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Date: Sun 08-Nov-1991 08:49:48 From: pyrros@cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros) Subject: 200 486s or 200 NeXTs? Can you convice a university? I just saw the following article posted in comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc, and I think it is a WASTE. I'd like to beg everyone to barrage this guy with email about the mistake he is about to make. The University of Delaware recently made a similar mistake, getting SUNS running DERIVE under SoftPC, when they could have had NeXTs with mathematica for less. The local sales rep wasn't as good as he should have been, and made a bad impression. Anyway, this is a chance to tell people who aren't aware of NeXT about it. So here is the article, and the reply I posted to comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc follows. In article <1991Nov8.134927.38124@qut.edu.au> cszduffy@qut.edu.au writes: > >The Faculty is looking at installing 2 PC networks for the start on 1992 >academic year. This installation will correspond with the move to a >new building sometime in late January/ early February. > >The 2 networks will consists of the following equipment: > >1) student network: > 1 x HP 9000/730 Unix Server 32Mb RAM, 1Gb disk > 200 x 486 PC's, 4Mb RAM, WD ether cards, 2 floppies, sVGA > >2) student network: > 1 x HP 9000/730 Unix Server 32Mb RAM, 1Gb disk > 4 x HP Laserjet IIIsi > 60 x PC's from XT to 486's, WD ether card >The two options which are currently under investigation are: >A) LanManager >b) Novell portable netware > > diskless booting for student laboratory PC's > access to e-mail services which reside on Unix > gateway to NFS file services on Unix > access control to software, both by passwords and number of connections > the ability to connect to a service without having to specify the > password for the service in a batch file... > access to Unix printers > the ability to co-habitate with a TCP-IP stack as all PC's should have the > capability to connect to Unix or VMS via TCP-IP for terminal sessions > >???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? >Could anyone please send me your experiences with setting up such a network. > >Thankyou. >=============================================================================== >Sidney James DUFFY | Unix the Final Frontier >Technical Services Section | AARnet: sidney@snow.fit.qut.edu.au >Faculty of Information Technology | PSIMAIL: CSZDUFFY@QUT.EDU.AU >Queensland University of Technology | Voice: +[061][07] 864 2177 >GPO Box 2434 Brisbane QLD 4001 | FAX: +[061][07] 864 1507 >=============================================================================== Wait a second... you are going to get *two hundred* 486s? And you want to do it with Novell? <roar of laughter> You might want to seriously consider NeXTstations. They are FASTER, CHEAPER, and include all the necessary networking software FREE. You want to run DOS applications you say.... SoftPC has been available for the NeXT for some time now (now ver 2.0) and runs all MS-DOS apps, emulating a 286-12MHz. It would be unbelieveably easier, cheaper, and more effective to use NeXTs rather than 486s. Built in ethernet, both thin coax and twisted pair, 25MHz 68040, NFS, mail, all the standard UNIX apps, Mathematica 2.0 (free!), and lots of goodies. NeXT has excellent education/quantity discounts. Call them at 1-800-848-NeXT. I don't mean to sound like a salesman, but I get a little upset when I see institutions spending gobs and gobs of money for solutions that are only a hack and often *don't work in the end*, when you can buy a system that is guaranteed to work for less. Not to mention all the LABOR you would save. I'm not affiliated with NeXT, etc, etc. Just my opinion.... Chris
Date: Sun 12-Nov-1991 23:10:10 From: dwboyce@acsu.buffalo.edu (Doug Boyce) Subject: Re: 200 486s or 200 NeXTs? Can you convice a university? In article <69726@nigel.ee.udel.edu> pyrros@cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros) writes: >I just saw the following article posted in comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc, >and I think it is a WASTE. I'd like to beg everyone to barrage this guy >with email about the mistake he is about to make. The University of Delaware >recently made a similar mistake, getting SUNS running DERIVE under SoftPC, >when they could have had NeXTs with mathematica for less. The local sales >rep wasn't as good as he should have been, and made a bad impression. > >So here is the article, and the reply I posted to comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc >follows. > >In article <1991Nov8.134927.38124@qut.edu.au> cszduffy@qut.edu.au writes: >> >>The Faculty is looking at installing 2 PC networks for the start on 1992 > >>academic year. This installation will correspond with the move to a >>new building sometime in late January/ early February. >> >>The 2 networks will consists of the following equipment: >> >>1) student network: >> 1 x HP 9000/730 Unix Server 32Mb RAM, 1Gb disk >> 200 x 486 PC's, 4Mb RAM, WD ether cards, 2 floppies, sVGA >> >>2) student network: >> 1 x HP 9000/730 Unix Server 32Mb RAM, 1Gb disk >> 4 x HP Laserjet IIIsi >> 60 x PC's from XT to 486's, WD ether card Before you inudate this guy's mailbox with descriptions of his delusions of grandeur realize that Australia currently has *no* legal/authorized dealer (as gleaned from the c.s.n groups and NeXTWORLD).
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