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Date: Sun 03-Oct-1989 18:24:44 From: Unknown Subject: how long 'til we get a real shell? while almost all other aspects of the system were improved between 0.9 and 1.0, the shell/terminal capability remains in very sad shape. none of the four major Terminal bugs were addressed: * Terminal's miserable performance really slows down applications like emacs * you *still* can't copy and paste from a terminal * the meta-key is still broken (should be alt instead of command) * quitting the application should make sure the connection is closed first! (the combination of the last two leads to the classic bug of trying to fill a paragraph in emacs and instead blowing away your connection, process, buffers, and all. thank god emacs is so paranoid about saving files...) (yes, i know how to binary-patch my Terminal to get rid of the command-key equivalents.) other things like being able to scroll and real vt100 emulation would be nice. c'mon guys, this is known technology. check out xterm, ncsa telnet for the mac, etc. i'm not an anti-GUI reactionary, i just want a reasonable environment for using all those basic unix tools... is next going to do this? when can we expect to see some action here? or are they waiting for someone else to? >From: jacob@gore.com (Jacob Gore)

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