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Date: Sun 22-Apr-1989 13:40:36 From: Unknown Subject: Re: Jobs' marketing scam In article <3098@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU> rwl@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ray Lubinsky) writes: >I just realized -- Jobs and the "if you want a NeXT, you'll have to go to >college" biz has been a complete white wash! > >A previous poster (from apple.com, I believe) pointed out that Jobs had agreed >not to compete in the business market for a set time after leaving Apple. >Then, I just read an article where someone opined that H. Ross was behind the >move to retail through Businessland... Well, I am not sure if Jobs was totally serious about his "go to college!" response... The fact that Jobs entered the business market is not really surprising. If he indeed did make a deal with Apple about not entering the business market, then it is also not a surprise that NeXT entered the business market. Why? Examine one of the owners of NeXT: H. Ross Perot. He sold his startup EDS (Electronic Data Systems) to GM, and also made a deal to not "compete profitably" against EDS for a period of two years I believe. So what did H. Ross do? He started Perot Systems and bid against EDS for contracts, but for the next two years, Perot Systems will show a 0 profit on the books. I would like to know the details of the Apple-Jobs agreement if it does exist. If it says that Jobs cannot compete, then that would be a problem for NeXT, but if it says that Jobs cannot "turn a profit" then he can learn from his friend H. Ross... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= """"""" Andrew "Fuz" Lih Columbia University Center | @ @ | Instructional Computing for Computing Activities < ^ > \ - / lih@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu AJLUS@CUVMB.BITNET --- lih@heathcliff.cs.columbia.edu ...rutgers!columbia!cunixc!lih =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >From: mvs@meccts.MECC.MN.ORG (Michael V. Stein)
Date: Sun 22-Apr-1989 22:05:44 From: Unknown Subject: Re: Jobs' marketing scam In article <3098@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU> rwl@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ray Lubinsky) writes: [talking about Jobs selling to more than the college market ] >It would have been more subtle if he'd put up more of a struggle to hold to the >academic market and waited a little longer. It might not have even felt like >we've been manipulated by slick hype instead of rational evaluation. I'm really not sure what the big deal is about all this. Aside from that, I'm also not convinced by your reasoning. I listened to a NeXT rep about two months ago and he said that at a meeting of Job's academic advisors, the advisors had sharply changed their position. Supposedly the advisors had originally pressured Jobs into promising that the machine would be marketed only to education for the first year it was out - so they could show to the world what higher ed could do with the proper machine. At any rate, supposedly, a few months ago the advisors met again and decided that if they were ever going to get the third party software they wanted, the machine should be marketed to all groups. The story could all be a lie but most college profs are pompous enough to behave that way.
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