221633.18107@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Sender: usenet@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (netnews admin account)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
References: <1993Dec7.230458.2319@leland.Stanford.EDU> <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 22:16:33 GMT
In article <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org>,
Bill Chin <bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org> wrote:
> carl@Malthus.Stanford.EDU (Carl T. Bergstrom) writes:
>
>> In particular, I am looking at the Intel Pro GX machine. From all reports
>> and spec sheets, this seems like the ideal white NextStation except for
>> the video, which is reportedly far slower than that of the Epson or Dell
>> machines.
>> [...munch]
>
> The Intel Pro GX uses the ATI Mach32 chip, one the slowest of the high
> end local bus chips. The S3 928 is much faster, and a Wingine or JAWS
> video subsystem blows the S3 away. This is assuming the ATI & S3 are
> on VESA local bus - I don't have a feel for the PCI versions. If you've
> never used a turbo color or a Wingine/JAWS machine, you might find it
> acceptable. If you have a turbo color, the Wingine/JAWS machines can
> keep up. Note that this is subjective feel, not NXBench or anything.
Yeah, totally subjective is right. I bet you're one of those that
can hear differences between high-end audio amps. If you'd care to
run and look at some benchmarks, you'd see that the Intel P/GX is
*very* close to equal to the S3-928 and Wingine in everything but
moving windows. And moving windows isn't all there is to video
performance. If you're graphing data, for example, the CPU speed
will be more critical to perceived video speed. I think your
subjective preference is all in your head. I've got the numbers
to prove it, BTW.
BTW, has anyone else noticed that the windows "tear" much more on a
Colorstation under 3.2 (NXBench verified it)? This indicates to me
that NeXT is trading off "window moving" performance for other aspects
of video performance -- even on black HW.
Sorry to be so strident, but this is a pet peeve of mine. Oh, and *our*
tests showed the S3-928 DEC PC to be the best overall performer by a
very slim margin. IMO, your "blows away" comments are way off the mark.
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
From: Charles William Swiger <infidel+@CMU.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Media Errors and Format
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 17:36:43 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <8h2Yhvm00iV1M4wsFE@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <CHvItz.DI0@demon.co.uk>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Dec-93 Re: Media Errors
and Format by david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
> The problem with most format programmes (DOS, UNIX et al) is that they do
> not do a real low-level format thus all sectors are not checked and
> remapped if troublesome (if the drives firmware supports that option).
> There are some low level format routines floating around the archives for
> certain types of drives you chould try looking at those.
Sort of. For SCSI devices, all the system must do is send a "FORMAT
UNIT" command to the device and the device is supposed to perform the
low-level format. There is no other way to perform a low-level format
on a SCSI disk (at least to a normal user; obviously, drive suppliers
have additional resources and information available to them). This is
performed by the sdform (8) command on NeXTs. Note that a SCSI drive is
*supposed* to maintain its bad-block list and update as appropriate when
it does a low level format, but that depends on how well written the
drive firmware was written. Also, note that there is a SCSI "REASSIGN
BLOCK" command that tries to remap a troublesome block. Take a look at
reasb (8).
-Chuck
Charles William Swiger -- CMU...*splat*! | 1. You can't fly.
--------------------------------------------+ 2. Cars are always real, even
AMS & normal mail: infidel@cmu.edu | when they're not.
Failing that: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu | 3. Police are not your friends.
NeXTmail: chuck@cswiger.slip.andrew.cmu.edu | 4. Fire burns.
From: mbecker@cs.uml.edu (Mark E. Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: Anybody looking for MO cartridges? [bulk purchase??]
Date: 11 Dec 1993 23:15:38 GMT
Organization: Still working at it..
Message-ID: <2edkaq$l4b@ulowell.uml.edu>
References: <2eakhi$1ui@transfer.stratus.com> <2ebftm$ce@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Summary: Maybe someone should coordinate a bulk purchase?
In article jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
>In article <2eakhi$1ui@transfer.stratus.com>,
>Dave_Jepson <djep@fountainhills.az.stratus.com> wrote:
>>
>>He said that he has 4000 (yes four thousand) MO cartridges and they are
>>looking for someone to take them off their hands. (this is their remaining
>>inventory). And would I be interested?
>>
>
>eeek. Well, I could use a few.... but not a few thousand.
I, too, could use a couple. Could interested parties get the name of
this salesman either via public posting or private e-mail? And I also
wish to know if they're double or single sided.
Mark Becker
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| Mark Becker <mbecker@cs.uml.edu> | #include <std.disclaimer>|
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Help! Northgate & Adaptec 1740
Message-ID: <1993Dec12.022449.6581@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <2eadlo$gp1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 02:24:49 GMT
In article <2eadlo$gp1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> zmonster@athena.mit.edu
(Eric M Hermanson) writes:
> In article <1993Dec10.033633.13785@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu
writes:
>
> >Although NeXT promised 1740 support in 3.2, they appear to have
> >defaulted on that promise, even though it's listed in the 3.2 hardware
> >guide.
>
> >What an unpleasant surprise for those of us that ordered systems based
> >on that promise.
>
> Well Nathan, given your history of lecturing people, you should know very
> well that you can't believe everything you hear or read. Could it be
> NeXT was telling you what you wanted to hear?
Indeed they were, Eric, and they even put it in print. Unlike, for
example, the fantasies you often post in these groups.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: What speed simms for Mono non-turbo Slab
Message-ID: <1993Dec12.022646.6637@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <CHw4rp.438@world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 02:26:46 GMT
In article <CHw4rp.438@world.std.com> harnton@world.std.com (James D
Harrington) writes:
>
> Hey NeXT Mavens!
>
> I've got to upgrade my NeXT from it's paltry 8 megs to a studly 20. I'm
> wondering...
Please consult the RAM FAQ posted in comp.sys.next.announce.
--
Nathan "USENET" Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Subject: Getting around NSFIP serial port problems
Message-ID: <CHwDH1.Bq7@nimno.wpa.com>
Sender: john@nimno.wpa.com (John Bartley)
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 01:00:36 GMT
From what I've read here on the net, the outlook for viable serial port
usage under NSFIP doesn't look so hot. I'm probably missing something
important here, but I was wondering if it might be possible (though
expensive) to get around the limitations by using a SCSI-connected serial
port controller. Or perhaps the serial-port-via-DSP-card approach. As far
as I know, these work on black hardware, so I'd like to know if there are
any technical reasons that they couldn't run at high speeds on white
hardware.
I'd like to have a reliable, high-speed serial connection to my Intel
hardware and it just doesn't seem like NeXT or others are being very
successful at working around the problems.
Is any of this equipment already available for white hardware? If so,
could somebody please point me in the right direction? Thanks.
John Bartley
john@wpa.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de (Wilhelm Schaefer)
Subject: Re: What speed simms for Mono non-turbo Slab
Message-ID: <1993Dec12.030152.1252@uriela.in-berlin.de>
Sender: perstoro@uriela.in-berlin.de
Organization: NeXAPP
References: <CHw4rp.438@world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 03:01:52 GMT
In article <CHw4rp.438@world.std.com> harnton@world.std.com (James D
Harrington) writes:
>
> Hey NeXT Mavens!
>
> I've got to upgrade my NeXT from it's paltry 8 megs to a studly 20. I'm
> wondering what the slowest chips are that will run without degrading
> performance. On boot, the machine tells me it is using 100ns chips. It
> strikes me that if this is the case, it would be silly to pay moe for
> faster chips. Is this just an idocyncracy, or is it possible to use
> faster chips. Tahnks in advance,
>
> JH
I guess you are right. An other point ist NOT using party checking. This
slows down a station a lot! BTW it is not very usefull anyway.
s.l.
*** perstoro ***
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: Upgrade to 3.2 broke the keyboard!
Date: 11 Dec 1993 18:11:01 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2ecuv5$3ti@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2e4qqf$2dk@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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Keywords: 3.2 nextstep keyboard
giddings@sadie.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) writes:
>I upgraded a Toshiba 4400C (20 MB RAM/200 MB HD/486-25DX) yesterday to 3.2.
>There was a little surprise: during the boot process, the CapsLock and NumLock
>lights light up and the keyboard freezes. It is useable at the pre-boot
>prompt, so it is not a hardware failure, but when the log in window comes up
>it is completely unusable.
>This configuration is listed in the 3.2 compatibility guide, so the behavior
>seems strange. It happens when booted with "config=Default" as well. It
>worked fine in 3.1.
>Any ideas as to how to fix this, or how to "downgrade" back to 3.1 would be
>appreciated.
I had exactly the same problem. A friend of mine did a little kernel
debugging, and he found the reason: some PC keyboards do not respond
quickly enough to the kernel's initialization inquiry. The fix is simply
to comment out the entire keyboard init stuff - it just works for me!
gdb mach_kernel,
x/30i 0x1812dc should show you the following:
#Adress Opcode MustBe
001812dc pushl %ebp ---> ret ($c3) nop ($90)
001812dd movl %esp,%ebp
001812df pushl %ebx
001812e0 movb $0x01,0x001caea8
001812e7 pushl $0x64
001812e9 calll _inb
001812ee addl $0x04,%esp
001812f1 testb $0x21,%al
Display the bytes with x/30b 0x1812dc, search for them with a binary editor
(e.g. emacs 19.xx or even a DOS one) and change the first two bytes of the
section to $c3 $90.
Then copy the patched mach_kernel file to the boot disk with cp (not
from Workspace Manager, which calculates the required space too big for
the boot disk). Reboot - voila!
Don't forget to substitute the patched kernel once again after installation,
because the kernel is installed from the CD, and you have to patch this one,
too. Best idea is to keep a copy of the patched kernel on a second hard disk,
from which you can easily replace the CD-ROM kernel after booting from the
boot disk.
Good luck,
Markus.
--
Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und
zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!"
-----
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Pinnacle Tahoe MO drive on a 040 NeXT-cube (NS3.2)
Date: 12 Dec 1993 07:08:55 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2eeg27$gjq@usenet.rpi.edu>
[the following, while posted by me (garance), is really
from Marcel Kunze. Please reply to him]
--------------------------------------------------------------------
I have got a 128 MB MO Pinnacle Tahoe 130 from my Mac which I want
to use with my 040 NeXT-cube (NS3.2). I have bought the drive from
Pinnacle directly. I did not manage to bring it into operation with
the NeXT. The SCSI errors I have got were in accordance to those
which have been reported for the FUJITSU M2511A. Well, I opened the
damned thing and recognized, that in deed it holds a FUJITSU drive!
To make it perfect, by switching pin 8 of SW2, the drive changes
its idendity on SCSI from "PINNACLETAHOE-130" to "FUJITSU M2511A".
Does anybody out there know, how to use a Tahoe/FUJITSU MO drive
on the NeXT (Switch setting/disktab)? Could anybody with a Tahoe
drive bought from Radiant check the drive and give a short report?
,,,
(o o)
------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------------
Marcel Kunze | marcel@tau.ep1.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
Experimentalphysik I, RUB |
D-44780 Bochum, Germany |
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From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Subject: Help!! DPT 2022 SCSI card cann't work !!
Message-ID: <1993Dec12.160747.1277@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 16:07:47 GMT
I try to install my NS 3.1 with the following configuration:
AIR EISA VL mother board with 32M RAM
DPT 2022/95 EISA SCSI card
MAXTOR 1240S: 1.2G SCSI HD
NEC CDR-84JD-1 ************** the problem may be this ...
ATI GUP rev6
but the NeXTSTEP boot disk cannot reseeting SCSI bus ...
and I find the NS 3.1 can not identify my DPT SCSI card ..
but I try to use AHA 1542B SCSI card, it works no problem ..
Does anybody use DPT 2022 with NS 3.1 ** NOW **???
Any information will be appreciated ...
Many thanks ...
Mark
From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: >32Meg sys memory w/o EISA?
Date: 12 Dec 1993 21:14:36 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <2eg1js$cl7@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <westesCHur1I.92q@netcom.com>
Will Estes (westes@netcom.com) wrote:
: Are there any problems using NS 3.2 with > 32 megs of system memory
: if your host adapter is not an EISA card?
: I know that under Netware, at least, there was a problem where an
: ISA host adapter could not do DMA above 16 megs, and this would
: cause system failures. Does NS use DMA to the host adapter, and if
: yes does this problem also exist for NS?
I'm running NS 3.2 on an ALR Evolution V Pentium ISA/VL-bus system with
40 MB RAM. No problems. NS probably uses a technique called "double buffering"
to allow DMA access for memory over 16 MB. Under NT, this technique has
a ~10% performance hit over an EISA system. A solution, of course, is to
go with VL based cards that don't use the antiquated AT DMA chips.
For example, NS will support the Bus Logic KT445S SCSI controller RSN.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
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From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Subject: 040 cube upgrades
Message-ID: <1993Dec12.231825.1766@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 93 23:18:25 GMT
I'm interested in upgrading my 030 cube to an 040. Did the availability
of 040 upgrade boards die when NeXT quit the hardware business?
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
NextMail OK
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From: sjones@netcom.com (Scott M. Jones)
Subject: Re: Help!! DPT 2022 SCSI card cann't work !!
Message-ID: <sjonesCHy6C7.I6C@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <1993Dec12.160747.1277@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 00:21:42 GMT
*** Mark Lin *** (u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw) wrote:
: I try to install my NS 3.1 with the following configuration:
:
: AIR EISA VL mother board with 32M RAM
: DPT 2022/95 EISA SCSI card
: MAXTOR 1240S: 1.2G SCSI HD
: NEC CDR-84JD-1 ************** the problem may be this ...
: ATI GUP rev6
:
: but the NeXTSTEP boot disk cannot reseeting SCSI bus ...
: and I find the NS 3.1 can not identify my DPT SCSI card ..
: but I try to use AHA 1542B SCSI card, it works no problem ..
Could this be a firmware problem? I found this in NeXTanswers #1457
(in 1457_DPT_2022_EISA_SCSI_Controller.txt):
> Some revisions of the firmware don't work with NEXTSTEP Release 3.1. All
> versions should work with NEXTSTEP Release 3.2. The versions known to work
> with Release 3.1 are labeled "005A2" or "005A5". Our testing used version
> "005A2". These version numbers are found on the chips mounted in sockets
> on the lower section of the board farthest from the external SCSI connector.
I'm putting together an Intel system for NS 3.2, and I spec'ed DPT 2022 or
2122. I hope I won't regret this. Advice?
Scott Jones
sjones@netcom.com
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From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Subject: Re: Help!! DPT 2022 SCSI card cann't work !!
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.051533.13800@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
References: <1993Dec12.160747.1277@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <sjonesCHy6C7.I6C@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 05:15:33 GMT
Scott M. Jones (sjones@netcom.com) wrote:
: Could this be a firmware problem? I found this in NeXTanswers #1457
: (in 1457_DPT_2022_EISA_SCSI_Controller.txt):
: > Some revisions of the firmware don't work with NEXTSTEP Release 3.1. All
: > versions should work with NEXTSTEP Release 3.2. The versions known to work
: > with Release 3.1 are labeled "005A2" or "005A5". Our testing used version
: > "005A2". These version numbers are found on the chips mounted in sockets
: > on the lower section of the board farthest from the external SCSI
: > connector.
I found there are two fw on the lower section of my card. One is labeled
with 005A-E, the other is 005A-0. What's wrong?
: I'm putting together an Intel system for NS 3.2, and I spec'ed DPT 2022 or
: 2122. I hope I won't regret this. Advice?
My experiment is that
DPT 2022 (FAST SCSI-2) can work with the old SCSI-1 Seagate harddisk
and Panasonic CD-ROM 533-b (SCSI-2 or SCSI-1)
But I still cann't figure out why DPT 2022 cann't work with my Maxtor
HD and NEC CDR-84JD-1 (both are SCSI-2) in NS 3.1 but *DID* work in
Windows NT.
My friend told me that the Maxtor SCSI HD often cause the problem of
compatability with SCSI card, isn't it?
So, if you use DPT EISA sesies SCSI card ( 2012, 2022 ), would you please
tell me your *fw version* and you hardware configuration.
( what kind of HD and CD-ROM used when installed )
Many thanks,
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: NS FIP on Intel Pro GX in Bay Area?
Message-ID: <bchin.755758536@news.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <1993Dec7.230458.2319@leland.Stanford.EDU> <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org> <1993Dec11.221633.18107@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 04:55:36 GMT
lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) writes:
>In article <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org>,
>Bill Chin <bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org> wrote:
>> carl@Malthus.Stanford.EDU (Carl T. Bergstrom) writes:
>>
>>> In particular, I am looking at the Intel Pro GX machine. From all reports
>>> and spec sheets, this seems like the ideal white NextStation except for
>>> the video, which is reportedly far slower than that of the Epson or Dell
>>> machines.
>>> [...munch]
>>
>> The Intel Pro GX uses the ATI Mach32 chip, one the slowest of the high
>> end local bus chips. The S3 928 is much faster, and a Wingine or JAWS
>> video subsystem blows the S3 away. This is assuming the ATI & S3 are
>> on VESA local bus - I don't have a feel for the PCI versions. If you've
>> never used a turbo color or a Wingine/JAWS machine, you might find it
>> acceptable. If you have a turbo color, the Wingine/JAWS machines can
>> keep up. Note that this is subjective feel, not NXBench or anything.
>Yeah, totally subjective is right. I bet you're one of those that
>can hear differences between high-end audio amps. If you'd care to
>run and look at some benchmarks, you'd see that the Intel P/GX is
>*very* close to equal to the S3-928 and Wingine in everything but
>moving windows. And moving windows isn't all there is to video
>performance. If you're graphing data, for example, the CPU speed
>will be more critical to perceived video speed. I think your
>subjective preference is all in your head. I've got the numbers
>to prove it, BTW.
There really is no need to be snide.
First, *which* benchmarks???
For example, for NXBench, the ATI's results were *better* than
the Wingine machines. Does this mean that the ATI's perceived
video performance is better than the Wingine's? Take a look
at the NEXTWORLD Disk to Video and Video to Video scores for
the DG, the Intel machines (in December's issue) and the two
Wingine machines. The Epson is more than *twice* as fast.
Considering what operations typically go into NEXTSTEP applications
and Display Postscript, like buffered windows and scrolling,
these numbers say a lot about why the Wingine machines feel
faster than the ATI, damn the NXBench numbers.
Second, I was addressing subjective performance, where if the
graph takes 4 minutes and 23 seconds versus 4 minutes and
55 seconds, it's still a "long" time. The original question
wasn't which machine computes a graph faster. I bet the Wingine
cousins can do NeXTTIME faster than the ATI though.
We still don't have truly meaningful ways at quantifying
NEXTSTEP "performance" on different Intel boxes. There're
just too many variables to boil down into a few numbers.
I have compared a turbo color with the ATI side by side.
Hell, for many operations, the ATI doesn't match a non-turbo color.
However, for calculations, one can start seeing a boost in performance
"underneath" the video. Scrolling is darn slow, but decompressing
the rtfd file was a hell of a lot faster. Is this video performance,
or CPU performance? What I am saying is that the Epson NX (DGX, LGI) comes
closest to duplicating the video feel of the turbo color. If that
kind of video performance isn't important for you, then don't buy it.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
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From: athos@natural.com (Rick Eames)
Subject: briggman@rock.concert.net? Where are you, dude?
Message-ID: <athos-121293155058@mac_ara_1.natural.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (News Service)
Organization: Natural Intelligence, Inc.
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 20:50:58 GMT
Someone with the address of "briggman@rock.concert.net" has posted messages
saying he sells NEXTSTEP systems. He advertises that his catalog is ready.
Over the past 6 months, I have sent him 6 message, 4 of which he has
replied to, but none of which contain this mythical "catalog."
Where are you, man and WTFO?
Rick Eames Internet: athos@natural.com
Natural Intelligence, Inc. CompuServe: 76666,2114
My Opinions are my own. AmericaOnline: EamesR
"You just can't promise something like that just to get elected if you
know there's a good chance that circumstances may overtake you."
- Bill Clinton, East Lansing MI debate, Mon Oct 19 1992
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 13 Dec 1993 00:31:46 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2eguo2$e4c@digifix.digifix.com>
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
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From: sengwil@duc.auburn.edu (William F. Seng)
Subject: Re: Formatting an external floppy NS 3.1
Message-ID: <sengwil.931212233150@lab12.duc.auburn.edu>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 05:31:50 GMT
I had the same problem formatting a disk in my PLI external drive
on my cube as well.
The cheesy solution is to substitute the /usr/etc/disk program
from a 3.0 release of NeXTStep. That's what I did, and
everythying ran hunky dory.
I just installed 3.2 on a new hard drive, and so the /usr/etc/disk
that I am now testing as I speak is the one that arrived with 3.2 .....
Will it work...?
(chomp...chomp....chomp......)
Nope
3.2 /usr/etc/disk says exactly what 3.1 /usr/etc/disk said:
/usr/etc/disk -i -h qb2 -l "WhosCalling" /dev/rsd2a
disk name: PLI SUPER FLOPPY
disk type: removable_rw_scsi
device = /dev/rsd2a block size = 512 capacity = 1 MBytes
Disk Format in progress...
***Format Complete***
writing disk label
boot block extends beyond front porch
So, it looks like I'll now implement the same fix as I did before - install
the 3.0 version of /usr/etc/disk and be happy
Hope this helps!
- Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Erik "The French Guy" Dasque
Subject: Re: Oh no.... No Adaptec 1742 driver in NS 3.2!
Message-ID: <1993Dec12.161823.1455@joker.fdn.org>
Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 16:18:23 GMT
In article <2e71nr$but@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10033@leonis.nus.sg (Tan Chee
Heng) writes:
...
> HAving the card in 1542 mode would make you lose almost all the nice
> features of the cards of being able to configure each scsi-id
> individually, extended translation for >1gig drives, 32bit EISA dma (no
> need to waste DMA channels) etc.
> I really hope that NeXT will consider writing a proper driver for this
> card soon.
I really hope that NeXT will consider writing a proper driver soon.
Ed. (Just thinking about problems people encounter with ATI Cards, Mice,
Keyboard, serial ports, SCSI tapes, SCSI cards, etc...)
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From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: cd player for Toshiba 3401
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 04:51:46 GMT
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Is there a cd player that works with the Toshiba 3401 cd cdrive.. I
noticed there was one for Motorola but not one for Intel..
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Re: Performance Delays w/3.2 (was: Effects of increasing CPU cache?)
Message-ID: <westesCHyy5I.HuB@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
References: <2ebh0o$np@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 10:22:30 GMT
Jerry Weiss (jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
: >Are these typical startup times for NS 3.2? This is with an ATI
: >Ultra Pro 2meg VLB card and 16 megs of system memory. I am running
: >1024x768x256 at 72Hz refresh. The SCSI host adapter is an Adaptec 1542,
: >and the disk is a Maxtor MXT-540SL FAST-SCSI-2 6300 rpm drive.
: >
: >I cannot help but getting the sensation that everything
: >is running in slow motion. Something must be set incorrectly on my system.
: >
: Sounds like the "turbo" switch is off. Could also be that Builddisk didn't
: correctly match drive rotation speed with geometry.
Apparently something is wrong with the motherboard. I'm getting a
Norton SI 7.0 rating of 11.7 with turbo on, and that is AT-class
performance.
: You might want to pick up NXBench and Drive Performance and run them
: on your system. I get around 37 Vax Mips and NXfactor of .6 on my
: 4dx2-66 with an IDE drive.
What's the ftp site and path for this file?
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From: hartmut@squirrel.cis.uni-muenchen.de (Hartmut Pfitzinger)
Subject: DSP-tuning possible?
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 11:41:20 GMT
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Keywords: DSP, Tuning
Hi All!
Does anybody know if it is possible to speed up the Motorola DSP56001 to
33MHz? I am very interested in doing that. Maybe there s a possibility if
the old DSP is replaced by a new faster version, or are there other
hardware restrictions that do not allow the speed-up?
What about DSP-memory-expansion?
Hartmut
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From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de(Manfred Roehr)
Subject: missing 80MB on my HD
Message-ID: <CHz0Fu.FM@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 11:11:53 GMT
Hello!
I m in great need!
On my 520 Fujitsu HD on black Station, the last weeks more and more MB
disappear in data-nirvana.
I ve checked all I!! know, all log-files etc. Also in my crontab I ve
changed the times for better regenerating, because my machine does not
run all the times.
Is there any possibility to defragment HD or ----?? Can anybody help
me, to get the MB s back, because there are just only 35MB left?
Today, when I started the machine, there were 56MB, and after an hour
only 32MB. The swap file??
Please don t forget, that I m a relative new user, the answers should
be understandable.
thanks for it
Manfred
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From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Apple CD 150 and CDPlayer
Date: 13 Dec 1993 12:07:07 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2ehltb$672@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Aren't Apple's CD-150 and the old Next CD-ROM exactly the
same hw? They sure seem to be. Then why does the black
drive work with CDPlayer, and the white no?
Thanks
L.A. Brooks
From: rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Staringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ProAudio Spectrum 16 vs Logitech Soundman 16
Date: 13 Dec 1993 12:18:38 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ehmiu$otf@email.tuwien.ac.at>
What's the difference between the PAS 16 and the Logitech Soundman 16?
I can get the Logitech for less than half the price of the PAS and the
salesdroid claims it is 100% compatible. Specifically, has anybody tried
the Logitech card under NEXTSTEP Intel?
Thanks for any info!
Rainer
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From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Charles D. Kincaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: True SIMM speed? NOT an FAQ
Date: 13 Dec 1993 14:23:55 GMT
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2ehttrINNbdt@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Hello,
This isn't, or doesn't seem to be, an FAQ, so please read on.
Also, maybe I better apologize first. See, we're going home to Kansas for
Christmas in a few days. I been so long down here in Florida that I
forgot how to talk. I'm sure y'all understand. (Doh! :-)
I recently upgraded my lifestyle by adding four 4MB SIMMS to my
older slab. Every once in a while I try to sell the four 1MB SIMMS that
came out of ol' Bessie here, which I thought were 30pin 100ns SIMMS (cf.
the FAQ) The other day a student of mine was looking at them and said
"No, these are 80ns SIMMS. See the id/serial number ends in
'80'."
Well, needless to say, I looked and sure as catfights it said 80
at the end. In fact the entire number from the back of each SIMM is
NEC MC-421000A8B-80
JAPAN 9034HD
So now, I got to scratching my head and doing me some thinking.
The FAQ says that for "NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB
002 6300" (and my brand says ABB0010542) the "SIMM access rating: [is] 100
ns".
"Hmmm," I says to myself, " '_Access_ rating'? Does this mean
that 80ns SIMMS _could_ be in there and I'd never know it?"
"Well, why don't you find out?" myself says to me.
So, there below the SIMM information it says in big bold letters
"[Kid], Faster SIMMS (70/80 ns) don't make the memory system work
any faster than the 100 ns units."
Yeeha!! So maybe these are actually 80ns SIMMS and I just never
knew it, `cause I wasn't looking. Kinda like not seeing that rattler
that's crawled into your bedroll to keep warm. Only not as important.
So, I guess my question boils down to this (do you see why it's
not an FAQ? Imagine putting all this into one little ol' FAQ.) Does the
SIMM serial number listed above mean that I have 80ns SIMMS and how much
more money can I ask for them?
Thanky for your patience and wisdom.
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Re: ProAudio + ISA in NS/I 3.2
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.143915.22184@Princeton.EDU>
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 14:39:15 GMT
In article <2e6vb6$90@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
(Markus Wenzel) writes:
> Hi,
>
> after a few days of experimenting with NS/I 3.2, I must
> state that the ProAudio does not work reliably on ISA machines.
I do not believe this is *just* an ISA/EISA question.
Sound has never frozen my ISA machine, and I know of an EISA machine
that just won't play sound at all.
On my ISA machine, I have worked with IDE and Adaptec disk systems.
The IDE config works the best --sound is clear and has never paused.
With the Adaptec, long sound files sometimes pause, and you have to
click on the player interface to resume sound (but no system crashes).
I would like to test with a DPT to see if I get better sound than the
Adaptec *and* faster disk than the IDE.
Phil
P.S. For those of you with lots of machines to worry about, ISA
machines are less time consuming to configure, in my opinion.
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From: mconlon@stat.ufl.edu (Mike Conlon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: White hardware for <$3,200?
Date: 13 Dec 1993 16:13:59 GMT
Organization: U.F. Department of Statistics
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MCONLON.93Dec13111359@holly.stat.ufl.edu>
I've been reading the compatibility guide and getting quotes from
vendors (Dell, Alpine, DEC) regarding a "mid-range" hardware config for
NEXTSTEP (definately not _top end_). I'm looking for a machine with
24 meg RAM, video for 16bit color in 1024x768, 15" monitor,
400 meg drive (IDE or SCSI), internal SCSI CD ROM, Sound.
I'm not craving speed. I was hoping this could be done with a name
brand computer for under $3,200. Currently I'm at about $3,700
(DELL Dimension XPS, 486/66).
Does anyone know of machines in this class for less $$?
--
Mike Conlon
Department of Statistics
University of Florida
From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha Rao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: $98 PAS sound card lists NExtstep as supported..
Date: 13 Dec 1993 16:47:12 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2ei6ag$n3p@menudo.uh.edu>
Yesterday, at a CompUSA computer super store, I saw the "Basic Pro Audio
Spectrum" card (ISA) for $98. At the back of the packaging, the product
listed Nextstep as one of the supported systems.
Has anybody tried this card in an ISA system? This card is different (and
cheaper) from PAS-16 and PAS-studio.
Thanks.
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University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503
Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: rcjacq@urc.tue.nl (Jacques Backus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: AMI 486DX2 66MHz board problems
Date: 13 Dec 1993 14:52:56 GMT
Organization: Computing Center, Eindhoven University of Technology
Message-ID: <rcjacq.32.0@urc.tue.nl>
I have an 486DX2 66MHz ISA motherboard with an AMI bios and a SIS chipset.
This with an Adaptec 1542C controller, Cirrus 1 MB videocard and 16 MB. I
tried to install NS 3.2 but almost at start, when the white bar appears
in top of the screen, my keyboard locks. What to do?
Any help would be very welcome.
Jacques.
Jacques Backus Internet: rcjacq@urc.tue.nl
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From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: NS FIP on Intel Pro GX in Bay Area?
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.175022.10123@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
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References: <1993Dec7.230458.2319@leland.Stanford.EDU> <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org> <1993Dec11.221633.18107@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <bchin.755758536@news.andi.org>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 17:50:22 GMT
In article <bchin.755758536@news.andi.org>,
Bill Chin <bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org> wrote:
> lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch) writes:
>
>> In article <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org>,
>> Bill Chin <bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The Intel Pro GX uses the ATI Mach32 chip, one the slowest of the high
>>> end local bus chips. The S3 928 is much faster, and a Wingine or JAWS
>>> video subsystem blows the S3 away. This is assuming the ATI & S3 are
>>> on VESA local bus - I don't have a feel for the PCI versions. If you've
>>> never used a turbo color or a Wingine/JAWS machine, you might find it
>>> acceptable. If you have a turbo color, the Wingine/JAWS machines can
>>> keep up. Note that this is subjective feel, not NXBench or anything.
>>
>> Yeah, totally subjective is right. I bet you're one of those that
>> can hear differences between high-end audio amps. If you'd care to
>> run and look at some benchmarks, you'd see that the Intel P/GX is
>> *very* close to equal to the S3-928 and Wingine in everything but
>> moving windows. And moving windows isn't all there is to video
>> performance. If you're graphing data, for example, the CPU speed
>> will be more critical to perceived video speed. I think your
>> subjective preference is all in your head. I've got the numbers
>> to prove it, BTW.
>
> There really is no need to be snide.
OK, sorry, let me be less snide, but more insistent in my assertion
that your advice is misleading at best and just flat wrong at worst.
> First, *which* benchmarks???
> For example, for NXBench, the ATI's results were *better* than
> the Wingine machines. Does this mean that the ATI's perceived
> video performance is better than the Wingine's?
First, my NXBench scores did not show the Wingine (specifically
the eCesys) to be lower than my Intel P/GX. In fact, the Wingine
won every category in NXBench by about 5%, with the last category which
tests the speed of moving a window and hiding/unhiding it showing
a 230% advantage for the Wingine.
So the only area where the Wingine *blows away* the Intel P/GX is
in moving a window on-screen, and hiding/unhiding a window. Otherwise,
the performance difference is minimal.
> Take a look at the NEXTWORLD Disk to Video and Video to Video scores
> for the DG, the Intel machines (in December's issue) and the two
> Wingine machines. The Epson is more than *twice* as fast.
I took a look. I agree that the VRAM-to-VRAM video speed is much
better for the Wingine. But where does that advantage really show up
in real use? Moving windows. Their DRAM-to-VRAM (not Disk-to-Video
BTW) test is flakey IMO. They have never stated exactly what they are
doing for that part of the benchmark, and frankly the only thing I
think they are testing is the speed of hiding/unhiding a window.
Again, this falls into the "moving and hiding/unhiding a window" area
of the NXBench tests, which was the only area to show a significant
advantage for the Wingine.
> Considering what operations typically go into NEXTSTEP applications
> and Display Postscript, like buffered windows and scrolling,
> these numbers say a lot about why the Wingine machines feel
> faster than the ATI, damn the NXBench numbers.
The NeXTWorld video benchmarks say alot about how fast windows can be
moved and unhidden, but very little about real world use as it relates
to perceived video speed.
> Second, I was addressing subjective performance, where if the
> graph takes 4 minutes and 23 seconds versus 4 minutes and
> 55 seconds, it's still a "long" time. The original question
> wasn't which machine computes a graph faster.
I don't follow you here. Do you forget that before you can scroll
something, you must first draw it? If I have, for example, a complex
graph in Mesa, a complicated 3-D scene in 3-D Reality, or a text file
containing graphics then the rendering speed will be a much larger
percentage of the time needed for display. So if my CPU can render any
of these to the off-screen buffer 2 times faster than my 25 MHz
Colorstation, then I perceive much improved video performance. I want
to shave that 4 minutes to 2 minutes, not cut 0.2 seconds on how fast
it may get flushed to the screen.
> I bet the Wingine cousins can do NeXTTIME faster than the ATI though.
I bet NOT. Maybe marginally faster, but not 2 or 3 times faster. How
does the new version of Movie.app compare between the machines? It
runs pretty darn well on my Intel P/GX. It seems to me that Movie.app
is a very critical test of the DRAM-to-VRAM speed, and I don't
think you'll see a 2 or 3 times speed-up on Wingine video.
> We still don't have truly meaningful ways at quantifying
> NEXTSTEP "performance" on different Intel boxes. There're
> just too many variables to boil down into a few numbers.
I agree. For *video* performance, I think NXBench does a much better
job than NeXTWorld of trying to quantify that difference. Take a look
at the range of results NeXTWorld is publishing. I simply don't see such
disparity in real world use or in any benchmarks I run -- other than
when moving and unhiding windows.
I also get a description of what operations are used in NXBench -- not
so with the NeXTWorld benchmarks. I think BenchPress is even better,
but I can't find it on the archives. (Can someone point me to it?)
> I have compared a turbo color with the ATI side by side.
> Hell, for many operations, the ATI doesn't match a non-turbo color.
> However, for calculations, one can start seeing a boost in performance
> "underneath" the video. Scrolling is darn slow, but decompressing
> the rtfd file was a hell of a lot faster. Is this video performance,
> or CPU performance?
I have compared a non-turbo Colorstation, turbo Colorstation, an ATI,
an S3-928, and a Wingine side by side and disagree. Scrolling is not
darn slow. All my benchmarks show that compositing performance (which
is by far the most common operation used when scrolling) is only
slightly slower for the ATI as compared to the turbo, S3, and Wingine
-- and is measurably faster than a non-turbo in almost every area. My
subjective experience with Librarain, Xoxeroids %^), and my company's
own internal benchmarking for our mission-critical apps supports that
conclusion. And other than for moving and hiding/unhiding windows,
there isn't a nickel's worth of difference in video performance
between the various LB DX2/66 PCs. (JAWS notwithstanding, I haven't
used or tested a JAWS machine).
> What I am saying is that the Epson NX (DGX, LGI) comes closest to
> duplicating the video feel of the turbo color. If that kind of video
> performance isn't important for you, then don't buy it.
If moving and unhiding windows is your overwhelming concern, then I
agree. If, however, waiting an extra 0.2 or 0.3 seconds for those
things to occur isn't a big deal for you, and waiting an extra 2
minutes for something in Diagram!2 to draw is -- then your subjective
preference isn't so important. Given I can select from a LocalBus ATI,
Wingine, or S3 machine, then CPU performance, RAM, SCSI performance,
expansion bus, integration, vendor support, and *price* become more
important factors for myself. If the Wingine and JAWS satisfy you for
those factors as well, then great.
--
Michael McCulloch
michael@hsv.tybrin.com (NextMail Accepted!)
Huntsville, Alabama
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: frank_m@sat.mot.com (Mark Frank)
Subject: Configuration for Compax Deskpro M
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.171018.5674@sat.mot.com>
Sender: usenet@sat.mot.com (Usenet Accoun)
Organization: Motorola Inc. - Satellite Communications
References: <CHsttv.5FL@percy.rain.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 17:10:18 GMT
Can anyone give me a minimum configuration on a Deskpro M. Nextanswers is not available yet, and I need to order in a hurry. In particular, do I need to order a SCSI card with it, and what about the hard disk.
- Thanks, Mark
frank_m@sat.mot.com
From: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cable for laserjet 4m
Date: 13 Dec 1993 14:19:57 -0600
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin; Milwaukee Wisconsin
Message-ID: <2eiipd$aqa@post.its.mcw.edu>
From: rmorris@post.its.mcw.edu (Robert Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: cable for laserjet 4m
Date: 13 Dec 1993 14:24:54 -0600
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin; Milwaukee Wisconsin
Message-ID: <2eij2m$b42@post.its.mcw.edu>
I am trying to use a laserjet with black hardware and a driver I got from
the archive site. I usually get postscript errors. I recently read that
this is a function of the pin configuration and a special cable is
required. Is this true? Can I buy the correct cable? If so, where? If
not, how do I make one?
Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: Re: ProAudio Spectrum 16 vs Logitech Soundman 16
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.205101.14967@uwasa.fi>
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
References: <2ehmiu$otf@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 20:51:01 GMT
In article <2ehmiu$otf@email.tuwien.ac.at> rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at writes:
>
>What's the difference between the PAS 16 and the Logitech Soundman 16?
>I can get the Logitech for less than half the price of the PAS and the
>salesdroid claims it is 100% compatible. Specifically, has anybody tried
>the Logitech card under NEXTSTEP Intel?
Logitech has no SCSI-support. But it is not needed because NS/FIP
doesn't support it anyway. Logitech works but PAS driver is no DSP...
>Thanks for any info!
>
> Rainer
>--
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>Financial Markets Lab, TU Vienna | +43 (1) 58801/8138
-harri-
--
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///// Telephone: +358 61 317 3365 fax: +358 61 317 3025
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Enabling BIOS shadow RAM w/NS 3.2?
Message-ID: <westesCHzw7H.yx@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 22:38:05 GMT
I'm curious how many people here enable either system or video BIOS
shadow RAM with NS 3.2? In my own case, I had to turn off the video
BIOS shadow RAM on my NICE Super-EISA board because the NS 3.2
hangs. I am using an ATI Ultra Pro 2meg VLB card. I turned off the
system BIOS shadow RAM since I thought NS 3.2 would not need to use it
once it was running and it probably could use the shadow RAM for
other things. But turning off the system BIOS shadow RAM makes the
system boot very, very slowly.
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
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From: bjanzen@lexmark.com
Subject: TokenExpress troubles - anyone else had any success?
Sender: usenet@lexmark.com
Message-ID: <16CA31182B.BJANZEN@lexmark.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 00:55:22 GMT
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington, KY
Yes, I RTFM's and made all the calls, and no luck. Is anyone else using this
card, or am I the first one on the planet? Interesting note - I'm not 100%
convinced NS would work even if the card worked - in Setup my Network is
setup as Intel TokenExpress, but the console says it's trying en0 during Simple
Network Starter. What gives?
Barry "the glutton for punishment" Janzen
(as opposed to Wyoming "glutton for mutton" Ranchers)
bjanzen@lexmark.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Folke Edman)
Subject: Re: cd player for Toshiba 3401
In-Reply-To: steve@eps.RAIN.COM's message of Sun, 12 Dec 1993 04:51:46 GMT
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Dec13232530@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CHwo6B.Hn2@percy.rain.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 04:25:29 GMT
In article <CHwo6B.Hn2@percy.rain.com> steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich) writes:
Is there a cd player that works with the Toshiba 3401 cd cdrive.. I
noticed there was one for Motorola but not one for Intel..
The current play3401 will not work with Intel because of byte order
differences. Those would be relatively easily fixed, but I'd hate to
release the changes without testing them and as currently I have no
NS/FIP system with a Toshiba 3401, that's that. If someone has (as
I'm sure someone has) made the essentially trivial changes and tested
them I'd be perfectly happy to integrate them into the package.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Subject: Re: NS FIP on Intel Pro GX in Bay Area?
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.221546.532@dart.de>
Sender: wbeeck@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 22:15:46 GMT
In article <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
writes:
> The Intel Pro GX uses the ATI Mach32 chip, one the slowest of the high
> end local bus chips. The S3 928 is much faster, and a Wingine or JAWS
> video subsystem blows the S3 away.
For color graphics I'm using an Intel Professional GX now, after using a NeXT
Colorstation for 2 years. The Intel Pro GX feels faster, especially with
NEXTSTEP 3.2
Regarding JAWS I would be concerned about its future support. I think it is a
proprietary design which is not even supported by Dell anymore. I'm not sure
about the success of Wingine either. To me it looks like the ATI and S3
chipsets are pretty much standard for many high end video boards today.
Intel is using an onboard ATI chip for their new PCI Pentium board, called
Premiere PCI LPX. It is nearly twice as fast as the current ATI chip on the GX
(> 50 million winmarks vs. 30 million winmarks). Which means that it can
probably move windows faster around than I can move my mouse.
Wilfried Beeck
d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kapela@poly.edu (Theodore S. Kapela)
Subject: BusLogic 747 and Toshiba 3401 w/NSIP
Message-ID: <CI0EAJ.s7@poly.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 05:08:43 GMT
A short while ago, I tried to install NS/IP on my 486 box with not much
success. I was able to get to the point where the Mach kernel tries
to read the CDROM. I then got errors about "load of /etc/init failed".
The CD drive light came on briefly before these messages. I have
verified the disc is clean (apparently some were shipped with
an oily film on them), and have tried various SCSI ids.
The motherboard is a Mylex 486/33 EISA (in a Northgate tower).
The SCSI card is a BusLogic 747s, and the CD ROM drive is
a Toshiba 3301 (The older, single speed version of the 3401), which is
borrowed. I am ready to purchase my own drive, but I want to
verify that the 3401 and the Buslogic 747 work together
under NS/IP. If this does not solve the problem (I need a cdrom
in any case), I can check cabling, board settings, etc, once
again afterwards.
Thanx in advantz for your replies,
-Ted K.
--
Theodore S. Kapela
Center for Applied Large-Scale Computing
Polytechnic University
kapela@poly.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Erik "The French Guy" Dasque
Subject: Re: ProAudio Spectrum 16 vs Logitech Soundman 16
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.141007.4767@joker.fdn.org>
Sender: ed@joker.fdn.org (Erik Dasque)
Organization: French Guy Corp. - Paris, France.
References: <2ehmiu$otf@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 14:10:07 GMT
In article <2ehmiu$otf@email.tuwien.ac.at> rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer
Staringer) writes:
>
> What's the difference between the PAS 16 and the Logitech Soundman 16?
> I can get the Logitech for less than half the price of the PAS and the
> salesdroid claims it is 100% compatible. Specifically, has anybody tried
> the Logitech card under NEXTSTEP Intel?
>
> Thanks for any info!
>
> Rainer
> --
> Rainer Staringer | rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at
> Financial Markets Lab, TU Vienna | +43 (1) 58801/8138
As far as I know, they are the same. The Logitech Soundman 16 is an OEM.
That's why NeXT claims there is a driver for the Soundman, it is exactly
the same as the one for the PAS-16. It's not worse, and unfortunately,
it's not better...
Ed.
--
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ed@joker.fdn.org "Microsoft doesn't exist."
From: ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: cd player for Toshiba 3401
Date: Tue, 14 DEC 93 02:20:02 EST
Organization: Delphi Internet
Message-ID: <931214.08402.ECESYS@delphi.com>
References: <CHwo6B.Hn2@percy.rain.com> <CEDMAN.93Dec13232530@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
Carl:
We are shipping systems with 3401's that work just fine with CDPlayer.app
and can at the same time play and record sound from our bundled
Sound solution.
CD-ROMS will fail with certain combinations of hardware adn CDPlayer, but
it is possible to get a system functioning!
martin Fossum
From: ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: White hardware for <$3,200?
Date: Tue, 14 DEC 93 02:27:43 EST
Organization: Delphi Internet
Message-ID: <931214.08863.ECESYS@delphi.com>
References: <MCONLON.93Dec13111359@holly.stat.ufl.edu>
The eCesys system is in your range with high-end graphics speed,
good sound , and a nice 17" monitor for $3500.
E-mail a fax and we'll get our 1/1/94 Price list and configs to you.
^number
Martin Fossum
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: james@melblanc.kau1.kodak.com (James Gardiner)
Subject: 32 bit graphics on Intel hardware?
Message-ID: <CI0Ep3.39A@melblanc.kau1.kodak.com>
Organization: Kodak (Australasia) Pty Ltd
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 05:17:27 GMT
Would anyone know if it is possible to get 32 bit/24 bit graphics
on Intel hardware as yet? And if so how and where can I buy it???
How much does it cost?
The Dimond Viper card is suppose to be supported soon.
What resolutions will be supported? How many bit plains?
Thanks,
james
--
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Kodak (Australasia) Pty Ltd FAX : (+61 3) 353 2987 \_.--._/
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From: jim@nestmoi.rain.com (Jim Chorn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Is there magic needed for the Toshiba MK538FB drive to function?
Message-ID: <1993Dec12.185951.1026@nestmoi.rain.com>
Date: 12 Dec 93 18:59:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: nestmoi.1993Dec12.185951.1026
Organization: none - Portland, OR
Hi, I'm trying to get a Toshiba MK538FB drive to function on my
NeXT-Station running v2.1 and I'm not having much luck. The drive
acts normal until I try to use it ;-( I get the following errors
at random times on random block addresses:
mach: sd0 (0,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
mach: sd0 (0,0): sense key:0x4 additional sense code:0x15
or
mach: sd0 (0,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
mach: sd0 (0,0): sense key:0x4 additional sense code:0x15
or
mach: sd0 (0,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:7 scsi status:0x0
Just before this occurs the drive makes an abnormal squeal and then
sounds like it is doing a full recalibration (like a SCSI reset
just occurred). The big problem here is that this problem occurs
with regularity such that I can get paging errors which stop the
system dead or lossed data on large data movements.
FYI, I formatted it up with 1k sectors and there where no errors
reported during the reformat.
Is there some special firmware I need to get? The drive claims to
function with Sun, Dos, and Apple.
Suggestions on what to do next?
tia,
-jim jim@nestmoi.rain.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: richard@amber.demon.co.uk (Richard Frith)
Subject: Re: AMI Motherboards
Distribution: world
References: <CHsGxJ.1ou@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Organization: Brainstorm
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 11:41:59 +0000
Message-ID: <755869319snz@amber.demon.co.uk>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
I now have 3.1 running on an enterprise-IV EISA/VLB board using ATI GUP VLB,
AMI Fast Disk-F EISA caching SCSI controller (1542 driver). The only problems
I have had seem to be down to the Operating system not knowing how to flush
the cache on a reboot - I need to shut down and wait several seconds before
rebooting or turning the power off. I bought the AMI controller because it
is much cheaper than the DPT.
--
Richard Frith
From: chris@sucre.unice.fr (Taggiasco Christian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Kortex modem Card with NSI
Date: 14 Dec 1993 14:14:36 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Message-ID: <2ekhoc$2uf@taloa.unice.fr>
Does anyone know if it 's possible to use the Kortex modem
card KXPRO 2400 with Next Step Intel, or if there is a problem to
install and drive it.
Please answer to chris@doublon.unice.fr
Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: smeester@antares (Eric Smeesters)
Subject: IO sound machine
Message-ID: <1993Dec14.144634.3181@info.ucl.ac.be>
Keywords: HIFI, IO sound, ...
Sender: news@info.ucl.ac.be (News Administrator)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Catholic University of Louvain
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 14:46:34 GMT
Hi everybody,
My NeXTstation (20/400) has to become an IO sound
machine. It should be able to record from classical
CD's and make any sound processing.
Are there specific software/hardware tools?
Is it possible to connect easy a classical
HIFI amplifier to the DSP!?
Any advice is welcome
Thanks
Eric Smeesters
UCL Telecommunications and Remote Sensing Lab. Belgium
email : smeesters@tele.ucl.ac.be
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Folke Edman)
Subject: Re: cd player for Toshiba 3401
In-Reply-To: ecesys's message of Tue, 14 DEC 93 02:20:02 EST
Message-ID: <CEDMAN.93Dec14114455@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
References: <CHwo6B.Hn2@percy.rain.com> <CEDMAN.93Dec13232530@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
<931214.08402.ECESYS@delphi.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 16:44:55 GMT
In article <931214.08402.ECESYS@delphi.com> ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com> writes:
We are shipping systems with 3401's that work just fine with CDPlayer.app
and can at the same time play and record sound from our bundled
Sound solution. CD-ROMS will fail with certain combinations of
hardware and CDPlayer, but it is possible to get a system functioning!
No doubt about it. But then that was not what I was refering to. I
was refering to a program which actually reads CD digitally, and
transfers the digital samples to the host system via the SCSI bus
without any extra hardware. Play3401 does this just fine with
Motorola systems (and I suspect all big-endian machines), but not yet
with Intel (or other little-endian machines).
Already setting up a little store of vitriol for the first person to
reply to this post by saying "but that's illegal ! So there is no CD
ROM player which can do that !",
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tmeyer@il.us.swissbank.com (Tom Meyer)
Subject: breaking into nmi / ROM monitor in NS/FIP 3.2
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.221434.17450@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 22:14:34 GMT
I recently installed 3.2 on my machine at home with the following
configuration:
Alpine NXStation DX2/66Mhz
36 MB RAM
ATI GUP 2MB VRAM
101 Key PS2-style Keyboard
BusLogic 542 SCSI adapter
Sony 17" Color Monitor
Micropolis 1542 1.5GB HD
Everything works great (thanks Kris Magnussen!), but I can't figure out
how to break into the ROM monitor at boot or to the NMI monitor when
running. I know the command-command-~ and alt-command-~ stuff. I did
switch the left control and caps-lock keys (and made the other control key
the help key), but it didn't work before I switched them either.
any ideas?
-tom
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/* and mine alone. */
/* */
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From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: #9GXE video
Message-ID: <EA4JBF5V@math.fu-berlin.de>
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 20:00:54 GMT
Is anyone using the #9GXE video card with Nextstep 3.2? How is the performance?
Where did you get the card (I've seen a GXE LocalBus for as low as $299)?
Sounds like it is maybe the cheapest route for Nextstep in color? If someone
knows of a cheaper way to get 1024 x 768 color Nextstep, I'd like to hear
about that as well.
--
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From: rnielsen@everest.com (Robert D. Nielsen)
Subject: Buying a NeXT Certified System PC
Message-ID: <CI0AoC.9Ju@pdh.com>
Followup-To: rnielsen@everest.com (Robert D. Nielsen)
Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account)
Organization: PDH, Inc.
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 03:50:35 GMT
Greetings All,
It is the end of an era for me. I owned a 030 cube, upgraded to to an
040, sold it and bought a mono station. I have a buyer for it, so now it
is time to take the plunge. I am going to buy (gasp) a PC. I need to
make the purchase by the purchase before December 24.
I am only interested in a NeXT Certified System. What is a NeXT Certified
System? Read on...
Certified System - These are PC-compatible systems that have been
thoroughly tested by NeXT for the highest level of compatibility with
NEXTSTEP.
As opposed to
Listed System - These are PC-compatible systems that have been tested by
NeXT or a third party and reported to be compatibility with NEXTSTEP.
The Certified System vendors are Compaq, Data General, DEC, Dell, Epson,
Hewlett-Packard, NCR, and NEC.
I am a software engineer, so I need a loaded machine (32M RAM, 1G hard
disk). I think 16 bit color will suffice, but I would consider 32 bit
color if the price were right. Performance and reliability are a must.
It also must have a network interface (ideally both thin net and twisted
pair).
I may be able to get *one* Sony monitor at employee discount directly from
Sony since I did some consulting there. Does anyone recommend a
particular Sony monitor?
Also, I am interested to know if people are buying low end machines and
upgrading them for less (like I did with my NeXT station:-)
Any advice on purchasing the above would be appreciated. If you have
good/bad experiences with any of the above systems, please comment.
Cheers,
Robert D. Nielsen
rnielsen@everest.com
From: jtod@access.digex.net (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Is there magic needed for the Toshiba MK538FB drive to function?
Date: 14 Dec 1993 22:30:34 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
Message-ID: <2eleqa$ga6@news1.digex.net>
References: <1993Dec12.185951.1026@nestmoi.rain.com>
Jim Chorn (jim@nestmoi.rain.com) wrote:
: Hi, I'm trying to get a Toshiba MK538FB drive to function on my
: NeXT-Station running v2.1 and I'm not having much luck. The drive
: acts normal until I try to use it ;-( I get the following errors
: at random times on random block addresses:
: mach: sd0 (0,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
: mach: sd0 (0,0): sense key:0x4 additional sense code:0x15
: or
: mach: sd0 (0,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
: mach: sd0 (0,0): sense key:0x4 additional sense code:0x15
: or
: mach: sd0 (0,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:7 scsi status:0x0
: Just before this occurs the drive makes an abnormal squeal and then
: sounds like it is doing a full recalibration (like a SCSI reset
: just occurred). The big problem here is that this problem occurs
: with regularity such that I can get paging errors which stop the
: system dead or lossed data on large data movements.
: FYI, I formatted it up with 1k sectors and there where no errors
: reported during the reformat.
: Is there some special firmware I need to get? The drive claims to
: function with Sun, Dos, and Apple.
: Suggestions on what to do next?
Yep, I sure do. Sell that Toshiba and buy a new drive. I've got an
MK538FB and have been extremely unhappy with it. The first one I had
crashed, the repaired one they sent me was bad, and the third drive I
currently have it giving me bad blocks (a new one every day!) Toshiba at
first was very unhelpful in fixing my drive - it took 7 weeks to repair
the first one. The second one I sent back, Toshiba gave me an advance
replacement, which is what it should have done in the first place.
If you are having problems with your Toshiba drive, call Kim Kort at
Toshiba @714/583-3129. She is quite helpful and will smooth the process
along. Her helpfullness has been Toshiba's only saving grace. I will
*never* purchase another Toshiba product, and will certainly not advise
that anyone else purchase their products. If you have one, back up
frequently and keep the service # handy.
--
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Subject: Re: $98 PAS sound card lists NExtstep as supported..
Message-ID: <1993Dec14.234707.11035@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Sender: news@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (NetNews)
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
References: <2ei6ag$n3p@menudo.uh.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 23:47:07 GMT
Jagannatha Rao (rao@tree.egr.uh.edu) wrote:
: Yesterday, at a CompUSA computer super store, I saw the "Basic Pro Audio
: Spectrum" card (ISA) for $98. At the back of the packaging, the product
: listed Nextstep as one of the supported systems.
: Has anybody tried this card in an ISA system? This card is different (and
: cheaper) from PAS-16 and PAS-studio.
Yes, I tried it for some days on my machine running 3.1 and equipped with
ISA board and Adaptec. It worked as well as you can expect from the combo:
The sound was quite well, as far as it lasted. As known for this combo
(see NeXTanswers for PAS16) the Adaptec 'knocked out' the PAS16 under heavy
disk traffic, resulting in deep silence until the next reboot. But I
noticed no system crashes.
The Basic is - as far as I know - the Studio without the SCSI controller.
The Spectrum itself has an older layout (and is said to sound somewhat
better (??) then the new ones). Btw, the NEXTSTEP PAS16 driver makes an
difference between Spectrum and Studio. There seems to be no difference in
performance under NEXTSTEP.
The fact that MediaVision lists the NEXTSTEP drivers on the package is
positive, but from all what I've heard it's nearly impossible to use any
one of then if you have an ISA board and an Adaptec. As sad as this is,
the only point seems to be to look for an MS Sound System or compatible
card. This seems to work... ;-)
Gregor
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From: sbender@MGN.DUS.Mountain.Net (Scott Bender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need Help with ProAudio 16 Setup
Date: 15 Dec 1993 00:51:52 GMT
Organization: Harmony Data Systems
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Help with ProAudio Spectrum 16 running with an Adaptech 1740 or 1540.
NeXSTEP 3.2 fails to boot with the Spectrum 16 installed in the machine.
I get SCSI bus timeouts. I'd say that there is hardware conflit with the
Adaptech card. Anyone seen this problem?
Hardware:
Northgate 486/50 EISA with an Adaptec 1740 running in standard mode,
and an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA.
The card works fine under Windows 3.1 and DOS.
Thanks,
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Help with ProAudio Spectrum 16 running with an Adaptech 1740 or 1540.
NeXSTEP 3.2 fails to boot with the Spectrum 16 installed in the machine.
I get SCSI bus timeouts. I'd say that there is hardware conflit with the
Adaptech card. Anyone seen this problem?
Hardware:
Northgate 486/50 EISA with an Adaptec 1740 running in standard mode,
and an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA.
The card works fine under Windows 3.1 and DOS.
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From: ramesh@cs.mcgill.ca (Ramesh SOMALINGAM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT Dimension
Date: 15 Dec 1993 02:16:55 GMT
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2els2n$qb2@homer.cs.mcgill.ca>
Our colour NeXT monitor died a couple of weeks ago, so we have a NeXT
Dimension board without a screen - has anyone out there managed to hook up a
Sun colour monitor to the NeXT dimension? I'd appreciate any info anyone could
give me about this (type of Sun monitor, the type of cables used, etc).
Thanks in advance.
--
Ramesh Somalingam School of Computer Science
Email: ramesh@cs.mcgill.ca McGill University
Tel : (514) 398-5923 Montreal, Canada
From: mbecker@cs.uml.edu (Mark E. Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Are the MO drives really ESDI ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 15 Dec 1993 04:31:46 GMT
Organization: UMass-Lowell
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Summary: MO drives and ESDI ?
Keywords: MO ESDI drives
There was a comment in comp.sys.next.marketplace that the MO drive in
some NeXT cubes uses an ESDI interface. Can someone confirm this?
Now for the really neophyte question: suppose I plug an ESDI
interface into my PC (I just happen to have an old ESDI drive upstairs
waiting for one anyway)... would I be able to stick the MO drive onto
the PC as yet another mass storage device?
And, before someone starts flaming about messages posted to the wrong
group, please note that I've changed the Followup-To: line to
comp.sys.next.hardware.
Regards,
Mark
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Performance Delays w/3.2 (was: Effects of increasing CPU cache?)
Date: 13 Dec 1993 22:33:15 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2ein2r$c9@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
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westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>Are these typical startup times for NS 3.2? This is with an ATI
>Ultra Pro 2meg VLB card and 16 megs of system memory. I am running
>1024x768x256 at 72Hz refresh. The SCSI host adapter is an Adaptec 1542,
>and the disk is a Maxtor MXT-540SL FAST-SCSI-2 6300 rpm drive.
>I cannot help but getting the sensation that everything
>is running in slow motion. Something must be set incorrectly on my system.
Yes: the amount of RAM installed is incorrect. NeXT recommends at least
24 MB RAM for if you like your screen colored. Me, I'd rather recommend 32 MB.
32 MB improves your overall system perforance by approx. factor 2. With 16 MB,
your poor machine swaps to death.
Regards,
Markus.
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From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Subject: Epson Progression 4 > $900 in SF Bay Area
Message-ID: <CI294E.41E@unix.portal.com>
Summary: Epson Progression 4's selling in Bay Area for $899
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 05:12:09 GMT
Access Computer is selling stripped down Epson Progressions
for $899. Basically, it's a Wingine with a 486SX, 4MB RAM,
120 MB hard disk. If you replace the processor and add more
RAM, you have a very fast NeXT box. If you buy it with
a 486 DX2 66 and a 240 MB drive, I think it's about $1400. This isn't
a bad deal either. These machines were selling for $5,000.
Access Computer can be reached at (408) 247 4444
Brad Wright
wwright@premisys.com
wwright@shell.portal.com
From: boyced@news.delphi.com (BOYCED@DELPHI.COM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NE2000 Driver Source looking for good home
Date: 15 Dec 1993 00:20:52 -0500
Organization: General Videotex Corporation
Message-ID: <2em6rk$7un@news.delphi.com>
Keywords: 3.1 NE2000 home grok
I have a rather stable driver for soem NE200 compatible ethernet cards
(use with a card that uses the WinBond chip with the power on is not
recommended).
Being that I am relegated to a stand-alone, don't have 3.2, and don't have
much free time, I think it it would be best to put it up for adoption.
Doug Boyce
boyced@delphi.com
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From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: NeXT Dimension
Message-ID: <1993Dec15.124215.22394@news.media.mit.edu>
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 12:42:15 GMT
In article <2els2n$qb2@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> ramesh@cs.mcgill.ca (Ramesh SOMALINGAM) writes:
>>Our colour NeXT monitor died a couple of weeks ago, so we have a NeXT
>>Dimension board without a screen - has anyone out there managed to hook up a
>>Sun colour monitor to the NeXT dimension? I'd appreciate any info anyone could
>>give me about this (type of Sun monitor, the type of cables used, etc).
>>Thanks in advance.
>>--
Any high rez monitor will work, that is one that is normally used for 1280x1024
work. We've used HP, DEC, SGI, and Stardent monitors on our NeXTs with no
problem, although you might need a connector (same kind as SUN uses, actually)
to split out the rgb.
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From: jesper@windom (Jesper Lundh)
Subject: AST Bravo video problem
Message-ID: <1993Dec15.153152.1433@sics.se>
Sender: news@sics.se
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 15:31:52 GMT
We have some problems with the graphics on a AST Bravo machine. It uses
Onboard ATI mach32 video controller (BT 481 Ramdac) rev 6 with 2 MB VRAM.
We set the graphics to 800x600 as BT 481 does not support higher
resolutions on NEXTSTEP. Unfortunately the display starts up in 640x480
with strange color patterns. (It works OK in standard VGA mode). We have
tried different memory mappings, and no luck.
Did anybody out there manage to get a similar configuration to work?
Or do you think that you have any useful suggestions, I would more than
grateful. Just send me an e-mail or post to this newsgroup.
>From a place where Santa Claus lives (true!) and polar bears walk the
streets.
Regards,
Ulf Karlsson
E-mail: ulf@initiera.upnet.se (NeXTmail more than welcome)
Initiera Systemdesign AB NEXTSTEP VAD for the Nordic
E.A Rosengrensgata 22 and the Baltic countries.
42131 Vastra Frolunda Phone +46 31 457790
Sweden Fax +46 31 474594
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: 32 bit graphics on Intel hardware?
Date: 15 Dec 1993 10:08:29 -0600
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Seems like I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this post...
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
Highlights of the UK NEXTSTEP-User group meeting, 12 November 1993.
3.2, big screens and fast machines...
UK-manufacturer Elonex did us proud by turning up with a Pentium system
with a BIG screen, and a 486-based system running NEXTSTEP 3.2. A 486
system from Fremont-based manufacturers eCesys was also on display, and
Paul Armitage gave us a demonstration of the system he has developed
for a client.
[...]
On the subject of watching, the real eye-catcher was the Pentium tower
c/w 20" (or was it 21"?) screen. The machine was certainly *very*
fast, but what was instantly arresting was the number of icons in the
dock. At first I thought it must have been using MetroTools, but I was
wrong: the system was using a card from mi'ro giving 1408x1024
resolution. Yup, 1408x1024.
Those of you who attended the User-Group session at the Expo may
remember Bob Lawton's response to a question as to when a 2Kx2K screen
might be available. He replied that he had heard of such things, but
they tended to be expensive... say around $70,000, which presented you
with an interesting choice: "House, or NEXTSTEP." Well, if you can
settle for 1408x1024, mi'ro have a three options which you could
probably exchange for a fully-equipped garden shed.
The *lowest* spec card has the following characteristics:
resolution max colours refresh rates
1408x1024 65 536 70Hz
1280x1024 65 536 75Hz
1152x864 65 536 90Hz
1024x768 1.67 million 75/100Hz [*** i.e. 32-bit]
The release 3.2 driver is being shown first at Comdex, which is why
Elonex's system was running 3.1. Many thanks to Ray Thomas for
attending and telling us more about the cards and about mi'ro. mi'ro
can be contacted:
miro computer
Sheriton House
Castle Park
Cambridge CB3 0AX
Vox: 0223 301102
Fax: 0223 66944
3160 De La Cruz Blvd. Suite 200
Santa Clara, CA 95054
Vox: (408) 727 1558
Fax: (408) 988 2515
Carl-Miele-Str. 4
D-38112 Braunschweig
Vox: (0531) 2113-100
Fax: (0531) 2113-99
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Is there magic needed for the Toshiba MK538FB drive to function?
Message-ID: <1993Dec15.104536.2935@free.fdn.org>
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 10:45:36 GMT
In article <1993Dec12.185951.1026@nestmoi.rain.com> jim@nestmoi.rain.com
(Jim Chorn) writes:
> Hi, I'm trying to get a Toshiba MK538FB drive to function on my
> NeXT-Station running v2.1 and I'm not having much luck. The drive
> acts normal until I try to use it ;-( I get the following errors
> at random times on random block addresses:
>
> mach: sd0 (0,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
> mach: sd0 (0,0): sense key:0x4 additional sense code:0x15
> or
> mach: sd0 (0,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
> mach: sd0 (0,0): sense key:0x4 additional sense code:0x15
> or
> mach: sd0 (0,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:7 scsi status:0x0
>
> Just before this occurs the drive makes an abnormal squeal and then
> sounds like it is doing a full recalibration (like a SCSI reset
> just occurred). The big problem here is that this problem occurs
> with regularity such that I can get paging errors which stop the
> system dead or lossed data on large data movements.
>
> FYI, I formatted it up with 1k sectors and there where no errors
> reported during the reformat.
>
> Is there some special firmware I need to get? The drive claims to
> function with Sun, Dos, and Apple.
>
> Suggestions on what to do next?
>
>
> tia,
> -jim jim@nestmoi.rain.com
sense key:0x4 = hardware error
additional sense code:0x15 = random positioning error or positioning error
detected by incorrect ID.
My guess: you have a servo positioning problem.
Try dd </dev/rsd0a >/dev/null bs=64k to test the sequential access of the
drive and if it works you should try a drive board exchange.
Good luck.
--Fabien
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From: Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller)
Subject: Who repairs HSD (Umax) Scanners in Germany/Switzerland?
Message-ID: <CI37y4.6BG@eunet.ch>
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 17:44:28 GMT
Could anybody direct me to a company that repairs HSD (UMAX) Scanners in
Switzerland or Germany?
Thanks
-Florian
From: fulei@engin.umich.edu (Fu Lei )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 15 Dec 1993 19:05:23 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
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Message-ID: <2enn5jINNr3n@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Hello netters,
We recently had the opportunity of purchasing a Seagate
SCSI disk that we had made the external disk. I followed the
instructions to mount it as a SCSI but all I get is Winchester
icon and the NeXT Turbo Station is mounting it as a removable
drive. I've followed the instructions as given by SystemAdmin
bookshelve to mount the SCSI by altering the file fstab but nothing
seems to work.
Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
fulei@engin.umich.edu
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From: kamau@netcom.com (Kamau Wanguhu)
Subject: Help ECC errors on Optical
Message-ID: <kamauCI39zq.5J1@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 18:28:38 GMT
I seem to be unable to fsck at boot time as my optical has developed read
errors. I know you can use /etc/disk to mark off the bad blocks but the online
docs don't seem to show how.
This is what happened when I ran fsck:
root.borgcube> fsck /dev/rod0a
** /dev/rod0a
** Currently Mounted on /private/dsk/NewsOD
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
CANNOT READ: BLK 108864
CONTINUE?
If I type "y" it continues for a while and then gets stuck again. Are there
options one can give to fsck to make it mark off the bad sectors by itself?
This is also on the console, if it helps:
od0a: read recover (ECC) block 108864 phys block 110230 (11038:0:6)
od0a: read recover (ECC) block 108864 phys block 110230 (11038:0:6)
od0a: read recover (ECC) block 108864 phys block 110230 (11038:0:6)
...
od0a: read recover (ECC) block 108864 phys block 110230 (11038:0:6)
od0a: read recover (ECC) block 108864 phys block 110230 (11038:0:6)
od0a: read failed (ECC) block 108864 phys block 110230 (11038:0:6)
Any help would be appreciated.
Kamau
kamau@netcom.com
kamau@borgcube.sac.ca.us
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From: shukin@duke.usask.ca (Geoff Shukin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: $98 PAS sound card lists NExtstep as supported..
Date: 15 Dec 1993 18:46:04 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: usa
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References: <2ei6ag$n3p@menudo.uh.edu> <1993Dec14.234707.11035@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Gregor Hoffleit (flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote:
: Jagannatha Rao (rao@tree.egr.uh.edu) wrote:
: : Yesterday, at a CompUSA computer super store, I saw the "Basic Pro Audio
: : Spectrum" card (ISA) for $98. At the back of the packaging, the product
: : listed Nextstep as one of the supported systems.
: : Has anybody tried this card in an ISA system? This card is different (and
: : cheaper) from PAS-16 and PAS-studio.
: Yes, I tried it for some days on my machine running 3.1 and equipped with
: ISA board and Adaptec. It worked as well as you can expect from the combo:
: The sound was quite well, as far as it lasted. As known for this combo
: (see NeXTanswers for PAS16) the Adaptec 'knocked out' the PAS16 under heavy
: disk traffic, resulting in deep silence until the next reboot. But I
: noticed no system crashes.
: The Basic is - as far as I know - the Studio without the SCSI controller.
: The Spectrum itself has an older layout (and is said to sound somewhat
: better (??) then the new ones). Btw, the NEXTSTEP PAS16 driver makes an
: difference between Spectrum and Studio. There seems to be no difference in
: performance under NEXTSTEP.
: The fact that MediaVision lists the NEXTSTEP drivers on the package is
: positive, but from all what I've heard it's nearly impossible to use any
: one of then if you have an ISA board and an Adaptec. As sad as this is,
I am wondering if this is true if you have a Bus Logic 542 SCSI Adapter???
: the only point seems to be to look for an MS Sound System or compatible
: card. This seems to work... ;-)
Thanks
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From: wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright)
Subject: Anyone have info about the Epson Progression 4
Message-ID: <CI3D7s.8np@unix.portal.com>
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Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 19:38:13 GMT
Does anyone know if the Epson Progression 4's Wingine
accelerator can be upgraded to 2 meg from 1 meg? Epson's
sales lines are jammed with phone calls.
Brad Wright
wwright@premisys.com
wwright@shell.portal.com
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From: ellidz@kimbark.uchicago.edu (E. Larry Lidz)
Subject: Will NS/FIP run for me?
Message-ID: <1993Dec15.220906.29692@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 22:09:06 GMT
I'm curious if NS/FIP will run on my computer, which is sort of a mish-mash
of parts.. If you have had any experiences with the different components,
please E-Mail me, and tell me if it will work.
Here's my system:
Comtrade 486 DX/2 66 with a G486HVL Motherboard (SCSI, EISA, VESA-LB)
8 RAM (I will be upgrading to 16 before getting NS/FIP)
250 HD (I am willing to get another HD for NS/FIP, if needed)
DTC3270VL VESA SCSI Host Adapter (I've heard DTC has an upgrade ROM to
make it compatible with ADAPTEC Adapters...)
ATI VGA Wonder XL24 Video Card (What res. will it run in?)
SVGA Moniter, upto 800x600
SMC Elite 16 Combo EtherNet Card
Supra 14.4k FaxModem
Sound Blaster v1.5
Roland SCC-1 GMIDI
Thanks for any replys.
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From: Neil Greene <neil@kynug.org>
Subject: [WANTED]: NeXT Dimension/NTC
Message-ID: <1993Dec15.195457.7637@KYnug.org>
Sender: neil@KYnug.org (Neil Greene)
Organization: Kentucky NEXTSTEP User Group, Inc.
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 19:54:57 GMT
Anyone with a used (is there another version) ND or Turbo color systems,
21" monitors, give me a ring at 606-231-6599 or drop an email. Looking to
purchase.
--
Neil Greene
benchMark Developments, Inc. [NeXT VAR]
2040 Regency Road, Suite C Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 606-231-6599 / Fax: 606-254-4864
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From: sjones@netcom.com (Scott M. Jones)
Subject: Re: Need Help with ProAudio 16 Setup
Message-ID: <sjonesCI3p6s.J5C@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <2eln38$53u@rbse.Mountain.Net>
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 23:56:51 GMT
Scott Bender (sbender@MGN.DUS.Mountain.Net) wrote:
: Help with ProAudio Spectrum 16 running with an Adaptech 1740 or 1540.
: NeXSTEP 3.2 fails to boot with the Spectrum 16 installed in the machine.
: I get SCSI bus timeouts. I'd say that there is hardware conflit with the
: Adaptech card. Anyone seen this problem?
: Hardware:
: Northgate 486/50 EISA with an Adaptec 1740 running in standard mode,
: and an ATI Graphics Ultra Pro EISA.
Maybe it's the standard problem noted in nextanswers (see below).
Also, the Adaptec 1542C clashes with the ATI Ultra card. I'm not sure
about the 1740 with ATI Ultra Pro, though.
From NeXTanswers #1158 (1158_Pro_Audio_Spectrum_16.txt):
> * On some systems when an Adaptec SCSI controller is present, the Pro
> Audio Spectrum 16 cannot play 44.1-kHz CD-quality sound. If the Adaptec
> controller controls the bus for long periods of time, the Pro Audio
> Spectrum16 board is locked out and freezes, which may cause a kernel
> panic. This is a hardware problem that has also been discovered in other
> 32-bit operating systems.
Scott Jones
sjones@netcom.com
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Stray interrupts from floppy controller
Message-ID: <westesCI3p7D.At1@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 23:57:12 GMT
When I boot up via the diagnostic route, I notice about three or
four:
flushIntMsgs: Stray Interrupt
messages coming from the floppy controller. I'm using a generic
Taiwanese IDE hard disk/floppy and I have disabled the hard disk and
all the I/O ports on that card. I did not get those messages when I
first installed NeXTSTEP. What are some possible causes of those
messages, and what does this indicate?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
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From: mark@xexos.com (Mark Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: #9GXE video
Message-ID: <1993Dec15.102308.2806@xexos.com>
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Organization: Xexos, Ltd (London)
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Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 10:23:08 GMT
In article <EA4JBF5V@math.fu-berlin.de> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
writes:
> Is anyone using the #9GXE video card with Nextstep 3.2? How is the
performance?
> Where did you get the card (I've seen a GXE LocalBus for as low as $299)?
> Sounds like it is maybe the cheapest route for Nextstep in color? If someone
> knows of a cheaper way to get 1024 x 768 color Nextstep, I'd like to hear
> about that as well.
>
Works really well in 3.2. Even better in mono-mode at 1280x1024. In mono its
nice and fast, easily as fast as a Turbo station.
Using them here.
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From: sjones@netcom.com (Scott M. Jones)
Subject: Intel: Separate controller needed for floppy?
Message-ID: <sjonesCI3q5F.L7K@netcom.com>
Keywords: floppy SCSI DPT
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 00:17:38 GMT
I'm trying to put together a 486 system (piecewise) and I spec'ed the DPT
2122 for use with a SCSI hard drive and CD ROM. My hardware guy (not
Next savvy) swears that I should buy the DPT board with a floppy controller
built in, but the nextanswer memo clearly states that the floppy controller
for the DPT isn't supported.
(1) Do I need a separate controller for the floppy which takes up an
extra slot and separate cabling for it, or should the floppy be
cabled to the DPT?
(2) If the floppy _should_ be cabled to the DPT, what is it that is
unsupported -- SCSI access of the floppy vs. FDD? The hardware
salesman implied that a floppy controller is a floppy controller is
a floppy controller.
If the answer to (1) is 'yes', I guess that's not so bad. I've seen
IDE controllers for as little as $17 in town.
Scott Jones
sjones@netcom.com
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From: "James "Mike" Conley" <conley@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Symphony MB and PAS16
Message-ID: <1993Dec15.200025.27558@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Keywords: ProAudio Spectrum, Symphony, DMA
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 20:00:16 -0500
I could not get the ProAudio Spectrum 16 card to work properly with even DOS
let alone with NSfip, so I finally admitted defeat and called Media Vision.
It turns out that on Symphony motherboards there is a cheat they pulled to get
slightly better DMA performance, unfortunately this takes the board out of
"AT" spec and results in the PAS16 not being able to be recognized by the
configuration software (although Sound Blaster emulation does work since it
doesn't rely on the DMA channel).
They have a patch under DOS that will fix this (SYMPFIX.ZIP on their BBS:
+1 510 638-2807). This fix is a whopping 16 bytes (probably just a write to
the address of the DMA controller to slow it down a little.)
The reason I'm posting is that I see a very similar problem with NS/fip 3.1
which I suspect is caused by the same problem. Anyway, if anyone feels
adventuresome and wants to turn this into a NS fix, great, unfortunately I'm
in the middle of finals and then vacation.
Hope this helps someone or at least saves them a little time.
James "Mike" Conley
From: kbennett@access.digex.net (Keith R. Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Diksk Drive Deoptpot OK to deal with?
Date: 15 Dec 1993 21:53:21 -0500
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA: 800-969-9090
Message-ID: <2eoij1$sub@access.digex.net>
Has anyone ever dealt with Disk Drive Depot in Sunnyvale, CA? I'm
considering getting a SCSI DAT tape drive from them. It's factory
refurbished, a Wangtek 6130 HS 2 GB, for only $554!
I'd like to know of any experiences you've had with them. Thanks...
- Keith
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From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: ***HSD Extends Special Bundle Prices Through Dec 23, 1993***
Message-ID: <CI3nMp.8z@beach.com>
Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter)
Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D.
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 23:23:13 GMT
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For information about other HSD products, including pricing for the
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Prices available through December 23, 1993.
Prices are per order. Orders may be paid for by company check or
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Purchase orders, electronic mail and telephone orders are accepted.
Fax your purchase order to HSD at (408) 774-1402 or send it via
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If you have any questions or would like to receive pricing and
complete information about all HSD products for NeXTSTEP, please
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From: ddj@world.std.com (David D Johnson)
Subject: Compression DAT support (software disable of compression)
Message-ID: <CI4t07.Lrr@world.std.com>
Summary: Is there any way to switch a compression DAT to non-compressed mode in
Keywords: DAT compression mode select
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 14:16:54 GMT
I got an early Xmas gift of an HP 35480A DAT drive for my NeXTstation.
After using mtset -i to allow restore to figure out how big the
blocksize was when the tape was written, I have been able to dump
and restore successfully. However, all the DAT drives at work are
non-compression, so I need a way to write tar files with compression
disabled.
Has anyone figured out a way to toggle the compression in software
under NEXTSTEP 3.x? Ideally it would be using different device names,
like Sun or HP have, but I wouldn't mind running a program to select
the mode before writing a tape.
Please reply to ddj@gradient.com and I will summarize the responses.
Dave Johnson
ddj@gradient.com
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From: peterb@marvin.ptltd.com (Peter Barada)
Subject: Does the NEC TripleSpeed CD drive work with 3.1 and Black Hardware
Message-ID: <CI4yA3.9y2@blackhole.ptltd.com>
Sender: root@blackhole.ptltd.com (Operator)
Organization: Phoenix Tech Ltd.
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 16:10:50 GMT
Well the subject says it all.
I want to know if anyone has made the NEC Triple speed
CDrom drive work with 3.1+ and Black Hardware (25Mhz Slab). I'm
looking to upgrade, so I'll need a drive.
I believe the model is NEC 3Xp and costs ~500$
Specifically:
1)Does it work out of the box?
2)How's it speed look?
3)Does it do Photo-CDs?
4)How is its remote SCSI implementation (open/close, volume)?
5)Any troubles or war stories (good or bad) about it I should know?
Please email any responses and I'll followup to here.
ThanX in advance.
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From: gary@uaneuro.uah.ualberta.ca (Gary Ritchie)
Subject: Re: Intel: Separate controller needed for floppy?
Message-ID: <1993Dec16.153600.12903@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <sjonesCI3q5F.L7K@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 15:36:00 GMT
> (1) Do I need a separate controller for the floppy which takes up an
> extra slot and separate cabling for it, or should the floppy be
> cabled to the DPT?
We're using the floppy controller on a DPT 2012/95 with no problems.
Hardware is 486 DX/2 66, EISA, ATI Ultra Pro VLB, Intel Ether Express, 32
MB RAM, Logitech bus mouse.
> (2) If the floppy _should_ be cabled to the DPT, what is it that is
> unsupported -- SCSI access of the floppy vs. FDD? The hardware
> salesman implied that a floppy controller is a floppy controller is
> a floppy controller.
Don't know. The system sees it as a generic floppy controller. I presume
there *is* a reason why NeXT says they don't support the DPT floppy, but
we haven't had any trouble.
Don't blame me if your computer melts. :-)
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From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: Gateway and Parallel/Serial Ports
Message-ID: <1993Dec16.170006.2723@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 17:00:06 GMT
Anyone who is using NS/I on a Gateway may be able to answer my
questions...
I need to install NS/I on a Gateway machine... I notice in the
NeXTanswers file that the recommended BIOS settings include disabling
the parallel and serial ports...
My questions:
1. If these ports are disabled, what do you use to print or
communicate with a modem? A separate i/o board in a slot?
2. Why are these ports on the motherboard disabled?
Thanks for any insights about this.
Phil
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From: altitude@css.itd.umich.edu (Alex Tang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,umich.unix
Subject: Black, 3 serial devices...2 ports.
Date: 16 Dec 1993 21:13:53 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD/User Services
Message-ID: <2eqj2h$57u@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Hi folks, here's the deal. We've got one NeXTstation, a modem, a HP LJ
serial printer, and a mac hooked up to the next via serial. THe problem
is that since there are only 2 ports......you get the picture. I want
to keep the modem hooked up all the time. I'd like to hook up a switch
box or something so that we could use the printer or the mac as a
terminal on demand. Here's the prob...If i boot the next and run the
mac as a terminal, i can't switch to using the printer. I'm assuming
that I have to HUP/KILL something, but I don't know what.
could some kind soul lemme know?
...alex...
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From: alan@softpac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: test
Date: 17 Dec 93 12:07:22
Organization: Softpac Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <alan.93Dec1712722@softpac>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
this is a test, please disregard
From: mwebster@lab9.smcm.edu (G. Matthew Webster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Future Domain 1680 and NS/Intel
Date: 17 Dec 1993 01:28:24 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2er1vo$r9c@umd5.umd.edu>
I want to ue my Future Domain 1680 SCSI-2 controller with NeXT Step Intel.
It doesn't work as far as I know nor do I know of any FTP sites for
drivers for the beast. If anyone can help me, I would very much
appreciate it. Thanks,
Matt Webster
mwebster@oyster.smcm.edu
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From: tjyang@cc.nsysu.edu.tw (Tyng-Jing Yang)
Subject: Re: Help, NeXT laser printer feed problem
In-Reply-To: hbstrock@world.std.com's message of Thu, 9 Dec 1993 17:40:21 GMT
Message-ID: <TJYANG.93Dec17100228@cc.nsysu.edu.tw>
Sender: news@news.nsysu.edu.tw
Organization: NSYSU Computing Center
References: <CHs3rA.DK2@world.std.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 02:02:28 GMT
I have feeding problem too and it is more serous than your problem.
My problem is that the paper in the tray can't be print out because
it failed to drag in paper in the last step. And I always got the
lady's voice "Your printer is jammed".(there is no paper jammed actually)
This sitution was occasionally in the beginning but now it happen
all the time. So I have no way to print out my papers ;-<
I even try to dismantled the printer to find out what is the problem
and it doesn't help much on the problem. All I learn is that the
printer somehow failed to drag in the papers at the last step !!!
Anyone know how to fix this problem ?
Thanks for any input
Tyng-Jing Yang
From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway and Parallel/Serial Ports
Date: 17 Dec 1993 02:25:57 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL USA
Message-ID: <2er5bl$bna@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <1993Dec16.170006.2723@Princeton.EDU>
In article <1993Dec16.170006.2723@Princeton.EDU>,
Gerard Philippe Menos <gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU> wrote:
>
>I need to install NS/I on a Gateway machine... I notice in the
>NeXTanswers file that the recommended BIOS settings include disabling
>the parallel and serial ports...
>
>My questions:
>
>1. If these ports are disabled, what do you use to print or
>communicate with a modem? A separate i/o board in a slot?
>
>2. Why are these ports on the motherboard disabled?
>
Darned if I know why it appears like this.
You can go ahead and enable them. Com1 is 3f8 Com2 is 2f8 Parallel is
378.
There were some hassles in get 3.1 installed on gateways, but nothing
that couldn't be overcome. 3.2 was an easier install.
You mileage may vary. Gateway switches motherboard types about twice a
week.
Good Luck
--
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j-weiss@nwu.edu
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From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: TokenExpress troubles - anyone else had any
Date: 15 Dec 1993 16:52:10 GMT
Organization: E&S
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2enfbq$gbc@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <16CA31182B.BJANZEN@lexmark.com>
In article BJANZEN@lexmark.com, bjanzen@lexmark.com () writes:
> Yes, I RTFM's and made all the calls, and no luck. Is anyone else using this
> card, or am I the first one on the planet? Interesting note - I'm not 100%
> convinced NS would work even if the card worked - in Setup my Network is
> setup as Intel TokenExpress, but the console says it's trying en0 during Simple
> Network Starter. What gives?
>
> Barry "the glutton for punishment" Janzen
> (as opposed to Wyoming "glutton for mutton" Ranchers)
> bjanzen@lexmark.com
Before purchasing a network card, I asked on the NeXT forum on Compuserve
what network card people thought was best for NS/FIP.
The result of the poll unamimously favored the Intel EtherExpress card.
That's what I bought.
Boy, am I glad :-).
Sorry I don't have better info for you, bjanzen.
Nevin
From: Alan Goldberg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec SCSI Controller
Date: 17 Dec 93 12:26:57
Organization: Softpac Pty Ltd, Sydney, Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <alan.93Dec17122657@softpac>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
The Adaptec AHA1542CF doent appear to work with NS
The Adaptec 1542C in the same configuration does.
Any Ideas
Thanks in advance
Alan Goldberg
From: develand@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (Darren Eveland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/Intel - got it!
Date: 17 Dec 1993 04:00:11 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2erasb$svk@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
I just got NS/Intel 3.1 today! Nice! It installed no problem, but when I
try to use the Cirrus Logic GD542X driver, I get these vertical lines all
the way across my screen. I can sorta see the screen, and it *looks* like
a SVGA screen, but I can't do anything. The mouse won't even work!!
I am using a 486DX-50 VL-BUS PC with a Cirrus Logic GD5426 VL-BUS graphics
card (1 meg).
Standard VGA works good, but geez, I'd like the 1024x768 res. Any help???
Thanks.
Darren
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From: mpetach@storm.Stanford.EDU (Matthew N. Petach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-ROMS for Black Hardware
Date: 17 Dec 1993 05:34:52 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <2ergds$l00@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CHBDD9.50v@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Sharad J Shanbhag-2 (shanb001@maroon.tc.umn.edu) wrote:
:
: Hello,
Hi!
: I am interested in obtaining a CD-ROM drive for my NeXTStation running
: NS3.0. Must I use a NeXT CD-ROM, or have people had any success using
: other SCSI CD-ROM drives? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Any CD-ROM will work.
: Please send responses via email.
: -Sharad Shanbhag
: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
: Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9218
: Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201
: Department of Neurosurgery
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: 421 Lions Research Building sharad@nextear.psych.umn.edu
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From: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C. McAfee)
Subject: Comments on Fujitsu M2694ESA 1.0G drive? Considering purchase
Message-ID: <1993Dec17.083752.2082@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 08:37:52 GMT
Hi!
I'm looking to buy my first external disk for my NeXTstation. I would
like to be able to plug it into a Sun|HP|SGI workstation at a later time.
I've heard Fujitsu is a reliable vendor, and was wondering if anyone
could comment about this particular disk (Fujitsu 1.0G M2694ESA). Noise,
reliablility, etc.
Comments on your favorite disk are also welcome!
Thanks,
Chris "1.48MB available on hard disk" McAfee
mcafee@cs.stanford.edu
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: ProAudio + ISA in NS/I 3.2
Message-ID: <CI5wCG.FB4@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <2e6vb6$90@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <1993Dec13.143915.22184@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 04:26:39 GMT
In article <1993Dec13.143915.22184@Princeton.EDU> gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
>In article <2e6vb6$90@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org
>(Markus Wenzel) writes:
>> Hi,
>>
>> after a few days of experimenting with NS/I 3.2, I must
>> state that the ProAudio does not work reliably on ISA machines.
>
With NS 3.1, I've been able to get a ProAudio to work about 90% of
the time in an Epson NX w/ an Adaptac 1542B using DMA channel 3
and Irq 15. This is with massive pounding of the machine and
the sound system.
With NS 3.2, I've been able to get the card to perform much better
with another Epson NX w/ a DPT 2021 ISA SCSI card, using DMA
channel 3 and Irq 11. This is with light usage... seems to work
well. I'll get a chance to pound the system a little later on.
>Sound has never frozen my ISA machine, and I know of an EISA machine
>that just won't play sound at all.
In several ISA machines, I've seen the sound card all of a sudden not
work under 3.1. With 3.1, an Intel Pro-GX, and a Pro-Audio card,
it seems to work 99% of the time except for drop out problems running
long CD quality sounds.
>On my ISA machine, I have worked with IDE and Adaptec disk systems.
>The IDE config works the best --sound is clear and has never paused.
>With the Adaptec, long sound files sometimes pause, and you have to
>click on the player interface to resume sound (but no system crashes).
On the DPT 2021 it is possible to configure the card to "hog" the bus
less... that might help. Are you using a local bus IDE interface?
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: NS FIP on Intel Pro GX in Bay Area?
Message-ID: <CI5wpo.FDy@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org> <1993Dec13.221546.532@dart.de>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 04:34:34 GMT
In article <1993Dec13.221546.532@dart.de> wbeeck@dart.de writes:
>In article <bchin.755392497@news.andi.org> bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
>writes:
>> The Intel Pro GX uses the ATI Mach32 chip, one the slowest of the high
>> end local bus chips. The S3 928 is much faster, and a Wingine or JAWS
>> video subsystem blows the S3 away.
>
>For color graphics I'm using an Intel Professional GX now, after using a NeXT
>Colorstation for 2 years. The Intel Pro GX feels faster, especially with
>NEXTSTEP 3.2
>
>Regarding JAWS I would be concerned about its future support. I think it is a
>proprietary design which is not even supported by Dell anymore.
Apparently it was an Intel design that only Dell used... and yes, Dell
is not making any more JAWS machines.
> I'm not sure
>about the success of Wingine either. To me it looks like the ATI and S3
>chipsets are pretty much standard for many high end video boards today.
Right... the Wingine chipset cannot be placed on a VL bus board - the
VL spec just isn't good enough according to some of the engineers I
spoke to at JCIS. That's why you don't see a Wingine based board from
ATI or other graphics board makers.
On the Epson NX, the Wingine is integrated onto the motherboard. On
the JCIS designed machines, it's on a proprietary local bus card.
>
>Intel is using an onboard ATI chip for their new PCI Pentium board, called
>Premiere PCI LPX. It is nearly twice as fast as the current ATI chip on the GX
>(> 50 million winmarks vs. 30 million winmarks). Which means that it can
>probably move windows faster around than I can move my mouse.
>
Good! It should make the Intel Pro-GX a much stronger candidate. Throughput
is more than just how fast windows can move around. Why not use
ISA based video cards if that was the case?
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From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: Anyone have info about the Epson Progression 4
Message-ID: <CI5x9p.FHp@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <CI3D7s.8np@unix.portal.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 04:46:36 GMT
In article <CI3D7s.8np@unix.portal.com> wwright@shell.portal.com (Bradly William Wright) writes:
>Does anyone know if the Epson Progression 4's Wingine
>accelerator can be upgraded to 2 meg from 1 meg?
According to some Epson tech support people, this cannot be done.
I would, however, take that with a grain of salt.
>Epson's
>sales lines are jammed with phone calls.
Yeah, thier 1-800 support line is useless because it's too hard to get in.
At least at some 1-800 lines, one can wait on hold. Their lines are
jammed to the point that it's busy all the time. Once one does get
in, it's typically a 45 minute wait! Ugh! I ended up direct dialing
their offices and paying for the call myself. Try 310-782-4000.
Good luck!
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From: tyf@soda.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysdamin
Subject: HELP : NeXTstation won't power on
Date: 17 Dec 1993 09:48:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Undergrad Assoc, UCBerkeley
Message-ID: <2erv9n$k3k@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi,
I don't konw what happens. I pressed the power key this morning but
the machine did not power on. I recheck all my cables and they were connected
correctly. I don't know what exactly the problem is. If you've similar
experience, please email me.
Also, I suspect it maybe something like a service module that turns
on/off the NeXTstation at a certain time. Could this be it? How can I fix
the problem?
A thousand thanks. Just when I though I can enjoy the vacation after
the finals ...
Oh. Please no NeXTmail. The machine is sick...
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From: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Subject: Re: Apple CD 150 and CDPlayer
Message-ID: <CI1Fv8.706@muaddib.isar.muc.de>
Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.isar.muc.de (Maximilian Goedel)
Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel
References: <2ehltb$672@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Distribution: all
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 18:40:19 GMT
In article <2ehltb$672@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea
Brooks) writes:
> Aren't Apple's CD-150 and the old Next CD-ROM exactly the
> same hw? They sure seem to be. Then why does the black
> drive work with CDPlayer, and the white no?
>
> Thanks
>
> L.A. Brooks
>
>
The Drive is the same but the firmware is different. I have both
drives and only the NeXT one does use the CDPlayer.app
Nice Greetings from Munich - Germany
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From: oschmid@cube.de (Ottmar Schmid)
Subject: Installation with Adaptec 1742B
Message-ID: <1993Dec16.095202.332@cubenx.cube.de>
Sender: oschmid@cubenx.cube.de
Organization: Cube Informationssysteme, GmbH
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 09:52:02 GMT
Has anybody successfully installed NS 3.2 with an Adaptec 1742B. I know that
there is no driver for it, although it was announced for 3.2.
But I have heard that it should possible to use the 1542B driver to run the
1742B in 1542B "emulation mode". This would be o.k. for some time. Any
experiences???
E-Mail please to jleitz@cube.de
Thanks,
Ottmar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: takken@raven.Stanford.EDU (Todd Takken)
Subject: screen brightness 030 cube vs 040 slab
Message-ID: <1993Dec14.214621.24901@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: su
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 21:46:21 GMT
I have both an 030 cube and a 25 MHz 040 slab and am running NS 3.2 on
both. I can't seem to make the screen as bright on the cube. Could the
screen be giving out, is it my imagination, or was it designed this way?
Did NeXT increase the maximal screen brightness when they started making
slabs?
-- Todd Takken
takken@raven.stanford.edu
From: rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Staringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ProAudio Spectrum 16 vs Logitech Soundman 16 SUMMARY
Date: 17 Dec 1993 15:15:18 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2esie6$8te@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Thanks to all respondents! The Logitech is an OEM card and is
exactly the same as the PAS except for the missing CDROM-SCSI adapter.
(Which I don't nand which NEXTSTEP doesn't support anyway.) I bought
the Logitech and saved myself more than half the price of the PAS!
Rainer
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From: rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Staringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which SCSI adapter to buy for NS/I?
Date: 17 Dec 1993 15:32:26 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2esjea$9oo@email.tuwien.ac.at>
What is the best SCSI adapter (cost/performance-wise) of those cards
currently supported by NEXTSTEP3.2? I have a 66MHz EISA/VLB 486
with VLB S3-928 graphics and a PAS-compatible soundcard.
Is it true that the Adaptec 1740 is only supported in 1540 mode by
NEXTSTEP3.2? Also, I remember a driver for a VLB BusLogic SCSI adapter
being "planned for Q4 93"? Anybody know when it will be ready?
Please answer by email, I'll summarize back to the net!
Rainer
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From: develand@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (Darren Eveland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI Ultra Pro?
Date: 17 Dec 1993 17:23:20 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2espu8$gj8@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Is the VL-BUS ATI Ultra Pro graphics card with 2 meg VRAM slow in
16-bit colour modes??
What i really want to know is what is the best gfx card to get in the 500
price range.
Anyone know?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Raise RDP Exceptiion
Message-ID: <1993Dec17.153053.323@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 15:30:53 GMT
I have been getting this error.
Raise RDP exception 6 Code 3 subcode 0
Waiting for RDP connection.
This is on a Compaq Prosignia running NS/FIP 3.1
EISA
ATI EISA CARD
ADAPTEK 1542C
PAS 16
SMC Ethernet Card
I was wondering if:
1) Anyone knows what this results from?
2) Anyone knows how to fix it ordeal with it?
3) If it occurrs in 3.2?
THanks
Wes
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Extended Warranty on Black Hardware
Message-ID: <1993Dec17.160908.739@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 16:09:08 GMT
I am now at the point where my 1 year warranty is expiring. I have
changed out compnents in NeXT machines, so I feel that if I can get parts,
I can fix my machine without any problem.
But, I would like some advice on the Warranty. I can warranty all or
parts of my system (21", turbo color ADB, with laser).
All opinions will be appreciated.
Thanks
Wes
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From: TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (TED ALLEN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/FIP Keyboard question
Date: 17 Dec 1993 11:49:56 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <23121711494721@wishep.physics.wisc.edu>
I'm putting together a NS/Intel machine and I'd like to have the same keyboard
layout that I'm used to on my VT320 terminal at work. The main thing is that I
want the | and \ key to the immediate left of the return key and not in the
numbers row or on the same row as the spacebar. Does anyone know of a PS/2
compatible keyboard with such a layout? I saw one in the computer shopper in
the Professional Technologies ad, but they said it was a Focus keyboard, but
Focus said it's not one of theirs. Help!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted Allen tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Physics
From: TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (TED ALLEN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Printer options for Intel hardware
Date: 17 Dec 1993 12:00:43 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <23121712003353@wishep.physics.wisc.edu>
Does anyone know what NON-PostScript printers will work with NS/FIP? I know
there is a driver for the HP DeskJet 500 on cs.orst.edu to connect the printer
to the serial port. Does a generic laser printer need a special driver for the
parallel port? Will other printers work on the serial port with the driver for
the DeskJet? (Just in case anyone is wondering, one will either have to
purchase a license from NeXT to run a non-PostScript printer or will have to
use ghostscript to drive the printer in order not to violate the software
license with NeXT.)
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University of Wisconsin Physics
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mschwage@next3.corp.mot.com (Mike Schwager)
Subject: Multisync Monitor on Black NextStation Turbo
Organization: MOTOROLA
Date: 17 Dec 93 16:37:19 GMT
Message-ID: <mschwage.756146239@cssrjs>
Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (Net News)
Ladies and Gentlemen, Moms and Dads;
I have heard it said that one cannot possibly use an NEC 6FG or any other
multisync monitor with a Black NeXTStation. Any thoughts why? Is it
true? Have you done it?
I can't believe it would be *that* nonstandard that you couldn't get a
regular multisync to work with it...
Thanks for any insights.
Just another,
-Motorola Mike
================================================
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Motorola, Inc. (708) 576-6993 voice | only by accident." p. 121
1299 E. Algonquin Rd. (708) 576-3111 fax | - Maurice J. Bach, _The Design
Schaumburg, IL 60196 of the Unix Operating System_
From: Ward_Travis@transarc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: OD question
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 13:28:14 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <ch4TcyqSMUkH0F4s5d@transarc.com>
Does the cube's optical drive have more than one variety? What I'm
asking is: can I get an optical drive for the cube that will treat
double-sided media as a single disk?
--
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travis@transarc.com (412) 338 4388 labor knows." - R. Frost
From: devans@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (David F Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: screen brightness 030 cube vs 040 slab
Date: 15 Dec 1993 20:29:25 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Distribution: su
Message-ID: <2ens35$jbc@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
References: <1993Dec14.214621.24901@leland.Stanford.EDU>
In article <1993Dec14.214621.24901@leland.Stanford.EDU> Todd Takken (takken@raven.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
:>I have both an 030 cube and a 25 MHz 040 slab and am running NS 3.2 on
:>both. I can't seem to make the screen as bright on the cube. Could the
:>screen be giving out, is it my imagination, or was it designed this way?
:>Did NeXT increase the maximal screen brightness when they started making
:>slabs?
I think the screen's going. The screen on my '030 cube is as bright as
any other NeXT I've ever seen (including a few other cubes.) I'd much rather
stare at it then the NeXTDimension machine sitting two feet to my right....
Much sharper.
=============================================================================
David Evans devans@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie (NeXTMail OK)
University of Guelph "Default is the value selected by the
Guelph, Ontario, Canada composer overridden by your command."
- Roland TR-707 Manual
From: TJALLEN@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (TED ALLEN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: MIDI and NS/FIP question
Date: 17 Dec 1993 13:39:52 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <23121713394122@wishep.physics.wisc.edu>
Does anyone know whether I need a PAS board to input/output MIDI data? Is
there is a compatible MIDI port that will work with NS/Intel without using
the PAS board? (And, BTW, what is the part number/model number of the MIDI
adapter which works with the PAS?) Thanks.
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University of Wisconsin Physics
From: bill@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Modem for Turbo & Mac
Date: 17 Dec 1993 10:48:58 -0800
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program
Message-ID: <2esuuq$pp6@alamut.cognet.ucla.edu>
If anyone has some recommendations for a decent
modem I can readily switch back and forth from
a Turbo & a Mac (and possibly a PC as well),
I'd appreciate it.
Not that the modems *shouldn't* be interchangeable
on all machines.
Thansk,
Bill
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need an Backup-Solution
Message-ID: <1993Dec17.210219.1@mpimg-berlin-dahlem.mpg.de>
From: kloska@mpimg-berlin-dahlem.mpg.de
Date: 17 Dec 93 21:02:19 +0100
Organization: MPI f. Molekulare Genetik, Berlin
Nntp-Posting-User: kloska
Hi there !
Working on my Mac IIvx with 240MB internal drive. I'm getting more and
more frightend of headcrashs or anything else Murphy holds for my hard-
drive.
So I thought about buying an backup-media and nearly droped dead when
I heard about prices Apple is charging on streamers. Here in germany they
only sell one Streamer which would cost me 3000 DM (about 2000 $).
Is there any other backup-solution less expensive then this ?
Thanx in advance and merry X-mas
Sebastian Kloska (kloska@mpimg-berlin-dahlem.mpg.de)
From: htoh@euclid.math.usfca.edu (Hunpin Toh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does DayDream exist?
Date: 17 Dec 1993 20:15:22 GMT
Organization: University of San Francisco
Message-ID: <2et40q$q26@noc.usfca.edu>
References: <1993Dec11.211433.20153@leland.Stanford.EDU>
I was just as curious about the product and I emailed them a while
ago. I got a reply from them after about a week and they've posted me
with an update recently. Check out the lengthy Q&A...
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QUIX Computerware AG, P.O. Box 306, 6030 Ebikon-Lucerne, Switzerland
quix@applelink.apple.com Fax 011-41-41-348680 From: Andy Grawehr
If you send us e-mail, please include your name in the subject line!
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DAYDREAM
Msg:
We apologize for the time it has taken to get this out. There were so
many inquiries coming in about daydream we had significant
difficulties to answer even a fraction of them in an appropriate
time. In the 4 1/2 years of our business, we have never had such a
huge response.
Due to additional workforces, I think that we will be able to handle
all requests - whether information or support - within a short time.
So, here's new information about daydream:
WHEN IS IT AVAILABLE? Good point. While we have solved most of the
legal difficulties in summer, a few minor things remain and tend to
delay the first release. We are neither happy with the situation. We
hope to ship by the end of this year. (This at least gives us time to
add a lot of nice features :-)
THE INTRODUCTION OFFER has been extended, the price tag of $795 is
now valid till the end of February 94. Some people were not sure
whether our Ad and the article in NeXTworld is true. But: NeXTworld
wanted to SEE daydream running on their OWN computers before writing
about it.
If you have any additional question: Send E-Mail to:
quix@applelink.apple.com.
We'll try to answer it within two days.
Thanks for your patience
Andy Grawehr
QUIX Computerware AG
PS: If you have already received the first mailing, have a look at
the Q&A UPDATE at the end of this document.
TEXT ONLY DATA SHEET -DAYDREAM- V1.2 / (tm)=ª / (R)=¨ /
_____________________________________________________________________
Daydream. Run the Apple Macintoshª Operating System on your NeXTª
Computer.
_____________________________________________________________________
Compatible:
¥ Runs Apple¨ System 7.1 right out of the Box.
¥ Runs virtually every Macintosh¨-Compatible Application
¥ Supports 1.44 MB Floppy, Macintosh¨-SCSI-Disks,
Removables, Scanners, CD-ROMs and Ethernet.
¥ Integrates into Ethernet: Full Communication with
other Macintosh¨ and NeXT¨Computers:
¥ File Server access plus built-in Fileserver, Printer access.
¥ Runs your Macintosh¨ Software as fast as a high end Mac.
Flexible
¥ Run tons of Macintosh¨-Applications
¥ Install Utilities and System extensions.
¥ Superior Compatibility.
Simple
¥ Simple Installation and Setup
¥ Converts your black NeXT¨ into a
virtual Macintosh¨ Workstation.
Daydream lets you run the Apple Macintoshª System 7ª on your black
NeXTª Computer. It opens a new world of Applications, Utilities and
Solutions - the World of the Macintoshª Software.
Use your existing NeXTª hardware to discover and take advantage of
what Macª Programmers have created for the Macintoshª.
Take advantage of thousands of Software Products and Hardware
Products. And, take advantage of your NeXTª as a high performance
Workstation.
The approach of daydream is radical: It converts your hardware into a
virtual Macintoshª Workstation, booting System 7.1ª right out of the
box. No need of patching System Software, no need of patching
Applications, just use it as your new Macª, and install your
Software as usual. Or use Software over the Network from a real
Macintoshª.
It's not only the Software, we support the Hardware, too.
You can attach external Hard Disk Drives, Removables, Opticals, CD
ROM's or Scanners to your NeXTª running daydream. Use Modems and
Printers to get connected to the World. There's even support for your
existing black Laser Printer.
If all this sounds unbelievable, then you're probably used to so-
called Macintosh Emulation Products. Daydream is not the same, it's
professional. It's compatible and fast. It's easy to install, and
easy to use. It's... like a real Macintoshª. It's a daydream.
Daydream is the definitive way to take the best of two worlds. Double
the potential of your existing hardware.
A tour with daydream
Daydream consists of an external DSP-ROM-Box and a set of Disks. The
software installation process is menu driven and takes about five
minutes to complete. You install daydream just like any other NeXTª
Application with a few mouse-clicks.
Then, you start daydream with the NEXTSTEPª-based Starter
Application. Your hardware will reboot with daydream and System 7ª
as Operating System. The 'Happy Mac' appears and soon you'll find
yourself in the Finderª. Now it looks like a Macª.
The easiest way to test some Applications is to attach a Macintosh-
Formatted Hard Disk to your Computer. Start the Software from there Ð
no re-configuration needed Ð and enjoy all the new possibilities.
Or, run the Software directly from another Macª using the Network.
Of course, you can still install your software from floppies.
If your Software works with a Macintosh LCª, chances are very good
it will also run with daydream. Not only INIT's and other Drivers
work in general, even foreign System Software, like Korean or Arabic
versions, work with daydream.
Your black Laser Printer and your Modem are supported, too.
For more info call (201) 928 0420
Or, send E-Mail to quix@applelink.apple.com
If possible, include your name in the subject .
Or, send a Fax to: 011 41 41 34-86-80
QUIX Computerware AG, P.O. Box 306,
6030 Ebikon-Lucerne, Switzerland
Phone 011-41-41-348843
_____________________________________________________________________
NeXT and NEXTSTEP are trademarks of NeXT, Inc. Apple, the Apple Logo,
Macintosh, Mac, System 7 and Finder are trademarks of Apple Computer,
Inc. All other trademarks mentioned belong to their respective
holders. Mention of non-QUIX products is for informational purposes
and constitutes neither an endorsement nor a recommendation.
Specifications subject to change without notice.
_____________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________
daydream Q&A V1.2 daydream version: B33
_____________________________________________________________________
If you have any question or idea, please let us know. Write or fax
to: QUIX Computerware AG, Ebikon-Lucerne, Switzerland, ATTN: Q&A1.1
quix@applelink.apple.com (if possible, include your name in the email
subject)
Fax 011 41 41 34-86-80
T1
Q: What Version of Macintoshª System Software can I use?
A: System 7.01ª or System 7.1ª are fine. System 7.1ª is recommended
because this is the latest System Software from Appleª.
T2
Q: Do I need to modify Appleª's System Software before I can use it
on my NeXTª?
A: No. daydream uses an original, non-modified System 7ª. You can
even boot from an off the shelf System 7ª Package.
T3
Q: Can I use my existing hard disk drive?
A: Yes. You don't need to buy any additional hardware to run
daydream.
T4
Q: Do I need to re-partition my hard disk?
A: No. daydream does not require re-partitioning or even formatting
your hard disk. Like SoftPCª, you can create files on your NeXTª-
formatted hard disk which contain a 'hard disk' for the Macintoshª
Operating System. The daydream installer application even creates the
first so-called disk-file for you.
T5
Q: Is daydream an Application?
A: No, dayderam is a so-called kernel, like the Mach kernel used in
NEXTSTEPª.
T6
Q: Can I run NEXTSTEPª and daydream concurrently?
A: No, at least not today.
T7
Q: Do I need to start NEXTSTEPª in order to start daydream?
A: You can take a shortcut by pressing Alternate-Tilde just after the
'Loading from Disk' Message appears when your NeXTª is turned on.
Then, in the ROM monitor, type 'bsd daydream'. There you go.
T8
Q: How much speed is lost by daydream?
A: daydream offers the unrestriced potential of your Hardware to your
Application Software. You run as fast as a high-end Macintoshª.
T9
Q: Is daydream an emulation?
A: No. daydream is no emulation or trying-to-be-like software. It
neither emulates, nor loses speed. It's the Macª OS on a
(somewhat..) different hardware.
T10
Q: How long does it take to install daydream and get running?
A: The installation process is automatic and requires no specific
knowledge. You'll spend most of the time for entering your Address in
the Registration Window.
T11
Q: Can I read Appleª Macintoshª formatted Floppy Disks?
A: You can read, write and format Macintoshª 1.44 MB Diskettes, like
every Macintoshª. The older 800k Disk Format is not supported by the
NeXTª hardware, so daydream can't help with these.
T12
Q: How can I read Appleª 800k Disks on my NeXTª?
A: You can't read them directly on your NeXTª, but if there's a Macª
in your network: Read it there and transfer the files using the
built-in fileserver to your NeXTª. Or: Try getting 1.44 MB disks,
they work fine, and are used for most applications today.
T13
Q: Can I read PC-formatted Floppy Disks?
A: With third-party software, you can. PC Exchangeª from Appleª, for
example, works fine. It also reads, writes and formats PC-formatted
Hard Disks or Removables.
T14
Q: Can I protect my NeXTª-Formatted Hard Disk Drives from being
touched by Macª-Applications (e.g. Formatters)??
A: Yes, the NEXTSTEPª-based starter Application shows a list of SCSI
devices, where you can disable devices separately.
T15
Q: Can I attach a Macintoshª-formatted Hard disk to my NeXTª?
A: Yes. This works fine.
T16
Q: Do I need to buy an Appleª Laser Printer?
A: No. Use your existing black Laser Printer. We are working on a
Printer Driver for daydream which talks to this printer. In the
current Beta version, this driver is nonworking, but we hope to
finish this driver for the first release. We recognize the very need
of printing.
T17
Q: Can I add INITs (System Extensions) and CDEVs (Control Panels) to
my System Folder?
A: Yes. Unless the thing you want to add is an absolute hack, it will
work. We've seen daydream running more than 30 INIT's at the same
time - the same collection did not work on a Quadra 950ª.
T18
Q: Can I connect a modem to my NeXTª running daydream?
A: Yes! The latest Version now contains fully working Serial Drivers,
so you can connect serial devices, for example a Modem. Now, It's
possible to connect to various On-line services.
T19
Q: I hear you support only 8 Bit color?
A: daydream supports 12 Bit color.
The current Beta Version still has a bug which produces false colors
in Photoshopª and Illustratorª, but the rest works fine.
T20
Q: How compatible is daydream compared with a Macintoshª?
A: It's about as compatible as a Quadra 900ª or 950ª, what means
that daydream is very, very compatible. It's even compatible with a
lot of software that does not adhere to Apple's programming
specifications.
T21
Q: Do I have a Macª with daydream?
A: daydream demonstrations were sometimes suspected of having an
additional Macª built into the enclosure of the NeXTª Computer.
T22
Q: What technology is behind daydream?
A: QUIX engineers rewrote quite tricky parts of the Apple Macintoshª
Operating System in order to get it work on the NeXTª Hardware. The
nature of the black hardware is 'of a different color' compared with
Appleª Hardware, what means that nothing fits first. Almost all
hardware-dependent parts of the Macª Operating System have been
rewritten for the NeXTª hardware.
T23
Q: How can daydream access a NeXTª-formatted Hard disk without
having the NeXTª Operating System running?
A: daydream has software built in which knows how a NeXTª-formatted
disk drive is organized. This software searches the disks for NeXTª
files with the ending .daydream. If such files are found, they are
mounted to the Macª OS as a hard disk drive.
T25
Q: Can I attach a SyQuest removable or an optical drive? What kind of
SCSI-Devices can I attach?
A: Yes. You can attach Removables, Optials, Harddisks, CD-ROM's,
Scanners, SCSI-Printers and a lot of other SCSI-devices. It's almost
a standard Macintoshª SCSI Port, and due to the excellent NeXTª-
Hardware, it's fast.
T26
Q: Do I need special drivers for SCSI devices?
No. daydream is like a Macª. Use the Macintoshª driver that came
with your pheripheral. If you don't have the a driver for your
pheripheral, contact QUIX, we may have one.
T27
Q: I have a 2.88 MB SCSI Floppy drive attached to my NeXTª. Can I
use it?
A: Not at this time. QUIX will soon build a driver into daydream
which talks to this device, but we would also like to make sure that
the Format we create will be compatible with future Appleª 2.88 MB
disks.
T28
Q: There is a file server built into Apple's System 7ª. Does it
work?
A: Yes, you can publish you Disk Drives with this built-in System 7ª
Fileserver, and other users will be able to access your Files after
entering a Password. NEXTSTEP 3.0 useres with Appletalkª can access
it, too.
T29
Q: Can I use existing network resources with daydream?
A: Yes, you have full access to your Network, with all the
capabilities of a Macintoshª: For example, you have a built-in
fileserver which lets other NeXTª computers and Macintoshª computers
use your files. Or you can access other file servers. You can also
access Postscriptª Printers in the Network, run networking
applications like databases, and much more. The Macintoshª is well
known for its connectivity.
T31
Q: Can I run networked applications on daydream?
A: Yes, they think they're on a Macintoshª and you won't see any
difference. Examples of networked Applications are databases, like
Filemakerª from Claris.
T32
Q: Can I install networking extensions on daydream?
A: Yes. For example. you can install Timbuktuª from Farallon, a
remote-user communication product. Or, you can install network
servers, like Mail Servers, File Servers, Print Servers and others.
Of course, you can use such services also as a client, not playing
the rule of the server.
T34
Q: On what hardware and with what software did you write this Q&A?
A: On a 040 Cube, with Quark Xpress.
T35
Q: Do I need to keep the dsp-port dedicated to your device? Can I
load the software, disconnect, and connect a different device?
A: No, sorry, the box needs to be there.
T36
Q: When Mac System 7.2 comes out (or 8.0) can I upgrade the OS so I
can use the system to its full capacity?
A: We don't know what Appleª is going to do in their future System
releases, so there is no guarantee that it will work with the current
version of daydream. On the other hand, daydream was developed with
System 7.01ª, and worked with only one bug with System 7.1ª. (The
bug disabled Ethernet access. It's fixed now.) Concluding, daydream
does not depend on ONE particular version of the System File, but we
don't know what the future will bring.
T37
Q: Your Ad says daydream runs (almost) all Macintoshª Applications.
Is this merely a disclaimer or do you have a list of working
programs?
A: It's a disclaimer. We don't have a list of working programs (would
be too long), and there are very few incompatibilities with the
current BETA 1.32 version of daydream. Here are the known problems
after testing more than 3 GB of software:
->> Apple's DiskCopyª does not work, because it goes directly to the
Appleª Disk Controller Chip. Actually, going to the hardware
directly is not allowed in the Macª OS, but this programmer knew
better.
->> Acius 4th Dimensionª works, but when the time comes to insert
the copy protection disk, our work came to an end. Copy protection is
neither documented nor supported by Appleª, maybe they access the
hardware directly.
->> Now Menusª does not display the menu beside the 'Appleª Menu' in
the Menu Bar. In daydream, there is no Appleª in the Menu Bar (what
means that daydream is not a product from Apple Computer, Inc.), so
Now Menus is not happy without an Apple.
The current Beta Version (1.33) also has a bug which displays false
colors in Adobe Photoshopª and Illustratorª on Computers with Color
Monitors. We hope to fix this for the first release. (We know that
image processing is important)
We don't know of any other software that does not work, and we are
using daydream for more than five months now, testing all the
Software we can reach (more than 450 Applications).
If you have a question concerning one particular piece of software,
please send us an E-Mail. If it works on a Macintosh LCª, chances
are very, very good.
M1
Q: How much do I have to pay?
A: An Introduction Offer of $795 will be valid till February 31,
1994. Some legal factors seem to delay the introduction, and we'll
extend the offer by the delay.
M2
Q: I would like to get the latest information about daydream.
A: Send us your Email address and we'll keep you up to date with
official information.
M3
Q: You say you have some legal quirks to solve. I guess Apple doesn't
want to cooperate...
A: No, Apple is not the problem.
_____________________________________________________________________
daydream Q&A UPDATE V1.2 -> 1.3 daydream version: B39 NEW INFORMATION
_____________________________________________________________________
T40
Q: Have you fixed the color bug in Illustrator and Photoshop? (T37)
A: No. Apple said they will provide source code which is useful to
fix the bug together with the first ROM shipment. That's why we wait.
The first version will come without the bug fixed, followed by an
update, approximately 14 days later. It would be a waste of time if
we fix it now, because this would require much more work than if we
get the source.
T41
Q: Can you print now (to a NeXT laser?)
A: We are currently testing a version of our printer driver. We're
not happy because the quality of the output is quite poor (non-
aligned line joints, bad character kerning and so on). We don't think
that you would like this piece of software, and it neither adheres to
our expectations.
The option we have is to emulate a HP LaserJet and DeskWriter: There
is a good Laserjet Driver available from Apple, and HP sells a
Postscript Driver for the Deskwriter 550C, (check the licence
restrictions before buying it!) which would provide PostScript
support.
T44
Q: Is the NeXTDimension supported?
A: While we hear from the Internet that "it is a shame" if the
NeXTdimension is not supported, we would like to remind that NeXT,
Inc. does not provide us any hardware documentation beyond what's
shipped (or: was shipped) with NEXTSTEP.
We are currently working on a driver which supports 24bit color on
NeXTdimension boards, and we know that a lot of you have these
boards. But we don't know whether it's a shame if we can't do all at
once.
T45
Q: What are your priorities?
A: 1) Color Fix for Photoshop & Illustrator
2) NeXTdimension support
3) Printing support
1) will be done shortly after release [see T41], 2) and 3) will be
fixed at release time.
Non-priorities:
- Sound output
- Sound Input
- MIDI
T46
Q: Can I install non-U.S. System Software.
A: Yes. We have tested Kanji, Hongul and Arabic versions. Well,
tested is too much, we have tried to compose characters, to switch
the keyboard, and so on. With these versions, you're glad if you find
the 'restart' menu....
T43
Q: What is the minimum RAM and Harddisk recommendation?
A: 8 MB RAM, at least 12 MB of free hard disk space.
_____________________________________________________________________
NeXT and NEXTSTEP are trademarks of NeXT, Inc. Apple, the Apple Logo,
Macintosh, Mac, Macintosh Quadra 900, Macintosh Quadra 950, Macintosh
LC, System 7, Personal Filesharing, AppleShare, Appletalk, EtherTalk,
AppleLink, PC Exchange and Apple Disk Copy are trademarks of Apple
Computer, Inc. Postscript, Illustrator and Photoshop are trademarks
of Adobe Systems, Inc. SoftPC is a trademark of Insignia Solutions,
Inc. Filemaker is a trademark of Claris Corporation. Microsoft Word
is a trademark of Microsoft Corporation. Executor is a trademark of
Abacus Research and Development. Xpress is a trademark of Quark, Inc.
4th Dimension is a trademark of Acius, Inc. Now Menus and Now
Utilities are trademarks of Now Software, Inc. Timbuktu is a
trademark of Farallon Computing, Inc. HP, LaserJet and DeskWriter are
trademarks of Hewlett-Packard Co.
All other trademarks mentioned belong to their respective holders.
Mention of non-QUIX products is for informational purposes and
constitutes neither an endorsement nor a recommendation.
Specifications subject to change without notice.
_____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne)
Subject: putting a micropolis drive into a NeXTstation
Message-ID: <1993Dec17.212657.19035@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 21:26:57 GMT
Has anyone out there successfully replaced their internal drive on a
NeXTStation with a Micropolis MC2210 drive?
We got one, set its scsi id to 1, pulled out the silly little 100 Mb
drive and put in the Micropolis. Turned on the computer, heard the
computer and drive turn on, but got absolutely nothing. The screen
stayed blank, not even going through its "Testing system..." The only
way to turn the computer off was to unplug it. I tried disconnecting
the ribbon to the drive. The computer successfully ran through its self
test. I tried booting the computer with a cd-rom with its scsi id set
to 0 and got a gray screen instead. Nothing happened otherwise.
Also, I do not recommend buying a hard drive from Insight Direct. Even
though they have good prices, they are quite slow in sending out
orders, give incorrect information over the phone, and their technical
support staff is incompetent. They have never even heard of NeXT or
even Steve Jobs. Of course, their sales people claim the drives work
with NeXT computers...
--
Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu
"With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain."
Friedrich von Schiller
From: arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Problems powering NeXTstation down...
Date: 17 Dec 1993 21:19:59 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <2et7pv$fde@netnews.upenn.edu>
Folks,
Here's my problem. I have a NeXTstation that will not power down properly. When
I hit the power key from a login window (or click the power button on the
screen) the login box erases, the disk spins a little (as is normal) and the
opaque screen then just stays on. I hit the power key again and the machine
immediately shuts down. When I restart, the disks do an fsck and everything is
fine, but I can never get a normal powerdown without an fsck (real annoying).
Now a second machine is doing it...
By the way these are 25mHz NeXTstation running NS3.1 (did it under 3.0 as
well).
Please resond via e-mail.
Thanks in advance.
--
Dr. Noam Arzt 215/898-3029 (voice)
Director, Finance, Administration & Systems 215/898-9348 (FAX)
University of Pennsylvania arzt@dccs.upenn.edu
Data Communications & Computing Services (NeXTmail is OK)
Suite 221A, 3401 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104
From: pitakc@ursula.ee.pdx.edu (Pitak Chenkosol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: STB Pegasus video card.
Date: 17 Dec 1993 13:49:14 -0800
Message-ID: <2et9gq$4t4@ursula.ee.pdx.edu>
Does anyone got the STB Pegasus VLB 4MB VRAM video card work with Nextstep ?
If so which driver you are using and how well the card performs.
Any info is appreciated.
Sincerely,
Pitak
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne)
Subject: Re: putting a micropolis drive into a NeXTstation
Message-ID: <1993Dec17.224546.19565@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Dec17.212657.19035@cs.yale.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 22:45:46 GMT
In article <1993Dec17.212657.19035@cs.yale.edu>
jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (Jim Horne) writes:
>
> Has anyone out there successfully replaced their internal drive on a
> NeXTStation with a Micropolis MC2210 drive?
>
[my own story deleted]
With enough monkeys....
By random fiddling, I managed to discover the answer to my own problem.
It turns out that the SCSI ribbon that comes with the NeXTstation is
not compatible with the new drive. It should be, since it has the right
pins and everything. Using a different ribbon fixed the problems. I now
just have two extra feet of ribbon inside the pizza box :-(.
--
Jim Horne jhh@waldzell.physics.yale.edu
"With stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain."
Friedrich von Schiller
From: sav3@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (Sean A Varah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cheap NEC CDR-25 CD ROM drive works
Date: 16 Dec 1993 19:17:48 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: us
Message-ID: <2eqc8s$ors@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
Just wanted to let people know that I installed NS-FIP 3.2 successfully
using a super cheap NEC CDR-25 portable CD ROM drive (I think you can
still get them for well under 200), so it DOES work.
Now if only I could fix my mouse problem . . .
Sean
******************************************************************************
"it's not music if no one wants to listen to it"
Sean Varah, Columbia Universty, cello@woof, ta-sav2@cunixa.columbia.edu
******************************************************************************
From: mikek@css.itd.umich.edu (Mike Kuniavsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,umich.unix
Subject: Re: Black, 3 serial devices...2 ports.
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,umich.unix
Date: 16 Dec 1993 21:44:56 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD/User Services
Distribution: mi
Message-ID: <2eqkso$5s4@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <2eqj2h$57u@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Alex Tang (altitude@css.itd.umich.edu) wrote:
: mac as a terminal, i can't switch to using the printer. I'm assuming
: that I have to HUP/KILL something, but I don't know what.
: could some kind soul lemme know?
Under most BSD-type UNIXes, HUPping init (pid 1) causes it to reread
/etc/ttytab, which is probably what you want (or, at least, what you're asking
for ;-).
--
Mike Kuniavsky ITD/US UNIX Support
mikek@umich.edu (313)764-1178
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs
From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Subject: Re: Formatting an external floppy NS 3.1
Message-ID: <CHyHpK.n4@fafnir.com>
Sender: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA
References: <CHtBL2.58o@ensuing.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 04:27:19 GMT
In article <CHtBL2.58o@ensuing.com> Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com writes:
> Using NeXTSTEP 3.1, I cannot format in my external PLI floppy drive.
>
> This is the message that appears in the console:
>
> ---------
> /usr/etc/disk -i -h oghma -l "Floppy" /dev/rsd1a
> disk name: PLI SUPER FLOPPY
> disk type: removable_rw_scsi
> device = /dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 1 MBytes
> Disk Format in progress...
> ***Format Complete***
> writing disk label
> boot block extends beyond front porch
> --------
>
> I looked through the last six months of the various csn groups,
> but could only find various posters with the same problem.
> Did anyone ever find a work around for this problem?
>
> --
> _________
> Karl Kraft
> Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com (NeXT mail)
>
The only solution I have found is to replace your /usr/etc/disk with
the 3.0 version. Apparently NeXT tried to squeeze a few more bytes out
of the floppies and decreased the "front porch" to the point where the
boot blocks overlapped it. And, naturally, failed to fix it for 3.2 as
well. (Better explanation, anyone?)
I have tried to fix this by adding a disktab entry for the floppies,
derived from a properly initialized 2.88M floppy (using disk
interactively, command "label"). But it never works. Here's my last
attempt:
PLI SUPER FLOPPY:\
:ty=removable_rw_floppy:nc#80:nt#2:ns#18:ss#1024:rm#300:\
:fp#96:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=mach_kernel:z0#-1:s1#32:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#2784:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#2048:ra#0:oa=space:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
I'd be curious to know what is wrong with this disktab entry. Of
course, such an entry would not solve the problem in general, since
disk must be able to initialize 1.44M and 800K floppy discs as well.
--
The gentle journey jars to stop. The drifting dream is
done. The long gone goblins loom ahead; the deadly,
that we thought were dead, stand waiting, every one.
-- Walt Kelly Jim McKelvey mckelvey@fafnir.com
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From: klyfix@ace.com (Klyfix)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.mst3k
Subject: Re: This is probably a dumb question...
Message-ID: <1494.UUL1.3#25274@ace.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 03:30:51 EST
Organization: Argus Computerized Exchange
M{>In article <kiasyd-081293190136@ugl164.ccs.itd.umich.edu>, kiasyd@umich.edu
M{>(Jake Baker) writes:
M{>|> ...but there's no such thing.
M{>|>
M{>|> OK, in several episodes of MST3K (Mitchell was one, I can't remember the
M{>|> others), the guys have a thing they do when someone starts listing off
M{>|> names, ending with Tom saying "Chief" and Crow saying "MacCloud,"
M{>|>
M{> Maclead is in referance to the Highlander movie or the series...
Nope, it's a reference to the old McCloud series (part of the NBC
Mystery Movie) starring Dennis Weaver. The voice Crow uses is an
imitation of the Chief on that show. ------
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From: klyfix@ace.com (Klyfix)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mst3k
Subject: Outlaw of Gor...huh?
Message-ID: <1495.UUL1.3#25274@ace.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 03:30:54 EST
Organization: Argus Computerized Exchange
"OUtlaw", from _Outlaw of Gor_ ...urgh, what can one say?
This may well be the worst Sword and Sorcery type film ever, worse than
"Cave Dwellers" (Ator). I was nearly in shock at the badness of this
film, worse than the reaction to "Wild, Wild, World of Batwoman". It
barely needed misting...gad, the scene where the hero bends the sword
was hilarious straight. But Mike and the 'bots definatly got some good
licks in on this one.
One puzzling thing; John Norman has sold zillions of books in the
"Gor" series, but this movie is utter dreck. Maybe it works better as a
novel? I've seen the guy at the Arisa SF con in Boston;l and he seems to
be a fairly intelligent sort. Maybe he knows that dreck sells?
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From: rubd22@cris.com (Rubd22)
Newsgroups: rec.collecting.cards
Subject: E-Sports Online!
Message-ID: <421.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:04 EDT
Organization: CRIS
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There is a complete classified add section for selling, buying and trading
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From: rubd22@cris.com (Rubd22)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: E-Sports Online
Message-ID: <422.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:05 EDT
Organization: CRIS
E-Sports
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715-848-2508
E-Sports features forums for all professional sports teams, daily sports news,
sports games including football pools and a calssified add section for sports
card collectors. An entertainment section includes Mutants and Galactic
Empire.
There is a complete classified add section for selling, buying and trading
baseball and other sports cards.
The news section features game recaps, complete statistics, schedules and
news articles. The news is is menu driven for easy reading.
New users are given 30 minutes per day for 30 days to get acquainted with
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From: rubd22@cris.com (Rubd22)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: E-Sports Online
Message-ID: <423.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:06 EDT
Organization: CRIS
E-Sports
America's On-Line Sports Connection
715-848-2508
E-Sports features forums for all professional sports teams, daily sports news,
sports games including football pools and a calssified add section for sports
card collectors. An entertainment section includes Mutants and Galactic
Empire.
There is a complete classified add section for selling, buying and trading
baseball and other sports cards.
The news section features game recaps, complete statistics, schedules and
news articles. The news is is menu driven for easy reading.
New users are given 30 minutes per day for 30 days to get acquainted with
E-sports. We will take your unwanted sports cards or credit card on-line.
See details on-line to trade your sports cards.
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From: rubd22@cris.com (Rubd22)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: E-Sports Online
Message-ID: <424.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:07 EDT
Organization: CRIS
E-Sports
America's On-Line Sports Connection
715-848-2508
E-Sports features forums for all professional sports teams, daily sports news,
sports games including football pools and a calssified add section for sports
card collectors. An entertainment section includes Mutants and Galactic
Empire.
There is a complete classified add section for selling, buying and trading
baseball and other sports cards.
The news section features game recaps, complete statistics, schedules and
news articles. The news is is menu driven for easy reading.
New users are given 30 minutes per day for 30 days to get acquainted with
E-sports. We will take your unwanted sports cards or credit card on-line.
See details on-line to trade your sports cards.
Get in the game!
Get on-line to E-sports
Call 715-848-2508 today
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From: rubd22@cris.com (Rubd22)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: E-Sports Online
Message-ID: <425.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:08 EDT
Organization: CRIS
E-Sports
America's On-Line Sports Connection
715-848-2508
E-Sports features forums for all professional sports teams, daily sports news,
sports games including football pools and a calssified add section for sports
card collectors. An entertainment section includes Mutants and Galactic
Empire.
There is a complete classified add section for selling, buying and trading
baseball and other sports cards.
The news section features game recaps, complete statistics, schedules and
news articles. The news is is menu driven for easy reading.
New users are given 30 minutes per day for 30 days to get acquainted with
E-sports. We will take your unwanted sports cards or credit card on-line.
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From: rubd22@cris.com (Rubd22)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: E-Sports ONline
Message-ID: <426.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:09 EDT
Organization: CRIS
E-Sports
America's On-Line Sports Connection
715-848-2508
E-Sports features forums for all professional sports teams, daily sports news,
sports games including football pools and a calssified add section for sports
card collectors. An entertainment section includes Mutants and Galactic
Empire.
There is a complete classified add section for selling, buying and trading
baseball and other sports cards.
The news section features game recaps, complete statistics, schedules and
news articles. The news is is menu driven for easy reading.
New users are given 30 minutes per day for 30 days to get acquainted with
E-sports. We will take your unwanted sports cards or credit card on-line.
See details on-line to trade your sports cards.
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: E-Sports Online
Message-ID: <427.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:13 EDT
Organization: CRIS
E-Sports
America's On-Line Sports Connection
715-848-2508
E-Sports features forums for all professional sports teams, daily sports news,
sports games including football pools and a calssified add section for sports
card collectors. An entertainment section includes Mutants and Galactic
Empire.
There is a complete classified add section for selling, buying and trading
baseball and other sports cards.
The news section features game recaps, complete statistics, schedules and
news articles. The news is is menu driven for easy reading.
New users are given 30 minutes per day for 30 days to get acquainted with
E-sports. We will take your unwanted sports cards or credit card on-line.
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: E-Sports ONline
Message-ID: <428.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:14 EDT
Organization: CRIS
E-Sports
America's On-Line Sports Connection
715-848-2508
E-Sports features forums for all professional sports teams, daily sports news,
sports games including football pools and a calssified add section for sports
card collectors. An entertainment section includes Mutants and Galactic
Empire.
There is a complete classified add section for selling, buying and trading
baseball and other sports cards.
The news section features game recaps, complete statistics, schedules and
news articles. The news is is menu driven for easy reading.
New users are given 30 minutes per day for 30 days to get acquainted with
E-sports. We will take your unwanted sports cards or credit card on-line.
See details on-line to trade your sports cards.
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.lists
Subject: E-Sports Online
Message-ID: <429.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:15 EDT
Organization: CRIS
E-Sports
America's On-Line Sports Connection
715-848-2508
E-Sports features forums for all professional sports teams, daily sports news,
sports games including football pools and a calssified add section for sports
card collectors. An entertainment section includes Mutants and Galactic
Empire.
There is a complete classified add section for selling, buying and trading
baseball and other sports cards.
The news section features game recaps, complete statistics, schedules and
news articles. The news is is menu driven for easy reading.
New users are given 30 minutes per day for 30 days to get acquainted with
E-sports. We will take your unwanted sports cards or credit card on-line.
See details on-line to trade your sports cards.
Get in the game!
Get on-line to E-sports
Call 715-848-2508 today
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From: ufinet@cris.com (Bill English)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Where are my posts?
Message-ID: <430.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:16 EDT
Organization: CRIS
CW>: Is the moderator for this group killing all my articles?
CW>: If so, why? Worse still, I'm getting all this mail from
CW>: weirdos who don't "believe" in UFOs, which is fine w/me,
CW>: except they're saying that I posted something to the effect
CW>: that I don't "believe" in UFOs. Let me set the record
CW>: straight on that: I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN, AND UFOs ARE REAL!
CW>: Would the Jesus crowd please stop cluttering up my E-mailbox.
CW>: Thanx,
CW>: ChuckL
Yo Chuck! Could this be a government conspiracy to keep you
quiet???
Bill English
UFINET
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From: ufinet@cris.com (Bill English)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Government Alien Anno
Message-ID: <431.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:18 EDT
Organization: CRIS
WA>C'mon. Use your old bean. What about calculators. We supposedly got
WA>them as an outgrowth of chips which supposedly had to be invented
WA>(necessity is the mother of invention, right) for the Appollo mission
WA>or some such. And what about microwave ovens. And sattelite dishes,
WA>computers, and even televsion. Most of this stuff of aliens landing
WA>on earth and forming the alleged MJ-12 and all of that happened before
WA>I was even BORN, and even *I* can figure out that we didn't have all
WA>our modern technology back BEFORE this alleged alien landing. Sheesh.
WA>--
WA>Laura Watson lkw@falcon3.att.com
WA>Trying to free myself from anxiety-causing positive ion buildup.
HORSE FEATHER!!
I've been at this game for going on twenty years now and this has got to
be the most rediculous thing I have ever heard. I am willing to
acknowledge the fact that there is a government cover-up, but are we so
stupid that every technological advance we have must come from aliens..
Was Einstein and Alien (Hmmmmmm....then again)....
Bill English
UFINET
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Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: White House address
Message-ID: <432.UUL1.3#25345@cris.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 06:00:19 EDT
Organization: CRIS
Just as a matter of curiousity.....Does anyone know what Billy's address
on the Internet might be....I would like to send him a bit of Email..
Bill English
UFINET@CRIS.COM
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From: rebecca@winnertech.com (rebecca schneider)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.offered,misc.jobs.contract
Subject: SOFTWARE, COMMUN. & ENGR POSITIONS-CONSULTING & PERMANENT (NJ, NYC)
Message-ID: <165.UUL1.3#20566@winnertech.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 16:31:09 EDT
Organization: Winnertech Corporation
Winnertech, in Central New Jersey, is a respected ten-year-old
high-technology consulting firm, specializing in applying computer
and communications technology to our clients' needs. We're looking
for committed, top-flight technical people to work with our clients
in the NJ/NY area. Winnertech is a member of the National Associa-
tion of Computer Consultant Businesses (NACCB).
We offer challenging assignments, an enjoyable, supportive environ-
ment, competitive compensation, and group health, life and disability
benefits. A few of our positions (noted) are permanent placements
with our clients.
To make it easy to reply, we have ended each Summary line with a
Job No. whose first four digits are the month and day that we
received the job. Please refer to these numbers in your reply.
It is our policy to discuss a potential position with you before
presenting your resume to a client. We will only send it with
your express permission.
Our clients uniformly request that we provide them with experienced
people. If you don't yet have real work experience, it's unlikely
we can help you. We are unable to relocate those who do not reside
in the United States.
We welcome comments on the readability of this posting.
------------------------------
Subject: C/UNIX Programmer Analyst - MSDOS;;1207-02
Strong C, Unix, MSDOS required to perform applications
development. SQL, a relational database and C++ would be nice.
Experience (yrs): 4-6 Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Unix/C Programmer - X Windows or Open Look;Northern NJ;1206-01
Solid Unix/C, X Windows or Open Look to build graphics based
applications. Informix SQL, ESQL/C or 4GL required as is experience with SW
development quality methodologies. MSCS required.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Permanent position as a consultant
------------------------------
Subject: Unix Systems Administrator;NY City;1129-01
Perform normal systems administrations duties on an SCO machine,
including network management tasks and installtion of DOS products.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: UNIX Technical Support with Drivers experience;Northern NJ;1112-01
REOPENED-Experience in developing UNIX drivers in an SMP and
non-SMP environment; UNIX streams and interface standards (DDI/DDKI, SVID,
TLI),ability to work in uniprocessor/multiprocessor, fault tolerant/non-fault
tolerant environment. MSCS or EE
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Permanent position as a consultant
------------------------------
Subject: Sybase APT Workbench/C Programmer;NY City;1109-01
Need programmer with 2+ years of experience with Sybase APT -
Workbench and C, preferably in a VMS environment, to do front end input and
some C-coding on a charge-back system. Degree required.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator - Sun/Networking;NY City;1021-01
Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator with TCP/IP and Novell experience
to manage UNIX area, manage production and test prototypes. Degree required.
RIGHT-TO-HIRE.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: Senior Level UNIX/C Programmer Analyst w/X WINDOWS;Northern NJ;1012-01
5+ years experience with design, development and implementation
in UNIX/C (must have semaphores, daemons, signals, TCP/IP sockets. Knowledge
of the UNIX kernal would be nice. To work on a communications information
network application. Degree nice.
Experience (yrs): 5+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: SUN Administrator;NY City;0928-01
2 or more years of SUN Administration experience with any
database experience to do scripting, programming (in C), debugging,
maintenance and work with development automation tools. Degree required.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Senior Programmer, Sybase and Metaphor;NY City;0825-01
Senior Programmer with three years experience using Sybase and
Metaphor (or DIS) to develop applications for Sybase and DB2 back-ends. Must
have good communication skills. Degree preferred.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Permanent position as a consultant
------------------------------
Subject: Programmer Analyst - C, COBOL, TCP/IP;NY City;0824-04
Programmer Analyst with at least 3 years experience in C, COBOL
and TCP/IP to develop and debug code and prepare its documentation. 4GL
experience nice.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Manager-Applic. Dev., C, COBOL, TCP/IP, SQL;NY City;0824-05
Application development manager with at least 5 years
experience in the field to manage applications using C, COBOL, TCP/IP & SQL.
Also need knowledge of OS/2, DOS, Case tools & GUPTA. PC and VAX hardware
environment. Degree necessary.
Experience (yrs): 5+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: UNIX/C/Sybase Junior Programmer Analyst;Central NJ;0824-06
REVISED-Junior programmer analyst with 1+ years experience UNIX,
C and Sybase to develop financial and billing applications. Will consider
UNIX and INFORMIX if applicant has financial or accounting experience. BS
degree nice. Client Company will sponsor.
Experience (yrs): 1+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Sybase Database Administrator-Strong SUN/UNIX/C;Central NJ;0810-01
DBA with strong background in SUN Workstations, UNIX/C, and
thorough knowledge of Sybase SQL. Will manage transaction log, security and
system back-ups, do planning and evaluation of software, code migration, and
reconfiguration of server, as necessary. Statistical background helpful.
Experience (yrs): 5 Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: UNIX System Administrator with OS/2;NY City;0723-02
UNIX Sys Admin w/3 years exp., some OS/2, and at least 6 mos. in
a tech supt or help desk enviroment. Implement new systems, diagnose printer
problems, understand & check for UNIX errors (primarily related to file
systems) and write tools. Need a PROACTIVE person. Degree preferred.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: DB2/CICS/COBOL Programmer Analyst;;1210-01
DB2/CICS/COBOL skills needed to do general applications
programming.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Permanent position as a consultant
------------------------------
Subject: MSA Support Specialist - Various modules;NY City;1119-01
Support Specialist with 2+ years experience with MSA in one of
the following areas: general ledger, accounts payable, purchasing, inventory
or human resources. Degree preferred.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Sr. Accountant w.G/L Redesign Exp. + M&D G/L 2.03;NY City;1026-01
Sr. accountant w/track rcd in chart-of-accounts restructuring,
G/L and corporate reptg. Substantial systems bkgd, including M&D G/L 2.03;
client-server experience is nice. Also preferred: CPA and Big 6 experience.
New York City assignment.
Experience (yrs): 5+ Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: Senior P/A - Cullinet/IDMS/ADSO/Culprit;NY City;1008-01
Programmer with 5-plus years of experience with Cullinet's
General Ledger, versions 1.0 and 1.1, IDMS, ADSO, and Culprit to work with
financial systems. Degree preferred.
Experience (yrs): 5+ Type: Permanent position as a consultant
------------------------------
Subject: Senior Programmer Analyst - CICS/COBOL/VSAM;NY City;0929-01
Programmer/Analyst with 4+ years of experience with COBOL/CICS
and VSAM to migrate and maintain financial systems.
Experience (yrs): 4+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: IDMS/CICS Programmer Analyst;;0831-01
Strong IDMS/CICS skills needed to do coding and testing from
high level design specs. Application is accounts receivable, accounts
payable. PC skills nice.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Permanent position as a consultant
------------------------------
Subject: IBM Mainframe COBOL Programmer - Batch & CICS;NY City;0820-02
Programmer Analyst with 2+ years experience. Batch COBOL,
COBOL 2, and command-level CICS are required; DB2 is nice. Degree preferred.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Cobol/Sybase/Securities Programmer;NY City;0804-01
Three years exper. in fixed income analysis, portfolio
performance and tuning, COBOL and SQL, pref. Sybase, to do programming,
performance and tuning for securities company.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Technical Writer - UNIX & Sablime;Central NJ;1207-01
Excellent writing skills, familiarity with UNIX, Text Manager
and Sablime required. Experience with Mechanized Loop Testing desireable.
Knowledge of ISO 9000 requirements and exp. with process documentation
recommended. BS degree
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Permanent position as a consultant
------------------------------
Subject: Medical Writer;Central NJ;1111-02
Experienced medical writer with some database exposure and
fluency in Word Perfect 5.2 to create and revise documents in a clinical
setting. BS Required.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Permanent position as a consultant
------------------------------
Subject: HW/SW Integration Engr-Fiber LANs, Video Servers;Central NJ;1201-01
Engineer with both hardware and software skills to specify,
evaluate, procure and integrate the equipment needed for a testbed and trial
of a video communications service. Start with an empty room; end with an
operational system. Exposure to fiber LANs and video servers helpful. MSEE.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: HW/SW Technician-Fiber LANs, Video Servers;Central NJ;1201-02
Technician with both hardware and software skills to install and
integrate the equipment needed for a testbed and trial of a video
communications service. Start with an empty room; end with an operational
system. Exposure to fiber LANs and video servers helpful. AA/BEE degree.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: Voice Comm Anal.- Rolm/System 85/Intellipath 5ESS;NY City;1022-01
Voice communications analyst with 2+ years of experience with
ROLM ACD, System 85, Intellipath 5ESS and CSR to interview end-users,
design and program systems, update the database and interface with
programmers. Degree preferred.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Voice Communications Technician - AT&T/System 85;NY City;1022-02
Voice communications technician with 2+ years of experience with
AT&T and System 85 to work with end-users, update the database and interface
with programmers. Degree preferred.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Permanent position as a consultant
------------------------------
Subject: Sr. Systems Engineers: Wireless Comm Products;Central NJ;0904-01
Sr Sys Engr-resp for product certification, and liaison to mfgrs
of wireless data comm products for PCs/terminals. Reqd: exp. in design &
test of these products, hands-on test equip (protocol analyzers). Frequent
travel (some foreign). MSEE pref'd. UNIX/DOS devel. exp nice. Salary open.
Experience (yrs): 4+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Senior Programmer - Windows SDK;;1207-03
Solid Windows SDK background, plus C, UNIX, MSDOS to do
applications development. C++ SQL, and a relational database would be nice.
Experience (yrs): 3-5 Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Project Leader - Windows SDK;;1207-04
3 years Project Management experience, plus Windows SDK, UNIX,
MSDOS. A relational database, C++, SQL would be nice.
Experience (yrs): 3-5 Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: FOCUS Programmer Analyst;NY City;1122-01
Strong FOCUS background including the ability to create or
modify database structures and create or modify FOCEXECS for maintenance and
reporting. Proficient in VM, CMS & REXX; capable of operating in a PC/LAN
environment.
Experience (yrs): Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: Clinical Trials Database Manager;Southern NJ;1119-03
Solid experience in setting up Clinical Trials Database. MS
degree required.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: SQL/Windows Programmer Analyst;NY City;1108-01
Highly skilled Gupta SQL/Windows programmer analyst to do design
and development in a variety of applications. SYBASE SQL Server nice.
Position is located in Westchester County.
Experience (yrs): 5 Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: SAS Project Manager;Northern NJ;1022-04
8+ years SAS experience in pharmaceutical industry. 2+ years
supervisory background. Responsible for technical support of the site as
well as a small team of statisticians. MS degree.
Experience (yrs): 8+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Project Manager - UNIX, Oracle, C;;1018-01
Solid project management experinece to be responsible for a
staff of up to 5; time management skills. Also do design, development and
maintenance of financial/brokerage applications in UNIX/C/Oracle. BS degree.
Experience (yrs): 4+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Powerbuilder/C Programmer Analyst;NY City;1014-01
Strong Powerbuilder and C background. Oracle or Sybase nice,
micro and mini programming background (not mainframe) to work in team of 2-6
to execute projects. Financial services industry background nice. Must be
personable.
Experience (yrs): 3 Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Powerbuilder Team Leader with C;NY City;1014-02
Solid Powerbuilder and C needed; Oracle or Sybase nice, micro
and mini programming background (not mainframe) to monitor and organize
workload to team project plans. Financial services industry background nice.
Must be personable. Hands on - lead by example.
Experience (yrs): 3 Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Smalltalk Specialist. C experience helpful.;Northern NJ;0923-02
Very strong Smalltalk V or 80 plus C (nice) to replicate an
application built in C. Environment is OS/2, OS/400.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Permanent position as a consultant
------------------------------
Subject: SAS Programmer;;0902-01
To support clinical trials, write programs for standard format-
ting of reports. SAS tools, and clinical experience required, Oracle nice.
BS at least.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Senior level Tandem Programmer/Analyst;Northern NJ;0816-02
Sr.-level Tandem P/A with at least 5 years experience in the
Tandem environment. Will develop technical design specifications, test plans/
scripts; some system admin. Familiarity with the Tandem operating system and
hardware architecture, good communication skills and a degree are required.
Experience (yrs): 5+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Tandem Programmer/Analyst-SQL, C, COBOL w/OLTP bkd;Northern NJ;0816-03
Programmer with at least 3 years experience in the Tandem envir-
onment. Will develop new code and maintain existing OLTP and batch applica-
tions using SQL, C and COBOL 85. Good speaking skills.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: Sr. level SAS Programmer w/Heavy Pharmaceuticals;Central NJ;0608-01
Candidates must have 5 years of clinical R&D and NDA experience.
SAS BASIC, BASE, STAT, GRAPH and CONNECT. Will develop SAS programs, produce
tables, listings and graphs. WordPerfect background; experience with CANDA a
plus.
Experience (yrs): 5 Type: Permanent position as a consultant
------------------------------
Subject: Quality Assurance Specialist - MS Windows;NY City;1014-03
Very strong testing background to set up procedures, help select
test tools and create a testing environment for MS Windows. Must have MS
Windows. Manage 1-2 others. X-Windows testing background applicable.
Experience (yrs): 3 Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: PC Specialist - MS-Windows - FOXPRO;NY City;1209-01
PC Specialist needed to wire and install PC's and Novell LAN,
install SW packages (MS Windows, MS-Word, Access and Excel) some programming
in FOXPRO.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: PC Specialist with C;NY City;1119-02
PC Specialist with at least one year of experience to do
maintenance and troubleshooting; some C programming. Must have knowledge of
PC packages and be able to deal with end-users. Degree preferred; experience
with VAX nice.
Experience (yrs): 1+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: LAN Administrator/PC Support - MS Windows;NY City;1118-01
LAN administrators needed to wire and set up PC's on Novel
LAN and install MS-Windows, MS-Word, Access, Excel, etc. Frequent interaction
with end-users. Must have at least 2 years experience; Client-Server exp.
preferred - RIGHT-TO-HIRE.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Single-assignment consulting position
------------------------------
Subject: GUI Developer - C/MS-Windows/Powerbuilder;;1005-01
Programmer Analyst to design and develop front-end systems using
C, MS-Windows and Powerbuilder. Need 3+ years of experience and a degree.
Experience (yrs): 3+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Subject: LAN/WAN Network Admin.- Novell, TCP/IP, E-mail;NY City;0820-01
2+ years experience with the administration of Novell LANs,
and WAN, with experience in TCP/IP and electronic mail. Some mainframe and
PC background.
Experience (yrs): 2+ Type: Permanent placement with our client
------------------------------
Please apply to:
Winnertech Corporation Voice: (908) 758-9500
75 West Front Street Fax: (908) 758-9503
Red Bank, NJ 07701 Internet: rebecca@winnertech.com (ASCII format only)
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From: brantk@atlas.com (Brant Katkansky)
Subject: Re: Once again, using tape drives under Linux
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.124012.2341@atlas.com>
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
References: <KAIHP.93Dec6144912@idsun3.id.dth.dk> <jcejCHqo4v.EzC@netcom.com> <1993Dec9.154009.2656@TYRELL.NET>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 12:40:12 GMT
In article <1993Dec9.154009.2656@TYRELL.NET> stevem@tyrell.net (Steve Miller) writes:
>James CE Johnson (jcej@netcom.com) wrote:
>: I've been following (most) of this discussion and keep seeing
>: floppy tapes an SCSI tapes mentioned. What about just a plain
>: old 1/4" cart. tape drive?
>
>Yeah, What about the rest of the tape drives out there. I have an
>Archive VP150 Tape drive useing the VP402 controller card that
>works great for DOS and SCO Unix, but I have seen no mention
>of using this drive with Linux. Any ideas on setting it up?
>Anyone?
>
>I will post a summary if this hasn't been done already. If ther
>is a FAQ that I've missed please steer me in the right direction
>to find it.
>
Quite simple to do. Modify tpqic02.h (the pathname evades me at the moment, and I'm not on my Linux box at the moment) to suit your hardware, and recompile the kernel with QIC-02 support.
Works with pl13+ kernels, don't know about prior releases.
It's been working fine here on an Archive VP-150e and an Archive SC-402 controller. I get better than 5MB/min backup speeds.
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Organization: Scientific Placement, Inc.
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From: BGE@spi.com (BGE)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 1:52:18 CST
Subject: C++ programmers-EC and TX
Newsgroups:
Distribution:
Job Title & Location
C++ programmers-EC and TX
We have 2 clients looking for applicants who have object oriented software
development skills and proficiency in C++. Must have unix. In
addition, one
position requires expertise in RDBMS (Oracle, Sybase, SQL) and the other
requires
communication (IPC, sockets, DCE, etc.). MS winodws, X windows, Motif
would be a
plus.
Qualified candidates, please send resume to:
Beth Evancheck
Scientific Placement, Inc., P.O. Box 71, San Ramon, CA 94583
510-733-6168 Fax: 713-496-6802
Internet: bge@scientific.com; Compuserve: 71250,3001; AppleLink:scientific;
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US Mail on
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510-733-6168
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From: BGE@spi.com (BGE)
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 1:53:22 CST
Subject: Unix Utilities-Southeast
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Job Title & Location
Unix Utilities-Southeast
Unix Utilities Guru needed for client located in the Southeastern United
States. Must
have 4 to 8 years Unix System Programming experience. Programming in
target, C,
Cshell, and/or korn shell. Well versed in commands and libraries and strong
background in SCO Unix and X86 standards. Nice to have exposure to SNMP and
Windows.
Qualified applicants, please send resume to:
Beth Evancheck
Scientific Placement, Inc., P.O. Box 71, San Ramon, CA 94583
510-733-6168 Fax: 713-496-6802
Internet: bge@scientific.com; Compuserve: 71250,3001; AppleLink:scientific;
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discouraged
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Canadian
Citizen or have a Permanent Residence Visa. New graduates: Employers
utilize the
college placement offices to hire new graduates. They do not employ
recruiting firms
for this purpose. We are unable to assist recent graduates.
Beth Evancheck
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510-733-6168
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Path: sadtler!rick
From: rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris)
Subject: Re: DOOL: Returning Characters
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.125204.29746@sadtler.com>
Organization: Sadtler Research Labs
References: <CHHxIB.H5G@suncad.camosun.bc.ca> <1993Dec5.141333.6186@guvax> <2e4t2qINNr5m@eccdb1.pms.ford.com> <1993Dec11.211829.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 12:52:04 GMT
Roo Rote:
>Cher:
>>
>> And another comment: Didn't Steve have plastic surgery and lose the
>> patch before they killed him off? --> Cher
>
> Yes and no. He had surgery in the spring or summer of
>1989 and got a glass eye, which he wore during the church
>camp thing when he played Daniel. This story, as we all
>know, included good old Gail. Someone please cue Rick :-)
Oh Marcus! (heheeeeeeee)
>(but *no* singing!) Anyhow, he went like this for a while.
>While he and Marina were in Italy after the key, he was
>attacked by some of Victor's dudes. In a very graphic
>(IMO) scene, one of them basically went for his bad eye and
>gouged it.
As much as I liked Isabella, Marina was gorgeous! Now I
channel surf trying to catch those Pantine commercials...
"No dear, I'm looking for ... John Wayne movies...."
-Rick.
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Path: sadtler!rick
From: rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: For my lovely bride-to-be
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.130151.29846@sadtler.com>
Organization: Sadtler Research Labs
References: <2e5b3s$1fa@access.digex.net> <2e5cf6$rqv@jethro.corp.sun.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 13:01:51 GMT
My older brother wrote:
>
> My tastes still run toward Motown, although I am getting past
> my biases and listening to R .E. M. (at someone's insistance)
> and Pygmy Tribal Music (no joke - gimme gimme walla walla
> gimme walla). Not sure about G'N R. I may have to
> build up to that.
>
> toomces, who thinks Rick should stop grinning because it
> was an accident that I am older.
>
Well, I like Benny Goodman, Harry James. I like Buddy Holly
and Dion and the Bellmonts. I like the Supremes, Stevie Wonder,
and Three Dog Night. I like The Who, The Strawbs, and Procol
Haram. I like Black Sabbath and Blue Oyster Cult. I like
Billy Ray Cyrus, Laurie Morgan, and Lucinda Williams.
But R.E.M, Pygmy Tribal Music, and Guns and Roses?
I feel kinda like those "Waiting for better Days" folks waiting
for better Rock and Roll.
But then again no one has asked me to like those things. Perhaps
if the One True Love of my life said, "Oh sweetie, Dontcha just
Looooooooove Pigmy Tribal Music?" I might have to pretend...
-Rick. (Not in Middle Age Crisis as my older brother is...)
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Path: sadtler!rick
From: rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: Birthdays (Yuck!)
Message-ID: <1993Dec13.132405.177@sadtler.com>
Organization: Sadtler Research Labs
References: <roepk001.755382442@maroon.tc.umn.edu> <2e5ghp$rqv@jethro.corp.sun.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 13:24:05 GMT
>Suzanne M Roepke wrote:
>
>>Thanks for all the birthday blessings.
>
>>Random thoughts...
>>
>> ... But it just seems to me that celebrating your birth and cake
>>have nothing to do with each other. And when did cake become the big sign
>>of celebration?
>
Well, cake symbolizes the birthing ritual of a small South American tribe
of Pygmies known as the Coreognos. They were discovered in 1831 by
one of Toomces great-great-great grandfathers. He discovered the tribe
while searching for the Amazon Potato, a potato with more spunk than the
Idaho varity. He was lost in a thicket of jungle and thought all was
over when he came across a clearing and saw a pygmy woman giving birth
while the father ate a mixture of fauna and moss. He never found the
potatoes, but he did return with a custom that lives on today - the
Birthday Cake.
BTW: Toomces, in Coreognosese, means No Small Potatoes.
-Rick.
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: DSP-tuning possible?
Message-ID: <CI7L97.2AI@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <CHz1sx.3yH@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 02:22:18 GMT
In article <CHz1sx.3yH@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
hartmut@squirrel.cis.uni-muenchen.de (Hartmut Pfitzinger) writes:
#Hi All!
#
#Does anybody know if it is possible to speed up the Motorola DSP56001 to
#33MHz? I am very interested in doing that. Maybe there s a possibility if
#the old DSP is replaced by a new faster version, or are there other
#hardware restrictions that do not allow the speed-up?
#
You can't speed it up. It uses the same clock as the rest of the system.
There is also the issue about the static RAM speed and will the speed increase
exceed static RAM access times.
#What about DSP-memory-expansion?
NeXT made one that I have never seen but some people have them. There was
another group that made one that was the maximum the DSP could handle.
Kent
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From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Subject: Re: putting a micropolis drive into a NeXTstation
Message-ID: <1993Dec18.072022.8461@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
References: <1993Dec17.212657.19035@cs.yale.edu>
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 07:20:22 GMT
Jim Horne (jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu) wrote:
: Has anyone out there successfully replaced their internal drive on a
: NeXTStation with a Micropolis MC2210 drive?
: We got one, set its scsi id to 1, pulled out the silly little 100 Mb
: drive and put in the Micropolis. Turned on the computer, heard the
: computer and drive turn on, but got absolutely nothing. The screen
: stayed blank, not even going through its "Testing system..." The only
: way to turn the computer off was to unplug it. I tried disconnecting
: the ribbon to the drive. The computer successfully ran through its self
: test. I tried booting the computer with a cd-rom with its scsi id set
: to 0 and got a gray screen instead. Nothing happened otherwise.
My friend want to put a Micropolis 1.0G HD for a internal drive in
ColorTurbo station but found the power is not enough to drive it.
I don't know if the same happen to you ..
Mark
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From: u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***)
Subject: Why the Low Performace?
Message-ID: <1993Dec18.074935.9097@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 07:49:35 GMT
Thanks for those people answer me about the question of DPT 2022.
My fw is not the version listed in NeXTanswer.
It cann't work in NS 3.1 but work in NS 3.2.
I use AIR EISA VL motherboard
32M RAM
AMD 486-DX40
ATI GUP VL running 1120*832*60Hz
DPT 2022 SCSI card
Maxtor 1240S 1.2 HD (internal)
NEC CDR-84JD-1 (internal, Termination)
3C509 Enthernet card
but just got half performance of my upperclassman's DEC VL machine
with
20M RAM
i486-DX33
S3 805 running 800*600
AHA 1542B
Micorpolis 1.0G HD
what's wrong?
I configure ATI VL in EISA Bus Master mode in motherboard
configureation not ISA 8bit and DPT in 10M/sec transfer rate, use
write back.
Index of Driverperformance
Me 0.4 ~ 0.58
DEC VL 0.78
ColorTurbo 0.99 ~ 1.03
Does anybody has use Driverperformance to test your machine?
Any suggestion or test will be appreciated
Many thanks,
mark
From: wjs@omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Does DayDream exist? (Sounds sort of neat, kind of)
Date: 18 Dec 1993 05:10:20 -0800
Organization: The Omni Group
Message-ID: <2euvfs$1sv@yucca.omnigroup.com>
References: <1993Dec11.211433.20153@leland.Stanford.EDU> <2et40q$q26@noc.usfca.edu>
This DayDream thing sounds kind of neat, but they sure take a snotty attitude
towards "other" Mac emulators.
Possibly I'd be interested in it if I didn't already have a Mac that
I don't use (to be fair, I did use it for running Quicken, but then I
got QuickBooks, which only runs on the PC).
I worry about the longevity of this QUIX company, however. There weren't
that many NeXTs sold. Most of us who bought them still really dig
running NEXTSTEP on them. This product gives an either/or kind of
emulation; you either run NEXTSTEP or you run Mac software. Sure,
you can switch by rebooting, but if people were satisfied with that
kind of emulation would SoftPC for NS/Intel be doing so well?
I can't see shutting down my machine so I can run Mac software, if only
because my employees would all come and rip my lungs out the next time
they tried to access /LocalApps (which is on my disk).
Also, I wouldn't be able to get any work done if my NeXT were powered off.
How would I send faxes? Receive mail? Make notes to myself? Prepare
presentations? Look up addresses? Play Doom? And, heck, since we're
a software company, sometimes I even get an inkling to program. What then?
Let's face it, those of us who bought NeXTs bought them because they solve
a specific problem for us. We are all very aware by now that they don't
have a ton of commercial software and we really can't publish books on them,
but we have other needs that only NEXTSTEP fulfills. Those of us who
bought NeXTs for other reasons have pretty much sold them by now; gosh
knows there've been a lot of sales (and NeXTs are holding their value
pretty darn well, for dead machines).
So, there's probably some market of people who find it acceptable to shut
down their NeXT when they do Mac work; I suspect this is the vast minority,
since NeXTs network extremely well and people get used to being on the
network. (And, yes, Macs have networking too, and it bites. Sorry, it does,
and I'm running System 7 and it still bites. Where's my e-mail? Why is
printing so slow? Why can't I mount NFS volumes? Why'd Apple have to
invent their own file sharing protocol? Why is LocalTalk so slow? Why
do the new Apple ether connectors have a non-standrard plug that requires
a $67 dongle just to turn it into real ether?)
And, there's probably also a market of people who are unsatisfied with
their NeXTs and are happy to just bail and turn them into Macs. I'd
postulate, again, that this is a minority of users; most people who don't
like their NeXTs have probably already sold them and bought Macs, and
bully for them. Would that certain loudmouth complainers on c.s.n would
do the same.
So, we have two minority groups this product is aimed towards, but we
haven't even hit the kicker. The kicker is that there were maybe 50,000
NeXTs shipped. Figure maybe 1 NeXT user in 100 is gonna buy this thing,
and we're talking 500 units, max. (Someone correct me if my shipped
estimate is off.)
But that's not even the REAL REAL kicker. The REAL REAL kicker is THERE
AREN'T GOING TO BE ANY MORE NEXTS! NEVER! Yup, those 500 sales are all the
sales this company is ever going to see for this port. And, since just
nobody nor his dog is making machines with the 040 in them any more, there
really isn't anywhere for QUIX to take this technology. (Unless their
next product will allow you to turn your Sun-3 into a slow Mac.)
So, sure, it's a great hack, but if you were a venture capitalist, and these
guys asked you for backing, and you asked, "What's your 5-year sales plan?"
and they said, "Well, actually, once we sell our initial units there will
never be any more demand ever," what would you say?
Consider, now, that the "other" emulator company (Oh, heck, I'll come out
and say their name: Ardi) has written CPU emulation, and has a product
that runs on Intels, and another that runs under DOS.
Now, sure, since Ardi rewrote Apple's ROMs, their product has a couple
incompatibilities and is marginally slower for some toolbox calls.
But, it runs concurrently with NEXTSTEP; no need to reboot your machine
just to run Quicken. And, it runs on Intel machines, and I see no reason
why it can't be ported to Suns and HPs now. (Yah, Clifford, get cracking,
man!) And, it's cheaper.
So, in conclusion: DayDream - neat hack, might have thought more about the
marketing issues.
Now, if these guys came up with a dongle I could hang off my NeXT and run
a Mac in a window (or even rootless), and if they got the new Apple ROMs
that supposedly run on Intels, well, then, I'd say they'd be in business.
And there's no saying they won't do this, either.
But for right now, my feeling is that Ardi is still the emulator company
with legs.
-William Shipley
Omni Development, Inc.
From: garton@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu (Bradford Garton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: putting a micropolis drive into a NeXTstation
Date: 18 Dec 1993 15:13:29 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <2ev6mp$enb@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <1993Dec17.212657.19035@cs.yale.edu>
In article <1993Dec17.212657.19035@cs.yale.edu>,
Jim Horne <jhh@genesis5.physics.yale.edu> wrote:
>
>Also, I do not recommend buying a hard drive from Insight Direct. Even
>though they have good prices, they are quite slow in sending out
>orders, give incorrect information over the phone, and their technical
>support staff is incompetent.
I've purchased several drives from Insight and have been fairly happy with
their sales staff, etc. In fact, I just finished building a new Micropolis
1548 1.7 Gbyte drive I got from Insight (for $999!) and I'm getting upwards
of 2 Mbytes/second transfers on my cube! Many many thanks to Mike Allard's
clever "format_size.c" program for making the shift from 512 byte sectors to
1k sectors a breeze.
Of course, I haven't had to work with Insight's tech support... yet.
Brad Garton
Music Department
brad@woof.music.columbia.edu
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From: ptuomola@echelon.hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola)
Subject: What drives work in Nextstation?
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 17:07:44 GMT
Message-ID: <CI8q9C.2o6@echelon.hacktic.nl>
I read earlier here about problems when trying to replace the internal
hard drive of a Nextstation with other, bigger drive. I would like to do
that myself probably quite soon - replacing an 105MB internal with maybe
500MB-1GB internal drive.
Can anyone recommend any drives that work for sure? I don't want to order
a drive just to see that it is incompatible/needs more power/whatever.
Please reply using email, because other people here are probably not interested.
I'll summarize if wanted.
Thank you.
Petri
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Installation with Adaptec 1742B
Message-ID: <1993Dec19.053529.6020@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <1993Dec16.095202.332@cubenx.cube.de>
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 05:35:29 GMT
In article <1993Dec16.095202.332@cubenx.cube.de> oschmid@cube.de (Ottmar
Schmid) writes:
> Has anybody successfully installed NS 3.2 with an Adaptec 1742B. I know
that
> there is no driver for it, although it was announced for 3.2.
>
> But I have heard that it should possible to use the 1542B driver to run the
> 1742B in 1542B "emulation mode". This would be o.k. for some time. Any
> experiences???
Yes, you can configure the 1742 card to use non-enhanced mode, in which
it seems to emulate a 1542. NEXTSTEP works with the card in this
castrated mode.
I encourage everyone that purchased an Adaptec 1742 EISA SCSI card
because of the published NEXTSTEP 3.2 hardware guide to give clear
negative feedback about this disapointing situation to NeXT, and get
them cracking on a driver for full 32-bit EISA mode.
--
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PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu
Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Adaptec SCSI Controller
Message-ID: <1993Dec17.210452.10214@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <alan.93Dec17122657@softpac>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 21:04:52 GMT
In article <alan.93Dec17122657@softpac> Alan Goldberg writes:
>
> The Adaptec AHA1542CF doent appear to work with NS
> The Adaptec 1542C in the same configuration does.
> Any Ideas
>
> Thanks in advance
> Alan Goldberg
I read that NS/FIP 3.2 is required for AHA1542CF.
Cheers
--Fabien
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From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: HELP : NeXTstation won't power on
Message-ID: <1993Dec17.211306.10290@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <2erv9n$k3k@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 21:13:06 GMT
In article <2erv9n$k3k@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@soda.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau
Fung) writes:
> Hi,
> I don't konw what happens. I pressed the power key this morning
but
> the machine did not power on. I recheck all my cables and they were
connected
> correctly. I don't know what exactly the problem is. If you've similar
> experience, please email me.
> Also, I suspect it maybe something like a service module that
turns
> on/off the NeXTstation at a certain time. Could this be it? How can I
fix
> the problem?
>
> A thousand thanks. Just when I though I can enjoy the vacation
after
> the finals ...
>
> Oh. Please no NeXTmail. The machine is sick...
>
>
> --
> ===========================================================
> Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley NEXTMAIL OK and Preferred!!
> Email : tyf@ucsee.eecs or tyf@soda + .berkley.edu
> ===========================================================
If (lithium battery voltage < 3.0 volts)
replace (battery);
else
ask ("Bell Atlantic for power supply replacement");
:-)
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From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
Subject: Re: Raise RDP Exceptiion
Message-ID: <1993Dec18.220545.3985@weston.com>
Sender: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears)
References: <1993Dec17.153053.323@weston.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 22:05:45 GMT
In article <1993Dec17.153053.323@weston.com> jspears@weston.com (Wes
Spears) writes:
> I have been getting this error.
>
> Raise RDP exception 6 Code 3 subcode 0
> Waiting for RDP connection.
>
> This is on a Compaq Prosignia running NS/FIP 3.1
> EISA
> ATI EISA CARD
> ADAPTEK 1542C
> PAS 16
> SMC Ethernet Card
>
> I was wondering if:
> 1) Anyone knows what this results from?
> 2) Anyone knows how to fix it ordeal with it?
> 3) If it occurrs in 3.2?
>
This condition actually occurs after the computer has been running for
many hours. Sorry for this not being included.
Thanks
Wes
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From: shawk@panix.com (Sandy Hawkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DSP memory
Date: 19 Dec 1993 04:30:57 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <2f170h$fu8@panix.com>
I'm looking for expansion DSP memory for my TurboCube and TurboColor. What
are the specifications? Who sells it? Thanks.
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: BLACK PERIPHERAL POWER SUPPLY(S)
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 93 15:30:50 -0600
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2965332558.5.p00378@psilink.com>
I need a source for purchasing peripheral black power supply(s).
Please help, thanks.
James
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From: chisel.murphy.gun.com!samurai (Darcy Brockbank)
Subject: Re: Does DayDream exist? (Sounds sort of neat, kind of)
Message-ID: <1993Dec19.151315.25676@gun.com>
Sender: samurai@gun.com
Organization: Gotham Users of NeXT, inc.
References: <2euvfs$1sv@yucca.omnigroup.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 15:13:15 GMT
In article <2euvfs$1sv@yucca.omnigroup.com> wjs@omnigroup.com (William
Shipley) writes:
>
> This DayDream thing sounds kind of neat, but they sure take a snotty
attitude
> towards "other" Mac emulators.
Well...
NeXT took a snotty attitude toward Sun, IBM takes a snotty attitude
towards Windows, Microsoft takes a snotty attitude toward NeXT
(as did Sun), Apple takes a snotty attitude toward them all.
They're in business; they don't have to be polite toward their
competitors... after all, they're supposed to convince you
that their competitors offer an inferior product, and they
offer a superior one.
- db
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From: willers@butp.unibe.ch (Moritz Willers)
Subject: Switching off a color monitor for 45 min or not?
Message-ID: <1993Dec18.174750.16451@aragorn.unibe.ch>
Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 17:47:50 GMT
Title says about everything.
I would like to know what would be wiser.
Switching it off saves energy and lowers the electricity bill. Presumably
only by small amount when switched off for an hour (or so). What I don't
know is how much it affects the lifetime of the monitor.
Can anyone provide thumbrule?
The monitor is the 17 inch MegaPixel Color Display which came with my
TurboColor station.
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Moritz Willers
Institute for Theoretical Physics
Berne, Switzerland
willers@butp.unibe.ch (NeXTMail)
From: rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu (randal rencsok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SCSI disk exchange question.. 1.2G - 660M HD swap
Date: 18 Dec 1993 19:49:30 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <2evmsa$pbl@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Summary: Disk exchange
Keywords: SCSI disks, exhanging disks. Quesiont
Hello,
I have a slight problem. I am working on exchanging the current 1.2G
Dec drive with the origional fujitsu 660. I have been using the 1.2G as
the boot HD for some time. Since I have a dual SCSI external enclosure
I thought I'd remove the 1.2 from my 040 cube, and put both drives in
the SCSI enclosure (for easy access). So I put the 1.2 at id 0, and the
fujitsu at id 4 (for your information I also put my optical drive in the
cube as I planned on putting the 660 in the external enclosure for now).
Then I booted as usual, used BuildDisk on the fujitsu to install 3.0 on
it. There were some files that Builddisk claimed were changed but they
didn't look horribly important (i.e. usr/standalone/boot odmach, sdmach,
/etc/rc scripts were NOT in the list etc..).
I also have a Pinnacle PMO-650 optical drive at scsi id 5 which I have
used for a level 0 dump. I did this figuring after builddisk I'd boot off the
660 and do a level 0 restore. Well the builddisk worked fine. But when I
boot off the 660..
(i.e.
bsd(4,0,0) I get the following errors
SCSI: unexpected msg:1
sc: Unexpected msg
.. over and over again..
(I have disconnected the 1.2G at id 0, etc except removing the optical)
when I removed the 1.2G at id 0, after about three of the above messages
the booter moved to the pinnacle id 5 to try and boot, and since there
was not disk there failed, and I restarted..
Interestingly when I do a bsd(0,0,0) -a to boot off the 1.2G (with it
connected of course) It gets the drives as
DEC ... sd0
FuJITSU sd1
PMO sd2
.
.
root device? (i input ) sd1 to try to set sd1 to root (a longshot)
as I expected the mounted sd0 partition conflicting with
sd1 gives errors and hangs the filesystem..
Checking disks
/dev/rsd0a: file system clean: skipping check
mountfs: illegal mount request
mount: /dev/sd0a: /: invalid arguement
mount: giving up on:
/
.
.
etc.
then we get to
Mounting remote filesystems
where the machine hangs..
Now to my question. Has anyone tried doing a similar process to switch
drives? To me it looks like the boot program is not being installed on
the fujitsu by builddisk. Simply because if I boot bsd(0,0,0) off the 1.2
with the fujitsu attached everything comes out fine, (i.e all the disks are
recognized and mounted, even the fujitsu). So my feeling is that builddisk
is not writing something on the fujitsu (i.e. boot program). I could do all
the builddisk stuff by hand If I thought it would help (i.e. force the boot
program on with 'disk -b or sdform or the like, I'm working from memory').
Alternatively I thought to use a Cd-ROM again, but as I have to borrow one
to reboot this will take some time, which I'd like to avoid for the time being
IF possible.
Any ideas or suggestions would be welcome..
Randy Rencsok
rencsok@convex.cl.msu.edu
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help with TOSHIBA MK538-FB please !
Date: 18 Dec 1993 19:59:57 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I am having serious difficulties to get a Toshiba MK538-FB (1.2 GB) connected
to my cube. I suspect my dealer corrupted the SCSI administration data on
the disk (a DOS-shop, they always do low-level formats and other things
with new SCSI drives).
I know people got that model working with a NeXT. So, whoever has got one,
could you please :
1. Grab 'scsitools.tar.Z' from your favourite FTP site. (I'll send it
to you, if you don't have access to FTP).
2. Do a :
sense -t toshiba_target -l 0 -p 63 > toshiba.sense
3. mail 'toshiba.sense' to me.
4. Could you tell me as well, how the jumpers are set and wether you
reformatted your drive to 1024 bytes/sector ?
Does anybody know wether a low-level format on a SCSI hard disk destroys
the defective block handling ? If yes, is there a way to recover ?
Thanks in advance for your help,
Ernst.
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From: josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu (Josh)
Subject: 32bit at 1024x768
Message-ID: <1993Dec18.234508.143156@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 23:45:08 GMT
Put simply - how?
I'm looking for a new video card and would like to get 1024x786 32bit, but at
least 800x600 32bit. Do the S3 drivers do that? Which s3(928?)??
Anyone sell a card that supports nextstep that does this? Next says they
don't know of any (though I know there is atleast 1 over seas).
#9? STB? Matrox? Matheus? Actix? MediaVision?
thanks.... email or post :) Or yell really loud from a high window..
josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu
From: joef@pandora.ucs.umass.edu (Joseph E. Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: BusLogic 747 and Toshiba 3401 w/NSIP
Date: 19 Dec 1993 02:39:45 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <2f0eth$6j9@nic.umass.edu>
References: <CI0EAJ.s7@poly.edu>
Theodore S. Kapela (kapela@poly.edu) wrote:
: borrowed. I am ready to purchase my own drive, but I want to
: verify that the 3401 and the Buslogic 747 work together
: under NS/IP. If this does not solve the problem (I need a cdrom
: in any case), I can check cabling, board settings, etc, once
: again afterwards.
I use the 747S with a 3401 daily (actually two systems with that
configuration)...anyway, you need to make sure you get the right
ROMs with the 747S -- the new ones apparently don't work properly
with NSI -- look at the help files (available from nextanswers@next.com)
for the specifics.
Joe Fitzgerald
From: rcytowsk@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (Robert Cytowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: connecting HP 4MP to NeXT (black)
Date: 19 Dec 1993 02:52:17 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2f0fl1$q4l@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Hi,
Could someone please tell me if there are any problems in connecting
a HP 4MP postscript printer to a NeXT (black hardware - NeXTstation)?
What cable connections do I need?
Otherwise, where can I find information about which hardware will connect
to a NeXTstation?
Thanks,
Robert Cytowski
rcytowsk@uoguelph.ca
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From: df@watershed.com (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Subject: Re: Why the Low Performace?
Message-ID: <CI8vvq.2F0@ripple.uunet>
Sender: jaeger@ripple.uunet (Dirk P. Fromhein)
Organization: Watershed Technologies, Inc.
References: <1993Dec18.074935.9097@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 19:09:26 GMT
In article <1993Dec18.074935.9097@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) writes:
> Index of Driverperformance
> Me 0.4 ~ 0.58
> DEC VL 0.78
> ColorTurbo 0.99 ~ 1.03
>
On my Intel GX with a 1542CF and the MXT1240S I get:
1.46 Index with 1.7 for Write and 1.2 for Read
Now on the second run the cache seems to kick in and I get even better numbers.
Perhaps you have a bad cable or improper termination?
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From: taylorn@penshurst.com (Nigel Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Coaxial Digital Output on CD-Player
Date: 19 Dec 1993 16:42:21 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9312192033.AA10582@penshurst.com>
I recently bought a Denon stereo. The CD-player has a "Coaxial
Digital Output". The manual has no information on what standard
this conforms to.
It occurs to me that with the aid of some adapter
electronics, I might be able to plug it into the DSP port of
my NeXTstation turbo and thus get good quality samples off
CDs.
Need I say that, this would be for personal recreation
only, and not for commercial gain?
Anyone go any ideas of how to do this, or even if its possible?
Nigel Taylor
From: ecesys <ECESYS@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 32bit at 1024x768
Date: Sun, 19 DEC 93 17:44:49 EST
Organization: Delphi Internet
Message-ID: <931219.63889.ECESYS@delphi.com>
References: <1993Dec18.234508.143156@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Josh:
The 2nd Generation Wingine systems from eCesys will support
- 800x600x32bit color
- 1024x768 16 bit color
- 1024x768 8 bit greyscale
- 1152x900 16 bit color
- 1152x900 8 bit greyscale
- 1280x 1024 8 bit greyscale
This may not be what you are looking for , given that the Wingine Card
is integrated with our System.
We are currently shipping all of our new systems with this hardware,
and are in the midst of completing our own own eCe_Wingine driver
which will support the above resolution lineup.
Regards,
Marty
From: haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C Haugeland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Problems powering NeXTstation down...
Message-ID: <10351@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: 20 Dec 93 00:48:31 GMT
References: <2et7pv$fde@netnews.upenn.edu>
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Organization: University of Pittsburgh
In article <2et7pv$fde@netnews.upenn.edu> arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt) writes:
>Here's my problem. I have a NeXTstation that will not power down properly. When
>I hit the power key from a login window (or click the power button on the
>screen) the login box erases, the disk spins a little (as is normal) and the
>opaque screen then just stays on. I hit the power key again and the machine
>immediately shuts down. When I restart, the disks do an fsck and everything is
>fine, but I can never get a normal powerdown without an fsck (real annoying).
>Now a second machine is doing it...
>
>By the way these are 25mHz NeXTstation running NS3.1 (did it under 3.0 as
>well).
>
>Please resond via e-mail.
Recently, I have begun to have this same problem. My machine also is a 25mhz
monostation running 3.1. However, I never had the problem back when I was
running 3.0. One other difference: Often I can't even get the machine to
power down with the second hit on the power key -- I have to invoke the
monitor and power down manually. (BTW, even if I use 'halt' to get from
the NMI Mini-Monitor to the ROM Monitor, which is supposed to sync the
disks, I still have to wait through those fsck's at reboot.)
If anybody knows what's going on and/or what to do about it, please include
me on your mailing list (or post to this group).
John Haugeland
haugelan+@pitt.edu
From: develand@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (Darren Eveland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS/intel config help!!!
Date: 20 Dec 1993 02:16:27 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2f31tr$ar4@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
HELP. I successfully got my NS/FIP working on my 486, but then I
went and tried to set up comm port 2 but I saved the settings with
a interrupt conflict. Now when I go to reboot, it hangs when it
says "configuring device drivers..." it just stops!!!
At the boot: prompt I typed config=Default but it still hangs on
"configuring device drivers..." it worked before I tried to set
up my com2 port....now it hangs!!
Does anyone know what I can do to fix this problem???
thanks alot! Email please.
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From: rene@rkt.in-berlin.de (Rene Kulschewski)
Subject: PCI
Message-ID: <CIAq68.HC@rkt.in-berlin.de>
Sender: root@rkt.in-berlin.de (Operator)
Organization: Home in Berlin
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 19:01:19 GMT
Hi *,
are there any experiences with PCI-Boards and PCI-Grafix under NS 3.2 ??
If so, please response via email, I will post a summary.
PLEASE: Dont point me to the Hardware-Compat.-Guide, I know it. I only want
to hear about experiences ...
I need the information to decide:
-have to wait until NeXT officially support it (e.g. ATI GUP PCI) :-<
-can purchase now :-> (sure, after X-mas ...)
Thanx
Rene
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From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 32bit at 1024x768
Date: 20 Dec 1993 03:08:10 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <2f34uq$rl5@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <1993Dec18.234508.143156@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
In article <1993Dec18.234508.143156@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu> josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu (Josh) writes:
>
>Put simply - how?
>
>I'm looking for a new video card and would like to get 1024x786 32bit, but at
>least 800x600 32bit. Do the S3 drivers do that? Which s3(928?)??
>
>Anyone sell a card that supports nextstep that does this? Next says they
>don't know of any (though I know there is atleast 1 over seas).
>
>#9? STB? Matrox? Matheus? Actix? MediaVision?
>
Under NEXTSTEP 3.2, the STB Pegasus VL video card works at 800x600 in 24 bit
color. This is using the S3 drivers in 3.2. The performance is very good -
better than the 12 bit speed in 3.1.
It still does not work in color at 1024x768, only 8 bit grayscale, and it
does not work at all at 1280x1024. The card has 4 MB VRAM, and supports
resolutions up to 1600x1200 under Windows. Does anybody have any idea when the
official drivers for the Pegasus card will be released by NeXT?
Varun
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Subject: DSP memory
Message-ID: <1993Dec20.040013.5349@math.ucla.edu>
Sender: news@math.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 04:00:13 GMT
DSP memory expansion. Unless you are going to be doing your own DSP
programming, or have located some code that requires more memory,
everything that I know of assumes the default 8K words (and isn't even
capable of using more memory if it is there). The only exception I can
think of is the Music Kit, and David Jaffe (david@jaffe.com) would be
the one to answer that. If you have determined that you need more
memory there are two options. Option 1 is the board from NeXT that you
referred to. Option 2 comes from San Francisco State University as follows:
------------------------
Received by nextmusic: Fri, 15 Jan 93 17:18:44 PST
The Speech Recognition Lab at San Francisco State University has
developed a DSP memory expansion board for the NeXT computer that
provides the maximum memory supported by the DSP56001 processor. We are
now offering this board to those whose are interested in
high-performance custom DSP development.
-- The board is a 576KB DSP expansion memory board organized as three
non-overlapping 192KB banks: X-data, Y-data and Program. The board
uses relatively fast (<35ns) SRAM. This board compares with NeXT's DSP
memory expansion board, which offers only 96KB in an imaged memory
configuration.
-- The board is a high-quality, 4-layer board, open-circuit tested
prior to assembly. It fits into the DSP memory daughterboard slot on
all NeXT machines.
-- The price will be $600. Please let us know if you are interested.
Delivery will be in about 3-4 weeks.
-- Contact Tom Holton (th@ernie.sfsu.edu). E-mail is prefered. The
address is:
Tom Holton
Division of Engineering
San Francisco State University
1600 Holloway Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94132
415/ 338-1529 (phone)
338-0525 (fax)
Note: Because we've organized our memory as three separate
(non-overlapping) banks (X, Y and P) of 192KB apiece, none of the DSP
memory image functionality provided by NeXT with its existing 8K base
configuration, or its 96KB DSP expansion module is supported. While we
cannot guarantee that every existing DSP application ever written will
be plug-and-play compatable with our DSP expansion memory, we are not
aware of any existing applications that use the image functionality.
The MusicKit, and demo programs that use the DSP, such as Mandlebrot
and ScorePlayer, work fine with our memory module.
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Good Luck.
Charlie Dvorak
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From: murphy@well.sf.ca.us (Daniel A. Murphy)
Subject: Re: NeXT 400dpi printer to other hardware
Message-ID: <CIBHsx.14K@well.sf.ca.us>
Sender: news@well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
References: <rob-newberry.43.00126549@tamu.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 04:58:09 GMT
rob-newberry@tamu.edu (Rob Newberry) writes:
>Hi. I'm posting this for a friend. He's got a NeXT Station with the
>400 dpi postscript printer attached. He's thinking about getting
>rid of the machine, but he'd like to keep the printer.
>Actually, he'd like to keep his NeXT external CD-ROM as well.
>Is there any way to hook these things up to non-NeXT hardware?
>Which hardware? Macs, PCs, other workstations? Any info would
>be a great help.
>Thanks.
>Rob Newberry
>rob-newberry@tamu.edu
If you find out how to use the printer with a PC, let me know. I'm in
much the same situation.
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Multisync Monitor on Black NextStation Turbo
Message-ID: <CIBD7u.498@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
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Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 03:19:06 GMT
In article <mschwage.756146239@cssrjs> mschwage@next3.corp.mot.com (Mike
Schwager) writes:
#Ladies and Gentlemen, Moms and Dads;
#
#I have heard it said that one cannot possibly use an NEC 6FG or any other
#multisync monitor with a Black NeXTStation. Any thoughts why? Is it
#true? Have you done it?
#
#I can't believe it would be *that* nonstandard that you couldn't get a
#regular multisync to work with it...
With the color machines it's no problem.
Make sure the freq. are within range and
get the proper cable. With a mono machine
the *ONLY* thing that will work is a NeXT
mono monitor.
Kent
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From: jag@seguente (Jagdish Narasimhan)
Subject: BusLogic BT-742A
Message-ID: <1993Dec20.044553.26068@ximage.com>
Sender: usenet@ximage.com (Usenet accout)
Organization: XImage Corp.
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 04:45:53 GMT
Hi:
has anyone got a BusLogic BT-742A EISA SCSI controller
to work...was also wondering about the floppy controller...
The ROM revisions are -
5000006-4.50
5000007-3.31
Thanks for any info...
jag@ximage.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: PAS-16 Sound Card Install Problems
Message-ID: <westesCIBKz9.BAo@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 06:06:45 GMT
I have a MediaVision PAS 16 Sound Card that I want to configure
under NS 3.2. I booted DOS and configured the card to run DMA 0 and
IRQ 5. I disabled the Soundblaster compatibility. The test files
run by the install utility sound reasonably high quality, and there
is no obvious static on the speakers.
I boot NeXTSTEP, run Configure.App, and set the DMA/IRQ. I re-boot
NeXTSTEP and go into preferences and start testing some of the
sounds. In a word: it's awful. There is a horrible static covering
up the sounds that just doesn't exist when I run the card from DOS.
Anyone have a theory to explain why this would be happening?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: soward@neworder.slip.uky.edu (John Soward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT 400dpi printer to other hardware
Date: 20 Dec 1993 06:58:20 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Distribution: world
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References: <CIBHsx.14K@well.sf.ca.us>
In article <CIBHsx.14K@well.sf.ca.us> murphy@well.sf.ca.us (Daniel A. Murphy)
writes:
> rob-newberry@tamu.edu (Rob Newberry) writes:
>
> >Hi. I'm posting this for a friend. He's got a NeXT Station with the
> >400 dpi postscript printer attached. He's thinking about getting
> >rid of the machine, but he'd like to keep the printer.
> >Actually, he'd like to keep his NeXT external CD-ROM as well.
>
> >Is there any way to hook these things up to non-NeXT hardware?
> >Which hardware? Macs, PCs, other workstations? Any info would
> >be a great help.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >Rob Newberry
> >rob-newberry@tamu.edu
>
> If you find out how to use the printer with a PC, let me know. I'm in
> much the same situation.
> --
> -------------------
> Daniel A. Murphy Net: murphy@well.sf.ca.us
> San Francisco, CA Brevity is the soul of wit,
> U.S.A. especially in .signature files
Well, this is a tired old question, I dunno if it is a FAQ, but it is a fact
that it won't work...you see the NeXT printers really *aren't* 400 DPI
PostScript Laser printers, really they are 400 DPI bitmap printers, the
PostScript stuff is all in the NeXT...and to top it off a oddball high speed
serial port was used to transfer the (very large) bitmap data to the Printer,
so even if you are running NS/FIP you'd be out of luck...best suggestion: sell
it to a NeXT owner and buy a new printer with a postscript brain of it's own.
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From: smh@netserv.com (Scott M. Hinnrichs)
Subject: Re: Why the Low Performace?
Message-ID: <smh-191293232748@smh-mac.netserv.com>
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References: <1993Dec18.074935.9097@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <CI8vvq.2F0@ripple.uunet>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 07:25:00 GMT
On my Turbo Cube with a 1.3GB Seagate Elite (5.25" 3 years old) I get:
2.23 Index, Write 1.7, Read 2.7
I am going to put in a Barracuda drive soon, will post those numbers too.
Scott
> > Index of Driverperformance
> > Me 0.4 ~ 0.58
> > DEC VL 0.78
> > ColorTurbo 0.99 ~ 1.03
> >
>
> On my Intel GX with a 1542CF and the MXT1240S I get:
>
> 1.46 Index with 1.7 for Write and 1.2 for Read
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: HELP: NS3.2 install problems!
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc.
Date: 19 Dec 93 21:59:34 PST
Message-ID: <1993Dec19.215934.4347@crash>
First, the facts: Intel GX Pro with 16MB RAM, 329MB SCSI HD, Adaptec
1542C SCSI adapter. Machine had NS3.1 on it, worked fine. We hooked
up a NeXT CD-ROM to the SCSI connector, installed NS3.2 completely
successfully, and rebooted. (FYI, this machine was purchased from Alpine).
It came up and we signed on as root, and noticed it had changed the
resolution from 11xx by 832 (or whatever the true "NeXT" resolution is)
to 1024x768. So we ran Configure.app and changed it back to 11xx by
8xx whatever.
We signed off, restarted, and now when it finishes rebooting the screen
becomes gray, the mouse cursor is visible (and movable) and the hard
disk is busy, and then after a few moments the mouse cursor goes busy,
and that's it -- it stays there forever, we never see a nice NEXTSTEP
name/password dialogue box come up.
We have tried rebooting using config=Default, and that makes matters
much worse (it seems all the devices go unfound, incl SerialMouse) and
it always hangs at the "Starting file services" or whatever the message
is right after portmap and its related daemons start.
Now we can't use this machine.
PLEASE don't tell me I have to reinstall NS from scratch. There's got
to be a way to get this thing working again...
FYI, it IS possible to telnet or rlogin into the machine from a real
NeXTstation, when we boot it up normally and it gets stuck with the
busy mouse cursor as described above. So... is there anything we can
look for while signed on via telnet?
Any and all help/advice would be appreciated!!!!
-- brian dear / coconut computing, inc / brian@coconut.com --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Subject: Re: 32 bit graphics on Intel hardware?
Message-ID: <1993Dec20.095435.311@dart.de>
Sender: aspohr@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <9312151608.AA19946@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 09:54:35 GMT
In article <9312151608.AA19946@dcs.shef.ac.uk> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
(Malcolm Crawford) writes:
[Some info of the miro graphics deleted]
>
> resolution max colours refresh rates
>
> 1408x1024 65 536 70Hz
> 1280x1024 65 536 75Hz
> 1152x864 65 536 90Hz
> 1024x768 1.67 million 75/100Hz [*** i.e. 32-bit]
>
Beware! 65536 colors is what the card COULD do. However NEXTSTEP only supports
4096 colors in 16Bit mode (4/4/4 = 12Bit color + 4 alpha which do reach the
video mem).
32Bit mode DOES 1.67 million colors. (8/8/8 = 24Bit, so the last 8 bits are not
used. They are alpha and do not make it into video ram [as in 16 bit]).
As I write this I'm starting to think about the 8 bit grayscale modes. You'd
need a video-depth of (8/8/8) to simulate 256 shade of gray on a color video
card. Or you'd need a RAMDAC which would be capable of REAL 8 bit gray-scaling.
Normal VGA-adapters only use (5/5/5) so the maximum possible shades where 32 (5
bit). If you would use the 8-bit palette modes you could archive 64 shades (the
palettes use (6/6/6)). So my question: Where is next getting 256 shades of gray
from???
Atze
--
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Alexander_Spohr@dART.de (Mail ) Faces and faces
(+49) 40 / 380 23-0 (Sound) See them and complain not
(+49) 40 / 380 23-290 (Fax ) And am content with all
From: andreas@nanook.isbiel.ch (Andreas Stahel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Compaq Hardware for NeXTStep
Date: 20 Dec 1993 12:04:32 GMT
Organization: Biel School of Engineering, CH-2501 Biel, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2f44cg$lmu@vega.info.isbiel.ch>
Question: is there anyboy working with NextStep on a COMPAQ DeskPro/XE 560
with a Pentium processor ?
I am planing to buy such a machine, and want to know about your
experiences.
Please send Email to cip@odis.isbiel.ch
Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest-nscst-tnt)
Subject: Re: Problems powering NeXTstation down...
Message-ID: <CIC6Cy.Csq@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Originator: news@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
References: <10351@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 13:48:33 GMT
In article 10351@blue.cis.pitt.edu, haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C Haugeland) writes:
>In article <2et7pv$fde@netnews.upenn.edu> arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt) writes:
>
>>Here's my problem. I have a NeXTstation that will not power down properly. When
>>I hit the power key from a login window (or click the power button on the
>>screen) the login box erases, the disk spins a little (as is normal) and the
>>opaque screen then just stays on. I hit the power key again and the machine
>>immediately shuts down. When I restart, the disks do an fsck and everything is
>>fine, but I can never get a normal powerdown without an fsck (real annoying).
>>Now a second machine is doing it...
>>
>>By the way these are 25mHz NeXTstation running NS3.1 (did it under 3.0 as
>>well).
>Recently, I have begun to have this same problem
I have this problem, too - also a 25 mhz mono slab. But, I have a little more
data if anyone has any thoughts...
I installed a new 1gb drive at the same time that I upgraded from 2.1 to 3.1.
I completely installed 3.1 from scratch on the external 1 gb drive, and upgraded
my internal 250 mb drive.
If I boot off of the upgraded drive, I get the errant behavior described above.
If I boot off of the external drive ("bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1"), I can
shut down normally.
If I get a console and login as root, then go about killing a few daemons
(eg: lpd, faxess-or-so, ...), I can shut down normally even though I booted
off of the upgraded drive. I plan to experiment killing certain processes and
see which one(s) are the offending monsters. I did this because I noticed that
"shutdown" didn't work any more than trying to power down, and it always hung
at "killing all processes". The problem is that I have to wait through all the
fsck's when I power back up if it fails and I just haven't had the time...
Since I never shutdown, this seems to be ok.
I noticed another problem with my upgrade last night. It was the first time I
had tried to send a fax after upgrading. It didn't work. Eventually, I removed
DoveFax.pkg and re-installed it from scratch, and everything worked. Go figure.
Mark
--
Mark Wuest
mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (NeXT Mail Ok)
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: audio kernel server unloaded ad infinatum (disk, Motherboard problem?)
Date: 20 Dec 1993 14:56:12 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2f4eec$cn3@fermat.mayo.edu>
System:
NeXT Turbo Mono 16mb, 250mb, 3.0 base system (to start)
Networked to 10baseT, has a nfs server and a remote NetInfo Master
System started to exhibit slow response.
Finally, noting that the system was hanging on login window, we rebooted.
Upon Examination, the disk was dirty, with several files 'missing,'
including /bin/csh, .../Workspace.app/WM.app/PermissionChanger.tool, and
others. Since this didn't look good, I then blew away the disk and
upgraded to 3.1, thinking the install would likely fail soon afterward
if the disk was failing...
Installed to 3.1. Upon completion of the installation, and selecting
the keyboard, I see the arrow cursor, then the cursor disappears, then
I see the cursor, and again it disappears.... typing cmd-cmd-~ and
bringing up the messages, I get:
Dec 20 07:33:14 mrbill mach: Generic SCSI Device as sg3 at sc0 target 7 lun 7
Dec 20 07:33:14 mrbill mach: en0 at 0x2006000
Dec 20 07:33:14 mrbill mach: en0: Ethernet address 00:00:0f:01:16:96
Dec 20 07:33:14 mrbill mach: IP protocol enabled for interface en0, type
"10MB Ethernet"
Dec 20 07:33:14 mrbill mach: dsp0 at 0x2008000
Dec 20 07:33:14 mrbill mach: np0 at 0x200f000
Dec 20 07:33:14 mrbill mach: sound0 at 0x200e000
Dec 20 07:33:14 mrbill mach: root on sd0
Dec 20 07:33:22 mrbill reboot: Reboot complete
Dec 20 07:33:30 mrbill mach: audio kernel server initialized
Dec 20 07:33:34 mrbill mach: audio kernel server unloaded
Dec 20 07:33:35 mrbill mach: audio kernel server initialized
Dec 20 07:33:36 mrbill mach: audio kernel server unloaded
Dec 20 07:33:36 mrbill mach: audio kernel server initialized
Dec 20 07:33:37 mrbill mach: audio kernel server unloaded
Dec 20 07:33:37 mrbill mach: audio kernel server initialized
Dec 20 07:33:38 mrbill mach: audio kernel server unloaded
Dec 20 07:33:38 mrbill mach: audio kernel server initialized
Reinstalling 3.1 a second time fixed the problem for the most part,
but I have seen the problem happen once more.
Standard ROM diagnostics pass without problem.
So, my question is, Should I pursue this as a disk problem, or a motherboard
problem?
- Geoff
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Geoffrey Brunkhorst brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Research Computing Facility, Guggenheim 10 (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905, USA fax (507) 284-5231
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: Seagate 2.4G drives with NeXT cube?
Message-ID: <CICBHp.CG3@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 15:39:25 GMT
Does the NeXT (3.2) support Seagate 2.4G drives? Are there special
tricks (e.g., in formatting) to making one work?
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: pasqua@mv.us.adobe.com
Subject: Re: 32 bit graphics on Intel hardware?
Message-ID: <1993Dec20.183650.11899@adobe.com>
Sender: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
References: <1993Dec20.095435.311@dart.de>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 18:36:50 GMT
In article <1993Dec20.095435.311@dart.de> Atze (Alexander Spohr) writes:
> In article <9312151608.AA19946@dcs.shef.ac.uk> M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
> (Malcolm Crawford) writes:
> [Some info of the miro graphics deleted]
> >
> > resolution max colours refresh rates
> >
> > 1408x1024 65 536 70Hz
> > 1280x1024 65 536 75Hz
> > 1152x864 65 536 90Hz
> > 1024x768 1.67 million 75/100Hz [*** i.e. 32-bit]
> >
>
> Beware! 65536 colors is what the card COULD do. However NEXTSTEP only
supports
> 4096 colors in 16Bit mode (4/4/4 = 12Bit color + 4 alpha which do reach the
> video mem).
> 32Bit mode DOES 1.67 million colors. (8/8/8 = 24Bit, so the last 8 bits are
not
> used. They are alpha and do not make it into video ram [as in 16 bit]).
>
> As I write this I'm starting to think about the 8 bit grayscale modes. You'd
> need a video-depth of (8/8/8) to simulate 256 shade of gray on a color video
> card. Or you'd need a RAMDAC which would be capable of REAL 8 bit
gray-scaling.
> Normal VGA-adapters only use (5/5/5) so the maximum possible shades where 32
(5
> bit). If you would use the 8-bit palette modes you could archive 64 shades
(the
> palettes use (6/6/6)). So my question: Where is next getting 256 shades of
gray
> from???
8 bit grayscale uses a color palette with 256 grays. As you have pointed out,
on many VGA cards you end up with only 6 bits of gray resolution out the back
end. However, many of the newer VGA boards support this correctly yielding
"true" 8 bit gray resolution. In any case, NEXTSTEP is carrying around 8 bits
per pixel of gray information.
Joe Pasqua
Adobe Systems Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: your views please, for a new product
Message-ID: <1993Dec20.175534.20515@Princeton.EDU>
Originator: news@nimaster
Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 17:55:34 GMT
I am posting this on behalf of a manufacturer of NEXTSTEP-compatible
systems. This company shall remain nameless, to avoid any semblance
of advertising.
The current systems offered by the company are machines originally
intended for the DOS/Windows market, but they've been optimized for
NEXTSTEP by choosing the right peripherals, cache size, BIOS settings,
etc.
The company is currently puting together a new product that is
specifically designed for NEXTSTEP, from scratch, and would be
interested in your views concerning the following issues.
1. Do you have a preference for size: should the main case be a
slimline, a larger AT-size, or a mini-tower?
2. Should the case be black; if this is an option, would you be
willing to pay an "upgrade fee" (about $50) for a black system?
3. Should the system have integrated speakers for sound? [A current
option (a dark-grey-to-black AT-size case) has two speakers inside the
front part of the case (left and right sides) with a small internal
amplifier (connects right to the motherboard or to a sound card).] Is
this a desireable feature, not really necessary but okay, or not
desired, etc.?
4. Do you have a preference for an ISA or an EISA motherboard (to
complement the VESA and/or PCI slots)?
5. This is not a question. Please add any comments you would like.
Please respond to me (gpmenos@phoenix.princeton.edu) and I will
forward your e-mail to company for their review. Your names will not
be used in a later effort to sell you anything (this company does not
sell direct, anyway).
Thanks for any responses,
Phil Menos
gpmenos@phoenix.princeton.edu
--
G. Philippe Menos
gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bugni@cs.washington.edu (Paul F Bugni)
Subject: SCSI disk lock-ups, HELP!!!
Message-ID: <1993Dec20.184616.3059@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Sender: bugni@cs.washington.edu
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 18:46:16 GMT
Installing NS on intell has been an ongoing crisis. Finally used build-disk
from another system with success. However whenever I try to install anything
from the cd-rom I get the same lockup routine. Is it possible that this is
a bus/mother board problem? The lockup lights both hard disk and cd rom with
out the all important flicker or read/write sounds and I can only escape by
powering down. Termination and SCSI id's aren't the problem. I'm running the
Adaptec 1540/1542C with two Maxtor SCSI drives and a Chinon CD-ROM.
Any help would be appreciated.
Paul.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: briggman@rock.concert.net? Where are you, dude?
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 20:19:30 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Dec20.201930.17024@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
References: <athos-121293155058@mac_ara_1.natural.com>
athos@natural.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>Someone with the address of "briggman@rock.concert.net" has posted messages
>saying he sells NEXTSTEP systems. He advertises that his catalog is ready.
> Over the past 6 months, I have sent him 6 message, 4 of which he has
>replied to, but none of which contain this mythical "catalog."
>
>Where are you, man and WTFO?
Until I get the mouse I ordered (part of a starting point kit I payed money
for from Mr. Briggman), I'd say either forget doing any business with this
character, or he no longer exists and is just a figment of your immagination.
Over the phone, and through email, I have found him to *appear* exemplary
in nature, and willing to go the extra mile. However, the last I heard from
him, about five months ago, he appologized and promised to send me the mouse
that was missing in the starting point kit I ordered. If anyone wishes to hunt
him down, I will post the phone number that *doesn't* come up with a
Telephone Company recording that says his phone is disconnected ...
I will print an appologetic retraction if I receive a '030 mouse at the
following address (hint):
12328-51 A Avenue
Edmonton, Alberta,
Canada, T6H-0N3
Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn
From: wmorse@erasure-sl.cc.emory.edu (William Morse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP: NS3.2 install problems!
Date: 20 Dec 1993 22:02:28 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2f57dkINNgmc@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>
References: <1993Dec19.215934.4347@crash>
In article <1993Dec19.215934.4347@crash> coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian
Dear) writes:
> First, the facts: Intel GX Pro with 16MB RAM, 329MB SCSI HD, Adaptec
> 1542C SCSI adapter. Machine had NS3.1 on it, worked fine. We hooked
> up a NeXT CD-ROM to the SCSI connector, installed NS3.2 completely
> successfully, and rebooted. (FYI, this machine was purchased from
> Alpine).
>
> It came up and we signed on as root, and noticed it had changed the
> resolution from 11xx by 832 (or whatever the true "NeXT" resolution is)
> to 1024x768. So we ran Configure.app and changed it back to 11xx by
> 8xx whatever.
>
> We signed off, restarted, and now when it finishes rebooting the screen
> becomes gray, the mouse cursor is visible (and movable) and the hard
> disk is busy, and then after a few moments the mouse cursor goes busy,
> and that's it -- it stays there forever, we never see a nice NEXTSTEP
> name/password dialogue box come up.
>
> We have tried rebooting using config=Default, and that makes matters
> much worse (it seems all the devices go unfound, incl SerialMouse) and
> it always hangs at the "Starting file services" or whatever the message
> is right after portmap and its related daemons start.
>
> Now we can't use this machine.
>
> PLEASE don't tell me I have to reinstall NS from scratch. There's got
> to be a way to get this thing working again...
>
> FYI, it IS possible to telnet or rlogin into the machine from a real
> NeXTstation, when we boot it up normally and it gets stuck with the
> busy mouse cursor as described above. So... is there anything we can
> look for while signed on via telnet?
>
> Any and all help/advice would be appreciated!!!!
>
> -- brian dear / coconut computing, inc / brian@coconut.com --
>
---------
Actually, there is something you might could try. I do not guarantee
this will work, but you can give it a shot. Log on to the GX and
then su root. You must su Root or your changes will not be saved.
Then go NextAdmin and -NXHost Configure* back to your other NeXT.
EX: Configure* -NXHost <machine name>. Then change the config. and
reboot the GX. Hopefully, this will fix your problems.
NOTE: Be sure your account on the NeXT has public window server
activated. Otherwise you'll get a DPS client error or some such
message.
William
======================================================================
Consult. / ITD ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Emory Law Student
======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysdamin
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: HELP : NeXTstation won't power on
Message-ID: <CICtAG.4AB@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <2erv9n$k3k@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 22:03:51 GMT
In article <2erv9n$k3k@agate.berkeley.edu> tyf@soda.berkeley.edu (Tin-Yau Fung) writes:
>Hi,
> I don't konw what happens. I pressed the power key this morning but
>the machine did not power on. I recheck all my cables and they were connected
>correctly. I don't know what exactly the problem is. If you've similar
>experience, please email me.
[munch]
> ===========================================================
> Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley NEXTMAIL OK and Preferred!!
> Email : tyf@ucsee.eecs or tyf@soda + .berkley.edu
> ===========================================================
Could be your CPU board lithium battery is exhausted and needs replacing. See
P 295 in the original Next User Reference (Order # N6002). Doesn't seem to be
easily found in the newer manuals. On the cube a Matsushita BR-2/3A 3-volt
battery is required. It powers the clock and the power on switch, and
is claimed to last 5 to 10 years, but maybe the contacts are covered with
a film of sulphide or other contaminant that prevents the required voltage
appearing at the parts it is supposed to drive
david
--------
--
david hill: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca | Imagination is more
voice: 403-282-6481, fax: 403-282-6778 | important than knowledge.
nextmail: hill@trillium.ab.ca | (Albert Einstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin)
Subject: Re: briggman@rock.concert.net? Where are you, dude?
Message-ID: <CID2Fw.ty@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
References: <athos-121293155058@mac_ara_1.natural.com> <1993Dec20.201930.17024@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 01:21:31 GMT
In article <1993Dec20.201930.17024@ve6mgs.ampr.org> mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) writes:
>athos@natural.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>
>>Someone with the address of "briggman@rock.concert.net" has posted messages
>>saying he sells NEXTSTEP systems. He advertises that his catalog is ready.
>> Over the past 6 months, I have sent him 6 message, 4 of which he has
>>replied to, but none of which contain this mythical "catalog."
>>
>>Where are you, man and WTFO?
>
>Until I get the mouse I ordered (part of a starting point kit I payed money
>for from Mr. Briggman), I'd say either forget doing any business with this
>character, or he no longer exists and is just a figment of your immagination.
>
>Over the phone, and through email, I have found him to *appear* exemplary
>in nature, and willing to go the extra mile. However, the last I heard from
>him, about five months ago, he appologized and promised to send me the mouse
>that was missing in the starting point kit I ordered. If anyone wishes to hunt
>him down, I will post the phone number that *doesn't* come up with a
>Telephone Company recording that says his phone is disconnected ...
>
We had a nightmare dealing with him too. He was late by 4 weeks on
a shipment of three machines. It wasn't even the delays that annoyed
us and forced us to cancel the order. It was the fact that he would
promise something, it won't happen, and he disappear for a while.
He would just not bother to get back in touch. I'll be sitting there
waiting for the machines for a day or two frantically trying to reach
him. When I finally find him, he'll apologize, explain the problem,
and promise it'll be resolved Real Soon Now. This must have happened
4 or 5 times. To top it off, he'd complain to us about how hard
this order was - something he promised he could handle from the start!
Beware!
We ended up getting the machines from Alpine Computing... which
wasn't a Christmas story either, but at least I could find the guy.
While I'm here, do those who have Epson NX's find they are reliable?
We just had another fail... If only we had the time to get the LGI
machines... the one we have is rock solid.
--
Bill Chin - bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org - NeXTmail welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: chuck@benatong.com (Charles G. Bennett)
Subject: Re: Problems powering NeXTstation down...
Message-ID: <CICHCF.F4I@benatong.com>
Sender: usenet@benatong.com
Organization: BenaTong
References: <10351@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 17:45:50 GMT
In article <10351@blue.cis.pitt.edu> haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C Haugeland)
writes:
> In article <2et7pv$fde@netnews.upenn.edu> arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt)
writes:
>
> >Here's my problem. I have a NeXTstation that will not power down properly.
When
> >I hit the power key from a login window (or click the power button on the
> >screen) the login box erases, the disk spins a little (as is normal) and the
> >opaque screen then just stays on. I hit the power key again and the machine
> >immediately shuts down. When I restart, the disks do an fsck and everything
is
> >fine, but I can never get a normal powerdown without an fsck (real
annoying).
> >Now a second machine is doing it...
> >
> >By the way these are 25mHz NeXTstation running NS3.1 (did it under 3.0 as
> >well).
> >
> >Please resond via e-mail.
>
> Recently, I have begun to have this same problem. My machine also is a 25mhz
> monostation running 3.1. However, I never had the problem back when I was
> running 3.0. One other difference: Often I can't even get the machine to
> power down with the second hit on the power key -- I have to invoke the
> monitor and power down manually. (BTW, even if I use 'halt' to get from
> the NMI Mini-Monitor to the ROM Monitor, which is supposed to sync the
> disks, I still have to wait through those fsck's at reboot.)
>
> If anybody knows what's going on and/or what to do about it, please include
> me on your mailing list (or post to this group).
>
> John Haugeland
> haugelan+@pitt.edu
>
Well.. I went through this problem and what had happened is that I had a
"rogue" daemon that was refusing to be killed. The net result was that I
never lost any information but the system could not unmount root as it
shutdown. If it can't unmount root then the file system never gets marked as
clean and you get a fsck on the next powerup.
You can figure out if it's an unmount problem by running shutdown in a terminal
window (as root) and bring the system down that way.
try
shutdown now -p
This will tell the system to shutdown and poweroff
if you are going to have problems, you at least stand a chance of seeing
what the system doesn't like.
If you see a message like
failed to unmount root
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
or some such, I would be that you have a program thats refusing to die.
Good hunting
Chuck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: Re: 32bit at 1024x768
References: <2f34uq$rl5@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 01:53:43 GMT
Message-ID: <CID3xJ.BF3@percy.rain.com>
Another solution is the MiroCrystal 32S video board with 4 megs of vram.
I am still awaiting my board.. PCI version.. As soon as I receive it I
will let everyone know how it performs.
-steve
From: hickman@cse.unl.edu (Hubert B. Hickman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: TokenExpress troubles - anyone else had any
Date: 21 Dec 1993 04:20:24 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2f5ti8$15k@crcnis1.unl.edu>
References: <16CA31182B.BJANZEN@lexmark.com> <2enfbq$gbc@cnn.sim.es.com>
npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt) writes:
>In article BJANZEN@lexmark.com, bjanzen@lexmark.com () writes:
>> Yes, I RTFM's and made all the calls, and no luck. Is anyone else using this
>> card, or am I the first one on the planet? Interesting note - I'm not 100%
>> convinced NS would work even if the card worked - in Setup my Network is
>> setup as Intel TokenExpress, but the console says it's trying en0 during Simple
>> Network Starter. What gives?
>>
>> Barry "the glutton for punishment" Janzen
>> (as opposed to Wyoming "glutton for mutton" Ranchers)
>> bjanzen@lexmark.com
I have installed the card on Intel GXs and have also seen in work
in Compaq and Dell equipment. SNS may have its problems (the en0 vs.
tr0 business, which is still there under 3.2). However, if you just
continue onward after the error from SNS, what happens (I have a
couple of machines set up in a standalone fashion that used SNS to
set up their network with the TokenRing card). As an alternative, one
can go through the steps in the N&SA manual to set up a machine without
SNS.
A few points:
- Does the machine recognize the Token Ring card during boot? (Look for
a registering tr0 message).
- Do you get a successful open-complete interrupt?
Make sure that you have the ring speed (4/16) set correctly as well.
Hubert Hickman
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 21 Dec 1993 00:14:36 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2f60ns$sq8@digifix.digifix.com>
* new additions
Two new FTP sites on the other side of the planet.
This post is made weekly, to help 'point' users to more NEXTSTEP information
Topics include:
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
--------------------------
Comp.Sys.Next.Advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than
anything else in the known universe" forum. It was
created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars
from .misc.
Comp.Sys.Next.Announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community
(new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings,
commercial announcements etc.)
The NEXTSTEP FAQs are posted here monthly as well.
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't
post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed
to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator
(Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Comp.Sys.Next.Bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied
software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM
is not published, so this is a place for the net
community find out about problems when they're
discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise
ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really
belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to
crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but
individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-
specific groups as well.
Comp.Sys.Next.Hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible
peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g.
Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most
cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about
SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't
the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what
.marketplace is for.
Comp.Sys.Next.Marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must
not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but
may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation
or appropriate regional newsgroups.
Comp.Sys.Next.Misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you
post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in
c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!!
Comp.Sys.Next.Programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP
programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced
technical material.
The NEXTSTEP programmer FAQs are posted here.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions),
although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or
porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are
several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c,
comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
etc.) that may also be of interest.
Comp.Sys.Next.Software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software
products that run on NEXTSTEP systems.
Comp.Sys.Next.Sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues;
in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer
or .software.
related Newsgroups
------------------
Comp.Soft-Sys.Nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is
for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
Comp.Lang.Objective-C
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations
discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
Comp.Object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion,
but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At
times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then
again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher.
(The original Comp.Sys.Next no longer exists--do not attempt to
post to it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of
usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups
moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.*
newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
-------------------------------------------
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
-------------
cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
nova.cc.purdue.edu: Lots of older stuff, but very short on disk space
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: In Germany.
terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group)
cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp.next.com: See the below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
-------------------------------------
From the document 1000_Help from ftp.next.com
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, or you can transfer them by
anonymous ftp.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to NeXTanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to NeXTanswers-request@NeXT.com.
Written by: Eric P. Scott eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU and Scott Anguish sanguish@digifix.com
Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Screen Sizes, Once and for All?
Keywords: screen size resolution video memory display pixel
Message-ID: <Dec.21.00.17.26.1993.2265@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 21 Dec 93 05:17:27 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Hi All,
Boy, this intel video stuff is giving me a headache. Id like to
get it settled once and for all (wishful thinking :-) and understand
why there are certain display limitations on video...
Pixels/8bit* 2bit* 12bit* 16bit 24bit* 32bit
at:
640 X 480 307200 76800 460800 614400 921600 1228800
800 X 600 480000 120000 720000 960000 1440000 1920000
1024X 768 786432 196608 1179648 1572864 2359296 3145728
1120X 832 931840 232960 1397760 1863680 2795520 3727360
1280X1024 1310720 327680 1966080 2621440 3932160 5242880
1600X1200 1920000 480000 2880000 3840000 5760000 7680000
Now if I understand it correctly, NEXTSTEP supports the video bit depths
with the *'s. Which should mean that the following memories would allow
maximum display depths/areas of (barring silly math errors ;-) :
2bit* 8bit* 12bit* 24bit*
Video RAM:
512k: 1600X1200 800X600 640X480 N/A
1meg: 1600X1200 1120X832 800X600 640X480
2meg: 1600X1200 1600X1200 1280X1024 800X600
4meg: 1600X1200 1600X1200 1600X1200 1280X1024
So what I would like to know is:
-Why isn't 1600X1200@12bits or 1280X1024@24bits supported on 4meg VRAM
cards like the STB Pegasus?
-Why isn't 1600X1200@8bits or 1280X1024@12bits supported on 2meg VRAM
cards like the ATI? The ATI can do 1280X1024@8bits, but not 12bits, Why?
There seems to be enough memory to do the above maximum resolutions, why
cant intel based video cards take advantage of larger screen spaces?
Thanks,
Later, John
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP! BOOT PANIC!
Date: 21 Dec 1993 03:26:46 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2f5qdm$skl@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Help! In a misguided attempt to get CDPlayer.app
to work, I checked Public Window
Server on this stand-alone NS Turbo. Mistake. Now
when I booted, I get an error as the machine was looking
for the window server. I booted in single user mode, but have
no idea what to do - can someone step me through tthis?
Thanks
R. De lucca
Johns Hopkins Univ.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: SoundBlaster driver?
Message-ID: <CIDM82.3wz@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 08:28:50 GMT
There is apparently a driver for the Soundblaster card for NS on the PC.
Could someone please tell me where it is?
Thank's,
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
(no NeXT Mail please- yet)
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: smh@netserv.com (Scott M. Hinnrichs)
Subject: Re: Why the Low Performace?
Message-ID: <smh-211293015651@smh-mac.netserv.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Sender: news@pagesat.com
Organization: NetServices
References: <1993Dec18.074935.9097@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> <CI8vvq.2F0@ripple.uunet> <smh-191293232748@smh-mac.netserv.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 09:54:23 GMT
Looks like the Cube is about maxed out on disk I/O. With the Seagate
ST12550N Barracuda I get:
2.33 Index, Write 1.8, Read 2.8.
On some machines I get from 25-40% more speed out of the Barracuda vs. the
Elite 1.
Maybe there is more headroom for 32 bit controllers under NSFIP, if we ever
get the drivers...
Scott
>
> On my Turbo Cube with a 1.3GB Seagate Elite (5.25" 3 years old) I get:
>
> 2.23 Index, Write 1.7, Read 2.7
>
> I am going to put in a Barracuda drive soon, will post those numbers too.
>
> > > Index of Driverperformance
> > > Me 0.4 ~ 0.58
> > > DEC VL 0.78
> > > ColorTurbo 0.99 ~ 1.03
> > >
> >
> > On my Intel GX with a 1542CF and the MXT1240S I get:
> >
> > 1.46 Index with 1.7 for Write and 1.2 for Read
> >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Atze (Alexander Spohr)
Subject: Re: 32 bit graphics on Intel hardware?
Message-ID: <1993Dec21.105639.217@dart.de>
Sender: aspohr@dart.de
Organization: d'ART Computersysteme GmbH
References: <1993Dec20.095435.311@dart.de>
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 10:56:39 GMT
In article <1993Dec20.095435.311@dart.de> I wrote:
> (4/4/4 = 12Bit color + 4 alpha which do reach the video mem)
It should read:
(4/4/4 = 12Bit color + 4 alpha which do _NOT_ reach the video mem)
of course.
Atze
--
Alexander Spohr, Hamburg, Germany
Alexander_Spohr@dART.de (Mail ) Faces and faces
(+49) 40 / 380 23-0 (Sound) See them and complain not
(+49) 40 / 380 23-290 (Fax ) And am content with all
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
From: mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (Mark Wuest-nscst-tnt)
Subject: 3.X Powerdown Problem Fix (was Re: Problems powering NeXTstation down...)
Message-ID: <CIE0wG.H6q@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Originator: news@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
Sender: news@cbfsb.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 13:45:51 GMT
Well, Art Isbell sent me email after my post in which I discussed my slab
hanging when I tried to powerdown and how, coincidentally, I had to uninstall
and re-install DoveFax.app to be able to Fax after upgrading to 3.1 from 2.1.
He noted that one of his clients had similar problems shutting down and that
it was related to the Fax modem. (In his client's case, it could not shut
down if the Fax modem was enabled but physically disconnected at the time
shutdown was attempted.)
It was no coincidence. The Fax software was the culprit. It turns out that
re-installing the Fax software also fixed my shutdown problem.
It's kinda hard to pursue further at this point, but there would appear to be
a bug in the NeXT upgrade software that doesn't handle Fax modems/software
properly. The workaround is to uninstall and reinstall the Fax software after
upgrading. We'll see what happens when I get the nerve to upgrade 3.1->3.2,
but I imagine it is a 2.X->3.X problem.
--
Mark Wuest
mdw@sitar.jazz.att.com (NeXT Mail Ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: US Robotics FAXmodem
Message-ID: <kevin.93Dec2191450@oyster.wesleyan.edu>
From: kevin@oyster.wesleyan.edu
Date: 21 Dec 93 09:14:50
Mime-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plainLines: 11
I have a US Robotics 14,400/PC FAX Modem on my 486 PC. I am able to send/receive Faxes from MS-Windows using WINFAX/LITE software. I used the printmanager on Next to configure my faxmodem. The two choices given there, HSD and Interfax do not mean much to me. In any case, I tried to configure a total of four faxmodems, Interfax on paort a and b and HSD on port a and b. (My modem is on COM2, so I assume it should be port b). None of the four combinations worked. So, what am I doing wrong? Wha
t is the solution? Please send replies to me directly at:
ravishan@swan.wcc.wesleyan.edu
Thanks in advance.
G. Ravishanker
Wesleyan University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Seagate 2.4G drives with NeXT cube?
Message-ID: <1993Dec21.105025.18469@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <CICBHp.CG3@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 10:50:25 GMT
In article <CICBHp.CG3@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin) writes:
> Does the NeXT (3.2) support Seagate 2.4G drives? Are there special
> tricks (e.g., in formatting) to making one work?
>
> John Price-Wilkin
> jpw@virginia.edu
2^31 bytes (2,147,483,648) is the maximum size/partion!
If your 2.4G drive size is > 2,147,483,648 bytes or 4,194,304
512bytes-blocks or 2,097,152 1kbytes-blocks you will have to partition.
--Fabien
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From: npratt@glacier.sim.es.com (Nevin Pratt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 32 bit graphics on Intel hardware?
Date: 21 Dec 1993 15:50:14 GMT
Organization: E&S
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2f75vm$i9j@cnn.sim.es.com>
References: <1993Dec21.105639.217@dart.de>
In article 217@dart.de, Atze (Alexander Spohr) writes:
> In article <1993Dec20.095435.311@dart.de> I wrote:
> > (4/4/4 = 12Bit color + 4 alpha which do reach the video mem)
> It should read:
> (4/4/4 = 12Bit color + 4 alpha which do _NOT_ reach the video mem)
> of course.
I believe it should read:
(4/4/4 = 12Bit color, which is split into 5/5/5, or 15 bits, which is then
sent as a two byte word, or 16 bits, to the video memory. Therefore, 12 bit
color takes 16 bits per pixel of video memory).
You are technically correct that the alpha does _NOT_ reach the video memory,
but the effect is the same-- i.e., 12 bit color takes 16 bits of memory per
pixel regardless of whether the memory taken is main memory (DRAM, and
remember, all windows are *usually* also buffered in main memory), or video
RAM.
Reserving 16 bits per pixel *regardless* of where the frame is buffered
helps performance. Also, video cards typically work on byte boundaries,
so it's a little hard to only use 12 bits per pixel with many cards. They
will either be configured to use 8 bits per pixel, or else 16 bits per pixel.
Grayscale modes work a little differently, I believe. 8 bit grayscale uses
exactly one byte per pixel of video memory, but two bytes per pixel for the
windows that are buffered in main memory (which is most of them). Remember,
we *always* have to reserve some bits in main memory for the alpha-- but not
necessarily on the video card.
Nevin
From: hsla@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (SHERRI TURNER)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: briggman@rock.concert.net? Where are you, dude?
Date: 21 Dec 1993 10:30 EST
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <21DEC199310301714@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu>
References: <athos-121293155058@mac_ara_1.natural.com> <1993Dec20.201930.17024@ve6mgs.ampr.org> <CID2Fw.ty@nextsrv1.andi.org>
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <CID2Fw.ty@nextsrv1.andi.org>, bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes...
>In article <1993Dec20.201930.17024@ve6mgs.ampr.org> mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) writes:
>>athos@natural.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>>
>>>Someone with the address of "briggman@rock.concert.net" has posted messages
>We had a nightmare dealing with him too. He was late by 4 weeks on
>Beware!
Well, folks, I warned you some time ago!
This is not a new story. Perhaps it should be included in the FAQ so that
there will be no more innocent victims. Also this is a real abuse of the
usenet. I think he should be banned from here.
Any further motion?
Where is the so-called net-cop?
hs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: morinaga@ss.niaes.affrc.go.jp (Morinaga Shinsuke)
Subject: NeXT Dimensin [WANTED]
Sender: news@ap-a.cc.affrc.go.jp
Message-ID: <CIE9qv.KB1@ap-a.cc.affrc.go.jp>
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 16:56:55 GMT
Organization: Agriculture,Forestry and Fisheries Research Council, Japan.
Dear NeXperts,
I have a black cube NeXT and want to get a dimension
board. Does anyone have an information about it?
I don't know how to access NeXT sellers, if exists,
so it will help me to let me know how to do it, e.g.,
phone number. Used one is also welcome.
Please mail me: morinaga@mary.soils.wisc.edu
or tel me: (608)262-0415
Thanx in advance.
-shinsuke
8
From: ak75@ciao.cc.columbia.edu (Arbi Khodadadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ProAudio Spectrum 16 vs Logitech Soundman 16 SUMMARY
Date: 21 Dec 1993 18:13:32 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <2f7ecc$sps@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <2esie6$8te@email.tuwien.ac.at>
About comparing the Soundman 16 to the PAS 16. This is really not a fair comparison, especially on price. You should really compare the Soundman 16 and the PAS 16 basic. The PAS basic runs for about $100 or little more last I heard,
while the normal PAS runs for $150. The Soundman 16 and the PAS basic are the
SAME EXACT CARD, so why make a half valid comparison to the the normal PAS 16?
BTW, I have both a normal PAS 16 and a SOUNDMAN 16, both are great, it's just
a matter of do you want CD-ROM or not.
Arbi Khodadadi
ak75@columbia.edu
Farm the Duck in Your Head
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: harnton@world.std.com (James D Harrington)
Subject: Cable for HP Descjet 500 to 040 Station?
Message-ID: <CIEH95.L9v@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 19:39:04 GMT
Hi,
Well, I've lloked for this info iin the FAQ and the documentation, but I
still don't know how to hook up an HP DeskJet 500 or Deskwriter 500 to a
NextStation. It looks like some sort of special cable, but I don't know
where to find one. Does anyone either know where I can get one of these
or have one they could sell me. With finals upon me, I'd be greatful not
to have to run to the computer lab to use the Macs every time I want to
proof a paper. Thanks in advance for your responses.
James Harrington
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars Andreas Stole)
Subject: floppy disk death
Message-ID: <1993Dec21.195354.22609@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Information Technologies
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 19:53:54 GMT
I am using a black mono 040-25 machine with NS 3.1. Recently, after having
some problems with my internal floppy drive, I made several changes
including executing the next disk eject daemon from next.com. Eventually,
I found the real source of my problems -- a loose spring within the drive
which I easily reattached. Unfortunately, although the mechanical aspects
of the drive seem fixed, the drive is dead. Whenever I insert a disk,
nothing happens (not even the familiar motor noise).
Thinking that I ruined the floppy disk drive, I replaced it with a drive
from another machine. Now that drive also will not work! This leads me to
believe that I may not have a hardware problem, but may have inadvertantly
messed up my operating system software so that it will not recognize the
drive. If this is the case, any suggestions as to how to proceed would be
helpful. Thanks in advance.
-------------
Lars A. Stole
University of Chicago, GSB
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From: Florian.Gutzwiller@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller)
Subject: Compaq QVision 1280E - Performance?
Message-ID: <CIEJH9.B5v@eunet.ch>
Sender: usenet@eunet.ch (News Administrator)
Organization: EUnet Switzerland
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 20:27:08 GMT
Has anybody seen the QVision 1280E under NS 3.2?
While the card is still EISA, I'd expect, that drivers would use the
accelerators making it a fast card.
Comments appreciated ...
-Florian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
Subject: Re: Coaxial Digital Output on CD-Player
Message-ID: <1993Dec20.034624.8551@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <9312192033.AA10582@penshurst.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 03:46:24 GMT
Compact disk players with digital outputs - either coaxial or fiber
optic conform to the AES/EBU digital audio format standard. There
are third party products that allow you to interface these players to
your NEXTSTEP computer. Two companies come vaguely to mind: Harvard
Toolworks (Bill Southworth) and Singular Solutions.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
In article <9312192033.AA10582@penshurst.com> taylorn@penshurst.com
(Nigel Taylor) writes:
> I recently bought a Denon stereo. The CD-player has a "Coaxial
> Digital Output". The manual has no information on what standard
> this conforms to.
>
> It occurs to me that with the aid of some adapter
> electronics, I might be able to plug it into the DSP port of
> my NeXTstation turbo and thus get good quality samples off
> CDs.
>
> Need I say that, this would be for personal recreation
> only, and not for commercial gain?
>
> Anyone go any ideas of how to do this, or even if its possible?
>
> Nigel Taylor
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From: gfin@cyber.psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Subject: Number Nine GXE video card
Message-ID: <1993Dec21.200140.10406@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 20:01:40 GMT
I'm interested in seeing the NXBench numbers for this card. They are
not available in the Houston database. Is there anyone using the
#9GXE card that could run NXBench and tell me what the results are?
I'm looking for 1024x768 16-bit performance better than the ATI,
and have heard that the #9 (and maybe other S3-928 cards) are capable
of it. Thanks.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
From: lje0106@sigma.tamu.edu (Louis J. Everett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Can I replace internal Floppy drive on Next black?
Date: 21 Dec 1993 21:36:47 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2f7q9f$jo2@news.tamu.edu>
I have an internal floppy on a color slab. It has a misaligned head
(I am told). When I copy files to a 1.4 meg dos formatted disk, the files
are not readable on other dos machines. Since the only problem is when
Next writes the disk, I assume the Next disk drive is bad.
I want to replace it. Can I get a bargain basement fdd and stick it in?
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NeXT mail welcome
From: hdo@aludra.usc.edu (Hoan Do)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to Play Music CD on Next CD Player
Date: 21 Dec 1993 14:14:06 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: hdo@aludra.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2f7sfe$q69@aludra.usc.edu>
Can somebody tell me where to get the s/w that lets me play music
CD on my Next CD player? I have NeXTstation running 3.0.
Joseph Kim
From: ptuomola@hacktic.nl (Petri Tuomola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Repost: Hard drives that can be used to replace internal drive?
Date: 21 Dec 1993 23:13:23 +0100
Organization: Hack-Tic, networking for the masses
Message-ID: <2f7sehINNhg3@xs4all.hacktic.nl>
I asked last week for experiences on replacing the internal 105MB drive
of a NeXTstation with bigger one - names of drives that work for sure,
anything to notice etc.
I'm sure many people replied, and would like to thank all of them.
Unfortunately the disk of the mail server I use got corrupted and
I lost all the last week's email.
I would appreciate it very much, if you could please repost the messages you
had sent me. Many other people are interested in this as well, because I have
received this week many requests for a summary of answers.
Thank you very much again.
Petri
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From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: formatting Seagate 2.4G drive
Message-ID: <CIEMp1.9sr@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 21:36:37 GMT
I have a Seagate 2.4G drive that I'd like to format for a cube
and plan to partition it roughly in half. I've issued the command:
/usr/etc/disk -i -p 1000 -l "sea2.4" /dev/rsd3a
and I get the response
"Read of sector 0 failed"
Does anyone know if I have a bad drive or, the more likely case,
if I'm totally confused on what I'm doing? Any advice please?
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu
d3a
and I get the response
"Read of sector 0 failed"
Does anyone know if I have a bad drive or, the more
From: Olav Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: monomonitor gettting dull
Date: 21 Dec 1993 22:48:26 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2f7ufq$7vn@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi all,
Is there any way of brightening my screen. I have the brightness
cranked to the max and the screen is still really dull. I've had the monitor
for about 3 years.
___________________________________________________
B.Olav Anderson
Autodidact
NeXTSTEP CyberSurfer
e-mail olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca NeXT Mail? Of course!
Vancouver, B.C.
"I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to
elevate his life by a conscious endeavor."
H.D.Thoreau
From: adam@samsara.circus.com (Adam Beeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: How to Play Music CD on Next CD Player
Date: 21 Dec 1993 16:40:27 -0800
Organization: The Marshmallow Peanut Circus
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <2f851r$mrm@samsara.circus.com>
References: <2f7sfe$q69@aludra.usc.edu>
In article <2f7sfe$q69@aludra.usc.edu>, Hoan Do <hdo@aludra.usc.edu> wrote:
>
>Can somebody tell me where to get the s/w that lets me play music
>CD on my Next CD player? I have NeXTstation running 3.0.
>
Look in /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app... it should be there.
-Adam
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From: josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu (Josh)
Subject: Re: #9GXE video
Message-ID: <1993Dec22.025601.198713@zeus.aix.calpoly.edu>
Sender: news@zeus.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
References: <EA4JBF5V@math.fu-berlin.de>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 02:56:01 GMT
In article <EA4JBF5V@math.fu-berlin.de>,
James Powell <jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu> wrote:
>Is anyone using the #9GXE video card with Nextstep 3.2? How is the performance
I talked to #9 the other day, and they called next for me to find out
the status on the drivers for the new level 14 card (4 megs, 64bit ramdac).
According to #9, the drivers will be released in about 3 weeks - letting you
do 32bit at 1024. It's supposed to be very fast too (64bit ramdac vs. the STB
pegasus's 32bit ramdac).
I don't think it's going to be a cheap card though. Probably about $700.
>James Powell - Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU
> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here
josh@vegiwopr.calpoly.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: blumberg@media.mit.edu (Andrew Blumberg)
Subject: HELP
Message-ID: <1993Dec22.034824.10174@news.media.mit.edu>
Summary: Bootstrap
Sender: Andrew Blumberg
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 03:48:24 GMT
Hello.
Sorry, this is probably a silly question with obvious answers, but
I recently acquired a Next '030 cube, no HD. I have the OS on an optical disk.
How do I get the machine to boot from the optical disk? Currently when I
power up it simply reports a SCSI error. Forgive my ignorance, for I have
no documentation. Please respond soon; I am getting desperate. Many thanks.
- andrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Formatting an external floppy NS 3.1
Message-ID: <1993Dec21.214613.20004@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 21:46:13 GMT
Try this in /etc/disktab:
PLI SUPER FLOPPY|myfloppy:\
:ty=removable_rw_floppy:nc#80:nt#2:ns#18:ss#1024:rm#300:\
:fp#96:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\
:os=mach_kernel:z0#-1:z1#32:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#2784:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#2048:ra#0:oa=space:\
:ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
Then:
/usr/etc/disk -t myfloppy -i -h oghma -l "Floppy" /dev/rsd1a
Must work!
If not, try on an already formated disquette:
/etc/mkfs /dev/rfd0a 2784 18 2 8192 1024 32 0 5 2048 s (without yet
inserting the disquette, the workspace will ask you to insert the disk).
Then:/etc/disk -e /dev/rsd1a
Cheers
Fabien
(BTW:sa#2784= 2.88 Meg, does PLI SUPER FLOPPY support 2.88Meg density.)
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From: praveen@delta.ECE.ORST.EDU (Praveen Manapragada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: GPIB Card for the Next Station
Message-ID: <2f9166INN9d1@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
Date: 22 Dec 93 08:40:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.2f9166INN9d1
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
Could anyone give me information if there exists a GPIB Card for the NeXt
station. Please mail me at
praveen@ece.orst.edu if you have any information.
Your help will be appreciated.
Praveen.
From: laurie@eskimo.com (Laurie Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: looking for display drivers
Keywords: NeXTSTEP 486 video
Message-ID: <CIEqJ7.B9t@eskimo.com>
Date: 21 Dec 93 22:59:25 GMT
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
Hi. I am looking for a source of "unofficial" display adapters.
I have a Genoa 8500 and am looking for a NeXTSTEP driver. Does anyone
know where I might find one?
From: hawkwynd@toz.buffalo.ny.us (hawkwynd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Testing the E-mail...
Message-ID: <gate.c01Xec1w165w@toz.buffalo.ny.us>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 00:03:59 EST
*Matt Brinkhoff
*mbrinkho@midland.UUCP
*mbrinkho@nyx.cs.du.edu
Matt,
I am writing this note to check to see if my offline reader
works with the system that I am sending mail through. If you receive
this note, please respond, letting me know you received it ok. I would
greatly appreciate it.
Hawkwynd
Scott Fleming
Hawkwynd@toz.buffalo.ny.us
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: A sound card that works well on EISA?
Message-ID: <westesCIFn18.41n@netcom.com>
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 10:41:32 GMT
Can anyone recommend a sound board that is known to be
ultra-stable with EISA motherboards using 3.2?
I'm using a MediaVision PAS-16 on a NICE Super-EISA motherboard. My
configs are: DMA 7 and IRQ 5. The board works well at those
settings, but under any sort of stress test situation it is not hard
to cause a kernel panic and crash the system. One situation that
will reliably cause the crash is to do heavy asynch work at the same
time you are doing heavy I/O, and then to hit the backspace key on
an empty command line repeatedly. This produces a repeated tone,
followed by either a system freeze or a kernel panic. So, it works,
but it is not "mission-critical" ready.
At this point I am not sure if it is the sound card alone, or a
combination of the sound card and some other system setting.
If you have comments on the PAS-16 with the Super-EISA board, or
comments on cards that are known to work better with EISA, please
post that information.
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: coullet@sucre.unice.fr (Pierre Coullet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: IBM PENTIUM
Date: 22 Dec 1993 12:14:08 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Message-ID: <2f9dmg$ee4@taloa.unice.fr>
We are a little bit desesperate. Is NeXTStep running on the new IBM
Pentium with PCI bus. No infos on hardware guideline. They are rumor that
the ATI PCI card is not recognized.
Help.
Many thanks,
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From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: more on Seagate 2.4Gb drive
Message-ID: <CIFuCD.Con@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 13:19:24 GMT
I'm having no luck formatting/initializing a Seagate 2.4Gb
(ST42400) drive. I've got the jumpers set right for the
scsi address. It's terminated properly. I've tried it
with parity check of scsi bus data and no parity check (can
someone tell me which it's supposed to be?). No matter what
I do, it comes up with a message that it's unable to read
sector 0. Incidentally, the green heartbeat light inside
is flashing happily. My most recent attempt was a low
level format with
disk -F /dev/rsd3a
Any help would be appreciated.
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: titmouse!bshirley (C. William Shirley)
Subject: trackballs
Message-ID: <1993Dec22.152836.2753@gleap.jpunix.com>
Sender: bshirley@gleap.jpunix.com
Organization: The Republic of Texas
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 15:28:36 GMT
I don't usually keep up with this group, so if this is common knowledge,
could someone email me...
I want a trackball for my black hardware (ADB).
What kind are available?
Where did you get yours?
How do you like it?
(My mouse needs replacing, it's loozing about 20% of the mouseups, so I
get an automagic mouse drag all the time. Damn annoying. Also the
newfangled NeXT semisphere mouses were designed for people with small
hands, and are fatiguing for people with large hands - at least for me.
So much for all that money NeXT spent on ergonomic consultants for their
last hardware release!)
thanks,
- "Desk space challenged" bill
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From: coconut@crash.cts.com (Brian Dear)
Subject: Re: HELP: NS3.2 install problems!
Organization: Coconut Computing, Inc.
Date: 22 Dec 93 07:24:26 PST
Message-ID: <1993Dec22.072426.14779@crash>
References: <1993Dec19.215934.4347@crash>
A followup to my previous post.
Well, we tried everything. I was on the phone with NeXT all day it seemed,
at who knows what cost to my credit card, and after following their instructions
to reinstall the /NextLibrary directory from the CD-ROM onto the Intel GX Pro,
I rebooted, and STILL got the busy mouse and no loginwindow.
And by that time (it took approx 45 min to install /NextLibrary) it was a few
mins after 5 and we couldn't reach NeXT support anymore. So we decided to
do the fallback plan --- reinstall NS3.2 from scratch.
We did. It finished at 7:02 PM.
We booted. In the middle of the boot: SYSTEM PANIC!!!!
AAARRRRRRGH.
Why why why did we ever mess with NS3.2?????? I thought NS3.2 was the
big BUG FIX version??? For us it has been nothing less than a total
nightmare.
Has ANYONE out there with an Intel GX Pro ever run into these symptoms???
This is a stock machine. Nothing fancy. It worked fine in NS3.1!!!
Again, suggestions/comments/advice would be most appreciated! We're now
worrying that this machine will be down until after the holidays, and
this is something that just cannot happen!
-- bd
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From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: Using "Black" HSD scanner with INTEL
Message-ID: <G4BKBI4F@math.fu-berlin.de>
Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department)
Organization: Newman Library, Virginia Tech
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 18:15:22 GMT
I have a Scan-X color scanner from HSD that was purchased about a year ago.
I would like to move this scanner from the Nextstation to which it is currently
attached to a 486 clone running Nextstep for Intel. Is this possible? Is
there a driver for this scanner available? I would like to hear from anyone
who has tried to do this. Thanks.
--
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From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Problems with EtherExpress16 ?
Date: 22 Dec 1993 18:07:57 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2fa2dt$10l@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
I have an EtherExpress16 Ethernet interface, and I found
two problems with it:
1) When booting, the device driver says
"EtherExpress: 8 bit only" (or similar)
2) after a few minutes of flawless operation, the interface
will suddenly start to feel slow, with delays of several
seconds in telnet, for example, and the packet count will
exhibit a constant background level of about 50 packets/s
even if the system is completely quiet.
Can anybody confirm this behaviour?
Does anybody have a solution for it?
Thank you for any help you can give me.
I will summarize if I get results.
Andreas Windemuth
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From: hdwoernd@faui06b.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why the Low Performace?
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 12:46:07 +0100
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Message-ID: <2f439v$8k7@faui06b.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
References: <1993Dec18.074935.9097@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw>
u7913108@cc.nctu.edu.tw (*** Mark Lin ***) writes:
> I use AIR EISA VL motherboard
> 32M RAM
> AMD 486-DX40
> ATI GUP VL running 1120*832*60Hz
A QUESTION: Which driver do you use, to run the card at this res.?
(Because I work with 3.1, and want to have more than 1024x768)
...
> Index of Driverperformance
> Me 0.4 ~ 0.58
> DEC VL 0.78
> ColorTurbo 0.99 ~ 1.03
My Drive-Performance (Adaptec 1542C, Seagate ST11200N-1GB) is
around 0,75-0,80. So i think, it's the Controller.
> Does anybody has use Driverperformance to test your machine?
> Any suggestion or test will be appreciated
Bye, Harry
========================================================
Harald Woerndl-Aichriedler
Uni-Erlangen
cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (non-next)
From: hadden@cobber.cord.edu (Moulie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: New Pentium/PCI systems hitting market. Hopefully NS/i compatie
Date: 22 Dec 1993 11:44:56 -0600
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead Minnesota
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2fa12o$raf@cobber.cord.edu>
I've had NEXTSTEP 3.1 and now 3.2 installed on my bookshelf for some time.
Obviously I'm not being very productive with this current configuration.
I've been shopping for a new computer but decisions are tough.
I've seen lots of new Pentium systems being advertised in the Computer
Shopper. Gateway P5-60, AMBRA systems, and now the MICRON P60/PCI and the
TRISTAR P-5 PCI. These are all hi-end machines. The Micron and TriStar both
have 32Mb ram, large monitors (17 to 21 inch), PCI disk controllers (Fast
SCSI-2 on the Micron) etc. What I like about the
TriStar is that it uses a PCI Matrox MGA-2 64bit video card with 4Mb of VRAM.
This card will do 24-bit color at 1152x882. It would be really nice if there
were drivers for this card. The TriStar uses an Intel motherboard and Intel
flash BIOS. It uses the Intel Mercury chipset (has Intel fixed the PCI
bug that supposedly forces the Pentium's cache into write-through mode?).
Hopefully this means that it will be compatible with NEXTSTEP. TriStar is
known for their PC-based CAD systems.
Maybe someone out there is in the know. Please respond.
Thanks a million.
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I'm in no way associated with any of the above mentioned companies.
From: praveen@delta.ECE.ORST.EDU (Praveen Manapragada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Address of IoTech.
Date: 22 Dec 1993 21:01:10 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
Message-ID: <2facimINN5do@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU>
I received mail saying that a company called IoTech makes a SCSI <-> GPIB
interface for the NeXT station. Could anyone please mail me at
praveen@ece.orst.edu if you have the address of this company.
Thanks to everyone who replied to my earlier posting.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Using "Black" HSD scanner with INTEL
Message-ID: <1993Dec22.213433.16036@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <G4BKBI4F@math.fu-berlin.de>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 21:34:33 GMT
In article <G4BKBI4F@math.fu-berlin.de> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James
Powell) writes:
> I have a Scan-X color scanner from HSD that was purchased about a year ago.
> I would like to move this scanner from the Nextstation to which it is
currently
> attached to a 486 clone running Nextstep for Intel. Is this possible? Is
> there a driver for this scanner available?
We just received a MAB version of PowerScan from HSD. The software seems
to run fine, but the first attempt at hardware connection didn't let the
DEC MTE system (Adaptec 1742 in bogus 16-bit mode) see the scanner. More
attempts after the holidays!
--
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From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Using "Black" HSD scanner with INTEL
Date: 22 Dec 1993 21:53:07 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2fafk3$2b4@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <1993Dec22.213433.16036@cs.yale.edu>
In article <G4BKBI4F@math.fu-berlin.de> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James
Powell) writes:
> I have a Scan-X color scanner from HSD that was purchased about a year ago.
> I would like to move this scanner from the Nextstation to which it is
currently
> attached to a 486 clone running Nextstep for Intel. Is this possible? Is
> there a driver for this scanner available?
We have an HSD Black and White Scanner along with the HSD PowerScan software.
I've had no trouble moving it back and forth between a NeXTstation and a
Gateway 2000 DX2/66 with an Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: continuing saga of 2.4Gb Seagate drive (disktab, anyone?)
Message-ID: <CIGJrE.AJ@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Keywords: disktab, partition
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 22:28:26 GMT
I'm still wrestling with the Seagate drive. My early attempts
to low-level format it with /usr/etc/disk -F failed, and looking
in my old NS sysadmin volume I found sdform. It worked, and now
I can even do disk -F. However, when I do a
disk -i -p 1000000
and get a decent split of the disk, I also get a boot block written
to the disk. The "disk" man page seems to suggest that if I put in a
disktab, I can avoid that. I haven't had any luck. I do seem to
get somewhere by doing
/usr/etc/disk -i -p 1000000 -l "sea2.4" /dev/rsd3a
That is, a partition is made and I can mount sd1a and sd2a, but
the system clearly responds that a boot block has been written.
Is this (the second way) the correct approach? (That is, is the boot
block not really there?)
Am I getting the most space and performance out of the disk by doing:
/usr/etc/disk -i -p 1000000 -l "sea2.4" /dev/rsd3a
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: A sound card that works well on EISA?
Message-ID: <Dec.22.19.35.42.1993.14494@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 23 Dec 93 00:35:42 GMT
References: <westesCIFn18.41n@netcom.com>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>followed by either a system freeze or a kernel panic. So, it works,
>but it is not "mission-critical" ready.
Sound is definatly not ready for prime time on NSi systems. I have a NICE
SUPER EISA Rev 1 board. The PAS on it dies too often... Anyway, Ive got $200
dying to go into the pocket of whomever develops a nice stable DSP board that
is compatible with old NeXT DSP work (especially Music Kit). I really have
gotton tired of this PC hardware mess... I cant wait to buy an integrated
PowerPC or Sun system ASAP!
Later, John
From: briggman@rock.concert.net (David B Briggman -- Personal Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: briggman@rock.concert.net? Where are you, dude?
Date: 23 Dec 1993 02:49:02 GMT
Organization: CONCERT-Connect Public Access UNIX
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2fb0uu$3n8@inxs.concert.net>
References: <athos-121293155058@mac_ara_1.natural.com> <1993Dec20.201930.17024@ve6mgs.ampr.org> <CID2Fw.ty@nextsrv1.andi.org> <21DEC199310301714@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu>
You know, there is a tremendous demand on the time demands of resellers. I
wrongly posted that ABS had a catalog of products that was read to be NeXTmailed
, ASCIImailed, faxed or mailed to most anyone who wanted onejust before 3.2
came out - THE CATALOG STILL ISN'T OUT.
I have currently some 460 requests for the Catalog which I'd really like to get
out before the end of 1993, however, I also have daily contact with my customer
base in North Carolina that I bitched to NeXT about on a consistent basis for
THREE years while NeXT had no presence in this state.p
Then on occasion, you get customers who order DPT ISA SCSI controllers going
into a low-end system (which NEVER worked under 3.1) and order 17" monitors
which from October to present-day all three major hardware distributors have
literally (THOUSANDS) (Ingram has 4000 Sony CPD-1730 currently on backorder
for delivery in late January 1994).
My primary fault in this fault pursuit, is the same problem most NeXT
developer have had - we are all trying to get a business going with some
times not enough resources, in my case it's manpower.
MANPOWER issues have been solved however effective 1 January when I have
an adminstrative person who is infinitely more organized than I taking care
of email requests, faxes, calls, etc. Requests for the catalog will be full-
filled as soon as complete - I am not vacationing for Christmas so that I can
complete this task. Remember also that ABS has a continually growing
customer base locally that must be taken care of.t
Last but not least - remember that all resellers that you have probably
dealt with probably know the others as we are a smaller subset of the total
NeXT community. For those who know NeXTSTEP we are an even smaller minority
than all of us in total.
I lied - one last thing. Just because one is slow on occasion doesn't mean
one is stealing from his customers as was the inference the female from
THE PREFERRED UNIVERSITY in Virginia made. ABS has never dealt with her or
heard of her before.
Dave Briggman
effective 15 January 1994 - info@absystems.com
--
Advanced Business Systems 919.682.8553
19 Joci Court [fax] 919.682.1126
Durham, North Carolina 27704 briggman@rock.concert.net
A NeXTSTEP-only Reseller Hardware, Software and Peripherals
From: perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steve Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NSFIP boot from 2nd harddisk
Summary: can not get NSFIP to boot when installed on second harddisk
Keywords: boot, 2nd harddisk, NSFIP
Message-ID: <Dec.22.22.52.05.1993.9579@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
Date: 23 Dec 93 03:52:06 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
I have installed NSFIP 3.2 on the 3rd partition of the second physical drive.
If I have a bootable DOS partition on the first physical drive, the NSFIP boot control program does not run and I boot into DOS. If I do not have a bootable partition on the first drive, the system halts with a "No ROM BIOS' message.
If I reset the drive jumpers and put the NSFIP drive as the first drive and the DOS drive as the second drive, I can boot NSFIP, but I get a "D: Drive
failure" message and I can not read from or boot the second drive. Yes, I changes the CMOS to reflect the new jumper settings. If the NSFIP drive is the only drive in the system then NSFIP boots and runs. But then I do not have access to my DOS programs. Sorry, but I need them for work.
AMI BIOS, 486-33 VESA motherboard, the DOS drive is a Seagate ST3144 and the NSFIP drive is a MAXTOR 7245AT. I am assuming that the boot controll program is either /usr/standalone/i386/boot or ~/boot0 or ~/boot1. How can I copy this to the bootsector of the DOS drive so I can have the choice of booting DOS or NSFIP?
TIA for any answers.
Steven C. Perkins perkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu
From: mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ?Okay, Pentium EISA/VLB system and NS/FIP...
Date: 23 Dec 1993 04:20:30 GMT
Organization: Chesapeake Biological Laboratory
Message-ID: <2fb6af$6mk@gamera.umd.edu>
Keywords: Pentium,EISA,VLB,NS/FIP
Say I decided not to wait for PCI support in NS/FIP but wanted to get
a Pentium based motherboard with EISA and VLB... For best performance
and value, what would I chose for:
A) An EISA based disk controller? The AHA1742 only works in AHA1542
mode so hell with that, but have heard the support for the EISA based
DPT controllers is problematic with NS/FIP, this true?
B) VLB based video card? (best if it could do 1120x832[?] native NeXT
resolution but 1024x768 with 24bit color would suffice) Cost
would need to be =< $500.
Hope to get some an interesting thread going on this but am serious about
going this route. For a workstation I think EISA and VLB should be a
good combo.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rawyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: Yet another "Please help me find an Intel system that works!" post...
Message-ID: <rawyattCIH1qp.LvE@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 04:56:49 GMT
I recently found an Intel system that I like, but due to manufacturer
shipping delays I might be forced to look for another...
Basically, I want SCSI, 1280x1024 video (16 bit color minimum), and either
EISA or PCI. Would anyone be willing to help me out and recommend a system?
I would prefer 32 bit video and PCI expansion, but I am still unsure of what
is supported under 3.2 (I am waiting for my upgrade). I have checked the
compatibility chart, but I was wondering what people out there had
experienced that still hasn't made it onto the chart.
Please reply to rawyatt@netcom.com (text only) or rob%zeus.uucp@netcom.com
(NeXTmail and MIME).
Thanks in advance to all of you!
-Rob
From: kheit@gandalf.rutgers.edu (John Kheit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ?Okay, Pentium EISA/VLB system and NS/FIP...
Keywords: Pentium,EISA,VLB,NS/FIP
Message-ID: <Dec.23.02.03.11.1993.27671@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
Date: 23 Dec 93 07:03:12 GMT
References: <2fb6af$6mk@gamera.umd.edu>
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes:
>Say I decided not to wait for PCI support in NS/FIP but wanted to get
>a Pentium based motherboard with EISA and VLB... For best performance
>and value, what would I chose for:
Welp, I think the new 'standard' (if that is possible in the intel world) is
going to be PCI/EISA. But if you go the VLB/EISA route I think its definatly
worthwhile to get a DPT. DPT is THE BEST company, as far as customer service
goes, Ive ever dealt with. They keep logs on all of your calls and are really
quick to help you out. Further, my DPT is probably the only component of my
intel setup that hasnt given me any troubles (although Im sure others may have
their own horror stories). Anyway the new DPT's in particular are VERY fast
and will aleviate one of the systems biggest bottle necks (slow disk I/O).
As far as video goes, the STB Pegasus will probably do 1024X768@24bits and
1280X1024@12bits when the driver comes out in Q1-94. I think this is one of
the fastest cards currently supported. However, a PCI card with a 64bit
RAMDAC (instead of the STB's 32bit) will be able to use its memory more
effectively and probably would be able to support 1280X1024@24bits and
1600X1200@12bits--So if you want supreme video performance you'll want a PCI
video card with a 64bit RAMDAC--The only such card that comes to mind is the
Matrox. Anyhow, I got my STB for 620 from a local place and they had it in
stock. Currently with the s3 driver it only does 800X600@24bits and
1024X768@8bits. It is faster than my old ATI and actually feels zippy like
my turbo dimension...
Hope some of that helps!
BTW: Happy Silly Season to All :-) :-)
Later, John
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: 32 bit graphics on Intel hardware?
Date: 18 Dec 1993 18:05:10 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2evd86$32v@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <CI0Ep3.39A@melblanc.kau1.kodak.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
james@melblanc.kau1.kodak.com (James Gardiner) writes:
>Would anyone know if it is possible to get 32 bit/24 bit graphics
>on Intel hardware as yet? And if so how and where can I buy it???
>How much does it cost?
You can have 32 bit graphics up to 1024x768 with the miro crystal 32S
card (4 MB VRAM). I don't know international prices, in Germany the
card is sold for 2000 DM which equals about US $1200.
--
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zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!"
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mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: New Pentium/PCI systems hitting market. Hopefully NS/i compatie
Message-ID: <CIHHuF.E76@utstat.toronto.edu>
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
References: <2fa12o$raf@cobber.cord.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 10:44:38 GMT
In article <2fa12o$raf@cobber.cord.edu> hadden@cobber.cord.edu (Moulie) writes:
[RE shopping for 586 NeXT PC...]
>
>Maybe someone out there is in the know. Please respond.
>Thanks a million.
Well, this is perhaps not what you want to hear but it may be of some use.
I now have NS3.1 running apparently fine, on a totally no-name clone 486DX2-
66, or whatever the name is. The cost of the system, translated in US dollars,
is roughly $100 (full tower case)+ $75 ( forget exactly) for IDE VESA LB
controller ( with parallel and 2 serial ports), $320 for a Maxtor 330meg
drive (IDE), $180 Hercules Dynamite Pro (2 megs) VLB Tseng win32i video,
$150 for the motherboard ( interesting with 2 72 pin simm sockets and 8
ordinary ones), $400 cpu ( with trade in)- this is a rough figure-, mouse,
16 megs ram, 16" Mitusbishi colour monitor ( 1280x(), but am using it at
1024 x768).
RAM is too expensive. Basically I am very close to my $2000 limit. I'm not
trying to discourage anyone from buying a "quality" system, but I do feel I
have a system that is faster than my Cube and costs under $2000 ( and will
provide colour when the driver is ready). Once I have 3.2 installed and
working flawlessly for a month or so I will provide details. The goal is to
provide students and staff NeXT PC's for under $2000 CDN ( $1600US). For the
moment grey scale will have to do, but that's just an issue of RAM.
In short, for those without p.o.'s, there is hope. The installation on the
no name PC was point and click. What was harder was getting things to work
under DOS! ( with IRQ's, DMA, etc...)...
Merry Christmas....
--
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
[Where sheep may safely graze...]
From: hawkwynd@toz.buffalo.ny.us (hawkwynd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: monomonitor gettting dull
Message-ID: <gate.7mZZec1w165w@toz.buffalo.ny.us>
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 01:24:17 EST
Reply-To: olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca
*Organization: The University of British Columbia
*Hi all,
* Is there any way of brightening my screen. I have the brightness
*cranked to the max and the screen is still really dull. I've had the monitor
*for about 3 years.
I would suggest taking it to have a technician service it.
Chances are there is a part that needs to be replaced. I had a mono
monitor and the same thing happened as well as the `verticle sweep'. I
think I paid $22.00 to have it repaired.
---
* OLX 2.2 * Who's in charge here?
From: charlesa@learned.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: SMC Ethernet cards
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 14:13:15 GMT
Organization: EUnet GB
Message-ID: <2fc9s4$5rn@marble.Britain.EU.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi -
I'm wondering if my SMC EtherCard Elite16C Ultra will work with NS/I 3.2. I'm
looking at the HW compat. guide, and it says both the EtherCard Plus and Elite
16 (8013) are supported, but where does that leave the Elite16C Ultra?
Has anybody had any experience with these?
Thanks,
C.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill)
Subject: Re: your views please, for a new product
Message-ID: <CIGJLK.EHv@cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Sender: news@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (News Manager)
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
References: <1993Dec20.175534.20515@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 22:24:55 GMT
In article <1993Dec20.175534.20515@Princeton.EDU> gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos) writes:
>I am posting this on behalf of a manufacturer of NEXTSTEP-compatible
[munch]
>specifically designed for NEXTSTEP, from scratch, and would be
>interested in your views concerning the following issues.
>
>
[munch]
>Please respond to me (gpmenos@phoenix.princeton.edu) and I will
>forward your e-mail to company for their review. Your names will not
>be used in a later effort to sell you anything (this company does not
>sell direct, anyway).
>
>Thanks for any responses,
>
>Phil Menos
>gpmenos@phoenix.princeton.edu
>--
>G. Philippe Menos
>gpmenos@firestone.princeton.edu [NeXTmail OK.]
>Systems Administrator, Princeton University Libraries
>voice: 609-258-5183 fax: 609-258-5571
How about shipping with a Turtle Beach Multisound and Music Kit compatible
drivers as standard. The physical form is much less important than what
hardware and software we get.
david
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From: chris@rose (Christian Schmolzi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Connecting IBM S12 to next-station ?
Date: 23 Dec 1993 15:22:13 GMT
Organization: Computational Linguistics Dept., U Saarbruecken
Message-ID: <2fcd36INNn46@coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de>
I tried to connect the IBM s12 Gigabyte drive to NeXT Station , after
formatting with disk -F and rebooting I got an error message BAD
SUPER BLOCK, UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; tried to initialize with the
BuildDisk-Application, got an error message: incomplete disk transfer
Do I need to make an entry in disktab? Help!
Please e-mail me directly since I don't read this group often!
--
Christian Schmolzi, Univeritaet des Saarlandes, Saarbruecken, Germany
E-Mail: chris@cipsol.cs.uni-sb.de
#### Fuesse, Fuesse! Ich sehe ueberall Fuesse ####
#### Ueberall fette, fleischige Fuesse ####
(Al Bundy)
From: rwilson@gate.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Experience with DEC DSP3107 HD?
Date: 23 Dec 1993 17:28:07 GMT
Message-ID: <2fckf7$fa9@inca.gate.net>
Hi there,
Does anyone have any thoughts/comments about installing a
DEC DSP3107 1070 mb hard drive in a NeXT cube?
What is the net advice concerning a "worthy" 1 GIG HD?
Thanks,
-Rob
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Why use ATI cards at all?
Date: 23 Dec 1993 17:47:08 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <2fclis$kcv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
Like many owners of black hw, I've been lazily
following the NS-for-beige mishmash (some of it
exciting - I can see the advantages, too).
One thing I don't understand is the use of ATI graphics.
It is pretty much universally cited as being slower than
several other offerings, yet builders of NS/Intel
systems use it fairly often. Why? Economics?
Hidden virtues? Hype?
By "slower" I mean perceived speed, moving windows,
hiding them, etc. Why do GEC, ALR and those who
are in the business of selling NS systems use a card
perceived as slower? Just curious.
Thanks
L.A. Brooks
U of M
College Park
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: harryt@world.std.com (Harry D Tirrell)
Subject: SCSI id on XT8760
Message-ID: <CII1us.LrB@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 17:56:51 GMT
I know this has been on the net before, but I apparently did
not save it, nor can I find it in the FAQ. I would like to
change the SCSI id of my internal Maxtor 8760S drive. Buty
I have no documentation. I tried using the same pins that are
on my PO12, but no luck. Could some kind soul point me in the
right direction.
harry
harryt@world.std.com
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From: windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SMC Ethernet cards
Date: 23 Dec 1993 17:32:29 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2fcknd$pu6@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <2fc9s4$5rn@marble.Britain.EU.net>
In article <2fc9s4$5rn@marble.Britain.EU.net> charlesa@learned.co.uk
writes:
>
> Hi -
>
> I'm wondering if my SMC EtherCard Elite16C Ultra will work with NS/I
3.2. I'm
> looking at the HW compat. guide, and it says both the EtherCard Plus and
Elite
> 16 (8013) are supported, but where does that leave the Elite16C Ultra?
>
> Has anybody had any experience with these?
>
I have. I couldn't get it to work.
Maybe with 3.2 ...
Andreas Windemuth
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From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas)
Subject: Optical disk filter
Message-ID: <CII6IC.14E@cc.umontreal.ca>
Summary: where?
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 19:37:22 GMT
Hello. Can someone tell me where I can get the dust filter
for the NeXT Cube magneto-optical disk drive?
I was at school today and noticed what kind of damage can
occur to my drive at home if I leave it unfiltered too.
The thing turned on and off for no reason at all!
Thanks
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From: rgc@wam.umd.edu (Ross Garrett Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why use ATI cards at all?
Date: 23 Dec 1993 21:29:25 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Message-ID: <2fd2jl$n1v@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
References: <2fclis$kcv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
L. Anathea Brooks (gaia@wam.umd.edu) wrote:
: Like many owners of black hw, I've been lazily
: following the NS-for-beige mishmash (some of it
: exciting - I can see the advantages, too).
: One thing I don't understand is the use of ATI graphics.
: It is pretty much universally cited as being slower than
: several other offerings, yet builders of NS/Intel
: systems use it fairly often. Why? Economics?
: Hidden virtues? Hype?
: By "slower" I mean perceived speed, moving windows,
: hiding them, etc. Why do GEC, ALR and those who
: are in the business of selling NS systems use a card
: perceived as slower? Just curious.
Because the ATI cards were one of the few supported cards. Other cards
are just now becoming available, but 5 months ago when I started running
3.1, the ATI was the only option for me.
--
Ross Cutler
University of Maryland, College Park
Internet: rgc@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: n9240566@fozzie.cc.wwu.edu (Leif E. Harrison)
Subject: Problems with internal hard drives (NeXT Cube)
Message-ID: <n9240566.756683862@fozzie>
Summary: Having problems with internal SCSI in a NeXT Cube
Keywords: Quantum Fujitsu hard drive NeXt Cube
Sender: news@henson.cc.wwu.edu (USENET-WWU)
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: 23 Dec 93 21:57:42 GMT
Well, I finally fixed a problem with my Cube being flakey by moving
a 660M Fujitsu from inside the cube to an external case. At the same time
I put my 40M Quantum back into the cube for a swap drive. Everything seemed
to work hunky-dorey...until yesterday.
Now I'm getting problems again, only this time it's just the
Quantum giving me timeout problems. If it provides any further information,
here's the literal error message:
sd1(6,0):scsi_timer: timeout op:0x2a sd_state:0 scsi_status:0x0
sd1(6,0):scsi_timer: timeout op:0x2a sd_state:7 scsi_status:0x0
With the Fujitsu, I assumed it was probably just bad jumper settings
(the external case has "preset" jumpers going to some switches for SCSI device
number). Since the Quantum jumper settings haven't changed since I had it in
the cube previously, this can't be the case with the quantum.
Anyhow, other prossible problems: I recently upgraded my CPU board
from an 030 to an 040. It was flakey with the Fujitsu (boot drive) internal
but seemed to work great (for a few days) with the Fujitsu external and the
Quantum internal. Now the Quantum is flaking out for no reason.
Could it somehow be software related?
Could it be jumper settings on the Quantum? Should they be different
between the 030 and the 040?
Is the cable different between the 030 and 040? (non-terminating?)
*sigh*
Any help is appreciated, although I'm not expecting much...
- Leif Harrison
n9240566@henson.cc.wwu.edu
rexfelis@bailey.cpac.washington.edu
From: feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: TXs and more Q's on NS/IP installation
Date: 23 Dec 1993 23:38:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <2fda5e$6dq@news.service.uci.edu>
Thanks to all who answered my call for help on NS/IP
installation.
Answer to my question on the allocation of drive letters A: and B: is:
Swap the two floppy drive connection on the cable.
Drive B: (5.25'' floppy) can remain physically attached under NS.
NS just neglects it, it seems.
Finally I got NS 3.2 on my 486/33 ISA, 16Mb RAM, SVGA, Adaptec 1542B 540MB
SCSI system.
Unfortunately there are the following problems.
(1) Generally speaking it is very slow, in fact, I would say it is only
marginally workable. I would never recommend anybody to install
NS on such a system. My question is what the key bottleneck is.
(a) Is it simply because the CPU 33Mhz is slow?
(b) or is it because the VGA Graphics slow?
(c) or is it because the ISA-SCSI adapter slow?
I am looking for the cheapest way to remedy the current situation.
My suspection is that the slow performance is more due to the ISA
VGA card. If so, buying an IBM 486SLC/66 VL bus motherboard and
a VL bus graphics card such as the ATI ultra pro would solve the
problem. The IBM 486SLC/66 is much cheaper than an Intel 486DX2/66,
does anybody know the performance difference?
(2) the mouse pointer is very jumpy under NS/IP. The mouse works fine
under Windows or OS/2 but became so jumpy that it is a pain to
select any thing on a menu under NS. Is this just because I am
using a VGA card or there is something wrong in my installation?
(3) My Complete PC 14.4 fax modem does not work under NS.
I have not succeded in sending or receiving a fax yet.
the modem dials, rings but does not complete the sending or receiving.
(4) What communications programs are available for NS/IP and what
modems are supported?
NeXT says Software Ventures' Microphone is the only one available
for Intel machines. I phone Softwar Ventures and they say it
is still not available yet even though the Third Party Product
book that came with NS 3.2 lists Microphone as currently available and
the CD-ROM on the back of the book does contain the demo program.
I tried to run it, it came up with a nice window but whenver I tried
to make a connection it says /dev/cub is busy (my modem is on
set to COM 2 IRQ 3).
I tried to use standard UNIX tip and uucp with no luck either.
I am extremely frustrated in this matter. I phoned up NeXT a couple
of times. They could not provide any help except saying people
have made tip work under NS/IP. So I think I will have
to turn to the experts on the net.
Any help or info will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Feng Liu
UC, Irvine
From: Christopher_Lane@Med.Stanford.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI id on XT8760
Date: 24 Dec 1993 00:14:55 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2fdc9v$eot@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
References: <CII1us.LrB@world.std.com>
Harry D Tirrell <harryt@world.std.com> writes:
> I would like to change the SCSI id of my internal Maxtor 8760S drive.
> Buty I have no documentation.
I believe the answer is JP 35 (low) thru JP 37 (high) but you can verify that
for yourself by requesting the technical sheet on this drive from Maxtor's
MaxFax 24 hour-per-day technical support information system @ 303-678-2618. I
think the document I got from the system for the 8380S drives covers the 8760S
and was document 2125 for the XT-8000S family of SCSI drives -- you'll want to
check the current document index though.
Of course, converting the custom NeXT drives from 1024 byte sectors to 512 byte
sectors for use in PCs & NeXTSTEP for Intel is a whole 'nother matter.
- Christopher
From: develand@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (Darren Eveland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cirrus Video WORKS!!!
Date: 24 Dec 1993 05:10:41 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2fdtkh$c3c@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
I got my Cirrus logic video card to work. It is a 1 meg VL-BUS
card with the GD5426 processor. What you do is select the cirrus
driver from the Configure.app then re-boot your machine.
Your display may come up garbled but sorta in 1024x768. At the
login screen type exit as your name then press enter. the machine
will re-start and your screen should be ok!! I was amazed! It actually
works. I have no reason why typing exit as a login name will fix it
but it does!
Thanks to the chap that told me !!!
Darren
PS - NS/Intel is murder on an 8 meg system in 1024x768 2bit!!!
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From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: briggman@rock.concert.net? Where are you, dude?
Message-ID: <1993Dec20.201930.17024@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 20:19:30 GMT
References: <athos-121293155058@mac_ara_1.natural.com>
Control: cancel <1993Dec20.201930.17024@ve6mgs.ampr.org>
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
David has contacted me, and I figured it *wise* to cancel this posting for
the moment ...
Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn
From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ProAudio + ISA in NS/I 3.2
Message-ID: <CIH5B2.n7@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 06:13:50 GMT
References: <2e6vb6$90@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <1993Dec13.143915.22184@Princeton.EDU> <CI5wCG.FB4@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Organization: VE6MGS Gateway
bchin@nextsrv1.andi.org (Bill Chin) writes:
>With NS 3.1, I've been able to get a ProAudio to work about 90% of
>the time in an Epson NX w/ an Adaptac 1542B using DMA channel 3
>and Irq 15. This is with massive pounding of the machine and
>the sound system.
I had this same configuration (1542C tho') under 3.1 and after a few `Ni's
it would stop sound (everything else worked). Did *not* matter what DMA/IRQ
I set, it would stop sooner or later with dead sound.
Under 3.2, I use DMA3 and IRQ15 and it has worked flawlessly since. I can now
`machingun' the broken glass sound *forever*
ISA 486DX2/66, ATI Ultra Pro, 1542C, Pro Audio Spectrum 16, two serial ports
and a bus mouse (IRQ5). Floppy drive off the 1542C ...
Ciao -- Mark
From: rse@argon.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Robert S Elder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: What CD-ROM drive for a NeXTstation?
Date: 24 Dec 1993 07:53:45 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group
Message-ID: <2fe769$5q3@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
I need a CD-ROM drive for my NeXTstation. The ones that I am looking at are
the:
NEC 3xp triple spin portable
Toshiba 3401
and Sony CDU561
I plan to build my only hard drive from the CD-ROM so I'll need to be able to
boot from the CD-ROM. Do any of the above have any problems in this respect?
What incompatibility problems arise with the above drives? (like not being
able to play audio CD's, etc.) All of the above claim PhotoCD compliance, but
are there any problems with NS? Any drives I have overlooked?
Any info very much appreciated,
Robert Elder (rse@gas.uug.arizona.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port)
Subject: daydream QUIX
Message-ID: <1993Dec24.074350.4373@math.ucla.edu>
Sender: news@math.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 93 07:43:50 GMT
I received the following from QUIX, the
makers of daydream on Thursday, Dec. 23.
DAYDREAM - GOOD NEWS
This is to inform you that a solution for the
legal problems which delayed the introduction
of 'daydream' has been found. Daydream will
ship in January, with licenced Apple ROM's installed.
The $795 offer is valid till the end of February 94.
Attached is an updated -and- shorter version of
our daydream information.
If you have any additional question: Send E-Mail to:
quix@applelink.apple.com or, a Fax to 011 41 41 348680
Merry Christmas!
Andy Grawehr
QUIX Computerware AG
================================================
I thought this might be of interest to a few Next users.
CDvorak
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rawyatt@netcom.com (Robert Wyatt)
Subject: Any luck with NS/FIP and ZEOS systems?
Message-ID: <rawyattCIJ6Bs.6vJ@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 08:31:03 GMT
Just wondering if anyone has gotten NEXTSTEP to run on ZEOS systems? They
seem like a pretty good bang for the buck deal...
-Rob
rawyatt@netcom.com (no NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: TXs and more Q's on NS/IP installation
Message-ID: <1993Dec24.084013.2868@seer.demon.co.uk>
Sender: paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Organization: P & L Systems
References: <2fda5e$6dq@news.service.uci.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 08:40:13 GMT
In article <2fda5e$6dq@news.service.uci.edu> feng@jedi.eng.uci.edu (Feng
Liu) writes:
> (2) the mouse pointer is very jumpy under NS/IP. The mouse works fine
> under Windows or OS/2 but became so jumpy that it is a pain to
> select any thing on a menu under NS. Is this just because I am
> using a VGA card or there is something wrong in my installation?
You don't say what mouse you are using. Anything other than listed mice
are likely to behave oddly, rather like you describe. I get the feeling
that mouse reactions may be related to the video driver as well.
> (3) My Complete PC 14.4 fax modem does not work under NS.
> I have not succeded in sending or receiving a fax yet.
> the modem dials, rings but does not complete the sending or
receiving.
Only modems that have class 2 fax support, and have a compatable fax
driver, will work. As yours isn't an Interfax or HSD, it isn't going to
work. You will need NXFax (which should be available for Intel now), and
a modem that they support. Contact info@bandw.com for more information.
> (4) What communications programs are available for NS/IP and what
> modems are supported?
I have no problem using tip; you should also be able to find a copy of
C-kermit on the archives compiled for Intel. You don't say what problems
you have, so I can't offer any advice.
Paul
--
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P & L Systems (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501 9 Stable Lane, Seer Green,
Fax: (0494)680228 Bucks, HP9 2YT, UK
From: joef@pandora.ucs.umass.edu (Joseph E. Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Why use ATI cards at all?
Date: 24 Dec 1993 17:03:46 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Message-ID: <2ff7di$1u4@nic.umass.edu>
References: <2fclis$kcv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
L. Anathea Brooks (gaia@wam.umd.edu) wrote:
: One thing I don't understand is the use of ATI graphics.
: It is pretty much universally cited as being slower than
: several other offerings, yet builders of NS/Intel
: systems use it fairly often. Why? Economics?
: Hidden virtues? Hype?
My graphics card of choice is still the ATI -- even if it isn't
the fastest thing going anymore. Fact is, it's supported by more
operating systems than any other card on the market, and it isn't
exactly slow either (except for moving windows in NeXTStep). I
typically run several operating systems on my machines even though
they typically run one system 95% of the time. It's nice to be able
to start a different OS and still have a fully capable machine.
Now that I'm hooked on NeXTStep, I would love to get a nice fast
card and dedicate a machine to it -- but what should I buy? Right
now there just isn't anything good on the market, that is supported
by NeXTStep AND is significantly faster than the ATI.
Joe Fitzgerald
Network Systems and Services
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: Problems with internal hard drives (NeXT Cube)
Message-ID: <1993Dec24.094420.26677@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <n9240566.756683862@fozzie>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 09:44:20 GMT
In article <n9240566.756683862@fozzie> n9240566@fozzie.cc.wwu.edu (Leif E.
Harrison) writes:
> Well, I finally fixed a problem with my Cube being flakey by
moving
> a 660M Fujitsu from inside the cube to an external case. At the same
time
> I put my 40M Quantum back into the cube for a swap drive. Everything
seemed
> to work hunky-dorey...until yesterday.
>
> Now I'm getting problems again, only this time it's just the
> Quantum giving me timeout problems. If it provides any further
information,
> here's the literal error message:
>
> sd1(6,0):scsi_timer: timeout op:0x2a sd_state:0 scsi_status:0x0
> sd1(6,0):scsi_timer: timeout op:0x2a sd_state:7 scsi_status:0x0
>
> With the Fujitsu, I assumed it was probably just bad jumper
settings
> (the external case has "preset" jumpers going to some switches for SCSI
device
> number). Since the Quantum jumper settings haven't changed since I had
it in
> the cube previously, this can't be the case with the quantum.
>
> Anyhow, other prossible problems: I recently upgraded my CPU
board
> from an 030 to an 040. It was flakey with the Fujitsu (boot drive)
internal
> but seemed to work great (for a few days) with the Fujitsu external and
the
> Quantum internal. Now the Quantum is flaking out for no reason.
> Could it somehow be software related?
> Could it be jumper settings on the Quantum? Should they be
different
> between the 030 and the 040?
> Is the cable different between the 030 and 040? (non-terminating?)
>
> *sigh*
>
> Any help is appreciated, although I'm not expecting much...
>
> - Leif Harrison
> n9240566@henson.cc.wwu.edu
> rexfelis@bailey.cpac.washington.edu
I experienced also this kind of problem. My fix was to replace the flat
ribbon cable.
Now I got a grey flat ribon cable in my black cube.
:o)
--Fabien
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: horke@buchonia.rhoen.in-berlin.de (Bernhard Kroenung)
Subject: SCSI-Tape on NeXTStation (3.2)
Organization: fulmin Ebersburg/Rhoen
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 19:59:34 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Dec24.195934.9615@buchonia.rhoen.in-berlin.de>
Hy
How do I have to setup a SCSI-Tape (Wangtek) to perform Backups on a NeXTstation
(with 3.2) ?
Sorry - I could not find it in the FAQ.
Ciao
Bernhard
--
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horke@buchonia.rhoen.in-berlin.de u5175@sun1.hrz.uni-giessen.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles@oneworld.wa.com
Subject: Re: Any luck with NS/FIP and ZEOS systems?
Message-ID: <1993Dec24.201652.6773@oneworld.wa.com>
Organization: OneWorld Enterprises/OneWorld Computing Resources
References: <rawyattCIJ6Bs.6vJ@netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 20:16:52 GMT
Robert Wyatt (rawyatt@netcom.com) wrote:
:
: Just wondering if anyone has gotten NEXTSTEP to run on ZEOS systems? They
: seem like a pretty good bang for the buck deal...
:
: -Rob
: rawyatt@netcom.com (no NeXTmail)
If I were you I wouldn't bother. I tried and tried and could not get it
to work. Let alone, my Zeos got very very flakey. The customer support at
Zeos is abominable! I am absolutely fed up with them to the point that
I've just replaced the motherboard in my system with a stock AMI bios
class motherboard. NO more Zeos warranty but hey, what good was it?
Charles W. Cooper II |OneWorld Enterprises |
(206)453-8766 |OneWorld Computing Resources | - space for rent -
(206)453-7083 fax/data |203 Bellevue Way N.E. STE 314 |
charles@oneworld.wa.com |Bellevue, WA 98004 USA |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Re: Any luck with NS/FIP and ZEOS systems?
Message-ID: <dcodeCIK7zt.CFB@netcom.com>
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <rawyattCIJ6Bs.6vJ@netcom.com> <1993Dec24.201652.6773@oneworld.wa.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 22:04:40 GMT
In article <1993Dec24.201652.6773@oneworld.wa.com> charles@oneworld.wa.com writes:
>
>Robert Wyatt (rawyatt@netcom.com) wrote:
>:
>: Just wondering if anyone has gotten NEXTSTEP to run on ZEOS systems? They
>: seem like a pretty good bang for the buck deal...
>:
>If I were you I wouldn't bother. I tried and tried and could not get it
>to work. Let alone, my Zeos got very very flakey. The customer support at
>Zeos is abominable! I am absolutely fed up with them to the point that
>I've just replaced the motherboard in my system with a stock AMI bios
>class motherboard. NO more Zeos warranty but hey, what good was it?
>
>
Well, if you were looking for a "certified" NeXTSTEP machine, then Zeos wasn't
the company to go with in the first place.
I was successful with getting NS 3.1 running on my Zeos with no problems what
so ever. The video board that shipped with the system was a Diamond Viper
with only 1 meg of memory. So I returned that to Zeos, who happily gave me
a refund since I was within the 30 money-back warranty. The machine I'm using
is their 486/66 tower, 500 Meg IDE drive, with 16 Megs of memory. I added
on an Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller, Apple CD300 CD-ROM and an ATI GUP VESA
video board. 3.1 worked fine.
I did have some problems getting 3.2 up and running. The ugrade went fine,
but when I ran Configure.app the configuration that it saved wouldn't let
my machine boot. It died when it got an unrecognized ACK from the keyboard?!?!
Whatever, I was still able to boot using 'config=Default' and have begun
to troublshoot which configuration it didn't like. So far I've got the user
version running in 1024x768 color and everything works fine.
Your mileage may vary. I'm happy with my Zeos. It's not my old NeXTstation,
but it'll do! :)
Paul
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From: jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen)
Subject: Dead FIMI - need monitor and cable pinouts
Message-ID: <CIK15G.Exr@pdh.com>
Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account)
Organization: PDH, Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 19:36:51 GMT
My FIMI monitor went dead and is unrepairable at reasonable cost.
I am interested in options. One possibility is to buy a new FIMI
(or used FIMI) and in fact, I have already explored that
possibility with someone who posted in c.s.n.marketplace. So that
option is still a possibility.
Another option is to buy a new or used analog color monitor that
can be used with a Colorstation. In that case, I would like to
know if anyone has the pinouts from the NeXT Colorstation video
cable to drive R-G-B (and possibly H and V sync). I had, for a
while, a NEC 5FG (excellent monitor, BTW) and I was using a loaned
adaptor that NeXT sells to convert the standard cable plug (weird
DIN) to three BNC connectors for R-G-B. However, I understand the
cost on this adaptor from Bell Atlantic is pretty high. I could
make one myself if I had the proper pinouts.
Also, are there any specs I need to know about the monitor in order
to know if a particular replacement will work?
Thanks in advance. E-mail appreciated.
Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: steve@eps.RAIN.COM (Steve Kornreich)
Subject: DPT 2021 ISA question
Sender: news@percy.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 02:04:48 GMT
Message-ID: <CIKJ41.F6L@percy.rain.com>
I just switched over from an Adaptec 1542cf to a DPT 2021 isa . I hope I
made the right choise.. At least I can access my whole 1.3 gig HD now..
Anyways, what is the best setup for the card.. ie. dma speed etc.. I
noticed before I took out the 1542cf.. Diskperformance actually gave me a
better index value .8 as apossed to my new DPT 2021 at around .65 hmmmm.
What am I doing wrong.. Does adding the cache card make any noticable
difference..
--
Steve Kornreich
steve@eps.rain.com
NeXT Mail OK..
From: jpg1@stein2.u.washington.edu (Jeff Gardner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NEC 3xi and Adaptec 1542C on Intel machine
Date: 25 Dec 1993 04:13:12 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <2fgeko$ie9@news.u.washington.edu>
Keywords: NEC 3xi Adaptec 1542 CD-ROM NS/I
Has anybody out there gotten a Nec 3xi (or 3xe,3xp) to work on
an Intel box, especially one with an AHA-1542C? If you haven't
guessed already, I've got a 1542C in mine and am thinking of buying
a 3xi. I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work, and I
know of people who have 3x's attached to their NeXT's, but
I just wanted to make sure before I bought one. Thanks,
--Jeff Gardner
gardner@astro.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Christopher C. McAfee)
Subject: Re: What CD-ROM drive for a NeXTstation?
Message-ID: <1993Dec25.102212.19020@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
References: <2fe769$5q3@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 10:22:12 GMT
In article <2fe769$5q3@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rse@argon.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Robert S Elder) writes:
>I need a CD-ROM drive for my NeXTstation. The ones that I am looking at are
>the:
>
>NEC 3xp triple spin portable
>Toshiba 3401
>and Sony CDU561
>
>I plan to build my only hard drive from the CD-ROM so I'll need to be able to
>boot from the CD-ROM. Do any of the above have any problems in this respect?
>What incompatibility problems arise with the above drives? (like not being
>able to play audio CD's, etc.) All of the above claim PhotoCD compliance, but
>are there any problems with NS? Any drives I have overlooked?
>
Robert,
I remember seeing this in the FAQ.peripherals, it's only a survey though:
Subject: M8. What non-NeXT CD Players that work with a NeXT?
A USENET survey summary:
Apple CD-150
PLI 1035N for NeXT
SUN CD-ROM drive (Sony CDU-8012, Rev. 3.1a)
NEC 73M and 74 (transfer rates > of 300 KB/sec.)
Apple CD-SC (Sony 541-22 mechanism)
Chinon CDS-431 (with new drivers)
Eclipse CD-ROM from Microtech
Toshiba 3201
Toshiba 3301
Toshiba 3401
Toshiba TXM3301E1
Toshiba XM-2200A external
DENON DRD-253 external (data only, no music)
HP's LaserROM drive (Toshiba XM-3301TA drive in HP's box)
Texel 3024 (required a firmware upgrade to version was 1.11)
Good luck,
Chris
mcafee@cs.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: charles@oneworld.wa.com
Subject: Re: Any luck with NS/FIP and ZEOS systems?
Message-ID: <1993Dec25.163501.9721@oneworld.wa.com>
Organization: OneWorld Enterprises/OneWorld Computing Resources
References: <dcodeCIK7zt.CFB@netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 16:35:01 GMT
And I don't imagine that your ZEOS was on the compatibility list either.
And how can you say you had no problems whatsoever when you go on to
describe the problems you had getting it to install.
I my case, It was traced to incompatibilities with the scsi subsystem and
the bios.
You are very fortunate you were able to use your 30-day money back
guarantee because if you had waited they wouldn't have given a rats *ss
about you or your machine once those 30 days were up - even though there's
supposed to be a 1 year warrantee - its worthless! Having spent money to
ship the machine to ZEOS only to have it returned with NOTHING done to it,
I gave up on them and replaced the motherboard and was done with them.
From: cx777@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Arnaud Scomparin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Experiences with High End graphic cards wanted!
Date: 26 Dec 1993 15:17:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Message-ID: <2fk9tm$429@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Hello...
I would like to make a SUMMARY for graphic cards with VRAM >= 2Mbytes.
If you are using such a card under NS3.1 / 3.2, please send me quickly
the following information:
- name of the card
- price
- standard VRAM / max VRAM
- resolutions and depth with current available drivers
- resolutions and depth available when official drivers are ready
- speed comparison & working results if possible
- troubles & experience with installing the card
I'd like to get all the information about the STB Pegasus, Matrox
MGA II, #9GXE, Viper P9000 and PCI cards, which are not well known
at the moment... It will be easier to make a comparison for price /
performance for these cards.
Don't forget the NS 3.1 or 3.2 precision please... or other details
you think interesting...
Thanx in advance.
--
_________________________________________________________________
Arnaud SCOMPARIN, MIS Consultant for S.C.T. (FRANCE)
Tel:(+33) 20.40.01.90 Fax:(+33) (1) 47.86.14.72
e-mail: cx777@cleveland.freenet.edu -no NeXT Mail please ;-(
From: bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Hook)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: DPT SCSI controllers
Date: 26 Dec 1993 15:46:26 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, Dept of CIS
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <BWH.93Dec26104626@beach.cis.ufl.edu>
Does anyone have any experiences they can relate with the DPT caching SCSI
controllers? Their ad specifically states NextStep as a supported
operating system -- is this vaporware or do drivers really exist and work?
Thanks,
Brian
--
--------------
Brian Hook "The nice thing about computer graphics is
( bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu ) that if it looks right, it IS right."
From: koen1830@w203zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems powering NeXTstation down...
Date: 26 Dec 1993 16:23:52 GMT
Organization: TUBerlin/ZRZ
Message-ID: <2fkdqo$a45@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <2et7pv$fde@netnews.upenn.edu> <10351@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
In article <10351@blue.cis.pitt.edu> haugelan+@pitt.edu (John C
Haugeland) writes:
>
>In article <2et7pv$fde@netnews.upenn.edu> arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt)
>writes:
>
>>Here's my problem. I have a NeXTstation that will not power down properly.
>>When
>>I hit the power key from a login window (or click the power button on the
>>screen) the login box erases, the disk spins a little (as is normal) and the
>>opaque screen then just stays on. I hit the power key again and the machine
>>immediately shuts down. When I restart, the disks do an fsck and
>>everything is
>>fine, but I can never get a normal powerdown without an fsck (real annoying).
>>Now a second machine is doing it...
>>
Hi Noam & John,
I have found one reproducable situation, in which your problem may
occur. We'll see, if it's the case in your installation...
The cycle to see the bug should be:
1. install a printer on your serial line (lets call it DJ below), but
don't turn it on. You might even try that without physical printer at
all.
2. The endless loop:
%dwrite System Printer DJ
%lpr <some_junk>
POWER DOWN --> won't work as it should
POWER DOWN again --> will power down, but
POWER UP --> fsck'ing after powering up again
(now you're on the Terminal, after that)
%lprm -
%dwrite System Printer Local_Printer
POWER DOWN --> same problem as above
POWER UP --> fsck
(now you're on the Terminal, after that)
POWER DOWN --> no problem!
3. Now you certainly wouldn't like to try (2) again, would you?
4. Perhaps you don't even know that there is some serial printer
installed in the netinfo-base. Check to see whether it is by doing
#lpc
lpc> stat
...
lpc> quit
#
as root. If you find any entries for the installed printers, then `lprm'
them and you hopefully feel better.
Merry Christmas
Andreas,
>>By the way these are 25mHz NeXTstation running NS3.1 (did it under 3.0 as
>>well).
Cube under 3.1
>>
>>Please resond via e-mail.
Done that, too.
From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Experiences with High End graphic cards wanted!
Date: 26 Dec 1993 10:45:33 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9312261646.AA15648@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
I hope Arnaud will forgive me for this...
In case anybody is a bit confused by the following:
> Don't forget the NS 3.1 or 3.2 precision please...
>
it's a fairly common mistake by French speakers; pre'ciser doesn't
translate exactly how they'd expect; I suspect what Arnaud is wanting
to say is:
"Please don't forget to specify whether you're running NS 3.1 or 3.2."
No offense intended, and if this isn't what he meant I hope Arnaud will
correct me -- Arnaud, j'aime bien la France, et sa langue! Je ne
voulais que vous aider...
Amusez-vous!
mmalcolm.
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: What CD-ROM drive for a NeXTstation?
Date: 26 Dec 93 09:59:57
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Message-ID: <ZHAO.93Dec26095957@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
References: <2fe769$5q3@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
<1993Dec25.102212.19020@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
In-reply-to: mcafee@Xenon.Stanford.EDU's message of Sat, 25 Dec 1993 10:22:12 GMT
Apple CD-150
PLI 1035N for NeXT
SUN CD-ROM drive (Sony CDU-8012, Rev. 3.1a)
NEC 73M and 74 (transfer rates > of 300 KB/sec.)
> Apple CD-SC (Sony 541-22 mechanism)
> Chinon CDS-431 (with new drivers)
> Eclipse CD-ROM from Microtech
> Toshiba 3201
> Toshiba 3301
> Toshiba 3401
> Toshiba TXM3301E1
> Toshiba XM-2200A external
> DENON DRD-253 external (data only, no music)
> HP's LaserROM drive (Toshiba XM-3301TA drive in HP's box)
> Texel 3024 (required a firmware upgrade to version was 1.11)
Any internal one works for NS/I ?
E.g., is internal Toshiba 3401 working?
ZiZi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jpw@sansfoy.lib.virginia.edu (John Price-Wilkin)
Subject: "bad block" problems on drive; what do do?
Message-ID: <CInIyv.6C6@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 16:54:31 GMT
I recently attached a drive to a NeXT and things went well for a
little while. Then, yesterday, the machine locked up.
/usr/adm/messages had the attached report. Is there anything I can
do to prevent future seizures?
John Price-Wilkin
jpw@virginia.edu
Dec 25 15:24:38 orion mach: a: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: d block 16443226, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 1783238468, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 1783238468, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -403249363, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -403249363, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -435492806, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -435492806, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 731702263, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 731702263, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -464751496, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -464751496, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -1299370068, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -1299370068, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 86377390, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 86377390, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -1596205913, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -1596205913, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 607494800, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 607494800, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -1723005960, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -1723005960, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -1344884556, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -1344884556, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 923706433, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 923706433, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -982289934, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -982289934, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 503572527, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 503572527, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -395567071, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -395567071, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 315834368, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 315834368, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 1224599378, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block 1224599378, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -415300908, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -415300908, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -1777085959, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -1777085959, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -415337561, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -415337561, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -2027342811, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -2027342811, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -446246944, <3>/gopher-data: bad block
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: bad block -446246944, ino 34847
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: dev = 0x619, block = 2352, fs = /gopher-data
Dec 26 11:26:40 orion mach: panic: (Cpu 0) free_block: freeing free block
From: root@erix (Eric Cafritz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Phillips 17" Monitor Radiation
Date: 26 Dec 1993 17:30:40 GMT
Organization: Erix Remote
Distribution: INET
Message-ID: <2fkho0$1mj@erix.coudert.com>
Has anyone other than me experienced something like mild sunburn from
sitting in front of the Phillips 17" monitor that used to come with the
NeXTstation color?
--
Eric (eric@erix.coudert.com or eric@erix.demon.co.uk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cowboy@omega.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: DPT SCSI controllers
Message-ID: <1993Dec26.215456.20835@news.csuohio.edu>
Sender: news@news.csuohio.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Cleveland State University
References: <BWH.93Dec26104626@beach.cis.ufl.edu>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 21:54:56 GMT
Brian Hook (bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone have any experiences they can relate with the DPT caching SCSI
: controllers? Their ad specifically states NextStep as a supported
: operating system -- is this vaporware or do drivers really exist and work?
: Thanks,
Inasmuch as they were reviewed in a recent NeXTWorld, I think they
exist :-)
They are supposed to be superior to non-caching SCSI controllers, as
they increase speed when you reach 4.5 MB RAM or more. Interestingly
enough, if I remember correctly, you could have too MUCH cache, but I
think that does not occur until you have more than 8.5 MB RAM, or
higher. I would love to have a such a card with 8.5 MB RAM :-)
Regards-
Cowboy
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From: dpeter@hsd.com (David W. Peter)
Subject: Re: Using "Black" HSD scanner with INTEL
Message-ID: <CIntxE.4K4@beach.com>
Sender: dpeter@beach.com (David Peter)
Organization: HSD U.S. Inc., S.D.
References: <G4BKBI4F@math.fu-berlin.de>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 20:51:13 GMT
In article <G4BKBI4F@math.fu-berlin.de> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu
(James Powell) writes:
> I have a Scan-X color scanner from HSD that was purchased about a
year ago.
> I would like to move this scanner from the Nextstation to which it
is currently
> attached to a 486 clone running Nextstep for Intel. Is this
possible? Is
> there a driver for this scanner available? I would like to hear
from anyone
> who has tried to do this. Thanks.
>
> --
Yes, your HSD scanner is a standard SCSI device that will work on
*any computer* with a SCSI adapter, including an Intel based PC, as
long as you have the proper software and drivers.
HSD scanning software and drivers, PowerScan Professional, as well as
all other HSD products, are shipped FAT and will run under NEXTSTEP
no matter what hardware platform you chose.
Beginning January 1, 1994, HSD will also provide software and drivers
for using your scanner on a Mac or PC running Windows. This software
is FREE with the purchase of any scanner from HSD.
One Scanner = NEXTSTEP, Windows, Mac
Existing customers can purchase the Mac and Windows drivers for $99.
Any questions? Please contact HSD Directly at:
Email: info@hsd.com
Phone: 408 774-1400
Fax: 408 774 1402
David Peter
--
Sincerely,
David W. Peter
HSD Inc.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Quick Guide to NEXTSTEP information on the Internet
Date: 27 Dec 1993 00:13:44 -0500
Organization: Next Announcements
Message-ID: <2flqu8$tl@digifix.digifix.com>
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Additions from: Greg Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) and Michael Pizolato (Michael_Pizolato@afs.com)
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: A sound card that works well on EISA?
Date: 26 Dec 1993 12:27:14 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2fjsei$1ag@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <westesCIFn18.41n@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
>Can anyone recommend a sound board that is known to be
>ultra-stable with EISA motherboards using 3.2?
>I'm using a MediaVision PAS-16 on a NICE Super-EISA motherboard. My
>configs are: DMA 7 and IRQ 5. The board works well at those
>settings, but under any sort of stress test situation it is not hard
>to cause a kernel panic and crash the system.
Try IRQ 15. There might be a difference.
Works great for me and I never had a crash, although I don't know if
I had enough load on the machine to come close to the situation you
described.
--
Marsu: "Es gibt tatsaechlich Leute, die ohne Computer gluecklich und
zufrieden leben." -- Frankie: "Ach was, die emulieren das doch nur!"
-----
Markus Wenzel System administration, Consulting, Networking
mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org on... NeXTSTEP / Unix / Novell / Windows NT
IRC: Marsu Intel aside.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will Fischer)
Subject: NeXT station on side?
Message-ID: <CIoME8.903@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Summary: Is it OK to run a NEXT-station on its side?
Keywords: ergonomics
Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 07:06:08 GMT
Just got a new computer desk. The monitor is too high when it sits on
the pizza box (NeXT-station mono turbo) -- so I'm wondering if its okay
to run the machine on its left side (with the cables in back, and the
floppy drive facing up).
I can only think of two problems with this arrangement:
1. ventilation (but I have the "bottom" and right-side vents
clear)
2. dust and such could fall into the floppy drive.
Are these serious concerns? Are there other serious matters that make
this a BAD IDEA? An alternative is to get a longer monitor cable: has
anyone out there gone that route (how expensive, and where might I find
one?)?
Thanks for your thoughts.
-- Will Fischer
wfischer@indiana.edu
(Grad Student)
Department of Biology "So much time, and so little to do!
Indiana University Wait. Strike that. Reverse it.
Bloomington, Indiana 47401 USA Thank you."
-- Willy Wonka
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas)
Subject: Hard and Optical drive speed?!?
Message-ID: <CIoKMM.A35@cc.umontreal.ca>
Summary: lies, all lies, I tell you.
Sender: news@cc.umontreal.ca (Administration de Cnews)
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 06:27:58 GMT
Here are some specs I read in the manuals of my 'new' next cube 040...
1989 user manual, 68030 days:
MASS STORAGE: 256 MB Optical Drive
NeXT interface using Optical Storage Processor
92 ms average seek time
18 ms ave. within 3MB
4.6 MB/sec raw burst transfer rate
800 KB/sec raw sustained transfer rate
Comment #1: What are they blathering about? 800KB/sec sustained?
and when does it ever read 4.6MB/sec? One track?
It's fast.. but not THAT fast?
Pamphlet for NeXT computers, 1990: NeXTcube page.
340 MB hard disk drive: 8.0 MB/sec max. transfer rate
and my user manual claims: 4.8 mb/sec max, 1.4 sustained.
elsewhere I saw: 2.0 meg/sec sustained.
What I would like to know is if there is a UNIX utility to determine
these things. I had a NeXTSTEP program called "DrivePerformance" or something
but that is full of it. It claims my hard drive reads and writes at 500-600
k/sec.. some kind of "in reality, this is it" -- well, stuffit. Isnt there
another program which will also rate my optical disk? I want a 2nd opinion :-)
Thanks.
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From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Can I replace internal Floppy drive on Next black?
Message-ID: <CIn9Ls.tu@zoodle.robin.de>
Date: 26 Dec 93 13:32:16 GMT
References: <2f7q9f$jo2@news.tamu.edu>
Sender: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Organization: meow!!!
Louis J. Everett writes
> I have an internal floppy on a color slab. It has a misaligned head
> (I am told). When I copy files to a 1.4 meg dos formatted disk, the files
> are not readable on other dos machines. Since the only problem is when
> Next writes the disk, I assume the Next disk drive is bad.
I've got the same symptoms. Until now it always helped to only use disks that
are also formatted on the NeXT floppy drive. Three times when the disk was
written somewhere else before. General rule: don't write anything anywhere else
on disks you intent to write to on your NeXT.
If this behaviour isn't strictly normal I'd like to know too.
> I want to replace it. Can I get a bargain basement fdd and stick it in?
I don't think so - at first it has to have a motor eject, but I doubt that
the drive has a standard Shugart bus. And it should be an ED drive too.
Bye,
Uli
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From: kosower@amoco.saclay.cea.fr (David A. Kosower)
Subject: NeXTstation serial ports
Sender: @nenuphar.saclay.cea.fr
Message-ID: <1993Dec27.103828.15798@nenuphar.saclay.cea.fr>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 10:38:28 GMT
Organization: Commissariat a l'Energie Atomique (CEA), France.
After an accident on port B (an old modem blew up & took port B with it), port A
worked briefly but now appears to have died. The NeXT seems to know that B is dead
but thinks that A is alive (e.g. tip is still happy with it).
Questions: are there other simple diagnostics I can use to figure out the affected
part? Does anyone have recommendations on servicing in the Paris area?
I would appreciate direct replies, as our news service is flakey.
Thanks
David A. Kosower
kosower@amoco.saclay.cea.fr
From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: *** All New OD Problem ! ***
Date: 27 Dec 1993 13:31:56 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <2fmo4c$p4t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi.
I've got a *NEW* OD problem on a VIC (Very-Important-Cube).
All of a sudden (without any gross mishandling) it refuses to accept disks.
They go in about 90% of the way and then stop at just about the point
I'm used to having them grabbed from my fingers.
I checked the power (and signal) cables.
Can dust cause this (is it using the optical head to detect disk
insertion)?
Is there a flakey microswitch in there somewhere?
Have YOU seen this problem?
Thanks in advance,
Robert
--
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--- Everything I say via this computer belongs to MIT. ---
---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: david.geary@mccaw.com (David Geary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Gateway P5-60 vs. Dell Dimension XPS
Date: 27 Dec 1993 14:46:43 GMT
Organization: McCaw Cellular Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <2fmsgj$8t5@ftp-p.mccaw.com>
I'm trying to make a decision. Anybody have any advice?
I'm leaning somewhat towards the Dell because it comes with the #9XGE card,
which 3.2 supports. With the Gateway, I'd have to wait for a Viper driver.
Other than that, the two systems seem pretty similar.
// David Geary Seattle: America's most Attractive City ...
// david.geary@mccaw.com ... to the _Jetstream_
From: rainer@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Staringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Summary: Which SCSI adapter to buy for NS/I
Date: 27 Dec 1993 16:49:06 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <2fn3m2$929@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Thanks to all the people who replied to my answer about SCSI
adapters for NS/Intel!
There seems to be a consensus that the DPT controllers are the
best choice for EISA machines. The Adaptec 1740 is only supported
in standard (154x) mode by NS/Intel. I got one reply that stated
that the BusLogic (747s) card tends to lose its config information,
and it needs a specific ROM version to work with NS.
I checked other newsgroups, too, and the DPT controllers seem to
be as widely supported as the Adaptecs. There aren't any drivers
for Linux or FreeBSD yet, but DPT makes all the needed info available
(contrary to Adaptec who don't publish the exact specs for their 2742),
so I expect this will change soon.
So I'll get myself a DPT card. Does anybody know of a place where I can
buy one by mail order? A fax number would be great!
Rainer
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From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: NeXT station on side?
Message-ID: <CIpD6H.2D1@dvorak.amd.com>
Sender: news@dvorak.amd.com (Usenet News)
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Austin TX
References: <CIoME8.903@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 16:44:40 GMT
In article <CIoME8.903@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> wfischer@bio.indiana.edu (Will
Fischer) writes:
>>Just got a new computer desk. The monitor is too high when it sits on
>>the pizza box (NeXT-station mono turbo) -- so I'm wondering if its okay
>>to run the machine on its left side (with the cables in back, and the
>>floppy drive facing up).
>>
>>I can only think of two problems with this arrangement:
>> 1. ventilation (but I have the "bottom" and right-side vents
>> clear)
>>
>> 2. dust and such could fall into the floppy drive.
>>
>>Are these serious concerns? Are there other serious matters that make
>>this a BAD IDEA? An alternative is to get a longer monitor cable: has
>>anyone out there gone that route (how expensive, and where might I find
>>one?)?
>>
>>Thanks for your thoughts.
>>
>>
I've been running like this for over a year now with no troubles...
--
Ronald Pomeroy
Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Subject: Re: Dead FIMI - need monitor and cable pinouts
Message-ID: <1993Dec27.144320.444@aplki.toppoint.de>
Sender: ploeger@aplki.toppoint.de (Andreas Ploeger)
Organization: Andreas Ploeger
References: <CIK15G.Exr@pdh.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 14:43:20 GMT
In article <CIK15G.Exr@pdh.com> jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen) writes:
> My FIMI monitor went dead and is unrepairable at reasonable cost.
While we are at it: Does anybody have service information (schematics) for
that monitor?
Pleeeaaase!
Andreas
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From: root@wsm.com (System Manager)
Subject: How to setup a 2GB Disk for NS and DOS?
Message-ID: <1993Dec27.211302.772@wsm.com>
Organization: Western Scientific
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 21:13:02 GMT
Hello,
I have a 486/66 with an Adaptec 1540B SCSI Controller. I am installing
NS 3.1 and I want to have the disk split up into 1GB for NS 3.1 and 1GB for
DOS/Windows. I wanted to get some ideas here before beating my head against
the table later on.
I cannot decide which to load first. If I try to load DOS first I
run into the >1GB Extended BIOS translation situation with DOS and the
1540B controller. I read that if I use the translation I may not be able
to have a readable non-DOS partition.
If I load NS3.1 (Which has no problems with >1GB disks that I know of)
and choose "Leave Space for DOS Parition" and set aside 1GB, will that 1GB
be visible to DOS when I set that partition to active and boot DOS?
I guess it comes down to "Does the BIOS translation translate the
entire physical disk or just a DOS partition greater than 1GB?"
Any experiences are greatly appreciated!
-Jeff
jeff@wsm.com
P.S.: Please respond via Email, I am way down the News foodchain
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: root@wsm.com (System Manager)
Subject: When will Non-ATI Color Video be out for NSFIP 3.2?
Message-ID: <1993Dec27.212657.865@wsm.com>
Organization: Western Scientific
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1993 21:26:57 GMT
Hello,
I have a 486/66 system and wish to have color instead of greyscale.
I currently have a Diamond VIPER VLB video controller with 1MB of RAM. I
have read that the ATI GUP VLB is the way to go for 16b color now. This is
a $350.00 video board around here and I already have a nice board. I read
in the NSFIP Compatibility Guide that support for the Diamond Viper VLB
will be here in Q1`94. Is that from NeXT or a 3rd Party?
If its from NeXT does anyone have a better idea of when it will
show up on ftp.next.com? Q1'94 can be from Jan 1st to March 31st, if anyone
has a more specific idea I'd like to know.
Is there someone at NeXT looking for Beta sites of the driver?
-Jeff
jeff@wsm.com
From: xinwei@otter.Stanford.EDU (Sha Xin Wei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS 3.2 - floptical disk problem?
Date: 28 Dec 1993 00:40:19 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <2fnv9j$ssc@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>
I installed NS 3.2 on a Motorola 68040 Cube,
inserted an optical disk, initialized under 3.0 with files from a 3.1
(Motorola).
The cube reported an error ("Disk is damaged...repair, eject?") so I asked it
to repair.
Repair failed. I ejected the floptical and brought it back to the NS 3.0 cube.
The 3.0 cube could not read the floptical.
fsck failed because could not find a valid superblock.
I tried to inspect with /etc/disk, but scan reported no superblocks.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
Sha Xin Wei
ASD
Stanford University
Some error msgs:
from /usr/adm/messages
Dec 27 14:05:12 otter mach: od0?: write failed (ECC) block 246884 phys block
246886 (19579:0:6)
Dec 27 14:11:09 otter mach: od0a: drive command failed (ECC) block 0 phys block
0 (4149:0:0)
Dec 27 14:24:59 otter mach: od0a: read recover (ECC) block 77 phys block 77
(4153:0:13)
Dec 27 14:24:59 otter last message repeated 3 times
From a session using /etc/disk:
disk> label
label information: print, write? pr
current label information on disk:
disk label version #3
disk label: SHAarchive1
disk name: omd-1
disk type: removable_rw_optical
ncyls 1029 ntrack 15 nsect 16 rpm 3000
sector_size 1024 front_porch 256 back_porch 256
ngroups 154 ag_size 1600 ag_alts 16 ag_off 784
boot blocks: #1 at 80 #2 at 168
bootfile: odmach
host name: otter
root partition: a
part base size bsize fsize cpg density minfree newfs optim automount type
a 0 243936 8192 1024 3 4096 5% yes time yes 4.3BSD
disk> bad
bad block table: print, edit, write, stats? pr
entry(ag,#): bad_block->alternate
entries not listed are available
0(0,0): 247675->1040
1(0,1): 248172->1041 2(0,2): 248188->1042 3(0,3): 249718->1043 4(0,4):
250273->1044 96(6,0): 11439->10640
144(9,0): 15526->15440
240(15,0): 24780->25040
288(18,0): 29950->29840
352(22,0): 36259->36240 353(22,1): 36677->36241 354(22,2): 36693->36242
384(24,0): 39657->39440
512(32,0): 51887->52240 513(32,1): 51907->52241 514(32,2): 52874->52242
624(39,0): 63410->63440
672(42,0): 68582->68240
784(49,0): 79690->79440 816(51,0): 82738->82640
848(53,0): 86367->85840 912(57,0): 92957->92240
928(58,0): 94098->93840 960(60,0): 96831->97040
961(60,1): 96847->97041 1008(63,0): 101388->101840
1009(63,1): 102572->101841 1072(67,0): 108809->108240 1152(72,0):
115569->116240
1153(72,1): 116387->116241 1154(72,2): 116403->116242 1248(78,0):
125807->125840
1264(79,0): 126713->127440 1408(88,0): 141570->141840 1409(88,1):
141586->141841 1504(94,0): 152115->151440 1584(99,0): 159409->159440
1600(100,0): 161644->161040 1776(111,0): 178420->178640
1824(114,0): 183865->183440
1825(114,1): 184195->183441 1840(115,0): 184995->185040 1952(122,0):
196802->196240 1953(122,1): 196989->196241 1954(122,2): 197005->196242
2000(125,0): 200783->201040 2016(126,0): 202898->202640
2017(126,1): 203291->202641 2018(126,2): 203307->202642 2080(130,0):
208371->209040 2112(132,0): 212618->212240
2144(134,0): 215450->215440 2160(135,0): 216389->217040
2161(135,1): 217431->217041 2272(142,0): 227578->228240 2304(144,0):
230994->231440
2416(151,0): 242123->242640 2417(151,1): 242259->242641 2432(152,0):
243901->244240 2433(152,1): 244293->244241 2448(153,0): 246066->245840
disk> bad
bad block table: print, edit, write, stats? st
61/2512 ( 2.4%) alternate blocks used
From: develand@herman.cs.uoguelph.ca (Darren Eveland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Cirrus Video
Date: 28 Dec 1993 02:31:36 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Message-ID: <2fo5q8$g3h@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Now that I have my 1 meg Cirrus video card working at 1024x768,
I was wondering what kind of refresh rate others are getting.
(2 bit mode).
I am getting what looked like a 55Hz refresh rate, which is not
too productive at 1024x768. Speed is OK, but yuck, refresh rate
is too low.
I have a 1 meg VL-BUS GD5426 Cirrus card, why can't I get at least
8 bit colour out of this puppy?? It does upto 24 bit under windows.
The VL-BUS will support the 32 bit data paths needed....is this just
an "under developed" driver, or does NeXTStep "require" at least
2 meg of V(d)ram for any sorta colour?
Please reply via e-mail...
Darren
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From: raptor!rlove (Robert B. Love )
Subject: NeXT Printer & Envelopes
Message-ID: <1993Dec28.052719.11153@nugget.rmNUG.ORG>
Sender: rlove@nugget.rmNUG.ORG
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 05:27:19 GMT
I bought some good quality, heavy paper envelopes and they won't feed thru
the printer--it reports paper jammed. Flimsy cheap envelopes feed fine.
Is there any adjustment I can make to use the good envelopes?
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From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: DPT SCSI controllers
Message-ID: <CIqtGF.6Eu@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
Organization: Demon Internet Limited.
References: <BWH.93Dec26104626@beach.cis.ufl.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 11:33:51 GMT
In article <BWH.93Dec26104626@beach.cis.ufl.edu> bwh@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian
Hook) writes:
>
> Does anyone have any experiences they can relate with the DPT caching SCSI
> controllers? Their ad specifically states NextStep as a supported
> operating system -- is this vaporware or do drivers really exist and work?
>
We been using DPTs on Intel since the beginning with no problems. With 3.2
nearly all variations are supported. Be carfull that you purchase a version
with up to date firmware.
--
Regards David Knight
FFC Software and Systems Limited
351 London Road Phone: (44) 0702 551010
Hadleigh Fax: (44) 0702 551515
Essex. SS7 2BT Email: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
From: skeets@joker.cac.stratus.com (Skeets)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Need 68030 to 68040 procedure
Date: 28 Dec 1993 20:04:45 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <2fq3gt$4mg@transfer.stratus.com>
I need need a procedure to upgrade a black box with a 68030 board to a
68040. After I install the hardware the box will not boot. It fails with
disk DMA errors.
I was told I need to update the disk's boot partition so it can recgonize
the 68040. The box I am trying to upgrade is running NeXTSTEP 2.1.
Any help will be appreciated.
Paul
skeets@cac.stratus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: root@dreams.skidmore.edu (Operator)
Subject: replacing small turbo drive with lager capacity--possible ?
Message-ID: <1993Dec28.220616.11965@scott.skidmore.edu>
Keywords: hard drive replace
Sender: news@scott.skidmore.edu (news manager)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 22:06:16 GMT
We have a turbo color Nextstation. It has a smallish internal HD (200 meg
?). I completed the NeXT repair course etc. so I know it's easy to swap
this HD in and out. My question is: can I now get a 400 or 600 or LARGER
HD that will fit into the same exact space inside the turbo color
station....and swap it for the smaller HD ? Where could I get such a
thing and what's the largest one I can get ?
Thanks for any info
please reply to: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
Anthony Holland
Skidmore College
Saratoga, NY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: root@dreams.skidmore.edu (Operator)
Subject: DSP and sound integration NEEDED for NSI
Message-ID: <1993Dec28.221136.12131@scott.skidmore.edu>
Keywords: sound
Sender: news@scott.skidmore.edu (news manager)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 22:11:36 GMT
I second the notion that the world badly needs a sound card that
duplicates the original DSP functions of the black hardware....seemlessly.
Yes, an integrated system....oh...a SUN spark(c ?) with an appropriate DSP
or bunch of them. Imagining running the MUSICKIT on the Quint Processor
(5 DSP's) on a SUN sparc !!
= @ 50 voices of real time FM synthesis !!
A. Holland
Skidmore College
Saratoga , NY
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: root@dreams.skidmore.edu (Operator)
Subject: Re: ProAudio + ISA in NS/I 3.2
Message-ID: <1993Dec28.221516.12294@scott.skidmore.edu>
Sender: news@scott.skidmore.edu (news manager)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
References: <CIH5B2.n7@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 22:15:16 GMT
Huh ? can somebody please translate the details here ? What's a:
1542C ??
A. Holland
Saratoga, NY
tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
Under 3.2, I use DMA3 and IRQ15 and it has worked flawlessly since. I can
now
`machingun' the broken glass sound *forever*
ISA 486DX2/66, ATI Ultra Pro, 1542C, Pro Audio Spectrum 16, two serial
ports
and a bus mouse (IRQ5). Floppy drive off the 1542C ...
Ciao -- Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: rms@netcom.netcom.com (Robert M. Searfus)
Subject: Dell Dimension XPS/Pentium NSFIP experience sought
Message-ID: <RMS.93Dec28173455@netcom.netcom.com>
Sender: rms@netcom.com (Robert M. Searfus)
Organization: NETCOM On-line services
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 01:34:55 GMT
I am evaluating the purchase of Dell's Dimension XPS 486/66 or
Pentium-based systems for use with NeXTSTEP. The most recent NeXT
Hardware Compatibility Guide only claims support for the Dell
Dimension XPS 486/66 and does not list any Dell (or for that matter,
very few other vendor's) Pentium-based systems.
I am interested in hearing from anyone that has purchased a Dimension
XPS 486/66 or Dell Pentium system and brought up NeXTSTEP on it. I
would also be interested in the experience others have had with other
'unsupported' Pentium systems.
Please include information about your system (vendor, model, bus type,
...), its configuration (video interface, SCSI interface, ...) as well
as any pitfalls encountered in the effort to make a working system.
Any performance information, qualitative or quantitative, would also
be helpful.
If there is enough interest, I would be happy to post a summary back
to the net.
(bob)
Robert M. Searfus
rms@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ror@netcom.com (RatSnatcher)
Subject: Re: Any luck with NS/FIP and ZEOS systems?
Message-ID: <rorCIrwop.KM0@netcom.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
References: <rawyattCIJ6Bs.6vJ@netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 01:41:00 GMT
Robert Wyatt (rawyatt@netcom.com) wrote:
: Just wondering if anyone has gotten NEXTSTEP to run on ZEOS systems? They
: seem like a pretty good bang for the buck deal...
I have one of their 486/66 VLB systems and NEXTSTEP run beautifully on it.
I had to buy an Adaptec SCSI card, and I'm only in 2-bit grayscale at
regular VGA resolution, but that's only because I can't afford to buy a
good video card at the moment. I don't know how good their monitors are
because I bought a Nec 5fg instead of the stock monitor.
I have found Zeos to have good customer service. They are available on the
Internet as "zeos.com." They have always answered all of my questions
promptly (via e-mail), and they have NEXTSTEP running in their labs, so
their tech people are familiar with it.
I don't know if I would go with Zeos if I were specifically buying a
machine to run NEXTSTEP (when I got my machine earlier this year, I didn't
know about NEXTSTEP) because the Zeos machine isn't on the certified list,
but Zeos's 486/66 will run NEXTSTEP. I'm sure you could call them and work
a deal where they would deliver a machine with all of the necessary parts,
eg: CD-ROM drive, video card, SCSI adapter, etc.
Zach
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From: mc2@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Mike Cox)
Subject: NICE vs AMI motherboards
Message-ID: <1993Dec29.023148.1317@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 93 02:31:48 GMT
What's the difference??? Which one is best (what ever *that* means...)
for NEXTSTEP??? (Maybe I should say preferred instead of best?)
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From: ian_stewart@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Subject: Color Printer 11x17 wanted
Message-ID: <CIs5r4.G2@pyrian.com>
Sender: ian@pyrian.com (Ian H. Stewart)
Organization: NYRO Technix, Inc. 415-664-1170
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 04:57:03 GMT
I am looking for a color printer that will work with a NeXTstation.
I was looking at CLC 350's but due to the volume we will print, they are a
little pricy. Something with similar quality is wanted and there must be
ppd's available.
Any help is appreciated.
Ian Stewart
NYRO Technix, Inc.
415 664-1170
From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with EtherExpress16 ?
Date: 27 Dec 1993 22:33:06 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
Message-ID: <2fnkai$2hv@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
References: <2fa2dt$10l@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
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windemut@cumbnd.bioc.columbia.edu (Andreas Windemuth) writes:
>I have an EtherExpress16 Ethernet interface, and I found
>two problems with it:
>1) When booting, the device driver says
> "EtherExpress: 8 bit only" (or similar)
This is well known and doesn't mean anything. Of course your
card works with a 16 bit bus.
>2) after a few minutes of flawless operation, the interface
> will suddenly start to feel slow, with delays of several
> seconds in telnet, for example, and the packet count will
> exhibit a constant background level of about 50 packets/s
> even if the system is completely quiet.
>Can anybody confirm this behaviour?
No, never seen this with my EtherExpress. Strange...
Regards,
Markus.
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From: mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: ?Okay, Pentium EISA/VLB system and NS/FIP...
Date: 27 Dec 1993 22:35:55 +0100
Organization: Palumbian Research Labs
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Keywords: Pentium,EISA,VLB,NS/FIP
mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes:
> A) An EISA based disk controller? The AHA1742 only works in AHA1542
> mode so hell with that, but have heard the support for the EISA based
> DPT controllers is problematic with NS/FIP, this true?
No. Can't tell anything bad about DPT. It just works, if you got the
latest EPROM revision.
> B) VLB based video card? (best if it could do 1120x832[?] native NeXT
> resolution but 1024x768 with 24bit color would suffice) Cost
> would need to be =< $500.
Look for the miro Crystal (S3928), Wingine or ATI GUP.
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From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
Subject: Re: Need 68030 to 68040 procedure
Message-ID: <1993Dec29.042727.12243@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <2fq3gt$4mg@transfer.stratus.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 04:27:27 GMT
Look at the disk command:
-b The boot program in /usr/standalone/boot will be
written onto the boot block area of the disk.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
In article <2fq3gt$4mg@transfer.stratus.com>
skeets@joker.cac.stratus.com (Skeets) writes:
> I need need a procedure to upgrade a black box with a 68030 board
to a
> 68040. After I install the hardware the box will not boot. It fails
with
> disk DMA errors.
>
> I was told I need to update the disk's boot partition so it can
recgonize
> the 68040. The box I am trying to upgrade is running NeXTSTEP 2.1.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Paul
> skeets@cac.stratus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
Subject: Re: replacing small turbo drive with lager capacity--possible ?
Message-ID: <1993Dec29.050720.12379@hot.com>
Sender: robertl@hot.com
Organization: Hot Technologies
References: <1993Dec28.220616.11965@scott.skidmore.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 05:07:20 GMT
The NeXTStation's accept 3.5" HH (half height or less) SCSI hard
drives. The (1/3 or 1") height drives should also fit. The largest
capacity (that I'm aware of) is around 1.4GB. Check
comp.sys.next.marketplace for used drives and Computer Shopper for
new drives. BTW - I've had good experiences with Insight mail order.
Robert La Ferla
Hot Technologies
In article <1993Dec28.220616.11965@scott.skidmore.edu>
root@dreams.skidmore.edu (Operator) writes:
> We have a turbo color Nextstation. It has a smallish internal HD
(200 meg
> ?). I completed the NeXT repair course etc. so I know it's easy to
swap
> this HD in and out. My question is: can I now get a 400 or 600 or
LARGER
> HD that will fit into the same exact space inside the turbo color
> station....and swap it for the smaller HD ? Where could I get such
a
> thing and what's the largest one I can get ?
>
> Thanks for any info
>
> please reply to: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
>
> Anthony Holland
> Skidmore College
> Saratoga, NY
>
From: "James Gaines" <p00378@psilink.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Longest NeXT Laser Printer Cable
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 93 20:12:38 -0600
Organization: GCC
Message-ID: <2966213517.3.p00378@psilink.com>
In-Reply-To: <2661@ks25.chi.il.us>
Standard length is 0.5 meters and the extended length is 3.0 meters!
Peace,
James
>DATE: 1 Oct 93 00:15:18 GMT
>FROM: Doug Waldron <dougw@ks25.chi.il.us>
>
>In article <1993Sep29.032602.7487@hot.com>, Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com writes:
>> Is it possible to get a longer NeXT laser printer cable? I'm sure
>> this is in a FAQ but I can't find it. How long is the standard cable
>> and how long is the extended one (if it's possible)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert
>
>Geeeeez, I sure hope that "printer cable" isn't slang for something else.
>
>How long is a standard one?? An extended one?? yuk yuk yuk, you're
>too much Robert!
>
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From: david@ffcsas.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Need 68030 to 68040 procedure
Message-ID: <CIsJIK.Ayx@demon.co.uk>
Sender: news@demon.co.uk (Usenet Administration)
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Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 09:54:19 GMT
In article <2fq3gt$4mg@transfer.stratus.com> skeets@joker.cac.stratus.com
(Skeets) writes:
> I need need a procedure to upgrade a black box with a 68030 board to a
> 68040. After I install the hardware the box will not boot. It fails with
> disk DMA errors.
>
> I was told I need to update the disk's boot partition so it can recgonize
> the 68040. The box I am trying to upgrade is running NeXTSTEP 2.1.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
I beleive though am not certain that 2.2 was introduced to overcome this and
some other 040 problems. You may need to downgrade hardware, upgrade to 2.2 or
higher then upgrade the hardware again.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos)
Subject: Toshiba 3401 via Audio Spectrum's SCSI?
Message-ID: <CIspBE.H7G@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Sender: usenet@ra.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 11:59:37 GMT
1. Was anybody succesfull in using the Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM drive with the SCSI
interface that is coming with the Audio Spectrum 16 sound card? Would anybody
please respond before I spend any money on such a combo?
2. Which versions of the Toshiba 3401 are supported from NSFIP 3.2 ?
3. Are ther any inexpensive controllers other than the ones on the NeXT list
that can be used on white hardware with NSFIP 3.2?
Anxiously waiting for repplies,
--john
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Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 10:04:24 EST
From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Message-ID: <93363.100424HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Cirrus Video WORKS!!!
References: <2fdtkh$c3c@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Why would typing exit at the login script fix a video garble problem?
Well, typing exit, from my understanding, restarts the window server.
If the problem of garbling is a config mismatch between the hardware
and the server then this would be reset on restart, not before. Presto,
your problem is solved.
BTW, often when apps cause wierdness with the WS loging out, then exit,
then back in fixes the problem.
Just my understanding, I'm no expert ;<)
Rob Harrap
Geological Sciences
Queen's U
harrap@geol.queensu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: *** All New OD Problem ! ***
Message-ID: <CIs1Cp.HC@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
Organization: K. L. Shephard Consulting
References: <2fmo4c$p4t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 03:22:00 GMT
In article <2fmo4c$p4t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert
Lutwak) writes:
#Hi.
#
#I've got a *NEW* OD problem on a VIC (Very-Important-Cube).
#
#All of a sudden (without any gross mishandling) it refuses to accept disks.
#They go in about 90% of the way and then stop at just about the point
#I'm used to having them grabbed from my fingers.
#
#I checked the power (and signal) cables.
#
#Can dust cause this (is it using the optical head to detect disk
#insertion)?
#
#Is there a flakey microswitch in there somewhere?
I had a bad cable do this to me.
It was the original black cable and it just
died one day.
I forget how many pins is has but I just went
to the local place that sells computer hadware and paid $3.00
for a new cable. It now works great.
Kent
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From: kent@infoserv.com
Subject: Re: Dead FIMI - need monitor and cable pinouts
Message-ID: <CIs1Jp.I3@infoserv.com>
Sender: kent@infoserv.com (Kent L. Shephard)
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Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 03:26:13 GMT
In article <CIK15G.Exr@pdh.com> jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen) writes:
#Another option is to buy a new or used analog color monitor that
#can be used with a Colorstation. In that case, I would like to
#know if anyone has the pinouts from the NeXT Colorstation video
#cable to drive R-G-B (and possibly H and V sync). I had, for a
#while, a NEC 5FG (excellent monitor, BTW) and I was using a loaned
#adaptor that NeXT sells to convert the standard cable plug (weird
#DIN) to three BNC connectors for R-G-B. However, I understand the
#cost on this adaptor from Bell Atlantic is pretty high. I could
#make one myself if I had the proper pinouts.
The connector that NeXT used on their color machines is the same
as the Sun connector. If you find a Sun cable that is 13W3 (I think that's
the designation) to BNC it should work with no problem.
Kent
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From: peter@piassun2.joanneum.ac.at (Peter Resele)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ATI VLB vs. ATI EISA ?
Date: 29 Dec 1993 15:57:46 GMT
Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <2fs9dqINN5v6@fstgds15.tu-graz.ac.at>
yet another question...
Has anybody ever compared the ATI VLB to the ATI EISA card? I know the EISA
version should be slower, the question is: how much (noticable)?
(I've got an EISA mainboard and I wonder whether I just should go for a new
VLB mainboard, or buy the EISA ATI)
Thanks a lot
Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Ralph_Jung@radical.com (Ralph Jung)
Subject: FYI: Texel DM-3024/DM-5024 Update
Message-ID: <1993Dec29.151556.29753@radical2.radical.com>
Sender: ralph@radical2.radical.com
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 15:15:56 GMT
If you own a TEXEL DM-3024/DM-5024 CD ROM drive, then you may be interested in
the following information.
I recently talked to TEXEL Technical Support and discovered that the DM-X024
has been replaced by the DM-X028. I was also informed that a final ROM version
1.11 has been released for the DM-X024. The point of interest to NEXTSTEP, as
well as O/S 2 and NT, users is a fix for a bug when using multi-tasking
operating systems.
If you want to know what ROM version you currently have, watch when NEXTSTEP
registers the CD ROM and you will see a message that looks something like:
TEXEL DM-X024 K 1.09
The above message indicates that I have ROM version 1.09 in my drive. I've
been experiencing some problems when using NEXTSTEP 3.1 and this version. The
drive seems to "hang" when going down long directory trees. I also see some
random SCSI retries and media errors at boot. The drive works just dandy most
of the time under NEXTSTEP and always works fine under DOS/Windows.
If you want to burn your own ROM's, the binary is available for FREE on the
TEXEL BBS at 1-408-986-1569. For more information or to order a new ROM for
about $13, contact TEXEL Technical Support at 1-800-886-3935.
If you have an internal DM-3024 and a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound card, you can
obtain the special AUDIO cable to connect the CD ROM to the PAS 16 for about
$22 by calling 1-800-923-2225. This cable is also supposed to attenuate the
drive's audio output level to the sound card's input level to prevent any
distortion.
I have not received either my new ROM or audio cable yet so this is all I can
tell you about them right now.
--
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From: gfin@cyber.psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley)
Subject: Re: Cirrus Video
Message-ID: <1993Dec29.165452.19696@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Sender: news@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
References: <2fo5q8$g3h@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 16:54:52 GMT
Darren Eveland writes
>
> Now that I have my 1 meg Cirrus video card working at 1024x768...
> I am getting what looked like a 55Hz refresh rate...
I'm bothered by this too. The problem is that the Cirrus driver
is using using an interlaced mode (mode 5Di, I suspect). As you
probably know, interlaced operation is less demanding of the monitor
than noninterlaced operation is, but the slow refresh rate gives you
ugly flicker.
In our case, the frame rate is 43.5 Hz, well below the 60 or so
needed to hide any flicker (the NeXT mono display uses 70 Hz). The
Cirrus VGA chipset is capable of noninterlaced operation at 1024x768
(mode 5D, not 5Di), and most good multisync monitors could cope with
the resulting 87 Hz refresh rate, so what we're talking about here
is just the lack of a driver that'll make full use of the hardware.
I've called Tech Support at Cirrus Logic a couple of times and
talked to Tony Mann. He's promised to send me a description of
the VGA registers that control the mode so that I can write a program
to switch the card into the noninterlaced mode that we want.
Promised, but *not* delivered. I've called him 3 times over the last
3 weeks, and he hasn't sent me any information yet.
If you'd like to help me get this fix under way, call Tony Mann at
Cirrus Logic (510-226-2304), and tell him that you share my interest
in the matter and would like to have the information released so
that we can fix the problem.
--------------------------------------------
Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept.
gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!)
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From: shergot5@mach1.wlu.ca (scott hergott)
Subject: UPS and NSI 3.2
Message-ID: <CIt5Dt.E2s@mach1.wlu.ca>
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 17:46:40 GMT
I am currently running NSI and want to put a UPS (Uninteruptable Power
Supply) on my machine. The reason for this descision is that recently I had
a power failure, and upon reboat found the entire file structure corrupted
and had to reinstall the OS from scratch.
Since I am often away from my machine when it is working on
calculations, just having a UPS connected will not help. (ie. After 5-10
minutes I would again experience a power failure.) What I need is to have
NeXTSTEP realize that the power has failed and to shut itself down
within the 5-10 minutes. Is such a thing possible? If so, what model of
UPS and what Software is required?
Thanks,
Scott Hergott
Email : shergot5@mach1.wlu.ca
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From: harryt@world.std.com (Harry D Tirrell)
Subject: Re: Need 68030 to 68040 procedure
Message-ID: <CItAJ9.E8p@world.std.com>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <2fq3gt$4mg@transfer.stratus.com> <CIsJIK.Ayx@demon.co.uk>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 19:37:56 GMT
When i upgraded my 030 to an 040 turbo under 3.0, I just slid one
out and slid the other in. You probably have to upgrade the
software
harry
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From: piro@mendieta.uib.es (Oreste Piro)
Subject: Hayes adaptor?
Message-ID: <1993Dec29.191044.1869@uab.es>
Sender: news@uab.es (USENET News System)
Organization: UAB
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 19:10:44 GMT
About the hayes adaptor needed to use PhoneKit:
a)What is it?
b)Where can I get it?
c)For how much?
Is it just a phone cable connected to the right pins of the DSP port?
if so, what are the right pins?
Please, answer directly to me (the news feed here is not that reliable).
Thanks in advance,
--
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From: yangboy@cauchy.math.ntu.edu.tw (B.Y.)
Subject: Printer problems
Message-ID: <1993Dec29.221245.5744@ccds3.ntu.edu.tw>
Sender: usenet@ccds3.ntu.edu.tw (USENET PROXY ACCOUNT)
Follow-Up-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Organization: ???
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 22:12:45 GMT
Hello, perhaps someone can help this clumsy-fingered guy make sure. A NeXT
LaserPrinter (standard issue that comes with NeXT Station) has begun to
develop "ghost images" along the leftmost 1/4 of the (A4) paper. That is,
there are light smudging and a double of the image appears about halfway
down. I think I have some idea where to clean, but just want to make sure.
Thank you in advance for any help/pointers. P.S. I am not sure which of
the c.s.n.* groups is the right one to ask this stupid question in so pls.
forgive if I treaded upon some regulation....
Thank you!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: n9240566@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu (Leif E. Harrison)
Subject: NeXT Cube -> modem serial cables
Message-ID: <n9240566.757206325@rowlf>
Summary: What kind of serial cable for NeXT Cube to modem?
Keywords: NeXT Cube modem serial cable
Sender: news@henson.cc.wwu.edu (USENET-WWU)
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: 29 Dec 93 23:05:25 GMT
Is the serial port(s) on the NeXT cube standard in any way, shape,
or form? Is it possible to go to a local retail place (say, for Mac's or
PC's) and pick up a serial cable? or am I going to have to order one
special from some place that still (for some strange reason) carries
NeXT specific serial cables?
I think and hope that some kind of Mac uses the same kind of cable,
but am not sure. It would be nice to know before I order my modem.
Thanks in advance,
- Leif Harrison
n9240566@henson.cc.wwu.edu
rexfelis@bailey.cpac.washington.edu
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From: member8008@aol.com (member8008)
Errors-To: <member8008@aol.com>
MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at demon.demon.co.uk
Subject: Driver Help
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 23:31:34 +0000
Message-ID: <9312291831.tn24137@aol.com>
Sender: usenet@demon.co.uk
I have a Intel Workstation ( Not the GX model) I was wondering where I can
get a driver made for my on-board external SCSI it uses the NCR 53700I/O
controller. I heard that the NCR is the same one used in the NeXT stations.
Thanks
Ron
member8008@aol.com
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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Problems with EtherExpress16 ?
Message-ID: <1993Dec30.032536.13790@cs.yale.edu>
Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
References: <2fnkai$2hv@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 03:25:36 GMT
In article <2fnkai$2hv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus
Wenzel) writes:
> >I have an EtherExpress16 Ethernet interface, and I found
> >two problems with it:
>
> >1) When booting, the device driver says
> > "EtherExpress: 8 bit only" (or similar)
> This is well known and doesn't mean anything. Of course your
> card works with a 16 bit bus.
On what information do you base this claim?
I benchmarked network performance of a system that booted with the "8
bit only" message. It was very slow, as might be suspected if only
running in 8 bit mode. The same card running in another system that
booted in 16 bit mode was much faster.
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From: sam@talus.com (Semyon Sosin)
Subject: Re: Driver Help
Message-ID: <1993Dec30.014040.698@talus.com>
Sender: sam@talus.com
Organization: Talus Corporation
References: <9312291831.tn24137@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 01:40:40 GMT
In article <9312291831.tn24137@aol.com> member8008@aol.com (member8008) writes:
| I have a Intel Workstation ( Not the GX model) I was wondering where I can
| get a driver made for my on-board external SCSI it uses the NCR 53700I/O
| controller. I heard that the NCR is the same one used in the NeXT stations.
| Thanks
| Ron
| member8008@aol.com
As as person who writing a NS/FIP driver for NCR53C810 PCI SCSI chip I can
definetely say to you that there's no NS/FIP drivers around for other NCR
chips. At least in NCR. Whether there will be driver(s) for their earlier SCSI
chips it's difficult to say -- it depends is there someone with money who
willing it -- at last I see no technical obstacles to do so.
So by now there's no way :-( Keep the faith or switch to Windows NT :-)
Regards,
--
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From: jfr@aspen.pdh.com (Jon F. Rosen)
Subject: Re: Dead FIMI - need monitor and cable pinouts
Message-ID: <CItMqz.K07@pdh.com>
Sender: news@pdh.com (USENET News Account)
Organization: PDH, Inc.
References: <CIs1Jp.I3@infoserv.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 00:01:46 GMT
kent@infoserv.com writes
> Jon F. Rosen writes:
> #Another option is to buy a new or used analog color monitor that
> #can be used with a Colorstation. In that case, I would like to
> #know if anyone has the pinouts from the NeXT Colorstation video
> #cable to drive R-G-B (and possibly H and V sync). I had, for a
> #while, a NEC 5FG (excellent monitor, BTW) and I was using a
> #loaned adaptor that NeXT sells to convert the standard cable
> #plug (weird DIN) to three BNC connectors for R-G-B. However, I
> #understand the cost on this adaptor from Bell Atlantic is pretty
> #high. I could make one myself if I had the proper pinouts.
>
> The connector that NeXT used on their color machines is the same
> as the Sun connector. If you find a Sun cable that is 13W3 (I
> think that's the designation) to BNC it should work with no
> problem.
I found one of these but the problem is that the 13W3 end is male.
This is obviously intended to connect to the computer/video output
of the Sun. Unfortunately, the NeXT colorstations combine the
computer/video cable with the soundbox connector cable. Thus, a
Sun-compatible 13W3 -> RGB BNC doesn't cut it. What is needed is a
FEMALE 13W3 -> RGB BNC extension so that you can connect the end of
the NeXT connector to the extension cable and then to the monitor.
I have had tremendous difficulty finding a 13W3 Male OR Female
connector. Does someone know where one might find a female
connector? (I bet NeXT had a bunch of these sold at the auction
:-) The pinouts turn out to be trivial as there are no normal pins
connecting from the plug to the monitor, only the wide pins which
carry the R, G and B.
Jon
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From: marketing@nextsrv1.andi.org (Marketing Director)
Subject: ANDI NEXTSTEP Resource Guide - Last chance to participate
Message-ID: <CIt1Mq.Ao4@nextsrv1.andi.org>
Keywords: ANDI,NEXTSTEP
Sender: usenet@nextsrv1.andi.org (usenet)
Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 16:25:38 GMT
ANDI - The Association of NeXTSTEP (and soon Openstep) Developers
International, Inc. is pleased to announce that we are producing a
catalog for use at the tradeshows where we exhibit. It will be known
at the NEXTSTEP Resource Guide by ANDI. The catalog grew from the
need to supply people who are interested, but not currently using
NEXTSTEP, up-to-date information. In order to keep buyers aware of
new developments, we will be publishing the catalog 3 or 4 times a
year to coincide with our tradeshow schedule. In addition, we will
put an electronic copy of the catalog on the ANDI InfoServer and
distribute it freely to User Groups.
Our goal is to produce a good looking, but low cost (for both ANDI
and you) catalog in print that we can afford to give away by the
1,000's. We have found that people want to pick up something which
will let them read about NEXTSTEP as well as what 3rd party Apps and
NEXTSTEP related services are available.
Pricing for the first issue is as follows:
1/4 page: $100
1/2 page: $200
Full page:$400
Covers (Inside front, inside back, outside back): $1500
The front cover of the catalog will feature our character, "ANDI
man", and something similar to the familiar stack of blocks. If you
would like your company logo on one of the blocks, add $100 to the
price of your ad. The ad prices are for black and white ads.
Depending on the nature of the material received, we may produce the
catalog in one or two colors. If you are interested in a full page
color ad, please contact us directly.
Price lists will be generated separately. Your pricing should include
the Suggested List Price. We suggest you consider providing a
Wholesale Price for reseller's and an ANDI member discount.
The first issue will distributed at the East Coast Developers
Conference, January 24-26, 1994. Deadline for submitting material is
January 6, 1994 but please help us by not waiting until the last
moment.
Ads may be submitted as camera ready copy or as an Adobe Illustrator
file. Please contact us directly if you wish to supply ads in other
formats. If you need assistance in creating an ad, please contact us
directly.
The catalog will be 8 1/2 by 11 inches in size. Ad sizes are as
follows:
1/4 page: 4 inches wide by 5 1/4 inches tall
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Full page and covers: 8 inches wide by 10 1/2 inches tall
The NEXTSTEP Resource Guide will be divided into two sections. The
first section will list products by category which will include your
company contact information, and a "brief" description of the product
or service, not to exceed 50 words. The second section will include
your display ad.
Note: User Groups can receive a free listing in the first section.
Consider joining ANDI as a Developer or Corporate member at the same
time. Developer members get a 1/2 page ad for the price of a 1/4
page ad. Corporate members have the same option or a Full page ad for
the price of a 1/2 page ad. By joining ANDI your membership cost can
help pay for itself.
Developer membership: $275
Corporate membership: $1500
If you participate in the catalog and supply ANDI with a working,
fully licensed version of your software with packaging and manuals,
ANDI will demo your software, display your manual(s), and use your
packaging as part of our display. Hardware and peripheral vendors
should contact ANDI directly.
Make checks payable to ANDI and send to us at the address listed
below.
If you plan to participate we will email you the categories and
sample description.
To receive this send mail to:marketing@andi.org
In the subject field:ANDI catalog - sample
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From: dgoldrin@on.bell.ca (Dmitri Goldring)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Rebooting in single-user mode on Intel Hardware
Date: 30 Dec 1993 07:57:40 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9312301357.AA17312@dmoc61.on.bell.ca>
Call me stupid (please), but I can't seem to figure out how
to start up my NIP machine in single-user mode. I need to do
so, as whenever I get into the GUI environment, it hangs.
Now, here's why you should call me stupid:
I was trying to build X (which was going fairly well). I (surprise)
ran out of disk space. Rather than delete stuff and try again, I decided
to nuke the OS/2 partition on my other drive and format it for NeXT.
(I'm not sure I did that right either, as NeXT fdisk doesn't seem to think
there's anything on that drive :( ) I then added the new disk to
/etc/fstab (having mounted it successfully) and rebooted.
Now, every time I get to the windowing environment the cursor is available
until I try and do something (exception: I can move windows around). It
then goes into accessing disk mode and stays there forever (or as near
as makes no difference). Needless to say, the disk and swap partition are
at 111% full. *sigh*
Any suggestions? Please mail me, as I receive the news by summary and
would rather not wait to long to fix this #@%#@%@ problem.
My HW setup is:
486 DX/2 66
2 500MB SCSI Drives
CDROM
The primary next partition is on disk 0, the new (questionable) partition is
on disk 1. There is also a DOS partition on disk 0 (which must survive).
The reason I'm asking about single-user mode, is that I hope to get in
and wipe some files (which I hope will help).
I know entering s-u mode requires a combination key press at reboot,
but exactly which keys, and at what stage of reboot I have no idea.
Thank for any help!
D.
From: wilkie@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Floppy drive problem
Date: 30 Dec 1993 14:04:00 GMT
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Austria
Message-ID: <2fun4g$k13@email.tuwien.ac.at>
On my system (486/50, Adaptec 1742 + ISA Floppy Controller,
ATI Ultra Pro) the floppy drive is behaving erratically.
With clean floppies it behaves all right, but trying to
fix damaged ones or even reading them sends the system
down with some really entertaining messages such as
KERNEL PANIC(6,2,1) and so on. Usually the (SCSI-HD) filesystem is
also severly damaged (-> RUN FSCK MANUALLY etc).
Has anyone had similar problems?
Please tell
A.W.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: fabien@free.fdn.org (Fabien Roy)
Subject: Re: DSP and sound integration NEEDED for NSI
Message-ID: <1993Dec30.121544.9641@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Electronic Engineering (F.R.E.E.) - Paris, France.
References: <1993Dec28.221136.12131@scott.skidmore.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 12:15:44 GMT
In article <1993Dec28.221136.12131@scott.skidmore.edu>
root@dreams.skidmore.edu (Operator) writes:
> I second the notion that the world badly needs a sound card that
> duplicates the original DSP functions of the black
hardware....seemlessly.
> Yes, an integrated system....oh...a SUN spark(c ?) with an appropriate
DSP
> or bunch of them. Imagining running the MUSICKIT on the Quint Processor
> (5 DSP's) on a SUN sparc !!
>
> = @ 50 voices of real time FM synthesis !!
>
> A. Holland
> Skidmore College
> Saratoga , NY
>
> tholland@pars.skidmore.edu
I am following this:
Does anybody knows the specs of the DSP56001 on blackHW: memory
organization (shared or separate between 68040 and 56001), interrupts,
reset mechanism, DMA etc...
This because tired of waiting for MaxAudio I would like to set up a
project to build a card that duplicate the functionality of the original
Black/HW on Intel.
The project I plan will be FREE (schematics, wire list, pal equations,
plotting files etc...) so anybody with a good HW experience could wire
wrap a prototype or a group could also make some printed circuit boards.
Any suggestions welcome :-)
--Fabien
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From: M.Crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk (Malcolm Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: DSP and sound integration NEEDED for NSI
Date: 30 Dec 1993 10:16:57 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Sender: daemon@cs.utexas.edu
Message-ID: <9312301618.AA03148@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
> Does anybody knows the specs of the DSP56001 on blackHW:
> memory organization (shared or separate between 68040
> and 56001), interrupts, reset mechanism, DMA etc... This
> because tired of waiting for MaxAudio I would like to
> set up a project to build a card that duplicate the
> functionality of the original Black/HW on Intel. The
> project I plan will be FREE (schematics, wire list, pal
> equations, plotting files etc...) so anybody with a good
> HW experience could wire wrap a prototype or a group
> could also make some printed circuit boards.
>
Hey Fabien, that would be *excellent*!
I suspect it won't be *easy*, but I'd love you to have a go, as I'm
sure would many others.
You might try contacting i-Link who were also planning to do a
56k-based card: I've temporarily mislaid their contact details (:-(( )
can anybody else help?
You could also try the NeXTSTEP Audio Standard list
<nas@flip.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
there are a number of people there who might be interested too.
Have fun,
mmalcolm.
From: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Driver for NCR onboard SCSI (on PCI board)
Date: 30 Dec 1993 16:55:39 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <2fv16b$rd5@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I am desperately seeking for an NS/FIP driver for the onboard SCSI controller
from NCR which is built into a lot of PCI motherboards (from ASUS,
EliteGroup, etc.).
These boards are moderately priced and offer great performance, especially when
combined with a PCI graphics card. Support of the NCR SCSI controller would
make a cheap enough NeXT Color PC with good performance possible.
I hope NCR support will happen soon ! Any rumors ?
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From: woo@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Alex Woo RAA)
Subject: Spurious DMA interrupt
Message-ID: <1993Dec30.182325.5797@news.arc.nasa.gov>
Summary: What does this mean?
Sender: usenet@news.arc.nasa.gov
Organization: Stanford.EDU
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 18:23:25 GMT
I am getting the following error message from a 25MHz 68040
NeXTCube with 16MB of memory and no optical drive.
mach: spurious DMA interrupt: state 0x1000000 channel 0x2000110
Can anyone tell me what this means?
Thanks.
woo@playfair.stanford.edu
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From: onyxcat@unm.edu (The Onyx Kitten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Booting an 030 without a monitor
Date: 30 Dec 1993 11:52:09 -0700
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Sender: onyxcat@unm.edu
Message-ID: <2fv80p$rk7@vesta.unm.edu>
I'm trying to boot an 030 board, without the MegaPixel. The 030 is in my
cube, and I have no other cube boards.
I've tried sticking a 450 Ohm resistor between pins 6 (power switch) and
13 (common ground) of the DB-19 monitor out. It "tries" to boot,
but won't (every 2 seconds you hear a 'click', but it doesn't get anywhere).
I have a MexaPixel to plug into it, but if you pull the cord, the machine
powers down. NeXTStation 040 slabs handle this no prob., too bad 030's
don't.
Also - I'm looking for pin out specifications for both the 96 pin Cube
NeXTBUS (I think NeXT part #N6010 is the docs for this),
and also the NeXTStation Power Inputs (the 12 wires
from the slab Sony PS). No one I've talked to seems to know this stuff...
Anyone who can help me out will have a NeXT hardware hacker eternally
grateful to them ;-) - Thanks Netters...
Cliff
onyxcat@unm.edu
From: robert@steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: The 13W3 to 3 BNC cable EXPOSED!!!
Date: 30 Dec 1993 19:23:22 -0000
Organization: me organized? That's a joke!
Message-ID: <2fv9ra$1e8@steffi.demon.co.uk>
Nathan, I suggest this be put in the FAQ.
*DISCLAIMER
I take no responsiblity for the following.
If you can source the bits yourself here's how it's built.
1 female 13W3 connector
3 Male BNC connectors
3 mini coax
ie. the pins to the coaxials are male and the regular pins are female.
Looks like this.
. o o o o o . . 13W3 FEMALE
A1 o o o o o A2 A3
| | |
Red Green Blue 3 BNC's
That's the coax part.
The outer shielding of the coax's are grounded on both pin 10 and the case.
--
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Promising to deliver but not delivering what you promised.
From: next2@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with EtherExpress16 ?
Date: 30 Dec 93 21:04:25 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <next2.757285465@info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <2fnkai$2hv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> <1993Dec30.032536.13790@cs.yale.edu>
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>In article <2fnkai$2hv@marsu.tynet.sub.org> mow@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus
>Wenzel) writes:
>> >I have an EtherExpress16 Ethernet interface, and I found
>> >two problems with it:
>>
>> >1) When booting, the device driver says
>> > "EtherExpress: 8 bit only" (or similar)
>> This is well known and doesn't mean anything. Of course your
>> card works with a 16 bit bus.
>On what information do you base this claim?
>I benchmarked network performance of a system that booted with the "8
>bit only" message. It was very slow, as might be suspected if only
>running in 8 bit mode. The same card running in another system that
>booted in 16 bit mode was much faster.
A friend of mine told me about it, and he had read it in the News.
I must admit my statement referred to NeXTSTEP 3.1. In 3.2, the message
disappeared. However, I didn't notice any performance difference between
3.1 with 8 bit message and 3.2 without.
Can anyone clarify this?
--
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From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Subject: Just want some confirmation ...
Message-ID: <espritCIvBEx.Fn8@netcom.com>
Keywords: 2M SIMMs, NeXT
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 21:52:08 GMT
I just wanted to confirm this because I saw no statement in the FAQ.
Do 2M SIMMs (like from a Mac) work on a '030 NeXT board? Has anyone
tried this?
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