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Date: Sun 11-Sep-1989 20:54:14 From: Unknown Subject: Info on Modems? - Does anyone have experience hooking a modem up for the Cube? Any info on procedures, brands, who to ask, etc is greatly appreciated. -Barry Merriman >From: sct@alpha.lanl.gov (Stephen Tenbrink)
Date: Sun 15-Sep-1989 22:56:00 From: Unknown Subject: Re: Info on Modems? /* Written 3:54 pm Sep 11, 1989 by barry@zaphod.uchicago.edu in uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ /* ---------- "Info on Modems?" ---------- */ - >Does anyone have experience hooking a modem up for the Cube? >Any info on procedures, brands, who to ask, etc is greatly appreciated. > >-Barry Merriman /* End of text from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ Yes, we have had much bad experience. Basically, you first need to make a cable yourself. DO NOT USE AN RS-232 TO MINI-DIN-8 MADE FOR A MACINTOSH. It may appear to work, but that was our deadfall. The correct wiring is found in the on-line dox somewhere. Second, edit /etc/ttys and turn on the port you hooked up your modem to. Your terminal type will depend upon the speed modem you get. You should look into your termcap file for the different types, and choose the appropriate one. This will allow your modem to autoanswer for you. Third, read all you can about tip that you can find. This will allow you to dial out. Good luck, our modem is still not working consistantly. Michael Rutman Softmed >From: jpd00964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Date: Sun 15-Sep-1989 22:56:00 From: Unknown Subject: Re: Info on Modems? /* Written 3:54 pm Sep 11, 1989 by barry@zaphod.uchicago.edu in uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ /* ---------- "Info on Modems?" ---------- */ - >Does anyone have experience hooking a modem up for the Cube? >Any info on procedures, brands, who to ask, etc is greatly appreciated. > >-Barry Merriman /* End of text from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ Yes, we have had much bad experience. Basically, you first need to make a cable yourself. DO NOT USE AN RS-232 TO MINI-DIN-8 MADE FOR A MACINTOSH. It may appear to work, but that was our deadfall. The correct wiring is found in the on-line dox somewhere. Second, edit /etc/ttys and turn on the port you hooked up your modem to. Your terminal type will depend upon the speed modem you get. You should look into your termcap file for the different types, and choose the appropriate one. This will allow your modem to autoanswer for you. Third, read all you can about tip that you can find. This will allow you to dial out. Good luck, our modem is still not working consistantly. Michael Rutman Softmed >From: jpd00964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Date: Sun 18-Sep-1989 03:40:13 From: Unknown Subject: Re: Info on Modems? >Yes, we have had much bad experience. Basically, you first need to make a >cable yourself. DO NOT USE AN RS-232 TO MINI-DIN-8 MADE FOR A MACINTOSH. It >may appear to work, but that was our deadfall. The correct wiring is found in >the on-line dox somewhere. Well, it certainly worked quite well for me. I just dialed out (from a personal cube to a mainframe), though. Every once in a while the line dropped characters. This was indicated on the console. It wasn't very serious, nor did it get worse when I changed from a 2400 baud modem to a 19200baud data switch. >Third, read all you can about tip that you can find. This will allow you to >dial out. Actually, the latest (free) distribution of Kermit is set up so that it compiles wonderfully on the NeXT. I always had a tough time with tip, but Kermit worked beautifully right from start. Even more significantly, it allows you to transfer files to and from the NeXT, binary as well as text. Kermit is available on watsun.cc.columbia.edu, or maybe even at cunixc.cc.columbia.edu. /ivo (phd_ivo@gsbacd.uchicago.edu) iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu >From: dubman@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan Dubman)
Date: Sun 19-Sep-1989 04:04:51 From: Unknown Subject: Re: Info on Modems? In article <246300053@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> jpd00964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes: From: jpd00964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Date: 15 Sep 89 22:56:00 GMT References: <5358@tank.uchicago.edu> /* Written 3:54 pm Sep 11, 1989 by barry@zaphod.uchicago.edu in uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ /* ---------- "Info on Modems?" ---------- */ - >Does anyone have experience hooking a modem up for the Cube? >Any info on procedures, brands, who to ask, etc is greatly appreciated. > >-Barry Merriman /* End of text from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu:comp.sys.next */ Yes, we have had much bad experience. Basically, you first need to make a cable yourself. DO NOT USE AN RS-232 TO MINI-DIN-8 MADE FOR A MACINTOSH. It may appear to work, but that was our deadfall. The correct wiring is found in the on-line dox somewhere. It depends on which port you use. According to my documentation, Serial Port A is identical to a Macintosh serial port, and a standard cable should work fine. Serial Port B has +5v on pin 7(?), so it will indeed not work with a standard modem and mac cable. The rest of the original answer appears to be correct. >From: kaplan@m.cs.uiuc.edu
Date: Sun 19-Sep-1989 01:43:00 From: Unknown Subject: Re: Info on Modems? The crucial thing seems to be the *portname* you use when tipping/kermitting/whatever. I initially used /dev/ttyda, as implied by the docs, and got nowhere. On a random guess I tried /dev/ttya, and voila!, no problems since. (This is with a mac modem cable) Simon Kaplan >From: phd_ivo@gsbacd.uchicago.edu
Date: Sun 19-Sep-1989 23:33:58 From: Unknown Subject: Re: Info on Modems? Actually, I think some of my on-line documentation somewhere recommended /dev/cua. This also works as a proper device for dialing out. /ivo >From: ali@polya.Stanford.EDU (Ali T. Ozer)
Date: Sun 20-Sep-1989 21:16:00 From: Unknown Subject: Re: Info on Modems? Let me repeat myself. A standard Mac cable will appear to work, but CAN still cause problems. This is an official from the NeXT regional manager up in Chicago, so I have no reason to doubt it. The problem appears when you want to both dial out and dial in to the same modem. If you do not do both, then there will be no problem with a standard mac to db-25. It is not because the ports are different, they are not really, its because the wiring needs to go to a different pin on the db-25. The documentation is located UserNotes/SysAdmin/SerialPorts.wn. You can check out their wiring diagram and compare it to that found from Apple. There is a difference. Michael Rutman Softmed >From: ali@polya.Stanford.EDU (Ali T. Ozer)
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