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Date: Sun 11-Feb-1990 09:29:39 From: Unknown Subject: So how about X So now that it is almost a month past the supposed release of the X11 Server for the cube, does any body have any information about it or has it been neatly postponed? On a similar note has anyone tried to compile R4 on the cubes, and if so any neat tricks that I should know about before I start? <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> :-{ :-\<> Russell Cattelan University of Minnesota <> <> :-} :-`) <> cattelan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu <> <> :-) :-( <> {...!rutgers!umn-cs!cattelan} <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >From: smb@datran2.uunet (Steven M. Boker)
Date: Sun 12-Feb-1990 02:26:15 From: Unknown Subject: Re: So how about X In article <1990Feb11.092939.17598@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu>, cattelan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (Russell Cattelan) writes: > So now that it is almost a month past the supposed release of the > X11 Server for the cube, does any body have any information about it > or has it been neatly postponed? > I poked around quite a bit in January trying to get an answer to this very question. According to my sources, 1. NeXT is not working on or particularly interested in X. 2. Project Athena at MIT has been working on the port and has released alphas of varying quality to selected individuals. 3. There is only one person working on the port and that person is a student. Now that school is back in session this person has little if any time to devote to the project. Please correct me if I am wrong folks. Personally, I think that the sales people at NeXT would be very happy to see a working port of X. Its another arrow in their quiver when they try to make a sale. Given Steve Jobs attitude towards X, I doubt that NeXT will ever make a considered effort in that direction, or perhaps only as an afterthought. I know X is far from perfect, and I personally much prefer NeXTStep as a development environment, but its hard to get along ignoring such a large and open windowing connectivity standard. <<end soapbox>> Anybody else heard anything?
Date: Sun 12-Feb-1990 13:41:37 From: Unknown Subject: Re: So how about X In article <431@datran2.uunet> smb@datran2.uunet (Steven M. Boker) writes: >In article <1990Feb11.092939.17598@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu>, cattelan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (Russell Cattelan) writes: >> So now that it is almost a month past the supposed release of the >> X11 Server for the cube, does any body have any information about it >> or has it been neatly postponed? >> > >Anybody else heard anything? > This from the Febuary Byte Magazine, (p.26): While most of the Unix world has moved toward the X Window System as the windowing system for workstations and applications, the NeXT Computer uses a proprietary wondowing system. But now MIT, which developed and distributes X Window [sic], has come up with a version that runs on the NeXT cube. After buying a number of NeXT machines, MIT wanted to integrate them into its Athena computing environment, which makes use of X Window. The X Window port to the NeXT lets the user create a NextStep window on the screen, which is equivalent to an X Window device, according to NeXT, Inc.'s Barry Silverman, who worked with MIT on the X Window port. This means that nay application that adheres to X11 calls can run within this window on the NeXT. Initially, the port supports X11 release 3, and eventually it will support release 4. MIT will make the X Window port for NeXT publicly available on tape later this year. MIT will monitor bug reports and make changes to the code as necessary. NeXT has no plans to support MIT's port of X Window to its machine, according to Silverman. The project was primarily for MIT's internal use, but, as is customary, MIT releases its programs for public use. (end excerpt) This really doesn't clear much up; but I thought it might be interesting to some. -Brent
Date: Sun 13-Feb-1990 15:47:08 From: Unknown Subject: Re: So how about X We actually saw X 'almost' run on a cube yesterday. My understanding was that it should be here Real Soon.
Date: Sun 14-Feb-1990 21:09:11 From: Unknown Subject: Re: So how about X According to the current issue of MIPS magazine X11 for the NeXT is available via anonymous ftp from MIT. The article (about a paragraph long) did not mention any specific host. I don't have ftp access here (or a NeXT for that matter). Michael L. Squires uucp: ..!{convex,pitt,util20,uunet}!sir-alan!mikes 752 Chestnut Street ..!cwjcc!ncoast!util20!sir-alan!mikes Meadville, PA 16335 BITNET: mikes%sir-alan@pitt.UUCP (VAX) login of "ubbs" for BBS mikes@ncoast.org >From: dgc@joshua.math.ucla.edu
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