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Date: Sun 27-May-1989 15:06:24 From: Unknown Subject: New to NeXT I just received 0.9 of the NeXT Technical Documentation, which is all I could get our division of my company to spring for. An actual machine is out of the question right now. I pleaded for the doc because I remember how mind-opening Inside Macintosh was in 83-84 (especially when you didn't have to use the information directly to write software). As I say, I just got the three books, and I'm making my way through Chapter Two. Not to be rude, but it really must have been a lot of work for someone to rewrite the Apple User Interface Guidelines without using the _exact_ same words. Where's the revolution? What's new about the NeXT, or is all the 'new' in the styling and '030/DSP hardware? I guess SaME didn't sound as good as NeXT. (That's not fair; it is next-generation hardware, I'm sure. It's just that I'm software.) Any pointers deeper into the doc would be appreciated. You've got a NeXT machine (or you're interested in it)--what do you find compelling about it? I don't know how widespread the technical doc is--if I can look something up for people, I'd be glad to. /alastair/ know I'm on the net and I'm not sure they understand why I asked for the doc. So don't blame them. >From: stone@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Andrew Stone)
Date: Sun 30-May-1989 15:41:07 From: Unknown Subject: Re: New to NeXT In article <85@dbase.UUCP> awd@dbase.UUCP (Alastair Dallas) writes: >As I say, I just got the three books, and I'm making my way through >Chapter Two. Not to be rude, but it really must have been a lot of >work for someone to rewrite the Apple User Interface Guidelines without >using the _exact_ same words. Where's the revolution? Did you expect a revolution in the user interface guidelines? People haven't changed, you know. If the Mac guidelines were so good (and I think that they were, for the most part) then it is SENSIBLE not to change them, don't you think? The Mac UI guidlines basically encourage you to be careful, consistent, and reasonable when designing an interface, so that people will be able to pick it up intuitively. Anyway, there are major steps forward in software. The Interface Builder, for example, keeps you from having to write any code to support the interface. You should really get a machine (or at least go look at one somewhere). The documentation doesn't do it justice. >From: scott@sage.uchicago.edu (Scott Deerwester)
Date: Sun 01-Jun-1989 17:55:30 From: Unknown Subject: Re: New to NeXT In article <86@dbase.UUCP> awd@dbase.UUCP (Alastair Dallas) writes: > Where > is there one to be seen? I'm near JPL and CalTech, not to mention > Businessland... I don't know about the Businessland stores near you, but the Businessland in San Jose on Stevens Creek just west of Valley Fair has a NeXT machine in the front window. You can just go in and poke at it if you like. I don't know how I'm going to get my hands on one long enough to find out whether Franz's Allegro CL will provide an adequate vehicle for my simulation and hyperText applications, but, then, I didn't know how I was going to get my hands on a Mac II until Apple hired me. I'll just have to assume that some fortuitous circumstance will eventuall come along. --mikel >From: andy@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Andrew M. Milburn)

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