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Date: Sun 25-Sep-1989 23:10:51 From: Unknown Subject: Help... First, I wish to say that I, too, appreciate very much Avadie's and Ali's help. Despite all NeXT support claims, user managers at universities tend not to have a lot of time---even after payment of $1,000 per box (10%-15%). Without their help on this net, I'd be pretty lost. Second, can someone help with these questions, please? (1) Can I turn the printer off in 1.0? Is there a way to do so from a terminal? (2) I am hooked up to a non-NeXT network (ucla.edu). I am able to telnet and ftp, but all attempts at mail fail miserably. Even mailing something to myself using my internet number fails (i.e. with an address like ivo@128.97.74.50). The return message announces: Host mailhost not found for mailer ether. To the best of my knowledge, I have my router and addresses set correctly, too. What am I doing wrong? Where do I find what I should be doing in the docs? I have searched for "mailhost" in all docs, and couldn't find it. Third, I want to mention that despite no such information in the manuals, the 1.0 Terminal does a much improved VT100 emulation. Also, I like the slick printing feature (1up, 2up...) in all applications. Finally, let me cast my vote on netinfo. I spent today recreating 1.0, since my last version---after deletion of the /me account and some fiddling around with hostnames and groups---would just refuse to start up netinfod. (nibindd was running). Nothing I could think of would allow me to restart netinfo, so that I could see what was wrong in the first place (no bootup error, either). Please, NeXT, allow us a way to save the entire NetInfo environment to one file (I've tried copying old /etc/netinfo/local.nidb, but that completely screwed up the bootup), so that users can experiment with changes, and, if they fail, that the old state can be restored painlessly. Without a much more user-friendly (clearer and more warnings, not more menu-like) interface, niload and nidump as well as the oldstyle /etc files are of crucial importance to my mental health. Without them, I'd be really lost. Please keep an ASCII translation system around. /ivo welch iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu phd_ivo@gsbacd.uchicago.edu >From: rogerj@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Roger Jagoda)
Date: Sun 26-Sep-1989 00:11:33 From: Unknown Subject: Re: Help... In article <5533@tank.uchicago.edu> phd_ivo@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes: > > a way to do so from a terminal? Try this, but don't tell the users...:-) /usr/etc/nppower off Check out the man page on nppower...pretty nifty utility! > >Finally, let me cast my vote on netinfo. I spent today recreating >1.0, since my last version---after deletion of the /me account and >some fiddling around with hostnames and groups---would just refuse >to start up netinfod. (nibindd was running). Nothing I could think >of would allow me to restart netinfo, so that I could see what was wrong >in the first place (no bootup error, either). > >Please, NeXT, allow us a way to save the entire NetInfo environment >to one file (I've tried copying old /etc/netinfo/local.nidb, but that >completely screwed up the bootup), so that users can experiment with >changes, and, if they fail, that the old state can be restored painlessly. > Me too! I don't know of any other system where I can update and rdist over 500 user names without regard to "where" they actually live. Now, I didn't live with the early bugs in NFS or YP but they both survived. I honestly believe in NetInfo (although it was a REAL struggle in 0.9), if only for the passwd info...the domains idea is truly great and clever and all that! Really, play with it for a long while, you'll see too, or am I the only one with over 200 users on these things to keep track of. I will admit it makes things easier being a NeXT-only net. I've had many reports of NeXT nibindd and netinfod causing MULTO problems with mixed nets. I haven't tested it under 1.0 yet...let ya know. How I solve the problem of returning to what I had before I made my last change is to use a tar: cd /etc/netinfo tar -cvf NEWNET.tar network.nidb Then, after I make some more changes, if they don't pan out, I just rm -rf the whole directoy and untar (tar -xvf NEWNET). Simple, if a bit crude. That's when I'm working in "/", but the same can be done for "." or ".." (the ".." I never did figure out how to use...maybe under 1.0..:-) ) Roger Jagoda Cornell University FQOJ@CORNELLA.CIT.CORNELL.EDU (607) 255-8960 >From: dgc@joshua.math.ucla.edu
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